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ashen perch
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we do know its name, its Shodai Kitetsu

royal orchid
rain cedar
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Maybe i should start reading sbs now...

royal orchid
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it's a good choice for a supreme grade really

ashen perch
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we actually have 7 slots left, but I am assuming that Xebec has one too

royal orchid
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idk what that red text is about though

ashen perch
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okay sure Davy Jones does have a supreme grade, why not

cosmic hamlet
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Which grade is shanks sword

ashen perch
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unknown

echo lake
cosmic hamlet
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Oh

royal orchid
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kuro? kurohige?

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Blackbeard upscale

echo lake
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Captain Kuro's return will shake the One Piece world

cosmic hamlet
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Surprised wb is supreme grade, it doesn't even look like a sword šŸ˜­

echo lake
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it just needs a blade

urban lodge
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It's blades in general

royal orchid
cosmic hamlet
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Yeah but still

royal orchid
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what if it was a saber and he stuck it in a spear

cosmic hamlet
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I'm just surprised its supreme grade

blazing depot
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chapter today or tmrw

royal orchid
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sunday

blazing depot
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inject it into me veins

cosmic hamlet
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Can't comment about tommorrow

echo lake
ashen perch
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I wonder if Imu's spear is being counted in the 12, probably not

royal orchid
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doubt it

echo lake
cosmic hamlet
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Where does it mention there are 12?

ashen perch
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Loguetown

cosmic hamlet
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Tashigi said it?

ashen perch
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yea

dense haven
urban lodge
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I think those are supposed to be common knowledge, in which case it's definitely not

cosmic hamlet
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I mean pell said there are only 5 flying zoans šŸ˜“

royal orchid
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imu's spear wouldn't be in an official list

ashen perch
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yeah no it wouldnt make sense, but I imagine it is a supreme grade still

final trench
final trench
rain cedar
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Do yall think Mihawk got Yoru from his celestial dragon connections

ashen perch
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Imu made it for him

rain cedar
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Nerona Mihawk JuPeter

final trench
royal orchid
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loaded question for Nerona Mihawk

final trench
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Either he stole it or it was given to him

cosmic hamlet
echo lake
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Kuro's betrayal was the peak of One Piece

cosmic hamlet
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Is pell the first swordman on screen among the civilians?

final trench
rain cedar
echo lake
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Kuro has black hair, Robin has black hair. Robin will betray the Straw Hats

royal orchid
ashen perch
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also Oda reiterated the 12 number in a SBS so its definitely the case

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cosmic hamlet
royal orchid
echo lake
royal orchid
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ok really uhh

echo lake
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I miss Roger's old design it was cooler

ashen perch
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crazy Nusjuro v Zoro setup

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echo lake
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Why is Roger so insignificant to the story now anyway

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he feels like a side character

royal orchid
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I think someone like harsh doesn't bait a lot

ashen perch
urban lodge
royal orchid
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comparatively?

echo lake
ashen perch
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all we saw in the manga was a big smile on a mostly hidden face

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his eyes werent even in the manga

cosmic hamlet
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How hard is it to create a clone of the swords?

echo lake
ashen perch
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I know?

echo lake
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Roger isn't even an important character

warm sierra
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why is roger so insignificant to the story
I wish they would hide rogers face

echo lake
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I hope Oda does something cool with Roger because right now Rocks has more aura than him

royal orchid
rain cedar
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Real ones remember Rogers nose hair moustache

ashen perch
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this is literally all that we saw for so so so long

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I think until Sabaody

royal orchid
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you couldn't clone the weird will the swords have

echo lake
cosmic hamlet
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I wonder if belo betty powers work on swords too

royal orchid
rain cedar
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He looked so chopped

ashen perch
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his eyes are just visible now

royal orchid
rain cedar
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Yeah that's valid

warm sierra
royal orchid
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idk maybe an excuse

echo lake
ashen perch
royal orchid
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oda ^ doesn't have a proper mustache so

echo lake
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What if Oda just stops caring about One Piece at some point and he just makes really weird chapters that make no sense

royal orchid
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you mean like in every arc

ashen perch
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reminds me, I thought this was nosehair when I first saw it

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royal orchid
iron oriole
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If we are getting all 12 Supreme Grades, i think the remaining 7 are

Rocks (Eclipse)
Garling
Shiryu (Raiu)
Burn Scar
Greenbull
Shanks (Gryphon)
Shamrock (Cerberus)

Though i think Gryphon could be Great instead & i could see Imu having a Supreme Grade, would be funny if the dagger he used when inside Gunko was Supreme Grade instead of the polearm

urban lodge
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That happened like 20 chapters ago

ashen perch
echo lake
dense haven
ashen perch
rain cedar
royal orchid
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what if tashigi has one of them already

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guys

iron oriole
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Tashigi's is just graded

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Lowest grade trash

echo lake
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Tashigi vs Down D Stairs during the final war will be crazy

dense haven
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even the trump phone is more valuable than supreme grades atp

ashen perch
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Shigure and Sandai Kitetsu are on the same grade

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nobody slanders Zoro for it smh

royal orchid
urban lodge
echo lake
dense haven
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its kinda funny oda made up the number 12 for supreme grades when there aren't even 12 proper swordsmen in the series

royal orchid
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they're all hakimen

ashen perch
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he definitely didnt?

iron oriole
ashen perch
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There are easily 12 candidates in the story for 12 supreme grades

rain cedar
ashen perch
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I am surprised that Shanks still isnt confirmed to have one

alpine trench
echo lake
urban lodge
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Harsh, you don't know that for sure

alpine trench
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Dawg

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Come on

iron oriole
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I think its like 60:40 on Shanks having a Great grade > Supreme

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Just for the extra flex

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Using a lesser grade sword in his duels with Mihawk etc

echo lake
iron oriole
urban lodge
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What I mean is he doesn't achieve anything, he doesn't kill Imu, he doesn't become king of the world, nothing

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And that part I'm not sure about

iron oriole
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I wish we knew if Yoru was a Supreme grade before blackening or not

ashen perch
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I forgot that Tashigi straight up even says this, Oda knows his audience well

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and yet his audience actually still struggles to understand that smh

ashen perch
iron oriole
royal orchid
hasty sable
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Higuma the Fifth Emperor

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Swords collected by Tashigi from evil men:

Mr. 11

royal orchid
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the whole Davy clan will return thing is bullshit and nothing ever happens

warm sierra
urban lodge
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Well this part is not even hating, I don't think he should be narratively rewarded

hasty sable
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Bow to the Japanese speaker šŸ™‡

iron oriole
urban lodge
hasty sable
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I think Rocks already failed so Blackbeard will succeed

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He just wonā€™t get ā€œthe worldā€

urban lodge
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All that just for them to fail

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It would be great

hasty sable
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Blackbeard kills Imu but Luffy prevents anyone else from consolidating that kind of power again

graceful grove
urban lodge
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I wouldn't even care if Blackbeard was the final fight, I just hate the idea of him stealing Imu's powers so much

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It's so unnecessary and redundant

hasty sable
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I think it should be Blackbeard to kill Imu. Everything else is secondary.

rain cedar
hasty sable
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Blackbeard fulfilling the promise of Davy Jones has to happen

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For the whole inherited will thing

graceful grove
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Well

urban lodge
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But this isn't a real example of inherited will that Oda usually goes for

ashen perch
hasty sable
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Luffy as Joyboy will just stop the other half of that. Which is that Blackbeard wants to be a new king of the world like the Davys of old and rule like a Celestial Dragon.

graceful grove
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Rocks wanted to rule the world, Bb aint getting that

hasty sable
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But Teach will get his revenge

urban lodge
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That's why I genuinely believe he's cooking something with Buggy being the real inheritor

iron oriole
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It's like you're ignoring her own words

graceful grove
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One way or another, Buggy is sitting on that throne. Even if its for a few mins

urban lodge
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And Teach is just a cringe pretender parroting his parents' dreams

final trench
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Immaculate cope

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Anyway, theres promises to be keptšŸŒ—šŸŒ—

ashen perch
hasty sable
runic dock
final trench
runic dock
iron oriole
warm sierra
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why does no female villain have a supreme grade actually?

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really makes you think

runic dock
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Makes you think

final trench
ashen perch
graceful grove
final trench
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HOPEFULLYā€¦ dare i say tashigi will wield one

runic dock
hasty sable
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Luffy will be the one to destroy Blackbeardā€™s dream anyway. He wonā€™t just fail just because.

iron oriole
final trench
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Or a female warrior from the VC

graceful grove
ashen perch
iron oriole
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Lol okay

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Keep coping that its okay for Tashigi to go against her own words around her dream

rose rune
ashen perch
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She just doesn't want evil men to have them, that's pretty simple and straightforward

balmy field
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yo everyone

iron oriole
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She just wants to be the own to free them from their hands, thats pretty simple & straightforward

ashen perch
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Yeah she'll try I'm sure but it doesn't matter either way

proud loom
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I wish we saw smoker and tashigi more

final trench
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Smoker OTW back

proud loom
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I hope so

livid belfry
balmy field
balmy field
final trench
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Neo marines #PENDING

ashen perch
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They're actually the marines we've seen the most in the series

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We'll see em again soon

balmy field
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bruv dont make me angry imma fuckin kick you at the speed of light

proud loom
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I thought tashigi was gonna be like a rival for zoro ngl

final trench
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Ehhh

proud loom
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Wouldā€™ve been nice

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Is what it is tho

final trench
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He probably doesnt care now but earlier he was actively avoiding her because she looks like kuina

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Oh yea he was with her duringā€¦punk hazard?

proud loom
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I think so?

ashen perch
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They have a sibling dynamic more than rival

balmy field
final trench
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When he killed the spider bitch i believe

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Nvm she was a bird

iron oriole
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Harpie

proud loom
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Harpy you mean šŸ˜­

final trench
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Yea šŸ’”šŸ„¹

bold sonnet
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monet my wife

rapid ridge
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Yo that's sugar's sister

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Whatshername

livid belfry
proud loom
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ā€œSpider bitchā€ QueenKEKW

iron oriole
bold sonnet
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that's a baddie

proud loom
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Thatā€™s her name

bold sonnet
rapid ridge
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Stupidest logia ever

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And yet katakuri is a "special" paramecia

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Sigh...

iron oriole
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I wonder why she willingly became a Harpy though

proud loom
iron oriole
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She can probably fly by being a logia anyway

proud loom
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Flying logia šŸ¤”

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I canā€™t think of anyone whoā€™s a logia and could fly

iron oriole
proud loom
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Kizaru thatā€™s true but greenbull ? Am I forgetting something ?

final trench
digital spear
iron oriole
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He's a logia & he flew to Wano with a little flower helicopter

proud loom
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Oh yeaaaah

digital spear
proud loom
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My fault I forgot about greenshit

bold sonnet
iron oriole
proud loom
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Yeah ig monet could fly with the logia fruit then but she probably got it before the fruit

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Then again I feel like sheā€™d melt if she went to a sunny area

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Probably wouldnā€™t happen tho

iron oriole
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I doubt she'd melt per se but i could see having issues using her fruit because of the heat

proud loom
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Ig it just depends on how good she is with her fruit or somtn

iron oriole
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I'm thinking something like Mr 3 in Impel Down happens, obviously depending on how hot it is

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Where he can use his fruit still but it doesn't harden

balmy field
rapid ridge
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Kuro

upper rose
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Monet

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Smoker enel caesar too

pulsar path
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Luffy floats

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According to toei

hasty sable
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I require Hinokizu lore

dapper tree
tranquil blade
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and Blackbeard

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and Kuzan

balmy field
pulsar path
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Yeah but I mean he's basicly garchomp and garchomp can fly lol

prisma yacht
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poop

pulsar path
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Black beard can jump he don't even need flying

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Fron you didn't ping me right ? I thought I seen you did but it just thought me to your pfp šŸ˜‚

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Brought

prisma yacht
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Yyeah I just came online

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UwU

pulsar path
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Lmao that's never happen before!

graceful belfry
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Whatā€™s up One Piece family

graceful belfry
scenic dirge
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holy sleepy idea

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need him to be a new character that isn't related to any major faction we're already familiar with

graceful belfry
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Yeah, no, I was definitely saying it ironically and agree that itā€™d be a terrible idea to have Burn Scar be revealed as a former Rocks, Roger, etc. Pirate

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Preferably itā€™ll be a brand new character introduced into the fold

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Well, I suppose I wouldnā€™t mind it being Mr. Davy Jones himself if Oda came up with the right way to substantiate it

hasty sable
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Itā€™s Vander Decken

prisma yacht
ruby cape
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A new character with a different history would just be way more interesting than an existing one we somewhat know the background of imo

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Which we know the background of a decent amount, not to be confused with backstory

runic dock
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Donā€™t need him to be that exact at least personally

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Like we never heard of them before but theyā€™re a revo or something

spice python
ruby cape
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Was thinking of some semi-big names instead

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Probably a character already hidden in the manga and has like one vivre card or databook reference, thatā€™d be neat too and itā€™s niche

grand flower
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I was doing a dnd campaign and had to confront a character that could fly

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The DM asked me what I planned to do I said ima jump and he just went ā€œoh noā€¦ā€

graceful belfry
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People are gonna say that Luffy isnā€™t around an all-black ship in this scene, but I truthfully donā€™t see it as random anymore. Feel like thereā€™s either something here, or that Iā€™m out of my mind

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ashen perch
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yeah no it doesnt make any sense, East Blue's not supposed to have gigantic whirlpools lol, its the calmest and most peaceful sea

prisma yacht
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Glueglueglueglue

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It's shanks

ashen perch
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Also Volume 115's length has been confirmed, it ends at 1178. 12 chapters!!

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Imu is revealed in the very first chapter of Volume 116

graceful belfry
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Oda rubbing his hands together getting ready to draw Imu on a cover for the first time

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And itā€™ll be amazing

ashen perch
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We're gonna get him into the top 30 of the poll and get that color scheme sooner, trust šŸ™

ashen perch
barren token
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Hey guys

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Hi cunk

prisma yacht
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Hey guys

graceful belfry
prisma yacht
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Hi fron

graceful belfry
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That being said, I gotta go back to voting BB and Imu every day

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Every vote counts

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Surely

ashen perch
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he probably wont...

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but lets see

graceful belfry
dense snow
dense snow
graceful belfry
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I like Lucci. Definitely deserves a spot in the top 50 characters

ashen perch
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he's not even really attractive

dense snow
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Yeah top 50 sure but not where he is rn

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My boy bb deserves at least top 20

dense snow
barren token
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Is the poll still going wtf

urban lodge
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Until june 11

ashen perch
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I have but I dont see him like that, he's decent at best

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yeah its like 3 months

hasty sable
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Volume 116 gonna be titled Saint Nerona Imu

dense snow
ashen perch
urban lodge
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Crazy

graceful belfry
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Iā€™m unsure about this

hasty sable
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Imu is strikingly pretty

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Heā€™s made for tumblr

graceful belfry
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The scene of Kaku jumping around in Water 7 is real cool tho

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I do like that scene

graceful belfry
ashen perch
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Imu definitely is super hot, I was talking about Lucci lol

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Its Kaku>Lucci very very easily

graceful belfry
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Tears are gonna be shed

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iron oriole
alpine trench
graceful belfry
ashen perch
graceful belfry
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No WAKAINU

ashen perch
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just do it smh

graceful belfry
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Lowkey, though, Kaku turning himself into a giraffe cube is pretty awesome as well

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Maybe he never stopped being cool

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And it was me who became more lame

iron oriole
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Next ep is the Saul reunion right?

dense snow
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Kaku the best cp agent

graceful belfry
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What about Robinā€™s brother?

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Donā€™t answer that, I just wanted to bring up that joke again

hasty sable
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Do you think Imu will be sympathetic/tragic or an irredeemable hate sink

dense snow
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Mix of both

ashen perch
alpine trench
iron oriole
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Paulie is the coolest one

hasty sable
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I think he will go all in on making Imu the most hatable character in One Piece completely without redeeming qualities

ashen perch
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well he already failed

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if that was the intention (I dont think it is)

dense snow
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That's gotta be spandam and orochi

ruby cape
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Spandam probably fits it the best for anyoneā€™s attachment to Robin

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You also got Arlong and Hody Jones

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Vander Decken

hasty sable
ruby cape
ashen perch
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I mean his apparent friendship with Joyboy does seem to indicate that there was a reasonable person in there somewhere, he just has fallen into darkness

ruby cape
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What was in Kakuā€™s arsenal though on his waist

ashen perch
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a chisel

hasty sable
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He ended up betraying Joyboy so I doubt that friendship was worth much

urban lodge
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What if Joyboy betrayed him

hasty sable
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I donā€™t believe he will be the least bit tragic

iron oriole
hasty sable
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But very self-interested and petty

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Heā€™s salty

ashen perch
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also its definitely psychological because Oda said that he didnt even plan who was going to be Cipher Pol between them Maz

ruby cape
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Wasnā€™t aware of that

hasty sable
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Maybe from Imuā€™s warped perspective

ashen perch
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The whole thing is just very unclear right now, I mean even something like his personality being overridden by his fruit cant be ruled out just yet

fallen meteor
ruby cape
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With the friendship with Joyboy ,should there be one, wouldnā€™t that paint Imu as a fallen angel tho? Quite more so than say Doffy, and parallels to Luciferā€™s mythological fall too

fallen meteor
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And Imu got mad on power

ruby cape
hasty sable
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If thereā€™s a Paradise Lost connection I do think he would have betrayed Joyboy out of jealousy

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Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven

wraith mantle
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Whoā€™s excited for chapter

hasty sable
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Which is to say that even if they had a deep friendship it clearly didnā€™t matter to Imu more than power

dense haven
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CHAPTER OUT

obtuse perch
ruby cape
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I hope the backstory doesnā€™t end up resulting in a way to be sympathetic with Imu whatever it could turn out to be

obtuse perch
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I think he's pretty clearly still got some unresolved issues with Joyboy that even 800 years haven't let him think through

ruby cape
hasty sable
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Considering what the ancient kingdom was supposed to be I have my doubts. Especially because Nikaā€™s incarnation ended up on the opposing side. I think Imu likes his balance, which is a way for him to rationalize that he just likes keeping things under his thumb

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The flower chamber is a good representation for that

obtuse perch
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i dont think it will make him sympathetic, more reveal how easily good intentions can go wrong

hasty sable
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Itā€™s idyllic and beautiful. Imu likes the little butterflies. But thatā€™s only because itā€™s something heā€™s curated. Itā€™s entirely under his control.

ruby cape
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Could be but I wonder what good intentions were meant to be, could be that Joyboy saw past those good intentions and saw a worst outcome hence the fight

hasty sable
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And I donā€™t think somebody that created the World Government can have the best of intentions. Heā€™s perfectly willing to cleanse the world and wipe countries off the map just because.

maiden saffron
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doflamingo's pre-ts design looks so fluffy

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ruby cape
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Having the world under one thumb canā€™t promote good intentions really

dense haven
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its over

hasty sable
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He also treats it like a racket

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You have to buy in to even be considered a person

ruby cape
iron oriole
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Part of me thinks Joyboy first said this, perhaps jokingly like "oh yeah people are totally happy when they've been completely dominated" & Imu took that seriously & to the extreme because it does read like Imu is questioning Joyboy when he says it

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ruby cape
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He is or was as human as anyone was

maiden saffron
hasty sable
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I think thatā€™s probably just showing their conflicting worldview

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If Joyboy was anything like Luffy then he didnā€™t want to dominate anything

ruby cape
iron oriole
ruby cape
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In Luffy and Joyboyā€™s sense it could be freedom for one is freedom for all if the world allows it

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But the worldā€™s current affairs donā€™t allow it

hasty sable
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Joyboy used the ancient weapons but we donā€™t know why

ashen perch
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I think that is just Imu thinking it first and then saying it aloud because he couldnt contain himself, I wouldnt say that dialogue is coming from Joyboy personally

hasty sable
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Imuā€™s powers are also a representation of his worldview

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Which contrast heavily with something like Luffy and Joyboy

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Everything weā€™ve been told about Nika and Joyboy makes me think they would never say anything like this

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Imu is just projecting lol

iron oriole
ashen perch
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I just cant see the warrior of liberation saying anything like that honestly

ruby cape
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Depends on where Imuā€™s ideas and concept of dominance came from in the first place

iron oriole
ashen perch
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Also I dont think we can really judge Joyboy harshly for having those ancient weapons, I mean Oden also wanted to unleash Pluton and we have a pretty crystal clear idea of who he is meant to be

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theres some purpose to their existence that we're not aware of

hasty sable
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Thereā€™s a line in Water 7 about weapons depending on how theyā€™re used

ashen perch
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yup, Tom's entire story is about that

tough igloo
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Joyboy Luffy Roger will all be very similar types of people but have some slight differences

trim lily
tough igloo
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Roger & Luffy are damn near the same aside from Roger wanting the amazon lily princess and Luffy not caring about the amazon lily princess like that

hasty sable
maiden saffron
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Franky even bets on the fact that by burning Pluton's blueprints, and saving Robin

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pluton will end up in Luffy's hands

tough igloo
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I could see a scenario where Luffy would change his tone about using an ancient weapon if he was forced to .. the franky pluton plot line exists for a reason.

hasty sable
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Joyboy probably used them for very specific reasons to create the conditions for someone to win in the future.

trim lily
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when the creation capable of destroying islands destroys an island cereal

urban lodge
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I swear to god if the ancient weapons were originally mining tools or whatever I'm going to crash out

maiden saffron
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why would poseidon, the only weapon we're fairly familiar with, be a mining tool

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or anything but a weapon

tough igloo
urban lodge
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Well the others

trim lily
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Poseidon is the furthest thing we know from being a weapon

barren token
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ok guys heres my bomb that kills 10000000000 people at once remember this weapon is inherently neutral so it's not my fault if someone uses it to kill 1000000000 people

maiden saffron
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Do you think the island erasing power imu has is an ancient weapon?

iron oriole
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Poseidon is the one that the line really works best for since it can be just to make the seas safe from the Sea Kings

Pluton though.... a battleship capable of reducing islands to nothing....

Uranus presumably a spaceship sort of deal that fires lasers & creates holes in the ocean...

hasty sable
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Also, Imu probably flooded the world and blamed Joyboy for it

trim lily
urban lodge
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Poseidon is also not a conventional weapon yeah

tough igloo
maiden saffron
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yeah, so that can't be a mining tool or anything else either

trim lily
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itā€™s in the sky, immense power, powered by an ancient fuel source

tough igloo
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I always felt it would be weird if the WG didnā€™t get at least ONE ancient weapon after all these centuries lol

maiden saffron
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and i think it's pretty likely that Pluton is also a massive battleship that is capable of destroying entire islands

iron oriole
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Vegapunk basically confirmed it was Uranus to us

trim lily
maiden saffron
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maybe its like a self-contained buster-call

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idk

iron oriole
maiden saffron
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I don't think oda is going the route of "well these were originally used for something else!"

urban lodge
#

He might

tough igloo
#

I do wonder if the other 2 weapons will be machines/ancient kingdom tech or something alive like Poseidon ā€¦

maiden saffron
#

i think ancient weapons are a very clear allegory for nuclear weapons

trim lily
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depends on if he plans on justifying the ancient kingdom or not

urban lodge
#

Considering they were originally on Joyboy's side

trim lily
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or if they even made it

trim lily
tough igloo
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cause Oden pops saidā€ Pluton was sleeping below Wano ā€œ but i guess that could also just be a figure of speech and itā€™s not actually sleeping

maiden saffron
#

yeah

ashen perch
hasty sable
#

Also Vegapunk creating Pacifistas. The government twisted the benevolence of his creation. They werenā€™t supposed to be super soldiers for war. They were supposed to be for police brutality.

trim lily
#

then vegapunk made seraphim which are even worse

maiden saffron
#

the ancient weapons are also named after gods

hasty sable
#

We donā€™t hate Vegapunk enough

trim lily
#

very true

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we gotta destroy that clone box

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do not let this man return

tough igloo
#

iā€™ve disliked him since that convo with him & jinbei in egghead where Jinbei called him out about his creations doing evil in the world and he ainā€™t give af šŸ˜‚

iron oriole
#

Typical scientist

ruby cape
#

Vegapunk being the root cause of peoples homeland disappearing

#

Where does his ethics lie anyways

maiden saffron
#

Vegapunk is a coward

barren token
#

ok guys heres killatron 4000 remember this murder machine is inherently neutral so it's not my fault whatever happens happens

iron oriole
#

All the Punks should be put on trial once the Revs take over

ruby cape
#

hereā€™s a weapon I made that you can use of your own free will to do what you want but just know I only made it I didnā€™t use it

tough igloo
#

lol thatā€™s legit how VP be moving

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bro donā€™t give a damn what they do after it leaves his lab šŸ˜‚

ruby cape
#

I guess the Bonney thing with the Pacifista was something

iron oriole
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Shame it didn't work with S-Bear too

ruby cape
#

But I doubt the rest of his inventions would have a hidden catch like that

ruby cape
maiden saffron
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I think Vegapunk was just naive, and even when he stopped being such, he was still a coward. He's rarely stood up for his own values

#

one of the only times is actually in egghead

ruby cape
#

S-Snake possessing Hancockā€™s emotional traits and S-Bear not in the sense of Bonney is some sort of inconsistency isnā€™t it

hasty sable
#

Biggest argument for Luffy being morally grey is he likes apple man

trim lily
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s-snake also liking luffy is mostly a gag

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it doesnā€™t really work out if you think about it

iron oriole
tough igloo
hasty sable
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I think being naive is a shield for him realistically. He knows exactly what he was doing imo.

maiden saffron
#

he was naive, he's not anymore

hasty sable
#

He took money from the government because it let him fulfill his ambitions

maiden saffron
#

now he was just a coward

hasty sable
#

And made weapons for them

maiden saffron
#

I think his meeting with Dragon was a turning point for him

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after what happened to ohara

ruby cape
#

If she hasnā€™t then I reckon she could control him though

#

Itā€™d be something Oda would probably depict later down the line towards endgame

tough igloo
#

yeah thatā€™s what it feels like Oda is leading up to ā€¦ S Bear eventually going with Bonney at some point and growing up together

maiden saffron
barren token
#

no it's about my murder machine

tough igloo
#

and Revs also having all the pacifistsas on their side due to Bonney ā€¦

CDs tried to take the Buccaneer from the Revs and now they got a army of Buccaneers and a Buccaneer/Lunarian hybrid with the paw paw fruit and Kizaru light šŸ¤¦šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ˜‚

maiden saffron
ashen perch
maiden saffron
#

i didnt even clock what your statement meant until arsal said that above

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Lmfao

trim lily
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i donā€™t think luffy is privy or aware of the moral dubiousness of vegapunk

ashen perch
#

I am pretty sure he says ''oh youre funny/look funny, I will take you away from here''. He likes him but like... its a bit surface level lol

trim lily
#

hell not a single person acknowledged the possible issue of the seraphim

tough igloo
trim lily
#

vegapunk is the silly apple grandpa

tough igloo
#

itā€™s like telling Goku some shit like that .. he gon be like ā€œ uh okay .. so anyway ā€œ šŸ˜‚

trim lily
prisma yacht
#

Guys

#

Discharge is the word of the day

ashen perch
#

For the Bonney/Kuma thing he even asks VP to beg for forgiveness early on iirc, and outside of that Luffy's not aware of much except that Bonney was cool with him again

#

so when Bonney was cool with him, so was Luffy

ruby cape
tough igloo
#

didnā€™t Luffy also know about Kid torturing civilians from Shakky lol

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and was still cool with him right after

prisma yacht
ashen perch
#

He heard from Kid that it was all the people who laughed at his dream

tough igloo
#

lol

ashen perch
#

so I guess Luffy didnt mind it much anymore lol

tough dust
#

shakky just fed him government propaganda

tough igloo
#

lmao Kid : they laughed at my dream so i slaughtered the innocent civilians

Luffy : oh okay

šŸ˜‚ thatā€™s hilarious

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especially since thatā€™s the opposite of what Luffy did in Jaya & the opposite of what Teach speech was about and the opposite what Shanks told. him too šŸ˜‚

tough dust
#

i mean if u gonna talk shit about his dream or at killers laugh

u most likely not a good person lol

ruby cape
#

donā€™t talk shit if you canā€™t deal with the consequences I guess

#

they shouldā€™ve seen it coming

#

šŸ˜­

tough igloo
#

Luffy when people laughed at him dream in Jaya : heard Teach & Shanks say just ignore them and did just that

Luffy when he heard Kid killed civilians for laughing at his dream: ā€œoh okay I understand ā€œ šŸ˜‚

tough dust
#

its no different from roger

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latent hamlet
latent hamlet
prisma yacht
latent hamlet
prisma yacht
tough igloo
# tough dust its no different from roger

thatā€™s different though .. this is about people picking on roger friends , Luffy would react the same way to that ../

im confident that just like shanks & Teach said , Roger would just ignore people who laughed at or doubted his dream and thatā€™s likely where shanks got it from

hasty sable
#

Simplifying him would be saying he just did an oopsie

final trench
hasty sable
#

At least he tried in the end

final trench
#

Cant wait for that roger backstory because WHAT nation did he terrorize

tough igloo
#

him & zoro pretty easily ignored them and they were pouring shit on them

final trench
#

Nah zoro wanted to fight

#

Luffy told him not to

tough igloo
#

so itā€™s just a Kid thing lol not. roger or luffy or shanks or teach

prisma yacht
tough igloo
#

cause those captains wouldā€™ve just ignored the people

graceful belfry
#

Crazy how Jaya is like, one of the best arcs ever

tough dust
#

i don't think every pirate should act the same way

tough igloo
#

yeah my point isnā€™t about them acting the same way .. my point was Luffy being cool with Kid after hearing he was slaughtering civilians cause they laughed at his dream is funny cause Luffy would never do that shit nor would he agree with it cause he was taught different

final trench
#

You gotta realize tho kidd grew up in a fucked up environment

prisma yacht
#

Oh you guys were already talking about it

final trench
#

We dont even know if he had his parents

iron oriole
prisma yacht
final trench
#

Not as a bad as kidd

#

Was luffy in a gang?

prisma yacht
#

But then again there's bb....

tough igloo
spice python
iron oriole
tough dust
final trench
prisma yacht
tough dust
#

i doubt kidd will even have any one like that

final trench
tough igloo
iron oriole
#

Ace even got tats for his gang too

tough igloo
#

the convo was about luffy being cool with kid in sabaody

#

after he found out kid was slaughtering civilians

prisma yacht
#

I don't think this is bad

final trench
#

Ok

prisma yacht
#

It's just a good distinction

tough igloo
ruby cape
#

which is what kid does

final trench
graceful belfry
#

Fucking goat

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prisma yacht
ruby cape
#

I mean Luffy and Kid have many parallels anyways Iā€™m not surprised he didnā€™t think much of it

#

Kidā€™s just as irrational as Luffy can be

prisma yacht
#

Not to mention Luffy doesn't judge by just hearing shits from ppl

iron oriole
#

Tbf in Jaya, he only did nothing because it was "Sky Island? Lmfao idiot thats not real, look at this clown"
If it was "WSS?! What a fool thinking he can beat Mihawk! Just give up" Luffy would have punched them

tough dust
twin thicket
#

Happy chapter day LETSBUGGINGGO

ruby cape
prisma yacht
final trench
#

I feel like loki being innocent was a given tho

tawny panther
prisma yacht
graceful belfry
#

Something was in the air

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tawny panther
#

if itā€™s one thing Luffy gonna do .. itā€™s remember and do what shanks told him all those years ago

prisma yacht
iron oriole
ruby cape
tawny panther
iron oriole
#

Luffy doesn't let shit slide when it comes to his friends

prisma yacht
#

Him going to sky island was his dream

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Same with zoro becoming wss

iron oriole
#

Its not Luffys dream to go there, he's just going to go there, people can laugh all they want at that

The moment it comes to his friends though, he'd 100% fight them as seen later on when he came back & oneshot Bellamy, they stole Nolands gold & laughed at him

#

This is the guy who has literally declared war on the WG over his friends, caused uprisings in many islands over his friends

tawny panther
#

regardless of what was said in that bar about any of those 3 dreams , Oda wasnā€™t gonna have Luffy fight at all cause he entire point of that scene was for Luffy to remember what Shanks said years and what Teach reminded him of afterwards

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ashen tide
#

Gecko Moria vs Brook

#

Who wins

#

?

ashen perch
#

Moria lol

ashen tide
#

How

#

I mean what feat did you used to scale

lilac anchor
iron oriole
#

Thriller Bark says enough

ashen tide
#

Not the before ts one

soft tangle
lilac anchor
#

Whatever happened to Nolan

ashen tide
prisma yacht
prisma yacht
prisma yacht
ashen tide
prisma yacht
#

Hella

ashen tide
#

Prove it

prisma yacht
#

There you go

#

Also a big part of that bar scene is zoro understanding what Luffy is doing

ashen tide
prisma yacht
#

As u can see it's very strong.

ashen tide
#

So you are saying strong = reliable?

prisma yacht
#

A strong feet proves moria was strong

ashen tide
#

How

#

Sanji has a strong feet

#

Does that makes him stronger than Luffy?

iron oriole
#

No because Luffys feet are stronger

ashen tide
#

Okay

#

But this doesn't prove that strong = reliable

#

That was the whole point

prisma yacht
#

The reliability part comes with my existence

iron oriole
#

Its the ol' reliable strong boy

ashen tide
hot cairn
#

any updates on the chapter? @cosmic hamlet

prisma yacht
#

6-7 hrs

#

more

hot cairn
#

okok

hearty shore
#

you'll know when embeds are disabled

#

lol

dense haven
#

CHAPTER OUT

hearty shore
prisma yacht
hasty sable
hot cairn
prisma yacht
#

SIXSEVEENNN

iron oriole
#

Chapter Sunday

grand flower
ashen perch
#

Raws aren't even out yet lol

cosmic hamlet
cosmic hamlet
gilded epoch
#

Chop

#

Nika

cosmic hamlet
#

You guys scared we will draw the raws ourself QueenKEKW

cosmic hamlet
cosmic hamlet
bold sonnet
#

@gloomy tree can you disable slowmode on manga theories rq please. i need to dump a theory and it will roughly take around 10 mins or so SCpray

cosmic hamlet
prisma yacht
#

Ok

cosmic hamlet
#

Thats what they told me, tommorrow 7pm indian time roughly

prisma yacht
#

I'll ping you 20 times if theres no chapter by 7 tmr

cosmic hamlet
#

Sure

prisma yacht
#

ok 40 times

cosmic hamlet
#

Sure

prisma yacht
gloomy tree
#

if you do that, i will mute you for spam

bold sonnet
prisma yacht
#

Lmfao evil

#

Wait is that for me

bold sonnet
#

i will let you know when i am done šŸ™‚

prisma yacht
#

What's it about

bold sonnet
#

wait and you will find out

prisma yacht
cosmic hamlet
gloomy tree
#

fronsen has no patience

dense snow
prisma yacht
cosmic hamlet
#

Good night šŸ˜“

prisma yacht
#

So early

#

Gn

grand flower
blazing depot
#

im having withdrawals feeso and meek need to hurry up

grand flower
#

Meek retired

#

Forgor how to read

dense haven
#

theorists going crazy

gloomy tree
bold sonnet
#

@gloomy tree all done. Thanks šŸ‘

dense haven
#

ur welcome

echo lake
craggy vapor
echo lake
#

those who know

dapper tree
#

Y'all need help

#

Also where's my chapter

stray prism
hazy turret
#

Holy dead chat

bold sonnet
final trench
ruby cape
#

!chop

tropic novaBOT
#

Next chapter comes out on <t:1779634800:F> <t:1779634800:R> (time zone adjusted)

final trench
#

Chop for chapter?

pseudo gulch
#

Chop for choptir

hot cairn
hot cairn
royal orchid
#

raws are late

#

providers aren't selling

dense haven
#

CHAPTER OUT

ashen perch
#

Sunday bro

dense haven
ruby cape
#

chapter out bro

blazing depot
#

STOP LYING

dapper tree
ashen perch
#

Sunday bro

tranquil blade
#

Whenever you think the chapter is coming out add 12-18 hours

blazing depot
#

i think the chapter came out 12-18 hours ago

#

CHAPTER NOW

tranquil blade
prisma yacht
#

A person who thinks all the time

wraith mantle
royal orchid
ruby cape
#

Streets saying Arsalā€™s prohibiting the chapter from releasing

#

I rather a coup de etat

pseudo gulch
#

If he can't have it no one else can

ashen perch
#

SUNDAY BRO

hazy turret
hearty shore
# ashen perch SUNDAY BRO

that's a very weird way to spell friday morning at exactly 4:53AM UK timezone but i think we're law abiding citizens here so whatever floats ur boat

ruby cape
#

discord smite him again

ashen perch
ruby cape
#

Youā€™re English?!

#

One of us!

sturdy steeple
blazing depot
#

yo bruv can i borrow a pen mate

ashen perch
#

no I am normal sorry, I said mate because they used a UK timezone smh

ruby cape
#

UK timezoneā€™s the default mates

#

Letā€™s throw that there

#

Greatest nation in the world

#

šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§

bold sonnet
echo lake
pseudo gulch
#

ngl Scotland carries the UK

echo lake
hasty sable
#

It shares that that title with France

echo lake
#

i hate everything about football bro

pseudo gulch
#

Alright I don't hate everything

hasty sable
#

Obligatory fuck the French šŸ‡«šŸ‡·

bold sonnet
ruby cape
#

Of course johto hates the World Cup

pseudo gulch
#

France is overhated

echo lake
tranquil blade
ruby cape
pseudo gulch
#

But we got better wine, food, clothes, sights, culture, history, architecture, money, bitches, shoes, money, cars, EVERYTHING

ruby cape
#

they got the natural resources and stuff there

#

but we got BIG BOY LONDON

#

AND BIG JOHN

echo lake
ruby cape
hasty sable
#

You Scots sure are a contentious people

echo lake
#

only cringe redditors hate France because they think it's funny

#

it's so corny

bold sonnet
hearty shore
#

where's not a shithole in 2026

ruby cape
#

Best city WORLDWIDE not crazy to say

#

True

pseudo gulch
#

French people's ass smell tho

#

They invented the bidet and don't use it

#

smh

hearty shore
bold sonnet
#

Bro what

tranquil blade
wraith mantle
#

I judge everyone who doesnā€™t use a bidet

pseudo gulch
#

I live close to the border and I can smell it from here

ruby cape
prisma yacht
grand flower
#

Go and up yo rank

twin thicket
#

Chapter day yippee HappyBeard

hazy turret
echo lake
#

this guy is actually racist against french people

#

what a redditor

hazy turret
#

French isnā€™t a raceā€¦.

echo lake
#

ok you discriminate against people because of their country

#

that's just as bad

river tinsel
#

Hi

echo lake
#

hello neness

hazy turret
river tinsel
#

Hru guys

echo lake
#

bro thinks hating random countries is funny

river tinsel
#

Who?

echo lake
#

cornball

echo lake
#

typical reddit humor

hazy turret
#

Crashing out over france jokes is wild lol

rose brook
#

nuke france

river tinsel
#

Woah hold up bro

#

Wdym Nuke for what reason?

echo lake
rose brook
hazy turret
echo lake
river tinsel
#

Yeah but in a kind of diffrent way not like racist towards the whole country

hazy turret
#

Nah

echo lake
hazy turret
#

Hmm I wonder what the difference is

echo lake
#

bros afraid of making jokes about certain countries

hazy turret
#

What is it that the us, the uk, france, etc have in common

echo lake
#

he only hates specific countries

river tinsel
hazy turret
#

I guess weā€™ll never know

hearty shore
hazy turret
echo lake
#

literally every government is corrupt lol

wet condor
river tinsel
echo lake
#

discriminating against people is only allowed if they're from a certain country guys

wet condor
#

I only make jokes about France when Francophiles have something to say about America lol

hazy turret
#

Alas, this topic canā€™t go on any further because of the inevitable politics

river tinsel
hazy turret
echo lake
hearty shore
#

i think the french hate their own country lol

#

if someone hating on france they JOINING

hazy turret
echo lake
hazy turret
wet condor
#

I will both make fun of France and defend them lol

hazy turret
#

SON

hearty shore
#

if this is racist you need to go see instagram

hazy turret
#

Itā€™s times like these that the no politics rule comes in and saves the day

echo lake
hazy turret
river tinsel
#

No don't

hearty shore
hazy turret
#

@ruby cape UK more like PewK

river tinsel
#

That was very lame tbh

hazy turret
#

I canā€™t help it

echo lake
#

this guy thinks the UK and France are the only countries

hazy turret
#

Sir I promise itā€™s not that deep

hearty shore
#

at least it's not like some americans who think that's the only place in the world

echo lake
wet condor
hazy turret
river tinsel
wet condor
#

So is everywhere else

#

America unironically probably one of the least selfish lol

ruby cape
tropic novaBOT
#

šŸ–•

hazy turret
ruby cape
#

Koya ban rokaya for 58 years and donā€™t bring her back

echo lake
urban sluice
#

I may be retired staff but I still have tricks up my sleeve šŸ¤“

tropic novaBOT
#

šŸ†— , channel slowmode was updated, it is now set to 6 hours

ruby cape
#

!jjobi

hearty shore
ruby cape
#

I swear AI has a command

#

!ai

tropic novaBOT
#

If you're sharing AI generated images, please make sure you clarify that it's AI and not actually made by you.

ruby cape
urban lodge
ruby cape
echo lake
urban lodge
#

What

hearty shore
#

wait you can inspect element on browser discord?

#

oh my god that's so dangerous

river tinsel
#

Why did you retire

urban sluice
echo lake
#

now everything is chungus

urban sluice
tropic novaBOT
#

šŸ‘¶

ruby cape
#

haha baby

urban sluice
hearty shore
urban lodge
echo lake
#

why would it be against tos

hearty shore
#

cause you're technically directly altering information coming from someone else

#

i'd be surprised if something like that wasn't addressed in the TOS

echo lake
#

i dont think you guys can see the chungus

urban sluice
trim lily
#

stuff like client modification is but its not really enforced

hearty shore
#

hang on let me go check the discord TOS

river tinsel
#

@urban sluice wait aren't you one of the art helpers that guided others?

urban lodge
cunning narwhal
urban sluice
echo lake
urban sluice
#

and I still am

cunning narwhal
river tinsel
#

Ye i saw you chat with others

vale heath
#

there's a lot of names i don't recognize in here today

river tinsel
echo lake
urban sluice
#

I thought this was #manga šŸ˜­

trim lily
vale heath
bold sonnet
vale heath
river tinsel
#

It seems rokaya left

#

I think

echo lake
hearty shore
#

you need to earn the right to aura

gloomy tree
echo lake
hearty shore
#

i couldn't, maybe cuz i'm too lazy to find it exactly

echo lake
#

it's not in there

vale heath
echo lake
hearty shore
#

maybe it is but i didn't read it

harsh lantern
#

Guys who is koya? Mod or bot

echo lake
#

makes no sense

river tinsel
echo lake
#

finally

hearty shore
#

why would she leave lol she's a mod

#

if anything YOU would leave in her stead

gloomy tree
echo lake
#

neness please dont leave

river tinsel
#

I think maz asked koya to "ban " her

digital spear
#

Whats happening here lol

harsh lantern
river tinsel
gloomy tree
river tinsel
#

I will try and stay as long as possible

harsh lantern
gloomy tree
bold sonnet
#

I got away with spamming on manga theories. Skill issue.

echo lake
bold sonnet
harsh lantern
#

Apparently it was too politicalšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ like I was taking abt one piece though

bold sonnet
#

Ahh I remember

echo lake
bold sonnet
#

You said something about a certain family

harsh lantern
#

I just got a warning nice

bold sonnet
echo lake
#

now i wanna know

bold sonnet
#

Comparing that said family with cd