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A job in onepieceology
So many tech bros
we are like cockroaches
time moves so slow
it's working at light speed for me
Lmao
I work best under pressure
Hm.
Something we both relate to
More like
After fucking everything up
It's the only way
Protecting joyboy from davy

why is he blue
I dont fuck it up š
Imu being scared of Joyboy and Davy Jones
He really is going to be a coward in the end I think

And a koby victim
Lol
the Imu hate is so forced
The only thing I force out of me is turd
Who hate
personally i let it go voluntarily
sometimes it's rock hard.
you called Imu a coward lol

partially responsible for ace's death, kidnapping garp, invading wano, blackbeard is genuinely asking for that bajrang gun atp
So did Usopp
he kidnapped garp so dragon can finally do something
Imu probably will be a coward. Weāve seen him quivering in fear of the shadow of Davy and shrieking in terror at Joyboyās haki.
Thatās just character
What does that mean exactly?
Invading wano?
yeah they gonna invade wano
I don't think there's a connection between Mihawk and Imu
that's anger
None whatsoever? That's crazy business twin
yes it is
no, it's anger
they keep coming back to sully the world which Imu has made
Fellas, fellas...
What if it's both?
Redon posted

Anger cuz he hates them and fear because he must face them again
anger
I've gotten used it, Archer's way of just being silly
this is "anger" lol
most of it is just disguised Blackbeard fans
yes, it's anger
Btw has anyone noticed how both Zeff and Imu have super long hats? There aren't many characters like that
Not saying there's a connection, but it's interesting
Symbolically there's clear symbolism though
anger*
Lol
The taller the crown the higher the ranking
I think people want Mihawk to be relevant so badly that they just have to make up any connection they can think of.
His heart is racing
Mihawk is relevant
Pretty much
no shit, that's what happens when you're angry too
Why am I being silly
if you want your fav character to have aura moments, keep in mind this exists
He IS the world's strongest swordsman and Shanks' rival
ironically enough, that is an angry imu
there's nothing wrong with that
The more I see this panel the more I love Imu actually
It shows he's not just an emotionless aura farmer
There is angry Imu and scared shitless Imu
aura has lost all it's meaning anyways
I considering it more like an emotional punch. We've seen how Imu reacts to memories of Joyboy, feeling his presence after 800 years all of a sudden would throw him for a loop
And the end of Egghead was the latter
Furious*
We've seen one and not the other
Maybe not angry though, it could be another emotion
Emotions are a complex thing for some people
For others (ahem, Luffy) not so much
yeah, he revolts in anger since they keep coming back to sully what he is making
Was also scared of Davy and Rocks called it out
angry*
Imu is terrified of the past
So....like every villain in One Piece? There's a tone of characters that have made that face?
Its a lot more likely that he's shaking and panting and huffing because he's physically damaged by what Joyboy's haki knot did to the Gorosei tbh
Rocks was an idiot
he got dominated by joyboy so maybe he wants do do the same to other poeple rn
Maybe that's what it is, it's fear of facing the past and/or its consequences rather than fear of someone specific
And I don't mean that in a bad way
That would be awesome though
he was huffing and shaking when Harald died for example, theres some level of blowback that he suffers
I do think he was jealous of Joyboy
and it was a haki knot btw imagine how joyboy would mop the floor with imu
no?
And Lili not loving him as well
reminder that Imu won over Joyboy in the end
Imu better have a shit ton of depth and philosophical conundrums to present or I riot
Same with Davy. Heās very vindictive.
Joyboy is the one who perished, Imu is the one who persisted
Imu is a COWard
If that was the case, he wouldn't have lost
Imu is a cow
same case with Davy too, Davy perished and Imu remained
Moooooooo
imu genuinely had to pull off the most diabolical trick ever to win against joyboy and davy when he's so scared shitless of them
š®
its not like Imu could've avoided being damaged by the knot lol, the Gorosei were the ones who were there in the field
Yeah, Imu won. So why is he still holding a grudge? Why is he so scared?
Jealousy is a part of Dominion after all
Yep
because of lili
she spread the poneglyphs
One could argue that dying isn't necessarily losing
she made sure society wasn't lost to time
and that promises from then would carry on to the future
Momoo upscale?
in this case it is, Joyboy even had to make plans for how to overthrow Imu in the future
Real.
then just imagine how hopeless Joyboy saw it be, if he had to plan for the future to do it and not himself
So far Imu has been characterized as a very small and pathetic creature to me. Heās hiding behind his powers and trappings of godhood, but he throws fits like a toddler, is obsessed with Lili, scared of Joyboy and Davy.
So I think when heās stripped of all that Imu will have a pitiful end
Because he knows that what's happening right now is inevitable, he said so himself right before he went to Elbaf
I think there is blowback, but not as much as people make it out to be. He seemed reletively okay enough to have whole conversations and give orders. I think people make it to be a lot bigger deal in their minds. He didn't like, collapse or anything
you don't need to disguise your hatred for Imu with such pretty words, lol
plus you're just dumbing the character down
you can dumb down any character and they'll look pathetic
And Imu knows he will eventually lose no matter what
I donāt hate him dude
Imu's very paranoid, I am sure before Joyboy died, he hit Imu with some sort of ''my will be carried on and you will go down'' speech that he has been obsessing over for hundreds of years. Orochi/Kaido being scared of Oden's warnings but on a much bigger scale basically.
you definitely do
You can't hold grudges against people you won against?
I mean, it IS pronounced Mo-Mu
yeah since the world is literally going against him
Imu is just characterized this way to me. He comes off as a total loser behind his power.
Pretty sure you do. It's like when I run into Law haters and they just make up random stuff because they're annoyed at his popularity
Which is only fitting imo. Imu stands at the top of the world. You want to see him brought low eventually.
Except Go D. Usopp and Buggy D. Crown
COWard imu
Yo the hints are insaneeee
Interesting you feel that way. If that's the case, every other villain must be the very bottom scum of the garbage can
A lot of them are yeah
maybe he won because it was a 20 vs 1 like 20 kingdoms vs 1
You definitely can, especially if it's a partial victory, or a temporary one
It's not mo-mo?
Are they the hints in your imagination?
the mural says otherwise
I donāt hate Imu though so itās whatever
suuuure
Heās just probably an incel
Imu and Joyboy where besties and Joyboy betrayed Imu
Or if the hate is just that strong. Literature is full of people still hate even after they've won
professor clover discovered it and because of that ohara was anihilated so i guess that can be true
what
i am talking about the mural on Elbaph
showing Imu along with 6 men, against the world
yeah i know
Even if he was, it would be just another interesting aspect of his character. Doffy is murderer and a r*apist and yet I still find him to be the best villain the series.
Yeah I donāt disagree
what i want to say is that clover said that the world government exists because they defeated the ancien kingdom where joyboy was from
Yāall are just being dramatic and think I am dunking on him because it would make him a bad character or something
I do wonder what the kingdom
is named
How many times has Zoro been mistaken for being the captain in the story
i mean that's what you're doing
Barto called him the first mate right? And Urouge or apoo or someone said something
you even dumbed him down lol
I think 2-3 times that I can remember?
Mother flame carried
Every chapter, by me
Only cause you have headcanons that you feel are under attack or something
same, maybe laugh tale because joyboy's treasure is there ?
I remember there was one panel in zou I think where they where talking about laughtale and it looked like the ancient kingdom
Is the one piece on the ruined ancient kingdom
and the kingdom was called... the emerald city
i mean if you didn't dumb him down to such an extent, i may have taken you seriously
I donāt see it that way
How can a city be a kingdom
clearly
Mu
Thereās one Iām reading now in Skypiea by Ohm where he says he must be in charge of the sea blue people, idk if youāre counting that too
Smh
i have a feeling it'll be Pangea
the city then
due to Pangea castle
I think maybe? But I remember there's a fight about that. That in the manga he's never officially called first mate, though in LA, he's been confirmed the first mate like 3 times.
waniland
I am just reading the character as heās portrayed in the story we have so far 
chat, speaking of "the world", do you think the first 20 each represented a tarot card?
imu being the world
Imu is a cuck but because lili stole joyboy from him
Wtf is wrong woth that gif
You donāt think itās a little pathetic how obsessed with Lili he is? That he wants to possess Vivi and keeps her picture because they look the same? Lol
i don't know anything about tarot cards but that sounds interesting
You know hawkins?
i mean hawkins used tarot cards
yeah, but i mean i don't know much about it in general
i've just seen it in movies, lol
is this all of them?
I think the world isn't what Imu or anyone probably refers to him as. Rocks even said it sort of as just a way to explain it to his comrades. The 20 didn't seem to be a fixed unit as in they were all in this together until later on. I think if anything. Imu was doing his own thing and just convinced/manipulated people to his side
those are the major arcana, but yes that's what media picks up for the tarot cards
So just because I spend 4 hours a day staring at the giant photo of my crush who rejected me I keep on my wall im pathetic? Im obsessed?
I dont even think of her outside those 4 hours mostly
he seems to have a thing for being inside blue haired girls...?
Do you think Luffy is pathetic for being so devoted to hearing any word he can about Shanks? Or how silly men in the world were to be devoted to Shakky? People are people. If he really loved her, then yes he would be a little obsessed with her memory. Especially considering he's a total psychopath
No Luffy is cool
So, basically it's just bias on your part then
Ask that bum to install tinder
Dude wtf is this lol
Archer be nice to imu please
Why are there rabid Imu fans
No internet yet. VP was too slow in developing it lol
Iām not allowed to say mean things about the main villain
the last few chapters did generational damage tbh
Please be nice to the guy who has spent the last 900 years in his cuck chamber seething
The question is...why are you NOT an Imu fan? 
people were calling Imu's entrance in Elbaf like that of a hero and that hes just misunderstood etc
It's Mo-mu because it's one O and then 2
Well it's technically Ma-Mu
Mah-moo
To be fair, he HAS left his chambers lol
Imu is a hero agenda š
Only to seethe at remnants of times long past
Imu might be the soy wojak manifest
Spy wojack
I yearn for Omen Cerberus
We don't know if that's Imu though
i mean, who else would it be
Me 
Sorry to spoil you guys, that guy with the crown is me
I fought a fucking tree
Imu definitely a treacherous little weasel
And won
Yikes manga chat has spoilers maybe
oh yeah itās chapter week
I can see them dipping Elbaph prematurely. They just wanted to ensure the CDās capture the hostage children while Mu stalls the strongest power houses Loki and Luffy
Choptir
And not to mention their body is cursed or something
Gonna continue rewatching the anime thru One Pace, see ya
That Zaza curse
i thought one pace was down
Just for like an hour
Plus they still had links to all episodes
brave
Marin
Redon has returned, we would have been lost to the WG hordes, but he has come back to us 
Idk who needs to hear this but please stop climbing Mount Everest
SON roflmaoooooooo
The day they both stop posting will be the best day ever
Sounds like current event politics but replace the skypeian with an asshole
80 tons of garbage collected in 2025 alone
Massive conga lines
This isnāt natural
damn
I dont think iāll ever understand this hobby
why do people think that the oceans and mountains are garbage stations
This and cave diving are both crazy
What.
Mountain climbing is amazing
There was somebody using a Sherpa to help them climb and as the Sherpa was laying there dying they were noted to be complaining that the Sherpa didnāt take any good pics of them
Its probably just my fear of heights talking. Shit is scary š
It is scary tho I'm also afraid of heights but it's also what makes it amazing
i wonder what the planet would've been like without humans
it would've been fascinating to see
And you got tiktokers filming themselves with their face literally purple as theyāre still trying to climb
Yall aināt built for this
Go home
That's just sad
I have also heard about a long running scandal which included the guides the sherpas the local hospitals ....it was about them poisoning some of the ppl and then they had to be taken down to those hospitals using helicopters which costs a lot and all of them divided those shares among themselves
I only care about earth bcs I live here.
yes but i mean similair to how the dinosaurs reign ended, how will the humans reign end?
nature has to end it somehow
We will survive and make it to mars
idk if you wanna go to a desert the saara is a lot easier to reach
Nuclear winter sounds poggers.
in billions of years, the sun will grow bigger
life on earth will be unsustainable
eventually, billions of years later after the extinction of humanity, the sun would engulf the earth and other planets
I love how cold and unfeeling the universe is.
Sorry I'll leave
A new galaxy will eventually take that place
With new life
Where are the spoilers
Spoilers are no more.......for now
Yes
First place I check
chat do you think there is intelligent alien life out there?

I should check myself just to be safe 
Probably , universe is too infinite to confidently say no , and if theyāre truly smart theyāll be using their advanced tech to hide themselves
Fuck exposing yourself to US
u think they scared of puny humans?
thatās dangerous
they can easily low diff
not before we try to enslave you
But what if theyāre the non enslaving kind but also know not to fuck with humans because weāre too unpredictable
Theyād just be cloaking themselves
idk i think it would be cool to befriend an alien nation
share our knowledge
I dont think we r that unpredictable tbh
For us it sounds great sure , for a highly advanced planet itās not worth the risk
We have only to gain
Not them
The issue would be how the existence of other life puts into question a loooot of belief systems
The violent part of us is
And if theyre more advances the tech they could offer would cause a major power imbalance
The powers that be would not like that
The reasons for violence arent that unpredictable imo
The powers that be would want it for their country and would stop it from happening for other countries
Serial killers?
The corporations that would become obselete would lobby hard to ensure we dont use it. Like big oil
Imagine an alien comes down and tries to interact with a person oops they happened to land on a murderer with someone in their basement

In a peace loving country that the Alien could swear they did their research on
Itāll be called Jeffrey Dahmer vs 100 aliens
Hello, sorry for late reply but I was tired lmao
I do try to talk here everyday, I just have more limited time because of internship lmao
And coming home pretty late so I have more limited time than usual
@runic dock shiki vs loki who wins
@ashen perch kid vs loki
depends entirely on if Ragnir is magnetic in squirrel form
well, Kid could magnetize big mom
@grok what is she talking about
Kid high diff
Meanwhile:
Slander Oda
Surely he will have an answer for this
he'll write skypeia out of the story
Like again, shouldnāt this be avoidable with observation
Cause this would mean you canāt use obs haki to avoid inanimate objects that spontaneously fall or whatever
But I guess rayleigh says specifically opponents when explaining it
But like ??? Is this not obs ? Thereās no opponent here
No way he literally saw her on the ship with his eyeballs
Shiki , he can just make all of Lokis incoming attacks float in mid air including the hammer
Rekt
how Nidhogg is doing Shiki
The answer for most of these is already given most times , and thatās each users personality , enel is cocky by nature , and you have to actively use observation for it to be effective , itās not a passive ability
Once people realize those things it shouldnāt be a problem
Enel purposely didnāt use mantra in a few situations because he underestimated them , also itās not like he had future sight either
Just regular observation wonāt let you dodge attacks in the knick of time
But he was actively using it
He didnāt have future sight as well , th page with him getting hit would be for future sight
Thatās how kata dodged similar attacks
Having regular observation doesnāt give you the speed you need to dodge something like that , enel isnāt speedy in general , just can hear people far away and use massive attacks
Nami literally says Luffy is able to land hits because enel canāt read his mind
Yeah , case in point , shows he canāt read the future
Thatās not really against anything I said
More like supports
Also here, you mean to tell me this was future sight?
Rayleigh is probably using future sight yeah
So youāre saying mantra is future sight ? Iām confused
No not what he was using, what heās saying
Observation allows you to be able to predict upcoming attacks, future sight literally lets you see into the future
Heās describing regular obs
Like an actual glimpse of events
Which says allows you to read the location, number, AND MOVEMENTS of opponents
Read the previous sentence too
Yes
Regular obs lets you see the location of an enemy , how many enemies there are , and movements of invisible people
Thus regular obs
Didnāt say anything about predicting oncoming attacks
Future suit is prediction , not reading current movements of invisible people
Literally the entire arc has been the vassals and enel telling people we are using mantra to see your attacks
Idk what more to say
Yeah from any distance , and when he gets tagged itās cause heās not using mantra because heās cocky , and no heās not always using it , thatās why luffy could dodge him and enel didnāt , he thought he could just take luffyās attacks
He also stops using mantra when heās hit with the golden bal
Heās not always using it
Rokaya is right
Rokaya is factual
In return to sabaody, Luffy dodged bullets while using obs
Checkmate
@hazy turret you're welcome
I can concede that point , but she would still be wrong about him using it 100% of the time
Why would enel not dodge and luffy dodge ?
Because enel chose to
Mentra was just beta version of obs it changed
Same complaint people have of current future sight users āwhy didnāt they just dodge every single attack ever?ā Theyāre not constantly using it , itās not passive , if they donāt make a note of it verbally or though visual cue , itās not being using
Itās such a great thing I didnāt say he uses it 100% of the time. In the chapter I sent that page from, he was using it to dodge all of Luffyās other attacks.
Why would he then randomly not dodge these?
Think about it
I mean literally a few pages ago/the chapter before he breaks his mantra and tries to regain composure
Please Iām begging you
Keyword , regain his composure
Thatās a key to using all that stuff
Iām literally actually begging
Itās due to his personality and not having composure , which comes down to what I stated
You need to be actively using it
Part of actively using it is being composed
Why are you begging exactly? Weāre having a discussion and Iām not exactly wrong here either
Use words to express what you mean if you have to
Donāt beg
Itās beneath you
Did this ultimately come down to you thinking Oda forgot to have him dodge in the arc thatās all about that kind of stuff or something? You gave me multiple points on how this has been consistent except for that one page , and regarding composure it would actually make sense why he donāt dodge in that one instance , same reason he didnāt dodge th golden ball , loss of composure = not actively using it
The key thing that I found strange was how observation haki works.
Nami says that because he canāt read Luffyās mind, he canāt anticipate his movement. Before Luffy spaced out, he WAS able to use mantra to read them. I said thatās odd because itās so specific because we see observation haki be used in situations that donāt involve opponents or reading minds.
The second page from skypiea I sent, I was saying with how weāve seen observation haki be used, he SHOULD be able to dodge. Because again, we see observation haki be used in situations where there is no mind to be read.
In the arc, with the explanation we got about mantra, it makes sense why enel couldnāt dodge those attacks. Enel didnāt choose to not dodge, and he didnāt get cocky and not actively use mantra anymore. The justification was that because when he read Luffyās mind, Luffy wasnāt aiming at him he was aiming at the gold. The attacks that bounced off are not something he can read the minds of and see
Please I beg of thee
I do not think you read my initial messages at all
guys is it confirmed that Rocks didn't have a devil fruit
We definitely didnāt see him using one I donāt think
Listen, it wasnāt confirmed he DID have one Iāll say that much
so it's possible that he had one
Possibly? I personally doubt it but like
and there's still no explanation for that mountain splitting right
Mountain splitting?
I'm sure he would've used it in his fight against Imu, but maybe his devil fruit power wasn't meant for battle
He didnāt have one
prove it
Kid
WRONG
SO GLUE
Also yeah it's actually impossible to prove that he didn't have it lol
Oh I see what you meant , and yeah I didnāt read the previous messages just the one I started to reply to
Donāt you know how discord works!
Kidd is the weakest most fraudulent fodder ever

Listen completely fair and understandable, been there done that!
WAIT if it's true that Domi Reversi doesn't work on devil fruit users, then maybe that proves Rocks didn't have one
you could also say it's because Luffy and Loki have strong wills, but I'm sure Rocks had a strong will too
Just an assumption, I'm sure Imu wouldn't need to confirm that it's not gonna work on Loki if it was that simple
true there's no way he never tried it on a devil fruit user
yeah
In this sense tho , I still have a rebuttal :
there is something still consistent in this manga about āreading intentionā, I think Rayleigh hints at it later as to why he couldnāt sense Luffy coming up to him to bonk him on the head or something like that , the wording back then was probably more rough but it comes down to āreading intentionā and if the intention isnāt directed at you then it could be dodged or something , Rayleigh hinted at something greater like that with luffyās head bonking thing
rocks def had strong will too so iām thinking maybe it has to do with mythical zoans or just devil fruits like u said
I thought Rocks would have bbs df
and the chopper thing makes me think anyone with a type of human human fruit nullifies it
What straw hat, skillset and capabilities would be most useful in real life
Tbh all those ideas about rocks having some known DF mostly was only creating inconsistencies so I understand why Oda avoided it
maybe choppa medical skills
My favorite was the Ope Ope idea but it really was difficult to explain why BM and Kaido would ignore that when facing Law lol
I want to find the panels for this scene , thereās something important in them
Fun times
this is from I believe chapter 890? I'd need to check
Its from the Katakuri fight, that I know for sure
I wanna say wci
Yeah what arsal said
so how would that be applied to the page with Luffy punching the gold? Because Luffyās intention was to punch the gold and have the attacks bounce off.
I can look for them
Pls try , I checked 890 it wasnāt there
Use the wiki
Rayleigh commented something an I think itās intention related , but it was very offhand tiny comment , I just want to remember what it was exactly cause I THINK it could apply
Canāt beat ars.aiā¦..
ooooooo
Oh my god discord
lol rayleighs face
ai search basically tells you the chapter if you describe it now so
Smh didnāt mean to double send
I mean it's presented as a case of him masking his intent basically, he's hyper focusing on only hitting the gold, just like he's able to shut off his brain to think pretty much nothing before it
Luffy can just do that
Something something ā¦presence of objects ā¦something something Rayleigh surprised ā¦something something personalities
Itās there
Well I don't hallucinate smh
Itās like your opponents personality will help you determined what theyāre gonna dodge and using objects as a source of intention towards an attack is a viable way to surprise someone
ur getting replace dby ai buddy
theyve come for ur job
Right so because his intention wasnāt toward enel, enel couldnāt anticipate the attack
i trust arsal > ai for all inquiries
Okay but it won't ever come up with a theory half as good as mine so it's fine š
But like again this goes back to my question, do we not see observation haki used to dodge other things?
Things without a mind or intention?
I mean the closest is a beam from pacifistas but they're like living beings still
An object swinging randomly in the sky isnāt gonna have intention unless itās let go by someoneās hand
what did shakky see in this mf
@arsal.ai please find an example of a one piece character dodging something falling towards them provide chapter number pls keep short answer
"This mfer empathzing with the enemy?"
was non future sight observation haki ever used to dodge inanimate objects? the only instance i can think of where someone had to dodge inanimate objects was zoro but he used the breath of all things
has a whole ass wife and talkin about "i like younger women"
Yeah I actually can't think of a case where there wasn't atleast some living being behind the attack
Is he older than shakky
Thatās sort of what I was wondering
Breath of all things is haki too, right�
Surely
Yeah
Its weird
Heās like 70 something and shakky is in her 60s
@hazy turret make this into an emote STAT
okay nevermind, you're not fired Arsal
Just asked Oda and he said no
???
One reread and I'm on top of my game again, AI wouldn't be able to compete
@runic dock kid vs shiki who wins
shiki
Prime Shiki?
Shikeez nuts
You know my answer already
shiki got this
You canāt quantify current Shiki
current shiki vs current kid, would shiki win by default
current kid is sleeping with the fish
Oda wrote his loss to pre ts Luffy, he's washed
Last available Shiki vs kid , Shiki still wins
Movie fights donāt count
Curreny Shiki's probably losing to atleast 15 creatures from Ruskaina tbh
Current Shiki is going extreme diff with Hody if we're being fr
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There is nowhere it fits given where sh were at the time of movie coming out
Hey I did NOT write strong world glex, take this up with Oda
Shiki from yano tho
movies aren't canon!
yano makes wano look like filler
But Oda with his own pen wrote "Current Shiki is going extreme diff with pre ts Lucci" on the script
An that was not canon
Just because he wrote it doesnāt make it canon
It's just how it is I'm afraid
and if you zoom out, we can see you holding him at gunpoint to write that
He can still decide itās not canon
i got pre ts urouge > current shiki
His arm doesnāt magically create canon his mouth does
An his mouth decided itās a movie
Current Urouge mid diffs atleast
Urouge probably beats imu as well so yeah
Not arguing that one
great take
pre ts Urouge fucked up a pacifista while everyone else struggled hard, he's a beast now i'm sure of it
invest now
Urouge was the first to fuck up a yonko commander
he was also the first to beat one of big moms generals iirc
larp larp larp sahur
Urouge is gonna be stronger than kaido
canāt wait to see enel in the urouge backstory
Look I'm not gonna argue on the canonicity of it, but all I know is that Oda thought it made total sense for Shiki to be that washed. It's literally part of his story.
Or at least the first to finish fucking up a yonko commander
That was hundreds of chapters ago
Bro is yonko level by now
YOU'RE WASHED
can't wait to see urouge in enels backstory
he's old as balls first time oda has made a realistic old guy in one piece
Urogue is the mastermind behind Enel
He's 20 years older, has CTE pro max from the helm stuck deep inside his head, gave up on his two sword style and gave up on his legs, replaced them with swords that sound funny more than they help him fight, it is just how it is. Yeah, it's very realistic imo
I'm not actually defending shiki, I just think Arsal is always wrong
They forced his hand , and he always regretted the way it went down
He's the root of everything that has happened in the story ever
None of this matters with one piece logic
All you need is some mink meth and chopper bandaid
CTE is a powerup and Oda loves making old people strong
And food too
No he didn't
If he could do it again heād do it different and always has to this day
He's powerful though, just not half the man he used to be
Its how Chinjao was
Food is the cure all yeah
Urouge was just really really hungry in SW
Prime Chinjao is going toe to toe with Prime Garp and current Chinjao loses to Sai
i put my life savings on shiki being the one on the phone with loki iāll let yāall know if i lose that money in a few months
Canāt wait to see urouge in urouges backstory
wait im still thinking of Urouge, i meant shikk
toe to toe?
forehead to trianglehead
band for band
Iām with you in spirit
Yes, they were rivals and Garp literally trained in order to beat him
Im talking about the foot allegations
garp had to go on the craziest training arc to beat chinjao
If garp got stronger then he wasnāt prime
SEE ARSAL ITS NOT ALWAYS ME
He was prime when he won
Oh š
Prime means your peak
If he was able to get stronger he wasnāt prime until that very moment he beat chinjao
He got stronger to beat Chinjao, unclear if he got stronger after it
That's like a 48 year old Garp, I'm willing to believe that it was definitely his prime
Side tangent but chinjao being the top of the food chain at some point before rocks had his era just proves im this manga that strength is incremental through history and āstrongā in 1950 isnāt the same āstrongā as 2026
Uh, after Rocks
Eitherway
Rocks didn't sneak up on him?
Enel just dgaf so he had the observation advantage
Also you can hide your presence in the series y'know
the eminem headgear is too goated
enelās return is the only realistic way for imu to be defeated
This is important because many are not ready to acknowledge who is stronger between them
Wapol was definitely hiding his presence 
Dont do this
It's true
Th strong of yesterday isnāt the same as the strong of today
Sabo was I'm sure. Wapol did get noticed when he was trying to sneek a peak lol, he just ran away
its like tech
Nusjuro is the one to notice him
every generation is more tech savvy than the previous
Wapol running is undefeated
I can't agree with this personally
is that true even? Ipad babies arent exactly tech savvy
Not yet atleast, I think eventually the strongest of the era will be the strongest ever
if wapol didnāt go on that run vivi would be in the chamber of flowers rn
But its definitely not the case for any of the past generations
Guys like Ryuma, Oars, Romeo, Joyboy, Davy, Elbaf, Nika, Mermaid Princess, Lili, etc probably clear everyone that can be considered strong today tbh
Oh Imu too ofc
Romeo
Romeo
Romeo
Uh, he's a real character
thats the spirit
He's the Germa king that quickly conquered the entire North Blue and ruled over it for 66 days
66 days
Ryuma's only rival >400 years ago
If only he ruled for 1 more day
Its stated in the manga
66, as in, Germa 66
Well not that it was Romeo but yknow, give it some time
I'm pretty certain that Oda has not abandoned the Ryuma/Romeo rival concept
you have very strong beliefs
He'll be introduced at some point
Also true
Thankfully
I can't sit on the fence personally
But yeah um the point was that these ancient characters are going to be uniquely powerful lol, I don't think they're getting surpassed anytime soon
In 2026 is madness
It could be any year and I'd still believe it if it made sense
Road to LT confirming the deaths is the most confirmation weāll get
And Iāll take it
mods believe in BM returning which means the bet is not ending
The last thing I want is Big Mom returning with saliva droppinv from her mouth
Would it be better if she didn't have saliva dripping from her mouth?
Yep but still I am done with her
Bring back :PuddingO: to normal emotes
@grand flower send the panel with kidās tattoo
Thought booktok would drop one piece by now, for valid reasons
When her aura was at her highest
What lol
@grand flower NOW
Yeah thatās one of my favorite Big Mom panels lol
what valid reasons?
rare bobbin fan
Wobbin
Sexism on Odaās part, objectification of women
Mostly ironic appreciation
real
Did she not pay attention to her monstrous disney witch like appearance in Fishman Island
she probablyy assumed it was a classic case of oda silhouette
Like from what angle is that Big Mom meant to turn out "hot"
It was hardly even a silhouette lol
You can't keep pinging that name it's making me giggle
@grand flower
wait til they see middle aged BM
arsal told me to ping you
What panel are you looking for and which arc is it from? Lol
Maybe I can help you out
Nah I found it
I was too lazy to dig through my photo gallery
There was a panel where I thought wyperās tattoo looked similar to that symbol on kidās arm but after checking they donāt look alike
Well maybe they didn't because they're paying more attention than the so called fan that throws around these accusations
Also tbf that person straight up wanted BM to be hot, I'm sure she's not gonna mind it lol
Booktok wants characters they can live through vicariously, thatās why she doesnāt want an ugly villain. No one wants to insert themselves to be ugly
thats deep
Unless youāre a Robin fan
lmao
strictly elbaf robin right?
I really canāt help myself, especially when Arsalās name is right there
post hair cut?
529 chapters ago and counting
This is an entirely separate discussion and TRUST I will get started
Booktok is unfortunately, and I hate to use this word, quite um... goon-brained? Its definitely more that than what you said
I didnāt want to say it, I do want to give this person the benefit of the doubt
But like thatās a pretty big thing in the online āreading communityā
what is booktok doing if there are no pictures
Well the Doflamingo take is making me lean towards it being the case
Imagine getting horny
damn is booktok actually goon brained?
I mean to be fair to her she just said attractive
i thought they were supposed to be intellectuals
I donāt think sheās gooning to one piece
well ig its not mutually exclusive
But again, you could be right
It can actually be better without pictures, sources have indicated to me
Can we get the identity on these sources
Its a good journalistic practice to never reveal your sources
Bisoromi Bear and Lulflamingo
real journalists incriminate their sources without a second thought
My sources have confirmed this as well
When does luffy get gear 2
Read the manga and find out
What arc are you on
Wano
!speedreader
Mmm
Have you ever larped a manga at the speed of light?
I skipped thst š
Eyup
so glue
It's time to edit that, keep up with the times
Red might behead you if you do that I canāt lie
Lmao
I just finished the noland flashback and itās literally peak
Okay maybe a separate command š
Like the peak of this arc too
Enel sure is a nice guy
make the command logan paul with the WSJ issues and then add the speech bubble
the peak is the bell
I forgot Logan Paul larped One Piece
There is a better moment...
We should yes
seriously best arc ending in the story
What Archer said
Could work, a little cluttered though
Colored one piece...
Broās talking like he aināt know
Ayo?
Why's the background on that Nami panel turquoise
Itās my first time trust
It looks awful
Skypeia does have the best ending of any op arc by far
Because of complementary colors
arsal doesnt know about nami's turquoise zone
Might be a top 5 ending of any manga arc...
Why can't they just keep the white space as white
I hate colored manga too, Arsal
come to the colored side Arsal
Arsal saying he prefers white over colored�
WAIT

ArsalWhite
holy shit it's your anus
the turquoise here is pretty jarring š
No but it really is terrible, the worst part is that this is everywhere
stfu about the turqoise
fairy vearth arc when
Every chapter ruins the white space like this atleast 6 or 7 times
Epilogue arc lets go
nami looks like a sticker
Oh my GOD dude
Also the worst part is that they color over Oda's few colored pages too
To make it look consistent with their awful style
why does that panel say nika
Back when whimsy was accepted in One Piece
FORESHADOWING GODA
Now everyone is so gosh darn serious
when will oda explain luffy's abiltiy to enter eyes
Imu canāt even pog
It is actually foreshadowing what happens to Luffy after his 3rd round defeat to Imu, where he gets trapped in the Redline
how is he in both eyes at the same time
Nika
Isn't that Aisa
yeah one is aisa
ohh
He made a rubber clone
Makes sense
vice captain
This will be a real thing in gear 5 btw
The redline ofc is the hellflames serpent soaked in blood
of course
Glad you agree
I canāt wait to reread One Piece once itās finished
i have never once disagreed with a theory of yours
Well that's not true actually but still
You're gonna wait TWELVE years?
Probably, yeah
I highly recommend disagreeing with his theories. It yields phenomenal results
I'd say reread in 4-5 years from now, imo that's going to be the right time
I actually have a pretty good hit rate this arc
Biggest miss was me saying that we won't get God Valley here, which was really an Oda miss for doing it here if I think about it
thats the spirit
that's how I always got by
we should normalize blaming oda for not conforming to our ideas rather than thinking we were wrong
So true
normalize blaming oda for anything
its his fault toei has bad pacing
Maybe if the series didn't run for 40 years...
I mean he did make the series
Nika pose
I think it was a good idea to slot in God Valley here. Thereās other things yet to be seen for Blackbeard. His role in the incident is actually quite insignificant. Like the most important thing is establishing his blood relation to Xebec and Davy Jones. Thereās still much to explore
Followed by Davy Jones' pegasus too, wow
i wouldve rather had god valley in a blackbeard centric arc or scene
I like how we get little Blackbeard nuggets in a couple major flashbacks
I think it's pretty unfortunate that we had it at a time where Oda really wasn't prepared to go all out with it
But I suppose this allows the BB flashback to more clearly focus on him and Davy clan's past, so I guess it'll work out
yep
God Valley was necessary for the Harald/Rocks contrast and tying Elbaf to the overall myth arc
and Luffy/Loki parallels with Rocks/Harald
Thereās a lot of loose ends to tie up with Blackbeard still. Iām mainly interested in seeing what sparked his ambition for the Yami Yami. What sort of things were instilled into him, post-God Valley, that led him down the path he chose to walk. I mean, aside from the obvious stuff
Yami Yami was the object of his revenge against Imu imo. He knows he could never kill Imu without it.
It is the power of the devil
I wonder if heās simply following a Xebec blueprint or if he figured something like that out through methods that have yet to be disambiguated. Even the two fruits thing is interesting. And like, what about his body is special?
I guess this might end up not resulting in anything. Cards arenāt totally off the table for Oda to call back to this. Otherwise itās such a curious line of dialogue lol
Nothing matters
Insert absolute cinema gif
its okay bro just watch rent a girlfriend and ur gonna be fine
So much Skypiea posting. Such a lovely feeling
I forgot that that was an entire page and not a single panel
@hazy turret what if we robbeed banks and then deposited that money in other banks we wud never get caught
so funny
Geniusā¦
Utter brilliance
I found an infinite money glitch
Best moment in the series still
Nah I need an infinite monkey glitch
Itās shot up several spots for me now I must admit
Your pfp man
Absolutely cursed
Did you lose a bet?
Why would u want infinite monkeys bro
I want infinite Garps
So I can let them commit war crimes and then you can blame it on them
Would u be able to provide enough food for them tho
Where would they live
So many questions
Well firstly in a place like South America, you can farm guinea pigs
This is very good sustain for your garps
You can't just give them American cattle
Takes too long
Naruhodo
Skypeia posting without posting Ohm panels of him dying
Is it really Skypeia posting if you aren't including stuff like that
I wish skypiea had Akainu
I wish it had Vivi
Gotta have more fan art than blackbeard atp
Easily
hot characters usually do
One more for the road
https://x.com/AllawiTGR/status/2056439369443991878?s=20
A stray Rocks entered the chat...
Man, I wonder how long Rocks lasts against actual Imu and just just his chrysalis form?
who can say
character design is a highly important part of a character's appeal, and imu simply mogs blackbeard to absolutely stupendous extents
In the eye of the beholder I suppose. Imuās obviously a more attractive character. I prefer Blackbeardās design still
Even Xebec has more fanart than BB atp
The more I see Imu the more I feel affirmed that he's getting killed by Blackbeard later on
Doubt
Fatphobia, I tell ya
Nah he probably does lol
Bb sexy too
Get Blackbeard on a treadmill
Cause his hype moments and aura are greater, but not really tbh
if you're into burly bear men then sure
BB could talk shit to Imu but Xebec could never say that dreams never end
Imagine having 2 fruits which allow unlimited amounts of creativity for artists, but ur fat so no one gaf
Blackbeard is cool
Xebec IS the hotter of the two.
Not even simply in looks, but his personality makes him more attractive
Quality > Quantity
Bb barely has good art
Its all mostly great though smh
So it's a win-win then 
blackbeard is also just not a very convincing threat compared to imu? imu in one chapter no-diffed zoro, sanji and hajrudin, cut off gerd's fingers and buffed his subordinates, he then made loki look like a chump especially with nemesis and only got hit because he started thinking about joyboy
I can't think of a display from BB that comes off as threatening as that
Xebec takes it in quality and quantity
They be making him uwuād
Imu gonna destroy Blackbeard with tumblr and twitter fangirls
I think itās hilarious
This alone is more memorable than any Xebec fanart
is tumblr still around?
yep
I love Law for more than his looks, but I will say that his looks are one of the primary reasons he's always as high as he is
The bb fandoms magnum opus
Solos all Xebec and Imu art tbvh
Law was def made for the ladies
When Imu becomes too popular to be fed to that fatty... It'll be incredible
Thereās also the guy who does canvas paintings but I forgot his name




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