also-manga

[dark nymph]

What's the Morj theory?

[pulsar path]

Lmaoo

[urban lodge]

So the end of the day it's not really a loss

[distant vine]

When Usopp is about to fight Imu again but Nami genuinely knocks him out the way

[urban lodge]

He still helped my cause

[prisma yacht]

I don't mind voting for gunko

[prisma idol]

Marine059179 clearly doesnt know the morj rule of if morj says it will happen it isnt and in fact the opposite will

[ashen perch]

He thinks Loki will get one last lightning blast in on Imu before hes just sent back, similar to how Road was beaten

[hasty sable]

Hmm

[dark nymph]

is that it?

[prisma idol]

Morj sees the ending as being happy yeah?

Like egghead

Which would SUCK

[ashen perch]

He copied the idea of Legoland being Elbaf foreshadowing from me and I guess a few other theorists but he didnt come to the right conclusions I am afraid

[hasty sable]

Usopp vs Imu battle of the gods when

[ashen perch]

yeah Bluko

[distant vine]

?

[crude nebula]

Zoro and Sanji got their matchups which means it is OVER for the enemy side

[distant vine]

Bluko...you know Elbaph is gonna end happy right?

[prisma idol]

I would rather have a we barely get out but everything is still glum over everything is okay

[crude nebula]

We all want Loki revenge or a combined lightning attack on Imu

[prisma idol]

I know, and I dont like it. I dont think that changes how I feel about it

[distant vine]

The SH's may still lose but the people will be happy

Ok as long as you know

[jade rain]

No? I think he said sh's escape while elbaf burns. That outcome is not a win it's straight up loss

[hasty sable]

This will be a total victory for the crew I think

[prisma idol]

That isnt what he said at all. 😭

[distant vine]

Imu's doing his best to aura farm but he can only edit the manga so much.

Once that runs out its over

[crude nebula]

Imu about to get fried yall 😞😢 who said this was the final villain 😭😭

[prisma yacht]

Before it was kiki do you love me

Now it's pee pee do you love me

https://tenor.com/view/minions-dance-disco-gif-8426295

[distant vine]

Blackbeard still down in the polls, theyre both finished together and BB slightly more

[jade rain]

I saw the video long back so don't remember but he mentioned some 3 outcomes and something along the line of that

[hasty sable]

It’s kind of funny the black blob wasn’t a silhouette. He just really looked like that lol.

[distant vine]

"We did alright, for a couple of frauds"

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-one-piece-imu-angry-one-piece-episode-1119-imu-looking-at-sabo-gif-3150554157530427386

[prisma idol]

Yes and he said the most likely outcome is similar to egghead, where we come out generally okay and happy. Instead of Getting out and glum or just straight losing

[prisma idol]

There it is, its to push Final villain agenda

Always is

[crude nebula]

His dads top 10 so its a W for bb

[distant vine]

After a couple appearances I was like "Yknow...he's doing a lot here for just a silhouette. He's even in daylight and everything- oh"

[crude nebula]

Hahahahahahaha this guy thought ppl dont have alterior motives

[hasty sable]

He just made himself a blob with a tall goofy crown

[jade rain]

Here comes the rationalisation but I am surprised bb is this low

[distant vine]

Lets see. Nepotism (Dad in Top 10) vs Hard work (getting 1 place more)

The decision is up to Oda

Nah the fact Imu and BB are going extreme diff to hit 50 is just too funny

[jade rain]

Crocodile and doflamingo are the most liked villains of op

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard and Imu should fuse to combine their votes

[scenic dirge]

My one piece theory knowledge got me a question right on jeopardy

[tranquil blade]

Is there some meme about Rockstar why do people keep voting for him

[crude nebula]

If you search rocks hes the first result

[urban lodge]

Rocks fans are illiterate

Nothing new

[scenic dirge]

We’re all illiterate

Otherwise we wouldn’t be here

[crude nebula]

So pretty much everyone?

[urban lodge]

Well

Looking at the poll

Not wrong

[crude nebula]

Well he IS the best character ever introduced in One piece

[urban lodge]

Even better than Akainu?

[scenic dirge]

Not Akainu?

[crude nebula]

Yall should kiss

[prisma yacht]

I'm ready when you are

[scenic dirge]

What if Akainu and Rocks kissed?

[crude nebula]

gay

[scenic dirge]

Yeah that would be the implication

[prisma yacht]

Basically bb and akainu

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/arasaka-lego-ryokygyu-akainu-aramaki-gif-12030417503401494084

[prisma yacht]

Bb is all ready

[crude nebula]

Hell naaa

[brittle basin]

canon based on how GB wants Akainu's recognition

"notice me senpai" energy

[scenic dirge]

That “attaboy” line from GB was one of the craziest lines in the series

Like holy fuck man

Get a grip

[latent hamlet]

Bold to assume GB is top

[prisma yacht]

Penny is paying homage to pee rex

The p in p rex stands for pee

What a good lad he is

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/ababa-gif-9361961961253142287

King shit

[grand flower]

i wonder if that's a yakuza thin

g

[hasty sable]

Coolest character in One Piece? Maybe

[prisma yacht]

Coolest is kuzan

[trim lily]

we need one in every group

and that means EVERY named group and crew

[prisma idol]

Who is the BB pirates traitor

It wouldnt be something simple like Kuzan

[trim lily]

pizarro

[digital spear]

exactly

[scenic dirge]

What if Blackbeard betrays himself

Thoughts?

[prisma idol]

Its actually all of them

[digital spear]

Revo traitor is Lindbergh

[prisma yacht]

He's gonna leave them

[trim lily]

much to think about

[prisma idol]

[prisma yacht]

Except the og

Yes

[trim lily]

who do we think will betray law

[prisma yacht]

He looks stupid

[scenic dirge]

NEVER trust a penguin

The most deceptive of birds

[digital spear]

The one who isnt penguin

[prisma yacht]

But theyre cute

Yc I bet you haven't noticed pennys new nick

[digital spear]

Havent seen him

oh based

[prisma yacht]

Is he avoiding this chat

[digital spear]

Is that from a bet

[prisma yacht]

It is

[mighty shell]

shachi because he's the only one not in the top 100

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/oshawott-pokemon-smug-hehe-gif-20060135

[digital spear]

What was it

[prisma yacht]

If we didn't get a gold card on gunko's vote today I get to change his nick

[digital spear]

oh thats a crazy bet idea

literally gambling

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/i-m-villain-gif-8105801559398118233

[waxen furnace]

Oshawatt 🥹🥹

[prisma yacht]

Me

[urban lodge]

I don't mind because Fron still contributed to my cause

[stone tulip]

This is peak https://fixupx.com/_helio_art/status/2055029705552637978?s=61&t=tmrNQ8p91FKbXdkpsgQfMA

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FixupX · May 14, 2026, 8:57 PM

[prisma yacht]

Dayummm

[brittle basin]

[digital spear]

oh shit its the artist who did this banger
https://x.com/i/status/2045986802008207648

Helio✨(COMMISSIONS OPEN) (@_Helio_Art)

#pokémonchampions be like

X · Apr 19, 2026, 10:04 PM

[brittle basin]

oh these are kind of sick. i like how they handled boa's face too

[digital spear]

LOL bro manipulated fronsen

[prisma yacht]

Nah I don't mind voting for gunko at all

[digital spear]

Zazagon

He really is the mother and Crocodile the father after all

[mighty shell]

yknow what i'll go vote gunko too

[prisma yacht]

So it's gonna be vivi

[dense haven]

cringe

[sturdy steeple]

Spice hi

[urban lodge]

Thank you very much Emood

[digital spear]

Crocodile got mad when he found out Dragon is Zaza because he hates rain so he left them and robbed a desert country of its rain just to make a point

[warm sierra]

Opposites attract

[mighty shell]

booo no cool frame

[brittle basin]

nice crop

[crude nebula]

Why we voting a character thats dying this arc

[warm sierra]

is already dead you mean

[mighty shell]

ace has been dead for longer than half the fanbase has been alive and is still in the top 10

[digital spear]

What is peoples problem with people voting dead characters

[alpine trench]

One Piece is really good, just reread a few chapters

[prisma idol]

Rip dragon being the rai. God theories

[digital spear]

This is a manga NONE OF THE CHARACTERS ARE ALIVE

[sturdy steeple]

I love seeing gold

[crude nebula]

Cause their irrelevant

[digital spear]

Are they?

[prisma yacht]

Penny wishes he did as well

[mighty shell]

https://tenor.com/view/nico-robin-nami-one-piece-robin-one-piece-nami-wano-gif-25481044

[digital spear]

!psa

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1201652148132118609/1209727909707784292/TenorAtlasSheIsntReal.gif?ex=65e7f9e9&is=65d584e9&hm=2fc0d2db29f8f011ce7a9c234f139d15ea1dcd3f37b81a3e8e69dbc1f3c4fabe&

[trim lily]

holy shit i finally got a gold wheel

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[sturdy steeple]

Who the hell is that

[trim lily]

cant believe you dont remember the son of king jeep

[sturdy steeple]

Oh yeah my bad I have really bad memory

[trim lily]

it happens

give it one or two rereads and youll know next time

[digital spear]

They appear in the same arc where Sarie Nantokanette appears this should be helpful

[prisma yacht]

What's ur fav moment so far

[alpine trench]

I’ve reread like 3 chapters ranging from Imu’s entry proper, so that

[prisma yacht]

The kids falling scene really has my heart

[rose rune]

Think it was one of the guys checking out shirahoshi

A suitor or whatever

[sturdy steeple]

Fun thing about One Piece is that any time I go to find a certain panel I just accidentally happen to start rereading the entire arc

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/it-peak-its-peak-it's-peak-peak-itssopeak-gif-17018235108900685726

[sturdy steeple]

Dolf really wants to be unique...

Thigh, I have to ask. Have you voted Vasco at least once

[rose rune]

Yeah

[sturdy steeple]

Good

[digital spear]

I know nobody asked but I have also voted Sarie Nantokanette

[prisma yacht]

Who is that

[rose rune]

Shitkid's wife

[mighty shell]

i was saying earlier these are the most fun i'm having weekly with one piece for years

[rose rune]

I forgot his name

[prisma yacht]

Oh her

[rose rune]

Sabo's adopted brother's wife

[prisma yacht]

Hm i remember yc sharing it

[rose rune]

Stelly?

[digital spear]

Yeah this is me when

[digital spear]

Yes

[stone tulip]

This is peak too

[alpine trench]

It’s so funny, I’m compelled to read 5 chapters afterwards

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah that's like the usual thing

You can't stop lol

[stone tulip]

Same and I do like Carrot’s helmet in this and Perona’s hat too.

Vivi is my favorite though

[stone tulip]

If this ages poorly then Morj might be cooked once again 😭

[clever idol]

Froslass is an interesting choice for shanks

[digital spear]

I assume Froslass is the one most used for hail storm in Champions and it doesnt fit for any of the others

[frigid gulch]

https://x.com/pookiepiece/status/2055335388516880400?s=46

Pookie (@PookiePiece)

There is a simple mistake from Oda in the last chapter he drew Imu's weapon with kilingham

X · May 15, 2026, 5:11 PM

Killingmu when

Or Mu-ingham

[brittle basin]

absinthe theory increases.......

[frigid gulch]

Cancel Oda

https://x.com/kadinart0/status/2055060981613547538?s=46

هينا|日向 (@kadinart0)

🌙⚔️☀️ The teachers

X · May 14, 2026, 11:01 PM

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[ashen perch]

no?

thats just what his weapon looks like from a distance

[frigid gulch]

It looks like a glaive

[ashen perch]

its the same shape lol

[frigid gulch]

Eh

But I guess it’s super far there

So it’s alright

[hazy turret]

Please use a clearer panel

[frigid gulch]

Did he have Omen flames on the other end

[ashen perch]

oh I mean it looks like a glaive from an unclear panel, that was the point to post this

[frigid gulch]

It doesn’t quite

[hazy turret]

Killingham has a trident in that panel, that panel up there looks like Imu’s weapon

That two sided spear sword thing whatever it’s called

[ashen perch]

he had flames, that panel is his silhouette so it looks like omen

you can see the flames there

[prisma yacht]

I'm so sleepy today

[frigid gulch]

Wuh

[grand flower]

i'll tuck you in

[prisma yacht]

Goodnight ppl

[frigid gulch]

The end looks like it has Omen flames

[ashen perch]

tbh I imagine he can use Omen now though

[frigid gulch]

And the ring

[prisma yacht]

Thanks shuron

[frigid gulch]

Maybe so

[prisma yacht]

[frigid gulch]

The power of Omen coarsing through their body

And it existing in everything

[hazy turret]

It’s about salience and optics ig

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[ashen perch]

Qilingham has so few panels in his human form

er, hybrid

also Oda just forgot to draw the other half of the trident here

[hazy turret]

Nah

[brittle basin]

absinthe piece

[frigid gulch]

Olda strikes again

[hazy turret]

How do I remix pictures

Did discord remove that feature

[frigid gulch]

Oda didn’t bother correcting this ig

[hazy turret]

It’s just behind the cloud thing

[grand flower]

do you you think you could ride killingham's hybrid form

[frigid gulch]

Ye but you can see a little through the opening there prob

[ashen perch]

okay yeah I guess there's no flame at the end

I thought there was

[ashen perch]

I guess its just really hidden

[ashen perch]

this one kills me because its a scene all about kitetsu

[ashen perch]

and Oda forgets to actually draw it like one

[frigid gulch]

Seems like Omen creatures

[grand flower]

it's not impossible he grabbed some from his Hagoromo

[ashen perch]

maybe yeah

[frigid gulch]

Depends if they can wield it beyond it just being a boost but

[ashen perch]

I guess Zoro could've just sensed it but its still funny

''Kitetsu?!!" when it doesnt even look like Kitetsu

[frigid gulch]

Oda musta been sleepy

But the volume idk

[prisma yacht]

He cld feel it bro

Deep inside of him

Is a monster

Lurking

[frigid gulch]

I’m sure they could feel the aura of the sword

[blazing mantle]

Why is Ethan’s sword so big

[azure wasp]

It does tho

[rose rune]

Good genes

[blazing mantle]

It’s Lemi

[frigid gulch]

Once they clashed

[blazing mantle]

Well well well

[azure wasp]

[clever idol]

Cuz ethan changed size

[ashen perch]

the guard is the main characteristic of the kitetsu sword, which its missing in the previous two pages

also I am sure Nusjuro just changed the size yeah

[frigid gulch]

Even when they get blown away

[ashen perch]

Hybrid Nusjuro was about 3x the size of regular Nusjuro

[frigid gulch]

It probably adjusted with his size

Oda usually does that

Otherwise characters would wield something much smaller

[ashen perch]

I actually dont think he does? Didnt Kaku wield his swords and they were still small in his hybrid

[frigid gulch]

Nah

They became huge

[azure wasp]

I mean missing guard is still just a art mistake tho.

Besides zoro cpuld tell kitetsu was cursed in louge town, i think he can feel se vibes from this probably

[blazing mantle]

Like with odens swords

[prisma yacht]

@grand flower I pinged you on some stuff a day back you didn't reply

[azure wasp]

Nah, it was huge

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/kaku-vs-zoro-zoro-roranoro-zoro-kaku-one-piece-gif-19605826

[frigid gulch]

Rocks too I would say

[ashen perch]

what the hell

[frigid gulch]

In Domi Reversi

[blazing mantle]

You can check the manga it might be different

[frigid gulch]

Although it kinda does change the weapon with it

Eclipse had no Reversi quirks tho

[frigid gulch]

[brittle basin]

What would this fight look like if Oda drew it in 2026?

[blazing mantle]

Still huge

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-wiping-nose-swiping-nose-haircut-meme-gif-11462894082253073820

Let’s not do that

[azure wasp]

Oda and size consistency doesn't belong in same sentence

[frigid gulch]

Pretty much

Loki is legit though

But that’s part of Nidhogg’s stuff

[azure wasp]

Well sommer is going to be a funny opponent like kaku so we will see soon enough

[blazing mantle]

Cause Loki is already bigger than everyone

[frigid gulch]

Nidhogg is massive tho

That’s what I mean

[ashen perch]

oh you got it already

[blazing mantle]

Does he make hammer ragnir look tiny

[ashen perch]

I was looking for the panel and landed like 10 chapters earlier smh

[frigid gulch]

Yea it should

[ashen perch]

I need an Enies Lobby reread

pic related because that was the chapter I landed at

[ashen perch]

pretty much the same

[blazing mantle]

Kalifa…

🤤

[ashen perch]

also I forgot Usopp tanked this

[blazing mantle]

Jabra AP downscale or usopp durability upscale

[ashen perch]

Usopp upscale ofc

[blazing mantle]

Name checks out

But you might be right

[azure wasp]

Ussop has infinite endurance

[blazing mantle]

Does that ten finger pistol thing ever work

[grand flower]

oh shit what was it about

[blazing mantle]

I feel like Jabra used that a couple times

But it didn’t do anything

[fallen meteor]

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FixupX · May 15, 2026, 6:57 PM

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[prisma yacht]

What do you think about sabo going literally insane

[fallen meteor]

what why did it not embed

https://x.com/newworldartur/status/2055361884291764336 ?

Artur - Library of Ohara (@newworldartur)

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

THE INTERACTIVE ONE PIECE WORLD MAP WILL RELEASE THIS SUNDAY MAY 17TH

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X · May 15, 2026, 6:57 PM

ok this one did

[blazing mantle]

W artur

[grand flower]

OH highkey i feel like that may happen i like the anime scenes of something not being right wit him

[prisma yacht]

What do you have for akainu in the end of the series

[azure wasp]

Janitor at sabo office

[blazing mantle]

Chill

[prisma yacht]

I had a thought about akainu and sabos fight not going well

[blazing mantle]

If sabo wins it’s an ace upscale

So I win either way

[rose rune]

He still has shrapnel in his brain from when he was shot by the celestial dragon

[blazing mantle]

Wasn’t it a cannonball blast

Do those have shrapnel

[formal wagon]

thats fire

cartographybob

[rose rune]

The ship has

[blazing mantle]

Ohhh

[azure wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-gif-20361531

#realsungod

[blazing mantle]

Why are the links not working

[rose rune]

Or maybe it's headcannon, where the cannonball is still in his head

[blazing mantle]

It’s plausible

Or I guess not cause it’s just a scar on his head

[rose rune]

That's where the ball entered

[frigid gulch]

Rockstar being #36 is genuinely wild

[blazing mantle]

😭

[blazing depot]

counting or not counting filler islands

[trim lily]

the people LOVE rockstar

[frigid gulch]

It’s probably cause some of Rocks’ traffic is going to him

[blazing depot]

the funniest explanation is rocks fans are illiterate

[formal wagon]

💀 💀

[azure wasp]

Meme power

[formal wagon]

reading is overrated anyway. We're all "reading" a picture book

[rose rune]

Damn you guys and that japanese cartoon of yours

[frigid gulch]

Omen Rockstar

[prisma yacht]

Bet

[azure wasp]

Crazy ace still has coolest moves

Needs more aura farming from logia users

Akainu gotta be least creative DF users
Makes volcano move inspired after his DF
Make a dog after his epithet

Embarrassing

[wise vector]

Grown ass man playing with buterflies

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/lab-labe-zolu-zoroxluffy-one-piece-gif-18008154

[crude nebula]

2 omen sommers

[royal orchid]

Akainu the kind of guy to name his attacks Punch 1, Punch 2 and Punch 3

[prisma yacht]

fih

[formal wagon]

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/opmangart69/status/2055345985899954627/photo/1

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X · May 15, 2026, 5:54 PM

[prisma yacht]

chapter will be out soon

[wraith mantle]

Predictions for next chapter?

[prisma yacht]

hold on tight younglings

[dense haven]

zoro will appear

[prisma yacht]

you mean the kitty boa kicked in her intro ?

[unkempt sable]

We probably start the zoro vs sommers and sanji fs killingham fight, Loki and imu fight continues, and luffy stops eating.

Also probably more lore on that big owl

[dense haven]

LUFFY WILL EAT

[unkempt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-hungry-one-piece-gif-8204678309126689529

[dense haven]

20 CHAPTER OF LUFFY EATING

[wet condor]

Been doing a lot of that lately

Swear every other chapter they’re eating something

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/nikocado-avocado-nikocado-nikocado-avocado-crying-nikocado-avocado-fail-mukbanger-gif-23807523

[prisma yacht]

i like chicken

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/bloopi-cat-kitten-ch-imen-mmmm-gif-26452639

[royal orchid]

a Ford F-150 has more mileage than gear 5

[prisma yacht]

thats me

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-binturong-15th-fifteenth-gif-3632117355278812686

they gave a binturong frosted tips

this world is so fucked

gg go next

[urban lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-binturong-32nd-every-month-32-gif-3518491353815351601

[brittle basin]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExY3Npa3FsNTQ0Y3d3MGxhdTliemZydHp1NDY3bHFrZWd6aDUxOWtzeCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/lhHznExk22Iy32xFY9/giphy.gif

[prisma yacht]

blackbeard is pregnant

[restive sierra]

pudding is the father

or kuzan

[formal wagon]

no, its that father

[gritty tangle]

It’s me

[prisma yacht]

[wet condor]

Lol. This true but even more generally, it always feels like for every 10-12 chapters, there's always at least one of them eating something

[sick dust]

Gear 5 minutes seems pretty impractical overall

[stone terrace]

Luffy needs to pace himself

Why start with g5

Granted against imu its warranted here

But he didnt even wait to get there

[blazing depot]

Another week of work done

[deep chasm]

yea I dont think he'll ever be smart enouhg to do that

[gleaming notch]

do this to everyone you know

[dense rapids]

The Reverberations of the Great Bell is the song the Earth God sings

[dense rapids]

Earth God Davy Jones

[dark nymph]

awesome

[wraith mantle]

watch one of the gods be related to the thriller bark monsters

[dense rapids]

Blackbeard uses the gura gura to mimic Davy jones reverberations

[grand flower]

He bounced it off a mirror at one point didnt he

[dense rapids]

Yea I think so

Foxy has light waves while Davy jones will have sound waves

Shoujou = Davy Jones

Masira = Joy Boy

[dense rapids]

Same arc Blackbeard is introduced

[ashen perch]

Imu really might've been holding the images of all the gods

[dense rapids]

Imh would’ve been holding the image of all the gods in the Harley

[ashen perch]

I did think that was the case before, but changed my mind recently because Chopper as forest god made sense too

But I'm not sure anymore

[dense rapids]

Naw I think forest god is Imu

The trees + music make too much sense

If we’re connecting the gods to those combinations

It’s either Forest or his devil is just a devil and not god, but still has its own music

[ashen perch]

Well perhaps, but even with the Harley, that's all the 5 gods represented if you include Imu

[dense rapids]

Demon King of Songs

4 Gods and the Devil

If it’s that then forest god chopper could still be thing

[ashen perch]

The original idea I had for the forest god was Shirahoshi, because of her promise to Luffy. She's really connected with forests throughout the FMI arc and wanted to see one someday with him

[grand flower]

I fuck with the idea

[ashen perch]

That was before the Harley named a Sea God too, but yeah

[grand flower]

The demons are the sea kings

[lavish mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466445902096105686/1486462200318136410/togif.gif

[dense rapids]

Brook would be a Davy jones foreshadow too

A cursed musician

[ashen perch]

It could still work yeah, if she's just both

[dense rapids]

Also Davy and the whale

Brook and Laboon

And oda posting those imu pics of him inside the mouth of a great fish with two skeletons

[grand flower]

Kid is heavy into music both aesthetically and in his personality

He mentioned fire scar, like Blackbeard, and they both have those bounty numbers

[dense rapids]

Could be a Davy

There’s someone else

I’m forgetting

[grand flower]

Who is?

You mean buggy?

[dense rapids]

I meant with the music/soundwave connection

[grand flower]

Buggy, Teach and Kid I think are all Davy

[dense rapids]

Shandora rung the Golden Bell to announce to their people they “We are Here”

[grand flower]

Apoo looks like a monkey

[grand flower]

16 rings of the ox bell

[dense rapids]

If Davy jones is the earth god then he’s probably stuck somehow and is sending the sound of the bell

[dense rapids]

“I AM HERE”

[grand flower]

@ashen perch

[dense rapids]

Under reverse mountain

Re: Varse Mountain

Return of God

[ashen perch]

Yeah, Imu's represented by the Ox during Water 7 too, where Luccis wearing an Ox mask with Imu's exact same eyes

[dense rapids]

Imu trying to mimic Davy jones

Davy jones had the golden bell

Imu created the silver bell

[ashen perch]

It was the bell that was hung on a certain ship

[dense rapids]

Ox Lloyd

[ashen perch]

That's actually mentioned by Kid of all people

Yeah that

[dense rapids]

The theory is that it isn’t Ox

But O X

The sun symbol

So it would be Gol X

the O is a sun symbol and the X is a Roman numeral

Was the theory

So it would be Gol Diaz

Gol D

Gol D Lloyds

Goldilocks

Or Gol D Royds

Royds and Roger

[pallid niche]

Gol Diez Nuts

[ashen perch]

Ooh

Also I was wrong, it was Killer who mentioned it but it appears to be a very famous ship atleast

[dense rapids]

Maybe the name of joy boy ship if that’s the meaning

Gol 10

Sun Day

Oh

The Sunny Day?

[grand flower]

And kid has a very pronounced disdain for nobles

[dense rapids]

Have you guys seen the theory that Oda is using the events of the second world for the story in Elbalph and that the last lines are happening soon

[grand flower]

I’d listen to that getting broken down

[dense rapids]

Basically what I read was that each line is being repeated in Elbaph in a way

Within the void there was breath - Loki in the underworld

The forest god sent forth ma = Imu sending holy knights

The sun spread the fires of war = Luffy riding war god Loki

Those of half moon/moon dreamed = killingham summoning mma

And that the “sun” for Elbalph is Loki and shirahoshi will get mad

[lavish mirage]

bro you know ALL the theories possible💀

[trim lily]

all theories future and past

[quiet ice]

I love that none of these theories will be true

[lavish mirage]

maybe they will

there is some theories that everyone said where never going to be true but are in the story rn

[trim lily]

for better or worse

[grand flower]

What is the original context 💀

[hot cairn]

I wonder if people hated this chapter when it dropped

[hasty sable]

some people did complain about katakuri being goofy

Vivi picture

[urban lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/hihimaru-one-piece-gif-6326402862368782070

[hasty sable]

Lowkey the paneling was probably at its most compressed in WCI and he got a lot better about it in Wano

[iron oriole]

Baboon with a Rocks feat

[pseudo gulch]

It's a variation of the "nothing ever happens" meme

There's a billion of it

[tranquil blade]

Such a good introduction, even though this is technically not the first time we saw him

[pseudo gulch]

I'd still count it as an introduction since this was the first time we saw his full Zoan form

At least I think this was the first time

[dark nymph]

lowkey had more aura than Imu's introduction

[hasty sable]

Hard to replicate

[grand flower]

Kaido saying bring those “children” to me as an insult

Sunachi means “abandon your name and be as a child” as an act of resolve and bravery in the face of certain danger

Kaido has always been on the wrong side of despair vs resolve

Defeated by Joy Boy

@alpine trench @hot cairn @ashen perch @stone tulip @digital spear

Even Luffys bday is children’s day

Wano is so good

[stone tulip]

Good catch

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/rocks-d-xebec-vs-harald-meet-swords-attack-gif-13209110536513021726

[grand flower]

I like the little ways Oda shows the difference between Kaido’s wrong philosophy and the “right” one

[mighty shell]

yeah i mean a broader theme of wano is the new generation surpassing the old right

to be as a child is to have limitless hope and imagination

[final trench]

Shoulda been may 6 but aye

[stone tulip]

Same here, wano is overhated

[thick mango]

wano has a lot of good but i think its overstuffed

i even felt that way binging it i cant imagine weekly

[hot cairn]

cook

[grand flower]

The universe fumbled

[grand flower]

Kaido is really layered. He bounces off other characters so well

Same with big mom

[grand flower]

Yeah i like how Oda shows it in the new generation’s resolve to push forward and the emperors being stagnant

I have an idea

Okay I actually watched that grand line video on Mihawk

I like his idea that Mihawk was a young CD who found the hunting games disgraceful because there wasn’t any real sport or challenge to it

“I’m not like those fools”

[tidal ice]

yep "too many cooks" kinda situation..had the ninjas, yakuza, numbers, scabbards, probably a couple other side factions ongoing there

[grand flower]

I’m ngl I can think of a moment with each of them that i liked

And having them is why I like Wano so much

[thick mango]

I just think a version where it picked the top 70% gave that more focus and cut away the bottom 30% woulda been better

[grand flower]

I think the popularity polls kind of demonstrate something

The 30% you would want gone might be part of someone else’s 30%

[hasty sable]

Did Oda use this Sanji face twice lol

[grand flower]

I think I’m willing to accept the ones that I don’t care too much about as long as they mean something

I didn’t feel like my time was wasted. There’s something to be attached to, even if it doesn’t land for everyone. I think Wano would just be losing story without it

The ninja squad makes the moment where Kaido beheads Orochi more impactful because it gives an army for Kaido to immediately usurp

[hasty sable]

Oda put his whole pussy into drawing Wano so it has that

[grand flower]

Them being traitors to Kaido fits with Orochi’s own slippery and deceptive nature, it makes sense theyre his squad

Theres stuff I came back to later and appreciated more with time to revisit Wano at a leisure. Like Raizo getting set on fire first and winning out because oden died in the oil

I wouldn’t take that out

Who’s to say someone else wouldn’t though? But there’s still a story there at least

[grand flower]

You can tell he’s wanted to do it for a while

[thick mango]

i just think the seeming unwillingness to cut anything brings everything down. whether you think its the best part or the worst part its all lessened by there being too much

[fast pagoda]

@formal wagon

[royal orchid]

apparently oda drew killy with Imu's spear last chapter

instead of his trident

[distant vine]

I was about to post this lol

https://x.com/Neo__Uma/status/2055403830041330029?s=20

Neo Uma 🐈‍⬛ (@Neo__Uma)

I'm sorry I had to 😭😭
#ONEPIECE

X · May 15, 2026, 9:43 PM

[hot cairn]

LOL

[distant vine]

Oh Oda, how you've scarred me

[hot cairn]

keep wishing carrot

[carmine dust]

carrot is zaza

[hasty sable]

One Piece is the greatest story of all time no notes

[hot cairn]

you reading one piece for the first time?

[pulsar path]

Me when I get donuts

[grand flower]

Our opinions are completely mirrored, it’s interesting

[grand flower]

Our opinions are completely mirrored, it’s interesting

I feel like taking stuff out makes the story smaller. Less in it

[thick mango]

I guess I would say whatevers left can shine brighter

It's hard to put exactly into words I wish I took notes when I was reading wano for the first time

Each thing can be deeper if there's fewer things

That's probably what motivated the wci crew split

[quiet ice]

Are you just catching up?

[formal wagon]

W carrot

[balmy field]

thats zoro or luffy who trusted zoro

[spice cairn]

Oh are you reading peak

[charred flower]

Vote for Luffy and make Zorocopers taste the ground

[stray bear]

Zoro always wins.

[grand flower]

I completed peak yesterday

[spice cairn]

I caught up but im reading

[grand flower]

I hope have fun like I did

[balmy field]

https://giphy.com/gifs/southparkgifs-3o6ZtryJd8BkpFxXOg

[crude nebula]

Son werent you getting cooked in #manga

[harsh lantern]

Yeah but he likes going to other channels to make fun of people

[balmy field]

cooked? ninja he left

[balmy field]

you are ragebaited lmao

[harsh lantern]

Still here bro

[balmy field]

you both cant win against me

[balmy field]

who said you? i was talking about that zoro guy

[harsh lantern]

It’s so cute that u think he left cause of u😂😂

[balmy field]

i never said he left cuz of me he js left

you were making fun of reading comphrension of me? now ig its my time

[crude nebula]

You’re so tough n shit

[harsh lantern]

“You were making fun of my reading comprehension?”*

[harsh lantern]

“You were making fun of reading comprehension of me” doesn’t make sense bro😂😂 I’m gonna stop arguing w u now cause it turns out ur actually like 11

[jaunty marsh]

From India🇮🇳??

[harsh lantern]

This Chad guy? Probably yeah w the way he’s talking rn

[jaunty marsh]

Both 🥸

[harsh lantern]

Nah bro I’m not from India 😂😂

[balmy field]

it was to taunt your ass

[balmy field]

no i am not from India and btw why are you racist towards other people?

[balmy field]

wow bro you are so mature

[balmy field]

ik nvm

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-rigby-rigby-the-cat-rigby-cat-gif-12777307700590236451

[harsh lantern]

He’s being sarcastic

[balmy field]

bro are you a 5yo first time using internet?

[harsh lantern]

😂😂 now ur using my lines? At least make up ur own bro

[balmy field]

confirmed "use your own lines"

cry dude

https://giphy.com/gifs/black-crying-rhgifs-VNTMx3LkpG2anXpwbr

[harsh lantern]

U know someone’s brain dead when they use gifs to communicate

[rose rune]

@balmy field @harsh lantern
both of you stop.
this is just sad to watch

[harsh lantern]

Bro he’s the one pushing the fight

[balmy field]

ok

[balmy field]

what?

bro sybau

[rose rune]

yeah, but it won't stop unless both stop

[rose rune]

chad, pls

[balmy field]

i am stopping it

[harsh lantern]

Alr I will stop

[balmy field]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-im-here-to-end-this-war-im-here-to-put-an-end-to-this-war-im-here-to-stop-this-war-stop-this-war-gif-738727450165976454

[tidal ice]

mom he started it

[frail kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/combo-breaker-combo-gif-15109656

[balmy field]

yoo glex is back

[sick dust]

GIFs you can hear

[frail kindle]

the people that made killer instinct made the recent invincible vs fighting game

[sick dust]

I heard bad things about the game

[sick dust]

Well at least the player base

When it comes to handling Losses

[frail kindle]

I'm not a fan of tag fighters to begin with so idk

[frail kindle]

I mean its a popular IP so it makes sense that more casual players would play and disconnect more often

[alpine trench]

i was having fun seeing the fight

dammit

[sick dust]

I can’t imagine the slander Harald would get once the anime gets there

[frail kindle]

what fight?

[sick dust]

Many memes and moments become mainstream or created when the anime gets to it

[rain cedar]

Harald received less backlash than Garp did after godvalley lol

[frail kindle]

thats cause people are stupid

garp shouldn't receive backlash to begin with

just a bunch of agenda shit

[rain cedar]

Pretty much, Yeah

[muted hedge]

https://fixupx.com/Spider_Rican/status/2055332387178058056

Spidey (COMMISSIONS OPEN) (@Spider_Rican)

The sun and the eclipse
︀︀#OnePiece

**💬 4 🔁 205 ❤️ 1.6K 👁️ 10.2K **

FixupX · May 15, 2026, 5:00 PM

i really dig the idea of Imu representing the solar eclipse

[rain cedar]

It was so tiring to see people ask why Garp serves in the Marines when he said it himself like 24 times in the manga

[muted hedge]

they don't want to understand

[ashen perch]

Don't mess with One Piece "fans", they don't read their series and instead get their takes from the internet

[prisma yacht]

Just the thought of this is making me so pissed

I need to lower my cortisol

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-grogu-mandalorian-the-gif-19442802

[sick dust]

yeah the manga isn't as big as the anime in the general public.

[muted hedge]

there's a lot who just reads or watches just to hate

[raven marten]

Ussop will be stronger then jimbe, i hope loki dies on this arc and chopper is the forest god

[sick dust]

Despite my hate for Toei I do watch clips for my favorite moments

Like Loki’s introduction for example

Or when Luffy Stopped Doffy from killing law

[raven marten]

There people thinking nami is the rain god. Which makes no sense beacuse to my knowledge she hasn’t eaten any devil fruit :-:

[frail kindle]

people also think the earth is flat

[prisma yacht]

it's not?

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-silly-silly-cat-gif-1731118170300952818

[sick dust]

That’s the one thing I don’t like about theorypiece

People just throw things at the wall to see what sticks

[raven marten]

Theories are legit supposed to make sense

Maybe one piece aren’t for you

[sick dust]

As opposed to well thought out theories

[raven marten]

99% theories and power scalling

is all one piece is

[sick dust]

Not fully your forgetting adventure and character dynamics

[raven marten]

Mb

I meant to say the fandom of one piece

[sick dust]

The adventure is the thing most gravite too if anything

[tidal ice]

i know it is

why the ground flat if earth sphere

[raven marten]

Gravity

[sick dust]

Why does boat disappear in distance if ground is flat?

[tidal ice]

out of simulation render distance

[raven marten]

Could be fog and stuff

[sick dust]

If earth flat you’ll still be able to see boat

[prisma yacht]

So glue

[rain cedar]

Gotta give them credit where it's due, the fights reach a whole another level in the anime

[sick dust]

Oda used to be good at fight choreography

[rain cedar]

He was but I think he's more constrained by pages now

[sick dust]

Loki vs Imu was the first fight I feel emulates that pre timeskip feel again

[rain cedar]

The choreography just isn't all that smooth in the manga

[rain cedar]

It's not like he can't do it but I think it suffers more due to the fact that he tries to fit more content in 1 chapter than he did before

[raven marten]

Big mom could have been stronger then kaido*

she had so much potential

[rain cedar]

Wano toei was straight up crazy

[sick dust]

Idk about equal but Oda could of treated her better in wano

[raven marten]

I think big mom was stronger then kaido but she didn’t use her fruit to its full potential

[sick dust]

She was definitely treated like a joke to lift up Kaido

[raven marten]

Wdym lift up kaido

Kaido saw her as a big problem

[sick dust]

As in give Kaido the bigger portion of the spotlight

[raven marten]

Kaido said to king “make sure big mom don’t step foot on wano, if she does we gotta go to war, and i don’t wanna do that you know she is a problem”

[raven marten]

Yeah true

It was mostly beacuse oda made a 400+ episodes long saga

[sick dust]

Then he proceeds to make a ailance with her and she later gets ranned over by Franky

[raven marten]

about kaido

[raven marten]

Kaido didn’t wanna smoke with big mom therefore he made a request to team up.

No one wants to smoke with big mom

Roger himself avoids fighting big mom

[sick dust]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-funny-big-mom-franky-brook-gif-23707214

I’m sorry but I can’t take BM seriously after this

[raven marten]

Yeah…

[sick dust]

Especially when she mostly did nothing all arc besides the rooftop fight and the law and Kidd fight

[raven marten]

If kaido says he doesn’t wanna smoke with her beacuse she is a big problem then you gotta take her seriously. This is the same kaido that oneshotted luffy btw keep in mind that luffy was stronger then doffy

[sick dust]

Not counting the amnesia mess

[restive lintel]

BM vs Kid-Law was so peak

[raven marten]

She did wanna fight luffy and destory him after what he did in fish men island

[raven marten]

Yeah

if she had the iq she definitely had potential to be stronger then any emperor

[sick dust]

I mean when you have arc full of nothing burgers. That fight along with a few others around bond to stand out

Onigashima had too much going on

[restive lintel]

You sound like you didn't like Wano at all so it makes sense

[sick dust]

I didn’t.

[restive lintel]

Easily, she is an absolute unit

[raven marten]

Big mom could have beaten law and kid if she had eaten 2 years

[raven marten]

True

[sick dust]

Because of Onigashima

One moment we got the rooftop fight the next we have the oni virus

[restive lintel]

Oni virus part was the weakest subplot I agree

[sick dust]

One moment we got apoo being funny the next we got chopper and Ussop running away from the numbers

[dense haven]

oni virus was just to give chopper something to do

oda does it every arc

[restive lintel]

Multiple plotlines in an arc has always been a thing

[rain cedar]

Omi virus was not the worst sub plot because we had the flame slime thing for that

[restive lintel]

Wano was almost nothing compared to Dressrosa

[rain cedar]

Kazenbo or wtv

[sick dust]

But not as dense as Onigashima

[restive lintel]

Dressrosa had more confusing progression

[sick dust]

Dressrosa definitely floated better than Onigashima

[restive lintel]

You had Zoro hanging around with Tontattas, Usopp & Robin around Sugar while Franky was fighting Senor from act 1

[dense haven]

floated like a turd in the bowl

[sick dust]

Because every conflict felt important and engaging

[raven marten]

What do yall think about the end saga (elabph)

[sick dust]

While Onigashima only a few things are important while the others are there to pad out time

[raven marten]

I think it lost the plot

[restive lintel]

Wano flows by much easier, not a surpise since its divided between acts

[raven marten]

It’s at the center of gods and not pirates anymore

[alpine trench]

https://x.com/kosuzu78/status/2054924379738546256?s=20

小鈴 (@kosuzu78)

ちびなすとzfにゃん🐾

X · May 14, 2026, 1:58 PM

[restive lintel]

Only Loki & Zaza

[sick dust]

Which fight do you remember more? Franky vs Senior pink or raizo vs fukurokuju.

[raven marten]

luffy and imu to

[sick dust]

Or at least found engaging

[rain cedar]

Completely unfair comparison lmao

[alpine trench]

bro what are you even trying to compare here

what

[restive lintel]

Being the god of war is also just one aspect of Loki, it gives the fight more context but his conflict with Imu currently is about protecting Elbaph and his father's legacy

[rain cedar]

I could compare kaido vs Luffy with senior pink and franky, let's not talk bullshit

[restive lintel]

Franky vs Senor Pink is a much better fight no comparison, Raizo vs Fuku is just a battle of attrition

[sick dust]

Do you remember how Jimbei vs Who’s who turned out?

[raven marten]

From mus side it’s about showing how a god fights and etc

[restive lintel]

Imo God Piece will get to me if Oda makes Dragon some sort of God too

[alpine trench]

yes jinbei vs who's who ended up with who's who getting his fucking mask punched into his shitty face

[restive lintel]

Atp it'll be a problem

[sick dust]

I am not asking you the question

[raven marten]

he probably won’t he will probably make someone random on the blue seas get the god fruit

[sick dust]

Also it was the fight as a whole

[restive lintel]

Who Who only existed because Oda forgot to foreshadow Nika

[raven marten]

oda has been trolling a lot

[rain cedar]

I think the problem might be that you don't remember wano fights at all instead of comparing it with dressrosa

[raven marten]

i see imu having pink and red hair

i can’t lie oda has taken notes from boruto when it comes to the design (imu)

[restive lintel]

I think Zaza is obviously Vivi, don't know why many people think its Dragon

[sick dust]

So you indirectly admit it wasn’t memorable outside of the Nika fruit lore?

Which is likely the only thing people remember about that fight

[raven marten]

I think it’s the man marked by flames

[dense haven]

dragon fans are desperate

they need him to do something

[tidal ice]

@native seal is this true

[raven marten]

Dragon is top 5 :-:

[restive lintel]

It wasn't the best fight out of all the 1v1s that were setup

Ulti's fights were better

[restive lintel]

The man marked by flames is the Rain God Zaza you think?

[sturdy steeple]

No?

[restive lintel]

That man creates whirlpools

[sick dust]

Idk if you can call any those interactions a “fight”. I like Ulti but Oda had her chase Nami and Ussop the entire arc and beat Nami up

[ashen perch]

I remember less about Senor Pink v Franky than I remember WW v Jinbe tbh

[raven marten]

Yeah the whirlpools, he has probably sided with imu and now is stopping the new generation from finding the one piece

[rain cedar]

Wasn't senor pink vs franky a longer fight as well

[ashen perch]

Franky kissed Kuween and I guess Senor Pink had a highly overrated flashback

[rain cedar]

WW vs jinbe was like 2 chapters max

[ashen perch]

Not really

[alpine trench]

90% of senor pink vs franky is both the opponents going "oh i'm a better man" and that one kiss to the fat lady before the flashback

[restive lintel]

I'm only making comparisons, Ulti was also a more entertaining villain than say Dellinger or Lao G

[sturdy steeple]

This is true, yeah. It's a good fight concept wise but it's not memorable outside of some highlights.

Jinbei vs WW is much more memorable lol

[sick dust]

Franky vs Senior pink made up for it with Senior pink’s backstory and Franky’s characterization

[restive lintel]

Most of Franky vs Senor is suplex

[alpine trench]

then its like 1 chapter of being serious and finishing the fight post flashback where franky is like "i like you dude"

[restive lintel]

Shit ton of them

[ashen perch]

Franky's factory sideplot lasts pretty long but the Senor Pink part is like only one chapter of focused fighting

[alpine trench]

the flashback is not that great bro

its a telenovela pastiche

[sick dust]

We didn’t get a backstory or explanation with Raizo vs fukurokuju

[rain cedar]

So you agree the only memorable thing you remember from the fight is the flashback?

[sick dust]

That was sided aside in a SBS

[alpine trench]

raizo vs fuku is not supposed to be a focused fight like franky vs senor pink though

so the comparison is moot

[sick dust]

Nah I remember the body slams

And the gropies

[rain cedar]

It was more of a gag fight then anything else

[sick dust]

And Franky’s closing line

[rain cedar]

Idk who took raizo vs fuku seriously

[alpine trench]

its not a gag fight, its a battle of endurance and will, both of them stood in flames for a while

[native seal]

dragon fans mind their business 99% of the time its people who say they arent dragon fans who are desparate for him to do something

[sick dust]

Of wanting a beer with Senior pink sometime

[rain cedar]

It's hardly a fight when it's a battle of attrition

[ashen perch]

Wait I forgot the finisher was just Franky Boxing, I thought it was a German suplex

That brings down the fight

[alpine trench]

raizo's ultimate win is because he held on to enduring that heat while fuku didnt

[sick dust]

Can you remember anything about Raizo’s fight outside of them seeing who can last longer in a fire?

[restive lintel]

We don't because we already have context about them don't we?
Raizo sided with Oden, Fuku was a Orochi loyalist

[sturdy steeple]

It's a fight that highlights Raizo's devotion to Oden despite him seeming like an unserious freak. Unlike Fuku who just dies like a coward.

[rain cedar]

Raizo vs fuku was Frankly speaking, not all that important

[sick dust]

Oda has done better with fight setups than that

[ashen perch]

They had a brief clash where Fukurokujo used his fire cracker earlobes to counter Raizos shuriken but that battle of attrition was literally the entire fight so you're not proving any point with this

[sick dust]

And went in depth before

[sturdy steeple]

I mean, this is the fight where the end part matters the most, lol. What's the point here

[alpine trench]

even if it isnt that important, it had a straight thematic throughline that integrated their characterization from earlier and paid off previously set up elements of the story

[ashen perch]

The setup was that they were rival Ninjas, and Raizo was the guy who was complaining about how hot it was above the Oden pot

[sturdy steeple]

The fight before they got to the burning part didn't take much so it's not a big problem, is it?

[rain cedar]

I think it's still unfair to compare it with franky vs senor pink. They're just not on the same level when it comes to the importance the author gave them

[ashen perch]

He proved his true mental strength by recreating a feat similar to Oden's, it was really cool actually

[sturdy steeple]

It's cool that in a sense you start looking at Raizo through other lenses. Like come on, this guy always seemed like a whiny freak but here he's literally burning himself to defeat his enemy.

[alpine trench]

this is the point of that battle, its raizo proving to fuku the importance of his loyalty to oden

[ashen perch]

He's so cool

[sick dust]

The former was more engaging with the characters present while being important while the other wasn’t and lacked the sense of urgency as Franky vs Senior pink.

[sturdy steeple]

You're not supposed to take it as one of the main fights of the arc. It's a character development highlight that doesn't take much of our time.

[sick dust]

Destroying the factory was as important as taking down Sugar

In that arc

[ashen perch]

It lacked the sense of urgency of the fight where Franky and Senor Pink were just mostly fucking around?

[rain cedar]

If you're really gonna compare fights between wano and dressrosa, you should pick a tobi roppo fight to make your argument

[ashen perch]

Lmao

[alpine trench]

raizo is one tough motherfucker

damn

[hasty sable]

Raizo was first to complain about the heat during the boiling

[rose rune]

I share my birthday with cone head

[alpine trench]

dude kept trucking on even after being burnt

[sturdy steeple]

You gotta pick someone who's not the main character first lol

[alpine trench]

my condolences thigh

[ashen perch]

Yupp

[sturdy steeple]

It's unfair to compare it to Franky's fight even though they were fucking around for most of the time.

[rose rune]

It's alright, I also share it with shalria and devon

All good people

[sick dust]

I already did with Who’s who.

[alpine trench]

"all we gotta do is stand here"

[rain cedar]

Unironically who's who had better choreography

[ashen perch]

It definitely did

[sturdy steeple]

Like Hajrudin vs the heavy guy has less sauce than Raizo vs Fuku simply because it doesn't really have a setup.

[ashen perch]

It was the better fight overall

[sick dust]

And the responser agreed the flashback was the only memorable thing about it

[alpine trench]

and yes, jinbei vs who's who is a more important and more fleshed out fight than senor pink vs franky, where both opponents were not actually martial artists with moves that could translate to choreographed moves that flow like butter

[prisma yacht]

Machivise

[sturdy steeple]

The majority here agrees that Jinbei vs WW is more memorable lol

[carmine dust]

who?

[sick dust]

With what? Raizo or Senior pink.

[rain cedar]

Senor pink vs franky

[alpine trench]

this shit is still funny to me

people were expecting a whole ass katana

[rain cedar]

On a Side note, I loved all of the tobi roppo designs

Not a single miss

[carmine dust]

men on the internet be like :

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-crab-petting-crabs-jacque-cousteau-cousteau-gif-3530356

[sturdy steeple]

Franky vs Pink consists of just two big dudes grabbing each other and throwing around. It is by no means a more memorable fight than Jinbei vs WW.

The flashback portion sure

But I can assure you most don't remember what happened in that fight outside of GAG highlights

[sturdy steeple]

Hilarious stuff

[sick dust]

I can’t tell you anything about Jinbei vs WW

Because it was in the middle of other condensed events

Rooftop was going on at the same time

And I believe oni virus as well

[alpine trench]

i remember, as do most other people here, more about what was going on with who's who and jinbei than with pink and franky before the fight

that's because oda gave us two chapters back to back of both of them conversing and actually fighting before it ended with the beatdown

[sick dust]

Senior pink vs franky is simple to figure out

[ashen perch]

a skill issue

[sick dust]

And know the mentality off

[alpine trench]

we got choreography like this in this fight

[sturdy steeple]

I've reread Dressrosa recently and I still remember Jinbei vs WW more vividly lol

[ashen perch]

I loved the teeth shigan

[prisma yacht]

Soon we gonna see big man jimbei back in action

against zaza

[sturdy steeple]

It's also hard to forget a fight where Jinbei breaks arms and then a face of a dude with racist remarks

lol

[alpine trench]

the multiple shigan with the sword knife as well was very cool

[sick dust]

I can tell you more about Robin vs Black Maria than WW for obvious reasons

[rain cedar]

Oni virus was resolved like 7 chapters before

[rose rune]

Getting thrown by the teeth looks painfull

[ashen perch]

Oh yeah I mean the Robin fight is one of the best ever

[prisma yacht]

Robin vs black maria is a very peak fight ofc you can tell more about it

[sick dust]

If anything I agure it’s the best non monster trio fight in the whole raid

[ashen perch]

Its like Oda woke up in Onigashima and said "yeah I gotta do this RIGHT", its my favorite in Onigashima outside of Kaido v Luffy and Sanji v Queen

[sturdy steeple]

I feel like it'd be more fair to say that you just don't like their fight instead of trying it to compare to other fights.

[carmine dust]

how can you say that when usopp vs smile eater #57 is there

[sick dust]

Why won’t I compare? OP is a battle manga as much as it is a adventure manga

[ashen perch]

But WW v Jinbe was really good too, I can remember pretty much every page of it honestly and I haven't read it in ages

[sick dust]

Fights are a part of the storytelling

[sturdy steeple]

Because your examples fall flat?

[rain cedar]

Raizo vs fuku and senor pink vs franky both dont compare well

[sturdy steeple]

Like yeah

[rain cedar]

Maybe you just don't like Wano which is fine

[prisma yacht]

Pink my goat

https://tenor.com/view/franky-cyborg-franky-senor-pink-franky-vs-senor-pink-franky-nipple-light-gif-14951286076054526086

[sick dust]

Yeah I don’t like Wano because of Onigashima

[sturdy steeple]

And I remember the reaction to Jinbei vs WW when it just came out

[prisma yacht]

What a fight man

[sturdy steeple]

Everyone was highly praising the fight

[carmine dust]

my inspiration for doing nipple light

[sturdy steeple]

That's fine. I agree here.

[rose rune]

I mean. I love the kizaru vs luffy fight, but it doesn't really compare well with much

Because they are fucking around so much

[sick dust]

Act 1 and 2 are fine for the most part and I enjoyed those greatly

[rain cedar]

Kizaru vs Luffy wasn't a head on fight either because Kizaru was more busy trying to catch vegapunk

[rose rune]

Exactly

[sick dust]

Onigashima takes up most of the arc which is why I am more critical of it

[sturdy steeple]

Uhhhh....

[rain cedar]

The good of onigashima outweighs the bad parts. People complain a shit ton about Oni virus but it really wasn't all that Bad

[sick dust]

I was worn out by the end of it

[rose rune]

The oni virus was pretty boring, and it had the issue of me not caring about any of the characters involved

[ashen perch]

Oni virus is great

[sick dust]

It was that bad in pacing

[rose rune]

Fuck you arsal

[rain cedar]

I love chopper so i loved Oni virusn

[ashen perch]

Same^^^

[rain cedar]

You remove Oni virus and then you'll have people complaining about how Chopper Is useless and doesn't do anything and-

[sturdy steeple]

That's true but also

[rose rune]

Yeah

[sturdy steeple]

Although no, I'll reserve my judgement.

[sick dust]

Perhaps but we’ll have less fluff to work with

[ashen perch]

I think it was just so long and a total non priority in the anime that people have a poorer memory of it. Manga is great

[sick dust]

And less fluff for Onigashima would be a good thing

[rain cedar]

If i could remove one thing though, I'd remove that flame slime sub plot

[sick dust]

Yeah definitely

Kanjuro should of stayed dead after the first interaction

[ashen perch]

There's things that could be removed but it would definitely not be Ice Oni

[rose rune]

Generally I think wano is a pretty middle of the road arc compared to others.

[sturdy steeple]

Wano is that arc that has the lowest of lows and highest of highs and it's hard to really come up with a fair rating

[sick dust]

I feel people overhype it too much because they only think of the pros

[sturdy steeple]

I disliked Onigashima in so many ways that it was really hard for me to like it

[rain cedar]

You hardly see people overhyping wano these days. If anything, I think it's one of the most criticized arcs

Which it deserves in some aspects

[rose rune]

It's hardly a bad arc. I can't really think of one arc I think is bad tho

It just is a bit too much of everything

[sturdy steeple]

But length has nothing to do with why I dislike Onigashima

[sick dust]

I disagree tbh. Wano is still fresh in people’s minds enough to spark discussion

[sturdy steeple]

It's kind of silly to even say that tbh

[sick dust]

It’s the content involved

[rain cedar]

Wano is like 1 arc away. I remember the ending as if it was yesterday

[ashen perch]

i dunno, I guess I'm just so fundamentally misaligned with the fandom on this but I genuinely think that the arc was hurt by faster pacing far far more often than slower

I am baffled at the take that it was too long, when there's like 16 things that should've been longer lol

[sick dust]

I enjoyed Dressrosa from beginning to end and people complain about that arc all the time. Most of them are anime exclusive issues

[rose rune]

Maybe if oda reduced some of the slower parts and added to the rushed parts, it would feel better

[ashen perch]

But there are really no slower parts imo

[sick dust]

Udon prison

I feel was slow

[ashen perch]

Well I'm thinking Onigashima specifically

[sick dust]

Though to me it makes up for it due to Luffy’s speech

[ashen perch]

Wano's pacing till the start of Onigashima is classic One Piece pacing