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Exactly
But
Half of that is setback
Teachs luck, as burgess says, is it always seems like he’s being hoed
You are just luck min maxing for 2 characters in order to make the result you want
its necessary to introduce some other motivation like revenge for wang zhi or altruism (lol) to explain caribou not just telling bb the truth
But then something comes thru even better
Revenge for wang zhi , done
if caribous only motivation is self interest, the play is obviously tell bb the truth
Cerberus with Omen would look sick
thats fine thats consistent. My point has always just been that self interest would dictate he tells teach the truth
Caribou escaping is the setback half @hasty sable something like the seraphim will come after as the come up
Not if he can escape
I don’t see why anybody would be adamant that’s off the table
It’s just a very very risky gamble because staying on egghead was worse
but like why would he and how could he without god picking him up
not only is escape risky, escape to whaT? To what other buyer of his info? What is the benefit he epxects to recieve that is so much greater than the benefit he can expect from bb to justify taking the risk of needing to escape
bb not only represents minimization of risk, but realization of greatest reward
What??? Just escape, why would he stay with them if he didn’t genuinely want to join them
That doesn't anwser his questions
for selfish rewards? hachinosu is dripping in wealth and pirates who are appreciating selfish rewards for allying with teach
If teach isn’t the one he’s looking for, why would he make it harder for his benefactee by also telling teach
THAT makes no sense
Well now you're taking about some motivation other than self interest
I can imagine Caribou having a crisis of conscience after Teach goes after Pluton or Poseidon and then joining the revos.
Nope actually I can still fit self interest into it
A slimeball like caribou always knows not to trust another slimeball
And there’s the wang zhi factor
Also you know
Would caribou care tho? He was down to sell shirahoshi and no one on wano cared about him
He’s a slimeball. Scumbags like caribou don’t need much incentive or reason to double cross you
Maybe, depends if the cover story comes up again
I guess
when youre talking about conscience and revnege your conflating in other motivations. Its possible other motivations could influence the decision yes. My premise is just that if his motivation is purely selfish gain, he should tell the truth
It could never come up again ans still be valuable because of all the guevara references
Caribou is a guevara and Dragon has a Cuban Revolution reference
He was a pretty good revolutionary for five minutes 
caribou was like nice to an old lady once
And I’m saying the fact that he’s a scumbag means regular reason already doesnt apply to him. The way he does what he does already shows he’s not a reasonable person who thinks things through
His true calling is communism
more revo feats than dragon
looking east intensifies
dragon has feats? 
he grabbed smoker's shoulder
fire
dragon deserves credit for the siege which is currently putting more pressure on the wg than anything
I’m willing to explain how that can still cohesively work for the sake of argument, mind you @thick mango but on a like, a level what’s open to happening in the manga and will still make sense? Caribou acting irrationally and petty by trying to cross teach is there
The world is awaiting our answer
BB about to ruin that somehow
It’s consistent with his character
1200 chapters later
the world is still awaiting our answer
On the CDs you mean, remember the WG isn’t their enemy
What do you think that means
I have an idea but idk how well it’ll be received
if we open the door to irrational action i think theres no point in speculating. He could decide to tell the truth or lie to teach based on whether he likes his shoes it could be literally anything
I don't make Dragon theories because I don't want to be disappointed but I hope he means the Ds
Nah I don’t think so, the parameters for speculating would be doing what I did. How does it organically fit his character and what has come in the story before?
i do think the WG is gonna contract BB to destroy the siege in exchange for recognition
Every aspect of this I argue, I’m attaching something from the manga to it
luck maxing and being scummy so he does things differently?
Oh
on this note i feel like blackbeard was half responsible in organizing it
making a problem he’ll help solve
yeah bb is playing both sides, making it worse to generate more demand for his own services
that would be peak
actually never mind i forgot shamrock already fixed it, this theory might be dead
thats part of why i dont think lie here. its a narrative dead end. Caribou knows about the ancient weapons, goes before bb, but lies so nothing comes of it. dead end
This would be cool but also lol if the WG fall for this again
we need more clone reveals
twin or clone
BB going after 2 ancient weapons would be peak
theyre pretty desperate lately. Oda keeps reminding us teh food sitation is getting worse and worse
So I think what Dragon says there ties into what he said about Luffy sailing as a pirate
“It takes a will such as yours”
I think what Dragon means is that there are people in all walks of life with a will befitting of a pirate
It clicked for me when Roger and rocks both said Garp would fit in with piracy
clone of a twin would be peak
weevil’s secret twin…
I think Dragon means rebellious spirits in general
ideal fake out potential
But also, I think there’s navy that work with dragon
surely the rain god user will use rain here right?
Just wind
I’d go so far as to say I think Kuzan, Garp, Dragon and Shanks consistently collude and share information
Tbh
hm
garp and dragon dont seem like theyre on good terms
nor do kuzan and garp
shuron wtf
a lot of them don’t seem on great terms
It’s so crazy to me that Gaban said Garp told him about Ace
Same thing with Garp saying dragon told him he saw Luffy off
Garp hates shanks 😭
“You niggas are TALKING?”
kuzan also has probably only even seen shanks during marineford
I feel like garp and dragon could be friends but they just never saw eye to eye
I think Oda breezing past both was intentional
I don’t think Garp necessarily fucks with Shanks like that
who else is a part of the illuminati
But Garp recognized in me valley, Theres pirates he might have to work with against greater evils
wait this is peak now
maybe they're sharing info with imu as well
YO THE One piece Illuminati
Peak group refrence
peter is colluding with them
I think Dragon either hearing about Roger’s red haired kid
Or seeing Shanks’ poste
Poster8
I’m in the group chat. Can confirm
Would drive him to contact shanks
Dragon was torn up about thinking he failed those babies
you got added on accident
It radicalized his resolve a lot
Garp and Kuzan, obvious
Garp and Dragon too
I think that’s the connective tissue for how Garp and Shanks collude
Maybe Sengoku
I’m firm Sengoku created sword
Yeah actually yeah
Sengoku too
“Because it’s you” had nothing to do with CD blood
Yeah Shaka too
only a secret 6th member
I’m sure Shaka put Dragon in the Pacifista program because PX-0 responded to him
Like it does CDs
6
Viz left it out but Kuma says “yes master”
And we know he works with the same command program
lmao Brook
Shaka and Dragon were talking, it makes sense
Can also confirm Bb and Luffy are also in a group chat together. Luffy just says he hates him to confuse the audience
@civic dust Sengoku creating sword fits the anti-CD agenda
I don’t see what’s so crazy bout these figures working together to undermine the Great One as much as they can
it’s a bit hard to buy it for exactly that reason
okay six illumination members; Kureha, Neptune, Spandine, Dragon, X Drake, Shaka
Garp and Shanks have info they can fit together like puzzles
Think about it
Shanks knows theres a great one in Marijoa
their individual characters overrule any logic involved
Garp knows they have some powerful black monster
I don’t see it as crazy that shanks and Garp put those pieces together
Yeah they normally wouldn’t collaborate. Maybe not even stand each other
we still dunno what imus weird salamander form was yeah i hadnt thought about that
spandine is still alive theory
wait isn't he?
i thought he died
no
“What a strange group. Doesnt seem like there would be many common motivations among them”
I’m paraphrasing but that’s pretty much it
Minions, illumination, minions, bello, banana
Garp still hates him lol. People also just don’t meet each other easily. Dragon doesn’t want to be found in the first place. Kuzan left to find a way he can make a change his own way since garps way failed for the 10th time. And shanks seems to stick with his family the Roger pirates and his crew
no he's just sick
They can send messages dude
CCHOPPER CURES SPANDINE ❤️
But Garp also says he spoke to dragon
Garp and Gaban spoke ans Gaban is very much not in jail
oh wow he’s actually alive
i wonder what his thoughts on everything are
also wtf i thought cp9 foiled spandine, not that spandine helped them???
thats crazy
I think, for this black monster, Garp is willing to put it to the side
That’s was a mistranslation. He just says he heard Dragon and Luffy met
The CDs gotta go
Nopers
cp9 spin off PLEASE
how is this real
Stephen Paul has a blog of his translations of old stuff before he got the job
i think spandine is probably a good guy actually
character arc
official op blog!
He’s not infallible but others have translated it that way too
Garps whole ideal is for the next generation to fix the problem. He doesn’t belief he and his current gen can do anything
I don’t think that’s true
I don’t see Garp as passive and complacent
Garp is about preparing the next generation
im a pretty fervent garp defender
Have you ever noticed that Garp is a dive tank
Bruh just reread the honesty impact scene
No
we haven’t exactly seen garp active
the only thing we’ve really seen him do is fuck around or train new gen
well if he was a part of founding sword thats pretty big
i still can’t really wrap my head around sword
why does the WG let them exist, they don’t offer anything they don’t already have
that would probably hurt
maybe its not explictly reported to the wg
that happened to jarul
it feels like they only exist to have an explicitly good side of the marines/wg
it’s a hard trick to master
On Hachinosu and Me Valley, Garp jumps ahead to fight the big guns because he knows that while he does that, his people can do important stuff like save civilians. He does what he knows he can do and they can’t
This fighting style sums up the role he plays. He’s not standing side doing nothing. His role as mentor is the same, which is why he stays in the Navy. He’s pushing back against the CD BS by strengthening his students’ morals and capabilities
He’s very much in the fight, garp is just a team player that supports his team with meathead shit and strong morals so they can do the important stuff for the people
And training them
That’s why I don’t see it as far fetched for him to be in that Illuminati role like Yall called it
That’s how he helps support the fight against the CDs
Dragon runs a force that saves people the can’t or won’t get to
Idk what the hell Kuzan is doing
But shank stole nika from them
Like I said, I’m sure they all hate the CDs more than each other
Kuzan probably supports Blackbeards potential to eradicate them
He probably knows about his pops
GALAXY UPPERCUT
Dive tank with 200% knock back on attacks
h*z*rd overwatch 😔
Did over watch invent that term
Fuck wrong chat
Nvm me, fine gents, ladies and classy non-binaries here present, by all means carry on the convo

do folks think imu will get vivi and luffy will have to got to mariejoa to rescue her
i think she would be a good ideological match but i dont really see her path there
Well, either she gets kidnapped by knights, gets rescued by revos, or stumbles and bumbles with wapol and morgans until she gets to the SHs
Son 3 years ago????
I’m waiting for Oda to retract it
Someone on manga just said they would never go to #anime again. We did memed about the anime chat being the super weenie's Jr but I couldn't find it, so I picked one result at random lmao
Guess I'll just remake the meme again on Photoshop, then
Loki is a good boy who did nothing wrong
Loki allowing himself to be vulnerable for the first time in his life and she's just not into him
He spiraled after that
Forgot to vote this morning
💀
I haven't gotten a gold in forever
I'm gonna be sick
Mihawk was never strong
He just got free upgrades from his dad
Not as bad as these
Morj is just bottom of the barrel
Yes we should stop talking about him 
They all are. Tekking been doin 40 min videos per DF 😭
Tekking is just an odd guy
Kata has such aura there
Ik we have lurking tubers here
They steal our theories
They steal and profit off our theories.
did you missclick
No, they vote wrong on purpose
?
One of the best aura moments in the series I'm afraid
i think meek disavowed morj
no way
Are we in a good timeline?
I'll agree
I have never made a single misclick in my entire existence(s).
i missclick a lot on games with teamkill
son
Boya
Ragnir is my favorite elbaf character
Ragnir for Strawhat, I will die on this hill regarding this, gimme
If loki gets got in any way usopp is a lock for ragnir
Cmon ppl vote for the Goat and take zoroards back to their caves
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I never figured out if these guys commissioned artists for their thumbnail or used AI
Regardless they look absolutely ass
He kinda looks like an evil sanji
zoro being at the top in all regions is kinda sus.
so I'm not worried
grandline doesn't use ai. he has had the shitty thumbnails for too long
It's so that you can spot his slop content right away 
chapter kinda late this week
No choptir
WHAT
One piece ended srry
its commissioned which is the one good thing they do
Whose to say the commissioned don’t use ai
comissioning ai to do their work 
i didnt realise you were wrong in the future
Npc ahh vote
Based user spotted
In times of drought, also-manga is reduced to gifs
are you mean to me too?
I didn't pick this name, @sharp nova changed it because I was being nice
chapter today for sure
Feeso said meek ate the chapter
Oda slacking
wow
It's not like people read T*B round here anyway 
oh yeah who reads that slop


this is like the 5th time meek broke up with morj
he always comes back
such a toxic relationship
I wonder where every strawhat will go to when they finally accomplish their dream
I think theyll stay on the One Piece, personally
I imagine it’s a ship or vessel of immense scale
to find two piece
one piece two piece red piece blue piece
piece deez nuts
My tummy hurts
Same tbh
Try pooping
the greatest high school band oat
Nika get some variety
Imu and Zaza with a whole ass orchestra over here and bro is just don dut dodo-ing
Yeah like bro you’re the god of the sun and laughter do something spontaneous
whats the original source of this? lol
Beauty lies in simplicity or smth

It was some show i think
Japanese television
Someone linked and we all went nuts
I love a good villain
Damn they picked a fire pic for Sakazuki
I love how he still wears the basic Marine cap after all this time
Was he wearing one as a kid
Nah it just says Justice
A hood, I remember that for sure
Oh yeah he was wearing a hat
It seems to be a symbol of his Navy-rooted dogmatism
Oh yeah I meant that as a hat too, good correction
That is from Chapter 0 right?
I think so yeah
Akainu is bald
He’s calling Ace a bitch here
And Whitebeard
Ace said “say it to my face” then Akainu killed him LMAO
They will still be together at the end of the series imo
Akainu is fuckin tuff man he doesn’t get enough credit
Straw Hats will sail together for decades
Wrong
It took him so long to come up from the ravine cause he had to lug his two giant brass balls up with him
The adventure never ends and it will be a new world in the end to explore anyway
There’s no way Akainu doesnt have Hao
Akainu was a slick villain in Marineford. The Squard thing too.
I mean they've the other blues don't they
That was Sengokus plan, can’t give him credit for that tbh
If you're done with the Grand line, go adventuring in west blue or smth
He played the role IG but Whitebeard clocked Sengoku put him up to it
I did too until I reread a couple years ago
I really hope we get to see the mentoring Sengoku and Tsuru gave Kizaru and Akainu
What the hell did Tsuru teach that man
LMFAO
hes trying to be relatable to the young marines
a true inspiration
smash
akainu will appear in the next yakuza game
Do people remember kurouma
internet does remember
🫡
I forgot he has red hair
Garling's 4th son
whose the 3rd
They call him fronsen
debatable
No he is, I was the doula
@ashen perch Mihawk has an attack in the games called 16 Night Moon which is pretty much synonyms for Imus name
Ohohohoy
I know you like the references to 16 ans nighttime with Imus name
Fuck
Yeah I pointed it out before smh
Nerona Mihawk
Yeah I just found that out too
I missed it
Where are you exactly with Mihawk Imu
Since when were video games valid sources 
Shanks and Mihawks rivalry started when Shanks was in Mariejois
Mihawk was sent after Shanks when he betrayed them
So glue
I think Mihawk is certainly a Nerona atleast, but I'm a lot more iffy on him being directly the son of Imu
They kissed
They were both blades of god in training
But it didn’t mean anything according to Shanks
He was a Figarland boy he was a Nerona boy
Then they fought and Shanks convinced him to be a cop killer instead
Story of a flipflop boy and the gothic
The name romance dawn was actually based on their story
It was over when Shanks true to get him to play hacky sack
Its mainly really because I think that's reserved for Nami lol, but I guess nothing's stopping them both from being his direct children.
If it does happen though, I think the first fight of the series, Helmeppo and Morgan v Luffy and Zoro was basically a big hint to the very final fight of the series.
Morgan is referred to as "Great Morgan" and "Great One" the same way Imu is, and he basically "fights" against Zoro and Luffy alongside his son Helmeppo
Basically, it'd mean that the final fight of the series is Luffy and Zoro v Imu and Mihawk
Preach
It's hard to say why exactly Mihawk would agree to go back to Imu if he really was betrayed though, I'm trying to figure that part out
We just solved that mystery tho
Maybe that Navy/WG split could help if Mihawk's issues were only with the Navy
i don't think Imu will have any direct offspring
Also yeah I agree that there's that additional layer to the relationship between Mihawk and Shanks, its the descendant of Imu and the descendant of Joyboy
One friendship fell apart, but Mihawk's and Shanks's has endured for now atleast
A dynamic with centuries of layers to it, Oda loves that sort of thing
mihawk fans are that desparate huh
Tellem again
Biblo saved the books from Ohara because they are evil
"These books got some crazy shit"
Some ancient yuri
"One of them even has smut. U think i'd let imu burn that shit?"
Yes
is this mario titans
Biblu is an innocent pookie owl
i need a Wario and Waluigi rpg yasterday
nintendo needs to stop just using them in spin offs
i am so tired of it
why don't they embrace Waluigi and Wario in the mainline games
outside of just some silly costumes
Waluigi is literally the best character out of the Super Mario universe
An RPG?
He deserves better
Deadass?
yes, a roleplaying game
I didn’t know they made Mario RPGs
On folk
there's Mario & Luigi as well as Paper Mario
both very good rpg games if you ask me
The people behind jet set radio future and panser dragoon saga went on to make classics such as mario and sonic at the olympics
Oh wow I never knew those were RPGs
I cry every time
The first two paper mario games are actually really good
Tho my nostalgia forces me into saying paper mario 64 is the better of the two
the remake of Paper Mario A Thousand Year Door is absolutely peak
outside of just being 30 fps it's a really nice update to the og on the gamecube
I read this as you wanted to roleplay as wario and waluigi online
My bad
Wendigo fruit 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Wallahi
mario fruit
Truer
oh shit new day new theory
Hyped about this
Is it Robin killed all those people time
🙏
😓 uh dw abt it
oh...ok
confidential
You need to play Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario
Especially Paper Mario the 1000 year door
This will improve your One Piece theories
Yc is something wrong in manga theories or is my discord glitching
What classified information does this dawg have
some dude named heisenberg just sent a whole lot of nothing
also did the server become dry after no spoilers
This was Heisenbergs work
I dont know I just typed Im Evil in the gif bar
it became dry when those users left/ got banned
omen causes mpreg btw
genuinely got no clue who u are talking about
i didnt use discord for like 3 weeks
theres evidence in the manga for this
This explains Pregbeard
no worries im being intentionally vague only i know who im referencing
You couldnt be talking about ... THAT guy...!!
THAT MAN
ISNT THAT RIGHT?!
THAT MAN!!!
in a BREATHTAKING DOUBLE SPREAD
pubert
WOAH
🕊️
I’m sold
"LUFFY PUNCHES A HOLE THROUGH IMU"
im so glad I am freed from the tyranny of redon and worstgen
are they really gone
they dropped the manga
ball
This yall final villain group
We really surprised 2 giants are physically very strong?
Cause he hit him from the head
This would go crazy in sabaody
Stronger than the physically strong gorosei?
They knocked him over he was fine
Sure why not
Zero damage done
These are legendary giant warriors
Is that why he said ugh
We ugh scaling now?
That got embarrassed by Zoro while in domi reversi
Its just a deflection, you don't have to be physically stronger to do that
Even if they was physically stronger in that situation, its two of them
Throwing a bull charging at you isn’t a overpowering feat?
Whos final villain group is thisss 😭
Marin coming in with the anime only
What i posted that unprompted
Who is your final villain group?
Uh huh
Bb duh
Surprised the Akainu pfp didn't say Akainu final villain
God, jupeters color scheme is ugly as hell
Chill on him hes got the second coolest zoan
You really don't wanna do this if you're a BB fan then 😭
They're professional jobbers
They’re rookies come to me when they’re in their prime
Man that image is so funny
Lmao
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2054919050799546455 usopp upgrade
Gorosei are Dorry and Brogy level
i mean usopp can basically already do this
Why people always ignore their regen
He's joking
Because regen kinda sucks
But if you just talk about fighting skills, most of them seem like theyre not great at it except gandhi
I unironically do think Dorry and Broggy are stronger than the Gorosei
At least stronger than most of them
I also think Dorry and Broggy are stronger without the domi reversi
I know broggy stated he felt stronger but I dont take Oda as a canon source
I dont think raw strength like whether or not you can ring the bell on the carnival game is the end-all metric when it comes to fighting capability
You're so real for this
Regen is just a terrible power
In just raw strength?
even if a gorosei had to fight someone 100x stronger than them they still win due to regen
Its the only thing about the knights i dont like
Yes
I can see a world where their raw strength is better than the elders yea
Oda was not cooking when he came up with it
I think regen exists cuz oda wanted to make them immortaln
But even immortal foes kinda suck
Just get the heart
It sucks but still needs to be considered as an ability
Thats why in most fiction u either get the anti-immortal ability
Or sealing magic
But this is one piece so sealing aint happening
They probably have more raw strength, but they lose their reasoning/skills as fighters by a lot so they just end up kinda weaker
Its more of a disadvantage than an advantage
Imagine spending all your perk points into regen
Why would it be a disadvantage
When u could have spent them in getting higher stats
Or a new super attack
Where's hellfire hakoku

They spent all of egghead getting their ass beat and barely fighting back
Also sanji was able to defeat killingham without conquerors by exploiting his regeneration
Because Oda is a HACK
I think the worst thing about regen is how flimsy they all become when they get it
like they're made of paper
Thats a disadvantage but is nothing compared to benefits. Also gorosei are weak, immortality is their true strength
I think its cuz they can actually show damage
Look at piccolo from dragon ball
Dood loses his limbs just to regen it
kid pirates vs dorry and broggy 🙏
Everyone else? Eh either hurt/broke
Its still dumb
Regen is a bad power for them it doesnt fit their characterization
I think it’s mainly a ego thing with the gorosei
They should have like an invisible barrier
thats what im sayin
How would that work
If they see themselves as gods they shouldnt let themselves get cut up and smashed 24/7
but they never actually defeated the gorosei
They don’t even feel the need to move
Luffy punches a non-regen super hard"
"Ow it hurt u might have broke something I took a gazillion dps but I look ok"
Luffy does the sane to regen
"U literally obliterated half of my body"
they kept regenerating
It’s the same thing
Regen is bad because it's honestly lame. I think it takes away from the villains if they have this inherent hax ability
emeth literally carried the strawhats in egghead 🙏
literally 
Think of like light screen in pokemon
Weakens the damage taken
disagree since it fits the goroseis demonic powers
Demon slayer had its demons possess extremely high levels of regeneration
yeah it makes them feel inevitable
Tho their vibe is different
I think the idea of anything u do I can regen fits
Theirs is more "we literally can just tire u out ngl"
can't wait for Luffy to blow Imu's body to bits
so if he punches Shanks later and he's fine we can assume that Shank's body is tougher than Imu right 
Imu has like 30 million powers anyways
He should give them something that doesnt make them look like losers
The one thing I will say is that this happens with logias too, but at least with logias it actually makes sense
I think regen would be fine if Oda didn't instantly turn them into punching bags the moment we know they have regen
I think part of it is the regen is just a crutch and one piece kinda treats it as "that would have totalllllly killed me....if I didnt have regen woo thx u imu sama"
Its a cheat code for weak character like the gorosei to live till the end
Nusjuro doesn’t let himself get hit 
oda thinks there is no other way to show regen
It may just be character differences
Unironically demon slayer kinda does regen better cuz its incorporated into the demons fighting style
They're extremely volatile and reckless and willingly take attacks cuz its not a death blow
if a character isn't blown to atoms whats even the point of regen
But they were about to end the strawhats before emeth showed up 🙏
Yes
He didn’t let himself get hit there
This is why I say its a disadvantage not an advantage
Doesnt matter
Its probably a matter of bad fight writing
I’m saying he sees an attack coming and stands still
If I know i have regen and im a demon
They didnt feel like a real threat at all
Im fighting like an insane crashout
yeah like they would be too menacing if they utilized their regen like this... it would be peak
Oh my fault he js got speedblitzed
Im gonna be doing the most destructive shit
Knowing I cant be stopped
Sorta
W vote W vote
I thought they were very threatening, lowk thought some strawhat would die before emeth showed up
Killer Ham and Sommers should be literally bum rushing their foes cuz they know they cant be stopped
Instead they fight super careful
And treat each blow as AAAAAAA I TOOK 100 TRILLION DAMAGE
Sommers is low-key dumb
But Sommers still seems to be a decent enough fighter
Yes this exactly
Killingham idk
We’re all excited for Warcury vs Morley
He's alright. Could hold off his own against Gaban
She was the only one who used regen effectively
A washed Gaban but still
Ye but he’s also pretty good with his df
Literally about to win the entire arc before joyboys haki from centuries ago conveniently saved the strawhats and giants 🙏
I'll give Sommers some credit, his opponents haven't been all small fry
Got out smarted by Robin
Like realistically you're FINE. Ok sure maybe your pain receptors are still alive but you're fine
They should be fighting like how in demon slayer, you can literally cut off entire limbs and in a second or 2 its right back and the demon is still doing crazy attacks
Then surprised by Gaban
5 dorry broggy level fighters with regen really is scary
How does one use regen more effectively than another when its just a passive thing 
who wouldn't
Yeah, I'm not blaming that on him
Change your fighting style
U can fight extremely volatile and reckless
Huge explosive destructive attacks
Thats what they all do
Yes but they need to abandon all sense of self preservation
I think it’s ok to use regen but maybe reliance on it could dull them still
Killys strategy is exactly that lmao. He just wasn't great in a 1v1
Oda really wanted to glaze aCoC as much as possible so now we are stuck with Regen lmao
Haki is the root of all evil
It unironically is
Everything points to the steel hearts rn
The steel heart thing feels so out of nowhere
They're arrogant & complacent because of the regen for sure but i wouldn't say any HK uses regen more effectively than others, at least not so far... if we see like Shamrock throwing himself on like idk Shiryu's sword to reach him easily & cut him down then sure i'd say he used the regen more effectively than others so far
I'm still not sure all of them are supposed to have them
If Luffy knew the weaknes he’d have cleared them one by obe
Did Killy have the steel heart
I’m not either but
He didn't right
There must be something
Not my final villain group tho
We only saw for Sommers
i’m hoping it’s sommers only
I thought it was just a one off thing for Sommers
That would make more sense
Zoro’s dialogue refers to them as a group but he has only seen it from Sommers. Still, that may be Oda indicating to us that they all do
Idt its just Sommers tbh
We will see
also remember that gunko had her top half blown off and she was fine

where her heart would usually be
The heart coulda flew off
The gorosei also got completely blown to bits
everything got destroyed except the heart
harald also didn’t really get a new heart to our knowledge
he just went through a ritual
Well they got reverted to their normal "human" form
I think the idea is the ritual does that
If all of them have them Oda just made this shit up recently
that’s very silly but i wouldn’t doubt it honestly
Notice how harald got sliced up by shanks and gaban after getting regen
Harald wasn’t informed on his powers at all tbh
evil demon magic that turns your heart into a robot
Regen doesnt make you feel stronger its just makes you feel weaker
He just got told a basic amount
So like in terms of shifting the heart or whatever I don’t think hed know any of that stuff
His heart was in normal position
Idt the contracts instantly did the steel heart shit as part of it all, i think this was something done after the fact for extra layers of security
Perhaps a HK with regen, can be killed if you destroy the heart & has happened before so Imu discovered whatever it is that gave Sommers the steel heart as a fail safe
We all know they have metal hearts anyway
Imu summoned a gun out of a pentagram
Most of the stuff has been pretty unbelievable if you ask me
idk somehow turning someone’s heart mechanical is more unbelievable to me
Imu wraps Omen around their hearts
i’d be more willing to believe each knight has their own weak point
and for sommers it’s his mechanical heart
Ye ig that works too
Js wait till the revs hack imu and the goroseis heart
Idt everyone has steel hearts either but it wouldn't be too outlandish with all the stuff imu does
i dont dislike regen as much as some people seem to but i do still prefer bb
when did fraudffy get turned into a horse
this is bad for horses
oh thats killingam
nvm
Regen is fun just because Oda gets to be pretty brutal with his attacks (Gunko's upper body being blown up)
im in favor of anything that supports rule of cool
idgaf about combat being balanced or believable
The last time he was brutal....two characters died. I think marineford was the bloodiest arc
cyborgmu
This vs black pacman flames
what are pacman flames
Imu powers
this is so hard
Maybe the hks are all based on that
Zoro cutting Sommers heart and killing him
sommers the tin man
oh wait wasn’t the thing with the tin man that he couldn’t feel love or something
See??
He didn’t have a heart
same thing
Theres some connections
goda
Which one is the cowardly Lion?
The Tin Woodsman didn’t have thorns though 
not really cowardice related though
that's such a good example of "making connections just to make connections"
but i guess he’s adjacent
Yes lol
many such cases
Ehh i wouldn't say fearing something = being a coward
is there any possible way to connect the scarecrow
@slim sigil #promote-yourself
They’re all cowards according to Usopp
Gunko is dorothy because she had those boots once(?)
Gunko doesn’t have a brain. I.e. she doesn’t have a mind of her own.
Oh yeah thats better
shamrock is dorothy
Because he is red
yep
nice
we solved it
Oda sorry to spoil it
Shamrock clicks his heels and returns home
omen causes mpreg
imu is the wizard somehow
And Cerberus is his Todo
Granting "wishes" but its all lies in reality
Has oda ever referenced wizard of oz?
It feels like a nice story to base stuff off
probably well regarded
There was the Emerald City mentioned
wasn't there an anime adaptation too
im reading invincible and someone is doing the nika dance
oh yeah
i tried to think of a way to turn robert’s name into a goda-like but i got nothing
are you sure
robin not doing the dance is foreshadowing that shes the traitor
!!
check western series
On to something there Dolf
"look at these fools" - devil child robin being possessed by her father imu
She was playing the long haul
nerona robin wins again
Kaizoku ou ni ore wa naru
nerona paulie>
Crazy how chopper lowkey has the wendigo fruit which is lowkey a myth from the abyss like Niddhog
theres evidence for this
HOLY FUCK
Who
I wish the hearts were at nipple height
Oda fell off
I want to adopt Oda just so that I can disown him
woah
Loki and Luffy 2v1 or Loki gets clapped and Imu's 1v1s Luffy
How many traitors are there?
How many ugly characters are in Elbaph?
Just R*cks
penny do you think kid can beat loki
No
Wow…
Is Ragnir metal
Like metal that actually can be pulled to magnets
If it is then...
😭🙏
It can just turn into a squirrel
then Kidd gets low diffed instead of neg diffed
No*
Rain god will beat Imu
Rain god betrays imu and make him wet
Luffy throws a lightning bolt and calls it Dawn Bolt
Loki shoots lightning breath
Imu explodes
The end
The anime added dialogue that supports it though
Thats the anime
They know more than us
They added a parallel dialogue cause Imus gonna end up getting sent back by a lightning attack
So the morj theory
it didnt add anything lol
Garp's line with the added context of fandom convos is so funny man
"You can't even cook prime ribs, let alone Prime Me!"
Viz just translated it differently there because its the same word, but yeah, its right out of the manga. Yet another of the Legoland connections with the arc.
Oh so it was by Oda
yea
This has reaction pic potential, would just need some editing to cut out the line next to it
That makes the morj theory WAYYY more likely
People who keep saying imu is earth god, but do we even know if the planet in op verse is called earth?
Hello
🙂↔️
@urban lodge
🙂↔️
Pee shld be in capital
NO
Penny
Nuh uh
Morj did NOT invent that theory dawg
This is bad enough
Ur breaking the rules
I was saying that a full year before Morj
pennyroyalPEE
They could call it Planet...actually what would they call this planet
Was the deal

God? Devil? What’s the difference?
My name has always been lowercase and it will always be lowercase
All i care about is Loki getting his revenge this arc anyway
and I am not even the only one...
Not during a bet.
That was a really good exchange of words
Duality of Nika as both savior and destroyer set up
Saying what?
You will pay for this
Ik you were oda!
Hehehhhehehehe
Mini arc at the start reflects the big arc
@pulsar path @prisma idol @hasty sable @distant vine check out pennys name
What bet did you lose penny
Heh
that Legoland is meant to foreshadow elements of Elbaf
So imu parallels this
Muhahahahhahahaa
Yeah no I dont see this happening to imu
Usopp fighting another giant cat
I think Morj's interpretation is just wrong to be clear
Imu is likely forced to leave due to the Time limit
Did you win a bet? Lol
We got the setup w Loki having flashbacks to his dad
It happens
He'll be fine
Everyone escapes from legoland while its destroyed right?
What did Morj say
I did 😎
Fron and I voted Gunko a few times and if no one got a gold he could change my name and if someone did I'd change his

