#also-manga

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hasty sable
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Even when things don't go according to plan they have a way of working out in his favor in the end anyway. It's one of the main reasons his crew stick around him. He's favored by fate.

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But

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Half of that is setback

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Teachs luck, as burgess says, is it always seems like he’s being hoed

dapper tree
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You are just luck min maxing for 2 characters in order to make the result you want

thick mango
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its necessary to introduce some other motivation like revenge for wang zhi or altruism (lol) to explain caribou not just telling bb the truth

grand flower
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But then something comes thru even better

thick mango
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if caribous only motivation is self interest, the play is obviously tell bb the truth

unkempt dagger
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Cerberus with Omen would look sick

thick mango
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thats fine thats consistent. My point has always just been that self interest would dictate he tells teach the truth

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grand flower
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I don’t see why anybody would be adamant that’s off the table

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It’s just a very very risky gamble because staying on egghead was worse

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but like why would he and how could he without god picking him up

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Teach is an oaf

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He fucks up a LOT

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This can be one of them

thick mango
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not only is escape risky, escape to whaT? To what other buyer of his info? What is the benefit he epxects to recieve that is so much greater than the benefit he can expect from bb to justify taking the risk of needing to escape

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bb not only represents minimization of risk, but realization of greatest reward

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dapper tree
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That doesn't anwser his questions

thick mango
grand flower
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If teach isn’t the one he’s looking for, why would he make it harder for his benefactee by also telling teach

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THAT makes no sense

thick mango
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Well now you're taking about some motivation other than self interest

hasty sable
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I can imagine Caribou having a crisis of conscience after Teach goes after Pluton or Poseidon and then joining the revos.

grand flower
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A slimeball like caribou always knows not to trust another slimeball

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And there’s the wang zhi factor

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Also you know

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grand flower
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He’s a slimeball. Scumbags like caribou don’t need much incentive or reason to double cross you

hasty sable
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Maybe, depends if the cover story comes up again

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I guess

thick mango
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when youre talking about conscience and revnege your conflating in other motivations. Its possible other motivations could influence the decision yes. My premise is just that if his motivation is purely selfish gain, he should tell the truth

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hasty sable
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Caribou is a guevara and Dragon has a Cuban Revolution reference

dapper tree
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but like that was just a different character

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that caribou got confused for

hasty sable
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He was a pretty good revolutionary for five minutes pogPause

dapper tree
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caribou was like nice to an old lady once

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hasty sable
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His true calling is communism

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looking east intensifies

remote maple
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dragon has feats? hunterthinking

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fire

thick mango
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dragon deserves credit for the siege which is currently putting more pressure on the wg than anything

grand flower
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I’m willing to explain how that can still cohesively work for the sake of argument, mind you @thick mango but on a like, a level what’s open to happening in the manga and will still make sense? Caribou acting irrationally and petty by trying to cross teach is there

hasty sable
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The world is awaiting our answer

grand flower
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It’s consistent with his character

hasty sable
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1200 chapters later
the world is still awaiting our answer

hazy turret
grand flower
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I have an idea but idk how well it’ll be received

thick mango
hasty sable
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I don't make Dragon theories because I don't want to be disappointed but I hope he means the Ds

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thick mango
grand flower
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Every aspect of this I argue, I’m attaching something from the manga to it

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grand flower
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Oh

trim lily
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making a problem he’ll help solve

grand flower
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How does it progress the story as well QBz

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If that happens, what can come of it?

thick mango
trim lily
thick mango
hasty sable
formal wagon
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we need more clone reveals

trim lily
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twin or clone

dapper tree
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BB going after 2 ancient weapons would be peak

thick mango
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trim lily
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weevil’s secret twin…

grand flower
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I think Dragon means rebellious spirits in general

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ideal fake out potential

grand flower
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But also, I think there’s navy that work with dragon

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arsal pin that

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I’d go so far as to say I think Kuzan, Garp, Dragon and Shanks consistently collude and share information

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Tbh

hasty sable
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hm

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garp and dragon dont seem like theyre on good terms

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nor do kuzan and garp

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shuron wtf

trim lily
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a lot of them don’t seem on great terms

grand flower
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It’s so crazy to me that Gaban said Garp told him about Ace

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Same thing with Garp saying dragon told him he saw Luffy off

grand flower
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“You niggas are TALKING?”

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kuzan also has probably only even seen shanks during marineford

grand flower
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Was my reaction both times

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Like theyre just having convos?

remote maple
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I feel like garp and dragon could be friends but they just never saw eye to eye

grand flower
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I think Oda breezing past both was intentional

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who else is a part of the illuminati

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But Garp recognized in me valley, Theres pirates he might have to work with against greater evils

trim lily
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maybe they're sharing info with imu as well

dapper tree
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Peak group refrence

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peter is colluding with them

grand flower
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I think Dragon either hearing about Roger’s red haired kid

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Or seeing Shanks’ poste

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Poster8

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grand flower
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Would drive him to contact shanks

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Dragon was torn up about thinking he failed those babies

dapper tree
grand flower
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It radicalized his resolve a lot

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Garp and Kuzan, obvious

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Garp and Dragon too

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I think that’s the connective tissue for how Garp and Shanks collude

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Maybe Sengoku

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I’m firm Sengoku created sword

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Yeah actually yeah

grand flower
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Sengoku too

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OP illuminati: dragon, shaka(only him),croc , dalton, garp

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can there only be 5?

grand flower
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“Because it’s you” had nothing to do with CD blood

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trim lily
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wait actually maybe sengoku instead of garp

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maybe

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I’m sure Shaka put Dragon in the Pacifista program because PX-0 responded to him

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Like it does CDs

hasty sable
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grand flower
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Viz left it out but Kuma says “yes master”

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And we know he works with the same command program

dapper tree
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Shaka and Dragon were talking, it makes sense

civic dust
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Can also confirm Bb and Luffy are also in a group chat together. Luffy just says he hates him to confuse the audience

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@civic dust Sengoku creating sword fits the anti-CD agenda

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I don’t see what’s so crazy bout these figures working together to undermine the Great One as much as they can

trim lily
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it’s a bit hard to buy it for exactly that reason

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okay six illumination members; Kureha, Neptune, Spandine, Dragon, X Drake, Shaka

grand flower
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Garp and Shanks have info they can fit together like puzzles

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Shanks knows theres a great one in Marijoa

trim lily
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their individual characters overrule any logic involved

grand flower
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Garp knows they have some powerful black monster

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I don’t see it as crazy that shanks and Garp put those pieces together

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formal wagon
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we still dunno what imus weird salamander form was yeah i hadnt thought about that

trim lily
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wait isn't he?

trim lily
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i thought he died

grand flower
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Do you remember what Garp said when he saw luffys group in marineford?

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@trim lily

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no

hasty sable
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# trim lily no

“What a strange group. Doesnt seem like there would be many common motivations among them”

I’m paraphrasing but that’s pretty much it

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civic dust
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I think they hate the CDs more than they hate each other

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It’s worth it

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CCHOPPER CURES SPANDINE ❤️

grand flower
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But Garp also says he spoke to dragon

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Garp and Gaban spoke ans Gaban is very much not in jail

trim lily
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i wonder what his thoughts on everything are

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also wtf i thought cp9 foiled spandine, not that spandine helped them???

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thats crazy

grand flower
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I think, for this black monster, Garp is willing to put it to the side

civic dust
grand flower
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The CDs gotta go

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cp9 spin off PLEASE

grand flower
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Stephen Paul has a blog of his translations of old stuff before he got the job

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trim lily
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character arc

grand flower
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He’s not infallible but others have translated it that way too

civic dust
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Garps whole ideal is for the next generation to fix the problem. He doesn’t belief he and his current gen can do anything

grand flower
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I don’t see Garp as passive and complacent

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Garp is about preparing the next generation

thick mango
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im a pretty fervent garp defender

grand flower
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Have you ever noticed that Garp is a dive tank

timber glacier
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Bruh just reread the honesty impact scene

hardy stratus
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No

trim lily
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we haven’t exactly seen garp active

ruby moat
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Overwatch lingo

trim lily
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the only thing we’ve really seen him do is fuck around or train new gen

thick mango
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well if he was a part of founding sword thats pretty big

trim lily
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i still can’t really wrap my head around sword

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why does the WG let them exist, they don’t offer anything they don’t already have

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thick mango
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maybe its not explictly reported to the wg

formal wagon
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that happened to jarul

trim lily
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it feels like they only exist to have an explicitly good side of the marines/wg

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grand flower
# trim lily we haven’t exactly seen garp active

On Hachinosu and Me Valley, Garp jumps ahead to fight the big guns because he knows that while he does that, his people can do important stuff like save civilians. He does what he knows he can do and they can’t

This fighting style sums up the role he plays. He’s not standing side doing nothing. His role as mentor is the same, which is why he stays in the Navy. He’s pushing back against the CD BS by strengthening his students’ morals and capabilities

He’s very much in the fight, garp is just a team player that supports his team with meathead shit and strong morals so they can do the important stuff for the people

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And training them

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That’s why I don’t see it as far fetched for him to be in that Illuminati role like Yall called it

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That’s how he helps support the fight against the CDs

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Dragon runs a force that saves people the can’t or won’t get to

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Idk what the hell Kuzan is doing

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But shank stole nika from them

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Like I said, I’m sure they all hate the CDs more than each other

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Kuzan probably supports Blackbeards potential to eradicate them

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He probably knows about his pops

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dapper tree
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Dive tank with 200% knock back on attacks

formal wagon
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h*z*rd overwatch 😔

dapper tree
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Bro that's everyone's favorite character

grand flower
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Did over watch invent that term

dapper tree
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Yes

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Don't fact check me

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Please

pure scaffold
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Fuck wrong chat

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Nvm me, fine gents, ladies and classy non-binaries here present, by all means carry on the convo

dapper tree
thick mango
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do folks think imu will get vivi and luffy will have to got to mariejoa to rescue her

dapper tree
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I hope not

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I hope Vivi chills with the revos

thick mango
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i think she would be a good ideological match but i dont really see her path there

dapper tree
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Well, either she gets kidnapped by knights, gets rescued by revos, or stumbles and bumbles with wapol and morgans until she gets to the SHs

hazy turret
hasty sable
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need a followup to this lol

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Loki falling in love at first sight with Lola lol

hazy turret
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I’m waiting for Oda to retract it

pure scaffold
# hazy turret Son 3 years ago????

Someone on manga just said they would never go to #anime again. We did memed about the anime chat being the super weenie's Jr but I couldn't find it, so I picked one result at random lmao

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Guess I'll just remake the meme again on Photoshop, then

hasty sable
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One of my favorite small gags

dapper tree
hasty sable
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Loki allowing himself to be vulnerable for the first time in his life and she's just not into him

dapper tree
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He spiraled after that

brittle basin
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Forgot to vote this morning

grand flower
dapper tree
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I haven't gotten a gold in forever

dapper tree
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Mihawk was never strong

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He just got free upgrades from his dad

civic dust
dapper tree
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Morj is just bottom of the barrel

strong wadi
dapper tree
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We really should

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Meek isn't even here to hype him up

civic dust
dapper tree
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Tekking is just an odd guy

hasty sable
dapper tree
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Kata has such aura there

pulsar path
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Ik we have lurking tubers here

dapper tree
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They steal our theories

brittle basin
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They steal and profit off our theories.

dapper tree
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They really do

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And Meek just gives them money

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For no reason

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dapper tree
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No, they vote wrong on purpose

potent thunder
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Bro whoever the fuck were saying good things about the golden knights

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Fuck u

grand flower
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?

tranquil blade
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grand flower
dapper tree
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froom eek

brittle basin
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i missclick a lot on games with teamkill

maiden crystal
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son

hardy stratus
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Boya

restive lintel
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I like his smile

thick mango
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Ragnir is my favorite elbaf character

ionic palm
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Ragnir for Strawhat, I will die on this hill regarding this, gimme

thick mango
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If loki gets got in any way usopp is a lock for ragnir

charred flower
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Cmon ppl vote for the Goat and take zoroards back to their caves

barren token
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Hi everyone it's a very special little guys birthday today :)

hardy stratus
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stable cedar
stray prism
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Wordle 1,791 5/6

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Staircase

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Regardless they look absolutely ass

quiet ice
rose rune
rose rune
rain cedar
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It's so that you can spot his slop content right away ShakkyTrue

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chapter kinda late this week

rustic coral
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No choptir

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WHAT

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One piece ended srry

civic dust
quiet ice
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Whose to say the commissioned don’t use ai

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comissioning ai to do their work FujiWoke

odd rune
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i didnt realise you were wrong in the future

muted hedge
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In times of drought, also-manga is reduced to gifs

frail kindle
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chapter today for sure

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Feeso said meek ate the chapter

cold steppe
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Oda slacking

rain cedar
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JuPeter oh yeah who reads that slop

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dense haven
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this is like the 5th time meek broke up with morj

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he always comes back

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such a toxic relationship

raven marten
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I wonder where every strawhat will go to when they finally accomplish their dream

grand flower
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I think theyll stay on the One Piece, personally

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I imagine it’s a ship or vessel of immense scale

spice python
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Probably back to their home villages

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Or towns

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to find two piece

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one piece two piece red piece blue piece

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piece deez nuts

grand flower
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My tummy hurts

tranquil blade
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Same tbh

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Try pooping

grand flower
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Poop for both of us Avery

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I never can

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muted hedge
small ember
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Man I really do like Zaza’s design

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urban lodge
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Nika get some variety

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Imu and Zaza with a whole ass orchestra over here and bro is just don dut dodo-ing

small ember
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Yeah like bro you’re the god of the sun and laughter do something spontaneous

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small ember
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I have no idea glex

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I believe buffy might know

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It was some show i think

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Japanese television

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Someone linked and we all went nuts

grand flower
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I love a good villain

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Damn they picked a fire pic for Sakazuki

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I love how he still wears the basic Marine cap after all this time

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Was he wearing one as a kid

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Nah it just says Justice

rain cedar
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Wasn't he wearing one at Ohara

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Probably since his early days

grand flower
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A hood, I remember that for sure

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Oh yeah he was wearing a hat

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It seems to be a symbol of his Navy-rooted dogmatism

ashen perch
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He was wearing both

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A hood over his hat

rain cedar
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He loves his cap lmao

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ashen perch
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That is from Chapter 0 right?

rain cedar
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I think so yeah

wraith mantle
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Bro wearing a cap even though he has a perfect hairline

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Handicapping his mogging

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Akainu is bald

grand flower
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He’s calling Ace a bitch here

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And Whitebeard

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Ace said “say it to my face” then Akainu killed him LMAO

hasty sable
grand flower
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Akainu is fuckin tuff man he doesn’t get enough credit

hasty sable
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Straw Hats will sail together for decades

sly belfry
grand flower
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It took him so long to come up from the ravine cause he had to lug his two giant brass balls up with him

hasty sable
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The adventure never ends and it will be a new world in the end to explore anyway

grand flower
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There’s no way Akainu doesnt have Hao

hasty sable
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Akainu was a slick villain in Marineford. The Squard thing too.

rain cedar
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rain cedar
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If you're done with the Grand line, go adventuring in west blue or smth

grand flower
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He played the role IG but Whitebeard clocked Sengoku put him up to it

hasty sable
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I forgot that

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Sengoku is also devious

grand flower
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I did too until I reread a couple years ago

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I really hope we get to see the mentoring Sengoku and Tsuru gave Kizaru and Akainu

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What the hell did Tsuru teach that man

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LMFAO

dark nymph
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a true inspiration

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akainu will appear in the next yakuza game

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Do people remember kurouma

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internet does remember

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🫡

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I forgot he has red hair

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Garling's 4th son

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whose the 3rd

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They call him fronsen

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debatable

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No he is, I was the doula

dark nymph
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I had a dream Brook got DR'd

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so random

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@ashen perch Mihawk has an attack in the games called 16 Night Moon which is pretty much synonyms for Imus name

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BrookSmoky Ohohohoy

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I know you like the references to 16 ans nighttime with Imus name

ashen perch
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Yeah I pointed it out before smh

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Nerona Mihawk

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There's an attack name that is literally "Mu"

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Black Blade: Mu

grand flower
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Yeah I just found that out too

grand flower
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Where are you exactly with Mihawk Imu

hasty sable
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Maybe the context of their famous duel was related to them both being CDs

rain cedar
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Since when were video games valid sources JuPeter

digital spear
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Shanks and Mihawks rivalry started when Shanks was in Mariejois

hasty sable
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Mihawk was sent after Shanks when he betrayed them

digital spear
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So glue

ashen perch
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Mihawk was baffled by shanks beauty

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He wanted shanks

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They kissed

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Shanks on the other hand left him

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Doomed yaoi

digital spear
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They were both blades of god in training

hasty sable
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But it didn’t mean anything according to Shanks

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He was a Figarland boy he was a Nerona boy

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It was all a facade

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💔

hasty sable
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Then they fought and Shanks convinced him to be a cop killer instead

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Story of a flipflop boy and the gothic

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The name romance dawn was actually based on their story

hasty sable
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It was over when Shanks true to get him to play hacky sack

ashen perch
# ashen perch I think Mihawk is certainly a Nerona atleast, but I'm a lot more iffy on him bei...

Its mainly really because I think that's reserved for Nami lol, but I guess nothing's stopping them both from being his direct children.

If it does happen though, I think the first fight of the series, Helmeppo and Morgan v Luffy and Zoro was basically a big hint to the very final fight of the series.

Morgan is referred to as "Great Morgan" and "Great One" the same way Imu is, and he basically "fights" against Zoro and Luffy alongside his son Helmeppo

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Basically, it'd mean that the final fight of the series is Luffy and Zoro v Imu and Mihawk

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Preach

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It's hard to say why exactly Mihawk would agree to go back to Imu if he really was betrayed though, I'm trying to figure that part out

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We just solved that mystery tho

ashen perch
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Maybe that Navy/WG split could help if Mihawk's issues were only with the Navy

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...

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It's a love story

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👨‍👩‍👦

muted hedge
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i don't think Imu will have any direct offspring

ashen perch
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Also yeah I agree that there's that additional layer to the relationship between Mihawk and Shanks, its the descendant of Imu and the descendant of Joyboy

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One friendship fell apart, but Mihawk's and Shanks's has endured for now atleast

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A dynamic with centuries of layers to it, Oda loves that sort of thing

final trench
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If mihawk aint related to imu, then its yoru

blazing depot
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mihawk fans are that desparate huh

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Your username sucks ass

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You don't deserve to say this

final trench
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Tellem again

digital spear
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Biblo saved the books from Ohara because they are evil

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Some ancient yuri

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"One of them even has smut. U think i'd let imu burn that shit?"

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Biblu is an innocent pookie owl

muted hedge
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i need a Wario and Waluigi rpg yasterday

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nintendo needs to stop just using them in spin offs

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i am so tired of it

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why don't they embrace Waluigi and Wario in the mainline games

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outside of just some silly costumes

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Waluigi is literally the best character out of the Super Mario universe

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pseudo gulch
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He deserves better

muted hedge
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I didn’t know they made Mario RPGs

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both very good rpg games if you ask me

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Oh wow I never knew those were RPGs

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I cry every time

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Tho my nostalgia forces me into saying paper mario 64 is the better of the two

muted hedge
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the remake of Paper Mario A Thousand Year Door is absolutely peak

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outside of just being 30 fps it's a really nice update to the og on the gamecube

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crude nebula
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Wendigo fruit 🤯🤯🤯🤯

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Wallahi

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mario fruit

fallen meteor
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oh shit new day new theory

fallen meteor
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Is it Robin killed all those people time

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🙏

formal wagon
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Omen causes Mpreg

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theres evidence for this

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What's the evidence

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Mihawk?

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So mihawk was asexually reproduced?

formal wagon
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oh...ok

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confidential

digital spear
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Especially Paper Mario the 1000 year door

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This will improve your One Piece theories

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Yc is something wrong in manga theories or is my discord glitching

digital spear
mighty roost
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It's the same what mailbox is having

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Wow

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I was tripping

mighty roost
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also did the server become dry after no spoilers

digital spear
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Evil lord

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He is the devil yo

digital spear
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omen causes mpreg btw

mighty roost
formal wagon
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theres evidence in the manga for this

digital spear
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This explains Pregbeard

formal wagon
digital spear
formal wagon
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THAT MAN

digital spear
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ISNT THAT RIGHT?!
THAT MAN!!!

ruby moat
#

in a BREATHTAKING DOUBLE SPREAD

mighty roost
#

pubert

formal wagon
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WOAH

fallen meteor
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They banned pubert?

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Might be time to delete discord..

formal wagon
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🕊️

grand flower
balmy field
blazing depot
#

im so glad I am freed from the tyranny of redon and worstgen

dense haven
#

are they really gone

formal wagon
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they dropped the manga

formal wagon
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WHAT

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(rhetorical)

dense haven
#

ball

crude nebula
#

This yall final villain group

urban lodge
#

We really surprised 2 giants are physically very strong?

thick mango
crude nebula
crude nebula
crude nebula
thick mango
#

They knocked him over he was fine

urban lodge
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Sure why not

thick mango
#

Zero damage done

urban lodge
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These are legendary giant warriors

crude nebula
#

Is that why he said ugh

thick mango
#

We ugh scaling now?

crude nebula
iron oriole
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Its just a deflection, you don't have to be physically stronger to do that

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Even if they was physically stronger in that situation, its two of them

crude nebula
crude nebula
iron oriole
#

Marin coming in with the anime only

fallen meteor
#

What i posted that unprompted

urban lodge
fallen meteor
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Was it the topic?

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Sorry

iron oriole
#

Uh huh

crude nebula
iron oriole
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Surprised the Akainu pfp didn't say Akainu final villain

rain cedar
crude nebula
urban lodge
#

They're professional jobbers

crude nebula
fallen meteor
#

Man that image is so funny

iron oriole
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Lmao

fallen meteor
hasty sable
#

Gorosei are Dorry and Brogy level

dark nymph
fervent fable
rain cedar
#

He's joking

fast pagoda
rain cedar
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But if you just talk about fighting skills, most of them seem like theyre not great at it except gandhi

fast pagoda
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I unironically do think Dorry and Broggy are stronger than the Gorosei

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At least stronger than most of them

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I also think Dorry and Broggy are stronger without the domi reversi

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I know broggy stated he felt stronger but I dont take Oda as a canon source

thick mango
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I dont think raw strength like whether or not you can ring the bell on the carnival game is the end-all metric when it comes to fighting capability

rain cedar
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We haven't seen their hybrids yet so that's something

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Except Vanusjuro

fast pagoda
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Regen is just a terrible power

latent hamlet
thick mango
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even if a gorosei had to fight someone 100x stronger than them they still win due to regen

fast pagoda
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Its the only thing about the knights i dont like

fast pagoda
latent hamlet
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I can see a world where their raw strength is better than the elders yea

fast pagoda
latent hamlet
#

I think regen exists cuz oda wanted to make them immortaln

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But even immortal foes kinda suck

fervent fable
latent hamlet
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Thats why in most fiction u either get the anti-immortal ability
Or sealing magic

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But this is one piece so sealing aint happening

dark nymph
fast pagoda
latent hamlet
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Imagine spending all your perk points into regen

fervent fable
latent hamlet
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When u could have spent them in getting higher stats

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Or a new super attack

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Where's hellfire hakoku

fast pagoda
#

Also sanji was able to defeat killingham without conquerors by exploiting his regeneration

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Because Oda is a HACK

dark nymph
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I think the worst thing about regen is how flimsy they all become when they get it

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like they're made of paper

fast pagoda
#

YES

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Especially when its being used by MYTHICAL ZOANS

fervent fable
latent hamlet
#

I think its cuz they can actually show damage

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Look at piccolo from dragon ball

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Dood loses his limbs just to regen it

gentle pivot
latent hamlet
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Everyone else? Eh either hurt/broke

fast pagoda
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Regen is a bad power for them it doesnt fit their characterization

red lagoon
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I think it’s mainly a ego thing with the gorosei

fast pagoda
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They should have like an invisible barrier

gentle pivot
red lagoon
fast pagoda
gentle pivot
red lagoon
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They don’t even feel the need to move

latent hamlet
#

Luffy punches a non-regen super hard"
"Ow it hurt u might have broke something I took a gazillion dps but I look ok"
Luffy does the sane to regen
"U literally obliterated half of my body"

gentle pivot
#

they kept regenerating

red lagoon
#

It’s the same thing

rain cedar
#

Regen is bad because it's honestly lame. I think it takes away from the villains if they have this inherent hax ability

thick mango
#

the straw hats had to escape the gorosei

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and get bailed out by the haki knot

gentle pivot
fast pagoda
#

Weakens the damage taken

gentle pivot
latent hamlet
#

Demon slayer had its demons possess extremely high levels of regeneration

thick mango
#

yeah it makes them feel inevitable

latent hamlet
#

Tho their vibe is different

red lagoon
#

I think the idea of anything u do I can regen fits

latent hamlet
#

Theirs is more "we literally can just tire u out ngl"

dark nymph
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can't wait for Luffy to blow Imu's body to bits

so if he punches Shanks later and he's fine we can assume that Shank's body is tougher than Imu right JuPeter

red lagoon
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Like we seen them get holes blown into them and nothing

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I think that’s cooler imo

fast pagoda
#

He should give them something that doesnt make them look like losers

fast pagoda
urban lodge
#

I think regen would be fine if Oda didn't instantly turn them into punching bags the moment we know they have regen

latent hamlet
#

I think part of it is the regen is just a crutch and one piece kinda treats it as "that would have totalllllly killed me....if I didnt have regen woo thx u imu sama"

crude nebula
frigid gulch
#

Nusjuro doesn’t let himself get hit JuPeter

dense haven
#

oda thinks there is no other way to show regen

frigid gulch
#

It may just be character differences

latent hamlet
#

Unironically demon slayer kinda does regen better cuz its incorporated into the demons fighting style
They're extremely volatile and reckless and willingly take attacks cuz its not a death blow

dense haven
#

if a character isn't blown to atoms whats even the point of regen

gentle pivot
frigid gulch
#

He didn’t let himself get hit there

fast pagoda
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This is why I say its a disadvantage not an advantage

latent hamlet
frigid gulch
#

I’m saying he sees an attack coming and stands still

latent hamlet
#

If I know i have regen and im a demon

fast pagoda
#

They didnt feel like a real threat at all

latent hamlet
#

Im fighting like an insane crashout

dark nymph
crude nebula
latent hamlet
#

Im gonna be doing the most destructive shit

soft tangle
latent hamlet
#

Knowing I cant be stopped

frigid gulch
#

Sorta

crude nebula
gentle pivot
latent hamlet
#

Killer Ham and Sommers should be literally bum rushing their foes cuz they know they cant be stopped

#

Instead they fight super careful

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And treat each blow as AAAAAAA I TOOK 100 TRILLION DAMAGE

rain cedar
#

Sommers is low-key dumb

frigid gulch
#

Sommers is dramatic as well

#

Like Greenbull

#

I think they both exaggerate shit

rain cedar
#

Gunko is the only one who actually uses her head

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That's how she took down Gaban

frigid gulch
#

But Sommers still seems to be a decent enough fighter

fast pagoda
frigid gulch
#

Killingham idk

crude nebula
#

We’re all excited for Warcury vs Morley

rain cedar
#

He's alright. Could hold off his own against Gaban

fast pagoda
rain cedar
#

A washed Gaban but still

urban lodge
#

Using regen to aura farm

#

That's how you do it

frigid gulch
#

Ye but he’s also pretty good with his df

gentle pivot
#

Literally about to win the entire arc before joyboys haki from centuries ago conveniently saved the strawhats and giants 🙏

rain cedar
#

I'll give Sommers some credit, his opponents haven't been all small fry

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Got out smarted by Robin

latent hamlet
#

Like realistically you're FINE. Ok sure maybe your pain receptors are still alive but you're fine

They should be fighting like how in demon slayer, you can literally cut off entire limbs and in a second or 2 its right back and the demon is still doing crazy attacks

rain cedar
#

Then surprised by Gaban

crude nebula
iron oriole
royal orchid
rain cedar
#

Yeah, I'm not blaming that on him

latent hamlet
#

U can fight extremely volatile and reckless

#

Huge explosive destructive attacks

iron oriole
#

Thats what they all do

latent hamlet
#

Yes but they need to abandon all sense of self preservation

frigid gulch
#

I think it’s ok to use regen but maybe reliance on it could dull them still

rain cedar
frigid gulch
#

If they come across a conq user

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They def shouldn’t be trying to take attacks

rain cedar
#

Oda really wanted to glaze aCoC as much as possible so now we are stuck with Regen lmao

urban lodge
#

Haki is the root of all evil

rain cedar
#

It unironically is

frigid gulch
#

Everything points to the steel hearts rn

urban lodge
#

The steel heart thing feels so out of nowhere

iron oriole
#

They're arrogant & complacent because of the regen for sure but i wouldn't say any HK uses regen more effectively than others, at least not so far... if we see like Shamrock throwing himself on like idk Shiryu's sword to reach him easily & cut him down then sure i'd say he used the regen more effectively than others so far

urban lodge
#

I'm still not sure all of them are supposed to have them

crude nebula
rain cedar
#

Did Killy have the steel heart

frigid gulch
#

I’m not either but

rain cedar
#

He didn't right

frigid gulch
#

There must be something

crude nebula
iron oriole
trim lily
rain cedar
#

I thought it was just a one off thing for Sommers

urban lodge
#

That would make more sense

frigid gulch
#

Zoro’s dialogue refers to them as a group but he has only seen it from Sommers. Still, that may be Oda indicating to us that they all do

iron oriole
#

Idt its just Sommers tbh

frigid gulch
#

We will see

trim lily
#

also remember that gunko had her top half blown off and she was fine

rain cedar
trim lily
#

where her heart would usually be

crude nebula
urban lodge
#

The gorosei also got completely blown to bits

trim lily
#

everything got destroyed except the heart

frigid gulch
#

Well then the heart didn’t get destroyed

#

Or shifted

trim lily
#

harald also didn’t really get a new heart to our knowledge

#

he just went through a ritual

iron oriole
frigid gulch
#

I think the idea is the ritual does that

urban lodge
#

If all of them have them Oda just made this shit up recently

trim lily
#

that’s very silly but i wouldn’t doubt it honestly

fast pagoda
#

Notice how harald got sliced up by shanks and gaban after getting regen

frigid gulch
#

Harald wasn’t informed on his powers at all tbh

trim lily
#

evil demon magic that turns your heart into a robot

fast pagoda
#

Regen doesnt make you feel stronger its just makes you feel weaker

frigid gulch
#

He just got told a basic amount

#

So like in terms of shifting the heart or whatever I don’t think hed know any of that stuff

#

His heart was in normal position

iron oriole
#

Idt the contracts instantly did the steel heart shit as part of it all, i think this was something done after the fact for extra layers of security

Perhaps a HK with regen, can be killed if you destroy the heart & has happened before so Imu discovered whatever it is that gave Sommers the steel heart as a fail safe

crude nebula
#

We all know they have metal hearts anyway

rain cedar
#

Most of the stuff has been pretty unbelievable if you ask me

trim lily
#

idk somehow turning someone’s heart mechanical is more unbelievable to me

frigid gulch
#

Imu wraps Omen around their hearts

trim lily
#

i’d be more willing to believe each knight has their own weak point

frigid gulch
trim lily
#

and for sommers it’s his mechanical heart

frigid gulch
#

Ye ig that works too

crude nebula
#

Js wait till the revs hack imu and the goroseis heart

rain cedar
#

Idt everyone has steel hearts either but it wouldn't be too outlandish with all the stuff imu does

frigid gulch
#

But if you have this whole “core” idea then

#

The heart or brain or something

muted hedge
thick mango
#

i dont dislike regen as much as some people seem to but i do still prefer bb

formal wagon
#

when did fraudffy get turned into a horse

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this is bad for horses

#

oh thats killingam

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nvm

iron oriole
thick mango
#

im in favor of anything that supports rule of cool

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idgaf about combat being balanced or believable

rain cedar
#

The last time he was brutal....two characters died. I think marineford was the bloodiest arc

grand flower
#

cyborgmu

crude nebula
#

This vs black pacman flames

formal wagon
#

what are pacman flames

crude nebula
fallen meteor
#

The wizard of oz

fallen meteor
hasty sable
#

Zoro cutting Sommers heart and killing him

trim lily
#

sommers the tin man

#

oh wait wasn’t the thing with the tin man that he couldn’t feel love or something

hasty sable
#

He didn’t have a heart

trim lily
#

same thing

fallen meteor
#

Theres some connections

trim lily
#

goda

iron oriole
#

Which one is the cowardly Lion?

hasty sable
#

The Tin Woodsman didn’t have thorns though pogPause

fallen meteor
#

With the fears?

trim lily
#

not really cowardice related though

muted hedge
#

that's such a good example of "making connections just to make connections"

trim lily
#

but i guess he’s adjacent

iron oriole
#

Ehh i wouldn't say fearing something = being a coward

trim lily
#

is there any possible way to connect the scarecrow

urban lodge
hasty sable
#

They’re all cowards according to Usopp

fallen meteor
#

Gunko is dorothy because she had those boots once(?)

hasty sable
fallen meteor
trim lily
#

shamrock is dorothy

fallen meteor
trim lily
#

yep

trim lily
#

we solved it

fallen meteor
#

Oda sorry to spoil it

hasty sable
#

Shamrock clicks his heels and returns home

formal wagon
#

omen causes mpreg

trim lily
#

imu is the wizard somehow

hasty sable
#

And Cerberus is his Todo

iron oriole
fallen meteor
#

Has oda ever referenced wizard of oz?

#

It feels like a nice story to base stuff off

trim lily
#

i don’t think so

#

i wonder how big/known it is in japan

muted hedge
#

probably well regarded

iron oriole
#

There was the Emerald City mentioned

muted hedge
#

wasn't there an anime adaptation too

grand flower
#

im reading invincible and someone is doing the nika dance

trim lily
#

i tried to think of a way to turn robert’s name into a goda-like but i got nothing

blazing depot
trim lily
#

robin not doing the dance is foreshadowing that shes the traitor

hasty sable
#

!!

grand flower
wet condor
grand flower
wet condor
#

She was playing the long haul

trim lily
#

nerona robin wins again

hasty sable
#

Kaizoku ou ni ore wa naru

formal wagon
#

nerona paulie>

crude nebula
#

Crazy how chopper lowkey has the wendigo fruit which is lowkey a myth from the abyss like Niddhog

formal wagon
#

theres evidence for this

brittle basin
prisma yacht
#

Who

grand flower
#

check western series

#

this is insane

rose rune
brittle basin
rose rune
formal wagon
#

woah

dark nymph
#

Loki and Luffy 2v1 or Loki gets clapped and Imu's 1v1s Luffy

prisma idol
dark nymph
#

How many ugly characters are in Elbaph?

urban lodge
#

Just R*cks

dense haven
#

penny do you think kid can beat loki

urban lodge
#

No

hazy turret
#

Wow…

tranquil blade
#

Is Ragnir metal

#

Like metal that actually can be pulled to magnets

#

If it is then...

golden jacinth
#

😭🙏

pulsar path
#

It can just turn into a squirrel

dark nymph
golden jacinth
pulsar path
#

Or make the hammer squirrel material

#

It's crazy people still bringing kid up 🫪

crude nebula
#

This is how imus gonna end up at the end of elbaf

#

The morj theory

pulsar path
#

Rain god will beat Imu

latent hamlet
#

Imu explodes

#

The end

crude nebula
fast pagoda
#

Thats the anime

grand flower
crude nebula
#

They added a parallel dialogue cause Imus gonna end up getting sent back by a lightning attack

#

So the morj theory

ashen perch
distant vine
# grand flower

Garp's line with the added context of fandom convos is so funny man

#

"You can't even cook prime ribs, let alone Prime Me!"

ashen perch
# ashen perch it didnt add anything lol

Viz just translated it differently there because its the same word, but yeah, its right out of the manga. Yet another of the Legoland connections with the arc.

crude nebula
ashen perch
#

yea

distant vine
#

This has reaction pic potential, would just need some editing to cut out the line next to it

crude nebula
#

That makes the morj theory WAYYY more likely

jade rain
#

People who keep saying imu is earth god, but do we even know if the planet in op verse is called earth?

prisma yacht
#

Hello

#

Guys

#

Wake up

golden jacinth
#

Hello

prisma yacht
#

It's time for school

#

Wake up from nini

golden jacinth
#

🙂‍↔️

prisma yacht
#

@urban lodge

golden jacinth
#

🙂‍↔️

distant vine
#

Well earth can just refer to the planet as in whats on it

#

Not necessarily its name

prisma yacht
#

Pee shld be in capital

prisma yacht
#

Penny

urban lodge
#

Nuh uh

ashen perch
#

Morj did NOT invent that theory dawg

urban lodge
#

This is bad enough

prisma yacht
#

Ur breaking the rules

ashen perch
#

I was saying that a full year before Morj

prisma yacht
#

pennyroyalPEE

distant vine
#

They could call it Planet...actually what would they call this planet

prisma yacht
#

Was the deal

distant vine
hasty sable
#

God? Devil? What’s the difference?

urban lodge
#

My name has always been lowercase and it will always be lowercase

crude nebula
ashen perch
prisma yacht
distant vine
hasty sable
#

Duality of Nika as both savior and destroyer set up

prisma idol
#

Saying what?

urban lodge
pulsar path
prisma yacht
#

Hehehhhehehehe

crude nebula
prisma yacht
#

@pulsar path @prisma idol @hasty sable @distant vine check out pennys name

distant vine
#

What bet did you lose penny

hasty sable
#

Heh

ashen perch
crude nebula
#

So imu parallels this

prisma yacht
#

Muhahahahhahahaa

prisma idol
hasty sable
#

Usopp fighting another giant cat

ashen perch
#

I think Morj's interpretation is just wrong to be clear

prisma idol
#

Imu is likely forced to leave due to the Time limit

crude nebula
latent hamlet
jade rain
#

Everyone escapes from legoland while its destroyed right?

hasty sable
#

What did Morj say

prisma yacht
urban lodge