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If he shows any obvious bias thatd be bad
I dunno, Greg says a lot of things that should be grounds for a firing
He's still doing fine
Greg doesnt really have an impact on the reading experience though
Stephen has insane power over the narratives that can be spun
He's writing for the official website, his analysis is read by any JP fans that use the site (and there are thousands)
Its not to the same scale but still
He straight up slanders the author many times lol, it's not really an issue to them I imagine
Mighty boooooosh! Old craaaaige
Also yeah, pre Stephen Paul Viz has this issue so much
Its straight up incomprehensible at times, because they wanted it to sound a certain way
Ignoring how anything's worded in the original, ignoring the emphasis points that Oda uses for specific phrases or terms, ignoring the possible original intent
Oh and thats not even getting into how ugly it looked till like Skypiea, the ugly fonts for the typesetting, the big ass SFX covering up the artwork
Viz NEEDS to do a new version at some point
VIZ Peace đ„
Yeah but have you read the shounen jump monthly translation ?
USA. Versions?
No zolo for like 25 chapters

I think I have seen a few pages, that too is the same pre Stephen Paul Viz, riddled with the same mistakes
I used to have those when they were in syrup village and arlong park
If only I kept themâŠ
They didn't do Zolo? Wow, I guess they could get away with it lol
It wasn't a volume release
They are my one-piece 
Yeah they changed it by the time the anime started airing sadly
But we got some Zoro
I read the same syrup village chapter 100 times in a row due to those monthly magazines
Maybe thatâs why I donât hate the arc
Me too đ and same lmao
Chapter 1 had me hooked but like man
As I kid I was like where is shanks! Luffys a pirate now!!!
Also I have issue 3 still in wrapping 
20 years later
Yeah lmao đ
kid you was a speedreader I'm afraid, the promise was about Luffy becoming a great pirate
Not just any old pirate
Is he actually called a great pirate now, I forgot
No
Okay yeah then its still not time
What the fuck is Shanks' definition of a great pirate
I dont see any point in time where luffy is ginna be called a great pirate
Hes a yonko now and the next step is pirate king
Its a specific term for the best of the best pirates
Yeah exactly
Kaido, Shanks, WB, BM and Roger are the only ones who were called Great Pirates - Dai Kaizoku
This is so funny why did the chat ignore it
No
Like shanks was the comparisons
Luffy was on shanks level if you just read chapter 1 other than just not having a crew
Just saying. That was the 13 year old interpretation
Thank god im not helper or else id pin that
Didn't rayleigh say it or something lol
I think maybe it was Gaban
cant have luffy be called a great pirate after 30 years, thats too soon
Bro led the most influential event in the last 24 years but thats not great enough đ
"Back in the day, we could do better"
Luffy returning the hat before the series ends and it just going on without him having it would be really funny
So Luffy can meet Shanks now, thats cool
"Monster Kaido and Big Mom"
No big mom glaze
Kaido gets called Monster
No they're calling both monsters
TCB used the plural atleast, maybe Stephen hates Big Mom
hard to tell without raws
Big mom hate would not be surprising
What
Its probably still kinda ambiguous due to the nature of japanese
Should we bother feeso
Not important enough
Unfortunately the raws site got nuked so I can't get it
Its about Luffy's promise to Shanks
I mean yea obv but why elbaph
I think Oda might be avoiding it for the overlooked part of the promise though, which is Luffy telling him that he'll surpass him and his crew will also surpass his crew. Neither has happened yet
Shanks: not great enough. U need to find the one piece beat imu and blackbeard and then beat me in a 1v1 on east blue during sunset in front of Makino
Maybe once Elbaf ends though

which chapter is this? I bought a lot of digital weekly jump in Japanese last year
1135
I think if they fight it wont be serious and luffy is probably gonna be handed the win
We're getting dripfed shanks lore
Or its serious , and thats the âflashy endingâ oda was talking about
goes with a bang
Does Luffy surpass Shanksâ crew by fighting him or does he surpass them by beating Blackbeard after they lose to him
Latter
But shanks has to die when he fights bb
Im fine with shanks and luffy never meeting though
Thoughts?
People complain about anything bro
Yeah kinda crazy
Who cares what the only Sengoku fan in existence thinks
"he ate an apple" ass criticism
I dont particularly like reading it but it makes sense so i cant really complain
Blackbeard vs Shanks going to be some hype weeks
Ig you have any difficulty reading this, I worry about your education system
Bold of you to assume it wonât be offscreened
Also that's not happening
There will be a fakeout
shanks gonna be armless at the end
Yeah its ambiguous "ano (that/those) kaibutsu (monster(s)) "Kaidou" to "Biggu - Mammu""
We got 8 gods total so far
Sword from Wano and War from Elbaf too I guess
9
Wait who were the others
The ancient weapons are named after Gods
Does say Dai Kaizoku for Luffy fwiw
That's in the brackets right?
dont joy react me idk what the criterea is
list may not end if it goes like that
Plus elbaf and wano god
Yonkou is in brackets, Daikaizoku is at the end of the sentence
whos the elbaf god?
Ah
Elbaf
Elbaf
My personal read is that the monster is said with respect to Kaido not Big Mom personally
when did they call elbaf a god
It goes all the way back to little garden
Elbaf's god is the God of War that transforms into Nidhoggr, The God of War was called Elbaf by Dorry in Little Garden
Dorry and Brogy wouldnt really be that clued in on what BM did on Elbaf right?
They would
oh okay i think my mind just selective memoried the prophecy slop
They were brought upto speed on everything, I think they mentioned that
Sword God is Ryuma
AH
oh its just ryuma
Real
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so the list goes on
oh shit new day new theory, my bad
I mean they're obviously not like real divine beings or whatever
Ryuma is no less than any other god
Because their origins will all be ultimately human at the end of the day
Ryuma is a superhuman swordsman, just like any of the other gods will be superhumans
My prediction is that gods did exist. But the devil fruit users based on gods are not ones
Bjorn is betraying elbaf to become a celestial dragon
fuck i made it my default pfp
I think the only god that has a strong chance of being actually divine is the Mother Sea
The others are going to be just... People
i hope zaza is vander decken I
Even meh
that'd be a cool twist
first good one so far in chat
and its from mailbox
The times are changing...
Superhuman loses meaning here
I dunno, its the only being that feels a little too powerful
Characters have been that since baratie
meowban bros are superhuman
Well there's levels to it
đ superhuman +
Gods being like superhuman among superhuman is like the most common trope anyway...
I guess metahuman would be a better word
that word makes me think of CW's the flash
That's how I'm imagining it, but I didn't want to make a DC reference
Normal people whose abilities either had them transcended to another form
Well you rather they be real then? I'm just thinking of what Ganfall said all the way back in Skypiea
Its a world of humans
or their actions made them revered enough to leave a mark
I don't like that either
I want there being some good point made for godhood
Themes and such or w/e
I think the potential that there was a method in the first or second world to gain immortality (hopefully its the rocs from the one shot) keeps growing, we keep seeing long lived creatures have the imu mihawk zunesha biblo eye pattern
Ryuma the only god so far not from the void century or before right?
Well I do think it was their actions that made the specific 10 or less stand out
Enel upscale
MEH
They weren't the only supernatural humans, but they were the most notable ones
Enel will become the space God
Star God
i think we don't actually know when ryuma was alive, the source where it says x amount of years is non canon i think it was just the anime that said that iirc but ill double check

Space God Enel, hmmm
Aliens is another good idea, to a regular person, anything that is foreign can seem divine
I mean I have a theory that zaza is doing the same as Imu but instead of contracts it's blessings
It was op magazine that said it
Ie both Vivi and dragon have been blessed by zaza as there unofficial zaza knights
Bringers of storms
~~i looked it up and it says the info that ryuma lived 400 years ago is from ~~ i was just writing that out đ
but yeah, idk if thats canon or not
We don't know I guess
Ryuma is definitely not from the Void Century, because Onimaru noted that he fought and pushed back Celestial Dragons that came after Wano. CDs weren't a thing until after the Void Century
its editor content i think so its blurry ground like the vivre cards
Lemme find the 400 year statement
It was from OP magazine yeah, but you don't even have to worry about that
Oda's own written dialogue made it clear that he fought the Celestial Dragons
I imagine Nusjuro might know a thing or two about that!
You know, Venus is called the "Planet of Gold" in Japanese, he's also the Warrior God of Finance
Called him a god after
oda might have his cake and eat it too w/ toki's fruit
Ahh I forgot all the gorsei call them selfs gods
concerning ryuma
So he turned to imu is what you are going at
Wait hold up
Nusjuro is the finance god
How much money did he spend on his sword
Wano is the Country of Gold
they're hella poor for that name
I think Nusjuro was the Celestial that Ryuma fought
i didnt see a drop of gold
He was the one that came after Wano, 400 years ago
Their currency is gold
Ryuma bodied him fo sure
No he didn't
He did
But he definitely didn't win, yeah
Ie wano is rich in resources not just gold
I imagine it was an equal clash
Nusjuro got his ass kicked by ryuma so hard he stole ryuma's whole fit
Equal for 2 secs
You're not ready for Nusjuro I'm afraid
Who did yall voted
Jack and Cracker only for months straight
Im rdy for nusjuro, you are not ready for ryuma
Both good
Ryuma >> Roger or any old gen
The best op character Garp
You're not gonna like what I am about to say
its carrotover
Yeah, dont say it
I voted for the delulu queen
Carrot Ognib
I think Nusjuros gonna be the strongest or 2nd strongest swordsman ever with Omen
Btw speaking of blackbeard, there's a guy on the internet named Minji and his laugh is so similar to Teach.
Depends on where exactly he places in Zoro's opponents
If he's the last, he's the strongest. If he's not, he's the 2nd strongest.
Could see this actually
With omen
Omen is a tool with which Oda can logically make Nusjuro stronger than Mihawk even
Now I see them as a potential threat
But it just depends on when he comes
Gorosei were never jobbers
Ok but why mars specifically
Nusjuro cut an island in half with one slash
Because he can fly
Nobody's even done that yet
Thatâs cap
Well, I know you're about to say Law
Mihawk essentially did
The tsunami wave is huge
So did S-Hawk
And Rocks kinda did too
Oh the iceburg was nothing
I think I would like all gorosei other than Garling and Nusjuro to be jobber without Imu
It was bigger than marineford
It was massive
And Garling not that high either
it wasn't island sized, you're selling Mihawk short by even noting that as a relevant feat. It was maybe 4x the size of the Moby Dick
I wonder if Oda would ever put out a "definitive edition" manga like Dragon Ball's kanzenban
Lying again
Islands dont have a set size
For what
They vary
It was absolutely massive
Oda will hopefully be enjoying his golden years
Sure yeah, but Egghead was a massive island
Shueisha will milk the cow for all its got
We dont need to worry about that
Y'all are arguing which gorosei is the top man when oda just tells us
Its peak seemed decently taller than Marineford
It's not topman, he's top 3 though
And it was as wide as the island
Warcury why are you hitting that pose?
Mihawk cut it horizontally
It was bigger than the island in everything
The strongest gorse is whichever one the strongest character ends up defeating
Egghead is bigger though
Gorosei lol*
gorse
Why would it autocorrect to gorse I didnât even know that was a word
Law did that 200 years ago
It doesn't count
Puncture Wille is the most underrated feat in the series
Lawâs a bitch tho
Its Law
Thatâs my counter argument
Law is a filthy cheater
Idk what underrated means but itâs one of the coolest attacks in the series for sure
at least he doesn't rely on bullshit like haki
sheesh evan
That whole fight was peak and the only downside was that it wasnât longer
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Is anyone a bigger cheater than Luffy though
sounding like an unc
Idk how Egghead compares to MF but he cut the cloud
He's one
Which seems smaller than the entire island
BM fight should have been 2 more chapters
And he still has more aura than anyone else doing it
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This is awesome tho
Luffy fans genuinely think G5 Luffy isnt at risk vs moves like this btw
Yeah man Law cant do anything vs G5 sure LMAO
Okay we have 5 ships right in front of it, that's a good indicator, I was pretty much right
Law isnt hitting that shit on anyone competent lets be fr
its not anything crazy compared to what Nusjuro did
Way too much setup needed
Tbf, Law only really landed that attack on BM because Kid was able to knock her down and give him an opening
Well..thts def never landing but if it ever did, G5 would feel it
No its not
Arsal
Thatâs not to scale lol
Thats a perspective shot
Its dwafing the ships from a distance
The result wouldnât be 4x
It would be dozens
The ships are standing right in front of it lol
Its a distance shot, the tsunami is dwafing it from a distance
The pieces alone are ship sized
Itâs as wide as the island
It cant possibly be 4x bigger
I was noting the horizontal size here
All of the big 3's ults (bleh even calling it this) are not practical tbh
Then youâre still wrong
Not in a 1v1 that is
The cut is like 5-6 ships wide
The iceberg was island sized
It was bigger than Marineford cause the wave was
Taller and wider
The only relevant panel is when Whitebeard summoned the waves
We see how big they are then
And Mihawk cuts it from like miles away
Kuzan pretty much instantly froze them too
Yeah from both of them
Taller yes but we can see the full cut here horizontally, it's about 6 ships
He cuts the entire Beth
Berg
Itâs about salience and optics ig
6 ships wide đ
Its about salience and optics
Oh I guess, where did the iceburg even fal after the cutl, cant find it
It fell in the ocean
Yeah but seeing it now, if it was that massive, I'm sure it'd fall on more than just a few ships
I was being cunty :gigglehearts:
Huh?
The angle at which it falls and is destroyed isnât going to reach all the ships
Oh yeah I know you were being tongue in cheek
The damage it causes is very little in comparison with its supposed size, which is also why I doubt its that big
brother
Bruh
sonion
Why not
Island size iceburg just vanishes into the void?
The pieces are breaking at different angles
Definitely wider than Marineford
"I broke the gear!" is still one of my favorite speeches
marineford paneling is so sweet
It breaks apart
And falls in different directions
It does not fall face flat
This is not an argument
Up there with Doflamingo's Marineford speech, and the saying Zoro speaks before he does his ultimate attack on Pica
I dunno, I really just doubt that no one would note its size if it was meant to be a notable feat
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Sengoku shaved a decade off his life from stress during the paramount war
Also I've seen the WB panel, I don't think Mihawk cut that ENTIRE THING
We have eyes dude
What are we doing
All we need is eyes
Its bigger than an Island
Yes he did bro
I'm seeing with my eyes the ships that Oda placed in front of it for scale
No you arenât using your eyes very well there
Because thatâs perspective
Thats a feat for the scale of the iceburg
Oh this I haven't seen yeah
The panel you posted is not supporting anything, its going against it
I literally posted it???
Bro skipped marineford
You donât got motion like I do
Guess not
Hey donât give up

There's a bird which looks like whitebeard
You still have a chance

Inca tern
Nah I was skimming through Marineford right now, so I must've missed when you posted it lol
Ah
This how I end up rereading marineford for the 57th time
Viltrumite bird
57 isnt enough
For the empire
Wtf donât let him put you down like that
Stand aside
you right
Lolol no
yeah nusjuro still is bigger to me
Venus did a Streussen level feat

Thats a pun
Law
Venus did a 9/11
Did a laboratory
Actually half a 9/11 cause he dropped only one tower
Lawâs wasnât an island ye
One of my favorite cut
I mean no
Lawâs was half an Island
Yeah Venus can hang with law and streussen
Mihawk hanging with Moriah
We cut islands over here
Man I love powerscaling
What an outrageous series of statements
Whole cake chateau was not the Whole Cake Island
ROOM powers is still basically his swordsmanship tho
Has Imu used a shield
And the labosphere wasnât an island
Egghead's labosphere was actually island sized
Nemesis
It covered the whole island
Shield!!
A sword made of Omen
Sorry I miss spork
Show me
I misspsork
Lolol
Has they used a shield lol
Imu blocked with Omen
For some reason Discord's not working on my pc which is really annoying, gimme a bit
Formed it into like a barrier
Told you to stop tje cap
I really think he's the first worlds Nika đ
If S-Hawk really wanted to
Thatâs a really interesting idea
He was bisecting Amazon Lily
S-Hawk was crazy too
Lowk think BB redirected it
He flung BB with that attack
If you count this
Yeah thatâs what I was thinking of
Top 5 One Piece arcs go
Number 1: Long Ring Long Land
Wano is goated
Elbaph is approaching it
Then the rest
I can't shake the feeling, maybe not Imu but the devil? It's all really confusing to me but they have used the same weapons as Nika has been depicted, I can't remember if joy boy was shown with weapons but as far as we know he was a fisty cufts
Egghead
Him
#1: SkyPEAKia
Egghead is really damn good but I have other arcs on top of it

Not many, but others
SkyPEEa
Skypiea đ„
The way he talks about nidhog and rat being a traitor makes me feel like it's the opposite and Imu betrayed them but how would he know them other than being first world
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And the hair reminds me of Nika
It's longer most the time than luffys and joy boys tho idk when we are seeing joy boy or Nika sometimes
Crazy how the seraphims
Have potential above their original
And S-Hawk WILL be a coc user
S-Snake too
I really want King to end up adopting them since they're technically lunarians too
Despite all that..
I was born when oda was drawing this arc
Hilarious thing to say
Lunarians are supposed to be on Nikaâs side in the third world. Probably means the Seraphim are flipping.
Mihawk probably seems like someone who pretends to be human
Would Mihawk save a bunch of babies in a burning building
Yea
S-Snake already is on Luffys side, so thats 1 down
Idk man
Good question idk
Would he
He would yeah lol
Maybe to kill time
I think he would
He did let the two crash at his place
Also he saved Buggy
King raises the Seraphims EoS
King upscale
King outlived Kaido
possibly...
well maybe King dies before him in the final war
i will be so upset if kaido is alive tbh thats the one thing idk if i can get past
big mom i also wouldnt like but kaido would be so much worse
Restart the lunarian race
King orphanage cover story
King is a broken character
Kaido coming back as an ally would be the funniest thing
I dont mind Kaido being alive at all, it would be kind of cool in fact
ZKK ROUND 2
Wld be the worst thing

Thereâs just no room for them atp imo. Weâre moving too fast. Like idek if I was fully expecting to have Imu in the flesh here on Elbaf but here we are
He gets to participate in the great war that he wanted to start, he gets to acknowledge the Joyboy that he was seeking or maybe he doesnt, thats also fine. I dont mind either way.
Kaido and BM are gone, and I had actually partly become open to a potential BM return but now it really does feel too late
They break the balance because I still think Kaido and Mom individually are stronger than everyone not Imu
kaido has too much gravity, hed have to be at the center of things. It wouldnt make sense otherwise. And kaido getting round 7 of focus leaving people waiting for their turn in the dust would be trash. Not to mention it was his goal to die in glorious battle to joyboy
MKK
Revived BM with homie Kaido will be the villain of the Heaven World trust
Not Zoro
!cook
Who?
kaido cant be fighting like vice admirals hes gotta be in the room with imu
Shit you right
Momonosuke
Yea it kinda seems weird
Is Kaido in the room with us now?
? But Warcury can solo him?
He can just fight Imu and die, thats light work for Mu
what is the point of that
Idk
actually no nevermind i gotta go i cant get into ti
Kaido is dead & gone, his story is over
But we dont need kaido
While we're at it Oda can revive Orochi and have Hiyori kill him if he wants to take a tally off his misogyny record
I am just saying that he can be in the same room as Imu
I dont think he will be though
I wanted to ragebait and have someone go "WARCURY CANT DO THAT"
Larp larp sahur pro max
I do kinda see a vision with BB, him establishing the Pirate Paradise Kingdom with pirates from all over the world
though its hard to see Kaido actually following him
One thing Artur did cook up with
And it was BB and Kaido teamup

Marineford
Hm
Kaido's definitely more likely to be dead than BM though, its way easier to see BM fitting into my Hachinosu War idea than Kaido
Hachinosu War will be a Davy Back Fight between the 4 Yonko
Whoever did it cooked anyway
With an interruption from Marine forces led by Coby
Peak
Kaido would never team up with the chud son of his idol
It looks so clean
I dont think we're getting another DBF tbh
i hope people look forward to the baking contest between luffy blackbeard and buggy
this man makes shitty fake panels the old fashioned way without AI
Omg and all the larpers are gonna be exposed
Que?
at the very least, it will be between two crews, not 4
"Davy Back Fight? Like from the Rocks flashback?"
If we get another Davy Back it should be between Buggy & Luffy or Shanks & Luffy
Four way Davy Back over Poneglyphs
BB will be making his campaign for world domination so he can change up the rules as he sees fit
And since Garp will be hostage and he'll be very strong, Luffy and Shanks will comply
Idk whats the motivation for Cross Guild tho. Poneglyphs?
battle of the bums
G5 Afro Luffy will be peak
Cross Guild vs SHs
Hachinosu arc is what I want most
Vira, Hachinosu, Laugh Tale
Vira hype vira hype vira hype
Yano
Hachinosu arc would be good but idt we're gonna get it
Yano will be covered in akainu's backstory
Iâm okay with One Piece lasting another two years if I get Hachinosu
Comparing Fanfic OP lore vs Canon OP lore really is a hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
She looks like all those oh ho ho ho girls in every high school anime
ricardo >>>>> gb
If anyone snails me youâre getting banned
translation notes for a comic written in english wtf are we doing
Lowkey true
Oh reacted with the wrong emoji oops
Arthur Piece GB is better than what we actually got
They use a japanese word
Cuz they're not gonna name her "Sea"
why is topman so fab?
t/n keikaku means plan
BroâŠ
Topman but bro is all legs
oh, that's peter's leg
Yea
He wanted to be on top so badly he extended his legs
His moustache is great though so theres that
that inhale is stronger than a boro blast btw
unfortunate W
not that that means much
olé!
Kaido > Etemon tbh
The general idea of my Hachinosu War is this:
Blackbeard will put up Garp for execution to force the WG to accept his deal and present it to the world of pirates as the beginning of the end of the WG and the Marines' supremacy. Its all gonna go down in the paradise of pirates, Hachinosu, and I think this is meant to be New World's Impel Down and Marineford. Luffy will lead the opposing side as WB did and actually succeed in saving a loved one this time, he'll be accompanied by all the allied pirate crews and his Grand Fleet. Meanwhile, Koby is gonna be part of a Marine group trying to prevent the execution at the same time, could say that he's playing the role that Luffy did pre ts. He'll team up with Smoker, Law and Sword for this.
Cross Guild will be on BB's side and RHP will be on Luffy's, thats how you get your Yonko war.
It was
Ricardo was supposed to be canon but Oda changed his mind on what Greenbull was supposed to be
also youre not ready for the real GB
Ricardo is basically Oden lol
But its got an ice breath
Yamato mainly mimics Kaido
Bad take
he's a more interesting GB
Im kiddinâ
Variety is good
Kaidoâs fruit is almost one of one
Ricardo is just a misguided attempt from Artur to force a Sanji matchup with him
heâs fun
Ricardo is more fun tho
Wait is Ricardo just a fanfic GB?
Yes
heâs the original
Wait what's the difference lol
i remember for a worldbuilding class I took we had to do an essay on fanfic and i did artur's comic
Snail
TAKE THE L
Really fucking funny that the fandom was gaslit into think greenballs was a good guy and in his first appearance hes a super nazi
SNAIL SNAIL SNAIL
He unfortunately didnt see the vision on the Gorosei matchups, because he's terrible at this
he's still a good guy
wait that looks bad
Huh
I mean he's SECRETLY still a good guy
itâs so sad weâll never get greased up topman in the manga
FUCK
Icl bro jesus
celestial dragon throat goat

artur was a visionary
I was waiting for this
Arsal
MEH
How did this man come to glaze the Celestial Dragons like that

Insane
its true
Oh be quiet. Iâd ban you for baiting if I didnât know you were actually this delusional
why the fuck are y'all averse to just him being a pathetic extremist simp
I am very serious
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Imagine not wanting variety
WYM YALL BRO
actually I am not the only one who believes this but still
Its ARSAL
Y'all said Ricardo better or secretly a good guy or w/e
sharon being on your side with that it's not a good look
Dude is the most straightforward evil marine weâve seen basically outside of maybe others like Onigumo etc..
they want every single character to be secretly good
have we considered saturn was secretly good
lemme repost 1s
the seeds are there
Donât think the former has to do with that, Ricardo was more of a fun character the way I see it
Evil Rocks is still here
Thatâs why Imu had to kill him

hereâs how evil rocks is still possible
Ricardo was still samey
I can't wait for wholesome chungus Davy Jones
mars might be secretly good
Hereâs how evil Luffy is still on the table
heâs the gorosei of the environment after all
Monkey d pao was evil
We need more characters like Aramaki and Sommers
does oda want to say environmentalists are EVIL
we could all use more sommers in our lives
Sommers is more fun than GB and I dont like that
There can only be one sommers
What if sommers and GB were best buds
That is super sommers
Sommers is sadism meme
Inserts the machamp img
GB is just meant to be pathetic. He comes off as pathetic
GB is just "u have no rights"
he has never been given a seat, the Gorosei side line for some reason
They do feel similar
There can be nuance without having "muh secretly good guy"
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Both are dramatic
How super sommers feels
i hope we get a greenbull backstory
Maybe theyre best buds
POKEMON TOPIC TIME

Im sure GBâs ideology is misplaced but it doesnât change the fact hes a bad person
What team is imu using
very curious what made him so supportive of classism when it doesnât seem like he had a rich birth
How super is Super Sommers
Arsal is not gonna cook btw
have you seen the current state of us
He has cooked well these last few weeks
x50 boost
Like the super monkey
goda
Alakazam is going to be one of them fs
Dolfius you are a murican?
Arsal is currently here to present a theory of GB secretly being a good guy
Imu uses xerneas for flower field
Yeah his first time not cooking in this year
So you know 67 but not underrated
nowhere near tame franky
There are a few things supporting this:
- Greenbull acted very friendly with Fujitora in their one private conversation that we saw, indicating that theyre obviously very good friends but in public they decided to suddenly fight to the point that it allowed the Revos to get away with freeing the slaves. In his internal monologue he was straight up annoyed at a Celestial Dragon for being present there while he was fighting the Revos, which wouldnt fit his bootlicking persona at all.
- There's an SBS theory that Oda received before Aramaki was introduced where the reader speculated that insert big theory is proof of Greenbull and Fujitora eventually working against the WG, Oda went all "ahhh no way, I'm not explaining anything" in the answer.
- About the Wano thing, he helped save their barren dead land as soon as he got there (not unintentionally btw, you can turn off your logia) and his harsh and cruel words and actions against the samurai very well could be recontextualized as warnings to them about the kind of world they are going to be opening themselves up to with the absence of Kaido. It doesn't mean that he agrees with how the world is, he's just telling them that thats how the world currently is.
Six seveeeen
Omg number 3 is a shitpost right đ đ
no
Dolfi /s is serious btw
i thought it stood for shitting
Its not a shitpost, I am saying that Greenbull acted that way to warn them
Itâs about salience and optics ig
Lowkey might be one of the most insane takes Iâve heard in a while
TRUE
Idk normal take
Your evidence are of value
can those 3 ppl speak up
I can't refute it Arsal
Sheâs bestie
I plain just don't like that outcome
I feel like that's possible
I like variety in my characters
But that's all lol
and Sommers and Aramaki arr these varieties
- Gave free liposuction to everyone
Ill take it into consideration
I understand that, you dont necessarily have to like it in the story
We need more of GB
I am just pointing out the evidence
greenbull pulling turncoat would be jokes, but i dont think it'd be a good idea
GB is just an Akainu simp
Where's the goddamn variety when that happens
sommers is my fav HK just because of how bat shit insane sadistic hr is
Fujitora vs GB will be a proper fight during the war. Not some semi-offscreen scuffle that we got. I feel like if anything they are being way more intentionally contrasted to the point of an inevitable battle of ideals rather than any secret good will
What if Akainu is turning too
fujitora is pretty explicitly set up to be the good admiral while greenbull is the bad one
I am sure there's going to be more horrible marines, but I am okay with letting go of just one in Greenbull
Oda literally created these two new characters at the same time to directly oppose each other IMO (in my opinion)
and yet they were friends
What this guy said^
how does that work!
Fuji is a bad guy turned good meanwhile GB is a good guy turned bad
The government dog will stay a government dog
Wano whose vegetation was all destroyed by Industrialist Kaido being given those vegetation again is cool ngl
Judging from the SBS
Dogs can be good
I would consider you my friend yet you are the antithesis to everything I stand for
Checkmate
Good at playing fetch the lobster for CDs
What if Fujitoria is the real end villain and Akainu and GB are heroes
their only private conversation is about as friendly as the conversations that I have had with my best friends
It's all about salience and optics ig
were
anything else is part of the persona
FACTS
They can be friends and have different ideologies, GB speaks to himself and says he likes how Akainu does things
also fujitora is evil too
#games bro smh
Fujitora does not like how Akainu does things
Thats why he does things his own way
Oda literally created an identical copy of Shanks just to accommodate an evil shanks storyline
Cuz he wants Akainu to be even ruthless fr
he's that committed to the gimmick, also he was with the pirates
he was saying that out loud
Dude
Ok lets be serious for a second
Do you guys think at this point Oda would really recontextualize a character we all thought was bad but is actually good? Not in secrecy mind you, just with new info.
so called Celestial bootlicker
Friends that have conflicting ideologies and inevitably clash over them has never happened in any story ever
Nope
thinking ''fuck off'' in his internal monologues lol
No
Yeah, I feel like that'd be a more belieavable theory if he hadn't outright spoken about liking Akainu's ways lol
And he spoke without anyone around. Just to himself.
This is after draining the pirates to be unconscious
Hes got nothing to worry about
he's standing in a prison with people all around him lol, thats not all alone, not even close
They are all put down
Is there a break i just realized
that doesnt mean they are not listening
Wait I just realized
He's a forest man yet he smokes
A straight up reach
Shon
to be fair, 80% of anime characters do that
also Oda has done the opposite atleast, with Pudding
well all the traitors really
Yes it does, why would he think theyâd still be listening
Yeah
Its either monologue or narrator
Take your poison
but Pudding stands out because she was also extremely committed to her good gimmick too
Yeah, but he's putting on an act for himself? That doesn't make sense.
Pudding was introduced with her gimmick
If the guys he defeated were still up I'd be more willing to believe that.
And it was relevant to immediately helping the strawhats
That being said, I'm not fully disregarding the idea. It's possible.
Combine mashimas endurance with odas talent and you have the greatest story ever told
and this is Greenbull's proper introduction
Pudding was actually introduced with her true nature apparent too btw, during FMI when she was hanging around with BM
a lot of characters do stuff that doesn't make sense. like lucci going into detail and explaining how cp9 is a secret organisation every time someone gets eyecontact
that was her GB silhouette moment basically
which I still find hilarious to this day
The context isnât even remotely the same
Greenbull is saying this, not to help anyone at all nor is it particularly relevant
Hes just talking to himself
Its the impression thatâs completely raw
And defining of his character
again I dont think everyone was knocked out lol, Udon's filled with people and prisoners
As I said, reach
he only took out a few of them
If Kuro was in CP9 he'd do this too and Oda would tell us to believe he's the smartest person in his quadrant of the planet
I mean
And the entirety of udon got busted up
He's explaining it to someone
Anyways GB is truly nationalist if that was in contention
He attacked everyone there
It is true he was annoyed by the CD's
ricardo is so cool
But its moreso like he respects the dominating system, not like the individual




