#also-manga

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ashen perch
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Bartolomeo believes in Luffy because he believes a higher power saved him

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It's not going to be Dragon who did that

stone terrace
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If he shows any obvious bias thatd be bad

ashen perch
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I dunno, Greg says a lot of things that should be grounds for a firing

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He's still doing fine

stone terrace
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Greg doesnt really have an impact on the reading experience though

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Stephen has insane power over the narratives that can be spun

ashen perch
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He's writing for the official website, his analysis is read by any JP fans that use the site (and there are thousands)

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Its not to the same scale but still

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He straight up slanders the author many times lol, it's not really an issue to them I imagine

pulsar path
ashen perch
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Also yeah, pre Stephen Paul Viz has this issue so much

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Its straight up incomprehensible at times, because they wanted it to sound a certain way

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Ignoring how anything's worded in the original, ignoring the emphasis points that Oda uses for specific phrases or terms, ignoring the possible original intent

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Oh and thats not even getting into how ugly it looked till like Skypiea, the ugly fonts for the typesetting, the big ass SFX covering up the artwork

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Viz NEEDS to do a new version at some point

warm sierra
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VIZ Peace đŸ”„

pulsar path
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Yeah but have you read the shounen jump monthly translation ?

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USA. Versions?

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No zolo for like 25 chapters LETSBUGGINGGO LETSBUGGINGGO

ashen perch
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I think I have seen a few pages, that too is the same pre Stephen Paul Viz, riddled with the same mistakes

runic dock
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If only I kept them


ashen perch
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They didn't do Zolo? Wow, I guess they could get away with it lol

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It wasn't a volume release

pulsar path
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They are my one-piece WAKAINU

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Yeah they changed it by the time the anime started airing sadly

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But we got some Zoro

runic dock
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I read the same syrup village chapter 100 times in a row due to those monthly magazines

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Maybe that’s why I don’t hate the arc

pulsar path
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Me too 😭 and same lmao

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Chapter 1 had me hooked but like man

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As I kid I was like where is shanks! Luffys a pirate now!!!

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Also I have issue 3 still in wrapping LETSBUGGINGGO

stone terrace
pulsar path
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Yeah lmao 😂

ashen perch
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kid you was a speedreader I'm afraid, the promise was about Luffy becoming a great pirate

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Not just any old pirate

stone terrace
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That happened too and shanks ducked

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Smh

ashen perch
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Is he actually called a great pirate now, I forgot

stone terrace
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No

ashen perch
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Okay yeah then its still not time

urban lodge
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What the fuck is Shanks' definition of a great pirate

stone terrace
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I dont see any point in time where luffy is ginna be called a great pirate

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Hes a yonko now and the next step is pirate king

ashen perch
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Its a specific term for the best of the best pirates

pulsar path
ashen perch
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Kaido, Shanks, WB, BM and Roger are the only ones who were called Great Pirates - Dai Kaizoku

fallen meteor
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This is so funny why did the chat ignore it

pulsar path
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No

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Like shanks was the comparisons

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Luffy was on shanks level if you just read chapter 1 other than just not having a crew

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Just saying. That was the 13 year old interpretation

fallen meteor
ashen perch
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Wait lemme see if Luffy's called a great pirate or not rq

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I feel like he has

pulsar path
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Didn't rayleigh say it or something lol

ashen perch
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I think maybe it was Gaban

warm sierra
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cant have luffy be called a great pirate after 30 years, thats too soon

stone terrace
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Bro led the most influential event in the last 24 years but thats not great enough 😭

pulsar path
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Yeah not great enough man

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Hasn't returned the hat

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First off

latent hamlet
ashen perch
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Okay yeah

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He's called a great pirate by Dorry and Brogy

warm sierra
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Luffy returning the hat before the series ends and it just going on without him having it would be really funny

ashen perch
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So Luffy can meet Shanks now, thats cool

latent hamlet
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Kaido gets called Monster

ashen perch
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No they're calling both monsters

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TCB used the plural atleast, maybe Stephen hates Big Mom

warm sierra
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hard to tell without raws

latent hamlet
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Big mom hate would not be surprising

hardy stratus
stone terrace
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Should we bother feeso

warm sierra
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can be, yeah

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I can tell if I see it

hardy stratus
ashen perch
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Unfortunately the raws site got nuked so I can't get it

ashen perch
hardy stratus
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I mean yea obv but why elbaph

ashen perch
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oh I didn't mean literally now

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But he can because he's a great pirate now

final trench
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Yea i think they’ll meet at the end of the arc

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Have a quick “fight”

ashen perch
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I think Oda might be avoiding it for the overlooked part of the promise though, which is Luffy telling him that he'll surpass him and his crew will also surpass his crew. Neither has happened yet

latent hamlet
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Shanks: not great enough. U need to find the one piece beat imu and blackbeard and then beat me in a 1v1 on east blue during sunset in front of Makino

ashen perch
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Maybe once Elbaf ends though

latent hamlet
warm sierra
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which chapter is this? I bought a lot of digital weekly jump in Japanese last year

ashen perch
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1135

final trench
stone terrace
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We're getting dripfed shanks lore

final trench
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Or its serious , and thats the “flashy ending” oda was talking about

mint creek
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goes with a bang

hasty sable
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Does Luffy surpass Shanks’ crew by fighting him or does he surpass them by beating Blackbeard after they lose to him

ashen perch
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Latter

stone terrace
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But shanks has to die when he fights bb

wraith mantle
stone terrace
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Im fine with shanks and luffy never meeting though

wraith mantle
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Thoughts?

ashen perch
wraith mantle
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Yeah kinda crazy

urban lodge
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Who cares what the only Sengoku fan in existence thinks

ashen perch
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"he ate an apple" ass criticism

stone terrace
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I dont particularly like reading it but it makes sense so i cant really complain

hasty sable
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Blackbeard vs Shanks going to be some hype weeks

hardy stratus
wraith mantle
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Bold of you to assume it won’t be offscreened

hasty sable
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Never

ashen perch
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It won't be

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Maybe parts of it though, that'd ofc make sense

hasty sable
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The most pirate of pirates fights

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Shanks vs Blackbeard in Vira arc

ashen perch
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There will be a fakeout

mint creek
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shanks gonna be armless at the end

ashen perch
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Shanks will go missing for a whiiiile

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But he's going to be fine

hardy stratus
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What were the four gods again

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Sun, rain, forest

ashen perch
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Rain, Forest, Earth and Sun

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Sea from the Mural

warm sierra
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Yeah its ambiguous "ano (that/those) kaibutsu (monster(s)) "Kaidou" to "Biggu - Mammu""

dapper tree
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We got 8 gods total so far

ashen perch
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Sword from Wano and War from Elbaf too I guess

dapper tree
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9

ashen perch
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Wait who were the others

formal wagon
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who are the other 5

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oh usopp?

dapper tree
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The ancient weapons are named after Gods

ashen perch
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Other 2

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Oh right right

warm sierra
ashen perch
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That's in the brackets right?

formal wagon
mint creek
dapper tree
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Plus elbaf and wano god

warm sierra
formal wagon
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whos the elbaf god?

ashen perch
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Ah

ashen perch
stone terrace
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Elbaf

formal wagon
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huh

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i think i missed something

warm sierra
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My personal read is that the monster is said with respect to Kaido not Big Mom personally

formal wagon
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when did they call elbaf a god

stone terrace
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It goes all the way back to little garden

ashen perch
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Elbaf's god is the God of War that transforms into Nidhoggr, The God of War was called Elbaf by Dorry in Little Garden

warm sierra
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Dorry and Brogy wouldnt really be that clued in on what BM did on Elbaf right?

ashen perch
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They would

formal wagon
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oh okay i think my mind just selective memoried the prophecy slop

ashen perch
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They were brought upto speed on everything, I think they mentioned that

dapper tree
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I forgot wano had a god

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Do we have a panel or reference for that

ashen perch
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Sword God is Ryuma

dapper tree
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AH

formal wagon
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oh its just ryuma

dapper tree
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Alright

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Fake god

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Lmao

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Jk

ashen perch
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Real

formal wagon
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tbh its pretty clear these gods are just chudboys crew

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fucking robot god emeth

hardy stratus
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💀

mint creek
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so the list goes on

formal wagon
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oh shit new day new theory, my bad

ashen perch
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I mean they're obviously not like real divine beings or whatever

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Ryuma is no less than any other god

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Because their origins will all be ultimately human at the end of the day

hardy stratus
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Meh

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well not so meh

ashen perch
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Ryuma is a superhuman swordsman, just like any of the other gods will be superhumans

cold steppe
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My prediction is that gods did exist. But the devil fruit users based on gods are not ones

formal wagon
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Bjorn is betraying elbaf to become a celestial dragon

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fuck i made it my default pfp

ashen perch
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I think the only god that has a strong chance of being actually divine is the Mother Sea

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The others are going to be just... People

formal wagon
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i hope zaza is vander decken I

formal wagon
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that'd be a cool twist

hardy stratus
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and its from mailbox

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The times are changing...

stone terrace
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Superhuman loses meaning here

ashen perch
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I dunno, its the only being that feels a little too powerful

stone terrace
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Characters have been that since baratie

formal wagon
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meowban bros are superhuman

ashen perch
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Well there's levels to it

formal wagon
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💀 superhuman +

hardy stratus
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Gods being like superhuman among superhuman is like the most common trope anyway...

ashen perch
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I guess metahuman would be a better word

formal wagon
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that word makes me think of CW's the flash

ashen perch
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That's how I'm imagining it, but I didn't want to make a DC reference

hardy stratus
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Normal people whose abilities either had them transcended to another form

ashen perch
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Its a world of humans

hardy stratus
hardy stratus
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I want there being some good point made for godhood

latent hamlet
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God-like

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Divine

hardy stratus
formal wagon
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I think the potential that there was a method in the first or second world to gain immortality (hopefully its the rocs from the one shot) keeps growing, we keep seeing long lived creatures have the imu mihawk zunesha biblo eye pattern

dapper tree
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Ryuma the only god so far not from the void century or before right?

ashen perch
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Well I do think it was their actions that made the specific 10 or less stand out

dapper tree
pulsar path
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Dead ass

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Hes about to find the space god

hardy stratus
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MEH

ashen perch
dapper tree
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Enel will become the space God

latent hamlet
formal wagon
dapper tree
golden valley
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Space God Enel, hmmm

ashen perch
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Aliens is another good idea, to a regular person, anything that is foreign can seem divine

pulsar path
golden valley
pulsar path
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Ie both Vivi and dragon have been blessed by zaza as there unofficial zaza knights

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Bringers of storms

formal wagon
pulsar path
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We don't know I guess

ashen perch
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Ryuma is definitely not from the Void Century, because Onimaru noted that he fought and pushed back Celestial Dragons that came after Wano. CDs weren't a thing until after the Void Century

formal wagon
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its editor content i think so its blurry ground like the vivre cards

golden valley
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Lemme find the 400 year statement

ashen perch
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It was from OP magazine yeah, but you don't even have to worry about that

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Oda's own written dialogue made it clear that he fought the Celestial Dragons

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I imagine Nusjuro might know a thing or two about that!

dapper tree
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Nusjuro is mid and fought a slightly strong dude

ashen perch
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You know, Venus is called the "Planet of Gold" in Japanese, he's also the Warrior God of Finance

dapper tree
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Called him a god after

formal wagon
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oda might have his cake and eat it too w/ toki's fruit

pulsar path
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Ahh I forgot all the gorsei call them selfs gods

formal wagon
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concerning ryuma

hardy stratus
latent hamlet
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Wait hold up
Nusjuro is the finance god

How much money did he spend on his sword

formal wagon
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they're hella poor for that name

ashen perch
latent hamlet
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Cuz sword?

formal wagon
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i didnt see a drop of gold

ashen perch
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He was the one that came after Wano, 400 years ago

ashen perch
golden valley
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Ryuma bodied him fo sure

ashen perch
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No he didn't

golden valley
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He did

ashen perch
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But he definitely didn't win, yeah

hardy stratus
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fair

pulsar path
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Ie wano is rich in resources not just gold

ashen perch
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I imagine it was an equal clash

dapper tree
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Nusjuro got his ass kicked by ryuma so hard he stole ryuma's whole fit

golden valley
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Equal for 2 secs

ashen perch
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You're not ready for Nusjuro I'm afraid

tall ocean
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Who did yall voted

dapper tree
golden valley
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Im rdy for nusjuro, you are not ready for ryuma

hardy stratus
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Both good

golden valley
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Ryuma >> Roger or any old gen

hardy stratus
formal wagon
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i've given up on carrot

ashen perch
formal wagon
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its carrotover

golden valley
tall ocean
frigid gulch
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Carrot Ognib

ashen perch
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I think Nusjuros gonna be the strongest or 2nd strongest swordsman ever with Omen

tall ocean
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Btw speaking of blackbeard, there's a guy on the internet named Minji and his laugh is so similar to Teach.

ashen perch
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Depends on where exactly he places in Zoro's opponents

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If he's the last, he's the strongest. If he's not, he's the 2nd strongest.

golden valley
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With omen

dapper tree
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BRUH

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I now see the gorosei as not jobbers

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With an omen buff

ashen perch
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Omen is a tool with which Oda can logically make Nusjuro stronger than Mihawk even

dapper tree
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Now I see them as a potential threat

ashen perch
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But it just depends on when he comes

stone terrace
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Mars with omen is gonna be ridiculous

ashen perch
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Gorosei were never jobbers

golden valley
ashen perch
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Nusjuro cut an island in half with one slash

stone terrace
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Because he can fly

ashen perch
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Nobody's even done that yet

frigid gulch
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That’s cap

ashen perch
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Well, I know you're about to say Law

golden valley
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Mihawk essentially did

frigid gulch
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The tsunami wave is huge

golden valley
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So did S-Hawk

frigid gulch
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And Rocks kinda did too

ashen perch
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Oh the iceburg was nothing

frigid gulch
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Lies

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lol

hardy stratus
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I think I would like all gorosei other than Garling and Nusjuro to be jobber without Imu

golden valley
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It was bigger than marineford

frigid gulch
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It was massive

hardy stratus
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And Garling not that high either

ashen perch
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it wasn't island sized, you're selling Mihawk short by even noting that as a relevant feat. It was maybe 4x the size of the Moby Dick

distant vine
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I wonder if Oda would ever put out a "definitive edition" manga like Dragon Ball's kanzenban

hardy stratus
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Just Nusjuro at top

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please don't

frigid gulch
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Lying again

golden valley
frigid gulch
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For what

golden valley
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They vary

frigid gulch
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It was absolutely massive

stone terrace
ashen perch
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Sure yeah, but Egghead was a massive island

stone terrace
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Shueisha will milk the cow for all its got

golden valley
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And it was more than 4x moby dick

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By far

stone terrace
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We dont need to worry about that

thick mango
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Y'all are arguing which gorosei is the top man when oda just tells us

frigid gulch
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Its peak seemed decently taller than Marineford

ashen perch
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It's not topman, he's top 3 though

frigid gulch
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And it was as wide as the island

dense reef
frigid gulch
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Mihawk cut it horizontally

golden valley
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It was bigger than the island in everything

scenic dirge
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The strongest gorse is whichever one the strongest character ends up defeating

golden valley
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Egghead is bigger though

scenic dirge
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Gorosei lol*

scenic dirge
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Why would it autocorrect to gorse I didn’t even know that was a word

dapper tree
ashen perch
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It doesn't count

golden valley
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Puncture Wille is the most underrated feat in the series

scenic dirge
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Law’s a bitch tho

ashen perch
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Its Law

scenic dirge
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That’s my counter argument

urban lodge
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Law is a filthy cheater

scenic dirge
formal wagon
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at least he doesn't rely on bullshit like haki

golden valley
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sheesh evan

scenic dirge
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That whole fight was peak and the only downside was that it wasn’t longer

hardy stratus
strong wadi
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Is anyone a bigger cheater than Luffy though

golden valley
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sounding like an unc

frigid gulch
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Idk how Egghead compares to MF but he cut the cloud

hardy stratus
frigid gulch
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Which seems smaller than the entire island

scenic dirge
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BM fight should have been 2 more chapters

frigid gulch
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But yea it’s prob top 2 sword feats

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Rocks kinda too ig ?

distant vine
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😭

scenic dirge
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Amputate doesn’t really count lol

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It’s magic

distant vine
golden valley
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He would feel it

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For sure

distant vine
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Yeah man Law cant do anything vs G5 sure LMAO

ashen perch
stone terrace
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Law isnt hitting that shit on anyone competent lets be fr

ashen perch
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its not anything crazy compared to what Nusjuro did

stone terrace
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Way too much setup needed

scenic dirge
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Tbf, Law only really landed that attack on BM because Kid was able to knock her down and give him an opening

golden valley
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Well..thts def never landing but if it ever did, G5 would feel it

frigid gulch
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That’s not to scale lol

golden valley
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Thats a perspective shot

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Its dwafing the ships from a distance

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The result wouldn’t be 4x

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It would be dozens

ashen perch
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The ships are standing right in front of it lol

frigid gulch
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Luffy and co. arrive on one and it looks tiny

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Compared to it

golden valley
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Its a distance shot, the tsunami is dwafing it from a distance

frigid gulch
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Not to mention

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He cut it horizontally

golden valley
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The pieces alone are ship sized

frigid gulch
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It’s as wide as the island

golden valley
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It cant possibly be 4x bigger

ashen perch
stone terrace
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All of the big 3's ults (bleh even calling it this) are not practical tbh

frigid gulch
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Then you’re still wrong

stone terrace
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Not in a 1v1 that is

ashen perch
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The cut is like 5-6 ships wide

grand flower
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It was bigger than Marineford cause the wave was

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Taller and wider

golden valley
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Even when fragmented

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It dwarfed the ships

grand flower
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The only relevant panel is when Whitebeard summoned the waves

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We see how big they are then

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And Mihawk cuts it from like miles away

frigid gulch
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Kuzan pretty much instantly froze them too

grand flower
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And flying slashes lose power as they travel

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Actually insane feat

grand flower
ashen perch
grand flower
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Berg

hazy turret
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It’s about salience and optics ig

golden valley
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6 ships wide 💔

frigid gulch
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You don’t see the end

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On the left

stone terrace
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Its about salience and optics

frigid gulch
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Plus other panels show it more as wide as it

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And it also makes sense

ashen perch
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Oh I guess, where did the iceburg even fal after the cutl, cant find it

golden valley
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It fell in the ocean

ashen perch
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Yeah but seeing it now, if it was that massive, I'm sure it'd fall on more than just a few ships

prisma yacht
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I was being cunty :gigglehearts:

golden valley
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The angle at which it falls and is destroyed isn’t going to reach all the ships

grand flower
ashen perch
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The damage it causes is very little in comparison with its supposed size, which is also why I doubt its that big

native seal
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brother

golden valley
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Bruh

native seal
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sonion

grand flower
golden valley
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Because of the angle

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Its not collapsing over

ashen perch
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Island size iceburg just vanishes into the void?

golden valley
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The pieces are breaking at different angles

grand flower
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Definitely wider than Marineford

distant vine
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"I broke the gear!" is still one of my favorite speeches

native seal
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marineford paneling is so sweet

golden valley
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And falls in different directions

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It does not fall face flat

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This is not an argument

distant vine
ashen perch
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I dunno, I really just doubt that no one would note its size if it was meant to be a notable feat

golden valley
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hasty sable
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Sengoku shaved a decade off his life from stress during the paramount war

ashen perch
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Also I've seen the WB panel, I don't think Mihawk cut that ENTIRE THING

golden valley
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We have eyes dude

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What are we doing

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All we need is eyes

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Its bigger than an Island

frigid gulch
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Yes he did bro

ashen perch
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I'm seeing with my eyes the ships that Oda placed in front of it for scale

frigid gulch
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That never usually happens with these things

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It’s one solid cut

golden valley
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No you aren’t using your eyes very well there

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Because that’s perspective

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Thats a feat for the scale of the iceburg

golden valley
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The iceburg dwarfs the ships from a distance

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That tells you its scale

golden valley
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The panel you posted is not supporting anything, its going against it

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I literally posted it???

grand flower
grand flower
golden valley
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Guess not

grand flower
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Hey don’t give up

golden valley
prisma yacht
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There's a bird which looks like whitebeard

grand flower
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You still have a chance

red lagoon
prisma yacht
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Inca tern

ashen perch
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Nah I was skimming through Marineford right now, so I must've missed when you posted it lol

golden valley
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Ah

prisma yacht
grand flower
grand flower
golden valley
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57 isnt enough

prisma yacht
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For the empire

frigid gulch
hazy turret
grand flower
golden valley
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you right

ashen perch
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Tbh Nusjuros still bigger so

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It doesn't make any difference

grand flower
golden valley
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yeah nusjuro still is bigger to me

grand flower
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Venus did a Streussen level feat

frigid gulch
golden valley
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C-Cook?

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Hey wait

grand flower
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Cutting the labosphere is like cutting the chateau

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Mihawk did an island

golden valley
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Thats a pun

pulsar path
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Law

grand flower
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Venus did a 9/11

pulsar path
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Did a laboratory

grand flower
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Actually half a 9/11 cause he dropped only one tower

frigid gulch
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Law’s wasn’t an island ye

pulsar path
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One of my favorite cut

ashen perch
golden valley
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Law’s was half an Island

grand flower
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Yeah Venus can hang with law and streussen

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Mihawk hanging with Moriah

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We cut islands over here

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Man I love powerscaling

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What an outrageous series of statements

ashen perch
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Whole cake chateau was not the Whole Cake Island

frigid gulch
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ROOM powers is still basically his swordsmanship tho

pulsar path
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Has Imu used a shield

grand flower
ashen perch
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Egghead's labosphere was actually island sized

grand flower
ashen perch
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It covered the whole island

pulsar path
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Shield!!

grand flower
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A sword made of Omen

pulsar path
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Sorry I miss spork

grand flower
pulsar path
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I misspsork

grand flower
pulsar path
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Has they used a shield lol

grand flower
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Imu blocked with Omen

ashen perch
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For some reason Discord's not working on my pc which is really annoying, gimme a bit

grand flower
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Formed it into like a barrier

pulsar path
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I really think he's the first worlds Nika 😔

golden valley
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If S-Hawk really wanted to

grand flower
golden valley
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He was bisecting Amazon Lily

frigid gulch
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S-Hawk was crazy too

golden valley
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Lowk think BB redirected it

frigid gulch
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He flung BB with that attack

iron oriole
grand flower
hasty sable
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Top 5 One Piece arcs go

Number 1: Long Ring Long Land

grand flower
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Elbaph is approaching it

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Then the rest

pulsar path
# grand flower That’s a really interesting idea

I can't shake the feeling, maybe not Imu but the devil? It's all really confusing to me but they have used the same weapons as Nika has been depicted, I can't remember if joy boy was shown with weapons but as far as we know he was a fisty cufts

hasty sable
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Egghead

thin quest
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#1: SkyPEAKia

grand flower
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Egghead is really damn good but I have other arcs on top of it

thin quest
grand flower
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Not many, but others

grand flower
hasty sable
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Skypiea đŸ”„

pulsar path
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The way he talks about nidhog and rat being a traitor makes me feel like it's the opposite and Imu betrayed them but how would he know them other than being first world

thin quest
pulsar path
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And the hair reminds me of Nika

pulsar path
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It's longer most the time than luffys and joy boys tho idk when we are seeing joy boy or Nika sometimes

golden valley
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Crazy how the seraphims

golden valley
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And S-Hawk WILL be a coc user

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S-Snake too

iron oriole
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I really want King to end up adopting them since they're technically lunarians too

frigid gulch
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Despite all that..

ashen perch
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Its the same size as the entire island

prisma yacht
hasty sable
distant vine
golden valley
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Its cuz


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Mihawk is
.

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Related to


frigid gulch
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Mihawk’s not that cold

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But idk

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Maybe Zoro’s experience was

hasty sable
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Lunarians are supposed to be on Nika’s side in the third world. Probably means the Seraphim are flipping.

golden valley
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Mihawk probably seems like someone who pretends to be human

frigid gulch
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Dragon is at the top of the command structure

golden valley
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Would Mihawk save a bunch of babies in a burning building

hasty sable
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Yea

iron oriole
golden valley
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Idk man

frigid gulch
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Good question idk

golden valley
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Would he

hasty sable
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He would yeah lol

golden valley
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Maybe to kill time

urban lodge
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I think he would

frigid gulch
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He did let the two crash at his place

prisma yacht
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Wld sip wine while watching them burn and scream

frigid gulch
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Also he saved Buggy

golden valley
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Didn’t he do that bc it’d benefit him or whatever

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I forgot the context

frigid gulch
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It did do that but it seems he felt pity for him

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Because he got betrayed

scenic dirge
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King raises the Seraphims EoS

frigid gulch
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King upscale

golden valley
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King outlived Kaido

frigid gulch
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King leading the Seraphim

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In the final war

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That’s something

ashen perch
golden valley
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If Kaido doesn’t die rn

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Hes dying final war

distant vine
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I think Mihawk would save the babiea

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If he's not busy

ashen perch
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well maybe King dies before him in the final war

thick mango
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i will be so upset if kaido is alive tbh thats the one thing idk if i can get past

golden valley
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No

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King will

thick mango
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big mom i also wouldnt like but kaido would be so much worse

golden valley
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Restart the lunarian race

hasty sable
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King orphanage cover story

golden valley
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King is a broken character

urban lodge
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Kaido coming back as an ally would be the funniest thing

ashen perch
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I dont mind Kaido being alive at all, it would be kind of cool in fact

golden valley
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Im not sure how it’d work

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Aint gon lie

distant vine
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ZKK ROUND 2

prisma yacht
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Wld be the worst thing

distant vine
scenic dirge
ashen perch
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He gets to participate in the great war that he wanted to start, he gets to acknowledge the Joyboy that he was seeking or maybe he doesnt, thats also fine. I dont mind either way.

scenic dirge
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Kaido and BM are gone, and I had actually partly become open to a potential BM return but now it really does feel too late

hasty sable
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They break the balance because I still think Kaido and Mom individually are stronger than everyone not Imu

thick mango
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kaido has too much gravity, hed have to be at the center of things. It wouldnt make sense otherwise. And kaido getting round 7 of focus leaving people waiting for their turn in the dust would be trash. Not to mention it was his goal to die in glorious battle to joyboy

ashen perch
frigid gulch
scenic dirge
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Oh shit

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You’re cooking

hasty sable
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!cook

distant vine
thick mango
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kaido cant be fighting like vice admirals hes gotta be in the room with imu

hasty sable
ashen perch
frigid gulch
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Yea it kinda seems weird

golden valley
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He would be in the room with Imu

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And he’d die

scenic dirge
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Is Kaido in the room with us now?

distant vine
ashen perch
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He can just fight Imu and die, thats light work for Mu

thick mango
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what is the point of that

golden valley
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Idk

thick mango
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actually no nevermind i gotta go i cant get into ti

iron oriole
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Kaido is dead & gone, his story is over

golden valley
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But we dont need kaido

distant vine
# ashen perch Momonosuke

While we're at it Oda can revive Orochi and have Hiyori kill him if he wants to take a tally off his misogyny record

ashen perch
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I am just saying that he can be in the same room as Imu

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I dont think he will be though

distant vine
prisma yacht
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Larp larp sahur pro max

ashen perch
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I do kinda see a vision with BB, him establishing the Pirate Paradise Kingdom with pirates from all over the world

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though its hard to see Kaido actually following him

golden valley
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One thing Artur did cook up with

distant vine
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What arc do OP fans larp liking the most

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Wano? Skypiea?

golden valley
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And it was BB and Kaido teamup

distant vine
ashen perch
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Marineford

prisma yacht
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Hm

ashen perch
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Kaido's definitely more likely to be dead than BM though, its way easier to see BM fitting into my Hachinosu War idea than Kaido

golden valley
distant vine
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Hachinosu War will be a Davy Back Fight between the 4 Yonko

golden valley
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Whoever did it cooked anyway

distant vine
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With an interruption from Marine forces led by Coby

hasty sable
urban lodge
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Kaido would never team up with the chud son of his idol

prisma yacht
ashen perch
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I dont think we're getting another DBF tbh

trim lily
blazing depot
# golden valley

this man makes shitty fake panels the old fashioned way without AI

distant vine
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Omg and all the larpers are gonna be exposed

ashen perch
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at the very least, it will be between two crews, not 4

distant vine
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"Davy Back Fight? Like from the Rocks flashback?"

prisma yacht
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Davy back fights like from the wano right

iron oriole
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If we get another Davy Back it should be between Buggy & Luffy or Shanks & Luffy

hasty sable
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Four way Davy Back over Poneglyphs

distant vine
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And since Garp will be hostage and he'll be very strong, Luffy and Shanks will comply

distant vine
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Idk whats the motivation for Cross Guild tho. Poneglyphs?

iron oriole
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G5 Afro Luffy will be peak

frigid gulch
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Cross Guild vs SHs

hasty sable
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Hachinosu arc is what I want most

hasty sable
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Pirate island arc

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Also Vira

prisma yacht
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It was money until buggys speech

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They definitely had a shift

hasty sable
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Vira, Hachinosu, Laugh Tale

prisma yacht
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Vira hype vira hype vira hype

urban lodge
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Yano

iron oriole
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Hachinosu arc would be good but idt we're gonna get it

prisma yacht
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Yano will be covered in akainu's backstory

hasty sable
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I’m okay with One Piece lasting another two years if I get Hachinosu

golden valley
#

Comparing Fanfic OP lore vs Canon OP lore really is a hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

trim lily
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artur piece clears

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oda could never write a character as good as ricardo

latent hamlet
scenic dirge
dense haven
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ricardo >>>>> gb

scenic dirge
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If anyone snails me you’re getting banned

blazing depot
scenic dirge
prisma yacht
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Oh reacted with the wrong emoji oops

scenic dirge
#

Arthur Piece GB is better than what we actually got

latent hamlet
rose rune
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why is topman so fab?

blazing depot
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t/n keikaku means plan

scenic dirge
iron oriole
scenic dirge
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Nvm

#

That looked off at first

rose rune
scenic dirge
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Yea

latent hamlet
iron oriole
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His moustache is great though so theres that

formal wagon
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that inhale is stronger than a boro blast btw

golden valley
formal wagon
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not that that means much

stone terrace
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Enough time has passed

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Yamatos fruit was kinda mid..

rose rune
frigid gulch
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Kaido > Etemon tbh

ashen perch
# ashen perch I do kinda see a vision with BB, him establishing the Pirate Paradise Kingdom wi...

The general idea of my Hachinosu War is this:

Blackbeard will put up Garp for execution to force the WG to accept his deal and present it to the world of pirates as the beginning of the end of the WG and the Marines' supremacy. Its all gonna go down in the paradise of pirates, Hachinosu, and I think this is meant to be New World's Impel Down and Marineford. Luffy will lead the opposing side as WB did and actually succeed in saving a loved one this time, he'll be accompanied by all the allied pirate crews and his Grand Fleet. Meanwhile, Koby is gonna be part of a Marine group trying to prevent the execution at the same time, could say that he's playing the role that Luffy did pre ts. He'll team up with Smoker, Law and Sword for this.

Cross Guild will be on BB's side and RHP will be on Luffy's, thats how you get your Yonko war.

golden valley
urban lodge
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Ricardo was supposed to be canon but Oda changed his mind on what Greenbull was supposed to be

ashen perch
hasty sable
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Ricardo is basically Oden lol

latent hamlet
frigid gulch
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Yamato mainly mimics Kaido

hardy stratus
hardy stratus
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he's a more interesting GB

frigid gulch
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But the fruit doesn’t help

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It’s ok

golden valley
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Im kiddin’

hardy stratus
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Variety is good

frigid gulch
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Kaido’s fruit is almost one of one

ashen perch
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Ricardo is just a misguided attempt from Artur to force a Sanji matchup with him

golden valley
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Canon GB is gonna be a better character

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Already is tbh

trim lily
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he’s fun

golden valley
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Ricardo is more fun tho

latent hamlet
#

Wait is Ricardo just a fanfic GB?

golden valley
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Yes

trim lily
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he’s the original

hot cairn
scenic dirge
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SNAIL

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HAHAHAHAHA

latent hamlet
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Wait what's the difference lol

blazing depot
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i remember for a worldbuilding class I took we had to do an essay on fanfic and i did artur's comic

golden valley
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Snail

scenic dirge
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TAKE THE L

stone terrace
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Really fucking funny that the fandom was gaslit into think greenballs was a good guy and in his first appearance hes a super nazi

scenic dirge
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SNAIL SNAIL SNAIL

ashen perch
ashen perch
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wait that looks bad

golden valley
#

Huh

ashen perch
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I mean he's SECRETLY still a good guy

trim lily
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it’s so sad we’ll never get greased up topman in the manga

hot cairn
prisma yacht
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Icl bro jesus

blazing depot
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celestial dragon throat goat

hot cairn
trim lily
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artur was a visionary

prisma yacht
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I was waiting for this

golden valley
hardy stratus
frigid gulch
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How did this man come to glaze the Celestial Dragons like that

frigid gulch
frigid gulch
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Insane

ashen perch
#

its true

scenic dirge
hardy stratus
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why the fuck are y'all averse to just him being a pathetic extremist simp

trim lily
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don’t bring us into this

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it’s just arsal

ashen perch
#

I am very serious

prisma yacht
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😭

hardy stratus
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Imagine not wanting variety

ashen perch
#

actually I am not the only one who believes this but still

golden valley
#

Its ARSAL

hardy stratus
hot cairn
scenic dirge
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Dude is the most straightforward evil marine we’ve seen basically outside of maybe others like Onigumo etc..

hot cairn
trim lily
#

have we considered saturn was secretly good

ashen perch
#

lemme repost 1s

trim lily
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the seeds are there

golden valley
frigid gulch
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Evil Rocks is still here

scenic dirge
frigid gulch
trim lily
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here’s how evil rocks is still possible

hardy stratus
#

Ricardo was still samey

urban lodge
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I can't wait for wholesome chungus Davy Jones

outer hound
scenic dirge
#

Here’s how evil Luffy is still on the table

trim lily
prisma yacht
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Monkey d pao was evil

hardy stratus
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We need more characters like Aramaki and Sommers

trim lily
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does oda want to say environmentalists are EVIL

scenic dirge
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Monkey d Pao lmfaoo

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What a goat

trim lily
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we could all use more sommers in our lives

golden valley
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Sommers is more fun than GB and I dont like that

prisma yacht
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There can only be one sommers

golden valley
#

What if sommers and GB were best buds

prisma yacht
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That is super sommers

latent hamlet
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Sommers is sadism meme

prisma yacht
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Inserts the machamp img

hardy stratus
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GB is just meant to be pathetic. He comes off as pathetic

latent hamlet
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GB is just "u have no rights"

outer hound
frigid gulch
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They do feel similar

hardy stratus
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There can be nuance without having "muh secretly good guy"

prisma yacht
outer hound
#

đŸ„č

frigid gulch
#

Both are dramatic

prisma yacht
trim lily
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i hope we get a greenbull backstory

frigid gulch
#

Maybe theyre best buds

latent hamlet
frigid gulch
golden valley
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Im sure GB’s ideology is misplaced but it doesn’t change the fact hes a bad person

latent hamlet
#

What team is imu using

trim lily
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very curious what made him so supportive of classism when it doesn’t seem like he had a rich birth

iron oriole
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How super is Super Sommers

golden valley
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Arsal is not gonna cook btw

dense haven
hardy stratus
latent hamlet
trim lily
prisma yacht
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Alakazam is going to be one of them fs

scenic dirge
hardy stratus
#

Dolfius you are a murican?

golden valley
#

Arsal is currently here to present a theory of GB secretly being a good guy

trim lily
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nope

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but i’m canadian so that’s basically american

latent hamlet
hardy stratus
golden valley
outer hound
ashen perch
#

There are a few things supporting this:

  1. Greenbull acted very friendly with Fujitora in their one private conversation that we saw, indicating that theyre obviously very good friends but in public they decided to suddenly fight to the point that it allowed the Revos to get away with freeing the slaves. In his internal monologue he was straight up annoyed at a Celestial Dragon for being present there while he was fighting the Revos, which wouldnt fit his bootlicking persona at all.
  2. There's an SBS theory that Oda received before Aramaki was introduced where the reader speculated that insert big theory is proof of Greenbull and Fujitora eventually working against the WG, Oda went all "ahhh no way, I'm not explaining anything" in the answer.
  3. About the Wano thing, he helped save their barren dead land as soon as he got there (not unintentionally btw, you can turn off your logia) and his harsh and cruel words and actions against the samurai very well could be recontextualized as warnings to them about the kind of world they are going to be opening themselves up to with the absence of Kaido. It doesn't mean that he agrees with how the world is, he's just telling them that thats how the world currently is.
scenic dirge
scenic dirge
ashen perch
#

no

prisma yacht
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Dolfi /s is serious btw

trim lily
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i thought it stood for shitting

ashen perch
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Its not a shitpost, I am saying that Greenbull acted that way to warn them

hazy turret
#

It’s about salience and optics ig

scenic dirge
#

Lowkey might be one of the most insane takes I’ve heard in a while

scenic dirge
hardy stratus
#

Idk normal take

ashen perch
#

theres atleast 3 people that agree with me

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well only one here, Shuron

hardy stratus
#

Your evidence are of value

golden valley
#

can those 3 ppl speak up

thick maple
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Hm you always see evan and rokaya chatting at the same time

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Susssy

hardy stratus
#

I can't refute it Arsal

scenic dirge
hardy stratus
#

I plain just don't like that outcome

sturdy steeple
#

I feel like that's possible

hardy stratus
#

I like variety in my characters

sturdy steeple
#

But that's all lol

hardy stratus
#

and Sommers and Aramaki arr these varieties

fallen meteor
final trench
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Ill take it into consideration

ashen perch
#

I understand that, you dont necessarily have to like it in the story

final trench
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We need more of GB

ashen perch
#

I am just pointing out the evidence

violet basin
#

greenbull pulling turncoat would be jokes, but i dont think it'd be a good idea

hardy stratus
#

It might make sense and like it would be good as well Arsal

#

but like

iron oriole
#

GB is just an Akainu simp

hardy stratus
#

Where's the goddamn variety when that happens

hardy stratus
#

sommers is my fav HK just because of how bat shit insane sadistic hr is

scenic dirge
#

Fujitora vs GB will be a proper fight during the war. Not some semi-offscreen scuffle that we got. I feel like if anything they are being way more intentionally contrasted to the point of an inevitable battle of ideals rather than any secret good will

fallen meteor
trim lily
#

fujitora is pretty explicitly set up to be the good admiral while greenbull is the bad one

ashen perch
#

I am sure there's going to be more horrible marines, but I am okay with letting go of just one in Greenbull

scenic dirge
#

Oda literally created these two new characters at the same time to directly oppose each other IMO (in my opinion)

ashen perch
#

how does that work!

sturdy steeple
#

Fuji is a bad guy turned good meanwhile GB is a good guy turned bad

iron oriole
hardy stratus
#

Wano whose vegetation was all destroyed by Industrialist Kaido being given those vegetation again is cool ngl

sturdy steeple
#

Judging from the SBS

fallen meteor
scenic dirge
#

Checkmate

iron oriole
fallen meteor
#

What if Fujitoria is the real end villain and Akainu and GB are heroes

ashen perch
#

their only private conversation is about as friendly as the conversations that I have had with my best friends

hardy stratus
trim lily
ashen perch
#

anything else is part of the persona

scenic dirge
golden valley
#

They can be friends and have different ideologies, GB speaks to himself and says he likes how Akainu does things

trim lily
#

also fujitora is evil too

fallen meteor
golden valley
#

Fujitora does not like how Akainu does things

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Thats why he does things his own way

scenic dirge
#

Oda literally created an identical copy of Shanks just to accommodate an evil shanks storyline

hardy stratus
ashen perch
#

he was saying that out loud

golden valley
#

Dude

fallen meteor
#

Ok lets be serious for a second
Do you guys think at this point Oda would really recontextualize a character we all thought was bad but is actually good? Not in secrecy mind you, just with new info.

ashen perch
#

so called Celestial bootlicker

scenic dirge
#

Friends that have conflicting ideologies and inevitably clash over them has never happened in any story ever

ashen perch
#

thinking ''fuck off'' in his internal monologues lol

sturdy steeple
#

Yeah, I feel like that'd be a more belieavable theory if he hadn't outright spoken about liking Akainu's ways lol

golden valley
sturdy steeple
#

And he spoke without anyone around. Just to himself.

golden valley
#

This is after draining the pirates to be unconscious

#

Hes got nothing to worry about

ashen perch
#

he's standing in a prison with people all around him lol, thats not all alone, not even close

golden valley
#

They are all put down

golden valley
#

Nothing puts him at risk

#

This is a reach

stone terrace
#

Is there a break i just realized

ashen perch
#

that doesnt mean they are not listening

latent hamlet
#

Wait I just realized
He's a forest man yet he smokes

golden valley
#

A straight up reach

final trench
#

Shon

rose rune
ashen perch
#

also Oda has done the opposite atleast, with Pudding

ashen perch
golden valley
wraith mantle
latent hamlet
#

Take your poison

ashen perch
#

but Pudding stands out because she was also extremely committed to her good gimmick too

sturdy steeple
golden valley
#

Pudding was introduced with her gimmick

sturdy steeple
#

If the guys he defeated were still up I'd be more willing to believe that.

golden valley
#

And it was relevant to immediately helping the strawhats

sturdy steeple
#

That being said, I'm not fully disregarding the idea. It's possible.

stone terrace
#

Combine mashimas endurance with odas talent and you have the greatest story ever told

ashen perch
#

Pudding was actually introduced with her true nature apparent too btw, during FMI when she was hanging around with BM

rose rune
ashen perch
#

that was her GB silhouette moment basically

rose rune
golden valley
#

Greenbull is saying this, not to help anyone at all nor is it particularly relevant

#

Hes just talking to himself

#

Its the impression that’s completely raw

#

And defining of his character

ashen perch
#

again I dont think everyone was knocked out lol, Udon's filled with people and prisoners

golden valley
#

As I said, reach

ashen perch
#

he only took out a few of them

golden valley
#

No several were left impaled

#

The pirates attacked

distant vine
golden valley
#

And the entirety of udon got busted up

sturdy steeple
#

He's explaining it to someone

distant vine
#

Anyways GB is truly nationalist if that was in contention

golden valley
#

He attacked everyone there

sturdy steeple
#

GB just talks to himself

distant vine
#

It is true he was annoyed by the CD's

golden valley
#

Like why is he preaching this

#

Alone

dense haven
#

ricardo is so cool

distant vine