also-manga

[prisma yacht]

Zetix,m

[rose rune]

noddy is old as fuck

[prisma yacht]

Amazing

[shadow knoll]

do the actors who used to act for power rangers watch their own shows now and cringe about it

[hardy stratus]

Tv channel that later became Disney xd

[prisma yacht]

Were you 2 when u were watching it?

Nah I don't remember no zetix

[rose rune]

the show I watched came out in 1992, so I was probably a year or two older

[pulsar path]

It's all messed up tbh

[prisma yacht]

Holy

I had no idea

[shadow knoll]

phineas and ferb

[pulsar path]

Yeah cartoons used to run years after

Not like today

[shadow knoll]

mmm

[pulsar path]

You need streaming services to watch old crap

[shadow knoll]

i just pirate shit now

[prisma yacht]

I see

[pulsar path]

So when you go you just say arrrrrrggggg

[pulsar path]

Ahh British no wonder I was confused

[shadow knoll]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bugs-life-a-bugs-life--k01KRHANM9XDSWY0CSQ9NHP7817

[pulsar path]

Well what else is a pirate shit!

[rose rune]

I used to have this on VHS. I loved it to death when I was 7 years old

[hardy stratus]

No one remembers galactic football ?

[prisma yacht]

argggg is when ur trying to get that last piece of turd out of ur buttocks

you say

arggggggg come on

[shadow knoll]

don't tell anyone but a few swedish people invented a way of illegally downloading copyrighted content back in the day and some of us still use it

[prisma yacht]

I remember supa strikas

Or some

[shadow knoll]

don't tell anyone though

[rose rune]

I am too old

[shadow knoll]

samurai jack

[hardy stratus]

Peak

[shadow knoll]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gooo-1--k01KRHB0GZYTVYTZ1EHRWK5PGQ1

[pulsar path]

Wtf man

Burn ai onepiecers

[shadow knoll]

maybe imu and joyboy were gay

who knows

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-derp-duh-gif-21500047

[rose rune]

I saw t-shirts with AI art yesterday

[dense marsh]

Why

[rose rune]

and it wasn't a cheap clothing store

[blazing depot]

im working as a web designer rn and there is so much ai slop on stock image sites

its insane

[dense marsh]

Then kill ai

[pulsar path]

That's fine lmao it's just people are making ai images a videos of it is like wow guys give it some time

[dense marsh]

Stab ai

Slay ai

[pulsar path]

Of them being. Friends I mean

[dense marsh]

Torture ai

Behead ai

[pulsar path]

The world is doooomed

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-wunkus-silly-cat-gif-15459501743584172385

[dense marsh]

Ai slop

[shadow knoll]

all you can do is report it

[prisma yacht]

It's real

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-garp-peak-punch-impact-gif-10940107907296540762

[shadow knoll]

wit piece animation...

man thinking abt it makes me giddy

[ashen perch]

another GOLD Usopp

[pulsar path]

Awww

[urban sluice]

my mom bought me an AI t-shirt I only wear it indoors 😭

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-oops-shocked-coffee-drop-gif-20149018

[brittle basin]

What if you didn't wear it at all?

and then berated your mom?

[urban sluice]

then I'd be mean

[rose rune]

Look at these ugly things

[brittle basin]

hell yeah you would!!!

let'sbugginggo

[urban sluice]

LMFAO 😭

who would buy this

[rose rune]

football fans who aren't interested in art

"oh look, it's Haaland"

"what a funny viking"

[brittle basin]

Look, if I had no choice but to wear an AI t-shirt, I at least want something ridiculous like the Titanic flying into the Twin Towers but also with Lebron James standing out front playing European football with Goku as if nothing bad is going on.

[rose rune]

I'd wear it if it was just some abstract art probably

like some colored squares or whatever

[urban sluice]

it just looks so bad

[brittle basin]

the average person probably doesn't care and/or notices

insert infamous George Carlin quote here

[rose rune]

yeah, it's horrible.
but what Buffy says is true

[blazing depot]

ai is inherently trashy so the subject of ai art being something trashy works to its benefit

like triple t

[brittle basin]

I could see that as a clever marketing strategy.

[final trench]

Tung tung tung 👀

[barren token]

Where's chaprer?

[brittle basin]

read a good story for once in your life cunk

no more mid piece

[final trench]

Facts we watching secret saturdays

[urban sluice]

I found the shirt

[brittle basin]

Tontatta Luffy

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hug-hugs-and-love-gif-23419430

[rose rune]

but yeah, if I was wearing something like this, I wouldn't even be able to tell it's AI

[brittle basin]

The world doesn't need two dragons. Wow what an IDIOT. He didn't even know about the dragon on Punk Hazard or Loki smh

[brittle basin]

that's probably much harder to notice I would assume

[final trench]

Luffy Jr

[rose rune]

exactly. so I would probably be fine with that... except the pic I found is kinda ugly

[brittle basin]

time to wear plain shirts 😔

[rose rune]

but if I found a good looking one, I probably wouldn't mind it

[rose rune]

I only have plain white t-shirts actually

and one a finnish friend of mine made with a satan cat

[brittle basin]

i have very few white shirts

[rose rune]

I went through all of my clothes and threw away tons of them, then I just bought a bunch of white ones

I wanted all of them to go into the same wash

sorting everything was a pain

[barren token]

One Piece os so fuxking good it makes me cry thinking about it

[fast pagoda]

We not ready for Don Krieg impact frames

[final trench]

Gold haki

[rose rune]

if you pause at the right moment, you can see krieg and pearl kissing

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/krieg-one-piece-one-piece-krieg-don-krieg-angry-gif-26181486

[formal wagon]

oda said in an interview that if krieg was on wano people might still be reading one piece

[hazy turret]

I Remember that i was there

[formal wagon]

oda said in an interview he owes me cash

when asked how much he said " that much "

[rose rune]

in an sbs Oda said that Krieg would have a bounty of 800 million if he got to the new world

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-parabéns-gif-18160950

[rose rune]

so he would be a bit stronger than Enel at 500 mill

[prisma yacht]

did he actually say that

[dapper tree]

No but that's a true statement

[prisma yacht]

if ur saying its truw

[rose rune]

half of it was true

[prisma yacht]

then its must be a lie

https://tenor.com/view/funny-meme-dr-pigeon-walk-koby-one-piece-gif-15028995157269485729

[rose rune]

you always gotta mix lies with truth

[prisma yacht]

essence of a true op fan

[runic dock]

Bro is literally meatwad from ATHF

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/meatwad-happy-tears-of-joy-smile-aqua-teen-hunger-force-gif-8940016382435242880

[prisma yacht]

must have been an angel by my side

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/lionel-richie-hello-is-it-me-you're-looking-for-telephone-phone-gif-10846142086093028953

[hasty sable]

Need Hachinosu arc for Don Krieg

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/koby-koby-op-one-piece-op-marine-gif-17356348738541159237

[formal wagon]

is that real

wtf happened to one piece

[prisma yacht]

korby day is gone yet no official art

[formal wagon]

why is koby so square???

[prisma yacht]

im so sad

[formal wagon]

has he been working out or something

[prisma yacht]

he was in roblox

[formal wagon]

he frame mogs luffy

[fast pagoda]

He ate the blox blox fruit

[dense reef]

Say that again

[formal wagon]

WOW so koby isn't a rokushitty hakifraud anymore? oda is seriously losing it

[prisma yacht]

does the staff hate koby

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[native cloud]

Nggaaaa! You good?

[runic dock]

It’s from the recent anime episodes

They’re going for a new style I like it

[fast pagoda]

Koby vs Alvida final saga

Who winning

[runic dock]

Alvida still

She powered up again

Could you imagine

1200 chapters of stagnation

[native cloud]

Bro who do see falling first Sommers or Killingham?

[runic dock]

My friend reacting to Sommers and killingham this chapter “lmao these guys are a joke no wonder they’re the first knights we see”

He meant like , in a real fight

[native cloud]

I don’t think the are stronger knights that them. I believe they are all equal

[prisma yacht]

this is what oda was preping us for

all along

[runic dock]

This is already not true

[rose rune]

killingham, since he's the sanji fight

[runic dock]

Some have CoC

Like for sure

These guys don’t

[rose rune]

oda always saves zoro for second to last

[native cloud]

Who’s stronger than Sommers?! Stabs

[runic dock]

Shamrock is for sure a CoC user , and he’s got a devil fruit weapon on top of PROBABLY his own fruit

Easily stronger than these clowns

[native cloud]

Lol

[prisma yacht]

so many cock users

[urban lodge]

Curse you Oda and your Figarland favoritism

[native cloud]

So amongst the Gorosei you basically believe there’s a hierarchy?

[runic dock]

In the gorosei too , Topman and Gandhi stand out

[prisma yacht]

garling tops all

[runic dock]

Gandhi because he’s the designated zoro opponent so will have tons of glaze attached , topman for not being scratched even by g5

[prisma yacht]

:v

[runic dock]

Not needing immortality

[native cloud]

Lol

[prisma yacht]

garling bcs he will surpass all the old bums

[native cloud]

Topman is the pig, right?

[runic dock]

Garling is also an unknown amount of strength and probably even stronger since he’s a figarland

[runic dock]

Yeah

[native cloud]

Warthog I mean lol

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-gorosei-five-elders-monster-gif-4821567711653794100

[native cloud]

Honestly I don’t like this guy

I believe he is a fraud

[runic dock]

Luffy could at least damage them for them to need immortality but he couldn’t even break through topman

[stone terrace]

Omen boosted garling

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-see-gif-27285915

[runic dock]

He is persistent tho

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-shock-gif-24438775

[fast pagoda]

Garling is a young newgen to the Gorosei

[native cloud]

He threw me off in godvalley

[prisma yacht]

evil souls are telling me to charge my laptop

i cant find my charger tho

[native cloud]

Mf couldn’t even fight fare and square

[prisma yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/854773231000223755.gif?v=1

[native cloud]

And he killed that celestial that protected Neptune’s daughter

[prisma yacht]

aura

.

[native cloud]

Nhaa he a twat

Garling is petty like kaido and his evil is sick and twisted like Doffy

[fast pagoda]

Kaido isnt really petty

[native cloud]

Bruh he is. People of Wano had no water, what do mean he wasn’t petty?

[fast pagoda]

Yeah hes just evil

[native cloud]

Lol

[graceful grove]

its in their blood.
fight Rogers? nah ill just kill a defenseless CD
fight Luffy? nah ill just stab a defenseless guy chained up to a tree
fight BB? nah ill just bully a defenseless fan of Luffy

[formal wagon]

luffy only wins because the villians know if they take him out zoro is next

they're pulling their punches

they're all hoping for their second in command (also stronger than them) to beat zoro, but they always fail

[native cloud]

I can’t wait for Zoro to slice up this guy like pizza

[fast pagoda]

Why zoro

Nusjuro is the most obvious zoro opponent ever

[prisma yacht]

he wont even fight zoro

i mean garling

[fast pagoda]

Its dragon vs garling

[prisma yacht]

garling kills dragon

chapter 1367

its destined

[native cloud]

I don’t think Dragon and Shanks make it to the final war.

[formal wagon]

what if next months bit is one piece facts

[prisma yacht]

wow

major deaths before the final war? i dont think so

[native cloud]

Think they played their part and it’s time for the next generation to handle things

[native cloud]

They won’t die

[fast pagoda]

Then whats the point

[native cloud]

I am not saying that

[graceful grove]

only way this comes true is Oda stops writing OP and AI takes over

[native cloud]

Lol

[inner agate]

Wow people are really scared of Dragon...

[fast pagoda]

Those 2 are like the characters I see most being at the final war

Almost like they've spent their whole lives preparing for a big battle

[graceful grove]

can't wait for him to take everyones breath away

[native cloud]

My only problem here is what are they going to do here moving forward after they’ve already done so much

[graceful grove]

brother Dragon have done nothing on screen

we waiting for him to dunk on everyone with his wind logia

[inner agate]

We don't know his ability and you think hes "done enough"

[native cloud]

Problem here is you guys wanna see these mfs spit the sky

[prisma yacht]

This is why dragon will be killed by garling

[inner agate]

They will learn.

[fast pagoda]

Shanks hasn't done that much right now except preserve the balance

[graceful grove]

ayo when did imu adopt perona?

[fast pagoda]

And dragon is only making major moves against mary geoise now

[prisma yacht]

The best place to showcase this will be during the final war

[native cloud]

That is pretty much everything

[fast pagoda]

And why wouldn't we

[iron oriole]

when Mihawk did

[graceful grove]

ah

[inner agate]

Perona is witerally a Nerona...

[prisma yacht]

#FatherSon

[inner agate]

Spiritually

[native cloud]

I hope you’re right lol

[inner agate]

What do u want then

How do you expect them to die before the final war

[fast pagoda]

Oda would not leave out his two most hyped characters in the big final war

[native cloud]

Shanks is not dying trust me

[iron oriole]

BB victim is a BB victim

[fast pagoda]

All the big final saga factions will be part of it

[graceful grove]

dragons final opponent can be Garp. putting him 6 feet under will be a massive win

[prisma yacht]

If they won't die before it , they obv won't sit back during the major outbreak

[native cloud]

Nhaa it’s Akainu

[fast pagoda]

So all 4 Emperor crews, the Revs, the Navy and WG

[inner agate]

same with usopp and yassop

[prisma yacht]

which they have been preping for year

[graceful grove]

thats all sabo

[fast pagoda]

Ew

[prisma yacht]

years

[fast pagoda]

Dragons final opponent better not be a marine

[iron oriole]

and the Kung fu Dugong

[warm falcon]

Pum xD yeah, i find this one too

[graceful grove]

my top 3 most anticipated fights/deaths

[prisma yacht]

I don't think garp is fighting anyone anymore

[warm falcon]

but its related to Alabasta arc

[native cloud]

You really think Sabo can take out that strong mf

[iron oriole]

Garp will kill Akainu, like he said back in MF trust

[fast pagoda]

Its dragon vs garling and Sabo vs shamrock

Shanks will go for blackbeard and/or imu directly

[native cloud]

Oda said that mf could end the story in a year.. you really wanna put Sabo against that

[inner agate]

BB is gonna wait for someone to try and save garp and then realise no one gaf and kill him off

[prisma yacht]

Are you not ready for akainu's redemption arc

[iron oriole]

there is no redemption for the government dog

[warm falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/karoo-karoo-one-piece-gif-14309065445578700735

the goat duck ostrich mentioned, Karoo

[native cloud]

Lol

[formal wagon]

top 3 most anticipated fights for me: Coby vs Coribou Buggy luffy rematch Shanks vs peakbeard

[graceful grove]

yes. Akainu is having some doubts now and his justice won't be as as strong during the fight. Sabo will jump at the right moment with his pipe

[formal wagon]

blackbeard

[fast pagoda]

That quote doesnt really mean anything

[inner agate]

Sabo is gonna be a monster also Oda saying that is just advertising to make people want to catch up

[fast pagoda]

I dont want the revs to fight the marines at all

Maybe a little

But that should not be their main opponent

[graceful grove]

u also think Vasco has made him completely submissive now?

[iron oriole]

they should only really fight the higher ups of the marines

[formal wagon]

lol i remember all the edits from the first go round

[prisma yacht]

Or a dilemma occurs between the brothers shanks and shammy
Garling killing dragon fuels it connecting it to their mom's death

[inner agate]

Most marines have good intentions theyr focused on cipher pol and hk

[iron oriole]

the ones who have basically seen what the WG is & do nothing to change it

[prisma yacht]

He totally gave in

[rose rune]

the last one is a crude edit to "fix her"

[formal wagon]

here was mine

[prisma yacht]

And we see shammy shanks vs garling

[iron oriole]

wtf Mailbox

[formal wagon]

whats up?

[rose rune]

oh yeah! these

[iron oriole]

i used to like you

no more

[formal wagon]

what did i do

[fast pagoda]

This wouldn't be bad

[native cloud]

It does. And it implies Akainu is a stronger mf

[iron oriole]

smh

[prisma yacht]

Me needs vergil Dante duo energy

[fast pagoda]

I think dragon will beat garling and die against imu

[graceful grove]

garp is a good boi

[fast pagoda]

But I think your idea is cool too

[formal wagon]

WHAT'D I DO

[prisma yacht]

Rhanks

[deep chasm]

whats the connection between sabo and shamrock

[formal wagon]

zoro is a zombie btw

theres evidence for this btw

[iron oriole]

the idea i have in my head is Dragon beats Garling or pushes him to the extreme > other Gorosei get involved & beat Dragon > they take him to Imu

[formal wagon]

int he manga

[native cloud]

I’m really interested in Bs matchup structure, cause everyone is fighting Garling according to him

[fast pagoda]

Kid dragon saved vs kid dragon failed to save

[deep chasm]

I have them fighting, but the fight just being inconclusive. and then yea sure dragon can die vs imu

[iron oriole]

@formal wagon this

[deep chasm]

I mean if thats the narrative wouldnt shanks vs shamrock make much more sense

[graceful grove]

both name starts with an S

[deep chasm]

lol

[formal wagon]

Brook did that. A haircut takes a heavy toll

[iron oriole]

smh

[native cloud]

Sum it up B lol

[prisma yacht]

Shanks will be busy with bb

[iron oriole]

rage baiting me so hard rn i swear

[fast pagoda]

Maybe but also I think Shanks wont go after his family at first

[formal wagon]

😭

[native cloud]

Why do you guys want this fight?

[fast pagoda]

I think there will be a clash between the revs and knights specifically

[civic dust]

No. Sabos whole thing is tearing down the WG.

[fast pagoda]

and since Sabo and shamrock are both 2nd in command but rising leaders they could fight

[prisma yacht]

I mean shanks been drooling for this fight for years now

[deep chasm]

well I just think theres not enough of a connection between sabo and shamrock. I rlly do think sabo just ends up as a akainu fight currently

[iron oriole]

Revs should definitely fight the HKs at some point, Dragon was the one to name drop them

[deep chasm]

yea but theres many people for him to fight. Shamrock should probably be fighting someone related to his story

[native cloud]

Doubt it. He is just concerned about that mfs evil way that’s it

[deep chasm]

well I have dragon vs garling being a long but inconclusive fight. I guess I could see sabo clashing with HKs, but I dont see that being his primary battle

[native cloud]

In the Gorosei, who does Sabo fight?

[deep chasm]

I see shamrock fighting Loki for a while, and dying to or at least fighting garling

[graceful grove]

tbh both are kind of the unhinged hard hitters of both organization.

[iron oriole]

i have Sabo fighting Akainu just for the rematch of the fruits

[deep chasm]

maybe the bird

[native cloud]

Yeah?

[prisma yacht]

@grand flower what do you think of sabo going totally insane during the final war insane as in extremist

[rose rune]

I had completely forgotten that I made these

[iron oriole]

scorched earth Sabo

[fast pagoda]

I dont think oda will make sabo a bad guy but i would kill for it

[brittle basin]

Scorched earth sabo literally is pretty poggers

[native cloud]

I think she meant berserk on revenge

[iron oriole]

just starts burning all the buildings in Marijoa with the CDs inside

[fast pagoda]

Yeah

[fast pagoda]

That would be fire

[deep chasm]

Loki vs Shamrock -> Shamrock vs Garling
Dragon vs Garling -> Garling vs Shamrock
-> Dragon vs Imu (not a 1v1 tho)

Sabo vs akainu, but I guess he'd probably clash with other characters such as gorosei or holy knights earlier

[iron oriole]

badum ts

[fast pagoda]

I keep wondering what will happen with the CD children

I think most likely the revs will "kidnap" them

[native cloud]

Yall Imu knows who Dragon is?

[deep chasm]

Im sure he knows of dragon

[iron oriole]

i'd say hang all CDs but Oda wouldn't do that

[rose rune]

hang loose

[brittle basin]

Oda redeems them all, especially Charlos.

[iron oriole]

sure theres some good ones in the bunch & even though most probably don't know the history of the world etc they're still horrible people 99% of the time

[prisma yacht]

There's a high chance akainu gets redeemed
and also the sabo vs akainu fight is most likely to happen
Sabos last thread of insanity wld break in this fight when he finishes off akainu even after knowing that he's a man of people now

[fast pagoda]

Either a bad guy kills them all (Blackbeard or Imu) or the Revs arrest them all

[prisma yacht]

But wld this be a good end for akainu

[deep chasm]

I mean yea doing this would just be repeating the cycle

[native cloud]

Yo Law, Sandman posted something and it’s been throwing me off for days now.

[deep chasm]

so someone like BB could kill them all, but it wouldnt be luffy's decision or the good people's decision to do it

[deep chasm]

whats that

[prisma yacht]

🤙

[native cloud]

Let me check it out.. wait!

[knotty root]

Charlos's sister has a sign of rehabilitation if you remember her

[native cloud]

Here it it!

[rose rune]

shalria or something

[iron oriole]

ehh she just doesn't know the truth, still a horrible person who takes slaves & shit

[prisma yacht]

He is clearly more than just concerned, he has been actively shown searching for him throughout the whole series

I dont think this won't have any pay off

[knotty root]

Curiosity can lead to unknown paths

who knows

[rose rune]

I was right

[deep chasm]

oh yea idk, I doubt he'd know Imu's name this arc

[fast pagoda]

I like the idea sakazuki runs the gauntlet against everyone has beef with him

[iron oriole]

99% of the CDs don't deserve any sort of redemption

[formal wagon]

💀 rosward

[deep chasm]

yea, BB and shanks have to have some sort of climax to the tension. Even if it isnt what everyone assumes (BB killing shanks)

[native cloud]

Shanks dying would just cause an unnecessary imbalance to the world

[deep chasm]

huh

like wdym

[native cloud]

That’s why I don’t believe he will die

[prisma yacht]

I want him gone by the end of series. i dont care who does it

[deep chasm]

but what does unnecessary imbalance to the world mean

he would be dying near the end of the story

and its not a matter of necessary or unnecessary

it'd be that BB wants to kill him and whether he succeeds or not

[prisma yacht]

😭 what

[deep chasm]

or someone else wanting to kill him

[iron oriole]

Imu dying will be an unnecessary imbalance to the world

[prisma yacht]

So glue

[deep chasm]

like whether or not shanks dies does not depend on how stable the world would be after him dying lol

[deep chasm]

right

[native cloud]

You do realise he’s the one keeping the peace right?

[rose rune]

one peace

[formal wagon]

imu living

[deep chasm]

so what does that gotta do with what Im saying

does BB care if shanks is the one keeping the peace if shanks is stopping him from doing something

[native cloud]

Him dying would disturb that

[deep chasm]

ok..

so I guess the peace will be disturbed?

[prisma yacht]

I believe we gonna see more of mixed natured cds soon

[native cloud]

Yeah, for climatic effect

[iron oriole]

i hope not

[prisma yacht]

So when sabo or bb kills them

We feel it

We feel the cycle

[deep chasm]

because it'd been a built up thing for a long time now. Can you explain why peace being distrubed mean this wont happen

[iron oriole]

i like that theres very few outliers that are "good" CDs like Mjosgard, i want Oda to keep 99% of them as evil horrible people

[deep chasm]

yea it'll just be the kids mostly

but you cant kill the kids

[iron oriole]

says who?

[prisma yacht]

Smh

[deep chasm]

says the fact that it'd be immoral. BB can kill the kids, luffy and co cant

[native cloud]

Sommers will lol

[deep chasm]

uh ok

[iron oriole]

Luffy wont do the killing sure

[prisma yacht]

It's gonna be bb or sabo

[deep chasm]

yea, if someone kills the kids, it would be someone who is an enemy, or is acknowledged to be a good guy doing a bad thing

[prisma yacht]

Let it be sabo

Fuel to his rage

[deep chasm]

this wouldnt be a situation where imu is dead, and then Luffy turns a blind eye to someone killing all CD children

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-freaky-cat-cat-meme-tongue-out-gif-1492882876567450372

[formal wagon]

luffy dies and sabo gets mad?

[iron oriole]

Oda should just kill them all offscreen whenever the major attack on Marijoa happens

[deep chasm]

Im sure some amount will end up living

[prisma yacht]

A few days back when I was playing football it hit my nose

It's still hurting

:<

[deep chasm]

maybe all the adults die, but there'll be a kid or two that is saved

[prisma yacht]

Nah manu will be saved

Many

[iron oriole]

one thing i dont want is Imu dying & then his influence being stopped just changes the CDs

[native cloud]

Hey, I always wanted to ask you this, Kaido vs each Gorosei? How many do you think he can take down?

[deep chasm]

well

if he can kill them with acoc

and its consecutive 1v1s

then idk, maybe he gets to 3-4

[warm falcon]

1.Guerra
2.Pirata
3.Fogo (Ace mentioned?)
4.Princesa (Vivi)
5.Bomba (Pellio)
6.Pato (Karu)
7.Governo Mundial
8.Companheiros
9.Revolução
10.Shichibukai (7 Samurais do Mar)
11.Poneglifos
12.Deserto
13. Chuva
14. Camelo (Matsuge)
15. Marinha
16. Sol
17. Pó 😛

16. Goat = Crocodile 🐊
17. God = Uranus (ok im overthinking)
18. Cu
19. Oxi
20. BV. Zoro wasted the chance with Tashigi (jk)
21. Raiz
22. Oda

[native cloud]

Which is the first? The worm lol

[iron oriole]

Ju Peter & Saturn he beats, Mars i can see being annoyingly hard & then Nusjuro/Warcury i dont think Kaido could take

Garling idk, depends on what power he's got from Imu

[deep chasm]

I think if acoc allows him to beat them, and its consecutive 1v1s, there's really not much each one of them can do

so Im even considering if he clears them

in a 5v1 he loses ofc

but in 1v1s, if he's serious, he could just not get hurt that bad per battle

[prisma yacht]

Yeah no one beats goroseis in a 5v1

[native cloud]

Unc what did you just say? 👀

[deep chasm]

but Im going with 4 probably

[iron oriole]

tbh i think even when its just a 2v1, Kaido probably starts to be on the back foot

the more you add, the quicker Kaido loses

[deep chasm]

I mean the big thing with gorosei is their immortality

[prisma yacht]

If it's garling and topman

He dies

[iron oriole]

[deep chasm]

they're strong regardless, but if he can kill them, they can't just tank attacks like normal

[prisma yacht]

[deep chasm]

in a 2v1 he's still winning unless you believe acoc doesnt kill immortals

if it do I fear he's roughin them up

[iron oriole]

i just think theres only so much he can do & Warcury will eat those attacks for days

[deep chasm]

warcury aint eatin shit

once ragnarok comes out warcury is feeling that

[native cloud]

“Conquest Of Ragnarok” 😤🔥🔥🔥

[graceful grove]

thats when Kozuki Hiyori steps in

[iron oriole]

people like to say Luffy didn't use ACoC in Egghead but i have no reason to believe he wouldn't use his strongest ability on these monsters that are trying to kill him & this is a Luffy that just beat Kaido & Luffy did nothing to Warcury

[formal wagon]

speaking of kozuki

shimotsuki kaido

[iron oriole]

literally negative damage on Warcury

[formal wagon]

lmk

[native cloud]

I don’t think he did too

[graceful grove]

he is called TopMan for a reason

[native cloud]

He touched the pig bruh if he didn’t his hand would’ve been fine

[warm falcon]

powerscaling of Gorousei?

[deep chasm]

the reason to believe it is there is no sign he did and now that we have been told acoc would work on them, we are given reason to believe he DIDNT use it.

And ultimately, its just somewhat bad writing on oda's part that he didnt

[prisma yacht]

Cristie

[native cloud]

No Gorosie vs Kaido

[iron oriole]

debating if Kaido can run the guantlet

[prisma yacht]

What is this

[native cloud]

Individually

[deep chasm]

also @iron oriole red roc was inherently a ryou move. Still a feat for warcury, but red roc implies it wasnt acoc anyway

[warm falcon]

word search puzzle

related to Alabaster

[deep chasm]

makes warcury harder than kaido but not enough feats of other attributes to say kaido wouldnt still dominate

[iron oriole]

i choose to believe that Luffy used everything he could on them, no reason not to tbh its literally a life or death situation

[deep chasm]

You would be choosing to believe that with the evidence against you

theres no evidence he did. And we now have evidence that he didnt

yes, there is no logical reason he shouldnt have used it, but thats on the fault of oda for bad writing there , it happens

[ashen perch]

there is evidence though?

Luffy literally screams in frustration that nothing he could do was damaging Saturn atleast

[prisma yacht]

Fih

[ashen perch]

also ACoC was noted to be an inherent part of Luffy's G5 fighting style by Kaido

some lack of indicators isnt changing that

[graceful grove]

its horrendous writing if he didn't use it

[deep chasm]

So Kaido saying luffy at the time was using acoc consistently doesnt mean g5's fighting style inherently involvres acoc

[deep chasm]

yea I agree its bad writing

people just dont like to say that about one piece ever

[graceful grove]

guy literally had to learn new moves last arc because his usual shit didn't work on a tough opponent

[formal wagon]

its called CoCting

[ashen perch]

it does actually

[graceful grove]

its more believable that Luffy used all of it and their defense is that good

[ashen perch]

Gear 5's fighting style has always used ACoC as an inherent part of it outside of these late Egghead instances, where for whatever reason Oda was struggling to draw them (he did take a lot of breaks during this part so maybe he was just struggling in general)

[deep chasm]

"has always used acoc" dawg before egghead there is one fight with g5

[ashen perch]

the dude forgot to draw Shodai Kitetsu as a kitetsu in a scene all about it being a kitetsu, I dunno, he wasnt doing well

[deep chasm]

a fight where he was already using acoc consistently before he got g5

so of course he was going to continue to do so in g5

[ashen perch]

He used it all the time against Kaido, against Kizaru, against the snake, was about to use it against Gaban, used it against Sommers

[deep chasm]

until you realize there's no actual sign of it, and we found out in the next arc acoc is a weakness of immortals

[ashen perch]

but youre forgetting what else we got next arc

[prisma yacht]

Lucci

[ashen perch]

ACoC cancels out ACoC

[ashen perch]

yes

[ashen perch]

atleast it did for Xebec

The thing with regen users with ACoC is that they just work differently than the HKs, you cannot apply those rules to the Gorosei/Harald/Xebec

[formal wagon]

CoCting cancels ACoC

[deep chasm]

they work the same way its just harder to hurt them in the first place

[prisma yacht]

A cock clashing a cock

[ashen perch]

Luffy just didnt surpass Warcury's CoC, that make sense to me

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/foghorn-leghorn-looney-tunes-cartoon-punishment-rooster-gif-17814635

What about the touchy thing

[ashen perch]

well ofc, and Luffy wasnt on a level to hurt them

[deep chasm]

First of all, thats warcury. We see him not even damage warcury, so that'd be fine. We see him damage saturn, it just doesnt actually do anything substantive. That would not be explained by an acoc block

[ashen perch]

Luffy wouldnt have a reason to complain

if he wasnt using everything

[warm falcon]

🐔 🥊 🥊 🐔

[deep chasm]

and again what he uses on warcury is red roc, which was the first big ryou attack we got from him, its not an acoc thing

[ashen perch]

Saturn is weaker?

[prisma yacht]

Legendary fight

[deep chasm]

I dont understand what you're asking

[ashen perch]

ACoC isnt gonna kill, its killed nobody

[deep chasm]

okay so you're just on the scopper gaban lied train

[ashen perch]

Sommers is doing just fine

[deep chasm]

sure I dont think thats true. I think gaban didnt actually lie, so acoc will kill an immortal after enough repitition

and I feel like thats not rlly relevant entirely to what I said anyway

[final trench]

👀

[deep chasm]

what warcury did is more akin to what rocks did

[prisma yacht]

Who has gaban even killed

[final trench]

Uh oh

[deep chasm]

luffy just couldnt damage his body at all

[prisma yacht]

💀

[ashen perch]

I dont think Gaban lied, we've talked about this before, I think its a misunderstanding of what he meant

[final trench]

The skull headed dude

[deep chasm]

so it would make more sense as warcury using acoc and so luffy just couldnt get through the haki at all

[warm falcon]

Gorosei PS huh? powerscaling is fun to follow when its not agenda

[ashen perch]

He has seen a HK die before, it wasnt necessarily due to ACoC

[deep chasm]

it does not translate to a situation where luffy damages saturn's body, but saturn just regens like normal

[tranquil oracle]

ill never understand why people compained about this convo - it made complete sense imo

[deep chasm]

that does not look like using acoc to block

so I dont feel like we need to debate what you're trying to debate

[ashen perch]

I am trying think of all the instances of Saturn getting damaged by Luffy, and I actually dont think he got hurt outside of that final attack

and we didnt see how he regenerated there

we didnt even see him fall into water, because Oda wanted to hide what happens to them in water

[deep chasm]

what chapter is this from

[ashen perch]

1109

from the same chapter too, it just doesnt track

he must've been going all out

[deep chasm]

do you think luffy is turning him into a pancake if saturn's acoc was stronger

[ashen perch]

I mean I think we're about to see Imu get turned into a pancake too

I dont think that really makes a difference

[deep chasm]

Ok but Im still asking

[maiden crystal]

do they gorosei block with acoc?

[deep chasm]

you think saturn was also using acoc to block and thats why luffy couldnt hurt him. So how does that work with how he got turned into a pancake

[ashen perch]

I think they do, Gaban noted that Harald was different for his ACoC for a reason

[ashen perch]

Its to setup that a Gorosei with regen is on a higher tier just by having CoC

[prisma yacht]

I mean even if they had relative acoc there still wld be no dmg

[golden valley]

How do yall think “Blocking out CoC with CoC” is applied?

Because i don’t think its necessarily a no contact force field

[deep chasm]

this is luffy damaging saturn's body. Saturn is just able to regenerate through it.

What happened with warcury is that luffy just couldnt even damage the body. That could be an acoc difference. Saturn getting hurt here but regenerating does not match

[ashen perch]

Doesnt make a difference, I am sure Kaido was also defending with ACoC but he still got turned into rubber every single time

[prisma yacht]

Unless one is superior than the other

[warm falcon]

i put the pin here, i want to see this discussion but im busy rn 📌

[ashen perch]

this is internal bleeding really

[deep chasm]

dude

[ashen perch]

or maybe he bit his tongue

[deep chasm]

and Im meant to take this seriously

[ashen perch]

reminds me of all the instances of Luffy bleeding before Haki

it was always chalked up to internal bleeding or him biting his tongue

I am serious, this was a thing lol

[deep chasm]

🤦‍♂️

[ashen perch]

Luffy notes that his punches meant nothing and did no damage

for regen to even kick in, you need to do damage

[distant vine]

Kaido would lose running the gauntlet

[ashen perch]

theres a difference

[deep chasm]

Genuinely if you don't see how this looks like some form of cope I dont know what to tell you anymore

even if you think this is true, I hope you can see how this looks like some form of cope

[ashen perch]

youre the one denying the evidence in front of you, why would Luffy cry and moan and whine about his attacks doing nothing

[warm falcon]

someone has the cute frame for votes link?

[ashen perch]

if he was just holding something back

you do understand how silly that sounds right?

[maiden crystal]

pins

[warm falcon]

thanx

[deep chasm]

I showed you luffy hurting saturn's body with punches, you told me its saturn biting his tongue

mind you, no internal damage occured with warcury

[maiden crystal]

manga pins

[deep chasm]

but "nah bro he must've bit his tongue"

and Im not supposed to see this as cope

[golden valley]

Because the damage in question isn’t about tanking attacks

[fallen meteor]

i feel pum should count surely theres a fart joke in alabasta

[distant vine]

So we're debating if he used ACOC on Warcury?

Umm...I'm gonna go with he used it but Oda didnt draw it

[maiden crystal]

i thought warcurys durability was just part of his power

[ashen perch]

Yeah, its coming from his mouth and nose, I dunno what to tell you

[deep chasm]

you could tell me you're honest enough to at least see how this could come off as cope

[maiden crystal]

boars are hard irl

[ashen perch]

Laww you havent answered me either

[golden valley]

Luffy obliterated Saturn body parts

[ashen perch]

why would Luffy complain if he wasnt using everything

[golden valley]

What are we talking about here

[deep chasm]

There is no logical reason, its bad writing. I already told someone else this. You just would never accept an answer that involves it being a negative on oda

[ashen perch]

yeah, thats after Saturn was losing his mind, I dont think he was blocking anymore

[deep chasm]

hoooollyyyy shiiit

[golden valley]

Arsal bro

What are we talking about dawg

[ashen perch]

? him losing his mind is canon?

[distant vine]

...Emotional nerf?

Oh Ik what youre talking about

[deep chasm]

here I was looking for the panel to show arsal, somehow he prefired the cope

[golden valley]

No??? Thats not a reason at all nor was it even shown to be impacting him at all

[distant vine]

When he looked animalistic

[ashen perch]

yes, Sanji notes it too

[distant vine]

Why is this part of the debate anyways? Doesnt Warcury obviously just have more durability?

[ashen perch]

he says something about him no longer even feeling human

[deep chasm]

wasted time looking for this panel, new cope came out before I could even send it

[ashen perch]

Laww do you think I forgot, I literally mentioned that earlier

[deep chasm]

dawg

[ashen perch]

that he did get damaged in the final attack

[deep chasm]

I dont care about what happened before he hit the water

[ashen perch]

I think the anime adds ACoC here too

[deep chasm]

you're saying its an acoc diff here. This is now three examples of saturn's body actually being damaged

[deep chasm]

so we believe anime when it benefits us now

[ashen perch]

nah just saying, even if he didnt regenerate normally, we just wouldnt have seen it

[warm falcon]

you can store fart in a dial right?

[deep chasm]

Saturn turned into pancake -> Nah bro just doesnt matter
Saturn bleeds from luffy's punches -> clearly he just bit his tongue
Saturn blown to pieces -> ummm...he mustve been mentally nerfed and didnt use acoc

[ashen perch]

it would make a ton of sense, again, for Luffy to actually be using ACoC. The anime doesnt matter here, I dont think theres ONE instance where Luffy isnt using ACoC, regardless of the indicators

pancake isnt damage, its a DF ability

[deep chasm]

and never will you admit you can at least see why the other side would think this looks like cope from you

[warm falcon]

on your knees, sinners

[sick dust]

You can tell Oda didn’t intent to rush Wano with this statement

Because that was exactly what happened

[ashen perch]

did he repost this

ofc he reposted this, in 2026

[warm falcon]

the posts of sandman are 99.99% fanfic and headcanon

the greatest headcanon creator in the world

[ashen perch]

this is just a misunderstanding of what Oda meant, he's not saying that Kaido wont lose to a punch, nearly everyone in the series loses to a punch

[sick dust]

This was a actual comment

[warm falcon]

ok, so the 0.01 was something

[sick dust]

Sandman mainly just quotes Oda

Outside of Mihawk he is pretty unbiased for the most part

[ashen perch]

He's saying that it cant just be because Luffy can throw a strong punch, he's saying that there needs to be a lot more to the defeat to be convincing

and yknow, Luffy got internal destruction, he got gear 5, he THREW KAIDO INTO LAVA

[prisma yacht]

Sandman is a larper

[distant vine]

He definetly engagement baits with his posts either way

He's an artist in that way.

[ashen perch]

theres just no way, in 2026, you think its worth reposting that, when Kaido lost after being sent into boiling hot lava

Sandman's just engagement baiting

[distant vine]

If Zoro got to do more I might have been convinced

[prisma yacht]

I don't think he reposted it

[distant vine]

But...its okay. Wano is over now.

[sick dust]

It was just a big punch stacked with ACOC

Oda did what he said he didn’t plan to do

[clever idol]

Who carez what Landman says anyway

[ashen perch]

would it have been better if it was a kick lmao

[deep chasm]

This is true but if I was Oda's friend I probably wouldve said hey bro people are gonna clip you if the final attack is actually just a big punch, maybe make it something else

[clever idol]

Fuckin loser

[ashen perch]

like this is so silly

[prisma yacht]

Dude just brought it up from somewhere

[ashen perch]

the lava was a big part of the defeat

[maiden crystal]

what else would he do

[distant vine]

Bajrang Stamp or Bajrang Bell would have saved everything

[clever idol]

U and i both know this was probably said he didnt gaf

[deep chasm]

I mean oda's creative, Im sure he could think of sumn else

[distant vine]

Bajrang Bazooka?

[ashen perch]

Kaido wasnt even declared defeated until the volcanic explosion happened

[maiden crystal]

luffys main kit is punches

[deep chasm]

Im aware

that dont change what I said

[clever idol]

The punch was fine and ghe anime did it justice

[ashen perch]

I think ''strong punch that throws Kaido into lava'' is a looooooooooooooot different than just him throwing a strong punch

[deep chasm]

its not a big deal, Im just saying it probably wouldve helped slightly to not make the final hit a big punch after saying it wouldnt end with a big punch

[clever idol]

It was a punch the size of an island

[sick dust]

That doesn’t mean much. Toei always had to clean up after Oda’s mess when it comes to fight choreography

[prisma yacht]

Big ass Island too

[clever idol]

"Strong punch" does not do it justice

[ashen perch]

it wouldnt have been any better if it was a kick or a headbutt or a fucking idk, body slam??? what was he supposed to do

[clever idol]

Oh shut up

[lethal junco]

no you but up

[clever idol]

He was supposex to pick up big sword and use it

[distant vine]

Man its break week. How rough

[prisma yacht]

Lmfao

[deep chasm]

It would have been slightly better in the sense that oda already said something about a big punch, so naturally you'd think oh lemme throw in something else

[ashen perch]

Its crazy because since the day Mt Fuji was shown, we readers lovingly speculated about Kaido being thrown into lava by Luffy

[deep chasm]

well Kidd shouldve done this actually

kid not doing it was wasted potential

imagine that as the final attack vs big mom

peak

[ashen perch]

I imagine Oda overestimated his readers by thinking that it doesnt make any difference then

[deep chasm]

yea he did

[distant vine]

Man, Oda's actually gonna give Sanji COC huh

[ashen perch]

and then it happened and it was perfect and there are people still mad about it

[distant vine]

You win Devil Fruit bros. You were always right

https://tenor.com/view/klasik-clasik-clasic-gif-25398314

[ashen perch]

well, he didnt get thrown into Mt Fuji, but closest thing to it atleast

[sick dust]

Was the lava really necessary? Can Oda not let Kaido be defeated in any other way?

[ashen perch]

I think its poetic for Kaido to be boiled alive after what happened to Oden

that was a big part of the theory

for Kaido to go down the same way Oden did

[deep chasm]

take me back to when it was an otpion for it to be luffy law kid 3v1 vs kaido

that wouldve been the real peak

[ashen perch]

we knew that Oden was boiled alive since Zou, so when Mt Fuji was shown, we thought the battle would somehow come back to the flower capital and climax at Mt Fuji

[sturdy steeple]

I do like the idea of Captain Trio vs Kaido more but

[ashen perch]

Now unfortunately not everything went according to that great theory

[sturdy steeple]

I also think we had enough of BM for this saga lol

[ashen perch]

but I am still glad that Kaido got boiled alive

[deep chasm]

well it would be reason to believe BM comes back in elbaf

back then we thought BM wouldnt lose here, or at least it was a popular thought

[sturdy steeple]

It's good that she came down the way she did

[sturdy steeple]

Thankfully not

[ashen perch]

yeah no ''there was no way BM would lose'' was what literally everyone believed till Kid and Law showed their awakenings

[sturdy steeple]

I've had enough arguing about this that time

[sick dust]

She shouldn’t come back in Elbaf tbh. We already sailed with Imu being the big bad here

[ashen perch]

I still believed she wouldnt lose after it

[deep chasm]

That is the case now, but as Ive had to say recently this is hindsight

back in wano no one was sure imu would be showing in elbaf, so it wouldve made some sense

[sturdy steeple]

Is the bet over btw

[still mason]

When she ate a piece of her own soul it scared me

[ashen perch]

but Oda had lost his mind unfortunately

[sick dust]

BM would feel forced and might not lead to anything significant. She was done dirty in wano. I won’t want Oda to do that again.

[ashen perch]

no.

[deep chasm]

Okay but this is on the idea that BM wasnt done dirty in wano and we didnt know imu ewas coming to elbaf

[sturdy steeple]

Will you at least consider to end it after this arc

[ashen perch]

I would rather not

but I dont think I can keep it going any longer

[sturdy steeple]

I don't think keeping on bets for the end of the series is a good idea

[ashen perch]

Nobody wants the bet to keep going but me

It wont last till the EOS, I thought she'd be back in Elbaf to tie into her involvement with Hachinosu but we can skip right to Hachinosu as well

[sick dust]

I am saying that bringing BM in Elbaf now would likely be a repeat of how she was treated in Wano. A side villain who is pushed aside for the main villain of the arc to shine.

[deep chasm]

But Im saying we're not discussing of bringing BM back now

it was about back in wano how the idea made sense

back in wano not that many people thought she'd be dying there. And no one thought/knew Imu would be coming in elbaf

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah we can skip to Hachinosu where she will tie into her involvement with Lodestar

And so on and so on

[deep chasm]

so it made sense maybe she'd come back and be the villain of elbaf, or at least be involved

[sturdy steeple]

I mean, I was never apart of the train

Once Law and Kid locked in the fight I knew she would come down

[sick dust]

We were introduced to Loki in the same arc. There was still the possibility either he or Shiki could take on the role of villain of the arc.

[deep chasm]

thats fine, Im just saying it was a popular thought and it made sense

[deep chasm]

bro what

what does this even have to do with what Im saying

in wano do you think it made no sense for BM to survive that arc

[sick dust]

BM wasn’t the guaranteed villain if Imu didn’t show up

[deep chasm]

please do not involve any knowledge you have past wano

[deep chasm]

when did I say that

I must be getting trolled

whatever man

[sturdy steeple]

[sick dust]

I suggest learning to handle a different perspective

[deep chasm]

dawg

you dont even know my point

[deep chasm]

you're telling me this as if I ever said this

[sturdy steeple]

Okay no, that's not....

Yeah, man, you gotta reread carefully what Law has been saying lol

[sick dust]

That comment was still uncalled for

[deep chasm]

I think its very called for if it feels like Im being trolled 😭

[sick dust]

Oda also disregards popular theories all the time

Besides Moria can you name a massively popular theory that came true?

[deep chasm]

ok...

[ashen perch]

no he doesnt

thats a myth

[deep chasm]

again what does this have to do with what Im saying

[urban sluice]

shanks twin.

easy dub

get mogged

[deep chasm]

I didnt say "man its really weird oda didnt go with this popular theory"

[deep chasm]

also yea this is a losing battle lmao

[ashen perch]

theres so many lol

[sturdy steeple]

There are plenty of popular theories that came true but that's not the point

[ashen perch]

Oda's not even keeping track of the theories, he doesnt care

[maiden crystal]

shanks twin is still made up to me cuz thats crazy

[ashen perch]

He'd have to change the story so heavily if he started worrying about it

[maiden crystal]

shanks fans seem delusional sometimes but lo they were right somehow

[prisma yacht]

He's too busy bro

Drawing boobs

[sick dust]

Shamrock was a cop out

[runic dock]

Just found out there’s a bird called Cock-of-the-Rock

[deep chasm]

shanks twin, zorosanji vs king/queen, xebec being related to blackbeard, like a million things

[runic dock]

OP relevant

[rose rune]

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Hmm acock of the rock

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Rocks acoc

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Oda copied irl yet again

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I feel like Shanks twin gained traction after we found out that he is a part of Figarland's family and he has a dad lol

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Those last two aren’t theories.

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Muh goda does it again

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oh, ye

srry

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neither is a prediction of who fights who, or big mom surviving

so whats your point

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Still feels surreal. It's like we've always known that Shamrock is a thing.

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if you're going to have an actual decent standard for whats a theory. then big mom surviving was not much of a theory

nor was making a prediction that kid law and luffy who said they'd fight kaido, would fight kaido

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Yeah it’s crazy how used to it I am but every time I think about it for more than 1 min it still blows my mind

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why was king and queen a theory

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by the standard that "big mom survives" was a theory, pretty much any predicition is a theory

and many people we'rent sure who zoro and sanji would fight

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Sanji being a royal

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they always fight the main guys top lackeys

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and I fear xebec being BB's father is much more of a theory than Big mon surviving or not

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It was obvious

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Hitetsu = Sukiyaki was a popular one on the JP side of the fanbase, that didnt change a thing either

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That’s many people’s fault it was pretty obvious lol

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That was before we found out who King and Queen really are I guess

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Zoro fights second commander and Sanji fights third commander

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ok metal do you see my point though

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But also this arc everyone predicted Sanji fighting Sommers and yet we got it wrong lol

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how by that standard, big mom surviving or not also isnt much of a theory

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Obviously zoro would fight the one who’s name is a rank above a queen and Sanji would fight th queen

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Xebec being BB's father is a good one, another popular theory was Sabo being alive

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its a small prediction

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Doesn’t take a genius

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thats just oda being a hack

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so in that case, why would it ever matter how often oda does popular theories

which again is a loosing battle anyway

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another popular theory was the existence of an actual devil of the devil fruits

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sommers v sanji shouldve been the acoc fight of love but instead since sommers has a sword he has to fight zoro

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oh I forgot, I guess ACoC was a very popular theory too

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ngl but Killy has more of a blade than Sommers has lol

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Everyone thought thered be an Advanced, Fighting version of Conquerors

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This is less so theories and more so predicting the obvious. Oda wasn’t subtle about Sabo whatsoever.

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Sommers' sword is just made out of thorns.

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looked too much like a sword for zoros liking ig

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You think every popular theory that happened was obvious

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No? He was pretty subtle about him lol

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I might give you that one

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I'd argue that at Arlong Park Sanji fought #2 and Zoro #3

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Oda was pretty subtle about Sabo lol

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popular theories tend to get popular bexause they''re "obvious"

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Its true, Kuroobi has the higher bounty

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That's a fact lol

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most things that are actually very in depth dont get popular

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Absalom is also technically ofc ranked higher than Ryuma

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Tell me where I directly said that

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🤦‍♂️

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Kaido having a Dragon devil fruit was also a pretty popular theory

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gear 5 was a popular theory lmao

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I am trying to think of more bigger ones

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but I guess that was just obvious right

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oh yeah Sanji's royal heritage

Kanjuro being the traitor at the end got very popular too

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Kaido is a poneglyph

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Marco coming to wano was a theory

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How did we come to this though

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zkk

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because metal doesnt think oda often goes through with popular theories

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Oda's not even thinking about your theories, he said that he stopped keeping track of them a while ago because its better to not worry about it

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Law glazer though BM was gonna be the villain of Elbaf because it was the popular prediction and theory at the time

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oh Dragon being a Marine

that was a recent one

that was MEGA popular

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Also Hitetsu being Sukiyaki

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predictable doesnt mean bad, adverting from expectations and potentially making a mistake could be bad

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so again strawmanning

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Very popular theory

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yeah I did mention that

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He didn't say that

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hitetsu sukiyaki is a red herring

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He didn’t had to

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i mean his dad is garp and he wanted his grandkids to be marines

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you just dont know what Im saying whatsoever, and then you wonder why I thought you were trolling

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What are you even saying

Dude

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mind you, you've not responded to half the messages here

arsal gave out like 7 more theories and there's no response to those

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eh yeah but that didnt mean he was actually a Marine, its not like Luffy actually became a Marine either

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You want me to reply to every comment?

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the ones that apply to you yes

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Saul being alive, oh just recalled another one

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true i just thought it would be weird if didnt at least try out, i always wondered what led him to want to be a rev

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I mean alternatively, you can just make a broader response saying "yea okay I guess oda does often do popular theories"

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Welp, first of all, yes. You were the one that brought it up. Secondly, you're still strawmanning what he said. None of what you're saying correlates with what Laww said.

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and that kinda replies to most of the recent messages

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Kuma being Bonney's father, I remember when even I thought that was too predictable

The fanbase came up with things like ''oh actually Bonney is Kuma's mother"

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I think if Oda actually was intentionally dodging popular theories hed just be putting himself through more trouble

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lol

Arsal

Remember when people thought Bonney was Ace's lover or something

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I was a believer of that actually

not that

lmao

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Because she cried after his death

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yeah I remember that 😭

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when was this

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Nice

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Immortal Gorosei

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I mean

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thats another popular one

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This was definitely the case and Oda changed it

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I mean Imu and gorosei being powerful in of itself was a theory

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It had been a thing until we got to Egghead

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well I guess not popular, it wasnt very popular

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resin theory

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It would be the same awnser everytime you want me to repeat myself

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I think I used to think only either Imu or the gorosei would be strong. I didnt think both would be powerful

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People didnt like it when I said I believed it...

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lol you idiots

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so none of the things arsal said count as theories. Gear 5 isnt a theory, kaido as a dragon isnt a theory, saul being alive isnt a theory, etc?

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Shanks being a CD, was that mentioned?

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You know

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I guess the twin part was

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probably not

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this a good one

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Evil Shanks was bigger than twin Shanks I think

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but him being a CD itself was a very popular theory for a long long time

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Craxy theories that came true, or your craxy theories

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Sometimes it's fine to just admit that you misunderstood someone's else point

But I guess not

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nah, just popular theories that just came true

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Oh like time traveling Luffy, gotchu

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the question is if Oda actually cares about these popular theories and if he actively fights against them, but he absolutely doesnt

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there is a final verdict who visited the gorousei? shanks or shamrock?
i think it was shanks

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Shuron are you gonna eat a nutella tuna sandwich if it doesn't become true

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Was there actually anything to foreshadow twin Shanks besides that scene of either Shanks or Shamrock talking to the gorosei

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I mean there was an interview where someone asked ''is Shanks two people'' to Oda

and the answer was censored

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God damn it

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wait not that, ''are there two Shanks''*

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Its confirmed to be shamrock

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Oda when I get you

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We have sbs on this now

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''thousands of times'' it really was that popular

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Silvers Sanji

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I feel like Sanji awakening his Germa powers should also count

I remember that being a popular theory during WCI

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wait til Mihawk revealed to actually be rayleighs son

will shock the internet

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and it only became a thing when it stopped being a popular theory lol

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Dark Sanji

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dark sanji technically happened btw

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I do hope that Mihawk is of royal blood

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yeah, the whole Dark Sanji thing was predicted from WCI

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tbh his whole demeanour and his ahem place of living imply that

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Celestial dragon Mihawk I feel like is like 80% gonna happen

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Meso was a real one for that

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Now nerona Mihawk might be like 40% likely

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Dam yall want Mihawk to be an actual character that badly huh?

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People hated Jesus because he was telling the truth

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I think it would just be a very oda thing to do for us to find out wait shanks and mihawk didnt just fight for the sake of it, there was actual a deeper reason

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Instead of a goal post

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and it be CD related

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Uh yeah why not

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as much as I want to avoid more zoro glaze

I see there being a good chance oda would reveal idk mihawk fought shanks cuz of some CD related beef initially

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I mean yeah, that would be better for the series, yes. But do I personally want it to happen because of a blood line? No, but some do

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Those were dark times

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I would like for Mihawk to be more interesting than he is

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It’s understandable. He’s pretty boring compared to Shanks on the surface

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Pun intended

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Giving Mihawk's more to work with isn't Zoro glaze

Like right now this guy might be the most boring character the show has.

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Though the whole Imu theory was just gasping at straws imo

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Not just more to work with. But its a potential rabbit hole. Like dont let any of the crazy "mMihawk is imu's son" theories come true