also-manga

[warm falcon]

but she was the 'captain'

[urban lodge]

Song is okay, visually it's really good

[warm falcon]

forgot to vote, brb

[dapper tree]

Pretty much same rating

[warm falcon]

let me spoil the helpers a bit

[urban lodge]

Yayyy

Thank you

[hasty sable]

it's good

Egghead opening was also good

[urban lodge]

The background art really stands out to me, it's really well drawn

[dapper tree]

Loki for SH

Loki and luffy were so funny

[spice cairn]

Yes

[warm falcon]

i like this cursed version of Bonney

[spice cairn]

Its random art I found browsing Pixiv casually

[sonic oasis]

Chapter is peak

[dapper tree]

Last page was peak

[keen falcon]

It's alright

[hasty sable]

alright Robin basically killed Sommers here

[dapper tree]

She did

If only she kept the clutch

[honest garden]

She almost got him in a ring out too. She's goated for this

[celest mauve]

sommers and killingham are growing on me as villains, they're better characterized than 90% of the henchmen we've seen till now

[dapper tree]

He would have stayed incapacitated

Can't heal if stuck in a broken pose

[sonic oasis]

I didn't know how to feel about them at first, but I've grown to really like them.

[celest mauve]

yeah, I don't remember feeling way this about most henchmen besides maybe bon clay, kaku and one or two others

[trim lily]

theyre so fun

[dapper tree]

They are the strongest bums

[small ember]

They’re very fun as Evil Henchmen Bastards

[celest mauve]

"super sommers" I smiled icl

[dapper tree]

Sommers is just like so evil it's comical

[trim lily]

the knights in general have been great in concept

[small ember]

Sommers going WHAT when hearing Gunko may be dead was kinda funny ngl

[celest mauve]

they might be bums but they're fun bums

without the omen buff anyway

[dapper tree]

Very true

[trim lily]

can zoro beat SUPER sommers

[dapper tree]

Nerfed zoro vs Super Sommers

[trim lily]

might be out of his league

[small ember]

Yeah the whole thing about him loving to see the kids die with the parents bc it’s so emotional was so over the top it looped back around to funny

[celest mauve]

mf didn't even know he had conqueror's haki, it might be over

[small ember]

Zoro may fold him

Or he may be cooked

[dapper tree]

Zoro will insta kill him

[small ember]

Yeah

[trim lily]

i have faith in him

[small ember]

That’s what I lean towards

[trim lily]

surely he wouldnt lose twice

[dapper tree]

Target the metal heart

[small ember]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-clapping-his-feet-gif-26685466

[dapper tree]

Zoro is gonna get his ass kicked for a while because he's gonna take damage for no reason

But zoro will one shot

[celest mauve]

nerfed zoro and sanji defeating buffed sommers and killingham is gonna be a feast for powerscalers

[trim lily]

sad but true

[dapper tree]

Just running into thorns

[warm falcon]

zoLo has L not in vain

[dapper tree]

It'll be so funny

[warm falcon]

nice pick, new translators

[dapper tree]

And what I expected all along

All within expectations

[sick dust]

Not if you want endgame loot and content

[dense haven]

haki chuds lulw

[hasty sable]

have to admit it would be really funny for Sanji to never get CoC

[small ember]

Wonder what Gaban wants to tell Luffy

[hasty sable]

time dilation?

[dapper tree]

I put all my points into physical stats

[sick dust]

A strength build hm?What weapon you running?

[dapper tree]

Exile greatsword

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-bonney-bonney-one-piece-jewelry-bonney-egghead-gif-684152239712593653

[sick dust]

I use a pyro magic build

[dapper tree]

Nice

[royal orchid]

is it fair for bonney to have gear 5 base guys

[dapper tree]

Yes

[sick dust]

It’s slow at first but once you you get to the swamps of Florida it stacks up

[dapper tree]

She can do that

[sick dust]

Frfr

[dapper tree]

Hate the Florida swamps

Rusted ring saves my life

[sick dust]

40 vigor is very useful when crossing the Sahara desert frfr

[dapper tree]

Travel through Alabasta speedrun

[lofty fern]

Can't wait to see what that actually does for them. We haven't actually gotten a full fight from either of them.

Also, I just realized Imu's plan.

Imu's the distraction. The only reason the HK's mostly failed was thanks to Loki and Luffy. Imu's keeping the strongest on the island busy while his men do the actual work

[dapper tree]

A true leader

Too bad Sommers and Killingham are gonna bif it

Resulting in Imu super killing them

[lofty fern]

I think there's going to be some success here, Not sure how or what, but something

[dapper tree]

Ehhhhh

Like

[lofty fern]

You don't have them fail, build them back up, just to have them fail all over again.

[dapper tree]

You can easily

[lofty fern]

Feels needless and redundant

[lofty fern]

Love Shakky

[dapper tree]

Sommers and Killingham getting beat

Loki and Luffy getting beat

Imu loses due to time limit

It all works out

Everyone wins and no one wins

[scenic dirge]

Sommers and Killingham are expendable villains. They can fully lose here. Not like they’re needed for the final war unlike Imu

[dapper tree]

I'm sure Imu just gets booted back to the holy land after the time limit expires

So Imu can beat Loki and Luffy but would have wasted so much time doing so. That he can't do anything else

And teleports back

[leaden tiger]

rip usopp btw

did nothing in the end

[dapper tree]

He will shoot Imu

Knock out his last HP point

[maiden plinth]

Usopp made Imu go to Elbaf

that's something

[unkempt sable]

So it’s ALL his fault

[dapper tree]

King of rage bait

[unkempt sable]

Up there with Morgan’s

[dapper tree]

Imu kidnaps Usopp at the end of the arc

[civic dust]

Sommers death will probably do that with how much damage imu took from the last holy knights death

[dapper tree]

Forces a covenant

Evil Usopp arc

[blazing depot]

Elbaph… means nothing to me

[dapper tree]

But Elbaf has Zaza

[pulsar path]

Idk

[dapper tree]

[pulsar path]

Unless I wanna grind like sonic I wish these were ups

Or dunks

I love dunks

[dapper tree]

I could spend 180$ on nike merch OR I can spend 180$ on card packs

[pulsar path]

See I'm like what can I get in video game flavor! Retros ? Flashcarts?

Unless these shoes make me jump with Gomu Gomu

[wraith mantle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/vivi-one-piece-5--k01KRD0NF6YANRR91XJZEADAAJS

[woven heron]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[grand rain]

g4 luffy face looks crazy like dragon

looking at this

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[dapper tree]

I liked Zaza

[lofty fern]

I'm pretty sure his time limit doesn't act like some kind of rubber band. He's the one who controls the abyss.

Then again, if his aim is to take out Loki and Luffy in the first place or at least distract them, then he's basically accomplished his goal

[lofty fern]

This arc did so much for Dragon

Best he's ever been in the story

[woven heron]

I liked Zaza too great chocolate

[tidal ice]

it was alright, felt like a setup one for later stuff, most notable thing was skypiea gods like rain god being a thing

[dapper tree]

I kinda compare it to when Mars got booted back. Either he went outside the summon range or he thought it not worth the travel time. Imu when the time limit is up boots him back

[dapper tree]

His aim is more likely to keep Loki and Luffy busy so they can't stop Sommers and Killingham.

Imu probs believes Buffed Sommers and Killingham won't be stopped by anyone. Especially sine Imu himself beat up the 3rd and 4th strongest

Luffy and Loki the only ones that would be an issue

So as long as Sommers and Killingham can finish up before Imu's time limit is up then they win

[woven heron]

Loki must be in real life danger aswell with others so i assume Luffy fruit gonna fully transform him to a god per usual so Luffy goes all in against Mu

[dapper tree]

Loki will lose and luffy will take over

Maybe even a luffy ragnir combo if oda is cool

[lofty fern]

Ethereal Imu

[lofty fern]

I always assumed that Mars got knocked far away and just went back on his own rather than returning to Egghead. But either way, I don't think the "time limit" works like that

If anything it seems more like Imu himself has to decide to leave because either his body weakens, or he weakens or something,

[spice cairn]

Is this eeal

Real

[lofty fern]

Though it could be something as simple as he doesn't regen

Putting him at risk of dying in battle

[dapper tree]

Well he doesn't regen already

His body is falling apart

[dense haven]

imu doesnt have regen

[dapper tree]

Him existing outside the holy land is doing more damage than loki is

[dense haven]

so true

surely dragon will be stronger

[dapper tree]

So once his body falls apart he's gonna have to teleport back home

[dapper tree]

He just teleported back. Cause if he was fast enough to fly back home. He'd be fast enough to fly back to egghead

Something went wrong and he was forced back

[dapper tree]

Dragon will fight and lose to Imu at home base

Dragon's only fight too

If only he pushed all the gorosei off a cliff and killed em all at once

[mighty quail]

so apparently other people have noticed this... that's definitely a foreshadowing for Nika, not just a gag. literally reality warping teeth growth

....wait

[clever hollow]

Huh, true

[dark nymph]

Brook is doing it too

[mighty quail]

I just had a very stupid idea because it doesn't really apply

[mighty quail]

brook is bones, it's been established "why" it works for him

the person calling it out is the key here

also realizing that apparently the scene from sabaody with Rayleigh about VoAT was not actually a retcon, since Big Mom does actually say Roger could read it that way and Oden was definitely planned by that point

[dapper tree]

https://tenor.com/view/julian-smith-jstv-malk-milk-gif-20176229

[mighty quail]

just an adjusted plotpoint

[mighty quail]

anyways my stupid idea has to do with the whole "Luffy wouldn't be interested in the Happiness Punch unless Usopp is also there"

there's nothing further to it than that, but... it is true that Luffy drank the milk next to Brook and influenced his tooth to grow back.

[dapper tree]

Milk go brrrrr

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cow-drinking-1--k01KRD6E8YJSEKN4GXKZ8SC5A93

[crude nebula]

He might push Loki to use hybrid in the holy land

[crude nebula]

He clearing the WG and hes surviving the final fight

[thick mango]

The reason I think dragon is doomed to fall is same reason I think shanks is. The victory needs to come at the hands of the current generation, luffy and sabo not shanks and dragon

[native cloud]

I could get that but don’t downplay their significance in the story

[native cloud]

He can’t do that. Not even Shanks can do that lol

[alpine trench]

One Piece

👍

That’s it

[native cloud]

Sup @alpine trench, been a long time since I saw you bro

[alpine trench]

Busy

[dapper tree]

If you know, you know. And you don't know

[native cloud]

Lol

[native cloud]

You figured out how Loki loses here? Cause I’m blank lol

[blazing depot]

Imu hacks

His abilities are “fuck you I win”

[native cloud]

Or the timeout thing you’re talking about will happen?!

[dapper tree]

Imu punches loki into the dirt

[muted hedge]

Imu seems to genuinely enjoy this

which makes me happy

it's not as people assumed that he would be stoic to the end

[dapper tree]

Imu is taking more damage from existing than from loki

[muted hedge]

Imu isn't even focused on Loki right now

he is still locked in memories

[shadow knoll]

They killed AnimeKai 😭

https://tenor.com/view/joo-jew-jewl-s4j78-gif-5651286586900019647

[dapper tree]

Good

[mighty quail]

nature killed animekai lol

[muted hedge]

who the hell is animekai

[mighty quail]

literally burnt down their datacenter

[mighty quail]

🏴‍☠️ site

[shadow knoll]

wait really, damn

[dapper tree]

Imu not being brooding and stoic is peak. Him yelling and freaking out over stuff is great

[muted hedge]

i agree

[dapper tree]

Imu only acting cool and collected when things are going their way

[muted hedge]

like every other one piece villain

[thick mango]

They've both created the enviornment/structure necessary to enable the next generation to succeed

[mighty quail]

it's not clear if it actually destroyed the data yet, they'll have to confirm in the future, but yeah datacenter in Amsterdam got burnt

they must've asked the host about it though, so I imagine it's probably true

[shadow knoll]

oh well unlucky, I guess

[mighty quail]

somebody joked about Crunchyroll getting a Death Note

[shadow knoll]

I'm sure a new site will come up in the future

crunchyroll and netflix should be the one who's datacenter's get burnt

[muted hedge]

curious

[dapper tree]

curious

[prisma yacht]

curious

[fast pagoda]

curious

[celest mauve]

[muted hedge]

[maiden saffron]

is Alubarna Palace having a history of 4,000 years the oldest callback in the series?

[muted hedge]

oh yeah

hellflame serpent spotted

[maiden saffron]

i wonder if this style of mural has any relevance, They're drawn in a similar fashion on the reverse mountain gates

in one of the panels you see a mural of some kind of sea king maybe, and it's almost like the panel wants you to focus on it

i don't believe its just a random background detail

[muted hedge]

which panel is that?

[muted hedge]

it definitely has relevance, it's said that Alubarna castle holds 4,000 years worth of history

very possible that it's the history surrounding how Alabasta came to be as we know it now

[maiden saffron]

this page

[muted hedge]

ooh

[maiden saffron]

i wonder if there's a link between the people who put the alabasta murals there

and those on the reverse mountain gates

[muted hedge]

doesn't entirely look like the same sort of style but maybe

looks a lot like the common depiction of a leviathan

[maiden saffron]

the reverse mountain gates are also interesting because they've seemingly stood for atleast 800 years, probably even longer

probably ancient kingdom structures ..

[muted hedge]

hmm

[rain cedar]

Hellfire serpent?

From Harley

[muted hedge]

i think it's just a depiction of sea kings or sea beasts

[maiden saffron]

yeah on the reverse mountain

[muted hedge]

though the mural in Alubarna i do think is the hellflame serpent

[maiden saffron]

its probably just sea kings

[rain cedar]

[maiden saffron]

the murals in alubarna might be some sort of serpent

or an azure dragon

like kaido

[muted hedge]

maybe the hellflame serpent is the reason for why Alabasta is as it is

maybe it was lush before

we know it has existed 500 years before the void century too

also i've always found it interesting how it seems to be built like if it was prepared for yet another flood

i don't remember if we got a reason for why it's raised from the ground

[maiden saffron]

or the sea level rising ...

[muted hedge]

yeah

[maiden saffron]

thats actually such a good point, i didnt think about that until i looked at it now

its so obvious

Water 7 is also a country that's known to be extremely old

pluton was created there

and that's also a country that's seemingly raised to combat the rise in sea level or flooding

[muted hedge]

yup

Alubarna might have had the same idea all the way back then

[maiden saffron]

There's also the endless bridges in tequila wolf

[muted hedge]

i wonder if the bridges hold more of a purpose other than just allow for travel when the flood comes

[rose rune]

well, in theory it makes it easier to defend

they have the high ground annie

[muted hedge]

yeah that's also true

okay clearly it's something more than just for travel

i've seen the idea that it will form a pentagram or a covenant seal on the whole world

though that sounds a bit silly if you ask me

[maiden saffron]

its so cool that there's just these random bombshell panels in this story that we STILL haven't gotten the answers to

like what do you mean it started construction right at the end of the void century

and is still going

like that is crazy

[muted hedge]

yeah the world building is unparalleled

[worthy dew]

i've always been super curious about Tequila Wolf & i was so happy we finally got some answers abt it

[pulsar path]

One idea that can to me is like what if this was just one CD project like this was just some random family or person that had enough money to fund this crap or not find it

[maiden saffron]

tequila wolf is really cool cause of how early it is

[rain cedar]

Makes sense no, because the water levels rose by 200m

[muted hedge]

that would be a bit anti-climatic

[maiden saffron]

water 7 SORT of hints at the sea level rising etc but

in tequila wolf they straight up say we started building this bridge at the end of the void century

and we're not gonna tell you what it is for

[pulsar path]

I mean not really when you think about how terrible it is that a random smuck can send this many people into slavery because they have money

[maiden saffron]

it's notably early in the story in that regard

it was decades since we finally got a hint as to why the bridges are being built

[rain cedar]

The continents had already sunk by the end of the void century

That's probably why they started the bridges

[maiden saffron]

is the all blue theory of the red line being destroyed still common?

I feel like it's almost definitely gonna happen

isnt it

[muted hedge]

i'm guessing it's because that's when they already knew about the world starting to sink gradually

[worthy dew]

maybe not the entire Red Line but the part with Mariejois definitely

[royal orchid]

it used to be the reverse mountain being destroyed

[worthy dew]

there's the prophecy about Luffy destroying Fishman Island after all

[pulsar path]

I think people just got tired of waiting lol

But yeah I think most of us believe it

[muted hedge]

i definitely believe in it still

since it makes a lot of sense

it will destroy the barrier

[maiden saffron]

yeah, they knew that what they were planning to do was gonna cause sea level rises, so they just planned ahead. But it's awesome just how early it was shown to us.

the all blue and one piece theory were the same at one point

when people thought the one piece would be one sea

Lmfao

[rain cedar]

Kinda makes sense because all the blues become one lmao

[maiden saffron]

but i feel like it's now a separate thing, and that one piece theory doesn't exist

[muted hedge]

i like the idea that the one piece is located underneath reverse mountain

as reverse mountain is the X

[maiden saffron]

we have 3 road poneglyphs so far right?

[tranquil oracle]

i feel like oda wouldn’t pull such an obvious thing though it makes a lotta sense

[maiden saffron]

what do we think about lodestar, the island itself being the last road poneglyph

[maiden saffron]

he's done a bunch of obvious things tbf

[muted hedge]

how would that line up with the man marked by flame carrying it?

[rain cedar]

It definitely can't be because well, Why the hell would Roger laugh at it

[maiden saffron]

wait my memory is a bit hazy on this part

we know that the man with the burn mark has it?

[muted hedge]

yeah

[maiden saffron]

ah okay then

[worthy dew]

i've always found it cool that when Luffy traveled across Reverse Mountain he was actually physically super close to the end of the Grand Line. but actually reaching that point is taking decades of story

[tranquil oracle]

burn scar guy prolly affiliated with the WG

[maiden saffron]

the only burn mark guy wek now of is aokiji

but his bum ass definitely dont got it

[pulsar path]

I do think it will be apart of it, onepeice, like we probably are going to get another mural in laugh tale right? Maybe it will show sun god breaking the red line

[muted hedge]

to no surprise i've seen people think that the man marked by flame is Zaza

given the whirlpools

[muted hedge]

yeah it's sick

[rain cedar]

What

Oh

[maiden saffron]

wouldnt that be like

[pulsar path]

Sea god

[maiden saffron]

the woman soaked in water

or something

anyway

[muted hedge]

i don't know lol, i don't entertain the idea

[worthy dew]

Zaza is like the opposite of the man marked by flames lmfao

[muted hedge]

i think that the man marked by flame is a fishman personally

[maiden saffron]

i wonder if the man with the burn mark is someone we know

or a brand new character

[pulsar path]

Can I push the prinney over dooood!( Idk if your a disagea fan lol)

[tranquil oracle]

i think it’s gonna be a lunarian that managed to survive extinction like king and potentially whatever imu is

[muted hedge]

i hope that it's a new character straight up

[rain cedar]

Would be wayyy cooler if it's someone we know though

[muted hedge]

fuck it, make the man marked by flame the most powerful fishman in history

[muted hedge]

i kinda disagree

[dapper tree]

Not that high a bar

[maiden saffron]

kong is the man marked by flames !

[rain cedar]

Anything for kong relevance

[maiden saffron]

yeah he got a burn mark 2 months ago

we just didn't see it yet

[muted hedge]

i just want a fishman who has conquerors haki really

[maiden saffron]

shirahoshi will probably have it

[rain cedar]

I was sort of hoping it was Gaban but I think Gaban would know who the burn scar man is

[dapper tree]

Jinbei can get it for free for no reason

[rain cedar]

He did tell Luffy to meet him at the end

[maiden saffron]

she's by default the strongest fishman island native isnt she

[muted hedge]

does she even need it?

Shirahoshi feels a bit like the win button lol

[maiden saffron]

she doesn't need it, but i think she'll definitely have both conquerors haki and voat

she's a win button yeah Lmfao

[royal orchid]

imagine it jimbei actually was a threat to the enemy and he wasn't just strong guy who lifts water

[tranquil oracle]

slightly irrelevant but we still gotta find out why that explorer guy at the beginning said not to stay in elbaf for too long

[rain cedar]

Ill take this over Sanji getting CoC because it would be hilarious to see him seethe at jinbei

[tranquil oracle]

unless that’s already been covered

[muted hedge]

still horrifying

[rain cedar]

Nah, not covered. It's a mystery

[dapper tree]

Sanji is gonna get it too so that just works out but that would be hilarious

[rain cedar]

Sanji is definitely getting it

[tranquil oracle]

if it’s a time dilation thing that’d be dope

[muted hedge]

i wonder if any of the straw hats know about Zaza

maybe Robin has read something about her?

or is it strictly Celestial Dragon spooky tale

[rain cedar]

I know people keep mentioning time dilation but is there any hint this is an actual thing? Like in the manga

[tranquil oracle]

either robin or brook have prolly heard of it

[pulsar path]

Sea gods gorsei

Like straight up

[royal orchid]

I thought that was Nami saying "luffy-sama" and crying for a solid 3 seconds there

[tranquil oracle]

not really tbh i kinda forgot what hints people talked about

[maiden saffron]

theoretically shirahoshi can just call infinite buster calls and ruin the whole world and also be nigh unbeatable

it makes sense though, that is an ancient weapon

its cool that we're so familiar with one of them

cant wait to see the power of the others

[royal orchid]

is Shirahoshi the potential woman

[pulsar path]

5th best NamI clone ?

[maiden saffron]

she is not the potential woman

she's THE woman

[fast pagoda]

Only if she fails to fulfill it

Which she won't

[royal orchid]

Shirahoshi fumbles it and they have to wait another couple centuries for poseidon

[rain cedar]

That's smoothie

[fast pagoda]

There is one major potential person in OP and we all know who it is

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ace-one-piece-one-piece-ace-one-piece-one-piece-wano-gif-24525860

[rain cedar]

Does this really count if he's dead

Like you can't have potential if you're dead

[maiden saffron]

no it doesnt count

[royal orchid]

why didn't ace just use that ball of fire he summoned against BB but on Marineford after escaping
is he stupid

[maiden saffron]

a potential man is someone who fails to realize their potential through being a BUM

ace didn't necessarily fail to realize his potential, he was a big shot pirate, 2nd div commander for the strongest man in the sea

[pulsar path]

Something in this prophecy has to go wrong it would kinda funny if Luffy does something kidna like when he breaks the log post

[maiden saffron]

and they fought a war over him

[rain cedar]

Isn't Shanks low-key a potential man

[maiden saffron]

he just died

thats it

[rain cedar]

He's supposed to be the potential pirate king

But he won't be

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-gif-20361531

[maiden saffron]

Oda really was just creating random ass devil fruits back in the day

im re-reading some early parts of the story

but its funny how careful he is nowadays

Lmfao

[pulsar path]

Poor NamI

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-double-finger-thunder-tempo-slap-boxing-fist-gif-9781572062028765200

[pulsar path]

Nerona NamI confirmed

[rain cedar]

Lineage piece.....

[fast pagoda]

He had potential when alive

[pulsar path]

NamI actually be getting Tough fights comparably

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-one-piece-movie-8-episode-of-alabasta-alabasta-gif-16996187602619808475

man Nami was having a hard time against ms doublefinger

[maiden saffron]

still her best fight

i think

[fast pagoda]

It is crazy she took down mr 1's partner

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-one-piece-movie-8-episode-of-alabasta-alabasta-gif-17975517722524172796

[rain cedar]

His potential did manifest though

[maiden saffron]

kalifa is great too, i love that one in particular cause she stood up for sanji

[pulsar path]

Her and kalifa is really good tho

[fast pagoda]

I think kalifa is still better

[royal orchid]

her leg got tortured that fight

[fast pagoda]

He obviously could have gone higher

[maiden saffron]

I love both nami and usopp for that reason, they're cowards, they panic, they run away but

they show up when it matters

thats a trait other characters cannot have

[pulsar path]

There fights are always interesting tho

[maiden saffron]

makes them more likeable

[rain cedar]

I mean that applies for literally everyone lol. But ig yeah. I still wouldn't call him the potential man though considering where the term originates from

[pulsar path]

Maybe not on weekly reads tho lmao

[royal orchid]

ehhhh the buildup was good but the fight was just okay to me

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-kalifa-kalifa-one-piece-soap-enies-lobby-gif-10670859574865260839

[maiden saffron]

oda needs to stop being a coward and give robin, nami and usopp more fights

Robin vs Black maria moved MOUNTAINS

[pulsar path]

Robin got her fight for 15 years now 😭

[maiden saffron]

⛰️
🛻

[pulsar path]

Her last one before that was skypia wasn't it ?

[maiden saffron]

yeah

[pulsar path]

Damn oda

[maiden saffron]

she technically fought in fishman island

[pulsar path]

Well I guess she kinda fights spandam

[maiden saffron]

but not really

[pulsar path]

Or gets revenge lol

[fast pagoda]

I just think him only settling for being Whitebeard's #3 and trying to get him to achieve a goal WB didnt even want is definitely not fulfilled potential

[maiden saffron]

nami vs lafitte is gonna be lovely

[fast pagoda]

Brook still hasnt had a proper 1v1

[pulsar path]

Big mom!

[rain cedar]

Hardly a 1v1

[fast pagoda]

Yeah i was thinking of that but

[pulsar path]

Yo come on now

[royal orchid]

it was a stall

[fast pagoda]

We didnt see much of it

[pulsar path]

Bro won technically

[rain cedar]

Which is a shame because i love the way he fights

[fast pagoda]

I meant a 1v1 against a side villain that brook wins in

I said this before

[maiden saffron]

Brook being a swordsman and zoro stealing all the spotlight is honestly really sad

[fast pagoda]

It shoulda been jinbe vs jack

[maiden saffron]

his ice moves are awesome

[fast pagoda]

Brook vs whos who

[maiden saffron]

really need to see more of that stuff

[rain cedar]

Jack got done really dirty icl

[pulsar path]

I would like to see jinbei pushed to a limit

[rain cedar]

He's supposed to be level with king and Queen

And most of his fight was off screen with him getting clapped by Sulong

But wano was also a huge ass arc so im not complaining

[fast pagoda]

Jack and Smoothie man

[royal orchid]

jimbei could be doing more than being a fireman in the story

[pulsar path]

Yes

[rain cedar]

Yeah, Smoothie as well

[fast pagoda]

What was oda cooking

[pulsar path]

Ike for real

[fast pagoda]

Smoothie shoulda been on onigashima

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-jinbe-jinbei-jimbe-jimbei-gif-13353188015063970328

[pulsar path]

He's literally such an asset and they never get to use em. Can we get a sea fight?

[rain cedar]

Genuinely what was the BM pirates plot line in wano lmao

It was such a nothing burger

[royal orchid]

well every enemy is a devil fruit user now so

[fast pagoda]

I mean bm herself did a lot

[royal orchid]

no room for fish boy

[fast pagoda]

Perospero had something

[rain cedar]

I mean....he joined in wano so we can cut some slack

It's not like he has been here forever

[rain cedar]

I meant them getting kicked off repeatedly by Marco and then disappearing lol

Not BM herself. I liked BM aside from the amnesia

[pulsar path]

That's crazy tho think about this

Jinbei has been on the crew for 6 years?

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/egghead-one-piece-jinbe-zoro-roronoa-zoro-gif-10867377031330051779

[pulsar path]

That's like east blue to water 7?

[royal orchid]

he did absolutely nothing on egghead right?

[pulsar path]

He picked up Zoro.

[rain cedar]

Most of the SH did nothing

[royal orchid]

fair

[rain cedar]

With the exception of Brook because my goat got the ship ready to take off and Franky

Saving bonney and Luffy

[pulsar path]

Franky has had good moments if you ask me

[royal orchid]

Lilith and Brook great duo

[rain cedar]

He shouldve gotten the ODCs in egghead but they were busy escaping

Or whatever they are called

[pulsar path]

I guess that had to die so he could have Vega cola 🤣

[royal orchid]

I was so pumped for Franky's arc, Egghead

[fast pagoda]

Yeah i guess it was a gag

[pulsar path]

Vega Franky

[fast pagoda]

The way the crew was handled then proves to me even more this "yonko crew" nonsense in elbaph is dumb

[rain cedar]

Lowkenuinely they are though. It's just that the enemies have broken powers

I still excuse Gunko soloing like half of the crew because they can't deal damage anyway

[pulsar path]

Sooooo

Sommers and killinghamnfial miserably?

But he kills Gunko

[rain cedar]

I think its because Gunko tried to rebel

[pulsar path]

True

But still

[rain cedar]

She broke out of imus control and that probably pissed him off

[pulsar path]

I'll keep the worker who rebels that gets the work done other than two failures

[royal orchid]

death jail

10 minutes

[gritty vigil]

Did gunko really die

[pulsar path]

I mean they kinda alluded to it

She probably didn't die lol

[rain cedar]

Idts but it seems Imu was going for the kill instead of saving her from the prison?

[maiden saffron]

shes definitely alive

brook and her have some unresolved business

[pulsar path]

But Imu attempted to blow up

[gritty vigil]

Mhm deaths are rare

[pulsar path]

But probably not death

[rain cedar]

Did not expect a Brook plot line in Elbaf icl

[gritty vigil]

Yeah lol

This isn't usopps arc

[pulsar path]

I was but only cus I thought that he was xebec

[royal orchid]

imu didn't go heal her after destroying the ice and she was reportedly still down after minutes, imu's quite actively torturing her

[pulsar path]

🤣🤣🤣

[rain cedar]

Yeah, i think Imu doesn't counts her anymore as a GK

He would've given her Omen

[pulsar path]

True

[gritty vigil]

I'm glad they summoned imu lol killingham and sommers were boring

[pulsar path]

I mean her holy knightness has always been unique

Shamrock leaving was like a wow

[gritty vigil]

Their fight wasn't very interesting

[royal orchid]

granted if imu wasn't going to show up the fights wouldn't be boring lmao

killy would be unreachable, Sommers would actually have range and damage

y'know

[gritty vigil]

No cuz egghead was really interesting with all the elders

[royal orchid]

the elders are what imu is to elbaf

a more interesting comparison would be CP0

[gritty vigil]

I have faith in oda he won't make boring fights

[gritty vigil]

Cp0 and knights

[rain cedar]

Tbh I'm more interested in the aftermath of the fights than the fights themselves

Louis arnot, Gaban, biblo

Lots of lore dumps left

[pulsar path]

I kinda wanna know what's going outside elbaf

It's just weird that it seemed like we were getting a lot of cut aways before and elbaf hasn't really left elbaf other than flashbacks

I wonder if that means after elbaf will have like 5-10 non straw hats

Chsp

[rain cedar]

We still don't know what hes up to

[prisma yacht]

Bb days are coming

[pulsar path]

Maybe it won't be all off screened

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[fast pagoda]

No, I loved that

I have no problem with that

[cold steppe]

Not to mention she's Imu's number 2

Or was

[crude nebula]

Hes gonna be there

In mary geoise

[prisma yacht]

[warm sierra]

Lafitte will invade the flower room and then its empty

[dense haven]

how many breaks are still left

I can't handle this

[graceful grove]

44 this year

[vale heath]

one piece

[stone tulip]

Plus MMBF and Vivi too

[stone tulip]

10 is over kill

[pulsar path]

Chapters?

How many was marine piece five?

[stone tulip]

Egghead did have almost all of straw hats do something at the end.

Like Zoro was fighting Lucci and Nasujuro while Jinbe not only brings him back but also take the technology with him too which actually proved useful on Elbaf.

Franky and Sanji fought Saturn and Mars with former even managed take out one of vice admirals which makes him the first straw hat to do so.

Brook managed to send the ship to the straw hats but almost fell below labophase if it weren’t for Usopp to fully clutch in at final moment.

Nami was the one who took the commands of the crew while monster trio was absent and led them to protect an injured Robin against Saturn and had all of them managed to take out a lot of his body parts.

Robin is the only straw hat who didn’t do anything at the end considering she was injured off screen and had her being tended by Chopper for later half of it, but at least she did have some character moments in regards to Ohara books being still around and finding out Saul is still alive.

[stone tulip]

I mean all Yonko crews had been humiliated once or twice by someone weaker than them, them being Yonko crew now doesn’t suddenly make them immune at all.

[dense haven]

but there isn't anyone weaker than them in elbaf

I mean jinbe is the only one who got bodied by someone supposedly weaker

but thats debatable

gunkmu scaling is tuff

[grand flower]

Imu wasn’t possessing her then

She won because that’s the trope with trickery

Lose the first time, figure it out, do better

[grand flower]

Yeah it’s just folks underestimating the SHs for some reason

Big Mom’s full crew failed in WCI, Kaido lost a war, Whitebeard lost to the marines

Blackbeard almost got his entire squad wasted in Amazon Lily

BMs ship with Marco and King still gets memed on

This is why perspective is really important in forming takes

[glossy jolt]

Because they look at Chopper and Nami and think they're all weak af

But there's so much wrong with that whole mindset

As I call it...
DBZ mindset

[grand flower]

Yeah it’s all about raw power

Everyone comes in clutch

[glossy jolt]

I hate that shit, it's so dumb

The Strawhats are this strong because they all specialize in their own thing and that's why they're so strong together

[grand flower]

Exactly, theyre a Yonko crew

[glossy jolt]

A simple version of this is in opening 1 where Usopp throws an egg into a pirate's face which just confuses him and then Nami bonks him on the head

[grand flower]

People want them to be a crew of yonko lol

[glossy jolt]

Type shit

[grand flower]

Yeah it’s actually really cool how you can see the same essence of how they started

Now theyre just even better

[glossy jolt]

Exactly bro, I love every single Mugiwara because of it

[stone tulip]

Yeah just because the straw hats had been humiliated doesn’t mean they are weak, after all they managed to handle Killingham before his power up

[ashen perch]

https://x.com/i/status/2054138857893802191

Pew (@pewpiece)

🚨 OFFICIAL:

Eiichiro Oda sent a message to Kohei Tanaka (onepiece music composer) about the “Rain God Zaza”

“I want something terrifying but also cool. Please.”

Tanaka says Oda sent him this request through LINE

X · May 12, 2026, 9:57 AM

[sturdy steeple]

Elbaph OST is already peak

Really excited

[prisma yacht]

Wow

[ashen perch]

Oda might be on Twitter, Kohei Tanaka posted a tweet wondering how Zaza's music should sound and received this message on line 4 hours later 😭

[prisma yacht]

Big things coming for zaza

[stone tulip]

That’s the exactly the point but people are so brain rotted that they focus on powers scaling and downplay the weaker members out of agenda by calling them useless ignoring what they had done in the story.

Even Vivi herself got this treatment despite the fact that without her the straw hats wouldn’t even get to where they are with Nami being dead while Chopper and even Robin wouldn’t join the crew and Luffy wouldn’t learn an important lesson that he applied in Amazon Lily later on.

[glossy jolt]

SHIIIIIIT I'm hyped for the soundtrack in this scene

[sturdy steeple]

He’s 100% on Twitter. His account name is Greg.

[ashen perch]

Its probably just a funny coincidence tho but still lmao

[glossy jolt]

I'm even more hyped for Imu's voice when he descends, I hope it ain't the same as silhouette form

[stone tulip]

Someone might have sent him the tweet

[stone tulip]

Oh this is peak

[glossy jolt]

Not Oda himself, he definitely has people checking out stuff for him constantly

[urban sluice]

oh thats cool

[ashen perch]

yeah that'd make sense

[glossy jolt]

DUDE YES, YOU GET IT. I hate Vivi slander so much, she deserves to be part of the crew

[grand flower]

It reminds me of the bad takes about big mom being a less effective villain becausw she got embarrassed

[prisma yacht]

[grand flower]

Oda embarrasses the monster trio all the time

Nobody says theyre less effective heroes

[rose rune]

oda is a simple man who knows what he wants

[grand flower]

All about perspective

[grand flower]

I think Oda has said before he’s checked out some fan forums

[urban lodge]

Thank you Oda for your correct priorities

[sturdy steeple]

Don’t you dare to say that about our god saviour Zoro. He’s never embarrassed, he’s just not serious

[grand flower]

He’s joked about using the wiki to remember attacks

He’s probably vaguely aware but doesnt take much time to check us out

Oda would love me, I’ve figured out so much like time travel Luffy and Wano Akainu

[prisma yacht]

Yano

Akainu

[grand flower]

Yanonigashima

[stone tulip]

Exactly and not only she has a chance to reunite with the crew again but also she might be the new Zaza too so all of that “she can’t join because she is weak” would be all bullshit anyways.

But yeah people are way obsessed with power scaling to the point of they would rather replace characters who are strong on the crew just to make them more powerful (Yamato and Loki) while also slandering the whole crew especially the likes of Nami and Usopp.

[ashen perch]

He said he did once but got scared and doesn't even look up his name on the internet anymore lol

[prisma yacht]

silly odachi

[stone tulip]

That one reeks misogyny especially when Kaido also got similar treatment as her too and she was absolute monster during Wano multiple especially against Law and Kidd which she only lost because of a bomb.

[grand flower]

Indubitably

[stone tulip]

Can’t blame him, it’s better for mangaka’s mental health anyways

[ashen perch]

I've been seeing this take way too often that Oda would "never" embarrass his protagonists and that has gotta be a larper take man I can't take it seriously

[rose rune]

I always make sure to put on my tinted lens glasses before I read one piece

[grand flower]

The first time Luffy gets his Emperor of the Sea intro box

https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/One-Piece-Luffy-Emperor-introduction-Nami.jpg?q=50&fit=contain&w=1400&h=519&dpr=1.5

[stone tulip]

Like look at what happened to Isayama and Gege

[grand flower]

Yeah its 100% misogyny, fans project misogyny on Oda way more than the manga has ever been

[ashen perch]

I think its in Oda's nature to never make anyone perfect, nobody's really safe from some level of embarrassment and I see BM as no different. It doesn't take away from the other 5 million times she's portrayed

[grand flower]

Like Syv and Brago immediately assuming Gunko would be the weakest holy knight “becausw shes a woman and it’s Oda”

Aged like actual shit

[ashen perch]

I just saw someone say "okay Zaza is definitely the weakest god" the other day lol

It's just projection atp

[stone tulip]

I have deadass even seen a tweet about someone saying Zaza is weakest God with implications of that it’s because she is a woman

[stone tulip]

Same!

[grand flower]

lol mind you a woman has never been the weakest in a group

[crude nebula]

Who did gunko fight

[grand flower]

Gunko is by far the most efficient knight we’ve seen and when competing in me valley as a blade, she had better prospects than any of the other knights in individual scoring

Including Garling

[crude nebula]

Sure but if she was the strongest she’d be fighting either Zoro or Sanji

[ashen perch]

She's the reason why Gaban is lying as dead weight on the ground right now

[grand flower]

Monet isn’t stronger than Vergo

King isn’t stronger than big mom

Zoro beat Morgans, not Luffy

[glossy jolt]

In terms of power, I don't think she will get a rain ability but Kuma's DF

[crude nebula]

Punk Hazard is a mess

[ashen perch]

People also jumped to slander the crew instead of understanding how impressive Gunko was for taking out half the crew, including a billion berry man with ease

[glossy jolt]

And yes, caring so much about raw power in One Piece is dumb, those mfs would be the easiest to Domi Reversi

[stone tulip]

Yeah happened so many times like how they slandered Vivi cause she cried so much despite the fact that she never did that until Arabasta where she was genuinely hopeless to see her country being in brink of destruction, or how people are mad about Bonney copying Nika’s powers despite the fact that it was build up to this moment for a long time, or how people are very harsh on Nami everytime she is mean towards Luffy despite the fact that other straw hats were just as mean as her (especially Sanji) yet they didn’t get any flacks for it.

[glossy jolt]

Morgans?

[ashen perch]

Pica's not stronger than Trebol either tbh

[glossy jolt]

You mean Axe Hand Morgan

[grand flower]

Morgan*

Yeah

[glossy jolt]

Gotcha

But that was teamwork

[ashen perch]

Trebol was clearly the defacto #2 for Doflamingo, even when Vergo was the Corazon

[grand flower]

Also Katakuri in WCI

Wasn’t the strongest

Big Mom was

Kizaru also seems to be much more combat capable than any of the elders

[glossy jolt]

Most One Piece fans don't understand what it's about

They just want big fights and big explosions

Imagine how many mfs got mad when G5 came out

[crude nebula]

We all want that

[ashen perch]

Lucci was like #7 in Egghead

[rich hornet]

Big fights are the worst part of the series

[crude nebula]

Powerscaling is keeping the community alive not themes and shit

[hazy turret]

Son…

[rose rune]

mom

[urban lodge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/738580480437387264/1159920828725596200/IMG_5033.gif

[stone tulip]

There had been exceptions to formula before like drum island for example Zoro never fought anyone in that arc and Sanji briefly fought one of Wapol’s henchmen before Chopper handled them both, same with Skypiea as well

[ashen perch]

Nakama.

[hazy turret]

!sakazuki

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/164971940648321024/1478656677174837399/IMG_1640.png?ex=69a931d7&is=69a7e057&hm=24f054872549887afe33613c0e5d6ccc9058af32bc4d13d07f729b90fdc945dc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1325&height=536

[glossy jolt]

I mean c'mon, don't exagerate

[sturdy steeple]

At the time they started fighting him he was #2

[ashen perch]

Has anyone done that? I think there's a lot of potential here

[glossy jolt]

Not JUST that

[rich hornet]

It’s true. They are more bloat than they are worth

[hazy turret]

If you know which picture to use I can make it happen

[ashen perch]

Hmm

[rose rune]

hm... yeah, ok. the worst part is people being stuck for an extended period of time

[ashen perch]

I'll see if I can find something

[stone tulip]

I don’t think Zaza is devil fruit but inherited powers which explains about what Lili had done and what happened between Arabasta and Wano imo

[glossy jolt]

I think the worst part of the series is the amount of NPC characters

[crude nebula]

And why would I cater to the less likely option? If you’re saying she was impressive against the weak straw hats I can just bring up Sommers embarrassing Robin in the same manner, and if you bring up Gaban its just a hostage situation

[glossy jolt]

I genuinely don't care about 95% of characters in One Piece

[glossy jolt]

This is valid

[ashen perch]

Eh I mean Saturn was already on the island, so #3 at best.

[stone tulip]

They also did that with Imu but huge difference is that there had been a lot of people who hyped up Imu as well, like come on agenda itself reeks misogyny

[glossy jolt]

Fair enough, it could be like Nika who simply had the powers and those powers were turned into a DF, that's how I see it at least

[rich hornet]

Characters and world building are where Oda shines as a writer. That’s a shame

[glossy jolt]

Who's agenda?

[urban lodge]

I mostly don't mind them because they make the world feel more alive, but sometimes like in Wano with all the ninjas and yakuza I think they didn't really need to exist and make things a little bloated

[glossy jolt]

That's also fair, but there's just WAYYY too many characters

[rose rune]

yeah, wano was way too bloated with characters

[urban lodge]

Funnily enough I didn't feel that at all in Dressrosa even if that's one of the biggest complaints

[glossy jolt]

Like, you can see 6 characters in a group where just 1 would be enough to send the message across

[stone tulip]

You are being unironically this

[urban lodge]

I actually like the colosseum part

[glossy jolt]

What I'm saying

[rich hornet]

For sure, he did more than he had time to resolve

[glossy jolt]

Yep, I was talking mostly about Wano

[stone tulip]

In general like notice how none of huge agendas are related to female characters

[rose rune]

he could easily have cut out all of the yakuza

[sturdy steeple]

Welp, kind of. Saturn hadn’t landed yet.

[crude nebula]

Who is genuinely forcing themselves to like and talk about good writing like thats so performative

[sturdy steeple]

It was solely Kizaru and Lucci there. Then Saturn appears.

[crude nebula]

We all like hype moments and aura

[glossy jolt]

Well, have you considered that Oda might be telling people about the misogyny throughout history in the real world?

Symbolically I mean

[stone tulip]

She literally also kicked Loki’s ass too but sure

[small ember]

Also some of the scabbards ngl? Or at least given some of them more room

[rich hornet]

And the reason why characters can feel too much is because they take part in the action some how making the fights too big and everything slows down more

[crude nebula]

Don krieg can do the same lmao

Hes chained up

[rose rune]

I've been saying this, but people always disagree

[stone tulip]

Only brainless idiots care about agenda

[glossy jolt]

Yep yep

[rose rune]

I think Oda could have combined some of the scabbards

make two of them one character instead

[small ember]

Trying to think of which scabbards got the most love by Oda. Obv Kinemon, Kiku, and Denjiro?

[urban lodge]

I guess some scabbards didn't need to exist but I still think they're a net positive to the story

[grand flower]

He couldn’t cut the yakuza, theyre connective tissue for the Wano/navy reveal coming later

Trust

[glossy jolt]

Oh actually, ACTUALLY, the worst thing in One Piece is the pacing, THAT'S it

[small ember]

Asura was ehhhh

[stone tulip]

Could be although Nika was implied to be an exception according to Harley text

[urban lodge]

Cook

[grand flower]

Most people don’t realize that the vast majority of things in every story don’t need to be there

[glossy jolt]

Not in early One Piece tho, the pacing there is fine, not including prolonged shots in the anime

[sturdy steeple]

Hotei my goat

[ashen perch]

I dunno, they're basically decorations for the world, the Oniwabanshu or the Mimawarigumi or the Yakuza were just fun little additions to the world of Wano that was inspired by Japan and didn't actually get a ton of screentime to actually feel like bloat

[small ember]

Kawamatsu could have been combined with someone else

[grand flower]

I disagree

[rose rune]

honestly I don't feel the pacing too much when I read the manga. I feel like that's more of an anime issue

[stone tulip]

He was pretty blunt about it actually

[grand flower]

People using “pacing” when all they really mean is “the story is long”

[small ember]

Biggest issue is prob cluttering arcs with too many things ngl

[grand flower]

OP is just a big story

[small ember]

Mainly post ts

[glossy jolt]

Yeahhhh, we just don't know for now

It's all theories

[grand flower]

I don’t find any arc cluttered fr

Because the stuff is there for some reason

[stone tulip]

This is only true if it’s anime but manga ? It feels fine tbh

[rose rune]

the one part I can think of where I really don't like the pacing is at skypeia when they're doing the balls thing

[glossy jolt]

I respect it

[stone tulip]

Yeah it isn’t confirmed but the whole Zaza thing does have huge implications

[glossy jolt]

I probably should've specified anime

[ashen perch]

The Yakuza were basically just Hyogoros little contribution to the army, the Oniwaban and Mimawarigumi were Orochi's contribution to his side, so they did play their limited roles and that was fine

[small ember]

Yeah good point. I guess cluttered was a strong word and we don’t know what will be relevant in the future. I guess there’s some interesting moments or characters that don’t get enough space sometimes

[glossy jolt]

Imagine what's gonna happen in the next few chapters now with a flood

[urban lodge]

Yeah exactly, most things in one piece actually didn't "need" to be there, but they still make the story so much better. The warlords for example, they weren't part of the original plan, but they're some of the most beloved characters in the story, I can't imagine one piece without them

[final trench]

The purge

[urban lodge]

Same with the supernova

[glossy jolt]

Every DF user gonna struggle

[small ember]

[rich hornet]

The part of any arc where we have to clean up the lesser lieutenants is always the most boring. But you can’t just skip to the monster trio either

[final trench]

I assume people are gonna get killed over territory, boats, possibly weapons

[small ember]

I gotta reread one piece…one day…

[stone tulip]

I do think next few chapters might set up major fights for all straw hats

[rose rune]

hmmm... not really. I find perona vs usopp way more entertaining that the crew vs oars and gecko moria

[glossy jolt]

For ALL of them? Nahhh there's too much chaos going on, plus Imu and Zaza, I think the best decision would be to reunite and/or save the people of Elbaf, most likely let Luffy take care of Imu alongside Loki

[rose rune]

the trio fights were the most boring in thriller bark

[glossy jolt]

Nah but imagine Luffy G5 fighting against Imu who might use attacks similar to G5

Shiiiieeeeet

[rose rune]

ok, I actually forgot about hogback

that was barely a fight

[rich hornet]

That’s an exception. That’s a case where Usopp got one of the premier fights. Perona wasnt a grunt

[stone tulip]

Not really chaotic cause I did my own match up here:

Luffy and Loki vs Imu (which is gonna get interrupted)

Zoro vs Sommars

Sanji vs Killingham

Nami, Jinbe, Franky, Chopper, and other giants vs Zaza and other MMA

Brook and Usopp (if they are still able to fight) vs Gunko (if she is freed)

Only Robin is I am currently uncertain off right now.

[ashen perch]

I just cant agree with this because Oda's fights are so character centred that I'm always invested in them figuring out how to succeed (or not, sometimes) and how they're going to come out of it.

I think Wano did have its issues though with what the Jack, Peros and Sasaki fights were like but generally what I said is true

[rose rune]

I tend to like the fights with the weaker fighters more than the strong dudes

[glossy jolt]

Okay lemme stop you at Brook and Usopp, ain't no way Gunko is an enemy anymore

[fallen meteor]

We breaking right

[ashen perch]

Robin will help out against Sommers I feel

[rich hornet]

I struggle to think of a time where I was actually worried how a SH would overcome something. I know it’s happened. Closest I can think is Usopp and Page 1, but that didn’t happen

[urban lodge]

Robin will be moral support against Zaza

[ashen perch]

I mean we know they're going to succeed, the fun is in seeing the how

[rose rune]

I am a Robin fan, but I'm sorry Arsal... that's not happening

[maiden charm]

ussop and trebol comes to mind

[stone tulip]

The Perona fight is still hands down the best Usopp fight

[maiden charm]

Usopp *

[stone tulip]

It depends cause if she is still under Imu’s control then she is still a threat plus I think it’s more of psychological battle really

[rose rune]

I agree, but I would accept someone saying luffy vs usopp as well

[glossy jolt]

Nope, Imu tried to kill her, Gunko is OUTTA THERE

[maiden charm]

I agree with this aswell

[ashen perch]

Let's see

[stone tulip]

Would be cool but maybe she may also help out with Zaza situation as well ?

[maiden charm]

Jimbei vs zaza perhaps ?

Id kill for that

[stone tulip]

That one is great although I was excluding straw hat vs straw hat fights

[ashen perch]

DF user so I doubt she can help with Zaza

[maiden charm]

Or vegapunk might freeze her

[rich hornet]

Well imu fired a blast at her while she was frozen and killingham guessed she was dead. Can’t presume Imu’s intention yet

[glossy jolt]

Do her limbs work underwater since she's not underwater herself? If so she could help all the DF users and/or giants to stay above the water

[urban lodge]

She does have one fishman karate attack

[rose rune]

I didn't exclude it, and I still love the perona fight more

[prisma yacht]

[ashen perch]

Yea but she can drown

[stone tulip]

I think Imu tried to free her from the ice instead but couldn’t because of Ragnir’s powers maybe

[glossy jolt]

I think it's quite obvious Imu wants Gunko dead for betraying him

[maiden charm]

We never saw the block after the explosion again tho right ?

[rich hornet]

I think it’s is possible but I don’t see it as obvious

[urban lodge]

He's super spiteful, I think so too

[rose rune]

"my toy is broken now, I don't need it anymore"
insert toy story meme

[stone tulip]

I mean powers do still work as we see with Luffy himself but she still can drown

[glossy jolt]

The second part is true, that's why Gunko is alive, I dunno about the first

[rustic coral]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/2054138857893802191 @ashen perch this true?

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“I want something terrifying but also cool. Please.”

Tanaka says Oda sent him this request through LINE

X · May 12, 2026, 9:57 AM

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[stone tulip]

We never did hence why I said if she is freed or not, I highly doubt Imu wants to kill her now

[ornate tartan]

zaza 😩

[rustic coral]

What the source

[final trench]

Bros already looking for the music

[glossy jolt]

Just gotta keep herself out of the water too

[final trench]

Goda?

[ashen perch]

The guy Kohei Tanaka himself

[stone tulip]

Guess we will see in next chapter then

[stone tulip]

Yep

[rustic coral]

Where

[final trench]

Oh yeah robin handling zaza

[glossy jolt]

Just gotta wait 2 weeks...

Haha...

[stone tulip]

As long as she doesn’t drown she might be able to help

[rustic coral]

Didnt oda ask him for Drums of Liberation too

[stone tulip]

Yeah lmao

[urban lodge]

On the bright side break week means double the time with embed perms

[stone tulip]

It’s pretty much all of the straw hats minus monster trio, Usopp, and Brook would fight against Zaza

[maiden charm]

I dont think imu wants to either, she still has use and I can just imagine tightening her reigns. But wasn't sure,cause the way you worded it implied she's still in the ice

[stone tulip]

I mean her still being in the ice could explain why Killingham thought that she is dead, but yeah doubt Imu wants her to die

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-tucker-son-giftok-im-crine-slow-walk-gif-10770380443166414376

[fervent fable]

Vivi, nami or dragon who is more deserving canditate to become rain god zaza

[ornate tartan]

killingham can wipe out the entire navy with his dream monsters lmao vice admirals and the entire organization

only if the navy admirals got involved would they deal with them

[glossy jolt]

Me

[final trench]

Vivi

[trim lily]

nami is an objectively evil choice

[forest jacinth]

Vivi

[fervent fable]

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-tung-sahur-brainrot-baseball-gif-13999381090646842001

[prisma yacht]

So glue

[maiden charm]

Tbh, vivi seems more likely, and it would be nice for dragon to not be a god fruit

[final trench]

Idk if vivi will need a fruit thats the hard part

[fervent fable]

Why

[glossy jolt]

But I do wonder... how could Zaza be defeated? She seems to be made of pure water and she's enormous

[ornate tartan]

the draugr is stronger then any VA

[prisma yacht]

Naki fans are greedy

[ornate tartan]

it dwarfed Loki

[prisma yacht]

Nami

[fervent fable]

Then what would be dragons df

[glossy jolt]

CHOPPER WILL DEFEAT ZAZA BY SLAPPING HER

[prisma yacht]

Sommers daughter imu's daughter

[maiden charm]

Vegapunk tech and group effort

[final trench]

Oda already drew nami with the rumble fruit so its already in motion

[prisma yacht]

Now rain god nami

They want everything

Not to mention another backstory

[final trench]

Bro

We need to know what happened at oykot

[maiden charm]

I think its a wind related, probably a logia

[urban lodge]

Sanji will cook for Zaza

[trim lily]

zaza will fall for zanji

[prisma yacht]

oykot was a hunting ground

more oykot means more from bellemere

[final trench]

“You remind me of… #him”

[crude nebula]

Will cook zaza

[final trench]

Vinsmoke romeo backstory

[final trench]

Possibly

[urban lodge]

He physically can't

[crude nebula]

He can boil her

[prisma yacht]

Jimbei will deal with zaza

[final trench]

And i think a certain individual helped stop it

[latent hamlet]

Zaza is a woman
Did u forget that

[prisma yacht]

[maiden charm]

We have seen him use his fruit twice, and it had the kanji representing a storm blowing or hard gust of wind. So maybe he does have a weather god fruit but im hoping he has a wind logia to break away from the line of God fruits

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-dragon-one-piece-one-piece-monkey-d-dragon-revolutionary-army-gif-27117378

[glossy jolt]

Make Holy Zaza by boiling the hell outta her

[prisma yacht]

Zaza will flush sanji away to where sommers is

[crude nebula]

I guess

[prisma yacht]

Franky and jimbei vs killy

[warm sierra]

Kanji? You mean like sfx?

[glossy jolt]

Shiiiiit that would explain why Luffy was in FUUSHA VILLAGE

[latent hamlet]

Is killer ham racist towards cyborgs

[prisma yacht]

I don't think so

[rose rune]

toei fishman island Robin isn't real, she can't hurt you

[glossy jolt]

Kiddyjam is racist to anyone who isn't a CD

[latent hamlet]

Why Bonney looking like "embrace the dark side robin'

[maiden charm]

Yea but it didn't say whoosh and brrrr
It was a specific kanji(or if there is a proper name,im open to be corrected) that was used both instances he used his fruit.that represented heavy gust of wind or a storm blowing

[glossy jolt]

Ain't no way this isn't edited

I don't remember that shot

[prisma yacht]

Totally not edited bro

[warm sierra]

I would have to see the instances to be able to say for sure

[prisma yacht]

[final trench]

Only fishmen

[glossy jolt]

Holy mother of Robin

[stone tulip]

Vivi cause not only Arabasta is thematically connected with rain (dance powder, Rainbase, the whole conflict was absence of rain and how it was implied that Vivi was the one who brought the rain back) but also would explain so much about void century and why Imu targeted her especially it might explain how Lili scattering poneglphy and why Arabasta has the poneglphy of Pluton’s location which at old Wano where it was flooded by rain which lines up with Imu’s goal of flooding the world right now.

[bold sonnet]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/2054138857893802191?s=20

Pew (@pewpiece)

🚨 OFFICIAL:

Eiichiro Oda sent a message to Kohei Tanaka (onepiece music composer) about the “Rain God Zaza”

“I want something terrifying but also cool. Please.”

Tanaka says Oda sent him this request through LINE

X · May 12, 2026, 9:57 AM

[maiden charm]

It was when he stopped smoker and when he saved the residents of the goa kingdom from the flame wall in the asl flashback. I would have to look for the panels

[rustic coral]

Oda probably thinks Dragon is cool so it's probably Dragon

[stone tulip]

Nami sorta makes sense as well but I am leaning towards Vivi

[maiden charm]

Ooo perhaps

[stone tulip]

She might have just born with it just like Shirahoshi

[glossy jolt]

And north of it was Dawn Island

Which is where Shanks and company wanted to go

[maiden charm]

Here's one of the panels

[stone tulip]

Dragon is more associated with wind anyways and if he was new Zaza then he would have used rain during grey terminal incident which he didn’t

[dense haven]

this writes like a sandman post

[glossy jolt]

Rewatching OP from the beginning is making me realize sooooo many things, it's insane

[ornate tartan]

vivi rain god?

[bold sonnet]

Maybe he is sandman

[balmy field]

thriller bark was js OARS

[glossy jolt]

San D. Man

[rustic coral]

https://x.com/kenokun/status/2054036993064251584

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X · May 12, 2026, 3:12 AM

[final trench]

Facts

[bold sonnet]

He wants something terrifying? Bro missed out on 6ix9ine fefe

[rustic coral]

Tanaka's post abt it

[maiden charm]

Also when he returned to the ship

[final trench]

He used the wind to stop the fire

[sturdy steeple]

This is my theory but I feel like the gods today are the people with the specific devil fruits like Luffy

[final trench]

[rustic coral]

Rain and Wind can be the same thing

[warm sierra]

Thats Katakana used for SFX, baki baki is like cracking I think? Here is something else with Kanji but its a statement from someone talking about a wind blast

[sturdy steeple]

So Dragon being the rain god does make more sense to me

Than Vivi or Nami

[glossy jolt]

No, but they do go hand in hand most of the time

[rustic coral]

Like all dfs come from a god/person?

[maiden charm]

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-sonic-sanic-movie-journey-to-manhog-journey-2-manhog-gif-3275594569739541377

[ashen perch]

https://x.com/i/status/2054036993064251584

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X · May 12, 2026, 3:12 AM

[rustic coral]

I found ty

[sturdy steeple]

No, I meant that these different Gods (Like Sun God) today are in the form of Devil Fruits. Nika is the first one we saw so far.

[maiden charm]

Katakana is the right word, thank you. But yea see, dragon is always associated with wind which is all im saying

[glossy jolt]

That's what I've said

[ornate tartan]

so if dragon is the rain god and luffy is the sun god what god is garp?

[rustic coral]

I think all dfs come from a god/person

[glossy jolt]

The God of Punch

[rose rune]

I grabbed the pic from the fishman island remake comparison

[warm sierra]

The translation is so glue, to me its not scary but cool but the scariness and coolness are supposed to be related

[sturdy steeple]

I mean, maybe
But that’s another thing

[glossy jolt]

One Punch Garp

[sturdy steeple]

I would expect Rain God or Godess to be the one with the fruit

[glossy jolt]

EEWWWWWW WHAT THE FUUUUUUUCK

[sturdy steeple]

Same goes to Forest God and Sea God

[maiden charm]

Vegapunks hypothesis is right on the money imo, and dfs come from the desires of these gods to be perpetrated through the ages

[glossy jolt]

Nahhhhh that's Lobbin

[rose rune]

it served as proof for her alien lineage for several years until the remake fixed it

[rustic coral]

@sturdy steeple are you excited for the new OSTs?

[prisma yacht]

Shuron was right

[glossy jolt]

Thank fuck

But Robin and/or Nami are definitely related to Imu's bloodline

[trim lily]

definitely

[warm sierra]

Definitely doing a crazy amount of lifting there

[glossy jolt]

I mentioned the Nero theory earlier for Nami and Robin is the demon child