also-manga

[ashen perch]

???

[unkempt dagger]

Loki awakening his fruit during his fight with Imu would be breaking the charts

[ashen perch]

I didnt know Loki was a poneglyph

[obtuse imp]

Loki can barely control his normal transformation let alone awakening

[hasty sable]

Most of them anyway lol

[ashen perch]

name a few

[warm falcon]

the discussion is good today

[muted hedge]

Loki has shown very good control, i don't know what you mean

[past flax]

archer and arsal at it again huh

[muted hedge]

the only negative for Loki is that he has a hard time hitting smaller opponents

[somber flare]

Western dragons are so much better than those stupid snakes

[final trench]

Loki just hasnt used hybrid form yet

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-mhw-wilds-rey-dau-lightning-gif-15853882307096777985

[unkempt dagger]

Its the full zoan transformation that would be draining. I understand

[prisma yacht]

Next chappy fs

[somber flare]

It’s hard to imagine Loki’s dragon form anywhere other than Elbaph. He’d just be bigger than every other island.

[ashen perch]

there are similarities ofc, but those are just real, not headcanons...

[stone terrace]

You just look at loki and wonder how the fuck shanks beat this guy

[ashen perch]

mid diff

[muted hedge]

the only thing which might be larger than Loki's Nidhoggr form is whatever Imu can transform into

[muted hedge]

oh, and the hellflame serpent

[obtuse imp]

Are we gonna size scale using the mural

[muted hedge]

the hellflame serpent is probably the biggest thing, out of all

yes

[past flax]

the shanks powerscalers are gonna use this for centuries on why hes the best

[unkempt dagger]

It must be Imu’s strongest summon

[ornate tartan]

and luffy when he turns into an abnormal size

he potentially might grab the sword in elbaph

[muted hedge]

so far Luffy hasn't shown anything close to that size

[obtuse imp]

Loki upscale is a pre-Yami BB upscale

[muted hedge]

but it's probably coming

[muted hedge]

it's not, Shanks was scarred before he fought off Loki

[obtuse imp]

We did this for like 6 months in Wano

I’m ok

[muted hedge]

it's very likely that Blackbeard scarring Shanks is what caused Shanks to grow tremendously as well

[hearty shore]

for imu's theme i think it will sound something like dr facilier's ritualistic songs from the princess and the frog movie

[muted hedge]

i don't remember that theme, but sounds awesome

[hearty shore]

https://klipy.com/gifs/are-you-71b--k01KRBT6YH15P5XWTN65PB8GZBM

[muted hedge]

oh hell yeah

[ornate tartan]

you know that really doesn’t seem possible now that I think of it

that sword is just ridiculously too big

[muted hedge]

now i want to hear Imu sing friends on the other side

[ornate tartan]

Lokis Nidhogg form probably would be 15-20% of the sword in elbaph

[muted hedge]

not close

[ornate tartan]

maybe even less

[muted hedge]

Nidhoggr is still margianally smaller compared to the sword

[hearty shore]

yk i didn't vibe with bellemere's hair style until today

[pulsar path]

It looks pretty dope there huh

[fervent fable]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-16179212359704353272

[muted hedge]

it's actually unwieldly

[stone terrace]

A literal titan would have to spawn

Onigashima sword theories were already pushing it

[unreal tinsel]

usopp could do it

[pulsar path]

Lol what

[ashen perch]

God of War Elbaf was probably that big

[alpine trench]

TCB 🤮

[muted hedge]

the only people i can see wield it would be those who can manipulate their size at will
so like Luffy, Imu and Bonney potentially

[knotty root]

I wonder how much of a buff would aramaki would get if he used his tree form on water

[ornate tartan]

what about Nika with his ability Arsal

[ashen perch]

whose skull is Onigashima

[pulsar path]

Sanjuan

[muted hedge]

i'm sure there's more people who can manipulate their size

[ashen perch]

maybe yeah

[muted hedge]

no, he is at the max size if i remember correctly

i don't think he can grow further

[pulsar path]

Wtf

Weak ass devil fruit

[hasty sable]

Never

[pulsar path]

BB

[muted hedge]

still fucking huge

[hasty sable]

Never hard to imagine for me how Shanks beats someone

[muted hedge]

but not huge enough

[hasty sable]

Shanks didn’t just beat him he dragged him back to Elbaf and chained him up

[pulsar path]

Loki is as big as ors right

[muted hedge]

Zoro said so, yeah

[sly belfry]

wano

[runic dock]

Facts

[pulsar path]

Damn sanjuan is pretty huge

[runic dock]

Shanks hype

[hasty sable]

Shanks probably oneshot Loki

[ornate tartan]

sanjuan is huge and still manages to be a member of a crew

[hearty shore]

you know what would be lowk dope? a devil fruit where you can shrink enough until you reach your Schwarzschild radius and you create a black hole and lowk destroy everything

[ornate tartan]

he’s so big that he just walks in the ocean

[muted hedge]

i think that Shanks definitely intervened with Loki because Loki tried to go to Marijoa

[prisma yacht]

Collosal titan 😭😆

[muted hedge]

Shanks knew that he'd die if he did, so his attempt of stopping him was defeating him

[muted hedge]

fuck aot

[pulsar path]

Sounds like a nen ability lol

[runic dock]

They all have their own ships and he can shrink and when he gets bigger he can walk in water

[hasty sable]

Divine Departure is too strong

[past flax]

is that why Loki has that bounty

[pulsar path]

Technically he's on the cover of vol 1

[runic dock]

When sanjuan shrinks he’s smaller than Loki

Loki is ancient giant

[hot cairn]

there's no way Loki got one shotted, he's too strong

[pulsar path]

I'd only Loki ate the giant giant fruit

Also you are the liquor !!

[hasty sable]

Kid got oneshot

[muted hedge]

could be, coupled with his immense strength, royal lineage and race

[past flax]

unless oda downgrades Loki which i hope he doesnt, theres no way for him to join the SHs with him being over powered like that

[hot cairn]

Kid and Loki arent comparable

[pulsar path]

Randy booooobandy!!

[hasty sable]

They are

[runic dock]

Nidhogg is more perfect to eat , it gotta be utilized by an ancient giant

[muted hedge]

as well as Nidhoggr and Ragnir

[hot cairn]

Loki aint joining

[ashen perch]

it wasnt a oneshot, but it could have been a mid diff tbh

[pulsar path]

True but imagine God big Loki would be

[hot cairn]

it's bait

[runic dock]

I am the liquor Randy

[pulsar path]

I mean Loki can probably eat two fruits

[muted hedge]

Shanks will exploit the weakness we know Loki has, which is that he has a hard time against smaller opponents

[ashen perch]

I do think it was tough for Shanks 6 years ago and he's now atleast capable of doing it mid diff

[hasty sable]

It isn’t bait man loool

[ornate tartan]

i think it’s more likely shanks swiftly dealt with loki in one or two moves, i don’t think a extended fight would be easy for shanks Loki is a behemoth

[runic dock]

Idk about that lol

[pulsar path]

I love that's show and he's was the best part about it rip Mr layhey 😭 also isn't he's Ricky's dad lmao 😭🤣🤣

[fervent fable]

I am supriesed zunesha didnt turn into a devil fruit instead he kept aura walking for 800 years

[muted hedge]

Shanks will blitz around Loki like a bolt of haki

[hasty sable]

Kid has a 3 billion bounty and helped kill an emperor. HOW IS HE NOT COMPARABLE

I don’t even like Kid that much

[runic dock]

RIP though…

[muted hedge]

by the way i'd really like to see Shanks react to what's going down on Elbaph

these are his friends after all

[fervent fable]

Roger's kamusari critically damaged oden but didnt one shot him, oden > kid

[hearty shore]

he ran away

cuz he lowk knows hes a fraud and a rat

[muted hedge]

come on

that's not even worth entertaining

[runic dock]

Shanks be like “imu? Hmmm luffy got this btw WHERE TJE FUCK IS BLACKBEARD!?”

Tell me I’m wrong

[muted hedge]

Shanks had no idea all of this would happen, plus he was going to Bartolomeo because of his duties as an emperor of the sea

[pulsar path]

Idk I always been the supporter of the world government lying about double fruits but idk or or. You gotta pick the right bows to combine like I think you can only ever have one zoan or no zoan cus they have wills while paramecia or Logai seem to be liniage alternations, it could also be someone exploded from eating a unawaoned zoan with another one and didn't know it was a zoan but yeah yeah ik probably not but untill BB is explained I think world government be poppy.cock !

[prisma yacht]

poppy cock

[ornate tartan]

and if you understand shanks character he’s not the type of guy who goes around boasting his strength and terrorizing people, but when his crew or friends are threatened or he has something important to do he unleashes a lot of power

Blackbeard is kinda similar with not just going around flexing strength like Kaido which is why characters like these probably don’t have titles

[prisma yacht]

poopy cock

[past flax]

im just saying for the people who do want him to join theres no way

[unreal tinsel]

how would shanks know whats happenng in elbaph? am i missings smth?

[ornate tartan]

not possible lol

[prisma yacht]

[muted hedge]

i don't think that Shanks main priority would be Blackbeard in this instance, this would be the first time witnessing the "great one" as he otherwise know of Imu as

[ornate tartan]

they aren’t a wg affiliated nation

[runic dock]

If it was really a lie more people would have tried it to test it I think , and there would be more double users , especially celestials

[hot cairn]

I'm talking about Loki joining, it's bait just like Yamato was

[pulsar path]

The actual actor was really good I remember seeing him in I think it was the dome? 😔

[ornate tartan]

there’s no cipher pol to leak info to morgans like in wano

[hasty sable]

Oh

[ornate tartan]

no one knows what’s going on in elbaph and no one is coming

[runic dock]

Shanks has never focused on imu at all , since the start of the series his concern has only ever been bb

[muted hedge]

part of me believes that Shanks true goal is actually to defeat Imu so Shamrock is free to go his own way

[ornate tartan]

the strawhats and the nation of elbaph will have to pull through somehow

[muted hedge]

yeah, since he needs the one who finds the one piece to be the right person

[runic dock]

Brilliant actor

[past flax]

i dont think alot of them know how to even get to elbaph now anyway

[muted hedge]

Shanks has his own plan for the new generation

[unreal tinsel]

nah shanks wants the one piece, just like any pirate

[pulsar path]

I mean would you eat a bag of chips that one chip was poisonous tho? That's just my thought process or like It has to be special combonaction meals of devil fruits to get the desired result like they gotta be compatible

[past flax]

if thats the case he would of been looking for it, hes just now focusing on it

[pulsar path]

But I get ya we really have not seen Any one else double fruit

[muted hedge]

Shanks going for it at this time, is a clear cut indicator that Nika's awakening is needed

[hasty sable]

Luffy did just break the status quo tbf. It’s never been more possible to get the One Piece with Kaido and Mom dead

Stalemate is broken

[ornate tartan]

and there is one thing that Oda has always stayed consistent with

when there is a nation depending on the strawhats for protection they haven’t failed yet in the entire series

their only 3 big setbacks were in sabaody, whole cake, and egghead which had nothing to do with defending a country

in this instance Imu most definitely isn’t losing but Elbaph won’t get destroyed either it will more likely be a situation where neither side wins

[muted hedge]

Kilingham and Sommers will probably be successful in capturing the children

there would be no point in them going after it again if they were going to lose the goal again

especially now when Sanji and Zoro are both injured coupled with this

[prisma yacht]

Imu not losing means him getting the kids

[muted hedge]

i am intrigued to see what's going on with Gunko since i doubt that Imu straight up killed her

[ornate tartan]

they will take the kids i think

but as far as elbaph the nation will be intact

[unreal tinsel]

gunko has the most useful fruit for imu right now, i doubt shes actually gone

[prisma yacht]

Yeah I mean

Why wld they fail again

[muted hedge]

or... Imu has had enough of the power struggle between their will and Gunko's own will so they resorted to just end it once and for all

[pulsar path]

I think this is what happen

[hasty sable]

I think Imu doesn’t achieve anything

[pulsar path]

Gunko will end up on the state hats ship lol

Straw

And will get out back story later for her and brook when she wakes up

[prisma yacht]

So a major L before the actual war takes place

[muted hedge]

by the way this is definitely the rain god Zaza's doing

[hasty sable]

Yeah

[unreal tinsel]

i think this is just set up for brooks backstory, this isnt the right arc for him i believe

[hasty sable]

A major L

There’s no winning for the bad guys here

[muted hedge]

there definitely is

[pulsar path]

My issue is like what's does that mean for next arc

[barren token]

Guys this time for sure

[pulsar path]

Like the straw hats are going to go after the kids if they got them

[unreal tinsel]

is there a chance for a sabaody situation with training arcs for the straw hats + loki?

[muted hedge]

the next arc will probably the centered on Blackbeard and Hachinosu

[barren token]

They will lose this time for sure

[prisma yacht]

No

[pulsar path]

But than that means we ant going for the onepeice

We're going to holy land next arc

[barren token]

I know we said this about wci and wano and egghead but it's different this time

[balmy field]

W name

[muted hedge]

they should lose this time

[pulsar path]

I mean they lost egghead

[prisma yacht]

It's the main villain this time

[pulsar path]

That was an l

[prisma yacht]

[fervent fable]

Loki being ragnirs pet 🥹

[muted hedge]

if it wasn't for Emeth they would've lost on Egghead yeah

Emeth was the only reason why they managed to get out

[unreal tinsel]

are we sure? couldnt there always be someone higher?

[pulsar path]

They did lose tho vegapunk was "killed " and they didn't stop the recording from being interrupted

That's an l

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/son-sonion-walking-walking-slow-guy-gif-3446823128170294184

[hasty sable]

Imu was cooked the moment his objective was kidnapping children

[urban lodge]

Imu is actually the weakest subordinate of the space pirate king

[muted hedge]

how?

[unreal tinsel]

i mean there are gods, so why couldnt there be stronger gods, there are no limits to gods

[pulsar path]

Space piece will be best piece

[prisma yacht]

I'd drop op

[pulsar path]

Your not ready for the space dragons

[ornate tartan]

it just goes to show how valuable the allegiance of the giants is

[unreal tinsel]

enel will return

[pulsar path]

Enel is the rain god

[muted hedge]

Gunko told us straight up that the giants will be the deciding factor

[pulsar path]

He just didn't unlock the rain power yet

[hasty sable]

We’re never seeing Urouge again are we

[pulsar path]

Wait what is enels fruit again exactly

Thunder thunder or storm storm

[barren token]

zaza is such a stupid fucking name

[pulsar path]

How

[muted hedge]

neither, it's rumble rumble

[barren token]

soundfs funny

[muted hedge]

ah yes since this manga is 100% serious

it's not like the main character is a fucking goofball on steroids

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/zaza-zaza-beaver-screaming-marmot-screaming-beaver-gif-7245830394095884625

[barren token]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the oda dickriders have logged on 🙄

[pulsar path]

It's an onomatopoeia for heavy rain in Japanese, it's actually sued when dragon shows up

[somber flare]

Enel is getting out-lightninged twice damn

[ornate tartan]

btw gunko is most likely not dead and can be a secret trump card

[somber flare]

Dragon is next

[muted hedge]

i'm just saying it's strange to remark something like that when the manga is how it is

[ornate tartan]

she has shown to resist imu control a little bit

[barren token]

No I know

it just sounds funny and kinda stupid is all

[muted hedge]

that's like complaining about a seinen because it's too edgy

[barren token]

Some are some are

makes you think

[pulsar path]

Goro goro no mi.....it's another onomatopoeia ....

How may devil fruits are they that mimic sound effects

Many

[muted hedge]

a lot of them

[pulsar path]

Zaza is also fire weed

[stone terrace]

Rain doesnt sound like zaza smh its more like shhhhhhhhh

[pulsar path]

Zaza genetics is a cannabis breeder

[unreal tinsel]

zaza is also two times slang for pizza

[somber flare]

Zaza looks like that dude from Overwatch

[muted hedge]

zaaaaaaaaaaaa zaaaaaaaaa

is rain i think

[pulsar path]

Japan has thee version to describe rain drops lmao

[pulsar path]

Zazazenyatta m

[cursive onyx]

Rararara

[pulsar path]

?

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/kalxozniki-zaza-gif-8689515308839918302

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/Ysnfjkw_game/status/2053790087247520090/photo/1

ふじかわ (@Ysnfjkw_game)

#今週のワンピ
雨

X · May 11, 2026, 10:51 AM

https://x.com/iamosix2/status/2053856388162396629/photo/1

OSIX /COOMS OPEN! (@iamosix2)

Zaza , thumbnail commission
#ONEPIECE

X · May 11, 2026, 3:14 PM

[stone terrace]

I like that it has 4 arms

[pulsar path]

Yup upscale for gil bastar the raingoda people

Only other four arm character we met

[muted hedge]

upscale my ass

[pulsar path]

And it was not a devil fruit he has perona fruit

[barren token]

is zaza > yonko level?

[hot cairn]

damn, op artists are QUICK

[pulsar path]

Zaza is god level

[muted hedge]

i'm happy that they are, they make such heat

[barren token]

so under yonko?

[unreal tinsel]

this is still a nightmare version by killingham, not the real deal

[pulsar path]

I mean idk how the rain effects devil fruits

But other thanks shanks none of em can touch em

[stone terrace]

Zaza is zoro level

[pulsar path]

For what ever reason we gotta see Imu reaction because of he feets zaza

[muted hedge]

this doesn't look like a nightmare version though

[pulsar path]

Feers

[muted hedge]

this looks so accurate to what it could be

compared to say Nika

[unreal tinsel]

would the water be real? its a killingham creation?

[muted hedge]

which was completely different

[celest socket]

that's probably because this is an adult's imagination rather than a child

[stone terrace]

This is only what killingham would know zaza as

[pulsar path]

The eyes are not ringed enough

[celest socket]

killingham probably has a much more defined idea of his worst fear than a bunch of schoolkids

[somber flare]

Zaza will think she’s all that until she meets the worlds strongest firefighter

[celest socket]

I think there's probably a zaza/poseidon link

[somber flare]

I’m not scared of this thing at all

[pulsar path]

We ant the CD

They terrified

I need the moment where dragon walks up on holy land bringing the rain

[muted hedge]

Zaza sounds like a made up story to make the Celestial Dragons even more afraid to go down to the lower world

[celest socket]

if zaza was responsible for raising the sea level then I can see why they'd be scared

[cursive onyx]

THIS IS PEAK.

[pulsar path]

So not exactly

It's the deer of something being above you

Clouds and rain can not be above the CD

Tho

They have no issue with the sub

Sun

[muted hedge]

what are you argumenting against

[pulsar path]

Meaning Imu was the first Nika

[muted hedge]

rain clouds are in the lower world

[ornate tartan]

The fear of rain makes sense

[cursive onyx]

.

[pulsar path]

Also seems like there whole get up is based on the fear of zaza

[unreal tinsel]

is it known if the people in the holy land can manipulate the weather like in weatheria?

[muted hedge]

no

[unreal tinsel]

if not, than the rain is one thing they cant control

[pulsar path]

Maybe that's why Imu can't leave

Rain will fall

[muted hedge]

though interestingly enough when Imu left Marijoa and departed to Elbaph, we saw clouds moving in

[pulsar path]

Mhm

[muted hedge]

so maybe Imu holds it in check

[pulsar path]

The sun god form the first world prevents the rain

[somber flare]

This is why Imu needs Crocodile to be his soldier

[celest socket]

I am curious how the rain god factors in since they seem very important to the lore

[pulsar path]

Also dance powder is like the ultimate weapon against holy land

[celest socket]

but aren't as obviously there in the present day

[pulsar path]

Aab wethiria is basically a nuke

[unreal tinsel]

if imu could hold it in check why would he need someone else who can do the same?

[muted hedge]

sounds like another erased historical fragment

[ornate tartan]

I think the other gods will also be introduced this arc

[unreal tinsel]

or at least killinghams images of them

[muted hedge]

god of war, god of sun and god of rain so far

[unreal tinsel]

is imu confirmed god of war?

[celest socket]

imu is the earth isnt he

[muted hedge]

no, the one who was Nidhoggr before Loki was

[ornate tartan]

by the end of elbaph we should have a little better understanding of some of the major contributors in the void century

[dark nymph]

wow

[ornate tartan]

makes sense at this point of the story

[muted hedge]

either that or an outlier, like the devil

[celest socket]

I thought that would make sense given the 5 elder planets

[ornate tartan]

also since Imu himself is here there’s no limit to the potential of new resetting information we can receive

[celest socket]

and people sometimes talk about him like he is the world

[ornate tartan]

and my last bet is we get a full joyboy reveal (non silhouette)

[celest socket]

I guess vivi coooould line up with the rain god but the issue is we kindof already know her counterpart from the void century

[unreal tinsel]

imu and joyboy have a (friendly) history dont they?

[celest socket]

and the link to rain is relatively weak

[muted hedge]

what says that Lily wasn't the rain god too?

Lily transporting the poneglyphs that way would make a lot of sense

scattered by waves

[celest socket]

I strongly suspect the poneglyphs were scattered with the paw fruit

[muted hedge]

i don't, at least not anymore

i think that it was Zaza's doing

[celest socket]

that lines up a lot more with how we've seen it used

[unreal tinsel]

the poneglyphs would be too heavy to be carried by the waves no?

[celest socket]

although I'm not sure if fruits actually existed in the void century at all

[muted hedge]

i think you underestimate the power of waves

[celest socket]

I'd assume the fruits are all manifestations of someone from the void century era

[final trench]

Nah fruits existed in the VC

Thats how joyboy ate the nika fruit

[unreal tinsel]

they are litteral rocks, they would erode before being moved all over the world

[somber flare]

Well didn’t the concept of Nika come before the VC or is that wrong

[muted hedge]

from what we know the god of war who was able to transform into Nidhoggr, seems like it could be more than just a fruit at that time

[muted hedge]

Nika is widely accepted to be from the first world, yes

Nika - first
Joyboy - second
Luffy - third

and this latest chapter given Imu's nostalgia for Ragnir as well as Nidhoggr, i am leaning towards the path that Imu has been alive across all of these eras

the devil playing mortal so to say

[final trench]

If not imu then “mu”

[somber flare]

I would still rather have the “gods” never actually exist in reality

[muted hedge]

i think we'll see a lot of this when we get the explanation for Imu's rise to power

[somber flare]

I feel like if Imu was around that long he’d be more likely to be scared of Nika himself rather than Joyboy

[muted hedge]

i think it goes hand in hand

he refered to Luffy as Nika for example

[trim lily]

i’d love for them and the harley to be metaphorical or symbolic

but unfortunately it feels like we’re going in the direction of it all being literal

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/gear-5-gear-5-luffy-joyboy-luffy-gear-5-luffy-gear-5-white-gif-13949304958127977410

Nika is real

[muted hedge]

here they refered to Luffy as Nika instead of Joyboy

[final trench]

Nika and nidhoggr were rivals

[somber flare]

Gods’ powers being manifested into reality by willpower is so much cooler than them actually existing

[trim lily]

myths made real by people’s beliefs

[muted hedge]

i love god piece

[final trench]

I mean thats still real in nikas case

They manifested him alive

[muted hedge]

literal gods being present, give so much lore

[somber flare]

I swear to god I had some headcanon in my mind about Nika having like an arch nemesis for a long time and it actually became a reality

Or rather rival that’s not the same thing

[golden valley]

Ragnir is what tells me the gods are real

[cold steppe]

Tbh the mural kinda confirms they exist or existed. But I don't think the DF users are gods

[somber flare]

Like a Roger Whitebeard type relationship

[golden valley]

Since he wasn’t always a fruiit

[trim lily]

well ragnir might’ve still started off as just a squirrel

[final trench]

Unless we wanna say nika ate a DF

[hasty sable]

Luffy’s Whitebeard revealed at last

[trim lily]

that then got mythologized

[prisma yacht]

What

[cold steppe]

My guess is that DFs weren't a thing until a certain point of time

[muted hedge]

for real though, what would you all say is the difference between a god and a devil

[cold steppe]

Possibly when gods didn't exist anymore

[muted hedge]

other than the moral standing

[trim lily]

i feel like that’s a big part of it

[muted hedge]

so, there's no other defining difference?

[prisma yacht]

Oh god I can't collect my thoughts

I'm going insane

[cold steppe]

Well that's a pretty big difference

That can define everything you do

[trim lily]

depends on if you want to try and generalize it or go by mythology

[muted hedge]

so, if a god is evil they're the devil?

if the devil is good they're god?

[trim lily]

generally devils don’t have much control over the world other than personal intervention, they’re punished or generally malicious, they tempt people with sin, reside in a sort of dark or underworld

[muted hedge]

if we're talking about the devil though

[trim lily]

if you go by the christian devil then it all still applies but they’re in hell

[latent hamlet]

If anything
If the devil controls the world it is by them influencing people to make it so

[trim lily]

gods typically have control or were responsible for an aspect of the world, and demand a certain level of respect or worship

[muted hedge]

doesn't the devil do the same, at least in some cultures

[trim lily]

yeah it all varies from religion to religion

though typically people won’t worship a devil like figure, especially if their role is actively malicious

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/satan-pooh-1--k01KRBXKQKDC2R9Z20FCDF4HVB3

[somber flare]

They’re really just contrarians

[muted hedge]

it's based in people rejecting the idea of god yeah

[somber flare]

Attention seeking is the worst type of evil smh

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/enojado-gif-6930705070173779193

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[prisma yacht]

I'll crush you in a grinder spice

[blazing depot]

I think I’m in love with Zaza

I’d worship the shit outta her

[prisma yacht]

Unreal

[muted hedge]

kiss the ocean

[dense haven]

least degenerate op fan

[blazing depot]

But am I wrong?

They will call you degenerate but never wrong…

[somber flare]

Water is so boring bro. Imagine being the god of that shit outta everything.

[latent hamlet]

Tbf water is like a huge majority of the world

[dense haven]

water is literally the best drink of all time

[blazing depot]

Yeah you kinda need water to survive

[muted hedge]

water is fucking op

don't underestimate water

[somber flare]

Well yeah it is but I don’t want to be the god of it

[muted hedge]

i'd be the god of it with open arms

[somber flare]

I didn’t say it sucked just that it’s boring

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/waterer-cat--k01KRBY29HRTG5Q9YM878FV2M46

stay hydrated

always remember

[knotty root]

[dense haven]

if your piss aint clear your death is near

[somber flare]

I almost exclusively drink water

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/thirsty-drinking-3--k01KRBY4M56DHZ3J7V3R8S1HVTH

[prisma yacht]

Stop being so cunty

[muted hedge]

give us Imu's colors yasterday

come on Oda

[final trench]

True

[unreal tinsel]

i think he might have a color pallette similar to the color of the supreme king

[muted hedge]

so, black and red?

[unreal tinsel]

jup

i only read the manga, all color is a mystery

every once in a while i am reminded dat zolo's hair is green

[gleaming notch]

im always disappointed when color reveals come out

[distant vine]

When you say bully do you mean deal a lot of damage and then get one shot

[near scroll]

lokis hair looks kinda lit tho i tthought it was gonna be buns

[muted hedge]

people always complain like babies and then when the colors have been a thing for a while they come around to it

happened with the gorosei, Loki and the holy knights

[gleaming notch]

i thought super sommers had blond hair but apparently it's orange

[muted hedge]

i'm just so glad that Loki didn't get a basic ass bitch color scheme

[prisma yacht]

That's bcs he is namis dad

[gleaming notch]

no one came around to the hk colors

[ashen perch]

he's not getting oneshot

[iron oriole]

tbf with the Gorosei, they were very jarring... idt anybody expected them to be tasting the rainbow but they grew on people after a while

[sturdy steeple]

If I was Oda I'd finally make the fight with Zoro as gory as it can be

Because these guys can just safely regenerate

[unreal tinsel]

tbh are there any zoro fights that dont end up with him head to toe in blood?

[ornate tartan]

just want something to complain about

[gleaming notch]

damn

[ornate tartan]

ppl create their own “speculation” on what a color scheme will end up being and put 6 diff colors on purpose then call oda washed

[iron oriole]

its the same with DF reveals & shit, people have their expectations & then when its the complete opposite of what they expect/want, its bad & "insert insult to Oda"

[somber flare]

Purple is just the coolest color icl

[gloomy tree]

They call him washed every 10 minutes

[muted hedge]

"loki will have the real rubber fruit"

[iron oriole]

wasn't Spice saying that shit

[muted hedge]

wouldn't surprise me

[golden valley]

I will always stand by that being way way way way way WAAAAAAAY lamer than the Nidhogg

Nidhogg clears by leaps and bounds than real rubber fruit loki

[dapper tree]

Rubber fruit theory was worse than resin theory

[sturdy steeple]

Monet, Pica I guess

Ryuma too

[dapper tree]

The Fishman

Guy

Uhhhh

[iron oriole]

Nidhoggr was probably my like 4th or 5th wanted DF for him, but i expected it to be Norse of some sorts

i really really wanted it to be Skoll

[muted hedge]

the most interesting part about Loki is still his eyes to me

[dapper tree]

Eye piece is back

[distant vine]

But its a Zoro fight

[rich hornet]

I thought based off the hybrid silhouette that he’d have something like a chimera fruit. Where he could alter parts of his body at will into different appendages or grow wings etc. like Bonney but less restricted.

Nidhoggr is fine

[somber flare]

Loki gives one of his eyes to Zoro by the end of the arc

Adding that to my bingo card

[muted hedge]

i want Imu to talk about them

[distant vine]

Ok not one shot literally but receive a blow that takes 90% of his HP

[muted hedge]

since if anyone would know what they mean, it's Imu

[dapper tree]

Zoro is gonna one shot sommers when it comes down to it

[iron oriole]

idt his eyes are going to be special tbh, i think its just a Sigurd snake in the eye reference & just like showing he's always destined to be the Dragon, Nidhoggr

[rich hornet]

Is it going to shrink to fit him like Enma did

[muted hedge]

i think it's something special given Harald never got to see them

[somber flare]

Of course

[muted hedge]

if it wasn't special there would be no reason for Harald to never see them

[somber flare]

That’s just general one piece physics

[iron oriole]

Harald just neglected tf out of him & listened blindly

type of dad to see his baby son covered in bruises & be like "oh boys will be boys"

[hasty sable]

Harald sucks at everything

[muted hedge]

no

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-one-piece-imu-one-piece-harald-harald-one-piece-gif-13802888298837913669

[sturdy steeple]

He doesn't suck at living rent free in your head though 🏃‍➡️

[hasty sable]

True

[muted hedge]

Harald asked about his eyes and the medics told him that it was an eye disease

Harald is a genuinely amazing character

people just have a hate boner for him because of Xebec

[iron oriole]

and then he was just like "okay" & never questioned it

[hasty sable]

Harald is a great character. Still sucks though.

[faint cedar]

Harald was too naive but still had a good heart

[hasty sable]

He makes Oden look like a genius

[muted hedge]

oh great you hate on Oden too

[hasty sable]

Only the healthy amount

[muted hedge]

let me guess you hate on Garp as well

[hasty sable]

Big time

[wraith mantle]

how about rocks

[hasty sable]

Goat

[spice cairn]

I hate Rocks

Imagine naming your son after useless pebbles you find on the ground

[ornate tartan]

my favorite backstory in One Piece was Kozuki Oden

[past flax]

archer give me a list of every one piece character you hate

[spice cairn]

Zaza dethroned Rocks for most batshit name award

[past flax]

or does this shit change daily

[muted hedge]

i don't hate Xebec at all, but his fanbase is another case

[ornate tartan]

the flashback was fun in Wano

[past flax]

ngl i didnt know how to feel about rocks cause of the fanbase

[spice cairn]

They're mostly Teech fans who got bored due to their ADHD kicking him, due to the lack of action this arc thus far on panel

[past flax]

but after his story finally came out i got a lot of respect for him

[wraith mantle]

rocks fanbase are not even top 4 worst

[hasty sable]

Damn, clocked

[spice cairn]

So that tremendous glaze transfered to his father.

[past flax]

whose top 4

[wraith mantle]

idk

[spice cairn]

Like father, like son

[muted hedge]

that's probably the biggest part to why i have a hard time with them

Blackbeards fanbase is probably my most disliked

[past flax]

shanks fans up there somewhere

[golden valley]

I dont say Rocks fans were teach fans because many hated teach

[hasty sable]

I love them all

[golden valley]

They were like two different fandoms

[urban lodge]

They're worse than Zoro and Sanji and Shanks fans combined

[spice cairn]

Rocks is the epitome of what many want Teech to be, despite the fact Teech is by far a lot more interesting in a vaccum.

[ornate tartan]

unfortunately as a shanks fan I cannot disagree with you

Mihawk Zoro Shanks Sanji fans will never be topped

[past flax]

do you love moria

[wraith mantle]

rocks fans are top 3 fans

[hasty sable]

Xebec was just so cool he produced the most annoying fanbase

[hasty sable]

Yes

[spice cairn]

Including people who liked Teech but also couldn't stand him not being the center of attention every 5 panels

[wraith mantle]

what did his fans even do that was outrageous

[past flax]

ok you pass

[ornate tartan]

khalid every fanbase is crazy

it’s the internet tbh😂

[blazing depot]

I dunno I found the constant meat riding annoying during the whole flashback

[distant vine]

Shanks fans dont do anything wrong lmao

[wraith mantle]

true, except sanji and rocks

[past flax]

im sorry shanks is a great character i just hate the powerscaling mfers who need to drag him in every damn convo for power

[ornate tartan]

bro sanji deadass got the worst😭😭

[distant vine]

Like if you wanna call Zoro fans annoying fine but Shanks fans are just innocent people

[blazing depot]

Mihawk fan brags about Imu having a sword as if they haven’t had an actual feat in 16 years

[ornate tartan]

yeah it’s unfortunate, he’s one of the greatest characters oda has ever made and that’s all people ever wanna talk about

[past flax]

yall werent here in wano for zoro vs sanji fans every chapter during act 3

[wraith mantle]

he only showed up for like 5 chapters wdym constant

[distant vine]

Bragging about another character cause your fav isnt getting the feats instead is funny ngl

[golden valley]

Aint gon lie

[wraith mantle]

akainu fans and mihawk fans are the worst for sure

[golden valley]

That’s kinda oda’s fault

[dapper tree]

And dragon fans

[past flax]

tf are akainu fans doing when the man hasnt left his desk in god knows when

[golden valley]

Because Shanks is heavily heavily centered around demonstrating his power

[blazing depot]

Akainu fans are funny sometimes. But unironic ones are annoying

[hasty sable]

I’ve never been more understood

[wraith mantle]

dragon fans are just the comic relief of the community its ok

[golden valley]

And oda makes him too cool while doing it

[dapper tree]

That's one way to view them

[golden valley]

Shanks best moments are his demonstration of power to many

[somber flare]

People being fans of characters for things that they’ll do later is hilarious

[hasty sable]

I think every character has annoying fans except Gonbe fans

[muted hedge]

whenever someone says they hate Shanks it's always because he is too perfect, which is hilarious given he wears three iconic scars plastered on his face as well as missing an limb

[wraith mantle]

rocks fans are likely more than just teech fans considering he almost placed top 10 in the poll

[past flax]

shanks can cough in one panel and those fans will use that in a 8 paragraph essay on how he outclasses everyone

[wraith mantle]

Teech was never anywhere near that spot before

[blazing depot]

Recency bias

[ornate tartan]

you know one of the first things shanks taught us is needless killing doesn’t make u a man

so idk where people got this fan fiction character in their head that he’s all about just power

[muted hedge]

that's because Xebec is considered a lot cooler than Teach

[urban lodge]

Rocks fans are JJK fans

[blazing depot]

Same with Uta

[muted hedge]

Xebec is Teach if Teach wasn't pathetic

[distant vine]

Well yeah

[blazing depot]

Also Uta has the benefit of Ado fans

[wraith mantle]

eh

[past flax]

the thing wth uta i think those are just ado fans in disguise

[blazing depot]

Just like Carrot got a furry boost

[hasty sable]

Uta isn’t real

[distant vine]

As an intellectual exercise in how far can you aura farm a character Im glad Oda went that route with Rocks

[blazing depot]

Rocks has a JJK fan boost

[somber flare]

Being a Rocks fan is like starting to watch a sport and liking the team that’s won 50 championships

[spice cairn]

Rocks would fit right in with Solo Leveling

[distant vine]

Genuinely idk how much more you could do without it coming across as comical

[past flax]

tell that to the polls

[spice cairn]

[blazing depot]

Usopp fan is like being a Red Sox fan before 2004

The curse of the next arc

[hasty sable]

Nah Uta appears in one panel so she’s real

[spice cairn]

Dread from it

Run from it

Uta is arriving

[blazing depot]

I love Film Red imma keep it a buck fifty

[somber flare]

Ado tax

[wraith mantle]

funny because rocks is the one who lost in the end lol

[clever idol]

The fans being oda

[hasty sable]

I haven’t watched Red yet

[rich hornet]

Carrot was top 20 last time we did this. Polls are garbage

[ornate tartan]

i might be wrong but i think more then half of the fanbase has to realize that Luffy is the main character

[past flax]

uta is showing up in the final war with moria archer peak is happening

[ornate tartan]

no one is coming to save him here

[hasty sable]

It’s not Shanks?

[distant vine]

Its a good movie

[wraith mantle]

these kinda fans always support dragon or shanks

[somber flare]

I didn’t realize how big Ado was or how rabid her fanbase was until recently

[iron oriole]

the fuck you saying about Ado

[blazing depot]

Hey she makes good music

[distant vine]

https://tenor.com/view/ado-adodance-adoevernight-ado-cute-ado-dance-gif-975577285007088423

[past flax]

nah hes over there on that nami pack all day

[distant vine]

She is pretty goated

[hasty sable]

I feel like I have to like Kid because of how he’s being treated

[distant vine]

Nobody gets pity love from me

Too many goated characters to waste time like that

At a certain point you just fail and we have to move on

[wraith mantle]

and yet you have a chopper pfp

[iron oriole]

yeah like Tama

THE GOAT

[somber flare]

Kid hate is honestly manufactured in a lab and the result of a online hive mind mentality

[past flax]

ado was a surprise but hearing avril lavigne in the credits for red was the bigger shocker for me

[wraith mantle]

Kidd is a pretty meh character

[hasty sable]

Kid hate is kind of funny because it all comes down to presentation not anything else

[muted hedge]

the biggest reason why i end up disliking a character often boils down to what the fanbase is

[wraith mantle]

bro is the epitome of a one note character, with no interesting motivations

[hasty sable]

He’s just terribly uncharismatic lol

[somber flare]

Like his biggest offense is not being THAT important

[past flax]

youre gonna summon rokaya talking about him

[hasty sable]

I still kind of like him

[distant vine]

I dont actually hate him but when he, Luffy and Law stand together Im not afraid to point out one of them aint like the rest imo 😂

[hasty sable]

Want him to get some wins and good development

[past flax]

he needs to come back in the story first

[ornate tartan]

I think that’s fair but at the same time i just ignore them, i barely use twitter anymore

[hasty sable]

I feel like he shouldn’t be written off for being embarrassed by Shanks

[somber flare]

Oda doesn’t do him any favors

[spice cairn]

Im the only person in the Burgress fandom that speaks english. So I am the walking Limitus Test.

[iron oriole]

he's written off because he has nothing left

no ship, no poneglyphs

[past flax]

guys how do we feel about jinbei

[golden valley]

Mihawk is unfortunately the true powerscaler character in the series

[somber flare]

Truth

[formal wagon]

NEW THEORY

[hasty sable]

Winbei, but I feel like he doesn’t have a lot to do now

[golden valley]

Because he is relevant only for power, but thats gotta change when we get more lore

[somber flare]

Literally his whole purpose is to eventually lose to Zoro

[formal wagon]

has anyone noticed luffy is much shorter than both his father and grandfather?

i have...

and i have a theory explaining why...

[distant vine]

He's my least favorite SH, but still a good character. I dont really have complaints about him but I understand the memes where people are like "When the NPC becomes playable"

[formal wagon]

luffy is short becauses he's a bad person.

[ornate tartan]

I mean Mihawk is just underdeveloped but he’s not a dislikeable character by any means

[spice cairn]

Time in Vira lowers your height every hour

[somber flare]

That’s why I always say Mihawk fans are just Zoro fans investing for future hype

[ornate tartan]

what did mihawk do to get hate?😂

[past flax]

i need oda to lock in for him big time and stop using him as a firefighter

[formal wagon]

[golden valley]

Op fans dont hve patience

So not doing anything

= ass

[distant vine]

Zoro really is the only reason I entertain Mihawk > Shanks

[past flax]

truth cause jinbei is just there now

[distant vine]

Otherwise Id be partisan

[formal wagon]

its what he didnt do

[hasty sable]

It has been almost thirty years

[ornate tartan]

dragon hasn’t done much either and he doesn’t have as much haters as mihawk

[iron oriole]

That only counts for Dragon

[ornate tartan]

do people hate zoro fans that much

[past flax]

the zoro fans ive met in here are something else

[distant vine]

Dragon doesnt get actively powerscaled as much

[latent hamlet]

They tend to yap the most

[iron oriole]

Mihawk haters come from 2 groups, its unfair on him

[golden valley]

Thats OP for ya

[hasty sable]

!zoro

[tropic nova]

"Don't speak ill of Zoro."　-Eiichiro Oda, Niconico Live Broadcast (28 December 2011)

[ornate tartan]

Zoro is one of the most likable characters in one piece

[iron oriole]

Shanks fans & Zoro fans both attacking him

[distant vine]

Like every sword character incites a Mihawk power conversation

[latent hamlet]

Dragon is basically "worst criminal so strong probably?"

[distant vine]

Thats not the case with Dragon

[ornate tartan]

idk man i feel like what his fans say won’t make me dislike him

[somber flare]

The zoro extremist fans don’t really exist here because everyone else keeps them in check

[distant vine]

True fans can never make me dislike a character

[somber flare]

They run wild on twitter though

[golden valley]

No fan can ever truly effect how i feel about a character

[past flax]

anytime a person with a sword exists immediately mihawk and zoro is brought up

[golden valley]

I HATE the zoro fandom but zoro is still in my top 3 goated/fav character

[ornate tartan]

I think people started hating him because every single time shanks is mentioned even if it has nothing to do with fighting they start bringing up mihawk and swords

[somber flare]

I consider myself a “zoro fan” kind of

He’s my 3rd favorite SH

[distant vine]

I moderate my opinions so I can be taken seriously

[past flax]

have there been any talks though of brook being in there

[ornate tartan]

i’m a fan too i got him 3rd after luffy and nami

[distant vine]

Yup

[ornate tartan]

in the crew

[distant vine]

Also he's easy pickings

[golden valley]

Luffy
Bb
Zoro

My 3 OP goats but i usually don’t consider Luffy bc Im not sure how one doesn’t have Luffy as one of their goated characters???

[distant vine]

You can shout black paint memes all day and what can Mihawk fans respond with?

He only has 3 short fights

[ornate tartan]

black paint jokes are so corny now

[past flax]

Luffy
Moria
Doflamingo but Loki is moving up fast

[distant vine]

Im a free thinker thats why

[iron oriole]

He's probably top 5 for me if i really had to think about it

[distant vine]

Dude I wish DB fans had the blind obedience to the MC that this fanbase has omg

😭

[past flax]

LOL

[somber flare]

He’s probably in my top 10 characters

[icy wolf]

the man marked by flames is probably the guy with sea god fruit if it exists

[past flax]

its rare for the mc to not be slandered constantly like luffy now and days huh

i rarely see luffy hate

[distant vine]

Luffy slander is on the uptick but most fans are intensly loyal

Its not every fandom people go "Well of course (MC here) has to be at the top"

[somber flare]

Greatest character of all time

[iron oriole]

Robin
Brook
Tama
Luffy
Loki/BB probably tied 5th rn

[sturdy steeple]

I really remember only 4 gods being mentioned in Skypiea

[somber flare]

I feel like most manga don’t have the MC as the definitive fan favorite. Like Luffy literally dominates fan polls every single time without fail.

[sturdy steeple]

Don't think they had a Sea God

If anything we already have a Poseidon, no?

[iron oriole]

Poseidon is probably the Sea God yeah

[distant vine]

He's a menace, I want him stopped!

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-jj-jameson-menace-i-want-that-city-gif-23305454

[sturdy steeple]

I feel like the modern "Gods" are going to be folks with the respective Devil Fruit powers like Luffy.

[somber flare]

I think there was only one where he didn’t win?

It was like one of the first ones where Zoro won

[distant vine]

No he's won every single one

Zoro's always been 2 or 3 under Law

[ornate tartan]

1. Shanks
2. Whitebeard
3. Katakuri
4. Luffy
5. Nami
6. Zoro
7. Enel
8. Loki
9. Dragon
10. Robin

my current top 10

[distant vine]

I can feel it though, the Zoro fanbase has the power to beat him

[somber flare]

I’d have to think about a top 10

[sturdy steeple]

It's possible that Chopper is a Forest God

[distant vine]

We just need one massive push

[iron oriole]

6 - 10 probably gets hard for me to pick

I have so many characters i like that fall around that mark

[ornate tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/charlotte-katakuri-katakuri-one-piece-gif-11987275

[ashen perch]

Mr.1 is kinda the only fight like that tbh

[sturdy steeple]

I mean

[somber flare]

I think it’d be something like:

1. Luffy
2. Whitebeard
3. Nami
4. Doflamingo
5. Marco

Marco is a bit of a irrational one, I just like him lol

[sturdy steeple]

There a few fights where Zoro landing a hit was the end for his opponent

But I dislike saying one-shot most of the time

Like Lucci fought Zoro for god knows how much, blocked most of his slashes and yet some are calling that one-shot.

[icy wolf]

yea but sea god is in the mural

[ashen perch]

That's just called a finisher, if they block his attacks then it's not oneshot

[iron oriole]

One shots should only ever be counted if its literally 1 attack & done, Zoro vs Lucci not a oneshot... Shanks vs Kid was a oneshot

[sturdy steeple]

Oh right

Yeah I remember now

[distant vine]

This fight just gives you chills 😭 I hope TOP does it justice

[somber flare]

We’ll see in 2034

[sturdy steeple]

Mr1, Pica and Monet fit then

[icy wolf]

1. luffy
2. whitebeard
3. shanks
4. ace
5. blackbeard
6. law
7. sanji
8. zoro
9. rocks
10. katakuri

[ashen perch]

I'd only give it to Mr.1 because Zoro really does finish him in the one hit that comes after he figured out how to cut Steel, and everything before it is a torture ritual

[sturdy steeple]

Although no, Pica did block him lol

[ashen perch]

Pica does take multiple hits from Zoro and blocks a few too

Monet... Eh true

[sturdy steeple]

tbh Monet is barely a fight so yeah

[wraith mantle]

i wonder if zoro will get character development

[icy wolf]

impossible

[ashen perch]

Apoo also blocked him multiple times

[ornate tartan]

everyone loves goatbeard

[icy wolf]

zoro is just cool he doesnt get development

[iron oriole]

Monet you can count as a Zoro oneshot, he broke her mental with 1 slice

[hasty sable]

Pica was two cuts at least that I remember

[icy wolf]

even sanji doesnt get much development

[wraith mantle]

would you call his nothing happened a character development moment?

[icy wolf]

yea

[sturdy steeple]

Character development? How about cirrhosis development

[ashen perch]

I think Monet does block some attacks with her snow but I can't recall now

[icy wolf]

for both zoro and sanji

[sturdy steeple]

Apoo blocked both him and Drake at the same time lol

[ornate tartan]

even sommers might get some development

which is funny for a side villian

[sturdy steeple]

She blocked Tashigi's attacks

[ornate tartan]

he already has imo

[knotty root]

The one and only kidd edit that'll appear on my feed

[icy wolf]

shanks has the best and most interesting development

[sturdy steeple]

Then Zoro slashes once, leaves a scar on her face and then just goes right into her and one shots.

[ashen perch]

Oh maybe yeah

[hasty sable]

Zoro blocking a double Hakai for a second is a really good defense feat btw

[icy wolf]

i saw an edit of dive today

[ashen perch]

Well he survived it really

[icy wolf]

some random on kidd’s crew

[knotty root]

What the damn

[sturdy steeple]

I think the feat itself is more the fact that he managed to go fight afterwards after delaying it lol

[ashen perch]

Don't day that, Rokaya would be mad

[sturdy steeple]

He had 30 broken bones and still went Ashura

[grand flower]

Zoro got character development when we learned he’s a descendent of Wano

And being a descendent of Wano is directly what makes him able to beat King

[sturdy steeple]

Shuron do you think Zoro might develop cirrhosis

[ashen perch]

His dynamic with Sanji has progressed so much from the early days too

[grand flower]

Haki liver

He’ll be fine

[distant vine]

I can hear it...the breathing of his thorns...

[prisma yacht]

Holy shit

[sturdy steeple]

I'm scared Shuron

[wraith mantle]

wait how

[ashen perch]

That moment at the end of the chapter was another moment to reaffirm that progression

[sturdy steeple]

What if he dies

[iron oriole]

If Zoro can't cut Sommers' thorns then we're in trouble

[distant vine]

Wdym Shuron, how can you have character development without a 5+ chapter backstory

[ashen perch]

Gaban's ACoC hits were blocked by those thorns btw

[distant vine]

https://tenor.com/view/how-can-you-read-this-no-pictures-gif-15201067

[ashen perch]

Get ready

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah like

Sommers managed to block his attacks lol

[prisma yacht]

[near scroll]

ill have to step in 😔

[prisma yacht]

Lmfao

[distant vine]

No no, it wont just be cutting the thorns.

[grand flower]

He focuses on the lesson he learned from the old Shimotsuki guy about how cursed swords arent real, and it’s just people being too weak to use the swords properly

That’s what makes Zoro stop trying to hold Enma back, which is what was causing his spasms where he’d lose control

[distant vine]

The thorns are gonna capture someone again, and he'll cut the thorns without cutting the kids

[sturdy steeple]

That being said

[distant vine]

As in, cutting what he wants and not cutting what he wants

[grand flower]

That’s a good idea

[ashen perch]

Oh, that'd be sick

[sturdy steeple]

Anyone who made fun of Sommers and said he's the weakest HK shouldn't switch just because he's fighting Zoro

Live with that

[iron oriole]

Oh sure thats a typical swordsman anime technique, i can see that

[grand flower]

Theyre on PEDs anyway

[golden valley]

I mean, Zoro’s mastery of swordsmanship HAS to be that

[grand flower]

It doesn’t matter now

[ashen perch]

Goldberg might be cooked, I thought about that while reading the chapter

[sturdy steeple]

lol

[ashen perch]

He's going with Zoro to basically get oneshotted

[spice cairn]

Sommers is a lot stronger than what he seems and its simply Oda giving him flavour of character without compromising his strength

[somber flare]

Zoro is better at cutting than Gaban

[ashen perch]

Maybe he gets trapped in Sommers' thorns, good idea there

[spice cairn]

People who think being a good character personality as a sign of weakness has noone but themselves to blame

[sturdy steeple]

Goldberg really told Zoro that he's the only who is left stable

[dapper tree]

Not for long

[spice cairn]

Its clear he's no joke even given the quacky nature

[formal wagon]

goldberg has the shield

[ornate tartan]

even im not as high on sommers as arsal is gah damn😂

[spice cairn]

I stand with Sommers

[ornate tartan]

u think he’s gonna one shot goldberg and still toy with zoro

[sturdy steeple]

I support Sommers

[ashen perch]

Yeah he is gonna do that

[iron oriole]

Zoro can just use foxfire style to burn Sommers' thorns btw

[dapper tree]

Someone needed to make sure Zoro got to his next fight. He can't do it himself

[ashen perch]

Zoro's gonna be a mess by the time Sommers is done with him

[sturdy steeple]

Can Zoro even cause fire lol
I know he can cut it but causing it is uhhhh

[dapper tree]

Zoro can

[ashen perch]

He hasn't shown the ability to do that

[hasty sable]

Sommers is a fun character but he is actually not up there with the current cast

[dapper tree]

He has the stolen fire fox style

[spice cairn]

Zoro can't make fire but he can definitely cut it

[dapper tree]

Plus what ever he did in thriller bark

[sturdy steeple]

He stole one move

[hasty sable]

Before Omen anyway

[sturdy steeple]

lol

[iron oriole]

Literally stole Kinemons style

[dapper tree]

So he can

[spice cairn]

But idt he can produce unless Sanji lights it up.

[knotty root]

zoro Just gonna use some logic like slashing the air so fast that he creates fire or some shit

[sturdy steeple]

I mean sure

He can probably spark it up

[atomic tangle]

Guys where can i watch one piece for free?

[dapper tree]

Zoro's probably just gonna set himself on fire at some point

[spice cairn]

Discord exposing people with the newbie icon

[ashen perch]

Sommers was Zoro level before Omen, and he's above him after Omen. The people aren't ready to hear that unfortunately

[spice cairn]

Its over

[dapper tree]

Insane

[golden valley]

Listen…Sommers is about to lose

[dapper tree]

Sommers wishes he was that strong

[ashen perch]

No he isn't lol

[sturdy steeple]

Arsal really wants SHs to lose

[golden valley]

He is lol

[hasty sable]

Arsal never quits gotta respect it tbh

[sturdy steeple]

I think he was decently strong but it's like

[ashen perch]

If Sommers is losing to anyone, its Karasu

[spice cairn]

Something something SHs losing creates tension and good for the story, themes and such

[dapper tree]

A buffed sommers and buffed killingham are losing to nerfed zoro and nerfed sanji

[sturdy steeple]

Marco going toe to toe with Kizaru in MF doesn't make him as strong as an admiral

[ashen perch]

Wait, SABO

Why did I say Karasu

[sturdy steeple]

Same situation

[dapper tree]

[barren token]

Where are we getting this idea from

[golden valley]

[hasty sable]

It’s Wano again

[ashen perch]

Karasu is dealing with Qilingham

[dapper tree]

The raid will fail, I mean, elbaf will fail

[hasty sable]

The Tobi Roppo are all getting up

[somber flare]

freudian slip

[ashen perch]

But they did get up?

[wraith mantle]

glad that sommers is no longer a clown

[spice cairn]

The rain will fall Pasta

Make it rain

[dapper tree]

He's a strong clown

[prisma yacht]

I have a gut feeling that he was

[ashen perch]

The Tobi Roppo of this arc did get up like I said they would

[wraith mantle]

super clown!

[sturdy steeple]

Sommers hasn't changed lol

[dapper tree]

Omen buffs

[hasty sable]

I think they’re probably Tobi Roppo level without Omen

[dapper tree]

[ashen perch]

He blocked multiple ACoC attacks from Gaban, even after he was caught offguard and only had one arm to fight with.

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah that's fair

[wraith mantle]

holy robbos

[dapper tree]

They ain't taht bad

[hasty sable]

And immortality

[pulsar path]

What's the thoughts on Mecha mu

[sturdy steeple]

But come on

[pulsar path]

Mecha Mu!

[dapper tree]

I put them in the low commander level

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji dealt with one of them pretty easily soooo...

[hasty sable]

TR isn’t that bad. Just means they could feasibly lose to someone like Franky, Robin, etc.

[ashen perch]

No he didn't....

[runic dock]

The raid will fail no egghead will fail no Elbaf will fail

[wraith mantle]

holy shit i think its drop worthy if mecha mu is true

[dapper tree]

Sanji did

[hasty sable]

I think that is reasonable

[runic dock]

They’ll fail going from one island to the next

[ashen perch]

But they didnt?

[somber flare]

Tobi roppo level sounds good

[runic dock]

Just in between

[sturdy steeple]

I will never win with you

sigh

[spice cairn]

Mecha Imu would be kino

[somber flare]

These are the guys the revos commanders are fighting

[spice cairn]

What do you mean satan is also a cyborg

[pulsar path]

.... You would rather magic piece than science piece na bro

[dapper tree]

Don't forget kata will win

[cedar wyvern]

Wano seems like simpler times now

[ashen perch]

Robin lost very easily to Sommers lol, even though she tried her best to outwit him

[wraith mantle]

is this a genuine take or half troll

[pulsar path]

Get that magic out of my onepeice

[runic dock]

Mecha imu could save the manga

[dapper tree]

She almost beat him

[wraith mantle]

i am a sucker for fantasy so yeah lol

[sturdy steeple]

Nah

[somber flare]

Matchup diff

[spice cairn]

Khalid, picture this

[runic dock]

Oh my god it started before wano

[pulsar path]

Ah I feel that than

[spice cairn]

Satan, the incarnation of evil, is also a mecha cyborg from hell

Is that not fucking cool buddy?

[somber flare]

That’s actually the only instance so far where I think haki would’ve actually helped Robin

[hasty sable]

Without immortality the current God Knights are mid-straw hat tier

[spice cairn]

You've clapped like a seal for less

[sturdy steeple]

Let's not go over the head. She wasn't even close to winning. She did try her best though.

[ashen perch]

She tried to outsmart him, it didn't work, and then he quickly captured her as soon as they faced again

[pulsar path]

Sounds like some smt shit

Smt is peak

[hasty sable]

Sanji embarrassed Killy

[spice cairn]

Like everyone laughs at the idea but we are way past any expectation of realism for a while now

How would that be even bad in a fantasty setting like this

[ashen perch]

Gunko beat a billion berry man Jinbe with ease though, Sommer beat a 900M Robin with the same ease too

[runic dock]

4 arcs in a row people think the SH will lose , are people who want that trying to be a broken clock that’s right twice a day?

[golden valley]

Almost

https://tenor.com/view/what-excuse-me-gif-6873075542516461764

[spice cairn]

Themes and such is the reason Earl

Egghead proved we are way past losing

[wraith mantle]

i dont even want realism, but i just hate the mecha/gundam genre

[sturdy steeple]

I feel like we reallyyyyy shouldn't overestimate them. These guys are F6 of the WG with some notable fighters. If we had immortal dudes that are all are strong as YC we'd be fucked.

[spice cairn]

If they didnt' completely fold to what happened there, what makes you think they're losing now?

[dapper tree]

My memory of dressrosa is hazy but did people want luffy to lose there too?

[wraith mantle]

oda should stick to gods and stuff

[grand flower]

Oh yeah I been saying imu is a cyborg from space

[sturdy steeple]

SHs weaker than monster trio need their opponents lol

[somber flare]

I really think this arc specifically is the one we are least likely to lose out of all of them lmao

[spice cairn]

We had a big ass viking ass robot last arc

[pulsar path]

That's so broad of hate !

[grand flower]

Apparently the Omen sound effects are mechanical

[somber flare]

Our side has never been stronger

[runic dock]

With immortality they can be pushed back well enough by the right combination of mid tier strawhats

[spice cairn]

Oops wrong reply

[ashen perch]

They ganged up on him

[wraith mantle]

it is lol

[spice cairn]

meant for Khalid

[pulsar path]

Mecha anime is so broad!

[spice cairn]

But yeah we had a big ass mecha viking from the Joyboy era last arc

[pulsar path]

I bet you would like guren lagen