also-manga

[spice cairn]

Sanji only smoked the cigs, bros lungs aren't ready for the zaza

[hazy turret]

Facebook is over there, sir

[grand flower]

I wonder if he he’ll be at a disadvantage because of hostages

[runic dock]

That did sound like a status from 2011

[grand flower]

This must mean I’m old

[ashen perch]

If Oda was cool, the knights would be too much for Zoro and Sanji 1v1

[runic dock]

That would be the only way a water expert gets nerfed

[runic dock]

I read one piece for UPLIFT

[ashen perch]

Team battles IS the move

[runic dock]

That will not uplift me

[ashen perch]

It'll uplift me sorry

[runic dock]

Smh

Some people just wanna see the world burn

[ashen perch]

I'm not saying that the knights gotta win per se

[runic dock]

That could happen , altho I’m surprised right now it’s zoro vs Sommers

[trim lily]

i don’t know if it’s a good or bad omen that we both want this

[runic dock]

I predict they flip opponents

[trim lily]

raid boss knights would be so good

[ashen perch]

Zaza opens the door for it especially

[runic dock]

It’s an imu omen

Jinbei should really make Zaza a non issue but Oda will probably have Jinbei busy

Smh

[trim lily]

he’s putting out the water

[runic dock]

Putting out the fire with water or putting out the water with water?

[trim lily]

latter

[runic dock]

Leakers said dragon was the rain god

And they wonder why I want them arrested

[grand flower]

Yeah I’d love to see the SHs jump them

Zaza can pose a unique threat tbh

Nami can’t rely on lightning as much and Jamesbei might not be able to attack it directly

Nami might have to freeze it

Jamesbei can swim inside it, blow up the head maybe

[runic dock]

If he can’t attack it directly it’s cause of the hostages yeah

Otherwise all he has to do is swipe left

[tough igloo]

Happy Mother’s Day to my 2nd fav One Piece mom (only behind the GOAT Dadan )

[runic dock]

Jinbe has only had a who’s who fight as a big strawhat show out , maybe it’s time for him to get more moments , a water opponent instead of just being a firefighter

[ashen perch]

I'm also curious to see what Sanjis nightmares will produce

[tough igloo]

sadly she probably dead 😪

[ashen perch]

They could be tough enemies on their own

[runic dock]

I don’t really care for that it sounds like filler

[ashen perch]

This could age really poorly

[runic dock]

Sanji has an opponent, unless the nightmare is part of the killingham fight as a whole piece

[tough igloo]

it very well could lol Oda could say she turned into a horrible mother after rocks death

but i have faith that oda will do what he always does and say she was a good mom that died brutally in front of her child and it changed him

[runic dock]

I still think she will lol

Totally opposite from the norm

The Bb way

[runic dock]

Maybe she was the person that put it into bb’s head to have this whole plan or idea

[ashen perch]

I dunno, that's part of the whole appeal of any Qilingham matchup to me. We have yet to really scratch the surface with his powers, he's actually the first major character to have their nightmare depicted here

[runic dock]

Is she still good then

Despite motivating him?

[tough igloo]

yeah I agree with that , i’m sure she had a role in that … but that don’t make her a bad mom cause she telling teach to avenge their family and take back the throne from horrible CDs

[runic dock]

True …it’s just the method that which he goes about it …

Which I still wonder if it’s mom influenced or not

[ashen perch]

I want to see him use that power on major characters, like Sanji. I thought Zoro would've been a cool option too. Usopp's also a good option even now. Jinbe as well

[wraith mantle]

people just forget about ida and it pisses me off

[runic dock]

In that sense you gota point , let’s see what his whole point of these dream monsters is

[tough igloo]

yeah she probably did since we see at god valley she knew of rocks plan , would make sense to tell the last davy member who’s also your child how to succeed where your pops aka your husband failed

[wraith mantle]

ida the best mother oda ever created

[tough igloo]

Ida #3 for me

[runic dock]

But like I wonder if she instilled into his mind that he must “do this no matter what” at the cost of friends and lives

[tough igloo]

i’m bias with Eris when i found out she used to be a pirate who Rocks of all people fell for when he was stuck on Shakky

[wraith mantle]

2 spots too low

[grand flower]

Sanji and Jamesbei will probably swim to save people inside Zaza, so Nami can freeze her

Sanji gonna treat it like a competition

Theyll probably tie

[runic dock]

Same tho

She’s really interesting

And there’s a lot more to explore there

[dense rapids]

Nerona Imu Descended

Davy Jones will ascend bearing the flag of dawn

[tough igloo]

yeah that’s very interesting …

maybe she did or maybe it’s just Teach being Teach lol

[runic dock]

It’s def not over with

[tough igloo]

but i could see if Eris told him don’t rely or trust anybody like his father did

nor let anyone come in between the goal like his father did

[runic dock]

Could be juicy stuff there

Bro is just Sanji with less steps 💀

[sturdy steeple]

Still can’t believe Oda went for these matchups. It’s the first time for me it’s not obvious lol

[runic dock]

I still think they’ll flip like Enies lobby

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/oestart/status/2052584652766937250

est (@oestart)

Been drawin' these 2 a lot lately lol
#onepiece

X · May 8, 2026, 3:01 AM

[runic dock]

But maybe not

[ashen perch]

What kind of dreams is he having? We'll get our answer soon

[celest mauve]

an army of zoros

[forest jacinth]

[runic dock]

Sanji has lived out all of his nightmares already

Killingham can’t hurt him

[celest mauve]

if oda wants to be funny, zoro
if oda wants to be serious, I would've said judge but I think sanji's gotten over that

[sturdy steeple]

Dude has a massive list, lol. Okama island, Germa, Zoro - all of the things he hate.

[runic dock]

Like …that’s literally a nightmare to him

Fake images can’t compare

This will be nothing

[ashen perch]

Legoland being foreshadowing has been a thing that I've pushed since the day it happened, it really is clear that Oda wrote a lot of it with Elbaf's future in mind

[runic dock]

Ahhh I remember arguing with people in spoilers that the tree we were seeing in Legoland wasn’t the actual ygdrassil tree

[ashen perch]

I would've figured out the Qilingham matchup earlier if I wasn't focusing on Sommers and his love speeches smh

[runic dock]

[ashen perch]

It's actually cool though, Zoro is facing a mega evil Sanji basically

[runic dock]

Yeah , but Sanji isn’t facing a mega evil Zoro

Grrrr

[ashen perch]

Qilingham does have a 3 bladed trident

Close enough...

[runic dock]

Smh fine lmao

[ashen perch]

Yea it somewhat works still, maybe we'll get more on Qilingham though to connect him with Zoro

Well

As Terabyte suggested earlier

[runic dock]

Killingham had a childhood friend he killed on purpose

[ashen perch]

He could just create an army of Zoros

[runic dock]

[sturdy steeple]

I would hope so but I doubt it given their locations.

That’s the first time I prefer Zoro’s opponent over Sanji’s outside of Hachi.

[ashen perch]

Qilingham doesn't have to be the evil Zoro when he can create the evil Zoro

[runic dock]

Was hoping one of them would get DR’d

But this works too

[grand flower]

Imu is throwing around a lot of Omen that seems to be forming into actual steel bullets and bombs

[sturdy steeple]

Someone did mention that Killy’s mental infliction is something that would awake Sanji’s haki to become even stronger.

[grand flower]

Imu is leaving a lot of material for a certain devil fruit to use

[runic dock]

Speaking of , meant to post this panel too

[sturdy steeple]

Meaning the reveal of conq might happen this arc.

[runic dock]

It’s interesting they actually manifested into bullets

Or pellets

[grand flower]

Lot of Omen metal

It persists

That’s what’s most interesting to me

Zoro still has them

[runic dock]

I thought it would just be random magic bulkshit go

[grand flower]

Arsal and I came to the conclusion that it’s like Luffy making goggles

[runic dock]

But it’s interesting it stays as material

[runic dock]

I’m ready

[grand flower]

I wonder if Imu was teleporting his weapons made out of Omen to Gunko’s body when he possessed her

The shotgun that took Brogy’s mighty arm

[runic dock]

He used the book with gunko

With him it’s probably just direct

[grand flower]

Now he’s just using the Omen directly

[ashen perch]

You didn't like Kuroobi?

[grand flower]

Yeeee

[grand flower]

Sanji pieced his ass up

[ashen perch]

Hachi was funny but in a fight he offered very little, Kuroobi had his cool fishman karate techniques that I loved

[sturdy steeple]

He was fine but he’s just a cutout typical henchman number 2.

[runic dock]

I wonder what killingham meant about gunko this chapter , surely she’s just alive and he flippantly didn’t care

She’s probably slowly reforming

[sturdy steeple]

Hachi at the very least is far more interesting.

Fight wise Sanji’s was better, yeah. But as a CHARACTER he wasn’t particularly unique.

[ashen perch]

Yeah Hachis definitely a way more interesting character but Kuroobi was the more interesting fighter by far between the two

[runic dock]

I love thinking about arlong park retrospectively , like what if zoro was never injured by mihawk? He could’ve probably taken Arlong himself just fine

Luffy wouldn’t have even needed to act

Hachi was only a challenge at all due to the injury

[ashen perch]

East Blue is just really funny on this

[sturdy steeple]

And then like Mr 2, Jabura and Queen were all the characters I enjoyed more. This is the first time that’s different if we’re not counting early OP.

[ashen perch]

Oda knew that he wanted his protagonists to be above that East Blue level

But that at the same time forced him to get very silly with the nerfs

[runic dock]

I know you mentioned location but with teleportation in play I’m still hoping for a flip at some point, love vs dark love is too good

[sturdy steeple]

That’d be so Oda if we they switched lol

[ashen perch]

I really don't want a flip atp

I'm really excited for these matchups

[sturdy steeple]

Especially because in the panels we have Sanji is below Sommers and Zoro is below Killy.

[runic dock]

They made sense at the time , mihawks injury played brilliantly into the plot

[sturdy steeple]

That’d be hilarious

Buuuut

[ashen perch]

Well the injury one is the least silly, I was thinking of Syrup Village's oiled slopes and Luffy getting stuck in concrete lmao

[runic dock]

Zoro and Sanji are losing their match ups horribly when for some reason they realize they need to switch , their lines of “don’t fuck up!” This chapter playing as foreshadow

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji needs to hand Killingham’s bitch ass again on a platter for disrespecting him. And Sommers despite being a perfect opponent in terms of ideology has powers that Sanji counters.

[ashen perch]

The thing with Sanji v Sommers is that its just too easy for Sanji

[sturdy steeple]

Like heavily counters

[runic dock]

That would be why it would be a great match for Sanji see how he rises above that

[ashen perch]

His flammable thorns kill the matchup

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah that was too much

[runic dock]

That’s why CoC comes in

[sturdy steeple]

Idk why couldn’t we have the same shit as with GB

[runic dock]

It needs to be that tough

[ashen perch]

With Zoro, he will ofc struggle to cut the thorns, like even Gaban's attacks were already blocked

And this is a powered up Sommers

[dapper tree]

Zoro has the fire fox style so he can just use flames

[runic dock]

for zoro , killingham can summon kuina with three swords or some shit

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah Sommers is a pretty capable fighter if things get to throwing hands in melee.

[dapper tree]

But zoro isn't gonna remember he stole that style

[trim lily]

killingham apparently sucks when actually fighting so i wonder how thatll go

[sturdy steeple]

Like against Gaban despite the massive gap in their strength he stood decently.

[ashen perch]

Kinemon is probably the only one who can do that tbh, Zoro's never summoned flames like that

[runic dock]

He’s not that stupid come on now

[dapper tree]

He did pretime skip

[ashen perch]

That was Usopp

[sturdy steeple]

Killy and Sommers seem to be on the same level.

[ashen perch]

Kinemon is just better at his own style, that makes sense to me

[dapper tree]

Zoro could

[ashen perch]

Zoro can cut flames but he won't be able to set his sword on fire, unlike Kinemon

[dapper tree]

He knows it

[sturdy steeple]

This is gonna sound corny but I feel like the best case scenario for Sanji’s nightmare is him fighting his dark version.

[unkempt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/kinemon-kaido-one-piece-akazaya-nine-scabbards-gif-25130401

[runic dock]

The coc can act as flames

[ashen perch]

He won't and that's why we're having this matchup

[runic dock]

Done deal

[sturdy steeple]

The warrior of science without emotions.

[dapper tree]

Zoro is a bum who would forgot to use it anyway

[ashen perch]

The matchup works because Zoro will struggle

[unkempt sable]

Every time Kinemon is mentioned I must pull out the Kinemon blast

[dapper tree]

Or remember after the fight

[grand flower]

Sommers might put thorns on Zoros swords

[unkempt sable]

!cook

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211111343852228638/1217510693411229746/cook.png?ex=66044a31&is=65f1d531&hm=fda7fc91afb3dda1c7a90192efda3372e268931d0bcc5db2b97d635b65b260ae&

[runic dock]

Yeah idk what zoro would do then

[sick dust]

What’s the matchup?

[runic dock]

If he can’t lift his actually weapon of choice

[grand flower]

Thug it out

[unkempt sable]

Fight through the pain

[ashen perch]

Emoji but real...

[runic dock]

That’s like sanjislegs being tied

[unkempt sable]

Or just box

[runic dock]

Wait Sanji is better

[ashen perch]

I think that'd be cool keep, I don't think its corny at all

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-gif-24675920

[grand flower]

Sommers and Zoro will clash over how Sommers glorifies pointless death(ahem) and Zoro has a very stern stoicism about death

[sturdy steeple]

Man, Zoro and Sanji actually dislike going for the easier prey. Flying enemy? Yeah, let Zoro take it. An enemy that is as durable as a tank? Let’s go with Sanji.

[grand flower]

Zoro would really hate Sommers

[sturdy steeple]

I wonder if that has anything to do with them wanting to get better.

[unkempt sable]

I think everyone would

[runic dock]

What is Zoro gonna do with thorns on his swords? No sword style again?

Or just hold them anyway

[sturdy steeple]

Understandably so. But it does sound that way after 1000000 memes with Dark Sanji

Zoro might turn into a cheese by the end of the fight…

[dapper tree]

Tank it

[runic dock]

“Something happened…”

[dapper tree]

Zoro would just take the chip damage

[sick dust]

Just because Sommers was buffed doesn’t automatically make him a good fighter

We seen Garling get washed by rocks

[runic dock]

I don’t even mean fighting rn , I’m talking about one particular strategy

That could easily be used

[grand flower]

Yeah just thug it out

Until he figures out how to use Haki to expel em

[runic dock]

Bro is gonna be bleeding thick black ooze by the end of the arc as a level up

[sick dust]

Also why are we talking about strategy with Zoro?

[runic dock]

Strategy against Zoro

[sick dust]

This is the same guy who’s whole plan was to ”slash Domi reverse giants”

And that’s it

[sturdy steeple]

Well yeah

The answer is “tank it”

That’s Zoro’s approach

He seems less damaged than Sanji for obvious reasons. That might be a clue that he’ll have to go through 9 circles of pain soon lol

[runic dock]

Bruh…in the word character polls , the one updated for this week has Zoro winning every single poll

[wraith mantle]

dragon sneak in one of them too

crazy week

[runic dock]

Tbf , they got hit with different attacks , and I’m not sure why Oda depicted it that way , he could’ve just had imu same attack twice , Zoro got hit with bullets and Sanji got hit with massive haki bomb

Sanji’s damage is more widespread fairly enough

[sturdy steeple]

Bots!

[runic dock]

First comment said that lmao

Maybe it was

[sturdy steeple]

It might be but, y’know, until we see some actual graphs we ain’t really deducing shit lol

It’s not surprising though, it’s Zoro. Can easily happen.

[runic dock]

True

[dapper tree]

Zoro's entire plan against Sommers is to cut him up until he finds the heart and then cut that up

[runic dock]

Well that’s true , zoro already knows about the steel heart

So it’s just a smaller more tricky pica?

[dapper tree]

Pretty much

Zoro just needs to atomize sommers

[sturdy steeple]

That’s because Sanji by definition now can tank more. It’d feel weird if a guy with an exoskeleton got dealt with simple bullets.

[dapper tree]

Sanji got exploded

[sturdy steeple]

And like I said, that might be a clue that Zoro is about to get hurt.

[runic dock]

Also good point

[dapper tree]

Zoro needs to take damage for no reason

[sturdy steeple]

Like most of his iconic fights consist of him beating up his opponent through pain and injuries.

[dapper tree]

So sommers is his optimal opponent

[grand flower]

Imu probably picked up that Sanjis really fast

Bullets arent as good to use against him, he’ll dodge

[dapper tree]

Too fast for bullets

[runic dock]

True!!!

He dodged like 15 attacks at once at th wedding

[dapper tree]

So just explode him instead

[runic dock]

No one can tell me otherwise

15

[grand flower]

Probably the same damage, just in different forms

[dapper tree]

Sanji can dodge time remember.

[grand flower]

Sanji be hoofin it

[runic dock]

Oda would’ve highlighted that more if it was exactly the same , but it showed Sanji’s pain actually mentioned

Keeper is right it’s foreshadow to more pain for zoro

[charred lintel]

what happened to the spoiler channel

[grand flower]

Closes when the chapter comes out

[sturdy steeple]

Well, I mean

[grand flower]

He is a damage sponge

[runic dock]

After latest leaker got arrested , spoiler chat won’t show pictures or spoiler texts , you can just talk about spoilers in spoiler channel only

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji’s exoskeleton being a thing means he can take more

So he got hit with a stronger attack

[dapper tree]

[grand flower]

Eyebrow wasn’t flipped

Wasn’t Super Sanji

Stocks still way up

I look for that every time now

[sturdy steeple]

It was a bit weird tbh

He hit Imu with IJ and then suddenly his eyebrows switched

Definitely not the best decision when you’re trying to defend yourself. Might just not be important

[grand flower]

When the investigation shows the eyebrow hasnt flipped

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-rubbing-hands-together-spice-adams-vyd3n-meme-man-behind-tree-meme-gif-2569343513927502347

[runic dock]

We already know all about Sanji’s genetics , it’s not like it would hint at anything anyway

[grand flower]

He’s been using Ifrit without the flip for a bit now

[runic dock]

It would just be a little fun fact Easter egg

[grand flower]

Probably building up his natural resistance

[sturdy steeple]

I don’t think we’ve ever seen him use it without a flip

[grand flower]

Egghead I think

I’m gonna shower then look

But in Elbaph for sure

Against Iscat

Damn it’s flipped in the anime

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-spongebob-ice-cream-truck-spongebon-crashed-spongebob-hold-on-gif-10436656614678318733

I’ll be back

[sturdy steeple]

I think that was a mistake

Like his eyebrow is still flipped at the beginning of the attack

But then it’s not

Could’ve been fixed in volume corrections

Idk where I can check them though

In Egghead he did have his eyebrow flipped though. Nothing fancy there.

[grand flower]

😔

[austere flint]

Zaza

[rich hornet]

If other readers didn’t point it out, I would have gone my whole life not noticing the eyebrow change at all. I just can’t imagine paying that much attention to Sanji, but glad that others do

[thick mango]

what signal are we supposed to take from it as intentional? Or is i just pointing out a mistake?

[rich hornet]

Isnt it supposed to happen when his Germa mode kicks on? I don’t really understand, like I said

[latent hamlet]

Its weird cuz in wano it was a sign of his germa abilities kicking in but now it just seems to be purely innate

And its like what's the point of the eyebrow if its purely passive

Zoro's king of hell seems like a "im trying really hard super mode" by comparison

[grand flower]

Yeah

[rich hornet]

I guess it could be one of those things he’s supposed to incorporate into base over time. But yeah it’s pretty early after getting the power for that

[trim lily]

if i didnt know any better id assume it was a mistake

[thick mango]

mistakes do exist, remember early elbaf when people thought the mistakes must be evidence of absinthe halluncination

[grand flower]

Oda’s talked about it

[trim lily]

such an incredible combination of events

[grand flower]

Said to keep watching for it

The other vinsmokes have theirs flipped the other way permanently

[wraith mantle]

idk why oda went with the nerf mu route

i wonder if its his way of avoiding humbling the strawhats too badly at this stage of the story

"they wont suffer a terrible defeat because imu is nerfed"

[deep chasm]

I mean Id say that if it wasnt a nerf that presumably imu has anytime hes in the underworld

like thatrs probably just a relevant aspect of his character/story/abilities

instead of just what would count as a usual nerf for a character in a particular battle

[latent hamlet]

Well even when he first appeared he was not exactly in prime perfect condition

[trim lily]

it both explains why imu isnt on the surface more, and lets him show off imu without having him obliterate everyone and win

[latent hamlet]

He could have killed Loki but didnt, and now seems to be paying for it because Loki is all dragoned up

[latent hamlet]

The funny thing is people just assume he's a HK too so he's still got some anonymity working for him

But he cant stick around for long without feeling miserable

Plus he's kind of a beeg dood with his own powers pretty much announcing himself

[grand flower]

I wouldn’t take it as Imu is any weaker. He just can’t hang around for too long

[deep chasm]

well I highly doubt Imu is actually feeling pressure here

like he could probably still kill loki in dragon form if he was trying his best

[trim lily]

i think he is genuinely a bit hurt from nidhogg

but its nothing he cant handle

[grand flower]

Imus reacted to some of Lokis attacks like theyre dangerous

He hasn’t been very stoic

[deep chasm]

I mean I think nidhogg is genuinely able to keep up, but its like kaido and luffy pre g5 if you ask me

[trim lily]

he put up a shield after all

[latent hamlet]

Its a lightning ice blast from 2 entities that he knew from back in the day

[deep chasm]

imu isnt actually thinking damn I might lose

[trim lily]

yeah

[grand flower]

And looked alerted before it

[latent hamlet]

Bro is like "well shit I havent felt this in a while"

I dont think he thinks he'd lose but he probably thinks he's gotta exert some more effort now

[grand flower]

Yeah I think he’s thinking “okay I need to block this”

[trim lily]

im glad imu doesnt have regen

[latent hamlet]

He could have killed loki with the sword move after all but didnt

[trim lily]

at least not like the knights

[latent hamlet]

Now things have dragged into a range blasting duel

[grand flower]

If Imu can make real bullets and bombs, I wonder if that’s the regeneration

It’s rebuilding their bodies out of Omen

Maybe they really are cyborgs

[latent hamlet]

In a way u could say imu messed up for not killing loki but at the same time imu still wanted to recruit

[trim lily]

probably

[grand flower]

Well they gotta be

[trim lily]

it’s like an omen logia

[grand flower]

Sommers’ heart is metal

[trim lily]

i think sommers is an exception

[deep chasm]

yea I dont think this is an imu messed up situation is what I was tryna say

[trim lily]

given harald got promoted without having his heart replaced lol

[blazing depot]

Why didn’t Captain John magnet every knight at god valley? Was he stupid?

[deep chasm]

like idk, maybe hindsight will say hey he couldve killed loki here. But I dont think currently hes in a difficult situation particularly

[dapper tree]

At least not outside the holy land

[rich hornet]

As far as we know

[latent hamlet]

If imu was in full murder mode, loki probably would already be dead or severely wounded, but imu wanted to recruit him

[trim lily]

yeah i guess he could’ve gotten it offscreen

[latent hamlet]

Loki said eat shit and die

And then whacked him and blasted him while imu was reminiscing

[rich hornet]

Or it happens to you as part of the contract

[deep chasm]

Yes I agree He would have killed loki already if he was doing his best while loki was in base. But I think the idea that imu messed up makes it seem like okay now he's in a tight spot

I dont rlly think hes in a tight spot

[latent hamlet]

Its not terrible for him yet but the battle didnt end as fast as he probably would like

[dapper tree]

Imu has taken more damage from existing than loki

[latent hamlet]

Now they're in an exchange of ranged blasting

[dapper tree]

So anyway I started blasting

[latent hamlet]

If anything
I believe imu's "defeat" is just him leaving before he can accomplish all his goals

Which really just means stop Sommers and killer ham

[rich hornet]

Frank would no diff imu

[deep chasm]

Vivi will save the day

[dapper tree]

Imu will put luffy and loki in the dirt but lose cause they took up too much time

[latent hamlet]

Loki+Ragnir and eventually luffy are basically the only ones keeping that need to keep Imu occupied for his timer to run out and Sommers and killer ham get taken out

[deep chasm]

imu will be about to win but vivi shows up and hes shy

[dapper tree]

[deep chasm]

maybe dragon can also be there but wont be the actual reason imu leaves

[latent hamlet]

Dragon aint showing up for shit

He's too busy looking east as his soldiers starve the CDs

[deep chasm]

hey man the rain god dragon theories aint too bad

[dapper tree]

Dragon too busy abouta get dabbed on my BB

[trim lily]

vivi can’t both get the paw fruit and be a rain god

pick one

[deep chasm]

not vivi

shes getting the paw fruit

dragon raid god

easy

[dapper tree]

Vivi getting paws

Nami gets rain god outta nowhere

[latent hamlet]

I suppose the question now is will imu be able to defeat loki+ragnir now before luffy or will luffy team up with them and force imu into a...less than desirable battle

[dark nymph]

FACT; Vivi fans want Kuma dead ASAP

[trim lily]

she still needs to get the snow fruit

[latent hamlet]

We'd do him a favor ending him now

[iron oriole]

If Vivi ain't the Rain God then its Toto

[latent hamlet]

[dapper tree]

Luffy will take over once loki loses

[latent hamlet]

Thats probably more likely yea

[dark nymph]

Put him out of his misery fr

[dapper tree]

Luffy uses ragnir

Get hyped

[urban lodge]

You all ready for yonko level Vivi with Zaza powers and paw paw fruit?

[iron oriole]

What if Ragnir uses Luffy instead

[dapper tree]

No

[latent hamlet]

What late game party member recruitment does to u

We sorta had that with yamato

[trim lily]

damn level curve

[latent hamlet]

And then oda was like wait no too strong for the crew rn

inserts Bonney

[iron oriole]

Vivi didn't join so she could scale for late game

[latent hamlet]

Close enough

[dark nymph]

Yamato was actually too high level

[trim lily]

that’s loki

[latent hamlet]

Loki is actually just a guest member

That stays for way too long

[celest mauve]

I'm ready for vivi to get neither

[latent hamlet]

We get vivi joining after alabasta she'd just have Peacock Slasher + Double Pistol

[latent hamlet]

Now she joins its Blades of the Storm Goddess

[iron oriole]

She had to go farm bis gear before joining

Was one of the reqs Luffy said to her

[dark nymph]

That Nami face is so meme-coded

[latent hamlet]

Plot twist: yamato "joins" when we also recruit Momo and Kinemon at the same time....somehow

Momo is upscaled to Kaido level

[hasty sable]

Yamato and Loki would throw off the entire group dynamic tbh

[iron oriole]

Pretty low then

[hasty sable]

Both would easily be second strongest in the crew

[latent hamlet]

Jimbei proves otherwise

[celest mauve]

loki has a good argument to be stronger than luffy

[iron oriole]

Zoro & Sanji will probably surpass where Yamato is this arc

[hasty sable]

Jinbei is third strongest

[iron oriole]

Loki is yeah...

[dark nymph]

Damn, I don’t want Yamato to join even more now

[latent hamlet]

Tbh ye I consider him stronger
Cuz then u have to ask
"Can luffy kill HK Harald"

[thick mango]

i could see yamato going to laugh tale along with law. I think its gonna be a big crowd not jusst the 10 main sh

[dark nymph]

Every breath Kinemon breaths pisses me off

[hasty sable]

He can tbh

[iron oriole]

I think its a bit unfair with Loki though, at all times its at least a 2v1

[celest mauve]

with a smaller version of bajrang gun he could, but he would have to apply his haki the same way

the bigger problem is stamina

[latent hamlet]

And HK Harald was arguably the strongest entity in the verse not including Imu

[hasty sable]

Sabaody trio could all beat Loki imo

[thick mango]

thats gotta be bait for sure

it almost got me till the sticker reminded me lol

[hasty sable]

Looool

[dark nymph]

Luffy is gonna look better than Loki here but only because Loki took a nasty blow while chained up

[latent hamlet]

Ye luffy probably has the fire power but wouldnt be capable of pulling it off easily

[dark nymph]

Supposedly needs months to heal btw

[latent hamlet]

Imu will probably also be more worn out

[iron oriole]

Yeah if he was some chump Giant

That Zoan recovery is pumping though

[celest mauve]

he'll only look better if oda stops making him gas out after a few attacks, loki has had zero rest since leaving the underworld realm and he's still going

wait I'm lying, he did get to eat food

[hasty sable]

Luffy beat Kaido with three lives. Only takes the one for Loki.

[dark nymph]

I think part of the point from that dialogue and having Shamrock injure Loki was to introduce some vagueness to how strong Loki is

Oda loves doing ts

[celest mauve]

still, he hasn't been shriveling up and becoming useless like luffy

[iron oriole]

Loki's stamina is definitely up there as potentially best in the verse

[hasty sable]

He can fight Loki with Gear 4 and haki

[frigid gulch]

Loki’s probably fine

[grand flower]

That’s probably a consequence of all the super stretching

[frigid gulch]

His recovery is noted to be pretty good

[grand flower]

It’s like he loses elasticity for a bit

Turns wrinkly

[hasty sable]

Ofc even with Gear 5 he just has to eat. Been a legitimate strategy since Katakuri.

[grand flower]

Ha

Luffy gets old csuse he’s worn out rubber

[celest mauve]

https://x.com/i/status/2053511342221340920

Ayoub (@AwarenaNoAyoub_)

He knows😅

X · May 10, 2026, 4:23 PM

[grand flower]

When was that

[celest mauve]

that's what I'm trying to find

[dark nymph]

The story is only about 5? Damn Oda

[distant vine]

People were talking about Bonney surpassing Zoro and Law but as soon as she sees the Holy Knights she's like "If I go over there IM FINISHED!!" 😂

[grand flower]

I doubt it’s authenticity entirely if it’s hard to find a date tbh

[hasty sable]

I think Bonney could probably take a holy knight

[iron oriole]

Archer this material is really poor

[hasty sable]

They are not really that strong on their own

[dark nymph]

I mean I think she can take no-omen Killingham

[celest mauve]

apparently it's from 2009, old but the SHs already had nine members

[hasty sable]

Without omen I think she could take Killy or Sommers yeah

[urban lodge]

I think Killingham kinda hard counters her

[urban lodge]

She's a child and her powers are imagination based, Killingham can totally take advantage of that

[celest mauve]

yeah he said this in 2009 after brook had already joined lol

[hasty sable]

Nika future Bonney

She scares Killingham

[dark nymph]

I think he means “originally it was about 5” cause ain’t no way

If that source is even real ofc

[iron oriole]

If what Saturn said about her fruit is true too, Killingham can just feed her info to weaken her since supposedly the more she knows about reality etc the weaker she gets

[hasty sable]

Zoro Zoro Zoro

[iron oriole]

Killingham is afraid of Zaza

[urban lodge]

Yeah

Imagine he summons the evil nika and completely breaks her worldview

Hypothetically if she didn't know Luffy

[iron oriole]

I kinda wanted that to happen after the Gunko comment about Nika being her greatest fear, though that could have been Imu's influence rather than her own thoughts

[rich hornet]

He’s right

[dark nymph]

I thought Killy was talking about that at the start, like he shared Gunkos fear

Zaza is cool tho

Jinbei victim unfortunately

[hasty sable]

Oda remembers Sanji is afraid of bugs

[rich hornet]

Or Brook, or Franky, or Nami. The SH’s have a great kit for dealing with something made of water

[urban lodge]

Why only one

[latent hamlet]

U know that just reminds me
Killer ham made Zaza by accident

[urban lodge]

Make it an awesome raid boss

[iron oriole]

Yeah he didn't mean to bring his own fear out

[latent hamlet]

Did he really go
"I wonder what would be really spooky....I know what im afraid of....OH FUCK"

[latent hamlet]

"What is your duty"
"To make big fodder for the other SHs"

[iron oriole]

I think he just got a bit excited with the omen boost etc & wanting to show off but then brought out the one thing he's afraid of the most

[urban lodge]

We love her anyway

[runic dock]

And I like how it looks “nicer” than the other nightmares due to it being a CD fear

[rich hornet]

I also appreciate that it’s implied he could only pull something this impressive off because he’s omen boosted, and got carried away by his power. So there are theoretical limitations on what he can usually manifest

[latent hamlet]

Tbf Zaza is quite detailed and seems capable of using its water abilities as it was feared

The rest was more "Unga bunga"

Basically he made his summon lore accurate

[iron oriole]

I do wonder who is going to deal with Zaza though, Sanji has to deal with Killingham so he can't really spend time trying to save the kids & idt fire vs water will work well

[runic dock]

If it weren’t for already grabbing some hostages , jinbei would’ve made short work of it

[iron oriole]

Its just the childrens image of their fear vs an adults

[latent hamlet]

I just assume its less CD fear more "I got a lot of details on what im afraid of + the boost"

[dark nymph]

That’s pretty cool, this means Summers vines are even more durable/sharp

[runic dock]

Could be , but I like how that forms it the case by accident : you see all these regular people’s fears as jaggedy teeth and evil looking , even nika , but the one CD fear is actually an elegant woman lol

[dark nymph]

Their DFs get a buff from Omen

I gotta turn off AC

[iron oriole]

A child can't really describe their fears with such intense detail due to lack of knowledge etc thats why they look almost cartoony but an adult is able to fully realise what their deepest fears are so when Killingham brought out Zaza its in the fullest detail Killingham knows & can imagine

[dark nymph]

peak peak peak

[iron oriole]

Was also hinted earlier on in the arc when the Giants questioned the Loki MMA

[runic dock]

Weren’t the mom monsters from the husbands fears too ?

Or just the kids still

[iron oriole]

They were just the kids iirc

[dark nymph]

The panel after this one too

[runic dock]

Ah ok

[iron oriole]

Idt any adult other than Killingham has had their fear brought out yet

[runic dock]

If this was a more coordinated assault they could really do some nasty work : Turn Sanji or Zoro DR PLUS ALSO create a fear of one of them based on the others nightmares

DR Sanji + evil nightmare Sanji vs Zoro

[iron oriole]

DR Sanji would be a fun call back to Wano when Sanji asked Zoro to kill him if he's not himself after

[runic dock]

Yepp

[iron oriole]

Idt any SH will get DR'd though

[ruby moat]

Zoro can’t kill dr Sanji did u see him the gap in their speed

[deep chasm]

if someone besides sanji was doing it then jinbe would seem to be the best choice

and jinbe has already had issues with killingham

[urban lodge]

I think it will be the weaker straw hats (yes this includes Jimbei) vs Zaza and Sanji vs Killingham

[iron oriole]

Jimbei is the perfect choice, Nami can't really fight it since it already has the kids hostage.. lightning in water & all

Usopp & Brook are probably out of action for a while

Franky should be a bad matchup too

[latent hamlet]

Killer ham: we fear rain cuz we dont know what its like

Jimbei: no wonder u hate fishmen

[topaz mortar]

What’s up with this bird

I wonder if Biblo is just really really old

[leaden tiger]

If this pans out to something important like this panel seems to imply i think oda should have set it up much earlier

[small ember]

Zaza looks sick

[small ember]

Yeah idk what this was about

[topaz mortar]

I think biblo is just older than they appear, way older than the giants

Maybe has some useful lore to provide

[latent hamlet]

biblo for all we know was physical witness to the lore

and is like "i cant talk for shit so imma just keep these records"

[dapper tree]

Post arc stuff

[dapper tree]

Jinbei vs a rain god through who's better at water manipulation would be peak

[latent hamlet]

the water of the sky vs the water of the ocean

but little did killer ham knows

all water from the skies return to the ocean

[dapper tree]

Jinbei upscale

Coming in

He needs to redeem himself for being box carrying and the thinker.

Do y'all think killingham can summon things stronger than himself?

[latent hamlet]

unless stated otherwise it seems possible

[dense haven]

CHAPTER OUT

[dapper tree]

I feel like Zaza would normally be stronger than killingham

[latent hamlet]

i cant imagine his current abilities fighting zaza well for example

[dapper tree]

But he's got an omen buff rn

[unkempt dagger]

The irony would be Killingham getting attacked by his own creation

[deep chasm]

like as in

the MMA?

[dense haven]

so whats up with bilbo

what do yall think

[deep chasm]

Im sure he cant necessarily create an MMA stronger than himself, tho maybe he'd lose from being scared of it

[unkempt dagger]

The best nightmare is the ones we have no control over after all!

[latent hamlet]

there's already a possibility with that with what killer ham said

sommers was like can u control it?

"well....i made it...so maybe?"

[deep chasm]

Arsal may be right in biblo being a friend of joyboys

something to do with void century or even before surely

[latent hamlet]

for all we know biblo was personal witness to the lore back then

[deep chasm]

yea probably

[latent hamlet]

but he's just a beeg owl so he's just a record keeper

[dense haven]

who isn't a friend of joyboy at this point

I want something else ngl

[solid brook]

hello

[latent hamlet]

ragnir was also squeaking at imu like "oi u shithead, fuck off back home"

and immediately went for the combo attack

[dense haven]

bilbo is lois arnot in zoan form

[leaden tiger]

Now were cooking

He overstayed his welcome and turned into an owl

[rich hornet]

But he has the grow fruit

[gleaming notch]

la dee da

[ruby moat]

Biblo is the man with the burn scar

[dapper tree]

Easy

That helps us skip a whole arc looking for them

[rich hornet]

Better option than Gyaban

[next estuary]

My gf is catching back up

[urban sluice]

oh thats nice hi euge

[next estuary]

Hi AI!

[urban sluice]

hru today

[stone terrace]

My wife is banned from reading op

[next estuary]

Chillin my sis graduated from college I got back from the cabin we rented a few hours ago

[ruby moat]

Holy shit is that the Big Dipper

[next estuary]

I took that shit on my phone dude

There were so many stars out

[urban sluice]

oh thats nice to hear, have fun with the cabin

[next estuary]

I’d never seen so many before

[ruby moat]

I had this one photo I took with my phone that looks completely black unless u turn ur brightness all the way up in which case a shooting star is revealed

[next estuary]

That’s so dope tho

[ruby moat]

Yours looks pretty good for a phone pic

[next estuary]

Space is so cool

And it’s amazing how good of a pic I got on just an iPhone

[ruby moat]

Absolutely

[next estuary]

First night there I just laid in the hammock and just kept seeing more stars

Felt like a kid with a telescope again

[ruby moat]

Hell yea

I’d have to redownload Snapchat to find the pic I got sadly

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/polonyalii-1

[ruby moat]

That’s a very talented dog!

[next estuary]

This how Oda be balancing work/life/gooning

[grand flower]

Wyd

[frigid gulch]

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Clairvoyant (@ClairvoyantEye1)

#OnePiece

Mihawk and Crocodile were both threatening to kill Buggy when Cross Guild was first formed. Angry at him being the perceived leader of their group, they refused to hear his excuses or explanations for how it happened.

But when Mihawk sees Galdino betray Buggy, he

X · May 10, 2026, 2:45 AM

Holy cook

[dense rapids]

Nerona and Davy

[charred flower]

Cross Guils is kind of what would've happened if Usopp was the Captain and Zoro (Mihawk) and Robin? (Croco) didn't found Luffy in their journey

A lone wolf and a distrusting assassin

Join forces with a liar

[midnight elm]

Shanks agenda on top btw

[dapper tree]

When is it not?

[dense haven]

shanks is HIM

[maiden saffron]

the new episode is like a movie

oh man

the anime is so good recently

the quality of the art is consistently so much higher, new sound effects

great composition

[thick mango]

do we know when its gonna stop for the season?

beginning of gv flashback probs?

[maiden saffron]

i think this run is slated for 26 eps?

[thick mango]

and its been like 4?

[maiden saffron]

yep

[dapper tree]

13 now. 13 more at the end of the year

[thick mango]

are they doing about a chap an ep so far?

[maiden saffron]

oh is that so

yes

exactly a chapter

i think they're gonna do multi chapter episodes in the later half of the arc

dare i say, the episodes dont feel slow at all

the last ones have been great

the block land stuff was a bit annoying though

[charred flower]

Besides the consistent animation I'm reaaaally happy with the sound effects, they were reusing some assets from the original dragon ball for the past 20 years ffs

[maiden saffron]

also every episode has dedicated eyecatchers

[ionic palm]

man, Im really struggling to determine if the Loki panels of him complaining about his size is showing him shrinking in size or just typical Oda size inconsistency. One panel has Ragnir the size of a basketball on Loki's head but then moments later Loki's head is the same size as Ragnir essentially which would indicate that Loki's fruit lets him shrink his size at will. And there's some sort of sfx that seems to indicate a shrinking effect in that specific panel.

[crude nebula]

Its too drastic to be inconsistency

[frigid gulch]

It’s probably Loki downsizing

Or Ragnir increasing in size

Most likely the former tho

[ionic palm]

thats what Im assuming, but its somewhat difficult to tell. Doesnt help that this part has been heavily overlooked by everyone.

[dapper tree]

Small loki

SH confirmed

[pulsar path]

Guys

Where the hell is the Mario Zoro lost in the end of Bowser level meme

It's like gone form the world

[tranquil mantle]

So is viva the sleeptid?

[pulsar path]

Sekai!

[frigid gulch]

First panel he transforms back to base

Same sfx and indicator

So something is changing

Given tho how he’s talking about it being a pain to track him due to his size and Nidhogg scaling to user size

It’s prob Loki

[formal wagon]

is this chapter worth reading or can i just pretend we get a 3 week break

[dapper tree]

It's only worth it for the last page

Otherwise it's all setup

[pulsar path]

I liked it!

[thick mango]

yeah it was decent but not great, one of those inbetween chapters that needs to exist but doesnt have that much on its own

[frigid gulch]

Read it for Ognib ideas

[thick mango]

i guess the zaza thing was the biggest thing

[frigid gulch]

[thick mango]

lol true i bet you can make a handful of bad theories off zaza

[formal wagon]

wait true

[keen falcon]

Spit one out

[formal wagon]

zoro is zaza

first one that came to mind

im gonna spitball a few

[keen falcon]

zoro zaza blue haki

[formal wagon]

omen causes mpreg

[keen falcon]

arlong zaza

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-burning-blood-one-piece-video-game-arlong-fishman-gif-810380388045402204

[formal wagon]

biblo is the real saul

zoro and sanji are zombies

[thick mango]

I do think along should return

Not enel though

[formal wagon]

Bjorn is in leauge with the WG

[near scroll]

i want a moon arc so badly tho 😔 would also differentiate luffy from roger yk

honestly it would be cool if zaza was an actual confirmed awakened logia yk instead of the same mythical zoan slop

[thick mango]

I'd be fine with going to the moon and meeting enel

The half I think I would dislike but who knows maybe it's done well is enel coming back down from the moon

[hazy patrol]

the rain god looks so fun

such a nice design and art

[thick mango]

Though I do kinda feel like the ship has sailed. I imagined we would escape from the siege of egghead in a rocket to go to the moon

[near scroll]

maybe the lunarians were fron the moon or smth

idk

[hazy patrol]

its on their name too

lunar

yk

[near scroll]

ye exactly

[hazy patrol]

why does this bud feel so suspicious

[thick mango]

Suspicious how like what do you expect he's up to

[hazy patrol]

idk man the look on his face just feels weird

im probably just tripping

he looks like he doesnt gaf about what he did

like theres some other intention behind it

[thick mango]

I feel like if he were a wg agent he woulda sprung into action already

And I'm.not sure what else he coukd be up to

[formal wagon]

he's the real saul

[keen falcon]

I mean saul was acting suspicious of him

Definitely something we don't know

[thick mango]

In what chapter?

[fast pagoda]

Better give him a call

[crude nebula]

1182

[thick mango]

Oh I thought you meant before like in act 1 pre flashback

[keen falcon]

Oh nah lol

I hope we get biblo flashback

[thick mango]

I don't get what's sus though. I guess it's that he managed to save the books?

[crude nebula]

He just doesn’t talk, has a devil fruit we dont know, protects the books for some reason, is way older than the giants maybe even lived in the void century

[dense rapids]

Literally every panel

He gives me a zunesha feeling

[keen falcon]

He's definitely seen some shit

[dense rapids]

Like there eyes have no soul in them or something

[keen falcon]

Eh they have a soul but it's dark

also wait have we gotten a closeup of biblo's eyes?

That looks like zunesha/imu/mihawk's eye from this angle

[dense rapids]

Not literally

[keen falcon]

yeah but I wanted to make a dark souls joke

[formal wagon]

its probably immortality eyes tbh

and gorosei dont have it because imu's granting it

which means mihawk...

mihawk spared zoro because he had a resemblence to the man he defeated to become the strongest

goda

[mighty shell]

maybe the strongest swordsman isn't actually a title it's just the eyes getting passed down and the next strongest getting immortality

[formal wagon]

[keen falcon]

Mihawk's 41 pre-timeskip as stated in SBS 58

[formal wagon]

oda lies

and he's not a canon source

OR mihawk got immortality recently

OR he got deaged

[crude nebula]

With how tired Imu is rn if Blackbeard was able show up and 1v1 him he can just defeat him

[dapper tree]

Well, I'm sure he'd just be sent back to the holy land

And on the holy land he'd have no such limiter

[crude nebula]

Still tired

[thick mango]

Bb is busy planning to nab ancient weapons I really don't expect him in elbaf

He might already be in fmi with the whole mosa thing

[hazy patrol]

how would BB even know about whats happening in elbaf too

[thick mango]

He's mysterious and off page enough that it wouldn't be too hard to believe he has some way to know but yeah there's no evidence of that atp

[keen falcon]

Yeah cause he was over by mariejois

[formal wagon]

bb has a man on the inside

[crude nebula]

Van augur already in elbaf

[keen falcon]

I think

[formal wagon]

sanji is a double agent

[keen falcon]

Oh wait no blackbeard is just at hachinosu but was talking about taking advantage of the mariejois situation

[crude nebula]

Time dilation

[thick mango]

Nah no time dilation required, the exact timing of cutaways is unclear

And augur teleportation makes travel times fuzzy

[keen falcon]

I have zero frame of reference on augur's ability

Can he warp the entire boat and crew at once

[thick mango]

I think that's intentional

[keen falcon]

I don't understand his range or cooldown

Which yeah intentional but still

Very difficult to say anything definitive about him

He's a crazy support in combat though

[thick mango]

Even if we got an exact point of ref, which we kinda did at egghead, he implies he's getting better every day so any point of reference is stale

[crude nebula]

I really wanna see what Blackbeard does, like its gauranteed he’ll do something we see at the end of Elbaf

[keen falcon]

Oh true I think during law vs bb he was saying he was learning

[keen falcon]

I am extremely excited to find out what the next arc even is

It might be lodestar, or vira, or hachinosu, or impel down 2, or anything really

I think the only kinda curveballs we've had post timeskip were egghead and punk hazard

Most islands they're talking about going to quite a bit in advance as a destination soon

[crude nebula]

I’m guessing Loki telling Luffy about Shanks’ whereabouts is gonna lead us to lodestar

They both go look for the man marked by flames

[keen falcon]

I doubt Loki knows where Shanks is and I have doubts the man marked by flames will just be at lodestar

[thick mango]

That's pending the end of elbaf which is still very much up in the air imo

[keen falcon]

And yeah elbaf still has the heaven realm and such

Which it's possible they skip it, but when have they skipped a major third of an island?

[crude nebula]

Nearby probably

[thick mango]

Normally a straw hat success is inevitable but I feel like we're in a spot where they're at atypically high levels of risk

Bad outcomes from elbaf are very possible

[keen falcon]

...cystitis? 😭

[thick mango]

Success lol

[keen falcon]

LMAO

I was so confused what you meant by straw hat bladder infection...

😭

[keen falcon]

I mean with all the emphasis on imu's timer I'm very much betting they'll kind of draw here

[crude nebula]

Feels like its impossible since Zoro and Sanji got their matchups

[keen falcon]

Maybe he hospitalizes a few and they need time to recover before they can leave elbaf

[crude nebula]

Impossible to fail I mean*

[keen falcon]

I definitely think killingham and sommers are getting their shit kicked in again

[thick mango]

It just feels like if we straight up win here with imu in the flesh the wg loses all menace

It'd be like luffy defeating kaido in wano act 1 and him fleeing to onigashima

There's nowhere else to go if imu loses in person

[crude nebula]

If it includes a
-Gunko sacrifice/2 Holy knight deaths
-Luffy and Loki getting powerups/new forms

It’ll be fair

[thick mango]

It would undermine imu for me personally

[crude nebula]

How does this relate to Blackbeard

[keen falcon]

Yeah no way imu's losing

[thick mango]

The idea that they're stronger in their castle and don't have the time limit... who cares? Why do we go to the castle? So we're free to go find the one piece and not even imu can stop us? Imu needs at least a medium win imo

[crude nebula]

The final war IS laughtale

[keen falcon]

Yeah I'm currently not a fan of imu being nerfed at low elevation

[crude nebula]

Imu just has nobodies on his side, no aura or anything

Thats why the revs and koby will take them down

[golden jacinth]

I'd add bb instead of koby

[crude nebula]

Bigger fish to fry for bb

Thats rookie blackbeard

Like shaming luffy for losing to pre timeskip lucci

[keen falcon]

???

[golden jacinth]

What 😭

[keen falcon]

That's yonko blackbeard

[golden jacinth]

People become bb fans but dont know how to defend him 😭

[golden jacinth]

A yonko is a rookie wdym

[crude nebula]

Well im lowkey trolling we all know blackbeards getting a massive powerup

[keen falcon]

Sure but I still feel like luffy will defeat blackbeard before laugh tale and final war

[golden jacinth]

Everyone knows he will get a 3rd df which he maybe already has

[keen falcon]

Their story together has been about fighting to reach the one piece and I'd feel unsatisfied if they still just fought afterwards

[thick mango]

Nah I don't see that happening. Ever since rocks I think it's 100% necessary bb is involved with imu

[keen falcon]

And if luffy doesn't fight bb then what will be his big thing to reach laugh tale

[crude nebula]

I think he’ll get insane Haki when he sees Garps memory, I think hes so delusional he’ll give himself a third personality and insane Haki

[keen falcon]

I don't think we can just have him waltz right on up without a final boss first

[thick mango]

Rocks "I'll be back" wasn't an empty boast it was a promise from oda

[golden jacinth]

Dragon will pull up to elbaf and force imu back to marijoa
Where bb is waiting

[keen falcon]

Buggy will inherit Rocks's will 💪

He'll sit on the empty throne

It's the only way left for buggy to fall upwards even further

[crude nebula]

The final war being a cleanup on Imu just makes no sense

[keen falcon]

I don't see how it makes no sense when it's literally about liberating the planet from the world government's 800 year long tyranny

That's what the whole story's about

[golden jacinth]

It is not 😭

[crude nebula]

The story is over when laughtale is reached him going back and going for a guaranteed victory is so redundant

[golden jacinth]

Imu will die after elbaf

[keen falcon]

Laughtale is not the end

We've already been told that the one piece is going to turn the world upside down

And it'll have the world's juiciest loredumps

[golden jacinth]

Immediately after or in elbaf

[keen falcon]

Luffy already said his dream requires him to become pirate king first

We're not ending it before luffy achieves his dream

[iron oriole]

The One Piece is key to bringing down the WG, Imu's downfall comes after Laughtale

[crude nebula]

against Koby and Dragon in the final war not rn

[golden jacinth]

What 😭 imu is a bb victim 😭

I understand dragon but koby instead of bb 😭😭

[crude nebula]

He’ll get his lick but Imu should survive we saw him in that one panel

[golden jacinth]

😐

[keen falcon]

What would be the point of hearing Joyboy's funny tale if everything about the void century/imu was resolved before they got there

[crude nebula]

It didn’t start with Joyboy and Imu

[keen falcon]

Everything that matters right now did

[crude nebula]

Well that would make the first world and whatever caused Joyboy and Imu to turn out the way they did useless

[keen falcon]

Not useless, but it's more ancient mythological stuff than current relations

The original Nika doesn't really have an ongoing story of his own, Joyboy and Imu do

[crude nebula]

It should all be resolved in one swoop instead of just limiting the current story as a mirror of 800 years ago

The serpent, Niddhog, all the gods need to be included

[keen falcon]

I mean yeah, they will be, we've already touched on niddhoggr and imu

[crude nebula]

You’re still thinking of the story as Nika and Imu we got way too many reveals past that and they all need to interact

[dense rapids]

Mihawk = Saint Michael

Dracule Mihawk

Nerona Michael

[jaunty grail]

The Prince of the Heavenly Host, the strongest angel who was armed with the sword of God and became a key figure in the battle to cast Satan from Heaven

[dense rapids]

[muted hedge]

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A lil' quick thing for Rain God Zaza 💧

X · May 10, 2026, 11:55 PM

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hawk 鹰 (@manofbeskar)

slipping through my fingers all the time

happy mother’s day

#onepiece

X · May 10, 2026, 7:31 PM

[dense rapids]

Gil Bastar upscale

[tidal ice]

same eyes as mu.. do all gods have that

https://tenor.com/view/mihawk-raft-stare-gif-26686878

[muted hedge]

certainly people who aren't gods have it as well

[iron oriole]

I can see the Sun realm getting some wild weather after effects from all the weather shit going on

[muted hedge]

i mean fucking Caribou have ringed eyes for some odd reason

[iron oriole]

Got Loki & Ragnir doing a thunder/lightning & snow storm

Nami doing her thunder & rain with Zeus & now Zaza

[sharp gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-mihawk-dracule-mihawk-candle-mustache-gif-10830742193463951947

[dense rapids]

Someone is about to ger electrocuted with that water everywhere

[muted hedge]

i love that Imu actually uses the ring in his attacks

[iron oriole]

Reminds me of Enels "Mamaragan" so much

[muted hedge]

yeah lol

[dapper tree]

Enel upscale

[muted hedge]

looks like Loki got grounded

hopefully we'll see Loki's hybrid next chapter

[crude nebula]

Oda doesnt wanna end this arc too fast

[iron oriole]

I'm hoping his hybrid is basically a Dragonkin form

[muted hedge]

i hope it's like Kaidos concept art

[tidal ice]

Enel really was the og final boss huh

[crude nebula]

They’re adding his fruit to rell seas yall

[dapper tree]

Enel is gonna show up the final war and nuke the holy land

[muted hedge]

they'll use him like a battery

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[crude nebula]

No

[dense rapids]

Biblo isn’t Biblo

It’s Vivro or Vibro

I think it’s Lily’s and makes sense if Lily was also rain god

[crude nebula]

Biblo is not lily dawg

[dense rapids]

What

[crude nebula]

Is that not what you’re sayibg

[dapper tree]

I liked Zaza

[dense rapids]

I think it’s Lily’s pet

[muted hedge]

i can't wait to see Imu finding out that Zaza is there

[tidal ice]

I do think that owl is ancient af too

[muted hedge]

he'll probably say something regarding the rainfall

[muted hedge]

definitely Joyboy's old companion of some sort

[dense rapids]

Vivi has Karoo

Lily had Vivro/Vibro

[dense rapids]

It’s Vivro

[muted hedge]

i need to know the name of Imu's glaive

i was thinking it could be called "Anguis"

latin for serpent

[crisp helm]

Nightmare Zaza will be a nightmare to deal with.

[prisma yacht]

Biblu is real

[crude nebula]

Pick a door boombayah

[pastel rune]

Doubt it

[dense rapids]

Biblo and Lily

[dense rapids]

Same chapter

[gleaming notch]

yes

[eternal furnace]

🙇🏻‍♂️

[prisma yacht]

What am I looking for

[barren token]

zoro is so fricking cool

[fast pagoda]

I'm sorry this has so much more sauce than opla

[tidal ice]

cover story theories

[azure wasp]

I see you oda
Zaza will change sides because of sanji....

[alpine trench]

Conquerers Haki moment

[rain cedar]

Surely, Sanji vs Sommers isn't off the table yet

I still think it's a better match up than killy vs Sanji

[celest mauve]

sanji and killingham have personal beef with each other, sanji barely knows sommers exists

[rain cedar]

Im well aware

But it's weird that Oda decided to write a guy who's the complete opposite of Sanji but still decided to have him fight against killy

[dense haven]

oda is a hack

[sly belfry]

can we skip the boring part and just get to usopp vs imu

[prisma yacht]

so glue

[prisma yacht]

What is oda planning

Sommers 1v2 against zoro sanji

Oh did I say sommers

I meant

SUPERRR SOMMERSS

[keen falcon]

Idk I just need sommers and killingham to die

[rain cedar]

Literally Sommers is the perfect guy to get his ass whooped by Sanji

But ig it's Killingam for some reason

[barren token]

Its because sommers is stronger than killinham

[prisma yacht]

meh

[fast pagoda]

Yeah I don't get it

Unless either oda really wanted to subvert expectations

Or they will swap opponents

[rain cedar]

That's my opinion as well

[prisma yacht]

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スーパーソマーズ

X · May 11, 2026, 5:05 AM

https://x.com/i/status/2053447780073668727 @digital spear

もっち (@mkz_mo)

髪型かわいいよね

X · May 10, 2026, 12:11 PM

[rain cedar]

Both have world ending powers btw

[stone tulip]

He did say please take it with grain of salt so idk

[safe cove]

so cute

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[safe cove]

yes

[elfin quiver]

guys

[safe cove]

this chapter is very fun

[elfin quiver]

what happens if i ping @ everyone

[safe cove]

death sentence

[elfin quiver]

oh naw... wdym

[stray prism]

Arsal will come back from the dead and haunt you

[stone tulip]

Now we can post images, I can definitely post my evidences in regards to Lili being previous Zaza and Vivi is the new one

[elfin quiver]

He yawned

[safe cove]

this chapter gave us 3 big questions
-why was nidhoggr called traitor
-who is biblo actually
-zaza

[stone tulip]

At least one of them we can narrow the answers down, cause after all Zaza’s existence does answer a lot of questions depending on how is actually the current one

[royal orchid]

how oda feels after making another chapter that asks 5 questions and answers 0.3 questions

[prisma yacht]

Nidhoggr was called traitor bcs he betrayed mu in the past

[stone tulip]

Cause for example if it’s Vivi then this does explain a lot of stuff like why Imu targets her, how Vivi somehow caused the rain to happen, how Lili scattered the poneglphys, and even the connections between Arabasta and Wano with why Arabasta has the poneglphy about Pluton which located to old Wano and that places was drowned by rain water.

But if it’s someone like Nami then it explains how she managed to sense the weather and how abnormal her skill is as navigator

[safe cove]

john elbaph aka god of war stole joyboy from him

[warm sierra]

But then its also why is Nika reincarnated as a fruit but the rain god seemingly not going by these assumptions?