also-manga

[ashen perch]

Oda giving Loki the ability to get smaller so he can fool the L4N people into believing that there's a chance... he's not slick

[brittle basin]

Ragnir LA

[pulsar path]

Ragnir as big as oz here

[frigid gulch]

That belly is weighing him down

[leaden sapphire]

that was before awakening though

[dapper tree]

And sanji will again. But if you had to choose a reason thst makes the most sense, Imu is on a severe timer snd they gotta do their job over anything

[brittle basin]

I still don't know what L4N means

[leaden sapphire]

but hes definetly much weaker

[pulsar path]

How did he even awaken shit

[prisma yacht]

time to read the chapter guys

[pulsar path]

Like he got nerfed to be buffed

[dapper tree]

He tried hard

[frigid gulch]

Chopper translation soon

[atomic spindle]

I mean a stab would have taken the same time their little convo did

[frigid gulch]

[pulsar path]

Than kaido is truly an idiot

[urban lodge]

Might be better if we never know what he said

[ashen perch]

it is, but its also part of the wider potrayal throughout the arc. The Worstgen trio were pretty clearly depicted as rivals

[dapper tree]

We been known that

[urban lodge]

Probably some nasty things

[brittle basin]

I wish he would just say squeak, it's much funnier

[knotty root]

Arrogance

[safe cove]

"that's right, bitch!"

[ashen perch]

he nearly kills Doflamingo...

[leaden sapphire]

wow a law hater why i like law

[iron oriole]

"THATS RIGHT BITCH ITS ME, RAGNIR!!! WANNA THROW HANDS OR WHAT?!"

[ashen perch]

and then he got his awakening, after that

[jade rain]

All oda does is draw a simple squirrel and he is now everyone's favourite

[ashen perch]

Loki 4 Nakama

[pulsar path]

He got a hit on doggy with gamma knife

[dapper tree]

Loki 4 SH

[wraith mantle]

that smile, that damn smile...

[pulsar path]

Didn't work at all

[brittle basin]

oooooooh

[pulsar path]

Even tho

[frigid gulch]

Ragna Quint-Arrow

[pulsar path]

People use gamma knife to why Luffy beat dofflmaingo 🙄

[dapper tree]

Stop falling in love with Imu

[prisma yacht]

hes so cocky

[ashen perch]

well it would have if he wasnt able to stich up his organs for some reason

[maiden smelt]

How strong would super Ragnir be

[leaden sapphire]

yea it is the smile of the main villain

[pulsar path]

Because doflmingo is that dude!

[knotty root]

Imu having blood drawn here either means thst he can't regen or he hasn't taken enough damage for him to regen yet

[ashen perch]

people who think Gerd's fingers being stiched together is wild should go back and question Doflamingo

[knotty root]

Im thinking the latter

[clear aurora]

hes having way too much fun

[mighty shell]

talking a lotta crap for someone who was just a head 10 minutes ago

[atomic spindle]

This reminds me Imu was addressing the fruit not Loki

[royal orchid]

25 viewers first stream? crazy hype

[leaden sapphire]

thats his abiltiy why would you not consider that

[ruby cape]

Gerd’s fingers being stitched back is nothing bro it makes sense

[iron oriole]

He's so disrespectful too, he kicked Sanji as he jumped away

[pulsar path]

Yeah that was a crazy oda ass pull dead ass but I get it 🤣

[dapper tree]

He's falling apart

[maiden smelt]

I wish Oda made the omens a halo
It would be cooler

[jade rain]

Will we get imu's official colours only in the next volume cover ?

[prisma yacht]

#odaremembers

[dapper tree]

Likely imu can't regen since he's on a timer

[urban lodge]

Probably the one after the next

[prisma yacht]

massive usopp moment soon

[urban lodge]

Unless we get a color spread before that

[ashen perch]

why would he know how to even do that lol, its just whatever

[pulsar path]

I mean the one thing in the back is how halos are depicted in art and history

[ashen perch]

or a magazine cover

[pulsar path]

A sun behind the head

[prisma yacht]

so long sucker

[fast pagoda]

Or a jump magazine cover

[urban lodge]

Yeah could be

[clear aurora]

ill believe it when i see it

[iron oriole]

It was obvious to happen, people get their fingers reattached all the time irl

[fast pagoda]

My king

[leaden sapphire]

ok yea that is weard

[fast pagoda]

He's so amazing this chapter

[leaden sapphire]

wirrd

weird

[brittle basin]

She's suggesting there have been ups and downs within the WG directly over the last 800 years, right?

[jade rain]

Hopefully no one has tattoos before that this time around

[pulsar path]

I mean dolfamingo lmao Gerd makes since

[ruby cape]

shhhh

[urban lodge]

Lmao true

[iron oriole]

Oh right lmao

[wraith mantle]

yeah this wasnt clear

[dapper tree]

Gross

[brittle basin]

oda could never

[brittle basin]

go vote for jack

[hoary steppe]

Wg once a good organization?!

[prisma yacht]

cant reveal directly

[dapper tree]

Already done

[pulsar path]

I'm telling y'all Imu or the devil fruit was the past Nika

[royal orchid]

if oda was a good writer

[leaden sapphire]

what devil fruit

[ashen perch]

yeah, she's assuming that maybe this guy is a product of a power struggle, which is fairly close to the reality really

[pulsar path]

The devil fruit

[dapper tree]

Imu's

[pulsar path]

Theeee

[iron oriole]

Is this part of the 3 Nika's theory?

[hoary steppe]

Ymean imu?

[leaden sapphire]

wait ur saying imu is nika?

[royal orchid]

imu is luffy

[iron oriole]

Destroyer, Liberator, Joker

[ashen perch]

yeah

[leaden sapphire]

ohh

[ashen perch]

If Oda was bright... he'd recreate this very very very soon

[leaden sapphire]

then yea could be imu is the destroyer

or bb

[pulsar path]

I mean sorta I get ,like I think Nika or sun god is largely a title and isn't an actual god even tho they probably have god like ability than also , like Lucifer was the morning star that fell to earth so at one point ( third world) I think the devil fruit( probably not Imu) was the Nika that faught nidhogs an ratkaskar

[ashen perch]

I think enough time has passed since the last magazine cover, so maybe 1-2 chapters to go

[prisma yacht]

[pulsar path]

Veegtea ass wanna be

[hoary steppe]

This explains why imu was talkin about corruption and obsolete power

[prisma yacht]

shu shu ilma

SUPERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR SOMMERS

[pulsar path]

Suuuuupppereerrr

[royal orchid]

how Sommers feels after glazing himself for getting buffed by daddy mu

[pulsar path]

Franky should fight him tho so it can be a supper week

[hoary steppe]

Why bro glazing the most useless HK 😭, Kilingham still carried elbaf

[pulsar path]

When was the last time Franky told us this week would be super 😭

The fourth wall break

[urban lodge]

The official Holy Knights ranking is now:

1. Gunko
   (Astronomical gap)
2. Sommers
3. Shamrock
4. Killingham

[hoary steppe]

4 kilingham?

[pulsar path]

Maufey?

[urban lodge]

Maffey isn't real

[pulsar path]

What about the demon dude

[hoary steppe]

Insane

[iron oriole]

Penny, how do you feel about the recent comment from Killingham

[hoary steppe]

Kilingham 1.

[pulsar path]

Demon dude has to be second !

[urban lodge]

We gotta cancel him

[civic dust]

😭 we don’t even know his name

[atomic spindle]

Chum chum is first

[urban lodge]

Who

[pulsar path]

Hence his power!!!

The unranked goat

[iron oriole]

Do you believe it or is it propaganda?

[pulsar path]

Unnamed

[iron oriole]

Silly question actually

[urban lodge]

Well Oda would genuinely be the worst author of all time if it was true so no

[pulsar path]

Oda is kind a dick for showing us all them and all we got was maufey being an idiot

[wet condor]

Biblo somehow the burn scar man?

[pulsar path]

And grabbing half a twin

[prisma yacht]

LOOK AT THIS STUPID RODENT BEING MAD GEKGEKGEKGEK

[wet condor]

I'm going with that theory for now. I'm sure that's been a running one

I don't know how, but I've got a feeling

[iron oriole]

I kinda want to say Biblo = Louis Arnot

[wet condor]

Oh could be

[hoary steppe]

Who tf os louis arnold 😭

[wet condor]

Lol

[pulsar path]

"You faulss Nika I hate you go back to the sky where hence you came you trash bag!!! Also give me nut"

[wet condor]

Someone mentioned at the beginning of the arc

[iron oriole]

!speedreader

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/535148418100887562/Lightspeedread.png

[leaden rivet]

First Ragnir hater

[hoary steppe]

BRUH

[pulsar path]

Tekking said we should get the guy from emperor new groove to ask Rat was he was saying

[wet condor]

Mentioned something about how "you shouldn't stay too long on Elbaf"

[ripe moon]

funny that that rodent is stronger than 99% of all living beings

[hoary steppe]

Ohhhh

[leaden rivet]

He pushed Hancock out of the top 10

[wet condor]

It was a title box quote lol

[hoary steppe]

Idk that guy has a name

[royal orchid]

!speedreader2

[tropic nova]

https://tenor.com/view/not-reading-read-reading-his-ass-is-not-reading-ignore-gif-18922326

[pulsar path]

It literally had it at the end

[wraith mantle]

for mother's day, its only fair to vote best mother

[pulsar path]

_

• Louis arnett

[hoary steppe]

Shush

[prisma yacht]

this confirms the squirrel we saw when jarul was talking about god of war isnt the same as this one
mythical piece is still up

[wet condor]

So Gerd didn't permanently lose her fingers

[pulsar path]

Nvm

[hoary steppe]

Anyway

[pulsar path]

Found the zaza

[leaden rivet]

Hajrudin is too much a bum for me to appreciate her

The elders were right

[hoary steppe]

WG once a good organization !!!

[urban lodge]

Vote Bellemere

[pulsar path]

Ida is zaza

[prisma yacht]

[wraith mantle]

a son's failure is no fault of the mother

loki is goated tho

[leaden rivet]

I mean he’s a bum because her genes

So it is all her fault

[wraith mantle]

oh

[prisma yacht]

stand ready for usopp to use this rodent

[ripe moon]

might be easier for Chopper to reconnect nerves and blood vessels for a giant finger

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/true-morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-gifs-coyote-gif-18252538143607713897

[pulsar path]

Loki dies and usopp gets the hammer

[ashen perch]

Oda does love a good villain x Luffy magazine cover, even though he doesnt always do them

[pulsar path]

Oda go home let me write

[ashen perch]

sorrrrrrry for the wall

[rose rune]

you're not really sorry

[ashen perch]

just wanted to post that, because I hope we get a Imu x Luffy magazine cover

[prisma yacht]

he wanted this

[royal orchid]

lucci has one eye on Luffy and one eye on Robin

[leaden rivet]

This one’s sick

[ashen perch]

well I am pretty sorry, but not as sorry as the extra rs indicate

[pulsar path]

Man I hate modern onepeice art soooooo much!!!! These fall off right after the Lucci Luffy one

I'm not being 1000 serious

[prisma yacht]

when are we going to get another volume cover

?

[pulsar path]

But I do like old art alot more

[rose rune]

that's a lot of arse

[ashen perch]

thats gotta be bait was my thought

[rose rune]

as in r's

[ashen perch]

I prefer Oda's modern art, his colored illustrations have only gotten better really

[pulsar path]

Indo really enjoy early onepeice art over the time skip redesigns tho 😔

[prisma yacht]

bro they didnt use the aztec name

[ashen perch]

I didnt ofc include the volume covers in that list, theres some really sick ones there too

[pulsar path]

I feel like the simplicity of early stuff gives a sense of comfort while newer stuff is good it just feels more designed and less sinple

[ashen perch]

Luffy and Kata only got a volume cover together, but it was unreal

I am sure Imu will be on a volume cover too but those magazine covers were all before the volume covers

so there's hope for his color scheme being revealed, potentially super soon

[dense rapids]

@grand flower

Earth God Yonka = Yonah

Davy Jones

[brittle basin]

I missed a day.

[hoary steppe]

Earth god is imu

[dense rapids]

Imu is forest god

He didn’t make the earth sing

He made the wood sing

[warm falcon]

🔥

[heady smelt]

Oda likes to put characters on a cover just to reveal their color scheme, I'm sure he'll do it for Imu as well

[dense rapids]

Zaza made the rain sing and Nika makes everything sing

[hoary steppe]

Bruh wut 😭

[dense rapids]

?

[ashen perch]

yeah but I want that to happen soon smh

[hoary steppe]

The house sing does that counts

[dense rapids]

Yea wood

He turned the houses and trees into ma

[hoary steppe]

Thats abit weird

[dense rapids]

Yea that’s why I said forest god since each god seems to interact with that element in a way

[heady smelt]

I suppose it will be when the current chapters make it to a volume 🤔 sooo maybe later this year in Japan? I don't remember where they are currently in terms of volumes

[brittle basin]

If you noticed when Imu first arrived to the surface, the only things that sang his entrance song were the trees and giant houses. Only wood.

[atomic spindle]

The one piece is a song that makes the four gods sing in coherence to produce an effect of some sort

[dense rapids]

Nika is yet to be seen

[dense rapids]

A symphony with 4 gods performed in One Piece

[dense rapids]

They will meet again

[hoary steppe]

Yea yea i noticed that

[ashen perch]

Imu wont be revealed in the upcoming volume, Volume 115 so we're gonna have to wait for the end of the year volume if Oda doesnt draw Imu in a magazine cover before

[rose rune]

so shiryu is the rain god, imu the earth god, luffy the sun god, and vasco the glug god

[heady smelt]

"Effect of some sort" 💡 : Sun, needed to make plants grow, water/rain necessary as well, earth well necessary for the plant to grow and...well forest I suppose to "protect" the plants, I'm sure we can identity this effect in the OP world very precisely if we try

[distant vine]

Him being there to hear all this is more interesting now yeah

[heady smelt]

Ohhhhh you're right, like he did for Xebec on a WSJ cover, good point

[distant vine]

Just remember people laughed at me when I mentioned Law vs Imu

REMEMBER THAT

[brittle basin]

law vs imu lol

[urban lodge]

Fire, earth and air clans when

[hoary steppe]

Tomorrow

[wraith mantle]

which god is akainu

[atomic spindle]

The desk

[hasty sable]

Bellamy is the Spring God

[heady smelt]

Will Luffy end up unlocking sun-like abilities or is it just a metaphor in his case?

[ashen perch]

yeaa, would be cool

[brittle basin]

metaphor until proven otherwise

[ornate tartan]

14 days till the next chapter

[hasty sable]

He will get fire related stuff when he evolves and gets the cloud ring thing methinks

[wraith mantle]

fire power MC 💔

basic ahh mc

[hasty sable]

Rubber is freedom because uh uh uhhhh

[ornate tartan]

sun is symbolic for luffy

[prisma yacht]

nnice

great chapter

[trim lily]

rubber is freedom because tyranny is glue

[hasty sable]

Sun powers for Luffy will happen mark my words

[heady smelt]

I agree, in this case why are we taking the other gods attributes so literally? Maybe it's also metaphorical, except for people like Killingham who imagine the rain god(dess) in a very personified way

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-think-think-of-it-gif-12729650

[prisma yacht]

sad they didnt use the aztec name for imus attack

[leaden rivet]

It can mold itself into anything

[trim lily]

that’s a very valid way of interpreting it

[ashen perch]

Personally, I think a lot of characters are gonna have their turn on Imu (whether that be as individuals or as teams), I always thought Law would get his team moment atleast

[distant vine]

"Okay man, just cause Law's the main character the D. clan is consistently brought up about, and just cause it was his flashback where D. was referred to as the enemy of the CD's, and just cause he has another taboo tribe that just so happens to be CD's main fear, doesnt mean that he'll engage in combat against the head of the CD's."

[mighty shell]

pause man

[ashen perch]

He has fire related stuff already?

[distant vine]

Yeah

[ashen perch]

IN A FIGHT

[wraith mantle]

yall think zoro and sanji will beat super sommer and killingham?

[brittle basin]

I just find Law boring

and Kidd

[heady smelt]

I've had this question on my mind for years, I'm still unsure what to think of those gods and what they are really supposed to accomplish in the OP world

[leaden rivet]

Imu is probably celibate

[ornate tartan]

nope

[leaden rivet]

He only wants one woman and that’s Vivi

[fervent fable]

Ragnir or chopper

[dense rapids]

Fraudhat Pirates

[ashen perch]

youre not seeing the visions that need to be seen if you think Luffy's true awakening is just going to be more Red Hawks and Red Rocs

[distant vine]

Idk how to cure that

[wraith mantle]

!mural

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/164971940648321024/1497454280242757662/image.png?ex=69ed9479&is=69ec42f9&hm=7abc1f47d89258c9ce1521f78dfa107baae4b9b0cf28020cf0c31d36fb65fd40&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1976&height=1443

[ashen perch]

you know what its actually going to be?

toon force, lots of it, without a limit to it

[distant vine]

Yea

[brittle basin]

bro, what the hell is this dialogue. did road have a stroke?

[trim lily]

it can go either way really, either it turns out the one piece world really did have all these fantastical gods and whatnot, or they’re just people’s beliefs and dreams put to a visual idea and myth

[ashen perch]

the bat is only the entrace to Nika's fantasy world as Oda said

[urban lodge]

Can Imu kill Road already

[trim lily]

please

[distant vine]

Gonna be incredibly funny when Luffy takes over the fight from Loki and a bunch of the readerbase becomes sad

[wraith mantle]

chopper will heal him

[frigid gulch]

Roademption

[knotty root]

The road to redemption as they say it

[trim lily]

road’s only road to redemption is sacrificing himself

[urban lodge]

"His head was cut off so cleanly we can just reattach it"

[frigid gulch]

Jarul somehow survived

[ashen perch]

We're going to see Luffy pull off things that dont even make sense with it, the final Luffy v Imu fight is going to be worldbreaking stuff

[brittle basin]

btw if this ends up being a thing, i'm gonna barf

[rich hornet]

Imu couldnt beat the Sun god

[ashen perch]

a win for SaNa if you think about it

[leaden rivet]

Imu should just wipe out everyone except Gunko and Luffy honestly

[brittle basin]

what is that.....

[fast pagoda]

Need sommers to whip zoros ass

[leaden rivet]

I’m tired of everyone here

[distant vine]

True, Sanji is a Road parallel

[ashen perch]

(that means Sanji x Nami)

[trim lily]

that’s chaotic evil

[brittle basin]

it better not be weird

[heady smelt]

In Toki's prophecy, I think she compared Orochi and Kaido's reign to the night before dawn, stating that the sun will arise. It eventually happened, and what was it exactly ? Luffy liberating the whole country, bringing "sun" to the people finally after decades of "darkness.
Idk, I'm really really wondering why is he the SUN god, what is this sun supposed to represent if it's not to be taken literally lol

[leaden rivet]

Well he’ll kill Gunko anyway so maybe just Luffy

[frigid gulch]

It’s ova for him

[urban lodge]

Disgusting

[fast pagoda]

I'm sorry I'm getting a bit tired of loki now

[distant vine]

Funny nickname Illya

[leaden rivet]

If chopper has no haters im dead

[wraith mantle]

would be really funny if gunko just fucking died in this arc

[brittle basin]

I don't know who Sanji will end up with EOS if anyone at all. could be pudding if Oda wanted to retread that water

[frigid gulch]

Rocks takes the 10 spot from Chopper

[ashen perch]

ideally, Zoro

[frigid gulch]

Soon

[urban lodge]

Relax

She'll be fine...

[tough dust]

not sure why is this an issue

[leaden rivet]

Penny you know this to be true

[urban lodge]

No

[leaden rivet]

Gunko was never making it out this arc

[fast pagoda]

I know Socrates is crying tears of joy right now

[urban lodge]

Stop...

[frigid gulch]

Imu tried to free her but the blast was too strong

[fast pagoda]

Silly take

[frigid gulch]

[urban lodge]

She's not Harald 2.0, she's an inversion

She will live

[trim lily]

i think it’s as simple as representing the dawn on a world that’s gone dark cause of imu or whatnot, freedom from the darkness

[fast pagoda]

Gunko is for the final war

[wraith mantle]

before gunko dies, she will drop a vague hint on how to defeat imu to brook

[ashen perch]

Gunko is probably dying ngl

[leaden rivet]

As long as rockstar exists that won’t happen

[heady smelt]

Good lesson, I hope people never try to blast an ice cube just because they want to melt it irl 😂

[mighty shell]

what do you mean? this is how all incels will be treated by women when they walk out of their house

[fast pagoda]

Imu will take gunko back to the holy land

[brittle basin]

Can Franky study these bullets?

[leaden rivet]

The secret do defeating Imu is….love

[heady smelt]

I agree!! In this case we should seriously think of what "rain", and the other elements mean in regards to that, that would be an interesting debate/brainstorming exercise imo 🤔

[wraith mantle]

friendship*

imu is a loner, he is allergic to friendship

[hazy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/sonion-gif-4370030053602687111

[hazy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/gabagool-shon-son-im-crine-james-gandolfini-sopranos-gif-5632752440652965130

Okay okay sorry

But seriously road disgusts me

[trim lily]

🦬

[fast pagoda]

I dont get why everyone thinks gunko will die here its silly

[warm falcon]

if someone wanna the original text in japanese, i compiled:
[text 1 - Harley]
地に炎あり 人は欲望に負け 禁断の太陽に触れた 愚人は願い “太陽の神”は現れた 地の神は怒り 業炎の蛇と共に 世界を死と闇で包んだ 彼らはもう会えないのだ

[leaden rivet]

All of Imu’s friends are coming back now

[frigid gulch]

She’s already dead I fear

[heady smelt]

Easiest way for Vivi to save the world then...come on just go out with the guy, eat some ice cream with him and it's done 😌

[hazy turret]

Need this arc to end with a panel dedicated to his grave

[warm falcon]

Harley 1

[fast pagoda]

Her character isnt just for this arc it's obviously for the whole final saga

[leaden rivet]

Because you don’t understand something does not make it silly

[distant vine]

I wonder if Super Shamrock can fight Loki...

[brittle basin]

Is he suggesting all CDs are afraid of rain? Have they seriously not exerienced it before? Or are they just afraid of Zaza 'cause it's a god of rain?

[leaden rivet]

Vivi and Imu are getting married

[fast pagoda]

I understand it and I think its silly

[tough dust]

people are actually taking killingham words as confirmations for her death lol?

[heady smelt]

Romance Dawn!!!

[trim lily]

it’s a fear of the CDs like the D is

[distant vine]

How old is she estimated to be now?

[leaden rivet]

You literally just said you don’t get it

[wraith mantle]

chat

do you like god piece?

[brittle basin]

how afraid are they?

[fast pagoda]

He literally said the panel before they never experienced it before so hes afraid of it

[distant vine]

I mean the life range is supposed to be 150 in this verse so it doesnt matter

[wraith mantle]

i kinda like god piece

i am a sucker for grand lore

[distant vine]

Nvm, she's not gonna die

[fast pagoda]

It's just an expression

[trim lily]

they apparently never have rain so the concept scares them

[leaden rivet]

Sorry English isn’t my first

[mighty shell]

the D stands for divorce it is the name nefertari D lili took in the court filings

[warm falcon]

interesting that Hellfire also means Karma

[leaden rivet]

But I still don’t know what you mean

But okay

[warm falcon]

Serpent of Karma

[brittle basin]

is there seriously no panel of CDs under rain before?

i guess not?

[wraith mantle]

Goda

[trim lily]

well on the red line

[fast pagoda]

I just think this obsession with gunko dying this arc is silly and makes no sense

[trim lily]

not on the surface world

[distant vine]

Narratively why would Gunko die anyways. Im not totally opposed but I dont see why Oda would go out of his way to kill her off

[trim lily]

the idea of it raining on mariejois specifically

[mighty shell]

i hope gunko survives she's by far the most interesting celestial dragon right now

[warm falcon]

my life is a lie

[urban lodge]

Fantastic message Oda-sensei, kill off the character who got her entire life and identity stolen by Satan

[leaden rivet]

Huh

[coral vapor]

same but I do think a lot depends on how they're used we still have a whole lot to learn about them specifically

[warm falcon]

i always thought so

[wraith mantle]

shamrock and shanks are crying in a corner

[mighty shell]

i said what i said

[brittle basin]

So, if back on Sabaody, it started to rain, Charlos would flip the fuck out and cower underneath something?

[leaden rivet]

Thought what?

[fast pagoda]

It makes more sense for Gunko to go back to Mary Geoise and be freed in the final war

[warm falcon]

to me, everyone here is anglophone

[trim lily]

nah they expect it for the surface world

[prisma yacht]

interested to see more from biblu

[distant vine]

Kuma had several years of happiness and even he wasnt killed off. So to say Gunko is guaranteed to die takes some guts

[heady smelt]

I'm sure she's alive, there's no way the Brook/Gunko lore stops here, she'll probably be back at some point and maybe help defeat Imu if somehow her link with Imu is broken

[trim lily]

but the point of mariejois is it’s removed from all that stuff, they’re above it all

[leaden rivet]

Is that the signature American arrogance

[wraith mantle]

small price to pay for killing so many slaves in GV

[distant vine]

Well yeah ofc Gunko is alive rn. Nothing harmed her

[brittle basin]

it really feels like he's talking about rain in general honestly

[warm falcon]

im not from USA tho

[urban lodge]

You've got to be trolling at this point

[trim lily]

i think that’d be silly but it’s possible

it’s not like the CDs fear water

[leaden rivet]

So I suppose I’m the one with the American arrogance

[brittle basin]

yeah i also think it's silly. it feels like it's worded in such a way where I can kind of see both interpretations being valid.

[frigid gulch]

He thinks we can’t see him

[leaden rivet]

She’s dying

It’ll be a tragedy

[trim lily]

i’m still on the side of this zaza being mostly a celestial dragon invention

[fast pagoda]

I genuinely think Loki dying this arc is more likely than Gunko lol

[trim lily]

though they probably had their own rain gods on the surface world they’d pray to

[leaden rivet]

I mean there’s like a confirmed 0% chance Loki dies this arc

[fast pagoda]

I think she's a god from alabasta

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/i/status/2053289441024700679

riz 🐊🇺🇦 (@riz4rizz)

first dragon aka rain god concept attempt i defo will do more #onepiece

X · May 10, 2026, 1:42 AM

[leaden rivet]

Loki has explicit final war protections

[warm falcon]

dejavu, i have already seen a person disguising as a big owl in another famous manga

[leaden rivet]

Gunko has no such thing

[urban lodge]

This mfer Oda can't kill off Kin'emon but she's gotta die?

[wraith mantle]

i don't think she is 100% mind controlled

I think she is just conditioned to being a CD (just like all other CDs), with a bit of memory suppression.

She only tried to help brook because she knows him, we don't know if, post getting her memories back, she would have stopped being a CD. I think this is a much better way to go about her character than just be "oh my god she is just a kawaii princess that was 100% mind controlled by evil demon" anyways

[trim lily]

if ulti didn’t die then no way gunko is

[leaden rivet]

Well Oda killed Ace but not Kinemon so uh

[brittle basin]

huge translation difference

[distant vine]

You seriously think Oda's gonna make Brook friends with an intentional enslaver?

[warm falcon]

what is the last waifu Oda killed?

[leaden rivet]

Are we allowed to post tcb panels

[distant vine]

This is the guy who wrote the Rocks flashback lol. "Shuri" will be squeaky clean morally

[brittle basin]

how many hot chicks has oda killed not counting mothers in the flashbacks?

does oda have that dog in him?

[distant vine]

Monet?

[brittle basin]

goda

[wraith mantle]

she will probably go through a redemption arc, but Idk if I can just forgive her 100% for her crimes as a CD/HK

[brittle basin]

never mind

[fast pagoda]

I'm convinced the ohara books are sentient or something

[leaden rivet]

Saving this for when Gunko is revealed to be 16

[urban lodge]

Did you forget the whole Harald thing? Imu can quite literally make your thoughts evil. I don't see anyone calling Harald evil for slaughtering 100 guards

[fast pagoda]

They have survived so many assassination attempts lol

[brittle basin]

ok so oda does kill hot chicks in the present. your days are numbered, gunko

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-clapping-amazed-gif-5030569

[fast pagoda]

Again where does this obsession even come from

[warm falcon]

if he didnt kill a literal chick, imagine

[wraith mantle]

hmm good point let me think about it

[urban lodge]

And Idk what's so hard to understand about this but the mind control doesn't have to be constant for it to still be Imu's responsibility, he put her in that state to begin with

[warm falcon]

she 100% is 16 biologically

[distant vine]

Oda will make sure you dont have to. It just wont be in her control at all

[fast pagoda]

Imu would rather mind control her again then kill her

[brittle basin]

I'm convinced Gunko is brainwashed via mind control. I don't necessarily count her actions as her own.

it is not a constant mind control where every action is pre-determined by Imu

[fast pagoda]

Well you can count shuri and gunko as seperate identities

[brittle basin]

BUT

[wraith mantle]

so she lived her entire life not in control?

[warm falcon]

hard to be used to call her Shuri

[rich hornet]

Gunko isnt even a real person. It’s a personality put on top of Shuri

[urban lodge]

Since her father died

[brittle basin]

Gunko is brainwashed enough to where I don't believe her killing people is what the real her inside would want to do.

Brook kind of confirmed that by being angry at Gunko, suggesting Imu probably controlled her early and made her do bad things against her will

[leaden rivet]

Does this mean Gunko fans don’t really exist

[distant vine]

Her childhood was her own but once Imu nabbed her yeah it was basically another person doing all that

[warm falcon]

hot 🐤 oda killed

1. Monet

end of list

[mighty shell]

i honestly hope it was less brainwash and more manipulation. imu saw someone susceptible in a traumatic situation and took advantage of it to promise her something better

[fast pagoda]

Gunko is still a part of shuri but shes a different personality

Her real personality still seeps through

[distant vine]

That would be morally grey therefore illegal to explore in One Piece

[fast pagoda]

The mind control doesnt make her a complete bot or anything

[warm falcon]

2. Lucian, well she is "dead" as person

[brittle basin]

for me, brainwash and manipulation are synonymous in Gunko's situation even if maybe the words are not precisely 1:1

[fast pagoda]

Its the same thing we saw with harald

[warm falcon]

or Russian

[leaden rivet]

Well Oden is as morally grey as it gets tbf

[fast pagoda]

Oden isnt morally grey hes just an idiot

[distant vine]

Not really. Not the way Im saying it

[wraith mantle]

the harald situation is weird tho and is a good point for gunko fans

[urban lodge]

We know for a fact there is some memory manipulation going on

[brittle basin]

The personality buried inside Gunko is not responsible for anything Gunko is doing in the present. If her original personality comes back, she should not be held accountable

[wraith mantle]

imu has the abillity to straight up tell you what to do

and force you to do it

[mighty shell]

my bad

[leaden rivet]

Well Oden was kinda a rapist but he did a lot of good things and helped a lot of people

Man that sentence sounds horrible

[lofty fern]

No grey huh?

[heady smelt]

??

[wraith mantle]

i dont want it to be different personalities

[lofty fern]

Seriously?

[urban lodge]

I'm pretty sure that was just the husbands' point of view

[leaden rivet]

Seriously what?

[wraith mantle]

i want Shuri to just have evolved to this Gunko persona

[sturdy steeple]

They fell for him lol

[brittle basin]

It feels that way, since Imu had to assume direct control the moment Gunko's memories came back.

[rich hornet]

It already is. We saw it in black and white

[leaden rivet]

Oh about Oden

[distant vine]

When Im saying morally gray I mean like theyre malicious to some and a hero to others

[wraith mantle]

through trauma

[brittle basin]

Shuri can't have evolved to Gunko, because it happened against her will

[fast pagoda]

I'm sorry but if you think gunko dies this arc I think thats a dumb theory

[leaden rivet]

Well that was kinda Oden indi

[lofty fern]

Some people take the joke to far

[leaden rivet]

He was abducting women from their families

[fast pagoda]

It's like what happened to harald

[leaden rivet]

He kidnapped them

[brittle basin]

Gunko might die, but who knows. We need her backstory with brook. she might even join the crew, you just never know.

[leaden rivet]

And kept them with him.

[ornate tartan]

gunko is alive

[wraith mantle]

FUCK NO, bonney has prio

[leaden rivet]

The freedom to leave isn’t true freedom

[prisma yacht]

If gunko dies in this arc

[brittle basin]

you might get both AND Loki. EVERYONE is a nakama

[prisma yacht]

This arc isn't ending anytime soon

[distant vine]

Crew's full

[brittle basin]

!sorry

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/660200350749425688/1007704105340391494/unknown.png

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-celebrating-gif-6529507804860980052

[knotty root]

Atp let imu join the crew

[leaden rivet]

If you’re referring to me then no I’m not joking

[knotty root]

He's just misunderstood that's all

[brittle basin]

oh wait zaza has more than two arms, I just now noticed

[jade rain]

We got zoro and sanji defeated and moved on to the next battle but still Luffy is eating

[brittle basin]

I think it's funny that the kids were rescued only to be captured again five minutes later

[fast pagoda]

Bonney isnt joining anymore sorry

[lofty fern]

I think Gunko joined Imu of her free will. I will be interested in the conflict and gray areas

[jade rain]

Oda should find better ways to keep Luffy out, this doesn't feel good

[fast pagoda]

I wanted her to but its clear its not the intent

[brittle basin]

That would be a sick twist

[scenic dirge]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/2053490342544970063?s=46

Pew (@pewpiece)

Queen

X · May 10, 2026, 3:00 PM

[fast pagoda]

Bonney will be under the care of vegapunk now

[rich hornet]

Anymore? Never had a shot

[scenic dirge]

She’s so ugly man…

[fast pagoda]

and vegapunk will join the revs

[scenic dirge]

I can’t

[leaden rivet]

Evan

[prisma yacht]

[leaden rivet]

Are we allowed to post tcb panels

[fast pagoda]

I thought she would for a good part of egghead tbh

[thin quest]

Robin is bae

[scenic dirge]

No

[urban lodge]

As a blade of god it was probably "voluntary", although even then there might have been some coercion

[leaden sapphire]

yea imu was offering memory loss, gunko said good deal

[brittle basin]

i bet tcb panels do get posted and no one's the wiser

[lofty fern]

I want them to take at least Collun

[leaden rivet]

Ah

[scenic dirge]

I bet you’re old and everyone’s the wiser coz you’re old and frail and senile and old

[lofty fern]

They notice 🚔

[leaden rivet]

Buffy has doomed this server to termination

[wraith mantle]

someone snitching

[brittle basin]

tell your mom to return my phone calls.

[scenic dirge]

It’s Mother’s Day

She’s busy

Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms of the server

[leaden rivet]

Thanks

[wraith mantle]

rain in the mural

[urban lodge]

Rain god Laboon

[warm sierra]

Zazaboon

[ashen perch]

Pluton is a whale, powered by the rain god Zaza

[warm sierra]

Would be a good Crocodile angle

Complete irony

[scenic dirge]

Happy Mother’s Day Arsal

[ashen perch]

um thanks...?

[brittle basin]

Is Zaza Pluton's Mother Flame?

[lofty fern]

I like how in viz they say the fear of Nika and Ds are stronger than their fear of Zaza

[ashen perch]

yeah

[leaden rivet]

Arsal you’re a mother?

[ashen perch]

you guys should read this https://x.com/merlinidc/status/1797294568234172473

Merlin D. Wizard 🐸🔮 (@merlinidc)

#ONEPIECE Theory 🐋🌀🚢:

“Pluton, the Godwhale”

The Secret of the Whales!

X · Jun 2, 2024, 3:49 PM

[leaden rivet]

You’re a woman?

[ashen perch]

I am neither

I mean neither a mother or a woman

[brittle basin]

wait what the fuck is this?!

[leaden rivet]

So what’re you then?

[brittle basin]

is that a real book?

[leaden rivet]

A man and a father?

[scenic dirge]

What's Poseidon's mother flame then

[frozen ravine]

they're ai, you're talking to grok

[ashen perch]

to be clear, thats not a real book

[rich hornet]

Where the Mother’s Day Tritoma art

[scenic dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-neptune-neptune-one-piece-merman-fishman-gif-9189656167461187057

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-boo-this-man-mad-angry-gif-16849857

[leaden rivet]

Oh looks like it’s that time again

[ashen perch]

this is the real book

[brittle basin]

ah ok good enough

[scenic dirge]

If Pluton is the shape of a whale I'll kneel to Goda

[pulsar path]

Okay okay

[scenic dirge]

that'd be really cool actually

[rich hornet]

It makes sense with the whale thing on zou

[scenic dirge]

yah

[lofty fern]

An AI book?

[prisma yacht]

She was a cyborg

[ashen perch]

no I mean the Pluton the Godwhale, thats just an edited title for the theory

the real name is just The Godwhale

the dialogue here

''the most dangerous beast''
''can humans really build this thing''

its clearly nothing like a conventional ship

[rustic coral]

Thats pluton

[ashen perch]

well read the thread, theres a lot to it

[fast pagoda]

I love that idea

[ashen perch]

it is yeah

[ashen perch]

Robin by Boichi

[pulsar path]

Today's epsidoe Pacing is still ass but specific moments are better than the manga in my opinion , I think Loki and Luffy talking and him insulting shanks is better than the manga but some parts are just paced sooo bad they made usopp take the captain role here that was cool! the giant pirates singing was great. Idk if this was just me but Sanji and chopper eyecatch made me feel like they alluded to chopper being the soup.

[warm falcon]

has someone mentioned that the colour Blue of the Nefertari women is related to Water or anything? 💧

[ashen perch]

yeah

[prisma yacht]

I need an illegal website to watch the ep

[ashen perch]

her hair is literally water blue color lol

[fast pagoda]

Lmao

[rose rune]

honestly the toei version doesn't feel that far off

[fast pagoda]

Soupper

[urban lodge]

Reminds me of the Mailbox Luffy edit

[pulsar path]

Dead ass!

[warm falcon]

i mean, we are so used that these minor things run for us xd

[pulsar path]

Okay what if Vivi is the rain god but dragon has the hito hito no mi model Lili /zaza

[warm falcon]

reveal yourself, franky's altie

[rustic coral]

https://x.com/PookiePiece/status/2053003401215029417

Pookie (@PookiePiece)

Elbaph is already the 7th longest arc, but it doesn’t feel that long because it’s been so good.

X · May 9, 2026, 6:45 AM

[rich hornet]

Too redundant

[twin thicket]

smoker found smoking on that zaza pack

[pulsar path]

I mean is it not going to be redundant Vivi and dragon having the same effect any ways

Dragon already brings rain

[rustic coral]

Can we publically shame anyone for separating W7-EL-Return to W7

[rose rune]

I read it in the melody of waterloo

[trim lily]

yes

[warm falcon]

yeah, maybe one is wind, another is jsut rain

[fast pagoda]

Dragon fans need to chill tf out

[pulsar path]

Agreed.

[ashen perch]

will be longer than Dressrosa

[scenic dirge]

Almost like post timeskip arcs tend to be longer because the scope is bigger and people weren't reading back in Alabasta to be able to tell the difference

[prisma yacht]

10 more chapters....

[rich hornet]

Dragon brings the storm. Rain is a byproduct for him

[ashen perch]

y'all arent ready...

[prisma yacht]

for chapter 1192

[trim lily]

i’m so ready for elbaf to end in 3 chapters

[pulsar path]

You could say the same opposite wise

[ashen perch]

and he brought rain once

[pulsar path]

Twice

[ashen perch]

EVERY other instance has been wind lol

[pulsar path]

Goya

[ashen perch]

he brought wind there

[fast pagoda]

That doesnt really make sense

[rustic coral]

He is the rain god

[pulsar path]

Didn't it rain to get rid of the fire

[ashen perch]

he used wind to carve open a path for Gray Terminal's residents to escape the fire

no

[rose rune]

honestly I hope you're wrong

[rich hornet]

Wind is his primary focus regardless. Who’s to say wind is even something Zaza would have

[pulsar path]

We have four sun gods and your telling em it doesn't make sense

[fast pagoda]

Vivi will get the zaza fruit

[ashen perch]

if he had, he would have used it to save them

he didnt

[fast pagoda]

Dragon has a storm/wind logia

[pulsar path]

No she already is it

[ashen perch]

he wind blasted through the trash

[pulsar path]

She already summoned the rain

[urban lodge]

At least make it storm logia, just wind is really boring

[trim lily]

wait shiryu is the rain god

[pulsar path]

Well that' dumb that just caused more fires

[trim lily]

i can’t believe i was so blind

[ashen perch]

it didnt

it was a massive wind blast

[pulsar path]

I'm saying oda l

That's not how fire and wind work

[warm falcon]

never 've understand the relation

[ashen perch]

well if its overwhelmingly big

[twin thicket]

now that embeds are back what do you make of this page in ch 105 where vivi is seen swimming in the ocean? @ashen perch

[ashen perch]

I imagine it wouldnt matter

[trim lily]

shiryu loved standing and looking up in the rain

[twin thicket]

oops wrong page one sec xD

[ashen perch]

I dont think she's a DF user, just born this way like Shirahoshi is born with Poseidon and Momo is born with the ability to control Zunesha

[prisma yacht]

Yeah if it's vivi then it's not a df

[pulsar path]

But

[ashen perch]

yeah, it just wouldnt be a DF, it doesnt have to be at all

[pulsar path]

Didn't dragon also have the zaza sound effect

[fast pagoda]

So do you think the rain god is also uranus?

[ashen perch]

I think its the key to Pluton

[pulsar path]

Than

[ashen perch]

ONCE

[prisma yacht]

Well there's the Nika df....

[pulsar path]

Was it used for Vivi!!!!

[ashen perch]

Dragon's been associated with rain literally only one singular time

[trim lily]

one is all you need

[pulsar path]

Same with Vivi tho

[ashen perch]

thats not the point

[pulsar path]

It's even match!

[ashen perch]

the point is that he's associated with wind every other time

[pulsar path]

It's a 50 50 I admit that!

[ashen perch]

literally every single other time

there's like 15 references to wind with Dragon

[pulsar path]

Ehhhh no we need dragon to bring. The rain too holy land!

Also

[trim lily]

it’d fit for dragon to have the fruit of the being the cds fear

but that’s also very on the nose lol

[pulsar path]

Shouldn't dance powder be like the ultimate weapon against the holy land lmao

[twin thicket]

why are some god powers devil fruits while others are hereditary? curse you oda!

!hack

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/714832586677026816/hacker.png

[pulsar path]

Like why ant they just shooting dance powder at the CDs lmao

[ashen perch]

his ship wind granma, his line to Kuma about the winds of fate, the wind blast against the marines, the wind blast that saved Gray Terminal's residents, the wind blowing around him during many of his appearances

[pulsar path]

Okay how did he direct lightning

[ashen perch]

oh the wind that was used to save Sabo

[rich hornet]

I’m honestly not sure he did do that

[ashen perch]

^^

[rustic coral]

The Rain God can be just the Storm God in general

[pulsar path]

He totally did

[prisma yacht]

Weather lugia can do that tho

[warm falcon]

Harley 2: 虚無に息吹あり 森の神は魔を遣わせた 太陽は戦火を 広げるばかりだ 半月の人は夢を見た 月の人は夢を見た 人は太陽を殺し神となり 海の神は荒ぶった 彼らはもう会えないのだ

[lofty fern]

It's more like a childhood fear than a real weakness lol

[trim lily]

because buggy held up a piece of metal in a thunderstorm

[ashen perch]

but even if he did, isnt it the case with wind powers that they come with some level of weather manipulation too??

[pulsar path]

Psychological warfare!

[rustic coral]

What am i looking at

[warm falcon]

its interesting that 荒ぶった can mean: lose control
and the Sea god 'raged'

[ashen perch]

I am pretty sure thats how it sort of works in fiction

[trim lily]

no

[pulsar path]

Yeah idk

[warm falcon]

so an emotional stress could disrupt the poseidon power

[trim lily]

when i think of wind i think of wind and air

[pulsar path]

It felt like an alussion ro dragon

Like

[rustic coral]

Didnt we know that from FMI

[warm falcon]

the 2nd text in Harley

[lofty fern]

Well, considering they fear Nika and D even more, Dragon is already good

[pulsar path]

Homie isn't going to stop his son form getting beheaded but will stop smoker form catching him

[prisma yacht]

Whimpyhoshi

[pulsar path]

Nope sorry

[ashen perch]

I looked it up and I am just right smh

[warm falcon]

yeah, but the japanese text in Harley is full of ambivalent words

[trim lily]

wow

[ashen perch]

Marvel's Storm manipulates weather through wind

[pulsar path]

Storm is like

Idk she has more than that too tho

[trim lily]

her ability is to control the weather

[ashen perch]

yeah but still, wind can be used to create rain and storms

[trim lily]

not control the weather through wind

[pulsar path]

But her powers evolved so it's hard to say

[warm falcon]

Storm was a gyaru before gyarus existed xD

[twin thicket]

I wonder if chopper could talk with ragnir

[pulsar path]

But I get you wind can bring a cloud in

[ashen perch]

yeah, but its via the wind manipulation

[pulsar path]

But I feel like that's a lot of like hoops to jump

[trim lily]

c’mon arsal

[ashen perch]

Dragon can manipulate the weather through wind, the one thing thats been associated with him 19/20 times

[pulsar path]

My biggest concern is idk why Imu would make a story about someone he wants to live up there with them

[lofty fern]

She can do way more than that? She can control weather period

[rich hornet]

To play devils advocate, is there anything we’ve seen Vivi do that shows she 100% doesn’t have a fruit?

[pulsar path]

It just weird to me

[ashen perch]

swim

[pulsar path]

Hate the rain god but we want to bring her to holy land

[dapper tree]

Swim

[rich hornet]

I thought she might have but I don’t remember anything before Dressrosa

[dapper tree]

Plus Vivi is killing Kuma and getting his fruit cause of the anime opening

[trim lily]

shes fated to

[muted hedge]

so what's going on with Gunko, is she really dead?

[pulsar path]

Unless some how she unknowingly ate a fruit

[trim lily]

no

[rich hornet]

no

[pulsar path]

Also why is Gunko not afraid of zaza

[dapper tree]

No, but no one cares to really check

[ashen perch]

the fears of the CDs dont have to be accurate anyways, but even if they were, the best way to deal with a fear is to kill or capture the one who can make them come true

[fast pagoda]

If there is a rain god zaza fruit and lili had it before, Imu likely still has it in the present day since lili disappeared in mary geoise

[pulsar path]

Her biggest fear is Nika

[lofty fern]

Wind is a result of weather change, not the cause

[fast pagoda]

If imu kidnaps vivi she can get it there

[pulsar path]

It's not even the CDs it's the holy knights

If it was just the CDs sure

[ashen perch]

its the CDs lol

[pulsar path]

But killinghamn and sommers

[ashen perch]

the HKs are CDs...

[twin thicket]

I suppose vivi could have ate a fruit unknowingly, after the swimming panel supposing zaza is a fruit

[pulsar path]

Yes but

[muted hedge]

i think Imu desires Vivi due to Vivi being the reincarnation of Zaza current day

[pulsar path]

They know about Imu

They aren't regular CDs

Holy knights and CDs are not the same thing

There on a higher level

[ashen perch]

well true, but like I said, even if they do really fear Zaza, the best solution is to kill or capture her

[pulsar path]

Meaning they know more than the average joe like why would they fear something that probably has been explained to them at some point I would think

They know Nika

[ashen perch]

not leave her free lol

[pulsar path]

Wouldn't killing her just make it so another one would come

[hasty sable]

Killingham really summoner Zaza by accident

[muted hedge]

that's the thing, another one would come

[pulsar path]

And if it ain't a devil fruit power no way to contain it

[ashen perch]

well then capturing her works

[pulsar path]

Right but she not a devil fruit user

[urban lodge]

Can't wait for yonko level Lily with Zaza powers + paw paw fruit

[pulsar path]

She would just make it rain

[lofty fern]

I don't think it's that big of a fear.

[ashen perch]

Vivi isnt even awakened to her powers

[muted hedge]

Imu has seen it first hand, no matter how much they try to erase people of the past
they keep coming back to haunt him

[pulsar path]

I mean but if she did than holy land would flood

[rose rune]

@barren token

[ashen perch]

she's not going to do anything if she's captured

[ashen perch]

I agree

[pulsar path]

I mean we don't know how the powers work thon

If shes an sleeping god

[final trench]

#pending

[muted hedge]

i think that Imu is planning on giving Vivi a covenant if she is captured again

that way, Imu will have control

[ashen perch]

I think its anti Lili propaganda personally, thats all

[ashen perch]

cook

[muted hedge]

it would also align the Nefertari family like it should've been

[maiden saffron]

The forest god should’ve been named zaza instead

[muted hedge]

before they ran from the decision of becoming a Celestial Dragon

[maiden saffron]

Thoughts?

[final trench]

Vivi is an anicent weapon or the key to an ancient weapon

[prisma yacht]

So real

[ashen perch]

Vivi too

[prisma yacht]

All the za comes from forest

[pulsar path]

True

Or a tent

[rich hornet]

There is all this talk about dragon this, Vivi that, but nothing on zunesha? It feels closer to a rain god than dragon

[maiden saffron]

Oda giving dragon a rain god fruit instead of the wind logia would be hilarious

[prisma yacht]

Greedy

[muted hedge]

if Lily was Zaza then that very much explains how they transported the poneglyphs back then

[pulsar path]

You can't have zaza with out some water tho

[maiden saffron]

W dragon

[twin thicket]

vivi being a god would make her YC1 btw

[muted hedge]

the poneglyphs were moved by the waves

[ashen perch]

youre right on that, Zunesha is worth considering more than Dragon for sure

[maiden saffron]

Because of the self spray?

[ashen perch]

but I think he's more like a hint character

[dapper tree]

She goes from top 800 in power to top 40

[maiden saffron]

Dragon seemingly controls the weather

Very rain god like

[dapper tree]

Dragon has a wind paramecia

[final trench]

I think dragon is something else tbh

[pulsar path]

I just don't know man

[final trench]

^ this or a zoan

[muted hedge]

i still think that Dragon's main attribute is the wind, but i am not opposed to him being Zaza

[warm falcon]

source: Kotobank, japanese dictionary

[ashen perch]

The Whale Tree that gets sprayed alongside the land is hinting at the rain god spraying over the Whale Pluton to power it

[dapper tree]

Zoan piece never stops

[prisma yacht]

No zoan pls

[muted hedge]

zoans are sick

[warm falcon]

for Sea God

[rich hornet]

Right I feel that

[pulsar path]

The fruits are getting crazy

Can we even go back now

[muted hedge]

why would you want to go back

god piece is dope

[pulsar path]

What was the last bon mythical fruit introduced

[dapper tree]

No we in god piece

[pulsar path]

Non

[muted hedge]

so much lore

[final trench]

Which is why i think dragon has a snake zoan

[rustic coral]

Oda made it his life's mission to make zoans cool

[pulsar path]

I guess probably a god valley fruit

[rich hornet]

The teapot? Idk

[pulsar path]

Dead ass tho!

[final trench]

If he lives up to the “insurgent serpent”

[thin quest]

Summer's Thorn Thorn Fruit

[final trench]

Arrow fruit?

[dapper tree]

The bunch of vice admrials who had a bunch of random paramecias

[muted hedge]

insurgent serpent was an anime thing though, no?

[final trench]

Yea

[pulsar path]

But summers is a jobber

[final trench]

But i still believe

[dapper tree]

Oh yeah, sommers

[rustic coral]

Its just setup for God Usopp mythology at the end of the series

[warm falcon]

i forgot the name of this technique, that is: when the image adds a meaning to a distant text

[pulsar path]

Yeah them too

[ashen perch]

theres been like 3 dozen non mythical fruits introduced in the last 3 arcs lol

lets relax

[pulsar path]

But to compare then to like dragon ?

[ashen perch]

if you mean the last non mythical zoan

thats Hound

[muted hedge]

i saw someone say that if Dragon is the rain god then it would be fitting given
after the rain the sun tends to show

[dapper tree]

Dragon going back to basics

[hasty sable]

Zunesha = Zaza actually legit

[urban lodge]

Isn't it the otter guy

[ashen perch]

Pomsky has an otter zoan too

[dapper tree]

Wind paramecia

[muted hedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sky-rainfall--k01KR9GNEV954GJR93AXEP9AQW7

[rustic coral]

Myth zoans are the only cool zoans so i cannot blame oda

[ashen perch]

Hound has the hound zoan, pomsky has the otter zoan, Stussy has a regular bat zoan

[pulsar path]

Only it in katakana right like the video game lol

Or kanji?

Bat fruit

[muted hedge]

wasn't it said that Zuneisha is part of an animal species

[rustic coral]

Doesnt she have succubus zoan

[hasty sable]

Stussy isn’t a succubi zoan smh

[ashen perch]

no

[muted hedge]

the long legged elephants or something

[ashen perch]

its just a bat

[hasty sable]

Oda L

[rustic coral]

And luffy's fruit was gomu gomu no mi

[final trench]

We got a Dalmation zoan before a doberman zoan

[muted hedge]

we need Patrick Redfield

[rich hornet]

It’s like when ganfall was riding a “Pegasus”. I wish we had more of that

[ashen perch]

its not the same thing...

[urban lodge]

Would have been funnier if she was a fruit bat

[barren token]

Me af

[muted hedge]

make him a god's knight Oda

[final trench]

Where the blood logia at 🩸

[hasty sable]

Ultra-rare Gerd

[rustic coral]

Simp

[pulsar path]

Why is Imu so chummy with nidhog and rat. Is this 1st world devil talking

[muted hedge]

yes

Imu is nostalgic

[ashen perch]

Imu is the 1st world devil himself

[rich hornet]

Because Nidhoggr is from the second world

[final trench]

Ehhhh

Technically yea

[muted hedge]

what makes you say that he is from the second world

[final trench]

The fruit atleast

[barren token]

Hes having a great time meeting up with old friends

[ashen perch]

he fought Nika, now its possible that the god of war just lived for like 3000 years but.... idk

[hasty sable]

And they will never meet

[pulsar path]

Hmm idk

[brittle basin]

Imu might be the First World's devil if the people really did, like the dwarves, "delve too deep and greedily."

[pulsar path]

Oh is Imu that Nika

[formal wagon]

[rich hornet]

Because it is a fruit power and Imu knows about ragnir. Pretty sure the “Nika” from jarul’s story is just Joyboy

[ashen perch]

I really doubt that lol

[hasty sable]

I don’t think he’s from the first world

[final trench]

The war god shapeshifted

[pulsar path]

Imu!!!

[muted hedge]

this has to be from the first world in my opinion

[hasty sable]

Isn’t Imu one of the twenty?

[pulsar path]

That's Imu

[urban lodge]

Yeah I really don't think that's Joyboy

[hasty sable]

Should be second world

[pulsar path]

Or rather the devil

[final trench]

First world

He fought nika

[muted hedge]

would be interesting but i don't think so

[urban lodge]

I don't think it's mutually exclusive

[pulsar path]

First would Nika was "Imu"

[rich hornet]

Through a giant’s retelling of events

[urban lodge]

Imu can be one of the first 20 and have just lived really long

[prisma yacht]

This is from 1st world

[muted hedge]

has to be

[prisma yacht]

Mythical stuff

[prisma yacht]

#WasNeverReal

[ashen perch]

its interesting that Imu doesnt call him Ratatoskr though

[brittle basin]

This is what Ivankov suggests, which could be Oda using them as a mouthpiece for the reader.

[ashen perch]

but maybe Ragnir is the personal name of Ratatoskr

[ashen perch]

oh okay

[muted hedge]

have we ever talked about what caused the original Nika's defeat

do we even know what could have

[ashen perch]

Earth God and the Hellflames Serpent

[rich hornet]

That’s the key hint it was a hammer when he knew it. And it hasn’t been active since the last Nidhoggr

[rustic coral]

Imu and previous Nidhoggr teaming up

[muted hedge]

previous Nidhoggr?

you think so

Imu did call him a traitor, so i guess it's possible

[rustic coral]

Yea

[ashen perch]

Yeah I did consider that, but it doesnt line up with what we know. There hasnt been a Nidhoggr since the God of War.

[muted hedge]

so, the devil which is Imu and whoever the hellflame serpent is

i believe the current reincarnation of the hellflame serpent is Shamrock by the way

[rustic coral]

Nidhoggr is the god of war

[ashen perch]

ykwim

[pulsar path]

Or Nika og turned into the devil and spawn devil fruits

[formal wagon]

tbh...

[rustic coral]

Do i

[ashen perch]

the big giant that faced Nika

he could transform into Nidhoggr

[muted hedge]

the god of war Elbaph

[warm falcon]

Serpent of Karma/Hellfire

[ashen perch]

they are both kinda the warrior god in a way

[rustic coral]

Cuz they the same person

[hasty sable]

Imu killed two Nikas?

[final trench]

No one else claimed the fruit for centuries

[ashen perch]

yeah

[urban lodge]

That would be awesome

[formal wagon]

oda is hiding the identity of wapol's father for a reason

[warm falcon]

Nika = 2 😛