#also-manga

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"They were just roommates"

thin quest
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Imu and Joyboy being a gay couple would be very on brand for pirates

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ashen perch
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whoever picked this font deserves to get fired again (they have already been fired)

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you can see the typesetter struggle to fit in the text

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is it updated nowadays? I never really noticed

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but this idiot still doesnt understand that its the FONT

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oh yeah its entirely different after East Blue

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i should check on that one day

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i have them

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wait

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i have skypeia open right now

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yeah, thats what the regular font is supposted to be

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yeah it's better

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i see it now

ashen perch
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its normal by Arlong Park already really

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LMAO

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Good page choice

opal gull
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Who Slop

trim lily
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crazy oda foreshadowed xebec this early

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The better Xebec

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Truly Goda

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whoslurp

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@formal wagon good may bit

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rose rune
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I made it more of a where's waldo/wally for you

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opal gull
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someone posted this on #manga from r/piratefolk

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oda sees everything you have posted on twitter

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he cares about YOU specifically

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fallen meteor
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irl

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Mine has yet to come... LuNa EOS

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i really should unfollow this subreddit

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trim lily
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like june right

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!rmd list

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soon

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!rmd list

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ashen perch
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Theres 500k members in there lol, just shows the horrific state of the fanbase

trim lily
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i look forward to finally getting a bingo in 4 chapters

fallen meteor
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i'm lowkey worried of my rmd list

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!rmd list

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!rmd list

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oh damn

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Isnt piratefolk just the people who came from other series and are mad its not exactly like theirs?

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ashen perch
trim lily
urban lodge
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No way piratefolk has more users than us

hot cairn
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these people are ridiculous

trim lily
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is there a /r/piratefolk discord

opal gull
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If BM doesnt come back, You will have to change your name and pfp for 2 weeks

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bizarro also manga

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specially how real the hate is of some chars

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like they genuinely do hate

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some people care way too much about this series

opal gull
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ahahahaha

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opal gull
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nice pfp Dolfius

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!pfp @trim lily

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tch

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Guys like him are actually pitiful because why are you still mad over Toei fucking up and then fixing some color schemes

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opal gull
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ashen perch
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its not actually difficult to point out flaws but that subreddit could never

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half the "faults" they find arent even real issues

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but whatever

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Thanks

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first time seeing a hancock and robin shipper

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All they can come up with are misinterpretations, misinformation or bad faith slop

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hanbin? rocock?

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hanbin, surely

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almost said rob for the second one

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I've seen ships of Robin that nobody should have ever seen

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This is cute atleast

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oh not that bad

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🄵

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yeah i saw it lol

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hot cairn
opal gull
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What about Robin x Zoro?

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do you see Robin with anyone other than yourself?

trim lily
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speak of the devil, i just came across a fic with both

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ashen perch
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It's evil

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Robin x Spandam is one of the worst ive seen

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Yeah...

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that’s a bad faith ship

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lucci x robin is good probably

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I have actually seen a lot of hanrobi so I'm surprised it only had 25 works

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Well more fanart I guess

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the 1D vs the 2D realm

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slow-ass week

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It is yeah

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atleast the hints kept it going

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its dry rn

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and Summer started

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I dont have much to do anyways

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we're bringing back bingos connections and ranking character outfits

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instead of theoryslop

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hmm

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and screenshotslop

opal gull
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why dont we make a powerscale tier list? and rate each others list?

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everyone knows it's Franky x Robin

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Franky is out of her league and deserves better

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hot cairn
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????

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what are you saying?

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JESUS!!!!

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already 2 weeks of break

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and then another

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hahahahaha

ashen perch
opal gull
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I am very curious to see yours

hot cairn
opal gull
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Cause I dont know where your agenda lies

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ashen perch
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You guys wouldn't get it anyways, my list is purely story based

hot cairn
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Not agenda

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Imu is the Final Antag and Top 1

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ashen perch
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I have no agenda, Mihawk is stronger than Shanks because the story demands it

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Zoro's goal will be unambiguously fulfilled

opal gull
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Unless I see something from Mihawk

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its not true

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His title is outdated

ashen perch
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No?

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he needs to show some stuff

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rather than clowning around

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Imu just upscaled Mihawk even more

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Mihawk is chilling

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Yeah, the WSS license runs out every 10 years, he has to renew it

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ashen perch
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Everyone acknowledges him as the world's most powerful swordsman, this is just, I'm afraid... Cope.

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hot cairn
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# opal gull rather than clowning around

you know how you still get exp when you kill low level enemies? mihawk is like that, he spent his time grinding in the four blues for exp so that he can becomes "strongest" swordsman

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ashen perch
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Nothing Shanks has done that Mihawk can't, I don't get this feat debate

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Feats are irrelevant in my idea of powerscaling

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I REJECT YOUR IDEA!

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keen falcon
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I have aura right

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ashen perch
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Does the story need Mihawk to be unambiguously the peak that Zoro surpasses? Yeah, that's all that matters

digital spear
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Please say I have aura pls

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rich hornet
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pls gimme some aura pls

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celest mauve
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keen falcon
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Shanks is absolutely a swordsman

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yeah

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he's haki guy with sword RageGrrr

digital spear
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What if Shanks is not s swordsman but Mihawk is still stronger

keen falcon
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He fights with his sword as his primary weapon and not just any old tool in the box

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plus it doesnt matter because mihawk > anywho

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celest mauve
keen falcon
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Though I do feel like Mihawk is probably stronger, like zoro is to sanji

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I am sorry for you

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YC

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no i didnt do that

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and bro hasn't even seen through the illusion yet 😭

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I don't have an issue with shanks being weaker because the story doesn't need him to be the strongest and he has massive influence on the world anyway

mihawk is a nothing character without his status as WSS and the final goal for zoro though

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Shanks is stronger until proven otherwise imo

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dense haven
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shanks is HIM

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mihawk has to be stronger to compensate for the ugly shirt he wears

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Talking bout Mihawk

I hope we get an update on the CG

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thin quest
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Shanks has observation killer conqueror's haki as well

ashen perch
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Sure but he can just say Zoro is the second strongest in the world eos

ashen perch
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That's the guy he intends to surpass, it doesn't work if it turns out that he's not even the strongest

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Justice is just a word the survivors use to justify their existence. The weak cling to it because they are afraid to face the truth. I don't want to be right. I want to be the one who decides what remains. She thought she broke me but she only set fire to the cage. Now I will finish the job. I’ll burn the feelings the people and every lie they call 'righteous' until the world is nothing but ash and silence. If victory means suffering alone in the void then I’ll embrace it. I’ll be the god of the ruins because in the end I’m the only one with the strength to tear it all down.

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Aura

rich hornet
ashen perch
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There's really not one reason to question Mihawk's title aside from this vibe that he hasn't proved it

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But again, I think feats are unimportant

digital spear
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Vibe > all

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this is the whole "the strongest swordsman in the world is kaido with a knife" thing again

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Mihawk is the world's strongest swordsman

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and zoro's dream

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when Zoro surpasses him, he takes over that title

opal gull
# ashen perch That's the guy he intends to surpass, it doesn't work if it turns out that he's ...

but as I said, for me not everyone that uses a sword comes under the definition of "swordsman" in terms of Zoro's dream

What Im talking about is a specific category defined by swordsmanship as a dedicated fighting identity and discipline.

That was my original point in the first place. I am not doubting that Zoro will not be the WSS lol, he is my fav character

Now at the end of the day, this is an assumption from me about there being a difference in what counts as a "swordsman" is based on swordsmanship values rather than simply "fighting with a sword"

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I also think through Tashigi, Oda highlighted that there's people who use swords, and then there's people who live and die by the sword

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and there's a difference

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Tashigi's whole dream is to get great blades out of the hands of people who don't take swordsmanship seriously

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keen falcon
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If we refer to swordsman as only being an intense hyperfixation like zoro or tashigi have then mihawk's title is meaningless because very few people give that much of a fuck about true swordsmanship

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Because at that point it refers to what like 4?5? People?

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I mean

maiden saffron
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@shrewd spear stop spamming the same paragraph again.

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grand flower
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Defining swordsmanship debates after Zoro agreed with Kaku saying his legs count as two swords

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Or is it

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Whether or not you believe shanks is stronger is one thing, but I can’t understand how you wouldn’t think shanks is a swordsman

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I've seen people try to argue that Law isn't a swordsman when Law literally calls himself one

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I mean other than you not wanting him to be stronger than Mihawk

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Which is fair

grand flower
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Defining swordsmanship debates after Shamrock said shooting disembodied demon dog heads into Loki was his sword attack

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Because Oda puts a lot more work into showing shanks then Mihawk

digital spear
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But isnt Imu the worlds strongest swordsman now

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So I can understand how it’d be uneasy to think Mihawk is stronger

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Imu I wouldn't count as a swordsman

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ashen perch
# rich hornet The way the title is put to question through direct duels. A theoretical swordsm...

But that's not Zoro's goal now is it? It's not just to inherit the title, it is to actually become the strongest. If Mihawk's not that, then him merely inheriting the title by beating him is not equivalent to him actually achieving his dream.

Also, Zoro's not going to ignore Shanks if there's any chance of him being more powerful, I just don't think that chance will even exist and the ambiguity will be straight up cleared up.

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It would be interesting if the people who were saying shanks isn’t a swordsman despite him using it every fight are now saying Imu is a swordsman because he used a sword once

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Zoros goal is to have fun and be himself

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I wonder when fans will realize oda is hyping up Mihawk every time a swordsman does something

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maiden saffron
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I also think Mihawk being WSS has somethign to do with him posessing the world's strongest black blade.

So ultimately, WSS might not even be a thing about strength specifically. It may be about who can create / wield the mightiest black blade.

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Where 😭

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maiden saffron
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and Zoro will surpass mihawk by turning the wado into a stronger black blade compared to yoru

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I have no clue what you're asking Shuron ngl

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😭

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Holy gaslighting

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You've made me read my message 6 times

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ahhh

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This is a psyop

rich hornet
# ashen perch But that's not Zoro's goal now is it? It's not just to inherit the title, it is ...

I don’t see a difference between the title and reality of being the strongest. Anyone who doesn’t actively challenge for it is only hypothetically stronger. It’s like an in-world exercise of this conversation. We can only guess until it’s tested

If Shanks doesn’t feel like challenging, we will never know and Zoro is the strongest until proven otherwise. Unless like I said, Zoro takes the initiative to go after anyone with a sword he feels like he needs to prove himself against

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It’s implicated to us that the world simply gave up on surpassing Mihawk

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It'd be out of character straight up for Zoro to not want to be unambiguously the strongest

grand flower
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Supplementary said Mihawk overcame all his worthy challengers

digital spear
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Mihawk casually beating Kaido and BM every breakfast

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Ans in the series itself, Mihawk told Zoro in Baratie it’s been a long time since someone showed his initiative and guts by challenging him directly

warm falcon
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live controversy? šŸæ
or am i late?

maiden saffron
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no

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fucking swordsman status debate in current year

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(imo)

rich hornet
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I'm sure the flashback will clear it up in the event of his death

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  • WSS debate in may 2026
digital spear
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I dont think Shanks dies before the finale

rich hornet
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The point of ognib is supposed to be crazy things, not things that will 100% happen

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I think Mihawk won the duels, and they're Brannew's reason to say that his sword skills are superior to Shanks

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Mihawk had to have won at least once

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Now unfortunately Brannew is a silly Shanks coper

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So he's being annoying with his wording

digital spear
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Thats why Bran D. New is the goat

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inshallah

digital spear
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Sorry Figarland lore saves Shanks

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But I do think there's no way around it, Mihawk must've won the duels

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Figarlan D. Shanks

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maybe its red head shanks because he has insane regen so he gets all beaten up and looks bloody red but wins at the end so mihawk wins the duels because he deals damage first

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Let Zoro beat Shanks

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It'd actually be good for Zoro lol

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Even though that fight is never happening

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Maybe, but there's something that did lead Brannew to make the conclusion, ultimately it likely went in Mihawk's favor

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Like if Shanks is a bonafide swordsman have Zoro challenge him to a fight or at least say something about his swordsmanship

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Who wins now

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frigid gulch
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Shanks might’ve lost by default

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Shanks doesn't have regen

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we dont know that

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Otherwise he'd have two arms

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He could already use conquerors to coat his attacks

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They prob had good haki

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I think there could be dialogue there

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Zoro, Shanks, Mihawk

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I wouldn't be surprised if we got a little clash

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Just Zoro measuring the distance between him and Mihawk through Shanks

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Probably when Shanks interacts with Cross Guild

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He’ll make fun of Mihawk

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Cause of the whole thing

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I really want Oda to reveal his plans for Cross Guild's next move

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After Elbaf ig

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They’ve just been sitting on their asses

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I don’t think that stuff will move forward without Mihawk & Crocodile having to compromise a bit

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they will have to fight another Yonko tbh, cause they have no poneglyphs

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i am assuming if they go after the OP

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I feel like shanks and cross guild could be at the next island

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Lotss of character interactions

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your feeling is right

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Shanks, Buggy, Mihawk

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four way emperor battle at lodestar...

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That’d be fun

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I think we get another island before lodestar

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Shanks and Buggy is always comedy

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lol when was this eyecatcher a thing?

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Mihawk ā€œsubordinateā€ of Buggy he says

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i feel like itd be weird for oda to introduce a random intermediary island right after the big ones

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Lodestar has only had the roger pirates and nobody else arrive in the past 800 years so I think it'll be a special quiet period for the straw hats as a calm before the storm

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egghead was inevitable given we hadnt seen vegapunk

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Vegapunk revival soon

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We didn't know vegapunk had his own island like that

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For me it feels inevitable for Urouge to have his own island arc

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it shouldve been elbaf

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😭 lodestar is not happening

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we are getting vira and vira alone

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no more non vira arcs

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Ognib

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Almost got me

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as long as vira is roman inspired im fine with going there

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the first square = Nerona Paulie

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Vira is Laugh Tale

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nerona paulie is a good one

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i've got a list of potential ones im not sure are good enough

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louis arnol = imu's pen name is one im thinking of

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What if laugh tale is actually just whiskey peak

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my vagueposting king

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i think the idea is not stupid enough for my tastes

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i need to get stupider

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Shanks and Buggy are the best

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I'm sad we haven't seen either in a while

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I miss Buggy

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Are we ready for Luffy to tell Imu he is gonna be pirate king?

fallen meteor
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which SH still have not said it

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Absolutely

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Ahhh man Imu is up for some generational trauma

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I mean buggy too I think actually

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Shanks we saw like 5 times throughout the flashback

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Buggy we haven't seen in a while

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I'm greedy, I want more Buggy and Shanks interactions

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I get it

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Shuggy redeemed Shanks' character for me

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Shuggy is crazy

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Buggy meets Imu
Imu: Da..Davy Jones

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but imu

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thats just Oda

prisma idol
lofty fern
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I can honestly see why Imu calls people by these placeholder names. Who wants to have to keep remembering the new names everytime another one appears?

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did the editors make oda reveal imu

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This was my equivalent of Avery's dream vision

fallen meteor
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800 years and he's met 6 Nikas, 3 Davy Joneses, and 1 almost-Joyboy

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fallen meteor
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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thats nice

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gaban does kind of sound like jabra

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Jabran

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prisma idol
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LuNa swap

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Why is Nami the captain?

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Luffy can't be a girl and the captain?

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tidal ice
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lofty fern
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I can go for Luffy and Nami, it's better than Luffy and Boa anyway

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how

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grand flower
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@stone tulip I think Luffy and vivi getting together by the end is a very real possibility

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Solid chance

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Like showing Luffy as an adult

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You know

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I wonder if Oda will show us a glimpse of adult Luffy as like a ā€œthe world is healed so Luffy can grow upā€

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I bet they named the Dragon Niddhogg

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I'd rather have Vivi and Koza, they always seemed perfect

grand flower
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Why do y’all laugh

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threw in law and bepo into the mix

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law immediately crushed on vivi at first sight 😭

leaden rivet
grand flower
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Nice catch I forgot about it again

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dense rapids
celest mauve
lofty fern
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I'm sure Vivi remembers. And we'll see him in the LA soon. I'd love to see them expand that romance

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Vivi deserves better

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Sanji in Two Piece when he's stuck raising Zoro and Nami's kid (the kid got orphaned): https://youtu.be/Ussqi3nagrQ?feature=shared

Pearl sings a beautiful soliloquy about love and loss as she struggles to move on from Rose's death.

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like I remember just writing them off as "yeah they'll probably get together, moving on"

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We could get a Usopp level kiss which would be nice

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Ask a one piece fan who Koza is and 9/10 they won’t

celest mauve
prisma idol
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solid stone
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oh bluko

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i never updated you

prisma idol
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Tomodachi?

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yeah

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nami went from crushing on zoro (mutual crush) to falling for sanji within an hour

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The only real Vivi ships at this point are Vivi x Luffy and Vivi x Imu

solid stone
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and luffy had a failed attempt to impress nami

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prisma idol
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We hang on

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You got this luffy

lofty fern
solid stone
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I've also added Vivi, Ace, Sabo, Law, and Bepo

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Kid and Killer are gonna be tough

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mostly Killer

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trim lily
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koza feels like such a fake character

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Koza isn’t real

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Irene just made him up right now

trim lily
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i see his design alongside the others and think ā€œthat can’t be realā€

celest mauve
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why all the kohza slander man, he seemed fine when I was reading alabasta

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lofty fern
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He's as real as Kaya who's barely been in the story as long

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Koza's just whatever.

prisma idol
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He does feel very anime filler like

leaden rivet
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distant vine
solid stone
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sleeper hit character

celest mauve
solid stone
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Toto

celest mauve
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the yuba defender

fast pagoda
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TOTO

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I remember him

wet condor
fast pagoda
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I forget about Koza a lot

prisma idol
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Toto hasn't gained a single pound

solid stone
wet condor
keen falcon
wet condor
#

He's from Yuba

solid stone
fast pagoda
#

Koza and Toto are probably gonna be super prominent in season 3 of the live action

wet condor
#

but that's not his name

celest mauve
#

I remember kohza well enough but only his dad as the yuba defender, not "toto" LUL

prisma idol
wet condor
#

Yeah lol

leaden rivet
#

Oda probably forgot his name too

grand flower
#

It’s really really really hard to choose a favorite Kaido moment but this right here is so deliciously evil I love a good villain

wet condor
#

Or the guy who gave Luffy water

solid stone
wet condor
#

It was some other guy

prisma idol
#

Rain dance powder

solid stone
#

all I know is he believed

#

😤

celest mauve
prisma idol
wet condor
#

Luffy got lost in the desert and ran into someone's shack that had rain dance power and starts eating it thinking it's food

#

yeah

lofty fern
#

I like Koza's whole backstory with Vivi, one of the few things I liked about Alabasta was their relationship

solid stone
#

he almost looks like kid zoro there

wet condor
lofty fern
wet condor
#

It is

urban lodge
#

Koza sucks, imagine getting your ass beat by a 4 year old as an 8 year old

solid stone
#

thinkin about the sad zoro theme again now

wet condor
#

I get mixed up what's anime filler and canon too sometimes when it comes to really old stuff like that

lofty fern
solid stone
#

early anime ost was really nice

fast pagoda
#

It was canon

wet condor
fast pagoda
#

Yes

lofty fern
#

Crocodile is good but he's not really one of my favorites. I don't care for the vast majority of Baroque Works, and especially back then I couldn't stand any "Let's never fight" messages. I think I would have punched Vivi myself if Luffy hadn't done it

fast pagoda
#

Chapter 164

lofty fern
#

Liked Bon Clay, though he didn't cement himself as one of my favs until Impel Down

dense rapids
wet condor
fast pagoda
#

Its there idk what to tell you lol

wet condor
#

You cannot troll me

celest mauve
wet condor
#

Still not as bad as Koby

fast pagoda
#

Chapter 164 its RIGHT there

solid stone
#

LA Baroque Works was pretty fun

#

lookin forward to how they handle the remaining members

fast pagoda
#

I dont like that they made them pirates

#

They are bounty hunters

dense haven
#

bounty hunters might as well not exist in op

keen falcon
#

Yeah but it's super lame that they don't

#

The bounty feels more like a power level than anything with nobody trying to claim it

dark nymph
#

Oda knows this and decided to add bounties part 2 with cross guild stars

trim lily
#

it gives oda a way to communicate how strong or threatening a character is

clever quail
keen falcon
#

Far more interesting to have them than just a number

#

Is there a current top 20 bounty list?

#

Wiki page on bounties sucks and splits it by crew and stuff 😠

trim lily
#

road to laughtale had one i think

keen falcon
formal wagon
#

road to laughtale > the actual manga

urban lodge
#

All you need to know is Wakainu has the highest bounty alive WAKAINU

formal wagon
#

unironically give me another month of the editors vagueposting

lofty fern
bold sonnet
#

Mr Garlic

stone tulip
stone tulip
celest mauve
#

the logistics wouldn't work anyway as long as vivi is devoted to her country over the SHs

stone tulip
wet condor
stone tulip
wet condor
#

I don't dislike her overall either, just that part lol

dense haven
#

vivi from good future is not a pirate

#

its over

formal wagon
#

lets see good future and bad future cavendish

#

lets see good future and bad future lucci and kaku and the other one

fast pagoda
#

Also blackbeard was hunting bounties in jaya

#

They just become irrelevant in the new world

final trench
#

Bounty hunting as a whole became irrelevant

#

Besides cross guild ig

#

They’re keeping it alive

austere comet
#

Bad future he's in psych ward or has a tin cup out asking for a crumb of popularity

#

Good future idk

ashen rose
grand flower
thick mango
#

well a queen now

#

right? cobras dead

#

... or is he... oda....

celest mauve
#

@ZakariaM13k15 Loki tf?😭

Loki was injured, transformed, attacked the MMAs with various named attacks, tranformed again and now is fighting Imu for a period of time

Luffy been a vegetable the past few mins cuz he used a G5 attack on Sommers😭

wraith mantle
#

Found penny’s account

thick mango
#

its hard to think who has the msot annoying fans

frail kindle
#

based on my experience, its kidd

thick mango
#

didnt most of the kidd fans convert after 1079?

cunning narwhal
#

i feel like zoro and sanji fans are both the most annoying

thick mango
#

i dunno if its jsut from the contrast in expectations but ive seen a lot of chopper fans who are weirdly agressive/hostile

frail kindle
#

true...

stone tulip
stone tulip
thick mango
#

i imagine back in previous arcs villians like doffy, bm, kaido probably had a lot of fans

stone tulip
thick mango
#

but these days barely anyone is an unironic wg fan

stone tulip
trim lily
#

i think the knights pulled a few people back

stone tulip
thick mango
#

if someone rolls up as a genuine WG fan i assume theyre baiting

#

theres just nothing to like theyre not even that strong compared to people like kaido

#

their only property is their gleeful cruelty

clever quail
#

People like getting behind the winners regardless of the intent or the methods used to achieve the status.

thick mango
#

i feel like people who enjoy that like bb

#

the wg arent even really winners lately

hot cairn
thick mango
#

it seems hard to be a mihawk fan theres so little to go off

#

maybe thats why theyre bad

hot cairn
#

crazy

clever quail
#

They were for 800 years, that's longer than fans of the US been around as an example.

Roman Empire or zhou empire would have comparable civilisational standing for those folks

thick mango
#

i guess but arent people mostly latching onto like.. whats actually happening in the story

#

wg doesnt have a ton of wins in the panels of the story i mean

#

other than the implied wins of their position youre talking about

clever quail
#

Partly the fault of Oda that, at the introduction of the new world, pirates were going around crucifying folks. And while we have had Doflamingo running a gun cartel, and some instances of wb's son running amok, piracy as a whole has been shown in a much more favorable light

But for some reason people like Garp, fujitora and Vegapunk do not openly rebel.

#

Until we know why, sh crew and maybe law is an exception to the norm.

thick mango
#

true yeah the wg does a decent job of keeping order outside of people like luffy. So they are winning off screen. And people like garp are doing good wokr against evil pirates presumably. Just not who we happen to follow

clever quail
#

I guess vegapunk's broadcast changes status quo when world government actions are linked to billions dying.

#

Depends on how Oda frames it, inevitable result of a foregone conclusion from actions undertaken years before, or just a bunch looking out for their own skin.

#

Even then I can see the anti woke crowd chiming in about Oda making a climate change hitpiece lol to back the WG

leaden rivet
clever quail
#

The most annoying were the shippers, always.

#

Kokoro x sanji

Wut

unkempt sable
blazing depot
tough igloo
celest mauve
#

don't "hate" him but really don't care for him nowadays

#

and when his fans try to use that WCI panel to prop him up above the other SHs, I know they have zero reading comprehension

strong wadi
opal gull
#

this is false

royal orchid
#

!rmd 11h kiku vote

tropic novaBOT
distant vine
opal gull
#

Yeah, its just being happy cause of the hype moments he has gotten

#

Silver Zoro

#

The results come on the 4th

distant vine
#

They were right, anyone not on rooftop was too weak to get there FujiKEK

opal gull
celest mauve
rain cedar
#

God forbid you dont have acoc in this series to remain relevant

#

It really has gotten to that point hasn't it KataOmegaLUL

celest mauve
#

blame oda, he went extra hard on conqueror's in elbaf

rain cedar
#

And locked the GK behind Acoc damage

dapper tree
#

All the SHs should have been on the roof

#

smh my head

#

for a round

rain cedar
#

Ive always been an Acoc hater. Absolutely ass of a powerup

dapper tree
#

acoc is dumb yes

#

it's just better acoa

rain cedar
#

It took away from acoa as well

#

No one gives a shit about internal destruction anymore

dapper tree
#

and I'm sure observation killing is just acoc again making acoo useless

rain cedar
#

At least thats limited to Shanks ig

dapper tree
#

for now

rain cedar
#

Yeah, inb4 we learn that Shanks stole it from Roger

celest mauve
#

imu probably has it too

rain cedar
#

The concept in itself is probably not allat complex

#

Acoo literally can not be used unless you're calm 100%

#

So the other guy just had to spam coc to disrupt your observation which is probably what Shanks does

pulsar path
rose rune
ruby moat
#

Where does soap come into play in those things

placid rover
rose rune
placid rover
balmy field
balmy field
rose rune
#

everyone just has the answer nowadays...

balmy field
balmy field
rose rune
balmy field
dense snow
#

u trying to call juba?

balmy field
dense snow
#

thetuba

prisma idol
royal orchid
#

it's a little version of Mu, Gunko. I want thee to have it.

balmy field
dense snow
#

its a missed joke then

#

sed

balmy field
#

lmao

prisma idol
cosmic hamlet
prisma idol
prisma idol
#

Mu yearns for Joy and Whimsy

prisma idol
cosmic hamlet
prisma idol
cosmic hamlet
balmy field
prisma idol
#

That one

balmy field
#

?

high wolf
prisma idol
prisma idol
balmy field
high wolf
prisma idol
balmy field
prisma idol
high wolf
#

That's enough to convince me

prisma idol
balmy field
prisma idol
balmy field
prisma idol
royal orchid
prisma idol
prisma idol
balmy field
odd rune
#

who was talking to imu

balmy field
cosmic hamlet
#

Shouldn't it have died down

placid rover
placid rover
hardy stratus
#

What are y'all bozos talking about

weak wedge
#

Thike

alpine trench
#

did ecto get banned or something lol

shadow knoll
#

It's time

#

We sacrifice Kawasaki to bring back Rocks

balmy field
#

ROCKS coming back is peak

cosmic hamlet
#

Man, i love makino. I should switch to makino fan šŸ˜‡

balmy field
cosmic hamlet
fiery spire
rose rune
balmy field
rose rune
rare ivy
rain cedar
#

Such a good panel and all it was ever used for is....

warm sierra
#

People hallucinating Imu was squatting on the hilt just to upscale Mihawk

pulsar path
balmy field
#

i may ask

lofty fern
grand flower
#

It’s a very obvious callback, I’m interested in what Oda intends to do with it

pine ridge
hearty shore
pine ridge
#

It's good

placid rover
spice python
#

!kaideux

hardy stratus
#

Other LA adaptations can't even be a decent show so the ban is in hell

#

Bar*

pine ridge
hardy stratus
#

It's bare minimum. You cant be a good adaptation without even being a good show/movie

#

Like V for Vendetta is amazing movie but a terrible adaptation

#

Plenty of other cases

pine ridge
#

but what makes the opla not a good adaptation

hardy stratus
#

The characters are wildly different. Garp is outright butchered. The emotional scenes lack any effect whatsoever. There’s plenty of changes that doesnt work (every change other than dividing the flashback amd adding that sbs character zoro kills)

#

I think the cast is chosen well but still no character feels like their manga counterpart

#

Zoro is the biggest offender. He feels like ā€œBest Zoro moments youtube compilation ā€œ zoro than preTS zoro

#

Manga luffy is adorable stupid. LA luffy is annoying stupid

#

Nami feels very hollywoodified

#

Sanji is okay ig. There’s no major issues but minor differences that make him come off as a different character

#

Usopp is meh

#

I did like Roger’s performance but it doesnt have the ā€œFun but wild dude who likes to add theatricalness and grandiose to scenes and stuff be doesā€ but a completely serious dude

#

Which for just first chapter is okay, but jp dub had that nuance in his delivery thst made the rayleigh comment retroactively fit it through the performance

rustic coral
#

What are we on about

hardy stratus
#

Heart of romance dawn just isnt there. That Koby and Morgans Marine base farewell scene is still one of my fav scene in OP because it sets early on about Luffy and his value’s inspiring even those who are completely different from him , amd also about the ā€œgoodā€ in the base Marines that Garp wants to protect. About them setting aside their ranks and positions and saluting Luffy

hardy stratus
rustic coral
#

You are capping

#

Its pretty good

#

S2 is much better

hardy stratus
#

Anyway thats some of my issues with it. Need to go to a party now

hardy stratus
#

Most anime adaptations arent even decent shows

muted hedge
rustic coral
#

Eh its a p good adaptation

#

Just focused on different things

hardy stratus
#

And photo from url

muted hedge
#

nah, i want the image which is now

hardy stratus
#

And it will show both images

muted hedge
#

it's so good

hardy stratus
#

It will show both

grand flower
hardy stratus
#

It removes any aspect of what got me into OP

grand flower
#

Ik the former is technically a form of the latter

muted hedge
#

Imu blocking Loki's attack with omen while having his back turned is so sick

grand flower
#

It feels like something different so I checked out

hardy stratus
#

Any fav part of RD that i liked is either removed or not done as well

grand flower
#

Mostly Luffy

hardy stratus
#

Characters lack the nuancw they have in manga

grand flower
#

Luffy saying ā€œyou’re stronger than meā€ to Arlong

#

And talking about ā€œgood piratesā€

#

Sanji may be sanitized

hardy stratus
#

Zoro is thw worst

#

In LA

hardy stratus
muted hedge
#

he was better in season 2 at least

#

compared to season 1

#

edgy, but not as edgy

grand flower
#

Yeah manga Zoro has a charm to him from being a guy who really wants to look cool

LA Zoro plays it too straight

hardy stratus
#

This is Zolo

#

Mackenyu’s zoro aint zoro

grand flower
#

Theyre more interesting characters for it

muted hedge
#

Mackenyu is embracing more of the post-timeskip Zoro, that's the problem

hardy stratus
#

Usopp in LA is a worse character because of how much more he’s able to do

muted hedge
#

it's not the pre-timeskip Zoro other than design

hardy stratus
#

Whats the pount of character arc when the destination is your starting point

muted hedge
#

i don't see any problem with Usopp in the live action

hardy stratus
#

He’s far too competent

#

Which isn’t Usopp

muted hedge
#

I think that Usopp has always been pretty competent, he is just too scared to show it at times

#

though lately he has definitely been played off as more of a goofster, compared to before

#

the comedic relief of sorts

spice python
#

Pre-TS Usopp is more capable relative to SH crew, this changes post-TS

#

So his portrayal is actually spot on

rain cedar
#

There was a point where nami and Usopp were toe to toe. Now she is leagues ahead

muted hedge
#

just feed Usopp's Kabuto a devil fruit

rain cedar
#

Working on his observation would be enough lol

#

But idt that will be addressed until he fights Auger

muted hedge
#

both

#

Kabuto with some kind of devil fruit, as well has extremely good observation haki

rain cedar
#

I think egghead would've been the perfect opportunity for Usopp to have gotten a DF

#

Because if there's anyone who knows how to feed DF to objects, it would've been vegapunk

#

But oh well

muted hedge
#

i could see it anywhere really, given Oda could just have a fruit spawn literally anywhere for the most part

#

it would be even funnier if Usopp feeds Kabuto a devil fruit by mistake

#

given Kabuto already has a mouth

golden summit
#

Fatass chopper

muted hedge
#

maybe a devil fruit gets mixed up within his seed bag

golden summit
#

Fatass chopper

rain cedar
golden summit
#

Fat chopper

muted hedge
rain cedar
#

I mean that's valid i guess 😭

#

But that would be more like his pop green getting a DF instead of kabuto no?

golden summit
#

Fat choppa

muted hedge
rain cedar
#

Tbh I'd take anything but I'm low-key losing hope for him

#

#packitup if no comeback by the end of Elbaf

hardy stratus
#

Usopp was good in Punk Hazarf and Dressrosa.
Not present in WCI

#

I Guess only 2 arcs are where he's problematic

rain cedar
#

Yeah, I love Punk hazard especially because it gave Usopp and chopper spot light

#

But even so, I do think he has been a bit underwhelming

warm falcon
#

@royal orchid do you still have the blushing imu meme u made? pls

hasty sable
#

In practice that’s ten years since Usopp has done anything pogPause

dapper tree
#

He uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

rain cedar
#

He saved the raid obviously

#

The SH were doomed otherwise

spice python
#

At least Franky makes robot machines and Chopper's a doctor, Usopp got very little

rain cedar
#

common Oda L šŸ˜”

vernal ravine
#

oda sacrificed elbaph as usopp's arc for Loki

#

good decision tbh

spice python
#

Yeah actually I agree with that, Loki's a great character and I prefer the focus is on him

#

Rather than forcing a Usopp moment it's better to wait and see

clever idol
vernal ravine
# clever idol I dont like this line of logic

i think I know what you mean because Oda could have developed usopp better regardless of what he does with Loki, but the way he's written the arc, it's clear Loki is the one with the big lights on

wet condor
#

"Sacrificed" assumes that Oda intended for Elbaph to be Usopp's arc in the same way that WCI can be considered Sanji's; that's usually people's reference point when they talk about Elbaph being Usopp's arc

#

We don't really know what Oda had originally envisioned for Usopp in Elbaph

#

Is the official spelling Elbaf or Elbaph?

proud pivot
#

usopp will pull up to imu and grab him by the throat and use his own omen on him
imu then teleports away back to mg with cold sweat

knotty root
#

Elbaf wasn't planned in the first place no?

#

I rememeber hearing that skmewhere but I can't remember the source

wet condor
#

I mean, you'd have to ask Oda about that

proud pivot
knotty root
#

I think it was in an interview

#

I'll try to find it (I won't)

vernal ravine
wet condor
#

I mean in WCI, when Loki was first mentioned, I think most people expected that he'd be relevant in this arc

#

You can maybe say this if you confine the group to just the SHs

#

Of course Luffy will always get something big because he's the MC

knotty root
#

I doubt usopp will die this arc

#

Him not surpassing his father will feel off

#

Nor van augar, if he ever does

proud pivot
#

my top 3 theories
elbaf is saobondy 2
usopp learns omen
chopper is imu's counter

I know at least 2 of these will be true believe it

grand flower
#

They also wouldn’t have the grand fleet, so Luffy wouldn’t be an Emperor

#

The lookouts outside Kaidos castle woukd have also been able to report them, ruining the ambush

#

Usopp also saved Kinemon’s life and I’m pretty sure Kiku’s

#

He’s been plenty capable

lost pasture
#

ā˜ŗļø

#

yousop is already a brave warrior of the sea .

rain cedar
#

Sorry, but i refuse to believe that

#

But yes, he certainly saved kinemon

lost pasture
#

and kiku

#

just finished with 1085 today

#

wano is over

rain cedar
lost pasture
#

nope i have completed manga