also-manga

[hardy stratus]

Even people who don't like OP

[alpine trench]

is this an elaborate bit

if not then your faculties to examine and comprehend are limited, my friend

[hardy stratus]

People saying "should gave character death" like its some strict rules of story

[royal orchid]

just because oda makes some haki clashes doesn't mean he hasn't drawn fights lmao there's just not a lot of opportunities of characters mano a mano boxing and weaving

[ashen perch]

Same, I mean its one thing to criticize the frequency of the fights for sure, maybe Oda could be doing more! But its a totally ridiculous lie to say that he's bad at it when he does them

[shadow knoll]

um if someone's complaining about too many fight scenes in shounen they might be just low iq

[hardy stratus]

💀

[digital spear]

It happened this chapter

So yeah

[royal orchid]

argh just fightslop

[digital spear]

This chapter felt quick because its a fighting chapter

[royal orchid]

argh just loreslop

[hardy stratus]

Not really

[ashen perch]

I just had a debate yesterday over the final war because some individuals really do not like the possibility of it having a lot of fights lol

[digital spear]

Possibility?

[ashen perch]

Well I think its guaranteed really

[digital spear]

Theres no other way

[hardy stratus]

OP is already more of a quest fantasy than a battle shounen

[opal gull]

some people have final war ending in 50 chaps

[hardy stratus]

we need less fights rather

[digital spear]

Whos we

[hardy stratus]

Okay sorry don't have to throw shade to me every day

I misremembered the length of Onigashima

[opal gull]

hahahaha, didnt think you would catch it

[ashen perch]

You do need to reevaluate that though ngl

[hardy stratus]

I Already did!

[ashen perch]

What's it at now

[hardy stratus]

80 Without fbs

[urban lodge]

Add a hundred to those 50

[hardy stratus]

So maybe 100-120 with fbs

[digital spear]

Final war 100 chapters depending on where you think the final war starts

[shadow knoll]

Okay, not wanting a fight intensive final arc is crazy

Like, just switch genres at this point

[ashen perch]

Gotcha, I think it'll be 200 including everything tbh

[hardy stratus]

It's a fantasy manga

We are here for adventhre

and the world

not stupid fights

[shadow knoll]

yeah...sure

[opal gull]

ZA WARUDO

[shadow knoll]

don't say this on twitter btw

[digital spear]

We are in Battle shonen in the jump we do be here for partly fights

[hardy stratus]

💀

No one cares about them

[shadow knoll]

you know what oda should do, make three different one piece mangas

[hardy stratus]

No

[shadow knoll]

one's loreslop, one fightslop

[sly belfry]

so true

[shadow knoll]

and another's in between

and all three combine to complete the full story

that should solve the problem

[sly belfry]

he should me draw the fightslop one and get artur on loreslop

[shadow knoll]

[runic dock]

One piece is a battle shounen adventure manga that’s required to have fights

[digital spear]

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2050133640470761585 amazing

R O H I T (@lwkyRohit)

😭😭😭

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 1, 2026, 8:42 AM

[digital spear]

So glue

[runic dock]

Is Elbaf his territory tho?

[digital spear]

LOL

[hot cairn]

it isn’t

[ashen perch]

Its not

[digital spear]

Nah but I like how creative they get with slandering characters

[ashen perch]

Elbaf is nobody's territory

[digital spear]

Its my territory

[runic dock]

So creative you have to start using fake points

[shadow knoll]

bro got bodied by harald...

[runic dock]

I think they’d be more creative if they’d stay canon

[digital spear]

baddied??

[ashen perch]

It'd be creative if the slander was rooted in reality

[shadow knoll]

wouldn't hate that either

[digital spear]

I dont know, I think Shanks should help Elbaf with all this, but I think he will

[ashen perch]

He has no clue lol

[digital spear]

Shanks is coming...

He will learn

[runic dock]

Yeah but I can’t really laugh when I’m like “that’s not even partially true tho what we laughing about “

[ashen perch]

Atleast with my Dragon idea, I believe Dragon has been coming anyways

[shadow knoll]

shanks is on his way

[ashen perch]

Shanks literally just left

[final trench]

By the time he shows up the damage is already done

[runic dock]

Shanks is too busy chasing Blackbeard’s shadow

He doesn’t have time for not the main villain

[digital spear]

Shanks will be battling Dragon who will come to Elbaf first

[shadow knoll]

but will probably meet blackbeard on his way to elbaf

and die

[ashen perch]

He won't be on his way to Elbaf man he left like hours before the SHs arrived 💔

[runic dock]

Shanks kills himself after realizing he can never find Blackbeard after 1200 chapters of searching

[shadow knoll]

let the bench warmer plan for his grand scheme

it's not his time YET

[hardy stratus]

It's clear he wants some fights to have full impact and some to just be done with
Based on narrative importance

Which is okay for me

[digital spear]

And already reached the island where Barto is before strawhats arrived. Havent we already established that Shanks is fast as fuck

[hardy stratus]

I don't want full fights for every single mf

[royal orchid]

WB: hey Ace, since you're my second division commander, would you like this information on the Revolutionary Army and their main figures so you can recognize them?
Ace: No.

[hardy stratus]

That's where it would be like some other sword fighting manga and get tiring

[full coyote]

Why not?

[ashen perch]

And he doesn't even know any of this is happening, that's a little impossibly fast

[hardy stratus]

Because that's padding at that point

[shadow knoll]

he's taking american airlines

[runic dock]

We don’t need fights like that yeah but he also does use fights to establish people , like he did in dressrossa establishing the grand fleet

[shadow knoll]

he'll be fine

[hardy stratus]

yeah it's okay for me

[digital spear]

See thats what I dislike why would Ace know abou them

[royal orchid]

so he could recognize them

[ashen perch]

Why would any of them care

[royal orchid]

I said it right there it's a good reason tbh

[hardy stratus]

people act like their minor character who isn't narratively important and is a jobber is a big shot and be angry that that character doesn't get an extended fight

[digital spear]

If Oda skips the fight of Sarie Nantokanette ...

Idk what ill do

[runic dock]

Who the fuck

[shadow knoll]

who?

[frail kindle]

Your mom

[hardy stratus]

This but unironically for most

[frail kindle]

Gottem

[shadow knoll]

is a good person

[runic dock]

Gottem

[digital spear]

Do you think Dragon comes to Elbaf

[hardy stratus]

No

[ashen perch]

I do

[runic dock]

Dragon in the flower room

[digital spear]

Its more impossible for Dragon

[hardy stratus]

why would he

[shadow knoll]

they will come after luffy leaves

and everything settles down

[runic dock]

He wants to kill imu obviously

The whole point of his revolution

To topple that guy

[hardy stratus]

How would he know Imu's there

[runic dock]

If he knew somehow imu was here , perhaps he’d be inclined, I’m not sure tho , but the reason is there

[shadow knoll]

um where did dragon get to know imu in elbaf

[formal wagon]

[shadow knoll]

and when

[hardy stratus]

Imu is only here to have Luffy have a minor internal conflict

meta wise

[runic dock]

Well that part is up to oda , I’m just saying dragon would chase after imu if he was aware of him

Motivation

[ashen perch]

I explained it here

Dragon doesn't need to know anything

[urban lodge]

But like, Imu showed up like 10 minutes ago and Dragon is on the other side of the world

[formal wagon]

why didnt rocks tell dragon about imu

[runic dock]

Yeah unless dragon has dem den mushi placed around Elbaf or something then idk

[ashen perch]

Dragon didn't need to know that Luffy was going to be executed by Buggy in Loguetown

He just happened to be coming to see off his son

[runic dock]

Rocks didn’t know who dragon was , and dragon was on the opposing side lol

[shadow knoll]

something i think he would do

[formal wagon]

or someone made him be there

[runic dock]

As a cadet

[hardy stratus]

I think smth along the lines of what you describe would go down

[shadow knoll]

i don't even think it's that

[hardy stratus]

But not in Elbaf

[shadow knoll]

it was a mere coincidence

[opal gull]

Dragon is the Wind

he knows everything

thats why he is Dragon

[ashen perch]

I mean he does see off his son lol, and we know from Kuma's flashback that he made that decision after hearing that Luffy became a pirate

[formal wagon]

dragon is luffy dad

[hardy stratus]

People want dragon to be a stoic man who doesn't care about Luffy smh

[opal gull]

Also where is Kuma?

[hardy stratus]

in the Mural room

Or in the ship

I forgot

[opal gull]

Dragon should come for him tbh

[shadow knoll]

getting smelted to be used as metal parts for the ship

[ashen perch]

Elbaf is what makes the most sense for it though, the world including Dragon know where the SHs are, his friends Kuma and VP all are right here right now, his son just barely escaped hell descending upon him in Egghead. I think the timing is perfect.

[opal gull]

maybe we get some info about the burn scar man from Dragon?

[hardy stratus]

Then in the cool down period of Elbaf

The point when Shanks arrived in Wano

[ashen perch]

well, I think we'll get that conversation in the cooldown period

But Dragon will also save Luffy's life before it

[hardy stratus]

I think he would arrive at cool down period

if its saving Luffy's life, he would come in 5-10 chapters

cuz Luffy is gonna face the Joyboy/nika thing with Imu really really soon

[grand flower]

Coincidence that dragon was there?

We know that’s not true

[muted hedge]

Dragon rescuing Elbaph would be sick

[ashen perch]

A callback to Loguetown, a callback to "The World has been waiting for our answer", he can deliver it straight to Imu's face. He's The World after all

[grand flower]

When he asked Sabo about who was stationed at Loguetown, Sabo asked him why and dragon dodged the question

[formal wagon]

the fridge

[ashen perch]

Yeah that's what I'm expecting, its happening real soon

[muted hedge]

what was Dragon doing the last time we saw him, present time

[shadow knoll]

oh im a speed reader, don't mind me

[formal wagon]

playing on his phone

[hardy stratus]

I think that would rob SHs from moment to shine to rescue Elbaf and fight Omen-buffed HK

[ashen perch]

He was saying that the matter of the great flooding needs a swift resolution a few days ago

[shadow knoll]

luffy gotta have daddy isssues, ngl

[digital spear]

Dragon can come to Elbaf, if would still need longer for him (hes as fast as the wind but he probably wont go alone) than Shanks who reached Barto within like 1 day or what it was. during Egghead he was at Elbaf and at the end he was already with Barto at the same time as Dragon was still at Kamabakka and then 2 days passed? So its definitely not that impossible. He would also have heard Vegapunks message and could have deduced the WG is following Luffy to Elbaf and thered be trouble there

[shadow knoll]

his dad just saves him and dips

[hardy stratus]

Luffy: I have a dad?

[muted hedge]

ah

right

[ashen perch]

I dunno, I don't think they're going to shine

[hardy stratus]

I think this is the perfect part

for them to

Imu has a time limit

he would go back really soon

After defeating Luffy fosho

[opal gull]

The SH will lose here

[shadow knoll]

fair enough he's not smart enough to understand reproduction

[ashen perch]

Sanji is knocked out, Zoro is in as bad of a condition, the rest of the crew can maybe stall and Luffy's not lasting long against Imu. I think we're heading towards them needing one last rescuing

[digital spear]

Next time we see Shanks again he will probably have already appeared at his goal again

[hardy stratus]

I mean obv?

Why waste time showing him sailing

[keen quiver]

Sabaody 2.0

[formal wagon]

wwho did shanks marry on the desert island

[hardy stratus]

not as bad

[shadow knoll]

I agree with this, and Dragon is the perfect fit, but still kinda conflicted

[opal gull]

I mean yeah but without the consequences.

So no crew getting separated, or someone getting captured etc

[muted hedge]

it's either Shanks or Dragon, really

i could see merits with both

[digital spear]

I implied it being fast

[shadow knoll]

Shanks is not coming

[hardy stratus]

Imu would discredit Luffy's agency and tell all he's done has been Joyboy's actions and not Luffy's

[opal gull]

just a loss and then Imu has to leave cause he is on a "timer" of some sort I hope cause of being away from Marijois

[muted hedge]

Shanks friends are in severe danger

and you know what Shanks lives by

[opal gull]

or I guess Dragon comes in

[frozen aspen]

shnaks is busy bullying weaklings, he is scared of imu and bb

[opal gull]

Both could work

[ashen perch]

Also YC I think Dragon already set sail after the last time we saw him, meanwhile Shanks realistically would need to hear about it somehow, think that Luffy needs to be rescued and then also embark on a journey back to Elbaf. That just seems unlikely.

[frozen aspen]

[hardy stratus]

Let go of agendas and read my friend read

[frozen aspen]

no

[royal orchid]

so you're saying BB>Kaido

[shadow knoll]

how does he know that

[frozen aspen]

yes

[keen quiver]

Imu is scared of davy jones and joyboy thats just a fact

[hardy stratus]

Dragon's one two sentence convo with Imu is gonna be great

[digital spear]

"Hear about it somehow" again, everyone heard the VP message

[opal gull]

[ashen perch]

I mean hear about what's happening in Elbaf

[frozen aspen]

wonder if oda will kill dragon off at some point

[hardy stratus]

How does it tie to reverseShanks agenda they posted

[shadow knoll]

toxic ex

[frozen aspen]

i hope he does it would be funny

[royal orchid]

dragon's gonna call Imu some weird special name no one ever mentioned in the series

[shadow knoll]

he won't he's too pussy to do that

[hardy stratus]

@prisma yacht

[keen quiver]

I don't really care about shanks agenda he's constantly careful around bb

Which is always funny to see people ignore

[frozen aspen]

sadly

[muted hedge]

well, Dragon didn't know of Imu's existance until very recently

since he was surprised when Sabo came back with the information

[hardy stratus]

Yeah

[muted hedge]

but, maybe he could tell them their true name "St. Nerona Imu"

since I don't think that anyone has called them their full name yet

[prisma yacht]

Garling kills dragon chapter 1267

[shadow knoll]

"my oshi, it is thou i have been searching for" - dragon

[digital spear]

Shanks would know that the WG knows Luffy is at Elbaf. Both Luffy and Elbaf would be in trouble

I think he knows, but if he doesnt appear he just trusts Luffy that he will make it out of there. But he def has the means to know and be there in time

[keen quiver]

The name nerona means nothing to luffy

[frozen aspen]

only if dragon is on 1HP

[ashen perch]

The World shall hear him out soon

[keen quiver]

So that would be funny to see

[prisma yacht]

Sure

[shadow knoll]

xp bar not that low buddy

[prisma yacht]

Hi sof

Long time

[frozen aspen]

hi

[prisma yacht]

The world is waiting for chouchous answer

[frozen aspen]

been kind of uninterested in op lately

[rocky plank]

Dragon will be fraud or peak?

[muted hedge]

expecting him to be anything less than peak is just odd

there's no way Oda will fumble him

[ashen perch]

But even then yea, I don't see why Shanks wouldn't expect him to handle it. Its not like he has any clue who actually ends up showing up.

[muted hedge]

God Valley was a mere tease

[formal wagon]

let me think about this

[rocky plank]

I let you

[hazy turret]

20 years to answer

#EYUP

[opal gull]

[ashen perch]

Its been like 2

[muted hedge]

the only real fraud in this series is Buggy, yet people use it for every other character lol

[frozen aspen]

ngl i wouldnt mind dragon fucking up, bc i know the slander he will recieve will hit heights we haven`t seen since kidd

[muted hedge]

so you just read for the slander?

[formal wagon]

nah

[ashen perch]

Maybe if One Piece fans were funny

[frozen aspen]

its the only thing keeping the series fun for me rn

[opal gull]

[muted hedge]

damn, i am sorry for you

[prisma yacht]

Am i not funny enough for u

[frozen aspen]

im just tired

[muted hedge]

i would have dropped the series if that was my entire reason for enjoying it

[opal gull]

maybe take a break tbh for some time and then join back it helps

[ashen perch]

Negative

[frozen aspen]

tis what happens when a series goes on for too long

[ashen perch]

Did you expect it to have ended already

[frozen aspen]

yeah thats for best ig

[hot cairn]

of what?

[formal wagon]

one piece should have ended in jaya

[ashen perch]

The series is going for as long as it needs to

[urban kiln]

whats arsal's theory

[digital spear]

One Piece interest comes and goes like ebb and flow just be there for the ending

[urban kiln]

@ashen perch wahts your theory

[muted hedge]

it's the same rehashed posts over and over again

and the sad thing is that people actually enjoy the same rehashed trash being posted over and over again

[urban kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-foxy-foxy-one-piece-afro-luffy-gif-26153229

[frozen aspen]

the series going on and on. I know we are getting somewhere eventually but still

[hardy stratus]

which

neronami?

[keen quiver]

One day

One day

[hardy stratus]

or dragon in elbaf?

[urban kiln]

idk the one that shimon mentioned

[hot cairn]

you might need a break, it’s not ending anytime soon

[urban kiln]

I quoted a bit above

[hardy stratus]

Arsal has a bunch of weird ones apparently

[frozen aspen]

i know

[hardy stratus]

Nami being Imu's daughter being one

[rocky plank]

Wat

[frozen aspen]

bet he stole that from that one dragon x crocodile shipper artist

[muted hedge]

i don't think that Imu will have any direct offspring

[keen quiver]

All I've been seeing robin is imu's daughter

[hot cairn]

agreed

[muted hedge]

if anything, it could be from a brother or sister of Imu who made their own family

[hardy stratus]

Nami has more backstory potential

cuz like we can say oykot is a cd hunting ground incident

in retrospect

[formal wagon]

thats a common meme theory

[urban kiln]

One Piece is an adventure manga that doesn't exclusively focus on reaching climaxes of arcs/stories/etc. If you can't enjoy the little things along the way as entertainment value outside of major reveals, you're not the type of person that should be caught up weekly. If you can enjoy these things, OP is a great weekly experience. But if you just want tangible narrative progress, you're going to turn into a One Piece hater

[hardy stratus]

Arsal has well thought out garbage theories fortunately

not low effort meme ones

[formal wagon]

[hardy stratus]

idk I am getting tangible narrative progress

not just "plot" progress

[ashen perch]

Oh um, I think Louis Arnot's warning at the start meant that time would pass too quickly for humans in Elbaf, especially as they go higher up in the Heaven Relam, that's why he advised adventurers to not linger too long. Gaban is able to avoid this by leaving the island regularly (we know he wanders around all the time)

The idea is that all the similarities between Kid's destruction here and Luffy's in Sabaody means that he's undergoing a bit of a timeskip, facilitated by the faster running time in Heaven Realm

[hardy stratus]

who cares about plots

[muted hedge]

rather see well thought out garbage theories then low effort meme ones

[brittle basin]

Imu arriving is plot progress technically, it's just that now you have to deal with fights.

[frozen aspen]

im just tired of reading weekly for over a decade its not that deep lmao

[hardy stratus]

yee

[urban kiln]

I think we've had enough strawhats with major characters as their parents. I dont think anyone else in the crew should get more. Sanji's was foreshadowed consistently so that makes sense, and the little bit zoro got about his lineage explains some things. But I think it should stop there

[muted hedge]

good thing you could drop it and then return when it's done or your interest picks up again

[hardy stratus]

Nami's now is as foreshadowed as Sanji's during Jaya

[frozen aspen]

there is big reveals happening rn and i couldnt care less

[hardy stratus]

Arsal has receipts

[hot cairn]

well said

[urban kiln]

wtf 😭

[ashen perch]

Well I'm sorry Red but Oda himself has confirmed that he has a story in mind for Nami's birth

[urban kiln]

screenshot por favor

[hardy stratus]

whcih I think is just about her being a CD native hunting ground survivor

[brittle basin]

Ah, I see you haven't read Arsal's Louis theory yet.

[hardy stratus]

nothing more

[trim lily]

that’d be fun if that’s all it is

[brittle basin]

Fair, it ain't gonna work for everyone.

[trim lily]

though it doesn’t really factor into her life

[urban kiln]

yeah so that wouldnt mean she has a famous parent. All would be fine if thats all it is

[hardy stratus]

yeah I just think it's that

[keen quiver]

We avoided nepo piece with this one

[hardy stratus]

but Arsal has some "foreshadowings"

[hot cairn]

then drop it

[hardy stratus]

which is like same as Sanji's was at early stages

[formal wagon]

its the strong world statement

[trim lily]

stupid oda running his mouth after strong world and film gold

[digital spear]

I mean why would Imu leave his daughter in a country he raided, could the same happen to him as it did to Garling?

[hardy stratus]

Idk Nepo Piece doesn't really mean much

If the changes highlight a story

[ashen perch]

Q: Did you have any intention to show Nami's past here (referring to Nami's non canon flashback in Film Gold)

Oda: No, thats what Mr. Kuroiwa, the scriptwriter thought about so I just allowed it. I told him not to over visiting on the character. Maybe he thought of Karina as a character that resembles nami. Mr. Kuroiwa was also the one who created both Karina and Mad Treasure, so no, it wasn't in my plan at all.

I also have thought of a completely different (past) story for her. Of course, a "Nami's real parents..." story is too much for a film, but as long as it doesn't overlap with the original manga, it was OK"

Source: One Piece Gold Backstage Pass

[brittle basin]

The big reveal we've had lately is really just Imu, and even that wasn't much.

[hardy stratus]

I don't like underdog narrative stories anyway

[urban kiln]

then you've already allowed yourself to become a One Piece hater because you're not the type of reader that works well with weekly one piece. You'd probably find great joy if you would just let arcs finish and binge read them as your first experience instead.

[muted hedge]

if Nami was a Nerona she wouldn't be directly from Imu, more so just from the Nerona family tree

[trim lily]

davy too

[brittle basin]

I'm less interested in Imu and more interested in that 3K-year old facility on Elbaf.

[trim lily]

and all the maki whatever

[urban lodge]

Because Nami is Sommers' daughter actually, not Imu's, and he lost her during a native hunt

[trim lily]

SO true penny

[hardy stratus]

yeah there's been a few

[frozen aspen]

ok

[brittle basin]

Maki goes hand-in-hand with the Imu reveal for me. Davy, eh, I guess that's big, but I found Imu far bigger.

[fallen meteor]

whats sommers family name again

[ashen perch]

I don't have a screenshot of that one atm but I can find sandman's tweet verifying the previous time he talks about Nami's birth https://x.com/i/status/2040560922381729857

sandman (@sandman_AP)

What do you think about Nami's birth?🥺 Oda (2016: I had conceived the initial plot of Strong World to dig into the secret of Nami's birth. The movie staff was shocked to read the content. The story became too touching, so I revised it to be more exciting for the young audience.

X · Apr 4, 2026, 10:43 PM

[formal wagon]

more likely

[hardy stratus]

I mean it's nearer for you so weekly read messed up it fr

[urban lodge]

Shepard

[hot cairn]

it’s that simple really

[hardy stratus]

cuz Davy was far bigger reveal than Imu for me i suppose

[fallen meteor]

shepard nami

[brittle basin]

I want a Shepard's Pie now.

[hardy stratus]

but that's probably just cuz it's not as expected to happen as that

[fallen meteor]

it doesnt sound as cool as nerona mi sorry

[frozen aspen]

will u stop pinging me now

[hardy stratus]

I was expecting to get info about Imu really soon

[muted hedge]

nothing except for the one piece will probably be as big of a reveal as Imu was to me

[hardy stratus]

I wasn't expecting Davy stuff

[brittle basin]

Yeah, it's a "to each their own" kind of thing. There's no right or wrong answer here.

[hardy stratus]

ye ye

[ashen perch]

Shepherd Nami is absolutely not what Oda has avoided telling in 2 separate films lol

[muted hedge]

the Davy clan stuff felt so abrupt and sudden, sure Davy Jones himself has been mentioned before but eh, it just felt a but sudden

[ashen perch]

Let's be real 😭

[keen quiver]

The davy stuff came as a surprise tbh, I was expecting to just be joyboy and imu

[brittle basin]

For me, Davy was more like "oh that's a cool confirmation. Let's see where Oda goes with this."

[hardy stratus]

this makes it more interesting for me

[brittle basin]

But I think I had more anticipation for the Imu reveal.

[urban kiln]

"nami's real parents" is worrisome. Hopefully they'd just be celestial dragons and not fucking IMU

Literally miserable decision if it ends up being fucking Imu

[brittle basin]

Davy was the third wheel in their relationship. That's how the war started.

[fallen meteor]

isnt a gorosei also a shepard
i feel her being a gorosei daughter could be it

[digital spear]

I mean would it straight up be Imu? Or be another Nerona

[formal wagon]

jupeter is also a shepard. Peter = family guy who has an orange haired wife. Just like sommers. Nami is descended from peter and lois

[hardy stratus]

Davy stuff tied together with BB being Rocks son has already made final conflict 10x more interesting

[muted hedge]

it could be from Nerona without being directly from Imu

[hardy stratus]

Arsal just present Red with the bullet points you did yesterday smh

[fallen meteor]

like sure sommers isnt cut for the big things soon for nami but child of a gorosei is another thing

[hot cairn]

my bad

[digital spear]

Wheres the Nerona clan @

[ashen perch]

I think it's straight up Imu

[keen quiver]

Yeah, I was expecting teach to just be a fan of xebec and that was it. But now we know there's more to it than that.

[urban kiln]

wouldnt be surprised if it was like, the child of an affair a celestial dragon had with a peasant and the celestial dragon was ashamed

[muted hedge]

i disagree with it being directly from Imu

[urban kiln]

what does that even mean dude

[digital spear]

Why and whys there no resemblance between them

[hardy stratus]

that was not as fun as this is going to be

[brittle basin]

NeroNAMI Goda /s

[hollow dove]

Because Demalo Black cosplayed both and only Luffy and Kid after being utterly defeated in the OP world (post-Marineford + vs Shanks), Arsal figured that Elbaph’s mystical land features an unexplored area such as the heaven realm that dilates time, which Kid has been in training to get his get back at Shanks.

After all, once Luffy was defeated at Marineford, it was Rayleigh who aided him. I believe that the other hand of the PK Gaban would have saved Kid from drowning, and chucked him into the Heaven Realm to see if he can sort himself out.

Unlike Shanks and the Giants, Gaban actually likes other people who tend to cause trouble, such as Loki. If Gaban if find of that, plus the new gen, it could make sense that he saved Kid and helped send him into a training arc of “3D =2Y”, the EXACT numbers and letters shown on Kid in chapter 1012. 3 specific days have even passed since Shanks fought him on Elbaph.

This may all culminate in Kid actually being a trump card to turn the tides against Imu.
After all, I think it’s most logical if Imu doesn’t only get taken down by forces he’s aware of such as Nidhoggr and Nika, but external ones he didn’t count on as well.

[digital spear]

Nerona clan

[fallen meteor]

wait i just got a big realization

one second i might have solved it all

[brittle basin]

good job

[ashen perch]

look, people arent ready to hear the numerology stuff sometimes...

[muted hedge]

assuming that Imu wasn't a single child and maybe had a sibling whom could have prolonged their family line with more children etc.

[keen quiver]

I feel this is all connected to having multiple fruits at this point.

[opal gull]

Do you have a link to this great theory of yours?

[ashen perch]

I havent written it properly

[keen quiver]

Besides whatever promise davy made

[fallen meteor]

warrior god of agriculture
nami has her trees on the ship - agriculture
one piece is so easy man

[brittle basin]

There are probably little Alabama inbred Neronas running around Marijoa, maybe one birthed Nami.

[muted hedge]

we still don't know what happened at Kuraigana do we

other than there was a war between two sides

which is quite obvious

[urban kiln]

oh so time moves SLOWER in the heaven realm not faster, in this theory

[hardy stratus]

Blackbeard being someone for whom his history and lineage and that promise is acting like shackles where the decisions he has made while appearing to him as through his own agency is him following a predefined path unknowingly is a nice contrast with Luffy's Inherited Will and Imu's own presence being there for millennia to enforce it

[brittle basin]

This could straight up be a Buggy post lol

[hardy stratus]

the trifecta is more interesting than two separate duology

[brittle basin]

Those are the kind of connections Buggy makes Marin

[fallen meteor]

i know i'm just saying shit

[digital spear]

Another Buggy banger

[hollow dove]

Yes exactly, thus we would have a 25-year old Kid for the remaining story

[hardy stratus]

how old is Kid in Wano shimon?

[brittle basin]

Buggy so funny and entertaining. Our own little Alex Jones.

[muted hedge]

i disagree

[urban kiln]

Imu seems the type to kill their own brother/sister to erase any trail leading to him. This theory seems silly to me. I also imagine Imu's power is what allows him to live as long as he has, and that a sibling wouldnt have that power.

[formal wagon]

remember when the anime had buggy theorize rayleigh was luffy's uncle

[fallen meteor]

if i'm not talking about BB's mother being sewn into his back i'm not being 100% serious
that one is the one real one

[keen quiver]

I really need to hear what the plan is from his perspective, all we know is that eris likely knew the full plan from xebec. And whatever story was passed onto him including the will from 800 years ago. I did not expect him to be at god valley for any of this.

[ashen perch]

Oh yeah that would be a better way to describe it I guess, the idea basically is that in 3 days, 2 years have passed for Kid

[keen quiver]

I just find it very compelling as a decision from oda

[hollow dove]

23, same number ranking as his last popularity poll, conveniently enough

[formal wagon]

thats scary

[brittle basin]

BB is revenge

The panel on GV tells you everything you need to know about BB

[hardy stratus]

it just made BB more compelling than a rocks fanboy

[fallen meteor]

i will drop grafted eris when oda shows a single panel of BB's back

[brittle basin]

A man's dream never ends? He plans to end the CDs. He may not even sleep at night because of GV.

[hardy stratus]

if Nerona Nami can bring smth like this to story? maybe I would like it

[ashen perch]

I feel like it would be correct to say that time passes faster if 2 years are equivalent to 3 days, but its easier to understand if I just say its slower

[muted hedge]

well i don't think that their sibling would have that power, i am just saying that they could have a sibling who would've made love with someone and extended the family tree there for a descendant of Imu would be possible it just wouldn't directly be from Imu but from a sibling of theirs. and the point of Imu killing their sibling could still go in line, as they could've had children which Imu didn't know of

[fallen meteor]

two souls on a single body, two dfs

[hardy stratus]

but so far Arsal has no reson/motive for that theory having any value fr

and it's just goroawase

🏃‍♂️

[urban kiln]

interesting idea, I like it. I have thought Kid was on Elbaf this whole time but had no idea where he'd be. So makes sense to me

[digital spear]

Wouldnt it be more suspicious if the entire Nerona clan was just erased after the WG was formed? There has to be 19 families in Mariejois and Imu is from one of them

[keen quiver]

It adds even more to this scene and everything he's done in the story so far.

[brittle basin]

Wocks

[hardy stratus]

rereading OP after finishing is gonna hit so hard

there's more and more layers to every of these interactions

[brittle basin]

"damn this is worse than I remember" /s

[urban kiln]

void century exists for a reason

[hardy stratus]

I have already reread it 3 times. still amazing

[keen quiver]

"We really could have cut a couple chapters from dressrosa and wano."

[brittle basin]

i have reread it zero times baby! only random ass arcs

[digital spear]

But theyre glorifying those 19 families,

[hardy stratus]

skill issue

[digital spear]

Do you think one of them is gone

Im wondering where the Nerona clan is anyway

[hardy stratus]

For me I don't really care about those stuff

[shadow knoll]

too early to think of allat

[brittle basin]

speaking of which, my skypeia reread

[muted hedge]

i think most of them were killed off, when Imu became the world

[urban kiln]

isnt it 20 families, but the world only knows 19 or something?

[hardy stratus]

I know how hard it is to write a story. I can only imagine how fucking difficult a weekly serialization is

[muted hedge]

key word, most of them

[ashen perch]

tyty, yeah he has been entirely missing from the same island that he got destroyed in and we have seen most of the 2 realms. The only one we actually havent seen is the Heaven Realm

[digital spear]

Ive been wondering since we learned Imus name is Nerona

[fallen meteor]

with how irl theres this thing about Nero burning Rome i think the Nerona family got wiped by Imu

[muted hedge]

there could still be Neronas out there, who just don't know it

[keen quiver]

Just some of my lesser liked arcs in my reread. My favorite post ts arc is whole cake tbh

[ashen perch]

Theres still 19 in Marie Geoise, that includes the Nerona Family

the one thats missing is the Nefertari family

[hardy stratus]

when even books with multiple drafts and revisions and editors and editor rounds have bad chapters (almost every single book)

[urban kiln]

ahhh yeah

[hollow dove]

After getting Red Hair murked for a second time, actually laying low and training with a calmer head could be some good character development. A rehash of Luffy’s timeskip of course, but so far it already sorta seems like it is so why not go the full mile 🤷‍♂️

It def beats the alternative of staying a character that only bull-charges at the same target and getting ravaged with scars without powering up in any way

[hardy stratus]

then OP having these less is an even greater feat

[keen quiver]

I have to agree no masterpiece is 100% flawless

Thats just not realistic

[hardy stratus]

especially on weekly serialization

when you are in a deadline

[digital spear]

Yeah one of them is the Nefertari family who moved to Alabasta (or Lily was killed and her brother started ruling in Alabasta) but nothing they said implied that anything happened to another of the 19 families

[hardy stratus]

and you have so many plotthreads and side plots like OP

[keen quiver]

I think its more beautiful for being able to achieve such highs even with flaws

[hardy stratus]

yeah there's gonna be multiple Neronas floating around

Nerona is a normal family

[urban kiln]

I mean either way, wouldnt it be reasonable to assume that it could be widely accepted 1 of those 19 families never had heirs and died out, but they still honor them as one of the founders? @digital spear

I dont see why itd be any surprise

[hot cairn]

it’s 20 families if you count the Nefertari

[hardy stratus]

there won't be someone of directly Nerona's lineage

other than Nami according to arsal

[fallen meteor]

you guys dont think the Nerona's were all wiped out? i get this idea from the name

like if theres still neronas out there they are hiding

[hardy stratus]

which hey if it adds to story then I am all for nerona nami

marin what was the theory you wanted me to rebuke

[fallen meteor]

eris is grafted on Blackbeard's back

[hot cairn]

who would’ve thought 4 years ago that you would be supporting arsal theories

[fallen meteor]

they are two living beings living on BB's body

thats how he gets two dfs

[shadow knoll]

The only thing I can think of is there's something related to their family in Imu's locker room

[prisma yacht]

Nerona mihawk

[hardy stratus]

current Arsal is different from 3 years ago arsal

[shadow knoll]

With that huge fucking hat for some reason

[hardy stratus]

irl character development

[muted hedge]

that hat is definitely Joyboys at this point

i have no doubt

[hardy stratus]

uhhhhhhhhhhhh

idk

[urban kiln]

what only reading one manga for years does to a mf

[hardy stratus]

what supporting proofs do you have

[hardy stratus]

arsal?

[urban kiln]

arsal

[hardy stratus]

real

[hot cairn]

Arsal only reads Op?

[fallen meteor]

oda never showing BB's back unclothed
thats it lmao

[urban kiln]

hes read others but basically

at least for the last few years

[urban prairie]

Hi strawhats, have the new spoilers already come out yet somewhere? Don't link plz as it's not allowed I think haha

[muted hedge]

we've seen it

[ashen perch]

I mean I did explain the purpose, I think Imu is looking to cure his condition by occupying another vessel and I believe Nami is actually the ideal choice for him by being his direct daughter. It will lead to Imu kidnapping her, Luffy getting pissed off and saving her, tying into one final showdown between Luffy and Nami v Imu, a la the end of Skypiea.

[fallen meteor]

show me

[ashen perch]

I have actually only read/watched like 20 series in the last 5 years

so Red is kind of right

[hardy stratus]

yeah that's very low

[muted hedge]

impel down after the poison from Magellan

[hot cairn]

isnt 20 like… a lot?

[hardy stratus]

I read 200 series in 2021
and that number is at 2 this year

[ashen perch]

not at all

[hardy stratus]

😔

and that was at 1 in 2025

[hot cairn]

holy

[urban kiln]

I feel like this would be extremely convenient considering theres been no indication of him being interested in Nami. Wouldnt it make more sense for there to be mixed blood between him and Vivi, considering he had that photo of Vivi and wanted her brought to him or something?

[fallen meteor]

can i see the panel
pretty sure arsal went to find it and he has something on

[hardy stratus]

he's saying vivi's a red herring

[ashen perch]

yeah

[urban kiln]

thats not how red herrings work tbh

[hardy stratus]

and he's using some goroawase from 700 chapters ago as indication

[ashen perch]

I think he isnt aware of Nami

[hardy stratus]

Arsal thinks now when he sees Nami

then Imu would be aware of her

[urban kiln]

nami has a bounty

[hardy stratus]

yeah lol

but I think he means

like he could sense or feel haki

[ashen perch]

in person

yeah

[hardy stratus]

which he can't with just the name

and image

[urban kiln]

😭

[ashen perch]

speaking of the bounty

do you know its literally I MU

her first bounty?

[hardy stratus]

Nami having 16M bounty

[urban kiln]

Im going to strangle you

[hardy stratus]

wordplay arsal back at it again

[hot cairn]

number theories, wallahi

[hardy stratus]

when his and stoop's were all in failure in wano

[ashen perch]

sorry the 16 thing is legit 😭

[hardy stratus]

leading to stoop stopping to read OP too

all cuz of Arsal

[formal wagon]

bro are you getting paid 😭

[urban kiln]

I hate those theories so much 😭

[hot cairn]

stoop came by here once with an alt

[hot cairn]

me too LOL, they sound so silly sometimes

[hardy stratus]

I like seeing number theories

I don't trust in them

[opal gull]

Have they turned out to be true ever?

[hardy stratus]

but that level of attentiveness to detail is nice

[opal gull]

All these numbers stuff

[hardy stratus]

quite a number of times

like couple dozens over the years

[hot cairn]

everytime I see a theory and it’s revealed it’s based in number stuff it loses all its credibility

[hardy stratus]

there's a reason they are popular

[opal gull]

well then that is a strong case

[hardy stratus]

especially in Japanese fandom

[urban lodge]

16 is definitely real though (except the Nami connection)

[hardy stratus]

not just number but whole goroawase

which number is part of

[opal gull]

Neronamimu

[urban kiln]

I tend to prefer theories that are based on more tangible evidence. The Kid one Arsal and Shimon mentioned being one of those. But number theories are so annoying

[shadow knoll]

nerona uwu

kawai >.<

[hardy stratus]

I think using wordplay for foreshadowing is a common thing

[hot cairn]

you believe in time dilation red?

[hardy stratus]

since it's written for Japanese people

[urban kiln]

believe is a strong word, I just think its a fun and reasonable idea

[hot cairn]

I see

[hardy stratus]

oh jesus btw a friend of mine is now a believer in time piece apparently

[hardy stratus]

he saw a youtube theory about it apparently

[hot cairn]

Shuron’s time piece?

[hardy stratus]

the stuff he mentioned are ones I have only seen shuron mention it

[hot cairn]

your friend will be wrong

[hardy stratus]

but he saw a youtube video apparently

so idk if it's same or someone else reached the very same points

[shadow knoll]

yeah joyboy is coming to meet luffy

[hot cairn]

damn they’re stealing your ideas @grand flower

[hardy stratus]

does shuron have a youtube channel?

[ashen perch]

16:

Its literally I-Mu
Its Nami's first bounty
Its the East Blue Naval branch that Nezumi belongs to, Nezumi means Rat and Imu is referred to as the King of the Rats by Rocks
Its the amount of times that Luffy rings the Ox bell in Marineford, that is seen as a sign of challenging the authority of the World Government itself, its never explained what that meant but Lucci wears an Ox Mask that very clearly resembles Imu in Water 7 too
Its the amount of times a Celestial Dragon shoots a 5 year and a 2 year old child
Its the ultimate attack of Doflamingo, the 16 Holy Bullets
In chapter 1060, Imu destroys Lulusia with 16 beams from Uranus
Imu's Halo has 16 eyes
The 16th Tarot Card is called "The Tower", which very clearly resembles the way in which Imu arrives in Elbaf. The reverse tower card represents resistance to change and attempts at delaying what is inevitable, preordained. Just like Imu...

[hot cairn]

not that I know of

[shadow knoll]

but the time machine is owned by jeff bezos so he's gathering funds to pay for it

[opal gull]

Time piece is a Bootstrap paradox tho

[hot cairn]

but time piece just isnt happening

[ashen perch]

btw, the last bounty increase that Nami got was 300M, her bounty is at 366M

[hardy stratus]

yeah it's stupid for me

oh btw did we have a jinbei bounty poster after he got into shs?

[urban kiln]

ultimately though I've not really cared about ANY theories since like 2016~ or so. I used to watch some videos or theorize, but nowadays I just have a few expectations on what I think will happen based on what I've read within the manga itself and allowed Oda to write the story he wants. I prefer enjoying what we get, rather than overanalyzing what I think we'll get.

So like, at best, I'll be like "yeah Usopp will have a moment, maybe use ragnir since he always talked about his hammer in other arcs". Or "sanji will have conquerors because of little tidbits of foreshadowing that have been on the more overt side"

[ashen perch]

now, if she gets a 300M increase after Elbaf...

[hot cairn]

yeah in chapter 1158

wait I don’t know if we see the picture tho

[hardy stratus]

I like reading them

but am very selective

just reddit chapter threads and here and some other servers

[ashen perch]

did I not just prove the significance of 16 to you with my Imu prediction smh

you cant be denying that when I directly told you that Volume 116 is going to be significant for Imu, its where he'll fight Luffy and we could even get his reveal... and we got both

[urban kiln]

all Im getting out of this is that Nezumi is Imu's son

[formal wagon]

Joyboy was turned into a baby by either the former user of bonney's devil fruit or the former user of shinobu's fruit (who had learned how to reverse the aging) and sent into the future by toki, and that is luffy.

[urban kiln]

[shadow knoll]

what's the significance?

[hardy stratus]

Number 16 has strong correlation with Imu

[ashen perch]

well no 😭

[hardy stratus]

so it's something Oda is using to foreshadow something

[ashen perch]

here

[hardy stratus]

but before he can foreshadow something, he heeds to establish strong correlation

which is proven by Arsal's above piece

[ashen perch]

the ox bell point is extremely important btw

[hardy stratus]

fuck I am defending Arsal's theories now

[urban kiln]

so you're saying nezumi is imu's graaaaandson

gotcha...

[hardy stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/zane-zanegames-zane-shaw-gif-12778655908546475521

[shadow knoll]

weird to chose 16

[hardy stratus]

Nah it's a common number

in these fantasy stories or w/e

surprising but yea

[prisma yacht]

16 is not random

[hot cairn]

yeah yeah, I’m just messing with you

Idk about Nami tho

[prisma yacht]

It's from the gorowase of imu

[ashen perch]

Oda simply cuts away from this strange declaration by Brannew

''RINGING IT 16 TIMES IS A DIRECT CHALLENGE TO OUR AUTHORITY'' what does he know?

[keen falcon]

The holy 16 number is like the only significant number in the series that's more than just a fun fact

[urban kiln]

lindbergh is nami's dad!

[hot cairn]

character development?

[hardy stratus]

character regression

[prisma yacht]

Development? 👀

[rustic coral]

Imus dad

[ashen perch]

speaking of Oxes

[hot cairn]

lmao

[hardy stratus]

fed are you caught up bitch

[shadow knoll]

ah makes sense

[rustic coral]

Yes

[hot cairn]

yo Fed

my guy

what’s up

[rustic coral]

Whats up Jesus

[prisma yacht]

Hoe hoe hoe very similar eyes

[urban kiln]

volume 16..... Hilliluk is Imu's brother

[rustic coral]

I always wanted to say that

[hot cairn]

you need to change your username btw

[rustic coral]

I refuse

[bold sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-gold-gold-gold-gold-cs2-cs2-cases-gif-10056763089801407532

[ashen perch]

the exact same eyes

[rustic coral]

Shiki would have been better than Gabban

[bold sonnet]

[shadow knoll]

GOLD GOLD GOLD\

[ashen perch]

thats actually an important volume though, its titled Inherited Will

[bold sonnet]

GOLD GOLD GOLD

[prisma yacht]

Take away soshis embed perms

[hot cairn]

nu uh

[ashen perch]

the will inherited to take Mu down

[hardy stratus]

this mf is still at that????

[ashen perch]

ofc

[bold sonnet]

[urban kiln]

Im going to put a bullet in my skull tonight and its going to be your fault

[ashen perch]

lets fucking goooooo

[hardy stratus]

Nah I am with Arsal in that

[digital spear]

Sure and Imu couldve had his hand in them dying out (maybe he killed some of the other families too) but that wouldve been done over the years because it started with 19 CD families ruling and idk what the point would be if his descendants wouldnt remember him anyway

And even if such an erasure happened that would still make it possible for a Nerona to escape and hide until Nami is born in the Oykot Kingdom and Imu finds out his blood is still there and thats why Oykot is destroyed ... honestly this might just be it lol

[frail kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-bart-simpson-grampa-simpson-old-man-hi-bye-gif-8390063

[ashen perch]

no but you will see smh

[hot cairn]

red’s 13 reasons are all Arsal

[fallen meteor]

wait
cows do go Mu

[hardy stratus]

The first mention of Inherited Will

[hot cairn]

*16 reasons

[hardy stratus]

and also titled inherited will

[urban kiln]

16 reasons

yeah

[hardy stratus]

and it's in a volume number associated with Imu

[prisma yacht]

Gottem

[urban lodge]

Sanjuan was cooking

[hardy stratus]

cowpiece guy?

[fallen meteor]

cow piece is real..

[urban lodge]

Yes

[brittle basin]

Who is Will and why are we inheriting him?

[prisma yacht]

Bring sanjuan back

[ashen perch]

Oda likes his number puns, its not like I am making this up

[prisma yacht]

Hi my name is will

[ashen perch]

Gomu = 56 is super prevalent

[fallen meteor]

i dont think he wants to be back

[prisma yacht]

Why are y'all inheriting me tho

[urban kiln]

yeah Im just saying it wouldnt be weird if a family lineage died out it happens all the time. Parent dies before having more kids and son dies from sickness or something. Simple solution

[shadow knoll]

could use some ribeye for dinner tomorrow

[ashen perch]

Roger, WB, BB, BM, all their bounties are based on number puns

[prisma yacht]

I never got to know why he left

[hardy stratus]

yeah the wordplay is a critical aspect of Oda's writing since forever

[ashen perch]

BB's bounty is even straight up San Ko Ko Ro, 3 hearts

I wonder what that could mean

[urban lodge]

He left in solidarity to the user named after the greek philosopher

[fallen meteor]

he didnt want to be here anymore

[urban kiln]

Buggy is Imu's REAL son.... chapter 16....

[hot cairn]

I miss Sanjuan

[prisma yacht]

What the

[ashen perch]

I meannnnnn

[shadow knoll]

when did you become so smart

[ashen perch]

hes sitting on the throne

[hot cairn]

I wonder if Oda had Imu in mind by this time

[hardy stratus]

I would say he did

I am 100% sure he had

[ashen perch]

Oda's very first cover page is actually Luffy standing side by side with an Emu

chapter 2

[hardy stratus]

goda

[wet condor]

This is p much me

Been me for years

[urban kiln]

I dont think Imu was a concept until at earliest alabasta imo but who knows

[rustic coral]

Red do u not know that arsal thinks buggy is davy jones' descendant

[urban kiln]

you're my only remaining kin

[ashen perch]

I DONT

[fallen meteor]

hiding one eye like Imu

[hot cairn]

I’m thinking Jaya when he introduced the Gorosei

[urban lodge]

It's the user Buggy who thinks that

[ashen perch]

I dont believe that Fed, I actually believe the opposite

[hot cairn]

like since the very beginning?

[hardy stratus]

I am 100% sure Imu, Davy and Luffy were part of his initial plan

[urban kiln]

I think thats more reasonable than Nami being Imu's tbh lol

[fallen meteor]

davy jones is buggy's descendant?

[rustic coral]

You still thought buggy was the descendant of someone

[ashen perch]

I think its important that Buggy is NOT related to Davy, for him to fulfill the will of Davy

[urban lodge]

Exactly

[hardy stratus]

agreed

fr

[urban lodge]

He's the real inherited will to Blackbeard's fake pretender ass

[hardy stratus]

[formal wagon]

buggy is part of another important lineage of clowns

[ashen perch]

initially yeah, but I have gotten smarter dw

[hot cairn]

Arsal also believes Shanks is a descendant of Joyboy

[ashen perch]

now that

yeah I do believe that

[formal wagon]

possibly vander decken decendant

[hardy stratus]

oh this is 100% gonna be the case

[wet condor]

That's not a bad thoery

[hardy stratus]

either this or like

[urban lodge]

I like that one

[urban kiln]

chapter 16... foreshadowing.....

[wet condor]

I don't believe it but it's not a particularly bad one lol

[urban lodge]

He is the child of destiny after all...

[wet condor]

Yeah lol

[hardy stratus]

Shanks is a child of destiny 💯

[shadow knoll]

if shanks isn't joyboy's descendant oda might have down syndrome

[urban lodge]

And it's cool because we know he's not Joyboy's actual successor

[fallen meteor]

shanks is beyoncé

[rustic coral]

Do you guys think drake will be relevant ever again

[hot cairn]

yeah I don’t hate that idea honestly

[brittle basin]

[formal wagon]

imu is kind of cabaji coded

[hot cairn]

it’s better than the descendant being Luffy

[sturdy steeple]

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[ashen perch]

「OMEN」

[shadow knoll]

no but his albums will

[hot cairn]

100%, he’s the captain of Sword

[hardy stratus]

The sooner you let go of your expectations of everyone being an underdog, the better

[wet condor]

The thing that keeps me from believing it is I just think Joyboy had any kids really. That's more of a hunch than anything though

[hardy stratus]

because Shanks thing would make this better fr

[hot cairn]

and Sword will be extremely relevant

[ashen perch]

that hand sign is actually very important btw

[hardy stratus]

so good

[brittle basin]

Oda, give me the pen. GIVE ME THE PEN, ODA.

[hardy stratus]

please dont

please don't

[brittle basin]

I'm killing 5 characters at random

[hot cairn]

ayooo

[rustic coral]

Is Mihawk Nami's uncle

[shadow knoll]

he uses feathers to draw

[formal wagon]

who

[ashen perch]

a reference to Mudra

[brittle basin]

it's random!

[hardy stratus]

a mid 30 year old series fan

[brittle basin]

oh shit i got to vote

[hardy stratus]

40

why is writing cover letter so fucking tedious

grrr

[shadow knoll]

40 and reading OP smh

[grand flower]

No I did this before when I was Jesus Christ

[formal wagon]

okay 😦

[ashen perch]

The katakana of Imu (イム) are the radicals that form the kanji 仏 ("buddha"). By Literomancy, they can be consider as "Broken God" and "Broken Buddha". which is relevant because

[grand flower]

Just spreading the seed of my mind

[hot cairn]

[formal wagon]

imu doesnt have a katana or any sword. he uses guns

[hardy stratus]

peak

[urban kiln]

chapter 1016... foreshadowing....

[ashen perch]

unironically yes

[urban lodge]

Cp0 playing reversi...

[hot cairn]

Red is just feeding Arsal’s delusions

[fallen meteor]

this one arsal sent already

[hardy stratus]

cp0 playing domi reversi...

[shadow knoll]

imu's power was written in katakana apparently

what about that

[ashen perch]

forgive the quality cause I didnt make this

[urban kiln]

916.... foreshadowing....

[hardy stratus]

bro is gonna go with every x16x

chapters

replace x with value or nothing

[hardy stratus]

oh time to vote garp again

[ashen perch]

he's just not ready unfortunately, 16 is really that important

[urban kiln]

foreshadowing in 816....

[hardy stratus]

"Score to settle"
Imu has a score to settle with Nika

[shadow knoll]

at this point nami just marries Imu cuz he's rich

[hardy stratus]

Red you are just helping Arsal at this point

[shadow knoll]

which is valid

[urban lodge]

Oh that's Mailbox

O*

[hot cairn]

one of the the only reasons I stay in this server is to see how are people reactions to their theories being wrong or right

[urban kiln]

716.... foreshadowing...

[hot cairn]

[hardy stratus]

is the Earth pfp not enough to know that penny

[urban lodge]

He's not earth anymore

[brittle basin]

update this. you're not earth anymore

[ashen perch]

I havent even gone through these 16s tbh because most of em are irrelevant

[hardy stratus]

the pfp is of earth

[hot cairn]

oh mailbox is an O now

[ashen perch]

I have noted the important ones in my list

[hardy stratus]

Yeah I think Arsal is half correct

[urban lodge]

It might be bugged for you

It's an O now

[trim lily]

[hardy stratus]

there's a significance of 16 to Imu

[urban kiln]

convenient...

[hardy stratus]

but I won't say it's tied to Nami

cuz too early

[shadow knoll]

maybe when he was 16, joyboy left him

[ashen perch]

youre gonna be so shocked when her next bounty is 666M goro...

[hardy stratus]

what's it at

[urban kiln]

616, foreshadowing since this is her only dialogue....

[hardy stratus]

but also isn't that pointless?

[ashen perch]

366M, after a 300M increase from 66M

[hardy stratus]

red you are again helping

😭

[rustic coral]

Eyepatched pirate

[shadow knoll]

6-6-6-67

[hardy stratus]

Arsal's theory is Imu is gonna kidnap nami

[ashen perch]

I mean 666 is THE number of the devil

[urban kiln]

516... foreskin...

[hardy stratus]

no as in

Imu is gonna kidnap Nami now

[trim lily]

goda does it again

[hardy stratus]

so what's the point of updating her bounty

[ashen perch]

oh I dont know if it happens right now tbh

[formal wagon]

DONT BLOW MY COVER

[ashen perch]

feels a bit early for it

[hardy stratus]

if it's gonna happen

[hot cairn]

man I’m so hungry

[hardy stratus]

it's gonna happen now

or it's not

[urban kiln]

wait why does 416's cover page actually help the theory oda stop

[urban lodge]

Sorry

[hot cairn]

my pizza it’s on the way

[rustic coral]

@urban kiln do you think the One Piece will happen before or after the final war

[ashen perch]

yeah I know about this one

[formal wagon]

im sorry to hear that

[urban lodge]

I only knew because of the Carrot vote

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-bounty-rush-nusjuro-ethanbaron-67-gif-8213434539909323439

[formal wagon]

im happy to hear that

[hardy stratus]

Nami is lost child

[urban kiln]

before

[hot cairn]

what about you Fed before or after

[formal wagon]

really good post, thank you

[hot cairn]

too late, I already know it’s you

[rustic coral]

I dont see it happening before

[formal wagon]

sorry to hear that

[rustic coral]

Even tho its what odas been saying

[ashen perch]

Oda likes to position even these requests at the right number

[hot cairn]

it’s a cheese pizza with cheese in the borders. It’s so very good.

[ashen perch]

3.996 is BB's current bounty lol

[hardy stratus]

And Island of the strongest was beehive

which was Rocks

[formal wagon]

like cheese stuffed crust? i love those every once in a while

[hardy stratus]

who is father of BB

[ashen perch]

yeah

[hardy stratus]

GODA

[hot cairn]

the story kinda implies the one piece is needed to end the war

[ashen perch]

96 is also BB's number, it means Ku-Ro

but in his bounty, it also means San Ko Ko Ro

[formal wagon]

3996 is an aesthetic number, like 7x7=49

[hardy stratus]

goda

[hot cairn]

ah that’s what it’s called in English? Yes yes cheese stuffed crust is delicious

[ashen perch]

Oda's not been saying that, exactly...

its a little complicated

[urban kiln]

316... foreshadow...

[ashen perch]

He doesnt say that the story ends with them reaching Laugh Tale

[formal wagon]

unironically

[urban kiln]

216... forehead...

[rustic coral]

Yea but thats where the one piece is

[hot cairn]

that’s not edited???

[ashen perch]

yeah its not

[urban lodge]

Imu shaped...

[fallen meteor]

Oh fuck

[bold sonnet]

Vivi's forehead

[ashen perch]

I know fed, but the exact statement explains it, 1s

[formal wagon]

imu does have a big forehead too doesnt he

[trim lily]

probably

it’s no coincidence

[urban kiln]

I need a single laugh reaction come on I posted 1000 chapters worth of foreshadowing 16 chapters jokes and included the word foreshadowing with each one leading to the forehead.

Im disappointed that my comedy is not rewarded...

[hot cairn]

there you go

[urban kiln]

thank you

[trim lily]

it was a good bit

[hardy stratus]

Okay I'll pity laugh at you brother

🏃‍♂️

[hardy stratus]

[urban kiln]

yayyyyyyy

[ashen perch]

I think theres a difference Fed

[fallen meteor]

This whole red quest of 16 kinda made me believe arsal more damn

[formal wagon]

kind of looks like his hairline is beginning to recede and he's covering it up w/ bangs. Maybe that is the toll that the gorosei were talking about. Maybe everytime imu goes to the surface his hairline receeds another milimeter.

This is my patented theory

[ashen perch]

He says that the tale of finding out what the One Piece is ends when the story ends

[trim lily]

laughtale will be 16 chapters

[formal wagon]

lmk what you think

[rustic coral]

That doesnt explain it

[ashen perch]

they dont necessarily have to find out what the One Piece is

at Laugh Tale

[hot cairn]

I don’t think that’s the message Fed is talking about

Isnt there one where Oda says that it ends after finding the OP?

[ashen perch]

thats the one

now that might sound silly, but what if the One Piece has to be unravelled

[urban kiln]

116 foreshadowing

[trim lily]

wait… imu has horns…

[urban kiln]

[sturdy steeple]

I think the treasure itself is something they will find out at Laugh Tale (at the end)

[hardy stratus]

Goda at it again

[ashen perch]

What if you dont actuallly find out what the One Piece is at Laugh Tale?

[scenic dirge]

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X · May 1, 2026, 3:01 PM

[formal wagon]

zoro kills imu foreshadowing

[hot cairn]

SNAIL THIS MAN

[scenic dirge]

I already knew I’d be snailed when I posted

But I sent anyway

[hot cairn]

and where would they find out?

[formal wagon]

why is there no cheetah emoji

whats the opposite of a snail

[ashen perch]

Pangaea Castle

[fallen meteor]

Lians

[formal wagon]

🦁

[urban kiln]

🐢 🐇

[formal wagon]

rabbit would work if people turtle emojid

[hot cairn]

huh?

[urban kiln]

maybe people should start turtle emojiing

[hot cairn]

where is my pizzaaaaaa

[ashen perch]

You know the Redline destruction theory

[scenic dirge]

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#OnePiece #ワンピース

X · May 1, 2026, 2:07 PM

[ashen perch]

its been an idea for a long time lol

[hot cairn]

I do yes

[scenic dirge]

If I get snailed for this

Im gonna crash out

[hot cairn]

SNAIL THIS MAN

[scenic dirge]

AINT NO WAY

[ashen perch]

the idea that One Piece has to be formed by the destruction of redline at Reverse Mountain and Pangaea

[scenic dirge]

bro

[formal wagon]

what are these characters from

[ashen perch]

Oda could be referring to that

[hot cairn]

what happened to bunchi I wonder

[scenic dirge]

She’s so performative man

And ugly