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Since she's not aging
So it has to be a deeper covenant I think
Garling gets promoted to commander after GV, so the commander position did exist atleast
Supreme commander is unclear, though
I guess I can do that, but only because I like her
Or could it be that they made the position then?
U a real one
i read this as saying like.. shes still level 1
She's an anomaly
Man they dont be doing anything to have a hierarchy like that
if she leveled up in the next few years she would still look the same
I think she already had the highest contract but was still a blade in rank
Commander and Supreme Commander...
it'd be a lot simpler to just agree that Oda's not sticking to a singular number here, and 13 was the current number of individuals that had a covenant tbh
There
Even if you don't believe that the Gorosei have a separate thing going on
(you should)
What’s wrong
Black blades...bleh
Anybody have the viz translation on hand in 1167?
Do we think they follow the big mom path or Shakky path
Or is this the viz lol
Because Oda doesnt do in between unfortunately
Scans! Keep it away! 
You’ll forgive me
Rather than 13 so far
Gorosei get all that and perennial youth
Commanders like Shamrock get to have a mythical creature on top of that
HKs get to have regeneration and use abyss
God's Blades get ???
All this can be associated with a separate covenant...
I don't see anything supporting the creature thing especially when garling doesn't seem to have
we dont know thats a part of his being a commander. it could be just his version of a power like the others' fruit powers
That's just his weapon with a zoan
Hasn't shown it yet
He's no different from spandam
Blades get to be able to travel through the abyss and be first in line to become knights
It's very different from Spandam, who got it from VP
I don't think it's a zoan, same as the elders. It also has black fire, just like Maki
Shamrock very well could've also gotten it via vegapunk
Shamrock's Cerberus is clearly from Imu, like the Gorosei
But that being said yes we don't know how the elders transformation works
It got a title card similar to the Gorosei too
Oda would have given it a name
Yeah, very interesting scenario at least
I think it goes back into Imu's ability to give DF like powers to people
Garling's sword probably does have a creature too I'm sure
We know his sword's name?
Maybe Garling got it as a reward for Rocks?
I don't think we do
We don't
He does become a commander because of Rocks
Nah cause he could still have any other mythical zoan 🙂
What do you mean?
I think that's something the elders would grant, but Imu would be less about rank and more about power. everyone of all ranks is the same to him
Oh I do remember people thinking that BB had a cerebus fruit or something I think
Blackbeard has a lot of oddities, the most obvious of which is the three heads on his flag
Which made it plausible that he had a cerberus fruit that let him have two more fruits
Well it was specifically Cerberus cause of the three skulls
Also, the reason why I find only 7 HKs existing hard to believe is the commander thing, the hierarchy doesn't really make sense with a smaller group
You know what would be funny? Those skulls simply stand for himself and his family? Like one is for Rocks, one is for Eris, and one is for himself. Like they're all together in this
I really think its just one commander but Garling had to be extra and wanted to be called "Supreme Commander and then make his son a regular commander"
Well I feel like he's kinda doing a pisspoor job at carrying on rocks' will if he's fighting the revos for no particular good reason before taking down Imu lol
It works better if there were say, 13 HKs so they can be very cleanly divided as
3 Commanders
9 HKs, 3 each under one Commander
1 Supreme Commander.
3 Commanders and 1 Supreme Commander was the structure of the Beast Pirates too
Oh and BMP
dressrosa kinda
If there's too many HKs I start just questioning why they didn't all raid elbaf and such at once and get it over with
True true
had suit based groups and leaders
3 of them are strong enough to put up a huge fight, 13 would annihilate the country
Busy at MG
I've believed ever since GV that BB isn't actually going to be the one to carry Rocks' will, the same way Ace didn't carry Roger's. Even though both men thought it would be their bloodborn children
Roger's will was picked up by Shanks and then Luffy. Rocks' will will be picked up by Loki.
These questions still exist with like 7 HKs, the simple answer to many of them is that they don't care about the lower realm
Ehh 7 HKs is smaller enough that I see them being individually busy far more often
At 13 I feel like they could take down all the yonko
I still think very highly of the Yonko so I'd disagree
Now all 5 Gorosei, that's difficult to justify
5 Gorosei + 13 HKs together at once I think they win
Especially if people like Shamrocks are as strong as Shanks
We know they have missions on the lower realm, but Shanks also tells that they don't go too often so who knows
Like I question the purpose of the Three Great Powers of the entire series if there's that many powerful holy knights and such
Just 5 Gorosei together are winning against an emperor tbh, I think its really because they prefer to not be involved
tbh just 2
Even Kaido+Big Mom isn't winning against 5 gorosei + 13 HKs + 4 Admirals at the same time
they lost to 3 frauds??
It makes the WG feel very incompetent to me
why would it take close to that many people to beat them
Because you should overwhelm your opponents, not play fair
Well the WG did plan to eventually destroy the world
I wouldn't say they weren't capable of it
They just didn't want to
I'm not understanding why they wouldn't just do that and not have to worry about major opposition for the rest of their days
I guess maintaining some semblance of balance helps keep control
They have so much force to control with that I don't think that maintaining a balance is necessary
A world war is chaos incarnate, thats what would be sparked by them going after an Emperor like that
TBH i think its might just be a contradiction on oda's part
Which they'd rather not have ofc
The Gorosei are all about maintaining the balance, I don't think its inconsistent
The WG runs on the facade that they're keeping the world powers in check, they haven't been interested in breaking that
Going after the Emperors would fuck them over because of Roger
We saw when Whitebeard died, it emboldened pirates to attack his territory now that he was gone
They didn’t have the resources to handle it
but generally i like the hypothetical in universe explanation of them liking the chaos, however from conversations i've had here before i got silly, I think its clear that the story doesn't really support that idea. It treats the pirate era as a great nuisance for the World Government, and they've been in power for 800 or 900 years with the majority of that likely being without a chaotic era like the one we are in, so it would be bizzare if that were their modus operandi
Now imagine all four Emperors leaving power vacuums
The WG can win, doesn't mean they would want to deal with the chaos and the losses that come with it, that's just totally unwise
Yeah true
And on top of that, all of the resources they’d lose to kill the Emperors
It’d be a textbook
What’s it called
Pyrrich victory
Kaido kills 6 HKs and you've got Imu meeting a real creator very soon
But in general, losses as well ofc
The WG has no choice but to accept that emperors exist
For the mere fact that piracy exploded
Get rid of the Emperors and the lil niggas run wild
Yeah I guess the size of the one piece world is pretty huge and they don't have the numbers to maintain all the territory the yonkos do themselves
Too many of them to handle with how much they’d lose getting there
We're already seeing them stretched so thin
I still feel like they should raid whole cake for food lmfao
Tbh that’s a genius idea
Arsal
Idk if WCI would have it either
Yeah
do celestial dragons like venison
They want lobster and filet mignon and Popeyes
Well they're refusing to feed York anything at all and I think York doesn't give a shit
who remembers lobster yamato
✋
That doesn't mean we get the chapter early
It’s a food shortage in general
He outright claims to forgo a meal, not just missing food he wants
It is yeah, but they wouldn't starve if they weren't so spoiled
It’s not cause they’re spoiled though it’s because the Revos are attacking gondolas. They’re actually at risk of starving not just because they’re not eating what they want.
I think they're both low on the foods they want and low on food in general and rationing what they do have
That's meant to be a gag lol, like "wow, ONE WHOLE MEAL?"
Ehh it is funny but also that's how it starts, less and less food
They don't just suddenly go to zero food at once
That's basically a prisoner's diet to these spoiled rich children, the whole thing is being depicted as not actually as bad as they're making it out to be
Consider though that they’re CDs and have never had to miss a meal in their lives and it shows that the situation is worsening
The guy in the top panel forgoes a meal because he got fish and not beef
They’re under siege
And they're still overreacting
I would be distraught too
no, they’re actually at risk of running out of food
We don't know that he didn't eat it, only that he found it embarassing
Consider that these CDs are being rationed for once in their lives after never being denied what they want
That’s just how it’s starting
They haven’t realized how dire the situation is yet
we dont know how much food they have stocked tho
we only know they dont have enough lobster
I can't find that panel but yeah, there's the lobster one too
Enough that they’re being rationed
Where the CD is mad that he's not getting lobster, he sees that as being starved
We will probably cut back at some point and they’ll not be eating any meals
It's clear that it's not just their favorite foods that are getting impacted
Because there is no food getting to the capital
Yeah
You need the covenant to teleport through the abyss and the food doesn't have covenants
Just make the food sign the covenants
if was just about covenant then their clothes wouldn't teleport either
Dragon’s master plan to deny the CDs their lobster
I don't think getting food is complicated for them, they clearly are still getting food
they would just pop in naked like terminator
Yeah but are they going to cover themselves in whipped crea-
Getting food is complicated for them
also we know they can move more objects because we saw summers being teleported along with his couch
Oh right the couch
I dunno what to tell you, Oda's clearly making fun of their priorities here
oda is just dumb
Oda is making fun of them, but again they are genuinely running out of food in general soon
They can't get any from foreign nations or raise food up to the red line
They'll starve to death because they won't get their best meals, these two things can coexist
He’s making fun of their awareness. If anything they simply don’t realize the situation is bad for them. They just see they don’t get lobster or steak when it’s worse than that.
I think it'll tie into Sanji's motto, they'll eat when they're truly starving
And then realize there's nothing left
It’s the only reason this is working lol. They live on a freaking mountain and have to lift up supplies by gondola. The Revos attack the gondolas and suddenly they are running out of food.
Eventually it won’t just be lobster
Eventually it won’t just be one meal they’re missing
They’ll be actually starving
He's still having them be presented with lesser alternative meals, but I do agree that its only going to get worse ofc
fish is common food so they should have plently unlike elite food
I am sure they do, they won't be starving to death anytime soon
bb was telling him to make it worse right
It’ll probably be sooner than we think tbh
I really wonder what Blackbeard is up to right now
Yeah
They’re not even letting York eat lol
To take advantage of the situation while they have a chance
more fire on the bb wg revo deal fire
BB told Lafitte to do something but its not clear
Blackbeard pirate activities are always fascinating
making it worse puts more pressure on the govenrment which weakens their negotiation position re garp
Never are they on screen and I'm not interested in learning everything they're doing
or koby if this was before that
This is post-egghead
Blackbeard might offer them food
It'd be pretty silly if they actually gave BB what he wants
theyre in a rough position and theyre arrogant thats all you need
they do silly shit all the time
killing saturn in front of the VA was silly
I think Elbaf could help on starvation, depends on how we're ending things here
tbh they dont know what happened to saturn
If they really trust BB again 💀
Yeah he kinda just did that
Poisoned by Straw Hat Luffy
Yeah that's what I meant Shuron
Elbaph? What madness do you speak
Twice? Same trick from the same guy too? That is just ridiculous
They're gonna have to trust BB if they want garp back though
They don't
Akainu is just gonna decide to go take Garp back
they dont care about garp but they might care about bb helping with the revos and the siege
SWORD probably will too
theres weird unresolved revo/bb tension in post-ts
Yeah I think the Marines will have their own split off there
From the WG
I don't think the Gorosei are about to give in for Garp of all people
Food is a better deal but still I find it unlikely
I dunno, it all depends on Elbaf's conclusion imo, where that leaves the WG
i think you got resolution of the bb/revo tension, you also characterize bb as not caring about justice/freedom for others, and the current state re being called away indicates a level of urgency/desperation that might motivate a deal with bb
Btw on the abyss thing, Imu could actually do it
He could place a mark on Elbaf's food
And take it all away instantly
man there are so many ways that could work
No one else can, but he can
just have jupeter swallow all the food and tp him back
Honestly the most interesting thing about the Revo/BB conflict is dragon and teach were both shaped by Me Valley
bb destroying the revos when kuma saved his life would be nice
bb vs dragon
That's if he wins though
arsal do you think dragon beats bb
Yeah
in reality or in like an arena?
Dragon is top 2 alive rn with Mihawk
i wonder how many people in this discord have taken a life
What if somebody died because of you and you had no idea
damn that's so unfair that i don't even get to know
Everyone?
On god
Depending on where you start to care about it ofc. But otherwise, everyone starting from conception itself has taken lives and breathing itself kills bacteria every time 🫡
Kang approved message
I wonder how many people in this discord know oda buried one piece in area 51
im glad im not alone in lucci hype any longer
some people here kill hundreds of millions every day
the healthy bacteria in your gut hear you saying this shit and you're done
I have SIBO, I'm fucking done
I also learned that I'm allergic to amoxicillin
Fuck me
Can't even take the antibiotic to kill the bacteria in the gut trying to kill me 😔
you're allergic to penicillin?
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Wtf do they mean by activations
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Like sleeper agent activations?
Yeah, at least that type
They say a word and we all 
(I assume activities typo)
Los Angeles 🛌 😴
backshots 
One Piece dashcon let’s gooo
Activating the sleeper agents
So are they making up little areas for each of the arcs or is it just stuff they're going to cover? Kinda cute idea I guess
Im gonna set sail start a crew and find the one piece tomorrow
Though another point for those who seperate Water 7 and Enies Lobby 😆
they are different tho
Water 7 is enies lobby setup
Some say it should be all one thing like how Wano is one thing
yeah but its in the arcs name
“Wano COUNTRY”
its a country so its not rlly supposed to be seperate arcs like water and enies

blackbeard is NOT thragg
luffy better fr
bbs lowkey a pussy tho
midcible fans
Urouge
Are you sure
If you wish… What society can exist without lies?
My goat
truth city
So many years later and the only bit of relevance this man has had had been in a non canon movie ✌🏻😭
My goat
stampede is canon actually it happens in between elbaf and vira
wtf is vira
destiny
for many, a north
a destination
It's the arc where namis connection to the nerona family gets revealed
He’s going to be revealed as a holy knight
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Vira Nothingburger island
As long as Oda didn't forget about him
That would make no sense x.x
He took out one of big mom's 4 commanders he's goated
He has been absent for long because he was learning mantra
He will be the final boss of grandline 
You get it
I find it hard to believe that Oda will cover the stories and arcs of 10/11 supernovas and then just stop there so I believe this somewhat unironically
I think he'll be there at one of the last islands before laughtale at least
Even among the supernovas, some shine more than others. Like aside from kidd, law, Luffy and their crew. I mean like bege and bonney who had a spotlight for a whole arc
Then there's apoo, hawkins and X drake who were just there. I hope Urogue doesn't get the same treatment
I feel like he would've just been at wano too if he was gonna get that
He's singled out as the last one left now
The fact we don't even have his fruit name is crazy imo
Yeah, we still know very little about him which is strange. So I hope he will be a major player
Definitely leaves me wanting to know more
I think Laffitte's one of the only other interesting characters with an unnamed fruit
Not counting the weirdness around imu/gorosei
I find Laffitte so interesting because he feels genuinely ride or die for blackbeard
I think he has some mind control DF
Plus he's one of the OG members as well
And tbh, im expecting something like a mythical zoan as well because he's supposed to have hypnotized marines but at the same time, he has some zoan ability
Yeah he has some sorta wings
There must have been an angel by my side
🧚
Ew this is so ugly
Nickname is demon sheriff as well so I'm leaning more towards a mythical zoan than a normal one
Here it is on iOS
I would definitely agree especially as they have multiple confirmed mythical zoans already
It's the era of mythical zoan in one piece
Remember when Logias were the boss 
We've gotten like 4 logias post timeskip I think
How demure
Logia fans can have fraudbull
Hey uh guys
Can any of yall send me manga pages in dms i cant buy manga its too expensive in our country and it doesnt exists in our country
Aramaki
Gangster Gastino
Swamp man
Who's the 4th one?
Monet and Karasu
Ah right
Live karasu erasure

hot
@stark patrol
?????????????????
HIII UNC
heyo
GUESS WHAT
you finally managed to eat a full pizza by yourself?
GO AWAY FR0NSEN
unc did you like it...
I was disappointed. I was hoping you'd make actual progress
UNC I'LL EAT THE PIZZA 
Hiii
I like them both
Dead chat 😔
Dead chat 😔
Dead chat 😔
You must think you’re so funny
Have you guys seen logan paul getting dragged on Twitter
One piece fans are merciless against him
Ultra rare good twitter moment
it's a break week
of course we are like that
Yeah but he’s getting ratiod left and right
not to mention he has a record of doing things for money
Once an asshole, always an asshole.
instead of passion
Yeah
No such thing as bad engagement I guess
Only dorks care about him
I literally try to ignore anything on him because it feels like a child going " look at me!! Give me attention!! Oh you don't like me I'll double down!"
Anyone who has seen LA is not a OP fan

I bet he reads manga the wrong way oh wait I bet he's never held a manga other than for a photo for social media
I'm more sad that he didn't call him lawffy
Cus than my hate would intensifies 50 fold
What are you guys doing for spoilers and stuff for new chapters?
I'm doing
100 pushups
100 situps
100 squats
AND A 10 KILOMETER RUN
Every single day
In order to prepare myself for the spoilers
Wbu?
hookers and cocaine
No wonder you have such a strong build
We will see
Aura
We all love one piece
I like doing this workout
Minus the 10 KM run
Idk what a KM is
Its like 10k burgers
Put this in Caribbean
Idk who ometer is but I’ll do what I must
Kilo meter
Chapter week!
Acktually now that the server is official only, chapter week doesn't start until Monday
Well no
Spoilers will still exist
1KM = 8,771 Cheese burgers
They can’t take me down
are you a logia
red ass chat
this the only true red
Logeez nuts
At least we're all a different red
I feel like Yall tryna call me fat
I’ll have you know I’m beefy
Damn I wanted to make that joke but I got in the shower
I should be more like Rokaya
We need more rokayas in the world
I haven’t showered since last year 😹
I just left the shower get outwashed
We need more demon snakes in the world. Not so funny now, is it?
Yea my name isnt as funny as yours
Golden Bonney let’s go

i cant seem to get a golden card
Who you voting for
Big silver
Everyone knows blue roles are the most quality members of the server
powerscalers when the tortoise beat the hare: grrrrr arggggghhhh jshdgeigdjxhdgdfd *pulls out hair* the tortoise can’t outrun the hare bc it’s literally supposed to be slower. why did the author make the tortoise win. this is terrible storytelling fix if now . arrgggeghhhhhhhh
What's the exact reasoning behind the discord not posting unofficial links anymore? Getting hit with lawsuits or is it something story related?
they got striked
We got hit by a copyright strike. And recently, the one pace server, which was even bigger than this one at around 600k members, got taken down, so it was necessary for our safety
twin why one pace bigger than one piece
Another discord server of op?
One pace is the faster way to watch op
One Pace is a super edit of the series
It's for one pace they cut down episode timing to improve pacing
It’s the ppl who made it
Yeah what they said
Oh
Not even the one that hurts the most
Blox piece is like 6 times bigger than us
Yea whatever
i think it is roblox?
When did blox piece get taken down?
With One Pace, Discord was a big part of how they fans their updates on it so ofc it was massive
It didn't lol
It's funny cause that game is a huge copyright violation right
Pretty much yeah but I guess they don't care
kind of, but I guess it uses generic names
Is gpo still up
Pretty sure it used to be called Blox Piece
One Pace serves a purpose
I didn't know it got renamed to Blox Fruits, I assume that was to avoid getting shut down I guess
Blox fruits is so ass
Wait are scans still coming out or are
This stopped to
What are these names bruh 
tcb still should i guess
They'll continue to exist, though leakers do seem to be scared of Shueisha
am i the only one who refuses to watch One Pace
Me too
I love one piece
like as bad as the official anime pacing can get, i just don't trust a fan edit to be better
U don’t watch it at all?
i just watch the official anime :p
haha
I watched one piece only normally
What the heck is One Pace?
I'd rather people just read the manga or not watch at all till Wit Piece comes out than that
Edit of one piece to make it shortest
Shorter
i don't rlly trust the Wit adaptation to be well-paced either
They cut out repeat flashbacks and non canon scenes and extended scenes
I will watch. The one piece when I’m like 40
i'm scared that they will overcorrect and make it faster than it needs to be
No amount of super editing is making it a good enough adaptation, just stick with the manga
tbh i think the current Elbaf pacing is perfect
Nahh
Oh yeah recently its been much better
1 chapter still so slow
u got a problem with the pacing?
But you're not saving Dressrosa with a super edit
u want 3 chapters a week
Yes
it's obv faster than something like Dressrosa without being super fast
let me tell you something buddy
I want a chapter every day
oda should become a twitter artist
release a page a day
if shuesiha gave oda permission he would give people 30 page chapters weekly
Shueshisa some hoes
Me too but its reassuring that Oda's involved at least, feel like he'd be able to guide them better if he has any amount of control
Shueisha need to let oda do what he wants
hmm if he's involved i feel better
That'd be bad for him
bad for him and would cost them a lot more money
i think they already kinda do lol
Longer chapters is bad for him
He says he can draw 30 pages every week but the guy doesn't understand that he'd be in trouble if he did that
He'd burn out too quickly
he already takes a break every 3 weeks or so, which is reasonable imo
Yeahh
Yeah they’d have to redo it from scratch
@placid rover listen to this gif pls
Oda was even the one to suggest that they should do a remake
He said, and I quote " this ts is so trash" upon revisiting some older arcs under Toei
“Fix that bullshit Toei did to my masterpiece”
I’d love a Yonko saga remake man
They say Oda is “involved” in any one piece content to lend it credibility. How much he’s actually involved is a mystery.
I believe it with the remake tbh
The most important thing is to understand what the original author, Eiichiro Oda, wants, and to find the best way to present what he wishes to show or express. By working closely with him, we will achieve the final result. This work is very close to Oda’s heart, and he knows it better than anyone; his vision will guide us.
but as it is a remake, we dont have to worry about bad pacing i guess?
Read the full post smh
also is it just east blue saga?
Yea and they said that they're committed long term to the project
that's good
oh god. if they're """"streamlining"""" it for a """"""modern audience"""" then im really worried
i like dark chocolates
Oda went to wit studio and said this word by word:
|| PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ||
However, since it started a long time ago, the new generation, accustomed to modern productions, does not necessarily feel the same excitement toward the older animation.
this is the part that worries me 😭
OP will finally get a good adaptation outside of Films Strong World through Gold 🥲
they mean stuff like widescreen, potentially more flashy animation in some cases, much better pacing
they're not changing anything related to the story
They're just talking about the pace and the animation here mainly, nothing else
also its important i think, to understand that these concerns don't exist as much in the very start of the anime
i think it's pretty good right at the very start, art, animation, and even the pace is okay
Though with Oda's involvement, I wonder if he gets ideas to make changes to the story too
but once you progress into some of the later arcs, it's unbelievably slow
It wouldn't surprise me if he has additions in mind atleast
Over the years, fans have built their own vision of the story, and we want to create something that goes beyond that imagination.
Egghead is a phenomenal adaptation
the pacing is still slow
people really need to put some respect on the recent one piece anime
it's really good near the end
and even mid way through
more than 2 chapters in some episodes
I think they also said that the long term goal is for The One Piece to become the definitive One Piece, which was interesting
I imagine they did just mean the definitive anime adaptation though
I can’t take any one piece anime seriously when the art changes like every episode
I haven’t been able to really watch an entire episode of the anime since G 5 came out, the laugh is one of the most annoying things I’ve come across in fiction
you mean 3 times per episode
It really represents how Imu feels I’m sure
its not a slog, but ideally it should be 2-3 chapters like other series
ofc that won't happen but js
wit piece will save us
Very subjective reason to hate the laugh, doesn't really make the anime bad. One Piece looks better than most seasonal adaptations. Also the art doesn't change, it's consistent in general.
What "changes" is when a big flashy scene happens where a key animator lets their personal style shine through.
I feel like hating the laugh is a problem with gear 5 in general
idk i feel like many modern anime adaptations are paced schizophrenically fast, and i don't want that to happen to One Piece
you can't reasonably expect the anime to not have luffy laugh
I dont think you need to worry about that. I think they'll do a good job with The One Piece
I didn’t say the anime was bad because the laugh, I said I haven’t been able to watch it since the laugh
well presumably you havent been able to watch it because you find it insufferable = bad for you
The Laugh good
thats what im assuming
And I love G5 just in the manga
unless you mean you like the anime but still cant watch it
which wouldnt make a lot of sense
but valid reason for Illy
I dunno, as long as they don't exceed 4 per episode in the early parts and 3 after like Water 7, the pacing wouldn't be too fast
Also I have 0 hope for The One Piece
Demon you’re coming to a lot of conclusions
I was hoping Elbaph would be 2-3 chapters an episode after the break
I mean for one someone not liking an aspect doesn’t mean they think the entire thing is bad
one piece is a love story
Might be my biasness towards early Toei Piece
Its a valid concern but I don't believe they'd go beyond it tbh, because that would hurt the point of doing the remake
i disagree because the pacing in the manga itself is faster now, and the 1 chapter per episode format they have now lets them add downtime and extend fights, etc.
I hate the laugh and it makes me unable to watch it, but it does not mean I’m saying the entire production is bad
very subjective reason to hate the laugh
Well pretty much any dislike to the anime is subjective
If money wasn't a concern, I would want different studio to touch different arcs
Wit for Romance Dawn
I can see where Illy is coming from, i despise Trebols laugh & the "hey hey" for example
maybe some other for Alabasta Saga
Some other for Skypiea
some other for Water 7
some other for Sabaody
Even the densest chapters of the series cannot be reasonably adapted into only one episode without dragging, I think you're too used to Toei
some other for Impeldown-MF
It makes any scene with Trebol horrible to watch for me
I dropped soul eater because I hated one of the mcs voice
In some episodes, there's not enough content in the manga for 1 ep per chapter so it just ends up slogging unfortunately
when there is enough content its nice tho icl
If you watched you already know who I’m talking about 
In best cases, its like 1.5 chapters per ep is best for modern OP
this reminds me of black clover
For some it would require 2
any more would be fast for OP
Even tho this is a stupid af metric
I would say disliking it due to the pacing is a pretty objective reason. But I don't wanna get into that kind of stuff, I was responding originally to the art changing stuff though.
Because I personally feel like it's an overblown issue with the anime. Maybe it feels like that cause of how many high quality cuts there are in the anime, where the animators have their own style.
Like, I don't think it's possible for the anime to have vincent chansard or ishizuka's style all the way throughout. Those are just very flashy cuts that go viral on social media and are hype to watch.
3.5-4 for East Blue to Water 7
3-3.5 for Enies Lobby to Impel Down
2-2.5 for Marineford to now
That's perfectly fine I think
Egghead is pretty good. For some reason I said that with the movies all being their own thing, the anime being its own thing, and the LA as well
you mean at the end of Egghead? 😄
maybe. i just prefer slower pacing to faster pacing tbh 😭
wtf is wrong with my internet
yeah but it's still more than a chapter in most of the episodes
Saying you dont like something about Luffy? They wont let you get away with that here
😭
Egghead did do 2 chapters per ep near the end yeah? I haven't seen it but people said that it still felt slower sometimes
God damn Luffy glazers
Luffy is my favorite character btw
my favorite character is zoro
Mailbox gets away with it literally every day
I think people underestimate what normal pacing looks like
I don’t know any of who those are. And I don’t know enough about animation to say the art is actually changing. But the art does look different whenever I’ve watched an episode, there are different cuts, different styles almost every time. At least in my experience.
So I just stick to the manga
Ready for WIT Piece
There's no normal pacing...
You are very very valid for this
Like I said, You're just too used to Toei
but sadly its an issue with web gen animators Illy
WIT Piece and the live action are what I looked forward to currently
translation: op fans are too used to slop
Flashy cuts made by animators with their own distinct styles, thats why it feels like it's always changing
go watch better series
I mean the average pacing of an anime
There's no "average" in that senae
shows would have different view of average from different era
ashita No Joe's pacing would be crapped on by current anime viewers but then it was very good
the one piece anime is definitely from an era of slop though
Oh yeah I mean right now ofc, different eras are... different
Haven’t watched the Joe anime
faster-paced doesn't necessarily mean better though lol. something like Bleach TYBW for example is way wayyyy too fast-paced, which is a problem
long running anime were always very slow
back in the day
one piece is just a relic from the past
but atleast they're making some changes to slightly improve that recently
It's literally OP like pacing but spends even more time on single cuts
Did the anime of Ashita No Joe run while the manga was ongoing?
Tbf Kubo was being rushed
Don’t think so?
I dont watch the anime much anymore but its probably worst with the yelling
Uhh yes
if i have to choose between slow slop and fast slop i pick slow slop
Okay yeah that's out of necessity then lol
Manga started from 68 to 73
I'll watch clips and it feels like the actors have to stretch out streams slightly longer than they should
i mean the anime, but it's true for the manga too tbh
anime was 70 in first season
I'm sure it wouldn't be paced like that even then if they had the whole thing to do
Not really.
Take other anime from that era
they have that slowness
Is there a reason why they don’t just stick with one?
The anime added stuff so idk how it can be called rushed, the manga was though yeah
without going too much into #other-series territory, there's a lot more that could be fleshed out, and some small things are cut as well
Sometimes people are like “oh they’re going to get these top tier animators for this episode” and that just makes me know I won’t watch it
For current generation of viewers, anything which isn't constant action is slow af
Probably just something the one piece production wants. Seemingly they give more freedom to individuals than other productions. I personally find it to be a good thing.
That's the 'normal' Pacing
so many high quality scenes, that all look distinct
Absorb One Piece from a series of films that are just highlights of episodes cut together like the original Mobile Suit Gundam series trilogy
that you are advocating for
To some extent yeah, I'm not saying they'd be paced like Jujutsu Kaisen but they'd be faster if they could be
Is oda on a break rn?
I really enjoyed like the water 7 to Enies lobby animation the best
Tiktok anime
Usually there will be a process called corrections if the director wants to reel stuff into a specific style. Though they may not always do that or be as strict
they start spazzing tf out when its an exposition episode in their well paced series
It was so good consistent and simple
the most recognizable one is definitely Vincent Chansard as of recently though, but his style is a lot of slow camera orbits
They can still make it coherent
Dragon Ball, Bleach, Naruto, its all out of the same necessity, none of these series actually wanted to be slow.
Toei also doesn't want One Piece to be slow, they have to do it
Is what Illy meant
It is coherent though, i feel like that's going too far
we have had this convo regarding jjk multiple times in os
Is Vincent the person that’s controversial on twitter
no
me and Illy hate jjk s3's visuals
Tbh it’s bad practice and there’s a reason we see people moving out of that nowadays
god i hope the anime industry moves away from tiktok pacing someday soon
for same reason as for OP
But they got to make that sweet money on the cheap
Tbh with One Piece, i like the slow pace.. i feel it helps with the world building that the series has compared to many others
Can't happen
you say that but have you ever tasted one piece with fast pace?
maybe you'd like it more
Romance Dawn to EL pacing is perfect for OP
Does the slow pace add to the content or does it just make it slower?
I see The One Piece as being similar to the Jojo's adaptation, they have nearly all of the series now, they won't have to worry about catching up just like David Productions didn't
the slow pace doesnt add anything imo
How it should be
This is a good test tbh
I wouldn't care tbh
it just makes it hard to watch some arcs
ehhh depends. a lot of people do take issue with how fast-paced stuff like JJK or the recent Shaman King anime are
Thats a different thing to me
I'm sorry but everything from fishman island to ... middle of wholecake island is completely unwatchable in the anime
‼️
JJK is also inherently just faster
When I think of One Piece being slow I think of the sumo fight
I mean we have read it?
And we can get an idea of how scenes should be paced for us
the mid part of skypiea in the anime felt like I was dragging my feet through quick sand
Not just a low amount of things happening
One Piece is just not the kind of story that should be rushed ‼️
Its just not rushed though
No one says that's good
like at all
People usually say that about Dressrosa
I dont mind a slow pace as in things slowly occur
But skypiea felt the slowest to me
I dont think it translates directly. An action manga chapter and a manga chapter with a lot of text will be treated completely differently by the adaptation in terms of runtime
It's 3 Minutes of "trying to fall"
skypeas
It can rush just a little bit
I think of things being dragged out past their limit
Well i'd like to think that a slower pace = Oda has more time etc to flesh things out if/when he wants too
Idk maybe its just me & i'm thinking about it differently
oh we're talking about the anime here
no one's saying Dressrosa or Wano didn't have their issues
the manga isn't slow though
despacito
The mangas actually been kinda fast recently
the manga has been at a steady pace for a while now, and it doesn't feel slow imo
The point is
With reading the manga, we can have an idea of how the anime should be paced
The slow pace started in enies lobby. If you think skypiea is slow, then it's also slow in the manga
Elbaf escalated rather quickly if you pretend the flashback didn’t exist
Don't you play the manga chapter like a video in your head when reading?
It's not because of the anime
Skill issue
one piece is was never slow,it was just long(manga),not anime
Onigashima and Egghead were the only times I felt that the slower pacing could add something sometimes, but that's not the case for 99% of the series lol
Even the parts that benefited from being extended are surrounded by horrifically slow parts that would want you to stop watching
I'm responding to their claim of preferring the slow pace because it helps with world building and stuff, and my point mainly was that slow pacing for the anime doesn't really add anything at all
The end part of an arc is always slow
faster pace would be better
In early OP when it was adventure-ish
it adds the scenic worldbuilding by just having the visuals linger
early op isn't slow by today's standards
No it doesnt...
do you guys realize that for the longest time, a one piece episode was 0.7 chapters
those slice of life moments benefit from the slow pace
Watch any good slice of life anime and not tik tok anime pls
I'm sure they'd still linger, just not any more than necessary
does that include filler
Dont try to pull that on me, I watched Frieren
Frieren is tiktok anime
I am talking Natsume or Mushishi
crazy
I’m still appalled that the one pace server got nuked
this is the pace of early one piece btw. It's a night and day difference to current one piece.
So you can't really use early one piece to make your claim for today's one piece
That’s a little sad
they are totally different
I think you and me are in different convo
i mean the difference between a current One Piece chater and an early chapter is also night & day
I am in "early OP is perfect pace"
Well I wouldn't say that the difference is that big lol
and this is true too but I don't think they scale linearly
one piece is not slow
Just download the entire server, boom easy fix
what
there's a huge difference that you cant use "this is what jjk uses" or "this is what bleached used"
im sure some nerd could do it
since one OP chapter is as long as 4 bleach chapter or 2-3 jjk chapters
bleached
If an early One Piece episode can do 3-3.5 chapters, later ones will be able to do 2-2.5
typo
You're saying that a slower pace helps by having shots linger for longer. While I think that's a good thing, it doesn't really translate into a "slow pace can be a good thing" discussion for today's one piece.
Because we've gone from 2-3 chapters to 0.7 chapters an episode.
1.5 to 2.25
BIG 3
jjk
solo leveling
rezero
We've seen 1.5, its not enough
1.5 might not have been enough for those chapters
there are some where its enough
in those I would say 2-2.25
Also early one piece is unforgivable for what it did to Zeff's story
unemployed people talking about production time:
2 is minimum imo
I think most would agree that the Imu attack on elbaf in the last chapters would only be done justice if fast paced. But that would never happen since it's an entire chapter
does that include potential additions that the anime could make to the story (such as extending fight scenes or downtime moments)
for most sections of the story
Hey I’m at work right now
I’m very much employed smh
work then
The only time low chapter is good is when oda does a short ass fight and to fill out the episode toei extend the fight
well unemployed
I don't think they really have to, also fight scenes can go by pretty quickly
layoff
getting paid for talking about one piece
I shall snitch 
i feel so hatefull
People don't talk about One Piece during work hours? Tf do they do then?
Tbh I haven't seen it but trusted sources (my friend) told me that Egghead's last few episodes did 2 chapters and it was still slow in some parts lol
yeah i disagree with that. i think an anime adaptation has to necessarily go beyond simply adapting the manga panels as they are, but also this is even more true for the final saga, since the pacing of the manga itself leaves a lot that could be extended by the anime
This is what he said, it was better but it still didn't feel enough
Just pretty good, at best
It's because toei focuses on dramatic effects like slow mo and reactions
wit piece is gonna skip 1 panel and all hell is gonna break loose
No matter how it’s done ppl will complain fr
pacing discussions about the one piece anime have been an unproductive endeavour for quite some time. That's why I almost never bring it up personally.
When I say i love the egghead anime, it mostly means how they handled the scenes individually. The pacing is and will always be dogshit for this anime most likely lol.
But still, I think people should watch the anime, with wano and egghead
and now elbaf
i think they'll probably enjoy it
just with a huge pacing warning upfront
Egghead was fucking amazing
scene wise I don't think wit piece is surpassing ts
Par a few episodes
small costumes
Wym
yeah
they probably won't
Is early one piece popular? I think during initial days they had to pull audience so they might be desperate to do the best.
What is your opinion on how the studio feels when animating? They are trying to do the best? Or they think they still get audience if we make cost cuts?
Some bonney/kuma scenes are just perfection
I think they were just trying to do their best work for a long time early on
and then they kinda put it on the back burner for a while
it was only after the explosive popularity that they gave it more priority
Four chapters in one episode might make me cry from joy
Easier for people to consume anime than manga
But that doesn't mean adding new content though, that is done by giving a creative spin to the original content. The right direction, animation, music, pacing, etc is so so much more important than inserting in a meaningless scene that does nothing outside of just wasting your time. What did the dream sequence between Kaido v Luffy before he fell down from Onigashima add to that episode? Nothing, they wouldn't even do that if they didn't need to pad. This can be said about so many of the extended sequences lol, they're doing it out of a necessity.
So for a long time they animated it as a casual series?
yeah
I remember a friend of mine telling me she was anime only when Dressrosa was airing
early one piece has a soul
One piece i feel like was animated as a "its there. It aint crazy but its there"
My heart broke for her
which it lost after some time
i think it was around the end of skypiea
where it started to feel different
This was when i said fuck this & got caught up with the manga
Counterpoint: ep 1015 benefitted from adding the scene
east blue in the original anime, no one pace, no fanmade remaster whatever
still a great adaptation
I think i first noticed the filler discrepancy during Doffy's God Thread
only thing it does wrong is change the zeff backstory
Yeah defo. They switched up the actual style from ep 207
Like luffy broke through it easily in the manga
lol I started reading after Skypeia because trying to skip the filler made what I was seeing way too confusing
those water color backgrounds, with consistent character designs
different skintones for characters
and genuinely beautiful animation and composition
early one piece anime was awesome

Man Dressrosa anime was so bad before that I was too checked out to even get mad. The botchy animation and art made me stop watching the anime entirely
But it was done by 4kids
So trash
Between Zoro running in circles for 25 episodes, all the Tontatta shit & Trebols laugh + "hey hey".... FUCK DRESSROSA
So dogshit bro
that was just the english dub
no one watched that
i am so poor
My favorite animation in one piece is episode of east blue. I think it's the best suited style
I truly would not ever watch it again it was pure misery
Dressrossa made me semi read the manga
I feel like it contributed to people not hearing about one piece for a bit tho
i actually think early one piece anime looks far better compared to episode of east blue
Like Toei was mad at us for watching the shit
No hate to Trebols VA, he clearly did a good job as a villain to make me hate him so much but it genuinely made me want to make myself deaf
episode of east blue is good though
i usually prefer dubbed anime to subbed ngl
Its hard to maintain it for 25 years every week.
Probably the effect of not going seasonal and have to work on it every week made them think of it as a casual release at some point. Like a daily routine thing.
React mute speed run
the Funimation dub is great imo




