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lofty fern
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Yes?

keen falcon
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Since she's not aging

thick mango
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shes only level 1 people comment on it right

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they say like shes only a blade

keen falcon
ashen perch
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Garling gets promoted to commander after GV, so the commander position did exist atleast

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Supreme commander is unclear, though

lofty fern
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I guess I can do that, but only because I like her

keen falcon
wraith mantle
thick mango
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i read this as saying like.. shes still level 1

urban lodge
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She's an anomaly

distant vine
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Man they dont be doing anything to have a hierarchy like that

thick mango
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if she leveled up in the next few years she would still look the same

urban lodge
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I think she already had the highest contract but was still a blade in rank

distant vine
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Commander and Supreme Commander...

ashen perch
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it'd be a lot simpler to just agree that Oda's not sticking to a singular number here, and 13 was the current number of individuals that had a covenant tbh

lofty fern
ashen perch
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Even if you don't believe that the Gorosei have a separate thing going on

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(you should)

grand flower
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What’s wrong

lofty fern
keen falcon
prisma idol
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Do we think they follow the big mom path or Shakky path

keen falcon
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Or is this the viz lol

prisma idol
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Because Oda doesnt do in between unfortunately

distant vine
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👮

lofty fern
prisma idol
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This is viz

keen falcon
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I think 13 exclusive is meant to be a cap

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13 who can

grand flower
keen falcon
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Rather than 13 so far

ashen perch
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Gorosei get all that and perennial youth
Commanders like Shamrock get to have a mythical creature on top of that
HKs get to have regeneration and use abyss
God's Blades get ???

All this can be associated with a separate covenant...

keen falcon
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I don't see anything supporting the creature thing especially when garling doesn't seem to have

thick mango
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we dont know thats a part of his being a commander. it could be just his version of a power like the others' fruit powers

keen falcon
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That's just his weapon with a zoan

ashen perch
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Hasn't shown it yet

keen falcon
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He's no different from spandam

lofty fern
ashen perch
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It's very different from Spandam, who got it from VP

lofty fern
keen falcon
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Shamrock very well could've also gotten it via vegapunk

ashen perch
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Shamrock's Cerberus is clearly from Imu, like the Gorosei

keen falcon
ashen perch
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It got a title card similar to the Gorosei too

lofty fern
ashen perch
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Just "Cerberus"

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Not "Inu Inu Model Cerberus"

keen falcon
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Yeah, very interesting scenario at least

lofty fern
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I think it goes back into Imu's ability to give DF like powers to people

ashen perch
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Garling's sword probably does have a creature too I'm sure

wet condor
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We know his sword's name?

lofty fern
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Maybe Garling got it as a reward for Rocks?

ashen perch
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I don't think we do

keen falcon
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We don't

ashen perch
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He does become a commander because of Rocks

quiet ice
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I do love that Cerberus ended the BB stuff

keen falcon
wet condor
lofty fern
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I think that's something the elders would grant, but Imu would be less about rank and more about power. everyone of all ranks is the same to him

wet condor
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Oh I do remember people thinking that BB had a cerebus fruit or something I think

keen falcon
wet condor
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Because of the three souls theory surrounding him and all that

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Yea

keen falcon
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Which made it plausible that he had a cerberus fruit that let him have two more fruits

quiet ice
ashen perch
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Also, the reason why I find only 7 HKs existing hard to believe is the commander thing, the hierarchy doesn't really make sense with a smaller group

lofty fern
lofty fern
keen falcon
ashen perch
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Oh and BMP

thick mango
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dressrosa kinda

keen falcon
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If there's too many HKs I start just questioning why they didn't all raid elbaf and such at once and get it over with

ashen perch
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True true

thick mango
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had suit based groups and leaders

keen falcon
ashen perch
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Its the usual structure really, Shanks kinda does too

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Luffy to some extent

keen falcon
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And why they don't participate in buster calls and such

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Like egghead

lofty fern
ashen perch
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These questions still exist with like 7 HKs, the simple answer to many of them is that they don't care about the lower realm

keen falcon
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Ehh 7 HKs is smaller enough that I see them being individually busy far more often

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At 13 I feel like they could take down all the yonko

ashen perch
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I still think very highly of the Yonko so I'd disagree

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Now all 5 Gorosei, that's difficult to justify

keen falcon
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5 Gorosei + 13 HKs together at once I think they win

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Especially if people like Shamrocks are as strong as Shanks

lofty fern
keen falcon
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Like I question the purpose of the Three Great Powers of the entire series if there's that many powerful holy knights and such

ashen perch
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Just 5 Gorosei together are winning against an emperor tbh, I think its really because they prefer to not be involved

formal wagon
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tbh just 2

keen falcon
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Even Kaido+Big Mom isn't winning against 5 gorosei + 13 HKs + 4 Admirals at the same time

formal wagon
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they lost to 3 frauds??

keen falcon
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It makes the WG feel very incompetent to me

formal wagon
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why would it take close to that many people to beat them

keen falcon
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Because you should overwhelm your opponents, not play fair

ashen perch
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Well the WG did plan to eventually destroy the world

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I wouldn't say they weren't capable of it

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They just didn't want to

keen falcon
ashen perch
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I guess maintaining some semblance of balance helps keep control

keen falcon
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They have so much force to control with that I don't think that maintaining a balance is necessary

ashen perch
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A world war is chaos incarnate, thats what would be sparked by them going after an Emperor like that

formal wagon
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TBH i think its might just be a contradiction on oda's part

ashen perch
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Which they'd rather not have ofc

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The Gorosei are all about maintaining the balance, I don't think its inconsistent

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The WG runs on the facade that they're keeping the world powers in check, they haven't been interested in breaking that

grand flower
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Going after the Emperors would fuck them over because of Roger

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We saw when Whitebeard died, it emboldened pirates to attack his territory now that he was gone

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They didn’t have the resources to handle it

formal wagon
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but generally i like the hypothetical in universe explanation of them liking the chaos, however from conversations i've had here before i got silly, I think its clear that the story doesn't really support that idea. It treats the pirate era as a great nuisance for the World Government, and they've been in power for 800 or 900 years with the majority of that likely being without a chaotic era like the one we are in, so it would be bizzare if that were their modus operandi

grand flower
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Now imagine all four Emperors leaving power vacuums

ashen perch
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The WG can win, doesn't mean they would want to deal with the chaos and the losses that come with it, that's just totally unwise

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Yeah true

grand flower
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It’d be a textbook

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What’s it called

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Pyrrich victory

ashen perch
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Kaido kills 6 HKs and you've got Imu meeting a real creator very soon

grand flower
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Or however you spell it

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They’d just be fuckint the world uo

ashen perch
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But in general, losses as well ofc

grand flower
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The WG has no choice but to accept that emperors exist

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For the mere fact that piracy exploded

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Get rid of the Emperors and the lil niggas run wild

keen falcon
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Yeah I guess the size of the one piece world is pretty huge and they don't have the numbers to maintain all the territory the yonkos do themselves

grand flower
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Too many of them to handle with how much they’d lose getting there

ashen perch
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We're already seeing them stretched so thin

keen falcon
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I still feel like they should raid whole cake for food lmfao

grand flower
ashen perch
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The Celestials have food

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They don't have the food they want

grand flower
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Arsal

ashen perch
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Idk if WCI would have it either

grand flower
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Theyre like children

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Interesting

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Very interesting

ashen perch
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Yeah

placid rover
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do celestial dragons like venison

grand flower
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They want lobster and filet mignon and Popeyes

keen falcon
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Well they're refusing to feed York anything at all and I think York doesn't give a shit

formal wagon
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who remembers lobster yamato

formal wagon
hasty sable
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Wdym they have food

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They’re being starved out

west axle
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this week we getting the cha[ter early

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cause there will be 2 weeks break

keen falcon
ashen perch
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Look at this

hasty sable
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It’s a food shortage in general

keen falcon
# ashen perch

He outright claims to forgo a meal, not just missing food he wants

ashen perch
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It is yeah, but they wouldn't starve if they weren't so spoiled

hasty sable
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It’s not cause they’re spoiled though it’s because the Revos are attacking gondolas. They’re actually at risk of starving not just because they’re not eating what they want.

keen falcon
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I think they're both low on the foods they want and low on food in general and rationing what they do have

ashen perch
keen falcon
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Ehh it is funny but also that's how it starts, less and less food

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They don't just suddenly go to zero food at once

ashen perch
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That's basically a prisoner's diet to these spoiled rich children, the whole thing is being depicted as not actually as bad as they're making it out to be

hasty sable
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Consider though that they’re CDs and have never had to miss a meal in their lives and it shows that the situation is worsening

ashen perch
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The guy in the top panel forgoes a meal because he got fish and not beef

hasty sable
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They’re under siege

ashen perch
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And they're still overreacting

placid rover
hasty sable
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no, they’re actually at risk of running out of food

keen falcon
hasty sable
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Consider that these CDs are being rationed for once in their lives after never being denied what they want

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That’s just how it’s starting

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They haven’t realized how dire the situation is yet

dense haven
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we dont know how much food they have stocked tho

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we only know they dont have enough lobster

keen falcon
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Even laffitte says the CDs are going to starve at this rate

ashen perch
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I can't find that panel but yeah, there's the lobster one too

hasty sable
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Enough that they’re being rationed

ashen perch
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Where the CD is mad that he's not getting lobster, he sees that as being starved

hasty sable
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We will probably cut back at some point and they’ll not be eating any meals

keen falcon
hasty sable
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Because there is no food getting to the capital

dense haven
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why doesnt the hk just teleport food

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are they stupid

hasty sable
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Yeah

keen falcon
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You need the covenant to teleport through the abyss and the food doesn't have covenants

ashen perch
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That's what I was saying

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Their favorite stuff is being impacted

placid rover
dense haven
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if was just about covenant then their clothes wouldn't teleport either

hasty sable
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Dragon’s master plan to deny the CDs their lobster

ashen perch
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I don't think getting food is complicated for them, they clearly are still getting food

dense haven
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they would just pop in naked like terminator

keen falcon
hasty sable
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Getting food is complicated for them

dense haven
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also we know they can move more objects because we saw summers being teleported along with his couch

keen falcon
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Oh right the couch

ashen perch
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I dunno what to tell you, Oda's clearly making fun of their priorities here

dense haven
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oda is just dumb

keen falcon
# keen falcon

Oda is making fun of them, but again they are genuinely running out of food in general soon

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They can't get any from foreign nations or raise food up to the red line

ashen perch
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They'll starve to death because they won't get their best meals, these two things can coexist

hasty sable
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He’s making fun of their awareness. If anything they simply don’t realize the situation is bad for them. They just see they don’t get lobster or steak when it’s worse than that.

keen falcon
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I think it'll tie into Sanji's motto, they'll eat when they're truly starving

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And then realize there's nothing left

hasty sable
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Eventually it won’t just be lobster

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Eventually it won’t just be one meal they’re missing

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They’ll be actually starving

ashen perch
dense haven
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fish is common food so they should have plently unlike elite food

ashen perch
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I am sure they do, they won't be starving to death anytime soon

thick mango
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bb was telling him to make it worse right

hasty sable
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It’ll probably be sooner than we think tbh

keen falcon
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I really wonder what Blackbeard is up to right now

keen falcon
hasty sable
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They’re not even letting York eat lol

keen falcon
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To take advantage of the situation while they have a chance

thick mango
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more fire on the bb wg revo deal fire

ashen perch
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BB told Lafitte to do something but its not clear

keen falcon
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Blackbeard pirate activities are always fascinating

thick mango
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making it worse puts more pressure on the govenrment which weakens their negotiation position re garp

keen falcon
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Never are they on screen and I'm not interested in learning everything they're doing

thick mango
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or koby if this was before that

grand flower
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Blackbeard might offer them food

ashen perch
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It'd be pretty silly if they actually gave BB what he wants

thick mango
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theyre in a rough position and theyre arrogant thats all you need

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they do silly shit all the time

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killing saturn in front of the VA was silly

ashen perch
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I think Elbaf could help on starvation, depends on how we're ending things here

dense haven
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tbh they dont know what happened to saturn

grand flower
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If they really trust BB again 💀

keen falcon
hasty sable
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Poisoned by Straw Hat Luffy

ashen perch
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Yeah that's what I meant Shuron

grand flower
ashen perch
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Twice? Same trick from the same guy too? That is just ridiculous

keen falcon
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They're gonna have to trust BB if they want garp back though

ashen perch
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They don't

grand flower
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Akainu is just gonna decide to go take Garp back

thick mango
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they dont care about garp but they might care about bb helping with the revos and the siege

grand flower
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SWORD probably will too

thick mango
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theres weird unresolved revo/bb tension in post-ts

ashen perch
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Yeah I think the Marines will have their own split off there

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From the WG

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I don't think the Gorosei are about to give in for Garp of all people

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Food is a better deal but still I find it unlikely

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I dunno, it all depends on Elbaf's conclusion imo, where that leaves the WG

dense haven
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imagine how much food would mars carry

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bro must be as big as an air liner

thick mango
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i think you got resolution of the bb/revo tension, you also characterize bb as not caring about justice/freedom for others, and the current state re being called away indicates a level of urgency/desperation that might motivate a deal with bb

ashen perch
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Btw on the abyss thing, Imu could actually do it

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He could place a mark on Elbaf's food

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And take it all away instantly

dense haven
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man there are so many ways that could work

ashen perch
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No one else can, but he can

dense haven
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just have jupeter swallow all the food and tp him back

grand flower
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Honestly the most interesting thing about the Revo/BB conflict is dragon and teach were both shaped by Me Valley

ashen perch
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That'd probably cause a hygiene emergency

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Imu's way will be cleaner

thick mango
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bb destroying the revos when kuma saved his life would be nice

dense haven
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bb vs dragon

ashen perch
dense haven
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arsal do you think dragon beats bb

ashen perch
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Yeah

thick mango
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in reality or in like an arena?

grand flower
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Dragon is top 2 alive rn with Mihawk

thick mango
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dragon/revos seem easy to leverage with innocent people

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which bb would happily do

grand flower
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i wonder how many people in this discord have taken a life

keen falcon
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What if somebody died because of you and you had no idea

celest mauve
grand flower
formal wagon
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this discord shit serious

ruby moat
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On god

clever quail
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Depending on where you start to care about it ofc. But otherwise, everyone starting from conception itself has taken lives and breathing itself kills bacteria every time 🫡

formal wagon
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i wonder how many people in this discord know lucci is top 3

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#philosophy

ruby moat
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Kang approved message

clever quail
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I wonder how many people in this discord know oda buried one piece in area 51

formal wagon
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im glad im not alone in lucci hype any longer

dense haven
opal gull
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of bacteria

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who tf gives a shit about bacteria

royal orchid
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the healthy bacteria in your gut hear you saying this shit and you're done

keen falcon
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I have SIBO, I'm fucking done

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I also learned that I'm allergic to amoxicillin

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Fuck me

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Can't even take the antibiotic to kill the bacteria in the gut trying to kill me 😔

royal orchid
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you're allergic to penicillin?

fallen meteor
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Like sleeper agent activations?

keen falcon
fallen meteor
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They say a word and we all wokedge

keen falcon
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(I assume activities typo)

ruby moat
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Los Angeles 🛌 😴

blazing depot
spice cairn
lofty fern
blazing depot
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We are ALL going to the Davy Back Fight section

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Foxy meet and greet let’s GO

sinful stag
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Im gonna set sail start a crew and find the one piece tomorrow

lofty fern
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Though another point for those who seperate Water 7 and Enies Lobby 😆

sinful stag
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Water 7 is enies lobby setup

lofty fern
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Some say it should be all one thing like how Wano is one thing

sinful stag
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yeah but its in the arcs name
“Wano COUNTRY”

prisma yacht
sinful stag
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its a country so its not rlly supposed to be seperate arcs like water and enies

prisma yacht
sinful stag
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luffy better fr

sinful stag
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bbs lowkey a pussy tho

dense haven
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midcible fans

blazing depot
blazing depot
prisma yacht
blazing depot
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If you wish… What society can exist without lies?

waxen furnace
formal wagon
rain cedar
# waxen furnace My goat

So many years later and the only bit of relevance this man has had had been in a non canon movie ✌🏻😭

formal wagon
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stampede is canon actually it happens in between elbaf and vira

waxen furnace
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wtf is vira

formal wagon
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destiny

fallen meteor
rain cedar
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It's the arc where namis connection to the nerona family gets revealed

quiet ice
keen falcon
rain cedar
keen falcon
quiet ice
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He’s a man of the cloth and he worships the true god

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(Imu)

keen falcon
rain cedar
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He has been absent for long because he was learning mantra

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He will be the final boss of grandline ShakkyTrue

waxen furnace
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You get it

keen falcon
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I think he'll be there at one of the last islands before laughtale at least

rain cedar
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Then there's apoo, hawkins and X drake who were just there. I hope Urogue doesn't get the same treatment

keen falcon
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He's singled out as the last one left now

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The fact we don't even have his fruit name is crazy imo

rain cedar
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Yeah, we still know very little about him which is strange. So I hope he will be a major player

keen falcon
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Definitely leaves me wanting to know more

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I think Laffitte's one of the only other interesting characters with an unnamed fruit

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Not counting the weirdness around imu/gorosei

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I find Laffitte so interesting because he feels genuinely ride or die for blackbeard

rain cedar
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I think he has some mind control DF

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Plus he's one of the OG members as well

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And tbh, im expecting something like a mythical zoan as well because he's supposed to have hypnotized marines but at the same time, he has some zoan ability

keen falcon
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Yeah he has some sorta wings

prisma yacht
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Omfg this is so hilarious G5Laugh

prisma yacht
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🧚

prisma yacht
rain cedar
keen falcon
keen falcon
rain cedar
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It's the era of mythical zoan in one piece

keen falcon
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Yeah lmfao

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Wano made it horrible

rain cedar
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Remember when Logias were the boss G5Laugh

prisma yacht
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So me

keen falcon
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We've gotten like 4 logias post timeskip I think

keen falcon
prisma yacht
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Oh god this is so ugly

rain cedar
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Logia fans can have fraudbull

stray prism
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🧌

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Looks goofy on ios

leaden steppe
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Hey uh guys

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Can any of yall send me manga pages in dms i cant buy manga its too expensive in our country and it doesnt exists in our country

knotty root
prisma yacht
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I know what emoji is this

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But y he looks so ass on discord

keen falcon
knotty root
rain cedar
stray prism
prisma yacht
rotund sail
muted hedge
stark patrol
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?????????????????

maiden saffron
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spitting image of you bruh

prisma yacht
rose rune
placid rover
rose rune
placid rover
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CHICKEN BUTT

prisma yacht
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Mute her

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Stupid cabbit

placid rover
prisma yacht
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No

placid rover
rose rune
placid rover
rain cedar
weak wedge
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Hiii

hazy turret
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Dead chat 😔

prisma yacht
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Dead chat 😔

bold sonnet
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Dead chat 😔

hazy turret
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You must think you’re so funny

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Have you guys seen logan paul getting dragged on Twitter

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One piece fans are merciless against him

bold sonnet
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He won't learn his lesson either way

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He is actually mocking us lol

cold steppe
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Ultra rare good twitter moment

sick dust
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of course we are like that

hazy turret
bold sonnet
sick dust
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not to mention he has a record of doing things for money

bold sonnet
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Once an asshole, always an asshole.

sick dust
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instead of passion

hazy turret
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No such thing as bad engagement I guess

prisma yacht
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Only dorks care about him

pulsar path
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I literally try to ignore anything on him because it feels like a child going " look at me!! Give me attention!! Oh you don't like me I'll double down!"

hardy stratus
pulsar path
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I bet he reads manga the wrong way oh wait I bet he's never held a manga other than for a photo for social media

pulsar path
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I'm more sad that he didn't call him lawffy

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Cus than my hate would intensifies 50 fold

subtle pumice
#

What are you guys doing for spoilers and stuff for new chapters?

prisma yacht
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I'm doing
100 pushups

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100 situps

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100 squats

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AND A 10 KILOMETER RUN

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Every single day

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In order to prepare myself for the spoilers

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Wbu?

urban epoch
cosmic hamlet
prisma yacht
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What is wrong with u

stray prism
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This chat ain't surviving the days between spoilers and official

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Which is most days

digital spear
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Aura

stray prism
barren token
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We all love one piece

grand flower
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Minus the 10 KM run

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Idk what a KM is

stray prism
grand flower
grand flower
cosmic hamlet
hazy turret
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Chapter week!

royal orchid
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kilo? like kilo kilo fruit?

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holy goda

frail kindle
hazy turret
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Spoilers will still exist

frail kindle
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That's what you think

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Shueisha got snipers ready

opal gull
hazy turret
opal gull
royal orchid
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red ass chat

opal gull
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this the only true red

hazy turret
frail kindle
grand flower
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I’ll have you know I’m beefy

grand flower
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I should be more like Rokaya

stray prism
#

We need more rokayas in the world

hazy turret
royal orchid
hazy turret
stray prism
wraith mantle
#

Golden Bonney let’s go

opal gull
opal gull
wraith mantle
opal gull
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Zoro

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but I finally got a silver

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i guess

wraith mantle
#

Big silver

rain cedar
muted hedge
wraith mantle
final wadi
#

What's the exact reasoning behind the discord not posting unofficial links anymore? Getting hit with lawsuits or is it something story related?

urban lodge
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We got hit by a copyright strike. And recently, the one pace server, which was even bigger than this one at around 600k members, got taken down, so it was necessary for our safety

placid rover
fervent fable
red lagoon
ashen perch
#

One Pace is a super edit of the series

placid rover
red lagoon
#

It’s the ppl who made it

urban lodge
#

Yeah what they said

fervent fable
#

Oh

ashen perch
#

Blox piece is like 6 times bigger than us

placid rover
#

Blox fruits?

ashen perch
#

Yea whatever

opal gull
#

i think it is roblox?

wraith mantle
#

When did blox piece get taken down?

ashen perch
#

With One Pace, Discord was a big part of how they fans their updates on it so ofc it was massive

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It didn't lol

urban lodge
#

It's funny cause that game is a huge copyright violation right

ashen perch
#

Pretty much yeah but I guess they don't care

opal gull
red lagoon
#

Is gpo still up

ashen perch
#

Pretty sure it used to be called Blox Piece

dark nymph
ashen perch
#

I didn't know it got renamed to Blox Fruits, I assume that was to avoid getting shut down I guess

fervent fable
red lagoon
#

Wait are scans still coming out or are
This stopped to

native cloud
opal gull
ashen perch
#

They'll continue to exist, though leakers do seem to be scared of Shueisha

worthy dew
#

am i the only one who refuses to watch One Pace

fervent fable
red lagoon
#

I love one piece

worthy dew
#

like as bad as the official anime pacing can get, i just don't trust a fan edit to be better

red lagoon
worthy dew
#

i just watch the official anime :p

red lagoon
#

Oh I read it wrong

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I thohhht u said one piece

worthy dew
#

haha

red lagoon
#

I watched one piece only normally

native cloud
#

What the heck is One Pace?

ashen perch
#

I'd rather people just read the manga or not watch at all till Wit Piece comes out than that

red lagoon
#

Shorter

worthy dew
#

i don't rlly trust the Wit adaptation to be well-paced either

red lagoon
#

They cut out repeat flashbacks and non canon scenes and extended scenes

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I will watch. The one piece when I’m like 40

worthy dew
#

i'm scared that they will overcorrect and make it faster than it needs to be

ashen perch
#

No amount of super editing is making it a good enough adaptation, just stick with the manga

worthy dew
#

tbh i think the current Elbaf pacing is perfect

ashen perch
#

Oh yeah recently its been much better

red lagoon
#

1 chapter still so slow

ornate tartan
#

u got a problem with the pacing?

ashen perch
#

But you're not saving Dressrosa with a super edit

ornate tartan
#

u want 3 chapters a week

red lagoon
worthy dew
#

it's obv faster than something like Dressrosa without being super fast

ornate tartan
#

let me tell you something buddy

red lagoon
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I want a chapter every day

trim lily
#

oda should become a twitter artist

trim lily
#

release a page a day

ornate tartan
#

if shuesiha gave oda permission he would give people 30 page chapters weekly

red lagoon
#

Shueshisa some hoes

ashen perch
red lagoon
#

Shueisha need to let oda do what he wants

worthy dew
red lagoon
#

Let him release the longer chapters

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This big one piece nigga this fr the money maker

ashen perch
#

That'd be bad for him

gloomy tree
#

bad for him and would cost them a lot more money

worthy dew
red lagoon
#

Longer chapters is bad for him

ashen perch
#

He says he can draw 30 pages every week but the guy doesn't understand that he'd be in trouble if he did that

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He'd burn out too quickly

worthy dew
#

he already takes a break every 3 weeks or so, which is reasonable imo

ashen perch
#

Yeahh

grand flower
prisma yacht
ashen perch
#

Oda was even the one to suggest that they should do a remake

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He said, and I quote " this ts is so trash" upon revisiting some older arcs under Toei

grand flower
#

I’d love a Yonko saga remake man

leaden rivet
ashen perch
#

I believe it with the remake tbh

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The most important thing is to understand what the original author, Eiichiro Oda, wants, and to find the best way to present what he wishes to show or express. By working closely with him, we will achieve the final result. This work is very close to Oda’s heart, and he knows it better than anyone; his vision will guide us.

opal gull
#

but as it is a remake, we dont have to worry about bad pacing i guess?

ashen perch
#

Read the full post smh

opal gull
#

also is it just east blue saga?

ashen perch
#

Ofc we won't yeah

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Nah

gloomy tree
#

East Blue is what they start with

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obviously

ashen perch
#

Yea and they said that they're committed long term to the project

opal gull
#

that's good

worthy dew
#

oh god. if they're """"streamlining"""" it for a """"""modern audience"""" then im really worried

prisma yacht
#

i like dark chocolates

maiden saffron
#

Oda went to wit studio and said this word by word:

|| PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ||

worthy dew
#

However, since it started a long time ago, the new generation, accustomed to modern productions, does not necessarily feel the same excitement toward the older animation.
this is the part that worries me 😭

grand flower
#

OP will finally get a good adaptation outside of Films Strong World through Gold 🥲

maiden saffron
#

they mean stuff like widescreen, potentially more flashy animation in some cases, much better pacing

#

they're not changing anything related to the story

ashen perch
#

They're just talking about the pace and the animation here mainly, nothing else

maiden saffron
#

also its important i think, to understand that these concerns don't exist as much in the very start of the anime

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i think it's pretty good right at the very start, art, animation, and even the pace is okay

ashen perch
#

Though with Oda's involvement, I wonder if he gets ideas to make changes to the story too

maiden saffron
#

but once you progress into some of the later arcs, it's unbelievably slow

ashen perch
#

It wouldn't surprise me if he has additions in mind atleast

dark nymph
maiden saffron
dark nymph
#

the pacing is still slow

maiden saffron
#

people really need to put some respect on the recent one piece anime

maiden saffron
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and even mid way through

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more than 2 chapters in some episodes

ashen perch
#

I think they also said that the long term goal is for The One Piece to become the definitive One Piece, which was interesting

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I imagine they did just mean the definitive anime adaptation though

leaden rivet
#

I can’t take any one piece anime seriously when the art changes like every episode

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I haven’t been able to really watch an entire episode of the anime since G 5 came out, the laugh is one of the most annoying things I’ve come across in fiction

dark nymph
#

you mean 3 times per episode

leaden rivet
#

It really represents how Imu feels I’m sure

dark nymph
#

ofc that won't happen but js

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wit piece will save us

maiden saffron
#

Very subjective reason to hate the laugh, doesn't really make the anime bad. One Piece looks better than most seasonal adaptations. Also the art doesn't change, it's consistent in general.

What "changes" is when a big flashy scene happens where a key animator lets their personal style shine through.

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I feel like hating the laugh is a problem with gear 5 in general

worthy dew
#

idk i feel like many modern anime adaptations are paced schizophrenically fast, and i don't want that to happen to One Piece

maiden saffron
#

you can't reasonably expect the anime to not have luffy laugh

maiden saffron
leaden rivet
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I didn’t say the anime was bad because the laugh, I said I haven’t been able to watch it since the laugh

maiden saffron
#

well presumably you havent been able to watch it because you find it insufferable = bad for you

hardy stratus
#

The Laugh good

maiden saffron
#

thats what im assuming

leaden rivet
#

And I love G5 just in the manga

maiden saffron
#

unless you mean you like the anime but still cant watch it

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which wouldnt make a lot of sense

hardy stratus
#

but valid reason for Illy

ashen perch
#

I dunno, as long as they don't exceed 4 per episode in the early parts and 3 after like Water 7, the pacing wouldn't be too fast

hardy stratus
#

Also I have 0 hope for The One Piece

leaden rivet
#

Demon you’re coming to a lot of conclusions

dark nymph
#

I was hoping Elbaph would be 2-3 chapters an episode after the break

leaden rivet
#

I mean for one someone not liking an aspect doesn’t mean they think the entire thing is bad

barren plover
#

one piece is a love story

hardy stratus
#

Might be my biasness towards early Toei Piece

ashen perch
worthy dew
leaden rivet
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I hate the laugh and it makes me unable to watch it, but it does not mean I’m saying the entire production is bad

#

very subjective reason to hate the laugh

Well pretty much any dislike to the anime is subjective

hardy stratus
#

If money wasn't a concern, I would want different studio to touch different arcs

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Wit for Romance Dawn

iron oriole
#

I can see where Illy is coming from, i despise Trebols laugh & the "hey hey" for example

hardy stratus
#

maybe some other for Alabasta Saga

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Some other for Skypiea

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some other for Water 7

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some other for Sabaody

ashen perch
hardy stratus
#

some other for Impeldown-MF

iron oriole
leaden rivet
#

I dropped soul eater because I hated one of the mcs voice

dark nymph
#

when there is enough content its nice tho icl

leaden rivet
#

If you watched you already know who I’m talking about JJKSukunaLuL

hardy stratus
#

In best cases, its like 1.5 chapters per ep is best for modern OP

dark nymph
hardy stratus
#

For some it would require 2

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any more would be fast for OP

#

Even tho this is a stupid af metric

maiden saffron
# leaden rivet > very subjective reason to hate the laugh Well pretty much any dislike to the ...

I would say disliking it due to the pacing is a pretty objective reason. But I don't wanna get into that kind of stuff, I was responding originally to the art changing stuff though.

Because I personally feel like it's an overblown issue with the anime. Maybe it feels like that cause of how many high quality cuts there are in the anime, where the animators have their own style.

Like, I don't think it's possible for the anime to have vincent chansard or ishizuka's style all the way throughout. Those are just very flashy cuts that go viral on social media and are hype to watch.

ashen perch
#

3.5-4 for East Blue to Water 7
3-3.5 for Enies Lobby to Impel Down
2-2.5 for Marineford to now

That's perfectly fine I think

grand flower
gloomy tree
worthy dew
#

wtf is wrong with my internet

maiden saffron
distant vine
#

Saying you dont like something about Luffy? They wont let you get away with that here

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😭

ashen perch
#

Egghead did do 2 chapters per ep near the end yeah? I haven't seen it but people said that it still felt slower sometimes

dark nymph
#

Luffy is my favorite character btw

maiden saffron
#

my favorite character is zoro

iron oriole
ashen perch
leaden rivet
#

So I just stick to the manga

hasty sable
#

Ready for WIT Piece

hardy stratus
hardy stratus
ashen perch
hardy stratus
#

but sadly its an issue with web gen animators Illy

hasty sable
#

WIT Piece and the live action are what I looked forward to currently

dark nymph
maiden saffron
#

Flashy cuts made by animators with their own distinct styles, thats why it feels like it's always changing

dark nymph
#

go watch better series

ashen perch
hardy stratus
#

shows would have different view of average from different era

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ashita No Joe's pacing would be crapped on by current anime viewers but then it was very good

maiden saffron
#

the one piece anime is definitely from an era of slop though

ashen perch
#

Oh yeah I mean right now ofc, different eras are... different

hasty sable
#

Haven’t watched the Joe anime

worthy dew
#

faster-paced doesn't necessarily mean better though lol. something like Bleach TYBW for example is way wayyyy too fast-paced, which is a problem

maiden saffron
#

long running anime were always very slow

#

back in the day

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one piece is just a relic from the past

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but atleast they're making some changes to slightly improve that recently

hardy stratus
ashen perch
#

Did the anime of Ashita No Joe run while the manga was ongoing?

hasty sable
#

Don’t think so?

ashen perch
#

There's a difference there

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Because slower pacing out of necessity is what it is

distant vine
#

I dont watch the anime much anymore but its probably worst with the yelling

worthy dew
#

if i have to choose between slow slop and fast slop i pick slow slop

ashen perch
#

Okay yeah that's out of necessity then lol

hardy stratus
#

Manga started from 68 to 73

distant vine
#

I'll watch clips and it feels like the actors have to stretch out streams slightly longer than they should

worthy dew
hardy stratus
#

anime was 70 in first season

ashen perch
#

I'm sure it wouldn't be paced like that even then if they had the whole thing to do

hardy stratus
#

Take other anime from that era

#

they have that slowness

leaden rivet
iron oriole
worthy dew
leaden rivet
#

Sometimes people are like “oh they’re going to get these top tier animators for this episode” and that just makes me know I won’t watch it

hardy stratus
#

For current generation of viewers, anything which isn't constant action is slow af

maiden saffron
hardy stratus
#

That's the 'normal' Pacing

maiden saffron
#

so many high quality scenes, that all look distinct

hasty sable
#

Absorb One Piece from a series of films that are just highlights of episodes cut together like the original Mobile Suit Gundam series trilogy

hardy stratus
#

that you are advocating for

ashen perch
daring hedge
#

Is oda on a break rn?

leaden rivet
#

I really enjoyed like the water 7 to Enies lobby animation the best

distant vine
dark nymph
leaden rivet
#

It was so good consistent and simple

distant vine
#

I for one like unique styles

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Like Shida's

maiden saffron
#

the most recognizable one is definitely Vincent Chansard as of recently though, but his style is a lot of slow camera orbits

hardy stratus
ashen perch
#

Dragon Ball, Bleach, Naruto, its all out of the same necessity, none of these series actually wanted to be slow.

Toei also doesn't want One Piece to be slow, they have to do it

hardy stratus
#

Is what Illy meant

maiden saffron
hardy stratus
#

we have had this convo regarding jjk multiple times in os

leaden rivet
#

Is Vincent the person that’s controversial on twitter

maiden saffron
#

no

hardy stratus
#

me and Illy hate jjk s3's visuals

hasty sable
#

Tbh it’s bad practice and there’s a reason we see people moving out of that nowadays

worthy dew
#

god i hope the anime industry moves away from tiktok pacing someday soon

hardy stratus
#

for same reason as for OP

hasty sable
#

But they got to make that sweet money on the cheap

iron oriole
#

Tbh with One Piece, i like the slow pace.. i feel it helps with the world building that the series has compared to many others

maiden saffron
#

maybe you'd like it more

hardy stratus
#

Romance Dawn to EL pacing is perfect for OP

leaden rivet
ashen perch
#

I see The One Piece as being similar to the Jojo's adaptation, they have nearly all of the series now, they won't have to worry about catching up just like David Productions didn't

maiden saffron
#

the slow pace doesnt add anything imo

hasty sable
#

How it should be

dark nymph
iron oriole
maiden saffron
#

it just makes it hard to watch some arcs

worthy dew
# hardy stratus Can't happen

ehhh depends. a lot of people do take issue with how fast-paced stuff like JJK or the recent Shaman King anime are

distant vine
maiden saffron
#

I'm sorry but everything from fishman island to ... middle of wholecake island is completely unwatchable in the anime

ashen perch
#

JJK is also inherently just faster

distant vine
#

When I think of One Piece being slow I think of the sumo fight

hardy stratus
hasty sable
#

I just want WIT Enies Lobby

#

Deliver please

leaden rivet
#

the mid part of skypiea in the anime felt like I was dragging my feet through quick sand

distant vine
#

Not just a low amount of things happening

worthy dew
#

One Piece is just not the kind of story that should be rushed ‼️

ashen perch
#

Its just not rushed though

hardy stratus
#

like at all

leaden rivet
#

People usually say that about Dressrosa

distant vine
#

I dont mind a slow pace as in things slowly occur

leaden rivet
#

But skypiea felt the slowest to me

maiden saffron
hardy stratus
#

It's 3 Minutes of "trying to fall"

mild bone
#

skypeas

hasty sable
#

It can rush just a little bit

distant vine
#

I think of things being dragged out past their limit

iron oriole
maiden saffron
#

oh we're talking about the anime here

hardy stratus
#

no one's saying Dressrosa or Wano didn't have their issues

maiden saffron
#

the manga isn't slow though

mild bone
#

despacito

leaden rivet
#

The mangas actually been kinda fast recently

maiden saffron
#

the manga has been at a steady pace for a while now, and it doesn't feel slow imo

hardy stratus
cold steppe
#

The slow pace started in enies lobby. If you think skypiea is slow, then it's also slow in the manga

leaden rivet
#

Elbaf escalated rather quickly if you pretend the flashback didn’t exist

hardy stratus
#

Don't you play the manga chapter like a video in your head when reading?

cold steppe
#

It's not because of the anime

hardy stratus
#

Skill issue

mild bone
#

one piece is was never slow,it was just long(manga),not anime

ashen perch
#

Onigashima and Egghead were the only times I felt that the slower pacing could add something sometimes, but that's not the case for 99% of the series lol

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Even the parts that benefited from being extended are surrounded by horrifically slow parts that would want you to stop watching

maiden saffron
cold steppe
#

The end part of an arc is always slow

maiden saffron
#

faster pace would be better

hardy stratus
#

it adds the scenic worldbuilding by just having the visuals linger

maiden saffron
#

early op isn't slow by today's standards

distant vine
#

No it doesnt...

maiden saffron
#

do you guys realize that for the longest time, a one piece episode was 0.7 chapters

dark nymph
#

those slice of life moments benefit from the slow pace

hardy stratus
distant vine
#

Scenic worldbuilding and its just shots of the characters faces

ashen perch
#

I'm sure they'd still linger, just not any more than necessary

distant vine
hardy stratus
#

I am talking Natsume or Mushishi

dark nymph
#

crazy

leaden rivet
#

I’m still appalled that the one pace server got nuked

maiden saffron
#

this is the pace of early one piece btw. It's a night and day difference to current one piece.

#

So you can't really use early one piece to make your claim for today's one piece

leaden rivet
#

That’s a little sad

maiden saffron
#

they are totally different

hardy stratus
worthy dew
#

i mean the difference between a current One Piece chater and an early chapter is also night & day

hardy stratus
#

I am in "early OP is perfect pace"

ashen perch
#

Well I wouldn't say that the difference is that big lol

hardy stratus
mild bone
#

one piece is not slow

dark nymph
#

Just download the entire server, boom easy fix

hardy stratus
#

there's a huge difference that you cant use "this is what jjk uses" or "this is what bleached used"

dark nymph
#

im sure some nerd could do it

hardy stratus
#

since one OP chapter is as long as 4 bleach chapter or 2-3 jjk chapters

ashen perch
#

If an early One Piece episode can do 3-3.5 chapters, later ones will be able to do 2-2.5

hardy stratus
maiden saffron
#

You're saying that a slower pace helps by having shots linger for longer. While I think that's a good thing, it doesn't really translate into a "slow pace can be a good thing" discussion for today's one piece.

Because we've gone from 2-3 chapters to 0.7 chapters an episode.

mild bone
#

BIG 3

jjk
solo leveling
rezero

ashen perch
#

We've seen 1.5, its not enough

hardy stratus
#

there are some where its enough

#

in those I would say 2-2.25

maiden saffron
#

Also early one piece is unforgivable for what it did to Zeff's story

mild bone
#

unemployed people talking about production time:

dark nymph
#

2 is minimum imo

cold steppe
#

I think most would agree that the Imu attack on elbaf in the last chapters would only be done justice if fast paced. But that would never happen since it's an entire chapter

worthy dew
dark nymph
#

for most sections of the story

leaden rivet
#

I’m very much employed smh

mild bone
#

work then

red lagoon
#

The only time low chapter is good is when oda does a short ass fight and to fill out the episode toei extend the fight

leaden rivet
#

No

#

I’d rather argue about production time while making money

mild bone
#

well unemployed

ashen perch
maiden saffron
placid rover
#

I shall snitch lilith_smirk

maiden saffron
#

and you think that's a bad thing?

#

smh

maiden saffron
#

I support talking one piece on company time

#

!

mild bone
#

i feel so hatefull

iron oriole
#

People don't talk about One Piece during work hours? Tf do they do then?

ashen perch
maiden saffron
#

i felt it was okay but

#

again

#

2 is the bare minimum

worthy dew
ashen perch
#

Just pretty good, at best

cold steppe
#

It's because toei focuses on dramatic effects like slow mo and reactions

dark nymph
#

wit piece is gonna skip 1 panel and all hell is gonna break loose

red lagoon
maiden saffron
#

pacing discussions about the one piece anime have been an unproductive endeavour for quite some time. That's why I almost never bring it up personally.

When I say i love the egghead anime, it mostly means how they handled the scenes individually. The pacing is and will always be dogshit for this anime most likely lol.

#

But still, I think people should watch the anime, with wano and egghead

#

and now elbaf

#

i think they'll probably enjoy it

#

just with a huge pacing warning upfront

red lagoon
#

Egghead was fucking amazing

dark nymph
#

scene wise I don't think wit piece is surpassing ts

red lagoon
mild bone
red lagoon
maiden saffron
#

they probably won't

cosmic hamlet
dark nymph
maiden saffron
#

the anime has always been fairly popular

#

even when it was dogshit (fmi -> wci)

maiden saffron
#

and then they kinda put it on the back burner for a while

#

it was only after the explosive popularity that they gave it more priority

grand flower
latent hamlet
#

Easier for people to consume anime than manga

ashen perch
# worthy dew yeah i disagree with that. i think an anime adaptation has to necessarily go bey...

But that doesn't mean adding new content though, that is done by giving a creative spin to the original content. The right direction, animation, music, pacing, etc is so so much more important than inserting in a meaningless scene that does nothing outside of just wasting your time. What did the dream sequence between Kaido v Luffy before he fell down from Onigashima add to that episode? Nothing, they wouldn't even do that if they didn't need to pad. This can be said about so many of the extended sequences lol, they're doing it out of a necessity.

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
#

yeah

grand flower
maiden saffron
#

early one piece has a soul

latent hamlet
#

One piece i feel like was animated as a "its there. It aint crazy but its there"

grand flower
#

My heart broke for her

maiden saffron
#

which it lost after some time

#

i think it was around the end of skypiea

#

where it started to feel different

iron oriole
hardy stratus
maiden saffron
#

east blue in the original anime, no one pace, no fanmade remaster whatever

#

still a great adaptation

latent hamlet
maiden saffron
#

only thing it does wrong is change the zeff backstory

ruby cape
latent hamlet
#

Like luffy broke through it easily in the manga

grand flower
latent hamlet
#

In the anime god thread was pushing luffy back

maiden saffron
#

those water color backgrounds, with consistent character designs

#

different skintones for characters

#

and genuinely beautiful animation and composition

#

early one piece anime was awesome

grand flower
latent hamlet
iron oriole
maiden saffron
#

no one watched that

mild bone
#

i am so poor

cold steppe
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My favorite animation in one piece is episode of east blue. I think it's the best suited style

grand flower
red lagoon
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Dressrossa made me semi read the manga

latent hamlet
maiden saffron
grand flower
iron oriole
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No hate to Trebols VA, he clearly did a good job as a villain to make me hate him so much but it genuinely made me want to make myself deaf

maiden saffron
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episode of east blue is good though

worthy dew
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i usually prefer dubbed anime to subbed ngl

cosmic hamlet
# maiden saffron early one piece has a soul

Its hard to maintain it for 25 years every week.

Probably the effect of not going seasonal and have to work on it every week made them think of it as a casual release at some point. Like a daily routine thing.

grand flower
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React mute speed run

worthy dew
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the Funimation dub is great imo

maiden saffron
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if The One Piece can deliver a quality and consistent adaptation similar to that, i think id be happy

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Calm down bro

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Anyway