also-manga

[prisma idol]

You are on the right side of history

[hardy stratus]

what's the parameters to select that

[urban lodge]

I don't think it's about them being good hosts

[prisma yacht]

As I said it's my cope

[urban lodge]

I think it's just because she looks like Lily

[ashen perch]

so did Titi

[hardy stratus]

okay before you go further Arsal

[leaden rivet]

I’ve com around to Luna a bit these past years

[urban lodge]

Well... Titi doesn't canonically look like her, it's just same face syndrome

[prisma yacht]

Goro isn't white anymore

[hardy stratus]

• Why is Imu going for them?
• What makes them suitable choice? What are the parameters

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-how-to-unsee-blind-homer-simpson-simpsons-gif-17613101

[ashen perch]

I am pretty sure Cobra says that Vivi looks like Titi

so she looks like Lili too

[urban lodge]

Cobra is wrong and stupid

[lofty fern]

I kinda want to see actual Imu now sitting on the throne. No wonder that chair is so big. It had to fit Imu's actual form

[prisma yacht]

Maybe this will be what the dragon flashback will centre around. I honestly think this will be a good plotline to cover

https://tenor.com/view/hl2-hl3-half-life-3-hopium-hope-gif-7246120153840726923

[hardy stratus]

okay you are now adding an extra ground for Dragon's character

and something that could make a Flashback a good thing

[dark nymph]

I still dunno if the blob is a sillhouette or not..

[hardy stratus]

stink a better Dragon fan than the resident dragon fan

[prisma yacht]

Thanks

😼

[hardy stratus]

the origin and shit doesn't really interest me as new ground

as we have seen it to the degree I think is necewssary/interesting

but that aspect is treading new ground

and also makes Sengoku more nuanced

and a more interessting character

and makes Garp-Dragon's dynamic more interesting if it's Sengoku-Dragon who's doing it somehow

[prisma yacht]

Hell yeah

[hardy stratus]

God I need that flashback now

[prisma yacht]

This is my one piece

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-cat-cat-freaky-cat-freaky-tongue-freaky-cat-tongue-freaky-tongue-gif-11560619178986255398

[ashen perch]

I think Imu has a condition that will only be cured if he manages to swap his bodies with another
I am not sure if there are any parameters, my idea is that Nami was the ideal choice all along and then she was just lost so Imu is looking for any 2nd choice, Vivi fits because her ancestor wronged him and he has the desire to kill her like he killed Cobra

[pulsar path]

Could be robin swan

[lofty fern]

I just realized, could the dots on Imu's skin be following the same dot format that's on the throne? 🤔

[hardy stratus]

Then why didn't he go after 800 years of choices

[ashen perch]

his condition was not at the stage that it is now I assume

[pulsar path]

Dude Imu is just perrie or what ever ganfall mount is called

[hardy stratus]

a valid assumption

[ashen perch]

okay I was gonna move onto the 2nd thing, because I keep saying the lost child thing

but its important to explain why

[hardy stratus]

but I interrupt once again

I mean it seems a condition that would keep on deteriorating

which is a valid assumption i think

as that's what the conditions generally are

that's how diseases or stuff generally work

so why not go after Vivi's mother or grand mother

[pulsar path]

Goro I see you recognize real King Xebec

[hardy stratus]

obv

[ashen perch]

thats when he had a vessel in mind, a child

of his own

[rose rune]

Those are just stains from when he sat there sweating

[wooden sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/rocks-d-xebec-rocks-d-xebec-laughing-rocks-god-vally-davy-d-xebec-rocks-laughing-gif-4314577322844819569

[pulsar path]

He got the chicken poxs and itched then so bad he has scars

[hardy stratus]

Arsal I mma be real with you. So far it's been really flimsy stuff

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/insekt-gif-25143905

[hardy stratus]

the latter stuff would depend on this, and your foundation is pretty flimsy

[pulsar path]

Actual video of Imu

[ashen perch]

well tbf

I will admit

[hardy stratus]

you are working backward?

[ashen perch]

I think Oda's been very careful with the hints

[hardy stratus]

you found some connections/patterns/hints for nerona nami
so you are trying to work backwards to the reasons

[ashen perch]

I do understand why it would be difficult to agree with me, because it all can be dismissed as a stretch

[hardy stratus]

and don't have the reasons figured out

[ashen perch]

yeah, thats where this comes in

[hardy stratus]

continue

[fallen meteor]

Goro i should explain to you about how Eris is inside BB's back some time
I need someone to really try to disprove it to me

[ashen perch]

You did see the whole 16 thing I posted right? The number very closely relates to only two characters in the series, Imu (his name is literally 16) and Nami

Nami's first bounty is 16M, she faces opposition from a marine called Nezumi/Rat (Imu is the King of the Rats), who also happens to be from the 16th Marine Branch of East Blue

And then theres Chapter 416's cover

now theres not a single discernible reason that explains why Lost Child is written there in a cover with Nami in the chapter numbered 4(16)

[final trench]

Nerona nami?

[blazing depot]

17 38

I’m like hey what’s up hello

[hardy stratus]

Damn oda draws Nami really pretty

[ashen perch]

that he does yeah

[lofty fern]

No appreciation for such meticulous tattoo art

[ashen perch]

but yeah, 16 comes into play there again

[hardy stratus]

uhh what was the request

this seems to be a fan request

Imu king of rats?

[ashen perch]

Xebec calls him that

[hardy stratus]

oh yeah

[rose rune]

Rat king is !ws

[ashen perch]

I think it would say that below if it was

[hardy stratus]

maybe it didn't say then?

I think Oda only started doing this later?

[ashen perch]

King of the Rats

or Bilge rats, w/e

[hardy stratus]

I need a distraction while filling some very boring job application forms

so I am discussing the theory

[lofty fern]

Rocks trying to out-pirate Roger

[hardy stratus]

yeah I remember it

uhh

I don't see it being that repeated with just this to not dismiss it as coincidence

not strong correlation yet

[ashen perch]

So to summarize, I think Nami is the lost child of Imu, that was actually meant to be his vessel in the first place until she was... lost, so he has now set his sights on Vivi until he manages to find Nami again. That is when he will capture her, leading to that illustration that I showed you

[serene plume]

i just dont like the nami is the lost child of imu theory

like

i feel like its TOO unnecessary

[rose rune]

Nami is clearly the lost child of Gaban

[hardy stratus]

Nothing is too unnecessary

idk

but I don't think Arsal really makes a strong theory either

it's flimsy reasoning for motive
and not strong correlation for the importance of Nami

[ashen perch]

I think the connections are too subtle to really be convincing, I admitted that

But its not any more subtle than the Germa stuff for example, if I told you that Sanji was an actual prince because he nicknames himself Mr.Prince, it would sound just as silly

the Germa stuff had even less ground to stand on, because we only had a vague idea of Sanji having a past in the North Blue and nothing more

[hardy stratus]

Yeah and it's not a heavily foreshadowed stuff eitehr

plus it had like

elements early in the story which showed "there's more to it"

which nami's only show after GV that retroactivley you think there's a CD hunting gorund there

[ashen perch]

I see Oykot as the same, as there being more to the immense destruction of an island in the east blue

[hardy stratus]

See rather than this

what's plausible for me is

Revos and Sengoku Marine were closing in for having some ways to stop these tourneys

CDs still wanted to do it

Oykot is hunting ground

[ashen perch]

but even if it was, Oykot would have to be important

GV was not picked at random after all

[hardy stratus]

they did some drug or medicine to have people hallucinate and cause a civil war

[ashen perch]

these islands they pick are rich in resources

[hardy stratus]

then sent people to stop it

perfect cover

[ashen perch]

GV in particular, was picked because it had the Davy Clan on it

even in that case, Oykot wouldnt be a random place

[hardy stratus]

I don't think anything implies the tourneys always were done in special place no?

[ashen perch]

well GV was special and picked for being special, but I gotta check

[alpine trench]

In the recent flashback we got to know it had something special

[ashen perch]

the Kuma flashback also said that they wanted to claim its resources

yeah

but like I was saying Goro, Oda was real subtle with the setup for Sanji as well, we had a feeling that there was something to his past without any concrete ideas for it

[hasty sable]

We do a little imperialism

[hardy stratus]

Nah before this Arsal

in the panel where he talks about it with uhh

garling with gorosei

[ashen perch]

oh yea ill post that too

he looks real chopped here

[hardy stratus]

see

with this I see that natural resource as

a reason for having that tournament preponed

[ashen perch]

well the point is, they dont really pick these islands at random

[hardy stratus]

that's how I read it as

[hardy stratus]

I think they do

but since this was done without schedule

it needed more incentive to actually happen

Just read Garling's dialogue

[ashen perch]

they were already planning to do another in 2 years time though, Garling just suggests the right location for it due to its importance

[hardy stratus]

Wouldn't it fit it that since they don't want to do this often, so they would need a stronger need for it to happen now

and that resource and davy stuff is that extra incentive

for happenning it this time

[iron oriole]

They seemingly do them like its a leap year sort of thing

[ashen perch]

yeah, its still happening at the same schedule

every 3 years

or was it 4? idr

[iron oriole]

I think it might be 2-3, since the last one had "just ended" but the next is in 2 years

[ashen perch]

ah true true

[iron oriole]

Though with the Gorosei's lifespans... "just ended" could be a longer period

[ashen perch]

but yea, the native hunting competitions exist to conquer these unaffiliated islands based off what we know about GV

so even if that was the case with Oykot, it doesnt really fit in

[hardy stratus]

And GV is so clearly an outlier?

in every way

[ashen perch]

the island just got destroyed instead, left as an empty landscape

[pine ridge]

it was on schedule

[iron oriole]

Ah confirmed 3 years okay

[pine ridge]

every 3 years

[ashen perch]

is it? his points for persuasion are based on the importance of the island

[iron oriole]

I forgot that happened

[ashen perch]

on how its resouces can be utilized

[hardy stratus]

hmmm

[ashen perch]

conquering the island matters to the game

[hardy stratus]

hmm so it happened on time

idk but the phrasing of the sentence

[ashen perch]

he was just discussing it earlier than usual with the Gorosei, it still happened on schedule

[hardy stratus]

"I know this is too early BUT look at all these benefits we can get from this island so I am giving you incentives to achieve my proposal"

is how it reads like does it not?

[ashen perch]

too early to discuss

its like planning a trip a full 2 years in advance

[iron oriole]

God Valley probably wasn't the only "applicant"

[ashen perch]

they are telling him that he's being a little overzealous

[hardy stratus]

too early to discuss as in in our convo or in context

[ashen perch]

I mean in the context lol

[hardy stratus]

yeah

I mean

the dialogue

he's adding "But this. Again that. but this"

he's adding stuff upon stuff to make it the choice

[iron oriole]

Yeah thats probably so he can claim good boy points for proposing the island

[hardy stratus]

whcih might jsut be a exposition/hint added to dialogue

but that way of dialogue doesn't seem to paint those points as the normalcy

but extra incentive

[ashen perch]

he's basically saying that they stand to benefit from conquering that island

I think conquering is the point of it

[lime terrace]

Y'all think it's still possible for BB to get a Zoan? I'm low-key thinking it's getting less likely

[hardy stratus]

I think just one example makes it unlikesly to draw meaningful conclusion from arsal

[ashen perch]

They are basically expanding their territory over the unaffiliated nations, colonizing their lands and plucking out all the resources and erasing all the natives. That is the point of the Native Hunting Competition, I dont think its merely a game to them

[radiant musk]

He is already an animal without it 😭

[ashen perch]

well it is a game but ygwim

[hardy stratus]

damn arsal using genz slangs

[ashen perch]

I try

frfr no cap

[latent hamlet]

The CDs only know it as a game

[hardy stratus]

there's another page of this being mentioned I think Arsal

[gloomy tree]

tbh if we go with the 3 different types of fruit idea i still think he probably already has the third one

[hardy stratus]

someone else talks about "CD's hunting competition"

was it Iva?

it's not a flashback character I think

or well flashback character but not the in focus

[ashen perch]

maybe ginny

[hardy stratus]

I think there's one instance which gives an extra information

woudl be clearer

[ashen perch]

okay yeah

[ashen perch]

its ivankov

[hardy stratus]

kuma fb?

[ashen perch]

that bottom panel confirms it, conquering the islands IS the real point

yeah

[hardy stratus]

okay yeah I can accept it

what's the special resource in tokyo

[digital spear]

You gonna wish Im me

[ashen perch]

Nami

[prisma yacht]

Why are we discussing this

?

[ashen perch]

I was explaining the Nerona Mi thing

[prisma yacht]

Oh is it still on to that

[ashen perch]

Goro I actually gotta go but theres one thing that I gotta mention real quick

[iron oriole]

Tbh, i dont think Garling cared about actually conquering the island, i think he was pushing God Valley so much so he could benefit the most from it being chosen

If it was conquered, it would be:
-Garling wins the competition
-Garling found the Davy clan
-Garling gained X resources for the WG

& so on, the whole conquer point is just to convince the Gorosei of picking it but its ultimately just to better his position

[ashen perch]

how much do you believe in the Skypiea/Greater story parallels, the Enel/Imu parallels

[digital spear]

You gotta explain what ygwim means

[ashen perch]

you get what I mean

[hardy stratus]

extremely

[prisma yacht]

Woah

[ashen perch]

well Goro do you remember a big part of the climax of Skypiea

[hardy stratus]

rigning of bell

[ashen perch]

its Enel practically kidnapping Nami and almost taking her away to the moon

[hardy stratus]

oh hmmm

[brittle basin]

enel lose
bell ring
luffy shadow
luffy and co "steal" treasure
but plot twist: enel wins and gets his dream

[ashen perch]

Nami is basically coerced into accepting it, she has no other choice

[pine ridge]

nami plays the part of vivi

[prisma yacht]

Goda.

[ashen perch]

she plays the part of Nami actually

and the final fight is Nami taking Luffy all the way to the top of the beanstalk so Luffy can land one final blow on Enel

Nami is extremely pivotal to the end of Skypiea

[hardy stratus]

yes

[pine ridge]

yes and vivi will play that part in the final war

[brittle basin]

Are you suggesting Nami aids in the final blow of Imu in the final battle?

[hardy stratus]

arsal so you are robbing Nami's agency in this theory of yours

[cosmic hamlet]

Hello

[ashen perch]

just by her being kidnapped? I disagree, not at all, I think Nami's gonna ultimately contribute to Imu's defeat once she's freed too

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-brook-brook-one-piece-skeleton-afro-gif-15560280492349547943

[hardy stratus]

hmmmmmmmm

[brittle basin]

Once Nami aids in Imu's defeat, how will she help Luffy defeat BB afterwards?

[hardy stratus]

I think I would need Nami to have a singular fight and a much stronger moment after just that

[pine ridge]

nami getting kidnapped would be a good way to conclude elbaf ig

[ashen perch]

there's no afterwards

silly

[brittle basin]

BB kills Imu

[ashen perch]

[dense rapids]

Harley Davidson

Davy D. Harley

[brittle basin]

I have no stake in this theory, but I think Oda does

[ashen perch]

I have an idea for that actually

[pine ridge]

lrll

[ashen perch]

Marcus Mars

[brittle basin]

Finally, some good fucking tinfoil.

[dense rapids]

Harlequinn clown

[pine ridge]

bb is foxy

[prisma yacht]

Ok anyway what Im saying is

[dense rapids]

Harei = 80

Buggy is on the volume 80 cover

[prisma yacht]

There's a possibility that the hunting events are no longer practiced right?

[ashen perch]

the harley is probably named after Harley Race, the professional wrestler

[hardy stratus]

No stink

[prisma yacht]

Why

[hardy stratus]

but I think intervals has increased

[prisma yacht]

Hmm

[hardy stratus]

gap between them

it's a win but not complete win

[ashen perch]

so for this to work

we kinda have to go outside of One Piece again

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-joe-coin-joecoin-emotiguy-emoti-gif-10591833367459445720

[ashen perch]

but its technically One Piece

[hardy stratus]

😔

[ashen perch]

you know Romance Dawn v2?

the prototype version of Nami has a bird bestie in it

his name is Balloon, and he has ultra special rare magical blood

[prisma yacht]

Are you talking about nami's matchup in final war

[ashen perch]

I picked Mars as the one to fight Nami because I expect her to get a bird friend in OP too, which will allow her to beat her bird enemy: Mars

yeah

[gritty tangle]

https://external-preview.redd.it/stumbled-on-this-early-concept-of-nami-it-looks-like-v0-dFvxXKIi-IfUwctvVUp03STv593cq_QK3NaNt5JMyV4.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=557b74e224904c78fd247341ff4f4e349e42db42

[gritty tangle]

We were so close to greatness

[ashen perch]

its pretty simple

[brittle basin]

IF ODA WAS A GOOD WRITER

[ashen perch]

she can make this

[prisma yacht]

We got Morgan's instead

[ashen perch]

even now

[hardy stratus]

uhh not interested in that arsal sorry

[brittle basin]

Oda nerfed Nami 'cause he hates women!!!!

[iron oriole]

Turning Nami into some sort of tamer class

[ashen perch]

well you asked for a final fight for Nami Goro smh

[hardy stratus]

yeah just spitball without connecting to it

[ashen perch]

I think all the Gorosei are designed to be SH opponents

[hardy stratus]

😔

[dense rapids]

Harley is the name of one of the people who will meet again

[hardy stratus]

there's only 5

there's 9 SHs

[ashen perch]

yeah, all 5 for 5 SHs

4 of them could fight the HKs

[hardy stratus]

smh

MidDa playing favorites again

[ashen perch]

Zoro v Nusjuro - swordsmen lol
Sanji v Garling - The blonde, womanizing knight Garling who is serving as the Warrior God of Science now v the blonde chivalrous knight Sanji who is also called the Warrior of Science.
Usopp v Ju Peter - Ju Peter is the evolved version of Merry Christmas and Daruma
Nami v Mars - Works if Nami gets Balloon, a Magical Roc that is her best friend in Romance Dawn v2, I think its whats inside the egg on Oro Jackson btw. Would make this a bird v bird matchup.
Jinbe v Warcury - They do have pretty similar builds lol, also I think Fishman Karate could be effective against his defense.

I made this little list before

[lime terrace]

Yeah but the 3 types of fruit is based off the Cerberus theory right, meanwhile we already see the Cerberus is actually figarland sword

[ashen perch]

Luffy v Imu ofc

[hardy stratus]

I think its whats inside the egg on Oro Jackson btw

HUH

do we see anything about it other than Shiki chapter/movie

[ashen perch]

oh yeah

we see it everytime we see the Oro Jackson

literally every single time

and I think the Oro Jackson could be in Elbaf with Gaban

would make sense, he's the navigator

[hot cairn]

more like Sanji vs Mars

[ashen perch]

after dropping off every crewmember, he'd be the only one left

[dense rapids]

Rebecca = the forbidden sun

80 goroawase is Ha (8) and Rei (0)

[ashen perch]

so he would take the ship for himself, hiding it in Elbaf

[hardy stratus]

plausible

[ashen perch]

theres nothing really pointing to Sanji v Mars

Garling has popped up as a much more plausible matchup now

[hardy stratus]

tall lanky blonde guy

[hot cairn]

and there’s absolutely nothing pointing to Sanji vs Garling or Nami vs Mars lol

[ashen perch]

terrible to women like Absalom and Queen

he has all the ingredients of a Sanji opponent

[hazy turret]

Weeellllllll

[ashen perch]

I listed them Jesus

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/WSJ_manga/status/2049749877819641860?s=20 what the hell is this?

Shonen Jump News (@WSJ_manga)

ONE PIECE CHOPPER's Volume 1 has ranked in Oricon (04/20-04/26) with 282.490 copies sold.

The volume was released on April 23rd after delays due to 'overwhelming demand'.

https://t.co/8RgPdd1CL1

X · Apr 30, 2026, 7:17 AM

[hot cairn]

spin off?

[prisma idol]

What is this

[hot cairn]

I have no idea

[ashen perch]

also you gotta remember, I didnt list that but you gotta understand the essence of the Sanji Zoro dynamic

it comes from a manga that Oda was originally going to write

[hot cairn]

but it’s selling well allegedly

[ashen perch]

the Samurai and the Knight

[hardy stratus]

oh god we getting spinoffs already

i hate this world

[ashen perch]

Samurai Nusjuro, Knight Garling
Samurai Zoro, Knight Sanji

[hardy stratus]

yeah that's plausible enough

[ashen perch]

I think the only reason why people hesitate to believe the Garling matchup is strength but thats really irrelevant

even if Garling is like Shanks level or whatever

Sanji will just be that too

[hardy stratus]

People's stocks on Garling is crazy to me

dude's a fucking CG

[ashen perch]

well IF

[hardy stratus]

they are rats who just feed off Imu's powers

and use it

maybe there are some skilled ones

like nusjuro seems to be one

[ashen perch]

I am sure Oda didnt lie about him being strong currently tbf

[hardy stratus]

but like we see sommers is basically nothing without Imu's blessing

[small ledge]

Sanji being on shanks level and zoro being eventually on mihawks level kinda confirms that Mihawk is just a bit stronger than shanks

[ashen perch]

yeah that works

[alpine trench]

Some One Piece fans are cracked at creative expression

https://fixupx.com/goyo045/status/2049899380874899921?s=46

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FixupX · Apr 30, 2026, 5:11 PM

[hardy stratus]

and maybe Garling too I suppose

[ashen perch]

sick

[hardy stratus]

soo good

[ashen perch]

oh yea I was going to go do something I forgot

I understand why the Nerona Mi thing is hard to believe though Goro

but on that I just let the story play out

[alpine trench]

Stupid ass

[ashen perch]

you will see it soon enough

I havent been wrong on something I was confident about in a long time actually

[prisma yacht]

Hi harsh

[alpine trench]

Uh huh

Hey

[prisma yacht]

😼

[ashen perch]

atleast not since I returned

not since the timeskip

[prisma yacht]

Have I shown you my fursona yet

[ashen perch]

⁉️

[hardy stratus]

smh be kind

[prisma yacht]

Meet sen

[ashen perch]

can I unsee

[hardy stratus]

okay tho to sum up Arsal

[prisma yacht]

No I don't allow you to

[hardy stratus]

you neither have clear reason/motive

nor clear evidence/hints

you haven't even answered me what the resource of tokyo was

[ashen perch]

I did mention the motive, and I think the evidence is enough personally

oh I said Nami lol

[hardy stratus]

if it's Nerona Nami, why did it end up in that place

[ashen perch]

I think Imu has been looking for a vessel that he lost a long time ago

[hardy stratus]

a long lost survivor of nerona clan?

[brittle basin]

What about your Patronus?

[ashen perch]

yes

[dense rapids]

1138

[hardy stratus]

so the nerona clan has been active since forever?

[ashen perch]

I mean we know for a fact that it has

[hardy stratus]

huh

[ashen perch]

its one of the Celestial families, ofc the Nerona are still around

[brittle basin]

we can trace them to the void century. what about beyond that?

[prisma yacht]

Is that ur fursona?

[brittle basin]

My Fursona is Big Foot.

[prisma yacht]

Is cool

[prisma yacht]

gasp

[ashen perch]

All Celestial families, outside of the Nefertari, have living descendants in Marie Geoise

[hardy stratus]

did we see any member other than imu?

[ashen perch]

we havent even seen entire families yet tbf

[hardy stratus]

yeah yea

[ashen perch]

we'll get to that point eventually

I think Mihawk is a descendant personally

not his son, but a descendant

but we'll get to it eventually I am sure, they have been living in Marie Geoise and there might be a Nerona HK too

[brittle basin]

Unless Imu killed them all, yeah there are probably random ass inbred Neronas running about

[hardy stratus]

yeah

[ashen perch]

that would be a terrible idea lol

[hardy stratus]

which

idk why would Nami only be a replacement

he could just like

[brittle basin]

surely some of the CDs have inbred. they are probably a bit into blood purity shit

[hardy stratus]

idk continue the inbreding

and etc

[ashen perch]

I dont think any of them are Imu's own blood

the Celestials are inbred, Nami wouldnt be

[brittle basin]

explain the CD hairstyles

what are their origins

[ashen perch]

idk

[brittle basin]

is it meant to symbolize anything?

[hardy stratus]

why

[ashen perch]

I think Oda did give it a name atleast

[hardy stratus]

idk arsal it has all been pretty flimsy so far

on every front

[brittle basin]

not all CDs would be inbred I don't think, just some here and there at random times in history

[hardy stratus]

I think it's more inbred

[ashen perch]

because she's his own blood...

[hardy stratus]

and yeah some house politics

[ashen perch]

direct child, not from a line of descendants

[hardy stratus]

but I don't think gorosei and Imu would allow it to fester much

[hardy stratus]

as in

Imu could just

procreate again :kekhands:

[ashen perch]

he has a condition remember

[hardy stratus]

if he lost Nami

[hardy stratus]

doesn't necessarily have to stop him from procreating again

there's too many ifs in your

[ashen perch]

I dont think he physically can do much anymore

[hardy stratus]

so this current one which is fighting is a vessel?

[ashen perch]

yeah

[lofty fern]

Are we still in the process of trying to get nami and mihawk to be related to Imu for some reason?

[ashen perch]

its his only form that he's able to fight in, thats why he chose it

[small ledge]

Mihawk mightve been kidnapped and designed as a vessel and part of Imus soul is in his which is way he kinda talks.like him but Mihawk had rebelled and escaped from the holy land?!?

[ashen perch]

thats why he instantly transformed as soon as he got here

[prisma yacht]

Child abuser garp vs child stabber xebec who is more based ?

[hardy stratus]

I can easily see Nerona Mihawk

[prisma yacht]

[hardy stratus]

form or puppet/vessel

[prisma yacht]

Bcs its so true and is so happening

It actually adds so much for mihawk

[hardy stratus]

ye

[lofty fern]

Does everyone have to be related?

[prisma yacht]

I mean

[hardy stratus]

that necessarily doesn't mean smth bad

[ashen perch]

depends on who Imu truly is

[hardy stratus]

people would say the same thing about Sanji

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693

[small ledge]

Also why he has the same eyes

Probably*

[hardy stratus]

but his backstory and that relation added more depth to his character

and made it better

it's a stronger point than a random underdog story

[ashen perch]

people say ''we dont need that'' about anything until it happens

they need to free up their imagination, and put some faith into the author as well

[hardy stratus]

I say "We don't need that"

until the person gives me a proper reason that it contributes something

[dense haven]

we still dont need luffy to be a god

[ashen perch]

if he's hinting at something, I am sure theres a purpose to it

[hardy stratus]

like I was "I don't need a Dragon flashback"

[woven heron]

This is peak

[hardy stratus]

stink convinced me otherwise

[ashen perch]

we'll actually get a 20 chapter Dragon flashback

now you might think we dont need that

but trust me, we do

[prisma yacht]

😼

[hardy stratus]

I would say that it would retread grounds already covered

[dapper tree]

i know we don't need that

20 chapters just to see garling kill dragon's wife

aka luffy's mom

[ashen perch]

Oda said that Luffy's mom is probably alive though

[dapper tree]

they killed a clone of her

[ashen perch]

wow

[dapper tree]

clone piece is back

[prisma yacht]

Goro can you stop calling me stink tho

https://tenor.com/view/boomb-cat-boomb-cat-boom-cat-explosion-explosion-gif-gif-17107588862516012936

[hardy stratus]

sorry stink

blame @rose rune

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pain-gif-25934677

[ashen perch]

well one thing that convinces me on the 20 chapter flashback

is that Oda has a whole spinoff he could write about Dragon

he mentioned that himself

but

[rose rune]

well, it was my fault. I can't deny that

[ashen perch]

I dont think he is going to do that spinoff

so I think it will just be in the story itself

that spinoff is like his mecha manga, I bet he has decided to depict it in the manga already the same way he did it for the mecha manga he planned to write after One Piece

[hardy stratus]

HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT

[ashen perch]

I think he's doing the spinoff as the flashback, its gonna be fine

[brittle basin]

I like how Goro is the opposite of Arsal.

[rose rune]

he should make it as a drama with no comedy whatsoever

[hardy stratus]

we operate on same spectrum on the last few days

[ashen perch]

he actually did say that Thigh

[rose rune]

and some romance

[hardy stratus]

it's just I hate supplementary material

[rose rune]

oh golly

[ashen perch]

he said that a story about Dragon would be extremely serious and heavy

[hardy stratus]

and arsal"unwise" doesn't

because if he did

he would be ArsalWise

[ashen perch]

I obsess over supplementary material actually, as long as Oda's the one who's involved in it

[brittle basin]

This is why I only read the mainline Stormlight books

[ashen perch]

I try to remember as many interviews as I can

[hardy stratus]

it's not supplementary material

if you don't read interludes

[brittle basin]

[hardy stratus]

then you don't need to read novella

you read interlude

so you need to read those novella

be consistent

[rose rune]

I thought the stormlight books were filler?

[brittle basin]

they are

[ashen perch]

Understanding Oda's statements is how I have been so right lately, you wouldnt get it...

[brittle basin]

all of them

[rose rune]

ah, ok

[brittle basin]

i'm lying

[rose rune]

I'll skip it then

[ashen perch]

this is how I landed on my 2037+ estimate too

[rose rune]

thanks for giving me truthful information confirming what I already knew buffy

[ashen perch]

after reading enough interviews, I understood that Oda has been lying about his estimates in every single one of them

[trim lily]

its weird cause from the data artur shared, he was fairly consistent up until like 2020

[ashen perch]

theres only accurate estimate he has made

[hardy stratus]

true read good books like uhh

[ashen perch]

and that was probably a lucky guess

[hardy stratus]

Chronicles of the Black Company

and uhh

Farseer Trilogy

Discworld

and hitch Hiker's guide to the galaxy

[brittle basin]

books are so good. i can finally continue reading again tonight

[ashen perch]

back in 2002, when he said he'd need 20 years to get to the final saga, but its prob a lucky guess

[hardy stratus]

and not mid like Stormid or A song of mid and crap

[rose rune]

I've read that one actually

[ashen perch]

artur said that he was fairly consistent based on his assumption that the series would end in 2028

so you can disregard what he said dolf

[rose rune]

aaah, I still need to read the first foundation book by asimov

I have it lying around

[hardy stratus]

my goat

[hot cairn]

Holy peak

[trim lily]

the original estimate was like 2024-2025 back in 2020

and from the interviews over the last decades it seemed like it was gearing towards that

[ashen perch]

you should read greg's whole thesis on it

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/tusktwo/status/2049648277419680040?s=20 LOL thinking OP was ending soon back in 2006

monkey d lukey! 🌻 (@tusktwo)

2006...don't think you've gotta worry about that buddy!

X · Apr 30, 2026, 12:33 AM

[ashen perch]

Artur misses a lot

[trim lily]

greg piece

[brittle basin]

What arc was happening live in 2006?

or was that post about the anime or manga, as maybe they were on different arcs?

[ashen perch]

Enies Lobby

[dense haven]

op almost ended in enies lobby tho

[brittle basin]

Enies Lobby has an important feeling, so I can kind of see it.

[ashen perch]

tbh I can understand why they'd think that

[prisma yacht]

Tubahhhhhhhhh

[ashen perch]

exactly

[hardy stratus]

I can't

[ashen perch]

they justt challenged the WG there

[hardy stratus]

it seems like

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/scuba-cat-scuba-cat-kitten-cute-gif-6808830743234487843

[ashen perch]

maybe they thought ''woah, WG war super soon''

[hardy stratus]

end of prologue of this story

[brittle basin]

Enies ends with jumping on the merry and saying "let's go back to the high seas of adventure."

[hardy stratus]

not the end of story

[brittle basin]

and yeah having sogeking set the flag on fire was a declaration of war.

[hardy stratus]

it feels like

[ashen perch]

well in hindsight for sure, but I can understand a weekly reader at the time

[hardy stratus]

"the adventure is over"

"time for seriousness"

[ashen perch]

not knowing that this is a long term serialization

he could be making some assumptions like that for sure

[dense haven]

are you saying by enies lobby people were not aware op was long term?

[hybrid hazel]

No it'll end 2031

[ashen perch]

it was only 9 years in

[dense haven]

"only"

[ashen perch]

Maybe they thought 6-7 more to go

[hot cairn]

that’s a long time

[dense haven]

I'm confident arsal experiences time differently from humans

[ashen perch]

the series is going to be 40 years when its said and done

ykwim by long term

[hot cairn]

he was wrong tho

[warm sierra]

Wasnt this close to where Naruto ended

[ashen perch]

no

[hot cairn]

2006?

I don’t think so

[ashen perch]

naruto ends in like 2014

[prisma yacht]

Naruto ended?

Bruhhhhh

[warm sierra]

Well pre shippuden ofc

[prisma yacht]

You spoiled me

😔

[hot cairn]

no chance

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/immortalimu/status/2049817251121860975

Nerona Imu (@immortalimu)

Good morning to everyone except joy boy

X · Apr 30, 2026, 11:44 AM

[wraith mantle]

No way it actually ended in 2014

[warm sierra]

Im saying for like the perspective from 2006

[ashen perch]

naruto is one run in the manga

shippuden is an anime thing

[lofty fern]

Good Morning Lord Imu

[hardy stratus]

November 2014

[wraith mantle]

Naruto ended 13 years ago???

[hybrid hazel]

Wym no chance

[prisma yacht]

My estimate is we will be on epilogue during 2035

[hardy stratus]

11

[hot cairn]

too soon

[wraith mantle]

Wow

[hardy stratus]

12 running

[warm sierra]

Shippuuden Anime started february 2007 I dont remember how it was manga wise

I guess so then

[hybrid hazel]

Wow

[fallen meteor]

one piece ends 2037

[hot cairn]

when did bleach end

[warm sierra]

2016

[ashen perch]

yeah

[indigo yacht]

When did one piece end?

[dense haven]

mc donals is bringing back the grimace shake yall

[ashen perch]

2037

[indigo yacht]

Lying through your teeth

[dapper tree]

finally good news

[prisma yacht]

Is there a wide gap between ur front teeth spice

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/denture-caledogif-1--k01KQFW8XBZ56K7JCZGBBQV4FMP

[pine ridge]

aura

[hot cairn]

great song

[brittle basin]

When is it bringing back these?

[ashen perch]

9 days till chapter

[opal gull]

1182 Hype 1182 Hype 1182 Hype

[ashen perch]

what are we thinking

[opal gull]

so I see Luffy going Hybrid towards the end

and luffy joins him

[ashen perch]

I am thinking we might not focus on Loki v Imu for more than the last few pages, where we get a hybrid reveal.

[dense haven]

im thinking the server will be very funny

[opal gull]

Tho i dont see them fight Imu, the chap ends on a cliff

[ashen perch]

9 DAYS

remember that

the chapter wont be coming out before 9 days

nuh uh.

but outside of the server thing smh

[opal gull]

we will meet in the spoilers channel

[ashen perch]

I can see Luffy being ready to join up atleast

[opal gull]

[ashen perch]

meet in the what and where and huh?

[opal gull]

Yeah, thats where I see the chap ending

Luffy and Loki together vs Imu

[brittle basin]

So, this is hell.

[opal gull]

[prisma yacht]

Jigoku da

[ashen perch]

get ready but not join yet, lets see

[warm sierra]

Im interested in how Luffy interacts with Imu bc I cant see him giving a shit about the whole Joyboy angle

[ashen perch]

I think the focus will be on the HKs personally

[opal gull]

Also yeah, we will get what others are doing as well

Maybe the GKs

[opal gull]

oh yeah what I mean is, we see them together standing agaisnt Imu

and thats where the chap ends

so they dont fight together yet

I am curious what the new goal is

for the GKs

Hope its not getting the kids again

pretty underwhelming

[maiden saffron]

You can tell yasopp genuinely believes he deserves to live

[prisma yacht]

Can yasopp commit sepukku

[dark nymph]

Setup chapter ending with Loki going hybrid

[opal gull]

Tho I still see both of them losing to Imu

and then Imu leaving

so there's no consequences like Elbaf getting destroyed, or the SHs having to escape or someone getting captured

[warm sierra]

I dont see how defeat that leaves them alive would do it at all for Imu tbh

[opal gull]

Jarul will die

[warm sierra]

that wouldnt make Imu leave though

[opal gull]

He will have some kind of "timer" or a drawback for being away from Marijois

he also seems in a Hurry when he tells Sommers to Haste

[graceful grove]

Chapter day

[hot cairn]

chapter day would be Sunday now…

[dense haven]

mods can we at least ask if t*b is out yet

[ashen perch]

its not even chapter week, its a break week

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[ashen perch]

we'll have something, dw

[prisma yacht]

Kingdom just dropped a new chapter

Made me miss the op chapter this week

[fallen meteor]

oda missed it too

[prisma yacht]

He gets a break during jump breaks?

[gloomy tree]

i mean its multiple holidays that are celebrated next week, he is working this week but next week Japanese people usually do little vacations and stuff

[prisma yacht]

Dude

@hardy stratus

@ashen perch @grand flower

Was sengoku in power when the marines were hunting out pregnant women?

[hollow dove]

More evidence for Arsal’s favorite theory, “3D / =02” on the cover page of chapter 1012 👀

@hazy turret The fuel of cope continues 🙏

[prisma yacht]

Time dilation?

[hollow dove]

Indeed! Don’t regret your lost time in the mystical land of Elbaph

[hardy stratus]

Yes

[ashen perch]

Kong

[hardy stratus]

Huh

[prisma yacht]

😎 we are getting it confirmed in 1096

[urban lodge]

It was Kong yeah

[ashen perch]

Sengoku was an admiral

[hardy stratus]

Oh yeah I remember

[prisma yacht]

Send me a panel for this

[hardy stratus]

Garp and Sengoku stop Shiki

[ashen perch]

Yupp

[hardy stratus]

it was around the same time

and it called Sengoku admiral

[ashen perch]

After Roger's execution is when they go looking for the babies too

[prisma yacht]

Arsal

[ashen perch]

Its in chapter 0

[golden valley]

Shiki got confirmed alive, still blows my mind

[ashen perch]

Good stuff, I didn't remember the cover page

[prisma yacht]

Dang why did I say 1096

I meant 1196

[ashen perch]

Wouldn't surprise me now if he did have some role to play

[hollow dove]

Yea, it’s a good shout given what’s happened with Kid so far.
I find it fascinating that those combination of numbers paired with even the “D” in 3 and “=“ for 2 are literally coinciding with the same theory that people such as you had already been making.
Despite being unaware of that cover page’s details while actually pitching it.

I thought it was way too convenient, hence wanted to supply the almost too convenient evidence..

If it doesn’t end up true somehow, then it’ll have been a massive coincidence if all else lol

[golden valley]

You’ll see the vision and make a Shiki theory eventually

[hardy stratus]

What's the success rate of goroawase theories

[prisma yacht]

If we get ancient kingdoms name reveal in chapter 1185

100%

For the wani = 11 gorowase thingy

[frigid gulch]

https://fixupx.com/goyo045/status/2049899380874899921?s=46

Goyo (@goyo045)

Nidhogg
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FixupX · Apr 30, 2026, 5:11 PM

[hardy stratus]

A lot of Wano goroawase theories didn't go well

[prisma yacht]

Luffys 56 is also pretty accurate tho I don't know much about it

[prisma yacht]

This is honestly so good

[hardy stratus]

You are like the 4th person to post this in this channel btw

[prisma yacht]

Makes me excited for the anime

[hardy stratus]

Goes to show great this is

[royal orchid]

I saw it and immediately thought "5 people probably posted this on discord already"

fuckers all on twitter

[prisma yacht]

@urban lodge I was about to kill a mosquito but later realised it's a smol moth , the timing was good and the moth is still alive Yahoo

[ashen perch]

I just find that hard to believe tbh, it won't be a coincidence and in general, a lot is lining up for Kid's very own 3d2y here

[ashen perch]

Well I was right about Luffy v Imu and Imu reveal happening in the current volume, Volume 116

The other goroawase theories of mine are in pending status

[trim lily]

but you were wrong about imu calling back to something a chapter or two ago

[ashen perch]

Tbf that wasn't goroawase

And I wasn't confident about it at all smh

[hardy stratus]

You had q bunch in Wano that never came true

I forgot what they were

[prisma yacht]

I like how that finger is wiggling so much

[ashen perch]

I do have one Shiki idea but its not so much of a theory, I think Hachinosu is meant to be the New World version of Impel Down and I think Shiki is going to be reintroduced there, maybe even as a prisoner

[ashen perch]

Theories in general yeah, but I had one goroawase idea and I still fully believe that

The DF number theory

I think there were many that Stoop had and I did believe that some of em could be possible but they just weren't so

[prisma yacht]

Watch the wani thing be accurate

[trim lily]

the what

[prisma yacht]

#1185

We are coming for you

[ashen perch]

No it won't be...

[trim lily]

hey that’s when elbaf is ending

[prisma yacht]

Basically ancient kingdoms name reveal

[ashen perch]

We're not getting the reveal that early

[trim lily]

wait a minute maybe i was onto something with my bingo

[prisma yacht]

No that's not for 1185

[trim lily]

1185 is chapter 60 of elbaf right

[prisma yacht]

Ur not ready

[prisma yacht]

Yes 1192 is 67th chapter

[golden valley]

[trim lily]

perhaps the goda was in me all along…

[prisma yacht]

Watch out for this chapter

[ashen perch]

I believed in this back in Wano and I still unflinchingly believe it now

[prisma yacht]

You too goro

[digital spear]

My favorite devilfruit is the muna muna no mi

[urban lodge]

Let's goooo moth society thanks you (I wanted to put a bunch of moth emojis but there are none wtf discord)

[prisma yacht]

They hate us

[grand flower]

Kids return will feed galaxies

[brittle basin]

well, technically, kuma ain't dead

[ashen perch]

He is

His memories will be installed in a clone without his fruit, trust.

[grand flower]

Into S-Bear

[trim lily]

that doesn’t sound ethical

[grand flower]

Nothing about the seraphim are ethical

[prisma yacht]

😆

[lofty fern]

And just like that, you've lost my respect 😔

[ashen perch]

Yeah, Hachinosu used to act as a prison for the world's worst criminals, its basically Impel Down but for people that werent being handled by any other prisons of the world. I think its fitting that Shiki ends up in a prison island once again lol, I imagine thats where we could see a returning Wang Zhi too, maybe they worked together? We'll see.

[blazing depot]

Kuma is braindead yes

[ashen perch]

its true though

[blazing depot]

But not clinically dead

[prisma idol]

https://x.com/i/status/2049516362901700832

朝霧ハルカ (@heart_blody)

騎士ウタちゃん

X · Apr 29, 2026, 3:49 PM

[ashen perch]

VP confirms it, he's in a total dead state, he has been shut down

I really wonder where exactly the Stella clone is supposed to fit in, speaking of that

[hot cairn]

👀 @ashen perch

[ashen perch]

So much left in the arc, its what made me go from my 45 prediction to 55

[ashen perch]

Yeah I've talked about this smh

The foreshadowing via gags, its an Oda classic

Especially with CoC

The idea of a SH getting CoC first gets mentioned in a comedic fashion, as a gag and then it turns out that the gag actually was just foreshadowing after all.

Zoro had his gag in Onigashima, when Kaido lifted the island up and Brook joked about his CoC being responsible for it. Fast forward to Kaido v Zoro and he actually ends up getting it.

Sanji just had his gag with Gaban, we all know where this is heading for him very soon!

Usopp and Nami have also had this type of gag. With Usopp, he has had it twice, twice he has lied about having CoC as part of a gag even. What could that mean I wonder? If we keep up with that pattern.

Now, I do feel for Jinbe

Idk, but I think he gets something cool soon

Even if its not CoC

Well not soon, almost nothing is actually soon

But eventually, he'll get some major powerup

[hot cairn]

[ashen perch]

Careful

[hot cairn]

@grand flower

[brittle basin]

plz no posting OC content

[ashen perch]

If this fight lasts 5 more chapters, I'm moving to 65

[urban lodge]

Buffy is not ready for Uta to be top 10 in the poll

[ashen perch]

Loki fight I mean

[prisma idol]

Uta dayo

[brittle basin]

Whota?

[ashen perch]

Uta is an OC (Oda creation)

[prisma idol]

Better than MIda

[rose rune]

loki???

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[urban lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-loki-one-piece-one-piece-prince-crown-gif-2482972197937608724

[hot cairn]

LOL which fight?

[ashen perch]

Loki

[urban lodge]

We need to use this as much as possible while we still can

[hot cairn]

lmaoo

[urban lodge]

Because Loki is about to be animated

[ashen perch]

My 55 prediction depends on Luffy getting his ass totally beaten by the end of this volume

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-one-piece-anime-one-piece-loki-loki-one-piece-gif-13584204944776282472

[ashen perch]

If it doesn't happen by then, I'm moving to 65 too

[brittle basin]

it feels like 500 days since last chapter. the whole leaker thing messed with my sense of time

[lofty fern]

If Vegapunk says there's a way to fix Kuma, there's a way

[ashen perch]

Yeah! Ofc there is

The way is transferring his memories into a new clone body

[wraith mantle]

Dominion of Mu

[ashen perch]

A person is his memories after all, that is his life

[wraith mantle]

Yall think Imu became a weirdo because the elders are yes men

[lofty fern]

I just realized, Loki went unconcious after getting beat up by Gunko, but he's taking Imu's hits like a champ. Is...Gunko stronger than Imu? 👀

[ashen perch]

If his memories are installed in an empty clone, that just becomes Kuma

[brittle basin]

the elders are yes men because imu forced them to be that way

[lofty fern]

That's not what she meant and you know it

[wraith mantle]

Imagine letting a twink like Imu bully you into being spineless

Smhhhh

[blazing depot]

Son

Imu is not a twink…

[ashen perch]

Give it some time

Yeah Imu's quite jacked unfortunately

[wraith mantle]

His face gives twink

[lofty fern]

He's too handsome for them to comprehend his glorious physique

Warcury wishes he could look like Lord Imu

[rose rune]

yes

[lofty fern]

People didn't realize that in the back of the flower room is a full gym

[wraith mantle]

Who’s in your pfp

[urban lodge]

I kinda wish he was skinnier

[lofty fern]

Phoenix

[rose rune]

it's green nami

[lofty fern]

Jean Gray

https://tenor.com/view/fire-lady-power-girl-flames-gif-16943518

[wraith mantle]

Is the girl in your pfp a nami clone

[rose rune]

from the anime x men

[wraith mantle]

Should I add her to the nami clones meme

[rose rune]

she has a pointy nose, it wouldn't work

[leaden rivet]

Unfortunately?

[ashen perch]

Unfortunately.

[lofty fern]

Nami wishes she was like Jean. She could literally make her own gold

[ashen perch]

There's still hope for his base though

But he might just turn out to be old and sickly in that

[brittle basin]

Y-Men when?

[leaden rivet]

What’s the issue

[ashen perch]

And not a twink

[wraith mantle]

His blob form has to be a skinny legend form

[warm falcon]

machista

[leaden rivet]

I also would love an androgynous imu I suppose

[warm falcon]

(irony)

[ashen perch]

My hope is that Imu will be the type of villain to have 6 different forms

So I'm not giving up on Twink Mu yet

[brittle basin]

old and sickly imu is slightly more interesting that hot imu. but old and sickly is something i've seen in various media before.

[leaden rivet]

This wasn’t even my final form

[ashen perch]

Exactly

[lofty fern]

I think that's also a comic book

[ashen perch]

Even that guy had a big jacked form

Imu will go through his phases I'm sure

[brittle basin]

frieza

lets go

[rose rune]

technically we would get millenial men after x men

[warm falcon]

maybe the prototype of Imu is sherry, who knows

[rose rune]

damn, we'll never get Y men actually

[dense haven]

generation alpha sounds so cringe

[dense rapids]

Nerona and Davy

[dense haven]

anything after 2014 will always be zoomers

[ashen perch]

Mihawk is just a Nerona descendant

You gotta invest in Nerona Mi

[urban lodge]

Nerona Me

[pine ridge]

just wait for generation sigma

[dense rapids]

[dense haven]

sigma balls lmao gottem

[odd rune]

Correct as always

Hot babes > Zoro > Luffy > the rest

[wraith mantle]

Idk how I feel about it

[gritty tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-jobs-its-so-sad-its-so-sad-steve-jobs-its-so-sad-steve-jobs-died-its-so-sad-steve-jobs-died-of-ligma-gif-21230209

[wraith mantle]

Old and sickly works if Imu is truly morally grey

[pine ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-10576833416044093400

[brittle basin]

it's a trope as old as the wizard of oz

[wraith mantle]

If Imu is just childish it will just come off as weird

[ashen perch]

Its NeroNa Mi
Opposite of Nerona Im smh

[wraith mantle]

On god

[rose rune]

Imu is the new senor pink

he'll wear diapers and say goo goo gaga

[ashen perch]

I don't mind old and sickly but alien Mu is the move

[warm falcon]

i hope not

[brittle basin]

alien piece is nice

[warm falcon]

i dont rule it out, but i hope not

[dense rapids]

Son of Davy Jones

[ashen perch]

A more realistic version of this

Trust

[brittle basin]

this is 10x better than anything else

[rose rune]

which reminds me

since you've been talking about vessel nami all day

[ashen perch]

Nami's space connections have actually been part of theories for a long time

I don't remember exactly why, but its some color spread theory I believe

[ashen perch]

The crownless silhouette we got made me pretty confident that we're getting this

[brittle basin]

me too

[lofty fern]

I don't think we need another Freiza

[ashen perch]

People believe that its just a regular guy wearing a veil and now lets be very real about that lol

[rose rune]

my theory is based on OS, so I discard it

[trim lily]

can’t we seen an outline of imu’s face in some panels

as if it’s a veil

[wet condor]

I hadn't even considered Imu having several forms

[ashen perch]

It might make sense for him to be wearing a veil now, but with Joyboy? Its very unrealistic

[lofty fern]

Or he could just look as he does now, with a hood on?

[wet condor]

That'd be novel

[brittle basin]

sorry i don't think that's happening

[wet condor]

For this series I mean

[trim lily]

imu is weak to sunlight

[wet condor]

Not a bad idea

[brittle basin]

i think this form is like a zoan hybrid of sorts

[trim lily]

yeah

[rose rune]

so he's a discord user

[ashen perch]

Why would he be wearing a hood with Joyboy again? Its not like he needs to hide himself

[trim lily]

we’ve already seen (part of) the full form

[ashen perch]

We've already seen several forms

[pine ridge]

I think he'll be extremely weak to seawater which is why lives so high up

[ashen perch]

Well, we know of several forms already

[lofty fern]

Because this is One Piece and people do that?

[ashen perch]

When

[lofty fern]

Especailly if they happened to be from opposite countries

[prisma yacht]

Goodnight lovely ppl

[ashen perch]

I mean the Revos do it but they're also all about secrecy

[prisma yacht]

and cyg ig

[ashen perch]

Good night

[trim lily]

i don’t think it’s that crazy for imu to just prefer wearing a veil lol

[lofty fern]

Shamrock does it all the time even when he doesn't have to

[trim lily]

also this is oda

[ashen perch]

HKs were also operating in secrecy

[pine ridge]

shamrock is just larping as shanks

[rich hornet]

He loves to cosplay shanks for meta purposes

[trim lily]

he’ll do whatever he can to have silhouettes

[lofty fern]

Not in the holy land

[trim lily]

and how else can he communicate this is imu in the past

with a familiar one

[lofty fern]

We honestly don't even know if that person was Imu

[ashen perch]

Well I actually think he isn't wearing a veil now either

[dense marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-steve-stars-moon-gif-12583743

[ashen perch]

and he just looks like that

[dense marsh]

Footage of garling offscreen

[fast pagoda]

I like this idea a lot

[trim lily]

i forget what the health condition for it is

[brittle basin]

yeah i assume that was imu in the one panel with joy boy. i just don't have any reason to think otherwise

[fast pagoda]

I used to think Imu had sapphire scales for a long time

[lofty fern]

I think I'll just enjoy Imu as is, without having to tone him down into some weird monstrosity

[pine ridge]

being white?

[brittle basin]

we all want hotties

[ashen perch]

Base Mu (blob)
Devil Humanoid Mu (now)
Big Devil Humanoid Mu (against Sabo)
Biggest Devil Humanoid Mu (in the Mural)

That's 4 forms already btw

[fast pagoda]

Imu is a mortal man who became a monster after 800 years

[ashen perch]

How are you looking at that weird little creature next to Imu's current form and not thinking its a weird little creature...

[lofty fern]

I have a feeling that shot will change perspective a lot when we actually see it in full. Just as Oda did when we first heard Rocks and his crew and then later when he did the full flashback.

[ashen perch]

That thing barely even passes as human

[trim lily]

so mean

[brittle basin]

Imu being something from hell itself or otherwordly has something nice to it. or even just from the moon

[lofty fern]

The best monsters are handsome on the outside 😉
Plus it fits nicely with the Lucifer aesthetic

[brittle basin]

however, imu also just being a simple dude works with the right execution

[dense haven]

if imu is an alien we gonna have another crashout

[brittle basin]

Imu could be the spirit of something from a hell dimension that took over the original Nerona Imu

[fast pagoda]

Yeah

I dont think Imu is a lunarian

[pine ridge]

until we find out all life came from some asteroid that hit the planet

[fast pagoda]

But I think there is absolutely a connection

[lofty fern]

I consider the one we see now that got Oda's title card box to be his most true form. Every other form are ones he manipulates using Maki

[brittle basin]

i'm thinking currently Imu is Lunarian

[ashen perch]

You either gotta think he's 4 ft or not human

[fast pagoda]

I think Imu's fruit has a lunarian origin / association

[brittle basin]

possibly

[fast pagoda]

It allows him to transform into a mythical fallen Lunarian devil

[brittle basin]

But with the Vearth statue idea that Arsal has, Imu having direction connects there works

[trim lily]

my short king imu

[brittle basin]

though I still go back and forth and bank on some hell dimension as the origins of this power of devil fruits

[ashen perch]

I say it endearingly its fine

[lofty fern]

No one wants that Vearth thing but Arsal

[fast pagoda]

Lunarians and sky peoples probably have a link

I mean they're called Lunarians

and we already know sky peoples come from the moon

[trim lily]

yeah

[dense marsh]

Lunarian

[trim lily]

i guess lunarians were the progenitor to the sky people on the moon