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urban lodge
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Uta will be top 10 btw

dense snow
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the poll was based when they had rocks in top 5 for like 2 zones

ashen perch
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this is the last top 10 from the ME

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yeah lmao

hazy turret
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Never slander my region like that again

dense snow
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u can see top 5 on the website only

lofty fern
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That jacket is all she gets

ashen perch
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I forgot Nami was #2, I thought she was like 8

dense snow
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idk about top 10

leaden rivet
hazy turret
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Carrot above robin is atrocious though icl

leaden rivet
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Why is carrot even there

ashen perch
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Drake above Shanks 😭

dense snow
ashen perch
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and I like Drake but he is NOOOOOOOOT worthy of #9

brittle basin
urban lodge
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The Drake thing is funny

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I remember reading that it's probably because the real life Drake was Turkish?

dark nymph
ashen perch
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you might think Carrot got botted but she had a strong performance in every single region outside of Japan

hazy turret
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Drake is the actual worst character in one piece period. Worse than Koby

ashen perch
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like this is pretty good

urban lodge
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Hawkins is cool

ashen perch
dense snow
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was

urban lodge
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He doesn't deserve the hate

wet condor
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Koby is worse

hazy turret
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Koby is annoying but at least he’s got a purpose, Drake is the actual most bland most useless character in the series

gentle terrace
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Loves Hawkins, hate Drake

atomic spindle
dense snow
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I liked hawkins before wano

wet condor
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Being bland is better than being whiny and annoying like Koby is

ornate tartan
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the worst character in one piece other the the obvious choices of absalom vander decken IX spandam and characters of that nature is without a doubt, Pedro

gentle terrace
wet condor
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But drake is indeed hardly a character lol

ashen perch
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Oceania is incomprehensible

hazy turret
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No way, he’s such a nothing character that it makes you angry for the space he’s taking up and wasting

maiden charm
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I actually liked drake alot in wano

urban lodge
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Drake is super super mid but I have faith that Oda will cook with him

lofty fern
hazy turret
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How do you have dozens of panels and still zero character

gentle terrace
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Drake is just forgettable

dense snow
thick mango
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<t:1777819500:f> is when we get the current poll status.

maiden charm
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Anime did him justice i think

brittle basin
ashen perch
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lmao

ornate tartan
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u know damn well oda ain’t cooking with no damn X drake come on nowšŸ˜‚ he will always be overshadowed by Koby

hazy turret
dense snow
wet condor
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LMAO

ashen perch
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oh is it #4

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well still

dense snow
hazy turret
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You just got scared she was close to overtaking Robin

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Homer dropped his donut doh

thick mango
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wait people are voting for carrot in 2026? i dont believe you

ashen perch
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worldwide

ashen perch
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Carrot will prob fall off this year I am sure

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but she'll still be like top 30

gentle terrace
thick mango
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she kinda got a lame ending

urban lodge
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It did

gentle terrace
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Oh

thick mango
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i dont even remember what she did in wano did she beat jack or something

gentle terrace
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It didn’t for me

urban lodge
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Maybe it's bugged for you

thick mango
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oh perospero right

ashen perch
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no...

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she beat nobody

hazy turret
dark nymph
hazy turret
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A characters worth is not measured by who they beat

gentle terrace
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Omg

thick mango
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sure i agree with that but who they fight in the climax battle of the saga kinda is relevant

ashen perch
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you'd know a lot about being unable to beat someone as a Kid fan...

thick mango
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maybe im being wrong. maybe she contributed in some not fighting way?

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did she save a bunch of civs or something?

hoary steppe
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Chat

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Chapter when

thick mango
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anything?

hoary steppe
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Tomorrow ?

ashen perch
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She does fight Perospero

urban lodge
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Proof that Oda is evil

gentle terrace
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And he’s coming back with it

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Stronger than ever

hazy turret
obtuse perch
ashen perch
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but then Perospero beats her ass because the moon takes away her sulong, and tells her to chew on some grass and go away

prisma yacht
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I curse you with 3 more days of normal cards

woven heron
ashen perch
thick mango
ashen perch
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Onigashima is... something

urban lodge
gentle terrace
# woven heron

ā€œOn a scale from 1 to 10 how evil are youā€ 😭

prisma yacht
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If it works for 3days

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My curse will get stronger

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And I'll curse you for a longer period next time

urban lodge
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Last time it only lasted one day

prisma yacht
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It was a noobie curse

lofty fern
gentle terrace
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Is this a safe space to say I genuinely don’t like carrot

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And I don’t get the love

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For her at all

prisma yacht
ashen perch
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Gold Mu LuffyPog

prisma yacht
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Gold moo

ornate tartan
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marcus family

prisma yacht
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🐮

prisma yacht
ornate tartan
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one sec

lofty fern
ornate tartan
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here u go @prisma yacht

prisma yacht
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Biblu hype

ornate tartan
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i haven’t voted in like 3-4 weeks

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only cause u asked

prisma yacht
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Good comeback vote

lofty fern
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Biblo knew Imu was going to destroy the Sun Realm and said "I'm Out, ya'll can deal with that"

hardy stratus
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Who cares about some poll

wraith mantle
prisma yacht
ornate tartan
hardy stratus
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Biblu protected the books

prisma yacht
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Reals

lofty fern
urban lodge
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They only happen every like 5 years so I care

prisma yacht
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When are server bets coming back

brittle basin
lofty fern
prisma yacht
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Irene is like 67 years old

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amirite or amirite

lofty fern
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Geezzz

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You added on like 30 more years 😭

prisma yacht
hardy stratus
lofty fern
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My mom's not even that old

hardy stratus
brittle basin
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OLD

urban lodge
ashen perch
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they said illustrations for the top characters this time and not just illustration (singular), I wonder what they are going to force Oda to do

wraith mantle
prisma yacht
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UNC UNC UNC UNC UNC

ashen perch
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they surely wont force him to draw like 10 different illustrations JuPeter

lofty fern
prisma yacht
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UNC QLERTS

brittle basin
hardy stratus
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I am <25 and people call me unc here

brittle basin
ashen perch
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we might not get a color spread

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but lets see

lofty fern
lofty fern
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You can't change colors!

urban lodge
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It's probably more work to draw them all individually lmao

ashen perch
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I am sure yeah

brittle basin
ashen perch
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well tbf the color spread Oda did draw was more work than just drawing the top 10 characters

ashen perch
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those were 3+ color spreads stiched together lol

brittle basin
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I would like a color spread, please

ornate tartan
brittle basin
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I don't care about illustrating the voting results unless it's gonna be as cool as a color spread

hardy stratus
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I am a kid

urban lodge
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It is called the top 100 so I imagine the "top-ranking characters" is the entire top 100 like it was last time

brittle basin
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that's......a lot

thick mango
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i kinda doubt hes gonna draw 100 character

brittle basin
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but I won't even feel sorry for Oda.

thick mango
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thatd be cool

urban lodge
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He did last time...

brittle basin
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you made your bed, lie in it

thick mango
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really? thats crazy

ashen perch
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yeah he drew every single one into one massive sized color spread

hardy stratus
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What is current Character count at yet

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1700?

brittle basin
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too many

hardy stratus
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I wanna see if it overtakes Wheel of Time

ashen perch
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3 color spreads together

ashen perch
hardy stratus
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Cuz that has 2560 named characters

urban lodge
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1567

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And no I'm not joking about the 67

thick mango
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im skeptical thats 100 chars

green quiver
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rip bozo fun while it lasted

brittle basin
ornate tartan
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until u touch 40 u can’t be considered a unc

ashen perch
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yeah I just checked, 1567

ornate tartan
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people lost their minds

ashen perch
grand flower
ashen perch
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every single one, even the meme votes like namur

hardy stratus
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So 2560 ain't gonna be beaten

lofty fern
ashen perch
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he did a top 100 color spread last time

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and top 10 color spread before that

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and just nothing in all the polls before it

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oh actually he did a top 10 color spread twice

urban lodge
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Only top 10 is so lame though, I hope he does the entire 100 again, or at least top 50

ashen perch
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5-6 had a top ten color spread
7 had a top 100 color spread
8 is unclear

grand flower
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Oh I mean

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I’d expect a color spread going forward

prisma yacht
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I need 6-7 more color spreads in this arc

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Is it possible

hardy stratus
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With these 67

golden jacinth
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What 😭😭😭

ashen perch
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5th and 6th poll color spreads

ashen perch
grand flower
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Everything is PFP worthy

urban lodge
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I wonder what character will rank 67th

rose rune
gentle terrace
prisma yacht
ashen perch
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uhh, last time it was maybe Hiriluk? idk

grand flower
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Oda loves just having characters be there doing shit why Dofy flying alongside Luffy on a dragon

grand flower
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Wait…

ashen perch
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he excluded the SHs from that one too to include more characters lol

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Luffy aside though

grand flower
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Kaido foreshadowing?

ashen perch
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that is a pretty azure dragon

grand flower
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The top 10

grand flower
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Luffy just always innit

ashen perch
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nah, Doflamingo is like #16

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but Oda still included him

grand flower
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Wait no

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You’re right

gentle terrace
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Imu gonna be top 10

grand flower
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It is excluding SHs

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My fault

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I see what you mean

ashen perch
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npnp

royal orchid
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30 golds per white smh

grand flower
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Didnt he do something that was straight up a top 10

thick mango
grand flower
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I could have sworn maybe I always misunderstood that

urban lodge
ashen perch
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you actually counted qbz thats crazy

grand flower
thick mango
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it really didnt seem like 100

pallid niche
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i love the fan art of Luffy teaming up with BB and Doffy against Imu

gentle terrace
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Imu, is probably gonna be one of the top non SH in the popularity poll, if not the top besides them

grand flower
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How could anyone say OP is bloated when it gives us heat like that

ashen perch
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how many did you count again?

ornate tartan
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imu won’t even be in the top 25 in the poll

ashen perch
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maybe Oda only did the top 60

gentle terrace
thick mango
grand flower
ashen perch
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I could swear that woopslap was there

grand flower
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Powers scalers will love it

thick mango
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i got woopslap hes on top of the merry

strong wadi
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Im pretty sure he did top 50 and added some relevant characters like kaido and bm for example

grand flower
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His name is really woop slap

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Does that mean anything in Japanese

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Also I wonder if Jew Wall is meant to be Jewel and it’s a hidden name

ashen perch
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no that is his name, theres a space after jew

grand flower
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Oh that’s a guy

ashen perch
grand flower
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I thought Jew Wall was a place

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That’s even more bizarre

strong wadi
urban lodge
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I counted 61 characters

ashen perch
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youre right Adam

urban lodge
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Did you count the Merry? Smh

ashen perch
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top 50 with some other characters from the top 100 makes a lot more sense yeah

urban lodge
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Oda is a cheater

gentle terrace
strong wadi
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Hawkins and Big mom are in the 80s (sadly), for example

gentle terrace
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Napoleon is bottom left

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Lol

urban lodge
trim lily
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i’m still kind of shocked how unpopular kaido and big mom were in the poll

hardy stratus
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What we talking about

urban lodge
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Did he have his own spot on the poll?

trim lily
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in their own arc no less

strong wadi
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He added all the Supernova despite many not making top 50, and then kaido/bm

hardy stratus
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still the mid poll?

gentle terrace
strong wadi
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oh, and all warlords too i guess

ashen perch
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other characters were simply more popular lol

urban lodge
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It's 63 if we count him and Salome

ashen perch
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BM was like 70 in her own arc to be clear

urban lodge
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If I didn't miss any

trim lily
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like 50th and 80th at the peak of the arc they’re in…

gentle terrace
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If this is top 60, where’s gaimon, is this the first world wide popularity poll?

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Or what we talking about

trim lily
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actually that isn’t too crazy with how other series polls go

ashen perch
trim lily
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recency bias doesnt come into play too hard

strong wadi
gentle terrace
trim lily
urban lodge
ashen perch
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and 45 more to go

trim lily
ashen perch
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or was it 1005?

gentle terrace
ashen perch
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I think it wraps up after the first roof piece stretch, so probably 1005

trim lily
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i wonder how low imu will be

ashen perch
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still got 50 left

urban lodge
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Imu top 50-60

ashen perch
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Imu will be high

urban lodge
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If they changed his image he'd be top 15

trim lily
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i fear you overestimate the masses

ashen perch
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the results are very unpredictable this time though, the fanbase has changed a ton

urban lodge
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But this poll is rigged against Imu and in favor of Rocks

gritty vigil
trim lily
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the people love her

gentle terrace
remote maple
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carrot has always been popular

gentle terrace
trim lily
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despite oda’s wishes

wooden sigil
gentle terrace
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I don’t like carrot that much, I don’t understand

remote maple
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cute fluffy bunny

trim lily
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i like her

remote maple
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it aint that complicated

trim lily
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she’s fun and has a cool power

wooden sigil
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I hate furries

gentle terrace
urban lodge
wooden sigil
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You are a wise man

wooden sigil
remote maple
gritty vigil
wooden sigil
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Rocks is the strongest bar Imu and Joyboy

trim lily
urban lodge
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Unironically with Rocks

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Like completely putting my hatred of him aside, he wasn't all that

wooden sigil
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Bro took on Roger and Garp

urban lodge
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Loki has already far surpassed him

trim lily
wooden sigil
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Casually killed an admiral

remote maple
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he was reversed

trim lily
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ragnir does clear though

dense snow
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Power portrayal wise... I have seen no better portrayal than rocks. It's just the obvious assumption that places wb and roger above him

gentle terrace
urban lodge
distant vine
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Gonna be a rough day for Iris when she realizes she cant escape death just by leaving the flashback

ashen perch
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and against much weaker versions of Roger and Garp

distant vine
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The curse is coming for her no matter how long she runs

gentle terrace
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Domi reversi makes u stronger so obviously he’d be able to clash with them

trim lily
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rocks was scared to fight gunko in mariejois

urban lodge
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So true

royal orchid
wooden sigil
royal orchid
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these twitter people don't deserve human rights

urban lodge
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Their floor was lower

prisma yacht
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Bro

ashen perch
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Dorry and Brogy were barely even allowed to fight in it lol

distant vine
strong wadi
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Killer 56 (WG)
Kaido 65 (Yonko)
Urouge 70 (WG)
Gecko Moria 74 (Warlord)
Karoo 75 (Vivi association I guess)
Hawkins 82 (WG)
Bonney 85 (WG)
Big Mom 86(Yonko)
Kuma 98 (Warlord)
Capone Bege 158 (WG)
Apoo 169 (WG)
Salome 321 (Boa associated)

X-drake making top 50 and not being a pity add is crazy

trim lily
wooden sigil
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No plausible reason to believe non domi reverse Rocks could not mid diff either garp or Roger alone

ashen perch
urban lodge
gentle terrace
urban lodge
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The most impressive thing he did on screen was attack a 5 year old giant

wooden sigil
ashen perch
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theres no reason to think that he even ''casually'' killed that admiral lol, all assumptions

trim lily
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rocks clears the child 1v1 šŸ”„

distant vine
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How many chapters did I say I was gonna give Oda before I crashout on Domi Reversi? 3?

hardy stratus
distant vine
wooden sigil
ashen perch
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no he wasnt

trim lily
prisma yacht
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He was covered in blood

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No?

trim lily
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rocks was pretty injured yeah

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at least when he met harald

prisma yacht
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Anyways

ashen perch
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yeah, that was after the admiral died

prisma yacht
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Kid bm was admiral lvl

gentle terrace
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Tiktok animated manga edit knowledge

trim lily
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so like did he just say hi to imu then peacefully leave

wooden sigil
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Cant send images šŸ˜’

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But no he wasnt

distant vine
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But overall its a pretty dull ability now

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Uninteresting

trim lily
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it’s very boring yes

ashen perch
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I can post them for you

trim lily
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at the very least it’s counter isn’t just acoc

ashen perch
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thats clearly blood

wooden sigil
ashen perch
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thats not before the admiral is killed lol

wooden sigil
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Bro was fine

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Side quested a top tier

ashen perch
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theres a sequence here

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you posted the page on the right

wooden sigil
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Bitch slapped Garling after bejng jumped by him and demon family

near scroll
ashen perch
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but that happens before he fights the admiral

urban lodge
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Every time I look at him I can't get over how ugly he is

trim lily
ornate tartan
strong wadi
near scroll
wooden sigil
royal orchid
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@ashen perch found an image you might like

trim lily
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goda

ashen perch
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sure yea, thats definitely not casual tho

near scroll
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akainu doesnt have the tactical prowess

ashen perch
wooden sigil
ashen perch
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I have seen it and noticed this stuff already

pallid niche
trim lily
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good bit

ashen perch
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uhh

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its Pirate Warriors 4

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lol

trim lily
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uhh same thing

strong wadi
hardy stratus
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Real

ashen perch
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lmao

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Oda does get consulted on the games

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they showed ACoC before Oda showed ACoC

near scroll
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i still wonder what the eyes on imu are for, like fruit awakenings usually have like regular clouds but his has eyes

gentle terrace
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Bottom right

trim lily
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they had no clue what to do for shanks in the games lmao

distant vine
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Has anyone EVER put red lines in their theory and end up right?

trim lily
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no

royal orchid
hardy stratus
ashen perch
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I am sure they arent making this stuff up, you cannot possibly think that that the guy who has 16 other things in common with Imu also just coincidentally happens to have an attack name called ''Mu'' and ''Imu(16) Day Moon''

trim lily
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whenever i see red lines i just think of the ā€œdid you see it -> ā­• ā€œ video

ashen perch
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at one point youre just being in denial about this stuff, its silly

hardy stratus
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I just don't like these stuff being outside the main medium

ashen perch
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you can say you dont like the idea, it'd be a lot easier than to deny it

hardy stratus
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which is manga

hardy stratus
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SBS barely get a pass from me because they are within the manga

gentle terrace
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Red line

wooden sigil
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Doffy negs

hardy stratus
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I hate Vivre Cards with passion

trim lily
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vivre cards should only be used for auxiliary facts or non important info

gentle terrace
ashen perch
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I dont mind them but wouldnt use them for theories

trim lily
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like tell me what astrology sign urouge is

hardy stratus
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or their fav drink

ashen perch
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look, I was a video game theory denier before

ashen perch
hardy stratus
ashen perch
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and I denied it

hardy stratus
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I am not in denial

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I just hate it

ashen perch
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it was silly for me to do that, in hindsight

wooden sigil
trim lily
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you’re gonna feel silly when jump force story mode ends up being canonized in one piece

upbeat yarrow
# gentle terrace

imma be blunt, people that didnt see buggy becoming an emperor given how one piece puts narrative and comedy over anything were coping hard all along

ashen perch
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like hate that Oda was probably involved in devising a moveset for Mihawk?

spice cairn
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The Virgin Mihawk vs the chad Shiryu

hardy stratus
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Story and character beats important to the narrative should be integrated within the narrative organically

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not fed to me through intetview or shit

ashen perch
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I dont see a reason to hate that, Mihawk has nothing so he gave the Video Game creators something

upbeat yarrow
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even i knew that was gonna happen and i started reading in late WCI

royal orchid
gentle terrace
spice cairn
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Shiryu SBS coming

hardy stratus
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if not for building anticipation and shit

ashen perch
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its all going to come into play in the main story lol

royal orchid
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the Shiryu backstory will break the internet

hardy stratus
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for the reveal to hit yiu

near scroll
ashen perch
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the video game stuff is just a cheeky little reference

hardy stratus
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Just tell a bullet point and give is

trim lily
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i think you might overestimate oda’s involvement in these things arsal

grand flower
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How woukd Yall feel if Eris was luffys mom

spice cairn
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The Shiryu breakdown will feed countries

spice cairn
hazy turret
spice cairn
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Not a fan of that lmao

hardy stratus
spice cairn
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Eris isn't a whore

upbeat yarrow
hardy stratus
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like dude just tell the story points in a bullet in interview
As 'it will come into play in main story later" anyway

ashen perch
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its just a cleverly hidden reference that Oda probably thought nobody would think about, its not too deep

upbeat yarrow
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thatd be fucking weird though

grand flower
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All funny responses I’m ngl

spice cairn
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Are you giving up on Tritoma?

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Shuron cmon man

grand flower
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How old was Roger in me valley

grand flower
near scroll
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i still feel dragons wife is some unnamed celestial dragon who had humanity left in them

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yall are reading way to much into ts

trim lily
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we need more believers in dragon had no wife

trim lily
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luffy spawned

spice cairn
spice cairn
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Dragons in OP metaphorize their offspring

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Same goes to Kaido

trim lily
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the entire monkey line does actually

sonic salmon
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i think luffy's mom never gonna be revealed

spice cairn
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Kaido's DF allowed for metaphorsis\

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Loki can too

ashen perch
trim lily
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why do you think we’ve heard nothing about garp’s wife either

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true he had a husband

grand flower
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Jesus Christ Roger was 39 in me valley

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Nvm

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It’s not Eris

ashen perch
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Imu spit out Mihawk and Nami as eggs from his mouth

trim lily
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don’t twist my idea into something evil

grand flower
royal orchid
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neronami hawk

ashen perch
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you know that character shuron

near scroll
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or dragon cracked imu āœŒļø

ashen perch
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the one

hardy stratus
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😭

ashen perch
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😭

distant vine
gentle terrace
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Kong coming back into the story soon, trust me

ashen perch
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I knew you would Indi

spice cairn
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Sommers did actually

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Sommers lays eggs

grand flower
trim lily
ashen perch
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its important to note that Maki uses the same kanji that that man wears on his Gi, the Kanji for Demon

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MA

royal orchid
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lmao bullet points on a slide

grand flower
distant vine
ashen perch
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Omen Makenkosappo soon

distant vine
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Everyone's Joyboy all the time. No good

spice cairn
grand flower
ashen perch
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well we did have Omen beams already

grand flower
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Fr*

spice cairn
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140p Parallelism Piece

ashen perch
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yeah

grand flower
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And a omen force field

wooden sigil
distant vine
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Yall both spelt it wrong

trim lily
grand flower
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Barrier I mean

distant vine
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Tho idk if I can get it right tbf

wooden sigil
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Oda already said he doesnt really care about the powerscale lol

ashen perch
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its a instead of e I know Indi

gentle terrace
distant vine
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LIAR

ashen perch
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that was a typo

distant vine
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He never said that

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Oda loves powerscaling

spice cairn
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It spawned a top 5 YT thumbnail

ashen perch
#

makenkosappo

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but regardless

grand flower
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@ashen perch Inu being a reference to that character would actually be so heat

ashen perch
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I think Oda has been inspired by that guy

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but I need more proof, hopefully soon

fallen meteor
ashen perch
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also no offense but the Sommers idea is so underwhelming

spice cairn
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Pai de Nami Revelado

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Chapter name

ashen perch
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its just

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Oda has not been saving Nami's lineage his entire life

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for her to be related to just ''Sommers''

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like thats just not happening

spice cairn
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We are shitposting Arsal

distant vine
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I think Oda has only one more "This character is related to CD's" left in him

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Any more than that and its kinda tired I feel

spice cairn
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You genuinely believing me was a mistake

fast pagoda
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THAT character

ashen perch
fast pagoda
spice cairn
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I for one, think Nami should be related to every orange hair character

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Like a metaphorsis skinwalker way

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If we haven't had Imu's colors yet, I hope he has orange hair

ashen perch
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Oda told the director of Strong World and Gold that its too early to delve into the all important secret of Nami's birth, this is going to be a special special reveal I am sure

near scroll
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imu would look unbelievably chopped with orange hair

spice cairn
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Imu is chopped regardless

near scroll
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FKKK NOO

spice cairn
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Pick your poison\

urban lodge
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But Sommers is a funnier option

ashen perch
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you dont know?

hardy stratus
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So info is.being told through interviews too

ashen perch
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hinted...

hardy stratus
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Critical anticipation buildinf

distant vine
final trench
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Nami is royalty

royal orchid
wooden sigil
# gentle terrace Crocodile had 2 years

Just saying.
Doffy is still relevant to the story with the secret of Marie Jois and Law's arc need closure.
Theres no way to reintroduce him after the massive powercliff we had since Dressrosa without powering him up

fallen meteor
final trench
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Plus we still dk bout OYKOT

spice cairn
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I think you'd have to accept that OP is such a big story that supplemary material will be a good way to keep up.

royal orchid
ashen perch
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Q: Did you have any intention to show Nami's past here (referring to Nami's non canon flashback in Film Gold)

Oda: No, thats what Mr. Kuroiwa, the scriptwriter thought about so I just allowed it. I told him not to over visiting on the character. Maybe he thought of Karina as a character that resembles nami. Mr. Kuroiwa was also the one who created both Karina and Mad Treasure, so no, it wasn't in my plan at all.

I also have thought of a completely different (past) story for her. Of course, a "Nami's real parents..." story is too much for a film, but as long as it doesn't overlap with the original manga, it was OK"

Source: One Piece Gold Backstage Pass

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is what he said

gentle terrace
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Nami ain’t related to anyone of importance, not everyone with unknown parents has to be related to someone super important, if that was the case, id hate it, i want the hard working, sad backstory girl from a small town in the east blue to be in the crew of the king of the pirates, not some ā€œdaughter of super important characterā€

spice cairn
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Its not like ODA is making that hard lmao, he literally spoonfeeds you this info

near scroll
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namis dad might lk be spencer ngl

fallen meteor
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The only time i visited an pt channel for one piece was to get funny thumbnails

distant vine
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Its not like as a reader you have to know Oda has/had something in mind for Nami

ashen perch
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I feel like Oda mentioned this stuff in the interviews because people were overlooking Oykot

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and the mystery of it all

hardy stratus
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Idk this still counts for me.

ashen perch
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its a bit of a reminder, it builds anticipation for what he's planning to do

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later on

hardy stratus
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And is incredibly stupid

distant vine
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All he said was hes not putting the story in the movie

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😭

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Isnt that what you want?

hardy stratus
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Don't even say anything that would pertain to critical narrative

ashen perch
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hes literally saying that it should NOT overlap with what he's eventually planning to do with the manga, thats great!

hardy stratus
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just avoid it

obtuse perch
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you realize oda doesn't have total creative control over the anime right

distant vine
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Its also quite normal for Oda to hint in SBS and Q&A's that he'll cover something later at another time

obtuse perch
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less so for movies

hardy stratus
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and use interview for idk
"real life nationalities"
'fav hobby'
And the horny questions

fallen meteor
#

šŸ™‚

ashen perch
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I see it as no different than the Jump Festa statements, which are arguably even worse

rose rune
ashen perch
hardy stratus
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I was already adapted to it

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and then I discover this

ashen perch
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eh fair, but they ask Oda to market the series, its important to them

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Shueisha I mean

fallen meteor
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Lock oda in a room and let him leave when its done /s

hardy stratus
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I understand the reasoning completely

ashen perch
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the best way to do it is to hint at the future of the series basically

distant vine
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Manga readers would not like me if I was in charge lmao

hardy stratus
#

but doesn't change that I don't like it

distant vine
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All of you would be required to watch Strong World, which would be a canon movie

hardy stratus
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I would hate you

obtuse perch
brittle basin
hardy stratus
spice cairn
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I have total control of OP btw

distant vine
ashen perch
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I am actually scared for the 30th anniversary, they get Oda to do some real silly things every 10 years

hardy stratus
#

Two of my fav ongoing

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both do this shit

obtuse perch
prisma yacht
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Nerona mi is real

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Goro is in denial

urban lodge
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See Goro this is why I have my doubts about Blackbeard lol

prisma yacht
hardy stratus
prisma yacht
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Bro tried to sneak in bb

hardy stratus
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Because that and this is different elements

brittle basin
hardy stratus
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one is about in story decision

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another is meta marketing

urban lodge
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Eh it has commonalities

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Oh I don't care about the marketing thing

prisma yacht
hardy stratus
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GOAT

pallid niche
hardy stratus
ashen perch
hardy stratus
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It's about info being revealed outside of main manga

distant vine
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Based

brittle basin
ashen perch
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well 100% of the Nerona Mi theory is based in the manga smh

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I just post Oda's statements because people deny the importance of her past altogether

distant vine
ashen perch
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because they refuse to even acknowledge that theres something there

ashen perch
hardy stratus
prisma yacht
hardy stratus
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That's the significance given to a character

urban lodge
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Yw

ashen perch
hardy stratus
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beyond the original manga

fallen meteor
pallid niche
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im confused why people think Nami would be a Nerona though

distant vine
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Manga readers when Joyboy genuinely gets a face reveal in the movie:

pallid niche
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like of all the mysterious backstories to give her

hardy stratus
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It's only the movie

ashen perch
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people need to hear it straight from Oda to drop their denial, thats all there is to it

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not true

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Oykot is a mystery, it always has been

hardy stratus
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It's not like Sanji's Jaya moment that hints to something else being there

soft tangle
royal orchid
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@fallen meteor was it you who watched northernlion

fallen meteor
prisma yacht
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Yeah Icl I don't see the NEED to dig in nami's birth

royal orchid
hardy stratus
ashen perch
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An island that got destroyed with literally no survivors outside of Nojiko and Nami, I started wondering about it while I was watching the series for the first time already lol

pallid niche
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imo the theory that Oykot was the site of a native hunting competition makes sense

brittle basin
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Oykot is still the dumbest fucking name lol

ashen perch
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and yeah, theres the name

hardy stratus
urban lodge
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Sommers tragically lost his daughter Nami during a native hunt on Oykot

ashen perch
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it stands out a lot

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which is good

brittle basin
hardy stratus
ashen perch
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Oda clearly wants the name to stand out lol

brittle basin
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ur an oykot

hardy stratus
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That's all

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I hate this theory already with that interview

ashen perch
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you can also just choose to ignore the interview and focus on the story

hardy stratus
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even tho I can clearly see it being a site of CD hunting competition

ashen perch
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like the Nojiko thing I brought up yesterday

pallid niche
brittle basin
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Nami being a CD or Nerona is just so funny to think about

hardy stratus
fallen meteor
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So if Oykot is the name then maybe namis real name is Iman

ashen perch
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Why would she leave during the speech? what was the point? what did Oda not want her to hear?

fallen meteor
ashen perch
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it is

fallen meteor
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Solved piece

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Thank me

pallid niche
hardy stratus
fallen meteor
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Fuck

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Inam

hardy stratus
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and things might me multiple things yes

fallen meteor
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Wait no

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Why are you confusing me

ashen perch
hardy stratus
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Aligned character and meta reason

brittle basin
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Luffy learns Nami has CD blood and punches her like Charlos. BBWise

hardy stratus
ashen perch
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There is literally going to be nothing more important that she could do, but Oda has her ignore the speech anyways

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like even random pirates heard VP more closely than her lol

brittle basin
#

what speech?

spice cairn
#

Nami has Ulti's blood

ashen perch
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VP's speech

hardy stratus
brittle basin
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I don't think I ever paid attention to who was listening to it. didn't realize that was important.

hardy stratus
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I would he like Nojiko and ignore it

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I think its good when its both character behavior and meta reason aligned !

ashen perch
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ehh, I think if I knew who VP was, I would listen carefully

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and VP is world famous

distant vine
#

Lemme ask you this Arsal: Why did Imu go for Gunko and not Nami?

pallid niche
ashen perch
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I dont think he's aware of her existence

final trench
final trench
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Forever rivals

distant vine
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He asexually birthed her and is unaware?

spice cairn
#

Gunko has blue hair hence gives him the Vivi Great Value host

pallid niche
prisma yacht
ashen perch
hardy stratus
#

Again Arsal
Would you not be satisfied if Nami's just a survivor of native hunting

iron oriole
fallen meteor
distant vine
ashen perch
#

I dont think that aligns with the multiple connections Goro

hardy stratus
#

That's a interesting added depth to her origin

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And direct connection for Luffy

fallen meteor
#

Wait whats the opposite color of vivi's blue

iron oriole
#

Red?

fallen meteor
hardy stratus
distant vine
#

Why would Bellemere be sent in to stop a Native hunt?

iron oriole
#

I always default to Red vs Blue anyway

hardy stratus
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Of some kind

ashen perch
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oh I meant to say to penny

spice cairn
#

Blue hair DOES matter

pallid niche
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Bellemere would essentially have the same role that Dragon did on God Valley

hardy stratus
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Make it excuse as a civil war make sense

spice cairn
#

Blue sisters

urban lodge
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Imu is a freak

brittle basin
#

does this upscale belle mere? why did arlong no diff her???????

ashen perch
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if you remember the process video, Gunko was almost blonde in that

urban lodge
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Oda can make it matter

ashen perch
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I dont think Oda would be making her blonde if the hair color mattered

brittle basin
hardy stratus
#

I can easily see them doing like

spice cairn
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Well good thing Oda's editors are smarter than him and convinced him to make it blue

hardy stratus
#

do native hunting

iron oriole
hardy stratus
#

then someone tests a new drug

spice cairn
#

Pretty much yeah

hardy stratus
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which leads to a massacre/civil war

ashen perch
spice cairn
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Why would he randomly make it blue if he was deadset on blonde

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Lmao

hardy stratus
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then send navy to counter it

fallen meteor
spice cairn
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Last minute change btw

fallen meteor
hardy stratus
#

So it has actual humans for testimonies

brittle basin
hardy stratus
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Good coverup

spice cairn
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I wish Nami had orange skin

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Like a Tangerine

iron oriole
# ashen perch at the last second

I'd say thats more evidence that it is important, if he was flirting with her hair colour, we would have probably seen more colours

spice cairn
#

^

ashen perch
#

we did

prisma yacht
ashen perch
#

I am pretty sure he swaps through like 3-4 different colors

iron oriole
#

Got a link to it? Idr

brittle basin
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until oda says otherwise after the fact, I will take the blue hair as important to Imu

ashen perch
spice cairn
hardy stratus
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Imu doesn't want Vivi?

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I think it would be clearer after Cobra conversation

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for Imu

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and since he's still going after her

iron oriole
#

I find it interesting that Imu seemingly hesitated a bit when it came to what i imagine to be freeing Gunko

spice cairn
ashen perch
#

well, if Vivi is meant to be a vessel

spice cairn
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He doesn't want her you say

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How aupsicious

urban lodge
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And her poster was the only one that wasn't torn up

fallen meteor
brittle basin
distant vine
ashen perch
#

and I think thats the case, I dont think Imu desires her because he's a freak or whatever

spice cairn
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Vivi is destined to be a vessel

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The perfect vessel

brittle basin
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imu wants vivi for something. we'll find out what it is

iron oriole
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100% a vessel

spice cairn
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Not for any freaky reasons

distant vine
rose rune
ashen perch
spice cairn
brittle basin
spice cairn
#

I would never complain about OP ever again

rose rune
ashen perch
#

for now, he's fixated on Vivi, thats cool

distant vine
#

We got Luffy vs Zoro and Luffy vs Sanji

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Time for Luffy vs Nami?

ashen perch
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Im pretty sure the chapter where he punches Vivi is titled Luffy v Vivi lol

iron oriole
spice cairn
#

Welp, Invincible Vs just came out, see you next week guys

fallen meteor
iron oriole
#

Nami oneshots Luffy all the time

spice cairn
fallen meteor
spice cairn
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Very gemmy

ashen perch
#

also goro you asked me about the full theory but tbh I do need to write it properly someday, I only have like bullet points

dark nymph
ashen perch
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theres other Nerona Mi theorists, who do touch upon my ideas

hardy stratus
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you can give me bullet points

rose rune
iron oriole
hardy stratus
#

even tho I switched to a pc from a phone to properly discuss...

ashen perch
#

but they are kinda not exactly aligned with my ideas

hardy stratus
#

I can make do with bullet points

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smh

dark nymph
hardy stratus
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So I had to carry extension cord, a 300W charger and my heavy ass laptop for nothing

rose rune
ashen perch
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lmao

fallen meteor
dark nymph
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err thats still gag dialogue

ashen perch
#

okay so I should get the thing you'd hate out of the way Goro

prisma idol
ashen perch
#

This is the Volume Comment illustration for Volume 104

hardy stratus
#

oh hell nah

iron oriole
ashen perch
#

look

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its part of the volume

hardy stratus
#

okay

ashen perch
#

its part of the manga

hardy stratus
#

yeah I can understand

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I thought it was like

rose rune
hardy stratus
#

idk a snes game

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or smth

ashen perch
#

oh no Oda drew that

prisma idol
hardy stratus
#

that oda "supervised"

prisma yacht
#

Let's have a server bet on this whether nami is going to have a special origin or nah

ashen perch
#

so I assume you can understand where I am going with that

iron oriole
prisma yacht
obtuse perch
# iron oriole

... where do they keep the punishment cage? like does nami call for it to be set up?

hardy stratus
#

would her place being a cd hunting ground be a special origin stink

ashen perch
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A Demonic Imu like figure, has Nami captured, Luffy's the one fighting him to free her

hardy stratus
#

yea

ashen perch
#

this is a big part of why I think Vivi is the red herring too

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its actually Nami who will end up getting captured by him, as a vessel

hardy stratus
#

first question

fallen meteor
#

What if Nami's real name is Vivi

hardy stratus
#

Wouldn't the conversation with Cobra determine if Vivi was the actual target ?

prisma yacht
#

I honestly want to believe that the hunting contests were disbanded after gv

rose rune
ashen perch
#

the idea is that he doesnt know about Nami Goro

prisma yacht
#

Garp and sengoku made them do it

hardy stratus
#

so both Vivi and Nami are suitable hosts?

iron oriole
hardy stratus
#

and Nami is more suitable?

ashen perch
#

yup

hardy stratus
#

so Vivi being a D makes it difficult

ashen perch
#

perhaps, or Nami being a Nerona makes it easier

hardy stratus
#

so Cobra's wife is someone related to Imu?

#

a plant?

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a tool?

hardy stratus
#

but Imu didn't know about D. of Nefeltari

#

and it made it difficult?

ashen perch
#

I am getting to that actually

#

Imu has known about the Nefertari all along really

urban lodge
#

It looked like he knew, or at least suspected it, and wanted to hear it directly from Cobra's mouth

hardy stratus
#

he has shown a shocked reaction

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hmmm

#

then I might have misremembered

urban lodge
#

Yeah it wasn't shock

ashen perch
#

he atleast suspected it, because he catches Cobra

urban lodge
#

He just squints

hardy stratus
#

I don't understand what made Vivi a host?

ashen perch
#

hes the one to tell Cobra that he is hiding Lili's name on purpose

prisma yacht
#

Also isn't it almost 2 years + since we started following shs journey.
The gap between the tourneys is of 3years we shld be having it by now or soon if its practice isnt continued

prisma idol
#

If Nami is the spawn of the devil Imu, it adds extra dynamics for the LuNa possibility, like parallels between luffy's god form and Nami's demon heritage.... it would be so peak....

ashen perch
#

so true

hardy stratus
#

bluko I have already read too much fanfiction of pirate king Luffy and queen Nami in my youth that it's already canon for me

ashen perch
#

Imu knows that Cobra is hiding the name on purpose here

fallen meteor
#

Maybe nami is a devil fruit
Like imu is the devil and nami is a fruit from him

ashen perch
#

''tell Mu the proper name of the sender''

prisma idol
#

Nerona Nami would be the funniest outcome which makes me want it to happen

hardy stratus
#

yeah it's evident

prisma yacht
hardy stratus
#

I forgot the detail of this page okay

rose rune
ashen perch
#

so, he has known about the Nefertaris, why has he not gone after like Titi for example? Cobra's wife or any of her ancestors?

hardy stratus
#

why would Vivi even be a suitable option

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for host

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or w/e

ashen perch
#

I think Vivi is a 2nd choice born out of necessity, he had another in mind