also-manga

[urban kiln]

They should make Rockstar related to Shanks

[graceful belfry]

Child of destiny and such…

[brittle basin]

If Oda revealed Shanks had Joy Boy blood, I'd just go "yeah, sure, why not at this point."

[golden valley]

they tolerated meek for years

[cosmic hamlet]

Nice idea

[hazy turret]

He must be stopped

[leaden rivet]

Self inflicted

[brittle basin]

BB can kill Shanks

[cosmic hamlet]

I think the only red head female character in one piece is bellemere

[leaden rivet]

Meek can still come back so don’t talk about him like he’s gone forever lol

[golden valley]

true

[brittle basin]

Bellemere's hair is less red and more burgandy

[thick maple]

will*

[hazy turret]

And Kid

[urban kiln]

isnt that just a shade of red lol

[hardy stratus]

You are just setting yourself up to disappointment

[cosmic hamlet]

Is kid female?

[hazy turret]

Yeah

[golden valley]

no

[cosmic hamlet]

[brittle basin]

Yeah but I'm trying to separate it from the red of shanks

[golden valley]

why they tryna turn my goat into a bad bitch? Wtf

[urban kiln]

has Oda ever colored Bellemere or do we only have toei's coloring

[brittle basin]

Oda will reveal that I also have Joy Boy blood.

[cosmic hamlet]

Blame rokaya

[brittle basin]

Does the colored manga count? Is that considered official?

[hardy stratus]

Shanks is so obv the failed prophecized boy

[ashen perch]

Oda described it as fuchsia color

[leaden rivet]

Kid is your goat?

[ashen perch]

Oda has colored her hair yeah

[golden valley]

yes

[hazy turret]

Wdym bro he’s BEEN a bad bitch

[urban kiln]

nope, colored manga is not consulting Oda

[brittle basin]

i'm going to find it

[brittle basin]

LLLLLLLLL Oda should color it all himself

[opal gull]

Shanks will play a role till the end of the Final War vs Imu

Bb will die in the race to laughtale

[ashen perch]

I remember reading about it on the wiki, idk

[ruby cape]

FREE ARSALWISE

[dark nymph]

he wears lipstick and does his nails hes been a bad bitch

[hazy turret]

Someone send the worst generation gender bend

[ashen perch]

but I can find the official Oda colors of her atleast, I have all the Oda colored pages saved

[urban kiln]

me when I want free twitter updoots

[brittle basin]

Arsal is right. It is definitely fushcia or some shade of pink at least. Definitely not burgandy like the anime.

[urban kiln]

wheres this from

[hazy turret]

Grok, turn worst gen hq into a woman

[brittle basin]

Another Toei L.

[golden valley]

My goats are
•Zoro
•blackbeard
•Kuzan
•Joyboy
•Luffy
•Koby
•Kidd
And Imu might be making this list soon

[thick maple]

Has oda done bb gender bend

[grand flower]

Interesting that her hair is pink and it fits with momos haircut like puzzle pieces

[ruby cape]

Toei always frying the colour scheme

[grand flower]

Bellemere and Momo have exactly what each other is missing

[hazy turret]

Koby ruining what is otherwise an elite list

[brittle basin]

FUCK. Update, it's the colored manga. I thought it was Oda's work until I zoomed in. Back to the drawing board. One sec.

Here is Oda

[golden valley]

when will you let go of your koby hate

[brittle basin]

same basically

[urban kiln]

wheres this from

[leaden rivet]

Koby?

[golden valley]

Omg bruh

[golden valley]

Didnt know i was in enemy territory

[hazy turret]

I’m sorry, I need to go to therapy and do some unlearning

[urban kiln]

yeah but wheres it from?

[high wolf]

Mine is pretty similar, just replace Kuzan with Sanji

[brittle basin]

oh shit no idea. my guess is a cover story. let me reverse search

[ashen perch]

this is from Oda

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-don-quixotei-doflamingo-doflamingo-laugh-laughing-red-eyes-gif-17712835377502920135

[urban kiln]

Oda doesnt color cover stories. Thatd also be colored manga

[brittle basin]

misspoke. color spread*

[ashen perch]

back when he still used to do color pages

[urban kiln]

is this an actual color page in the manga?

[ashen perch]

yeah

[graceful belfry]

Oda’s a fraud

[brittle basin]

but it looks like it's a page from the manga. when did oda color it?

[graceful belfry]

Bring back color pages

[thick maple]

Damn she remindes me of rokaya 🤩

[brittle basin]

Oda did color some opening chapters before right? In pre-ts early early days?

[ashen perch]

in the original magazine release, he used to do color pages pretty often during East Blue and then moved on to just doing color spreads

only East Blue yeah

[brittle basin]

You've definitely got this on your HDD, the cloud, or some quick access to a site.

[ashen perch]

hdd lol

[brittle basin]

i knew it

i can do this now too. but i don't know where things are in the manga

[hazy turret]

Close enough!

[rose rune]

I was celebrating it with fireworks and stuff

[golden valley]

Yeah someone post the genderbent Worstgen image, they calling Kidd a bad bitch so i need to see the image again to confirm

[brittle basin]

Did your country treat it like a doomsday like we did?

[hazy turret]

He’s literally the baddest out of all of them

[ashen perch]

there are about 75 color pages from East Blue, 5 in Whiskey Peak and Drum Kingdom and then only 2 ever since 😔

[fallen meteor]

99 to 2000?

[golden valley]

Nvm found it

[brittle basin]

yeah

[urban kiln]

had to check, yeah it has the grey shitty scans that color pages get in the viz versions. So ye guess its just pink

[fallen meteor]

Top right my beloved

[thick maple]

Killer hear me out

[urban kiln]

bellemere is related to bonney confirmed?

[rose rune]

I remember there being mentions of it, and some people thinking the computers would get fucked up somehow

[ashen perch]

yupp

[brittle basin]

that's just regular basil

[fallen meteor]

Bug do milênio...
Planes were supposed to fall from the sky and every computer was going to blow up

[warm falcon]

remember to vote for Imu-chan

[urban kiln]

no because women smile and men dont

[brittle basin]

sick, yeah it was like that here too lol

[golden valley]

MY HEAR ME OUTS
•Kidd
•Law
•Killer
•Hawkins
•X Drake
AND MOST of all
•Apoo

[brittle basin]

and they also don't poop!

only men do

[fallen meteor]

You are so real for this

[ashen perch]

its a shame that Shueisha didnt learn from Oda's style smh

[fallen meteor]

Female apoo is oda's masterpiece

[rose rune]

Fem apoo is gorgeous

[warm falcon]

hi Marin

[brittle basin]

I wonder why they ever made choices that went against Oda's colors?

[ashen perch]

his colors look so much better and he doesnt ruin the empty space backgrounds like Shueisha

[fallen meteor]

Hello

[ashen perch]

they havent really, I just dont like the style

[urban kiln]

ye the zoro panel would be like a vibrant pink in shueisha's

lol

[warm falcon]

hello everyone

[surreal snow]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-arc-egghead-kuzan-aokiji-gif-11085569219624981875

[ashen perch]

yupp

[golden valley]

Keep in mind Doc Q can make this possible

Doc Q PLEASSSESE

[ashen perch]

REAL empty space

[golden valley]

clutch up

[brittle basin]

i mean like why is belle mere's hair a different shade by Toei? Why did they actively make that choice?

[prisma yacht]

Heya cristie

[ashen perch]

oh Toei just does its thing lol

[runic dock]

Oda: “it’s fine”

[brittle basin]

classic oda

[ashen perch]

like

[dark nymph]

oo

[brittle basin]

How much empty space do we get nowadays in the manga?

[ashen perch]

Toei also had this btw

[dark nymph]

I like Sanjis hair there

[ashen perch]

they still made Mihawk's eyes yellow

[brittle basin]

piss eyes

[ashen perch]

its so stupid

[runic dock]

I like the use of orange on the clothes to signify th glow of the fire

[graceful belfry]

They’re gonna feel real silly about this soon

[fallen meteor]

Activate piss vision

[hardy stratus]

Nerona Mihawk ?

[leaden rivet]

They should’ve just kept making Robin’s skin color dark if they aren’t planning on changing things

[brittle basin]

Nerona Mihawk is not real and cannot hurt you

[dark nymph]

anime only soon where Mihawk wears his colored contacts

[rose rune]

"I can see his piss tensing up... a cut from the right is coming"

[graceful belfry]

Indubitably

[hardy stratus]

I dont see it

[runic dock]

You’re right it’s not real

You’re wrong it can hurt me

[brittle basin]

time to suffer

[golden valley]

Lets just say Mihawk can change his eye color or something

[fallen meteor]

"Ive never felt such thick piss before...must be a sworsmaster"

[runic dock]

The shade of the sun in that particular time of day makes it glow red

[graceful belfry]

@ashen perch bring out the panels

[golden valley]

Red Eyes = Mihawk’s Demon powers
Yellow Eyes = Mihawk’s Dracula powers

https://tenor.com/view/speed-covering-mouth-stream-scary-speed-scared-gif-3435748839023247479

[prisma yacht]

Goro you don't see it bcs oda didn't want you to see it

[rose rune]

"The blacker the piss, the stronger the sword"

[ashen perch]

wait I dont have the panels prepared for Nerona Mihawk like that smh

[graceful belfry]

I’m about to get my haircut so I can’t grab them

[golden valley]

Yes

[graceful belfry]

Otherwise I would do it myself

[runic dock]

I need someone to ask Oda to personify Imu’s sword Nemesis

[ashen perch]

I think its happening, but its not in my list of theories that I am pushing immediately

[golden valley]

Did oda personify Yoru yet

[prisma yacht]

I'm so down for it

[golden valley]

I need to see that

[hardy stratus]

I don't see the point or a thematic reason for Oda to push it

[runic dock]

Yeah I think

[rose rune]

X drake?

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-emo-punk-hair-flip-gif-13673612

[runic dock]

Like he did for zoro’s swords and mihawks

[hardy stratus]

BB being rock's son, Shanks being prophecy's boy

[runic dock]

Perfection

[hardy stratus]

they have a point and purpose and it makes the story better

nerona mihawk, I don't see it

[rose rune]

It was a joke on drake being in sword, and being considered strong enough to be a nemisis

[grand flower]

That’s because we know nothing about Mihawk yet

[brittle basin]

Prophecy boy intentionally getting his arm bit off will never not be funny.

[runic dock]

Don’t give Drake that much credit

[hardy stratus]

That's fair yea

[prisma yacht]

Arsal actually had something on this

[runic dock]

He is nobody’s nemesis

[ashen perch]

I mean Imu used his Omen blade the same way as Mihawk, the name of the attack is a reference to the daughter of Night/Yoru (Nyx) Nemesis, and they are the only two characters in the series to actually have spiralled red eyes

[prisma yacht]

Related to morgan and helmeppo

[hardy stratus]

Again not foreshadowing Arsal

[ashen perch]

theres proof piling up here, bit by bit

[runic dock]

There is more

All the Christian iconography

[brittle basin]

Everyone is related and/or special. Goda.

[hardy stratus]

idc about foreshadowing

[cosmic hamlet]

Did someone call me?

[runic dock]

His dagger etc

[prisma yacht]

Am i winning son

[hardy stratus]

Like gimme a reason or a point he's making with it

[ashen perch]

and I guess you could say that his boat also resembles the empty throne

[cosmic hamlet]

Idk i was out

[golden valley]

Yoru comes from the abyss

[grand flower]

Mihawk speaks with the same cultural linguistics as CDs, and Oda made sure to depict his hypothetical child doing the same

[golden valley]

Yoru has devilish powers

[runic dock]

CHRISTIAN ICONOGRAPHY

[ashen perch]

indeed

[runic dock]

because Satan and stuff

[grand flower]

Probably related to his dynamic with Shanks

[ashen perch]

yeah

[hardy stratus]

In what way

[grand flower]

Mihawk at the very least seems to be Celestial Dragon

[rose brook]

is imu romanian

[brittle basin]

Bro I swear Japanese creators are such weeaboos for Christ. Play enough JRPGs and you'll see a pattern.

[grand flower]

I’m reading to find out like you are boss man

[fallen meteor]

Christaboos?

[hardy stratus]

Sorry for assuming the guy who had detailed time piece theory had this more thought out...

[ashen perch]

The descendant of Imu and the descendant of Joyboy, only this time, their friendship has actually remained strong

[runic dock]

Idk if “at the very least” , maybe , but it’s not significant of it yet , there is a connection but it’s extremely vague

Like my personal going thought is mihawk is from nerona Imu’s original country he used to rule

[cosmic hamlet]

You are losing

[hazy turret]

It could explain the start of the shanks mihawk rivalry I suppose

[golden valley]

I genuinely would like it if the hell-themed swords came from the abyss

[runic dock]

Before king of the world

[ashen perch]

on the Morgan thing fronsen

and I know it sounds silly

[prisma yacht]

Just checked it

I don't lose.

[prisma yacht]

No I like it

[cosmic hamlet]

They didn't even score 300, rr will win

[hardy stratus]

No chance

[runic dock]

20 kings all must have had their own countries they ruled , kings for a reason right ?

What’s nerona’s country of origin before he took the king of the world spot, which he didn’t always have?

Mihawk is from that kingdom

[prisma yacht]

Gtfo

[hardy stratus]

Hmmmmm

I think I would need more for that to work but that's a good direction I suppose

[ashen perch]

Morgan gets introduced in a chapter titled ''The Great Captain Morgan'' where the first line he says is ''I am so great'' and his men also refer to him as the Great One as that is his epithet. His whole gimmick is constantly yapping about his greatness, and in a sketch he's even directly referring to himself as the Great One. Who does that remind you of?

@grand flower you ignored this the last time smh

[hardy stratus]

Yeah I am not against Nerona Mihawk now

[runic dock]

@hardy stratus

[prisma yacht]

[hardy stratus]

Kuraigana ?

[fallen meteor]

Rome

[cosmic hamlet]

Bb

[fallen meteor]

Nero na

[ashen perch]

He's the character that introduces the darkness of the World Government to us, so its fitting that he be a reference to Imu himself.

[runic dock]

[royal orchid]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2048819133093929377

rie ⚡️ marineford (@sherrismoothie)

is this anything

Quoting crys 🥠 (@iamnotcrys)
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one piece men deserve waists and thighs 💔 this is outrageous

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FixupX · Apr 27, 2026, 5:38 PM

[warm falcon]

hi fro(n)zen

[hardy stratus]

Nero software tools!

[brittle basin]

I am against Nerona Mihawk on the sheer principle the world becomes smaller as more people are connected. Please, god, don't go any further with the Buggy/Rocks pose.

[ashen perch]

lies

[fallen meteor]

This and daemon tools..

[cosmic hamlet]

I will support you if you ditch neroma nami theory 😐

[ashen perch]

now its important to remember that he has a stupid chud son called Helmeppo

[fallen meteor]

Is there an italian kingdom

[brittle basin]

Wait does this mean Nami and Mihawk are connected then?

[runic dock]

Personally don’t think it’ll be blood ties , just country ties

[brittle basin]

Maybe Wanze is from there

[hardy stratus]

I think this isn't the case

[brittle basin]

I will take zero ties

[hardy stratus]

I think its selectively viewing it

[ashen perch]

and the very first proper fight in the series is Zoro/Luffy v Morgan/Helmeppo... it could be fitting if that was a hint to the last too

[ashen perch]

I cant.

[hardy stratus]

a strong thematic or emotional element adding is more important for me in stories

[cosmic hamlet]

Can BB even nullify imu powers?

[brittle basin]

The Rocks/Buggy pose is eerily similar.

[ashen perch]

Nerona Mi has a stronger chance here than Mihawk

[ashen perch]

I think this is a reference for sure

[indigo yacht]

Silhouettes that only show the eye hmm….

[ashen perch]

YOU SEE IT

[hardy stratus]

Uhh what's this now

What's the theory here

[cosmic hamlet]

Do you have any actual theory about it other than numbers?

[hardy stratus]

!patterns

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/728691851556552744/unknown.png

[ashen perch]

numbers arent my theories, they are a part of it.

[dark nymph]

so... Mihawks is Imus dad

[ashen perch]

Nerona Mihawk has no relation to numbers lol

[ashen perch]

oh I think he's a reference to Imu

[brittle basin]

Y'know, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, as the old saying goes.

[jaunty grail]

wdym

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[royal orchid]

so axe hand morgan is imu

and joyboy

[golden valley]

These are highkey, YT OP level theories

[ashen perch]

the number theories yknow?

[cosmic hamlet]

Was talking about nerona nami

[ashen perch]

so how come YT OP hasnt come up with it?

checkmate

[warm falcon]

this beer colour is wierd

[frigid gulch]

Official only ?

[golden valley]

Well they actually put out much worse for clickbait

[ashen perch]

if they were operating on my level, theyd be getting more stuff correct than they do (they getting nothing correct, ever)

[indigo yacht]

It was all foreshadowed

[frigid gulch]

We might be washed

[jaunty grail]

oh the yoru having 16 gemstones and imu's name translating to 16 thing?

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[hazy turret]

Mmm the feet are better, the legs might be a little too thick

[hardy stratus]

I like Nerona Mihawk WAY more than Nerona Nami arsal

[ashen perch]

thats a stretch though

[hardy stratus]

I feel first contributes to the story

[hazy turret]

Inb4 “no such thing as legs too thick”

[prisma yacht]

Oda had it all planned since day 1

[hardy stratus]

the latter doesn't

[prisma yacht]

No retcons

Lessgooo

[royal orchid]

oh the lobster is too buttery and the steak is too juicy

[prisma yacht]

This is my one piece

[indigo yacht]

No such thing as legs too thick

[ashen perch]

there arent 16 gemstones on Yoru drawn by Oda, only in a Toei sketch

[prisma yacht]

Hellyeahhh

[indigo yacht]

Your lobster is too buttery

[hardy stratus]

No such things as legs too thick

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-smoothie-smoothie-one-piece-big-mom-tea-party-gif-26034375

[royal orchid]

thank you rob

[prisma yacht]

Thick legs

Who's complaining

[dark nymph]

wow, literally improved Oda's fuck ass style

[hardy stratus]

This feels different meaning here

With that gongue

or is that intended meaning man

[golden valley]

God, i want to see her in the current story again

[hardy stratus]

[prisma yacht]

It always had one meaning

Smh

[jaunty grail]

yeah but yoru has like 16 moons in OPLA too and I'm pretty sure oda would've told them about it

[brittle basin]

BM pirates don't exist anymore

[golden valley]

Smoothie is top 10 op female character

[urban kiln]

they made them TOO thick lol. Original is better in this case. Something in between would be preferred

[indigo yacht]

Oda can draw thick legs when he wants (see: Oden) but chooses not to for pants

[brittle basin]

all you get is pudding

[hazy turret]

Don’t worry about it, kitten

[rose brook]

Shes fighting admirals right now

[quartz pulsar]

bm pirates exist outside of the manga

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/oden-dance-one-piece-kozuki-gif-21215699

[ashen perch]

but they also made his eyes yellow unfortunately, I doubt Oda would let that happen

[rose brook]

Everyone should believe in the marines invading whole cake theory

[dark nymph]

yeah I could see that, calves are thick asf especially

[prisma yacht]

I like ur name

[rose brook]

Thank you

[hardy stratus]

Yeah I think part of WG's plan would be to turn some of existing powerful yonko or other pirate crews

[rose brook]

Its another good theory

[hardy stratus]

so I def think WCI's are being invaded

[golden valley]

Arsal, what is like your most absolute wildest theory that you know everyone will disagree with

I need to know for the future

[rose brook]

Yes especially with the food shortage

[urban kiln]

legs look fine in Oda's manga though. I think they translate poorly to toei

[hardy stratus]

But they don't have a portal

[rose brook]

And they said the admirals are busy

[hardy stratus]

to WCI

[knotty dove]

Buggy will be the first one to reach laughtale

[ashen perch]

hmm

[hardy stratus]

Buggy will be PK no doubt fr

[ashen perch]

probably Usopp v Ju Peter?

[golden valley]

Theres a better panel of Loki for this

[ashen perch]

that ones been very poorly received

[hazy turret]

Big mom is alive

[hardy stratus]

Who cares about these theories man

[prisma yacht]

Are u sure everyone will disagree with this

[untold latch]

https://tenor.com/view/ren-and-chuck-they-laugh-laughter-funny-ren-hoek-gif-3400484135472490274

[indigo yacht]

Most often it’s a toei problem

[hardy stratus]

and why

[dark nymph]

Oda's issue is just the legs, I don't know why he hates them

[hardy stratus]

And shoes

[golden valley]

Really? Hmmm

[hardy stratus]

but for Arsal its not an issue ig

[golden valley]

Meh

[knotty dove]

Gym goer mentality 🔥

[indigo yacht]

Actually

Looking back on it his legs are pretty thick in the manga

[muted hedge]

i think the legs of toei look just too lanky

[golden valley]

I can buy that happening but not in a 1v1

[ashen perch]

I think Ju Peter is meant to be the evolution of his past opponents, like Miss Merry Christmas and Daruma

[warm falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-meme-gif-23342140

[muted hedge]

and the loin cloth piece way too undersized

[dark nymph]

kinda hard to tell am I blind lol

[digital spear]

Did Loki appear in the anime now

[hazy turret]

They’re perfect in the manga

[ashen perch]

oh no I think it'll be a 1v1

[urban kiln]

this is just true though. Oda doesn't include lines like this, with the person claiming it showing resolve on their face, without it being true.

[hazy turret]

Good shape and length

[indigo yacht]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/f/f6/Loki_frappe_avec_son_marteau.png/revision/latest?cb=20250314080644&path-prefix=fr

[cosmic hamlet]

Loki got animated?

[hardy stratus]

This was so hype

[ashen perch]

those are pretty meaty actually

[warm falcon]

Lothicc

[urban kiln]

probably just a character concept sheet

[ashen perch]

yeah I guess it just doesnt translate to the anime

[hazy turret]

I shan’t debate this with you today

[dark nymph]

reduce leg size and increase bust size

[urban kiln]

Im saying big mom IS alive

[indigo yacht]

Especially here you can see there’s meat in them quads

He does his squats

[ruby cape]

BIG MOM DEAD KAIDO DEAD

[dark nymph]

false, true

[ruby cape]

ARSALWISE DEAD

[rose brook]

and shiki is thriving

[dark nymph]

almost

[digital spear]

The death of 3 yonko...

[prisma yacht]

Rip kirksal wise

[ashen perch]

I also dont really consider my theories to be wild tbf, they are extremely reasonable smh, but judging by the reactions: that was the one that I was called the craziest for lol

[hazy turret]

We’ll see, I don’t think she is but I’m open

[warm falcon]

goonpiece is back

[ashen perch]

hey

[ruby cape]

Did I say something?

[royal orchid]

thighs split but no corresponding amount of muscle
oda is a visionary

[digital spear]

Join the Skelemom side...

[hazy turret]

I was saying that as a reply to the person that asked for arsal’s worst take

[ashen perch]

its not a bad take, its one of the most reasonable takes anyone could ever have

[hazy turret]

Alright let’s not push it now

[ruby cape]

Yano game 🔥

[hazy turret]

Just being a bit cheeky

[ruby cape]

I wish Shiki had two supreme grades for legs

[hazy turret]

Just having a bit of Sunday fun

[urban kiln]

People thought Gin was dead too, but this line made it clear he wasnt. People always forget how declarations like this are handled.

[dark nymph]

BM being alive is a reasonable take

[digital spear]

Its Tues... whatever

[cosmic hamlet]

Why should she be alive?

[dark nymph]

BM showing up on elbaph tho... less reasonable

[hazy turret]

That’s why it’s fun

[brittle basin]

Thankfully, the LA will kill both her and Kaido.

[indigo yacht]

You know I’m right

[ashen perch]

this is what thin legs actually look like

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/pudding-pudding-one-piece-charlotte-pudding-3-eyes-three-eyes-gif-4473193383184507148

[digital spear]

I mean she might as well be dead if not for Elbaf stuff

[muted hedge]

a more clear version of the anime colors for Shamrock

[ashen perch]

but its reasonable because he's an otaku I guess

[muted hedge]

they really dulled his colors down, but it works

[urban kiln]

not if shes narratively relevant to later stuff. Live action only kills people that have no reason to be alive

[prisma yacht]

Blue cape

[hazy turret]

They’re nice and proportionate but he’s not the Meg thee stallion of elbaf

[brittle basin]

The LA will never make it to this point. 🙁

[digital spear]

Liveaction wont even get to Big Mom aand Kaido

[cosmic hamlet]

Big mom and kaido were shown in post enies lobby

[royal orchid]

live action marineford will be the first season to ever have a trillion dollars budget

[queen crescent]

fools of you to think its getting past enies lobby

[ashen perch]

we know who that is actually

[digital spear]

Watch Big Mom and Kaido appearing in Thriller Bark so they can reason it being a full season

[urban kiln]

depends on the popularity. The live action, if it remains popular enough, might just embrace the characters aging. Oda wants luffy to find the One Piece while hes still a 19, but thats one of the reasonable changes to the live action

[hazy turret]

And it’ll still look like video game cgi dog slop

[ashen perch]

Oda's never drawn thicker thighs than that, Kyros and Oden were the closest

[hazy turret]

GAHHHHHH DAAAAAAAMN

[dark nymph]

best legs in the series

[ashen perch]

easily

[hazy turret]

AND a panty shot too??

[brittle basin]

an incredible drawing by Oda

[urban kiln]

Kaido is more likely to be dead. But Big Mom's balloon skin isn't related to a devil fruit, where as Kaido's defense is related to his dragon scales.

[ruby cape]

They went nuts on the Universal Hollywood One Piece show I wish the LA could incorporate some measures from that

[hazy turret]

FULL GOOCH
Oda saw that Franky gif for suuuure

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-shoe-bart-wolf-wolf-call-hubba-hubba-bart-simpson-gif-26890075

[untold latch]

kaido shouldn't be affected by magma tho tbh

[ruby cape]

https://x.com/melonteee/status/2047846416798847368?s=46

Melony🍈 (@MelonTeee)

apparently this is the Universal Hollywood One Piece show this is crazy LMAO

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X · Apr 25, 2026, 1:13 AM

[cosmic hamlet]

Live action will skip sky piea and go to water7/enies lobby

[untold latch]

also why does he have huge clavicles

[ruby cape]

embed bro

[hazy turret]

Calves?

[cosmic hamlet]

They can appear in water 7 itself

[untold latch]

no clavicles

[urban kiln]

magma is liquidy enough to be considered submerged in water.

[hazy turret]

You can’t see them?

[lofty fern]

He looks nice, better than his dad anyway

[hazy turret]

Nvm ignore me

[digital spear]

Theyd just replace CP9

[untold latch]

F

[hazy turret]

IGNORE ME I thought you were talking about the hajrudin pic

[hazy turret]

Brah

[untold latch]

its not like you can drown in magma tho

[urban kiln]

what is bro talking about

[knotty dove]

Luffy has one of the smallest

[digital spear]

Costoclavicular ligament deez nuts

[lofty fern]

Why the heck are his clavicles bigger than his femur LOL

[urban kiln]

Im saying the magma would damage him because hes submerged in liquid thus turning off his scale defenses

[brittle basin]

No idea. Blame the artist (me).

[royal orchid]

drowning is respiratory impairment from submersion in liquid

[untold latch]

he can probably ingest magma

[hazy turret]

Don’t blame buffy, blame Oda for proportioning him that way

[royal orchid]

if it's liquid enough and it stops you from breathing you're drowning on it

[muted hedge]

lmfao

[urban kiln]

his devil fruit is TURNED OFF

[untold latch]

magma is too viscous

[golden valley]

I was moreso talking about wild to outside perspectives, but yeah, didn’t really expect it to be Usopp vs Ju Peter tbh

[muted hedge]

i can't wait to see the official colors for Garling in his mid-stage

[golden valley]

In fact I think i remember that convo

[untold latch]

nah kaido is the goat he tanks it in base

[urban kiln]

ok

[muted hedge]

this design is so cool

[brittle basin]

aw yeah powerscaling at 9am

[untold latch]

but he prlly is dead regardless

[royal orchid]

it's 1pm

set your clock right

[digital spear]

I think both Kaido and Big Mom would be dying in the magma but Big Mom could use her last resort and put Kaidos soul into her bones and resurrect as Skelemom.

[golden valley]

You can suffocate

[untold latch]

science isnt powerscaling tbh

[brittle basin]

oda just kill someone important

i demand blood

[digital spear]

Sanji died

[royal orchid]

kill luffy

[cosmic hamlet]

😂

[muted hedge]

you definitely can

[pseudo gulch]

Background giant n. 157 was just slimed and you ask for more??

[royal orchid]

oh wait you can't sink in lava can you

[untold latch]

true but he is a fish

[brittle basin]

🤓

[untold latch]

unlikely

[pseudo gulch]

You'd have to be very dense I think

[muted hedge]

Sakazuki drowned this guy in magma, literally

[digital spear]

You cant drown in magma because you would already be dead from 1 touch

[cosmic hamlet]

Its 9 pm silly

[brittle basin]

most of you here are

[ruby cape]

Thanks

[untold latch]

son

[royal orchid]

wrong yc you forgot to consider the leidenfrost effect

[latent hamlet]

The funny thing is people get mad about akainu killing that 1 soldier

I think accordance to military protocol, deserters can be shot if caught

[golden valley]

i can tank it buddy

[brittle basin]

i'm not smart enough to be a nerd

[fallen meteor]

Just lying its 12:55

[muted hedge]

what the hell have i stumbled upon

[brittle basin]

i'm a dumbass

[dark nymph]

just following orders

[royal orchid]

we arredonda it

[digital spear]

oh its the devil

[untold latch]

satire

[latent hamlet]

Bro could have said yes
Head back
Went a different way

[dense haven]

I'm just glad the community can finally agree loki > kaido

[urban kiln]

satirical powerscaling

[lofty fern]

I mean if he's dense enough to sink in it. But then again, by the time the magma would enter his lungs it would already have burned up his body and killed him. So I guess you're right

[brittle basin]

all powerscaling is satirical in my eyes

[golden valley]

He still has visible body parts

[brittle basin]

just enjoy the fights

[golden valley]

So he suffocated first most likely

[knotty dove]

I can agree on loki+ ragnir> kaidou

[small ember]

If anything the Great Akainu was being merciful

[brittle basin]

someone post the powerscaling command, i forgot it

[urban lodge]

Ragnir by himself > Kaido actually

[latent hamlet]

Power scaling says shamrock > loki even tho the only feat is loki being tied up already injured weaponless cant fight back probably hungry

[graceful belfry]

[latent hamlet]

Power scaling says garling > rocks

Cuz oda said he strong

[brittle basin]

feet*

[prisma yacht]

It's true tho

[untold latch]

lwk tbh its not clear cut

[urban lodge]

@prisma yacht We're so back, your curse is weak

[latent hamlet]

They dont expose their feet tho
Always shoes on

[muted hedge]

all i see is a lot of Cerberus upscaling /jk

[prisma yacht]

Tsk tsk

[golden valley]

Reminder, Shamrock can push his King to mid diff because Loki can

[urban lodge]

This is 20

[royal orchid]

another gold gunko

[prisma yacht]

This is ur 20th

[brittle basin]

Cerberus vs Funkfreed?

[prisma yacht]

LOL

[urban lodge]

Only 10 more to go and I'm satisfied

[royal orchid]

how does penny do it

[brittle basin]

You'll never be satisfied. You'll crave more and more.

[dark nymph]

wtf

[royal orchid]

the power of the diabolical covenant works

[muted hedge]

Cerberus vs Ragnir is the most obvious set up out there, just as clear as Loki vs Shamrock is

[brittle basin]

yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah, but what about my boi funkfreed?????????

[golden valley]

Cerberus wins

[muted hedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/amm-4--k01KQAD1W3QFRKP18SVM51N22RZ

[brittle basin]

WRONG

[golden valley]

Omen incarnate

[untold latch]

imu pfp just for the color design to be yellow brown and purple

[brittle basin]

Elephant sword=funny

[prisma yacht]

It's rigged

[golden valley]

Wait, what if we get Omen Power Levels ?

Like Imu has 1,000,000 Omen

[muted hedge]

i mean, i just colored the eye but sure go off

[digital spear]

The more eyes the more power...

[lofty fern]

Shamrock insta wins

[golden valley]

Shamrock has 300,000 Omen

[muted hedge]

it's so true

Shamrock is the hellfire serpent and Loki is Nidhoggr

[dark nymph]

drop worthy

[digital spear]

How much doriki is 1 omen

[golden valley]

Its fire stop

[untold latch]

nah I mean Oda is gonna ruin the design somehow

[golden valley]

Hmmmm

[muted hedge]

i doubt it

[golden valley]

500,000

[digital spear]

wow wait you really think so

[latent hamlet]

So is cerberus dark type and ragnir a pachirisu clone

[muted hedge]

Oda hasn't ruined any design to me

[royal orchid]

what are you talking about, we already have a power level system

https://tenor.com/view/fukuro-fukuro-one-piece-one-piece-cp9-cipher-pol-gif-12925974530742210539

[muted hedge]

yup

[golden valley]

Its outdated

[digital spear]

what is Shanks then

[golden valley]

Omen is the new wave

[muted hedge]

well he isn't apart of it

he is his own thing

haki god or whatever, lol

[prisma yacht]

Sab elaborate the theory

[digital spear]

but how is Shamrock the serpent

[prisma yacht]

It was interesting

[royal orchid]

haki man

[hardy stratus]

Sab

theory

[golden valley]

Sham is not the serpent

[prisma yacht]

Goro it didn't rain

https://tenor.com/view/triste-tristeza-chorando-stan-twt-stantwitter-gif-6094387856936520968

[muted hedge]

i mean here's some of it

and i am just biased

but it could be true

that's not me btw

[hardy stratus]

rip

atleast the excessive heat isn't there I hope

[prisma yacht]

But hey at least the weather cool downed a bit

[lofty fern]

I think whatever it is the two have to be a pair. That's what twins are, especially if you have to make them identical

[muted hedge]

for sure, i just think his powerset will be more like Loki

given they're set up against eachother

Shamrock will have insane haki like Shanks and a Jormangundr devil fruit and Cerberus

is it busted, yes

[prisma yacht]

It's hella cooler than yesterday

[lofty fern]

I'm not sure about that Shamrock seems like his brother to be more of a swordsman and strategic fighter. Loki is more of a brawler

[untold latch]

kinda relies on the Imu being the final villan which isnt really likely + jormangundr would technically be loki's son

[muted hedge]

i don't think it would make Shamrock any less strategic

i'm just talking purely what powers he could have

[lofty fern]

He is the final villain. People are just in denial

[urban lodge]

Loki is also the Thor figure here (he and Shamrock will kill each other)

[muted hedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sora-sora-kingdom-hearts-3

[prisma yacht]

Ur in denial

[muted hedge]

that's something too, yeah

Jormangundr and Thor killed eachother in the Norse eda

[untold latch]

also shamrock should be imprisoned on that basis too

[prisma yacht]

U don't consider bb at all

[muted hedge]

what?

[lofty fern]

I like that he has Cerberus and Shanks has Griffin. Both creatures that protect their territory

[muted hedge]

yeah it's very cool

i just hope that Griffin is actually a devil fruit sword thingy

[untold latch]

bb is more likely to be than Imu tbh

[muted hedge]

i'm not willing to go down that rabbit hole for the 502001025235th time

[trim lily]

breaking the only haki/freak powers gimmick…

[muted hedge]

who fucking cares who the final villain is

[urban lodge]

It's Buggy anyway

[untold latch]

world serpent was imprisoned till ragnarock, shamrock is seemingly a free man

[urban lodge]

But Imu is the main villain

[muted hedge]

yeah, didn't Oda say "how does Shanks really fight" sometime back lol

[lofty fern]

Loki might have the hammer but he's very much coded as the Loki character. Everything about his history and his past and his rejection by people all code for Loki rather than Thor

[trim lily]

blackbeard and imu can both be main villains

[muted hedge]

i mean Oda doesn't do 1:1 most of the time

he just takes inspiration

[trim lily]

they represent two different things

[lofty fern]

If you say so

[untold latch]

imu and bb will have to clash eventually

[trim lily]

i don’t want that but it seems all but guaranteed now

rocks fault again…

[untold latch]

I mean bb did imply it when he first met luffy

[urban lodge]

Curse you Rocks

[muted hedge]

a victor doesn't have to come out of that clash either, that's the thing

[lofty fern]

One can just run over the other lol

[muted hedge]

Luffy has to be there for both Blackbeard and Imu

they're intertwined as a trinity

it's not just a duo or a solo

[lofty fern]

I agree

[untold latch]

we were told 20 years ago that strength doesnt win battles from BB himself actually

[muted hedge]

Luffy vs Blackbeard vs Imu is the most likely route

[trim lily]

yknow what, as long as i get the dedicated bbp vs straw hats on laugh tale i don’t care what blackbeard does after

[untold latch]

so it doesnt matter in that sense tbh

[lofty fern]

I think that was before Imu became a thing. Things do change a lot over time

[untold latch]

you think Oda didnt plan for Imu?

[trim lily]

he might’ve, maybe not

the gorosei effectively served the role of imu for most of the series

[urban lodge]

I imagine he conceived him around the same time as Joyboy

[muted hedge]

i think Oda had an idea surrounding Imu being the devil who leads the world back then, but i don't think that he had all the lore surrounding Nika, Joyboy, Davy Jones and Imu planned

but i always think that Oda wanted the ruler of the world ot be the literal devil

[trim lily]

luffy was always going to need some villain to punch that represents the entirety of the WG’s corruption

[untold latch]

imu was concieved at least during or before jaya

[urban lodge]

Oda will not gaslight me, Davy is not a part of the team

[trim lily]

we can’t let oda win

fight back

[warm falcon]

hi what is the topic

[trim lily]

imu (and a bit of blackbeard)

[untold latch]

tbh we dont necessarily know if joyboy wasnt a dick or not

[lofty fern]

I've thought ever since we got the god valley flashback that we now have to have all three come against each other or have two of them go against Imu. I can also see it being that BB is going to fail and Loki will succeed in his place. Because I really do think that Loki is actually going to be the one to carry on rocks will. There's a reason that there is a connection between him and rocks. It wasn't just to introduce rocks himself but to show an alternative for the Davy clan

[muted hedge]

i mean Joyboy will be grey like Luffy is

his ideas of freedom will probably hold as much merit as Imu's idea of control

[warm falcon]

@lofty fern hi irene-sama

[trim lily]

i don’t think oda will go in that direction with how joyboy has been portrayed and alluded to so far

[lofty fern]

Hello

[muted hedge]

both just shouldn't be allowed to be exist in it's lonesome, you need freedom and control, you need control and freedom

[muted hedge]

yeah, that would be very interesting to see for sure.

[lofty fern]

I mean luffy's not perfect but he's not gray. He's a shonen protagonist. That automatically makes him the good guy/ the guy we are rooting for. I think joyboy will be the same. Small snippets of flashbacks can tell one part of the story but when we get the whole flash back that snippet usually changes. Remember the whole thing with the rocks pirates and we thought what they said meant one thing and then we found out it was all about shakky later?

[warm falcon]

-sama is only for someone i respect much or has aura of such

[trim lily]

yeah luffy is pretty explicitly a good guy

[untold latch]

I mean I was just looking at Imu's emotions at the end. There could've been a scenario where the ancient kingdom's technology did more harm to the world than good, possibly why the 20 rulers decided to take it down but Joyboy just thought the more the merrier

[muted hedge]

sure, but i mean Luffy is by no means a hero if we look at it from the ones inside of the story's side

[keen quiver]

Also imu wasn't king back then

So davy jones being king checks out

[prisma yacht]

Irena has aura fs

[urban lodge]

Idk if we're just supposed to take that as fact

[untold latch]

yh ofc

[keen quiver]

Imu was just yelling because davy likely dint represent the kind of king imu thinks of

[hasty sable]

Evil Shanks

[trim lily]

i mean given how imu acts now it’s a bit hard to take his grievances seriously, but i’d hope the human alliance was somewhat justified in doing what they did

[urban lodge]

Idk if the Davy clan would have a very unbiased opinion about the history of Davy Jones

[keen quiver]

I mean he doesnt have a crown

[hasty sable]

Idk if I even like the concept of Imu

[keen quiver]

Thats petty definitive

[urban lodge]

He wasn't king of the world, yeah

[muted hedge]

elaborate lol

[urban lodge]

But if Davy was is a different story

[muted hedge]

you mean the overarching ruler of the world thing?

[urban lodge]

I doubt it's that simple

[untold latch]

Surprisingly I don't think the ending of one piece will be morally clear at the end

[keen quiver]

Imu likely has some version of joyboy and davy jones in his head that isnt the objective truth

[hasty sable]

I like the WG more without a single guy at the top to blame for everything

[muted hedge]

well that's kinda the whole idea behind the faccade

[distant vine]

Oda and moral grays?

[trim lily]

well the world government as we know it is pretty explicitly evil lol

[muted hedge]

the empty throne not being empty

[trim lily]

unless you want to argue there’s nuance to the celestial dragons

[muted hedge]

the world being lead to believe a lie, that they do have a ruler

[lofty fern]

It's possible kind of. I feel like I doubt it though, considering that we've met and allied with basically all the allies of the ancient Kingdom. From alabasta to wano to the Giants etc. I can't see Oda suddenly making them all evil. As for imu's emotions that can apply to a feeling of betrayal, whether it's warranted or not warranted. Kind of like how doflamingo, thought that he was in the right for killing his brother because he felt betrayed by his brother

[wet condor]

I don't think Davy Jones ruled the world literally. King of the World in the sense that he was the "most free"

or something

[muted hedge]

and it's not just the elders leading it

[hasty sable]

World Government as a structural evil is cool

The actual devil controlling it is a little on the nose

[wet condor]

Joyboy was actually the epitome of that but I reckon Davy Jones was similar

[muted hedge]

if we took away the celestial dragons and by extension Imu
i doubt that the world government would be evil to this extent

[keen quiver]

Its likely both literal and in that sense, considering wapol is both a pirate and a king

[urban lodge]

I feel like that's how Joyboy viewed it, but probably not Davy

[trim lily]

i’m not a fan of imu being an actual devil or god, still hoping it’s a fruit

[untold latch]

I don't think so. If you ignore the higher brass personel, you can argue the wg is the best of all current options

[urban lodge]

Unless Oda does the Rocks thing again

[muted hedge]

it's really like Dragon says, the world government in of itself isn't bad. it's the corrupt reign on the top which makes it bad.

[trim lily]

that’s dragon’s whole plan after all

[urban lodge]

Davy Jones was a wholesome reddit chungus 100 perfect boy

[muted hedge]

yeah

[untold latch]

the idea of the wg is necessary, Luffy just advocates for lawlessness

[grand flower]

Zoro KOd Morgan. Proof Luffy won’t beat imu

[trim lily]

conceptually, the world government is a good idea, an alliance of the world’s nations

but you can’t just ignore the top brass

[small ember]

What if Gerd becomes Axe Hand Gerd???

[keen quiver]

The marines are necessary and some form of the wg

[lofty fern]

I think even in that Luffy is a hero. A hero does not depend upon what the person thinks of themselves, but what others think about him based upon his actions. Everyone who looks up to Luffy and who was saved by him considers him a hero. Even if he himself does not

[small ember]

Her fingers are gone after all

[wet condor]

Maybe Imu is just in denial but I feel like he wasn't lying when he said "That guy was never a king"

[keen quiver]

Just not the one with imu at the head

[keen quiver]

It screamed of denial to me

[ashen perch]

itll be an inversion

[hasty sable]

Which also sucks because the WG on its own is very much evil

[wet condor]

I mean part of it is being in denial for sure lol

[trim lily]

the WG and marines just needs a better system of checks and balances

[wet condor]

Because he's spazzing tf out whenever either he or Joyboy is mentioned

[keen quiver]

Like I said its likely davy jones wasnt the type of monarch imu is

Which is why he said that

[wet condor]

Right

[hasty sable]

It’s a bit too rosey to expect the structure will be fixed by cutting out the nobles

[grand flower]

I respect the hustle. Sorry tho

[wet condor]

That's more what I mean

[muted hedge]

i don't doubt one second that some people also consider Blackbeard as a hero, because they also look up to him and view him in the same light as some people view Luffy. Blackbeard also embodies the chaotic freedom, it's just within a different shade.

[grand flower]

I Highkey think they bullied him

[ashen perch]

youre just not ready im afraid

[lofty fern]

Well you could also just go back to having individual governments rather than having a world government. Not sure if that's possible but I'm guessing the world used to be like that.

[untold latch]

I think whoever wins will paint the image that they're right even if its not completely true, basically like any historical event

[trim lily]

well without the nobles it’s basically the equivalent of the united nations lol

for better or worse

[muted hedge]

that much is clear, i mean Doflamingo said it himself

[grand flower]

The inversion will be an outsider beats him rather than luffys subordinate

[muted hedge]

the good and evil is decided by the victor

[thin quest]

Luffy is incidentally good/a hero, his reasons for doing what he does are usually selfish and not rooted in true desire to "do good"

[grand flower]

That’s not what Dofy meant

[untold latch]

the world's too big, and a centralized power structure is needed otherwise balance of power shifts wayyyyyy too far to lawlessness

[grand flower]

Dofy was being deadass that winning makes you the correct one

Because he’s a celestial dragon

That’s what they believe

[muted hedge]

yeah and that's basically saying that the good and evil is decided by the one who wins

[lofty fern]

Like we can't have groups like the celestial dragons, and yet at the the other end of the spectrum you can't have people like akainu who just killing people because they could be guilty

[untold latch]

any 50m bounty pirate can take over a small country if the wg doesnt exist

[grand flower]

“If we didn’t deserve it, we wouldn’t be able to take it”

[grand flower]

Nah nah

Dofy isn’t saying bad people will paint themselves as good if they win

[muted hedge]

i mean he basically is

[grand flower]

Dofy is saying if you win, then you MUST be the correct one

[trim lily]

i mean that is part of what he says

[muted hedge]

since the bad people will paint the "good people" as the bad people

[grand flower]

If you weren’t right, you wouldn’t have won

[trim lily]

history is written by the victor and whatnot

[grand flower]

Dofy wasn’t lambasting the farce of the victors rewriting history

[muted hedge]

that's literally what we're lead to believe that Imu has done all these years

why he wants to paint over the void century

and Rocks etc.

[hasty sable]

It’s the United States

[grand flower]

Dofy genuinely believes if you win, you have the right to decide what’s right and wrong

[lofty fern]

I don't think the planet changed size. You could basically make it like it is now in our world.

[urban lodge]

Imu was the original king of Ballywood btw

[muted hedge]

yeah, so he is painting the good and evil based on him being the victor of the war

[grand flower]

Yeah that’s what Imu is doing

But that’s not what Dofy was talking about

[muted hedge]

it's also what Doflamingo meant

[grand flower]

It’s not

[muted hedge]

Doflamingo definitely meant it as well as something else

it has a double meaning

[grand flower]

The way you framed it, it’s like Dofy is saying “history doesnt matter because whoever wins will paint themselves as good even though they aren’t”

It wasn’t a critique like the way fans frame it

[untold latch]

yk alabasta is bigger than Australia right? The op world is scaled a lot bigger. Also there is no stableness irl either 😭

[grand flower]

I’m aware of what he says

Dofy is genuinely saying Theres no inherent right or wrong

That winning is all you need to decide what’s morally correct

[muted hedge]

there's a double meaning here shuron

[lofty fern]

I mean there used to be. Before the world government. Everybody had their own governments in the world that existed for thousands of years before that. It wasn't like everything burned down

[grand flower]

Dofy is 100% wrong in that scene

[muted hedge]

i don't know why you'd believe that he only means ONE thing

[grand flower]

Yeah it comes across like that’s what he means

[grand flower]

Becausw he’s a celestial dragon

That reveal recontextualizes what he said there

Dofy is deadass

[muted hedge]

i'd say that's one of the most blatant foreshadowings to what Imu has been doing all these years

[untold latch]

only worked because there was a hyperpower in the ancient kingdom. If there is no deterrent, there will always be conflict

[muted hedge]

Imu won the war, decided who were right and who are wrong

Doflamingo said it

[untold latch]

and that same hyperpower still fell down

[grand flower]

Dofy is saying that’s a valid way for the world to work

It’s not

[lofty fern]

Doflamingo has a very much Might makes right attitude. He's actually not that far off from kaido's attitude. It is the strong and the ones who win who are the ones who are in charge and therefore the ones who are in the right

[grand flower]

Yeah exactly

Dofy is just wrong during this scene

[trim lily]

well yeah

[muted hedge]

even if it isn't, it's not wrong.
he is right, the victor of the wars have decided largely which side is ultimately good and which side is bad

[latent hamlet]

Also him
"WITHOUT SMILE IM DEAD"

[grand flower]

It’s 100% wrong

[untold latch]

chat is js regurgitating eachother on this doffy thing tbh

[muted hedge]

it's not fully wrong though, as it's been shown to be true

[trim lily]

welcome to also manga

[grand flower]

An evil entity who won is still an evik entity

[trim lily]

we love circular debates

[grand flower]

Again, that’s not the meaning Dofy meant

[muted hedge]

yeah but they're painting the visage of who is right and wrong since they won

that's the thing

[lofty fern]

We don't actually know how it worked back then. I'm assuming the ancient kingdom lasted for much longer than before the void century. And it didn't fail because we didn't have a world government. Every country had their own government. It wasn't like the ancient kingdom was telling everybody else what to do.

[trim lily]

but who defines what’s evil

[grand flower]

Dofy is wrong in his belief that victory gives you the authority to decide what is right and wrong

[muted hedge]

the victor has control to paint over which sides are good and bad

[untold latch]

its acc a positvive change than random bs arguments like vivi being a sh or not

[grand flower]

Not victory

[trim lily]

part of what doffy says here is it’s up to the victor to decide that in whatever comes afterwards

[grand flower]

Dofy doesnt mean “paint over”

[muted hedge]

brother

[grand flower]

That’s the disconnect here

[keen quiver]

Something something the winning side decides what's justice

[trim lily]

he explicitly says whoever wins can define what’s right and wrong

[distant vine]

I think he's discrediting both WB and the WG by saying "You can do what you want but ofc youre fighting for justice, everyone is"

[grand flower]

“Paint over” has the connotation of, this is false but you’re saying it anyway

[alpine trench]

The world government overall is perceived as a good than a bad, those who know what it is truly are rare and don’t end up being heard or respected much

[grand flower]

What Dofy says is, nah that’s just straight up true

[muted hedge]

alright, alright i'm going to make a hamburger

[thick mango]

doffys statement is nihilistic. Hes saying there is no good and bad its just the prefernces of whoever won

[grand flower]

Dofy believes victory gives you the authority to genuinely decide what’s correct and what’s wrong

[distant vine]

Its not really a critique from him yeah, just an observation. You could say he applies the same to himself

[graceful belfry]

What toppings?

[trim lily]

it’s something he can use to justify not working towards a greater good

oh oops wrong reply

[grand flower]

It’s not really a discredit as much as he’s saying that whoever wins has the right to say what’s right, and their victory makes them correct by default

[warm falcon]

i love this pfp omg

[grand flower]

In his POV, WB and the WG were fighting over a genuine authority

[distant vine]

Thank you

[grand flower]

But mere victory doesnt give you that authority

[untold latch]

I think the ancient kingdom probably wasnt far off the wg in the sense of being a coalition of nations, but also there was no great pirate era back then, so people were generally more civillized. Whereas now, travelling anywhere along the grandline is already a 90% chance of death even with wg protection, without it, it's likely ggs

[distant vine]

I refuse to pay for Nitro but everytime I get it for free I like having this pfp and banner

[grand flower]

Heart Queen was rihht

It’s the same philosophy Kaido had

“If you’re right and I’m wrong then beat my ass about it”

[trim lily]

it makes sense for kaido given his childhood experiences proved it

or at least it did to him

[grand flower]

We’ve seen countless times in OP the wrong people win

[alpine trench]

Kaido provides a mirror or facet that reflects onto the larger entity that rules the world

[trim lily]

but who defines what’s right and wrong

[grand flower]

Yeah Kaidos life was legit a cycle of “I have to be a savage to survive”

[alpine trench]

Similar to Doffy and similar to Big Mom

[untold latch]

thats why i can lwk see an ending where bb wins

[grand flower]

I love the Me Valley mini narrative between Kaido and big mom

Kaido tries to indulge in diplomacy by accepting a deal with BM

[wet condor]

Don't know 'bout that one lol

[urban lodge]

Luffy DIES

[grand flower]

She betrays him for literally no reason so he says fuck all this nice shit, back to violence and got the fruit

[trim lily]

it would certainly be the ending of all time

[untold latch]

a man who yearns is a man who earns ig

[grand flower]

Side note

I love how ain’t shit big mom is for that

She literally initiated the deal with Kaido

[alpine trench]

Doffy’s control, Big Mom’s dystopic need for unity despite differences, Kaido’s tyranny and need for strength to prevail - all of these are aspects that reflect how the Government operates the world

[wet condor]

Unlikely but we can hope

[untold latch]

it would genuinely be a peak ending

[grand flower]

Then backpedaled IMMEDIATELY

What a fuckin champ

[untold latch]

w momma

[hasty sable]

History is written by the victors is pretty much all he’s saying

[untold latch]

sad oda made her a cry baby yonkou whose only defeat was getting trapped

top 1 potential tho

[hasty sable]

Whitebeard is the good side during Marineford though

[untold latch]

not rlly

[graceful grove]

He was a filthy criminal

Who also discriminated among his kids

[runic dock]

It’s also saying the people that win obfuscate real history with their own narrative 9 times out of 10

[clever idol]

Yep

[runic dock]

And something morally incorrect before that could be deemed legal when they win , and vice versa

“Whoever wins is justice “

[muted hedge]

basic ass bitch burger, lol

[clever idol]

Siblings fr

[iron oriole]

History is written by the victor(s) as they say... its "his story"

[muted hedge]

badum tsst

[muted hedge]

i'm so glad that toei went with pink hair instead of purple

[warm falcon]

the server came back to normality it seems

[prisma yacht]

Not nice

[warm falcon]

talking ab one piece i mean

[dense haven]

any shueisha fansin chat

[ruby cape]

WE love making the Shueisha stocks bullish for the shareholders to profit and tax evade 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈

[lofty fern]

Well, think about our own history, we had pirates for forever, but there was a time where we had a "great pirate era" of our own and it coincided with when we were able to travel farther and relatively safer on the seas. I think back then, because the flooding hadn't happened there was much more land. So much easier to make connections. I think the AK was more than likely a superpower more than a world government. It was a very strong nation that was advanced in almost every way. But it was still only one kingdom, just as every other kingdom was their own. The world coilition under the CDs was a new concept

[lofty fern]

he would have been fine. Doffy's savvy like that

[lofty fern]

Eh, they're both purple, just different shades. Unless it's Gerd's outfit, I don't consider it pink

[muted hedge]

i definitely see it as pink

[thin quest]

it's rather fuchsia isn't it?

[dense haven]

bro said fuchsia

[prisma yacht]

Farts

[red lagoon]

Purple hair >>

[red lagoon]

The purple here looks fire

[muted hedge]

pink hair >

[muted hedge]

i think it blends in with the cloak too much

[red lagoon]

Purple is my favorite colour I’m biased

[dense haven]

purple is the best color

objectively

[craggy vapor]

all white all day

[pulsar path]

You gotta admit they fumbled on some of elbaf char tera designs. Not the outfits them selfs but the noodle legs

I hope that's just the athletic of elbaf 😭😂

Damn I thought this was a 3ds

[final trench]

#no

[brittle basin]

How many members have we bled so far? Tens of thousands, I hope.

[final trench]

Black or red

[dense haven]

people went to war over the color purple

its just that good

[prisma yacht]

I like peach color

[muted hedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/waluigi-2--k01KQAHFFKSJJKMPG3MTFSFHYFS

[prisma yacht]

Ppl sacrifice their life for peach color

[pulsar path]

Indigo

🙄

[brittle basin]

stfu and just say purple

[pulsar path]

Lol

[brittle basin]

indigo drank just don't have the same ring as purple drank

[stray prism]

lavender

[pulsar path]

Nintendo was very distinct about that difference 😂😂😂

[craggy vapor]

no no, I waited 2 month for the Thor to arrive

[prisma yacht]

Lavender twon

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/leantrap-springtrap--k01KQAHH5J5PTREPPPSR3B2TXZ2

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/creepypasta-pokemon-lavender-town-jigglypuff-scary-gif-3207641827219010427

[spice cairn]

Imu

[pulsar path]

That looks tuff Idk if it was that one but ik that you can do some cool stuff with it. If it can run wiiu game is hear star dox zero is fixed on those machines

[stray prism]

is a nice person

[prisma yacht]

Jiggllypuff is imu's base form

[brittle basin]

Jigglymu

[ashen perch]

not even close really

[pulsar path]

I wish Imu was just a. Jigglypuff

[brittle basin]

BTW you're welcome. You can thank me for everything that happened. If only Buffy had not joined spoilers this week. I am cursed.

[pulsar path]

Maybe wiggflytifft

[prisma yacht]

JIIIIIIIGAAAAAALLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPUUUFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFG

[ashen perch]

Yeah this all started with you huh

[wheat falcon]

at least 1000 from last night

[brittle basin]

[ashen perch]

yeah youre close

[brittle basin]

not enough, should be more

!cleansing

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/457923017188704266/ghandi.PNG

[muted hedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doc-good-riddance--k01KQ92HXV3B5GKJ0MQB5HVBDCF

[pulsar path]

So are we changing the theme of the server too the wano prison ?

[dense haven]

I lot of people didnt grasp this yet

[ashen perch]

we lost around 1200

[dense haven]

wait until the chapter drops and people start getting muted left and right when they post tcb panels

[wheat falcon]

Impel down would be cool

[pulsar path]

Oh shit lmao

For real

[spice cairn]

Its over

[pulsar path]

The world government is watching Imu eye

[spice cairn]

Its going to be a troll thing now

[ashen perch]

I mean if they were smart

[pulsar path]

[ashen perch]

theyd go to the containment channels

[wheat falcon]

👅

[brittle basin]

i'll post a few on purpose

[spice cairn]

We send them back where they came from

[dense haven]

arsal we all know op fans cant read and there is 400k of them in this server

[spice cairn]

Twitter, formerly known as X

[dense haven]

yall mods better get ready

[brittle basin]

399K bots and me, who is also a bot

[ashen perch]

eh they will get used to it, it will start rough

[spice cairn]

Place your bets on who would it be

[ashen perch]

but its gonna be fine

[spice cairn]

Will it be a new whitename or someone whos been here for years but barely keeps up with the server