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The mantra that Zoro uses to cut Daz Bones is used in Wano to learn Haki
Where he calls it haki, So it's definitely meant to be haki
retroactively i've always thought it was zoro unconsciously using both observation and armament haki and not knowing what either is so he's not able to do it on command
i’m more of a pessimist when it comes to that kind of stuff, so i’d read it as more of “oh, i can feel/sense it” trope than outright haki
I wonder if we're gonna get a haki name drop in OPLA season 3
During the end of Alabasta, Zoro says “I have to learn how to draw on that power at will or I’m not really stronger” @maiden saffron
the fact that blackbeard said "haki" in jaya makes me think oda had thought of it by zoro vs mr 1
I don't really understand why though. Even tropes have to make sense within the story, otherwise its just cheap and ... stupid.
I remember arguing about it with Bean years ago and he made me feel wrong and humiliated for thinking it was haki 😔
but arent there two possibilities here.
- Its described initially in this way because of the long term plan
- When describing it again in the future, you go back and use the words you previously established. Because the specific words are abitrary and the concept is still close enough that it fits
not always, but i do acknowledge its very possible, maybe even likely, it was haki
lola traded loki for absalom
man this guy Absalom was lost there
Yeah rewatching zoro vs mr 1 it feels kind of obvious to me that it's meant to be something special
I think oda was definitely setting up some sort of future power path for Zoro
we just didn't know it was haki, that ANYONE can use
A domestic goose chase is embarassing
zoro even literally says "my will is flowing into my sword"
larpatron she's married to gotti
chapter 1's awesome
Crocodile actually straight up wonders if Luffy has haki when he gets hit by Water Luffy, this is like 3 chapters after Zoro v Mr 1
i hope Wit Piece does a faithful adaptation
+2
just for ep 1 alone
i hope wit piece lasts until my kids graduate university and cure cancer
my question is why wait so long to introduce it then
I hope we get more novels instead
because absalom is dead lulw
demonicious if his children don't cure cancer
is there any point to vaguely alluding to it for like 200 more chapters
Teach mentions it 30 chapters after this
because one piece is an insanely long story. The payoff is better when you see these things after a longer time.
Yeah it’s hard to ignore that the arc right after introduces the mechanics that’s still used to this day for observation
We also get mantra
we get bits and pieces that let us speculate for years
Haki appears every saga fr
So the straw hats can get their asses completely whooped without it
until its finally explained
Also, Oda likes to do things this way lol
I don't think it's crazy to say oda had the idea for conq haki during chapter 1
most of the manga and other series i’ve read are like 100 chapters or less so maybe i just have a different perspective on this
Then Theres Amazon Lily
After skypeia it definitely gets far more obvious and rayleigh and people use it explicitly
yeah i mean all of demon slayer is barely longer than wano alone
Oda had a lot of Haki pre-skip
It's all about timing to him, he won't do anything if he deems the timing to not be right
he definitely didn't have armament or observation in mind just yet but
so yeah, One Piece is different lol
cant really compare it to other manga
I just think the Six Powers during enies lobby probably should've been haki's reveal instead
Didn’t my hero start and end in the span of Wano
Until the time is right, Oda's gonna vaguepost
usually when stories have THIS many chapters, they're not a continuously running story
cant really compare it to #other-series
they're short stories that are self contained
This is One Piece, Oda's the king of vagueposting
with maybe an overarching background story that moves at a snails pace
#other-series clears one piece in terms of lore (and stakes)
One Piece is one continuous story that's been running for 3 decades
because one piece isn't just another story it's #also-manga
the main argument against oda knowing what he wanted haki to do is ace lol both vs smoker and blackbeard
Why is everyone saying full body haki isn’t effective? All I see is all of one piece’s most powerful characters using it, look at them😭
speaking of haki
that final style of silhouette is so funny Lmfao
Oda is a genius for taking this formula and freaking it into an epic
with some highlights and all
They’ve never been silhouettes
truth uranus
so is haki supposed to be invisible or is it black in universe
Can Daz Bones turn himself into a black blade so he can say it?
Black I’m gonna guess
i think its invisible but its black for the reader to see
Invisible unless its permanent
I'm pretty sure several characters comment on seeing it
yeah but then what the hell are black blades
and for rule of cool
why are they not invisible
“Iš airbending invisible or not” ah question
Permanent haki
We know that Oda thinks of Haki as visible
throwback to that doffy pov image
Oda came up with “Black Arm Zephyr”
oh yeah
Good point
It's weird though because it can't be permanent haki because of Zoro cutting Monet
at this point might as well consider it to be black canonically
actually that reminds me
Unless it's only permanent if wielded by the original user
Yeah that's pretty undeniable I forgot lol
oda did color snakeman red, like toei did for boundman
I think black blades are gonna be related to death
Do you guys consider haki black or purple, I’ve always thought of it as purple idk why
I think it's tied to the soul or something
black with purple outline
Basically a sword version of an awakening
its drawn differently sometimes
Makes sense, because obviously Zoro didn't make his blade black but he clearly has drunk alcohol since then
You need to be in perfect sync with your blade
its usually black with gray outlines and sometimes a very dark purple with bright purple outlines
and sometimes red ...
So he must've been referring to haki black not permanent black
and one or two times even yellow
blue haki
All colors
my favorite version of haki is the matte black you see in film z though
I'm not a big Mihawk fan, but this is super cool
kaido once said #redhaki triumphs all
its beautiful
Oda's drawn it red, blue and black
siiick
Garp uses haki to punch luffy in post enies lobby
Omen is gonna be a whole new power system, 3rd power system in one piece incoming, or fourth after dials, holy shit I want dials back, wait no it’s the fifth power system, after the CP9 abilities, Damn theres a lot, wait 6 after mrs goldenweek’s paint since its not a devil fruit
gear red...
we're not ready for haki blanco.......
True I suppose
as for CP9 abilities
they're martial arts
sanji and luffy even learnt them
like sky walk
rokushiki
you're tripping, this is clearly just the fist of love that got retconned later
Yeah but Usopp used them so fucking good that it's basically a power system

When will Zoro start making his blades black
i find it funny than infinite jumping is a thing
tomorrow
Conquerors probably has something to do with it too
The black blades never existed
His haki control is bad
CP9 abilities are practically a power system tbh, just bc they’re martial arts doesn’t change the fact they’re breaking physics
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how about film green but its all about pop greens. nothing but pop greens. 90 minutes of like 60 new pop greens
Hype
oh sick

i forget he's caught up now
it was peak
i gotta see his wano thoughts
Y'all arent ready for Heavenly Pop Greens
watching it now
lol arsal did you see the plot for the Universal show
what's that supposed to mean
He's cool
You're not ready for monster point bepo
Heaven Realms pop greens
in the final war
I’ve never heard of this bub
I love his tweets, he's cool indeed
literally about going to the island of Pop Greens
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/One_Piece:_Grand_Pirate_Show
it was a fun time when everyone thought robin knew haki
But this is gonna sound weird but I think he's almost toxically positive sometimes
that would be scary though
imagine she just cracks smoker's skull
and he cant do anything
I'm sure the videos are good, I've just never gotten around to watching em
he's great
Why did the rev army not teach her haki lol
how so
It was also a fun time when we thought imu was a woman, or that the gorosei were genuinely top of the verse 😭
Gorosei biggest let down since idk when
i dont think she's a gifted combatant, it's probably very hard to learn. They taught her fishmen karate and she probably spent a lot of time learning things about the world and the revos mission aswell
just didnt have the time for it
Zephyr is canon btw and so is film red
You know arsal I was thinking how could usopp have a really good moment and I was thinking of something similar to what he does to bullet happening against imu
Uta is canon, film red isn't
I think he dismisses some criticism that is actually valid in some occasions
Maybe when we found out the big mom pirates wouldn’t be part of onigashima
Not exactly the same obviously but similar
I see
I think he's gonna have another interaction with Imu so I can see it
A childhood friend inspiring Luffy to find a musician for his crew was such a good idea
Zeh-fer-es is how ive been pronouncing it
I haven't kept up with his streams or videos in a while though so I can't think of any examples off the top of my head but that's something I remember feeling watching him
"why did u recruit brook"
"he plays jammies"
Fer like fur
Oda told Toei that their time travel idea sucked and created Uta, its pretty cool
also cool that the film red tie-ins gave us the earliest look we've gotten at Luffy's past, even if canonicity is up for debate
wait film red was time travel?
thats dumb af 
I don't get the Uta hate, she fits in so nicely and she's really cool
The first idea
idk if the exact events of film red were canon but you cant deny there are about a trillion canon things that we found out about first in film red
Of the next film
i think Uta had....an ungodly amount of advertising for what was essentially "luffy's best girl that's totally canon but not canon sorta"
there were some fun filler episodes that tied into film red in the anime i thought they were super cute
how do you pronounce zyph then 
If he was canon he’d be one of my favourite villains, top 3 even
It wasn't film red, it was just whatever followed Film Stampede, the idea was that Luffy would go back in time and meet a former user of the Gomu Gomu no Mi
Oda rejected it
My idea was that imu would pretty much have beaten loki and Luffy at that point and he shoots imu in the back of the head and distracts him long enough the timer runs out while spouting whatever he wants. Though he can also do more
And came up with Uta
its pronounced zephyr
Why’s a fake concept like canon stopping you?
Canon is bullshit tbh
oh alright lol
i think most people would see Uta as basically "SO I MADE AN OC, SHE WAS ACTUALLY LUFFY'S CHILDHOOD BEST FRIEND GIRLFRIEND"
tot musica is cool as hell with the knowledge of imu's powers now
I hate that criticism so much
We do learn some things like Shanks being a Figarland but there's nowhere for the movie to actually take place, Luffy has his pre-wano bounty but has gear 5 but big mom's around etc
Its funny when its a meme
tot musica is canon as well
Sabo?
Nah bc I wish they did what they did to shiki, integrated him into the story in a minor role
even if u hate it, before u actually watch it, that's the initial info
it's funny cause "Shanks' daughter" was such a common OC type for the longest time
But the OC thing is just that, a meme. Not legitimate at all.
then they made it a real thing
One piece fans when Oda creates a character with traits
i want uta to be used for something in the main story. I dont like making her canon just to hype up the movie and doing nothing with her. Basically 10-20 panels is fine, 0 panels woulda been fine. But 1 panel is bs
honestly i kinda dont like Sabo for that.
I don’t see there being anymore one piece movies tbh
I wouldn't say that Zyph
Let's see we have Sabo, Rocks and I think 1 more
Red will probably be the last one
Son and Brother? Yes
Sabo has differentiated himself enough for the oc meme to be silly
Film red 2 is happening
part of me thinks sabo's existence in the story is cuz Oda wanted to keep Ace but kill Ace too
didn't oda say they're working on a new movie. the production is going badly but it's there
Sabo is more than an acereplacement
Stampede 2* fuck film red, worst post Timeskjp film🙏
Daughter? One Piece fans hate women too much to conceive of a super important daughter for Shanks
ye
nahhh we need at least 1 more
I feel like I remember seeing more Shanks daughters than sons on old fan character wikis 
LMFAOOOOO
There's no shot with how successful it was that they'd just stop
It is the biggest opening for a One Piece film ever, the third film in Japanese history to make over 1 billion yen on opening day, the best Saturday opening ever for IMAX, and also the second biggest opening day of all the time in Japan.
sadly a truke
lol
Don’t see how they can increase the stakes anymore
😭
Okay, TO BE FAIR
you dont see one piece movies coming out in an era where one piece is more popular than ever?
There will be one piece movies coming out forever
Did you just shorten truth nuke
They're running out of major things to spoil in the next movie
They can make anything they want up
i've been saying truke for months now
They missed their chance to spoil Imu
The demographic that would be making fan characters and fan fictions is pretty different from what is now perceived as "average one piece fan"
I havent been reading it seems
There's always more to spoil lmfao
I just don’t see it, they increase the stakes every movie, it’s been crazy, they introduced gear 5 in film red,
it's so good
They can still get the anime onlys
I don’t see how they can go bigger
so potent
True
Here's what they're gonna do:
- New villain who is very strong (powerful!, has conquerors haki and is very strong !!!)
there
the movies aren’t canon so there’s really no restriction, if anything with the popularity op has been getting, that increases our chances
We could see Joyboy or the Great Kingdom or the kingdom's name or stuff, or maybe blackbeard reveals
speaking of
there's really not that many popular OP fan projects huh
I do wonder what boice they will give the big mu now, the mixed voice was to keep the secret, but it was much more feminine sounding
True true but I don't think I can recall that example atleast and I've gone down the rabbit hole of OCs before
besides stuff like One Pace
Well I think the silhouette will keep that voice
Deep and soothing
For all we know Imu has other forms too
I do need at the end of this arc for Imu to sit on the throne in demon form
His silhoutte isn’t gonna keep the voice
This was clearly a transformation and not just a reveal
crown suddenly manifesting and all
they should make a one piece movie where they don't assassinate sanji's character
One OC that people really love is Luffy's sister
We see the silhouette actively manifest into the demon form
It would be so peakkkk
If anything, I see the next one piece movie being a legacy movie, like the Pokémon I choose you, movie, maybe like starting the movie from another point in the story, like after thriller bark
We can not revert to pre timeskip movies
And decreasing stakes
tbh I think I might also be remembering this more from a joke someone made pre-film red release
Uta is kinda his sister so in that sense, its close enough I guess
Not a chance in hell
Perhaps
but I remember seeing a couple at least
We will be seated
actually wait no
i would LOVE another pre timeskip movie
love franky but crew feels incomplete with just him and not brook
We need Jinbe time
I killed Franky
I've seen ideas of a sister in the ASL trio before, and Uta basically manages to be that without interacting with AS
Why not, it has all the crew except jinbe, it’ll have new animation, just the crew with their pretimeskip designs fighting a lesser stakes villain with more humour
brook joins after thriller bark so he’d be in it still
true, we good then
that's not nice
Because the movies are designed to make money and onepiece fans aren’t going to watch a thriller bark era movie that removes a significant portion of the most popular characters and powerups
We need a Cross Guild movie
FIlm Blue
Also about the next movie, Oda said that its something we would all love to see
They can make up literally anything for the next movie
actually
What does Oda even think we would all love to see
with OPLA basically being a big reset and bringing in a new wave of fans
I could see them pulling a Pokemon and doing a "reboot" of the movies
have it take place much earlier in the story
I have no clue Caleb
God forbid we want a feel good movie😭
It’s gonna be something we don’t actually want to see
The OP fanbase is hardly a monolith
You got all them old movies to watch if you want a feel good movie
Who is he even talking about when he talks about fans...
The movies are for hype moments And aura
yeah baron omatsuri especially
Carrot I hope

They could get away with making a good movie for once
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Film red was good
They don't have to keeep doing bad ones
Give up on that dream bruv
I just see them as hype showcases and good animation
One Piece is mega popular now, its gonna do a ton of business no matter what
Like the Dragonball movies
one of my favorite depictions of conqueror's haki besides the default pre-wano one
Chat I think you're missing one word there, good 👍
they should make a One Piece Evolution
I like Uta, I don't like Film Red a lot
I um well, about Stampede uh
Looks good 👍
Minus the CGI monstrosity 👎
They don’t even need to put in effort anymore
Place your bets for Uta's placement in the poll for next week's midterm results
Top 30
Michael D. Lucas recruits fellow students Rollins Zachary and Naomi for his band
uta will place exactly 27th
I honestly think she'll be top 20
you guys make the rest of the plot
I don’t see them making a movie that doesn’t include a bunch of cameos so I think stampede and film red movies are the future
Also look
They'll make a ton of money no matter what
principal garp wants to shut down their band because superintendent akainu hates music
Which is fine because I don’t really care if they make good movies. Just make the animation nice
akainu's name gets changed to
idk fred or something
But I don’t think they can do a new one piece movie from where we’re at during the story, we’ll never have a crazy powerful villain that has a huge gap of power between them and the straw hats, bc the straw hats are getting to top verse, it doesn’t have the same ‘yea we’re gonna support the underdog! Because it seems impossible to beat them!’ If they do introduce a villain like that, idk how they will, bc they’ll be imu level
Why not just make something good? Something that'll live forever? Do they really always wanna do dumb hype shit
oh yeah i forgot i have to make white people names
principal greg and superintendent samuel
samuel from sakazuki
We can have a crazy powerful villain in a new movie
acutally on that note
Movie powerscaling makes no sense
Melody is such a perfect name adaptation for Uta
if they ever did dub names still like 4Kids
Yes because it takes less effort an makes more money
Unless ofc, a crazy powerful character from the moon comes down 😉
Enemy that negates conquerors haki/gear 5
Nahh he's for the main story
true...
ENEL MOVIE COME ON!!!
That's it, his name is Samuel and he works for Suzuki
prequel movie would be great but only after the show ends
i dont want them to do something dumb
Enel and Imu both moon God btw
Oh wait that’s a good idea
do we even have to change robin's name that's a normal ass name
like a standard one piece movie
Let’s bfr, it’s probably super likely, they’ll go for a sequel movie for all of one piece after it ends, like one piece 10 years after the ending
nicky robin

but imagine
One piece the last
The Second Piece
what do you even call Usopp and Sanji
There’s definitely gonna be sequel movie; they gonna squeeze every drop of money out of this shit
Urkel and Sander
Who-slop and naruto
Nami sakuga in the new episode
what do we think about ulysses
One Piece: Chopper's Kingdom on the Island of Strange Animals 2 would make big bucks
Insists upon itself
wait.....
“One piece ten years later! Imu’s reckoning” and it’s about how like imu dies in the main series and he leaves a mask behind or smth and someone in the movie wears the mask and imu captures their soul as a vessel or some shit like that 😭😭😭
Sakuga for the second best character in the series
I see it
Civil war name
so true
Cook
what if they just called sanji Stanley
these are some goofy ass names
Unique
Lmfaooo
Uoga
Guy named unique ☠️ ☠️
Child naming, just like tattoos, are an intelligence test
usher...
When the Holy Land infiltration happens you guys think we’re gonna get some of the Strawhats in a CD disguise 😂
is that just pronounced like juan
No
Ts Irish
Bullet vs Imu lets go!
So it’s probably pronounced like Jonathan
Stampede powerscalinf was absurd
old OP movies really are a time capsule
Tbh I don’t have the gif on stand by so ‘luffy nodding from film gold gif’ or smth like that
Apparently Rayleigh >all supernovas at the same time and Zoro was alive fighting Fujitora. Before Enma
the thought of Jinbe being turned into Jimmy/Jimbo....
i thought he could be like jimmy B
Lmao
mirror B's cousin
arlong as arnold......
Need ishizuka to draw some peak like this again
I love the early straw hat themes
gonna miss the soundtrack when wit piece comes along
They’re definitely making covers for some songs
Hey guy
nami's theme is one of my favorite songs in the series
they really made the definitive Zoro theme from the jump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSftkNqh5-I
What do you want
LA's is cool too but......
it's not very early but franky's theme is kind of insane
yess
actually it first plays in alabasta so nvm it is early
instant nostalgia bomb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpBhJo3Jwk8
Nami-Swaaaaaaan!
My favorite theme from One Piece.
Extended version. Enjoy~
I do NOT own One Piece or its music. I merely extended a part from it.
nami's theme is cool but rocks'?? just the strongest
Epic orchestral cover of the Rocks Pirates theme or God Valley theme (ゴッドバレー) from One Piece Episode 1130 and Episode 1153 and Manga Chapter 1159, during the famous God Valley Incident.
「ワンピース」第1130話/原作1159話の“ゴッドバレー事件”で、ロックス海賊団が上陸するシーンのテーマ曲...
I’m sorry rokaya hello to you too
yeah, as big of a franky fan i am, i never really associated it with franky bc of that
Blackbeards theme is awesome
same w/ that stampede track they repurposed as kid's theme
they don't really feel like their themes to me
but it's a really good track
Frankys theme would go stupid on a csgo fragmovie
you didn't say hello to everyone else here.....
siick
Like the first one but most are ishizuka
koby and garps pic is so tough
I still wish they used the beginning theme here for Jinbe's eyecatch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo34YMqLGCk
it was perfect
The Koby and Garp one was my phone background for a while
I don’t even remember seeing that frame in the anime but idc bc it’s sooo sick
it's so good
It doesn’t exist yeah
Koby…. 
Coby and garp never stood like that
Ye
It’s just ishizuka making a cool sneak peek
wonder how koby would react once he realizes the WG is evil as shit
One day you'll appreciate his greatness Muk
No reaction
Because Oda won’t ever give him any meaningful or insightful commentary
Well I’m sure we’ll find out eventually bc that seems like a pretty obvious route for his character to go
“Wow the word government sure is evil”
how do y'all feel about this as law's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eu_7kSg_SA
One Piece New World Soundtrack - Track 4
1-04 死の外科医
they never really used it outside of the eyecatch iirc
but would he remain and fight for them
or would he switch up
and fight with luffy
Probably would work towards changing the marines from within and trying to disconnect them from the wg
makes sense, thats garp's approach and he would probably follow it too
I wish Oda made the future of the marines a more interesting character
But we can’t have everything we wish for
i quite like koby agendas aside
the future of the marines is akainu

it's been interesting seeing him have to contend with his idea of what marines should be and what they really are
*Greenbull
i cant imagine akainu remaining loyal to the WG after figuring out the WG a bunch of demon lords
He hasn’t even contended with this idea all post timeskip
that's fine he's only been around a tiny bit
Which is part of my problem
i don't think it's that big of a deal
well, Oda made a giant world with lots of characters and only so little panel time. gg.
Imagine akainu finds out imu was friends with the first pirate 
oda will bring koby and his story back when it's relevant and it'll be relevant soon
It just makes me not care about Koby. Even less than I did pre timeskip
And it’s hard to stomach because odas gonna force feed him to the top
And shove him in my face
I have high hopes for Akainu, I think he has massive potential as a character
oda needs to hire fujimoto, and both of them can work together and crank out two one piece chapters a week
different POVs
absolute cinema
I think he is being relegated to a revolutionary enemy rather than a strawhat one
the marines in general haven't had a big role in the timeskip era
Akainu is someone I am actually interested in thankfully
please god no
Don't worry, Muk, we have the live action to give Koby all the screentime he needs. Well, except for the part where he was on-screen for like 5 minutes this season. Shit.
We still get interesting dialogue and povs from marines and former marines though. Kuzan garp Fujitora greenbull kizaru
Bro trying to make the anime pacing worse
I don’t and won’t really care when he does get screentime. My problems with him are deep rooted
I do wonder what the end game for kuzan is tho
It is what it is at this point
Because I feel like it’s more than just stop bb
i get your perspective it's just not something i think about cause at worst i'm like ambivalent about koby. when he shows up i'm like yay when he doesn't i'm too focused on everything else in the world to notice
I'll care in your place.
That’s fine. I’m not even in full hate mode all the time with him. But he’s just an important character that’s not what he should be (in my opinion) that odas gonna continue to force down my throat. Like the Blackbeard vs Koby and Luffy fight for the sake of parallels
Thank you 
Furthermore the marines are the most intriguing cast of characters to me and then you have Koby, most important of them all, being not interesting at all
It’s not hate for me it’s more frustration
Something that I am weirdly passionate about
It’s a mix of both for me
I don't think Koby has ever had significant screentime, correct? Ever since the beginning? The most was MF?
And post enies lobby
Yes he has never had significant screentime
I’m fine with Koby being a green flag
well, till he has to make a decision about what being a marine really means (after he figure out the WG is ruled by demons)
But I think I just don’t like goody two shoe, aloof/naive characters. It’s even worse that he’s in a position of authority and people depend on him to protect them
Koby had 3 chapters in East Blue, 2 chapters in Post Enies Lobby, a few pages in Marineford and Post Marineford and maybe 4 the entire Post TS.
Give him some time idk
Muk: I don’t hate koby
Rokaya: I do
Toothpaste Transylvania guy:
Dude
Fire picture
Here comes the number one Koby apologist
That's gotta be nsfw
Number one marine apologist
I want a really really creamy beer
But like I said with Koby, give him some time, he's still very young and quite naive. Let him cook a little bit, let him grow
I’ve given him time. Don’t quote me with shanks and dragon and what not because Koby is a character meant to grow alongside Luffy. Not even asking for a lot of screentime. At this point I know Koby is getting more stuff and what not but I just don’t care anymore
Whatever he gets he gets
It’s been two years
But the difference there isn't just screentime
When I say time I don't mean just more screentime
I mean he's still young
He’s gonna be this young for the remainder of the series
I don't think so
Him and Luffy have been at sea for the same amount of time, yet Luffy understands the world much better
Arsal is expecting a timeskip with Elbaf, right?
Yeah, one way or another
Oh LOL
The world is moving too fast for a timeskip
That's why there's another way!
We had our one and only one mid way through
He means timeskip in that time flows differently on Elbaf
time dilation
And how much time are we expected to skip here on elbaf?
I thought the new theory was legoland time loop
so time moves slower in elbaf or?
50 years, OP has already been claimed for a 3rd time & Imu died 47 years ago
LOL
Peak
based on the warning from Louie and the conversation with Shanks and Gaban in the bath. i just don't know if it means it moves faster or slower. i'm not saying i subscribe to the theory, only that this is the evidence
Arnot is a yapper
There is no time dilation
I guess slower yeah, all i know is that 2 years in the Heaven Realm equal 3 days in the rest of the world
well gaban and rayleigh look the same age so surely time in elbaf isnt that much different
So about Gaban
we still on this?
Idek, I just need this arc over with already
the time dilation affects humans but not giants according to arsal I think
Apparently
Oda mentioned that he wanders around very very often
why do you dislike elbaf?
I'll shamelessly link this joke I made because I'm kinda proud of it #also-manga message
No Kid
It could be because he's aware of the effects
It could be because he's aware that he shouldn't linger in Elbaf for too long
Imagine being aware but not warning people
It's not an issue yet, give him some time
I bet my very soul there is no time dilation
time dilation would be really weird
Literally you're the one who should believe in my idea the most
why would oda want a time dilation/skip
Because I'm expecting Kid to return from a timeskip
Timeskip idea?
Yes
@hazy turret do you watch family guy
No
but Kidd's involvement was hinted at with the mechanical heart and "magnetism" with which the GK's bodys reattach. This should fuel your cope.
I’m surprised
So where is he right now
Training with Shiki and shikis son killer
This is Oda we’re talking about, I’m not gonna let him get my hopes up anymore
Kid Pirates were destroyed by Shanks the same way the SHs were in Sabaody
Demaro Black is literally cosplaying him right now
He's going through the same shit as Luffy
Magnet holy knights with steel hearts
Yeah
We weren’t allowed to watch it and simpsons
Heaven Realm
Every weird girl I know loves family guy so I just sssumed
Assumed
I could watch sanjisons but not family guy
It's been 3 days since Kid lost
I’m not weird
I mean its true, its a very very clear parallel
You don’t have to lie to me
You make a compelling argument
So, Dorry & Brogy took his ship out & did the final attack just for the Giants to rescue him & to let them up into the Heaven realm, a place that might be the most sacred area of Elbaf 
Is Rokaya our Meg?
She love me at my Lois, no Peter griffin
I dont think you should listen to Arsal...
time dialation is not happenig
I agree, he thinks lufff is beating imu
He makes a good point though
Very clear
Louie warned us about something, whatever the fuck it is. Time dilation is all we have to work with for now right?
Yeah
who tf is louie
well... he's right about that
like why we taking this nigga's word seriously
Arnot
I want a creamy ass beer
I mean why else would it be included
explorer
"mysticall"
It doesn't have to be a rescue, might be like Wano where BM and Luffy ended up on the beach of Kuri because that's just how it is
Are we only supposed to listen to someone if they’re a mythical godking super creature
oda is cooking up some weird shit with elbaf
What if it was the bear? WHAT IF IT WAS THE BEAR HE WAS WARNING US ABOUT?!
Yeah
look at that evil little shit
Yes
I'm correct here too ofc
Okay but why would they then let him up into the Heaven realm of all places
Luffy is going to lose. Badly I hope.
After he openly pointed a weapon at Elbaf
Oh no not right now, eventually Buffy
Fucked big mom
I would like it to be now, plz
did kidd actually think he can beat shanks?
Apparently
like
Yeah
I need to see G5 humbled outside just "i need food"
What made you think its sacred? We know NOTHING about the place.
Nope, he told his crew to give him fake poneglyph rubbings shanks literally cant check
Kidd helped beat big mom, i'm not surprised he took a cheap shot at shanks screw
He's losing now smh
He didn’t even start it
They did
They antagonized him first
No they didn't
oh i thought you were saying it's going to happen later
No one fact check me on this
I think Kidd started it?
i mean true
Yes they did
William Kidd was caught carrying documents
They thought they took the documents off him but the real ones were seen into his clothes @ashen perch @hazy turret
We actually don't know how it started
YOU JUST SAID THEY DIDNT
Lmao
Kidd directly targeted the weaker members of the crew right?
Before that I mean
they sorrounded him first
i need the panel
Its the "Heaven realm"... come on Arsal, the Giants are totally gonna let the guys that just tried to attack up there for sure...
like 8 of them were talking shit to kidd and his crew
Where did it start? The possible idea is that maybe he just wanted the glory of beating an emperor, but that's never stated
I don’t have faith in Oda
Its very obviously not just some place anybody can visit on Elbaf
Oh
I have
lmao why is shanks called godking
Its not heaven because its sacred though, the word carries many meanings and most relate it to the stars, the skies and the cosmos in Japanese
is it an sbs title or agenda title
He would never make shanks come out of an exchange looking the fool
Agenda
After updating how he intentionally got his arm bit off and interfering with Tiger's glory, I believe you wholeheartedly.
See? Exactly this
You know for a fact, like i said its not just some place that they'd let anybody visit, especially not someone who literally just pointed a fucking weapon at them... especially with your hyperbolic time chamber Heaven realm idea
"Oh you just tried to attack us? Sure go train up there & get stronger to potentially attack us again"
They don't even need to know anyways lol
But there's no reason to think that they actually treat the place as special or especially sacred
who attacked them in this scenario?
Kid
Its the heaven realm because its in the sky
ah
i assume the heaven realm is like a bureaucracy of old farts stuck in their ways.
Urogue.......
urogue has to be waiting in the heaven realm
Interesting the castle isnt in the heaven realm
Also I agree yeah
Its likely where the elders are
Jarul aside
Loki kills the elders for Ida and Harald's memory. 😈
People really over exaggerate the pointing weapon thing, it was pointing in that direction but he wasn’t aiming for elbaf
If the giants are actually butthurt over it then they’re a bunch of giant COWARDS
Sorry
"Sorry i shot you, i wasn't aiming for you though... just your friends friends on your shore"
But he didn’t though ?? Even if the attack went off it wouldn’t have hit elbaf
I think most wouldnt care given the circumstances
Guys let’s be serious PLEASE
Elbaf is massive and let’s remember how tiny a human is
Why so serious?
It wouldn’t have made a scratch on the shores of elbaf
Its an attack on their allies, on their shore... thats as good as an attack on them as you can get
True
They started it though??
???
But it would have killed some friends
Rokaya is saying Kid is WEAK
Kid literally pulled up wanting smoke
Kid shows up to elbaf, shanks tells him to leave or fight
WRONG
he didn’t go to elbaf looking for shanks
You will not bait me
well thats true initially
but then when he does find out Shanks is there, he should have listened to Killer
man how incredible would it be for demaro kid to show up to final war
it cant happen it would be too mean to kid but it would be an incredible choice
tho Kid has had bad luck with encountering Yonkos lmao
Kaido just fell on top of him
and then Shanks just popped out of nowhere
Guy is always ready to throw hands
well he coulda backed off right he had that conversation with killer
he may not have sought out the fight but he did choose it
he himself says you shouldnt be in New World, if you arent prepared to die
yeah but i guess i would say that this one is kinda just par for the course if you want to be this far down the difficult path
there was high power hostility at every destination it wasnt especially unlucky to encounter some
I wonder why Imu refused to answer Cobra on this when he was just going to kill Cobra anyways
you can kinda reflect that reasoning the other way too, why bother telling him when you’re just going to kill him anyway
Imu is TWO people
One of them is the shadowy blob and the other is the chad we’ve had in recent chapters
Imu is ONE HUNDRED people
or rather one hundred tontattas
They are separate people
Ok no that’s just ridiculous
Lets be realistic here atleast 🙄
Anyways, the shadowy blob is a lady and the current one on elbaf is a dude and they’re lovers
Sry I didn’t mean to come off as rude it was a joke
Because Imu told him a bunch of other stuff after that
Imu can still be female and here’s how:
i guess that went too far for him
actually there’s 3 imus
the full demon is a woman, blob is non binary and the elbaf one is a man
Which is the third
Doc Q
Ohh
Full demon like the one that chased after Sabo?
yeah
I see
So you want the big one to be a lady? nice.
Yea that makes sense
I wasn’t gonna say anything
But…
That one trans character I forgot the name off that made Sanji gay
was it when he was on kamabakka?
Yes
i don't remember honestly
The big head one
wait you mean ivankov?
Looks like wario
Ah I thought you meant one of the many people chasing him on the island lol
was it charlotte?
But yeah Ivankov could totally do it
oh wait, I misremembered the name
I think he's referring to Caroline or Tibany
i forgot oda named them
There's too many characters
TRUE
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Tibany was this who you were referring to
Either that or my brain just can't remember all of them
kill them all imu
No, I was referring to ivankov
just note that Tibany was the main one to make him into one of them :p
Forgot about that, peeked into his crotch and all that
Tibany is such an odd name. Was it Oda trying to be funny with Tiffany?
(what did oda mean by this)
me and oda had no plans for tiffany’s name whatsoever but good suspicion
tell me your secrets editor
tibany was named Elizabeth in the anime funny enough lulz
that's interesting
Ig the name was just too weird for it
Tibany doesn't roll of the tongue for me as smoothly as Tiffany. But I also grew up only knowing Tiffany lol
No way tibany is an actual name
I hunger
🍖
🍅
We gotta put an end to One Piece fans once and for all I think
People like this guy ruin legitimate theories for people
second time i've seen that theory this weekend
Mihawk is the devil!!!!! Omg!!!111
i guess they're referencing when imu mentioned "what's the difference" or something like that?
And also the chapters end in a 1 !!!
As a theorist, there's nothing more I hate than someone who's bad at the craft
Its called artistic pride, you wouldn't get it
Yes but it has nothing to do with Luffy v Mihawk lol
i know i'm just trying to get into the mindset of tinfoil connections
tinfoil tends to see connections where there are none
Here's a better connection
is that what oda thinks canadians wear
tinfoil theories are just cherry picking or confirmation bias
The chapter where Doflamingo gets defeated, where he launches his final attack: 16 (Imu) Holy Bullets
oh yeah for sure
Its cold up in the north eh
oda would be awesome at doing character design for a punch out game
Heaven represents the Sun, Earth represents the Earth God, the devil
It's much simpler than trying to connect it to Luffy v Mihawk
It's theoryslop
the best way I can describe this is an idiot thinking he's a literary genius who can notice parallels and other techniques, but hasn't even done an AP class
They actually adapted the line in the ep that comes out at the same time, that's funny
I'm convined the average One Piece fan online has an IQ of 20
like I can say with a straight face that any OP fan that is a "theorist" hasn't taken an english class above the basic level
Don't show this to that man
Lmao
Morj......
they say big words like parallels and foreshadowing but can barely describe to you what they actually mean
lucci...
and i've earned my right to say it! I got a 4 on my AP Lit exam! sucka!
They learned those terms in 6th grade english man give them a break, that's actually super high level to them
Morj can't take this from me. His video is only a month old
i got a 5. you are nothing to me
I know its just funny
it's ok to be a morj fan arsal
I was referencing that video with Morj saying the legoland segment was foreshadowing Imu
mane who cares i still got college credit, i got to skip first year writing
i saved on thousands in tuition
classic deflection from a 4
Yeah I meant that I had that take before him smh
i'm kidding by the way i'm too old for ap scores to matter for me
i did minor in english though in college
It just confirms the long-standing theory on Morj, he's a r/onepiece lurker (subreddit and server)
Minors in English
Speaks English already
Curious
i hate that my only writing experience in university came from writing lab reports and research essays
i got none of the literary skills with all of the big words
why do you think i can speak english now...
no i'm not
i mean he's not
I mean, that's common with like stem students unfortunately
But you dont need an english degree to become highly literate
Just read a lot
hmm
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooo
It reverses your literacy unfortunately
You're giving yourself brainrot
it’s the same effect for the most part
you get all of the big words without any of the literacy
💀 media literacy
discord literacy 
you are one of the most active users in this chat if not the most active
do you contribute to the brainrot?
Earth I have a question

Do you support murder
literate these
-planet earth
Slaughter of the Innocents
nuts
iterate this 
I'm the cleanser of the rot, the reason for the balance between slop and gem here.
bro is programming in python on discord
if you cleanse it does that mean you also hold all of it
I fight against it
arsal doesnt practice safe disposal and thus is slowly being poisoned by the slop he hopes to prevent
Thought this said attractive
LMAO
that could also be valid

also manga activeness might directly correlate with attractiveness
it's definitely up there for most attractive users
also off topic is in the conversation
Reminds me
?
This ur alt?
I think he might want you
That's Cunk

Do y’all think Oda will reveal who adam and eves kids got with
cunk is an arsal alt
Cunk is ur alt
I mean he’s speaking from experience. See his theories for example…
In an sbs
they do both like feet...
i dont think he'll go beyond VC
All gems btw
The mural suggests he will tho
shame we'll probably never get the full story of what really occurred in the first world
arsal just posts gemslop
we getting spoilers this week?
Imu got with Joyboy
probably not because of the usual leakers getting hunted down at this time
we might get a bit
I think its a given considering the mural
We might not get em any week brother 😭😭😭
spoilers never
Is cunk a real person
arsal is at like 200k or something right
The mural suggests thid story starts with the 1st world which meams it will be included in the lore
he’s unfortunately set the upper limit too high
I'm at like 560k in the server now I believe
Oh in also manga, probably?
ok lowkey i am down for no spoilers
Qualityslop
Arsal's message count makes up 50% of discord data storage
i see
You only like it because its good
you should donate 20k messages to each new comer so they can reach captain


