#also-manga

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maiden saffron
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so oda was definitely planning a way to fight them

grand flower
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The mantra that Zoro uses to cut Daz Bones is used in Wano to learn Haki

ashen perch
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Where he calls it haki, So it's definitely meant to be haki

mighty shell
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retroactively i've always thought it was zoro unconsciously using both observation and armament haki and not knowing what either is so he's not able to do it on command

trim lily
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i’m more of a pessimist when it comes to that kind of stuff, so i’d read it as more of “oh, i can feel/sense it” trope than outright haki

solid stone
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I wonder if we're gonna get a haki name drop in OPLA season 3

grand flower
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During the end of Alabasta, Zoro says “I have to learn how to draw on that power at will or I’m not really stronger” @maiden saffron

mighty shell
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the fact that blackbeard said "haki" in jaya makes me think oda had thought of it by zoro vs mr 1

maiden saffron
urban lodge
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I remember arguing about it with Bean years ago and he made me feel wrong and humiliated for thinking it was haki 😔

thick mango
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but arent there two possibilities here.

  1. Its described initially in this way because of the long term plan
  2. When describing it again in the future, you go back and use the words you previously established. Because the specific words are abitrary and the concept is still close enough that it fits
trim lily
dense haven
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lola traded loki for absalom

royal orchid
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man this guy Absalom was lost there

keen falcon
maiden saffron
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I think oda was definitely setting up some sort of future power path for Zoro

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we just didn't know it was haki, that ANYONE can use

formal wagon
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A domestic goose chase is embarassing

maiden saffron
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zoro even literally says "my will is flowing into my sword"

royal orchid
maiden saffron
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as far as i remember

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Lmfao

solid stone
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chapter 1's awesome

formal wagon
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Larpatron

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Thats fire

ashen perch
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Crocodile actually straight up wonders if Luffy has haki when he gets hit by Water Luffy, this is like 3 chapters after Zoro v Mr 1

solid stone
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i hope Wit Piece does a faithful adaptation

formal wagon
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+2

solid stone
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just for ep 1 alone

maiden saffron
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i hope wit piece lasts until my kids graduate university and cure cancer

trim lily
formal wagon
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I hope we get more novels instead

dense haven
dense rapids
royal orchid
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demonicious if his children don't cure cancer

trim lily
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is there any point to vaguely alluding to it for like 200 more chapters

ashen perch
maiden saffron
grand flower
grand flower
maiden saffron
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we get bits and pieces that let us speculate for years

grand flower
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Haki appears every saga fr

keen falcon
maiden saffron
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until its finally explained

ashen perch
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Also, Oda likes to do things this way lol

grand flower
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After Skypeia, Shanks uses Haki on Whitebeard’s ship

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Sentomaru uses it on Sabaody

royal orchid
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I don't think it's crazy to say oda had the idea for conq haki during chapter 1

trim lily
grand flower
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Then Theres Amazon Lily

keen falcon
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After skypeia it definitely gets far more obvious and rayleigh and people use it explicitly

maiden saffron
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yeah i mean all of demon slayer is barely longer than wano alone

grand flower
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Oda had a lot of Haki pre-skip

ashen perch
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It's all about timing to him, he won't do anything if he deems the timing to not be right

royal orchid
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he definitely didn't have armament or observation in mind just yet but

maiden saffron
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so yeah, One Piece is different lol

maiden saffron
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cant really compare it to other manga

keen falcon
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I just think the Six Powers during enies lobby probably should've been haki's reveal instead

grand flower
ashen perch
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Until the time is right, Oda's gonna vaguepost

maiden saffron
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usually when stories have THIS many chapters, they're not a continuously running story

solid stone
maiden saffron
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they're short stories that are self contained

ashen perch
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This is One Piece, Oda's the king of vagueposting

maiden saffron
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with maybe an overarching background story that moves at a snails pace

trim lily
maiden saffron
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One Piece is one continuous story that's been running for 3 decades

royal orchid
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this server has more lore than one piece

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one piece sux

solid stone
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because one piece isn't just another story it's #also-manga

mighty shell
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the main argument against oda knowing what he wanted haki to do is ace lol both vs smoker and blackbeard

gentle terrace
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Why is everyone saying full body haki isn’t effective? All I see is all of one piece’s most powerful characters using it, look at them😭

trim lily
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speaking of haki

maiden saffron
grand flower
maiden saffron
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with some highlights and all

gentle terrace
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They’ve never been silhouettes

trim lily
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so is haki supposed to be invisible or is it black in universe

grand flower
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Can Daz Bones turn himself into a black blade so he can say it?

gentle terrace
maiden saffron
ashen perch
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Invisible unless its permanent

keen falcon
trim lily
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yeah but then what the hell are black blades

maiden saffron
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and for rule of cool

trim lily
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why are they not invisible

gentle terrace
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“Iš airbending invisible or not” ah question

ashen perch
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Permanent haki

grand flower
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We know that Oda thinks of Haki as visible

solid stone
grand flower
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Oda came up with “Black Arm Zephyr”

trim lily
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oh yeah

ashen perch
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Good point

urban lodge
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It's weird though because it can't be permanent haki because of Zoro cutting Monet

trim lily
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at this point might as well consider it to be black canonically

solid stone
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actually that reminds me

urban lodge
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Unless it's only permanent if wielded by the original user

ashen perch
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Yeah that's pretty undeniable I forgot lol

solid stone
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oda did color snakeman red, like toei did for boundman

maiden saffron
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I think black blades are gonna be related to death

grand flower
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Mihawk also implies it

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“All blades become black with haki”

gentle terrace
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Do you guys consider haki black or purple, I’ve always thought of it as purple idk why

urban lodge
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I think it's tied to the soul or something

urban lodge
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Basically a sword version of an awakening

maiden saffron
ashen perch
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Makes sense, because obviously Zoro didn't make his blade black but he clearly has drunk alcohol since then

urban lodge
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You need to be in perfect sync with your blade

maiden saffron
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its usually black with gray outlines and sometimes a very dark purple with bright purple outlines

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and sometimes red ...

ashen perch
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So he must've been referring to haki black not permanent black

maiden saffron
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and one or two times even yellow

trim lily
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blue haki

maiden saffron
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my favorite version of haki is the matte black you see in film z though

lofty fern
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I'm not a big Mihawk fan, but this is super cool

solid stone
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kaido once said #redhaki triumphs all

maiden saffron
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its beautiful

ashen perch
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Oda's drawn it red, blue and black

solid stone
keen falcon
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Garp uses haki to punch luffy in post enies lobby

gentle terrace
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Omen is gonna be a whole new power system, 3rd power system in one piece incoming, or fourth after dials, holy shit I want dials back, wait no it’s the fifth power system, after the CP9 abilities, Damn theres a lot, wait 6 after mrs goldenweek’s paint since its not a devil fruit

mighty shell
solid stone
maiden saffron
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dials arent even a power system

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they're just weapons

gentle terrace
maiden saffron
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as for CP9 abilities

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they're martial arts

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sanji and luffy even learnt them

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like sky walk

solid stone
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rokushiki

ashen perch
keen falcon
ashen perch
pulsar timber
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When will Zoro start making his blades black

solid stone
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i find it funny than infinite jumping is a thing

maiden saffron
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tomorrow

pulsar timber
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Conquerors probably has something to do with it too

prisma idol
pulsar timber
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His haki control is bad

gentle terrace
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CP9 abilities are practically a power system tbh, just bc they’re martial arts doesn’t change the fact they’re breaking physics

wraith mantle
thick mango
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how about film green but its all about pop greens. nothing but pop greens. 90 minutes of like 60 new pop greens

ashen perch
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Hype

solid stone
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oh sick

pulsar timber
solid stone
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i forget he's caught up now

solid stone
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i gotta see his wano thoughts

ashen perch
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Y'all arent ready for Heavenly Pop Greens

wraith mantle
solid stone
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lol arsal did you see the plot for the Universal show

hot cairn
ashen perch
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I follow that guy but I have never seen a video before

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Its funny

urban lodge
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He's cool

maiden saffron
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You're not ready for monster point bepo

ashen perch
maiden saffron
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in the final war

pulsar timber
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I’ve never heard of this bub

ashen perch
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I love his tweets, he's cool indeed

solid stone
maiden saffron
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it was a fun time when everyone thought robin knew haki

urban lodge
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But this is gonna sound weird but I think he's almost toxically positive sometimes

maiden saffron
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that would be scary though

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imagine she just cracks smoker's skull

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and he cant do anything

ashen perch
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I'm sure the videos are good, I've just never gotten around to watching em

hot cairn
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he's great

keen falcon
gentle terrace
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It was also a fun time when we thought imu was a woman, or that the gorosei were genuinely top of the verse 😭

solid stone
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one of my comments got on there before

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name got pronounced as "ze-feer-is" though 😅

gentle terrace
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Gorosei biggest let down since idk when

maiden saffron
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just didnt have the time for it

odd rune
prisma idol
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You know arsal I was thinking how could usopp have a really good moment and I was thinking of something similar to what he does to bullet happening against imu

keen falcon
urban lodge
# hot cairn how so

I think he dismisses some criticism that is actually valid in some occasions

gentle terrace
prisma idol
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Not exactly the same obviously but similar

ashen perch
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I think he's gonna have another interaction with Imu so I can see it

solid stone
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A childhood friend inspiring Luffy to find a musician for his crew was such a good idea

prisma idol
urban lodge
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I haven't kept up with his streams or videos in a while though so I can't think of any examples off the top of my head but that's something I remember feeling watching him

latent hamlet
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"why did u recruit brook"
"he plays jammies"

prisma idol
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Fer like fur

ashen perch
solid stone
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also cool that the film red tie-ins gave us the earliest look we've gotten at Luffy's past, even if canonicity is up for debate

latent hamlet
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thats dumb af YUBBIEFUCKINGHOLYSHITJESUSCHRIST

ashen perch
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I don't get the Uta hate, she fits in so nicely and she's really cool

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The first idea

odd rune
ashen perch
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Of the next film

gentle terrace
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Douglas Bullet is my fav non canon character

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Gosh I love bullet

latent hamlet
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i think Uta had....an ungodly amount of advertising for what was essentially "luffy's best girl that's totally canon but not canon sorta"

mighty shell
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there were some fun filler episodes that tied into film red in the anime i thought they were super cute

solid stone
gentle terrace
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If he was canon he’d be one of my favourite villains, top 3 even

ashen perch
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It wasn't film red, it was just whatever followed Film Stampede, the idea was that Luffy would go back in time and meet a former user of the Gomu Gomu no Mi

Oda rejected it

prisma idol
ashen perch
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And came up with Uta

odd rune
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its pronounced zephyr

blazing depot
blazing depot
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Canon is bullshit tbh

solid stone
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oh alright lol

latent hamlet
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i think most people would see Uta as basically "SO I MADE AN OC, SHE WAS ACTUALLY LUFFY'S CHILDHOOD BEST FRIEND GIRLFRIEND"

mighty shell
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tot musica is cool as hell with the knowledge of imu's powers now

ashen perch
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I hate that criticism so much

keen falcon
ashen perch
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Its funny when its a meme

odd rune
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tot musica is canon as well

gentle terrace
latent hamlet
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even if u hate it, before u actually watch it, that's the initial info

solid stone
ashen perch
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But the OC thing is just that, a meme. Not legitimate at all.

solid stone
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then they made it a real thing

pulsar timber
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One piece fans when Oda creates a character with traits

thick mango
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i want uta to be used for something in the main story. I dont like making her canon just to hype up the movie and doing nothing with her. Basically 10-20 panels is fine, 0 panels woulda been fine. But 1 panel is bs

latent hamlet
gentle terrace
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I don’t see there being anymore one piece movies tbh

ashen perch
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I wouldn't say that Zyph

prisma idol
gentle terrace
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Red will probably be the last one

ashen perch
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Son and Brother? Yes

pulsar timber
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Sabo has differentiated himself enough for the oc meme to be silly

urban lodge
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Film red 2 is happening

latent hamlet
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part of me thinks sabo's existence in the story is cuz Oda wanted to keep Ace but kill Ace too

mighty shell
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didn't oda say they're working on a new movie. the production is going badly but it's there

pulsar timber
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Sabo is more than an acereplacement

gentle terrace
ashen perch
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Daughter? One Piece fans hate women too much to conceive of a super important daughter for Shanks

tiny oak
solid stone
keen falcon
# gentle terrace I don’t see there being anymore one piece movies tbh

There's no shot with how successful it was that they'd just stop

It is the biggest opening for a One Piece film ever, the third film in Japanese history to make over 1 billion yen on opening day, the best Saturday opening ever for IMAX, and also the second biggest opening day of all the time in Japan.

gentle terrace
maiden saffron
pulsar timber
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There will be one piece movies coming out forever

prisma idol
urban lodge
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They're running out of major things to spoil in the next movie

pulsar timber
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They can make anything they want up

mighty shell
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i've been saying truke for months now

urban lodge
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They missed their chance to spoil Imu

solid stone
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The demographic that would be making fan characters and fan fictions is pretty different from what is now perceived as "average one piece fan"

prisma idol
keen falcon
gentle terrace
solid stone
prisma idol
gentle terrace
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I don’t see how they can go bigger

solid stone
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so potent

urban lodge
pulsar timber
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You can always go bigger

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Always

maiden saffron
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there

tiny oak
keen falcon
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We could see Joyboy or the Great Kingdom or the kingdom's name or stuff, or maybe blackbeard reveals

solid stone
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there's really not that many popular OP fan projects huh

prisma idol
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I do wonder what boice they will give the big mu now, the mixed voice was to keep the secret, but it was much more feminine sounding

ashen perch
solid stone
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besides stuff like One Pace

keen falcon
keen falcon
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For all we know Imu has other forms too

prisma idol
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I do need at the end of this arc for Imu to sit on the throne in demon form

pulsar timber
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His silhoutte isn’t gonna keep the voice

keen falcon
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This was clearly a transformation and not just a reveal

solid stone
mighty shell
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they should make a one piece movie where they don't assassinate sanji's character

ashen perch
keen falcon
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We see the silhouette actively manifest into the demon form

prisma idol
gentle terrace
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If anything, I see the next one piece movie being a legacy movie, like the Pokémon I choose you, movie, maybe like starting the movie from another point in the story, like after thriller bark

pulsar timber
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We can not revert to pre timeskip movies

gentle terrace
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And decreasing stakes

solid stone
ashen perch
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Uta is kinda his sister so in that sense, its close enough I guess

pulsar timber
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Not a chance in hell

ashen perch
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Perhaps

solid stone
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but I remember seeing a couple at least

pulsar timber
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No one is going to see a thriller bark era movie

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These movies exist to make money

solid stone
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actually wait no

tiny oak
solid stone
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love franky but crew feels incomplete with just him and not brook

keen falcon
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We need Jinbe time

pulsar timber
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I killed Franky

ashen perch
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I've seen ideas of a sister in the ASL trio before, and Uta basically manages to be that without interacting with AS

gentle terrace
tiny oak
solid stone
solid stone
pulsar timber
keen falcon
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We need a Cross Guild movie

FIlm Blue

ashen perch
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Also about the next movie, Oda said that its something we would all love to see

pulsar timber
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They can make up literally anything for the next movie

solid stone
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actually

ashen perch
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But that's very vague and tells us absolutely nothing

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Classic Oda

pulsar timber
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What does Oda even think we would all love to see

solid stone
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with OPLA basically being a big reset and bringing in a new wave of fans

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I could see them pulling a Pokemon and doing a "reboot" of the movies

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have it take place much earlier in the story

ashen perch
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I have no clue Caleb

gentle terrace
graceful belfry
ashen perch
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The OP fanbase is hardly a monolith

pulsar timber
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You got all them old movies to watch if you want a feel good movie

ashen perch
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Who is he even talking about when he talks about fans...

pulsar timber
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The movies are for hype moments And aura

solid stone
keen falcon
solid stone
pulsar timber
solid stone
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AYOOOO

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:MIHAWKEYE: LIVES

ashen perch
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They could get away with making a good movie for once

solid stone
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DIED 2020
BORN 2026

WELCOME BACK :mihawkeye:

keen falcon
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Film red was good

ashen perch
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They don't have to keeep doing bad ones

pulsar timber
pulsar timber
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I just see them as hype showcases and good animation

ashen perch
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One Piece is mega popular now, its gonna do a ton of business no matter what

pulsar timber
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Like the Dragonball movies

solid stone
ashen perch
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Chat I think you're missing one word there, good 👍

solid stone
ashen perch
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I like Uta, I don't like Film Red a lot

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I um well, about Stampede uh

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Looks good 👍

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Minus the CGI monstrosity 👎

pulsar timber
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They don’t even need to put in effort anymore

urban lodge
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Place your bets for Uta's placement in the poll for next week's midterm results

ashen perch
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Top 30

solid stone
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Michael D. Lucas recruits fellow students Rollins Zachary and Naomi for his band

mighty shell
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uta will place exactly 27th

urban lodge
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I honestly think she'll be top 20

solid stone
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you guys make the rest of the plot

pulsar timber
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I don’t see them making a movie that doesn’t include a bunch of cameos so I think stampede and film red movies are the future

ashen perch
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They'll make a ton of money no matter what

mighty shell
pulsar timber
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Which is fine because I don’t really care if they make good movies. Just make the animation nice

solid stone
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idk fred or something

gentle terrace
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But I don’t think they can do a new one piece movie from where we’re at during the story, we’ll never have a crazy powerful villain that has a huge gap of power between them and the straw hats, bc the straw hats are getting to top verse, it doesn’t have the same ‘yea we’re gonna support the underdog! Because it seems impossible to beat them!’ If they do introduce a villain like that, idk how they will, bc they’ll be imu level

ashen perch
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Why not just make something good? Something that'll live forever? Do they really always wanna do dumb hype shit

mighty shell
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oh yeah i forgot i have to make white people names

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principal greg and superintendent samuel

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samuel from sakazuki

pulsar timber
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We can have a crazy powerful villain in a new movie

solid stone
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acutally on that note

pulsar timber
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Movie powerscaling makes no sense

solid stone
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Melody is such a perfect name adaptation for Uta

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if they ever did dub names still like 4Kids

pulsar timber
gentle terrace
keen falcon
keen falcon
maiden saffron
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thats blackbeard

gentle terrace
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ENEL MOVIE COME ON!!!

solid stone
maiden saffron
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prequel movie would be great but only after the show ends

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i dont want them to do something dumb

sharp kite
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Enel and Imu both moon God btw

gentle terrace
mighty shell
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do we even have to change robin's name that's a normal ass name

maiden saffron
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like a standard one piece movie

gentle terrace
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Let’s bfr, it’s probably super likely, they’ll go for a sequel movie for all of one piece after it ends, like one piece 10 years after the ending

mighty shell
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nicky robin

maiden saffron
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starring the roger pirates instead of luffy

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it'll never happen

solid stone
maiden saffron
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but imagine

pulsar timber
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One piece the last

keen falcon
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The Second Piece

solid stone
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what do you even call Usopp and Sanji

gentle terrace
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There’s definitely gonna be sequel movie; they gonna squeeze every drop of money out of this shit

keen falcon
maiden saffron
hot cairn
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Nami sakuga in the new episodeLuffyPog

mighty shell
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what do we think about ulysses

solid stone
maiden saffron
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Insists upon itself

solid stone
gentle terrace
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“One piece ten years later! Imu’s reckoning” and it’s about how like imu dies in the main series and he leaves a mask behind or smth and someone in the movie wears the mask and imu captures their soul as a vessel or some shit like that 😭😭😭

pulsar timber
solid stone
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I see it

pulsar timber
solid stone
mighty shell
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these are some goofy ass names

pulsar timber
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Unique

solid stone
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Unique

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LOL

maiden saffron
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Lmfaooo

gentle terrace
maiden saffron
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Guy named unique ☠️ ☠️

pulsar timber
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Child naming, just like tattoos, are an intelligence test

mighty shell
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usher...

dense rapids
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When the Holy Land infiltration happens you guys think we’re gonna get some of the Strawhats in a CD disguise 😂

gentle terrace
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Uoghan

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Is a name

mighty shell
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is that just pronounced like juan

gentle terrace
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No

maiden saffron
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Ts Irish

lofty fern
maiden saffron
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So it’s probably pronounced like Jonathan

pulsar timber
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Stampede powerscalinf was absurd

mighty shell
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usman is lowkey a good name given usopp is african

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he's the diversity student

solid stone
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old OP movies really are a time capsule

gentle terrace
pulsar timber
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Apparently Rayleigh >all supernovas at the same time and Zoro was alive fighting Fujitora. Before Enma

solid stone
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the thought of Jinbe being turned into Jimmy/Jimbo....

mighty shell
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i thought he could be like jimmy B

maiden saffron
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Lmao

solid stone
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mirror B's cousin

maiden saffron
mighty shell
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arlong as arnold......

maiden saffron
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Need ishizuka to draw some peak like this again

solid stone
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when they played that zoro remix for the first time

maiden saffron
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Timeless action episode

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One of the very best

solid stone
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I love the early straw hat themes

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gonna miss the soundtrack when wit piece comes along

maiden saffron
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They’re definitely making covers for some songs

hazy turret
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Hey guy

mighty shell
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nami's theme is one of my favorite songs in the series

solid stone
maiden saffron
solid stone
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LA's is cool too but......

mighty shell
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it's not very early but franky's theme is kind of insane

mighty shell
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actually it first plays in alabasta so nvm it is early

maiden saffron
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Namis theme is awesome

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Most of them are

hazy turret
solid stone
wraith mantle
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nami's theme is cool but rocks'?? just the strongest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fss4JHvgMIc

Epic orchestral cover of the Rocks Pirates theme or God Valley theme (ゴッドバレー) from One Piece Episode 1130 and Episode 1153 and Manga Chapter 1159, during the famous God Valley Incident.

「ワンピース」第1130話/原作1159話の“ゴッドバレー事件”で、ロックス海賊団が上陸するシーンのテーマ曲...

▶ Play video
maiden saffron
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I’m sorry rokaya hello to you too

solid stone
maiden saffron
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Blackbeards theme is awesome

solid stone
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same w/ that stampede track they repurposed as kid's theme

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they don't really feel like their themes to me

maiden saffron
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Frankys theme would go stupid on a csgo fragmovie

solid stone
maiden saffron
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Hatred

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I think a couple of these are fanmade

solid stone
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siick

maiden saffron
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Like the first one but most are ishizuka

wraith mantle
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koby and garps pic is so tough

solid stone
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it was perfect

urban lodge
#

The Koby and Garp one was my phone background for a while

ruby moat
solid stone
maiden saffron
#

It doesn’t exist yeah

ruby moat
#

It was released as a tease before the episode

#

And then wasn’t in the episode

pulsar timber
#

Koby…. CharlossDurr

maiden saffron
#

Coby and garp never stood like that

ruby moat
#

Ye

maiden saffron
#

It’s just ishizuka making a cool sneak peek

wraith mantle
urban lodge
#

One day you'll appreciate his greatness Muk

pulsar timber
#

No reaction

#

Because Oda won’t ever give him any meaningful or insightful commentary

ruby moat
pulsar timber
#

“Wow the word government sure is evil”

solid stone
#

they never really used it outside of the eyecatch iirc

wraith mantle
#

or would he switch up

#

and fight with luffy

ruby moat
#

Probably would work towards changing the marines from within and trying to disconnect them from the wg

wraith mantle
#

makes sense, thats garp's approach and he would probably follow it too

pulsar timber
#

I wish Oda made the future of the marines a more interesting character

#

But we can’t have everything we wish for

mighty shell
#

i quite like koby agendas aside

wraith mantle
#

the future of the marines is akainu

mighty shell
#

it's been interesting seeing him have to contend with his idea of what marines should be and what they really are

unkempt sable
wraith mantle
#

i cant imagine akainu remaining loyal to the WG after figuring out the WG a bunch of demon lords

pulsar timber
mighty shell
#

that's fine he's only been around a tiny bit

pulsar timber
#

Which is part of my problem

mighty shell
#

i don't think it's that big of a deal

brittle basin
#

well, Oda made a giant world with lots of characters and only so little panel time. gg.

unkempt sable
#

Imagine akainu finds out imu was friends with the first pirate WAKAINU

mighty shell
#

oda will bring koby and his story back when it's relevant and it'll be relevant soon

pulsar timber
#

It just makes me not care about Koby. Even less than I did pre timeskip

#

And it’s hard to stomach because odas gonna force feed him to the top

pulsar timber
#

And shove him in my face

urban lodge
#

I have high hopes for Akainu, I think he has massive potential as a character

wraith mantle
#

different POVs

#

absolute cinema

unkempt sable
#

I think he is being relegated to a revolutionary enemy rather than a strawhat one

mighty shell
#

the marines in general haven't had a big role in the timeskip era

pulsar timber
#

Akainu is someone I am actually interested in thankfully

brittle basin
#

Don't worry, Muk, we have the live action to give Koby all the screentime he needs. Well, except for the part where he was on-screen for like 5 minutes this season. Shit.

pulsar timber
unkempt sable
pulsar timber
unkempt sable
#

I do wonder what the end game for kuzan is tho

pulsar timber
#

It is what it is at this point

unkempt sable
#

Because I feel like it’s more than just stop bb

mighty shell
#

i get your perspective it's just not something i think about cause at worst i'm like ambivalent about koby. when he shows up i'm like yay when he doesn't i'm too focused on everything else in the world to notice

pulsar timber
pulsar timber
#

Furthermore the marines are the most intriguing cast of characters to me and then you have Koby, most important of them all, being not interesting at all

#

It’s not hate for me it’s more frustration

#

Something that I am weirdly passionate about

hazy turret
#

It’s a mix of both for me

brittle basin
#

I don't think Koby has ever had significant screentime, correct? Ever since the beginning? The most was MF?

keen falcon
#

And post enies lobby

pulsar timber
#

Yes he has never had significant screentime

wraith mantle
#

koby's issue is that he is too much of a green flag

#

zero moral greyness

pulsar timber
#

I’m fine with Koby being a green flag

wraith mantle
#

well, till he has to make a decision about what being a marine really means (after he figure out the WG is ruled by demons)

hazy turret
#

But I think I just don’t like goody two shoe, aloof/naive characters. It’s even worse that he’s in a position of authority and people depend on him to protect them

ashen perch
#

Koby had 3 chapters in East Blue, 2 chapters in Post Enies Lobby, a few pages in Marineford and Post Marineford and maybe 4 the entire Post TS.

Give him some time idk

grand flower
#

Muk: I don’t hate koby

Rokaya: I do

Toothpaste Transylvania guy:

ashen perch
#

Dude

pulsar timber
#

Fire picture

hazy turret
#

Here comes the number one Koby apologist

ashen perch
#

That's gotta be nsfw

hazy turret
#

Number one marine apologist

grand flower
hazy turret
ashen perch
#

But like I said with Koby, give him some time, he's still very young and quite naive. Let him cook a little bit, let him grow

pulsar timber
#

Whatever he gets he gets

ashen perch
#

But the difference there isn't just screentime

#

When I say time I don't mean just more screentime

#

I mean he's still young

pulsar timber
#

He’s gonna be this young for the remainder of the series

ashen perch
#

I don't think so

hazy turret
#

Him and Luffy have been at sea for the same amount of time, yet Luffy understands the world much better

brittle basin
#

Arsal is expecting a timeskip with Elbaf, right?

ashen perch
#

Yeah, one way or another

hazy turret
#

Oh LOL

pulsar timber
#

The world is moving too fast for a timeskip

ashen perch
#

That's why there's another way!

pulsar timber
#

We had our one and only one mid way through

brittle basin
#

He means timeskip in that time flows differently on Elbaf

dense haven
#

time dilation

pulsar timber
#

And how much time are we expected to skip here on elbaf?

urban lodge
#

I thought the new theory was legoland time loop

hazy turret
#

so time moves slower in elbaf or?

iron oriole
brittle basin
# hazy turret so time moves slower in elbaf or?

based on the warning from Louie and the conversation with Shanks and Gaban in the bath. i just don't know if it means it moves faster or slower. i'm not saying i subscribe to the theory, only that this is the evidence

pulsar timber
#

Arnot is a yapper

hot cairn
pulsar timber
#

There is no time dilation

ashen perch
#

I guess slower yeah, all i know is that 2 years in the Heaven Realm equal 3 days in the rest of the world

wraith mantle
#

well gaban and rayleigh look the same age so surely time in elbaf isnt that much different

ashen perch
#

So about Gaban

hot cairn
hazy turret
brittle basin
#

the time dilation affects humans but not giants according to arsal I think

pulsar timber
ashen perch
#

Oda mentioned that he wanders around very very often

wraith mantle
urban lodge
hazy turret
#

No Kid

ashen perch
#

It could be because he's aware that he shouldn't linger in Elbaf for too long

iron oriole
#

Imagine being aware but not warning people

ashen perch
#

It's not an issue yet, give him some time

pulsar timber
#

I bet my very soul there is no time dilation

wraith mantle
#

time dilation would be really weird

ashen perch
wraith mantle
#

why would oda want a time dilation/skip

ashen perch
#

Because I'm expecting Kid to return from a timeskip

hazy turret
#

Timeskip idea?

ashen perch
#

Yes

grand flower
#

@hazy turret do you watch family guy

hazy turret
#

No

brittle basin
# hazy turret No Kid

but Kidd's involvement was hinted at with the mechanical heart and "magnetism" with which the GK's bodys reattach. This should fuel your cope.

grand flower
#

I’m surprised

hazy turret
grand flower
hazy turret
ashen perch
#

Kid Pirates were destroyed by Shanks the same way the SHs were in Sabaody
Demaro Black is literally cosplaying him right now

#

He's going through the same shit as Luffy

grand flower
ashen perch
#

Yeah

hazy turret
ashen perch
grand flower
#

Assumed

#

I could watch sanjisons but not family guy

ashen perch
#

It's been 3 days since Kid lost

hazy turret
#

I guess

ashen perch
#

And we all know 3 Days

#

Is 2 Years

hazy turret
ashen perch
#

I mean its true, its a very very clear parallel

grand flower
hazy turret
iron oriole
# ashen perch Heaven Realm

So, Dorry & Brogy took his ship out & did the final attack just for the Giants to rescue him & to let them up into the Heaven realm, a place that might be the most sacred area of Elbaf LuffyThink

brittle basin
#

Is Rokaya our Meg?

grand flower
#

She love me at my Lois, no Peter griffin

hot cairn
#

time dialation is not happenig

grand flower
ashen perch
hazy turret
#

He makes a good point though

ashen perch
#

Very clear

brittle basin
#

Louie warned us about something, whatever the fuck it is. Time dilation is all we have to work with for now right?

wraith mantle
#

who tf is louie

hot cairn
wraith mantle
#

like why we taking this nigga's word seriously

hazy turret
grand flower
hazy turret
brittle basin
wraith mantle
#

explorer

wraith mantle
ashen perch
hazy turret
#

Are we only supposed to listen to someone if they’re a mythical godking super creature

wraith mantle
#

oda is cooking up some weird shit with elbaf

brittle basin
#

What if it was the bear? WHAT IF IT WAS THE BEAR HE WAS WARNING US ABOUT?!

brittle basin
#

look at that evil little shit

ashen perch
iron oriole
brittle basin
#

Luffy is going to lose. Badly I hope.

iron oriole
#

After he openly pointed a weapon at Elbaf

ashen perch
#

Oh no not right now, eventually Buffy

hazy turret
brittle basin
wraith mantle
#

did kidd actually think he can beat shanks?

iron oriole
#

Apparently

wraith mantle
#

like

hazy turret
brittle basin
#

I need to see G5 humbled outside just "i need food"

ashen perch
grand flower
brittle basin
#

Kidd helped beat big mom, i'm not surprised he took a cheap shot at shanks screw

ashen perch
hazy turret
#

They did

#

They antagonized him first

ashen perch
#

No they didn't

brittle basin
hazy turret
#

No one fact check me on this

brittle basin
#

I think Kidd started it?

hazy turret
grand flower
# wraith mantle i mean true

William Kidd was caught carrying documents

They thought they took the documents off him but the real ones were seen into his clothes @ashen perch @hazy turret

ashen perch
#

We actually don't know how it started

grand flower
#

Think about it

#

How would shanks verify what he took from them

hazy turret
ashen perch
#

Lmao

brittle basin
#

Kidd directly targeted the weaker members of the crew right?

ashen perch
#

Before that I mean

wraith mantle
brittle basin
#

i need the panel

iron oriole
wraith mantle
#

like 8 of them were talking shit to kidd and his crew

ashen perch
#

Where did it start? The possible idea is that maybe he just wanted the glory of beating an emperor, but that's never stated

iron oriole
#

Its very obviously not just some place anybody can visit on Elbaf

grand flower
ashen perch
#

I have

hazy turret
#

He wouldn’t do it

#

He would never do something to undermine godking shanks

wraith mantle
#

lmao why is shanks called godking

ashen perch
wraith mantle
#

is it an sbs title or agenda title

hazy turret
#

He would never make shanks come out of an exchange looking the fool

ashen perch
#

Agenda

brittle basin
iron oriole
ashen perch
#

They don't even need to know anyways lol

iron oriole
#

You're hilarious

ashen perch
#

But there's no reason to think that they actually treat the place as special or especially sacred

brittle basin
iron oriole
#

Kid

ashen perch
#

Its the heaven realm because its in the sky

brittle basin
#

ah

ashen perch
#

Literally all there's to it

#

Ten-kai, Ten literally means Sky

brittle basin
#

i assume the heaven realm is like a bureaucracy of old farts stuck in their ways.

ashen perch
#

It's a sky island I think

#

Not confirmed, but seems very likely

brittle basin
#

Urogue.......

wraith mantle
#

urogue has to be waiting in the heaven realm

fast pagoda
formal wagon
#

😭 heaven realm

#

its a canopy that they don't go to

ashen perch
#

Its likely where the elders are

#

Jarul aside

clever idol
#

Elders stay there cuz theyre about to die

#

Theyre on their way up there

brittle basin
#

Loki kills the elders for Ida and Harald's memory. 😈

clever idol
#

And then crowns hajrudin king

#

While he prepares for war

hazy turret
#

If the giants are actually butthurt over it then they’re a bunch of giant COWARDS

#

Sorry

iron oriole
#

"Sorry i shot you, i wasn't aiming for you though... just your friends friends on your shore"

clever idol
#

Theyre not but obviously they'd remember the guy who attacked their friend

#

But like

hazy turret
clever idol
#

I think most wouldnt care given the circumstances

hazy turret
#

Guys let’s be serious PLEASE

#

Elbaf is massive and let’s remember how tiny a human is

prisma idol
hazy turret
#

It wouldn’t have made a scratch on the shores of elbaf

iron oriole
clever idol
#

True

iron oriole
#

???

clever idol
#

But it would have killed some friends

urban lodge
#

Rokaya is saying Kid is WEAK

iron oriole
#

Kid literally pulled up wanting smoke

hazy turret
#

Kid shows up to elbaf, shanks tells him to leave or fight

hazy turret
#

he didn’t go to elbaf looking for shanks

hazy turret
opal gull
#

but then when he does find out Shanks is there, he should have listened to Killer

thick mango
#

man how incredible would it be for demaro kid to show up to final war

#

it cant happen it would be too mean to kid but it would be an incredible choice

opal gull
#

tho Kid has had bad luck with encountering Yonkos lmao

#

Kaido just fell on top of him

#

and then Shanks just popped out of nowhere

#

Guy is always ready to throw hands

thick mango
#

well he coulda backed off right he had that conversation with killer

opal gull
#

yeah

#

but then

thick mango
#

he may not have sought out the fight but he did choose it

opal gull
#

he himself says you shouldnt be in New World, if you arent prepared to die

thick mango
#

yeah but i guess i would say that this one is kinda just par for the course if you want to be this far down the difficult path

#

there was high power hostility at every destination it wasnt especially unlucky to encounter some

keen falcon
#

I wonder why Imu refused to answer Cobra on this when he was just going to kill Cobra anyways

trim lily
#

you can kinda reflect that reasoning the other way too, why bother telling him when you’re just going to kill him anyway

ruby moat
#

Imu is TWO people

#

One of them is the shadowy blob and the other is the chad we’ve had in recent chapters

brittle basin
#

Imu is ONE HUNDRED people
or rather one hundred tontattas

ruby moat
#

They are separate people

ruby moat
#

Lets be realistic here atleast 🙄

#

Anyways, the shadowy blob is a lady and the current one on elbaf is a dude and they’re lovers

#

Sry I didn’t mean to come off as rude it was a joke

keen falcon
ruby moat
#

Imu can still be female and here’s how:

trim lily
trim lily
#

the full demon is a woman, blob is non binary and the elbaf one is a man

ruby moat
#

Which is the third

brittle basin
ruby moat
#

Ohh

ruby moat
trim lily
#

yeah

ruby moat
#

I see

brittle basin
#

So you want the big one to be a lady? nice.

ruby moat
#

Yea that makes sense

ruby moat
#

But…

ashen rose
brittle basin
#

was it when he was on kamabakka?

ashen rose
#

Yes

brittle basin
#

i don't remember honestly

ashen rose
#

The big head one

brittle basin
#

wait you mean ivankov?

ashen rose
#

Looks like wario

ashen rose
#

She could do it, I think

brittle basin
#

Ah I thought you meant one of the many people chasing him on the island lol

ionic palm
#

was it charlotte?

brittle basin
#

But yeah Ivankov could totally do it

ionic palm
#

oh wait, I misremembered the name

I think he's referring to Caroline or Tibany

brittle basin
#

i forgot oda named them

ashen rose
#

There's too many characters

brittle basin
#

TRUE

ionic palm
ashen rose
#

Either that or my brain just can't remember all of them

brittle basin
#

kill them all imu

ashen rose
ashen rose
ionic palm
#

just note that Tibany was the main one to make him into one of them :p

ashen rose
#

Forgot about that, peeked into his crotch and all that

brittle basin
#

Tibany is such an odd name. Was it Oda trying to be funny with Tiffany?

ashen rose
#

(what did oda mean by this)

barren depot
#

me and oda had no plans for tiffany’s name whatsoever but good suspicion

brittle basin
#

tell me your secrets editor

ionic palm
#

tibany was named Elizabeth in the anime funny enough lulz

brittle basin
#

that's interesting

ashen rose
#

Ig the name was just too weird for it

brittle basin
#

Tibany doesn't roll of the tongue for me as smoothly as Tiffany. But I also grew up only knowing Tiffany lol

ashen rose
#

No way tibany is an actual name

grand flower
#

I hunger

brittle basin
#

🍖

ashen rose
#

🍅

ashen perch
#

We gotta put an end to One Piece fans once and for all I think

#

People like this guy ruin legitimate theories for people

brittle basin
#

second time i've seen that theory this weekend

ashen perch
#

Literally no connection here

#

The sword makes sense but the title?

ruby moat
brittle basin
ruby moat
#

And also the chapters end in a 1 !!!

ashen perch
#

Its called artistic pride, you wouldn't get it

ashen perch
brittle basin
#

i know i'm just trying to get into the mindset of tinfoil connections

#

tinfoil tends to see connections where there are none

ashen perch
#

Here's a better connection

trim lily
#

is that what oda thinks canadians wear

opal gull
ashen perch
#

The chapter where Doflamingo gets defeated, where he launches his final attack: 16 (Imu) Holy Bullets

brittle basin
stone terrace
#

Its cold up in the north eh

trim lily
#

oda would be awesome at doing character design for a punch out game

ashen perch
#

Heaven represents the Sun, Earth represents the Earth God, the devil

#

It's much simpler than trying to connect it to Luffy v Mihawk

fast pagoda
blazing depot
ashen perch
#

They actually adapted the line in the ep that comes out at the same time, that's funny

fast pagoda
#

I'm convined the average One Piece fan online has an IQ of 20

blazing depot
#

like I can say with a straight face that any OP fan that is a "theorist" hasn't taken an english class above the basic level

ashen perch
#

Lmao

fast pagoda
#

Morj......

blazing depot
#

they say big words like parallels and foreshadowing but can barely describe to you what they actually mean

formal wagon
#

lucci...

ashen perch
#

I said it before him to be clear

#

I've been on the idea for a long long time

blazing depot
#

and i've earned my right to say it! I got a 4 on my AP Lit exam! sucka!

fast pagoda
ashen perch
#

Morj can't take this from me. His video is only a month old

mighty shell
fast pagoda
tidal ice
#

it's ok to be a morj fan arsal

fast pagoda
#

I was referencing that video with Morj saying the legoland segment was foreshadowing Imu

blazing depot
#

i saved on thousands in tuition

mighty shell
#

classic deflection from a 4

ashen perch
#

Yeah I meant that I had that take before him smh

blazing depot
#

ok i got a 5 on ap calc

#

how about that

mighty shell
#

i'm kidding by the way i'm too old for ap scores to matter for me

#

i did minor in english though in college

ashen perch
brittle basin
#

Minors in English
Speaks English already
Curious

trim lily
#

i hate that my only writing experience in university came from writing lab reports and research essays

fast pagoda
#

Morjy san are you here

#

I just wanna talk

trim lily
#

i got none of the literary skills with all of the big words

mighty shell
fast pagoda
#

But you dont need an english degree to become highly literate

#

Just read a lot

formal wagon
hot cairn
opal gull
fast pagoda
#

It reverses your literacy unfortunately

ashen perch
#

You're giving yourself brainrot

trim lily
#

it’s the same effect for the most part

#

you get all of the big words without any of the literacy

formal wagon
#

💀 media literacy

trim lily
#

discord literacy Skull

opal gull
#

do you contribute to the brainrot?

fast pagoda
#

Earth I have a question

opal gull
fast pagoda
#

Do you support murder

formal wagon
#

literate these
-planet earth

opal gull
opal gull
trim lily
ashen perch
mighty shell
trim lily
#

if you cleanse it does that mean you also hold all of it

ashen perch
#

I fight against it

trim lily
#

arsal doesnt practice safe disposal and thus is slowly being poisoned by the slop he hopes to prevent

grand flower
ashen perch
#

LMAO

trim lily
#

that could also be valid

opal gull
trim lily
#

also manga activeness might directly correlate with attractiveness

mighty shell
#

it's definitely up there for most attractive users

#

also off topic is in the conversation

ashen perch
#

Reminds me

hot cairn
clever idol
#

This ur alt?

fast pagoda
ashen perch
#

That's Cunk

clever idol
grand flower
#

Do y’all think Oda will reveal who adam and eves kids got with

trim lily
#

cunk is an arsal alt

clever idol
#

Cunk is ur alt

quiet ice
mighty shell
thick maple
clever idol
ionic palm
#

shame we'll probably never get the full story of what really occurred in the first world

trim lily
#

arsal just posts gemslop

wraith mantle
#

we getting spoilers this week?

ashen perch
ionic palm
clever idol
ashen perch
hot cairn
prisma idol
trim lily
prisma idol
#

😭

clever idol
#

The mural suggests thid story starts with the 1st world which meams it will be included in the lore

trim lily
#

he’s unfortunately set the upper limit too high

ashen perch
#

I'm at like 560k in the server now I believe

ashen perch
#

Oh in also manga, probably?

wraith mantle
#

ok lowkey i am down for no spoilers

fast pagoda
prisma idol
fast pagoda
#

You only like it because its good

opal gull
thick maple
opal gull
#

300k almost

#

😭