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I mean we're just going to be doing both, Blackbeard will be in a similar position as Luffy as they clash over their ideologies while Imu remains the ultimate oppressor that gets down like Enel, Doflamingo, Kaido, Crocodile, Arlong, etc
Im just feels too foreign
im pretty lukeawrm on imu tbh maybe im just being contrarian but if i am i cant distinguish it from genuine feeling
fair
Bb philosophy seems to be branching a different path from imu , especially with this latest chapter
who would win everyone luffy beated so far on 1 team or the straw hats
I feel readers are just more comfortable with BB so they just fall back on him. Imu is new and unknown so they just can't get behind him
Exactly
I am liking Imu more and more
i will probably need the ancient kingdom flashback to really decide how i feel about imu. for now, while cool in a mysterious way, they are just a dude with evil magic with random ass hints about a past. the whole oppress the world stuff not withstanding.
I see this if BB somehow fuses/absorbs IMUs power, if not I think he's not that big of a threat IMO
wait for void century, he will grow on us
His dynamic with joyboy is gonna be really good, I can feel it
It’s not about comfort , it’s just something that’s being noticed , a villain built up alongside Luffy from the beginning that still hasn’t been fully used yet , who is the epitome of what a classic pirate is irl
It’s writing itself
I would agree but pretty much everything in the series tells us that the two fruits he has are just incredibly busted
I felt it was actually in line. In fact. I wouldn't be surprised if Eris got Corrupted and influenced by maki which led to everything with BB
That just BB moreso a rival in the same field tbh, less so THE villain.
So I'm tempted to disagree with that
There's that line again "from the beginning" again comfort
do you see Imu being defeated before getting the OP or after?
cause I feel like you need the OP in order to be able to defeat Imu
as whoever has the OP will change the world and as WB said turn the world upside down. I guess they will decide the fate of the World in a way. So I see BB being defeated before Imu cause Luffy has to get the OP first.
BB is being built up to stand between him and One Piece, Imu is being built up as the creator and the ultimate oppressor of the world. The scales are different
I mean shanks literally said he's a threat
you can definitely blame Oda for this of course. he cooooould've fleshed out BB a bit more. We truly do only get him on rare occassions. We'll probably get more Imu panel time in Elbaf than BB got in the whole series lol
That could be interesting , but the thing about bb is his goals and motivations are still mostly unknown , at this stage we know more about Imu’s goals and motivations , tho not the complete picture yet of course
And he's the analog to roger
We find the One Piece and THEN we enter the final arc / saga of the series
eh thats pretty unlikely
Whether it be Marineford 2 or whatever
It all depends if he goes the route of the "rival" so he's the 2nd to last match for Luffy before dealing with the WG, or he becomes the villain and somehow surpasses IMUs as a threat to the world
yeah i know i'm just exaggerating for effect
I’m still torn on this , idk what Oda was thinking in that interview
They're pretty clear to me, not sure why you think they're unknown
Davy jones thing is currently insane levels of ammo
it's to suggest, we simply don't get a lot of BB, a major major villian in a 1200 chapter long manga relatively speaking
I don't know how good he would be a writing those
I dunno, I mean yeah we dont know his endgame after his dream is achieved but we do know what the dream is
the OP i guess changes the world. i guess it has to change before the war? whatever that means
Thing is when teach moves the plot advances to ridiculous levels
He might need the visual medium
this is what I somewhat believe as well, but how can BB still be the final villain after the OP is found for Final War?
The reasons for his goals are not clear , it could be revenge for rocks but we don’t know that at all , You’d have to be assuming , it could be revenge for the entire Davy clan, I doubt you know any of this for a fact , none of us do
I'm honestly glad that even 1100+ chapters in I'm still not sure which is the biggest threat
Teach's goal is the throne the op is a stepping stool
Id kinda like it if oda wrote like 15 chapters at once in a volume and released that
Seems pretty clear
Oda’s interview said the series ends when op is found
its pretty simple, the OP being found does not equal the OP being used
That happens when anybody moves. Everyone has a part to play
I’m still trying to make sense of that
ah i forgot about this. shit
same
maybe he changed his mind lol
We don't even know what the one piece is
Oda has changed his mind many times, I think that might be up in the air
he also said in that interview that OP was ending in 3 years
i'd prefer OP would be monthly at this height.. but i know weekly sells more
not on the final saga and the ending.
No monthly thank you very much
"Nami boobed down the stairs boobily"
more done with care
I blame Oda for it yeah because I believe it’s fully intentional , not accidental fuck up Oda character progression , he’s only carefully slowly unraveling bits and pieces of bb as we go along , ever since chapter 200whatever
We have no idea what davy's promise is
little paper note saying
Todo: Place treasure here
-joyboy
Rocks died before he said anything more on it
The only one that would know is maybe imu if he heard it and eris who was likely told rock's plan
I like to think about the average reader. It's probably easy to go "damn, I haven't seen BB in forever. what did he do last time?"
Yeah , exactly , there’s so many unknowns as to what made BB begin all of his goals and shit
Meanwhile we are starting to see a rough outline of Imu’s
I think Oda and his right hand editor have said that OP will end "soon" like... 7-9 times? They've changed a lot of things if you ask me
What this doesnt say is that the story will end at Laugh Tale, it only says that the story wraps up when the big story of what the One Piece is wraps up. This is not something that has to be resolved by Laugh Tale, if the One Piece for example is something to be utilised at the Red Line in Marie Geoise in Pangaea Castle to reveal its full truth.
We still have no idea what the relationship between imu and davy was
so you guys are more inclined for BB as the final villain? Even if the fight for the One Piece is before final war?
Outside of some lasting hatred for 800 years
dunno, i feel it'd do better to the work..
Like I said stepping stone
I dont think those were ever meant to be serious, given Oda's last statement about it lol
just a marketing tactic
When talking about joyboy and imu , I believe Davy jones is just as vital to that whole formula , but I agree
I don’t like waiting
There was some kind of quadratic relationship between Davy , joyboy , imu , lily at the very least
We are getting more on joyboy, I imagine if teach makes any big moves. Imu is gonna ramble about davy jones.
Any avenue that BB takes, I assure you I've already thought of. Him wanting revenge or not caring at all. Him doing a high stakes plan to take over or just being oppertunistic. What is clear is that he's selfish and he wants power for himself for whatever reason. If he does become final villain. I'll be very disappointed, probably finish the series because I've invested all this time, but I won't be half as interested as I am now.
He is the perfect Rival for Luffy for the One Piece specially with all the parallels he has with him. But I see him being stopped right before getting the OP. Thats where his story ends and Luffy gets the win in the race for the OP
Then as we know the one with the OP can change the balance of the world and so on. Luffy will portray freedom and Imu is the opposite of that. So Imu vs Luffy will be the last fight
the more wait, the better the prize
lymbic system
I can see that yeah
I'm cool with either direction Oda goes. I originally thought BB's fight against Luffy would be for the OP and that Imu would be for the world. But the Rocks flashback and BB's desire for "the world" (i.e. Imu is the world) changed what I think Oda is going to do. For now, I'm assuming BB will kill Imu, usurp the throne, and become the final battle.
This fandom is really hung up on the title of final villain for two characters that are being dealt with last anyways
The world spread sealed that for me
I'm not a fan of the BB killing Imu theories, it sounds very boring
Also imu showing his abilities like this is not a good sign
Joy Boy - IMU - Davy
Luffy - IMU - BB
Or Luffy - Sabo - Ace? (I know the last one is a stretch, but the 3 brothers theory has some potential)
Oda still hasnt explained how teach has 2 fruits
The best time to do that is when he does it again
Bb’s moves during and after this arc grow more and more interesting to find out about even due to the nature of this arc itself , the more I find out about imu and joyboy the more interested in Davy and Bb I become
Execution is what ultimately matters. I trust Oda to take a boring concept and make it interesting. Granted, he could also screw the whole thing up.
Oda still hasnt explained how Imu has the ability to give out 7 different Devil Fruits (atleast)
I think Eris knew parts but probably not all, especially from what we've seen from Teach. I think Rocks knew at least all he could know, but himself also didn't know everything. The only one who does currently isn't telling
If people think teach is dying before that becomes a massive reveal 😭
Imu is more mysterious than BB, lets not play this game
lmfao 😭 that aspect of one piece would be insane in text
You guys think anyone will genuinely find the One Piece submarine
While coughing... blood/Maki
For me it was when Rocks said he would return. I thought it was Oda using Rocks as a mouthpiece for the reader to say "ok, this line is important. i'm not trying to be subtle about it either."
Inb4 imu was offered to be a D
Or could’ve been if things had been different
I'd hope not but it'd genuinely be hilarious if it is
Inb4 the narrator starts yammering about what allows teach to have multiple fruits as he takes imu's fruit
Yea, Imu is pretty much more mysterious by definintion. It's like an objective fact.
yeah
BB
Imu is more mysterious, but I think it might be BB. Either is good though.
Imu being here on Elbaph doesnt mean nothing bad
Imu has a ton of mysteries about him that are only now beginning to be explored, that's what fascinates me so much about him
Imu got jealous of joyboy and made his own “D” by way of omen pacts, a more superficial and literal way of expressing pacts
it could be a chance for Imu to meet Luffy before the final battle
I think Davy went rogue, killed Joy Boy or made something horrible happen and IMU went berserk on him swearing to stop all freedom
Davy killing joyboy ?
I wonder how little Luffy will care about Imu besides "you oppress people, i must stop you."
it can go either way but i would be more happy with blackbeard
can't decide tbh, both are great 😭
You making it sound more and more possible that imu could’ve had D too 
true
One is an imposition that makes you lose control, the other makes you part of something that helps and nurtures you if you need it
Oda could go either way and it would work
Evil Shanks lives on
shanks is due for a conflict with bb that he might not make it out of
Imposition that makes you lose control but goes you power but also makes you belong part of a group
D does it without force
It’s gonna be glorious when this manga ends with shanks alive
I look forward to it
I find Imu more mysterious by far. I can see BB being the final villain, but I really enjoy Imu far more as a character, so I've been pulling for him as final villain almost since he was introduced.
I believe D. Is basically a way of calling yourself, it started as a signal that you were part of the civilization in laughtale 800 years ago, similar to joining a crew
it wont end with him alive
I want to know more about Imu he is interesting.
but BB wont be the one killing him
Honestly I'm kinda glad Im didn't just dog walk everyone on Elbaf
Him getting hurt by Loki + Ragnir is cool
Yeah, I really want to know more about Imu atm, as for BB that sense of mystery has dulled a bit after so long
Though I'm ready to eat my words when he pulls out the super evil Devil Bajrang Gun next chapter
But once he gets the "sun" /mother flame
People thought Oda would massively power cliff his story for no reason
cook
Gear 5’s match was Kizaru
If Imu is kept at bay somewhat easily, then I'm 100% confident BB is the final villain.
how about a compromise, imu can win in a convincing fashion but to get that we also need to have a skip of a few hours so we dont have to trudge through all the punching
Oda's doing a good job in balancing both Loki hype and Imu hype atm
no no I want to see the fighting. I've waited a long time for this
Wonder if we'll ever see Ragnirs hyrid form
A combo attack from Loki and Ragnir together would be sick
Imu not having a great display at Elbaf and still being the final villain may only work if they have to fight him again at Marijoa where he may not have to worry about any weakness/time limit.
Imu is already having a great display
yeah if that happens then BB is Final Villain
but yeah I am hoping that doesnt happen, I mean it shouldnt tbh
Loki is probably the strongest or second strongest pirate in the world
OR hear me out. He absorbs all god knights and elders in the end and becomes much stronger again
And imu is handling him without much trouble
isnt this the hybrid?
That will definitely be the case, this all works cause Imu is weakened. (I don't wanna use the word nerfed 😭 )

Forgot about this
Wanted it to be something like Lassoo the Gun-Dog's Hybrid form
I think it was more of argument of ideologies. Like the Dark and Light side of the force, Democracy vs Autocracy, submission vs dominion. I think there may have been an innocent time where Imu and Joyboy (maybe both princes of their perspective kingdoms) were able to get along, but then at some point, things took a turn and one became king and had a different outlook and everything went bad.
I think Davy, because of how his name is known even less than either of these 2, he might have been an enemy the two fought together at some point.
im so excited for lokis hybrid
if it's anything like kaido, sick
Something like this
Nerfedmu
i believe he was on all fours
Imu was mentally nerfed this chapter
Mr. 4s beloved gun
man
Compromise: we get to see Imu literally eat them
mm
i wish
G5 maybe showing up next chapter (in two weeks). Maybe at the end?
Im has to convincingly beat G5 Luffy, and then maybe suffer the consequences of the time limit
I love how silly Imu's abilities are, its gonna make for a perfect match with Gear 5
yea I think luffy will save loki
I'm so hyped for it
also only 4 chapters more until we get the name of ancient kingdom
I think there's a reason Biblo still hasn't shown and the books got moved, and it wasn't just because of the fire. I still think something really bad is going to happen to Elbaph, though if that is Imu or Loki, I don't know.
D-Landia
wani land
I'm also concerned as to what Killy and Sommers are doing
second half of elbaf soon?
You think them silly?
yea wonder how powered up they will be
Zoro and Sanjis opponents for this arc probably
shanks is so loved, that if the author plans to kill him, we have a backup
Or maybe the straw hats team up on them
Nah, I think Elbaph just ends on a downer
Gunko is probably walking around by now
I don't think we have a lot of time left
the name is Romance Dawn
oh ok. RIP heaven realm.
did we actually see her break out?
lol
I think Zoro and Sanji are out right now, and they're obeying orders of some kind
Shammy dies instead of Shanks
Ragnir's ice is supposed to be undestroyable
its what we know as of now
I don't think he would just shoot that thing and keep moving if it didn't work
with the confidence imu just blew the ice
we didn't see it though
and i think that's with purpose
it convinced me that the ice will break
Exactly yeah
That's the thing, you don't need to. Oda wouldn't have done it without a reason. And it's not just to show the block still standing there
Would be kinda funny if he just blew it up and then left it alone
we will see
Without even back checking
he's on a time limit, remember
he doesn't double check
that doesn't go against what i said
Fuck shit up on Elbaf
And then fight Luffy / Loki
I just cannot imagine we see Im specifically blow up the massive ice block just for Gunko to stay the exact same
Just feels like a needless Ragnir upscale if that's the case
Especially when we already have the Galleila giants back in PH
Fucking Oda. There's gonna be a squirrel in the final showdown.
!pfp @brittle basin
Here is @brittle basin's avatar.
Top 10 in the verse btw
Luffys joining after next chapter
Hilarious that I'm not even joking
after Loki gets his ass kicked
yea i get you but with the backstory of the giants im having some doubts, that's all
It's time for Yamato to fade into obscurity
Kind of funny we're watching a Squirrel in the hands of a giant face down what is more or less the Satan of the story lol
What other reason could there be for them freezing for hundreds if not thousands of years
Kinda funny how many recent allies we have with ice powers
First it was Yamato
yamato, ragnir
kuzan
nah u misunderstood me, i meant. they can't be freed unless ragnir does it himself. so that's why im having doubts Imu freed her.
monet
Can't even blame him ice is cool as hell
did kaido use ice? or only wind and fire
I assumed "freed" just meant if they're left alone, not when the ice block is just destroyed by an outside party
What if Gunko regains her memories when she sees Brooks corpse and attacks Imu? Telling everyone that she knows about the weakness Xebec back then uncovered and then they defeat Imu? Blackbeard final villain would be guaranteed!!!
I think the point is that Imu is more powerful than Ragnir so even if that was what Loki believes, he's getting a lesson today in power
Lame and cringe
Imagine WG falls this arc..
If that happens Gunko is genuinely not leaving alive
Im reorders his priorities to see her eviscerated like he did with Saturn
Even if it is my perfect theory, I'd hate it.
Even if it means taking a big hit from Loki
man this break sucks
Considering she can't disobey him, that would kind of hard
it looks like they're both knocked out
I think her body cant disobey him iirc harald could talk while killing his comrades
surprisingly
Not for long obviously
Sanji getting ragdolled by Imu's haki was very funny
Sanji is just super tough with his exo skeleton and Zoro seemed to still be conscious last chapter
Does that really sound like Gunko though?
Chopper talks to him directly telling him to go inside
No I wouldn't like that outcome but everything possible wjth Oda
Also yeah I doubt Gunko has been brainwashed all her life
She seemed perfect lucid back in God Valley
yes invest in Chopper
Sanji highkey got it way worse than Zoro
She very clearly was Youss
Chopper will be the all purpose medicine
Am I misremembering something?
It was kinda up in the air of what that really meant. If Zoro was really concious he would go to Luffy's side and follow Imu even if he was beat the crap
All her old memories have been suppressed
Ah fair enough
It doesn't have to be a constant thing
Been a bit
The little flashback we had of her had her crying for her father and being jolly with brook. Imu probably brainwashed her after he kidnapped her
Why her though. Gunko flashback gonn go crazy
wait what does that mean?
We actually don't know that. We don't even know if she's been brainwashed at all
Isn't it pretty obvious
Not particularly
Imu even says "your memories are returning"
Probably but not certain.
oh it's the guys name smh
She has been mind controlled by Imu since childhood. But it's a kind of mind control where Gunko is free to do what they want but Imu can directly control them at any time. But also I bet Imu has parameters set in Gunko's mind where if she goes outside the rules Imu has set in her mind, something triggers in his powers and he recontrols her.
Dude was having the time of his life for like an hour or two
We could say that about Sabo 2 years ago

It’s certain for sure. Her memories have changed and it’s clear Oda is setting up a misunderstanding between her and brook. Likely manipulated and brainwashed
Been supressed*
Can’t spell
Oda even set up that Imu can literally turn your very thoughts evil
We haven't seen actual Im use Domi Reversi yet right?
in his trinity of dominion, corruption and covenant both play a big role when it comes to characterising Gunko
Nope
clear as freshly windexed glass. the second Brook talked shit about her you just knew there was a misunderstanding
Weird
Just possessionmu
Her memories didn't change, she just didn't have any of that time
Reversid Hajrudin would be crazy strong
i would agree that Imu corrupted Gunko definitely
It's possible, but nothing is certain
I corrected it to suppressed
not until Chopper cures the corruption just watch
Gunko is a combination of mind control and brainwashing and they compliment each other
That's effectively the same thing
Pls no haj
Rlly wanna know where hajrudins character is going
I could see that Omen is seen as an illness and that's why Chopper can cure it
If you were to lock away someone’s memories and raise them in that type of environment they’d become a shit person
Surely it's not yet another mythical Zoan right
he did say he'd become the all purpose medicine
Deal with the devil, shit Loki said it best really making it look like we about to get a flash back of joyboy eating the sun nika fruit & imu eating whatever devil power he has
For someone set up to potentiallt unite all giants ge doesnt feel as important as he should
man i had enough of it too but with Chopper it's been soooo obvious
Ehhhh
I will take any explanation that's not this
For the most part it's been working like a regular devil fruit
Not to mention Imu can literally just turn on a switch that makes you evil like he did with Harald
Not really. I can also see Gunko having amnesia either through an accident or trauma. She is brought to the holy land where she already had connections and then Imu takes notice of her and takes her in. She still has no memories but he cares for her regardless
I mean it’s against imu he quite literally cooked these boys. Least Loki got a hit in & still fighting
I think his journey will come with truly reconciling with Loki, and his arc and journey to unite giant king starts here. As a king with Loki
Hajrudin is the older brother right?
Yes
We're not redoing Sabo all over again
That only happens if your resist, he doesn't do it all the time
Not rlly talking about thus specifiv confrontation but rather this entire arc
well mostly we never had a correct reveal for him with a model and all, every other human-human fruit has turned to something great or mythical for now like Buddha and Nika i could be forgetting some here
He's so tiny in comparison 
Oda's used Amnesia more than once already
then there was that SBS i forgot the answer but the question where someone asked Oda what would happen if a human ate Choppers fruit let me get that rq
The implication from Imu's dialogue indicates he's responsible
Eh I mean Loki has his own personality a big idc personality tbh he’s just like his father when his dad was younger time may change him
Id like it if loki says he should be king tbb
Gaining enlightenment = letting go of your desire for power >> Chopper touching them allows them to achieve this
just look bruh he KNOWS it's not a human human fruit
Sure but im talking about how hajrudin hasnt been given as much panel time and story as his counterpart
Stuff like that usually happens at the end of the arc Albair
When the main conflict is over
He got none of his dads genes
I'm not sure if Oda had Chopper having a special fruit or not that early. If so, he sure was extremely confident that he would make good on that 1000 chapters later lol
Like in Dressrosa
Ida's genes are strong af
Have faith in the Odaster
I think something similar yeah , it’s very possible , still got no idea what it actually stands for tho 
Yea i know
I don't think anything was said to indicate that, more so people's perceptions and interpretation of the words. All he said was "are your memories returning?" and then he go upset at Brook for messing with Gunko. It would be interesting if he was possessive and protective of her and that's why he was saying what he did
I should specify. I want loki to acknowledge hajrudin as the rightful king of elbaph. That would be a nice start tp.Hajrudins goal
I mean Hajrudin the same dude who had difficulty beating a 10 ton fruit user of pure fodder. After being a toy for who knows how long. He ain’t even got the right genes like Loki or the haki… the difference is uncanny
I do think he has to have atleast the power system thought out from the very beginning, haki came in later aswell but I think he had it all thought out with devil fruits
I want haj to step up and shine
Same
Ik he has got it
For now, until he gives an interview, I'm going to assume not everything was 100% fleshed out and he probably changed or updated stuff as the years went on in terms of powers systems.
Like k know the big brother suppose to be stronger but damn they made Loki deviously more powerful 😂
Feels weird hes not given the same treatment
It’ll happen. I think Oda saved hajurdin from a dehabilitating blow for a reason
I think him becoming king of elbaf is an eos thing, but then again Carrots (incompetent for the role) is ruler of Zou so who knows
He was even more malicious than Loki lol
At least Loki always found justifications , meanwhile bro’s foot slipped lmao
Because with devil fruits the lore is always so stupidly crazy whereas with Haki it was always just yk like back then they didn't train conquerers coating, pre timeskip there were like 2 instances of haki and none of the top tiers used haki pre timeskip and all that, haki basically came in later i guess but devil fruits are most likely all thought through from the beginning
Dude 10k tons is a lot btw....and he defeated this guy without haki...
He just might he doesn’t hate his brother he hides his emotions well but he does care
I'm seeing Loki deciding to leave again after this is over, but he tells them to put Hajrudin in charge and that he would make a much better king than him. Which would be huge for Loki considering how he started out
It doesn't contextually make sense to say this to someone who lost their memory in an accident or whatever
maybe he's a caring parental figure to his henchmen
Just wanna say that uh it appears to me carrpt was given the role because she took a similar path as neko and inurashi. They acknowledge she has what it takes. She will grow into it.
Yeah he’s not protective of her wtf 💀
Would be a nice character arc
Possessive more like
Loki ultimately respects his fathers dream and he must know hajrudin has the same goal
he's just caring
How? All he's saying is her memory coming back. I'd say that to a person today who lost their memory in the real world. "Hey, Are you okay? Are your memories coming back or something?"
I don't know how that even crosses your mind tbh lol
Oda is depicting him as evil because he's an unreliable narrator guys
It’s implying suppression by imu , STRONG imply , not really room to interpret it otherwise
I mean I can see this happening by the end of this arc. I want him to get more than this
don't fall for the propaganda
Imu is suppressing their memory through a variation of mind control.
Yeah but considering who his brother & father was… like at that time Luffy, sanji, zoro could’ve bested that red balloon. Even more so now.. like bro your father big Harald in his time he was basically top 3 in the verse imu, rocks, Harald that was HIMMM then Loki second coming of Harald like bro Oda you showed Hajrudin too soon why did you give this man a STACKED family like this😭
Gunko, is this memory coming back?? SUPRESSES like come on lol
Imu's entire character can be defined by the need to control
go back to the owls pet name is biblu
There's room because I'm interepreting it that way. YOU can choose to disagree, but I'm allowed to read it in my own way even if you disagree Earl.
Imu is using Corruption on Gunko
Lol it's only about time he unlocks conqs 😼
You can be wrong then I guess , what I mean is basically confirmed
imu. thematically.
It's kind of a bet...
i feel disappointed from the very depths of my heart
how could you drop the biblu name
Until there's a panel that says "I AM SUPRESSING HER" it has not be confirmed. We are both allowed to be wrong and right. We shall see with time.
This is why my opps gave me this name😔💔
what kind of a story you reading where someone blatantly says stuff like that
We don’t need to be told he’s suppressing her
That's kinda ridiculous
who are your opps
That’s what inference skills are there for
SANJI’S DIABLE JAMBE AT FAN FEST UNIVERSAL STUDIOS HOLLYWOOD 🕒❤️🔥 #ONEPIECE
@cosmic hamlet
Some things don't need to be explicitly said to be clear
bro isn't a sage
That's what "confirmation" means, Earl. Sorry you're just discovering that. Until then, everything is conjecture
He's the incarnation of devil
Will Imu and Joyboy’s flashback be friendship slop?
Yes
nami pfp who joined yesterday
I don’t think imu will ever say that , even if he is for sure suppressing her lmao , that’s just crass writing
It was given by saul
you're stronger than that!!
Things can be confirmed without being said out loud
are we seriously trying to argue Gunko isn't brainwashed and controlled by Imu?
Give an example
You gave him the idea.
Oh did he leave again
Yeah idk lol
That would interesting to see them do in LA
I just told him what you like
We can confirm arsal likes feet without him saying it out loud
Idk, I don't need Oda to tell me "Marcus Mars used conquerors in Egghead" when we can see him using it
tell them
I'm just opening for other options. Maybe he is surpressing her, maybe he isn't. But nothing is confirmed yet, so theories can still be posed
to be able to confirm things without blatantly screaming them into the camera is the sign of a good writer
I don’t need Oda to tell me Marcus Mars is the greatest Gorosei either because that’s just factual.
So do yall think imu can give people coc
They’d be bad ones
Hey I make bad ones too it’s alright
Sure, of course Earl.
u can’t give people haki
You’ll get used to making bad theories
If anyone could it would imu
Joyboy did
Joyboy did
it was a haki knot
Looking forward to it
u cannot make someone a haki user
Still gave it as a gift
u can imbue items with haki
Emeth still used it

I bet imu could
if that was the case every holy knight would have conquerors
They aren’t a deep enough rank to allow it
Then he can only give it to the gorosei
i think it’s impossible to give another living being something like willpower/haki
Limited offer
Imu breaks all logic
Anyway, I'd like to see how Imu and Gunko met and how she was connected to the holy land. Why Imu took her in as a servant but she didn't become a Blade and Knight until much later. The fact that the big level contracts can only be done by freely agreeing to them is interesting. Gunko would have had to agree to each one.
My current idea is that she was at a very low point in her life after what happened with her father, and she made her own deal with the devil as it were.
Imu can hand out devil fruit powers it seems like
nope, I think he's not using it now cause it aint working on Loki and Luffy
Haki is just willpower
devil fruits are still in essence a external power
I think every person has their own levels of haki they come with. Imu's contracts given them other abilities but their haki is their own. And maybe the higher up they go, they can gain maki too?
If the devil wants to dance with you , you better say never
It means will power but it's basically the magic system of the world

we'll probably see it in Brooks flashback
personally i think that Imu wanted the land of whoever the king was
and Gunko was used to gain it
I don't know how much Brook knows.
I don't think Imu wants land
it could've been an important island
But we can still see it in the flashback without Brook knowing
maybe even the origin of the weapon which Imu uses
@lofty fern thoughts on soyjak imu
Even now he doesn't want the land of Elbaph only the people
the one which blew up Lulusia
What is that?
yeah since the giants are the most important part of Elbaph
other islands could've had something else which is more important
like, an ancient weapon
Everyone has just collectively made Imu red
I forgot to mention it but Imu literally took away her name
Also, that hair style looks familiar
He stole her entire identity
Guys
I can't believe that offtopics cam0 guy said something other than gm
Like it was literally a bot
All that guy ever said was good morning
Every single day
That can also happen when one has amnesia. The only reason he knew his name was Sabo was because it was sewn onto his clothes
This is unreal
This can't be happening
Clankers will take over us
Mods do something
MODS
MODSSSS
BRO
Who tf cares about that
Clankers are getting consciousness
It's over for us
Do something mods
Omg that bot replied again
Mythos?
Me waking up with amnesia & "adidas" on my clothes
JESUS STOP THE CLANKER
who's the clanker?
Franky
Check out this TikTok I found! https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8ggUhyQ/
Damn it Usopp
He’d split you down the middle- you know what this fanbase about it like that nvm
You already know what the SBS question is gonna be for Imu now that he changed his size
"Did it grow Oda-san"
lemme check
Bro I'm dying here
lmao Shueisha is after OP leakers
I'm so dead
break next week right because of the Golden Week holiday?
Damn Usopp ragebaited Imu is the new Jinbe defeated Lucci
Just making up stuff lmao
the chapter spelled out why he came and ppl still pushing this gimmick
idk why man😂
Why does kuzan want to grab garps ball
Shueisha sending their ninja’s after our leakers is too funny
leaks might be finished
WE WON
Good, down with leaks
When Japan ramps up the manga crackdowns, you know peak is incoming.
I dont want them to go to jail
Why not?
greatness is coming bro
Buuuuut if they could be motivated to stop thatd be great
this is the final saga
leaking manga is such a nothing crime, just fine them heavily
Teach will bite Imu
Japan skins you alive for this shit
I have a soft heart
now, if they were making money from leaking manga, that's a different topic altogether
Extreme punishment so that its not done again ezpz, give them life
Hopefully no more engagement baiting from WG
Don't worry, someone else will rise up to take their place.
"Was this foreshadowing??!?!"
And then repeat
the moment redon and pew are gone some new mfs will pop up
Y'all might think I'm insane
It's like emulation. It's never been stopped. It never will be stopped without god-like corporate control (and that's not a future you want).
Is this place safe
The craziest part is we still have like 3-5 arcs of this.
no they are gonna come and get u next
Indi and jesus got done by that bot
Ngl though, i'd actually gather all the leakers, make them sign an NDA & then tell them what the OP is just to ruin it for them
leaks finished? let's go
they'd love that
they'd break the nda immediately and screw all of us over
I love one piece anime and manga!
What actually happened with the leaker controversy anyone have a link or summary 😭
They'd be fucking themselves by doing so
I love the manga! The anime tho? Not so much
and they'd leave their mark on history by being the ones who leaked the One Piece. none of us will ever forget that
Wit Piece… save us
they'd just post a bunch of hint gifs
WSJ is on their ass, happens every cpl of years
What they’re doing is already breaking the law though
Imagine not loving the live action
why? You don’t have to read spoilers if you don’t want to
It's the end of the world
it will be mid
since spoilers spread like the fucking plague when they're out
spoilers shouldn’t exist
Thing is, nobody would actually believe them about the OP & Oda would probably just change it
thebpacing might get fixed but the animation will. e utter shit
Clankers will get to us before op ends
why
Oda would change it? What a coward smh
The 65 year olds who don't go on the internet often will freak out when they find out what the One Piece is in 2040.
Wit’s a good studio. And it’s seasonal. You’re tripping.
animation is already looking to be lame
if spoilers didn't spread like a plague, then i probably wouldn't be as much against them
that’s a good point
but it's fucking impossible to avoid at some times
that’s a bad point
lmaoo it might be even longer than that
especially when it's a hype chapter
Tell them shueisha niggas to stay out the way
they haven’t released anything animated tho?
Ngl i've never been unintentionally spoiled for OP
I don't want to see East Blue with whitessop and Nami G sized boobs I'd much rather watch the original
The only thing I knew about op when watching it was ace died
Was about to say, only thing we got are leaked stills + official designs.
yeah
Didn’t Wit get caught using AI recently
the glimpses we got for Wits adaption are wnough to tell me what its gonna look like
that was fake
it’s literally just promotional art
Nami’s chest isn’t blown up like Toei’s in the Wit still’s we’ve gotten, fym 😭
i'm sure Wit will be great, but man i am tired to having the same east blue arcs remade every single time
It’s literally one of the reasons I’m excited for it lmaooo
This doesn’t count
@teal hill u used ur minute message to send ts again😭😭
post time skip arcs are they ones who need a remake…
Since it’s a complete recreation
yeah
Fax
a complete recreation, we'll be dead when it's all done lol
it looked ill fitting regardless. I'm just saying if the promotional art is what the animation will be like im not looking fowards to it.
im dead bro idc about it
Dressrossa needs ts majorly
No patience 
Wtf is happening in manga what is this mod doing lol
also have Wit even said anything about recreating everything
What have i missed
I acc may never get to watch all of the one piece
Democracy
I sincerely doubt the animation will look completely different from the promotional art we got. I'm not getting my hopes up for this
See
Cinema
Honestly?
I would say this:
- Remake Pretimeskip
- Keep FMI remake intact
- Remake everything else (ESPECIALLY Dressrosa and Wano)
Lowkey think you’re hating but to each their own
aluerax👀
did mods fuck up #manga
Keep the pre ts art style
oh boy
its the purge
I agree
I think the one piece looks fire
Y'all don't trust me
I mean everyone is voting to increase the timer lmao
hello
purging bb and shanks fans I hope
Hi
I feel like maul trying to explain ashoka what is actually happening
Btw the left phalange turned out to be missing for real, she was right all along
She was. Then she was silenced, i suppose
5 minute slowmo 🥀
Why isnt there slow in both channels
L
There should be
their loss
The Main Manga chat was conquered by idiots.
how're y'all doing in here
To be fair though, WIT Studio will probably surpass Toei atp because by the time they hit Dressrosa we'll finally see Imu animated 
there is no slowmo here yet
Stfu
Because manga is a hell hole and also manga is occasionally normal
Oh great, there's one of the idiots now.
Because this channel is far less crappy than the other one by a country mile.
so the usual
you shouldn't have said that
we gonna drop u in a barrel of tar if u keep talking
Colonisers
MAKE THIS CHANNEL 5 MINS TOO
We’ll see Imu animated like, next year probably
no
no one here voted for it
I vote
@hot cairn trust me before it's too late
cringe
Discord users when they realise their actions have consequences 
#manga is mad because they asked me to increase the slowmode and then got mad when i increased the slowmode
🥀
I kinda want a Philosophy channel...
Evil
he seems alright man lol
this server does not have the mental capacity for that
Wiki or Worstgen tweets
Fr0n you still going on about this off topic guy?
I saw One piece compared to biblical scripture in depth and story in a similar server
IM NOT CRAZY
Then they should be incapable of voting.
HE IS FOOLING US
a
worstgen tweets ??
OMFGGGG 


Bro said a couple things other than the same 3 words & now he's living rent free
Sadly democracy allows for even the dumbest of fools to get a voice
The Peter Thiel analysis?
Oda could write the book of Psalms but King Solomon could never write Ennies Lobby/Water 7
😔
1 bot gained consciousness today
Tmr they gonna flood this world
nice embed fail
Representative democracy on top
W Skynet
I hate that he knows what one piece is
WCI IS THE BEST ARC
Fr0n how do you know that everyone in here isn't an AI?
Hi cam hows work
roger didnt wanna have to face loki
1 Chapter an Episode roughly, 26 episodes a year:
We're not gonna see it for a solid 3 years, 2 years if we're lucky and Toei blesses us with some faster episodes.
he doesn't
WCI>elbaph
Just leave man
there is no competition
do you think luffy will hit him with the " I will be the king of the pirates "
who wants 5 minute slow mode in this channel too? please react with 🫃
I'm already feeling paranoid Kieran
Yeah we’ll probably see him like, next year, probably. Maybe.
This the new #manga trend or what?
what would you rate Elbaph out of 10
He's a part of WG
6/10 because of cocks
Cam!
Is Marineford safe to skip without missing too much? Trying to catch up quickly
am serious dawg
yea just skip to the latest chapter you wont be missing anything
Except joyboy an imu being friends
yea pretty much
i skipped it when i was trying to catch up
@ashen perch @hot cairn @digital spear @stone tulip @haughty saddle shanks is proud of Luffy for becoming such a great savior capable of anything
Shanks is weary of teach for being such a dangerous man capable of anything
Why would you want to be a discord mod touch some grass
No lmao
Don’t listen to other replies that say yes
I just like leading things.
No arc is safe to skip except skypeia
Don't skip marineford, skip fmi and dressrosa tho
Skipeia
Oni-san is watching
Totally!
You was so close to being correct...
Go lead something important not power tripping over a channel😂
Skip everything up to Elbaf
Why did get a timer 😭
Skip outside on the sidewalk. Maybe in the park too.
Egghead*
No one man should have all that power
Perhaps leading the United States is in order...
Only fake op fans skipped long ring long island
touch grass bro
The clocks ticking I just count the hours
Skip one piece
Ok there's no cool down here
Fuck it just skip th whole manga
Rip
Elbaf is the top 1 arc
People are idiots and so is the admin (however funny the timer is)
Why don't you just wait 10 years & read the last chapter smh
The Intro, the cover, or the whole manga?
Bro i skipped the whole series fuck u talking about
pfp checks out
True, read Kagurabachi instead
You didn't ask me but I'll insert my opinion anyway.
8/10, could be bumped up to a 9.
Intro is a bit boring, the toy intro is cool and all but it was kind of boring.
I don't really care about the school kids (anime might make me though).
Gaban is cool, but he just seems like a Rayleigh 2.0 as a Haki teacher for Luffy.
Robin reunion was sad, anime is going to let it burn harder.
Shit instantly picks up into peak territory post-mural.
Everything till the last panel
Lol bruhh
Don’t read Kagurabachi unless you need poor battle shonen eats
Trueee
Hate
Read Usogui instead also
They'll be disappointed in it anyway when they find out Oda'll never reveal the One Piece.
Middest of the middle mid slop
Why is there a slowmo😭
You have poor taste, I’m sorry
How could you say gaban is a Rayleigh copy. They’re almost opposites in what they value
Love you to death and always
Someone is mad JJK is about to become irrelevant
Idiots voted for it.
Not in here smh
you didn’t like rocks?
Gaban is a Shiki copy
I mean this channel
Sadly... there is.
i skipped
marineford , fishman , dressrosa, whole cake , zou - when i was trying to catch up
nothing wrong in it , trust me
Shiki is DEAD
We never voted for it in here
There is something seriously wrong with you
I hope Shanks doesnt view Luffy as a hero tbh
hi lol
who likes him , he is a terrorist
Idc about below mid slop
That’s actually not even true lol
Oh okay good , read Usogui
I'm sure a bunch of people won't be happy even if he does reveal what it is
Idc about below mid slop
Read one punch man true king of all
Mike Brown..
Bruhh snodlop
Which team did he coach?
Bro just casually skipped the best villain in the entire series + 3 of the craziest lore arcs.
Who put a 5 sec cooldown here!?
Luffy
I love Gaban, I think he’s very different from Rayleigh. I have the arc as an 8 too. Depends on how it ends could be a 9 or a 10.
Bum
literally
Excuse me I didn’t know your taste was so refined
Sigh fine, read kosaku shima
The only 10/10 arc for me personally is Enies Lobby.
I can’t gatekeep anymore
Same one who put it at 5 minutes in the other room.
Peak
Now we’re talkin
I won't gatekeep anymore. Berserk best manga
No one voted for a timer here so at least the admin abuse is getting worse!!!
"I won't gatekeep"
inserts an opinion even Oda himself would probably agree on
It’s 0 for me
I can agree with that, what are your top 5 arcs?
They might as well be the Celestial Dragons
That might drive a wedge between them. With what happened to Barto, yall think we heading to antagonist shanks?
i also thought of skipping wano
There are so many 10/10 arcs in one piece lmfao
Nah
I hope so
Wano could be a 10 but its about 100 chapters too long
WHOLE CAKE ISLANDDDDD 😡
Thank god there's a second manga chat
They should make a college course all about how luffy would react to bartolomeo getting blown up by shanks
Would love to see luffy demolishing shanks and feeding him to the lord of the coast
by a dead beat dad
I am sure Luffy will be mad about Barto but I do not necessarily think it will lead to conflict
That implies photorealistic drawings with color, flawless plot and dialogue, and characters that are as loved and as hated as the author intends to.
I have seen no manga live up to that.
Go on
- Enies Lobby
- Sabaody
- Marineford
- Alabasta
- Impel Down
(Dressorosa would instantly be skyrocketed to 3 if it had better pacing)
It will certainly be the beginning of whatever conflict they do end up having, though, no?
Just read dressrosa
Idk if luffy would even be mad , he never wanted a grand fleet , he didn’t want tht extra responsibility lowkey , but if they’re willing to help him out when time comes he’d take their help
Alabasta saga
Skypiea saga
Water 7 saga
Summit war saga
Dressrosa
Wci
Wano
I’m not sure tbh, the seeds are there but I think the first encounter between them will be wholesome. They can disagree on things later down the line tho. That’s how I see it going down. It would be really interesting if Shanks wants Luffy to go one way because he has to and Luffy actually not fw that because of him doing what he wants.
I don’t see Oda having Luffy glance off something that important to his role as a commodore this close to their relevance being brought back up again, assumedly
It could be part of it yeah, but I think the main conflict will be centred around the One Piece and what kind of era Shanks wants to create
All of those are 10 out of 10? You lost your mind pal
also Barto's a friend before hes a GF member
- WHOLE CAKE ISLAND
- Enies Lobby
- Marineford
- Alabasta
Yes 10/10
Luffy will be mad for just that, it doesnt matter if he doesnt really care about having the GF
nice list. Dressrosa is on my top 5 because I read it in the manga. It’s such a peak arc
they are all friends to him
Alabasta peak
True…luffy would have to feel about shanks something he’s never felt in his life then: hostility , but the way he snapped at loki for talking about shanks , it’s hard for me to picture that right now
Wci is the third worst post timeskip arc
It’s the best one piece arc period
what do you guys think? @ashen perch @runic dock
However here's the thing though.
There is no bad/mid arc to me post-East Blue outside of FMI and LRLL.
Long Ring Long Land took me 5 days to get through because it was just.... so boring.
Skill issue
third worst? Whats your list Caleb
It might be wholesome in the first minute yeah , but I guess I could see the Barto stuff being like the shakky stuff , it’s a fuse to light the fire , but the bigger conflict will revolve around deeper issues
WCI is literally the best
yeah this is more in line with what I am expecting, the Barto thing will come to light a bit later than their reunion and that is when he can ask Shanks to address it
Facts
I feel like the reunion itself will be smiles and giggles
Oda peaked at WCI , like he never had before
yea
Luffy ask shanks who took the shot that destroyed Bartos ship. When he gives the answer, he can tell usopp yo deal with his dad.
Wano
Dressrosa
FMI
Egghead
Wci
Zou
Punk hazard
yea the dark theme , and specially the end game
I think OP doesnt have bad arcs it has 1 mid arc (Syrup Village) the others rank from good -> peak honestly.
I don’t think it will be hostile from Luffy initially. I do think Luffy will stand on business though. There may be an initial hesitation, but I don’t really think Oda will have Luffy try to skirt around a topic of respect for his friends like that just because it’s Shanks. He isn’t that naive anymore. He shouldn’t be.
whole arc had tension
yep exactly
All we can do now is pray they come to their senses.
Having a villain that is not even the main villain because they’re way too strong , and then having that way too strong villain turn into a force of nature that all you can do is avoid , was FUCKING PEAK, SHE ATE THROUGH THE EARTH LIKE A SHARK THROUGH WATER
Bold of you to assume they have that
yeah I don’t think the Barto thing wouldve happened if Oda wasnt going to build up on that for their eventual encounter
literally none of this was my idea why are you blaming me
You enabled them.
You proposed it
Good point
I’m surprised you have WCI so low, I thought you loved that arc because you love BM
Yes, but you could have stopped it.
I know a certain president who speaks like this
I personally disagree, but that's just my subjective opinion.
But yeah Dressrosa is an incredible arc. Doflamingo is easily the best villain we had so far.
if i had stopped it then i would be going against what the people want
absolute peak
5 minute slow mode please
That’s what I see happening
Me too
yeah that’s fair.
I miss Doffy ngl, I wonder if he’ll escape from Impel Down soon
you can experience that for yourself in #manga rn
Slow mode in my also manga??
FMI is extremely overhated but it doesn’t deserve to be that high
I don’t very much care for the vast majority of the Charlotte family and Luffy vs katakuri while cool is probably not even top 3 or 4 Luffy fights for me. Sanji stuff was really good though. Not a bad arc just not close to my favorite
Yes it does
Snodslop on a power trip using the memer's to their advantage
FMI is an amazing arc
I support it if it’s Snod
I loved fishman
Only reason it gets hate is because hody lacks aura
It has great themes and a solid flashback segment , villain isn’t amazing and lowkey forgettable , some other stuff
I think they're also an idiot but it is quite funny
Hody is alright not bad
I think it's inevitable personally.
He'll escape, make some philosophical monologues like Marineford, and then just... sit in the sidelines.
One of Oda’s best thematic arcs
What’s going on?
Happy 39 rokaya
A leader does what's best for the people regardless of the majority opinion.



