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I’m rather mild on the destiny shit but Oda could really get much worse
Take my goats name out yo mouth
It also softens the blow by making it clear that their sulong running out was blind bad luck
it's more carrot slander than peros slander
Her loss to Perospero is not a true faikure
She also had backup
Can't even win 2v1
The series acknowledging she has to grow as a leader is setting up for her to come back and make up for not being able to beat Perospero
carrot and wanda could have won but like
with Joyboy having red hair?
ehhhh
Oh nvm I thought we were being fr
Joyboy looking like Luffy
boring and bad
So I’m in my acceptance phase
lol he looked like inakis version of luffy
We could be
But tbh setting carrot up as a leader feels off cuz its basically cat and dog going "eh we dont want it anymore. We back in wano"
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I don’t see it that way
it's just not good
I just see it as the narrative vehicle to display carrot growing
Jinbe could be cool but I feel he was pushed totally to the sidelines, much worse than any other sh. Carrot at least has more charisma
that is basically what happened
they dumped it off on carrot
for no real reason
Bruh do not start this shit when I’m around this is trigger territory for me 😭 😭
There’s no reason for hope at this stage
When she returns as a competent leader, it completes what’s started
SORRY VAIN
Oda is full thrust into destiny
If you count covers maybe Yamato is more present in the manga than Jinbe
I dont think the story ever indicates carrot wanting or the story planning on carrot being leader tho
It kinda is just "she lost lol"
Years of trauma
Everything is destiny everything is reincarnation

Everything was destined to happen
The most is Pedro being like
"Ya gotta help the straw hat kid"
But that feels less "leader" more individual
carrot slander? 👂
Western fans being mad that Eastern stories heavily feature reincarnation is always so silly
That’s a major aspect of many eastern cultures ans religions like buddism
i never knew this was an issue
Ofc their stories are going to feature it a lot
We should’ve left carrot discussion in general in 2024
this is crazy
Shonen fans are pros at making up fake issues because they have no real media literacy
the goon never ends
People had their delusions exposed but yet still won’t let go
She was never going to join the crew
you dont get it bro the barrel
carrot was robbed
Robbed of what? She was never anything to begin with
exactly
of what?
But yeah I’d much rather have her than Jinbei
Yeah, but One Piece always was about a "nobody" pirate. Luffy's dream and will was what leading him to be the future pirate king. Out of nowhere, since Zou, the whole "sun god" stuff started
Id have pretty much anyone over Jinbei
jinbei hate :(
bellamy?
I don’t hate Jinbei
leave my fedex driver alone
okay, you were cooking until this message

The worst part of carrot discourse is stuff like these where people pretend she wasn’t an enjoyable companion for two arcs/several years before Wano started
But I don’t believe he has any reason to be in the crew
He was a peak strawhat ally
He should’ve stayed as such
Watch MF again
It’s revisionist as hell just because people became invested in spiting the other side in their pointless crewmates war
r u implying the decision of her being leader was sudden?
(my zou memory is poor)
jinbae
It is very sudden
The problem is that people judge the suddenness as a conclusion
yes, that was never her thing
I can't remember exactly but I feel like carrot being leader was never set up at all
That’s because Carrot becoming the leader of Zou is not a conclusion
yes its kinda forced
i dont really care for Yamato but honestly i do still think its kinda dumb she never joined 😭
It’s a mid-point development for her
yeah. she was just some soldier that ran away
Just to say no in the end
Now Yamato it makes more sense to be upset she never joined
Are you saying the final war has room for her conclusion
it's exiling her to do nothing
Cause Oda was very forward about her joining the crew
yamato is the closest lesb character i projected in my mind lol
"surely this makes her fit to be the new leader"
Theres not much left in the story for carrot to do anything other than final war i think
after nami
Either he changed his mind or intentionally misled everyone about her
she was garchu bribed
The stuff about her being leader was to serve two purposes: get her out of the sh journey, make minks return in the future as allies under her command
itd be so unbelievably hilarious if loki joined
Yes. We KNOW this. The Zou allies WILL return to help out, and the story explicitly mentions that carrot has to grow into a proper leader
That, plus the fact that it’s coming off a loss to Perospero, tells us this isn’t her conclusion, this is something her character will show us growth from when she returns
to the point where i actually wanna see it happen
especially since oda will have to nerf him to the ground so he doesn't pass zoro and sanji
the real explanation: oda being fed to make the crew big
The story explicitly laying out that the character has to develop inherently tells us it’s not their conclusion
she is helping train Momo
once Momo is trained she will join the SHs, before Laughtale for sure
luffys gonna get some bullshit upgrade here i feel like
But yeah he is also ridiculously strong 😭
I may be minority cause the character is cool, but I'm 100% against Loki being in the crew
It was definitely bait from the start because Yamato pretty much only interacted with Momo
which is exactly why i think itd be hilarious
where we gonna keep loki on the ship?
I really hope people won’t complain when Loki doesn’t join the crew
He can fly
unbalancedly powerful
she interacted with luffy who is the most important
i'd break the monster trio dynamics
nah they wont its not the same as Oda intentionally making you believe yamatos gonna join
is the latest chapter talked here
Oh yeah and Loki joining just makes the strawhats one sidedly the most powerful yonko crew
I’m not against it per se , but I just think him being Davy back’ed int joining BB is more likely due to the rocks stuff , and bb hasn’t brought up rocks yet but he probably will eventually , so I think that’s when that happens
I think the Yamato “bait” is so derisive because people don’t consider that every single plot twist you ever experience depends on the author baiting you before hand
I cant lie
Why was this necessary
I dont know about this
yes
it's gonna happen
also
oh cool ty
loki 4 sh
I think Loki is the second strongest character right now and Luffy is like 6
i was gonna say half the crew is still lowk fucking useless in combat
Oh yeah a friend of mine had a theory that Imu got Davy Back’ed out of his throne for a point and that’s why he’s so mad about Rocks calling Davy “king”
People will complain either way, doesn't matter if Loki joins or doesn't
loki vs kaido who wins
interesting in see in how Luffy and Imu will interact
Loki wins
"its nika"
loki made imu bleed man fuck kaido
Waiting for the guy who made Yamato towels to make Loki towels
Also waiting for the guy with the strawhat crew tattoos on his back + Yamato to add Loki too
gooooood

Only question is if rocks is even stronger than Kaido
that dragon panel is unbelievably cool
imu is fruit user right
Lmfaooo that could be something , imu and joyboy being chums at one point makes everything so much more interesting , all this could be possible
But Loki nonetheless beats both
Imu's gang signs are great
so bb can null him too
imu doing jutsus
hopefully there is no talk no jutsu
Imu using his AREA ENLARGEMENT
Plot twists serve the purpose of making a story engaging by keeping the audience surprised and on their toes. It’s one of many narrative devices that exist to keep a story from feeling stagnant
Hope that helps
I remember people thought Imu would take no damage and no diff everyone ughh it feels so good to be right
hand signs
Theyre not
Points to anyone who gets it
I hate when yall act like the shs didnt jusr defeat a yonnko crew
Well they’re useless against a logia but logia’s pop up every now and never
Imu, Davy and Joy boy
Only one who’s really useless in combat encounters is Usopp
And theyre all useless against imu except for lufft so now what
The rest of the strawhats are competent.
Except this also isnt true
Imu ofc
Usopp is saved as the card to use when all others cards are used up
He has a function
That’s what it is
Oda forgot about the stink men, and that makes me sad
So let me endeavor to change my words
Ok
True true
They must have so many questions rn
i know nami has zeus and i love robin and chopper as much as the next guy
Who?
but lets be honest
Franky is really strong
Blackbeards crew for example
Lokis stink men
The guys who change Lokis underwear
Hate to be them
Franky can beat some of the titanic captains
Wait whyd i say franky
yeah, that's why their robes stink
Hes apart of the half i actually consider strong as hell
Nami could also. Only one that couldn’t is Usopp.
And the gas masks
They just beat the strongest emperor crew off the muscle
It’s disgusting
Oh, which chapter is this?
Chopper is also strong as hell
I hope they become part of Luffy's fleet
Robin is too
Around his intro
I need robin to learn armament haki NOW
Right after Luffy meets Loki, we learn they lost a fight to shanks and have been here ever since
When Luffy first meets him
or apply it on her df atleast
These might be the kid pirates tbh
It’s too late for Robin to learn it unless we have another timeskip
I will reread
i need to reread elbaf
“Damn dope outfit where’d you get it?”
“Shoveling giant shit”
people who call the strawhats weak always forget this fact lol
i dont remember tthese guys
Fake fan spotted
they suck at sneak attacks
Fandom with the object permanence of toddlers
what do yall think?
You know
💔 
It’s pretty funny people are like “why didnr Robin learn Haki over the timeskio”
Robin has been fighter since she was 7
If Kid comes back before Elbaf ends then I think I could rank Elbaf a top tier arc
Shes damn near 40
isn't she 30?
Why did you expect her to learn it now shes she hasnt over the past 30 years lmao
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Hmmm decent theory but there are 15 eyes there in that picture and I think imu stated only 13 contracts
Oh my bad Robin
Hole in the theory
Cool theory, would help if the guy could count
For some reason. I always think Robin is close to 40
why is it hanging on Kid
franky is 36
I think kid is necessary
yea i think he counted wrong but over the last 800 years maybe he could’ve lost other knights thats a long time period
thigh ur older than franky
but i think it’s unlikely
I know
That might be why
🥹
But as we’re getting later I’m honestly struggling to see where Kid could fit
I thought the perfect timing was post flashback
People asked for Robin fights cause she had none before post-ts (before Wano). We wanted to see the obvious, applying Haki to the created body parts
me too, I used to think he was going to be part of the arc
same
Well if we don’t know where something is in Elbaf it must be in the heaven realm
true
everyone is in the heaven realm
all your disappointments about the arc will be fixed in the heaven realm
Urouge and Enel await in the heaven realm
Heaven realm is the ultimate meet up spot
🦉
yo
Why would robin learn Haki now when she hasnt in the previous 25 years
I think it’s fine that Robin continues to grow despite being one of the “many people who never awaken Haki” that Rayleigh mentioned
Yeah I don't mean it in a derisive way, I'm just saying Oda didn't change his mind last second
imus minion
Oh yeah I wasn’t trying to imply you meant that, just that folks don’t realize bait is a regular aspect of stories cause that’s pretty much how plot twists work
I think people wouldn’t be so reactive to being baited by Yamato if they didn’t let themselves basically get caught up in the dumbest culture war of all time
Maybe cause Luffy obviously needed them all to be stronger in the new world? As clear as it gets
Because Oda and every other author has baited us
Robin's more of a grappler anyway, she doesn't fight in a way that she really needs haki, sure it would be nice for defence but that's kinda whatever
But also it's not her job to be a constant fighter, she has others in her life to fight for her now
And she used Haki against Black Maria, right? Am I wrong?
Nope
She didn't
Just shading
I’ll rephrase my question
Why is Robin lesrning Haki so demanded when we not only know that many people never develop the capability to use Haki, but also shes been growing the past 20+ years without it
Black Maria was a Haki user
Robin beat the shit out of her anyway
I thought she used armament Haki against Black Maria
Nope
op fans want every single character to be a fighter or have strong haki
Pre TS, Luffy broke Ryuo with his bare hands
Robins role is simply to fight the people who Haki isn’t an absolute necessity to beat
She's trolling if she still doesn't know
If there’s an opponent who absolutely needs Haki to beat
Well that’s not robins job
That’s why the monster trio and Jamesbei are here
That should be fine
Not really
Rayleigh told us the vast majority of people in the world simply never become capable of using Haki
It just never happens for them
Weak mentality, they all should evolve their fight skills. They don't need to all become incredible fighters, but they are yonko commanders now
She did evolve her fight skills
Gaban was right calling them out
Her DF usage has gotten better, ans shes learned fishman karate and it’s implied shes learned dragon claw
She easily could have learned the basics from Sabo etc but like i said she doesn't need to, maybe a past Robin given the choice would have learned it but she's now in a place of security, her loyal friends will take out any enemy that she can't beat herself
Haki is NOT the only option
Again, Robin beat a Haki user without it
The people who needed Haki to beat, that’s why robin has her teammates
Robin having Haki just isn’t a necessity
How hung up fans are about it isn’t based on like, any real practical reading of the story
It’s 100% just “I want robin to have it to have it”
I find it weird how often it gets brought up for Robin but i barely see anyone talk about Nami needing haki
I guess it’s because Robin is a melee fighter
she has rage
But she’s been one since she was 7
Shes 32 now and been fighting all across the world
My main problem with Robin not using armament Haki is her df. Her DF asks for haki
Holding your breath on robin using Haki is deadass a personal problem
It doesn’t
What would she even use Haki with? Haki coated lightning?
I mean... she can still hit people with the climatact & shit
I guess, but at this point she’s evolved to be the standard archetype of a spellcaster. A back line fighter with a deep bag but low durability.
shs have cool unique abilities
having haki would be nice but it’s not as big of a deal as people make it
what's the topic
they are still stronger then their opponents without it
For almost all other sh I think it's not needed. Robin, because of her df, is trolling if not making her created body parts stronger
That’s why she learned fishman karate
Robin and Brook should have it
Fishman Karate + haki > fishman karate tho
the frustrating part is that Jinbei is right there, like he could teach her some shit
She can’t keep trying to slap people who can defend themselves with armament haki 
But her main role isn’t to be a fighter so ig it’s fine
Thats what koala and Sabo said lol
I just don’t like the fact Robin could genuinely get cheesed by Logias atp
And I think revos not teaching her is a missed opportunity
But she never would because one of the trio would stop it
2 years training with the revos and no glimpse of haki 
So much so Im not exactly sure how she got stronger without learning haki
There have been times where the monster trio aren’t always there to the rescue
and Brook is a swordman haki is like basic swordman ability
Yeah, I also think it's not that big of a deal. Maybe Oda is saving haki Robin to fight Aokiji in the future. Just a missed opportunity for now
Like in Elbaf, several strawhats got packed before they arrived
half of the strawhats getting easily packed by someone who can be easily defeated by Sanji for example or Zoro who are not even admiral level yet is concerning
and its easy to find a solution
Also another thing as to why Robin should have Haki
training
It literally deals with the “If i damage your sprouted limbs you also get hurt”
Weakness
Last time starwhats got owned they decided to train for two years. Things are sour right now, probably Elbaph will be another reflection point to them
Hell yeah
will mihawk make a soyjak face
Mihawks daddy is imu
do you think mihawkfans will drop
Gaban traning, to learn basic haki for some of the strawhats and to learn to use COC haki properly for Zoro and Sanji
and Franky gets upgraded thanks to Vegapunk
omg fr?
"Mu indeed wieldeth a black blade, yet Mu is but second unto the world’s strongest swordsman, mine own son Mihawk."
Oda just forgot that that was a thing
yeah
has anyone noticed caribou and mihawk kind of look similar
Zunisha and kuina kinda look similar 
many people are saying this
who is zunishas father and mother
I see the resemblance 
wait where is Avery
father was a giant, mother was an elephant
Choppers great great²³ grandma and ryuma
I can’t wait until chopper guard point becomes the perfect block to Imu’s attacks
Horn point chopper rips imu in two

Fur vs black flames 
Chopper is natural predator of imu

What if Chopper slaps the devil out of Imu
gurt
He can already slap the omen out of objects and people
Who knows how far it can go
He could make Imu’s weapon null and void or something
Then with the power of chopper slap imu turns into a good man. Imu and luffy defeats fatass bumbeard and one piece ends with luffy and his wife meat marriage

He marries meat?
Luffy x meat. Luffy loved meat more than anything and anyone

First half was kinda mid but i'm sold on the last bit
luffy would KILL his crew if it meant getting meat
Imu
Chopper is alive cuz luffy feeding him to harvest the best meat

Long investment
Unlike luffy , bb would never do such a thing , he needs his crew members

Bb: with the power of friendship i will defeat you. I swill avenge my titanic captains.
Imu and luffy: look at this fatass. Die.
They clash

Well duh.. you gotta fatten him up first
They just laugh at him
The annoying g5 laugh that pisses him off so much
Exactly
Luffy work is paying off cuz chopper learned guard point. More time. We might see ancient size guard point
When is Chopper gonna be able to use his other forms while in Monster Point smh
Luffy awakening should increase choppers own size , then Luffy can just throw chopper like a basketball into Imu’s dark hoop
She left at some point idk why

Yh honestly i want to see him use his other transformations
Grows antlers on his giant hand
Imu uses omen to cook chopper and they eat at the end
Chopper is unaffected by silly shit like omen
Come on bro reread
Make it believable!
Chopper need to slap. It's not like he have anti properties in his body

anyone else miss lucci
No
✋
🪽
I don’t have hands so I’ll show my feet 🦶
Thats sadge like your name
im monet i dont have hands
@ashen perch
caleb why do you hate mike brown
Because he’s doing a bad job with my favorite basketball team
arsal will enjoy this
Hear me out
Davy Jones ship was Pluton
If Imu represents the Devil and ferries Uranus
Then Davy Jones represent the other figure who’s described as the King of the underworld/hell Plouton, the god of riches (Davy jones the world’s greediest pirate)
Maybe he does tho , on the same merit I doubt it’s all focused on his finger tips

Whatever is going on with him must be thru his whole body
Hmm. Well then scratch the omen cooking. We cook chopper with ifrit jambe
Davy jones had the world’s worst ship
Blackbeard has the world’s worst/evil DF
That works 
I personally think its because of his rumble balls
doctors are proabbly just immune
@ashen perch
Shuron pluton is the whale
Morning, you pieces of crap like One PIece? I know I do!
Davy Jones and Pluton
Brook/Crocus and Laboon
Jonah and the whale
Bro ate theory theory no mi
Ohara ass comment
Davy jones conquered the world with Pluton
Imu conquered the world with Uranus

Ohara is just stealing the theory from better theorists
and then you think its a bad theory because Ohara said it
Hi Varys
what are the names of these better theorists?
Hi Ragnir
so I can watch them directly
YC
No, i think its a bad theory because its a bad theory

You might like Daks Sake
Ohara saying it too just means its extra bad
True, Pluton is a mole
Pluton is a Lion
You know whats a bad theory? Pluton is just a ship and nothing alive
Pluton will be used against Luffy aka Sun
Bringing back the classic Lion vs Sun fight
Idk why so many people say it...
Aura
Pulton has a will of its own
damn hes gonna shred me to tears
you know whats a bad theory? luffy living eos
thats not even that bad lmao
is that why it pulls tons of bitches?
aanother bad theory is that one piece isn't just a dream sequence
Bitches and Pluton come in a pack
because the story says it’s a ship…?
dream sequence?
its not to be taken literally
mailbox hates Luffy
The story is lying
yeah thats when a part of a story, in this case the entirety, takes place in a dream, so its not real.
l*ffy is from the real world and he's just dreaming this stuff
So the OP is not real?
Imu going to tame Nidhog isnt he
he looking at him like it was his pet
peak
peak
peak
luffy had to be stopped after what he did to kings landing
No not again... its too soon
Rocks needed the Galleila because they were the previous ones who built Pluton but they passed the blue prints down and were trapped
If my book was destined for an ending like this, i wouldn’t finish it either 
The Sunny will be Anti Pluton
BB need to steal pluton while franky is in elbaf with vp
wait why'd you take so long to update that one?
Huh
That will trigger franky to build the final battle franky
Loki
Blackbeard could get the actual pluton and make Sanjuan Wolf pilot it like how Oars did Thriller Bark
He'll just press the on button
Someone has to get it. Imu has one and goofy dont want it
🤣🤣
Accidentally destroys wano
It'll be perfect, BB gonna pull up to Wano like Shanks thought but way later
momo no diffs bb
Davy Jones was the previous king of the world aka the place described as hell
He represents Plouton/Pluto the king of the underworld
Does momo even have any Haki?
BB will wipe the floor with MoMo. Wano will be safe as long as Tama is there
He'll bring Pizzaroll with him so that he can become Wano & open a hole in the wall to drain Old Wano, essentially trapping everyone up there for the most part while he claims Pluton
Maybe , what would be the science behind it? Like the reason a rumble ball could stop black flame or omen
Ulti is like 6 katakuris
But Burgress is like 20 of them
Maybe it’s also to do with his personality? Like he doesn’t desire power at all, only helping people
Immovable Object vs the Strongest Force
Idk i'm not a scientist but idt its just the fruit, some special chemical inside the rumble balls or whatever
What if this is joyboy
Who tf is that
We all would do the same if we were in Imus shoes
Tbf it was all over a goth mommy latina
Fuckboy ≠ joyboy
Well yeah lol not saying you gotta come up with a real equation but like some thread of logic , maybe his rumble balls are made with hope and love idk something like that lol
Love balls
Bro is larping
Bro hasn’t even opened a volume to read
His larping is directly affecting our community in the TCG department though
Oh yeah I know that….
lmaooo
Rumble
Up
Means
Beats
Like
Everything
Better
Against
Living
Legends
idk these people never stop, lets see
Hey, whatever you gotta do I guess
I highly doubt that
Where is that thighs edited imu pic
Damn how bad you want him to get arrested?
There's always more than one way to skin a cat
Please, he'll be fine.
That’s what the cops saying too
He's been doing this for so long even if they came for him he'd still finda way out
You think he’s Jason Bourne?
Purfevt
There will always be leakers as long as the series continues
Oda won’t go digital so it’ll be here forever
I was really surprised when he said this word for word in the chapter
I haven't even been in the community that long and this is like the 5th "cops/arrest" leaker scare I've been through
its Jump's fault, even if Oda draws digitally, if they dont move manga to digital, nothing is changing
Who do you think is claiming it?
I liked a few Imu fan posts on Twitter and my TL has turned into heaven now
Joyboy was jealous that he couldn't be that hot
Eventually something’s gotta give , and if replacements come around they’re always low quality
This shit is abysmal lately I’d rather never get spoilers anymore despite being addicted to them
Force me to go cold turkey
I’m fine with not doing all digital even if that means we have crummy spoilers. I just like that some writers like Oda are old school
Just don't look, its easy
So the next spoilers will talk about imu's descendants
He will namedrop mihawk

well it would be less work for Oda which is good for his heatlh but Oda would hate to have less work
Or remove the channel from your list so you dont even see it so you dont get the temptation
Which will probably be headcanon lie from Monday hints
Fantastic
It’s up to me and you to support him
But just saying, what we need is for Shonen Jump itself to cease printing forever. Publish chapters on the Shonen Jump + App like Chainsawman was published.
I think that's because we've added WorstGen as of late, it didn't used to be this way
And then a super angry face because the leakers hard confirm "Joyboy cucked me!"
I wonder how this new graded manga larp is going to affect printed manga
A picture of zoro mihawk ryuma
That would cut a lot of their profit and I think they’re willing to take the bite of it means still keeping print going
Let’s say they get rid of print completely , that could lose them more money than piracy as a whole
Tons of people in Japan still go to stores and buy them physically
Where’s my spoilers
time flies
break week
yeah its unlikely, I understand that Earl
so no more leaks
but its still the best way to deal with spoilers
Time flies
a shonen jump+ manga has never ever been leaked
Wow me and Jesus on the same wavelength
no chapter next week 🙁
Comeback soon
I’m glad for it because I’d be heated getting spoiled on Dandadan
fr
but I can hope atleast
if you hate spoilers just don’t read them fr
If only we had this spoilers drama during the early era of one piece
its not that simple smh
The spoilers will say don krieg beat luffy and sanji at the same time
They leak out all the time you know this
it’s a choice
yall liked the chapter?
If heroin can kill you just stop doing it!
See how silly it sounds
its difficult to avoid spoilers, so I just choose not to avoid them.
Also, I am thinking of like The One Piece reveal
Imus actual design is gonna be funny because why is he wearing a bridal gown or look like he is
Addiction is real
the dream scenario is print manga ceasing to exist by then
Lol wait no you're not addicted to spoilers that's not why it's not a choice
print jump magazines btw, volumes are cool
Yeah. Imu is beating up on the second strongest pirate on the planet
mural is literally a spoiler and everyone read it
It's not a choice cause avoiding spoiler channels is no guarantee of avoiding spoilers
My baby will survive. I look forward to his return
I guess we do have a lot of time till the OP reveal, maybe Jump changes its policies by then
true
one can hope...
Well can’t speak for others , but for me it’s addiction , I don’t go on twitter I can easily avoid spoilers
I honestly think it’s a good chance this happens because of how monumental of an event it is for the industry and how much motion Oda has
it’s not difficult to avoid them, you just don’t want to
it was easy to avoid it when I was kinda disconnected from the fandom
The only way I could get spoiled these days on accident is if someone here in this channel slipped
This week there were spoilers in manga serious what was I supposed to do? Sense it was coming? Unless you mean don't engage with online communities at all
Depending on the hype of the chapter, id get spoiled on the fucking youtube homepage before tcb drops
I do wonder if that even was Imu in the back there, or was Imu simply observing and that was a POV shot 🤔
Also I already miss Killy and Sommers. There was so cute last chapter
but when like 90% of the accounts on Twitter follow spoilers, and atleast on average 30 people spoil it in the server (we deal with them before they are noticed usually), its really hard to avoid it
I’ve gotten spoiled on nearly everything in this arc which is why I read tcb now
What would be actually difficult to avoid is if I wanted to be official only
Then it would be impossible to avoid spoilers lol
Redon, Pew, Worstgen, them going after the big 3 tells me that they are getting serious about it. Lets hope its the start of something permanent.
It's mostly difficult because of how many idiots will post them in here or manga
Yeah Gg 😭 official only’s got it rough
I’ll never forget being spoiled on the mural reveal because some dummy on Instagram made a post about how the mural means that imu can wipe the Naruto verse
LMAO
That tracks to me
as a spoilers reader I cant get spoiled but there were so many people on twitter that werent even like, using tags for Imu's reveal
“Look at this factory!!! Naruto is COOKED!!”
no hashtags, no spoiler tags, nothing at all
💀
I was somehow not spoiled for the actual Imu reveal but I was for Gunkmu
a fucking wrestling account was openly posting about the reveal, and if I was following him without actually reading the spoilers... I'd be so pissed
Though it was pretty obvious we were getting it from how the previous chapter ended and from how full the vc was lol
It wasn't just them though, I've see other random people also get targeted. We'll see how long it lasts
there were atleast 10 people insisting that Imu wasnt actually coming to Elbaf on here, which was really funny
but it was obvious yeah
They could arrest someone every single week and there would still be leaks/spoilers
likely related to it though
Japan does not like you posting images of scanlations
What if domi reversi works on peole not because of the homeland but because of their innate desire. Luffy has no desire to conquer and Loki has seen directly what being an imu follower would lead to. And in combo with their fruits which is also a likely counter
he’ll return soon… as an ally of Sword 
Homeland domi reversi been died
and a scanlation is a leak
Imu explained how it works this chapter
Though still vague on why luffy and loki resists
saw this under Pew's post and I am thinking like, yes it is 😭
Maybe Loki and Luffy hold no envy for strength or a desire to rule
incredible
LOOOL
it was ok
if op was a novel this chapter would be like 2 paragraphs long
Take me away from here
we are actively pirating, but
Isnt this what oda would’ve wanted
We’re like OP pirates guys
We are strawhats
oda is like the WG 
Well Luffy values it too but it’s not something they’re desperate for or doing everything to accumulate. Both this line of reasoning is flawed I will admit. Probably has something to do with their fruits
i feel like it’s almost certainly due to their fruits
the way imu words it makes me think he wanted to test if it was still accurate
So was niddhog imus pet or something.
that’s my headcanon
it’s like the gorosei creatures but it ran away from imu hundreds of years ago
lmaooo
I was gonna say the alternative is the fruits have a pact or something
Plus, Imu says whats the difference between a devil and a god
So, its plausible Nika, the Sun God could be related in nature to a devil through a pact or something
It is a devil fruit after all
i can’t really take imu seriously when he tries to justify himself when he’s using stuff like the power of evil
that’s why I don’t go in twitter when raws are out
It was corrected to power of god smh
I was thinking about that the other day. What if he was waiting for Loki to go into Nidhogg form because he can control the beast if no the man?
evil breeds stability or something like that
power of dog
I thought it was vice versa?
Nope
Guys
I see I see
unfortunately for viz power of evil is infinitely funnier

🦉
oh yeah that new nasa thing
Mmm yeah
FCONSEA
It's so cool
😮
SoyMu
I think the conversation of nature vs. evil is an interesting and potentially important one to have, regarding Imu’s character, especially considering how Faustian the entire scenario is
The devil hides behind a veneer of light.
They fucked up the r yeah
🪱
i have no idea what word that spells 
...
i don’t think imu is even trying in that case lol
fconsea, Dolfius
I'll forgive u bcs u used the nodders dolfi
🐺
can you link it frons
🦊
omen is simply mu military might
🐶
🐴
🕷️
I think that one was corrected, but he's talked about the power of demons and what not even in comparison to that
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🐈
Hmm. hmmm
Lets wait for Imu’s response in two weeks
🐝
mine is cool
🦁
🐣
Gahdamn that R is so beautiful
i tried glorp and it looked awful
🦭
It was definitely power of evil originally, I remember those chapters very clearly because they're still my favorite part of Elbaf
He does in his own way. The idea that the "gods" that are the celestial dragons and that he is the god above them and that he sees no difference between a god and a devil, puts new perspective on the CDs and holy land and such entirely
they are cute, they could return
just a weird g
where is caroo too
G wants to dance
the duck ostrich whatever
last one
oh this is good
why the first is chrono trigger logo?
Why did they fuck up my r tho
I had to try it a couple of times to get it right
Cheater.
just tried pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
Kinda fire
oh oh i can spell it 🙋♀️
Peaay
Mailpox
oh today is stussy’s birthday
I just spelled this
yea
@prisma yacht what are these things u are sharing?
very glad it isn’t only chome i share a birthday with
what*
@warm falcon
Your birthday today?
ye
happy birthday!!!!!!!
happy birthday
ty
Happy birthday to you, stussy and chome ✌️
Is elbaf a top 3 arc of all time already?
oh happy birthday dolf
Happy birthday Dolf
its Abdullah lmao not Adpullar
Who is Chome
It’s عبودي
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
I'm gonna refresh it until I get a really ugly Fronsen
i had aboody as a nick before @wraith mantle
Lol they fucked ur h up
عبودي or عبادي
عبودي
U know
I feel like we can make memes about the first page of the chapter
"The one who suffered the most inconvenience was me"
But some guys kept calling me Abooty
thank you planet earth
so I changed it
Spiritually a strawhat?
happy birthday dolf

Loki really was like "U killed my dad"
Imu: "yeah and I suffered the greatest loss"
Till he dies
mike brown hate account would say that
omedeto tanjouby
noice
Holy moly
Why can’t I read this
Oda still doesn’t have horned people rep in the Strawhats
usolda
The first letter is i shuron
i guess i have to delete my acc now 
yamato is returning any day now surely
Whyyy
i fell
spyyyy
that j is beautiful
xD
it is
@prisma yacht delete it pls
A man’s dream never ends
Yamato...
What is that last s
Yamato and Loki are joining this arc. And vivi
Donedone
You're right Moria should join the strawhats
Imu will join
So pretty
So true actually. Zoro and Moria can work out together to return him to prime shape
Yamacope in 2026
Ireae
you still believe?
Hehehehe

If I had to bet on the return of yamato vs loki joining id choose yamato
Roger = Joy Boy
Rayleigh = Imu
Shakky = Lily
yamato will join and Loki will join and Bellamy will join and Bonney will join and
she literally said
at the end
its time for me to join Luffy and the others
And then didn't
😭😭
time to vote (but not for this bitch!)
What if I told yall my favorite Blackbeards line isn’t his iconic a man’s dream never ends line
for now
Both left letters
in one piece everything characters say happens
yas
nope
Vote alpha and you will get gold
Trust
no lol, look at the quality
Had to do the whole thing
Yamato says it's time to live like Oden did
Unrelated to anything happening rn but I am still unsure why Kuma's fruit works the way it does
Delusional but we love her anyways
That h looks like r
Like I feel Paws shouldn't be able to do all that
Peak
yeah like how do cat paw and bubble transport even match?
if it was some kind of mythical zoan i would get it
Don't even get me started on Ursus Shock
Only move in the series named in reference to the character and not the ability
it’s time @urban lodge
Loki feels more important than Yamato tbh
Any updates from Meek?
oda just be making this shit up smh
for yamato to join luffy and the others
Meek has gone awol
Its like if Moria had a move called Gecko Sword or something
that was bait
Meek has been captured
Meek will be waterboarded soon, have no fear.
i dont think importance equates to liklihood to join crew necessarily
What is up with Meek?
The actual best Blackbeard scene
jesus u liking the potential of the next couple of chapters
Fbi got to him.
oh I thought you meant return in general, not return to join the crew
I love this
ted
Yesterday he had not 0% chances of getting buster called
ted > one piece
All Zoan fruits have a will of their own...
And this one carries the name of a "god".
After all, the Paw-Paw Fruit...
objectively
she will after Momo is strong enough
right before Laughtale
if she doesnt then its simply bad writing or maybe someone paid Oda not to
Meek is an fbi interrogation room rn
They tryna get him to flip on feeso
Gotta say
..........final villian, you say? 
I personally would LOVE if all the leakers get quartered
he had so much work to do and was procrastinating here so he left
I dont think it's happening tbh
Round them all up
throw them all in jail
Oh, that's usual for Meek
Blackbeard actually died here
I'll take the hot one
I was an Im believer at first but I just cannot imagine a world where BB is not the absolute final villain in the series
I don't really care, but I like/respect Redon personally
Bro I would love it if we could get officials only
No more scanlations
an air ballon and a vacuum cleaner
I do yes, I'm really excited to see the route the arc takes. It's still really unpredictable at the moment.
Him and Luffy oppose others so perfectly I just can't imagine it any other way
One piece sundays would go crazy
what made you change your mind?
Officials >>>>> scanlations
imu and BB will both be final villains for different parts of the story
Church Piece
Introspection on Blackbeard
Im is just too different from Luffy
BB for the race to OP
Imu as the Final one
To the point that I can imagine him and BB working together to take Im down
smh choosing Imu over BB is both hot privilege and fat shaming, you hate to see it.
isnt that good for a "final" villain?
He's literally the opposite of Luffy. The more I see him, the more clear it becomes
they are both the opposite of luffy in their own ways
I'd like a final villain to challenge the main character idealogically I feel like
Should have worked out like his dad
Luffy - Freedom vs Imu - Control
a warped version of your own ideals is more challenging than opposite ideals imo
BB feels like he could've been friends with Luffy had things been slightly different
True that’s why I don’t want Imu to just be evil
his dad took ozempic
That makes him more compelling
That's more Imu too. To me Imu is BB's philosophy but given actual solid form and enacted.
I want him to be properly fleshed out, motivations, goals, ideology
Don't get me wrong I think Im is cool too especially after this chapter
we evil


thanks