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cosmic hamlet
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I mean, the argument is about everyone in one piece who is relevant to the story are selfish

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I can not pull panels for each and every character

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😂

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How did you land on her believing? She is just confused

ruby moat
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she is asking what the void century is

prisma idol
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Ch 1114 for the CD thing you were talking about

cosmic hamlet
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@prisma idol ask me why luffy is selfish

cosmic hamlet
ruby moat
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according to your standard for koby she should be saying "how can we trust that vegapunk in the first place"

prisma yacht
cosmic hamlet
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Thats the kind of reaction people give listening to a persons statement whom you didn't meet

cosmic hamlet
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The lack of questioning from koby to validate information is what his sense of justice is flawed

ruby moat
muted hedge
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lmfao

ruby moat
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I should trust information from Albert Einstein and a homeless dude on the street equally

cosmic hamlet
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That from koby pov vegapunk is a stranger whom he didn't meet and doesn't know his personality

ruby moat
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That’s not true

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From Koby pov vegapunk is a world renowned scientist and the smartest man on the world

prisma yacht
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Kono ni wa

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Chisa na

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Umi no

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Dare shiwa

ruby moat
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That alone makes what he says credible

cosmic hamlet
honest garden
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Behold, the only selfless characters in One Piece

maiden saffron
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I'm really not even sure what the point is supposed to be. Coby has no reason to distrust Vegapunk's word.

  1. He's the most well known scientist in the world of one piece.
  2. He's actively rebelling against the government by talking about things deemed forbidden.
  3. The government tried to cut his speech short.

Why would ANYONE distrust his word given all of this?

ruby moat
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Because you need something to go after Koby for

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That’s really what this seems like

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It’s a standard that’s never been held in one piece

maiden saffron
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4th reason is that he starts his speech by saying "im gonna predict some things, if these don't happen, dont listen"

cosmic hamlet
honest garden
cosmic hamlet
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Its dragged for too long

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I will stop

maiden saffron
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I'm honestly surprised it's reached this far

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Lmfao

cosmic hamlet
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Koby discussions are often like that

honest garden
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What else is there to do at work?

maiden saffron
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You're involved in them often are you

cosmic hamlet
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I will now spend my 1 hr working so that i can relax rest of the day

cold steppe
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I bet Oda just wanted to include koby in the race and did not think about anything else 😭

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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that's literally it lol

prisma idol
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Oh wait

maiden saffron
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just needed to have some more marine rep there

ruby moat
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He’s got big plans for him

cosmic hamlet
graceful grove
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All of this would’ve been avoided if it was Smoker instead

maiden saffron
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I think a lot of these characters are gonna get 1 big thing before the story ends

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and Coby is one of them

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Smoker doesn't concern himself with fairytales

ruby moat
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I’ve always liked him but the hachinosu mini arc rly showed that hell have a fairly large part in the story

maiden saffron
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Definitely paints him as the future of the marines

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if nothing else

ruby moat
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Yea

maiden saffron
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but i think there is more for him

ruby moat
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I think him learning about luffys real dream will eventually happen

maiden saffron
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nojiko is so much more like her mother than that orange haired lady

cosmic hamlet
cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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what are you on about dawg

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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yeah

cosmic hamlet
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I'm talking about his power level

ruby moat
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just give him some acoc

cosmic hamlet
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He is no where near the leagues of luffy or others

ruby moat
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conq + acoc unlock like zoro did

maiden saffron
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yeah he's not and I really don't think he will be in the current era

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Coby is one of those characters who reaches his peak after the end of the story

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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in an epilogue or something

ruby moat
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luffy didnt get acoa until wano training

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coby used that shit on hachinosu

maiden saffron
cosmic hamlet
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I don't think its something you can teach easily

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Otherwise why would rayleigh not teach luffy?

maiden saffron
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sure it doesn't need to be easy but Luffy literally did not know it existed

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he figured it out completely on his own

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he's built different

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he's the GOAT

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🐐 i say

ruby moat
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rayleigh only taught him the basics

cosmic hamlet
ruby moat
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he didnt teach him acoa but the old man in prison helped luffy learn it

maiden saffron
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yeah, and he told him that he'll only develop by fighting people who are much stronger than him. It was a deliberate decision because Rayleigh believed he could do it on his own

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its not a matter of oda retconning stuff because adv armament has existed atleast since sabaody

ruby moat
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yea it was cool that one of the first showcases of haki was actually an advanced form

cosmic hamlet
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My point still stands though, advance forms are not that simple to teach

maiden saffron
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yeah they definitely arent

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but still, being taught and learning on your own are gonna be different

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im not even saying someone is gonna teach coby that

cosmic hamlet
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Even koby unlocked ACoA through battle

maiden saffron
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and im not even saying oda should give him advanced conquerors

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but still, If you literally don't know somehting exists, and figure it fully on your own

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you're gonna take longer than someone who was just taught that thing

cosmic hamlet
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😂

maiden saffron
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if its hard to learn when someone teaches you, it's definitely harder to learn on your own

rose rune
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I see acoa, I leave chat

maiden saffron
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hate those terms too

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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i always just write the full one

ruby moat
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adv arm

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that should be the new standard

maiden saffron
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indeed

cosmic hamlet
ruby moat
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holy

hazy turret
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WRONG CHANNEL

celest mauve
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I know imu is the gorosei's leader but it's kind of incredible how much more presence and impact he's had in 2 chapters than all five combined over like 20 chapters

maiden saffron
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I think it was just joyboy 1v5 them from the grave

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otherwise they'd have succeeded

prisma yacht
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Gorosei had a terrifying presence as well

cosmic hamlet
cosmic hamlet
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Not you, i mean the characters inside the manga dickride him excessively

hazy turret
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People start hyping him now that way when he inevitably does something cool, they can cash it in and say they were a day 1

maiden saffron
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Well he is the first pirate, previous known user of the nika fruit, The person responsible for the one piece, Imu and the WG clearly have extensive history with him, was mentioned first in Fishman island, His stored haki in emeth kicked the elders back to mariejois

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I don't think it's excessive

cosmic hamlet
cosmic hamlet
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Just like how wano people dickrided oden excessively

maiden saffron
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He's one of, if not the most important characters in the story

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you using that word again and again is pissing me off though

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Joyboy is extremely important

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so the story hypes him up

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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... why

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Most people dont even know about him

cosmic hamlet
# maiden saffron so the story hypes him up

Hyping is okay but all these guys coming out and saying "I'm sorry joyboy" is getting tiring. If i hear one more person involved in void century and comes out and says "I'm sorry joyboy" i would flip

maiden saffron
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It's very easy to understand why only the WG, or the strongest people who are able to seek out information would be aware of him

maiden saffron
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i dont find it to be a problem at all

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Joyboy lost a 100 year war

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and died

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and his allies (presumably) are still alive

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(well some of them)

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and them saying "im sorry" isn't a big deal lol

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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not really though. You say it's excessive but only 2 characters have talked about joyboy in the way you suggest

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zunesha and emeth

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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absolutely does not give off that vibe

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how are you getting that

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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I think you're thinking too deeply about some of these things. no doubt there's a lot of meaning in their words but at the same time

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it may literally be as simple as "we lost a 100 year war, we fought by your side, we're sorry we couldn't make you win"

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how is that excessive or problematic in any way

cosmic hamlet
umbral raft
cosmic hamlet
cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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simple

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They wish things turned out differently

cosmic hamlet
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This also gives me same vibes where they will mention him needlessly too many times in the final war

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I'm not asking to not mention but there is middle ground between not mentioning and excessive mention

maiden saffron
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do you think it had to do with the following reasons:

  1. He was the most prominent character in the arc.
  2. His son was to be the shogun of wano.
  3. All of the major side characters were his retainers.
  4. He scarred kaido and had history with him.
  5. He sacrified his life so they had a shot against Kaido in the future.
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I don't think it's been excessive at all, feels to me you're just finding issues that don't exist. But you're allowed to have your opinion so I won't criticize it beyond that backhanded comment.

sick dust
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Ceasar>Imu confrimed

dense haven
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any soyjak fans in chat

maiden saffron
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yesss

cosmic hamlet
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Just to keep him relevant

sick dust
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to me it felt like Oda was trying so hard for me to like Oden

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the whole harem and picking fights nonsense feel like something a 14 year old would write about their OC

rustic coral
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or someone based on Japanese folk stories

sick dust
rustic coral
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you sound like a EL fan

maiden saffron
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people criticize and then start doing stuff like this when they're told their criticism is dumb

sick dust
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Enel?

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his name is not that long to be abrivated

cosmic hamlet
rustic coral
maiden saffron
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ay man whats wrong with enies lobby

sick dust
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why did you even abrivate Enis Lobby?

fervent fable
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EOS akainu > prime joyboy

maiden saffron
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so true

cosmic hamlet
sick dust
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that shit ain't long either

dense haven
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imu vs mihawk who wins

rustic coral
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mihawk

maiden saffron
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I don't need to say anything else

cosmic hamlet
rustic coral
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bad

maiden saffron
sick dust
maiden saffron
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oh yeah it was, fully intentional

cosmic hamlet
sick dust
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I can sense it

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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yeah im not gonna seriously interact with a "criticism" that is essentially saying "oda wrote oden like a 14yo writes his oc"

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i dont feel like it's worth my time

cosmic hamlet
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He discussed with me fine

cosmic hamlet
maiden saffron
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yeah i called it dumb

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without trying to reason with you

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while watching a counter-strike video on the side

cosmic hamlet
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Counter strike still relevant?

sick dust
sick dust
maiden saffron
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Absolutely not

cosmic hamlet
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You guys fighting more than arguing about the topic 😐

rustic coral
sick dust
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you can still understand a character and not like them.

sick dust
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Oden isn't not that subtle as a character. in his depication.

cosmic hamlet
sick dust
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I am a garp hater because I understand his complexity.

rustic coral
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To the scabbards and Momo his death was only a few months ago as well, and every event in the current story is smth all of Wano had been waiting for for 20 years based on his prophecy

rustic coral
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the ones we know in depth

cosmic hamlet
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Its like 4 people who went to future other than momo

cosmic hamlet
sick dust
cosmic hamlet
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Only kinemon we know in depth and maybe kiku

sick dust
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outside of zoro I wonder how much content he cut out to make room for oden.

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and the scabbards.

cosmic hamlet
sick dust
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I probably would like wano more if he managed to keep both of these plot points.

digital spear
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Lmao thank you for this ChopperAAAAAA

dense haven
sick dust
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the scabbards are fine for what they are but they do take up a lot of space.

sick dust
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SBS 114

dense haven
sick dust
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there are many things I can suspend belief for in OP but get so angry to the point you get a different face is werid

cosmic hamlet
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So kaido included himself? 😭

rustic coral
# sick dust

Yea thats not what it means, he just didnt know how to fit it in naturally

sick dust
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that's literally what I said

rustic coral
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You said he didnt have the time to reveal it

sick dust
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because he spent that time with the scabbards

ornate tartan
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kaido dead

prisma yacht
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*guys who were relevant to the arc

sick dust
prisma yacht
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So what's even ur point 💀

sick dust
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I asked you a question first

rustic coral
prisma yacht
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Oda says he cldnt find an opening to fit in morias story and ur point to counter this was he spent it writing scabbards

sick dust
prisma yacht
cosmic hamlet
rustic coral
prisma yacht
rustic coral
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If Oda has an opening to smth he will spend time on it no matter what, if he doesn't he doesn't mention it at all

sick dust
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well here's the thing.

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Wano was rushed.

rustic coral
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Sure

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I think it should have focused more on the scabbards, so in that way I agree that it's rushed, but even with the little they got ppl are complaining so I'm fine with the middle ground

sick dust
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it isn't exclusive to the scabbards alone.

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Oda had too many ideas going on that he wanted to include in wano.

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resulting in the bloat that is the onigashima raid to me.

rustic coral
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I loved it tbh

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I just would've liked to see more of Kanjuro

sick dust
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that's fine but I would appericate it more if stuff like Zoro's family tree was in the actual story.

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or at least give Zoro more of a role outside of recieving Enma

sick dust
rustic coral
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I thought it was cathartic

sick dust
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to me he should of died the first time against Kiku.

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That scene felt more powerful to me then his later scenes.

rustic coral
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That scene was nice

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I liked the others too

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achieved different things

noble carbon
sick dust
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to me the later scenes it cheapens the first.

quiet ice
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Break next week

rustic coral
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dont we still get choptir

prisma yacht
prisma yacht
opaque delta
maiden saffron
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Attention > freedom

prisma yacht
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Lmao

maiden saffron
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wtf is this even supposed to mean

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i actually have no idea what im gonna do when one piece ends

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such a crazy concept isnt it

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that one piece will end

cosmic hamlet
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Where they caught some spanish website?

prisma yacht
heady smelt
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What happened to Pewpiece exactly??? His X account is private

stone terrace
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The big dogs are on his ass

cedar garden
heady smelt
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Oh shit

prisma yacht
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We need to save him

cedar garden
heady smelt
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thanks to him for the spoilers throughout all these years, it seems like it's over now

dense haven
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spoilers are GONE

dense haven
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GET FUCKED

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SENT TO THE GULAG

ornate tartan
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spoilers aren’t gone

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they just gonna be more careful

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but they should get purged

cedar garden
dense haven
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feels so bad for spoilerbros, now they gonna have to read the manga like the rest of us 😔

clever idol
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There are other spoilers providers

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We r fine

junior geyser
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spoilers will never go away, only way it would happen is if one piece went full digital

clever idol
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Then we get data leaks

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Online piracy for the pirate manga will end when it ends

heady smelt
warm falcon
prisma yacht
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Take me to Spain with you ,take me away from here

rose rune
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Me gusta

prisma yacht
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Lo siento redon

heady smelt
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Crazy coincidence that when Imu is revealed in the manga and finally starts fighting, the real world is going against the leakers

dense haven
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death to all leakers

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you leak you squeak

warm falcon
# rose rune Spain is nice. I like spain

facts about Spain

  • a multiethnical country
  • multilinguistical, Spanish is just 1 more, and other name for Castilian
  • Roman emperos came from there
  • Flamenco has moroccan and arab and local origins, truly a multiethnical
maiden saffron
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is Captain John Giant the first giant we see in the whole story?

rose rune
warm falcon
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another one: Portuguese was born in Spain too

warm falcon
dense haven
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fun fact about spain: its now weaker than the coutries it conquered

urban lodge
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Beautiful

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I'm so happy we have such an amazing artist between us

rose rune
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You should change your nick to blunko

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How the hell did I fat finger that badly

heady smelt
warm falcon
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challenge to thighbreaker: remember the name of the girl of his pfp without googling

rose rune
heady smelt
warm falcon
prisma yacht
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Porche

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Who can forget porche

rose rune
warm falcon
rose rune
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But I forget names like chapapa because I don't care much for him

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And vivi's rebel loverboy

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Koza

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Now I remember

digital spear
prisma yacht
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:3

ornate tartan
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I can tell that half of this fanbase hasn’t started reading op for more then 5 years and came from JJK

complaining about the Imu yelling panel and saying he lost “aura”. What?😂😂

rose rune
dark nymph
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They wanted him to be stone faced 24/7

ornate tartan
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I cannot believe that something like this can be an issue for people

tidal ice
prisma yacht
rose rune
rose rune
ornate tartan
icy magnet
urban lodge
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Oda even made sure to have Loki say it out loud that Imu is zoning out

rose rune
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I love this shit

maiden saffron
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its impressive how early in the story this line appears

digital spear
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Woop Slap is the real final villain

warm falcon
maiden saffron
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Yes we are gonna have another free will or destiny discussion

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I always expected imu to do goofy stuff like most villains end up doing

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just didnt expect it to be so early

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its hilarious though

rose rune
icy magnet
prisma yacht
warm falcon
balmy field
balmy field
digital spear
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In Yano

prisma yacht
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yano

warm falcon
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wano arc if it was good

cosmic hamlet
balmy field
cosmic hamlet
digital spear
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There will be more goofy scenes but Imu will also make it clear that hes deadly

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Whenever Imu does anything people will switch up accordingly

dark nymph
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so Imu blocked that last attack right?

prisma yacht
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That blast?

digital spear
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Yeah

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or most of it

heady smelt
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Imu really looks like a visual kei singer

dark nymph
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the tree seems completely undamaged but Imu has a little of that OP dirt ™ on him

prisma yacht
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Tanked that shit

digital spear
heady smelt
digital spear
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its in a small bracket at the start of chapters

dark nymph
cosmic hamlet
digital spear
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so maybe thats why Imu looks like it

dark nymph
digital spear
distant vine
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I assumed Imu got knocked back into that mountain

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And just took no damage

heady smelt
distant vine
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Not a block

cosmic hamlet
dark nymph
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I think he makes some interactions vague cause he doesn't wanna lay it all out

prisma yacht
dark nymph
cosmic hamlet
prisma yacht
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This fight started with a good emotional appeal

cosmic hamlet
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I don't care about your interests, he don't know how to draw fight moments to make people understand how fight went

dark nymph
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I think I only remember one instance where it wasn't clear recently, and that was in Egghead with Luffy vs Kizaru

odd rune
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who should i vote for in wt100 today

prisma yacht
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Biblu

cosmic hamlet
dark nymph
pine ridge
heady smelt
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So Imu's omen kinda look like Boo from Mario 😂

dark nymph
prisma yacht
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Thank you

cosmic hamlet
dawn gazelle
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So does Imu really have a black blade?

cosmic hamlet
icy magnet
prisma yacht
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That wld make it black

pine ridge
prisma yacht
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So it's black

icy magnet
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i just want to mention Corruption and Armament, IF Omen (Maki) will be it's own thing it would make Corruption the opposing power to Armament it seems, so my guess is while Armament coats weapons or items with Haki enhancing their stats temporarily Corruption corrupts the weapons as to why they stay black after the procedure, is there anything to contradict this? working on a theory kinda

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here that was my thought on black blades

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going by that Imu obviously has one

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just a theory tho

dark nymph
urban lodge
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The Mihawk upscale never ends

tidal ice
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during one of the hk mini flashbacks, there was a shape that looked similar to mihawk UsoppSus

dawn gazelle
dark nymph
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how is Loki still standing after ts btw

icy magnet
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man these characters really survive these attacks with zero drawbacks whatsoever

dawn gazelle
icy magnet
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bro's blood is clogging his lungs biologically speaking, ain't no df durability doing shit

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i know it's fiction

icy magnet
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it still annoys me that there isn't even a little bit of drawback

cosmic hamlet
prisma yacht
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#Mihawk is imu's son

wraith mantle
dawn gazelle
icy magnet
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someone's child #2

dawn gazelle
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Chopper is going come swinging the next chapters and Imu going to run away 🙌

dense haven
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its so funny seeing this fandom collectively turn into sb

dark nymph
dense haven
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sb hivemind

wraith mantle
urban lodge
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Es Bee

heady smelt
# dark nymph

Those fans are dumbs, it's always been the way Oda draws characters

icy magnet
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people didn't hate Enel for it

dawn gazelle
dense haven
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WOFFY

wraith mantle
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Oda still thinks a soyjak face is funny in 2026

dense haven
icy magnet
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i guess bro

heady smelt
# dawn gazelle Has doflamingo been this goofy?

It's not necessarily about being goofy, Oda draws exaggerated mouths very often, and I'm pretty sure it's possible to find a panel of Doffy where he screams in a similar way, the mouth may be less open though, but we have even seen "glamour" character like Nami do it

dense haven
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nah man imu is finshed

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its over

icy magnet
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people hate on it but it does present the feelings of the moment better than staying realistic

dawn gazelle
wraith mantle
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Just hope he doesn’t over do it

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I don’t want Imu to be a clown like buggy

latent hamlet
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This is only being brought up cuz its imu the edge lord

wraith mantle
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Oh god now Imu’s colors are truly at risk

latent hamlet
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"My serious OC Darkjoy can't be this goofy!"

icy magnet
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i hated the eyes popping out their sockets when gear 5 came out, the jaws dropping does have a meaning in that way though

fervent fable
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If imu is the devil then who tf is black nika

icy magnet
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me

wraith mantle
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Niggas calling this shit peak

fiery spire
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Yes

latent hamlet
wraith mantle
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Icant bro

fiery spire
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Can a man not even shout in this economy

icy magnet
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is that a turbine

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💔

wraith mantle
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It’s a plate I think

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Or some sort of pot

fiery spire
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I thought it was a cup for a sec

icy magnet
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ohh i see that

dawn gazelle
ornate tartan
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now ppl goofy for yelling? tell me what was goofy about that scene?😂😂

prisma yacht
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Goofy dragon

heady smelt
heady smelt
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I'm kinda glad to see Imu yelling like that tbh

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You can tell that the whole thing with Joyboy keeps tormenting him, this is why Oda drew him like that

ornate tartan
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he’s gonna have a lot of depth

digital spear
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Yeah people are forgetting the actual meaning of this lol

ornate tartan
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what’s the difference between a god and a devil?

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I liked that part too

heady smelt
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Imu and Joyboy being good friends, or brothers...hmm that's gonna be interesting

icy magnet
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Joyboy was definitely the one who broke up

heady smelt
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It's clear that there were two visions clashing

latent hamlet
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Imagine saying joy and boy in the same sentence

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Imu: WHY THE FUCK DID U SAY THAT

icy magnet
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i think it'll be an evil version of Luffy vs Usopp

ornate tartan
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I think Imu can potentially be the best written character in this series

latent hamlet
ornate tartan
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his ideology is interesting

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I just want to see where that was born from

heady smelt
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It really looks like Imu planned some form of coup

icy magnet
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if Joyboy and Luffy are really similar it would mean Joyboys army was in play to support Imu, i doubt Imu had his own army and maybe that's why he has his own military power being Omen?

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because as we know Luffy makes everyone his ally and blablabla

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so Joyboy would've had the same attribute

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I'm guessing Joyboy didn't like the idea of Dominion and stood against Imu's ideals to which Imu thought Joyboy discarded him and boom

heady smelt
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I'll tell what I think, I believe Imu and Joyboy were probably from the same family, at some point I reckon the ancient kingdom refused to go further in what they were doing, and Imu got a bit pissed...I imagine he wanted to have all the power but something in the ancient kingdom's rules or something prevented that, so I think he decided to form a rebellion with help from the outside world. Then, he probably needed the "devil fruit" which was probably seen as the ultimate fruit for absolute power and he promised the 19 others kings that they'll be rewarded if they support him

icy magnet
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imuboy breakup

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we're onto two different ideas here

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but i nonetheless have to say yours makes sense

heady smelt
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Yeah I mean I didn't write that to oppose you :)) this is just my opinion

icy magnet
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nono i didn't take it very opposing

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just wanted to show support

heady smelt
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If you like it, thank you! I'm not really a youtuber or anything but I love theorizing about OP! Now it's getting easier as things are getting clearer in the story

heady smelt
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I also want to point at what Emeth said "sorry for not being able to make you king", doesn't it sound like Joyboy was supposed to inherit a kingdom of some sort? I can definitely imagine Joyboy being the official heir, but not caring about that, and Imu trying to seize it by force

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Hmm...Oden also was the heir to the shogun, and Orochi plotted against him 🤔

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Thinking out loud sorry 🤣 🙏

iron oriole
dense haven
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any soyjak fans in chat

barren token
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people still crashing out?

grand flower
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@barren token @ashen perch

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Oda did it to soon with Imu instead of waiting

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Ignoring Imu has existed for 300 chapters

latent hamlet
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I think a lot of people kinda blanked out on imu pre-reveal ngl

grand flower
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“Dofy wasn’t being this goofy when he was introduced”

latent hamlet
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Like he had essentially no character besides being a dick / MU PROCLAIMS THIS

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But with imu reveal we finally see what they're actually like

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And people arent a fan of what he genuinely seems to be like

frozen aspen
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Did the police arrest pew's ass

iron oriole
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These people just want what happened to Naruto

wraith mantle
barren token
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Man it's so fucked up after finishing the chapter i came here to poke fun at Imus dumb face but people were getting so genuinely upset about it I had to defend it

wraith mantle
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Pew is probably just spooked

latent hamlet
iron oriole
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Wait... people are mad about the Imu screaming Joyboy panel?

barren token
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I just thought Imu was going to be a serious villain I guess he's actually just another buggy CP0Over

atomic spindle
prisma yacht
iron oriole
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Seems in character for him to act like that when referring to Joyboy, very clearly has always been obsessed with him so BrookShrug

latent hamlet
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Like they think it goes against the intended vibe/design

iron oriole
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Idk if its just me but i dont get a "goofy" vibe from it

atomic spindle
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Imu is that shy philosophy nerd girl but somehow an opportunity to rule the world appeared before her

prisma yacht
wraith mantle
atomic spindle
prisma yacht
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!rmd 2days nickchange

tropic novaBOT
latent hamlet
iron oriole
latent hamlet
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Its the most expressive imu has been besides the egghead haki knot lol

iron oriole
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I don't look at this & think "what a goofy goober Imu is with that silly face"

warm falcon
wraith mantle
urban lodge
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It's not meant to be comedic

urban lodge
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It's just unintentionally comedic because it's Imu

barren token
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like can I ask that actually?

wraith mantle
barren token
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You know that Imu is angry with Joyboy

latent hamlet
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People think its comedic and hates it BECAUSE its imu doing that

barren token
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Wdym you don't know enough about him

latent hamlet
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The most devil looking mfer

barren token
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do you think he made that face for shits and giggles?

upbeat yarrow
latent hamlet
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People think "here's the super serious guy he isnt supposed to be this weird exaggerated crashout"

barren token
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80% of the faces goofiness comes from a fucking meme that there's no shot oda knows about man

cosmic hamlet
iron oriole
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Like i said, it seems very in character for Imu...

I imagine after the PTSD Egghead moment he also raged a bit off screen too

warm falcon
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oda doing these faces since day 0

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its just his style

barren token
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It's literally a bad face

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I don't like how this faces looks and it's funny because it's soyjack

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but some of these reactions...

latent hamlet
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Oda's last dose of internet meme stuff was probably him talking to LA people

stone terrace
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Damn people are still talking about the face

upbeat yarrow
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look for every heavy emotional scene in one piece and you will see this kind of expressions
the issue here is that in the west we see these kind of expressions and we think OH SOYJAK FACE

atomic spindle
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Imu is sensitive to anything that reminds him of his past

warm falcon
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its normal you dont like an aspect of some work

dark nymph
warm falcon
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but whinning about this so much is so.....

upbeat yarrow
atomic spindle
frozen aspen
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I think if leakers on twt get arrested they will just move to 4chan lol

iron oriole
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Oh that thing

wraith mantle
latent hamlet
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People complain about agenda piece and memes that rot OP

Meanwhile
"Imu made a weird face. Fucking loser. Not my villain. Give me BB"

wraith mantle
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I heard the fbi got their ass or something

iron oriole
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I didn't even know that had a name MutleyLaugh

urban lodge
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Please let Worstgenhq be the first one to go

frozen aspen
wraith mantle
frozen aspen
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i think ofcom in britain has been threatening them with fines but they don't gaf lol

ornate tartan
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they will start leaking on this app instead of twitter

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or other apps

frozen aspen
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even if 4chan was gone there is still 8chan

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gl trying to catch leakers on these places

prisma yacht
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What about 16chan

dark nymph
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twitter valley

wraith mantle
dark nymph
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who-slop 😭

frozen aspen
ornate tartan
grand flower
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It’s just like how i can indulge in how emotional kumas story is

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Even though he’s built like THAT the entire time

latent hamlet
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Some1 should make a list of all the "goofy" faces during a moment of seriousness and then see if that side of the audience vibes with it or thinks its trash

warm falcon
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shiki + kaidou colours...?

shadow knoll
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Kinda mid, ngl

ornate tartan
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oda really gave Imu size manipulation soul manipulation and environment manipulation

cosmic hamlet
shadow knoll
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Last chapter was more fun

ornate tartan
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his abilities are damn near toon force

grand flower
shadow knoll
upbeat yarrow
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evil toon force

grand flower
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I feel like Imus effect on the environment is due to his Haki being converted into Omen

warm falcon
shadow knoll
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Nika's powers are cartoonish as well

grand flower
shadow knoll
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I thought Egghead was more seinen esque

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So, had an assumption that Oda might go forward with content for an older audience

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But keeping it shounen is fine as well I guess

latent hamlet
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He's probably heard stories of kids and teens reading his books

warm sierra
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wdym hes heard stories, the magazine hes been published in since the start is aimed at young teens lol

grand flower
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Lolol

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I think smugu means he’s probably heard specific firsthand experiences from young readers

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He does do a lot of postcards, he’s mentioned he reads and keeps every one, even the ones that don’t make it into the SBS

warm falcon
thick maple
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anyone can read onepiece as long as they know how to read

warm falcon
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rip the blind ones

shadow knoll
latent hamlet
latent hamlet
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U think kids and teens now dont get into OP?

iron oriole
latent hamlet
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This isnt the era where u get bullied for liking anime / manga

dark nymph
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unfortunately JuPeter

latent hamlet
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This is the era of getting bullied because you didnt watch / read tbat specific manga

shadow knoll
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And with the theme being corruption, I thought

latent hamlet
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If this was a seinen

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We'd have so many more deaths

shadow knoll
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Yeah, exactly

iron oriole
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OP just like every other shonen, has teen boys as their target audience

warm falcon
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i heard

thick maple
shadow knoll
warm falcon
shadow knoll
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That's actually cancer

dense haven
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one piece fans forget they used to be bullied

iron oriole
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Bullying builds character

dense haven
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op was always the stupid of the big trio

shadow knoll
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Exactly

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If you don't get bullied growing up, you grow soft

dense haven
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the opressed become the oppressors

shadow knoll
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And get butt hurt over what people think

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Like the wokes on twitter

latent hamlet
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Nowadays its
"OP is king"
"Blood war anime is peak"
"Boruto is trash 90% of the time . 10% is ok"

stone terrace
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Let em know shoyu

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Youre all WOKE pansies

noble carbon
tropic novaBOT
noble carbon
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This dude talking about soft

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Come on man

shadow knoll
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?

noble carbon
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What the hell do you mean "wokes"

iron oriole
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It used to be "sticks & stones may break my bones but words will never effect me"

shadow knoll
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You think liking cats makes me soft

shadow knoll
noble carbon
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😭

dense haven
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one peice went woke

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why are you still a fan

thick maple
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this woke shit serious

wraith mantle
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Is one piece woke?

shadow knoll
warm falcon
urban lodge
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Can't believe Oda made a guy with LONG HAIR

warm falcon
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but i agree, BL is kinda memesy

shadow knoll
upbeat yarrow
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guys im starting to think the WG in one piece might be a critique to real life world governments

shadow knoll
upbeat yarrow
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sounds out of pocket i know

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but i feel it

warm falcon
wraith mantle
urban lodge
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Better not to continue this

warm falcon
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more like liberal

thick maple
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what is woke

warm falcon
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a kind of food

noble carbon
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Ok let's move on please

shadow knoll
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Yeah

noble carbon
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This is teetering kinda close to political territory

shadow knoll
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I wish snod was here

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She could give a better explanation, tbh

dark nymph
warm falcon
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i dont think there is problem in being political, the problem is being partisan.

politics involves critics of the plot world

thick maple
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good to see my message is still pinged

warm falcon
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politics involves everything

shadow knoll
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Agreed

leaden rivet
shadow knoll
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But, some mods are strict

warm falcon
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cause OP is very political in this sense

noble carbon
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discontent

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That's it?

leaden rivet
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Well he’s rather mild mannered

distant vine
warm falcon
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what we ask is good sense and good manners in this kinda of debate

shadow knoll
leaden rivet
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I don’t know if anger is the right word, he was pretty chill when he was like “racism is so 2025”

warm falcon
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thats why it was almost rejected 'too complicated'

noble carbon
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Someone send the page of Jinbei sending Who's Who through a wall

leaden rivet
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He would’ve done that ANYWAY

noble carbon
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Jinbeis so cool man

shadow knoll
leaden rivet
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Politics can mean anything, I assume they just meant to not associate it with current real life politics

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Like the WG itself is political

warm falcon
leaden rivet
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Imu is political

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Tama is political

distant vine
runic dock
warm falcon
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vegapunk let this very clear, our interpretations that could be unhealthy taking parts what is wrong or right in this 'political' discussions:

imu represents the president x -- this is unhealthy ❌
imu represents goals justify the means -- more constructive ✅

leaden rivet
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Well to do that first we must look at Tama’s age

distant vine
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Considering the circumstances of Onigashima

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I think Tama's certainly still more ethical than the Beast Pirates

shadow knoll
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Tama just wanted her red bean soup man...

leaden rivet
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Tama is 8, so generally she would get a pass for many of the ethical discrepancies she commits.

However in a sense she is enslaving people, and takin away their consent and their own free will, she really is a child of her bloodline.

leaden rivet
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Maybe Hiyori was right

runic dock
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But if it’s stopping that horse lady from committing war crimes…

shadow knoll
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If I wanted my red bean soup and they weren't giving me cuz of some complicated bs, I sure would become political BBWise

leaden rivet
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Is it a crime if it’s backed by the shogun? The law creator of Wano? As far as I’m concerned the only person committing crimes is Tama.

runic dock
warm falcon
# shadow knoll But, some mods are strict

its understandable, this server is huge. political debates always demand moderation and its not easy. i guess its more recomendable this depth of discussion in minor servers

runic dock
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Hiyori was right

runic dock
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But if they were criminals that would have been normally jailed for a long time or for life

runic dock
prisma yacht
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im laughing so hard at this gif

shadow knoll
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Speed is allowed to stream all the episodes of One Piece without getting DMCA-ed apparently

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Toei approved

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W speed

safe cove
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which omen is your fav

dark nymph
prisma yacht
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haunter is my fav maki haki

shadow knoll
leaden rivet
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A good contrast as while Tama is enslaving people, Oden at the same age was scouring red light districts.

safe cove
leaden rivet
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Oden later grew up to do worse and worse things

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I fear what Tama will do when she grows up

tidal ice
prisma yacht
shadow knoll
runic dock
warm falcon
#

Imu's powers remind many DF we ve already seen
(i know its obvious, but its too cool to see)

runic dock
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All others stem from

urban lodge
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It was so funny that at the end of the arc Oda realized the moral implications of her fruit and is like "wait, it actually expires"

warm falcon
dense haven
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earl did you like soyjak imu

warm falcon
latent hamlet
runic dock
warm falcon
ashen perch
# grand flower Oda did it to soon with Imu instead of waiting

Isn't it also better to establish the personality here with Imu early on? Establish the character he's supposed to be? We've seen him go absolutely nuts over Davy and Joyboy because Oda's establishing that he's really passionate about this lol, it makes sense

novel musk
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and his girl is lily

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💔

leaden rivet
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If Oda waited any longer people would be even more discontent at Imu straying from an established stoic personality

warm falcon
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imu is short tempered sometimes

  • angered by cobra
  • angered rapidly by Xebec's words
leaden rivet
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Better to get it done now

ashen perch
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Exactly

warm falcon
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far from the stoic or composed personality many expected

latent hamlet
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Remember the haki knot

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Bro could have been violently convulsing and looking like he'd want to vomit

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But that'd ruin his aura

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So he just looked like a squatting blob

ashen perch
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Even in the blob he'd look quite expressive

ashen perch
#

You could see him losing it over Xebec's taunts, over Joyboy, over Harald's defeat

latent hamlet
#

Instead its just

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😠

ashen perch
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_<

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But I mean its not a Katakuri thing too, this is just the average OP expression

latent hamlet
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But now with the mouth people say he looks more like this

ashen perch
#

Oda's big on exaggeration

ashen perch
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Big mouths, big tears, big crashouts, big everything

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Oda's style is one of exaggeration

warm falcon
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i wonder that supposed foreshadowing of Imu being genderless or androgynoys being coincidence or not

dense haven
#

zoro would never make a silly face

ashen perch
#

Well he has

warm falcon
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many times

latent hamlet
#

Correction
Post timeskip zoro

ashen perch
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He made many in East Blue, Enies Lobby, Dressrosa

warm falcon
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the most fun is the one jaw dropping with a sword inside

latent hamlet
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insert all the complaints of post timeskip zoro barely being comedic

ashen perch
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Oh he dropped a funny face just in Egghead

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That face of disgust at Lucci and Kaku

warm falcon
hot cairn
ashen perch
#

I think spice knows, he's just being silly

random crow
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LA Zoro is also just the badass part of him. Feels like Oda forgot he is silly

latent hamlet
#

They fixed it up in season 2

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Not luffy sanji usopp levels but more dry humor

warm falcon
ashen perch
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Which Oda was more involved in compared to the previous

latent hamlet
#

Tbf I think season 1 was more testing the waters anyways

warm sierra
#

did zoro also make that one face in wano?

latent hamlet
#

Season 2 and 3 they can push hard cuz they know the vibe

ashen perch
latent hamlet
#

Supposedly in interview the directors and people pretty much vet almost everything through Oda

ashen perch
#

I really doubt he's that involved tbh, he doesn't have the time for all that

latent hamlet
#

I think its more ideas exchanged and stuff

trim lily
#

we know he goes over the general direction at least

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he’s probably happy they get to include stuff he didn’t get to at the start or only added later

latent hamlet
#

So do u think krieg was an oda idea or a Netflix idea

trim lily
#

oda HATES krieg

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he personally wrote that entire scene

latent hamlet
#

Does he?

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That'd be kinda funny

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"I had to put in a bad guy for the sake of this arc but honestly fuck him. Give it to Mihawk"

willow pollen
#

That cover page awoke something in me

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Like a sleeper agent

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It all came flooding back

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I can’t look at rabbits anymore

hot cairn
#

worst cover page in a long time

urban lodge
#

Best

willow pollen
#

Agree

dapper tree
#

Vain noooo

hot cairn
#

I don’t get what people see in carrot man

dapper tree
#

Don't look

dapper tree
urban lodge
#

She's fun and silly

thick maple
#

garuchu

hot cairn
urban lodge
#

What more do you need

#

Her relationship to Pedro is cool

warm falcon
#

joyboy and lily practised extreme garchu, thats why Imu is mad

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🐂

prisma yacht
#

truth nuke

grand flower
latent hamlet
#

Joyboy and Lili had sandwiches at the park

runic dock
dense haven
#

zou was odas furry phase, hes done now

warm sierra
#

they pulled him back with the cover request

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also loki hybrid form gonna be diabolical

prisma yacht
#

thats bcs of the hidden easter egg

hot cairn
willow pollen
#

The ideas are already flowing into my head

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Carrot? Walking on the ocean?

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What else walks on the ocean

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Zou

ornate tartan
willow pollen
#

Bruh

#

Why does it look like that

dense haven
#

joyboy stole his best friends girl

#

this yalls goat?

leaden rivet
#

If Joyboy looks exactly like Luffy I’m flipping a table

random crow
#

I think the one behind Joyboy in the last chapter was Lily, not Imu

urban lodge
ashen perch
#

Inaki with red hair*

dapper tree
latent hamlet
dense haven
#

joyboy looking like luffy would be really funny

#

iimagine luffy but hes 8m tall

hot cairn
dapper tree
#

luffy is a clone

iron oriole
dapper tree
#

clone piece is back

hot cairn
#

happily a carrot hater

grand flower
dapper tree
#

carrot really did nothing wrong but oda decided he hated her in wano

urban lodge
#

I blame that weird editor who said weird things

hot cairn
#

that’s what she deserves

hot cairn
random crow
#

Carrot is way cooler than Jinbei but since the ten spots were filled she's gone 🙁

grand flower
dapper tree
#

she really didn't deserve to be exiled to zou to do nothing

hot cairn
#

my bad

leaden rivet
dapper tree
#

LOL

grand flower
urban lodge
#

Lmao

latent hamlet
#

Thats her reward I guess?

dapper tree
#

She got nothing

hot cairn
#

Oda is goated for that

grand flower
serene plume
#

Yo.

warm falcon
serene plume
#

Am i hearing perospero slander.

grand flower
#

The series also softens the blow by establishing that Carrot loses stamina when Sulong runs out

dapper tree
#

not really