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I can not pull panels for each and every character
😂
How did you land on her believing? She is just confused
she is asking what the void century is
Ch 1114 for the CD thing you were talking about
@prisma idol ask me why luffy is selfish
I don't think this indicates she is believing vegapunk message, she is just confused and in conflict
according to your standard for koby she should be saying "how can we trust that vegapunk in the first place"
We all know he is
No, all I'm asking for is. "Is it true?"
Thats the kind of reaction people give listening to a persons statement whom you didn't meet
Not exact words but similar
The lack of questioning from koby to validate information is what his sense of justice is flawed
Youve managed to downplay vegapunks credibility in the one piece world to “a person who you haven’t met” and that’s impressive
lmfao
I should trust information from Albert Einstein and a homeless dude on the street equally
I have been reading multiply peoples messages for 1 hr and you didn't even my messages 😭
I have mentioned this from the very start
That from koby pov vegapunk is a stranger whom he didn't meet and doesn't know his personality
That’s not true
From Koby pov vegapunk is a world renowned scientist and the smartest man on the world
That alone makes what he says credible
No? Just question the validity of it? Just because it comes from einstein doesn't mean its true. He has been wrong aswell
Behold, the only selfless characters in One Piece
I'm really not even sure what the point is supposed to be. Coby has no reason to distrust Vegapunk's word.
- He's the most well known scientist in the world of one piece.
- He's actively rebelling against the government by talking about things deemed forbidden.
- The government tried to cut his speech short.
Why would ANYONE distrust his word given all of this?
Because you need something to go after Koby for
That’s really what this seems like
It’s a standard that’s never been held in one piece
4th reason is that he starts his speech by saying "im gonna predict some things, if these don't happen, dont listen"
There is a middle ground between these 2.
According to you people there are only 2 cases
- Blindly believe
- Blindly ignore and laugh at
There is something called taking it with a grain of salt
I'm joking now because this discussion is pointless
I agree
Its dragged for too long
I will stop
Koby discussions are often like that
What else is there to do at work?
You're involved in them often are you
I will now spend my 1 hr working so that i can relax rest of the day
I bet Oda just wanted to include koby in the race and did not think about anything else 😭
I think this is the first time i have discussed this long about koby 😭
He is
that's literally it lol
just needed to have some more marine rep there
He’s got big plans for him
I agree with this, he is been in the story even before zoro I think? Yet the progress is lacking
All of this would’ve been avoided if it was Smoker instead
I think a lot of these characters are gonna get 1 big thing before the story ends
and Coby is one of them
Smoker doesn't concern himself with fairytales
I’ve always liked him but the hachinosu mini arc rly showed that hell have a fairly large part in the story
Yea
but i think there is more for him
I think him learning about luffys real dream will eventually happen
nojiko is so much more like her mother than that orange haired lady
The transition to fuji wasn't great and fuji himself has been out for long
Has to pull an asspull greater than luffy from here for koby
what are you on about dawg
Aren't you talking about koby?
yeah
I'm talking about his power level
just give him some acoc
He is no where near the leagues of luffy or others
conq + acoc unlock like zoro did
yeah he's not and I really don't think he will be in the current era
Coby is one of those characters who reaches his peak after the end of the story
Luffy has to go through multiple battles to achieve it so if koby acheives it without battles it will be asspull 😐
in an epilogue or something
built diff 🤷
luffy didnt get acoa until wano training
coby used that shit on hachinosu
It depends. It's something that can be taught, Luffy just had to learn on his own which was very hard
I don't think its something you can teach easily
Otherwise why would rayleigh not teach luffy?
sure it doesn't need to be easy but Luffy literally did not know it existed
he figured it out completely on his own
he's built different
he's the GOAT
🐐 i say
rayleigh only taught him the basics
He was able to figure it out because he learned ACoA from hyogoro
he didnt teach him acoa but the old man in prison helped luffy learn it
yeah, and he told him that he'll only develop by fighting people who are much stronger than him. It was a deliberate decision because Rayleigh believed he could do it on his own
its not a matter of oda retconning stuff because adv armament has existed atleast since sabaody
yea it was cool that one of the first showcases of haki was actually an advanced form
My point still stands though, advance forms are not that simple to teach
yeah they definitely arent
but still, being taught and learning on your own are gonna be different
im not even saying someone is gonna teach coby that
Even koby unlocked ACoA through battle
and im not even saying oda should give him advanced conquerors
but still, If you literally don't know somehting exists, and figure it fully on your own
you're gonna take longer than someone who was just taught that thing
We don't even know if he has CoC
😂
if its hard to learn when someone teaches you, it's definitely harder to learn on your own
I see acoa, I leave chat
hate those terms too
Internal destruction 
i always just write the full one
indeed
Mecha arm
holy
I know imu is the gorosei's leader but it's kind of incredible how much more presence and impact he's had in 2 chapters than all five combined over like 20 chapters
I think it was just joyboy 1v5 them from the grave
otherwise they'd have succeeded
Gorosei had a terrifying presence as well

I think the joyboy dickriding is excessive
Not you, i mean the characters inside the manga dickride him excessively
It’s called early investment
People start hyping him now that way when he inevitably does something cool, they can cash it in and say they were a day 1
Well he is the first pirate, previous known user of the nika fruit, The person responsible for the one piece, Imu and the WG clearly have extensive history with him, was mentioned first in Fishman island, His stored haki in emeth kicked the elders back to mariejois
I don't think it's excessive
I was talking about characters inside one piece but yeah we also hype him
Ohhh
Sorry
Just like how wano people dickrided oden excessively
He's one of, if not the most important characters in the story
you using that word again and again is pissing me off though

Joyboy is extremely important
so the story hypes him up
I mean, i would have liked if some neutral opposition to joyboy and not just wg opposition
Hyping is okay but all these guys coming out and saying "I'm sorry joyboy" is getting tiring. If i hear one more person involved in void century and comes out and says "I'm sorry joyboy" i would flip
It's very easy to understand why only the WG, or the strongest people who are able to seek out information would be aware of him
idk man, it seems like a you thing
i dont find it to be a problem at all
Joyboy lost a 100 year war
and died
and his allies (presumably) are still alive
(well some of them)
and them saying "im sorry" isn't a big deal lol
You could say this about anything😭
not really though. You say it's excessive but only 2 characters have talked about joyboy in the way you suggest
zunesha and emeth
It just gives of a vibe that joyboy did it all alone and these guys are sorry they couldn't help him 😭
Those are the only 2 with joyboy who appeared in current timeline
I think you're thinking too deeply about some of these things. no doubt there's a lot of meaning in their words but at the same time
it may literally be as simple as "we lost a 100 year war, we fought by your side, we're sorry we couldn't make you win"
how is that excessive or problematic in any way
How is it not? What are they apologizing for?

I just think they all acting same whoever is involved with joyboy side
The problem is that the only 2 people who involved had similar dialogues
It's just regret man.
simple
They wish things turned out differently
I don't know, like when i was reading wano i liked oden and his flashback but then in the current timeline they used to mention oden for every little instance which irritated me a bit
This also gives me same vibes where they will mention him needlessly too many times in the final war
I'm not asking to not mention but there is middle ground between not mentioning and excessive mention
do you think it had to do with the following reasons:
- He was the most prominent character in the arc.
- His son was to be the shogun of wano.
- All of the major side characters were his retainers.
- He scarred kaido and had history with him.
- He sacrified his life so they had a shot against Kaido in the future.
I don't think it's been excessive at all, feels to me you're just finding issues that don't exist. But you're allowed to have your opinion so I won't criticize it beyond that backhanded comment.
Ceasar>Imu confrimed
any soyjak fans in chat
yesss
He was important and most prominent character in the arc. I liked him. But i just felt like his mention was sometimes forced
Just to keep him relevant
to me it felt like Oda was trying so hard for me to like Oden
the whole harem and picking fights nonsense feel like something a 14 year old would write about their OC
or someone based on Japanese folk stories
nah
nah
One piece fans when you don't like every character Oda writes:
you sound like a EL fan
people criticize and then start doing stuff like this when they're told their criticism is dumb
El?
enies lobby but i imagine you knew
ay man whats wrong with enies lobby
why did you even abrivate Enis Lobby?
EOS akainu > prime joyboy
so true
I'm not defending him but you cannot simply call it dumb without actually mentioning any points if the other person criticism has points 
that shit ain't long either
imu vs mihawk who wins
mihawk
I've mentioned plenty on why I don't find Oden's portrayal to be problematic in any way in the manga
I don't need to say anything else
You don't like enies lobby?
bad
akainu
you're response was passive agressive at my end
oh yeah it was, fully intentional
I'm not talking about our argument 😭
I was talking about that specific message you said to call it dumb
yeah bro is just trying to ragebait
I can sense it
I don't know about that
yeah im not gonna seriously interact with a "criticism" that is essentially saying "oda wrote oden like a 14yo writes his oc"
i dont feel like it's worth my time
He discussed with me fine

With haki? 
you still responded anyway
yeah i called it dumb
without trying to reason with you
while watching a counter-strike video on the side
Counter strike still relevant?
barely
can't handle a opposing view lil bro?
Absolutely not
You guys fighting more than arguing about the topic 😐
I dont really get the problem here. Wano was about a man who inspired his disciples after death and saving them, and gave the whole nation - and even Kaido - hope. He was a legendary figure everyone met despite being just a random, flawed and weird guy, which is the point of his character
you can still understand a character and not like them.
Oden isn't not that subtle as a character. in his depication.
I didn't deny any of this though, i already said he is a very prominant character of the arc, but his mention should feel natural. It just felt like he was mentioned too many times and sometimes forced and not natural just for the sake of it
I am a garp hater because I understand his complexity.
To the scabbards and Momo his death was only a few months ago as well, and every event in the current story is smth all of Wano had been waiting for for 20 years based on his prophecy
Not all scabbards
the ones we know in depth
Its like 4 people who went to future other than momo
Eh
not to mention Oda said he didn't had time for stuff like Moria to be revealed as a Kozuki in the arc in a SBS.
Only kinemon we know in depth and maybe kiku
outside of zoro I wonder how much content he cut out to make room for oden.
and the scabbards.
I feel like he couldn't complete some plots, minor ones. Everyone agrees that end of the wano is rushed
I probably would like wano more if he managed to keep both of these plot points.
he didnt say that
Lmao thank you for this 
stfu bro catch these hands
the scabbards are fine for what they are but they do take up a lot of space.
they take up so much space oda had to make denjiro disappear for no reason
Denjiro's reintroduction was werid.
there are many things I can suspend belief for in OP but get so angry to the point you get a different face is werid
So kaido included himself? 😭
that's literally what I said
You said he didnt have the time to reveal it
because he spent that time with the scabbards
kaido dead
*guys who were relevant to the arc
who said they weren't?
So what's even ur point 💀
I asked you a question first
"I wanted to include but I couldn't find an opening for it" =/= he didnt have the time for it
Are u trolling dude
Oda says he cldnt find an opening to fit in morias story and ur point to counter this was he spent it writing scabbards
it still does.What's not clicking to you?not finding the opening for it can be considered the same as not having the time to include it.
Some voices don't deserve to be heard 
Don't try to look cool
well it's not but you can believe it if you want

If Oda has an opening to smth he will spend time on it no matter what, if he doesn't he doesn't mention it at all
Sure
I think it should have focused more on the scabbards, so in that way I agree that it's rushed, but even with the little they got ppl are complaining so I'm fine with the middle ground
it isn't exclusive to the scabbards alone.
Oda had too many ideas going on that he wanted to include in wano.
resulting in the bloat that is the onigashima raid to me.
that's fine but I would appericate it more if stuff like Zoro's family tree was in the actual story.
or at least give Zoro more of a role outside of recieving Enma
I was sick of him after his second fakeout death.
I thought it was cathartic
to me he should of died the first time against Kiku.
That scene felt more powerful to me then his later scenes.
to me the later scenes it cheapens the first.
dont we still get choptir
I doubt that , leakers are having it tight

nah it'll be fine
Attention > freedom
Lmao
wtf is this even supposed to mean
i actually have no idea what im gonna do when one piece ends
such a crazy concept isnt it
that one piece will end
Its because of the recent incident
Where they caught some spanish website?
Garp and dragon spinoffs 
What happened to Pewpiece exactly??? His X account is private
The big dogs are on his ass
CP0 took him out
Oh shit
We need to save him
omg just like Enies Lobby ‼️
thanks to him for the spoilers throughout all these years, it seems like it's over now
spoilers are GONE
fuck him
GET FUCKED
SENT TO THE GULAG
Wasn't a big fan of spoilers, also think im biased because of how bad reading JJK weekly was
feels so bad for spoilerbros, now they gonna have to read the manga like the rest of us 😔
spoilers will never go away, only way it would happen is if one piece went full digital
For a while, spoilers were the norm for OP, there was no official release except for the volumes when they got translated in your language, so they really "helped" making series like OP popular in their way. They should've stopped after Manga Plus was created imo. But a lot of persons will miss them, all those who are used to read it early, even those who were calling them "Ledon" etc lol
so the ass hint gifs were unuseful all this time
"i want to leak"
Take me to Spain with you ,take me away from here
Spain is nice. I like spain
Me gusta
Lo siento redon
Crazy coincidence that when Imu is revealed in the manga and finally starts fighting, the real world is going against the leakers
facts about Spain
- a multiethnical country
- multilinguistical, Spanish is just 1 more, and other name for Castilian
- Roman emperos came from there
- Flamenco has moroccan and arab and local origins, truly a multiethnical
is Captain John Giant the first giant we see in the whole story?
Thank you. Now I can walk with my head held high
another one: Portuguese was born in Spain too
another one: Redon is from the most oppressive city, that want to homogeneize other Spanish regions.
the irony. #redon-imu
fun fact about spain: its now weaker than the coutries it conquered
lol
awesome
"chankaege" 🤣
challenge to thighbreaker: remember the name of the girl of his pfp without googling
Ææææ
Porche?
In case someone needs inspiration for a new nick
🚙
I vote for her a lot in the poll
you took 1 min, you googled 😮💨
I never forget my honeybuns
But I forget names like chapapa because I don't care much for him
And vivi's rebel loverboy
Koza
Now I remember
Wtf this so cute this made my heart shine a littl brither :heart :
:3
I can tell that half of this fanbase hasn’t started reading op for more then 5 years and came from JJK
complaining about the Imu yelling panel and saying he lost “aura”. What?😂😂
They are intangible. Look at how the tiny ghost hand warps through the other cat
They wanted him to be stone faced 24/7
I cannot believe that something like this can be an issue for people
indeed 
Yk who else is intangible
Love that they gave him saggy tits instead
Biblo
Oda even made sure to have Loki say it out loud that Imu is zoning out
Literally my first message after the chapter drop yesterday
I love this shit
its impressive how early in the story this line appears
Woop Slap is the real final villain
still caught me by surprise about the time xD never expected he being goofy so early
Yes we are gonna have another free will or destiny discussion
I always expected imu to do goofy stuff like most villains end up doing
just didnt expect it to be so early
its hilarious though
The crash out from the fans is kinda funny and sad at the same time
shit like this always made me think D stood for Destiny or Destined or something
u defined
He is the mastermind
nah, its to remember that Imu is a D.ickhead
man plz dont start this
greeting yano where have you been?
In Yano
yano
wano arc if it was good
Enjoy it, you won't get another
damn
I was the mastermind
There will be more goofy scenes but Imu will also make it clear that hes deadly
Whenever Imu does anything people will switch up accordingly
so Imu blocked that last attack right?
That blast?
Imu really looks like a visual kei singer
the tree seems completely undamaged but Imu has a little of that OP dirt ™ on him
Tanked that shit
Oda keeps saying in author comments that he was on a concert
Oh really? I missed that part
its in a small bracket at the start of chapters
I just looked up what that is and yeah I see it
Why is oda so bad at drawing fights
so maybe thats why Imu looks like it
He's probably among the best when it comes to fights imo
I beat up Oda in a fight once so now he hates fights
Yes it's a genre of Japanese music and a whole style visually, I used to listen to that a lot lol
Not a block
Huh no?
Makes sense
I think he makes some interactions vague cause he doesn't wanna lay it all out
This is true I was there
fight choreography isn't the end all for what makes a fight interesting for me
I'm taking about drawing, he doesn't draw the fights well
This fight started with a good emotional appeal
I don't care about your interests, he don't know how to draw fight moments to make people understand how fight went
I think for like 99% of interactions its pretty easy to tell what's going on
I think I only remember one instance where it wasn't clear recently, and that was in Egghead with Luffy vs Kizaru
who should i vote for in wt100 today
Biblu
Nah, people often interpret how it went
I needed this explained to me in the manga
Skill issue
there's no biblu in the poll
So Imu's omen kinda look like Boo from Mario 😂
This is a matter of reading comprehension
Biblu is his pet name , you can search up biblo
Thank you
Not really? If you want to meat ride oda and say he is good at everything then go ahead, don't try to convince me
So does Imu really have a black blade?
He painted dumbo
i mean bro did have 800 years time
That wld make it black
yes
So it's black
i just want to mention Corruption and Armament, IF Omen (Maki) will be it's own thing it would make Corruption the opposing power to Armament it seems, so my guess is while Armament coats weapons or items with Haki enhancing their stats temporarily Corruption corrupts the weapons as to why they stay black after the procedure, is there anything to contradict this? working on a theory kinda
here that was my thought on black blades
going by that Imu obviously has one
just a theory tho
looks black to me
The Mihawk upscale never ends
during one of the hk mini flashbacks, there was a shape that looked similar to mihawk 
Looks like a beam version of Omen flames
how is Loki still standing after ts btw
man these characters really survive these attacks with zero drawbacks whatsoever
Mythical df durability
bro's blood is clogging his lungs biologically speaking, ain't no df durability doing shit
i know it's fiction
Then Oda bs
it still annoys me that there isn't even a little bit of drawback
Because oda had to give sword to everyone
True.. I would to see more mech In the story
someone's child #2
Chopper is going come swinging the next chapters and Imu going to run away 🙌
its so funny seeing this fandom collectively turn into sb
sb hivemind
He’s washed
Bro is a one trick
Es Bee
Those fans are dumbs, it's always been the way Oda draws characters
people didn't hate Enel for it
Has doflamingo been this goofy?
WOFFY
Oda still thinks a soyjak face is funny in 2026
i guess bro
It's not necessarily about being goofy, Oda draws exaggerated mouths very often, and I'm pretty sure it's possible to find a panel of Doffy where he screams in a similar way, the mouth may be less open though, but we have even seen "glamour" character like Nami do it
people hate on it but it does present the feelings of the moment better than staying realistic
Ik was just giving fanning the flame a bit
This is only being brought up cuz its imu the edge lord
Oh god now Imu’s colors are truly at risk
"My serious OC Darkjoy can't be this goofy!"
i hated the eyes popping out their sockets when gear 5 came out, the jaws dropping does have a meaning in that way though
If imu is the devil then who tf is black nika
me
Niggas calling this shit peak
Yes
Gear death
Icant bro
Can a man not even shout in this economy
what even is the context of this image
is that a turbine
💔
I thought it was a cup for a sec
ohh i see that
Aah peak story
Goofy dragon
I think some people started OP one year ago and aren't used to Oda's style at all, that's the only logical explanation
I agree wholeheartedly
I'm kinda glad to see Imu yelling like that tbh
You can tell that the whole thing with Joyboy keeps tormenting him, this is why Oda drew him like that
he’s gonna have a lot of depth
Yeah people are forgetting the actual meaning of this lol
Imu and Joyboy being good friends, or brothers...hmm that's gonna be interesting
Joyboy was definitely the one who broke up
It's clear that there were two visions clashing
i think it'll be an evil version of Luffy vs Usopp
I think Imu can potentially be the best written character in this series
Usopp upscale?
It really looks like Imu planned some form of coup
if Joyboy and Luffy are really similar it would mean Joyboys army was in play to support Imu, i doubt Imu had his own army and maybe that's why he has his own military power being Omen?
because as we know Luffy makes everyone his ally and blablabla
so Joyboy would've had the same attribute
I'm guessing Joyboy didn't like the idea of Dominion and stood against Imu's ideals to which Imu thought Joyboy discarded him and boom
I'll tell what I think, I believe Imu and Joyboy were probably from the same family, at some point I reckon the ancient kingdom refused to go further in what they were doing, and Imu got a bit pissed...I imagine he wanted to have all the power but something in the ancient kingdom's rules or something prevented that, so I think he decided to form a rebellion with help from the outside world. Then, he probably needed the "devil fruit" which was probably seen as the ultimate fruit for absolute power and he promised the 19 others kings that they'll be rewarded if they support him
imuboy breakup
we're onto two different ideas here
but i nonetheless have to say yours makes sense
Yeah I mean I didn't write that to oppose you :)) this is just my opinion
If you like it, thank you! I'm not really a youtuber or anything but I love theorizing about OP! Now it's getting easier as things are getting clearer in the story
Oppose him
I also want to point at what Emeth said "sorry for not being able to make you king", doesn't it sound like Joyboy was supposed to inherit a kingdom of some sort? I can definitely imagine Joyboy being the official heir, but not caring about that, and Imu trying to seize it by force
Hmm...Oden also was the heir to the shogun, and Orochi plotted against him 🤔
Thinking out loud sorry 🤣 🙏
Random CD: our days are full with joy!!! Ain't that right boy??
Imu: 
any soyjak fans in chat
people still crashing out?
@barren token @ashen perch
Oda did it to soon with Imu instead of waiting
Ignoring Imu has existed for 300 chapters
I think a lot of people kinda blanked out on imu pre-reveal ngl
Like he had essentially no character besides being a dick / MU PROCLAIMS THIS
But with imu reveal we finally see what they're actually like
And people arent a fan of what he genuinely seems to be like
Did the police arrest pew's ass
Almost 1200 chapters in & making their first real move is too soon?
These people just want what happened to Naruto
Unclear
Man it's so fucked up after finishing the chapter i came here to poke fun at Imus dumb face but people were getting so genuinely upset about it I had to defend it
Pew is probably just spooked
U didnt want to be the common team lol
Wait... people are mad about the Imu screaming Joyboy panel?
I just thought Imu was going to be a serious villain I guess he's actually just another buggy 
I liked it
The other guy's statement is even more ass
Seems in character for him to act like that when referring to Joyboy, very clearly has always been obsessed with him so 
They dont like how he looks goofy with his jaw down
Like they think it goes against the intended vibe/design
Idk if its just me but i dont get a "goofy" vibe from it
Imu is that shy philosophy nerd girl but somehow an opportunity to rule the world appeared before her
lol also he had acrazy ass PTSD moment last arc
You don’t think it was meant as a comedic expression?
It's Oda staying true to his style
!rmd 2days nickchange
Well that depends
Do u think oda wanted to make a joke out of that moment?
Not really? Idt its a funny face tbh
Just seems like someone who's pissed at someone called Joyboy & is screaming it
Its the most expressive imu has been besides the egghead haki knot lol
I don't look at this & think "what a goofy goober Imu is with that silly face"
make your bet, dark blue or dark red?
Idk much about Imu to discern that
For example, in this panel, you know for a fact it’s not meant as comedic.
It's not meant to be comedic
Are you trolling?
It's just unintentionally comedic because it's Imu
like can I ask that actually?
I guess that’s true
You know that Imu is angry with Joyboy
People think its comedic and hates it BECAUSE its imu doing that
Wdym you don't know enough about him
The most devil looking mfer
do you think he made that face for shits and giggles?
oda has shown time and time again than when characters' faces contort, it means they are feeling strong emotions
People think "here's the super serious guy he isnt supposed to be this weird exaggerated crashout"
80% of the faces goofiness comes from a fucking meme that there's no shot oda knows about man
Love, angry same thing
Like i said, it seems very in character for Imu...
I imagine after the PTSD Egghead moment he also raged a bit off screen too
It's literally a bad face
I don't like how this faces looks and it's funny because it's soyjack
but some of these reactions...
Damn people are still talking about the face
look for every heavy emotional scene in one piece and you will see this kind of expressions
the issue here is that in the west we see these kind of expressions and we think OH SOYJAK FACE
Imu is sensitive to anything that reminds him of his past
its normal you dont like an aspect of some work
I like the one in ur pfp better tbh
but whinning about this so much is so.....
Wtf is a Soyjak face 
these unholy memes
Lily, Joyboy, Davy Jones Imu loses it everytime
I think if leakers on twt get arrested they will just move to 4chan lol
Oh that thing
Ain’t that site closed?
People complain about agenda piece and memes that rot OP
Meanwhile
"Imu made a weird face. Fucking loser. Not my villain. Give me BB"
I heard the fbi got their ass or something
I didn't even know that had a name 
Please let Worstgenhq be the first one to go
no???
god damn cockroaches
Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a clownish mix of both
i think ofcom in britain has been threatening them with fines but they don't gaf lol
even if 4chan was gone there is still 8chan
gl trying to catch leakers on these places
What about 16chan
twitter valley
Is 8chan supposed to be double as horrible as 4chan?
who-slop 😭
deep purple 
yes its actually worse lol
After 1200 chapters, I’m desensitized enough that I can accept it as just a natural part of the aesthetic
It’s just like how i can indulge in how emotional kumas story is
Even though he’s built like THAT the entire time
Some1 should make a list of all the "goofy" faces during a moment of seriousness and then see if that side of the audience vibes with it or thinks its trash

shiki + kaidou colours...?
Kinda mid, ngl
oda really gave Imu size manipulation soul manipulation and environment manipulation
I looked at this and thought "man imu is fat"
Last chapter was more fun
his abilities are damn near toon force
They’re very similar to luffys
It's to create similarity to how Joyboy's powers work
evil toon force
I feel like Imus effect on the environment is due to his Haki being converted into Omen
"whats difference between god and a devil?"
Nika's powers are cartoonish as well
Oda is too fire
So corny but so true
I thought Egghead was more seinen esque
So, had an assumption that Oda might go forward with content for an older audience
But keeping it shounen is fine as well I guess
Nah doubt
He's probably heard stories of kids and teens reading his books
wdym hes heard stories, the magazine hes been published in since the start is aimed at young teens lol
Lolol
I think smugu means he’s probably heard specific firsthand experiences from young readers
He does do a lot of postcards, he’s mentioned he reads and keeps every one, even the ones that don’t make it into the SBS
isnt one piece +10?
anyone can read onepiece as long as they know how to read
rip the blind ones
But, all the kids that started with the series are adults now
Ye my thought was more "he probably literally had kids and teens directly send him postcards and stuff to this day despite many more "mature" and "dark" stuff
And not just the ramblings of the internet
And?
U think kids and teens now dont get into OP?
Ever heard of more kids being born & then eventually reading OP?
This isnt the era where u get bullied for liking anime / manga
unfortunately 
This is the era of getting bullied because you didnt watch / read tbat specific manga

And with the theme being corruption, I thought
Yeah, exactly
OP just like every other shonen, has teen boys as their target audience
its more cultural japanese ppl getting a series midstory, for exemple, you can read a random chapter, if u like it,, you start from zero
i heard
me who gets bullied for liking blue lock
Oh okay
You should
canibal manga
That's actually cancer
one piece fans forget they used to be bullied
Bullying builds character
op was always the stupid of the big trio
the opressed become the oppressors
Nowadays its
"OP is king"
"Blood war anime is peak"
"Boruto is trash 90% of the time . 10% is ok"
!pfp @shadow knoll
Here is @shadow knoll's avatar.
?
What the hell do you mean "wokes"
It used to be "sticks & stones may break my bones but words will never effect me"
You think liking cats makes me soft
Google it
😭
this woke shit serious
Is one piece woke?
No it didn't
;lmfao
i always take OP fans with a grain of salt.. general are arrogant fans: "the other mangas are trash"
Can't believe Oda made a guy with LONG HAIR
but i agree, BL is kinda memesy
Oh I'm not a OP fan, I'm stuck to see the ending
guys im starting to think the WG in one piece might be a critique to real life world governments
I'm a liberal myself, but wokes and liberals are not the same
in japan standards, i guess?
What’s the difference
Better not to continue this
more like liberal
what is woke
a kind of food
Ok let's move on please
Yeah
This is teetering kinda close to political territory
utter woke nonsense
i dont think there is problem in being political, the problem is being partisan.
politics involves critics of the plot world
good to see my message is still pinged
politics involves everything
Agreed
Well Jinbei does express discontent with racism and stuff
But, some mods are strict
cause OP is very political in this sense
Well he’s rather mild mannered
what we ask is good sense and good manners in this kinda of debate
Exactly why I thought this arc might be more seinen esque
I don’t know if anger is the right word, he was pretty chill when he was like “racism is so 2025”
OP is seinen-borderline many times
thats why it was almost rejected 'too complicated'
Someone send the page of Jinbei sending Who's Who through a wall
He would’ve done that ANYWAY
Who said
Infact, tbh all the arcs expect Skypiea and WCI had something to do with politics.
Politics can mean anything, I assume they just meant to not associate it with current real life politics
Like the WG itself is political
altho i prefer social critique
True
Let us discuss the ethics of tama’s mind control
vegapunk let this very clear, our interpretations that could be unhealthy taking parts what is wrong or right in this 'political' discussions:
imu represents the president x -- this is unhealthy ❌
imu represents goals justify the means -- more constructive ✅
Well to do that first we must look at Tama’s age
Considering the circumstances of Onigashima
I think Tama's certainly still more ethical than the Beast Pirates
Tama just wanted her red bean soup man...
Tama is 8, so generally she would get a pass for many of the ethical discrepancies she commits.
However in a sense she is enslaving people, and takin away their consent and their own free will, she really is a child of her bloodline.
Great point
Maybe Hiyori was right
💀 that last part is devious
But if it’s stopping that horse lady from committing war crimes…
If I wanted my red bean soup and they weren't giving me cuz of some complicated bs, I sure would become political 
Is it a crime if it’s backed by the shogun? The law creator of Wano? As far as I’m concerned the only person committing crimes is Tama.
LMFAO
It’s crazy that her mind control wouldn’t be a big deal and only restricted to animals if her own family member didn’t create a situation where her fruit is more usable on people too
its understandable, this server is huge. political debates always demand moderation and its not easy. i guess its more recomendable this depth of discussion in minor servers
Hiyori was right
But if they were criminals that would have been normally jailed for a long time or for life
This is just a different type of jail
im laughing so hard at this gif
L ai slop
Speed is allowed to stream all the episodes of One Piece without getting DMCA-ed apparently
Toei approved
W speed
which omen is your fav
mihawk omen
haunter is my fav maki haki
the one that goes kapow~
stop xd
A good contrast as while Tama is enslaving people, Oden at the same age was scouring red light districts.
Oden later grew up to do worse and worse things
I fear what Tama will do when she grows up
boa environmentalist
That cat was taking up too much space anyways
:c
this cat from hood
nah, sink it again
I’ve made my conclusion : she’s reforming criminals who’d otherwise be in jail anyway
Imu's powers remind many DF we ve already seen
(i know its obvious, but its too cool to see)
As if it’s the OG fruit
All others stem from
It was so funny that at the end of the arc Oda realized the moral implications of her fruit and is like "wait, it actually expires"
its screentime expired, time was up
earl did you like soyjak imu
isnt eve tree before him?
"We prefer this slavery over kaido ngl"
stockholm syndrome
Perhaps , he could’ve been the first one to pick from it
i dont think literally, that the fruits stem from trees
i just find cool the many summed references to the christian culture
Isn't it also better to establish the personality here with Imu early on? Establish the character he's supposed to be? We've seen him go absolutely nuts over Davy and Joyboy because Oda's establishing that he's really passionate about this lol, it makes sense
I think imu lost his girl to Joyboy that’s why he’s so mad
and his girl is lily
💔
If Oda waited any longer people would be even more discontent at Imu straying from an established stoic personality
imu is short tempered sometimes
- angered by cobra
- angered rapidly by Xebec's words
Better to get it done now
Exactly
far from the stoic or composed personality many expected
He just had the mask to hide his crashout
Remember the haki knot
Bro could have been violently convulsing and looking like he'd want to vomit
But that'd ruin his aura
So he just looked like a squatting blob
Even in the blob he'd look quite expressive
controlling to not share that meme
You could see him losing it over Xebec's taunts, over Joyboy, over Harald's defeat
Ye but he doesnt have a mouth to cry out and look like katakuri
Instead its just
😠
But now with the mouth people say he looks more like this
Oda's big on exaggeration
Big mouths, big tears, big crashouts, big everything
Oda's style is one of exaggeration
i wonder that supposed foreshadowing of Imu being genderless or androgynoys being coincidence or not
zoro would never make a silly face
Well he has
many times
He made many in East Blue, Enies Lobby, Dressrosa
the most fun is the one jaw dropping with a sword inside
insert all the complaints of post timeskip zoro barely being comedic
i lost interest in zoro pt ngl
lmaooo he absolutely has
I think spice knows, he's just being silly
LA Zoro is also just the badass part of him. Feels like Oda forgot he is silly
this balance that was cool ab him
Which Oda was more involved in compared to the previous
Tbf I think season 1 was more testing the waters anyways
did zoro also make that one face in wano?
Season 2 and 3 they can push hard cuz they know the vibe
Yeah but he has a separate scene where he almost chokes
Im still of the belief LA is just oda's own version of "i kinda wanna rewrite the early stuff but I dont wanna make a whole ass manga"
Supposedly in interview the directors and people pretty much vet almost everything through Oda
I really doubt he's that involved tbh, he doesn't have the time for all that
I think its more ideas exchanged and stuff
we know he goes over the general direction at least
he’s probably happy they get to include stuff he didn’t get to at the start or only added later
Does he?
That'd be kinda funny
"I had to put in a bad guy for the sake of this arc but honestly fuck him. Give it to Mihawk"
That cover page awoke something in me
Like a sleeper agent
It all came flooding back
I can’t look at rabbits anymore
worst cover page in a long time
Best
Agree
Vain noooo
I don’t get what people see in carrot man
Don't look
Top 8 for a reason
She's fun and silly
garuchu
That’s it?
truth nuke
Facts, this is entertainment after all
Joyboy and Lili had sandwiches at the park
It could be , but maybe it’s a metaphor for abundance , who knows
But there has to be a reason there’s so few of them and no new ones are being created (I know oda as author can create more but in universe there’s no machine making new ones )
zou was odas furry phase, hes done now
they pulled him back with the cover request
also loki hybrid form gonna be diabolical
thats bcs of the hidden easter egg
bots
It’s too late
The ideas are already flowing into my head
Carrot? Walking on the ocean?
What else walks on the ocean
Zou
If Joyboy looks exactly like Luffy I’m flipping a table
I think the one behind Joyboy in the last chapter was Lily, not Imu
Luffy with red hair
Inaki with red hair*
just a hater
Bold to assume lili was ever with imu

we’ll never hear the end of it with @grand flower
luffy is a clone
He should look like Gaimon
clone piece is back
Don’t bring me up with them
carrot really did nothing wrong but oda decided he hated her in wano
I blame that weird editor who said weird things
that’s what she deserves
with who?
Carrot is way cooler than Jinbei but since the ten spots were filled she's gone 🙁
Illyasae
she really didn't deserve to be exiled to zou to do nothing
Yes you’ve somehow made it worse
LOL
You’re all good
Lmao
Hey
She uh
Stalled perospero...?
Thats her reward I guess?
she did
She got nothing
Oda is goated for that
Carrot losing to Perospero is a mid-arc low point for her
Yo.
thats why roger is superior lmao
Jinbe >>>>>>> Carrot
Am i hearing perospero slander.
The series also softens the blow by establishing that Carrot loses stamina when Sulong runs out
not really



