also-manga

[ashen perch]

yeah I agree

[leaden rivet]

Don’t think we ever need an op arc as long as Wano again

[stone terrace]

Very interesting translation choices

[ashen perch]

this is the official take on it

[hot cairn]

true

[ashen perch]

they dont use the arc term, just saga

[signal fiber]

Wano was like being tortured, a never ending bad arc

[leaden rivet]

If I say Wano is good enough I feel like I’ll eventually convert people

[hot cairn]

this is stupid, I don’t follow this

[ashen perch]

oh here's the more recent one, I just found it

the arc division there is just island based lol

[hot cairn]

this is even more stupid

[leaden rivet]

I honestly never thought Jaya and skypiea should’ve been separated anyway

[ashen perch]

hey go argue with Oda

[lofty fern]

Is that a Doffy boat?

[hot cairn]

those are not sagas

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/psyop-pink-psyop-trisha-trisha-code-trishacode-gif-6202741134209954377

[ashen perch]

its not wrong though Jesus

[sturdy steeple]

Give us his number

[ashen perch]

hey thats for me and Eiichiro only

[sturdy steeple]

What I don’t like about it is that for some reason W7/EL are separate arcs yet Wano and Onigashima aren’t.

[hot cairn]

Sharon thinks Elbaph will be

[sturdy steeple]

Makes no sense to me no matter how you twist it.

[hot cairn]

Wano is peak

[lofty fern]

Sorry, I'm too used to seperating them. It's just how things will be

[sturdy steeple]

Just make it one arc, lol. All of these arcs have one reoccurring villain.

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/chopper-one-piece-zoro-shocked-gif-23319100

[prisma yacht]

Summit war saga is the most packed one

[lofty fern]

It's like trying to make an American use the metric system as their everyday system....its nigh to impossible

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/DWalkn/status/2045452647088676976/photo/1

walk open commissions (@DWalkn)

i guess this is time to update this fanart

X · Apr 18, 2026, 10:41 AM

[hot cairn]

I get that it’s not perfect, but Wano’s highs are too high for me to hate on it

there’s only one bad chapter

the Kinemon one

[ashen perch]

East Blue
Alabasta
Sky Island
Water 7
Thriller Bark
Summit War
Fishman Island
Dressrosa
Zou
WCI
Wano
Egghead
Elbaf

Oda sees the story like this btw, CONFIRMED by the inversion theory

[hot cairn]

1030

[urban lodge]

That's like an insanely low low though

[hot cairn]

and that’s it

[sturdy steeple]

Wano is not that good btw

[hot cairn]

the arc is 149 chapters long

[urban lodge]

And there are definitely more bad ones

[royal orchid]

Enies Lobby isn't part of Water 7, Onigashima is part of Wano idk

[ashen perch]

1030 isnt even bad enough to be called an insanely low low, its ok. Pell was worse.

[hot cairn]

one bad chapter doesnt dictate everything

[prisma yacht]

Summit war without a war

[hot cairn]

true

[leaden rivet]

People hate Wano but act like Marineford is some legendary arc

[hot cairn]

Wano is peak

[leaden rivet]

It’s all insane to me

[ashen perch]

Marineford and Wano are both not top 5

[sturdy steeple]

Territorially? That’s so lame to think about it that way

[prisma yacht]

Marineford is legendary tho

[urban lodge]

Whitebeard is just that goated

[hot cairn]

[leaden rivet]

Marineford is not that good

[sturdy steeple]

It’s a different island whatsoever

[prisma yacht]

Wb is pinnacle of aura farming

[hot cairn]

okay hold on now

acting like two greats can’t coexist

[red lagoon]

Marineford was fucking cold

[hot cairn]

we don’t need to bring down Marineford to upscale Wano

[ashen perch]

I think I'd rate Marineford higher than Wano, but mainly because I think it gets everything that its meant to do right. You cannot really compare it with others, its one of its kind.

[red lagoon]

Wano has better peaks imo but marineford better overall

[leaden rivet]

Marineford ain’t great

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves

[stone terrace]

The w7 saga and the wano saga have the same structure basically

[red lagoon]

Ur opinion

[leaden rivet]

Well no shit

[red lagoon]

It’s a bad opinion but it’s urs

[ashen perch]

Like a criticism thats become common now is the clash piece thing and like... I wouldnt have it any other way lol. It wouldnt make any sense for it to be any other way.

[stone terrace]

So i agree they should be the same

Split wano into onigashima and wano

[distant vine]

I like Wano more

[sturdy steeple]

Oden really carries Wano for me

[hot cairn]

what even is clash piece fr

[red lagoon]

When the character just clash without proper fighting

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-tashigi-julia-rehwald-one-piece-huh-gif-6370527748814840709

[distant vine]

Characters fighting through clashes instead of a full complete fight

[hot cairn]

buddy reacted on his own message

[prisma yacht]

Oh thanks

[dense rapids]

Hear me out

Nerona Maximus (MaxIMUs)

[red lagoon]

Like in elbaf

[leaden rivet]

Oden and his cosplayer are probably the worst parts of Wano to me

[ashen perch]

oh yknow, Marineford didnt have fights, it had brief altercations, that basically

[red lagoon]

We see rocks and harald clash like 3 times

Never a real fight

[hot cairn]

Oden is great

[urban lodge]

Oden is fantastic

[red lagoon]

We saw Garp and Roger clash too

[urban lodge]

Yamato isn't

[stone terrace]

Yea marineford is clash piece but that was fine given the circumstances

We dont want a full fight of izo vs dalmatian

[sturdy steeple]

Clash piece for MF is justified
This war had too many prominent characters lol

[prisma yacht]

Yamato is amazing

[ashen perch]

I cant think of many instances of clash piece that have actually bothered me

[hot cairn]

I see

[red lagoon]

I only wish in gv we saw a lil more

[hot cairn]

same

[distant vine]

It worked for Marineford but I definetly dont regard it highly as a war arc because of that

Which is fine, it has other things going for it anyways

[ashen perch]

eh flashback fights are never long, that was like the longest ever fight for a flashback too lol

[glacial bear]

THE FUCK YOU SAY TO ME 😤

[red lagoon]

You can’t blame a man for wanting more still😔

[hot cairn]

Oda doesnt do fights in flashbacks

[ashen perch]

the anime will expand on it

[red lagoon]

True

[ashen perch]

it will be fine

[red lagoon]

In like 10 years we’ll see

[hot cairn]

but yeah, Wano and Marineford are both peak

[ashen perch]

also I disagree indi

[red lagoon]

Fax

My favourites arc is SABAODY

[ashen perch]

It worked extremely well for Marineford, like its difficult for me to imagine the arc without clash piece

[distant vine]

Maybe when I read Marineford I'll like it as a war arc more

[sturdy steeple]

I mean

I can kind of understand that

[distant vine]

Well the wider story sure, but as the Marineford War I come out of it thinking its just okay

[ashen perch]

the arc is great because its this uncontrollable chaos that Luffy's been thrown into all of a sudden

[red lagoon]

Oda was also Saving alot of the characters powers in marineford

[wraith mantle]

imu vs zoro and sanji

[ashen perch]

you havent ever read it indi? that makes sense

[sturdy steeple]

MF has casualties but mostly it feels like all of the characters weren’t taking each other seriously. Like most of them survived, no shit given.

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-fan-letter-one-piece-fan-letter-marineford-marineford-arc-gif-17902965889289463241

[sturdy steeple]

Curiel was submerged into Akainu’s magma and he still survived.

[ashen perch]

the anime drags it, and you dont get what Oda's going for with it actually

[stone terrace]

Fanletter did a better job than the manga itself at showing how hectic marineford is

[red lagoon]

I love marineford in the anime still

[ashen perch]

the anime is just too slow for the rapid pace that Oda chooses for the arc

[red lagoon]

I only watched it in The anime

[red lagoon]

Fan letter

Is so

[sturdy steeple]

The anime was fine imo

[ashen perch]

no it didnt

[red lagoon]

Fucking peak

[sturdy steeple]

This arc particularly

[stone terrace]

Cope

[hot cairn]

the anime adaptation of Marineford is dogshit

[urban lodge]

Fan letter is better than any canon episode

[ashen perch]

the anime was unwatchable for me once I read Marineford

[hot cairn]

they really ruined that arc

[red lagoon]

What

The anime was fine for me until dressrossa

Man I fucking love fan letter

[ashen perch]

the anime stops being fine by like Alabasta ill be real

[iron oriole]

Fan letter is the perfect love letter

[wraith mantle]

fr?

[red lagoon]

How come

[distant vine]

Honestly its thanks to this server that I remember anything about Marineford not centered around Luffy, Ace, Whitebeard and the Doffy speech

[hot cairn]

yes

[distant vine]

[hot cairn]

it’s dragged to hell

[wraith mantle]

maybe its time to read marineford

[sturdy steeple]

Alabasta is the only arc I was like “stop fucking dragging pleaseeee”

[red lagoon]

I thought marineford wa ms amazing

[ashen perch]

once you have the manga to compare it to, everything feels like a slog in the anime

[red lagoon]

Was

[sturdy steeple]

Even Dressrosa felt less like that for me

[hot cairn]

people think the anime’s dragging came in Dressrosa

but it came after Alabasta

[stone terrace]

Marineford is a short read

[sturdy steeple]

It came right when Alabasta aired LOL

[red lagoon]

The anime was fine until dressrossa for me

[thick maple]

Uhh

!rmd list

[sturdy steeple]

Do you guys not remember the bomb shit

[thick maple]

Oh yea

[red lagoon]

I had to start reading the manga for non fights during dressrossa

It was too much

[sturdy steeple]

Well, anyways, certain arcs were fine, certain arcs were meh.

[ashen perch]

Alabasta was the first time I felt that the show was slow and I hadnt even read the manga yet, so its only gotten worse for me since then

[hot cairn]

yep

[iron oriole]

The longest 10 minutes in anime history

[hot cairn]

the anime is just awful in general

[ashen perch]

Skypiea is also quite famously pretty slow, literally singlehandedly ruined the reputation of the arc

[hot cairn]

wit piece save us

[sturdy steeple]

Exactly

[distant vine]

Skypiea was the first arc that dragged for me but I'll see if that's Toei or Oda's fault soon enough

[leaden rivet]

Skypiea I think is probably where most people dropped one piece

[red lagoon]

One piece just need that pacing fix

[distant vine]

[hot cairn]

it’s toei

[ashen perch]

oh dont even get me started on Foxy and all the shit that people believed was canon 😭

[iron oriole]

I still frequently rewatch the anime

[ashen perch]

when its a fairly quick fun arc in the manga

[hot cairn]

Skypiea in the manga is a breeze

[urban lodge]

Omgggg it's so bad

[red lagoon]

I’ve watched it twice

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shakky-shakky-one-piece-shakuyaku-shakuyaku-one-piece-gif-5185197243883976799

[red lagoon]

And I watch parts with my friend who’s watching it for the first time

[iron oriole]

Only twice?

[leaden rivet]

I’ve never had such an unpleasant time as I did watching skypiea

[distant vine]

Generational PR damage to LRLL cause of Toei

[leaden rivet]

Goodness was that bad

[hot cairn]

I was so confused when people were talking about some roller skates during that arc lol

[urban lodge]

Toei really thought it would be a good idea to make LRLL TWICE as long

[ashen perch]

yeahh

[sturdy steeple]

I actually disagree about Skypiea being slow because it doesn’t apply to the whole arc. The slow segment is that trial with a ball guy

[red lagoon]

Yo

[wraith mantle]

i enjoyed lrll anime

[red lagoon]

I’m not even joking

[iron oriole]

It was a good idea

[distant vine]

When I watched the anime I skipped filler episodes so trying to skip around all the filler they sewed in was a mess

[stone terrace]

If you thought skypiea is slow you might genuinely be a cocomelon baby

[wraith mantle]

it was a nice change of pace

[sturdy steeple]

Other than that - it was cool

[red lagoon]

I stil don’t get the lrll hate

[iron oriole]

LRLL was great

[red lagoon]

I liked it

[ashen perch]

just brilliant minds at work there

[distant vine]

I only watched the canon games and they were great

[red lagoon]

Niggas is really split on ts fr😭😭

Half sayin ts ass saying they acc liked it fr

[ashen perch]

LRLL is great in the manga

[wraith mantle]

me too ig? i was religious about not watching filler

[sturdy steeple]

I’m not gonna lie
People that don’t like Skypiea in anime usually don’t really like it in the manga. I don’t think anime really is the problem here, lol.

[hot cairn]

wit piece save us

[ashen perch]

everything is great in the manga fr

[red lagoon]

Same

[hot cairn]

we need that remake

[distant vine]

I feel like I used to be alone in defending LRLL. I'm glad more people are coming to my side

[red lagoon]

I only watched the canon bits

I enjoyed foxy

[iron oriole]

I always liked LRLL

Afro Luffy is peak

[wraith mantle]

i didnt enjoy foxy per se, but i enjoyed the games

[red lagoon]

Then when I got into the online community I found out ppl hated I was confused

[grand flower]

This like saying Angelina Jolie the least bad bitch in the room

[sturdy steeple]

The greatest arc for both anime and manga is Drum Island. I rest my case.

[grand flower]

Hit a tire with a sledgehammer too

[red lagoon]

Saboady archipelago best arc

[prisma yacht]

Thats too particular

[ashen perch]

Sabaody is pretty good in the anime

[prisma yacht]

[ashen perch]

like even after reading the manga, I thought the anime did that pretty well

[iron oriole]

G8 best arc

[red lagoon]

SABAODY was the start of the generational run

[wraith mantle]

sabaody and water 7 are great in the anime

[grand flower]

Also you know Yamato completely flew over someone’s head when they call him just a cosplayer

[hot cairn]

I’m of the opinion that there’s no such thing as a good arc in the anime

[sturdy steeple]

Imagine having to rewatch Bakura Town in anime. Couldn’t be me hahahahah………

[wraith mantle]

egghead is also good in the anime

[grand flower]

The tire thing?

[red lagoon]

Damn u strict fr😭

[grand flower]

Some gyms have em

[prisma yacht]

Ueah

[hot cairn]

[prisma yacht]

I see

[ashen perch]

Water 7 in the manga is just so good that the anime kind of doesnt even compare

[leaden rivet]

Sabaody, Wano and Alabasta are great

[grand flower]

Bigger gyms will have tires and hammers you can use

[hot cairn]

yep

[leaden rivet]

Also WCI

[hot cairn]

Dressrosa and WCI too

[ashen perch]

Oda was at his peak art and presentation wise there, carrying on from Skypiea

[distant vine]

The moment OP went to HD and 16:9 syncing up with when it becomes good again (after Skypiea) was really nice to see

[leaden rivet]

Alabasta is a little worse in the show

[red lagoon]

I never read one piece pre dresrossa

[grand flower]

You CAN use it without a tire but that’s going to be much harder @prisma yacht that’s what I do and you really feel it in your forearms

[odd rune]

i LIKE long ring long land

[rose rune]

it would tire me out

[prisma yacht]

Yeah I have seen them but never saw anyone using it they usually sit on the tire tho lmao

[red lagoon]

The lrll enjoyers are here

[hot cairn]

damn you really hate bakura town

[sturdy steeple]

I mean, I don’t think it was bad but they really dragged out of Alabasta in the end.

[grand flower]

Nice

[leaden rivet]

LRLL enjoyers are genuinely just trying to be different

[prisma yacht]

Oo bet

[red lagoon]

That shit was enjoyable

[grand flower]

Lmao flipping the tire will probably help with that too if you do it a particular way

[red lagoon]

I don’t get the hate for I

It

[leaden rivet]

Yeah alright

[odd rune]

I still like how they added more of ace to alabasta

good change

[ashen perch]

I think Wano anime's like, last 15 or so episodes + some other episodes here and there are some of the anime's greatest peaks ever but most of the time, its just not good

[sturdy steeple]

And Wano is good when you pass Bakura Town. I’m dying here watching Urashima

[prisma yacht]

Like doing a deadlift

[leaden rivet]

I think if you cut Yamato Wano would rise up in everyone’s ranks that and if you shorten it a bit

[prisma yacht]

But flipping it over

[hot cairn]

current Oda wouldn’t have made the Bakura town segment in Wano

[leaden rivet]

I’m so disappointed that people don’t love it like I do

[prisma yacht]

I love yamato

I love wano

I love everything about wano

[odd rune]

im rewatching the whole series rn with a friend, in the anime, with no one pace, and wano is genuinely D tier pacing, with the only thing worse being whole cake island which is genuinely abysmal pacing

[hot cairn]

me too man, Wano is so good

[iron oriole]

Same & Elbaf

[wraith mantle]

you probably would enjoy LRLL if you watched it at a young age

if you a grown ass adult it would probably feel silly af

[red lagoon]

Cut Yamato?’vb

[red lagoon]

Yee true

[hot cairn]

Dressrosa is worse than both

[odd rune]

Plus a lot of the animation just doesnt do it for me. i still hate the dragon ball fights

[red lagoon]

I was like 15 I think

[distant vine]

Thats dumb frankly

[odd rune]

Whole cake pacing is worse man

[sturdy steeple]

I don’t think I have a character I actively dislike.
Or so I thought until I had to watch Urashima moving his hands slowly again for 10 minutes

[ashen perch]

yeahhh I watched some of it with a friend recently and while he didnt mind it at all as a first time viewer, I was suffering lol

[red lagoon]

It’s not dumb

[odd rune]

Dressrosa is bad but WCI takes the cake

[distant vine]

LRLL childish but the rest of OP gets a pass?

[wraith mantle]

not really, its very smart and nuanced

[iron oriole]

I've been waiting for Elbaf for so long that nothing could make it bad to me, even before it started it was top 1 arc

[distant vine]

😭

[red lagoon]

U forget one piece still a shonen which is aimed for teens

There’s gonna be moments that are more childish than the rest

[wraith mantle]

LRLL is exceptionally childish

[odd rune]

insane. i just CANT be the "ooooh in the manga" guy either

[distant vine]

I didnt forget that.

[odd rune]

like i cant be that

[hot cairn]

nah man Dressrosa genuinely had half a chapter for one episode

[odd rune]

i refuse

[distant vine]

No its not

[prisma yacht]

Lrll is really nice tho

[wraith mantle]

yes it is

[rose rune]

there we go. found the picture

[red lagoon]

They can never make me hate lrll

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/big-rubber-tire-kids-hit-gif-11862873

[wraith mantle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kocham-cie-4

[ashen perch]

yeah I made sure to not say anything because he adores the anime 😭 , and I guess good for him and all that

but its not good for me

[odd rune]

we just ended watching for the day at this moment. and i keep the chapters up on my second monitor while we watch because sometimes he asks for the panels from the manga

[urban lodge]

Dressrosa not only was terribly paced but had some of the worst animation too, iirc Toei was working on a Dragon Ball movie at the time

[odd rune]

this moment

in the anime

is so

terrible

its insanely bad

[sturdy steeple]

Dressrosa adapts less per episode but Dressrosa has one particular benefit. It’s chaotic as fuck so it moves to one thing from another.

[distant vine]

I wouldnt be able to take seriously someone saying LRLL is childish but the rest is mature enough for them

[prisma yacht]

Tackling this shit head on might build me some insane strength what do you guys think 🫪

[dense haven]

the colosseum is the worst part of one piece

[odd rune]

whole cake just feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeells worse

[prisma yacht]

What!?

It has haj

[sturdy steeple]

WCI is worse 100%

[prisma yacht]

Its peak

[sturdy steeple]

Just rewatched it so yeah

[odd rune]

yeah same keeper recently

[dense haven]

and the grand fleet is the worst secondary cast

[wraith mantle]

worse than fishmen island?

[urban lodge]

I only felt the pacing was really bad during the forest part

[odd rune]

they seriously nail some moments

[ashen perch]

Acts 1 and 2 were mostly PAINFULLY slow, Oden's flashback is good but still slow. 90% of Onigashima is also just too slow.

Its weird because Onigashima does benefit from extending stuff a little bit, but Toei naturally just goes too far with it

[red lagoon]

Wano pacing ass

[hot cairn]

nah you’re tweaking

[sturdy steeple]

They had a good start and good last episodes

But in between is just so dragged man

[hot cairn]

Dressrosa cast is immaculate

[barren token]

wait dressrosa is so fucking goated

good shout

[red lagoon]

Man they extending the wrong things

[prisma yacht]

Ok u guys are talking about anime

[barren token]

wait we all love dressrosa

[red lagoon]

It’s cool

[wraith mantle]

love how no one mentions thriller bark

[hot cairn]

me too

[barren token]

wait I just thought about dresrosa and got chills

[red lagoon]

But I can’t say I love dressrossa when it’s the arc that made me read the manga

[iron oriole]

Because its perfect

Whats to mention?

[distant vine]

Most painful 10/10 arc ever

[wraith mantle]

TB is not great but not bad either, just absolutely MID

[odd rune]

the colosseum is fun especially because of how fast it can go by when you read in a chunk

[red lagoon]

Ye mid

I don’t hate it

[odd rune]

weekly it would have made me a bit sleepy i reckon

[red lagoon]

It made me laugh

And the ending was fire

[barren token]

Dressrosa might be top 1 despite it's dog shit villain gallery

[red lagoon]

Fish man island tho

Man

[hot cairn]

I’m glad I read Dressrosa on a binge ngl

[wraith mantle]

top 1 arc?

[dense haven]

kinda crazy how hajrudin is gonna be the worst side character in two separate arcs

[distant vine]

[hot cairn]

it’s one of my favorite arcs

[wraith mantle]

niggas here really wanna stand out

[barren token]

top 1 period

[dark nymph]

Toei making Luffy's King Kong Gun a clash made me drop the anime, I was watching it weekly alongside the manga since the Sabo reveal

[red lagoon]

How can it be top 1 when SABAODY exists

[distant vine]

Thats what you focus on?!

[ashen perch]

Dressrosa is top 5

[odd rune]

i couldnt imagine being spicecowboy and just being wrong constantly and having to live like that because who actually dislikes hajrudin

[red lagoon]

Man I love SABAODY

[iron oriole]

Brook introduction
Zombie Luffy
Raid battle vs Oars
Oda foreshadowed Fortnite
Ryuma
Ofc Nothing Happened...
Thriller Bark was great

[odd rune]

ridiculous

[dense haven]

kuro fan btw

[ashen perch]

also dogshit??!??!

[wraith mantle]

wdym

[barren token]

Wait kuro is so tuff good shout spice

[red lagoon]

It had its highs but it also had its lows

[barren token]

Kuro might be top 1

[red lagoon]

Like absalom…

[leaden rivet]

Dressrosa has a lot of mediocre and slow parts but Doffy is so good he makes up for a lot of it

[odd rune]

luffy vs kuro fight in the anime went hard

[distant vine]

He's slandering a top 3 villian cast, the Donquioxte Pirates

[wraith mantle]

brook introduction was so funny in the anime lol

[urban lodge]

Honestly I don't mind the colosseum

It was fun

[barren token]

The donquioxte pirates just have too many stinkers

[ashen perch]

Doflamingo is the greatest btw, the rest are pretty decent, nothing crazy

[red lagoon]

Like who

Better not say Lao G

[urban lodge]

The Donquixote family is soooooo ass

[hot cairn]

the colosseum was super fun

[barren token]

Any villain group with machvise

is like

[red lagoon]

Lao g the fucking Goat

[barren token]

I mean

[red lagoon]

G

[ashen perch]

Machvise is fine

[barren token]

how do you come back from Machvise

[hot cairn]

false

[distant vine]

Machvise is good

[red lagoon]

H just alright

[prisma yacht]

Never seen no top tier take on machivise

[distant vine]

He's better than Ms Valentine

[ashen perch]

this is just fatphobia I am gonna be real

[prisma yacht]

But my goat haj did

[distant vine]

Boin!

[wraith mantle]

nigga i aint defending trebol and diamante ad pica

[prisma yacht]

That's why he is the goat

[red lagoon]

I hate Trebol

[prisma yacht]

The mvp

[iron oriole]

Absalom indirectly gave us this so W

[distant vine]

Trebol is good

[leaden rivet]

I just don’t like how Trebol looks

[ashen perch]

Machvise is kinda funny to me

[distant vine]

Diamante is good

[leaden rivet]

I can’t like a character that ugly

[distant vine]

Pica is good

[red lagoon]

Nah I hate trebol

[odd rune]

well maybe if he didnt weigh 10,000 tons

[urban lodge]

There are like 3 good Donquixote family members and one of them is Baby 5 who betrays them

[barren token]

wait

[iron oriole]

I fucking hate Trebol

[prisma yacht]

I hate diamante more than trebol

[barren token]

valentine is hot though

[prisma yacht]

I hate his guts

[hot cairn]

Trebol is disgusting

[distant vine]

So?

[wraith mantle]

real machi is too fat

[iron oriole]

No hate to the VA but that constant "hey hey" pissed me off so much

[hot cairn]

and annoying

[wraith mantle]

put on a shirt nigga

[grand flower]

Fantastic character

[barren token]

so?

[red lagoon]

Trebol pissed me off every time he spoke

[hot cairn]

which arc has the worst cast?

[wraith mantle]

sugar was a cool villain

[distant vine]

One Piece fans trying to say a character being ugly and annoying is beyond the pale for them LMAOOOOO

[ashen perch]

Vergo, Monet, Sugar, Trebol and Diamante are good. Machvise, Lao G, Gladius, Baby 5, Buffalo are pretty funny

[wraith mantle]

baby 5 too

[sturdy steeple]

“hEY HeY DoFfYyYyYyy”

[grand flower]

Yeah actually. Flicking your wrist during the peak of the flip might help. Or break em

[wraith mantle]

vergo and monet too

[sturdy steeple]

Monet is top tier villain

[odd rune]

the only two characters to genuinely just grate my ears with their voice were ryuboshi and trebol

absolutely

terrible

awful

[hot cairn]

lmao I hated that shit

[red lagoon]

Op cast too goated

[prisma yacht]

So a do or die situation

[sturdy steeple]

I found it hilarious personally but fair enough lol

[red lagoon]

Fmi has the worst cast tho

[grand flower]

Ryuboshi?

[barren token]

?? he literlly is ugly and annoying

[grand flower]

Death is just weakness leaving the body

[odd rune]

dont mention his name you are triggering me

[ashen perch]

Shirahoshi Brother no.2

[barren token]

wait I need to vote good shout

[hot cairn]

I agree

[sturdy steeple]

Do you just say good shout all the time now

[hot cairn]

so many forgettable characters

[red lagoon]

I thought it was hard but that’s cause I try to forget fmi

[hot cairn]

in FMI

[light latch]

Hi

[red lagoon]

Sanji was NOT

On fmi

[distant vine]

Yeah but tons of characters are like that. Its a feature of the manga

[light latch]

What are u talking about?

[sturdy steeple]

Oh shit, you reminded me, I have to pay taxes good shout

[barren token]

remember to vote Gerd Herd!

[red lagoon]

Hah no fingers

[prisma yacht]

🐐🐐🔥

[ashen perch]

Fukaboshi and Shirahoshi are great. The New Fishman Pirates are whatever, Zeo is funny, Hody is decent. Pappagu is also funny

[distant vine]

Skypiea might actually have the worst lol

[odd rune]

fukaboshi is great

love fukaboshi

[ashen perch]

Jinbe, Otohime and FT are great ofc

[odd rune]

manboshi whatever

[red lagoon]

Fmi worst

[barren token]

Yeah but machvise isn't funny or charming in his ugliness he's just ugly and annoying

[odd rune]

ryuboshi..................................................

kill

kill

[ashen perch]

Idk, I like the FMI cast

[light latch]

There's ppl who actually likes fishman island arc?

damn

[wraith mantle]

this is a good question actually

which arc has the best villain cast?

i wanna say elbaf or egghead

[prisma yacht]

Yes

[hot cairn]

what do you think of what happened to Gerd this chapter Cunk

[barren token]

cunt

[distant vine]

Dressrosa

[ashen perch]

Water 7

[odd rune]

elbaf has sommers so it has to be elbaf

[red lagoon]

enies lobby or wano

Idc I love kaido and big mom

[distant vine]

Wyper glaze makes my eye twitch to this day

[prisma yacht]

Its a cool chill arc after gut wrenching summit war saga

[ashen perch]

well, main antagonist aside in Water 7. Lucci feels like a goon more than a main villain lol

[hot cairn]

it’s the worst cast post time skip

[barren token]

You actually make me sick to my stomach I can't lie

[proud pivot]

Hello chat

[light latch]

Big mom was something crazy

i love her

[proud pivot]

Ore wa sai

[hot cairn]

????????

[iron oriole]

Honestly... either Alabasta or W7/EL if i had to pick rn

[light latch]

she scared me af

[distant vine]

You did it first today to me

[formal wagon]

watch it

[distant vine]

[ashen perch]

oh

[light latch]

when she was singning at the begining of his arc

whole cake

[sturdy steeple]

Welp

[hot cairn]

Wyper is goated tho

[ashen perch]

its true sadly

[light latch]

and that scene on elbaph

damn

[odd rune]

wow i love that art of gaban

[formal wagon]

tmi

[light latch]

she was something serius

[odd rune]

can you guys believe that it's 2026 and scopper gaban is actually fucking relevant in the series

what world do we live in

[red lagoon]

They can never make me hate you kaido

[ashen perch]

I cant take that Gaban art seriously because all I can see is somebody's feet on there

is it just me

[sturdy steeple]

Arsal

[stone terrace]

Perhaps the most believable thing ever

[sturdy steeple]

You’re doing that to yourself

[formal wagon]

💀 feet arsal feet

[barren token]

can we not talk about fingering here anymore in 2026

[odd rune]

it writes itself really

[ashen perch]

does it not look like somebody is running in front of him and its reflecting on his glasses???

[red lagoon]

Arsal the feet finder

[formal wagon]

arsal "feet" wise

[sturdy steeple]

Like I haven’t even thought about it

[light latch]

for a sec i forgot who was him

[ashen perch]

come on it does look like that 😭

[sturdy steeple]

And you just see “ohhhh feet”

[red lagoon]

I didnt even notice it

[prisma yacht]

Year of feets

[alpine trench]

Something something jokes something something writing themselves

[red lagoon]

Till u said it

[light latch]

me too

i like his style

[red lagoon]

Nigga got the feet sense

[sturdy steeple]

Is that Gerd btw?

[grand flower]

Oh sorry. This Ryuboshi guy must be insane

[light latch]

that old cool man

[hot cairn]

it’s from one of the best color spreads

[grand flower]

The fat one?

[ashen perch]

those are somebody's legs and feet

[sturdy steeple]

Wait no that could be Gunko

[light latch]

right?

Gaban and Loki

[dark nymph]

he just like me fr

[red lagoon]

Oh u got ultra feet vision

[light latch]

i cant wait to see loki animated

[hot cairn]

remember when people said he wasn’t showing up

[grand flower]

Still Oda’s best villain

[ashen perch]

dude

[hot cairn]

Or that it was Shiki

[barren token]

it looks like this

could be a guy stabbing somebody

[sturdy steeple]

Wait are you not talking about THIS????

[ashen perch]

yeah

[light latch]

uhmmmm

idk

[sturdy steeple]

Bro you noticed FEET in his EYES????

[hot cairn]

ofc YOU do

[ashen perch]

no I meant on the glasses

[red lagoon]

That’s what I thought he meant

LMAOOO

THATS WORSE

[sturdy steeple]

HOW

[warm sierra]

[ashen perch]

fair point

[red lagoon]

LOOOO U GOT FEET SENSE FR

[barren token]

Kuro is right there....

[urban lodge]

Almost forgot to vote before the reset

[sturdy steeple]

Oh that’s Sanji’s foot

[odd rune]

what a beautiful gold border wasted on such a terrible character design

[urban lodge]

L

[light latch]

i feel that kurohige over kaido, not in strenght but in crazyness

[ashen perch]

I have only gotten one gold so far idk how you guys do it

[sturdy steeple]

That’s Luffy feet in Gaban’s glasses as a reflection

[ashen perch]

and I have voted daily smh

[red lagoon]

Tripping

[sturdy steeple]

Ok so like

[urban lodge]

This is my 14th lmao

[stone terrace]

I havent voted since march

[iron oriole]

I've got so many golds i stopped ss now

[ashen perch]

wait I AM RIGHT

[alpine trench]

Let Penny know

[ashen perch]

it is somebody's feet on his glasses smh

[iron oriole]

Its Luffys feet

[light latch]

damn i rlly love gaban´s desing

[red lagoon]

Arsal can sniff out a foot Ina 10 mile radius

[stone terrace]

Who invited nami bruh

[barren token]

You don't have enough love for the characters you vote for

[stone terrace]

Maybe if roger had WOMEN on his crew

[odd rune]

LMFAOOOOOOO

[red lagoon]

I HAVENT GOTTEN A GOLD ONCE

[odd rune]

the biggest plot twist

[barren token]

I was rewarded by the Shepard herself

[odd rune]

arsal actually right

[pulsar timber]

I had a gold imu

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji over here has lady radar but our beloved Arsal might have a feet radar

[prisma yacht]

This just means you have a thing for it. You're exceptionally great with this

[red lagoon]

Everytime…

I get

The basic

[ashen perch]

I got a gold Imu too, only gold yet

[odd rune]

i got a gold oden

[ashen perch]

golden...

[red lagoon]

Bruh

[prisma yacht]

I have garp gold

[urban lodge]

Not getting gold is a skill issue I'm afraid

[iron oriole]

Lol another one

[odd rune]

and a gold kokoro

[red lagoon]

Bro

[ashen perch]

only gold...

[red lagoon]

I haven’t even gotten the silver

[hot cairn]

damn

[iron oriole]

Thats like my 4th gold Tama

[red lagoon]

Niggas are getting gold tama

And even a silver sanji is too much

Man what the fuck

[dense rapids]

Nerona Maximus

[hot cairn]

what do you guys think of the cast of Elbaph?

[red lagoon]

GOLD KOKORO?

[urban lodge]

Best cast

[iron oriole]

W cast

[red lagoon]

Fucking goated

[red lagoon]

Ok

[prisma yacht]

My gold garp

[red lagoon]

Niggas fr flexing

[odd rune]

snaji is third place so he doesnt get silver

[prisma yacht]

Hehe

[red lagoon]

💔

[iron oriole]

The Holy Trinity

[pulsar timber]

Like the side characters ?

[red lagoon]

Bro

[ashen perch]

needs more focus on the giants but I like it

[hot cairn]

yeah

[red lagoon]

What the fuck

[pulsar timber]

They’re cool

[barren token]

the bronze sanji border

[sturdy steeple]

I only had a golden Sanji so far

[hot cairn]

Loki is getting plenty of focus

[alpine trench]

I haven’t voted a single time and now I don’t really care to

[pulsar timber]

Rip Gerd fingers

[hot cairn]

I only voted once the first day and never have again

[red lagoon]

I vote twice and still haven’t even gotten a silver sanji

[urban lodge]

The forest god will grow her new fingertips

[barren token]

how will we play the piano together now....

[ashen perch]

I mean aside from him and Harald lol

[iron oriole]

I got good RNG

[hot cairn]

ah

I think it’s fine

[prisma yacht]

But if someone asked you to vote wld you?

[icy wolf]

bro did hajuridns face just get blown off

this is kinda hard to read

[odd rune]

I'm only lucky for things that don't matter like getting dumbass gold borders

[urban lodge]

That's Zoro on the left

[odd rune]

Why can't I just win the slaps

[icy wolf]

the panel on the right looks like half his face got taken off

[mighty roost]

finally got a gold :D

[red lagoon]

Bro what

[alpine trench]

Nah

[urban lodge]

I'm sorry that happened to you

[pulsar timber]

As a whole or the semi important ones. I like the little bit we got for road, jarul got some stuff and Hajrudin is obviously gonna get something massive. I don’t expect much more for gerd stansen or goldberg though but they’re fine and likeable enough

[red lagoon]

Is one gold too much to ask for

Is even a silver too much

[iron oriole]

Yes

[pulsar timber]

How do you get gold I’m confused. It just kinda happened to me

I’ve voted like 4 times

[urban lodge]

It's random

[red lagoon]

Bruh

[iron oriole]

I should try for a silver Rayleigh

[pulsar timber]

I see

[mighty roost]

buddy i voted like 60 times and this is my first gold

[odd rune]

If there was a one piece character named Jon Favreau would you vote

[vital heart]

JESUS HARSH IM 21 NOW

[alpine trench]

Yes

Happy birthday meek

[prisma yacht]

I have pookie biblu

[alpine trench]

I didn’t yet read the chapter so I’m gonna be out of here before I get blindsided

[prisma yacht]

See you tmr

[pulsar timber]

The one piece chapter contains elements pertaining to the famous series called one piece

Beware!

[hot cairn]

happy birthday meek

[ashen perch]

Hajrudin could be getting a lot more though, even in the Harald flashback he was barely there. Dorry and Brogy's role has been lesser than I expected too... I dont mind it too much though, its not a big deal, but still I was hoping for more, including a flashback for them lol

[lofty fern]

You know what, I just realized that Loki is trying to sound cool here, but his statement has a giant problem with it. He's talking like Imu could have always found him on Elbaph if he was looking for Harald's killer, and YET---Loki immediately left Elbaph after Harald's death, and stayed off for 8 years and the ONLY reason he's back now is because Shanks made him come back. So even if Imu had come looking for him. Loki would have probably not been there 😆

[urban lodge]

Hajrudin will get more

Jarul just needs to die first so he can get Harald's sword

[prisma yacht]

He deserves more

[odd rune]

oooh look at him... poor jon favreau... nobody votes for poor jon favreau...

[ashen perch]

oh yeah thats what I am thinking, hope he's not injured too bad

[alpine trench]

That’s it I’m voting for this dude IMMEDIATELY

[lofty fern]

So young 🥳 🍰

[ashen perch]

I think Imu's going to behead Jarul, and we're going to let a little moment where Hajrudin pulls it out of the head and attacks Imu. Would be sick.

[alpine trench]

Anyone named Jon Favreau is getting my vote

[stone terrace]

Sommers maybe

Imu is far above his weight class

[hot cairn]

I don’t think anyone is dying here

[pulsar timber]

He was barely there because it was a Loki flashback when it wasn’t a rocks flashback. I think with the kingdom needing a king and it being his dream that Oda has hinted at throughout this arc, and him and Loki getting on better terms I think we will get major things in the present for him. Doffy and broggy I didn’t expect anything to be honest. Just a duo of cool giants

[hot cairn]

it’s OP fr

[odd rune]

Jon Favreau should play Sommers in the live action

holy shit could you imagine

[prisma yacht]

Haj needs acoc gungnir

[alpine trench]

Nah fr

[ashen perch]

nah Jarul is dead

[alpine trench]

HES GOT THE COMEDIC CHOPS

[ashen perch]

its fine, he doesnt need to be doing a lot

[hot cairn]

Imu didnt even acknowledge him this chapter

[lofty fern]

People have died before. Oda doesn't usually maim pretty girls either, and yet here we are

[hot cairn]

fair

[ashen perch]

he did ask who was their king lol

[lofty fern]

The only way Jarul dies is if he inserts himself into the fray

[hot cairn]

and then he left

[ashen perch]

Jarul is the answer, he's the de facto king.

[pulsar timber]

Sanji may become #1 in the polls after he gets cocting

[ashen perch]

Yes jesus, but we saw Jarul thinking to himself after Imu left

[iron oriole]

Which is weird to ask ngl, he knows there is no ruler of Elbaf

[urban lodge]

Sanji is already #1 in like 5 regions 😭

[ashen perch]

he knows that, he is seeking out the de-facto king Jarul

[pulsar timber]

I was thinking and my belief in cocji was wavering a bit but then I remembered how bizarre it would be if out of the monster trio and their parallels only one dude didn’t have coc

[ashen perch]

I think Jarul is going to reveal himself to Imu, and try to see if a sacrifice from him can satisfy Imu

[sturdy steeple]

I highly doubt that

[pulsar timber]

He’s super hot in half the regions right now

[sturdy steeple]

We’ll see the real top 5 soon and I doubt that Sanji is anywhere close to Luffy.

[lofty fern]

He did, but he already knows about Jarul and his position in the kingdom. And I think that was to confirm that Dorry and Broggy hadn't taken the spot as he commanded them. Also, Loki being Harald's son makes him more of a king now

[hot cairn]

mmm

[pulsar timber]

I don’t know the actual order though

[lofty fern]

He's been #1 already, bots are very strong

[sturdy steeple]

I think Sanji has the chance to take Zoro’s place but even so it’s still doubtful.

[hot cairn]

Sanji is def getting it

[pulsar timber]

Idk. Could be way closer than we think. Last poll happened before Sanji did anything cool during the raid. So now we have that and the anime and recent events to account for

[sturdy steeple]

Bots have nothing to do with super hot characters, lol.

[ashen perch]

Also, after arcs upon arcs of Oda hyping up the legendary pirating careers of Dorry and Brogy, I was just expecting more. We got some repeat of their legendary pasts being mentioned, but nothing much more unfortunately. Their time as Domi'd top soldiers of Imu was disappointingly short too.

[sturdy steeple]

That’s true but Wano ended like what, three years ago?

[ashen perch]

I think thats where Jarul steps in though, Imu's going to be fixated on Loki and Jarul is going to try to save him, resulting in his death

[odd rune]

ever notice how whether zoro will get conquerors was a huge debate but nobody cares if sanji gets it or not? this is a subtle nod to how nobody cares about sanji

[lofty fern]

Sanji has already taken Luffy's place in the polls, he's taken Zoro's place, he's been 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and 4th and everything else

[hot cairn]

I think you just overestimated Dorry and Broggy’s importantes Arsal

that’s all

[prisma yacht]

Muk

[urban lodge]

Uta top 1

[pulsar timber]

I see. I just saw that as like flowery world building. They have legends and what not but they just aren’t super important to this arc. It’s nice knowledge but he doesn’t fit when we have to explore Loki harald rocks and Gunko

[prisma yacht]

Hajs dream is to be the king of all giants not just elbaf

[sturdy steeple]

I think you ought to read how the current placements work. That’s not the actual top. That’s the super hot character of the week.

[lofty fern]

So you mean at the end?

[sturdy steeple]

It only shows characters that are trending compared to their last week.

[prisma yacht]

Him just getting to be the king of elbaf without major focus while the plot is active won't add much to it

[odd rune]

if its the super hot character of the week why isnt gerd #1 every week

[hot cairn]

Zoro getting conquerors used to get you ridiculouled for hours. Maybe people don’t care because everyone and their mama is getting conquerors lately so it’s not that rare?

[pulsar timber]

Huh. Not even a full 4 years yet. That doesn’t seem real

[pulsar timber]

I know

[ashen perch]

I mean the WG is here because of the reputation of the giants that they built before Loki was even born. It isnt really my fault for expecting more out of that.

[dense rapids]

Nerona Maximus

The Great Bridge Builder

[sturdy steeple]

Although not surprisingly Sanji got a rise of his fans in those three years.

[iron oriole]

Wano actually feels like it ended last week, i can still hear everyone upset about G5 & toon force

[pulsar timber]

He can still unify all of giant kind as king of elpah though. He will just also not be present in his own home. Like his father!

[ashen perch]

well they were fitting in pretty nicely as the posessed villains but then Oda unceremoniously abandoned that lol

[prisma yacht]

This is what I meant

[hot cairn]

fair enough but I don’t think they’re that relevant to the current events

[hot cairn]

Sanji fans on Twitter are now as annoying as Zoro fans on Twitter, who would’ve thought

[pulsar timber]

Becoming king of elbaph is just the start. Then he will sail out and create bridges wit other giant nations or groups

[ashen perch]

they could have been...

[pulsar timber]

Worth it for the gag where they pretended they didn’t want to kill their friends though

[lofty fern]

What I can see is, Imu knows who Jarul is. He knows who Dorry and Broggy are, he saw all of them in the village. He ignored them. I think if Jarul does die, it's going to not be because of the king factor but because he decides he's going to fight or he gets in the way of an attack

[lofty fern]

I don't think that's possible

[sturdy steeple]

For every action there is always a counter-action, sadly.

[hot cairn]

it is

[hot cairn]

true

[grand flower]

Had to vote for Elbaph’s main antagonist

[sturdy steeple]

I miss the times we were chill but it was all coming to that.

[ashen perch]

I think Imu's meant to get a temporary victory here atleast, for that to work, he should still be seeing Jarul as the de-facto king as he did before. He will claim his head and declare that the kingdom is his now, as he planned for Dorry and Brogy to do so.

[lofty fern]

Also, I don't think there's a 460 on here like people are saying there is 🤔

[sturdy steeple]

The toxicity of Zoro fans birthed the toxic Sanji fans to balance them out.

[grand flower]

Stop coping me

[hot cairn]

buddy’s stuck in 2022

[pulsar timber]

Zoro vs Sanji being heated again. All is right in the world

[grand flower]

I’m in 2028 reading Elbaph’s climax already

Lemme chill

[pulsar timber]

Shanks vs mihawk was going too long

[ashen perch]

I really dont think its a coincidence that the first line from Imu was about who the ruler of the land is

[hot cairn]

you need to stop coping first

[grand flower]

I just remembered Arsal was going bonkers yesterday

[hot cairn]

we won’t be in Elbaph in 2028

[ashen perch]

Shuron did you explain why you think the arc has like 95 chapters to go

I am curious

[hot cairn]

about what? The g5 thing?

that debate was looooong

[hot cairn]

he didn’t

[ashen perch]

also its literally the word the editors use....

[hot cairn]

I asked him

[grand flower]

Hella people joining the arc and lore because Elbaph backwards is Phable

I been saying this

Y’all think I’m joking

[ashen perch]

you can see it in the japanese, its literally a transliteration of climax

[hot cairn]

that’s all?

[grand flower]

And idk why I’m always dead serious

[hot cairn]

which people are joining

[grand flower]

I was born without a funny bone

[grand flower]

Revos at minimum

Big mom and kid

[sturdy steeple]

Is that a skull joke

Hahah good one

[ashen perch]

I agree that a lot of characters are joining though, which is why I dont believe its impossible

still unlikely though, I will put it at like, longer than Dressrosa

[opal gull]

Why will revos come to Elbaf

[urban lodge]

I think Sabo is a possibility, but all revos? Nah

[ashen perch]

@opal gull I explained it here

[ashen perch]

all revos

[lofty fern]

I think he said it earlier, Imu is efficient. He'd rather deal with one person than a whole people, which is why he emphasizes a king. If he can pull that one person in line, it will trickle down to everyone else below. It's like the idea of taking care of the alpha of a pack to get the whole pack in line

[hot cairn]

after hearing VP’s message they will go to Elbaph to find the Ohara books and investigate more. Dragon knows they’re at Elbaph

[pulsar timber]

The revos are in paradise right now why and how would they be in elbaf

Elbaf is one day after egghead

[ornate tartan]

the goroawase for “Nerona” is 267

Whitebeard died from 267 sword wounds

😂🔥

[hot cairn]

how do you think Elbaph has 45 chapters left then

[glacial bear]

COOK! 🔥🔥

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/big-mom-one-piece-brook-anime-prometheus-gif-19994779

[odd rune]

druken iron ore

[ashen perch]

Yeah we might need to reevaluate this. WB's height is 666 cm, the number of crewmates in his crew is 1616 (ImuImu)

[odd rune]

have you heard of wine steel?

[prisma yacht]

Him not getting a major moment in this arc while having such a big dream just doesn't feel right to me, how can you expect him to be such an important figure when he cldnt even outshine anyone when his kingdom was in need - this is the reason why I think he needs and hopefully soon gets a big moment (unlocking conqs 👀) apart from him getting to be the king of elbaf

[ornate tartan]

and let’s be honest, who else could be the greatest enemy of the strawhats other then the secret king of the world himself?

[ashen perch]

well the assumption was that its about the return of Rocks

[urban lodge]

I already told you

• 20 chapters of action
• 10 of cutaways
• 4-8 of Brook and Gunko flashback
• 10 of conclusion

[ornate tartan]

yea but rocks is dead

[ashen perch]

BM+Kaido

[ornate tartan]

I think that theory was better in the past

[ashen perch]

not Xebec himself

[hot cairn]

20 chapters of what action exactly? Also we’re not getting cutaways here

[thick maple]

Only has 13 chapters left

[pulsar timber]

I don’t think becoming king will be his only moment. Just the end of it for this arc.he will likely get something in battle during this climax

[hot cairn]

you’re cooked Arisu

[brittle basin]

4-8 for brook and gunko feels like too much. i'll take a chapter or two at most

[thick maple]

I'm not

[odd rune]

[pulsar timber]

We aren’t getting 10 chapters of cutaway unless it ends off the arc

[urban lodge]

Why is it too much? There is a lot to cover

We don't know literally anything about Brook's early years

[opal gull]

Well that makes sense, I kinda forgot about the fact that they might wanna get more info from VP and yeah Vivi reunion as well

[grand flower]

Yes(lying)

[brittle basin]

Because the Rocks flashback took up too much time, and I want to have faith in Oda to consolidate effectively.

[pulsar timber]

There isn’t that muc. It’s gunkos past and then whenever gunko “murders” his father. And bits and pieces of the inbetween

I can see it taking like 3-4 chapters at most

[grand flower]

For sure rihht @hot cairn like this is a good compromise we can agree on

[distant vine]

Btw I need Imu to one shot Loki

[opal gull]

But some dialogue before he does that

[grand flower]

@hot cairn @ashen perch oh it’s also because Elbaph was the very first major arc to be set up

[distant vine]

Sure

[opal gull]

Maybe Imu just tells everything

[slate merlin]

Impossible since Loki > Harald

[ashen perch]

It still makes sense though, BM + Kaido was the return of Rocks, they were the greatest enemies so far, and the lurking legend was the hidden tale of Rocks Pirates, which was connected to WB

But there's been quite a few links between WB and Imu that I have been noticing lately, its definitely something. Maybe Oda meant both lol

[distant vine]

Hell no LMAO

[ashen perch]

yeah thats fair

[urban lodge]

So we can spend 20 chapters on Rocks but 4-8 of a straw hat's flashback is too much? 8 used to be the standard length, and this is one of our main cast. I don't think it's asking for too much

[distant vine]

But I do think we're strapped in for a while

[lofty fern]

I'm giving it an even 20, We end at 1200

[ashen perch]

there's no way Tekking said this smh

[brittle basin]

it's too much because rocks took up too much time, yes. you can blame rocks. it's ok.

[distant vine]

Bonney will probably help fight one of the Holy Knights still

[pulsar timber]

Rocks didn’t take up enough time

[brittle basin]

Tekking says whatever I pay him to say

[ashen perch]

(I am kidding, I know its probably your own take )

[opal gull]

Will the revos arrive while Imu is still here?

[distant vine]

Revos arent coming

[ashen perch]

yeah

[odd rune]

god i havent heard of tekking in forever

is he still... like that...

[dark nymph]

goated? yes

[iron oriole]

Tekking is the GOAT

[hot cairn]

I think it’s still too much

[odd rune]

i can appreciate his autism more than other one piece youtubers thats for sure

[hot cairn]

I remember you told me that

[distant vine]

Once GLR accepted an AI chatbot sponsor I had to walk away

[ashen perch]

Buffy says that he gets all his opinions from Tekking so ask him, I dont even really watch him to know that

[odd rune]

autism said positively there

btw

[brittle basin]

i love rocks flashback, but it's long relatively speaking. and brook and gunko just seem like "eh, you know, don't need much from that. just give me what I need to know." hell, i'd erase brook and gunko's connection for a sanji-level WCI arc for Usopp right now.

[iron oriole]

bro managed to guess that the Sun God in the Lego World was Road because of his fucking boots

[brittle basin]

when tekking videos arrive that's when my opinion drops. plot twist though: i barely pay attention to those videos, it exists as background noise while i work.

[ashen perch]

last I saw Tekking, I liked him because he seemed genuine and human atleast, I like when you could tell a reviewer cares about the series

[urban lodge]

Oda taking his time with things is a good thing

We don't need to speedrun one thing because the other was long

[lofty fern]

I really don't think we get a settlement on the Brook Gunko thing. I think this arc was just to introduce it , to get Brook thinking and to eventually want to see Shuri again. Gunko on the other hand, even IF she wanted to leave Imu, she can't because of her contract. She has to obey him and he can find her anywhere in the world or kill her anywhere in the world. She can't just leave.
I think she says something to him, but continues with Imu and goes back to the holy land

[brittle basin]

in an ideal world, I would want him to take his time. this world ain't ideal and Oda is getting older. gg.

[prisma yacht]

Hell yeah acoc gungnir soon

[glacial bear]

Pretty much.

[dark nymph]

Just live longer

[urban lodge]

If he wants to make his story worse because of that that's up to him but I don't think that's the right approach

[glacial bear]

We need to fast forward to the Shepard Sommers arc already

[hot cairn]

the brook-Gunko flashback doesnt need to be 8 chapters long that’s too much

[lofty fern]

I think you can see that with quite a few OPtubers, they just like different aspect of the series in different ways

[brittle basin]

hell, he should've shortened the rocks flashback. each new flashback doesn't need to be longer and longer. he can't keep getting away with this

[ashen perch]

I think Oda will take his time, the setup is all evidently there for him to take his time with it. I feel like youre moreso hoping it is shorter ngl

[urban lodge]

8 chapters is not as long as you guys think it is

Robin's was 8

[brittle basin]

Rocks was 10?

[urban lodge]

I think Chopper's was 8

[glacial bear]

Ragnir flashback Arc following the Sommers arc

[brittle basin]

NO

[prisma yacht]

3-5 chapters considering oda's current pace

[pulsar timber]

Rocks flashback wasn’t long enough

[ashen perch]

it wont be 8, I imagine it will be like 4-5 and that will be sufficient

[hot cairn]

Yeah me too

[thick maple]

At one point yes

[lofty fern]

We've already seen Oda cut corners where he can, I can see him being concise

[glacial bear]

Elbaph will ONLY end AFTER the Biblio Arc is concluded

[urban lodge]

4-5 is fine, anything less would be awful

[ashen perch]

he wont cut any corners here, this is Brook's flashback II

[brittle basin]

What do we need to gather from the Gunko flashback? their relationship and why brook hates her even though we know it's misleading?

[urban lodge]

Brook's entire early years

[odd rune]

we dont even need a brook gunko flashback im ngl

[pulsar timber]

Pre timeskip strawhat flashbacks usually covered specific incidents or time periods of their life. We aren’t going thag for gunko as we need to see her as a kid and as an adult when her father is killed. It’ll be similar to kumas, but not as long because we aren’t covering 50 years of life

[brittle basin]

i don't care about his entire years

[urban lodge]

His relationship with the man he owes his life to

[glacial bear]

Flashback followed by 2 break weeks and a holiday week and onto another Flashback ARC

[prisma yacht]

3 is fine too

[pine ridge]

unless gunko joins the sh

[ashen perch]

well I do

[prisma yacht]

Considering oda doesn't reveal everything about gunko and imus relationship in this arc

[odd rune]

brook is arguably cooler as a long-lifed man that has been through it all and yet we hardly know what 'it' is

i like it that way im ngl

[pulsar timber]

We aren’t getting brooks early years

[thick maple]

Brook flashback after the arc 📈

[fringe escarp]

We need to know why IMU favors gunko

[brittle basin]

Long brook flashback in the Usopp land kill me

[pine ridge]

blue hair

[odd rune]

why do we need a brook gunko flashback

[glacial bear]

And it’ll start at the VERY BEGINNING. with BROOK’S CHILDHOOD!

[tidal ice]

Please put the non lore bits into sbs oda

[urban lodge]

I feel like I'm going insane

[brittle basin]

Giverhim the Kidd SBS treatment

[fringe escarp]

Because they’ve already set up a personal connection between the two??

[urban lodge]

You guys aren't real

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gangnam-style-gangnam-oppa-gangnam-style-danc-gif-5156314622067612837

[lofty fern]

I can still see it

[odd rune]

but why does that need a flashback

[prisma yacht]

TU TU TUUTUTURUT TUTUTU

[fringe escarp]

To get actual details on it and give that connection more depth

[odd rune]

you dont need a flashback to do that

[brittle basin]

A lot of things that are flashbacks can probably be explained with a few words. Like, Loki and Shanks? I don't need to see that, a simple explanation saves a lot of time.

[fringe escarp]

You don’t “need” a flashback to do anything by this logic

[urban lodge]

In this case you very clearly do because we have no context

[glacial bear]

We didn’t get Gaban’s flashback yet

[fringe escarp]

No need for a void century flashback just have Robin say it all out loud

[brittle basin]

kill gaban

[prisma yacht]

Yeah we gonna love it once it's revealed gunko's dad was rocks

[odd rune]

im just saying its not something we need so im not sure why people are expecting it and saying it needs to be eight chapters long or whatever

thats crazy

[prisma yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317083128099242014/1494082104844226712/1462474068337889514-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[urban lodge]

One piece fans really want the story to be worse, it's crazy

[pulsar timber]

This flashback is starting with gunko as a child not brook

[brittle basin]

Void Century might end up being 20 at least. Hopefully he doesn't stretch it too long.

[glacial bear]

JARUL FLASHBACK ARC WHEN

[pulsar timber]

20 is the bare minimum

[ashen perch]

Brook's early years are a mystery, we have only seen him speak in ''certain kingdom'', ''that place'',''those comrades'', ''these techniques I have...'' terms
His relationship with Gunko obviously is a mystery too, ''your love for my music... the holy land... the man I owed everything to... you killed him father killing Princess Shuri''
We even got a little glimpse at it lol

Its like flashback setup 101 and it is silly to insist that this is not going to be a major flashback

[pulsar timber]

That flashback is gonna be over 30 chapters

As it should be

[fringe escarp]

If we didn’t need to give this connection depth then oda shouldn’t have bothered including it

[lofty fern]

I say we get a bit of Brooks' early career, learn about the man he's indebted too and why, about Gunko and his growing relationship with Gunko, What happened with her father, and then how Gunko and Brook split. We'll then later get Gunko and how she got in Imu's good graces.

[brittle basin]

no you're not getting brook from a child of course. Gunko, his relationship to her, whatever caused the "fallout" between them.

[fringe escarp]

Because that connection inherently relies on history

[glacial bear]

WE NEED ALL 400 YEARS EXPLAINED & ILLUSTRATED BY ODA

[odd rune]

it obviously isnt resolved yet so i wouldnt say this until we know what oda actually has planned

i would have loved to see a lot of flashbacks in one piece

doesnt mean we need them

[fringe escarp]

Considering this explicitly connects the main antag of elbaf to a strawhat yeah we do

[pine ridge]

why do we even need all these chapters. oda should just tell us what the one piece is in an sbs and leave it at that. everything else is just pointless waste of time

[ashen perch]

The man Brook owes everything to is also likely going to be a Luffy/Shanks parallel btw, a dynamic that was quite the focus at the beginning of the arc and will be so moving forward as well

[lofty fern]

I'd give Brook about the same amount of time Sanji got

[hot cairn]

we need to see it first before saying it’s awful

[odd rune]

i will never forgive oda for putting the raizou flashback in an SBS

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-raizo-ninja-raizo-of-the-mist-here-before-your-eyes-gif-16554529