also-manga

[fringe escarp]

where zuniesha finally makes it clear what their mindset actually was

"ahhh joyboy, it is as if you are right there"

"let us put our faith into this boy"

separating the identity of joyboy from luffy

[grand flower]

@trim lily @lofty fern is there a non-MF saga arc where you either of you genuinely believed “oh yeah luffy is losing this one”

?

[lofty fern]

I think we'll just have to disagree. I think just the very nature of how Luffy was set up makes him an underdog, the same as a Naruto or a Deku or most of the other anime protags

[fringe escarp]

kaido himself also relies heavily on who the identity of joyboy is, because its most likely the entire reason why he came to wano, he was distinctly aware that his defeat meant the return of joyboy, and waited decades in wano

[dense haven]

lots of people thought luffy was gonna lose in wci

millions dropped when he didn't

[trim lily]

probably only egghead

[sweet anvil]

I agree with what you’re saying Luffy isn’t joyboy in the slightest as seen

[grand flower]

So the only time you expected Luffy to lose was 26 years in and he’s an underdog?

[lofty fern]

I've never actually thought it, personally, even at marineford.

[fringe escarp]

and something i see damn near NOBODY comment on is how it goes beyond just wanting a good fight, kaido identifies with the goals and beliefs that joyboy as a figure held

his ACTUAL dream is to have a death that changes the world

[glacial bear]

When Warcury showed up oh man. That’s Luffy’s strongest opponent

[trim lily]

like hpq said i think we'll just have to agree to disagree, we have two very different ideas of what an underdog is

our definitions are incompatible

[grand flower]

The guy you never expected to lose is an underdog?

[fringe escarp]

and kaido clearly wanted a world where the world government is uprooted and strength defines one character

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/warcury-luffy-destroyer-boar-topman-topmanwarcury-gif-8447732298327824946

[grand flower]

The guy I always expect to win, that’s the underdog

That sounds right?

[fringe escarp]

for him to choose joyboy to be the one to change the world in his stead means to some degree he agreed with him

and this is INSANELY significant

[trim lily]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-saint-topman-warcury-intro-title-card-saint-topman-warcury-topman-warcury-st-warcury-gif-5414042910152365497

[fringe escarp]

because of his final moments in the story

[lofty fern]

It's not about me, its about the story. An underdog is going to win in the end, that's what makes him an underdog. It's more about how he gets there that's important

[dense haven]

man what is this pose

can someone explain it to me

[grand flower]

If you say so

[dense haven]

why is bro doing the slav squat

[fringe escarp]

throughout the entire fight he began to have faith that luffy was the person he was looking for, the one he desperately wanted to die to, and to confirm this he asks luffy

"what kind of world do you wish to create"

[trim lily]

hes swagged up

[fringe escarp]

and after hearing his answer, he's in shock, and begins to have his last flashback

where he tells king that he believes that joyboy is the man who will beat him

and king responds with "i guess that day will never come"

and based on that chapter ALONE its ironic

since joyboy "returned"

and kaido lost

so kaido was right and had his dream fufilled, thats why he was shocked right

...until 1050

[sweet anvil]

Man I need to reread wano I feel like when reading it I didn’t understand kaidos character correctly

[fringe escarp]

where we finally get a clear shot of his expression in human form to luffy's declaration

and he isn't content

[fringe ice]

Ngl I was defending mihawk against shanks, someone jumped in and started spouting such bs in defense of mihawk that I lowkey wanna disagree with them

[fringe escarp]

dw me neither i just no life this series LMAO

[grand flower]

I’m a Kaido expert

What you wanna know

[fringe escarp]

i fucking despised the ending so badly it took me ages of rereading and theorizing and ofc later context to finally have a better idea

[fringe escarp]

but this is far from interpretative

[fringe ice]

One of the most complex characters ironically in the way Oda wrote him but people don't care bc they can't read

[sweet anvil]

Maybe it’s because I was a lot younger reading wano weekly but I took kaido as a man who just wanted conflict and to go out with a bang

[fringe ice]

He's quite the tragic character

[grand flower]

Kaido has a LOT of subtlety to him

[fringe escarp]

it's definitely not just that, he specifically admired roger and whitebeard AND the samurai

all of which died with a purpose

"death COMPLETES a person"

was how he described it

[sweet anvil]

I watched some of wano with my little brother specifically when he knocks out luffy and im starting to see him differently

[hot cairn]

you guys were discussing if Luffy is an underdog?

[grand flower]

Ye

[fringe ice]

He wanted to go out like them cause he thought that's what made them great when in reality it was the greatness with which they lived their lives that made their deaths so great

[sweet anvil]

Looking back on that quote after seeing rocks tragic end in comparison to Whitebeard and Roger’s makes it mean so much more

[fringe ice]

He couldn't get that, he just chased after a death as glorious as Oden, whom he admired and was somewhat jealous of and held some regret for

[grand flower]

Kaido has adopted an Elbaph believe that death defines you

[fringe escarp]

that's a wano belief he specifically adopted

[grand flower]

It used to be the way of the times during the era of war the giants ruled over

[fringe ice]

The fact Kaido did Oden so dirty contributes to his character and makes it all so much more sour

Because he knows he did

[fringe escarp]

but my ultimate point is that kaido being discontent isn't because he didn't have a great fight

i think the point of his lack of content is that luffy isnt who he was looking for, which makes 3 ppl who have identified luffy with joyboy that were ultimately able to realize their error

and i think imu will definitely be the ultimate example of this

imu is so unbelievably stuck in the past he thought both rocks AND blackbeard were davy jones

[fringe ice]

I do think he accepted Luffy was Joyboy and that's why he took bajrang gun head-on in order to be defeated

[sweet anvil]

Lmao

[fringe escarp]

i think if he accepted this he wouldn't be upset at death

the last shot of his face before he dies in 1050 in human form isnt him smiling

which is commonly how oda will show one's content at death

[fringe ice]

Then again I don't think he died but that's another talk

[sweet anvil]

I personally don’t think there’s room in the story for a kaido return

But if he somehow did

[fringe escarp]

the fact that both kaido AND zuniesha, two characters that are bar none the most commonly used figures to say luffy = joyboy BOTH realized their error cannot be a coincidence

[sweet anvil]

It’s possible he would be in possession of pluton

[iron oriole]

Kaido is dead

[fringe escarp]

when oda does inheritance of will he doesnt literally have ppl call the inheritor by a completely different name

[iron oriole]

You cant get it without breaking down the walls

Its currently trapped

[fringe ice]

The clues line up, while he's going down he's thinking back to when he told King about how the one who comes and defeats him is Joyboy. When he first beat Luffy he went "I guess you're not him after all..." which means he could only be Joyboy in Kaido's eyes if he could bring him down, which he did

[fringe escarp]

comparisons may be made but absolutely not actively identifying them

[formal wagon]

good

[sweet anvil]

Forgot ts 😭

[fringe ice]

Nah

[fringe escarp]

that's if the line is meant to be ironic

[formal wagon]

TBH my carrot votes should count as like 200 votes

[fringe escarp]

kaido's expression at death being upset or sad coupled with that flashback has a far more literal meaning

[iron oriole]

As dead as Cobra bro, just like BM

[fringe escarp]

"i guess he will never arrive" in the context of the scene is literal

[fringe ice]

Nah not BM either

[fringe escarp]

thats why it was the last thing he thought about before death

not the fact that he believes joyboy will be the one who defeats him

but that he will never come

[iron oriole]

I swear it'll be the final chapter & people will still say BM is returning

[fringe ice]

Idk, that doesn't make much sense to me given everything

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fairly-odd-parents-mr-crocker-crazy-insane-gif-4265161

[fringe ice]

But it's an interesting perspective

[fringe escarp]

when even zuniesha corrects himself in the same scene where kaido asks luffy who he is

[hot cairn]

Kaido and BM are gone

[fringe escarp]

and in egghead we have emeth constantly calling luffy joyboy only to ALSO correct himself

i dont think the message is that joyboy has returned

i think the message is to not identify luffy with joyboy

[fringe ice]

Yes because Luffy is his own person. He's just carrying on Joyboy's will

[fringe escarp]

but that isnt the same as joyboy returning

[fringe ice]

Kaido never personally knew Joyboy, it's treated as a "title" or role

Kaido himself might've been Joyboy according to King

But he didn't believe that for himself

[fringe escarp]

he obviously never knew him personally, but he absolutely identified with what he meant

[fringe ice]

Joyboy returning is always a metaphorical thing

Luffy IS Joyboy's return

[fringe escarp]

and the one person to proclaim this in the story

corrected themselves

[fringe ice]

They're just too alike even though they're not the same person

Yes because they thought they were seeing THE Joyboy (alive)

Luffy dons the same Nika form

[fringe escarp]

but thats the issue

thats the most explicit correlation between the two

the one other correlation via the prophecy was straight up incorrect

because it correlates joyboy's return with the walls being broken down beforehand

[fringe ice]

I don't think that was the point conveyed by that line

[fringe escarp]

momo is explicitly aware of this and chose not to

the GOROSEI were aware of this

[fringe ice]

The Wano situation is kind of weird

[fringe escarp]

zuniesha was sent to wano for this purpose

[graceful tide]

exactly

[fringe ice]

Sooo what are you getting at with this line of thought

The raid will fail?

[fringe escarp]

no, the point is that prophecies are bullshit

joyboy the figure the idea the whatever didn't return, the walls never broke down, kaido was unsatisfied and zuniesha came to wano for zero purpose

a arc before this they have a entirely new power up dedicated to changing the future

showing that the future is not set in stone

like imagine if ppl were saying roger will "return" in 22 years

hell IMU believes davy jones will/HAS returned

and that isnt metaphorical to him its literal

it isnt meant to be treated as a will thing

[fringe ice]

We know the prophecy will be changed already due to other factors that haven't been calculated by it but I feel like if the point Oda was trying to convey is "don't believe the prophecy so much, it's flawed and bullshit" it would've been conveyed more clearly

Imu is extremely stuck to the past, and resemblance through shared will is a common thing in and series. Luffy has directly been paralleled with Roger for that reason even though they don't even look alike

[fringe escarp]

paralleled with roger but not literally called gold roger

and thats explicitly because of their dreams

luffy is paralelled with joyboy purely because of looks 🥀

[fringe ice]

Also, to be honest... if anything Luffy genuinely kinda is Joyboy's second coming going off what we know?

[fringe escarp]

that

*that's entirely based on looks and fruit

[fringe ice]

Not really

He liberates countries

[fringe escarp]

joyboy has never been stated or implied to literate countries or people

[fringe ice]

What does he do then?

[fringe escarp]

we dont know

joyboy's moralities are a massive mystery

we know he's kind to emeth since we explicitly see a purely kind gesture from him

[fringe ice]

"Joyboy" (in all likelihood a nickname) who fought the incarnation of oppression and also the devil doesn't remind you of Luffy in behavior?

[fringe escarp]

no, because blackbeard will do the same thing

[fringe ice]

Blackbeard's parallel will probably be Davy

Whom we have yet to learn more about

[fringe escarp]

that's kind of my point

[fringe ice]

But he has a piece in this too

[fringe escarp]

rocks and blackbeard are vastly different characters

yet both are directly correlated to davy by imu

and its 100% because of their lineage lol

[fringe ice]

Eh... Huge difference between the two cases

[fringe escarp]

is it? the WG cares massively about linage and patterns even if it means jack shit

to the point where they killed women and children over the concern that roger had a kid

because they were worried he would be the next pirate king

[fringe ice]

For one Rocks' fate probably directly affected Teach's future. And what they want may not be the same but it's pretty similar

Joyboy on the other hand is like Davy. Not directly/recently tied to them but they still parallel them

Joyboy to Luffy, Davy to Teach

[fringe escarp]

wanting to be king of the world as a mostly portrayed positive figure isnt the same as wanting to be king as a dictator who keeps slaves

[fringe escarp]

joyboy is also similar to blackbeard

because they both had the same goal

[fringe ice]

I did just say it's not the same but still similar

[fringe escarp]

a goal joyboy doesn't share with luffy

and that's realistically the most important part of parallels

not looks not even dynamics but what it actually means for those characters

what their aspirations are their morals their actions

sabo inherited ace's will this is objectively true

they couldn't be anymore different

they share literally zero aspirations from each other

they share 2 traits

being luffys brother

being a flame fruit user

[fringe ice]

Roger had apparently the same dream as Luffy, do you think there's a 0% chance Joyboy shared it?

[urban lodge]

I think it's very likely that king of the world to Joyboy meant a similar thing that it does to Luffy, like being the most free

The difference is the world was mostly land back then and mostly ocean now

[fringe escarp]

i will never say zero % chance but i don't think its likely

[fringe escarp]

i honestly don't personally, king of the world is a lot more explicit than pirate king

pirate king is legit just being the best pirate ever

king of the world is a literal position of power because you directly control the world

[fringe ice]

We'll see because it would require OP as a series shifting course in its writing if what you're saying is true

[fringe escarp]

we know this because of the two other kings of the world

[urban lodge]

Yeah but I don't think Joyboy saw it that way

[fringe escarp]

it honestly already has, a LOT of our assumptions on joyboy are based on luffy

[urban lodge]

I don't think he really wanted to rule, that's antithetical to nika

[fringe escarp]

he wouldn't want to be king of the world then, he would've wanted what roger wanted

which was the vague idea of being the best pirate

[fringe ice]

Eh... depends how you view it. With the multiple Nika interpretations of Elbaf in mind for instance, Luffy could be seen both as the "true" Nika that contrasts the other ones, or that he fits right in to the "multifaceted" aspect of Nika and therefore there are multiple Nikas

[fringe escarp]

im glad you mentioned this because i actually believe luffy is meant to be the least specific nika

[fringe ice]

Which is why I say we'll see, Oda hasn't explicitly underlined this kind of anti prophecy thinking in his writing rn

[fringe escarp]

because there are 3 main interpretations of nika

and the order they're revealed actually matches the order they come chronologically

1. God of liberation

2. god of destruction

3. god of laughter

[fringe ice]

Oh also I think Joyboy vs War God being paralleled to Luffy and Loki quite blatantly also contributes to the prophecy once more alongside how Luffy has gathered the same allies as Joyboy in the mural

[fringe escarp]

first second and third worlds

oh i actually dont think thats joyboy

i think its genuinely nika

[fringe ice]

I forget if they said Nika or Joyboy tbh

[fringe escarp]

they said nika

nobody on elbaf knows joyboy

[fringe ice]

Fair, yeah Nika vs War God

[fringe escarp]

god of laughter being the most vague makes sense

luffys goal isnt to liberate the masses, he isnt a revolutionary

[fringe ice]

Who would the others be? Liberation = Nika and Destruction = Joyboy?

[fringe escarp]

but he still does fufill the role of a liberator in a lot of circumstances

[fringe escarp]

yes, the harley supports this too

[fringe ice]

I could see Joyboy fitting destruction

Sounds menacing but it can definitely work

[fringe escarp]

the harley + vegapunks speech + zuniesha is why i question joyboy's morality

[fringe ice]

Oh I don't think he's gonna end up morally questionable... Probably

Albeit that'd be super interesting

[fringe escarp]

just saying, zuniesha is handwaved a little too much in the community

if you've ever seen harry potter, his relationship with joyboy is extremely similar to dobby

[fringe ice]

Mhm, kinda

[fringe escarp]

and that goes extremely against the whole liberator idea for him

on top of joyboy siding with the system?

instead of wanting to break it

which is weird because he IS a criminal of the ancient kingdom

[fringe ice]

Which system

[fringe escarp]

the ancient kingdom's rule

[fringe ice]

Hm

[fringe escarp]

which has pretty much exclusively been negatively portrayed

being allies with multiple countries like elbaf wano and FMI is far from enough to handwave them

[grand flower]

Jarul and Ripley also say the things he told the scabbards

“It’s no longer the way of the times, but death completes a person”

[fringe escarp]

oh i wouldn't be surprised, im just saying he specifically praised the samurai for this

[grand flower]

Ripley said the former half, Jarul said the second

[fringe escarp]

not that elbaf doesn't share this

[grand flower]

Yeah he loved that lived like that too

[fringe ice]

Well this is def interesting but to circle around to Kaido's character because I'm gonna have to hop off and sleep soon cause I'm staying over at a friend's and my phone's at 41%

If all that happened wasn't enough to convince Kaido of Joyboy's return... What would be? I mean, Luffy did do what Kaido said he'd accept as Joyboy's return

[grand flower]

That they*

[fringe escarp]

the reason why i dont think he was satisfied and why i think kaido's belief of joyboy goes beyond just being defeated by him

is the fact he chose to ask a specific question to luffy

asking what kind of world he wanted to create

THAT'S the final line kaido speaks in the series

its clearly meant to be the most important thing we take out of that fight

the epitome of his conflict

and that answer shocked him, since he was in dragon form we dont actually know what kind of shocked

i assumed positively shocked

but 1050 paints a far different picture

since he isnt smiling at all at death

he's just frowning

meaning that answer didnt satisfy him

and since his last flashback after hearing this is his convo with king, i dont think that flashback is meant to be ironic

i think it was meant to show king was right

oda made it a point that he likes to have luffy crush the dreams of his foes

for kaidos whole reason to spend decades in wano to come true and for all his effort to be worth it would be antithetical to what he meant to do

and i think having his dream not come true would be a far more satisfying conclusion to his world view

because instead of validating brute forcing your way through some pretold prophecy, roger and whitebeard had their deaths come naturally

their final moments changed everything in ways they were satisfied with

and led to a whole new era

i think its significant that rayleigh questions if roger did it intentionally or if it was a spur of the moment

[fringe ice]

That gives a different read to all that...

[fringe escarp]

it makes this scene go from...honestly cringe glazing at best

to genuinely depressing

it feels fucking PERFECT

[fringe ice]

Yeah

[fringe escarp]

that made me love kaido's character way more

[fringe ice]

What makes me see it is the fact that, actually...

Woe

Wow*

So

Kaido parallels Oden.

But whereas Oden boils and smiles as he is content, Kaido falls into lava and frowns because he isn't...?

[fringe escarp]

BRO

I FUCKING LOVE THAT

[fringe ice]

Geez

[fringe escarp]

I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF THAT

[fringe ice]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[fringe escarp]

also "THATS WHAT I CALL EQUALITY AND FREEDOM"

[glacial bear]

Wow…you just COOKED CINEMA

[fringe escarp]

Freedom can be interpreted in very different ways

kaido views anarchy as true freedom

where might makes right and ones individual strength is what determines their freedom

and to a degree he's right

[fringe ice]

Yep

He turned Wano into a microcosm of the real world

[fringe escarp]

but that twisted way of interpreting it is why it leaves room for joyboy to be a lot more sus

because joyboy is likely the origin of the destructor interpretation

and for kaido to admire him...

[fringe ice]

What if Joyboy vs Imu had Imu in Luffy's position

Luffy is fighting for purely selfish reasons. It just so happens he's a naturally good person

Imu is also selfish

[fringe escarp]

this THIS is why the reveal of the first world is fucking integral

because it ends the idea of parallels being absolute

the first world is what begins the cycle interpretation

[fringe ice]

Yep

I like the idea that to Kaido, Joyboy is the destroyer

[fringe escarp]

it stops being a "reclaim OUR world" plot

to a plot about the cycle of the oppressed becoming the oppressors

which given orochis plot...

his family being genocided

[fringe ice]

They will be singing Wano's praises years from now

[fringe escarp]

the moment the mural chapter came out i stopped dooming

it changed fucking everything

[fringe ice]

I swear Wano will be looked back to as an integral, incredible setup and foreshadowing of what we'll learn

It's on my top 3 arcs so good, I'm tired of the slander

[fringe escarp]

parallelpiece has such a stranglehold that ppl dont realize that rocks being a generally respectable guy completely upends one of the most seemingly predictable characters in the story

who the actual fuck expected rocks to be admirable

[fringe ice]

I can totally see it

Joyboy is gonna be a hell of a plot twist huh

[modern mist]

Will there be a new episode this week, or will there be a break due to Golden Week?

[fringe ice]

I think the new ep is out

!animo

[tropic nova]

Next episode comes out on <t:1776614400:F> <t:1776614400:R> (time zone adjusted)

[modern mist]

New chapter**

[urban lodge]

There'll be one

[fringe ice]

Oh, nah I think we're getting one

[fringe escarp]

imagine if i told you the plot of a government with a stranglehold over the world with several powerful allied nations and the most broken military and technology was being rebelled by a small alliance of nations who intend to end their reign

and then i told you i was talking about the plot of the void century

[grand flower]

An important aspect of Kaidos idea of death was legacy. Oden told Kaido he could be forgotten but hed live on thru his people which is true legacy

Kaido dies without legacy, even his own son which should be a form of legacy takes on Oden’s instead

[modern mist]

Ok

Thanks

[fringe ice]

That too. Maybe that's why Yamato won't stop being Oden

[fringe escarp]

imagine if i told you this nation happened to have 3 weapons all capable of sinking the entire world and all seemingly built around a flooded world

would you call that nation the "good guys"

[fringe ice]

Kaido was already one of my favorite characters man he's just so fire

[fringe ice]

I've been getting comfortable with the idea of the Void Century lore being a lot more morally grey than we expect

[fringe escarp]

oh and to add insult to injury, the second world ends with the god of the sea going on a rampage, presumably referring to the world sinking as a result

i wonder who the god of the sea is

[fringe ice]

I doubt it's gonna be some black and white morality mickey mouse shit

[fringe escarp]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shirahoshi-poseidon

[fringe escarp]

its a pointless build up if it is

[dense haven]

"there is no shame in deterrence, having a weapon is very different than actually using it" - gandhi (not venusjuro)

[fringe escarp]

tbf having a weapon that kills millions without regard for who it is is a lot more different than a targeted attack

[urban lodge]

In before they were used for mining or something originally

[fringe escarp]

THEY WERE ACTUALLY ANCIENT GARDENING TOOLS

THEY DIDNT NUKE ISLANDS THEY SHOT FIREWORKS

🔥

[urban lodge]

Poseidon was used to water the plants

[fringe ice]

Or planet-conquering weapons

Anyway gotta sleep but great talk

[hot cairn]

Wano is overhated

[fringe escarp]

*PLANT

🔥

[fringe escarp]

god of the forest huh...

imu is the EEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL corporations trying to build malls

and take down the rec center

[fringe escarp]

good night bro 🤝

ong whenever ppl say the ancient weapons arent actually weapons and its just WG propaganda i actually physically feel my brain flaking

ah yes imu personally wrote the poneglyphs and put in that info

[hot cairn]

I hope it isn’t, honestly

[dense haven]

yall hyped for chapter?

[fringe escarp]

you dont want the void century to be as deep as orange town?

[ornate tartan]

😭😭🐐

[hot cairn]

no I meant that I hope that it’s not black and white and there’s some grey in there

[latent hamlet]

turns out joyboy isnt freedom but anarchy and chaos

[hot cairn]

ngl… that voice doesnt suit him

[hot cairn]

I could see it

[fringe escarp]

thats what i said lol

LMAO

[wraith mantle]

Usopp fans in the mud

[pulsar path]

Yoooooo this the English dub ? They cooking

[fringe escarp]

ngl the new intro makes it seem like usopp isnt staying on the crew 😭

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hawk-eye-dont-give-me-hope

[brittle basin]

i genuinely loved his English voice

[pulsar path]

It's pretty great !

[ashen rose]

Lol, lmao even

[ashen rose]

Even they know it should be HIS arc

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[fast pagoda]

I dont expect any straw hats to die or leave

The opening was very good but too much giants not enough knights

Hajrudin crew was cool but we didnt need the shot of Oimo and Kashii nuzzling those bums so forgettable

[distant vine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MemePiece/comments/1sjp57r/steven_john_ward_has_something_to_say_on_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Shanksbros that are invested into the agenda

You gotta find a response for this

[dense rapids]

Johanna is from Loki’s mom lineage

Both of them have special traits passed down from pure ancient giants

Johanna colored horns

Loki snake eyes

[scenic dirge]

Before I read what you said, I assumd you were implying that that specific number is Johanna's dad lol

[next estuary]

Hello Evan the Ethel

[scenic dirge]

Hello sir

Might become the Ethanol soon

[next estuary]

What about Evan the Evangelic

[lofty fern]

Hades and his Persephone

[blazing depot]

discord mod and his kitten

[vital heart]

Who's Loki's mom

[celest mauve]

estrid

[fast pagoda]

Pretty

Though Imu is more like Zeus

Actually he has the reclusiveness of Hades with the wrath of Zeus

[prisma idol]

Estrid, The woman from brewers village that Loki destroyed

[distant vine]

Ugh I found such a good tweet but the punchline quotes another anime

😭

[dense haven]

mods are asleep you can post it

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/wh1ppetangel/status/2043408317477777821?s=20 this is crazy

Clara @ wano (@wh1ppetangel)

@mxmacabre me with foxy ❤️

X · Apr 12, 2026, 7:18 PM

[vital heart]

ESTRID MA BALLS

[mighty roost]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

[native cloud]

D’Fuck

[prisma idol]

Release the chapter lil bro

[formal wagon]

savage

[quiet ice]

Release the chapter with no swear words or else

[prisma idol]

OOC, Not my luffy

[formal wagon]

i was confused so i googled it and i wanted to help anyone else out

😄

[fallen meteor]

In this example is control
Luffy is out of control saying fuck

[formal wagon]

that bastard is always out of control

buggys BIGGEST mistake was letting that freak out of impel down

[fallen meteor]

The entire planet agrees

[celest mauve]

the implication that ace went to heaven is amusing

[fast pagoda]

This dude Dawn Dusk started talking about some Zoro kills Imu

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-washed-my-goat-is-washed-washed-goat-your-goat-is-washed-mfw-my-goat-is-washed-gif-11435157539877774481

[cloud adder]

ace definitely went to heaven

[cloud adder]

nooooo is that what the new video is about?

[fast pagoda]

No

He just talks about it for a bit

[cloud adder]

oh

[fast pagoda]

He also supports Urouge kills Imu which is better

[dim radish]

Has to do Something

[cloud adder]

karma man vs the devil, the winner is obvious

[waxen furnace]

Real

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/urouge-one-piece-awesome-badass-awesomeness-gif-22705531

[waxen furnace]

Holy real

!urucrew

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/631168230958039109/image0.jpg

[fast pagoda]

Thats why he thinks Urouge could hurt Imu

Karma exploitation

[waxen furnace]

Omg hi Mimi

[cloud adder]

yeye, i watched an older video where DawnDusk mentioned the idea, gotta watch the new video tho

[fast pagoda]

Like the Ghost Rider penance stare

[cloud adder]

yooo MELO, its been a hot minute lmao

[waxen furnace]

I was on a character building arc

[cloud adder]

i see youve become burger toad

[waxen furnace]

I built nothing it all got torn down by a woman

[cloud adder]

W char arc

[cloud adder]

bruh

[waxen furnace]

All we learned is Im easily manipulated by love

[cloud adder]

😭

youre irl sanji 💔

did WCI teach you nothing...

[waxen furnace]

I spent my whole spring break in a talking stage that I tried ending 3 times

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-gif-20257438

[cloud adder]

wtf

[waxen furnace]

How I was moving

How I’m still moving

Yearning isn’t for the weak

[cloud adder]

[cloud adder]

ONG

go to the mountains and find peace

[waxen furnace]

2-3 years Dagestan

I think if I went to a mountainous area right now I’d cry

Overwhelmed by nature

[cloud adder]

mother nature is powerful

[cloud adder]

why tf did you just have this in your pocket

dagestan??

[waxen furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/dagestan-send-him-2-3-years-gif-14326579384410409432

And forget

[cloud adder]

OH

wrestling/UFC memes are surprisingly peak

[waxen furnace]

Women are so hard for me bro because I’m like autistic so I can’t keep up with signs

[cloud adder]

just ask man

make them talk talk

[waxen furnace]

“Hey so do you like me”

Like bro

I’m not 5

[cloud adder]

lmao

[waxen furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-drooling-patrick-star-spongebob-movie-drooling-slime-gif-525340425450564005

[cloud adder]

WELL DONT MAKE IT ABOUT YOU

[waxen furnace]

Hey you gonna keep playing eye tag or holla at ya boy

😭😭😭

[cloud adder]

LISTEN

get to know them a bit

[waxen furnace]

She tells me that she wants me to stay with her

[cloud adder]

then go with the "hey i like you do you wanna go out fr"

[cloud adder]

o

[waxen furnace]

I said goodnight because I’m like on the verge of puking

And she says “I don’t want you to leave”

[haughty saddle]

She’s probably just being nice

[cloud adder]

[waxen furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/aew-all-elite-wrestling-kyle-fletcher-don-callis-excited-gif-3694908269796971389

[waxen furnace]

Surely bro

[waxen furnace]

I miss wrestling with Euge

[cloud adder]

TOMORROW IS MONDAY!

in theory euge is free tomorrow night

MELO BE THERE

[waxen furnace]

Nah he’s on his character development arc

[cloud adder]

WHAT

HIM TOO?

man

[waxen furnace]

He’s not even mod anymore

Or helper

[cloud adder]

WHAAAAAAT

[waxen furnace]

Stupid role names

[cloud adder]

melo bruh

[waxen furnace]

We love Eugene the kid

[cloud adder]

ive lowkey been gone

what happened while i was gone 💔

[waxen furnace]

You realize I left the server for like 6 months

[cloud adder]

erm

[waxen furnace]

My join date RIGHT NOW is March 25th 2026

[cloud adder]

big news day

[waxen furnace]

[cloud adder]

😭 😭 😭

why leave the server tho

[waxen furnace]

First joined in January of last year

[cloud adder]

just close discord rahhhh

[waxen furnace]

Character development

[cloud adder]

damn fr?

[cloud adder]

JUST CLOSE DISCORD

[waxen furnace]

If I have my vices in front of me I will abuse them

[cloud adder]

or throw the server in a folder

[cloud adder]

your next char development is to learn high quality will power!

RESIST

[waxen furnace]

My issue right now is spending money

I just kind of keep spending

[cloud adder]

learn the power of delayed gratification

[waxen furnace]

I think I’m depressed again

It happens

[cloud adder]

damn

real

whatcha buying

pls say its not pixels

[waxen furnace]

My days are starting to blend together

[cloud adder]

routineroutineroutine

[waxen furnace]

I bought a Nintendo switch 2

[cloud adder]

make a routine rn

[cloud adder]

W

thats long term investment of fun

you gonna play pokopia?

[waxen furnace]

Yeah I’ve been enjoying it

I bought it with the console haha

[cloud adder]

pokemon will heal your soul

[waxen furnace]

I also got MK World, Mario wonder, and Galaxy 2

[cloud adder]

hold up

[waxen furnace]

Holding

[cloud adder]

aight i think thats a 2/4 win at best

[waxen furnace]

Oh?

[cloud adder]

og Galaxy >>>

mario wonder, snore

[waxen furnace]

I have OG Galaxy with Mario all stars

I quite like wonder

[cloud adder]

wonder is just the latest platform one right?

[waxen furnace]

Uh yeah I believe so

[cloud adder]

i forgot what the last one was but i remember being bored

[waxen furnace]

The music it has is good

[cloud adder]

I HATE THE ELEPHANT MUSHROOM

[waxen furnace]

Yeah it’s lwk mid

[cloud adder]

smh

melo hide your credit cards

no more spending

4 mario games in one go is actually kinda cooked

[waxen furnace]

I was thinking of opening a money market account that I’m unable to touch from my actual bank

[cloud adder]

erm

[waxen furnace]

Maybe I will next check

[cloud adder]

you gotta practice your self control man

[waxen furnace]

Basically an account I can transfer too but can’t pull out of unless I go to the actual bank

[cloud adder]

yeye

its just

[waxen furnace]

All my bills are paid

So it’s not like I’m hurting for the cash

I just should save too

[cloud adder]

for sure

ive been in saving mode for a bit

its nice

forced into saving mode lowkey

[waxen furnace]

I need to save for a concert I’m going to

[cloud adder]

OPTCG prices

[waxen furnace]

I actually almost bought cards the other day

[cloud adder]

like a booster box or just individual cards?

[waxen furnace]

Individual packs

[cloud adder]

you shoulda

[waxen furnace]

You are so hypocritical

Hahah

[cloud adder]

minus 1 manga card

[cloud adder]

ITS ONE PIECE THO

[waxen furnace]

I wanna sell my VR headset

[cloud adder]

WE MUST FUND ODA !

[waxen furnace]

I bought it to play games with my girlfriend then we broke up

[frail kindle]

I miss the days where you could buy individual packs for 5 dollars

[waxen furnace]

😭

[waxen furnace]

Real

[cloud adder]

thats TRAGIC

well

[waxen furnace]

The second I unboxed it I was like why did I do that

[cloud adder]

depending on where you go

OPTCG packs are like $6-$7 per pack

[cloud adder]

omg thats a horrible feeling

so you can resell like new tho, ye?

[waxen furnace]

I got it for like 400 so I’m hoping to get like 250-300 for it

[cloud adder]

push it to 350

[waxen furnace]

We’ll see I need it out fast

[cloud adder]

melomelomelomelo

i fear the answer but

are you caught up to the manga?

[waxen furnace]

Yeah

[frail kindle]

yeah but... msrp :(

[waxen furnace]

Why would you fear the answer haha

[waxen furnace]

Kill me

[cloud adder]

lmao

[frail kindle]

I ain't trying to buy booster boxes man

[cloud adder]

idk with the general vibe, i thought youd say you havent read in months

i miss buying the booster boxes

[waxen furnace]

If you asked me 4 days ago that would have been the answer

[cloud adder]

now theyre like $300 minimum

[frail kindle]

I got more important things to spend that money on

[cloud adder]

I KNEW IT

ong

[frail kindle]

like my trip to vegas

[cloud adder]

rip my cardboard addiction

[waxen furnace]

Elbaph became boring for me with the rocks flashback after god valley was shown so I stopped reading to get a batch of chapters

[cloud adder]

gambling trip 😭

[waxen furnace]

I stopped reading the TCB also

[frail kindle]

fighting game convention trip

[cloud adder]

holy big mood

[cloud adder]

are you doing any competing or just for fun?

[frail kindle]

I'm competing too

[cloud adder]

whoa

[frail kindle]

in sf6

[cloud adder]

oooo

i know almost nothing about fighting games but

who do you main

[waxen furnace]

Modern DeeJay

[cloud adder]

do you feel more enlightened as an officials only or?

[frail kindle]

Classic Dee Jay

https://tenor.com/view/dee-jay-dj-dance-street-fighter-6-sf6-gif-7995790842620751817

[cloud adder]

lmao

[waxen furnace]

I feel like one piece hasn’t been too enjoyable in ages

[cloud adder]

[waxen furnace]

I don’t like the direction of the devil stuff

[frail kindle]

[cloud adder]

elaborate pls

how do you feel about the imu reveal?

[waxen furnace]

It was cool

[cloud adder]

goodgood

[waxen furnace]

I don’t like the healing factor

I think it’s stupid and makes me genuinely just lose interest in fights

[cloud adder]

like holy knights regen?

[waxen furnace]

Yeah

[cloud adder]

hmmmmm

but like

think of it like this

[waxen furnace]

“Omg he did it New dawn punch that was the size of the country” too bad he doesn’t know how to actually deal damage

[cloud adder]

ITS TOO SOON OK

luffy needs to learn golden haki from shanks

let oda cook

[waxen furnace]

Yeah ok bro

https://tenor.com/view/ahem-shit-loser-seriously-gif-5731140

[cloud adder]

but anyways, the regen means oda can get more intense with the blood and gore

[waxen furnace]

Gore that isn’t even real

[cloud adder]

without chars actually losing limbs constantly

[waxen furnace]

I liked the fact that they just killed giants to save em I thought it was lwk funny

[cloud adder]

lol ye that was classic goofy one piece

[waxen furnace]

I want my fights to have real impact and substance

[cloud adder]

they will eventually

[waxen furnace]

Wano had substance

[cloud adder]

LMAO

[waxen furnace]

Real meaning

[cloud adder]

WHAT

WANO

THE WANO

WHERE KAIDO

DIDNT GET ANY REAL KILLS??

HUH

[waxen furnace]

Look me in my eyes and tell me you didn’t cry during Wano

Oden

[cloud adder]

bro thats a completely different topic

[cloud adder]

FLASHBACK DEATH 😭

melo

[waxen furnace]

Still a death twin

[cloud adder]

i know you said GV was mid but

ida death??

hello

that was tragic

[waxen furnace]

Ida death wasn’t even a fight

[cloud adder]

omggggg

[waxen furnace]

It was tragic but like those villagers had it coming from Loki

[cloud adder]

well

[waxen furnace]

I’m not saying her death didn’t mean anything it was sad yes

[cloud adder]

aight you can blame oda for making rocks mid

[waxen furnace]

But like Luffy was really walking down Onigashima for a cause

Elbaph they just happen to be there

[cloud adder]

elbaf still has like maybe 2 more flashbacks to go btw

[ruby moat]

Oda should have imu kill gaban in front of colon and then colon gets a rage powerup and fights off imu

[waxen furnace]

[cloud adder]

this was how a lot of pre timeskip happened but there was still plenty of substance in those arcs

[waxen furnace]

Bartsky never fails to disappoint

[cloud adder]

gyaban really might die tho

youll have your tears soon melo

SURELY imu will get a real kill

[waxen furnace]

I’m not even that big a fan of Egghead

[cloud adder]

why are you talking about egghead now 😭

[waxen furnace]

Because it’s relevant imo

[cunning jacinth]

egghead mcbig

[waxen furnace]

Egghead was too short a arc for all the shit that happened

[cloud adder]

hmmmmm

[waxen furnace]

Making it seem less substantial

[cloud adder]

disagree

[waxen furnace]

Arsal said it best imo

[cloud adder]

it was supposed to be a rush of an arc

i like that it was jam packed with yap

[waxen furnace]

@cloud adder

[cloud adder]

but the fighting was uhhhh

holy lorosei

[cloud adder]

but it was SUPPOSED to be a rush of an arc

[waxen furnace]

That doesn’t make it any better imo

[cloud adder]

well tbh i need to read egghead in a sitting or two

[waxen furnace]

Egghead is like sabaody if it was jam packed with shit

[cloud adder]

ive only consumed it weekly

[waxen furnace]

And not to mention sabaody had the strawhats running from a greater threat like egghead and the gorosei

But that actually left a impact

[cloud adder]

bruh

oda isnt gonna have another timeskip atp

[waxen furnace]

I don’t want another timeskip it’d be such a dumb thing to have another training arc

UNLESS

[cloud adder]

SHs cant be falling apart now like they did after sabaody

[waxen furnace]

it’s in the shape of Wano like within the prison

Yk?

[waxen furnace]

Agreed

[prisma yacht]

There can be a time dilation tho

[cloud adder]

time dilation copium

[waxen furnace]

[prisma yacht]

Also mimi I drew garling wanna see

[cloud adder]

lemme see garlic NOW

[prisma yacht]

BEHOLD

[cloud adder]

[cloud adder]

YOOOO

[ruby moat]

Next chapter starts with luffy waking up. He has a beard and moustache. His left eye has an eye patch. Narration card says “2 years later”

Usopp wakes up next to him. He has more facial hair and his nose is spiky. Usopp speaks.
“Luffy, can you believe it’s already been 2 years since we lost to imu on Elbaf?”

[cloud adder]

ROCKS SLAYERS LMAOOO

🥶

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[cloud adder]

geniunely peak

[prisma yacht]

Thankiee

[cloud adder]

what inspired you to draw garling tho?

[waxen furnace]

Luffy says in response “we should have had Rayleigh tell us the one piece in Sabaody”

1000 yard stare

[prisma yacht]

Krome had been asking me to draw him for quite some time i finally decided to do it last night xD

[cloud adder]

Wrome

actually i need to check in with krome

krome might be an actual garling fan

[prisma yacht]

[cloud adder]

for the record i just think garling is insanely entertaining since he's such a prick to the gorosei

[prisma yacht]

He's the most interesting gorosei

[cloud adder]

frrrr

it kills me that garling is the "young blood" of the gorosei

[prisma yacht]

[crisp python]

How would Zoro fans react if Imu cut the lvng shit out of Zoro? 😂

[sick dust]

Thoughts on Sommers?

[prisma yacht]

Zoro upscale

Tanking imu's attack

[tidal ice]

god cutting my goat?

[cloud adder]

absolute dogwater

[dense haven]

thoughs on imu?

[cloud adder]

potential fraud alert

[glass plume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/theboys-perfect

Whose hand is this btw?

is it...

[prisma idol]

Gunko no?

[glass plume]

Oh yeah.

You're right.

[formal wagon]

idk

[glass plume]

https://x.com/barricadeS281/status/2043550019270422589/photo/1

ユうや (@barricadeS281)

御大に牙が生えてたらいいなって。
生えてなくてもかっこいいよ御大。

X · Apr 13, 2026, 4:41 AM

[craggy vapor]

Do y’all think Usopp will stay behind in Elbaf to train and come back stronger after timeskip for the final war?

[glass plume]

No.

[prisma yacht]

Is he doing the fine shyt pose

[prisma yacht]

No.

[glass plume]

No idea, I think he is yawning

[prisma yacht]

I think he is being sexy

[dense haven]

yes

[glass plume]

That comes naturally.

[dense haven]

usopp will be super strong when we meet him next at the epilogue

but he needs to go now

[craggy vapor]

it could mean something that everybody is walking past Usopp here

Or maybe he gets killed by Imu

I mean his dream is to become a brave warrior of the sea. And he is on Elbaf. Elbaf for him is like the All Blue for Sanji.

[prisma yacht]

No it's not

[craggy vapor]

So basically, when he reached Elbaf, his goal was also reached basically or in order to reach his goal he is staying in Elbaf to train.

[vital heart]

i hope usopp dies lol

[frail kindle]

Hey meek

@vital heart what are you up to

@vital heart

[vital heart]

?

?

?

[vital heart]

?

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-g5-vs-lucci-gif-1843341773395658306

[frail kindle]

What I can't say hi to you now

What a rude guy

[glass plume]

True.

[frail kindle]

Rude boi

[pine ridge]

the fame changed meek

sad to see

[muted hedge]

absolutely stunning

even more stunning

my boy does not disappoint

[prisma yacht]

https://x.com/i/status/2042971236733722721

거지 (@yyyeagerrr)

#ONEPIECE

X · Apr 11, 2026, 2:21 PM

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/trungroi2/status/2043431907388461095/photo/1

有害無罪 (@trungroi2)

Imu イム but smol

X · Apr 12, 2026, 8:51 PM

[dense haven]

any imu haters in chat

[frozen aspen]

me

bum

hasn't anyone told u that starring is rude smh

[rustic coral]

OP choptir this week

and Toei continues to release mid

https://tenor.com/view/figarland-shamrock-shanks-shanks-twin-shanks-brother-one-piece-gif-1601431042262961007

Thank god we have Wit Piece coming

[stone tulip]

The amount of fanarts Imu getting is crazy lmao

[odd rune]

Wit piece is gonna stink

[rustic coral]

let me cope

I still have the liveaction anyway

[odd rune]

i dont need luffy vs krieg to have yutapon cubes

[stone tulip]

Makes sense because visiting Elbaf is his long dream of his

[rustic coral]

The liveaction will be there anyway

its a pretty good adaptation now

[odd rune]

i only watched the hiriluk episode from season 2 and even though it was good i still dont know why you wouldnt just watch the anime

[dense haven]

wit piece is a scam

[rustic coral]

Isnt that ep like 4 eps in the anime

[dense haven]

because cartoons are for babies lulw

[odd rune]

4 anime episodes is literally the same length as one OPLA episode

[rustic coral]

30 minutes longer actually

[odd rune]

opla episodes are 30 mins?

[rustic coral]

4 eps = 1h 20mins

[muted hedge]

when is WIT piece releasing anyways?

[rustic coral]

The Hiruluk ep is like 50mins

[odd rune]

forgive me federick im stupid

[rustic coral]

Aussies amirite

[odd rune]

anyway its worth it

the anime is miles ahead

[rustic coral]

i mean idk how many eps the Hiruluk fb is in the anime

[muted hedge]

84 - 87?

[frozen aspen]

wit piece will be certified mid

[vital heart]

When does WIT peace release

WIT Peiece

WIT piece

Im at my wits endm

At my wits end

Ugh argh

Doh!

[odd rune]

it will look like the re animation of zoro and sanji in the brogy ring

the main thing will be the pacing

if it can have 80% as good music and 80% as good voice acting but 200% better pacing it will be 100% better 50% of the time

[rustic coral]

The pacing of the liveaction is already 300% better

WCI with that pacing would be peaker liveaction fiction

[odd rune]

is the pacing really 300% better if it tells 20% of the actual story

[dense haven]

80% of the story is mid so yea

[rustic coral]

its been like 10 chapters per ep roughly

If we go off of 1 la ep = 3 anime ep, where 1 anime ep (at this stage of the manga at least) is like 1.5 chapters

but most liveaction eps are not even 50 mins

so it would be like if the anime adapted 4 chapters per ep

[vital heart]

5 More Days Until I'm 21.

[rustic coral]

you are not?

[rustic coral]

it turned into 8 chapters with s2, but thats cuz they expanded Whiskey Peak and Reverse Mountain

Which is cool i think

I just hope they adapt the first half of Jaya next season

not just Alabasta

[rare tinsel]

1180 spoilers when

[pseudo gulch]

Hopefully never

[rose rune]

here's my one piece nose tier list

[native cloud]

Nose what?!

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-one-piece-monkey-d-dragon-young-revolutionary-army-gif-5979531005207383172

[rose rune]

too many people with those noses

[stray prism]

Probably im not a nose expert

[stray prism]

Where would crocus rank

[rose rune]

around c

also where I would have put dragon

[dense haven]

yall excited for chapter?

[rustic coral]

Oh my god I forgot Greg existed

[odd rune]

you forgot about the coauthor?

[rustic coral]

I just got one of his posts recommended now i wanna kms

[odd rune]

dont you know

[rustic coral]

How is he still the same

[odd rune]

he got oda into game of thrones

[rustic coral]

SHUT THE FUCK UP

[hearty shore]

domi reversi is meant for character assassination not turning someone into a villain

i thought rocks flashbacks made that clear

[muted hedge]

Xebec had one of the more interesting transitions with Domi Reversi if you ask me

i like that we heard what he really thought in the moment, like when he begged for Garp and Roger to kill him

i wish we got more of that with the other Domi Reversed characters too

[balmy field]

i still wonder how tf did JACK got a billion berry bounty is it KAIDO privelage

[rustic coral]

Its cuz of Voice of all things

I thought it was clear

[hearty shore]

yeah it's voat

[muted hedge]

i kinda wish it wasn't

it would be cool if it was just observation haki or something, being able to hear the inner voice of them

[muted hedge]

he is a big guy

[hearty shore]

it shows that imu can only compromise someone so much, which could hint at his character flaw of being so obsessed with control

[muted hedge]

maybe yeah

[balmy field]

ahh i still think its KAIDO privelage

[muted hedge]

probably a bit of both

[tidal ice]

https://tenor.com/view/nekomamushi-inuarashi-jack-jack-the-drought-wano-gif-25821052

jack the drought downplay?

[dense haven]

jack vs garlign whos the bigger fraud

[muted hedge]

so far? definitely Garling

[balmy field]

it took 2 furries to defeat his ass lmao

[balmy field]

garling

atleast people feared jack

[rustic coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/243003457613725696/1488844157957963927/twitter-gif-2039093730666319895_69ccf00f4a98e.gif

[muted hedge]

the slaves feared Garling too, to be fair

[rose rune]

took me a minute to realize pasta wasn't here. I was confused since I saw Jack

[muted hedge]

hi Thigh

[rose rune]

heyo

[muted hedge]

how has break week been?

[rose rune]

fine I guess

I don't really get withdrawals unless it's 3 weeks+ breaks

[muted hedge]

that's nice

how have you been?

[rose rune]

partially sick

[muted hedge]

damn, hope you are getting better

[rose rune]

I'm starting to feel better, but I've had this thing where I've gotten a slight fever and gotten dizzy every time I eat

[muted hedge]

that sounds rough, glad you're feeling better

[rose rune]

still taking today off tho

[muted hedge]

wise choice

[rose rune]

was supposed to have a 12,5 hour shift today

but now I have until the weekend to get better

[muted hedge]

that's good, 12,5 hour shift sound hella rough

[rose rune]

they're mostly fine. really depends on the service users

[muted hedge]

ah i see

[vital heart]

I like me better when I'm with you

u uu u uu uu u

u uuu u uu u u

[rose rune]

there are moments of psychosis and "challenging behavior", which does tire you out if it lasts for a while

[cosmic hamlet]

What is this?

Did i enter in a romance server suddenly 🤨

[balmy field]

slaves fear charloss too

[muted hedge]

yeah that's totally understandable

[muted hedge]

do they fear Charloss or only his authority?
i'd say that when it comes to Garling they genuinely fear him and what he can do

[balmy field]

by authority

i wouldnt fear a banana head he looks stupid lmao if their was someone like NSJURO or the gorosei they look intimidating compared to garling imo

[muted hedge]

i don't think they view him as a banana head when they're at the end of his blade

[unique lagoon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/infrared-cat

[muted hedge]

is that a farting cat?

[night wharf]

oda gonna troll us and give us 20 pages of dragon looking east and monologuing "............."

[muted hedge]

i really wonder what Oda is waiting for when it comes to Dragon

i feel like Dragon coming to Elbaph to rescue them from Imu would be kinda perfect

either Dragon or Shanks i suppose

[dense haven]

dragon will make a move soon

[urban epoch]

Ya think?

[vale heath]

Well I mean Dragon is literally making a move right now

Underneath all the Imu stuff, Garling comes in and confirms the siege is a big problem

Siege warfare is, by defintion, Something.

[muted hedge]

It is for sure, but i kinda want to see Dragon himself do something cool

God Valley was a gold mine when it comes to good moments for Dragon and i crave more of it

[vale heath]

He's doing something cool by playing it smart

Starve out your enemies so you don't have to fight them with their nightmare powers

[muted hedge]

Yeah, that's a smart choice for sure but my point still stands

even just getting something like Dragon reacting to Luffy's bounty poster when he is in gear 5 would be neat

does Dragon know about the legends of Nika for example? i assume so given Kuma but...

[rustic coral]

Reminder that FMI art is peak Oda art

[ashen perch]

FMI is extremely impressively crisp and clean but I do think Skypiea is the peak when you factor in overall presentation and paneling

[rustic coral]

Why u gotta ruin everything

[ashen perch]

I am just giving my take???

[rustic coral]

😔

[ashen perch]

😭

[rustic coral]

You fell off...

[muted hedge]

the latest chapter of Elbaph was extremely impressive if you ask me

though maybe not as crisp

[dense rapids]

Skypeia has the best art in the series

[ashen perch]

no yeah it was great, Elbaf's art has been a step up over Onigashima and Egghead atleast

[dense rapids]

Especially the colored version

[ashen perch]

eh, colored takes a lot out of Oda's original artwork

I really dont like how they ruin the use of negative space from Oda

[warm fossil]

skypeak has the best everything in the series

[ashen perch]

replacing it with goofy rainbow colored backgrounds, it looks so odd

[ashen perch]

this is true

[warm fossil]

best art, best flashback, best double spreads (peak fiction), best version of zoro, best version of chopper, robin when she still had aura, least amount of sanji ,noland is the goat

[celest mauve]

I like the theory of skypiea being a microcosm/rough foreshadowing of what happens with imu in the final saga

it would also mean nami gets to play a big role because she was integral to skypiea 😋

[ashen perch]

that is also true

[warm fossil]

(the worst part of the arc btw)

[urban epoch]

this is the one

[dense haven]

adood are you a nerona nami truther

[celest mauve]

this is just hating to hate, no logic

[warm fossil]

i'm a nami dies next chapter truther

[ashen perch]

I was just reading this chapter yesterday for a theory and its crazy how dynamic Oda's action artwork was

[celest mauve]

adood will you burn your copies of OP if nami ends up being an important character in the final saga

[warm fossil]

thankfully i don't actually have any copies of OP

[dense rapids]

Skypeia has the best because that’s where OP was supposed to end

[austere flint]

[ashen perch]

no it was not

[celest mauve]

?

[warm fossil]

legends say the original one piece ending was the 4kids ending

[ashen perch]

the 5 year thing isnt even real

by the time Oda was about to start the series, he thought the series would go ten years

by the time he hits like Water 7, he then makes the claim that the series go on for 20 more years

[celest mauve]

does usopp do anything notable in skypiea? maybe I'm forgetting

[ashen perch]

and I think we are hitting 23 now since that one? I dont remember the exact timeline