#also-manga

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distant vine
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Torishima's a piratefolker QueenKEKW

ashen perch
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but the only person who alleges that is a former Dragon Ball editor who literally HATES Oda. So its absolutely false

ashen perch
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is who I am talking about lol

iron oriole
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I think Toriyama passing kinda scared Oda & made him want to speed up

brittle basin
glacial bear
ashen perch
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no he never worked with Oda

frigid gulch
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That brother is something else

brittle basin
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so why does he hate him?

ashen perch
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he just told Oda that his manga would never succeed

brittle basin
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oh lmfao

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bozo

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dumbass

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one piece was great from chapter 1

urban lodge
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I get that he doesn't want to be an old man when one piece ends but I'd rather have him taking more breaks for the sake of his health than increasing the pace of the story

ashen perch
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he is still extremely mad about it, literally an old man

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yelling at the clouds type of dude

brittle basin
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I genuinely don't think Oda cares much about his health no matter what he says in any SBS or volume intro.

iron oriole
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Didn't we recently pass Batman in sales?

ashen perch
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this was Kakushigoto, its pretty funny

brittle basin
urban lodge
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Torrented the entire episode just to get the Gunko frame in higher quality

distant vine
glacial bear
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Well Oda wants to travel the world with family. I don’t blame him for trying to end the story now

glacial bear
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God old people are so stubborn

glacial bear
ashen perch
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he even opposed the serialization of One Piece

brittle basin
distant vine
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Apparently he thinks One Piece is too confusing for kids

urban lodge
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She's not in the op sadly

brittle basin
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she is on the flying bird thingy. not much though

glacial bear
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Bitter old dude

brittle basin
glacial bear
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I feel like any long series could be

distant vine
ashen perch
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he has alleged that:

Oda is a dictator, and his editors are all fanboys who would never and can never say anything against him
The story is too complex and cluttered to follow for the Shonen Jump audience
Oda's more focused on the anime and live action than the manga, he doesnt care about the manga as much anymore

brittle basin
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yeah, it's the nature of the beast. A Song of Ice and Fire is the same way. Hell, keeping up with all 7 seaons of buffy is extremely difficult.

ashen perch
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the anime thing is literally verifiably false, Oda's not even involved in it like that lol

glacial bear
brittle basin
distant vine
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I really would love to know or even imagine what specific changes Torishima would make lol

frigid gulch
iron oriole
urban lodge
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Man is so salty that he was wrong about one piece never becoming popular

distant vine
brittle basin
glacial bear
brittle basin
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Slice of Life Vegeta when?

ashen perch
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its funny, he's like the first editor to cause so much drama

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editors are meant to be lowkey

brittle basin
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i like it.

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drama is awesome

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shake up the system

frigid gulch
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I mean it’s fine that he thinks it’s bad

ashen perch
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you'd hear sometimes, about their influence on the series, through the authors themselves

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but editors dont even admit it themselves, because again, lowkey

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this guy just wants to be the centre of the attention THAT Bad

runic dock
brittle basin
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Wihawk

ashen perch
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he clashed with Toriyama a lot too lol

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he based a villain off of him

runic dock
ashen perch
iron oriole
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Sounds like the guy wishes he was the mangaka instead

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And is salty about it

runic dock
ashen perch
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I am pretty sure he said that Dragon Ball is a work entirely without substance

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but yeah, he's not a dude that is to be taken seriously lol

runic dock
grand flower
brittle basin
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DBZ was fun, but I never looked into it very deeply.

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nor would i ever

ashen perch
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Oda said that he treats his editors in a special way, he considers them his first audience, he considers their criticism important, he encourages them to criticise him

distant vine
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At least there's some readers out there who appreciate Torishima's wisdom

runic dock
ashen perch
runic dock
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It’s for a 14 year old

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Not for adults to dissect

distant vine
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One Piece is for 14 year olds too

ashen perch
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no editor has ever mentioned that they were working under DICTATOR ODA, they have all had nice things to say about him LUL

prisma idol
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I forgot is torishima the one who said op wouldn't succeed

ashen perch
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yeah

brittle basin
prisma idol
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Yeah no I just think the dude hates the series😭

brittle basin
runic dock
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Not emotional like sad

distant vine
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Tbf, if all you have is early Romance Dawn

brittle basin
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Early Romance Dawn is great. It's always been great.

ashen perch
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that is not what they all had though Indi

distant vine
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Its not the craziest manga ever

brittle basin
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you can't say "it's early romance dawn." early romance dawn is great. it caught on for a reason

runic dock
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Enies lobby is the arc that made me spazz as a young teen

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Arlong park was nice but I was violently shaking in my chair to Enies lobby

ashen perch
ashen perch
ashen perch
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but he still knew what the series was meant to be

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he just thought ''oh its too much for kids, they will be overwhelmed, its too complex'' etc etc

brittle basin
ashen perch
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you cant really even get that sort of opinion out of Romance Dawn anyways, its a pretty basic story

brittle basin
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Earl just frothing at the mouth as Robin screams "I WANT TO LIVE!"

runic dock
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Literally was

distant vine
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Lowkey...let him cook?

runic dock
ashen perch
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maybe Torishima was hearing Oda explain HK regeneration to him and had enough of the dude

brittle basin
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it's probably for the best editors can't tell Oda what to do

prisma yacht
runic dock
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😤

brittle basin
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I want Oda's unhinged vision

prisma yacht
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Breathtaking

brittle basin
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if oda wants more giant babes with honkers, who am I to complain? it's called "vision"

runic dock
ashen perch
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the editors do have the power to say no, thats literally part of their job

runic dock
ashen perch
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an author just cannot be a dictator

brittle basin
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and oda can just say "fuck you" right back, right?

prisma yacht
runic dock
brittle basin
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what are they gonna do? fire Oda? surely that would hurt them?

ashen perch
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yeah it is a collaborative process, but then Oda has to convince them why his vision is better

runic dock
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There are zoro ones but I’m not here to glaze Zoro

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He’s had enough glaze

urban lodge
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That's definitely ai right?

royal orchid
ashen perch
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they cant fire Oda, but if he's going horribly wrong for example

runic dock
ashen perch
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they would step in ofc

distant vine
runic dock
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I’ve been posting the same guy I think

urban lodge
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Luffy's scar is on the wrong side

ashen perch
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editors have historically played that role, theres popular series where the original vision barely even resembles the edited one

brittle basin
glacial bear
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The god knights gonna be animated. Oh boy. I’m just awaiting their debut in the OPTCG 😭 @runic dock

runic dock
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The 3 rainbow ones I know at least aren’t ai, the first three I posted, thy were tagged by an artist

ashen perch
distant vine
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I wonder if there's a compilation of stuff we know the editors suggested

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GLR has a video I think but I want a text summary

ashen perch
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theres actually not a lot with One Piece

prisma yacht
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So

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Biblu models are already out

urban lodge
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I love going through the openings frame by frame

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You can see Dorry and Broggy nika dancing

hot cairn
distant vine
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Do we have the opening yet?

hot cairn
hot cairn
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it’s alright

ashen perch
# ashen perch theres actually not a lot with One Piece

First editor told him that Nami/his female characters werent cute enough, so he made her cuter
He told him that Shanks losing his arm would add more to that moment
He told Oda that Luffy kind of looks too scary, so Oda slightly modified the design
In Sabaody, an editor told Oda to spice up the arc, leading to the creation of the Supernovas
In Dressrosa, an editor heard Senor Pink's story that only was meant to be for the notes and databooks. He urged Oda to include it in the manga.

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this is basically the entire list

glacial bear
hot cairn
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the egghead ones were better honestly

glacial bear
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Exacto Jesús

hot cairn
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this one is alright

urban lodge
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I think this one is better than 27

dark nymph
prisma yacht
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Why did you snail that

ashen perch
prisma yacht
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Ur so rude

hot cairn
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nothing to go home about

glacial bear
hot cairn
prisma yacht
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Rude

glacial bear
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LY FR0NSEN 💜

distant vine
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Its ok

prisma yacht
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Lyt saya

distant vine
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It feels weird how contained to Early Elbaph it is, but if the speculation that it ends with HK reveal is right, it makes sense

dark nymph
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appetizer opening, the great one is for Rocks flashback

iron oriole
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Jesus, i have a question

distant vine
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In comparison to Us, there was just so much it could do with all those B plots

runic dock
hot cairn
dense rapids
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Bro not apart of the team

distant vine
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Why they put Dadadan in an OP GIF Lmao

dense rapids
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🤣🤣🤣🤣

dense rapids
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I was like who tf is that 🤣

dense rapids
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Then I realized

hot cairn
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the greatest one piece opening

urban lodge
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26 might never be surpassed

ashen perch
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if you've read Romance dawn V1, you kinda see what he means

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Luffy is unhinged here

distant vine
hot cairn
iron oriole
dense rapids
urban lodge
hot cairn
iron oriole
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Yeah that ones a banger

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Always gets me dancing

distant vine
ashen perch
ashen perch
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which is kind of the issue the editor had

distant vine
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Bachibachi no limit koko kara ga
ONE PIECE!

hot cairn
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that opening is so fun

hot cairn
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so much shit went down in Egghead

iron oriole
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The intro to Us is what gets me every time

dense rapids
prisma yacht
ashen perch
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v2 is where Luffy's design has been modified a little bit

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and he looks softer and kinder

final trench
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Gum gum bandana kinda tuff

glass plume
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No scar?

ashen perch
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and then ofc, by the time we get to One Piece, its a lot softer

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yeah

glass plume
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Peacemains and morganeers

ashen perch
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always a legendary fruit btw

dark nymph
dapper tree
iron oriole
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Oda just be saying every fruit is worth 5b huh

distant vine
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Had another vision today

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Its the end of Elbaph. Imu defeated Luffy and Loki and is about to deal the final blow

dense rapids
iron oriole
glacial bear
glass plume
hot cairn
dense rapids
ashen perch
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this is whats inside the egg on Oro Jackson btw

final trench
iron oriole
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I know...

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Buggy being too serious all the time

dense rapids
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Ohh

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Nvm

dark nymph
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Luffy still looks unhinged in some panels

fast pagoda
glass plume
dark nymph
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not as often these days tho

dense rapids
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I think Shanks will meet with Davy Jones similar to how he met with Whitebeard

Idk how, idk when

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If Davy Jones = Burn Scar

dark nymph
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memorable

dense rapids
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He’ll tell him to stop his descendant (bb) just like Shanks told WB to stop his son

glass plume
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Davy Jones is dead

dense rapids
glass plume
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He's dead

glacial bear
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Well. Could be either or, fellas.

cold steppe
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It's told he's alive iirc

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Underwater or something

dense rapids
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Davy Jones is cursed to the sea floor where he lives

glass plume
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Cursed to the sea floor is another way of saying the bloke died by drowning

dense rapids
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Not impossible for the previous king of the world to be immortal

glacial bear
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The best channel

dense rapids
distant vine
hot cairn
ashen perch
# hot cairn oh this is interesting, if Oda had this in mind I wonder why was Nika introduced...

While he was working on Strong World, he mentioned that timing is important to him when it comes to the secrets of the Main Characters, like Nami's backstory was scrapped there because it was far too early to tell it. I imagine he made Gomu Gomu look regular for the same reason.

Really all the SHs, they have by design a lot of mysterious elements to them from the start, that Oda gets to one by one including some that he still hasnt gotten to yet. Timing is very important to him

dense rapids
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Maybe Davy Jones is at Lodestar

hot cairn
distant vine
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He's gonna have to sell me on more Nami background

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Just like he'll have to sell me on Brook and Shuri

glass plume
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Davy Jones is only alive through Blackbeard

ashen perch
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I am sold on Brook and Gunko already, really excited to see it

iron oriole
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Same

distant vine
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Hold on, let Buggy cook

dense rapids
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Davy Jones is 100% still alive

glass plume
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Through Blackbeard, yes

dense rapids
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He’s just cursed

distant vine
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Return to FMI Arc + Davy Jones Arc?

trim lily
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100% is quite a bold prediction

dense rapids
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Just like how Jack was at the bottom of the sea

distant vine
dark nymph
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throwing that reveal in the same chapter as Gaban slicing summers was so peak, and then Imu after Goda

glass plume
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Davy Jones is suffering the same fate as Kid did

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They both are on the sea floor

dense rapids
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And Bartolomeo

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They went to Davy jones locker

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And when he appears we will see them again

ashen perch
cold steppe
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They reached all blue

ashen perch
dense rapids
glass plume
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Come on not you too Arsal

ashen perch
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you know, with the Enel/Imu parallel

glass plume
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Davy Jones is 100% dead

dense rapids
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I swear Davy Jones will play the same role WB played in Marineford

pulsar path
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Murals in the opening

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First five seconds

glass plume
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The only way he is living, is through the will of Blackbeard

ashen perch
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Buggy I dont know if we've talked about this

dark nymph
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mfs hold Oda to a higher standard than other authors fr

dense rapids
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Whitebeard vs Sengoku (Buddha)

Davy Jones vs Imu (God)

ashen perch
dense rapids
ashen perch
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and really, if Davy was the king of the world before Imu

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then he fits in so well

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he is the former Kami, former God

dense rapids
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Davy D Buggy

distant vine
glass plume
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Y'all lost me

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This is wild

dense rapids
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Ignore the buggy part that’s like 50/50

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But Davy jones is alive

glass plume
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The Buggy part is better than Davy Jones literally being alive, lol

iron oriole
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Buggy is a Manmayer, not Davy

ashen perch
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Imu - Enel
Davy - Ganfall
Davy - Burnscar too

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this is what i think

cold steppe
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But blackbeard not being the one is not that wild

ashen perch
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to put it simply

cold steppe
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Happened with ace

dense rapids
ashen perch
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yeahh

glass plume
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What the fuck

ashen perch
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its pretty simple brach smh

dense rapids
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“I’ve never met him”

glass plume
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Sure is, I just don't believe any of it lol

dense rapids
glass plume
ornate tartan
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burn scar is a new character

dense rapids
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Shanks will meet with Burn Scar to discuss the black sheep Blackbeard

dense rapids
ashen perch
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this is whats about to happen in the Heaven Realm, the Sky Island of Elbaf

glass plume
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Shanks going to Blackbeards ancestor, ah yeah that's likely.

dense rapids
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Ganfall riding Pegasus

glass plume
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This theory is triggering me, lol

dense rapids
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Blackbeard riding Pegasus

ashen perch
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BB riding

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yeah

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youre seeing it

hazy turret
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who in africa is voting uta to number 1

dense rapids
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Davy jones riding Pegasus

ashen perch
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I thought it was you Rokaya

glass plume
ashen perch
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dont you love Film Red?

hazy turret
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im an uta hater

dense rapids
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Naw Arsal I been saying this since Davy name drop but people think I’m crazy

ornate tartan
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yall want every dead person to come back to life😂

how would davy jones be alive if he’s from the void century unless he has immortality

hazy turret
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ive never seen film red

ashen perch
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no I know you hate her

glass plume
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Davy Jones being cursed to the sea floor is obviously just another way of saying he died by drowning or some shit like that

ashen perch
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but Uta is very popular, its not a surprise

glass plume
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Not literally cursed to roam the sea floor

urban lodge
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I've been saying Uta will be top 10

hazy turret
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i would expect her to be popular in japan or something

ashen perch
distant vine
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Uta hate is so corny

ashen perch
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Uta is going to be top 20, you all are not ready

dense rapids
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The legend says his alive on the sea floor

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Not dead

glass plume
distant vine
glass plume
fallow maple
dense rapids
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Half Giant Half Fishman

cold steppe
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Sorry

ornate tartan
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davy jones being alive would be weird

glass plume
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No, I'll stop discussing this. I am actually getting triggered lol

hazy turret
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oda is trying to cash in on the whole vtuber/idol thing and im good on that

ornate tartan
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isn’t blackbeard supposed to be the modern davy jones

dense rapids
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Wotans only appeared in DB arc and once again by Gaban

dense rapids
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Davy Jones is a Wotan

ashen perch
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I dont think he has to be, but it would be cool for sure

dense rapids
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Joy boy is a buccaneer

ashen perch
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definitely good point on the Wotan, in the Davy arc too...

dense rapids
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Both of them have giants blood mixed with something

cold steppe
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They're basing it off on the actual legend. It's not that weird

distant vine
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And its not really a trend. Theyre just popular

glass plume
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Japan loves Uta don't they?

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Or well, Ado in general

dense rapids
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If DJ was the previous God it’s not impossible to think he’s either immortal or long living

Imu couldn’t kill him so he cursed him to the bottom of the sea

hazy turret
trim lily
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so does africa and south america it seems

distant vine
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So anytime he did it would have looked like cashing in really

dense rapids
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Hell Imu could be flood wording so Davy Jones can’t reach the surface

glass plume
trim lily
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no

ornate tartan
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uta surged really high in the votes

trim lily
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top 5 in japan is boring

ornate tartan
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but i’m not complaining

glacial bear
glass plume
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It's obviously bots then.

ornate tartan
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lucci was there a couple weeks ago

distant vine
ashen perch
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we are so close to the Heaven Realm man

hazy turret
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there's been a worldwide spike in popularity, they were popular before in certain countries sure

cold steppe
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Is this the final vote ?

glass plume
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I've heard it's ending in august

trim lily
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it ends in like june

urban lodge
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Not even close

trim lily
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oh even later

cold steppe
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Oh

glass plume
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I don't know why they're dragging it out

urban lodge
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It's june 11

glass plume
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It should've been 1 vote per life

urban lodge
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August will be the results

glass plume
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Then people wouldn't as easily be able to bot it

trim lily
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well they allegedly are fighting bot votes

glass plume
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Good luck

ashen perch
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lmao, I forgot Oda did a misleading silhouette gag

trim lily
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that’s why luffy isn’t number 1

glass plume
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It seems impossible to combat

glacial bear
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@trim lily who’s in the top five for South America and Africa?

glacial bear
brittle basin
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Luffy is always number 1 and deservedly so.

hazy turret
glass plume
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I think people just take for granted that Luffy will be top 1 that's why people don't vote on him.

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Hell I am one of them.

glass plume
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I think the straw hats being in the top 5 is boring as fuck even though they deserve it

brittle basin
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First person I voted for was Luffy. Because I care, Oda. I care.

glacial bear
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Luffy is the only good character in the series

trim lily
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oh shes top 5 in the middle east too

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the uta sweep is real

pulsar path
glass plume
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Next results we'll see fucking Wapol be in the top 5

fallow maple
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this really is a new genesis

pulsar path
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Wtf

trim lily
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i still cant fathom sanji being #1

pulsar path
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So guys

trim lily
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do north americans really like him that much

red lagoon
pulsar path
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Anime is more canon than manga now

glacial bear
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SANJI RULES THE AMERICAS SON

pulsar path
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They show usopp waking NamI up

red lagoon
ashen perch
pulsar path
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In Lego land

trim lily
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yeah

ashen perch
dense rapids
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Davy Jones might ride atop the ROC

dense rapids
trim lily
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the anime is supposed to expand on scenes in the manga and clarify things

final trench
trim lily
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its oda's intent for usopp to wake her up limesNodders

ashen perch
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these speedreaders in Toei...

glacial bear
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Matter of fact. I’m contributing to the Sanji upvote

pulsar path
dense rapids
pulsar path
ashen perch
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@ toei READ

glass plume
# dense rapids Davy Jones might ride atop the ROC

You know what, I'll agree to this theory if they bring back Roger, Xebec, Ace, Whitebeard, Joyboy, Nika, God of War, The 20 origina kings, Magnolia, Xebec's father, mother, grandfather, grandmother and uncle.

glacial bear
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WANJIIII

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!wanji

tropic novaBOT
glacial bear
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Wish there was a better image

red lagoon
ashen perch
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whatever Toei has done, its completely impossible

trim lily
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oda is LAZY and doesnt review the anime at all

dense rapids
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Davy Jones foreshadowing with Abyss marks

glass plume
ashen perch
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Davy never died

glass plume
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Bring back Emeth too.

dense rapids
urban lodge
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Dw haki ghosts are only a matter of time

trim lily
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shanks will be the first when he dies to bb

dense rapids
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It’s different if he was said to be dead

glass plume
dense rapids
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Since the beginning it’s said Davy is alive

final trench
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Awakened brook*BBWise BBWise BBWise BBWise

rustic coral
dense rapids
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But cursed

ashen perch
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you guys are ignoring the Ganfall parallel here

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so hard

trim lily
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the ganfall and davy jones parallel

ashen perch
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literally going lalalala over it

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instead of hearing it

glass plume
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It's silly to me.

dense rapids
red lagoon
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Speak of the parralele

ashen perch
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I think Davy will be good

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He wont be on BB's side

dense rapids
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“Davy jones being alive is a retcon”

ashen perch
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he will be on Luffy's side

glass plume
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So Blackbeard is just the ugly duckling?

urban lodge
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Oda won't resist making him the goodest kindest boy

dense rapids
red lagoon
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Do u think nika is good or bad

trim lily
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theres nothing to retcon about davy jones when theres next to no information about him in the first place

ashen perch
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the Ganfall parallel clicked for me a few months ago and it just makes so much sense

dense rapids
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Blackbeard = Vander Decken

trim lily
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good

red lagoon
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Or joyboy or whatever

dense rapids
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He will do this his own way

glass plume
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If Davy Jones is truly alive and has been for all this time, then why the fuck hasn't we heard any fishmen talk about him.

glacial bear
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BB and VD being related would be crazy

ashen perch
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former Kami - Ganfall
former King - Davy

Opposing the current Kami - Enel
Opposite the current King - Imu

dense rapids
trim lily
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goda

red lagoon
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Ok ok

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Imu a lunarian who clip his wings like enel maybe

ashen perch
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doesnt even have to be a thing for the parallel to work but that also adds to it yeah

glass plume
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When will Joyboy come back in the flesh?

dense rapids
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Davy Jones will recognize Buggy as his true successor

trim lily
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never

glass plume
#

Maybe he is hiding on Laughtale

red lagoon
#

Never he dead as fuck

glass plume
ashen perch
#

but yea, Davy being alive isnt redundant, when Blackbeard and he will have entirely different roles.

dense rapids
#

Joy boy is dead Luffy literally has his fruit

trim lily
glass plume
dense rapids
#

Unless Luffy is Joy boy from the future

ashen perch
#

Davy has not even once been declared dead

trim lily
#

davy hasnt been declared anything

dense rapids
glass plume
#

Cursed to roam the sea floor certainly implies death.

rustic coral
trim lily
#

hes barely a character

ashen perch
dense rapids
glass plume
glass plume
ashen perch
#

roaming implies life

glass plume
#

"Oooh watch out for the ghost of Davy Jones down there!"

trim lily
glacial bear
#

I think Blackbeard is Davy jones

ashen perch
#

we could never rule it out

trim lily
#

id love if we could have legends stay legends, just folk tales

glacial bear
#

From the past

dense rapids
#

WEVE ALREADY SEEN ONE PERSON SUBMIT TO A SIMALAR CURSE AND LIVE

#

Davy jones is alive

glacial bear
#

Blackbeard being part fishmen would be crazy son

ashen perch
#

Oda even uses the word LIVE for Davy Jones, I am pretty sure

#

lemme see

dense rapids
trim lily
#

as long as you dont reference the sbs ill believe you

ashen perch
#

cursed to live at the sea floor, yeah

glacial bear
pulsar path
# ashen perch he was WOKEN UP by the cat-lion eating him, he was not conscious before it

this is obviously just speculation but I would guess they have more time to ask oda about thing for the anime now with the 26 epaidoes a year and more time in-between which I'm guessing is them working on it during that time so it snot crazy to think that they sent a list of questions over and oda retconed/fixed things for a general veiwer as he says in alabasta sbs when it son anime way more people are paying attention to it than with the manga plus the chapter that that line that usop has is frome on of the most inconsistent chapter I ever read that dropped on a weekly sword axe things and all that

glacial bear
dense rapids
ashen perch
#

Right

#

LIVES

#

thats the most alive man ever

glass plume
trim lily
#

depends on how you want to interpet it now

#

davy jones for whatever reason is an actual character so you cant really exclude anything

dense rapids
#

Kidd was the first to bring up burn scar

He was sunk and now he will go to Davy Jones Locker where he will meet Burn Scar

Aka DAVY JONES

ashen perch
#

Do you not remember the Hawkins incident illma?

trim lily
#

im choosing to still interpret it as a folk tale but i think its valid to interpret it literally

ashen perch
#

when the anime declared that Drake was the 1% man, only for it to actually be Hawkins.

glass plume
#

I'd actually prefer Blackbeard to be the one who takes over Davy Jones legacy

#

Right as I am starting to like Blackbeard more, people bring up Davy Jones being alive

trim lily
#

thatd make sense given hes following rocks

ashen perch
#

Blackbeard will not even be alive when Davy Jones is playing his final war role tbh

dense rapids
#

Mu and Davy are binded by fate

They might literally still be tied to each other till death

trim lily
#

oh i forgot davy was in the love triangle, though imu is giving mixed signals here

pulsar path
dense rapids
pulsar path
#

This whole production is being done different than wano

ashen perch
#

oh yeah he will, but thats before the final war

dense rapids
ashen perch
glass plume
#

Oda even says that he was a no-good pirate

#

Sounds a lot like a certain Teach

dense rapids
#

Sounds like Buggy

ashen perch
#

this is the historical real life perspective

#

what Robin said is the canon

trim lily
#

hes explaining the myth robin told

pulsar path
trim lily
#

theyre the same thing

glass plume
# dense rapids

yeah sure, i don't care what Buggy ends up doing he'll fail upwards like always

trim lily
#

davy back fight is the unique one

ashen perch
#

which is the real life ones obviously

#

you can just stick to the manga version, thats our canon story.

glass plume
#

Oda even says "But the Davy Jones Robin mentions in Volume 33 is a well-known legend among sailors in real life."

#

Robin is refering to the same one

dense rapids
#

Also this is One Piece

WG probably spewed 800 years of lies about Davy being a no good pirate when he was probably the opposite

ashen perch
#

the real Davy Jones doesnt actually have to be a no good pirate, he could be good

urban lodge
#

Cringe

dense rapids
ashen perch
#

youre not seeing it Penny

urban lodge
#

But it will happen

glass plume
#

I am not seeing it either

urban lodge
#

You're right

ashen perch
#

this is not the BB/Xebec type of character

#

this is Ganfall 2.0

#

and Ganfall was awesome

glass plume
#

Really?

#

You think that Davy Jones will be like Ganfall

ashen perch
#

I do

frail kindle
#

You mean a guy who invented a game that lets you steal crew members is a good guy?

dense rapids
#

“Scars still run deep”

“God return”

Davy Jones, the man with the burn scar, previous king of the world

trim lily
#

davy only wanted to have a fun sports festival but the EVIL imu twisted it into something wicked...

ashen perch
#

the game was made after him...

#

he didnt make the game...

dense rapids
#

^

glass plume
#

Davy D. Jones was a fun little goober wasn't he

#

No ill will towards anyone

dense rapids
#

Davy back fight are in honor of Davy jones

ashen perch
#

yeah

urban lodge
#

Yeah he will be the purest boy

glass plume
#

Joyboy will be the villain at this point

dense rapids
#

I think DBF basically tells you how to defeat Imu or what you should do

urban lodge
#

Nah, only Imu, Imu is the only one capable of evil

ashen perch
#

you guys dont have to hate on Ganfall out of your hatred for BB and Xebec

frail kindle
ashen perch
restive lintel
trim lily
#

so is there anything to the ganfall thing other than him being a king and enel having a god complex

glass plume
ashen perch
glass plume
urban lodge
#

I just don't want him to be literally alive

ashen perch
#

Robin said that he LIVES at the sea floor

trim lily
elfin mica
#

Any leaks on 1180 or is that mid week?

glacial bear
#

I think it’s cool that Loki breathes electricity ⚡️ instead of fire

trim lily
#

monday or tuesday

ornate tartan
#

@glass plume they tried to make rocks a hero now davy jones is next😭

dense rapids
elfin mica
glass plume
#

It'll end up being Blackbeard as a hero and Luffy as the villain of the story

trim lily
#

goda

ornate tartan
#

I bet davy was even worse then Imu

glass plume
#

"Zehahaha, You think you can claim my birthright as the pirate king MUGIWARA!"

rustic coral
glass plume
#

"Dereshsishishis I will activate gear death and KILL YOU!"

trim lily
#

we love bad faith arguments

ornate tartan
#

gear death is my nightmare

#

may it never happen

dense rapids
#

When DJ meets Luffy he will think he’s JB

wraith mantle
#

we here boys

ornate tartan
ashen perch
dense rapids
#

It’s all there

#

If you can’t see it then idk

glass plume
#

So that's Davy Jones?

dense rapids
#

Davy Jones is alive

trim lily
#

yep they both got a beard and a nose

ashen perch
#

you guys are so uncreative

rustic coral
#

@ashen perch do you think davy jones started as a gag and now turned into an important clan

ashen perch
#

nah I think he was always important

trim lily
trim lily
#

a values difference if you will

ashen perch
#

what is the reason for this opposition

rustic coral
#

why did Oda draw him in the sbs then

dense rapids
trim lily
#

i just dont care about davy jones as a character so thats my reasoning lol

ashen perch
#

oh my god, then just wait

dense rapids
#

Davy Jones is the pirate everyone in our entire world knows about

ashen perch
#

wait for Oda to make you care 😭

dense rapids
#

And Blackbeard

trim lily
glass plume
#

I've grown to like Blackbeard more and more after seeing how people really want to see the guy in the final picture, but Davy Jones still being alive... That would just destroy the whole goal that Blackbeard is aiming for..

glass plume
#

Blackbeard inheriting the will of the Davy clan...

rustic coral
#

Wait Arsal thinks Davy Jones is alive???

dense rapids
#

BLACKBEARD HAS HIS OWN WILL

glass plume
dense rapids
#

HE WONT DONWHAT ROCKS OR DAVY DDID

final trench
ashen perch
urban lodge
#

You will

glass plume
#

Don't get the wrong idea though, I still love Imu

trim lily
#

i feel like blackbeard carrying on rocks will is a pretty big part of him

#

given how much hes trying to follow in his footsteps

final trench
#

As long as you know the truth

dense rapids
final trench
#

I entrust it onto you…

ashen perch
#

its going to be great when the man himself tells him that he is an idiot

trim lily
#

who even knows what rocks wants for the world

ashen perch
#

Davy himself will oppose Blackbeard

trim lily
#

all we know is he wants to "be king of the world"

glass plume
urban lodge
#

To house the homeless and feed the poor of course

final trench
#

Individual 💔

ashen perch
#

I dont think you guys are ready for the next thing I was going to say...

ashen perch
#

but maybe just maybe

dense rapids
ashen perch
#

Blackbeard is like Hody

fluid nest
trim lily
#

in what sense

#

is blackbeard a davy supremacist

glass plume
glass plume
#

Okay just making sure

dense rapids
#

I barely talk about buggy because it’ll happen

final trench
#

Davy D Buggy COULD exist

dense rapids
#

Like always

trim lily
#

i dont think blackbeard is particularly racist either given hes fine with sanjuan or vasco shot

final trench
#

Im not opposed to it tbh

dense rapids
glass plume
#

I like the idea of Buggy being a Davy I won't lie

dense rapids
glass plume
#

but I like the idea that he inherited Rocks will even more and Blackbeard inherited Davy Jones will

final trench
#

He does have kingle ambitions and blue hair

#

So theres a chance

#

He aint rocks son 🗿🗿🗿🗿 but he could he a remnant of the davy

dense rapids
trim lily
#

i think anyone else other than blackbeard being a surviving davy is bad

glass plume
#

Just Buggy inheriting Rocks will would be cool

dense rapids
trim lily
#

wasnt the whole point of god valley that these were the last davies

final trench
#

Same way luffy has rogers will but they’re not related

fluid nest
#

Guys pls clear my confusion in latast chapter we see how domi reverse can be reversed then howtf xebec died I mean he should recover instantly just like the people getting in elbalf after getting free

ashen perch
# trim lily is blackbeard a davy supremacist

Yes, he believes he was chosen by fate and all that, but in reality his dreams are entirely void of substance. Maybe Davy didnt even want anyone to pursue the throne, Blackbeard just thinks he should avenge his ancestors because thats how it should be

final trench
#

It would be a handful tho likely

trim lily
#

am i confusing it for the buccaneers

dense rapids
#

There were at least 5-6 on GV not counting rocks Eris and Teech

ashen perch
#

no tae is right

dense rapids
#

So who knows how many there are

glass plume
final trench
dense rapids
#

And the fact it’s called God Valley

#

Davy was the previous God

trim lily
#

i feel like itll hold a lot more weight if blackbeard is the last of the davies

final trench
final trench
#

But i think we must have more 👀

dense rapids
#

Davy Valley
God Valley

glass plume
#

Shanks and Shamrock are probably either Davy or Joyboy lineage

dense rapids
ashen perch
#

God Valley is just the home of Xebec's family, I dont think it was mentioned that it was the home to all Davy

#

unless I am missing something

final trench
glass plume
#

Man I love Emeth's design

ashen perch
#

the Davy at God Valley were just Xebec and his extended family

dense rapids
#

Davy Crocodile

final trench
#

Davy D Crocodile MIGHTTTTTT BE TUFF

fluid nest
#

Which leaker do you guys follow for weekly leaks?

final trench
glass plume
#

Hear me out... Davy D. Foxy

final trench
#

Rocks family + other davies who found their way there

ashen perch
#

there can easily be more out there, their existence is not limited to just God Valley

final trench
#

He is keeping the tradition alive

glass plume
ashen perch
#

the underworld is a vast network, they could be spread anywhere

rustic coral
#

Guys

final trench
#

Or he knew a davy clansmen

dense rapids
#

Who knows how many there really were

rustic coral
#

I just realised BB's ship is called Saber of Xebec

ashen perch
#

yeah

glass plume
final trench
#

👀

#

Peak

dense rapids
#

Aka all D might be Davy

glass plume
#

What was the name of Xebecs sword now again?

#

Eclipse?

trim lily
dense rapids
trim lily
#

they say they can wipe them out once and for all

rustic coral
#

yoooooooooo

#

Goda

trim lily
#

correct

dense rapids
glass plume
#

Btw I think that Imu's weapon will be called "Anguis" which means Serpent

dense rapids
#

The Davy’s will have giant blood but it won’t be through buccaneer

#

It’ll be because of Wotan

native cloud
final trench
ashen perch
final trench
#

🌗🌗🌗

glass plume
fluid nest
#

What if dragon get sided with BB

trim lily
ashen perch
dense rapids
#

My list for other Davy are

Brook
Buggy
Croc
Maybe Kidd

trim lily
#

they equate them to buccaneers because both are hated groups

final trench
thick mango
final trench
#

Gotta be dragon vs blackbeard

ashen perch
#

even if somehow every single Davy is in God Valley, Kuma could have saved many of them anyays

dense rapids
trim lily
final trench
#

Yea kuma saved like 500 civilians

fluid nest
grand flower
fluid nest
thick mango
final trench
#

Kidds mom was a davy. shamrock killed her. Now kidd hates shanksBBWise BBWise BBWise BBWise

ashen perch
dense rapids
#

I like the theory that Blackbeard will bring Imu food

native cloud
dense rapids
fluid nest
ashen perch
glass plume
dense rapids
trim lily
# ashen perch never said to be all

it says everyone who got chased down got transformed (and the everyone in question likely referring to the other davies), but i guess kuma couldve possibly saved one while running

dense rapids
#

He’ll Gunko could be a Davy for all we know

native cloud
fluid nest
trim lily
#

also i feel like we skipped over someone other than imu being able to do domi reversi

dense rapids
#

She’s from the west blue

trim lily
#

imu wasnt here yet and they got domi'd

ashen perch
glass plume
native cloud
#

He created

glass plume
#

Xebec knew he couldn't do shit though

ashen perch
#

it means ''everyone that was chased down got affected by that ability'' , we dont know what happened offscreen, but we can assume that Garling had a hand in it

glass plume
#

He went to Marijoa and then dipped

glacial bear
#

I dunno about Davy jones being alive. But I do definitely believe Rocks and Buggy are related

fluid nest
#

I think oda fumbled the domi reversi concept and how it can be reversed

tough dust
trim lily
glass plume
#

Chopper is the forest god

native cloud
#

For us to even move forward here on this argument we need to establish that Rocks was never the villain in the story

fluid nest
tough dust
#

oh will that makes sense lol

ashen perch
trim lily
#

nevermind, at this point im just arguing to try and confirm my own bias

glacial bear
#

Sanji kicking Luffy in whole cake island is making me cry

glass plume
#

Seen the theories around the area which the flames are surrounding, is an area where everyone in it will automatically be domi reversed?

thick mango
dense rapids
#

For some time people have said Imu = Squid based on all the ones we see in color spreads etc

But I think that could be Davy Jones animal since Davy Jones is connected to the kraken

glass plume
#

Like look here, the trees and houses appear to be domi reversed.

#

Maybe all of the villagers also will get domi reversed.

glacial bear
tough dust
#

wouldn't classify those as domi reversed

glass plume
tough dust
#

its just they came to life

trim lily
#

also kind of funny big mom refers to it as the fish fruit here and not yknow the dragon fruit

fluid nest
pulsar path
rustic coral
pulsar path
#

I mean

#

There is

trim lily
#

its model is dragon

royal orchid
pulsar path
#

Two actually

glass plume
#

Perospero didn't deserve that shit

royal orchid
#

also it is the fish fish fruit

glacial bear
#

Perosperooooooo

glass plume
#

Katakuri would've been goated as a dragon

fluid nest
#

Imu will take all the smoke in the upcoming chapters🔥

glass plume
trim lily
#

you wouldnt go around calling every dinosaur zoan a lizard fruit

pulsar path
glass plume
fluid nest
thick mango
#

This is the moment where rocks should have invoked justice if that's something he cares about, he didn't

royal orchid
glass plume
stone terrace
#

Thats hardly major

native cloud
fallow maple
#

the giraffe fruit is a model of the ox ox fruit, kaido being a "fish" doesn't mean shit

glass plume
grand flower
fluid nest
tough dust
#

wouldn't mind that being dorry and brogy

frail kindle
glass plume
#

Or... What if Imu kills Colon

fluid nest
trim lily
cunning narwhal
glass plume
tough dust
#

Colon got knocked out by imus coc twice in 1 arc, leave him out of this 😭

glass plume
native cloud
#

Loki being king of warland would be nice but that’s just me

#

I don’t know about the other guy

cunning narwhal
glass plume
#

Alright hear me out here... What if Loki dies and Hajrudin takes Ragnir and the fruit.

thick mango
#

To me rocks posture re the WG and power is, we dont have to respect them as this monolithic eternal instution that we accept is inevtiable. They can be overthrown just like anyone else. And if we overthrow them, we can have all the power instead. He probably would be a decent bit better than imu but i do still think the goal/desire is essentially selfish/greedy, not altruistic or motivated by a sense of justice

glass plume
#

"I'll avenge you my brother... Elbaph, to WAR!"

opal gull
urban lodge
cunning narwhal
glacial bear
#

Imu ain’t killing anyone in this arc

glass plume
cunning narwhal
#

Gaban is a goated character

glass plume
stone terrace
#

Ill take gaban dying

glass plume
# urban lodge True

C: "Hey Loki..."

L: "Huh?.. What do you want brat."

C: "I think you're... Pretty... Uh... COOL!"

Loki: BepoBlush

cunning narwhal
native cloud
native cloud
thick mango
royal orchid
# urban lodge

I like how some people here refuse to call him by his name and go to Colón, Collon or Colin instead

fossil nimbus
trim lily
#

looking rather devious

urban lodge
#

I call him Collun

stone terrace
#

Yea i mean if you name your kid sphincter you deserve death

glass plume
native cloud
royal orchid
thick mango
glass plume
dense rapids
#

In a perfect world either

Davy Jones appears and saves everyone from Imu

Davy Jones appears and talks to Shanks

glacial bear
royal orchid
#

Sommers fan club gathering here today

glacial bear
#

YES

glass plume
#

Man fucking ulr

dense rapids
#

DOMAIN EXPANSION

glass plume
stone terrace
#

We all love sommers

dense rapids
#

Oh wrong manga nvm

fossil nimbus
#

Feel bad for anime onlys. This episode was basically filler

native cloud
dense rapids
#

They’ll be Alr in like 2 episodes

royal orchid
#

do you think anime onlys will glaze road in the cow skull mask before his face is revealed

fossil nimbus
cunning narwhal
#

Did it adapt just one chapter again

pulsar path
#

Shit ik like people aren't big fans of GLR

royal orchid
pulsar path
#

But he's kinda cooking right now with the soul weight theory

glass plume
#

GLR is the guy who said someone was an gaping anus right?

royal orchid
#

and it will stay that way

glacial bear
#

Sommers & Reiju are among my top 5

#

Buggy the clown too cuz he’s funny as hell

dense rapids
#

Just set Zoro fans up for a generation 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

pulsar path
#

But what he's saying is

glass plume
#

I swear he did that

pulsar path
#

Imu has 21 grams of soul that they gave out

cunning narwhal
thick mango
#

I think the vegapunk soul weight thing is just a nod to a real-life experiment rather than a hint we're supposed to scrutinize

cunning narwhal
#

Gotta dream big guys

pulsar path
#

Maybe they only can have 13 seals because they lost ththo other pieces over the years

royal orchid
#

ZKMU

dense rapids
glass plume
#

Holy shit I shouldn't have googled that

pulsar path
#

Wtf did you Google

glass plume
#

I didn't think

glass plume
#

I wanted to get the conflict lol