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but the only person who alleges that is a former Dragon Ball editor who literally HATES Oda. So its absolutely false
THIS DUDE
is who I am talking about lol
I think Toriyama passing kinda scared Oda & made him want to speed up
are there any juicy details about his time with Oda?
Lmao who is torishima? Another editor?
no he never worked with Oda
That brother is something else
so why does he hate him?
he just told Oda that his manga would never succeed
I get that he doesn't want to be an old man when one piece ends but I'd rather have him taking more breaks for the sake of his health than increasing the pace of the story
he is still extremely mad about it, literally an old man
yelling at the clouds type of dude
I genuinely don't think Oda cares much about his health no matter what he says in any SBS or volume intro.
Imagine saying this shit & then it becomes the best selling manga of all time & one of the best comic series of all time in general
Didn't we recently pass Batman in sales?
this was Kakushigoto, its pretty funny
I applaud him for his pettiness.
Torrented the entire episode just to get the Gunko frame in higher quality
A former Dragon Ball editor
Well Oda wants to travel the world with family. I don’t blame him for trying to end the story now
Ohhh. An old head
God old people are so stubborn
Correct. Long time ago it seems
he even opposed the serialization of One Piece
I am in awe of your simpness. I need to up my game. Quick! Someone get my high-res Ripley!
Thank you
Apparently he thinks One Piece is too confusing for kids
She's not in the op sadly
she is on the flying bird thingy. not much though
Eh. Sounds like he’s already made up his mind. Even tho he’s wrong
Bitter old dude
i mean, OP is confusing in that it can be very hard to keep up with unless you're like a hardcore fan.
I feel like any long series could be
he has alleged that:
Oda is a dictator, and his editors are all fanboys who would never and can never say anything against him
The story is too complex and cluttered to follow for the Shonen Jump audience
Oda's more focused on the anime and live action than the manga, he doesnt care about the manga as much anymore
yeah, it's the nature of the beast. A Song of Ice and Fire is the same way. Hell, keeping up with all 7 seaons of buffy is extremely difficult.
the anime thing is literally verifiably false, Oda's not even involved in it like that lol
Oh wow
I feel like the last one has to be a lie.
I really would love to know or even imagine what specific changes Torishima would make lol

Dumbass saying dumbass shit basically, whoda thunk it
Man is so salty that he was wrong about one piece never becoming popular
Half true
I will agree with this. I've also never seen Super.
That’s crazy disrespectful. That was Toriyama’s last work
Slice of Life Vegeta when?
its funny, he's like the first editor to cause so much drama
editors are meant to be lowkey
I mean it’s fine that he thinks it’s bad
you'd hear sometimes, about their influence on the series, through the authors themselves
but editors dont even admit it themselves, because again, lowkey
this guy just wants to be the centre of the attention THAT Bad
Wihawk
it was that bad
I am pretty sure he said that Dragon Ball is a work entirely without substance
but yeah, he's not a dude that is to be taken seriously lol
He’s right
Oda said that he treats his editors in a special way, he considers them his first audience, he considers their criticism important, he encourages them to criticise him
At least there's some readers out there who appreciate Torishima's wisdom
fork found in kitchen
It’s for young teens , I watched the third arc , the most popular arc ever , on tv as it was airing on toonami at 14 years old , I cried
Whatever Torishima says, it is just false
One Piece is for 14 year olds too
no editor has ever mentioned that they were working under DICTATOR ODA, they have all had nice things to say about him 
I forgot is torishima the one who said op wouldn't succeed
yeah
I don't think I cried from DBZ. It pumped me up though. But I was like 11 at the time, of course it would pump me up.
Yeah no I just think the dude hates the series😭
It was hype tears
can we get a Dictator Oda emoji?
Not emotional like sad
Tbf, if all you have is early Romance Dawn
Early Romance Dawn is great. It's always been great.
that is not what they all had though Indi
Its not the craziest manga ever
you can't say "it's early romance dawn." early romance dawn is great. it caught on for a reason
Enies lobby is the arc that made me spazz as a young teen
Arlong park was nice but I was violently shaking in my chair to Enies lobby
in these editor meetings where you pitch the manga, its just going to be just the first chapters that youre selling to them, its the whole series too
yes Torishima only had the Romance Dawn v1 and v2 to look at on paper
It is great
but he still knew what the series was meant to be
he just thought ''oh its too much for kids, they will be overwhelmed, its too complex'' etc etc
earl violently shaking is kind of funny to imagine
you cant really even get that sort of opinion out of Romance Dawn anyways, its a pretty basic story
Earl just frothing at the mouth as Robin screams "I WANT TO LIVE!"
Deadass tho
Literally was
Torishima would have seen what Oda was cooking with Advanced COC and throw it all out
Lowkey...let him cook?
Torishima would have rejected Zoro drug pills and would have given him a 10 minute death skeleton sequence
maybe Torishima was hearing Oda explain HK regeneration to him and had enough of the dude
it's probably for the best editors can't tell Oda what to do
Oh my god
😤
I want Oda's unhinged vision
Breathtaking
if oda wants more giant babes with honkers, who am I to complain? it's called "vision"
It’s nice
the editors do have the power to say no, thats literally part of their job
oda is a hack
an author just cannot be a dictator
and oda can just say "fuck you" right back, right?
This one is kinda meh compared to the others
what are they gonna do? fire Oda? surely that would hurt them?
yeah it is a collaborative process, but then Oda has to convince them why his vision is better
That's definitely ai right?
Fortnite ass model
they cant fire Oda, but if he's going horribly wrong for example
No it’s an artist
they would step in ofc
I’ve been posting the same guy I think
Luffy's scar is on the wrong side
editors have historically played that role, theres popular series where the original vision barely even resembles the edited one
This is what I call high art.
The god knights gonna be animated. Oh boy. I’m just awaiting their debut in the OPTCG 😭 @runic dock
The 3 rainbow ones I know at least aren’t ai, the first three I posted, thy were tagged by an artist
(Naruto is a big example of this)
Frrrr
I wonder if there's a compilation of stuff we know the editors suggested
GLR has a video I think but I want a text summary
theres actually not a lot with One Piece
I love going through the openings frame by frame
You can see Dorry and Broggy nika dancing
what does that mean, that the current story is way different than what it was going to be?
Do we have the opening yet?
yeah
TVアニメ「ONE PIECE」
毎週日曜夜11:15より全国フジテレビ系にて放送中
オープニング主題歌
アイナ・ジ・エンド
「ルミナス - Luminous」
#ONEPIECE #大海賊時間 #今週のアニワン
it’s alright
First editor told him that Nami/his female characters werent cute enough, so he made her cuter
He told him that Shanks losing his arm would add more to that moment
He told Oda that Luffy kind of looks too scary, so Oda slightly modified the design
In Sabaody, an editor told Oda to spice up the arc, leading to the creation of the Supernovas
In Dressrosa, an editor heard Senor Pink's story that only was meant to be for the notes and databooks. He urged Oda to include it in the manga.
this is basically the entire list
TVアニメ「ONE PIECE」
毎週日曜夜11:15より全国フジテレビ系にて放送中
オープニング主題歌
アイナ・ジ・エンド
「ルミナス - Luminous」
#ONEPIECE #大海賊時間 #今週のアニワン
the egghead ones were better honestly
Exacto Jesús
this one is alright
I think this one is better than 27
when was the 3rd cause I love that death stare Luffy gives a couple times in the series
Why did you snail that
yeah, theres some major changes
Ur so rude
nothing to go home about
Oh easily by a mile
pre One Piece
look up
Rude
It’s okay I’ll beat Jesús up if he’s genuine about it
LY FR0NSEN 💜
Its ok
But jesus is a friend 😔
Lyt saya
It feels weird how contained to Early Elbaph it is, but if the speculation that it ends with HK reveal is right, it makes sense
appetizer opening, the great one is for Rocks flashback
Jesus, i have a question
In comparison to Us, there was just so much it could do with all those B plots
Can’t wait for 20 different version of gunko card , including imugunko
content wise too, this one doesnt hit as the egghead ones either
Bro not apart of the team
Why they put Dadadan in an OP GIF Lmao
🤣🤣🤣🤣
opening 26 is so peak
I was like who tf is that 🤣
Then I realized
the greatest one piece opening
26 might never be surpassed
this was the design that the editor described as scary and offputting
if you've read Romance dawn V1, you kinda see what he means
Luffy is unhinged here
Kokoro no Chizu is still my favorite but I get it. Us just has that pure spectacle and hupe from start to finish
it’ll probably end with chapter 1138 (mural chapter)
26 is "Us"?
yep
Joy boy will basically look like this but older
Yeah
yes
Feel like the last of this is in Syrup Village when he threatens to kill the pirates laughing at Usopp
yeah I was thinking the same too
true, but he looks scarier
which is kind of the issue the editor had
that opening is so fun
Monkey D. Pao
so much shit went down in Egghead
The intro to Us is what gets me every time
Joy boy at the beginning and end of VC
In Mumbai pao means bread
v2 is where Luffy's design has been modified a little bit
and he looks softer and kinder
Gum gum bandana kinda tuff
No scar?
Peacemains and morganeers
always a legendary fruit btw
yea thank god this was changed
let there be peace in our times
Oda just be saying every fruit is worth 5b huh
Had another vision today
Its the end of Elbaph. Imu defeated Luffy and Loki and is about to deal the final blow
Only law fruit worth that much
@dense rapids
Oh my god I can only imagine the scalpers lmao. Plus the branded “Waifu tax” lmao
Why not Dragon?
oh this is interesting, if Oda had this in mind I wonder why was Nika introduced/mentioned so late in the story
That’s from romance Dawn
this is whats inside the egg on Oro Jackson btw
Garp backstory #pending
Luffy still looks unhinged in some panels
He looks surprisingly normal but also still off without the scar
More like a pirate
not as often these days tho
I think Shanks will meet with Davy Jones similar to how he met with Whitebeard
Idk how, idk when
If Davy Jones = Burn Scar
memorable
He’ll tell him to stop his descendant (bb) just like Shanks told WB to stop his son
Davy Jones is dead
He’s alive
He's dead
Well. Could be either or, fellas.
Davy Jones is cursed to the sea floor where he lives
Wtf is this from
Cursed to the sea floor is another way of saying the bloke died by drowning
Not impossible for the previous king of the world to be immortal
Or even just able to age old ssl
Another massive L for the LRLL haters
Grandline review
While he was working on Strong World, he mentioned that timing is important to him when it comes to the secrets of the Main Characters, like Nami's backstory was scrapped there because it was far too early to tell it. I imagine he made Gomu Gomu look regular for the same reason.
Really all the SHs, they have by design a lot of mysterious elements to them from the start, that Oda gets to one by one including some that he still hasnt gotten to yet. Timing is very important to him
Maybe Davy Jones is at Lodestar
I guess so, but it makes people who say that “it wasnt planned” be right
He's gonna have to sell me on more Nami background
Just like he'll have to sell me on Brook and Shuri
Davy Jones is only alive through Blackbeard
I am sold on Brook and Gunko already, really excited to see it
Same
Hold on, let Buggy cook
Davy Jones is 100% still alive
Through Blackbeard, yes
He’s just cursed
Return to FMI Arc + Davy Jones Arc?
100% is quite a bold prediction
Just like how Jack was at the bottom of the sea
Wait, what if BB falls to the sea floor while invading FMI and then meets Davy Jones @dense rapids
throwing that reveal in the same chapter as Gaban slicing summers was so peak, and then Imu after 
See I think this happened to Kidd
And Bartolomeo
They went to Davy jones locker
And when he appears we will see them again
Eh they are wrong but regardless, I dont think it even matters, if it fits in seamlessly then its good. Nothing has ever needed to be planned, Oda's just insane about it but no author has ever needed to perfectly plan out things
They reached all blue
burn scar...
^
Come on not you too Arsal
you know, with the Enel/Imu parallel
Davy Jones is 100% dead
I swear Davy Jones will play the same role WB played in Marineford
The only way he is living, is through the will of Blackbeard
Buggy I dont know if we've talked about this
mfs hold Oda to a higher standard than other authors fr
Whitebeard vs Sengoku (Buddha)
Davy Jones vs Imu (God)
but I think Burn Scar is going to be Imu's Ganfall
“God come back to us”
and really, if Davy was the king of the world before Imu
then he fits in so well
he is the former Kami, former God
And who would have had the submarine to reach him...
The Buggy part is better than Davy Jones literally being alive, lol
Buggy is a Manmayer, not Davy
But blackbeard not being the one is not that wild
to put it simply
Happened with ace
Knight of the Sky
Devil of the Sea
yeahh
What the fuck
its pretty simple brach smh
“I’ve never met him”
Sure is, I just don't believe any of it lol
He’s alive
No shit, since he is dead.
burn scar is a new character
Shanks will meet with Burn Scar to discuss the black sheep Blackbeard
Burn Scar will be Davy Jones
this is whats about to happen in the Heaven Realm, the Sky Island of Elbaf
Shanks going to Blackbeards ancestor, ah yeah that's likely.
Like I said
Ganfall riding Pegasus
This theory is triggering me, lol
Blackbeard riding Pegasus
who in africa is voting uta to number 1
Davy jones riding Pegasus
I thought it was you Rokaya
The computers
dont you love Film Red?
im an uta hater
Naw Arsal I been saying this since Davy name drop but people think I’m crazy
yall want every dead person to come back to life😂
how would davy jones be alive if he’s from the void century unless he has immortality
It's so lame
ive never seen film red
no I know you hate her
Davy Jones being cursed to the sea floor is obviously just another way of saying he died by drowning or some shit like that
but Uta is very popular, its not a surprise
DAVY JONES NEVER DIED
Not literally cursed to roam the sea floor
I've been saying Uta will be top 10
i would expect her to be popular in japan or something
Davy wouldnt be coming back to life, he would have just never died
Uta hate is so corny
Uta is going to be top 20, you all are not ready
What's next, you're going to say that he is the ancestor to all fishmen?
W for her
No he’s a Wotan
It's also a legend, it's not anything factual
really just feels like 'popular thing bad'
Half Giant Half Fishman
need I say more
davy jones being alive would be weird
No, I'll stop discussing this. I am actually getting triggered lol
oda is trying to cash in on the whole vtuber/idol thing and im good on that
isn’t blackbeard supposed to be the modern davy jones
Wotans only appeared in DB arc and once again by Gaban
nah
Davy Jones is a Wotan
I dont think he has to be, but it would be cool for sure
Joy boy is a buccaneer
definitely good point on the Wotan, in the Davy arc too...
Both of them have giants blood mixed with something
They're basing it off on the actual legend. It's not that weird
Idols have existed for a long time
And its not really a trend. Theyre just popular
If DJ was the previous God it’s not impossible to think he’s either immortal or long living
Imu couldn’t kill him so he cursed him to the bottom of the sea
thats....what a trend is though ?
so does africa and south america it seems
So anytime he did it would have looked like cashing in really
Hell Imu could be flood wording so Davy Jones can’t reach the surface
What are the Japan results, is Uta there too?
no
uta surged really high in the votes
top 5 in japan is boring
but i’m not complaining
Que paso? For who?
It's obviously bots then.
lucci was there a couple weeks ago
Well what I mean is that its not a short term fad. If it was then I think that cynical interpretation would be more fair
we are so close to the Heaven Realm man
there's been a worldwide spike in popularity, they were popular before in certain countries sure
Is this the final vote ?
I've heard it's ending in august
it ends in like june
Not even close
oh even later
Oh
I don't know why they're dragging it out
It's june 11
It should've been 1 vote per life
August will be the results
Then people wouldn't as easily be able to bot it
well they allegedly are fighting bot votes
Good luck
lmao, I forgot Oda did a misleading silhouette gag
that’s why luffy isn’t number 1
It seems impossible to combat
@trim lily who’s in the top five for South America and Africa?
Luffy fatigue might be possible but still crazy to witness
Luffy is always number 1 and deservedly so.
it spiked in popularity after the 2010's and has been getting more and more popular. oda wants to connect with younger generations, he even says so when made that statement about not making the villain someone who isnt another boring old man
I think people just take for granted that Luffy will be top 1 that's why people don't vote on him.
Hell I am one of them.
south america and africa
I think the straw hats being in the top 5 is boring as fuck even though they deserve it
First person I voted for was Luffy. Because I care, Oda. I care.
Luffy is the only good character in the series
Bits bots bots !!! Terminator incoming
Next results we'll see fucking Wapol be in the top 5
this really is a new genesis
Wtf
i still cant fathom sanji being #1
So guys
do north americans really like him that much
Fathom it
Anime is more canon than manga now
SANJI STILL NUMBER ONE LESGOOOOO
SANJI RULES THE AMERICAS SON
They show usopp waking NamI up
My goat
yupp
In Lego land
yeah
this is literally impossible
Davy Jones might ride atop the ROC
Since ganfall bird transformed into a horse
the anime is supposed to expand on scenes in the manga and clarify things
No point tbh
its oda's intent for usopp to wake her up 
these speedreaders in Toei...
Matter of fact. I’m contributing to the Sanji upvote
Can some one draw what ganfall could have been
Confirmed robot running this acc
I'm watching it right now
@ toei READ
You know what, I'll agree to this theory if they bring back Roger, Xebec, Ace, Whitebeard, Joyboy, Nika, God of War, The 20 origina kings, Magnolia, Xebec's father, mother, grandfather, grandmother and uncle.
Wish there was a better image
he was WOKEN UP by the cat-lion eating him, he was not conscious before it
whatever Toei has done, its completely impossible
oda is LAZY and doesnt review the anime at all
Davy Jones foreshadowing with Abyss marks
Then I'll accept Davy Jones not dying.
Davy never died
Bring back Emeth too.
Davy jones never died
Dw haki ghosts are only a matter of time
shanks will be the first when he dies to bb
It’s different if he was said to be dead
Bring back Marco's father as well, he probably never died either
Since the beginning it’s said Davy is alive
Awakened brook*

But cursed
the ganfall and davy jones parallel
I don't see the point of Davy Jones being alive when we have Blackbeard
It's silly to me.
OP fans will ignore everything until they see it happen then they’ll say it wasn’t foreshadowing but a retcon
Speak of the parralele
he will be on Luffy's side
So Blackbeard is just the ugly duckling?
Oda won't resist making him the goodest kindest boy
The Black Sheep
Do u think nika is good or bad
theres nothing to retcon about davy jones when theres next to no information about him in the first place
the Ganfall parallel clicked for me a few months ago and it just makes so much sense
Blackbeard = Vander Decken
good
Or joyboy or whatever
Uninherited Will
He will do this his own way
Explain it a lil
If Davy Jones is truly alive and has been for all this time, then why the fuck hasn't we heard any fishmen talk about him.
BB and VD being related would be crazy
former Kami - Ganfall
former King - Davy
Opposing the current Kami - Enel
Opposite the current King - Imu
goda
doesnt even have to be a thing for the parallel to work but that also adds to it yeah
When will Joyboy come back in the flesh?
Davy Jones will recognize Buggy as his true successor
never
Maybe he is hiding on Laughtale
Never he dead as fuck
Davy Jones is as well
but yea, Davy being alive isnt redundant, when Blackbeard and he will have entirely different roles.
Joy boy is dead Luffy literally has his fruit
youre right
Thank you.
Unless Luffy is Joy boy from the future
Davy has not even once been declared dead
davy hasnt been declared anything
Not even by Imu
Cursed to roam the sea floor certainly implies death.
Chapter 1
hes barely a character
no it does not
How can you roam if you’re dead…..
It does, it's essentialy the same as drowning
It's not literal, it's a ghost story
roaming implies life
"Oooh watch out for the ghost of Davy Jones down there!"
unfortunately we cant rule it out now
I think Blackbeard is Davy jones
we could never rule it out
id love if we could have legends stay legends, just folk tales
From the past
WEVE ALREADY SEEN ONE PERSON SUBMIT TO A SIMALAR CURSE AND LIVE
Davy jones is alive
Blackbeard being part fishmen would be crazy son
“Lives at the sea floor”
as long as you dont reference the sbs ill believe you
cursed to live at the sea floor, yeah
this is obviously just speculation but I would guess they have more time to ask oda about thing for the anime now with the 26 epaidoes a year and more time in-between which I'm guessing is them working on it during that time so it snot crazy to think that they sent a list of questions over and oda retconed/fixed things for a general veiwer as he says in alabasta sbs when it son anime way more people are paying attention to it than with the manga plus the chapter that that line that usop has is frome on of the most inconsistent chapter I ever read that dropped on a weekly sword axe things and all that
Not from sbs
This is literally Robin telling a ghost story
depends on how you want to interpet it now
davy jones for whatever reason is an actual character so you cant really exclude anything
Kidd was the first to bring up burn scar
He was sunk and now he will go to Davy Jones Locker where he will meet Burn Scar
Aka DAVY JONES
Oda fixed all the mistakes, he did not change the line. Oda's word is more canon than anything the anime will ever do lol
Do you not remember the Hawkins incident illma?
im choosing to still interpret it as a folk tale but i think its valid to interpret it literally
when the anime declared that Drake was the 1% man, only for it to actually be Hawkins.
I'd actually prefer Blackbeard to be the one who takes over Davy Jones legacy
Right as I am starting to like Blackbeard more, people bring up Davy Jones being alive
thatd make sense given hes following rocks
Blackbeard will not even be alive when Davy Jones is playing his final war role tbh
Mu and Davy are binded by fate
They might literally still be tied to each other till death
oh i forgot davy was in the love triangle, though imu is giving mixed signals here
That anime is different than this anime
I don’t agree
I think Davy Jones will actively go against BB
This whole production is being done different than wano
oh yeah he will, but thats before the final war
And if Davy Jones has a fruit that’ll be the fruit BB gets not Imu’s
Aka kraken
maybe, but Oda's word is still final.
Sounds like Buggy
hes explaining the myth robin told
Yeah but he be lying!
theyre the same thing
yeah sure, i don't care what Buggy ends up doing he'll fail upwards like always
davy back fight is the unique one
he's talking about the different accounts that exist about him
which is the real life ones obviously
you can just stick to the manga version, thats our canon story.
Oda even says "But the Davy Jones Robin mentions in Volume 33 is a well-known legend among sailors in real life."
Robin is refering to the same one
Also this is One Piece
WG probably spewed 800 years of lies about Davy being a no good pirate when he was probably the opposite
the real Davy Jones doesnt actually have to be a no good pirate, he could be good
Cringe
Rocks
youre not seeing it Penny
But it will happen
I am not seeing it either
You're right
this is not the BB/Xebec type of character
this is Ganfall 2.0
and Ganfall was awesome
I do
You mean a guy who invented a game that lets you steal crew members is a good guy?
“Scars still run deep”
“God return”
Davy Jones, the man with the burn scar, previous king of the world
davy only wanted to have a fun sports festival but the EVIL imu twisted it into something wicked...
^
Davy back fight are in honor of Davy jones
yeah
Yeah he will be the purest boy
Joyboy will be the villain at this point
I think DBF basically tells you how to defeat Imu or what you should do
Nah, only Imu, Imu is the only one capable of evil
you guys dont have to hate on Ganfall out of your hatred for BB and Xebec
Play a game with him?
That's worse! Lol
this guy will LOVE Luffy
so is there anything to the ganfall thing other than him being a king and enel having a god complex
I am not hating on Ganfall, I am hating on the idea that Davy Jones would be like Ganfall
This guy will support Luffy with his LIFE
And that's why we love them
I just don't want him to be literally alive
Robin said that he LIVES at the sea floor
i feel like this dynamic can apply to almost every arc in one piece
Any leaks on 1180 or is that mid week?
I think it’s cool that Loki breathes electricity ⚡️ instead of fire
monday or tuesday
@glass plume they tried to make rocks a hero now davy jones is next😭
Luffy will free Davy jones from his curse
Hopefully Monday
I am scared of the future
It'll end up being Blackbeard as a hero and Luffy as the villain of the story
goda
I bet davy was even worse then Imu
"Zehahaha, You think you can claim my birthright as the pirate king MUGIWARA!"
Like the irl One Piece Oda dropped yoooooooooooooooooo
"Dereshsishishis I will activate gear death and KILL YOU!"
we love bad faith arguments
When DJ meets Luffy he will think he’s JB
we here boys
yessir bro😎
About this, I was wondering what would have allowed him to move in the first place. I am thinking maybe the incident with FMI 200 years ago that was linked by Robin to Emeth's attack at Marie Geoise is key here.
So that's Davy Jones?
Davy Jones is alive
yep they both got a beard and a nose
you guys are so uncreative
@ashen perch do you think davy jones started as a gag and now turned into an important clan
nah I think he was always important
its hard to get on board with an idea im so opposed to
Lowkey cooking
a values difference if you will
what is the reason for this opposition
why did Oda draw him in the sbs then
Literally mentioned before joy boy in the series
i just dont care about davy jones as a character so thats my reasoning lol
oh my god, then just wait
Davy Jones is the pirate everyone in our entire world knows about
wait for Oda to make you care 😭
And Blackbeard
well the ideas youve given out dont exactly instill hope in me
I've grown to like Blackbeard more and more after seeing how people really want to see the guy in the final picture, but Davy Jones still being alive... That would just destroy the whole goal that Blackbeard is aiming for..
No it’s not
Thats great
Blackbeard inheriting the will of the Davy clan...
Wait Arsal thinks Davy Jones is alive???
BLACKBEARD HAS HIS OWN WILL
Yes, I never thought the day would come. But he is entertaining as fuck.
HE WONT DONWHAT ROCKS OR DAVY DDID
You wont regret it my friend
I dont think his design is a big deal, thats really it
You will
Don't get the wrong idea though, I still love Imu
i feel like blackbeard carrying on rocks will is a pretty big part of him
given how much hes trying to follow in his footsteps
Thats fine and dandy
As long as you know the truth
WELCOME TO THE CLUB
He will avenge rocks but what rocks and Davy want for the world will be nothing to what Blackbeard wants
I entrust it onto you…
its going to be great when the man himself tells him that he is an idiot
who even knows what rocks wants for the world
Davy himself will oppose Blackbeard
all we know is he wants to "be king of the world"
I know that Blackbeard will serve with Imu and they'll take down Luffy together as a joint effort and then open a megalopony with Crocodile as the mayor, yess.
To house the homeless and feed the poor of course
Individual 💔
I dont think you guys are ready for the next thing I was going to say...
exactly
but maybe just maybe
“You may be Davy but you’re not him… Buggy my son, the throne is yours”
Blackbeard is like Hody
BB gonna smack the sh*t out of shanks
Shon
Is this whole theory just there so you can preach about Buggy being related to Davy Jones 
No
Okay just making sure
I barely talk about buggy because it’ll happen
Davy D Buggy COULD exist
Like always
i dont think blackbeard is particularly racist either given hes fine with sanjuan or vasco shot
Im not opposed to it tbh

I like the idea of Buggy being a Davy I won't lie
but I like the idea that he inherited Rocks will even more and Blackbeard inherited Davy Jones will
He does have kingle ambitions and blue hair
So theres a chance
He aint rocks son 🗿🗿🗿🗿 but he could he a remnant of the davy
i think anyone else other than blackbeard being a surviving davy is bad
Just Buggy inheriting Rocks will would be cool
Davy D Buggy is real
wasnt the whole point of god valley that these were the last davies
Same way luffy has rogers will but they’re not related
Guys pls clear my confusion in latast chapter we see how domi reverse can be reversed then howtf xebec died I mean he should recover instantly just like the people getting in elbalf after getting free
Yes, he believes he was chosen by fate and all that, but in reality his dreams are entirely void of substance. Maybe Davy didnt even want anyone to pursue the throne, Blackbeard just thinks he should avenge his ancestors because thats how it should be
Yes.
Rocks said the davy name holds weight in the underworld, so i think there is still SOME out there
It would be a handful tho likely
am i confusing it for the buccaneers
There were at least 5-6 on GV not counting rocks Eris and Teech
no tae is right
So who knows how many there are
I think he was refering to his family who were still on God Valley as refugees
I think since roger and garp used all their haki to put rocks down it affected him both times
i feel like itll hold a lot more weight if blackbeard is the last of the davies
Yea theres some davy clan members there
I see
But i think we must have more 👀
Davy Valley
God Valley
Shanks and Shamrock are probably either Davy or Joyboy lineage
Crocodile
Davy Crockett
God Valley is just the home of Xebec's family, I dont think it was mentioned that it was the home to all Davy
unless I am missing something
Shamrock🔥
👀 now holup
Man I love Emeth's design
the Davy at God Valley were just Xebec and his extended family
Which leaker do you guys follow for weekly leaks?
Could be both
Hear me out... Davy D. Foxy
Rocks family + other davies who found their way there
there can easily be more out there, their existence is not limited to just God Valley
Yeah
the underworld is a vast network, they could be spread anywhere
Guys
Or he knew a davy clansmen
They’re a whole clan like Shimotsuki
Who knows how many there really were
I just realised BB's ship is called Saber of Xebec
yeah
Foxy was raised by a Davy clan elder.
Aka all D might be Davy
i feel like this implies this is the final remnant
While Davy is the main branch
they say they can wipe them out once and for all
because he is acting on Xebec's ambition
yoooooooooo
Goda
correct
Also that buccaneer line is a red herring
Btw I think that Imu's weapon will be called "Anguis" which means Serpent
The Davy’s will have giant blood but it won’t be through buccaneer
It’ll be because of Wotan

Buggy
Kid
I don’t know man
Yea
the CDs can believe it, that doesnt make it true.
Also, we do know that many were allowed to escape from God Valley by Kuma anyways
🌗🌗🌗
What if dragon get sided with BB
i dont think its about them being giants, i think its just the CDs being hateful lol
its not like they actually succeeded in killing them all lol
My list for other Davy are
Brook
Buggy
Croc
Maybe Kidd
they equate them to buccaneers because both are hated groups
Too OP
im expecting the opposite. WG sends BB against Revos as a part of their negotaitions
Gotta be dragon vs blackbeard
Foxy too
even if somehow every single Davy is in God Valley, Kuma could have saved many of them anyays
Yea Foxy makes sense
didnt they all get domi reversi'd
Yea kuma saved like 500 civilians
Like kids parent
And buggys
But BB is now acting on its own right?
Kid is most likely out of this list

hes currently in negotiations with the WG to get recognition.
Kidds mom was a davy. shamrock killed her. Now kidd hates shanks

never said to be all
I like the theory that Blackbeard will bring Imu food
Rocks was never a villain or wanted power. He just wanted to destroy the system. You got people in the WG trying to do that
And that they’ll ally
I see he might be cooking
and Foxy's
"Mu loves cherry pie..!"
Bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣
it says everyone who got chased down got transformed (and the everyone in question likely referring to the other davies), but i guess kuma couldve possibly saved one while running
He’ll Gunko could be a Davy for all we know
Well Teach on the other hand is a different story
Bro literally faces imu as a side quest🤧
Thats the tragedy
also i feel like we skipped over someone other than imu being able to do domi reversi
She’s from the west blue
imu wasnt here yet and they got domi'd
I think everyone means everyone that Garling chased down
Domi reversion portable version
To destroy the system
He created
Xebec knew he couldn't do shit though
it means ''everyone that was chased down got affected by that ability'' , we dont know what happened offscreen, but we can assume that Garling had a hand in it
He went to Marijoa and then dipped
I dunno about Davy jones being alive. But I do definitely believe Rocks and Buggy are related
I think oda fumbled the domi reversi concept and how it can be reversed
aint that hes main quest lol
but the two main examples we see are his davy relatives, and rocks is running with his davy wife and kid
Chopper is the forest god
For us to even move forward here on this argument we need to establish that Rocks was never the villain in the story
I am referring to his famous panel of" I will be back"
oh will that makes sense lol
yeah, I just dont think this means every single Davy clan member was affected by it lol. Of the 500 that Kuma saved? there must've been more Davy
nevermind, at this point im just arguing to try and confirm my own bias
Sanji kicking Luffy in whole cake island is making me cry
Seen the theories around the area which the flames are surrounding, is an area where everyone in it will automatically be domi reversed?
Rocks never says anything that suggests he cares about justice or altruism, he only talks about seizing power for himself. People project these good intentions onto him because he turned out to be not as bad as we expect and had the good quality of caring about his family
For some time people have said Imu = Squid based on all the ones we see in color spreads etc
But I think that could be Davy Jones animal since Davy Jones is connected to the kraken
Like look here, the trees and houses appear to be domi reversed.
Maybe all of the villagers also will get domi reversed.
We have to kill the houses
wouldn't classify those as domi reversed
I like the idea of the houses taking the kids
its just they came to life
also kind of funny big mom refers to it as the fish fruit here and not yknow the dragon fruit
Also he wanted the title of king of the world which now possesed by mu
Crazy it was really pesepero
its called fish fish fruit, there is no dragon fruit
its model is dragon
dolfius didn't know it got fixed to Perospero
Two actually
Perospero didn't deserve that shit
also it is the fish fish fruit
Perosperooooooo
Katakuri would've been goated as a dragon
Imu will take all the smoke in the upcoming chapters🔥
Everyone will be close to death
yes its the fish fruit but the model is dragon
you wouldnt go around calling every dinosaur zoan a lizard fruit
Kata would have become pirate king
Maybe not that far, but he would've been a cool dragon
Some major death incoming I can feel it
This is the moment where rocks should have invoked justice if that's something he cares about, he didn't
well they have their own category as ancient zoans
and dragons are fiction
Jarul.
Thats hardly major
Not really. Him approaching Harald was what gave away this whole thing. He wasn’t greedy or ambitious enough to try and overthrow the system case why he wanted help and to not do it alone
the giraffe fruit is a model of the ox ox fruit, kaido being a "fish" doesn't mean shit
I'll take what we can get
Kraken marked by flames
Friend of mine thinks Imu looks like foxy in base
Jarul is predictable i am a feeling that it might be someone unexpected
Gaban
wouldn't mind that being dorry and brogy
I see…
Because it's the dragon dragon fruit
Or... What if Imu kills Colon
Yeahh may be
well the point still stands lol
Oda dont do this 😭
Alright what about Ripley
Colon got knocked out by imus coc twice in 1 arc, leave him out of this 😭
That's something worth gloating about at school..
"Hey.. I was knocked out by the LITERAL DEVIL.. TWICE!"
Loki being king of warland would be nice but that’s just me
I don’t know about the other guy
That’d be less sad but imu doesn’t have to kill anyone to be imposing
Alright hear me out here... What if Loki dies and Hajrudin takes Ragnir and the fruit.
To me rocks posture re the WG and power is, we dont have to respect them as this monolithic eternal instution that we accept is inevtiable. They can be overthrown just like anyone else. And if we overthrow them, we can have all the power instead. He probably would be a decent bit better than imu but i do still think the goal/desire is essentially selfish/greedy, not altruistic or motivated by a sense of justice
"I'll avenge you my brother... Elbaph, to WAR!"
Gaban can die ig
Forget about agenda bro
Imu ain’t killing anyone in this arc
He'll totally look like Loki when he grows older
Gaban is a goated character
I can agree with this
It's a nice thought tho.
True
Ill take gaban dying
C: "Hey Loki..."
L: "Huh?.. What do you want brat."
C: "I think you're... Pretty... Uh... COOL!"
Loki: 
Man what if he kills loki
I just don’t like it when people compare him to Teach.
I mean those are two completely different people with different ambitions and goals
i think teach is definitely worse yeah even less good intentions in the mix, more selfishness/greed. The key example is rocks gave up his goals to save his family, bb killed his (adopted) family to further his pursuit of his goals
I like how some people here refuse to call him by his name and go to Colón, Collon or Colin instead
Peak
I'm one of them
looking rather devious
I call him Collun
Yea i mean if you name your kid sphincter you deserve death
What a twat 
I am going to name my kid Paragraph
And there people on here who like him 
sphincter is his little brother, he's a bit higher up
I like him because hes so unreedmably evil. theres room for that in a story
He wants to be like Dr. Eggman so bad
In a perfect world either
Davy Jones appears and saves everyone from Imu
Davy Jones appears and talks to Shanks
I LOVE HIM SO MUCH
Sommers fan club gathering here today
YES
Man fucking ulr
DOMAIN EXPANSION
We all love sommers
Oh wrong manga nvm
Feel bad for anime onlys. This episode was basically filler
I know, it’s just the evil man. I don’t think people understand what it takes to being like that
Legoland is basically filler filled with hidden meaning
They’ll be Alr in like 2 episodes
do you think anime onlys will glaze road in the cow skull mask before his face is revealed
Yeah but I just feel for them. Waiting like 4 months and then having to watch this
Did it adapt just one chapter again
Shit ik like people aren't big fans of GLR
yep
But he's kinda cooking right now with the soul weight theory
GLR is the guy who said someone was an gaping anus right?
and it will stay that way
Just set Zoro fans up for a generation 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
he what
I mean I think he's said that before probably yes lmao
But what he's saying is
I swear he did that
Imu has 21 grams of soul that they gave out
I feel like after zkk zoro fans lost all ambition
I think the vegapunk soul weight thing is just a nod to a real-life experiment rather than a hint we're supposed to scrutinize
Gotta dream big guys
Maybe they only can have 13 seals because they lost ththo other pieces over the years
zkk had me thinking Zoro was really gonna get the final blow
Holy shit I shouldn't have googled that
Wtf did you Google
I didn't think
GLR conflict gaping anus one piece
I wanted to get the conflict lol

