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I think the horns, clouds and tail all come from the fruit, maybe the hair and darkened skin too if it's red
but the clothes and the tattoos should be present in base too
Luffy's clothing changes when he's in Gear 5
no reason to think Imu's doesn't too
in colour only
its not like bro is summoning new pants and shoes
oda doesn't use shading for usopp or other supposed black characters, it's just king and the seraphim plus imu now
If the lore doesn't require a skin color I will bleach them white
-Oda
are you sure? I feel here in Elbaph Luffy's viking outfit disappeared when he was in Gear 5 with Loki
I mean thats just a tan bro imo, Oda just doesn't use normal shadings
his clothes stayed intact in wano, he lost his coat but still had his shorts in egghead, and even his first G5 transformation in elbaf used his viking outfit
but now he went back to his default outfit in G5
idk
maybe I didn't look closely enough
but I feel like his Viking outfit changes to his standard fit when G5
same as shanks, shamrock and magnolias red hair vs every other character with red hair
Idk man i don't pay attention to these kinds of stuff
he's got the elbaf fit here
Yeah
did you see WIT usopp? 
i also didn't think he changed back outfits
ty I remembered this scene with the Viking stuff
but when Luffy was on Loki he was in his standard attire?
maybe that'll change in volume release
yeah, idk why
probably just an Oda whoopsie
and then he's back in his elbaf fit after detransforming
ok so I know in the concept art all the characters are way too bright for some reason, even Nami looked weird there and in the proof of concept art pieces later they have more melanin
but still
Oda forgor
In their defence i’ll put this here
People noticed that, it was assumed it's an error
Toei gave that impression of darker skin
When are the wit episodes coming out?
It was a pretty big subject
Same with Robin
it looks so funny lmao, even luffy looks darker than usopp there
he got rid of it
I voted for his seraphim version that one looks the coolest ngk
yeah Toei is the one who has been making certain characters darker than they are, Usopp and Robin immediately spring to mind
yeah oda has never cared to draw him or the others dark-skinned or even with a tan, that's why I don't care that toei "took away their melanin"
Ohhhhh i need this in full picture
Was between the two but decided to.go.with the og
and now randomly Luffy is back in Viking clothing at the Walrus School with Loki
he then gets it back after de-transforming so idk, maybe oda did this for convenience and will change it in the volume release
g5 shenanigans
i don't even think its a melanin issue, f.e. Robin lived long time in a desert as we know white skinned people get tanned too xD
It's best to just say it's g5
proof? my pops ngl
And luffy can do anything
if I tell you Luffy is darker than usopp in toei piece as well 🙂↕️
matter of fact sanji is darker than toei piece usopp
I wonder how jacob romero gibson feels about animanga usopp
For me its just so hilarious that some people are so focused on the skin colour of the straw hats or op chars in general
maybe in post ts
pre ts wasnt the case
Look at DB they went pure racist
yeah I'm saying current one piece
cancel oda
it's about representation, I've never particularly cared even as someone with dark skin but I get the annoyance people have
if oda had actually drawn usopp and whoever else with dark skin to begin with and then toei bleached them, that would be terrible lol
check this shit
Ngl he looks like he doesn't care at all about one piece manga or anime
I blame Toei
out of the whole cast
and Oda
I wonder how oda felt designing those egghead fits knowing he would hardly ever draw them with how much the crew got sidelined
from what ik emily and mackenyu are manga readers, inaki also read it for research ig
taz and jacob don't really look like they've read it
Oh yeah but we already know toei is racist
what they did to ma bwoy usopp and sanji is crazy
cancel toei
I don't think he cares. Remember when Oda gave every strawhat a country of origin, while he gave usopp a continent 
Yeah i'm pretty sure Oda doesn't gaf
Flashback to the Robin alabasta design in anime
People upset that Robin is light-skinned
I'm pretty sure Oda didn't even gaf with the straw hat origins.. bro just looked up the biggest op fandoms in each country and just gave those to them
she was also light-skinned in oda's color spreads 
Ye but anime people dont read
ngl I find it a little funny how sanji got made to look worse in egghead
Huh? do you have a manga cover for this?
I saw people prefer Robin's tanned design over her light-skinned
he has been made to look worse since alabasta
Its like me in summer i get tanned and when winter hits i'm getting untanned
xD
toei skipped a fight he had with crocodile
I meant toei changing stuff like nami saving him against the seraphim but I'd say the decline begins in thriller bark
i might be colourblind cuz i don't see the lightskin in robin
Still slightly annoyed that Toei made Sanji have heart eyes for Bonney, that shit never happened in the manga
oh really? nvm then
that was bad yeah
she's got the same skin tone as the rest
Right? idk who said she was lightskinned
huh? first time hearing abt this
Goddamn when was that
usopp looks lightskin in that cover ngl
Toei hates Sanji with a passion
Egghead, after the whodunnit ended iirc
Toei hate sanji for no reason
But yeah the thing i hate, despise the most is that SANJI SLANDER
The people responsible should face at least 1-2 years jail
I saw that the first episode of Elbaf didn’t have Sanji’s closeup yet every other SH had one. It’s a minor thing but like… Why? It’s just hilarious.
I'm trying to find it but I might be misremembering, don't think it was croc
Toei used up all the sanji funds for the queen episode
I’ll never forgive toei for removing Sanji from the scene when the sh captured york
King of simps haki
Like that was the most unnecessary dick riding I’ve ever seen
that whole sequence where they made franky catch bonney was hilarious
We like to joke about it but i genuinely think Toei has something against Sanji...
Too many coincidences
At this point I have a feeling it’s Oda himself in Wormtongue fashion calling Toei and telling them to keep trolling.
imagine if sanji gets mid animation while zoro and nami both get sakuga next episode
I say nami because her bit looked really well-animated in the preview
and a goofy face
he'll be saving Nami and have that weird huge nose and lips thing toei does
i hope i didnt have this much aniexty
Who is WEV
NIGGA
reminds of me satan literally spawning right in front of the straw hats and sanji was still jumping like a lovesick idiot for nami
in the latest chapter
S tier animation
Satan isnt scary enough
lmao he didn't do this in the manga
U CAN SEE TBE GAP HE IS MEANT TO FILL
that was a wano-exclusive face
he literally wouldn't say nami swan in this scenario
he'd say Nami chan
oda is a hack
he's never said nami-chan
Nami-chwan
does he never say it in the manga?
sanji has a biological condition,its not his fault,all his family is like this
nope
oh wait he says nami san
Its cute of Sanji that he uses san for Nami & chan for Robin
San to make Nami feel older & more mature
Chan to make Robin feel younger
i miss old nami
Taz's commitment to Sanji is honestly scary
Anime sanji would have slid out of frame and crashed into a wall
Way I see it
Its basically magnum opus
From no martial arts to black belt taekwondo just for thr role is insane
Yeah i can see this being his magnum opus
You have arguably the role that shouldnt exist and yet you desired since forever
Now its yours
Dont fuck it up
Learned how to cook too
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Ngl even if his sanji role is done Taz can probably get by with a bunch of cooking / martial arts related roles
The martial arts skills that he's learned is enough to land him multiple roles in the future if needed
Long as he stays in shape since I believe they had to do a lot of physical training
vote imu
Its probably hard to stop anyway after going so hard at it, it would probably feel weird for him atp
Not for a while theyve already announced s3
They'll milk LA for as long as possible
That OPLA announcement was the most obvious shit ever
We already knew S3 was being filmed, i wish they announced that S4 was green lit
I wish they revealed Imu's colorscheme.
It won't be long. Based on loads of fanart I think most people will be disappointed
yeah it's google gemini bullshit
Thats the same photo that was the G5 wrong colour tattoo
Imu is a minion
People making fun of these kinda don’t really get tattoos lol
Even if they turn out inaccurate, a lot of tattoos are revisions and personal interpretations anyway
I have several tattoos that are modified versions of something else
but thats by your own intention
I would be pretty upset if i got a tattoo and it turned out to be inaccurate.

Sure but it’s not really a big deal
Like “haha Yamato didn’t become a straw hat”
Sure but that person is still a fan of Yamato
lota ppl get some bs the regret when it comes to tattoos, they make fun of it themseleves
Yeah people making fun of their own regrets is ome thing
I think it’s very lame to project that expectation on someone else when it comes to tattoos
Even the Yamato one that one could get by if they join later
Luffy with that yellow hair might not be accurate but the dude also might just like that image regardless
They don’t even have to do all that
Just “yeah I still love these characters so”
The Yamato one is really not bad at all people are acting like the girl ruined her life forever lol
Yeah it leaves a bad taste in my mouth as a proponent of tattoos myself
Yellow hair luffy g5 thats just super saiyan 
do yall think loki will join the crew
A persons tattoos are meaningful cause of them, not what other people think
No.
Unless it’s like, yo somebody straight up botched the design
Otherwise it doesn’t really sit right with my spirit
aw man
I think having inaccurate tattoos is really silly
Loki feels like he'd be an ally but not a crew member
Its like getting a luffy tattoo that isnt him
He's his own individualistic force that doesnt like the WG
Accuracy isn’t really the most important part of a tattoo
What’s important is, does the image resonate with who has it
blackbeard has a giant just sayin
I disagree to an extent but I mostly agree with you
Lilith: so I figured out a gigantification ray for sunny....and a shrink ray for loki
Loki: I have several problems with this
a giant with the giant fruit
he can walk on any of the seas without issue
Personally i'd hate it if my tattoos weren't accurate, thats partially why mine are in B/W & any future ones will also be B/W
I think as long as the person still enjoys the visual, all is well
with elbaf having an adam tree though its possible the sunny will get some sort of upgrade by the end of the arc (or some sort of tech that could shrink loki maybe)
oh you guys are talking about fire gear 5?
lmaoo
I don’t see it any differently than someone doint like a recolor or a rework of a design as art work tbh
chopper already invented a medicine that can reverse gigantification from punk hazard so he might be able to adapt it to loki
Started with an AI Imu tat but yeah
true, don't know what his reasoning was for it, I make the assumption that he regrets it now and even then its a little mean to laugh at that
Yeah I feel like people doing that is poor tattoo etiquette
Ik a lot of people arent doing it with passion for tattoos tho
It’s just haha wrong color
Lmao, I do remember when this used to be a criticism of the arc but that was all pre agenda piece and pre piratefolk, before discourse became as mind numbingly stupid
which one
I mean that's common here we start with buggy and go into the current socioeconomic status of marijoa
Snorlax and mew, getting a falinks one sometime this year
Sick.
This is an AI edit btw
i've been made aware yes lol
Gotcha gotcha
Jay D Legend and his audience would be calling the merry just so happening to pop up “Mickey”
They’d be calling Kokoro’s reveal and save “an asspull”
They’d be talking about how all the goofy moments is ruining the tension of robins story
They’d be calling Lucci a fraud for listening to usopp instead of finishing off Luffy, and they’d be calling Luffy getting back up after being paralyzed an ass pull
Pluton would be called a dropped plot point
Kashi, Omoi and the Galley La carpenters plus all the marines Luffy had to fight would be called “bloat” and “stalling”
And that's not even mentioning the Franky Family's fakeout lmao
U can have really emotional peak moments and still recognize theres some narrative bs that got there
Its just the peak outweighs the bs
That scene always gets me, would be absolutely SLAUGHTERED if it happened now. Worse than Kinemon honestly
Lololol fr
They'd complain how Monster Point didn't kill Chopper after talking about "even if i die, i'll protect my friends"
that one "pre-timeskip delusion" arc video really resonates with me
I think all of that actually happened back then in forums and shit but those people werent as loud or significant of the overall fanbase as the internet today
Back then
People still hated one piece for existing in the same realm as Naruto and bleach

It did yeah, all the criticism did exist weekly
“Will we ever be able to take a Zoro fight seriously again?”
People would be calling usopp and Zoro being hand cuffed together “stalling” too
It was funny to see the reaction to the Marine failures in Egghead when like, this was much worse
Much weaker crew against a buster call? And they did what?
Oh Arsal
We forgot the best criticism that would have come
“THAT was Rob lucci’s backstory??!”
Its legitimately a page 😭
Wg fraud allegations woulda been through the roof
Niggas say Kaido is bad
Bro it’s not even a page
It’s ONE panel lmaooo
And that VA takes up most of it 💀
Crocodiles backstory didnr come till Marineford 😭
Yeahh, its basically all just stated by him lmao
Enel’s backstory is “one day that nigga crashed out”
vibe villains
Modern OP fans would have dropped OP before they hit Water 7
But will also say preTS better
FRAUDA AT IT AGAIN | One Piece Chapter 428 Live Reaction
Quoting Mazel D. Manno🇿🇦🐉👒⚔ (@Mazel_Madness22)
︀
Boy I can only imagine how current OPtwt would react if this chapter dropped now😭😭😭
LMAO
“Listen I understand the subtext of Lucci being reduced to a tool so he has no in depth backstory but he doesn’t look at the camera and say that so it doesn’t count”
I have said it before, drop one modern fan into weekly East Blue and they'll legitimately drop that early
I need it explained to me
They’d treat Alabasta just like they treat Wano
They’d treat every big arc like that
I doubt they’d survive syrup village
ive always had the opinion that if OP were to release today exactly like it did 30 years it wouldnt have lasted 30 chapters
Id let Oda sleep with any of your wives and even I had a hard time with syrup
adventure series nowadays get fucked in WSJ
People couldn't even tolerate the pacing of the VP message in Egghead, imagine Syrup Village...
Nah it really wouldn’t have that’s why you don’t see series like OP now that’s asking for long term commitment
I know that’s not common for shonen period
the mickey mouse on the sunny flag
But OP really hit lightning in a bottles
gold
every new shonen today in WSJ either has a gimmick to carry it or is high octane action all the time
They know him so well
People reacting to LRLL now would be the best
Op only works now cause it’s already established
Niggas don’t fuck wit the hella long shit no more
That's why Oda had to switch his structure style instead of wanking around for whole chapters, now weekly chapters are packed and are always expected to be high notes/bangers otherwise they're judged
oda was lucky LRLL was like 300 chapters in because if it was near the start it would have gotten the can 
I do feel like Oda would probably pace it similar to how he paces them now if he did start it now, but it just wouldn't be One Piece like that
wdym kieran
LRLL is from post wano look at the animation
Honestly one of the best times to be an OP reader
Its hard to imagine East Blue with like, Elbaf pacing
True you right
Funny enough 5-year-OP would probably happen now vs 29 years ago
10 year AT BEST
You gotta realize he's juggling multiple plot threads as well in these arcs
Luffy's feet being stuck in the ground vs Arlong wouldve lasted 2 volumes
We have to gather allies to defeat Axe Hand Morgan!

A lot of people have short attention span
We recruited Koby, that 1 girl, maybe some random dad
did someone post the new pew tweet
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2042230555744321651
LEGO One Piece trailer?
do legos even float
Every fucker has ADD, if it doesn't have constant hype moments & aura they get distracted
that sunny would not float
i cannot imagine something that large and made of plastic to float very well
Price is gonna be insane
I got a short attention span
Loool my phone fr cooked my brain
SO TRUE
All of the Big 3 are long as hell series
Isn't it crazy that we have a lego minifigure of Dragon now.
Omg guys look! NO WAY! https://fixupx.com/pewpiece/status/2042230555744321651
like Kagurabacha is good and all but man
you can really feel it 
Its unfortunate but yeah, a bit of "I need to end the series before the series ends me" and a bit of "This is how modern stories are paced" have led Oda to believe that each chapter should be like, mega packed and fulfilling
picture book
I watch every vid on 2x speed now
I watch every TikTok on 2x speed
And instagram reel
me too
...
Ngl if people can bing watch long shows. Theres no difference with one piece
I listen to music and watch reels
Its over for you both
and i feel bad when i watch it at 1.25
I listen to music when studying
aluerax have you tried split screen reels and tiktok on auto scroll 2x
I can watch speaking based videos in 2x but anything else is wild
New gen moment
I do the lil picture mode and wtahc reels
I watch scary videos in regular speed
Thats so sad 😭
get an Amazon Firestick on your TV and download TikTok on it as well
Like for example, an interview can be 2x but if you're watching funny reels or something like that then you're just ruining it
holy consumerism I felt sick writing this
I listen to audio books at 3x speed
Wtf
That's horrible
hey dont judge
we will judge
I absolutely will judge
unholy attention span
Humanity is evolving, just backwards..
Judging so hard
I usually online shop & browse through yahoo japan or Mercari while a video is playing
was about to ban you
If I say how I watch shows

Yall finna judge me
like 2 seconds away
it can't be that bad
I can barely understand things at 2x imagine 3x
No one has an attention span anymore holy shit
I watch it in 4x
I should've said Samsung TV then
All movies I watch are at the max speed
Bro i'm high af all the time, even 1.25x is hard
okay I draw the line at movies and tv shows
Imagine trying to watch XQC at 2x speed 
what ⁉️
Sometimes I’ll do this and mute the reels so I can scroll whilst watching on my phone
we're talking about consumerism lmao
We listen and we don’t judge😆😆
nah bro
Chef don’t judge 😎
I'm judging hard unfortunately
I am worried.
hold up let me see how bad I can make something
I scroll to find long TikTok’s if I have to do something whilst watching TikTok…
Reminds me of that clip of that little kid using 3 devices at once
listen some people have substance addictions, I just have a cooked attention span, wheres my support group
There's people who watch shows on 2x too and hopefully you guys aren't on that level right...
@red lagoon dis you?
.
Like One Piece, on 2x, I know people who have done this
Good good
😭😭
I hate this gif because this kid isn't actually doing anything
he's not playing the game and not watching the tiktoks
just Clicking™
Throwback to ZFG watching anime on 6x because they got addicted to updating their anilist
My attention span is cooked I been known this
I saw someone casually mention that they just 2x-ed the parts of the show that they felt were boring and I think that explains a lot about the state of the fanbase
that's impossible
how
The furthest i go, is that i usually have somethign in the background while i'm grinding on a game
TikTok and reels and yt shorts fried my brain
Lmaooo, I remember her mentioning that 😭
@red lagoon is my final form if I don't lock in
if someone saw one pace, not one piece, in 1.5 or higher is beyond cooked
I mean if you are fast enough to read subtitles, that’s “enough” but at that point, you just aren’t enjoying the show
insert we don't watch our anime meme
I'm so glad i grew up playing MMOs, having to grind for hours for a single item at the end of it, really saved my attention span
Anilist statpadding can break brains
I mean I did some 5s skips during dressrosa and wano but come on
I think the worse is that a show with my friend twice and cause I was in TikTok the whole time I didn’t know the main characters name
The biggest issue I think is that people take a lot of other people’s opinions online for things they don’t fully understand and end up parroting or taking it as a fact
Like somehow there are people that think that Usopp rage baited Imu into leaving heaven and it’s this popular thing now
Should've just read tbh, the anime isn't worth it if you're skipping ahead because of its pacing
I watched some episodes in 1 minute each, back when I watched the anime
I think it’s crazy that I still managed to watch one piece twice without skipping anything
Idk why but the WWE Smackdown ring in that gif is killing me
Except filler
And no 2x speed
Man I love one piece
This is how the whole world believes Marineford is good and foxy/thriller bark is bad 😔
true but I wasn't a manga freak back then
They can't differentiate agenda with what actually happened, or... They're genuinely just cooked.
nowadays I just go to the manga always
Who has Shrek in gif form for Aluerax's ADD ass to watch rq 
Fair fair
Even tho I’m Gen Z. I’m still old school because I love watching everything, including filler. I yearn for more content
YOU WATCH FILLER?
Sorry
how many op movies did you watch saya
Its funny how this works, even the newest fans end up parroting the same takes. It makes me wonder if they're literally looking up opinions in order to make them their own lol
Did you watch the OVA that was a CGI mess
I think a lot of people end up thinking that the agenda which is out there and slanders posts are 100% accurate, which leads them to believe that's how it went down in the manga without actually having read it.
I actually still havent seen OP filler, I was just really anti-filler back when I watched it (because of Naruto)
Movies and Specials though, I did watch them all recently
Same
the people that sometimes can't realize is a joke is like no way 
I’m anti filler for when I dint know what filler was
Did you at least watch the G8 filler?
And watched it unwillingly
Nah
Nah not even G8
Like, some people say they've "read One Piece" when in reality they've just scrolled Instagram reels for 6 hours and think they know the story and context.
Oh.....
Naruto made me hate filler
It only takes so long before a meme because a fact in a fandoms mind
G8 better than some cannon arcs so that’s y’all’s loss
Cause I watched it all not knowing things was filler
Then when I learnt what it as a
I ain’t ever waste time on filler again
G8 was really fun to watch
I remember when gear 5 came out people kept parroting that Luffy’s body isn’t actually rubbery it’s only that way because he thought it was the rubber fruit. And they would not listen to reason OR the manga.
Naruto really did destroy filler for everyone huh
that's true though? isn't it
I mean, that’s what happens when the gorosei says the devil fruit is the power of imagination or whatever the quote was and then Luffy creates goggles in the next arc
you remember me a guy saying that luffy imagines himself as a rubber man and that he isn't rubber
Luffy is still rubber
I make a point of watching it every time i rewatch
Definitely lol, and its just how it just keeps on spreading because for some reason no one bothers thinking for themselves
The Gorosei say Nika had a rubbery body like a line after that
He was stretching before he even knew the fruit as gum gum fruit
It’s not
like obviously Shanks wasn't going to tell Luffy that his power is whatever he imagines but he did plant the thought of being a rubber man into Luffy's mind and he went with it ever since
So, is the resin fruit theories dead?
Nika just had a rubbery body
been dead for 4 years
Nika was a being made of rubber, thats all theres to it
No, I mean could there be a resin fruit out there.
this shocked me by the way i looked it up the other day and it's genuinely been 4 years
Maybe
oh well that could be
It would be hella funny if we get a resin fruit after all the theories on it.
the fantasy of Nika is just a reference to rubberhose animation basically, its not meant to be a separate power
Cant be worse than those that think the Gum Gum fruit still exists out there
Reminds me of the Pell thing
I'm so glad that people finally shut up about Loki having that fruit 
"Oda didn't actually kill him because um... 9/11!!"
😭
A more recent example of this that I saw was about Luffy v Zoro in Whiskey Peak. A Youtuber speculated that maybe the fight happened because an editor forced Oda to do so and somehow that convinced some people that it's some established fact lol
Hey, did you know that's why Luffy got his scar?
Still gets repeated to this day, I see it every single year without fail, its incredible
"Oda said a mugiwara will die"
source :
Zoro gave Luffy that scar 
This one's just plain stupidity because he mentioned that it'll happen in a year and then Merry died
To keep on mentioning this in 2026...
If a headcanon or speculation is said enough times it becomes a fact 
The entire falling downstairs is a euphemism for suicide thing is the funny one
I'm surprised to not have seen that many people call this an asspull
I don't respect speeding up your shows
even more so the way the fandom is now
Kinda just got overlooked I think
Its probably not good to watch TV while staring at another screen either. Personally I can't do it
People had a lot more bigger issues with Gear 5 so that’s probably why it went under the radar
It was called that a lot back then lol, but I think people settled down as some months passed
!bigtowel
There was a guy who'd literally return with alt accounts all named something something "Nika bad"
And one of his favorites was "Nika is an asspull"
its a good cope to give ppl to keep reading, what can ya say? ya OP barely kills ppl
G5 reveal was a great time, the debates over toon force was funny.. especially those denying it
I've used it
did anyone notice there's been an average of +300000 daily votes in the pop vote
But yeah, its just died down now, people love the reveal
Long gone are the days where you could laugh at people for saying luffy is a zoan because gear 4 is a transformation
Oda is a hack
Resin theory, fake Oden is real, that rock is actually Shanks...Onigashima debates were a different era
there should be mythical fruits that arent zoans
what would that even look like
what would be a mythical logia guys
Can't forget the greatest one of all, "THE RAID WILL FAIL"
Ice T
what's a mythical element
Wind Wind/Spirit Spirit fruit, model: Sylph
I have no clue
Mother flame
Rock but like a really cool rock I found. A mythical rock
well it could be something made up that doesnt exist, same with the mythical creatures for zoans
Element attached to a mythical zoan
Probsbly something like plasma
since it can't naturally form on earth
yeah that's what I'm thinking lmao a fake element
That boy Franky beat a prototype Yonko Commander eh?
But mythicals are usually named after something unique/named
WRANKYYY
Franky's tanked a train when he was just a dumb kid, he's really been out here doing the sh
True, my suggestion doesn't work lmao. The concept is a bit out there
there definitely have to be substances/elements that have a mythos attached to them
Notice how he has never lost a fight 
philosopher stone type stuff
Theres mythical beings that embody elements like Ifrit for example
Mythical logia model vibranium 🗣️‼️
I hope VP teaches Franky how to make his own vegacola
Zombie of one of the bottom rung members with different legs and no devil fruit anymore ***
oda wishes he came up with the concept of mythical logias
he would make katakuri one immediately
Lol nope
Mythical logia model kryptonium
how can you even be a mythical natural element

fantasy element
mithil or something idk tolkien only made fake metals
I guess by the element being a legend or something like that that people dreamed about so much that a fruit of that element came to existence
Anyways I don't think it will happen
I wonder if a Wapometal logia could exist
Probably not but from now on the strongest fruits will be only zoan so every paramecia and logia user sorry but you're cooked
Being sick sucks
nuhuh
Wapometal[3] is a special kind of alloy that was inadvertently invented by Wapol when he was turning garbage into toys during his cover story, manufactured via his Baku Baku no Mi powers. It was this metal that turned him from a homeless bum into a very wealthy CEO of a toy company.
What about the Plutonium–gallium alloy logia

I think they'll either be mythical beings that embody elements like Ifrit for Fire or they'll be made up fantasy shit like Adamantine
Can you call metals a logia lol
Oda called Wood a logia
Thats different tho than metals
metals are natural
mochi is also a paramecia fruit
Could darkness be considered a mythical logia perhaps?
Ik but i'm debating the people who say its logia
Metal is oftenly used as an element too, sometimes in place of "earth"
There's no such a thing as a substance dialled dark
ok so this one has a different explanation
that one is the same as light bro
!oda
without light there aint no darkness
Or as a branch off from earth
I think it uses the same principle an air logia would use,there's darkness in the world just as there's air in the world so it comes from that
Darkness is js the abcense of light
Just let logia stay logia it was already super OP pretimeskip
There is no such thing as a dark molecule
logia got replaced by mythical zoans
The closest thing you can say to that is dark matter
mythical zoan transcends all!!
I mean mythical zoans were a whole different league
oda foreshadowed dark particles
like other zoans are bums
y'all haven't heard of mythical paramecia yet
Thinking about it,shouldn't the kage kage no mi be a logia?
So you mean that mythical logia's are concepts that we are able to see but not feel?
he can't create shadows
he can only materialize them from people's
I want to be FILLED with more content 😋
I didn't understand this question 
same as soru soru no mi
Mmm I was thinking about it since shadows are almost like darkness so it would seem obvious for it to be a logia
If mythical logia's were a thing, would you consider air as a mythical logia?
I don't think so
air is a natural element
wdym
well y'know element as in water is an element
not periodic table
Mythical logia's would probsbly just be concepts that we are able to see and/or feel but are intangible.
gas gas fruit exists
Reminder Caesar neg diffed Katakuri & Oven
There's just a couple of them right?
Is this a gangster gastino upscale?
oda follows a more fantasy element selection
photons and electrons aren't elements they're particles for example
Mythical paramesia, periodic table
and soot is a byproduct
soot is natural
You become a table which is there periodically
But can you turn?
holy shit schrödinger would love this
imagine the awakening
So there is not demons core logia?

Do turns table?
Always
News logia?
Size changes depending on how big the scoop is
We start getting into philosophy
Man, I still feel a bit disappointed in Kilingham
I really thought he'd do something more.
I didn't think that Sanji would get the upperhand that fast.
Hopefully Imu frees him and Sommers.
Though I feel like Imu won't tolerate their incompetence.
I was thinking about holy knights rejoining the fight when I was making a bingo card
I decided against it though cause it feels like it waters down imu
I just realized I sent this message three days ago lmaoooo
I am 50/50 on if Imu would kill Sommers and Kilingham, sort of absorbing their covenant.
Almost like they did with Saturn.
You can use /copy any element

Depends really, I think the gorosei took the decisions and Imu has to deal with the aftermath.
I don't think that Imu was that involved other then "Conquer Elbaph."
"Any means necessary."
Like, I don't think that Imu is the one who recommends who goes were.
The other half of the HKs are either dead, straight up fodder, or doing a secret mission for shock value
They're probably in Marijoa with Shamrock.
Maybe Shamrock was sent back because they needed his command?
Maybe
Like, otherwise they'd be unorganized or something.
If it was a internal affair maybe
"Saint. Manmayer and Saint. Roswald are arguing... Shamrock, GO SOLVE IT!"
Like if the Cds themselves were causing havoc and shamrock being the captain of the hk can slay a cd if they act outta line
👀 a HK civil war would slightly be tuff
I imagine they would be complaining aswell
A civil war amongst Marines and World Government would be great.
I just want to see Sakazuki have enough.
I think he needs proof of imu
that’s why they were worried
His reaction to that would be priceless.
not only because of going down to the lower world
theres a good chance the HKs all get free'd, maybe even powered up
now there’s a chance people find out about imu
Knowing he has served the literal devil, for decades.
His unknown beef with dragon
His fight with kuzan
And now kizaru snapping at akainu. He needs to find that throne
He even got mad at the gorosei because they let doffy rock for a lil bit
Oda adding a supposed extra weakness with the metal hearts when they're already in such a sad state, makes me think this is more likely
imu when he realizes it's not just giants that are in the island as a news coo flies away with a camera strapped to its head
I don't think Imu care about hiding anymore.
To them the world has spelled it's doom already.
flood 2 will be the next story threat
Time for the reset
I still cant believe i'm ready a manga where they can defeat Satan by litrrally just throwing sea water at him lmfao
well I was muted smh
because of a bet, so thats why I responded 3 days later once it ended
Found another three skulls incident.
2 small skulls on the sides, 1 giant one in the middle.
The one piece is the story screenshot posted by Lili when Imu confessed to her
"look at this loser"
Eye cut off in this panel 
On imu’s pants its like 2 cracked skulls and 1 still intact
Yeah, that's interesting.
I don't know if they had horns, lol
She “disppeared”
I mean yea i just think the skulls mean the kills most likely
Mihawk maybe. Robin tho?
Yeah could be.
The flower fruit could be a byproduct of imu
What does that even mean
I think every fruit might be a product of imu
Like its probably a way weaker/different version or imu
Would explain the random ass demon transformation
Same.
The desperation to make Robin relevant
I would think probably what qbz said
???
Oda seems to have a habit of closing luffys left eye
But there is some nice thematics going on with Robin
Bro thinks a strawhat is irrelevant
Although i can only close my left eye individually lol
Immaculate air pollution today j see
It will all circle back to this, somehow.
That Every fruit is a product of imu
hes telling us hes the eyepatch pirate
Nah im talking about what penny said
Well, I don't see many people talking about how her size increased when she transformed into a demon...
Oh gotcha
The downer debbie herself
She did that before too
poor women named debbie
I just thinks it’s the fact she transformed into a demon and called the devil child yet she’s not a devil and being hunted by the real devil who is not being hunted
Oh that's true
There would be nothing literal here for me , all figurative and thematics and mirrors
Wait we have the new op?
Huuuh.
Nah it was a scene within the episode
Brooks song
Next episode probably
In the episode
Ah
Not opening
I haven't watched it
Idk man the thing about Nico is so strange. We know for sure who her mother was and that she is really into the world's history. Maybe a remnant of imu's race? I really want to see imu/Nico interactions to get more info
cant make this shit up 😭
If they are a remnant they’d be bastard children remnants , I do wonder about other members of the nerona line tho like what happened to them
This
Just gotta hold out one more week. You can do this buffy. You got it.
Or just... Always evil.
I am leaning to the side where Imu is a reincarnation of the devil from the first world etc.
With everything going on, almost forgot about this
I think nerona imu was a real legit person that ate like the first devil fruit or something
And it had all th powers you could think of within it
This was a long time ago.
Could very well be.
Prob gonna be relevant soon
Voat?
Ye but more fine tuned
Luffy not knowing he has high tier voat 🤝 Zoro not knowing he has high tier CoC
I didnt.
I want to see Imu comment on Chopper's fruit.
#tripleawakening
Unless you’re sanji or goatsopp you’re not learning haki on the fly fr so brook chopper and robin all gotta awaken

@ashen perch arsal chwan
i respect your ability to find obscure information almost as much as my own
do you remember Oda ever talking about how he came up with sanji and zoro by splitting a prototype character into two separate ones?
this is important, i have delusions to validate
you can't say that
they're tough on spoilers here
@nimble peak no other-series please
Ohhhhh
Sorry didn't even realise
arsal don't ignor me to do your job
no worries
what's wrong wtih u
I was doing my first job smh
can we ban this guy
I dont think that exists, there's his early concept for a manga called "Knight v Samurai''
which you can see as the beginnings of the Zoro/Sanji dynamic
but I dont think Oda commented on it, it was just presented by his editor
as they were
i need to prove ryuma is sanji's granddady
favorite wiki page that's jumping the gun?
tbf they would only have to make slight modifications later
The Akuma no Mi is a Devil Fruit that allows its user to transform into a devil
This is so bold lmao
its nice to have a mostly ready page for it, that might be their thought lol
They must get paid for making pages lmao
well yea, its gonna get a lot of visits, which is good for them
Idk it does not say devil fruit. It says ability: devil fruit. That's a huge difference
this mfer got a strengths and weaknesses section LMAO
yeah that's why i'm like uhhhh
we might wanna wait a bit before making an article
Shon💔💔
Is the weakness sunlight
Or the nika fruit
it should say the weakness is usopp
you know
Usopp might have one of the strongest powers in the verse
his lies keep coming true right
what if usopp is tapping into the same power that creates DFs
If imagination and belief is enough to cause DFs to spawn in
lemme chill
The one who will die in Elbaf as a true warrior? Just like hinted at the beginning of the show?
Ooops
i'd be truly shocked if usopp died in Elbaph tbh
By all indications though, the user should still be affected by the standard Devil Fruit weaknesses.


WHAT indications man
all of them
THE indications
too many to list
What if it's not even blood.
interesting how both powers are described the same way as “ black smoke “
oh yeah no imu didn't spit up blood
thats a mistranslation
that's gunk from hitting two blinkers
you know how it is, you gotta hit the vape before going to the store
imu needed his fix before leaving marijoa
the official has the giants specifically say that its not black smoke lol
lmao damn Imu
that boy was feening
that's why imu was coughing so much
nigga hit the dab rig before heading out, had to get his mind right before stepping on the court
imu: whew i'm high as fuck. this shire way up in the air too
yea the official says “ that ain’t just black smoke “ neither is Teach’s darkness .. i’m talking about how both are described as looking like black smoke and both going up in the sky the same way
Lilith and franky must make a penji
lololol
@unkempt tapir 1 more left
I am pretty sure Imu's black pillars are haki
lol this sentence cooked tf outta me
i think so too which makes it really interesting they can see it
the anime makes it seem like their bodies are made of that black stuff
I wonder
yeah I dont think anyone has seen black lightning before, which is very unusual
Please no.
lol what kind of liquid machine we talking about
People of the moon dreamed
like from terminator 2
like Terminator ?
the magnetic property they have is really interesting, I have been saying it for a while that the regen works very similar to logias
btw this is proof oda's gonna do time travel, he loves the terminator movies
terminator made bootstrap paradoxes mainstream in the 80s
maybe regeneration is basically just them... uh how do I explain it...
until it's too late
I guess them dispersing and then coming together like iron fillings? whatever you call them
Please let that mechanical heart be exclusive to Sommers.
omg
Oda's been showing us Kid's upgrade all this time
I'm kinda tired of robots.
Kid is gonna take control of one of their liquid machine bodies
use it for his own constructs
Doesnt help that we had egghead before this
whooooooo let's go baybee
Yeah....
Imu hates tech unless its infinite battery
NO.
remember when vegapunk talked about making the internet
jamesbei said wel you gon have a lot of dispshits adding to that
Just a coincidence nothing to think about
maybe foreshadowing that imu and the original 20 all have their minds in the one body
There's really just two options, one is that Oda got rid of Kid before he introduced these weirdly magentically fluid regen users
Or, Kid is the key to beating them

Could be both
Got rid of kid because only he can save us now
could you imagine if oda revealed Kid is actually dead
and that's why the world is bouta go to shit
"If Kid were still alive he could have just ripped all of their hearts out"
Yes
oh right, but I was thinking permanently so that he doesnt mess up their plans too easily
I regret bringing this discussion up.
lolol
Its a reason the big mom slayer went in the direction of elbaf
The land that hates big mom the most
HE LIVES
I'm going back to Pokemon Champions.
JIKA LIVESSSS
its probably not literally magnetic though lol, so I would hold the horses on that
Kid will play a role I am sure
The volcano?
Kidd did not go to a volcano but cook up
lmaooo
Ye but he also aimed his rail gun at elbaf
Perhaps
the way you phrased this killed me
Niggas wanna disagree so bad they say fuck reading
Shamrock coming back to Elbaf would provide a clean spot for Kid to fit into but...
I do understand why people see him just coming back as repetitive
lol nah penny is cool, i think they just didn't catch it
The red hair rumble
but fuck that, I dont mind
ay
Man do I have to start explicitly saying it when I'm making a joke
YO?
Voting time.
Plus kidd probably hates shamrock fr depending on what happened to him
a big idea since Shamrock's intro has been that Kid never actually had real beef with Shanks
Vivi pleaaase
penny tae pls don't fight 😢
he had beef with Shamrock


