also-manga

[muted crown]

LA Smoker is the only one I can’t stand so far personally.

[hot cairn]

the fact that Luffy fell in line with that and still did it out of his own volition should tell you everything about how Oda will handle it. Luffy will fulfill the prophecy because he wants to beat Imu’s ass.

[rich hornet]

Is like Imu said, these events are inevitable. Without having to be anything besides who he is, fate was bending towards Luffy existing and fulfilling this role

[lofty fern]

Why does anyone? Why does Luffy fight on even when he's bloody and busted? Because he has to. There is no one else to send. They just went over that. Also no one else can handle the enemy he faces.

[brittle basin]

There is something about the wigs in LA that they just haven't mastered yet. Though I love Vivi's hair coloring. Feels way better and more natural than Nojiko's fuck ass wig in S1.

[random crow]

This determinism is something that was glued to the story together with the lost century lore and I really don't like. Hope Luffy does what he want to do and frustrate what the world expect him to

[hot cairn]

the live action wigs are awful yes

[grand flower]

Nah, the bigger prophecy meaning bigger stakes means more dramatic tension by breaking this one

Luffy will usher in the Dawn but the process wont look like anything people expected

The conclusion will happen

Luffy will get there by his own steps

[rich hornet]

Try to think of it less like determinism and more like karma. Action and reaction. The result of the VC and the WG is that the world would naturally produce a Luffy

[grand flower]

Not what steps are outlined in the Harley

All that is to say

Anything prior to “the dawn will be brought in by Luffy” is subject to being subverted

Luffy very well could bring in the Dawn against Blackbeard instead of imu because nobody accounted for Blackbeard

[dark nymph]

I just want the whole thing to be subverted, i won't accept anything less

[random crow]

Still the villain says everything was bound to happen. I like that Luffy is always against his role as the sun god, or a hero at all. Hope this never changes and good and bad people arrive to a different conclusion than the one Roger wanted for

[grand flower]

I feel like dragon will end up being the force that rallied the world against Imu

It’s a natural trajectory for the Revos as a whole

[teal hill]

hey also manga hows it going

[glacial bear]

Me when the fajitas are sizzling

[grand flower]

Theyre the “Will of the people” according to the manga

[glacial bear]

I like how it’s purple

[runic dock]

But that’s my whole argument tho , gunko being possessed once here isn’t proof enough that imu can only do it to gorosei and gunko , if he has an ability centered around 13 specific pacts with the gorosei taking the more important positions in those pacts , why would the ability allow for an extra usage of gunko? Especially when we know gunko also had to be a god blade (apprentice basically) before moving up to Hk, and we also know that imu picked Saturn to possess over gunko in god valley , so just how special is she ? Maybe he just preferred to possess her in this moment for Elbaf , if he could possess her who used to be a god blade like any other , then he should be able to possess the others too

[glacial bear]

Miss All Sunday merchhhhh 🔥🔥🔥

[rich hornet]

I’m sure it will have its own twist.

But yeah, what Imu said goes with what I’m saying. There were so many ripples growing into waves that he was always going to be rolled by them. The whole world has a certain kind of flow and even Imu can’t push against it

[iron oriole]

Okay Bandai well done... you get my money

[latent hamlet]

And then doesnt fight

[hot cairn]

nah, we already have an example in story of luffy fulfilling a prophecy without going against his character. So this will be the same.

[hot cairn]

I dont think the mural is showing the 3rd world btw. Only the 1st and the 2nd

[grand flower]

That’s exactly why it happening with the Harley is a source of dramatic tension. The Wano prophecy going off without a hitch to lull us into a false sense of security for when it fails to happen with the Harley

[runic dock]

@lofty fern @leaden rivet my summary of my thoughts about that , couldn’t get it all out at once before cause I was at work

[grand flower]

That doesn’t much matter to me, I’m referring to the Harley text as a while

Whole*

[grand flower]

Yeah right

[graceful grove]

Yes exactly. This means Imu is forced to do this even against the advice of Gorosei so the chances are him spitting blood depicts a weakness with his body more than just a simple effect from transformation.

[dark nymph]

who will make Dragon showcase his power

[runic dock]

Either imu or bb , nobody else

[grand flower]

Dragon will drive Imu out of Elbaph by intervening right before his time limit goes off

[rich hornet]

Garling

[hot cairn]

I dont think so, that prophecy was a microcosm of the bigger prophecy and how it'll go down.

[dark nymph]

love the Imu option

[muted crown]

If we’re talking live action here, don’t you mean Missile Sunday?

[hot cairn]

ahh okok

[craggy vapor]

Somebody smarter than me needs to comment this

[grand flower]

that level of stakes is exactly why its worth more to violate that one. The consequences would be far more wide reaching

[misty pond]

I think we'll see someone show up to Elbaf and save them. I have no idea who though. This probably would be a great time to bring Dragon into the story.

[grand flower]

dragon ended egghead with reasons to come to Elbaph

[dark nymph]

uhhhh goda

[velvet oak]

im crine

[grand flower]

trust

[craggy vapor]

Does Robin have Imu’s eyes?

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/miu_wallp/status/2041852829464240622?s=20

Miury (@miu_wallp)

One piece

X · Apr 8, 2026, 12:17 PM

[graceful grove]

When is shirahoshi arriving at Elbaf to put out the fires

[misty pond]

All the media personalities are predicting that Elbaf tree gets split, which fits with the mythology. If Imu splits the tree, that would be pretty epic.

[velvet oak]

im crine

[iron oriole]

Mihawk also has a sword that looks similar in design to Imu's dagger & shotty

Robin also has a devil form that has horns & is red skinned

[blazing mantle]

Is this based on that one bleach art

[dark nymph]

when Oda wants to he gives lotsa ppl these eyes, wouldn't count her among ppl like Mihawk

[blazing mantle]

Why did Oda make a design as cool as Brook and then didn’t buff him

[blazing mantle]

The hawk and the robin

🧐

[spice python]

Imu is Daoist and Mihawk is Catholic

[iron oriole]

Brook doesn't need buffing, he already solo'd BM & shit

[misty pond]

brook can only be really buffed strongly with haki

[hot cairn]

I dont see anything in the story that seems to indicate this, that just sounds like your prediction

[blazing mantle]

Just wait for that haki buff

Or the cyborg thing

[hot cairn]

which is cool

[misty pond]

I'm hoping he unlocks it

[blazing mantle]

If franky wasn’t joking

[winged sable]

he might get one when they give his flashback with gunko

[blazing mantle]

In like 17~ chapters

[misty pond]

brook having really good armament haki makes sense

[blazing mantle]

Decades of combat experience

[formal wagon]

hope you feel better soon

[iron oriole]

Decades of just drifting too

[misty pond]

the thing is, brook's sword style is very precision based... whereas haki is more strength based... maybe he'll develop levels of both of them which causes him to have more precise attacks, I dunno

[blazing mantle]

That was only 5 of those decades chill

😴

[rose rune]

I misread that as ornament haki, and started thinking about buggy/usopp

[iron oriole]

Only 5

[blazing mantle]

Yeah only 5

[iron oriole]

Just a measly 50 years

[blazing mantle]

Fr

🥱

He kept his skills up too

[rich hornet]

Brook is like when you play a sequel and your character has been out of action so you start back at level 1

[blazing mantle]

See you get it

But brook isn’t really a noob

He knows what he’s doing

It’s not like he got weaker

[graceful grove]

Except for any form of haki

[blazing mantle]

Weren’t the zombies on thriller bark afraid of him

[lofty fern]

I don't know if anyone WILL ask him persay, it will just kind of happen. It will just fall into place

[misty pond]

I don't think Loki is going to join the crew. He just makes the other characters even more irrelevant.

[rich hornet]

Yeah he was a menace on TB

[blazing mantle]

Oda plot hole

😴

[iron oriole]

Well yeah he fucks them up

[grand flower]

it's luffy repeatedly throwing a wrench in anything he gets involved with

[stone terrace]

Loki is bound for greater things than being luffys subordinate

[latent hamlet]

U know
If we push Imu's immortal devil fruit users into sea

They wouldnt be dead but eternally drowning right?

[glacial bear]

Ooo

[grand flower]

there's always someone asking luffy to do something

sometimes he says yeah sometimes he says no

[latent hamlet]

"Have they been hurting my friend / my food"
"Well this country has been starving"
"Im in"

[grand flower]

that second line wouldn't work on luffy

[latent hamlet]

But the fooood

[dark nymph]

more like they fed me

[lofty fern]

Many people have the Imu eyes. It just means he's intense all the time

[grand flower]

if it's a country he already cares about

[misty pond]

I am kind of curious who will be the 11th for the SHs against blackbeard.

[grand flower]

"Imu is starving A country" would jsut get a "that guy sucks ass" outta luffy

[misty pond]

Koby i'm guessing

[latent hamlet]

yamato

[grand flower]

and a punch when imu is in front of him

[lofty fern]

Yes, but it will all work out. That's how life (and a story) works

[grand flower]

i did say that

[misty pond]

Kobv vs aokiji

[grand flower]

the end result of the dawn will ultimately come

[lofty fern]

I mean, he didn't say that to Wano?

[blazing mantle]

Yamato joins and kicks out Sanji from the monster trio

🤐

[latent hamlet]

Oh god wait
Luffy is gonna beat imu during night time

[grand flower]

it's somewhere before that luffy and teach will knock things off of the track

[latent hamlet]

And then the final punch happens

[rich hornet]

Actually very hyped for this

[latent hamlet]

And dawn breaks

[grand flower]

he was already going to fight kaido in spite of that

[blazing mantle]

The sun overcomes all darkness

[lofty fern]

So we are basically on the same page?

[grand flower]

Luffy doesn't fight Kaido because Kaido starved folk

[latent hamlet]

AND THEN BB SHOWS UP AND BLOTS OUT THE SKY

[blazing mantle]

His final attack will be called dawn breaker

[grand flower]

thats just an aspect of kaido that pisses luffy off

[hot cairn]

that doesnt mean the prophecy wont get fullfield, as we can see during Wano. Luffy said no to the alliance but that was because he wanted to hear Momo out. Again, the story shows us an example of how it can go down with the prophecy, you saying you think it'll go down differently it's just you prediction. Nothing wrong with that. It'll just be as simple as the WG standing in Luffy's way, as they are right now in this arc as a matter of fact.

[grand flower]

you can't keep circling back to wano without addressing my argument that it's played straight in wano to increase the dramatic tension of when it's broken with the harley

[misty pond]

I think Imu's life force is interconnected with the motherflame somehow and when he gets his hands on it he's going to become far more powerful than he is right now

[dark nymph]

bb showing up is always on the table

[latent hamlet]

BB gonna show up and be like
They call you the sun god eh straw hat? But let me tell you what I told Ace

The sun or the darkness! There can be only one winner!

[iron oriole]

A lot of times with prophecies, if the person knows about them & tries to do things to go against it etc it usually just speeds up the process

[velvet oak]

im crine

[latent hamlet]

[rich hornet]

Put it on your bingo card every year

[hot cairn]

because that's just a prediction that you have, that argument doesnt have any weight

[balmy field]

hi crine

[dark nymph]

son

[velvet oak]

im crine

[grand flower]

That argument has weight because Luffy throwing things off of the rails has precedence in the manga. Saying "But it happened in Wano" doesn't refute that argument because I'm saying those two details work in tandem with each other

[misty pond]

imagine everyone going crazy if blackbeard pirates saved the strawhat pirates

[grand flower]

It happening in Wano just means more dramatic tension when it doesn't happen with the harley

we can predict it won't happen with the harley because luffy has thrown things off the trails before

[misty pond]

won't happen but it'd be funny to see everyones reaction

[grand flower]

thats one of his most defining characteristics

the prophecy in wano going off lulls us into the security of "luffy will follow the prophecy again"

so when luffy does what luffy does once again, there is more conflict and dramatic tension for us

[rose rune]

Found this old kaleidoscope animation I made long ago

[dark nymph]

trippy

[grand flower]

Luffy following one prophecy and then breaking the one that we can afford to break even less is just dramatic tension

[iron oriole]

Nice try Imu, you wont brainwash me that easily

[misty pond]

lol i kind of want to avoid spoilers next week but I doubt I can

[hot cairn]

there hasnt been any sort of prophecy in the story before Wano, so no Luffy throwing things of the rails doesnt mean he wont beat the bad guy's ass in the end. I'm just using the only example we've had of a prophecy in the story.

[rose rune]

Darn

[hot cairn]

you saying that "we can predict this" is not a fact, it's just your prediction

[craggy vapor]

this might be a spoiler who will come out on top at the end of the series

[muted crown]

He was also prophesied to destroy FishMan Island

[hot cairn]

yeah, that hasnt happened yet

but it probably will be for a good reason

[muted crown]

Yeah. Could be fulfilled a number of ways

[rich hornet]

Interesting thing about Wano prophecy is that it wasn’t followed to a T. Momo held off on opening the borders

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/jun_worldcrew/status/2041850776667250772?s=20

JUN (@jun_worldcrew)

ヤマト⚡️

X · Apr 8, 2026, 12:08 PM

[fringe ice]

Who would've thought one day I'd be on that bum teach's side on anything

[hot cairn]

true

[iron oriole]

I wish we knew what Momo read in Odens journal

[rich hornet]

Same. It’s gonna be a huge reveal

[muted crown]

I’m still dying to see Robin’s time with the revolutionaries.

[iron oriole]

It's hard to think of what would be in there that could cause Momo to change his mind & not open the borders, well not hard... can think of one like a warning about the WG but like an important reason for Momo to defy his fathers wishes

[grand flower]

1a. First, this would just mean Imu isn't the bad guy you thought he was

1b. Actually, he can be. I forgot Wano set the precedence that there can be two antagonists on equal standing and one isn't beaten by Luffy

2. It doesn't have to just be a prophecy. Breaking plans like with Law, or dropping in to a conflict like Marineford where no one expected him to be, or going to Punk Hazard after Smoker correctly deduced he would choose Raijin Island. These are all examples of Luffy throwing things off the rails and betraying what's expected.

[muted crown]

I think that it doesn’t have to be anything in the memoirs. Momo wanting to build up the strength to defend Pluton makes sense enough to me.

[rich hornet]

Also the whole bit about him saying he absolutely has to live. What are they going to have him do, just the border or what

[lofty fern]

Yes, but it was spurred on by seeing the people starving because that's part of who Luffy is. He hates to see people he cares about going hungry.

[grand flower]

Duh

[brittle basin]

you have hypnotized me. what is thy desire master?

[grand flower]

He saw Kaido starving people and thought "This kaido sucks ass"

But he was already going to fight Kaido

If you told Luffy "hey theres this guy on this island starving people"

[rose rune]

Be happy buffy

[grand flower]

That's not gonna make Luffy go "okay let's sail over there and deal with him"

[lofty fern]

It looks like Imu's eyes as he's trying to hypnotise someone lol

[rose rune]

I just used the kaleidoscope effect on this old drawing

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/buffy-sarah-michelle-geller-smile-happy-blonde-gif-4950699

[hot cairn]

1. not really

2. It has to be a prophecy tho, that's what we're talking about.

[unkempt sable]

Yo

[grand flower]

It doesn't have to be a prophecy. It just has to be demonstrated that it's within Luffy's nature to betray other people's expectations of either him, or the conventions of the world

Luffy breaking INTO Impel Down is another example

[unkempt sable]

Who am I voting today

[lofty fern]

I'd agree, though fate will always throw something at him that makes him care

[rose rune]

Devon

[brittle basin]

[rich hornet]

Is there anyone besides Buggy

[iron oriole]

Tama

[rich hornet]

Sphinx Tama tho

[hot cairn]

it has to be a prophecy because that's what we're discussing.

like

that

[rose rune]

Actually, maybe I should start telling people to vote bogard

[hot cairn]

is the point of the convo

[grand flower]

It follows the same principle regardless of being a prophecy

[iron oriole]

Tama's not a sphinx smh

[grand flower]

A prophecy is just another version of "Luffy, this is what's expected"

[brittle basin]

Vote Terry Bogard!!!

[grand flower]

And Luffy has shown us that he regularly breaks what's expected

[hot cairn]

sharon I gotta go work, we can continue this later

[digital spear]

Beautiful art

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/_alaaa67/status/2041907104278311339?s=46

Alaa || (@_alaaa67)

#ONEPIECE ||

NERONA IMU 🎨..

X · Apr 8, 2026, 3:52 PM

[rose rune]

Actually never played those games

[royal orchid]

I had a whisper in my ear

[rose rune]

Thanks

[rich hornet]

The difference is a prophecy doesn’t need to be communicated to Luffy

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/andy-mai-mai-shiranui-bebe-kof-gif-16666125

[grand flower]

Neither was the expectations of Marineford

or Impel Down

Luffy still broke the expectations surrounding them

No one ever expected anyone to break into ID

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-sweat-heat-hot-wipe-sweat-gif-17716050

[grand flower]

No one ever expected Luffy to get involved with MF

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-shoe-bart-wolf-wolf-call-hubba-hubba-bart-simpson-gif-26890075

[lofty fern]

I think it also depends on "what's expected" perhaps even what Luffy has done is still expected? At least by fate.

[digital spear]

Somethings gonna be broken

[iron oriole]

Ace lowkey probably knew he'd try something, Garp probably did as well

[grand flower]

tbf they were both absolutely shocked to see luffy arrive

[lofty fern]

I think Garp totally expected it, or at least thought it could happen. Ace didn't want it but I bet wasn't surprised either

[shut escarp]

Luffy needs an incentive to go towards the holy land. Kidnap a crew member or have someone take his glyphs

[grand flower]

Neither did

Both were visibly shocked that Luffy came to Marineford

[iron oriole]

I kinda look at that as more shocked because "no way this fucking dumbass has actually come" not that they had no idea he'd try something

[lofty fern]

You can be shocked and still not surprised, especially because you know the person. It's a modified expected

[grand flower]

yall need to stop lmao

[iron oriole]

[lofty fern]

Like if you were to destroy your parents living room, they'd come in shocked, but they know you enough to not be super surprised

[iron oriole]

Yeah its like if my dogs were known to chew things up & i left them alone for hours & came home to shit chewed up

I'd be shocked at the mess but at the end of the day not surprised it happened

[grand flower]

Absolutely nothing about these reactions say "yeah just like i figured luffy might do"

[lofty fern]

Do or do not, Ace and Garp know Luffy?

[grand flower]

knock it off man

you're looking at panels of them being completely galled that luffy showed up

if they expected him to do so, their reactions wouldn't be this apalled

that aside, what a major straw man anyway

because regardless of garp and ace expected luffy to show up

my point is that the others wouldn't have

[rich hornet]

Have you considered the reactions are being played up for drama?

[grand flower]

nobody was expecting a rookie to pop into a war between an emperor and the navy with a rag tag group of escaped prisoners

[grand flower]

i get where you're coming but i be coming from somewhere completely different

their reactions clearly say

this was not something they were expecting

[lofty fern]

Sure, but what does that have to do with anything exactly? I feel like that's just part of how the story works

[grand flower]

My point is that Luffy regularly does things that completely shatter people's expectations

so when we have something like the harley prophecy, where a prophecy is just expectations with fancy dressing and the consequences are extremely far reaching

I suspect Luffy will probably end up shattering that as well as a source of dramatic tension/conflict

"The world is depending on this going off without a hitch" and then there's Luffy, who does nothing but throw hitches in every neat plan and road map you come up with

I feel like the writing is on the wall, pun intended

[rich hornet]

Ultimately I think you’re right. Things will happens bit differently than we expect. But I don’t think Luffy will try to shirk destiny on purpose or anything

[latent hamlet]

U know what would completely shatter expectations?

Luffy does exactly what he's fated to do. Word for word.

[grand flower]

I think he would tbh

[lofty fern]

Of course people are supposed to be shocked at what Luffy does and that he shatters expectations, but I think the idea of equating the expectations of a prophecy to the expectations of man isn't the same thing. Nothingh says that there has to be expectations to the prophecy. The prophecy is just what will be. It's a roadmap. It's not a person who is putting expectation on Luffy, it's just how things will play out.

[latent hamlet]

Tries so hard to avoid being joyboy nika he ends up being exactly what it is

[grand flower]

The fact that Luffy rejected Jamesbei's plan on the principle of him not wanting to be a hero

[pulsar path]

The way oda talks about writing Luffy

Is like

He does what he wants

[grand flower]

@pulsar path that's another reason I think so

[pulsar path]

And even if Oda has a plan he still does it idk how that is as a writer

[rose rune]

👍

[pulsar path]

Split personality?

[grand flower]

It's so engrained in his character, Oda chooses to talk about him like even he can't rein Luffy in

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-meet-your-destiny-master-oogway-kung-fu-panda-gif-26485579

[latent hamlet]

Essentially luffy's character is so hyper established that to break away from it would be so obvious that its clear oda wrote in bs

[grand flower]

@rich hornet to go back to what I was saying, I almost said Luffy doesn't necessarily have to shirk destiny specifically

It could be that Luffy just chooses not to do a particular thing and that causes a domino effect

[pulsar path]

Side note early Luffy is weird

[grand flower]

But thinking about it, Luffy would outright go "oh that's my destiny? fuck no then"

[pulsar path]

Like before alabastab

[iron oriole]

Defying destiny & prophecies is the fastest way to fulfill them

[grand flower]

Yeah the prophecy will end up fulfilled because the dawn will end up being brought in by Luffy regardless

[latent hamlet]

"I dont wanna be this joyhero!"
"He is the heroic joyboy!"

[grand flower]

What I think is gonna happen is Luffy is gonna make decisions that causes that outcome to happen, but disrupts the steps leading up to it completely

Luffy is gonna make it happen Luffy's way, not the way the Harley's predicted or outlined

[pulsar path]

Yeah that's it. Or does something that effects something else type stuff

[rich hornet]

Only the true lisan Al-gaib would be so modest

[grand flower]

The same way Luffy refused to be a hero for Jamesbei, and the way he refused to go on a "boring adventure" with Rayleigh telling him what the OP is

Luffy is definitely the type to be told he's destined to do something, and take that like

"You're telling me what to do"

I don't think Luffy would take too kindly to ideas of destiny because, I suspect he'd take that as pretty much

"It's being decided for me"

And Luffy is not cool with that kind of thing at all

[brittle basin]

did he hear Madam Sharley's prophecy?

[grand flower]

I think it's an important note that with all the talk of prophecy in Wano, they never actually share this information with Luffy

[grand flower]

nope

[brittle basin]

darn

[lofty fern]

I agree that if someone told Luffy, you must do this, this is your destiny than yes, he would go against it. But I doubt its going to be that blatent with it.
I think everyone around Luffy might get an idea and yet he won't

[grand flower]

I think this is gonna be the main difference between the Wano prophecy and the Harley prophecy

Luffy is taking on Nika's form

And he's surrounded by people who are zealots about Nika

Unlike Wano, they're more likely to actually push their expectations of Nika on Luffy and actually tell him about it

That's the mistake the samurai didn't make

It already started with Luffy telling Jarul "That Nika stuff has nothing to do with me"

So if/when giants start approaching Luffy as Nika, I don't think he's gonna be too keen on embracing it

[haughty saddle]

Shanks “I’m sorry I was born a celestial dragon” vs Luffy “Joyboy shmoyboy”

[grand flower]

Luffy was so adverse to Jamesbei's hero plan, he picked a fist fight over it

That's how much Luffy pushes back on that kind of thing, so imagine if they start going "hey luffy you're nika so you have to do this and that and that's all right"

[hot cairn]

this can still lead to Luffy vs Imu

[haughty saddle]

If it does become something that’s narratively tackled this arc, I can see there being parallels drawn even further between Luffy and Shanks. Especially if this arc ends with the expected reveal of Shanks/Shamrock carrying Joyboy’s bloodline.

[iron oriole]

tell Luffy all they want, it doesn't matter, one can't run from destiny

[grand flower]

Yeah but that's where everything with Luffy and Blackbeard sharing the same development method, while that's the case for Imu and Dragon, and the way Oda has defined the story, and the ending of Egghead and all that comes in

[iron oriole]

he can try to defy it with all his might

[grand flower]

My prediction of who's taking down Imu is based on an aggregate of many things in the story, Jesus

[rich hornet]

We see it this arc with Jarul recognizing Luffy as the sun god of prophecy. I’m sure other giants will pick up on it too

[vernal ravine]

i like how luffy gradually learns who nika is throughout the arcs, but without ever fully questioning it, maybe oda is cooking something

[grand flower]

It's no coincidence that Imu and Dragon are both developed by proxy of their organizations

While Luffy and Blackbeard are developed by their progress from rookies to Emperors

[brittle basin]

my prediction on who is taking down imu is based solely on one line from rocks

[hot cairn]

I agree with everything you’re saying about Luffy, I just disagree with thinking Luffy vs Imu is not happening

cause your points on Luffy’s character are correct

[haughty saddle]

I can see us getting to a place of Luffy admiring Joyboy/Nika without wanting to do things by a certain playbook.

[grand flower]

well we've talked before that he'll fight with Imu at some point

[haughty saddle]

Luffy is incredibly independent but also is not immune to insane hero worship

[grand flower]

It just won't be THE last fight for Imu

Imu is gonna go the way of Big Mom

"handle blackbeard, i got this. DRAGON CLAW WIND STRIKE!"

[iron oriole]

so you believe in Rocks vs Imu

[rich hornet]

This is a tangent, but was the implication last chap that the food was too frozen to eat so Luffy is stuck in prune mode?

[grand flower]

Rocks returns to fight Imu once last time as Fire Scar

[grand flower]

Yeah

[brittle basin]

I believe in BB assassinating Imu

[hot cairn]

Yes

[grand flower]

When Imu arrives, he's still an old man

[iron oriole]

too far Shuron smh

[grand flower]

Luffy unfortunately isn't fighting shape rn

which is really funny lol

[lofty fern]

It's actually interesting that you state that, but almost no one has talked about Luffy being Nika other than say Imu himself. They say he has a white form and that he looks like Nika, but no one has been worshipping him or demanding anything from him. If anything Bonney was more intense in that department. I don't see them pushing any expectations other than what they already expect of Luffy. Even Loki hasn't even acknowledged Luffy's look

[grand flower]

@hot cairn how do you feel about that

[haughty saddle]

And squirrel is the only guy who can unfreeze it. And squirrel is about to be majorly preoccupied with Loki fighting Imu.

[hot cairn]

we’ll see I guess, I still thinks everything points out to Luffy defeating Imu

[haughty saddle]

Franky, it’s up to you

[grand flower]

That's because they haven't seen it in action yet

[hot cairn]

about what?

[iron oriole]

Ragnir cant unfreeze the food

[grand flower]

Imu is here now but Luffy won't be fighting him

[iron oriole]

it was done by Lilliths beyblade things

[rich hornet]

I think the Luffy imu fight is happening, but we are in the familiar portion of the arc where Luffy can’t deal with the main threat due to some inconvenience

[haughty saddle]

He has temperature transfer powers, he could do it

[lofty fern]

I think it will be Luffy. Joyboy will ultimately be the bigger problem over Davy.

[haughty saddle]

That rat could do anything

[ionic palm]

can he shrink size

[lofty fern]

You think he'd just sit on the side?

[haughty saddle]

If the author writes him into that position yes lol

[grand flower]

what's his other option atm without food?

[cold steppe]

I think they're gonna get pummeled and vivi will arrive like shanks

[haughty saddle]

Luffy doesn’t have another option unless someone feeds him

[iron oriole]

time for emergency food to come into play

[rich hornet]

Chopper is always on the menu

[haughty saddle]

And Kizaru isn’t here for a quick meal delivery this arc

[warm sierra]

what was the whole newspaper thing for if Vivi just comes to elbaf now anyways

[hot cairn]

I don’t know how to feel about that, I’m waiting to see things play out tbh. But right now I see it as Oda’s way to delay the inevitable.

[frigid gulch]

Hakrl soon

[haughty saddle]

Weekly hype baby

[lofty fern]

I mean, food is right there though and we know how fast Luffy can eat

[iron oriole]

Lillith will just pull out the food-appear-inator next chapter

[warm sierra]

do what york couldnt

[hot cairn]

exactly @grand flower

[grand flower]

Imu may be on a time limit though

Something REAL funny can happen

[haughty saddle]

Jinbei carries in an air fryer

[brittle basin]

I was Imu vs the world until the Rocks flashback. Now I'm sticking with BB takes the throne even if for a moment.

[ionic palm]

its not like there's going to be a proper outcome anyway since Imu's likely on a severely short time limit and will be forced to withdraw when time's up.

[grand flower]

Yeah but Imu may not be here for long enough

[vernal ravine]

yeah i don't know if oda is gonna go far on that narrative and make luffy doubt about himsel, I just think he is going to make luffy do what he wants and that free will suddenly make the world dawn, but who knows for me there is an interesting freedom topic for luffy's character since the nika fruit reveal that i'd like oda to at least subtle gives us an answer, for example, i would love if joyboy wanted to do something in a way and luffy just ends doing what he wants but in the end the outcome is pretty similar, or something like that

[grand flower]

Yeah that's what I figure

There's a chance Imu could end up going back without going another round with Luffy

That would be really funny

to me

[rich hornet]

Yeah that would be funny

[hot cairn]

if you really think Imu is leaving without even seeing/facing Luffy you don’t know Oda

[haughty saddle]

Yeah it’s 100% gonna end up a case of Nika’s spirit or idea or whatever it is that drives Zoans is just liking Luffy a lot. Not Luffy being driven by Nika.

[runic dock]

I hope so too

[haughty saddle]

Luffy is Nika because Luffy is Luffy. Nika is just here for the ride.

[hot cairn]

that’s what Shuron wants for his agenda

[lofty fern]

I'd agree. I don't think it would take Luffy all that long to get from where he was to where he needs to be. I think Luffy will not be able to fight the way he wants to and that will cost him. Imu will leave, but he will leave his mark on the SHs and on Luffy

[iron oriole]

idt Imu is on a time limit tbh, i think that he's just mortal when down in the "lower world"

i think it would be a good way to balance the immortality surgery that majority of people think Imu had done, if you're only "immortal" within the area of which you had the surgery done, in this case Marijoa

[vernal ravine]

like i imagine joyboy saying you need pluton to destroy red line and luffy just end saying : " i'll do it myself "

[haughty saddle]

Room already has a radius built into it. That could be fire.

[tough igloo]

but with their age , if they were no longer immortal once they leave , shouldn’t his old ass just turn to dust and bones lol

[grand flower]

That’s exactly what’d make it shocking

[iron oriole]

and the damage that Imu seemingly took after tping & transforming is probably because they haven't left in so long & haven't done the transformation without the immortality surgery in effect for so long

[hot cairn]

btw, are you admitting that BM is not a main villain?

[grand flower]

I don’t do agenda reading, I enjoy whatever happens

I just be dialed in

[hot cairn]

@grand flower

[iron oriole]

perhaps the "immortality" is simply a pause effect

[grand flower]

lol what?

[runic dock]

I agree I think “time limit “ was just the first nerf people could think of , but it doesn’t seem that way from the outset , it really does seem like either it makes him mortal OR it’s literally part of a transformation sequence for aesthetic purposes

It would be funny if the latter

[hot cairn]

you said the other day that Imu isnt a main villain, but you’re comparing him to BM to say that someone else could defeat him. So BM is not a main villain?

[lofty fern]

The way that Imu saw Davy and Joyboy makes me think he will concentrating more so on one of the two. Not Dragon, perhaps the world, but it will be the world under the leadership of one of the other two

[rich hornet]

Yeah I can see this vision too. A preamble to the major Luffy Imu clash when both are at full strength

[ashen rose]

When does break week end?

[iron oriole]

just cough out blood for the aura

[hot cairn]

you do have an agenda tho, you don’t want Luffy and Imu to meet/face each other here

[vernal ravine]

do y'all think imu is powering up sommers and killingham to fight zoro and sanji, i think is pretty probably

[grand flower]

Idk about that, Imu was coughing and hurt as soon as he got there

[runic dock]

Double fake out: 1180
Sommers doesn’t have a steel heart weakness , he was faking it

Imu doesn’t have a surface world weakness , gorosei are just paranoid fucks

[grand flower]

Before he’s transforming, when he’s just standing there

[haughty saddle]

Domi reversi maybe?

[grand flower]

He’s already feelin ill effects

[grand flower]

I don’t have “wants” when it comes to OP

[runic dock]

I wonder if imu will continue coughing blood or it was just for the transformation

[grand flower]

Oda’s proven himself enough to me

I’m here for what eve he serves

I just be dialed in

[hot cairn]

read my other message

[runic dock]

I think he will magnetize them toward himself and recover them and send them back out

[hot cairn]

you clearly do tho

[glacial bear]

I have a theory about Saint Garling 🌙

Young God Valley Garling with his long hair down would look similar to Imu Nerona & King The Wildfire

But CURRENT Godhead Elder Saint Garling would look similar to Saint Marcus Mars with his long hair down

[vernal ravine]

with imu having the devil fruit i think he can make whatever excuse to power up them honestly

[iron oriole]

i do think the HKs will get a boost of sorts for being in such close proximity to Imu

[hot cairn]

that’s why you have predictions

and why you don’t want Imu and Luffy meeting here

[grand flower]

I said that under the context of “main villain = the one Luffy will beat in the end”

I’m willing to clarify now that Imu can be a main villain in the same way Big Mom was to Kaido, and will be another example of a main villain being beaten by not-Luffy.

[vernal ravine]

maybe, but i think that if this happens the arc is gonna be shorter than we'd imagine

[grand flower]

In this case, Imu would be the big bad for Dragon

[vernal ravine]

cause i don't see imu staying in elbaph for too long

[lofty fern]

I was thinking, if immortality is split between not being hurt vs not being able to age, I think the age thing might stick, but perhaps he won't be able to regen?

[grand flower]

I really don’t, I have predictions that I’m willing to be very assertive about cause I’m very good at analyzing story structure but that’s it

[runic dock]

How do you foresee it going if it’s short? Oda is always good at making it seem like something is about to end but then padding it for 20 chapters lol

[hot cairn]

[glacial bear]

Ngl I think Garling, Blackbeard Pirates, The Revs, Akainu, Koby, Luffy, & Cross Guild will all screw Imu Nerona over

[hot cairn]

one step closer

now you see Imu as a main villain, good

[weak wedge]

Ya

[vernal ravine]

with the pacing he is getting lately i don't think so, specially if its imu focused, if imu power ups the hk and there is more fights or he summon some creatures or something like that, maybe yes

[runic dock]

A main villain , glad you said A

[celest socket]

I think its increasingly likely imu is a fakeout or temporary main villain

[hot cairn]

would you not prefer that Luffy and Imu not meet/face each other here in Elbaph?

[iron oriole]

i've always thought that the Ope Ope is to stop aging/death via illness etc via its immortality surgery & then the contracts that HKs/Gorosei/likely Imu have is for mortal wounds etc

[lofty fern]

That's what I'm thinking. The blood is from right as he was in the process of teleporting and transforming

[grand flower]

I don’t have a preference honestly

I just think it’d be really funny if they didn’t

[hot cairn]

but yeah you’re good at analysing the story which is why it always shocks me that you think Luffy traveled back in time and that he’s Joyboy

[runic dock]

If imu is okay during the whole time he’s transformed then this would seem to be the case

Cause it would have been only for a moment

Not a constant thing to worry about

[lofty fern]

It's definitely two different aspects

[hot cairn]

yeah I’m 50/50 on who the final villain is. I’m happy either way, they’re both great and interesting characters

[vast violet]

Is blackbeard final villai

Villain?

[runic dock]

And they’re both related , often times other mangaka come toward pitfalls of one not being related to another option , or one not being properly setup for a long enough time, oda has no such problems

[hot cairn]

yeah you’d find it funny cause you’ll see it as more set up for your agenda

[glacial bear]

Yes

[runic dock]

I hope so , but whatever option we end up getting can’t possibly be bad

Oda covered his bases

[grand flower]

it'd be funny because i know imu fans would be galled

[vast violet]

I hope so to

[rich hornet]

It’s pretty guaranteed Blackbeard since Imu took the field first

[lofty fern]

I don't think that works as from the way Law spoke of it, the person basically sacrifices their life for your own. There would be no one left to maintain a room or a perimeter that you had to stay in.

[vast violet]

My prediction is bb gonna take imu poeer

Power*

[vernal ravine]

before all the davy clan revelation and the reveal of imu i was conviced that he had to be, right now i'm even more conviced

like i would be genuely surprised if he isn't

[runic dock]

I have similar thoughts but people would argue imu was set up the moment marines were introduced , but that point could be dissected even further

So idk , I just still prefer bb , there’s a lot more build towards him directly

[royal orchid]

bb foreshadowed imu

[runic dock]

Not indirectly

[runic dock]

Bb foreshadowed bb

[iron oriole]

awakening effects could stay in effect after death, we dont know entirely how it works & if we go off what Boa said, killing her wouldn't allow the next user to revert it, so i can see it working for the immortality surgery & its a very good nerf for it imo

[brittle basin]

maybe you can retroactively say imu was set up. but no one knew for like 1000 chapters

otherwise it wouldn't have been so big of a surprise

[runic dock]

Yeah

[glass plume]

https://x.com/SamuDL/status/2041918457952796980/photo/1

Samu_ ✨ (@SamuDL)

One Piece Elbaf Arc✨

#ONEPIECE

X · Apr 8, 2026, 4:37 PM

[rich hornet]

I more mean Imu involved himself in the action first so that will resolve first. Oda is holding BB back for later

[lofty fern]

I would think Law would know since this is his fruit's ultimate technique, and it is set that the person would lose their lives in doing it

[celest socket]

lmao that would be a hell of a theory

I feel like that's kindof a cool idea out of context but it doesn't really work with one piece's themes of inherited will

if luffy ends up being the one who created his original will in some ouroboros then its just weird

[lofty fern]

You can say BB's been involving himself in the actions since he was introduced. I don't see Imu and Luffy resolving anything here, personally

[hot cairn]

true

[iron oriole]

he doesn't exactly want people to know about it so idt he'd explain shit about it like that

[hot cairn]

right right…

[formal wagon]

i've been running a counter theory since shuron debuted this idea, that luffy is joyboy who was turned into a baby and sent into the future

[rich hornet]

That’s build up to me, and almost all of it is happening off to the side.
Imu probably isnt going to be fully dealt with here, but this is a fight inside of the main story. It’s significant.

It’s like Kaido flying down and whooping Luffy. Direct interaction is happening

[hot cairn]

isnt that the same thing?

[grand flower]

why does shandora have monkeys wearing straw hats engraved in their bell?

how did joy boy know to program his haki to affect the marines and elders

[hot cairn]

because Joyboy was wearing a strawhat perhaps?

[grand flower]

he sure is

[shut escarp]

The biggest winner in Marineford was Blackbeard. World Gov (Imu) couldn’t even feel good about killing Ace and Whitebeard because it led to the rise of Blackbeard. That should and will bite the world gov in the ass.

Luffy ultimate loser in Marineford vs Blackbeard ultimate winner in Marineford

[hot cairn]

he told emeth he could use it to protect someone

[formal wagon]

We know toki's powers cant go backwards in time, so this is consitent with that, and luffy wont experience the past

[hot cairn]

I see

[formal wagon]

avery debunked the idea but i keep forgetting how

[hot cairn]

haven’t seen avery in a while

[formal wagon]

it involves more

[grand flower]

he didn't, he said pull the knot and it'll protect him way way in the future

[brittle basin]

this artist got some funny stuff

[glass plume]

lol

[blazing depot]

Our favorite character

[formal wagon]

fl*p lim

and one piece odyssey

[blazing depot]

Erm what the duece

[formal wagon]

that game might have been responsible for me liking the series less

[iron oriole]

he wanted to protect Luffy

[blazing depot]

One Piece Odyssey killed his family

[grand flower]

I don't buy that Emet was able to influence Joy Boy's pre-programmed Haki

[hot cairn]

I do

[blazing depot]

Matt Owens going from LA One Piece to an IShowSpeed anime is something

[grand flower]

I don't see how it's possible

[hot cairn]

I can

[grand flower]

A robot influencing someone else's Haki after it's already been used doesn't make sense

[formal wagon]

made me realize i dont like the main cast that much, the idea of playing an rpg with just them made me stop playing so fast

[grand flower]

As Gaban and Rayleigh said, Haki is the power of intent and deliberate choice

[formal wagon]

😭 no way

[iron oriole]

Joyboy has set "rules" on the haki though, one of those being it has to be someone Emet wants to protect

[glacial bear]

Ishowspeed anime x One Piece anime collab when

[iron oriole]

Emet is deciding how its used & when

[glacial bear]

Ishowspeed will be included in the final saga

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-ishowspeed-wwe-la-knight-table-gif-10194245592214139451

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-fireworks-uhhh-boom-slimmy-gif-26143910

This was his peak

You can’t top this

[dense haven]

isn't speed reformed now

he seems to have come a long way from showing his dick on stream

[grave crypt]

Speed is now wrestling

Which pisses me off

Transfer his being into elbaf xo

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/mazel_madness22/status/2041872407980380585?s=46

Mazel D. Manno🇿🇦🐉👒⚔ (@Mazel_Madness22)

Boy I can only imagine how current OPtwt would react if this chapter dropped now😭😭😭

X · Apr 8, 2026, 1:34 PM

What is this Mickey Mouse shit

Oda has lost it

[glacial bear]

I saw speed in person at the royal rumble lol

He’s funny

[formal wagon]

we're getting another deus ex machina in elbaf

several actually

[glacial bear]

I liked him even more when he did his Latin America stream and loved Peru 🇵🇪

[grave crypt]

I dislike celebs in wrestling as a whole especially wrestlemania but that is offtopic

[formal wagon]

oda has eustass ready at any time for one

and wapol/ vivi

[grave crypt]

Eustass is so very not alive

[dense haven]

whats kid gonna do

[formal wagon]

why i oughtta

[celest socket]

Ennies lobby is good enough to get away with a sentimental plot resolution i feel

[grave crypt]

HEY IM NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT EITHER HE WAS MY FAVOURITE

[glacial bear]

Oh I completely understand. It takes away the focus & they’re not necessary. But in Speed’s case, it’s an exception cuz it’s actually entertaining. Unlike Pat McAfe

[celest socket]

Plus there was a little bit of justification for ships being alive before that

[cold steppe]

Even if he's alive, he'll just die again

[grave crypt]

Bro fuck pat mcafee although im 99% certain he isnt the actual person

[grave crypt]

Its like kenny and south park

Just dies every arc now

[woven heron]

https://giphy.com/gifs/no-diff-shanks-vs-kid-divine-departure-FqKyhg58wfXPqWVDLU

[glacial bear]

It’s been reported that TKO president Ari Emmanuel requested creative to involve him in the angle because of poor ticket sales for Wrestlemania

[grave crypt]

I was so confident it was kevin owens or the rock again

Im convicned KO is the one to screw cody to let randy get the punt

[dense haven]

yall like jonh cena?

[grave crypt]

How can you like someone you can't see

[woven heron]

https://giphy.com/gifs/undertaker-aj-styles-boneyard-match-kHxMpITyV49QAOBqY4

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wwe-coffin

[glacial bear]

I miss KO. Sucks that he’s out with a neck injury rn

[iron oriole]

Taker vs Mankind hell in a cell is still the best fight to ever happen in wrestling

[dense haven]

idk I prefer graggle vs glorp

[woven heron]

https://giphy.com/gifs/GoSmokeless-snoop-dog-solo-stove-blunt-marketing-AYTlA6aCT0jfspePYT

[formal wagon]

mankind?

[hot cairn]

he didn’t come to the DR…

everyone forget about us

[iron oriole]

aka Mick Foley

[glacial bear]

Baw gawd! As God as my witness, he’s gotta be broken in half!

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-mankind-hell-in-a-cell-fall-gif-14555677

[blazing depot]

Some things never change

[glacial bear]

Siempre te queiro mi hermano Dominicano! 🫂

[dense rapids]

Japanese fans think Luffy will be taken by Imu to be executed

[formal wagon]

sorry im doing a planet earth bit, i was gonna make another climate change joke but i couldnt get there fast enough

[iron oriole]

absolutely brutal, say what you will about it being a show etc & all fixed storylines... this fight was insane

[hot cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/hugs-big-hugs-gif-2881900892436096811

[formal wagon]

yay!!!!

[hot cairn]

oh

[formal wagon]

that means we go to vira to save that fraud

[glacial bear]

Mick Foley is called the Hardcore Legend for a reason 🔥 dude is tough as nails

[dense haven]

@pseudo gulch

[dense rapids]

Would be insane

Everyone comes together to save Luffy

[formal wagon]

and fails

[hot cairn]

wow, this feels like a tweet of today

[dense rapids]

The last time Japanese fans have been behind a theory was Shakky being the reason for GV

Imagine if they’re cooking again

[latent hamlet]

"Oh so when its kaido u took youe sweet time but when its imu you're all here"

[glacial bear]

That’d be a cool throwback. That way Imu can rectify the events of Roger’s execution by executing Joyboy’s possible successor instead!

I think that’s why Imu went down to Elbaph in person. Since he’s beaten Joyboy before, why not do it again?

[dense rapids]

Yea

[glacial bear]

Buggy takes off his red blanket & says “I’ve come…to end this war”

[dense rapids]

And he probably executed Joy Boy the same way in the void

They’re saying it’ll be like Loguetown

But instead of Buggy it’s Imu

[glacial bear]

Imagine that’s how Oda writes all of Luffy’s enemies and villains like Enel back into the story.

They stop Imu from killing Luffy because they’re jealous that THEY aren’t the ones to do it

Kuro of a thousand plans makes a comeback

That would help us finally get Helmeppo to arrest his dad Captain Axe Hand Morgan

Or ex-captain I should say

[leaden rivet]

I’m sure some Japanese fans do?

[dense rapids]

Garp and Luffy captured as Dragon begins his masterclass

[blazing depot]

Luffy being captured would be interesting

[glacial bear]

COOK!

[blazing depot]

It’d also be the perfect gateway for more straw hat development

[iron oriole]

idk i cant see Luffy being captured, as cool of a throwback it would be

[formal wagon]

japanese fans think usopp will fuse with a pop green

[dense rapids]

Instead of Dragon saving Luffy with just a lightning bolt

It’ll be the Revs, Grand Fleet, and Sword

[glacial bear]

Nah wait cook

Vivi, Morgan, & Wapol would learn of Luffy’s public execution

And that’s how Vivi finally comes into play

[glacial bear]

The return of Bartolomeo will be glorious

[hot helm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hello-812

[glacial bear]

If Luffy is kidnapped. It could give focus to other one piece characters in the meantime

[iron oriole]

would Imu announce the execution though

[formal wagon]

!embeds

damn

idk the commands

[glacial bear]

!pics

[tropic nova]

You are able to post pictures after you reach level 10. Check your level by typing ?rank in #bots.

[dense rapids]

The grand fleet will come together to save Luffy

[formal wagon]

its over for planet earth

[dense rapids]

Like the wb fleet came together to save Ace

[glacial bear]

Mhm

That’s when we see Shanks vs Shamrock perhaps

[formal wagon]

yall think ace and sabo would be friends if they ever met

[dense rapids]

The liberator will have to be the one to be liberated

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-end-of-the-world-waking-up-confused-gif-25861856

[glacial bear]

Omg IMAGINE AKAINU DOING THE SENGOKI THING or whatever. The whole public execution ceremony

[glacial bear]

Akainu since he’s fleet admiral most likely

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/oops-gif-25855259

[iron oriole]

i dont think Imu would announce it which would throw a spanner in the works, unless the SHs somehow get a message to Vivi & she makes Morgans print it but even then thats probably a big delay

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/oops-whoopsies-adam-de-vine-gif-7976025

[glacial bear]

Before Akainu executes Luffy. Mr 3 stops it

[dense rapids]

This is the world’s end

He announces the execution of nika as the world sinks

[iron oriole]

i feel like Imu would just want to execute Luffy without making a show of it unlike the Navy with Roger & Ace

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/buggy-one-piece-buggy-one-piece-clown-3d2y-gif-4466431721160122413

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-impel-down-mr-3-one-piece-luffy-one-piece-gif-17509573614401123126

Mr 3 is actually strong as hell

His wax is strong enough to block Magellan’s venom

[iron oriole]

like they're sick of Joyboy/Davy etc getting in the way even now 800 years on, why delay it

[rare ivy]

Loki is basically an ultimate version of the giga chad if you think about it

[ornate tartan]

keep dreamin bro😂 yall just want marineford again

if imu captures luffy he’s dying immediately

[dense rapids]

I mean we’re getting Marineford again?

The final war that will make Marineford look cute

[ornate tartan]

which is why that would never happen

[ornate tartan]

yea it’s gonna be much more grand and on a way bigger scale

[iron oriole]

this is what i'm saying, Imu wouldn't make a show of it like the Navy did with Roger & Ace

[dense rapids]

What’s more grander then the whole world coming together to free the mc

[ornate tartan]

all of the prophecies and things from the void century are lining up at the right time

imu wouldn’t take any chances

he came to elbaph for one reason

capturing him and making a show to the world means nothing to him

he actually would try to avoid that

these are people who are trying to erase the existence of Nika

[iron oriole]

it would be ironic though for the warrior of liberation to need to be liberated from the clasp of the devil but i cant see it happening

[ornate tartan]

why would they make a spectacle of his death

the WG isn’t the Navy

[blazing glen]

Watch Blackbeard take Luffy's fruit and he becomes Nika as the God of Destruction to kill Imu for good while Luffy takes control of the One Piece and becomes King of the Pirates.

[ornate tartan]

this isn’t a issue that imu felt could be dispatched to his underlings anymore

[dense rapids]

Imu holding Luffy’s execution as the flood arrives ushering in the dawn of a new era

[ornate tartan]

he personally went to handle them

[iron oriole]

exactly, they go through all this effort to hide Nika/Joyboy etc but then Imu captures Luffy & makes a show of it? "here world, this is Luffy, aka Nika, i'm gonna kill him now"

[fast pagoda]

I mean he's still a big pirate

[grand rain]

galdino is the goat

[fast pagoda]

But I agree

And luffy has definitely gone against the wg more than any other current yonko

[ornate tartan]

a pirate who’s going to be the pirate king

[hot helm]

not really

[grand rain]

https://tenor.com/view/be-quiet-mr-3-galdino-one-piece-silence-gif-6257790017894690862

[ornate tartan]

what sense would a rescue make

[dense rapids]

Bro doesn’t read the manga

Luffy declared war on the WG 900 chapters ago

[maiden smelt]

Wow oda is in this chat

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/sogeking-one-piece-op-gif-22103721

[grand rain]

God I miss sogeking

[iron oriole]

Luffy should have recruited Sogeking

[fast pagoda]

No other yonko has burned a wg flag, destroyed a major base, led a raid on impel down, has robin on their crew, has punched a world noble, fought cipher pol twice, has fought the five elders and admirals

[grand rain]

Hopefully sniper island is after elbaf

[hot helm]

declares war
destroys a building and frees a prisoner
runs
fights a couple vice admirals here and there
fights kizaru

thats pretty much it

[dense rapids]

Has fought Imu

[hot helm]

buggy has done more than that

[dense rapids]

Buggy is going against the marines

The WG’s army force

Luffy is going against the core of it

[grand rain]

Buggy also the goat

[hot helm]

nah

[blazing glen]

You tried really hard to make the achievements as bland as possible lmao

[dense rapids]

Wdym

[hot helm]

😭 i have to make it fit my narratie

[dense rapids]

Buggy has never crossed paths with the celestial dragons or their employees to go against them that’s been Luffy

Buggy has always gone against the marines

[iron oriole]

Buggy is saving his moment against the CDs for when he sits on the Empty Throne

[dense rapids]

^

[grand rain]

Buggy's number one rival is a celestial dragon

[hot helm]

anyone with black pfp is gay
-oda

[grand rain]

Shanks

[dense rapids]

What’s funny is

[grand rain]

In fact he's hit shanks at least once surely

[dense rapids]

Luffy and Buggy could end up captured together 😂

They’re both public enemy #1

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shaky-cam-found-footage-chopper-dr-chooper-gif-3249813292836039258

[hot helm]

1984 more like 2026

[dense rapids]

The CDs are focused on Luffy

The marines are focused on Buggy

[formal wagon]

planet earth endorses carrot

[craggy vapor]

No fucking way Oda invented 1567 characters in OP

[formal wagon]

some of them arent real, like denjiro

[dense rapids]

Mihawk, Crocodile, Cabaji, Mohji,Mr 3

Alvida is his Gunko

[iron oriole]

Actually missing Ragnir so 1568

[craggy vapor]

still, one thousand five hundred sixty seven is unreal

[craggy vapor]

excuse me, one thousand five hundred sixty eight is unreal

[muted crown]

But then, 1179 chapters and counting is pretty unreal too.

[iron oriole]

and he's not even done

[obtuse perch]

could be more, 10 MORE YEARS

10 MORE YEARS

[iron oriole]

gonna find the fountain of youth & give it to Oda so we can have OP forever

[vale heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/738580480437387264/1456732410850054264/IMG_7644.png?ex=69d75687&is=69d60507&hm=b66f0c8a1fa1ec3f47e9c073b0b60134556b75d92809c5a735d3a4d855f3070e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[craggy vapor]

i hope they caught all cheaters and bots

[jade rain]

Wait until void century to have even more

[obtuse perch]

we got whole routes in the grand line yet unexplored

[formal wagon]

like the robin route

wait nvm

[latent hamlet]

We havent even touched north south west blue lol

Some other author would have made us go there first

[formal wagon]

that author

[formal wagon]

sorry

[frigid gulch]

Planet mailbox

[fast pagoda]

I dont powerscale seriously

[wraith mantle]

Hi

[fast pagoda]

But do you think it would be crazy if I said Gunko is stronger than Saturn

[formal wagon]

on planet mailbox everyone votes carrot in the WT100 popularity poll

[frigid gulch]

Yes

[frigid gulch]

Sounds like a bad planet

[formal wagon]

on planet mailbox kiriko is not playable in overwatch

[fast pagoda]

Either way Gunko is more successful than Saturn

[formal wagon]

who else

junkrat is also not playable

[fast pagoda]

Woah

Kiriko is fine

[formal wagon]

doomfist is still a dps

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/explosion-space-1

[fast pagoda]

But junkrat...

[dense haven]

hating junkrat in 2026

especially after that stupid cat

[formal wagon]

i forgot about the cat

on planet mailbox the cat's maximum move speed is reduced by 15%

WAIT

on planet mailbox soujourn has a 80% overall dmg reduction

and there is no mercy dmg boost

[craggy vapor]

the background images of the fan voting site changes everytime you load the page

[formal wagon]

and on planet mailbox there are no cars

[runic dock]

I was about to say why is this guy talking about mailboxes then I realized it’s mailbox

[formal wagon]

yay i got another

[runic dock]

You certainly did

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-one-piece-anime-one-piece-loki-loki-one-piece-gif-13584204944776282472

[formal wagon]

holy peak

[restive lintel]

This is peakkkkk

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-luffy-fight-argument-taste-gif-20986130

And now.. Davy Jones and Joyboy

[pseudo gulch]

20 whole ass years ago

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/panicawa/status/2041534022665265518?s=20 wild

BroPa Industrial Complex (@panicawa)

Two decades of drawing Laffitte #OnePiece

X · Apr 7, 2026, 3:10 PM

[frigid gulch]

Kraken beard

[formal wagon]

now lets see 3 decades of drawing lafiette

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/rjupiter7/status/2041896790866210883

are we tired of winning???

RJupiter (@RJupiter7)

🚨 Justin Bieber wearing a Gear5 shirt with Hailey Bieber

The most popular Anime in the world

X · Apr 8, 2026, 3:11 PM

[dense haven]

im not sure if associating with bieber is a good thing

[pine ridge]

looks photoshopped ngl

[dense haven]

ur photoshoppe

[bleak cave]

So if shanks have IMUs immortality, so IMU can control him or not?

[glass plume]

Shanks doesn't have that.

[dense haven]

shanks is simply HIM

[pine ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/的9-gif-12565004940729182637

[upbeat yarrow]

i love this scene so much, if oda does the pun it's going to be peakest thing in the whole series

although i dont know if it works in japanese

[frigid gulch]

Which pun

[upbeat yarrow]

that joyboy became the first pirate not because he sailed the seas, but because he was rating pies

you know, pie-rating

[blazing glen]

No, that's why he let his arm get bitten off to get rid of the mark that lets Imu control him.

[pine ridge]

finally someone with good ideas

[frigid gulch]

I see

I would prefer if Shanks didn’t “let” it happen

[warm sierra]

it would not, the jp word for Pirate, Kaizoku has been used consistently throughout the series instead

[hot cairn]

this looks really fake

[still mason]

It's not, OP is over

[glass plume]

Kouki Uchiyama would be such a great voice actor for Imu

[muted crown]

Honestly, as someone who got the design of Gear 5 spoiled by a stray YouTube thumbnail like a week before I got to that point, after literally years of successfully avoiding nearly all spoilers, if I saw some MSN bullshit celebrity gossip photo of him wearing this shirt instead I’d have been so much more annoyed

OP is full of hilarious in-universe T-shirt designs that are way more fun than this too.

[cosmic hamlet]

@unkempt tapir Hello, whom should i vote?

[glass plume]

The voice they do for Meruem would be near perfect.

[unkempt tapir]

morgans

[cosmic hamlet]

I just need to vote morgans for rest of the left over votes?

[unkempt tapir]

yea

[gloomy tree]

isnt that til June or something?

[dapper tree]

Meek make the chapter yet?

[cosmic hamlet]

The site is not loading, i will vote after sometime

[gloomy tree]

i know it might shock you but we are on break

[unkempt tapir]

voting yeah

results r in august i believe

[unkempt tapir]

all good

[gloomy tree]

for OP day probably

[dapper tree]

I still blame meek

[runic dock]

Meek is the only reason I trust tcb

[dapper tree]

Insane

I would never trust tcb at all

[runic dock]

Bro put in overtime hours to keep their credibility alive

He deserves a raise

[formal wagon]

the alternative is trusting viz

or opscans

[gloomy tree]

[pine ridge]

there's a secret 4th option

!wokereader

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/527128641096908803/621744554995089436/Screenshot_20190912-183027.jpg?width=800&height=153

[pseudo gulch]

Hold on

Was this Moria upscale all along???

[stray prism]

rip moria

[pine ridge]

he got rid of the hat for the same reason

[glacial bear]

The owner of this server btw 💀

[grand rain]

I need the new chapter

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-wahh-wild-go-gif-13490041

[formal wagon]

yeah

-planet earth

[pseudo gulch]

No fucking way, THE planet Earth???

Big fan dude

[spice python]

Moria Kozuki the GOAT

[pseudo gulch]

Your bio is killing me mailbox

[formal wagon]

i hope the big fan cools me down
because of global warming

[formal wagon]

thank you

[pseudo gulch]

It's not looking good brev

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/earth-globe-explode-gif-14366757

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/case-oh-fat-explosion-explode-planets-gif-11996488617259315125

[stone terrace]

Goda introduced klaubatermann in skypiea

Now imagine if 20 chapters before that happened fucking kumadori started talking to chopper about ship spirits

[blazing depot]

The funniest thing in this fandom is no one knows what tension means

[stone terrace]

😭

[blazing depot]

Tension is when my head hurts really bad

[brittle basin]

Narrative Tension vs Tension Headache?

[blazing glen]

Guys, what if we're being really dumb and not realizing that the reason Imu is so upset about the middle initial D isn't because it represents Dawn, but because it represents the Devil he stole The Devil's Fruit from?

[prisma idol]

Tension Headache

[brittle basin]

The blue horse gives me a tension headache.

[blazing depot]

Switched to Yukiko I see…

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-persona-meme-persona-4-live-reaction-live-yukiko-reaction-gif-9256271896030906397

Embed fail

[brittle basin]

Chie is the better friend

idiot

IDIOT

[blazing glen]

Chie IS best girl, that's true.

[brittle basin]

@barren token post it

[dense haven]

morgana >>>>>>>>>>>>> teddie

[brittle basin]

NOPE

Spice has a cat bias

[dense haven]

teddie and chopper are competing neck to neck for the worst mascot ever

[brittle basin]

teddie is a chad with that kuma body

[cosmic hamlet]

@unkempt tapir

[glass plume]

I colored a new fan art of Imu lol, i think i'm obsessed.

I really need to learn shading myself though..

[rustic coral]

Guys, Galleila refers to the frozen giants on Punk Hazard???

[glass plume]

Probably.

[rustic coral]

What chapter were they

[torn stirrup]

560 something

*660

[lofty fern]

Gunko is best knight so far. Go Gunko

[torn stirrup]

damn it really is from Chapter 660

[glass plume]

They look so scary.

[lofty fern]

Imu will show Ragnir what real ice looks like

[glass plume]

True.

[blazing depot]

99% chance

[frigid gulch]

That’s them for sure

[lofty fern]

Because as much as people want to connect the dots, I don't see Ragnir being the one to freeze those giants

[glass plume]

If the current wielder of Ragnir was domi reversed, I could see it.

[lofty fern]

The thing is, Ragnir hasn't had a weilder for centuries

[glass plume]

Or.. If it's just a plan to keep them alive until Joyboy arrives.

[lofty fern]

It's been in a room guarding a fruit all day

[glass plume]

Maybe someone ordered Ragnir to do it, to make sure that they stay frozen and aren't dead?

Like, cryostasis or whatever it's called.

[lofty fern]

But we know it was the WG that captured them

They were alive and well prior to that

[glass plume]

Well fuck.

[lofty fern]

Jarul talks about the letter they sent home saying they had been captured

[glass plume]

Right, right..

I guess it cold've been the previous user of Kuzan's fruit then, given the World Government seemed to have access to it as Kuzan got it.

[lofty fern]

Possible, he's pretty young

[hot cairn]

I’m 99% sure it does

[lofty fern]

All the admirals are compared to the giants

[glass plume]

It could probably also have been Ethanbaron, he had freezing powers right?

[lofty fern]

Oh crap, totally forgot about him

Yeah, he totally could be the one

[ornate tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-dance-gif-2781536421969053210

[distant vine]

Would be me fr

[rustic coral]

Pudding gonna be the God Valley incident 2.0 just watch

[fossil nimbus]

So accurate

[ruby moat]

“That’s all the boat is getting this arc?

[rustic coral]

@ashen perch are you ready

[blazing depot]

They would have Oda killed during Thriller Bark

[brittle basin]

Hm, this was one of the most emotional moments in the series for me.

[lofty fern]

I don't think that many people are going to come for her....certainly not the whole world of men

[pseudo gulch]

ngl that's one of the biggest asspulls in the entire series

Arguably even the biggest one

[latent hamlet]

emotional can also be asspull

[pseudo gulch]

But it's Enies Lobby and I'm biased so it's a 10/10 anyway

[opal gull]

absolutely

[lofty fern]

I just need my PuddingxSanji and I will be set 😊

[brittle basin]

"Let's go back to the high seas of adventure" after Merry rescues them was a great tear jerker.

[latent hamlet]

instructions unclear
sanji saves every woman except pudding

pudding falls in love with him for being such a caring man about every woman

[lofty fern]

it was a bit, I remember reading it for the first time and being like....wha? I didn't even really understand what happened.

[lofty fern]

Pudding isn't the problem, it's Sanji realizing the great girl he's got here. It's going to take Nami knocking some sense into his head

[brittle basin]

the best one. gg. ez. i cried.

[rustic coral]

Is Kuma the GOAT?

[brittle basin]

Kuma is top tier after Egghead

[latent hamlet]

nami being like u gotta be with her, not me

[blazing glen]

I'm honestly more curious about who Brook was for him to seemingly have a connection to someone named Princess Shuri.

enough so to make her connection to Imu falter.

[pseudo gulch]

No he's a bear

[warm sierra]

Elbaf has too many threads to resolve, I dont get how people think its gonna end in total ruin bc of Imu

[opal gull]

so what kind of showing you think Imu has here?

Like the Gorosei?

[blazing glen]

Imu will turn Adam into a homie.

[warm sierra]

Loki and Luffy at the brink I guess of death and Imu runs out of time

[opal gull]

I think the SH will have to escape? But then I also dont think Elbaf will be destroyed. SO yeah I think Luffy and co will have to hide/run from Imu till he runs out of time or whatever

[iron oriole]

Time Limit Piece

[opal gull]

So they can still be in Elbaf but also get a taste of Imu's power

[iron oriole]

time limits aren't real, stop falling for it

[grand flower]

Idk man

[warm sierra]

gaban's comment, gunko situation, ancient lab, library, heaven realm, Im supposed we are just gonna leave all of this unresolved bc the SH need to flee from elbaf?

[grand flower]

Elbaph is shaped like a nuke going off

Since I saw that pointed out I haven’t been able to unsee it

[warm sierra]

its shaped like a tree?

[iron oriole]

definitely has the shape for a mushroom from a nuke

[warm sierra]

are you looking at trees in the wild and going wow this looks like an explosion?

[runic dock]

Lowk

This does look like one stage of an explosion of an atom bomb

[iron oriole]

tis similar

[runic dock]

And the ohara tree looked like a later stage , but still a nuke as well

[grand flower]

Thus kinda shape

[runic dock]

This is somewhat evocative of a smoldering explosion , maybe after the ballooning phase

[grand flower]

SpongeBob has so many of these

[warm sierra]

have you ever asked yourself why its called bikini bottom?

[brittle basin]

Awakened Buggy

[iron oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-meme-buggy-buggy-one-piece-fanart-gif-4829912216572062430

[grand flower]

Nah why

[warm sierra]

look up bikini atoll

[grand flower]

Okay

[brittle basin]

probably something NSFW i bet

sus

[grand flower]

Oh the SpongeBob nuclear theory

[iron oriole]

everyone in bikini bottom is nuclear mutated life

[runic dock]

Yes nuclear tests

SpongeBob is radioactive

That’s why he can talk

[grand flower]

https://youtu.be/NXx302zmWsU?si=Gnn4Ck5pwltTViQQ

[rustic coral]

Guys

thoughts on Hanafuda?

[blazing depot]

If they ever do a special or OVA based on the Ace novel, I would love extra scenes filling in his fight with Hanafuda

[grand flower]

The Kid Pirates killed him and that’s why Kaido made Apoo set Kid up

[rustic coral]

is that a theory

[runic dock]

It’s certainly not canon

So yes

[rustic coral]

not for long

[grand flower]

One of my mine

Kids ship was made out of a dinosaur specifically

[mighty shell]

not many

[distant vine]

I really wanted him to be the Burn Scar Man