also-manga

[final trench]

Plus he already solidified he’s at war with them at enies lobby

If he doesnt now, then after he discovers the one piece

[mortal yarrow]

I honestly think it’s really silly to even suggest that the evil figure at the top of the world with a GIANT STRAWHAT in their secret room won’t be a direct opponent of Luffy by the end of the story.

[brittle basin]

He might.

[glass plume]

https://x.com/jenan_arte/status/2041176603901022208/photo/1

jEnAn 🩸 (@jenan_arte)

Nerona Imu.

#ONEPIECE #onepiece1179

X · Apr 6, 2026, 3:30 PM

[grand flower]

Except Luffy was willing to take a detour in his adventure on pause to help Law fight Kaido. This is before Luffy knew that he needed to take Kaido down to become pirate king

With the government, Luffy doesnt have that proactive attitude at all. He’s content with dealing with the WG as they come despite knowing they stand in his way.

[final trench]

Or luffy gets the Op at the very end

[leaden rivet]

Perfect skin color

[graceful belfry]

In this sense, I do too. I’m not sure if Shuron is having multiple arguments or if they’re all centered on what we started talking about (Dragon being the one to take out Imu)

[hot cairn]

I’m not disagreeing with you on a final showdown about pirates.

BB final villain doesn’t negate Imu as a main villain. Who’s the enemy of the pirates?

[distant vine]

The moment we saw Rocks staredown Imu in Mariejois solidified it for me. Im all in on BB

[hot cairn]

yeah this is really all it takes

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-dragon-one-piece-one-piece-monkey-d-dragon-revolutionary-army-gif-27117369

#pending

[distant vine]

Unless Luffy defeats them both at the same time. Thats not impossible I guess lol

[grand flower]

And then story had her defeated by his allies because the story structure for Big Mom was reactive and the story structure for Kaido is proactive

[gloomy tree]

i know its boring but cant we agree that there are good arguments for both sides

[hot cairn]

this is not the topic of the conversation, Sharon believes Luffy won’t defeat Imu and that it’ll be Dragon

[grand flower]

The main villain is the final villain

[leaden rivet]

The argument is which argument is better so this doesn’t help

[fast pagoda]

Yeah because Luffy said he wanted to defeat all the emperors

[dense haven]

the moment we saw luffy turn into a god solidified this isn't a pirate manga anymore

[grand flower]

I think Dragon will be the one to hit Imu with the blow that renders Imu incapable of fighting further

[grand flower]

Read my second paragraph

[distant vine]

Oh yeah ik thats why I clarified. He's definetly wrong about that

[grand flower]

What you just said just illustrates the difference between pirates and government

Becausw they were pirates, Luffy was proactive about taking down the Emperors

With tje government, he’ll deal with them if they come

If they don’t come, then whatever

Even when Luffy stormed enies lobby, what did he do?

[mortal yarrow]

I think Dragon is lucky if he gets to fight alongside his son, but he probably gets taken out before he can finish off Imu alongside Luffy. Luffy absolutely deals the final blow.

[grand flower]

He got his nigga back and he was good

[graceful belfry]

Okay, I’ve already sort of agreed that this could happen and that the final, killing strike isn’t what matters to me as much as the majority of the battle and who the victory is individually assigned to, globally speaking (I think it should be Luffy)

[grand flower]

Luffy didnr give two fucks about the government once their immediate beef was settled

Luffy looks at pirates like, on principle, I gotta deal with you

[quiet ice]

This is how Arsal has been talking these past few days

https://x.com/Bashtop5/status/2040973931968909748

Bash🕷️ (@Bashtop5)

Interesting details I found:

Imu = Devil
Dracule means “son of the devil”
Robins epithet is “Devils Child”

All three are named after BIRDS

-Dracule MiHAWK = Hawk
-St Nerona IMU = Emu
-Nico ROBIN = Robin

Coincidence???

X · Apr 6, 2026, 2:04 AM

[final trench]

I can see this

Dragon and the revs help out luffy

[graceful belfry]

Lmao

[final trench]

I think he might show up on elbaf tbh

[graceful belfry]

Mihawk and Imu theories are valid tho

[final trench]

This aint too crazy

[trim lily]

imu is an emu

[dense haven]

imu is aussies biggest enemy

[grand flower]

Oh well I’ll say it like this then. I think imu is gonna get jumped, and dragon is gonna finish him off the way Luffy finished off Kaido, Enel and Dofy

[final trench]

Mihawk has imu’s blood

Robin has a subset of imu’s fruit

[trim lily]

does that translate into japanese at all or is it us applying english relations to a translation

[final trench]

0-2

[graceful belfry]

Word. I got no issues with that

[grand flower]

Imu vs Dragon will be THE Imu and THE dragon final war fight

[hot cairn]

that was absolutely not a detour. Luffy was calling every single island that they went through during that period and “adventure” every single start of an arc had the title of “adventure in the land of toys” “adventure in the land of samurai” etc. You can’t ignora that.

Luffy isnt just content with the WG. He dealt with the government when push came to shove. Again, it’s easy to have Luffy go against them. We’ve literally have 2 arcs full of that and now he’s about to confront Imu himself.

Even if you believe that Luffy doesn’t care about the WG. You can’t deny that Oda continues to push him against them.

[fast pagoda]

What Imu does on Elbaph and capturing Vivi could easily provide perfect motivation for Luffy to go after them

[hot cairn]

Nu uh. Kaido was a main villain and he is not the final villain

[fast pagoda]

Luffy wanted to go to Mary Geoise when he read about Cobra in the news

[distant vine]

Now would be a good time for Robin to use her full power huh

[rose rune]

not an emu...but

https://tenor.com/view/cassowary-kick-attack-gif-27328569

[trim lily]

is that a cassowary

[fast pagoda]

Yea

[trim lily]

horrific creatures

[fast pagoda]

Scary birds

[grand flower]

It’s a detour in the sense that Luffy was fully willing to take on that objective at the drop of a hat because he feels proactive about taking on other pirates

Kaido didn’t do anything to Luffy except be a top dawg pirate, and that was enough for Luffy to be committed to “oh yeah I HAVE to get to knocking his ass outta here anyway, so I’ll do it with you law”

Luffys had no such attitude about the government

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/cassowary-bird-calling-angry-grunting-gif-27656952

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/get-out-get-lost-5

did we ever get a cassoray vs kangaroo on video

I wonder who wins

[grand flower]

I think it’s what the structure of the story has been setting up all this time

People will go “luffy beat the bad guy for the hero with the personal grudge”

But that has already been subverted

[tulip turtle]

Is break week over

[grand flower]

Hell it was subverted when Zoro beat Morgan

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-sad-emotional-tears-crying-gif-16101018

[final trench]

Yup

Triple awakening

[pulsar path]

I would be cool with that but just from the since I get sword plus the others seem to have other plans the way koby was talking ? I wonder if Dragon will step in, knowing they are on talking terms I always forget this but idk exactly how he feels about Garp cureently but tbh I actually think Luffy might 🤔 idk the anime got me thinking I hate toei can do that to me

[grand flower]

I still have dragon pegged for Elbaph tbh

I think the war on pirate island will be sword and the navy

[final trench]

Imma say cassowary high diff

Them niggas bulletproof

[fast pagoda]

Either way I think the final villain will neither be Imu or Blackbeard lol

[final trench]

Ight bro

[trim lily]

evil secret third option

[hot cairn]

and what happens when that same objective happens but with the WG in the way?

[tranquil oracle]

what are you smoking mf

[distant vine]

We can do Doflamingo Round 2 if you want sure

[final trench]

Lemme guess its buggy aint it

[grand flower]

Luffy deals with them and once the conflict is over, he leaves em be

[fast pagoda]

Yes this

[grand flower]

Look at Lucci and Kaku

[pulsar path]

Honestly Im with you tbh him or shanks showing up just seems likely. I say shanks only because I think he would sense Imu 🤔 but tbh I would be more hype for dragon 🤣 I said this before but I just reread his intro and I was like wtf man time to show up! Og dragon design is something else!

[rich hornet]

It really all comes back to Skypiea. I’m ready for our lord and savior Enel

[pulsar path]

I wonder what people though of dragon than

[hot cairn]

also @grand flower don’t you see how opposite is to think that Luffy traveled back in time and he is Joyboy and Dragon will defeat Imu?

[distant vine]

Nobody's coming to Elbaph

[grand flower]

They were beaten by the SHs and just kept on thriving in the government later on

[pulsar path]

That's like around when I dropped shounen jump

[hot cairn]

okay then Luffy can deal with the WG

[fast pagoda]

The final villain is this guy

[grand flower]

Nope, I don’t think Luffy was in his right mind then

[tranquil oracle]

i beg there is zero time travel aspect

[final trench]

Buddy

Thats imu

[hot cairn]

huh?

[grand flower]

I’m surprised this is the first time any of you have raised that counterpoint

[hot cairn]

wdym

[graceful belfry]

Sure. My only stipulations are:

• Luffy has to be directly involved in the fight

• And it has to be framed as a war and fight that couldn’t be won without Luffy, making him the most, or second most, vital asset to Imu’s overall defeat

[fast pagoda]

Its the fusion of Imu and Teach

[grand flower]

I think Luffy will be on green fairy for almost the entire time

[rich hornet]

Based

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-gif-23663947

Mods take him to the Dominican republic

[grand flower]

That’s fine, that’s how it is with luffys wins over Dofy and Kaido

[hot cairn]

I am in the Dominican Republic…

[grand flower]

I guess Enel too

[final trench]

Alright so ill leave it in your hands now

You know what to do

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-tung-sahur-brainrot-baseball-gif-13999381090646842001

[hot cairn]

in this hypothetical , it’s still Luffy tho

[dense haven]

they added him to fortnie

[fast pagoda]

Luffy's only goal in the final saga is to the find the One Piece and then accomplish his dream

The final villain will be whoever is the last to oppose that

[rose rune]

is that why they fired a lot of people?

[final trench]

They added skibidi toliet aswell so its not too surprising

[fast pagoda]

And I think both Imu and Blackbeard are very likely to do that, Imu cares more about stopping Joyboy than maintaining the government

Which is why I think a fusion of the two is most likely. A being composed of malice, hatred and trauma against the whole world

[mortal yarrow]

That’s absurd, because that implies that the story would end when we find the One Piece, but we know that the dark history of the world is lying on Laughtale. Learning that history after all the conflict is over or as that conflict is already being resolved elsewhere is absurd. Luffy and co will learn that history, then after some provocation, they will certainly turn their attention to take down the WG alongside their allies.

[fast pagoda]

That is possible, but Oda also said the story would end with finding the One Piece. The true history of the world contains more than just that, it's not just a great motivator, we really dont know the full context of the story

Robin wants to read it and preserve it so future generations know it

[mortal yarrow]

I don’t need to know the full context of the story to know how abysmal it would be if Luffy and friends learned that dark history, then just laughed about it before the end card with no resolution afterwards, even or ESPECIALLY if the resolution doesn’t come afterwards because it’s already happened.

[fast pagoda]

And the story of the void century isnt even complete yet

[fast pagoda]

So why did Roger laugh when he was at Laugh Tale

He didnt seem very sad after Laugh Tale actually

[grand flower]

What?

[mortal yarrow]

We don’t know. Roger and Luffy tend to laugh at some crazy things if there’s even an ounce of humor to it though, but we do know that Roger regretted being too soon to act on what he learned.

[graceful belfry]

I don’t think that the very last obstacle necessarily always has to be the main one. Story progression varies. Imu could be considered the main villain, with Blackbeard being the final one. Or vice versa. Again, I don’t believe the order in which they’re taken out matters significantly. Most of the debate is driven by people who want to claim their favorite between the two as “the last villain standing.”

Obviously there’s arguments to be made about how the story differs depending on the order of events, but regardless I don’t think either Imu or Blackbeard are any less the main antagonists of the entire manga. Broadly, it’s Imu. But individually and personal to Luffy, it’s Blackbeard.

[mortal yarrow]

If Luffy’s too late to act on it in turn, I would groan. That would stink hard.

[fast pagoda]

Using your "reactive/proactive" story theory, plenty of main villains like Arlong and Enel were reactive

[glacial bear]

YESSIRR!!! Teach is special after all

[regal kite]

Nah.

[fast pagoda]

Luffy defeats plenty of "reactive" villains, and he still wanted to beat Big Mom even if he didnt set out after her at first

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-catarina-devon-devon-devon-one-piece-van-augur-gif-4898981720973991716

[hot cairn]

it’s still Luffy, so why cant Joyboy himself defeat Imu?

[regal kite]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-watching-eating-popcorn-drama-gif-12252109670276761360

[thick mango]

i dont think luffy cares about the dark history of the world at all. If how the elders treated bonney isnt enough for him to go to war, hearing some old bad stories on laugh tale isnt gonna be enough either.

[regal kite]

joyboy was getting jumped, imu charging in on his own because usopp pressed hum

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/feeeeedmore-fedmemore-gif-18884946

[fast pagoda]

The history of the void century is Robin's arc and she has her friends to stop the WG for her and protect her

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/ryback-thumbs-up-gif-24291861

[mortal yarrow]

I think it’s easy to conclude that both villains are the final villains to their respective halves of the story. Blackbeard is the final antagonist in the journey to be king of the pirates, while Imu is the final villain in the broader war against the World Government. It REALLY comes down to personal opinion whether one comes before the other.

[fast pagoda]

She doesnt want the history to have motivation to go after the WG, she already hates their guts. She just wants the world to know the full story

[regal kite]

roger is laughing because he ate one of the test S.M.I.L.E that gave him no powers

[thick mango]

i dont think thats it either, its not gonna be luffy can you please defeat the wg for me i just read about some historical injustices.

[fast pagoda]

This is why I think the final boss is a fusion

[thick mango]

Its gonna be personal, some friend is gonna be kidnapped or threatened

thats the only thing that moves luffy

[glacial bear]

Sakazuki Akainu, Marshall D. Teach, & Imu Nerona

[dense haven]

is vivi not enough

[glacial bear]

They do a final villain dock

[thick mango]

vivi is perfectly enough i think shes in danger

[fast pagoda]

I'm fine with Teach being the final villain after Imu btw, I just think Dragon killing him is ridiculous

[mortal yarrow]

Like, I think it makes sense for Blackbeard to go down first, because Luffy becoming king of the pirates would give him the fame and influence needed to arouse the alliance needed to take down the WG, but anyone may disagree, including Oda.

[glacial bear]

it’s been foreshadowed since thriller bark

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-franky-franky-one-piece-gif-24670992

[regal kite]

its gonna be teach, whitebeard and imu

[thick mango]

luckily vivi is currently under protection of one of the most powerful characters in one piece but who knows what might change

[regal kite]

idk how blackbeard is getting to imu but it has to happen

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/whitebeard-marineford-goat-gif-21001348

[hot cairn]

agreed, 100%

[opal gull]

Maybe Luffy beats BB then gets the OP and then goes to Mariejois to fight Imu and the WG?

cause I think Imu cant leave Mariejois without having some sort of Handicap or Time Limit

[hot cairn]

woah Abdoo

[cosmic hamlet]

Disagree 5%

[hot cairn]

been a while

[opal gull]

so i guess for now SH and co just have to survive

[opal gull]

hello

yah lol

has been some time

[pulsar path]

Tbh tho I think it might just be being closer to the ocean

[glacial bear]

Honestly I think it’s the opposite

[opal gull]

I just lost interest suddenly, just read 13 chaps last night

[pulsar path]

But also counter point why would they call some shit the deepsea cov

[glacial bear]

One Piece is the main focus & the final goal

[glass plume]

https://x.com/oval_1ce/status/2041173080874373440/photo/1

awfull eyes | COMMS OPEN (@oval_1ce)

ST. IMU #ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 6, 2026, 3:16 PM

[opal gull]

I think Luffy finds something at at Laughtale that can help beat Imu?

[fast pagoda]

Luffy has beaten villains he didn't really care to fight at first because they went after him, he's also not beaten villains he did want to fight

[regal kite]

the reason it doesnt matter is becsuse neither of them are inherently painted as a villain. antagonists? yes. but imu is just the government, blackbeard is just greedy.

[glacial bear]

The key to helping complete Imu’s world may very well be the One Piece too

[chilly dew]

🥲

[mortal yarrow]

???

[regal kite]

oda said no one is inherently good or bad in this story

[glacial bear]

Everyone wants the One Piece. Including Imu Nerona. Joyboy hid it for a reason

[regal kite]

villain means evil

[mortal yarrow]

The evil demon king of the world, leader of the government that is the source of practically every miserable thing in the verse is NOT inherently painted as a villain?

[fast pagoda]

Saint Charloss once said "end slavery"

[regal kite]

His personality and reasons for doing so isnt inherently evil though, those are just the abilities he has

[mortal yarrow]

Redeemable King of Moral Grayness, Nerona Imu

[dense haven]

yall aint ready for the imu redemption arc

[fast pagoda]

I'm ngl the Imu reveal made me a lot more confident in my theorycrafting and argument skills

I was right abt a lot of things I think

[mortal yarrow]

We have no reason to believe that, and I think anyone who claims Imu will be some tragic hero are deluded and mentally deficient.

[regal kite]

I never claimed that, not sure why it was added. I just said he isnt inherently evil. What has imu done so far that wasnt just to maintain control??

[fast pagoda]

I dont think Imu was a tragic hero but I dont think he was born evil at all

I think hes suffered

[regal kite]

most of the evil shit is fostered by his underlings and he allows that shit

[fast pagoda]

He might see his actions as divine retribution

[regal kite]

that too

[fast pagoda]

But we cant say anything for certain

[regal kite]

he could be like enel, just super conceited. But i cant imagine him being like

“I do bad just to do bad because im evil”

[mortal yarrow]

As if maintaining control can't be an evil goal? World domination is possibly one of the most common motivations for villains.

[fast pagoda]

Im pretty confident in believing the ancient kingdom was not sunshine and rainbows

[regal kite]

But whats imu’s reasoning

What is he hiding

[mortal yarrow]

I don't think you have to be pure evil to be a villain.

[regal kite]

true

[mortal yarrow]

I don't think it matters what Imu's reasoning may be. Even if he claims and genuinely believes that what he's doing is good in the end, that doesn't make him any less of a villain.

[fast pagoda]

Yeah I agree

[mortal yarrow]

He's still the shadow leader of a government that oppresses kingdoms, slaughters dissenters, and enslaves anything that breathes.

[celest mauve]

remember when the wiki made two pages for imu and nerona imu

[graceful belfry]

I doubt Oda will take the “evil for the sake of evil” route with Imu, so I think there’ll be some circumstances established that has readers debating whether or not “Imu did anything wrong” or if “we can understand why Imu does what he does”

[opal gull]

The 20 ruling families have an Imu each of their own

Nerona Imu is just one of the 20 Imus

[royal orchid]

life or death for one piece.fandom.com

☠️ Life!
🌎 Death!

[celest mauve]

I really do wonder what the other 19 were like, if they were also top-tiers and whatever else

[pulsar timber]

They were bums

[opal gull]

yeah

they were bums

[pulsar timber]

Imu is justified because he’s cool

[graceful belfry]

No way you actually think this

[royal orchid]

13 of them were main actors

stay with me now

[pulsar timber]

I do somewhat. I do not think all 20 were some super powerful capable combatwnt

[celest mauve]

they were bums and that's how imu eradicated them to take sole control of the WG?

[pulsar path]

Wow Lego land ends in three episodes

It's crazy we going to half way through the season when luffys talking to Loki in the first world

[mortal yarrow]

Oh god

[pulsar path]

Ik

It's pretty grim

[mortal yarrow]

One Piece going seasonal just to adapt a chapter per episode is so insane to me

The pacing is still going to be complete garbage

[pulsar path]

It's really a wtf

[graceful belfry]

I think they’re all going to be distinctly defined characters and, if Oda’s good, they’ll have individually established characterization and motivations for teaming up to take out Joyboy and the Ancient Kingdom. Maybe not all powerhouses, but certainly not accessory type characters who just exist to fill in the other 19 spots

[honest garden]

Oh my God, it's sooooooo over lmfaoooo

[mortal yarrow]

Just imagining recent chapters adapted. 10 minutes of the buildings singing before a 5 minute zoom-in on Imu's face.

[pulsar path]

I mean like I hope they do some 1.5 chapters 😭😭😭

[dense haven]

mushy did you like imu

[mortal yarrow]

I don't even think it takes me 20 minutes to READ a chapter of One Piece

[pulsar timber]

Yeah I don’t think there’s a snowballs chance in hell that oda is giving all 19 monarches meaningful characterization and individuality

[opal gull]

takes 5-6 mins

[craggy vapor]

Wiki doesn’t do anything.It were humans who did this.

[pulsar timber]

I think imu and lili will be far and away the most focused of the monarches

[opal gull]

what if they are all inside Imu?

[royal orchid]

like they're 15 pages long

[opal gull]

20n personalities inside Imu

[brittle basin]

Yea, I don't think this is the case either. I don't personally care.

[mortal yarrow]

I'd much rather they just go back to filler arcs than needlessly stretch out episodes

[graceful belfry]

You have no faith. There’s no way Oda’s putting “One of the first 20” in Imu’s intro box without the intention of giving the other 19 intro boxes that say that as well

[ruby moat]

The anime cant adapt more than one chapter per episode or it’d catch up too quickly. Preferably they just take the time up with actually interesting things instead of just fluff

[pulsar path]

You know the flash back they all will play a part o bet

[opal gull]

they should mke the anime seasonal with around 20 eps a year, then they can adapt 2 chaps per ep

[pulsar path]

It's only 26 now

[pulsar timber]

I mean yeah they’ll be named but they aren’t all getting meaningful charactzation

[fast pagoda]

@grand flower also using your proactive/reactive idea with Luffy and Dragon, is that not the same thing as with Luffy and Wyper on Skypiea? Luffy didnt care to take down Enel at all at first, he just wanted to reach Sky Island and have fun, the priests were just a thorn in his side and he went after Enel because he threatened his friends. Meanwhile Wyper was actively planning to take Enel down

[pulsar timber]

We have enough characters to focus as is for that era

[graceful belfry]

That’s like, the standard tho lmao

[opal gull]

with how things are going, OP will be done mid 2028?

[pulsar path]

Naaa lol

[royal orchid]

2030

[pulsar path]

2033

[fast pagoda]

I dislike the idea Skypiea is a microcosm of the whole story, but I do think Enel and Imu are obviously very similar characters and that is no coincidence lol

[dense haven]

op will be done mid

[royal orchid]

op mid

[runic dock]

Yeah like to not actually fill out the void century flashback and go lazy with itTHIS FAR int the game is ridiculous , it has to be meaningful

[runic dock]

People been saying this since dressrossa , it’s not an excuse for laziness

[pulsar timber]

It’s not. I don’t think you’ll be able to say anything significant about them when that flashback is over. There will be a select few that actually gets writing and depth (imu, Lili, maybe a few others). All 19? No. They’ll be named and have dialogue but not much else

[craggy vapor]

They could actually show us offscreen fights or make fights longer with help from Oda.

[pulsar path]

Tbh elbaf had had the least amount of characters it feels like

[mortal yarrow]

I thought that was what they were doing now??

[brittle basin]

I'm doubting these other 19 bozos even get shown on panel.

[mortal yarrow]

Wasn't the whole joke that we were finally getting One Piece season 2?

[runic dock]

You’d have said this about baby 5 in punk hazard , yet even she got meaningful characterization, to have little faith is to not remember the series

[honest garden]

I would just think the entire point of seasonality was to give them more content per episode

[pulsar path]

They do especially laitly the Zoro and luccie fight and bb whole scene is extended I. The latest episode

[vital heart]

are you referring to the kings

[opal gull]

What kind of showing do you think Imu has here?

[pulsar path]

Yeah lol

[brittle basin]

Whoever the original 19 bozos were during the ancient kingdom

[pulsar path]

Only 26 a year but two different seasons I guess

[brittle basin]

besides lili i guess?

there. you get lili and imu

[opal gull]

how many chaps do we get a year?

[runic dock]

I definitely think they will , thy are massively important

[brittle basin]

not enough

[runic dock]

People are really understating their relevancy

[pulsar path]

Between 34-38 I think

[opal gull]

well thats kind of too low

[pulsar path]

It is

[opal gull]

OP will end mid

[pulsar path]

Oda takes alot if breaks

[opal gull]

[brittle basin]

So far, I'm not personally invested. Oda has to give me a reason to care.

[runic dock]

Imu fans be like fuck yeah I love imu , what? Imu’s history? Not important lmao

[urban lodge]

You're not ready for Maffey's ancestor to be the 3rd most important monarch

[royal orchid]

oda should not take breaks I think

[brittle basin]

Imu's history is super imporant. I won't even vote for them until I know more. Speaking of which....

[pulsar path]

They just like that he's sexy

[royal orchid]

[vital heart]

Oda is a slave to the community

[pulsar path]

Like tbh or take breaks to get ahead? Or just get this shit done lmao

[vital heart]

If I were a CD, Oda would be my top slave. I would make sure he's locked and chained in his office, forced to write chapters 24/7.

[runic dock]

Stupid sexy imu…

[honest garden]

I don't doubt we'll get names and current day descendants of the royal families

[vital heart]

@honest garden Is this too much?

[honest garden]

I can't be fucked to read it right now man

[vital heart]

Okay

[wraith mantle]

Imu wanted to rule the world to achieve world peace but those pesky pirates constantly kept disturbing the peace and then he just tweaked out

[pulsar path]

So Stupid ! Like put a shirt on

[runic dock]

Meek wtf

[opal gull]

also what does it mean by Imu's power? it just says Devil Fruit

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/bees-nelson-the-simpson-bee-hive-raking-gif-5473428

[mortal yarrow]

I'm honestly more interested in Imu's history than I am Joyboy's, even if they'll likely be intertwined.

[fast pagoda]

They will lol why wouldnt they

[craggy vapor]

They could show us how Garling got meg diffed twice

[runic dock]

Imu is arguably a pirate as well tbh

[fast pagoda]

I get you dont like the WG but lol

[pulsar path]

Stephen kings misery

[fast pagoda]

I think a lot about what I think the 20 kingdoms were

[opal gull]

You could have VP clone his brain so we can have multiple Oda's writing

[fast pagoda]

I think Ballywood, Eigis and Kano were probably part of it

[vital heart]

And bourgeois

[fast pagoda]

Maybe Lulusia but probably not

[vital heart]

Imo

Bourgeois too

[fast pagoda]

Yeah

[brittle basin]

Oda might show them visually, but I'm not too concerned if he does or not.

[ornate tartan]

meek when is the stream

final villian

[pulsar path]

Meeks is Cathy Bates

[runic dock]

It should definitely be interesting cause I wanna see his origin , what was he first? What combination of things is he? Etc

[brittle basin]

they're just "20 kings who were at war" I don't know, not that enticing

[craggy vapor]

Pirates don’t reside in flower rooms of castles and lead a group of pirate hating marines.

[royal orchid]

oda when he realizes he has to design 19 other fuckers who defeated Joyboy along with Imu and it was still a hard battle

[brittle basin]

make them personal and I might care more

[runic dock]

His relation to the 20 kings is important and how he interacted with them

If he used them

Etc

[graceful belfry]

Void Century flashback has to be meticulously detailed in order to establish the setting of 900 years ago and the array of characters needed to create a conflict that we can invest in beyond “I finally have the answers to this lore”. The First Twenty are essentially the antagonists of Joyboy’s story, along with however Davy Jones fits in. If Joyboy, Imu, Davy Jones, the Mermaid Princess, Lili, and whatever Giant representative, are the only significant characters in that flashback, then it just fails to capture the same sense of a world that’s living that we have in the current time of the story.

[runic dock]

They do if they won

[mortal yarrow]

What if Imu didn't get weaker, being closer to the sea, but instead got stronger?

[fast pagoda]

I think its cool it gives us more info about all the different countries in the OP world

[brittle basin]

Yep, we're never seeing the end of One Piece at this point.

[mortal yarrow]

Getting closer to the sea actually triggered his transformation, and the transformation is just gruesome and painful

[fast pagoda]

Its fun worldbuilding

[brittle basin]

It's cool if Oda makes it cool in the flashback, as it stands right now I don't give them more than a passing thought.

[craggy vapor]

Everyone is grey. There is no black and white. I think that’s a lesson OP wants to teach us

[fast pagoda]

Plus Im really interested in the origins of the Gorosei

Especially nusjuro

[craggy vapor]

well, the origin of Saturn is a skeleton

[brittle basin]

I'm so much more invested in the personal conflict of Imu/Lili/Joy Boy/Davy Jones than the other kings. My opinion will update if those royalty get panel time that fleshes them out in interesting ways.

But that's alot a lot of characters in a world where Oda is gunning for the finish line. I don't have much confidence he will expand on them individually much at all

[pulsar timber]

I see the monarches as similar to the ones we see in the reverie. They may have personaility quirks or whatever and some may get more than others but generally the whole group isn’t getting balanced or super meaningful stuff on an individual level

[brittle basin]

oh lol the image that was in my head was the rountable at the reverie too

like you might get that

[pulsar timber]

Yeah

[fast pagoda]

I have a fun question for yall

[brittle basin]

I have an unfun answer

[fast pagoda]

Do yall think the Devil's Fruit is

• zoan
• paramecia
• logia
• none of them
• all of them

[runic dock]

Agreed completely , it needs to be fleshed out not bullet points

[graceful belfry]

I am too, but there has to be enough to substantiate the idea we’ve been presented of the world 900 years ago. Looking at how elaborate the mural is, I’m inclined to believe that Oda’s ready to present the full scope to us. And the story would be better off for it, imo

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-squidward-follow-glass-gif-4537485

[mortal yarrow]

Oh yeah, where are Imu's wings? Can he retract them at will?

[royal orchid]

the first zoan

the devil fruit

[pulsar timber]

Functionally a zoan but it is truly none of them

[vital heart]

none

[royal orchid]

Primordial Zoan or something

[vital heart]

Do any of you guys have dying wishes

[graceful belfry]

It can’t just be, “these are the past counterparts of characters we know in the story today.” They have to feel like their own individuals with their own conflicts and relationships that go beyond mere reflections

[fast pagoda]

I agree, I think it has abilities of all three and it isnt classified as any

[vital heart]

Like things you wanna accomplish before you die in the 2080s/2090s?

[royal orchid]

holy morbid

[vital heart]

sorry this was much too off topic

Let's talk about Imu's Devil Fruit

[brittle basin]

If Oda can make it interesting and give me a reason to care, then I'm all for it. For example, I cared nothing for Bonney. And then Oda made me care. That's all I need him to do. But there has to be something said bout brevity - a flashback that drags may have the opposite effect that you want.

[pulsar timber]

They won’t be counterparts if you are talking about the monarchs. Their dialogue and decisions will reflect their problems but I don’t equate that to all of them having meaningful characterization or depth.

[fast pagoda]

If it has abilites of all three, I think it would be cool if Imu can turn into/control hellfire or black lightning

[graceful belfry]

I’m not talking about the monarchs specifically, I’m saying the “counterpart” characters should have relationships established outside of with one other. I find the idea of “19 other kings who wanted the benefit of power, but otherwise have nothing worthy of note” to be quite dull considering the actual potential of the flashback

[fast pagoda]

Zoan aspect: Devil transformation
Paramecia aspect: Control over abyss (portals, weapon summoning, posession)
Logia aspect: Controlling hellfire or black lightning

[graceful belfry]

Like, at least make five of them significant and have those be the OG Gorosei’s ancestors or something, if not the OG Gorosei themselves. (Idk why I’m saying OG when Saturn is the only thing that’s changed)

[mortal yarrow]

The more I think about it, the more I feel it doesn't make sense for Imu to get weaker in the lower world, or I am at least not a fan of the idea. I feel like it's more likely that Imu gets stronger, or struggles to control the power of his fruit. If the covenants are essentially contracts with the devil, and they get stronger from shallow to deep sea, is it possible that coming down from Marie Jois literally requires Imu to get closer to the devil? Aside from the coughing and bleeding, Imu doesn't honestly seem very weakened. His subsequent transformation is literally so powerful that it blows the roof off of Aurust Castle's throne room.

Idk.

[cold steppe]

Maybe he's rejected by the sea

Just like the df thing just stronger

[fossil socket]

did it not say power the devils fruit which either means oda doesn't want to know the power yet or imu has the power of devils fruit idk

[mortal yarrow]

What if devil fruit users are cursed to sink in the ocean because it's the devil himself dragging them down to him.

[royal orchid]

Imu gets more... unstable? near water?

[fossil socket]

i feel like the reason wont get explained past being rejected by the sea becuase i personally dont think it needs to

[royal orchid]

would explain the BZZT as imu arrives on elbaf

literally the powers failing

[graceful belfry]

It really all depends on where the flashback is slotted. I’m someone who’s deeply interested in the history of One Piece’s world and the people who have inhabited it across all of time. For that reason, I don’t really mind the idea of 30-50 chapters dedicated to thoroughly conveying the history of this world and the people who have played a role in defining it throughout

[teal sapphire]

Why did yassop shoots bartolomeo crew

[fast pagoda]

Yeah I see that, Imu was screaming when he grew his wings, it felt more like he wasnt used to all this power and was overexerting

[vital heart]

HOLY

SHIT

LUFFY DOESNT HAVE THE HUMAN HUMAN FRUIT MODEL NIKA

HE HAS THE KAMI NO MI

HE HAS GOD’S FRUIT

[fossil socket]

elaborate

[graceful belfry]

Out of principle

[royal orchid]

he has enough observation haki to have heard barto by the way

[vital heart]

Its the counter to the devil fruit

Luffy has the god fruit

Holy fack

[royal orchid]

but there's more than one god

[vital heart]

No

Like

[royal orchid]

4 gods

[vital heart]

Luffys fruit has a 2nd secret name

[teal sapphire]

Oh dem so he heard them

[vital heart]

U idiot

[mortal yarrow]

Well, Imu's power gives him greater control of you the deeper your covenant with him is, all being named after depths of the ocean, and Imu's fruit seems to make him the devil. What if the real devil itself still exists, and Imu literally getting closer to the sea gives the devil greater control of him?

[vital heart]

The secret name is “Kami No Mi”

[royal orchid]

buffoon

nincompoop

ignoramus

[fossil socket]

where is this info from

[brittle basin]

20 is the number I was assuming at the current pace of OP. Had it be pre-ts, I'd be more inclined to think what you're thinking. But then again, Oda can easily surprise us. Rocks' backstory was 10 chapters alone. And the Ancient Kingdom will surely be bigger and more important than him.

[royal orchid]

might've
or just might've wanted to, shanks doesn't have to ask his crew to do something, they just do it

[pulsar timber]

Pre timeskip flashbacks were shorter

[fast pagoda]

Do yall think this is the first time Imu descended since the Void century?

[teal sapphire]

Hmm but what happened to law and kid

Alot of time is passed

[glass plume]

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Confrontation

#ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 6, 2026, 12:16 AM

[fast pagoda]

Just found the funniest OP ship

[golden valley]

Yes

[teal sapphire]

I want to know imus past badly

[dense haven]

oh yea I didnt evenr realize how much yaoi is gonna be made for imu

[graceful belfry]

Lmao

[glass plume]

They've already been drawn with every character you can think of.

[graceful belfry]

Thinking the First Twenty are gonna be dudes similar to Hamburger and Tacos is hilarious, though. Unless that’s not really what you think

[glass plume]

They're probably more badass.

Maybe whoever Charloss ancestor is wasn't.

[graceful belfry]

There’s going to be at least one resident jobber

And it’ll probably be the Roswald family lol

[glass plume]

The coolest ones will probably be, Donquixote, Figarlands, Ethanbaron and uh.. Topman?

[mortal yarrow]

How many people still believe that Elbaf will end in a win for the Strawhats?

[fast pagoda]

Im still sad Nerona Charlos isnt a reality

[royal orchid]

law is alive and recovering as seen in reaction piece

kidd?

[glass plume]

I am hoping that they lose, just because i think it would be fitting given Imu is here.

[distant vine]

I want the opposite but if you made me bet...

[graceful belfry]

I don’t think what’ll happen will be defined as a victory but I also don’t think it’s going to be total doom and gloom with no light at the end of the tunnel

[distant vine]

Thank God Oda showed that Bepo took in Law

[teal sapphire]

Kid dem he is cooking or what?

[mortal yarrow]

I think if Imu loses in yhree different forma, even if being in the lower world DID turn out to weaken him, I would be incredibly disappointed.

[distant vine]

I would have had to fight 10x more Law is dead allegations

[winged sable]

i’m not sure either side will “win.” i think imu will definitely take a few victims like Jarul or Dorry/Broggy but i can also see the SH getting away with frozen Gunko which would then lead to lore reveal with Brook

[glass plume]

Imu losing here in anyway, would probably be disappointing for most.

Imu needs to go on a murderspree and then be forced back due to their own time limit or something.

[vernal ravine]

depend of what winning means to you, ofc they going safe from elbaph but with different mindset i think

[mortal yarrow]

I think the children will be safe and Elbaf will be relatively stable, but I think Loki will be in critical condition along with a few other costs.

[fast pagoda]

Could Imu just not make a portal and take Gunko back

[vernal ravine]

remember imu has a countdown

[graceful belfry]

Steel Heart is something Oda came up with for Kid and Law to fight Holy Knights, I’m so sure. Unless it’s revealed that only Sommers has it, then I wouldn’t understand the purpose for it at all

[pulsar timber]

In the level of characterization and depth they get, I think most will be similar yeah

[glass plume]

Seemingly wouldn't work given they're frozen by Ragnir.

[fast pagoda]

Wait has that been stated?

[brittle basin]

No. I want say this has happened before simply because of how the Gorosei responded.

[mortal yarrow]

When was that said?

[fast pagoda]

I hope Imu takes those fuckass kids

[graceful belfry]

Tears

Maybe. Who knows

[pulsar timber]

Wafalos art is going to be generational

[distant vine]

Most free real estate win for Law ever?

[vernal ravine]

not literally but kinda does it

[teal sapphire]

Took a break but I don't find any difference

[pulsar timber]

I just see.. the truth

[royal orchid]

oda deciding to confirm an important character (Don Krieg) and some random's (Law) well being in the same series of reactions

[distant vine]

Death Surgery would have been more fun though, oh well

[vernal ravine]

gorosei were warning him to not leave maryjoise and he's bledding so he clearly can't be enough time there

[winged sable]

hard to say because she would still be frozen in that block and it seems only breakable by ragnir. if imu already in a damaged state gets more damaged, gunko might be low priority (for now)

[glass plume]

What if Imu breaks the ice.

What would people say then.

[latent hamlet]

Kuzan in shambles

[teal sapphire]

Can I read Manga or wait?

[royal orchid]

didn't know imu still had social skills 800 years later

https://tenor.com/view/amirite-hadesdisney-hades-gif-5584633

[latent hamlet]

Their social skills

THOU. SHALT. NOT. WIN

[mortal yarrow]

We don’t know if he was bleeding and coughing because being in the lower world weakens him or if it’s because his transformation is just violent and painful for him.

[latent hamlet]

Luffy: weirdo
Loki: yea. Weirdo
Ragnir: SQUEAK

[glass plume]

"Ragnir, thou is nothing. Compared to god..!"

[final trench]

“Thats right.”

[glass plume]

Ragnir: "Squeek"

[latent hamlet]

squeaks annoyingly

Loki: he said he gonna freeze u even colder

[vernal ravine]

in both cases if he suffers from that he can't be in elbaph as much as he wants but as much as he lasts

[royal orchid]

you know what your messages kinda feel like right now

[vernal ravine]

so countdown

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-meme-memes-bald-playing-gif-4684571606389468880

[mortal yarrow]

Probably true, but I think he gets the job done before the “countdown” ends

[glass plume]

"A squirrel.. Might do good for thee starving."

[latent hamlet]

[stone terrace]

Steel hearts doesnt matter for kidd lol

[mortal yarrow]

Imu is going to devastate Elbaf, I imagine

[stone terrace]

The solution is right there already

[latent hamlet]

Lets be real meeks we're all just playing pretend at trying to figure out how they interact

[stone terrace]

Allegedly anyway

He has conquerors haki

[latent hamlet]

Except we dont have action figures

[stone terrace]

Allegedly anyway

[grand flower]

You can’t compare any of those characters to Dragon because his stature far exceeds theirs

His ending will be different, having a culmination that also exceeds theirs

Oda already introduced the concept of a secondbig bad being taken down alongside Luffy’s big bad

[glass plume]

YET.

[final trench]

And we got em as a cover story recently

Jika returns

[glass plume]

Eustass Kid would slaughter you.

Crucify you and then pee on you.

He'd do that to any of us.

[latent hamlet]

Imu action figure stop motion videos gonna go crazy

[glass plume]

So true.

[pulsar timber]

Kinky

[stone terrace]

Well id know better than to laugh at a criminal

[glass plume]

Killer told me he does that to those who he kills.

[latent hamlet]

Stop motion videos of the big 3 antagonists

[royal orchid]

a man's slander has no limits

[final trench]

Woahhh

Ya lost me

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-fate-world-obtain-the-one-piece-gif-4698245060877006244

[glass plume]

You think you'd stand a chance against Eustass Kid?

[vernal ravine]

maybe, but there is an excuse if imu suddenly leaves not like before where imu leaving for some reason from gunko's body didn't make much sense

[royal orchid]

fear captain kuro

[blazing mantle]

Who’d you guys vote for today

[fast pagoda]

The anime adapted this so shittily

[glass plume]

I mean yeah, he'd also drop any of us.

[latent hamlet]

Wasn't Kidd training with luffy in the prison with the same amount of rocks?

I think physically they were close?

[stone terrace]

Yea it couldve been better

Ishitani left us

[final trench]

Yes

[glass plume]

Imu.

[glass plume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/johnny-laugh-four

[winged sable]

urouge

[final trench]

Gimme 1 day in the one piece verse and ill be ready

[keen falcon]

Carrot

[dense haven]

vote imu

[royal orchid]

you'd prefer they do it like the rocks pirates intro?

https://youtu.be/89Au6LJpKL0?t=60&si=VjiQV6SuE9jVC36j

[stone terrace]

The rock pirates

🪨

[pulsar timber]

The secret garling agenda

What is bud planning

[glass plume]

Garling having a secret agenda is so hype.

I really hope that Oda goes further with it.

[royal orchid]

also I just learnt you can share with timestamp on mobile

so that helps

[fast pagoda]

Definitely

[keen falcon]

Ngl the holy knights feel pretty weak compared to the straw hats

I wish they were introduced earlier

Especially if Chopper nulls their Imu buff LOL

[cold steppe]

Either they'll be powered up or they'll power up Imu

Like Imu consumes them or something

[fast pagoda]

I want to go on a rant about how I hate the regeneration ability and I dont like how Oda is starting to treat the knights but Ill save it for another day

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shaky-cam-found-footage-chopper-dr-chooper-gif-3249813292836039258

[final trench]

The throne

[soft tangle]

Guess I’ll just… not get another gold 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[final trench]

The figarlands were originally promised the throne

But imu took it

[royal orchid]

alright guys who do I vote for today

[keen falcon]

Carrot

[still mason]

Wb

[soft tangle]

It’s cause Oda made Logias too op and wanted to spread the sauce

[royal orchid]

if I get gold I'm locking in until the end of the votes

[stone terrace]

Vinsmoke romeo

[brittle basin]

Buggy

[royal orchid]

never voting her again

not even silver, oda is a hack

[keen falcon]

"Haki" is such a boring weakness though, logias having elemental weaknesses makes them interesting

[dense haven]

thats the vote needed for her to pass your favorite

[glass plume]

Logias main weakness is haki though.

[soft tangle]

They still both require haki

[keen falcon]

That's one option

[soft tangle]

HKs just require MORE haki

[keen falcon]

But it's not the only option

[royal orchid]

remember when sea stone wasn't just cuffs

[glass plume]

It's the main one, given everyone doesn't have an elemental logia to counter.

[cold steppe]

I mean it's nothing new

[keen falcon]

Yeahh but things like the environment can provide those weaknesses, like luffy vs crocodile

[cold steppe]

Celestial dragons getting the treatment

[keen falcon]

It's so much better than "my power is stronger"

[still mason]

I miss Smoker's jutte

[soft tangle]

Usopp doesn’t get flatten by any of these

[glass plume]

We've really only seen that with Crocodile though.

Enel was countered thanks to Luffy specifically.

[latent hamlet]

Counter magma by....throwing enough water at it

[glass plume]

Other than that I don't remember any logias who has had counters like that.

Even Greenbull has a fire resistance somehow.

[latent hamlet]

Counter ice by being hot

[latent hamlet]

"GO PLANTS THAT SUMMON WATER"

[keen falcon]

Well he could be countered by any form of insulation I would think

[latent hamlet]

Raizo: fuck u

[keen falcon]

Luffy just happened to have a natural body of it

The admiral's logias are the only ones I think are super hard to counter elementally off the top of my head

Which is part of why they're admiral level

[glacial bear]

Ooo YOU SPITTING FACTS 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[glass plume]

Does smoke have a counter?

[stone terrace]

Yea not all logias are created equal

[glass plume]

Other than haki.

[soft tangle]

Luffy grabbed Kizaru without any haki in gear 5 😂

[stone terrace]

Legislation

[latent hamlet]

Ace fire seemed to clash fine with it

Uhh u can blow it away really hard

Dragon hard counters smoker confirmed

[keen falcon]

Yeah fire cancels out the smoke

[glass plume]

[stone terrace]

Smoker is still a bum for that

[royal orchid]

https://x.com/i/status/2041166449981468869

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#ONEPIECE1179
Descent

X · Apr 6, 2026, 2:49 PM

[still mason]

I feel like Crocodile should be pretty effective against Ryokugyu

[stone terrace]

😭

[cold steppe]

They cancel each other

In one piece anyway

[soft tangle]

If smoker was introduced now, he’s top 10

[stone terrace]

Thats why i feel like that fight will happen

[glass plume]

Yeah make him dry.

[stone terrace]

Albeit a little random

[royal orchid]

every single one piece fanart since 1179 dropped

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[keen falcon]

There's good fanart?

Of who?

[still mason]

But is Oda goated enough to have Crocodile take down an admiral?

[keen falcon]

Not Imu, he's just a fuckboy

[runic dock]

Can’t wait for imu to throw up blood into luffys face as a viable diversionary tactic

[royal orchid]

the fuckboy

[stone terrace]

Croc is below admirals but his fruit being uniquely suited to fight greenbull works

But oda is the king of inconclusive piece so it would be a short clash in my estimation

[glacial bear]

What’s a fuckboy to a fucking GOD aka Usopp

[runic dock]

That’s true , since fire isn’t greenbulls weakness , it’s definitely croc

[soft tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/crocodile-akainu-jimbei-luffy-monkey-d-luffy-gif-26677077

[keen falcon]

Where does Cross Guild fit into the story at this point lmao

[royal orchid]

what's a god to a non believeeeeer

https://tenor.com/view/nico-robin-usopp-gross-dont-dry-it-on-me-dry-hands-gif-19968221

[finite abyss]

usually that sort of stuff is due to the nature of scans using halftone print to print grays

[glass plume]

Anywhere really.

[runic dock]

I need Usopp to be THIS close to getting deleted from existence , otherwise his “moment” won’t hit at all

[still mason]

They'll be at Laugh Tale for sure

[runic dock]

Wherever Oda wants that’s the magic of cross guild

[blazing depot]

When they’re mean to Usoppu in Wan Piesu

[glacial bear]

It would make for a saucy manga event card ngl

[keen falcon]

I feel like cross guild wouldn't be able to beat the straw hats

At all

[runic dock]

Mihawk being in cross guild guarantees them a spot in the final

[royal orchid]

they're still just a bounty company

[runic dock]

Unless mihawk just fucking decides to leave I guess lol

[keen falcon]

Welll if Buggy was awakened he might be Sukuna

[royal orchid]

not a PMC

[glacial bear]

Crocodile is smart. I think he will ask Moria to resurrect and dispatch the unluckies

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-la-mr-13-miss-friday-one-piece-live-action-one-piece-live-action-season-2-gif-10371065572643182009

[blazing mantle]

Why do they do Gil so dirty man

[runic dock]

I need imu blood vomit tactics in 1180 or Oda is a hack

[runic dock]

Renamed Mr 6 and Ms 7

[blazing mantle]

Say that again

[brittle basin]

Sanji's LA fight was so funny

[royal orchid]

oda HATES gil bastar
he doesn't even show up in the volume cover with all the rocks pirates

[bold sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-67-67-south-park-67-south-park-6-7-gif-13284396363591354590

[blazing mantle]

I was so upset about that

Oda can’t decide wether to keep him in canon limbo or just make him official

[runic dock]

He would become too popular he’s afraid of Gil bastar’s aura

Can’t have an old mc overshadow the current

[glass plume]

Didn't Oda say that Gil is a character that is okay to forget, lol.

[blazing mantle]

Toei will animate wanted soon

So it’s chill

[royal orchid]

what kind of author puts a reference to his own past works in his current project and then ignore it

[blazing mantle]

I’ll believe it when I see it

[runic dock]

Sounds like gaslighting

Oda ain’t making me do shit

[dense haven]

no he said that about shiki

[runic dock]

I WILL never forget him

[glass plume]

close enough

[blazing mantle]

Odas acting like he himself isn’t choose to make Gil a rocks pirate and directly address him TWICE in an sbs

[runic dock]

Bait

[blazing mantle]

😒

Pushing it

[royal orchid]

oda wants you to- no

https://tenor.com/view/venom-crush-tongue-marvel-gif-15826606

[blazing mantle]

Don’t switch up when he’s the one who trained augur

Gil bastar the worlds strongest sniper

Aim so true he can shoot ghosts dead

[runic dock]

Oda when you pay attention to his manga : ??????

[cold steppe]

He's the roger to bogard

[blazing mantle]

Sure

[glass plume]

"WHAT HOW DID YOU NOTICE THAT... LOL"

[blazing mantle]

Don’t forget

[runic dock]

Give me some credit bro I passed high school

😔

[cold steppe]

He did say don't take the manga seriously

[royal orchid]

oda when the story he wrote for 30 years has people theorizing about it

[blazing mantle]

He wants us to turn our brains off or something?

[glass plume]

Yes.

[runic dock]

I’m convinced he said this cause he saw people using SH flags in protests so he’s like I’m just a little tiny comic book I don’t mean anything 🥺

He’s smart

[royal orchid]

underground indie manga series One Piece

[cold steppe]

Not to mention those who went looking for the one piece irl

[glass plume]

Oh right.

[blazing mantle]

Has anybody found that thing yet

[glass plume]

Oda basically said "Y'all need to get a fuckin' life."

[royal orchid]

same guy who named the revolutionary army's ship Wind Granma

oda is a hack

[runic dock]

[royal orchid]

[runic dock]

He said yall need to chill without saying it

[glass plume]

It would be funny if he said what i said though.

[runic dock]

It would

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-star-wars-good-goooooood-evil-gif-12447951

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-crash-out-crashout-lightning-gif-5743222025513960317

[runic dock]

Me when I don’t want well fleshed out characters

[fast pagoda]

The knights should not be like that

They're still people who were handpicked by Imu to be elite soldiers

[brittle basin]

me when I want others to suffer for the sake of suffering over a topic i have no personal stake in. 😈

[runic dock]

You and all of discord

[fast pagoda]

Buffy are you also a Shiki slanderer

[brittle basin]

I have no actual thoughts on Shiki.

I just like to poke fun at him

Shitki*

[runic dock]

God please let us cut back to mariejois after Elbaf is done and see Garling in pieces AGAIN by a Davy clan members

[glass plume]

Dragon will do that.

[runic dock]

Need Garling to turn into a Davy clan beat stick

All the figarlands

Even 900 years ago

And in current era including shanks

[ornate tartan]

cry

figarland piece

[fast pagoda]

Me too

Glorified cameo

[runic dock]

Also hope important last names were part of the 20 kings like donquixote , figarland , shepherd

[glass plume]

Definitely were.

They are some of the founding families after all.

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/trungroi2/status/2041142739413221835?s=20

有害無罪 (@trungroi2)

Nerona Imu but hooman (blob) form
ネロナイム

X · Apr 6, 2026, 1:15 PM

[hot cairn]

shiki will never return

[blazing depot]

Shiki is a glorified movie villain that Oda thought fit the Rocks timeline

[runic dock]

You guys love baiting me

Smh

I am beyond petty shit slinging

[blazing depot]

Oda suggests that Shiki fans should watch Strong World, which is their worst nightmare

[runic dock]

Found an important one piece quote

“Satan is amongst us.” - Theo Von

[runic dock]

He also says reading one piece is a waste of time

So

Idc what Oda is gaslighting us into believing outside the manga

The manga is all there is , and in th manga shiki exists and his fate is unknown

Everything else can fuck off

[royal orchid]

🧯

[glass plume]

So who is the man marked by flame.

[blazing depot]

YOU the reader

[glass plume]

Oh right, I forgot that i threw myself into the fire 20 years ago.

[ashen rose]

The man marked by flames were the friends we made along the way

[brittle basin]

@ashen perch

not perfect, but kind of neat

[deep chasm]

@ashen perch you said somerthing about biblio being something to do with roger, maybe it was in the egg on the ship. But Im claiming the idea if it somehow came true

[ashen rose]

Didn't even come close

[brittle basin]

No. Arsal has a theory this could be Imu's true form.

[blazing depot]

why he ourple

[ashen rose]

He's purple for an amazing reason

Ig there's this too

[brittle basin]

is he purple for royalty?

[ashen rose]

I WANT THE BREAK WEEK TO END ALREADY PLEASE ODA PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE

[inner chasm]

Episode 504 corresponds to which manga chapter?

[ashen rose]

My friend barely knows anything about one piece, I just told him to color this panel like how oda does it with other characters and he gave me these two

[glass plume]

I like this.

[brittle basin]

Red seems to be the go-to color

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-danksonicfan-xxsonicfan2008xx-wobble-edit-invincible-gif-3697363305556737171

[brittle basin]

i'm still banking on lunarian or both

[ornate tartan]

he’s gonna be brown

[glass plume]

It being on the nose with the devil themes is just so fitting.

[ashen rose]

That's really fucking cool actually

[ashen rose]

(un) holy

[fallen meteor]

são nerona imu sounds so wrong

[fast pagoda]

Ok i finished my op fighterz roster

[ashen rose]

Verdade

[glass plume]

I kinda hope that the eye on their hand is also red, to match with their actual eye.

[fast pagoda]

this is meant to be like after the series

[ashen rose]

Santos is a more literal translation

And makes more sense imo

[blazing depot]

That didn’t stop Ridley…

[ashen rose]

They said the same thing for ridley in ssbu

[ashen rose]

Lol

[blazing depot]

Also Garlic in base roster and no Katakuri is wild work

[fast pagoda]

both purple too

[ashen rose]

Forget katakuri, why is smoker dlc? He's one of the OGS

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-bouncing-gif-9591069080937483571

[fallen meteor]

you change your name too much

[fast pagoda]

because im still a garlic glazer at heart

kat is dlc

[fallen meteor]

you need to have the root somewhere

[ashen rose]

Okay this is too much

[glacial bear]

I’m evolving gears

[glass plume]

Yeah, I kinda agree.

[royal orchid]

são paulo

[glass plume]

The grey doesn't go well with the red.

[fast pagoda]

also i wanted at least 1 other world noble aside from imu

[blazing depot]

The only thing Garling has going for him is that legendary VA Neil Kaplan is voicing him in English 😭

[glacial bear]

Brazil??

[ashen rose]

Não, Portugal

[glacial bear]

Ohhh

[royal orchid]

já sabe pai

[fallen meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347667198843555951/1487309620094701729/ansxtv.gif

[fast pagoda]

the man on god valley was NOT garling

that was his nephew figarland onling

[ashen rose]

It's literally true tho

[fallen meteor]

são paulo in portugal?!

[ashen rose]

I get it that são makes more sense, kinda like how saint Joseph became são João, but adapting it to Santos makes it better and less weird

[ashen rose]

Maybe

[fallen meteor]

it sounds ok because we are used to it

[royal orchid]

but santos is a surname, not a title

[fallen meteor]

should be singular

santo nerona imu

[blazing depot]

Vaguepost king 👑

[royal orchid]

são joão

[ashen rose]

São jao

[royal orchid]

jão

[glass plume]

The gold kinda slaps.

[ashen rose]

Piss

Ichor or something

[royal orchid]

is this the new minecraft update

[fallen meteor]

são joão...são jão...sanjuan.... i miss my buddy here

[ashen rose]

THAT thing will happen

[fast pagoda]

high cortisol clearposter warcury vs low cortisol vagueposter nusjuro

[royal orchid]

censored the background
weak

[ashen rose]

Nerona IMU dos santos

[royal orchid]

Nero Naimú dos Santos

[ashen rose]

Emperor Nero

[iron oriole]

Los Santos?

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

[royal orchid]

Dia de Todos Los Santos?

[ashen rose]

Peacefully

[royal orchid]

ohh shit it's the thingamajig

[ashen rose]

The doohickey

A contraption of sorts

[iron oriole]

Si?

[glass plume]

No, it's your new father.

[royal orchid]

in like a Tumblr way or

[woven heron]

Dont pretend to be tuff boy

[glass plume]

No, I mean- they-

Whatever...

[royal orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548161219249438740/1486304391995723849/fade.webp

[glass plume]

The coloring is ass, but damn grey looks good.

It makes their eye stand out.

[iron oriole]

I kinda like the idea of Imu being gold

Just a Golden "God"

[glass plume]

Could work.

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-sengoku-sengoku-one-piece-marineford-gif-24812131

[iron oriole]

Exactly

[fallen meteor]

ehhh makes me think of that icecream

[rose rune]

tri colore

[fallen meteor]

its napolitano here

[dense haven]

viva la france

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/french-coq-gif-25827960

[iron oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hellmo-french-baguette-chaos-gif-24577820

[glacial bear]

Baguettes are delicious

https://tenor.com/view/cat-baguette-toy-cute-gif-16071533

[rose rune]

you really just walked in here and said bread is delicious

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-flashbang-3

[proud pivot]

haha

don’t color again lil nigga

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-deadpool-deadpool3-ryan-reynolds-mcu-gif-11540745881539437840

[brittle basin]

80s hair metal imu

[rose rune]

"you intrigue me brook. join me, and we will rock their world"

[keen falcon]

If Imu had this coloration I wouldn't be opposed to his design

[dense haven]

yall hyped for chapter?

[keen falcon]

Of course but it's gonna be another week

[rose rune]

I can't wait for this week's chapter. I hope it's not a break week

[keen falcon]

it's a break week

[dense haven]

they should bring back yassified zoro memes

[rose rune]

oh man, this thursday will be a blast

[keen falcon]

Anytime the cliffhanger is too interesting you know it's another break week

[brittle basin]

we know it's a break week. everyone here does. we just dick around

[iron oriole]

She break on my week till i chapter

[tawny wagon]

What

[iron oriole]

What?

[fallen meteor]

she confirmed by on my break week after this until i pew

[brittle basin]

how long have you been saving this one?

[ashen rose]

What does that even mean?

[ashen rose]

slayyy or something like that

[brittle basin]

finally some good tinfoil

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-gif-10587157

[glacial bear]

Ark Maxim is high key mogging

https://tenor.com/view/enel-goro-goro-no-mi-electricity-maxim-ark-skypiea-gif-8699809868321678256

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/zoro-vs-enel-eneru

[rose rune]

probably my favorite zoro image

[tidal onyx]

Imu is bringing their maxim to elbaf thou trust

York is making more mother flame for it

https://tenor.com/view/lulusia-destroy-gif-13857056240706324027

[iron oriole]

Yes

[bold sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-gold-gold-gold-gold-cs2-cs2-cases-gif-10056763089801407532

Surviving another break week

[glacial bear]

Honestly I wonder who was mewing for the model of ark maxim

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-gif-1705434821941042258

[glass plume]

I think that Enel modeled the golden figure on Ark Maxim after himself, lol.

[final trench]

Imu sets zoro on fire 😔 💔

[final trench]

Facts bro its only monday

FAWWWWWWKKKKKKK

[warm sierra]

Golden week is soon too

[dense haven]

wtf how many golden weeks are there

[wraith ingot]

Dead chat

Lolz

[bold sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-reaction-culture-shock-shocked-valorant-gif-1754855560455528863

[dense haven]

mid chapter nothing to talk about

[bold sonnet]

Me waiting for the chapter

[bold sonnet]

[rose rune]

3 counting the live action

[wraith mantle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/true-truth-nuke-1

[brittle basin]

LA mental breakdown Goldenweek>>>>>>

[echo lake]

brooo

i love these videos

[craggy vapor]

damn

[brittle basin]

i was hoping this would happen too. the original G5 one is a classic

obviously this one is fake, but i hope someone does it for real

[craggy vapor]

inb4 Imu has pink hair

[runic dock]

There’s no fucking way

[mild bone]

How did sabo escape marjoua so easily?

[runic dock]

The only way this is acceptable is if that is the same guy who made g5 yellow

And he’s just going for a theme now

[glass plume]

It's the same fucking guy.

[soft tangle]

Holy knights were asleep

[runic dock]

Holy based

He had to fix his mistake somehow

[echo lake]

THATS SO TUFF

[glass plume]

Same arm too...

[runic dock]

Wait

[glass plume]

I sense ai.

[craggy vapor]

who?

[runic dock]

Same everything yeah it shopped

[craggy vapor]

oh

[brittle basin]

it is AI. the original is of G5 luffy wrongly colored

[runic dock]

Altho…

[brittle basin]

this is the original

[warm sierra]

Piss Imu

[echo lake]

Guys can someone explain what happened the latest chapters please

[warm sierra]

Reading the chapter explains the chapter

[echo lake]

the last chapter I read was when Imu possessed Saturn in God Valley

[runic dock]

Imu was tired of using gunko as a host because it was getting him nowhere and he got ragebaited by Usopp calling him a pussy , so he brought his real body out which hasn’t left mariejois in a long time

[rose rune]

I don't think anyone is gonna repeat this mistake again

[echo lake]

I'm reading the latest chapter now but im kinda behind

[craggy vapor]

oh lul, it even has the AI watermark

[warm sierra]

Egghead Oda would have made Nika look like this

[echo lake]

OH I THOUGHT THE USOPP RAGEBAIT WAS A JOKE

[rose rune]

everyone dies.
now go read or I'll mangamute you until you're caught up

[echo lake]

NOOO IM READING RIGHT NOW

[runic dock]

It’s like 85% what actually happened

Tho not completely directly

Steps in between

[rose rune]

then no more "what happened" questions

[runic dock]

Usopp called out imu by saying they’re using cheap dirty tricks

Then after imu tries DR on Loki and Luffy and it doesn’t work which he already suspected

He brings his real body out

[hot cairn]

this has to be ai

[frail kindle]

it is

it has the watermark

[echo lake]

why does his real body have elbaf clothes though

[runic dock]

If not Ai , it was at least good old photoshop

Definitely not real lol

[runic dock]

I mean that’s an interesting observation , he does have a belt similar to them , maybe it’s old era clothes

Nika had a belt like that too I think

[rose rune]

haaaa. I just remembered I saw my first tick of the year yesterday. it's finally proper spring

[runic dock]

Ew

[echo lake]

Yeah I was thinking maybe his form adapted to Elbaf in some way

[runic dock]

Hmmm, I thought of it was a war trophy

[winged sable]

hard to say because the panel that has his clothes is from a distance but the belt and big ring are both elbaf-y

[runic dock]

Wearing what belonged to his enemy

[echo lake]

what if Imu can shapeshift and this is only one of his many forms

[winged sable]

but then there’s also wano elements in there so i’m curious when we get a full body shot of his clothes what the complete look really is

[rose rune]

it was walking around in my cat's fur so when I cuddled with him it fell off and dropped on the floor.
had to pick it up and flush it down the toilet

[runic dock]

Signs point to yes , the devil is a shapeshifter anyway , also this panel likes he’s coming out of a cocoon , it’s like his original body also will have a reveal later

[rose rune]

IIIIIIIII!!!!