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goda

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"the york effect"

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Did York no diff Garling in the recent chapter

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yes

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remember when people were actually upset they didn't show the straw hats shooting bubbles at the seraphim and punching the shit out of York

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but oda clearly got bored of that plotline

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I dont think he did

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he showed what was necessary

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he did a murder mystery and skipped the actual conclusion of it

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should have skipped all of it

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i was ok with the skipping, but I know others weren't

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sure would’ve been great to see how robin got injured and put out of commission for the entire arc

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i don't blame them

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thick mango
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chimney is great

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rich hornet
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Wait so guys..yall don’t think maybe imu isn’t evil ?

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yeah maybe the fascist dictator of the world whose explicit goal is to subdue all threats to his position at the top deserves to be heard out actually

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oh no he’s evil alright

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even if he’s complex and fleshed out that won’t change the fact he’s evil

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"I know there's still good in you"

thick mango
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imu is undoubetdly evil in the present, the actions of lulusia, the way they talk about themselves and humans, the regime they oversee

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but that doesnt mean imu was always like this, personally im speculating that imu was good/neutral in the past, having some kind of reasonable point

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Also oda knew something we didn't about the people at the top trafficking innocent children for exploitation

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and the current state of the evil governance is the result of vicious cycles self reinforcing over time

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Imu is wrong and a bad person, but they will also be given a sad backstory

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itll be like doffy or charcters like that

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it could be much worse😭

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yall gonna cry when imu flashback

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Im sure oda will make imus childhood very sad, but they'll still be a bad person at the end of the day

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crying for the devil

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oda is actually top 1 if he pulls that off

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And everyone else?

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Yeah he didn't directly abuse her, but he was the major reason she was abused in the first place

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he's evil for perpetuating a system that causes evil. even if he's not causing the harm personally

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i do hope the ancient kingdom were an oppressor of sorts, intentionally or not

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I forgot his name

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vander decken

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Jonah's or something?

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no i'm lying to you

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Wait no

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Vander decken is the creep

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hody jones

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I for once want a villain whose agenda is just push the oppressive system they benefit from

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I don't need sappy story

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Yes him

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He stayed in Wano and called it a day

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# ashen rose Yeah like keeping that system of oppression strong and healthy👍

I understand where you’re coming from, but even without imu leading anything, shit will still happen. Imu isn’t the one who has the brains for everyone that’s a CD. He has his own shit to perhaps do, and is labeled the bad guy for it. I still think women would be abused without him leading abusers or creating a group of them. Those specific individuals would be born with that same ugly mindset and go abuse people & women regardless if Imu was alive or not. Dumb bitch.

If we find out he personally set ppl to ruin them, ok say less. I’m definitely an evil whore, bitch what ever. How could I be a boa fan and say imu is good? I’ll take it back but I need proof first before blaming imu.

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chill😭😭

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stolen from manga

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shanks gotta be stopped

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Garp

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The same Imu that could’ve freed the slaves in Marijoa or allowed the giants and fishmen to join the reverie

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Fisher Tiger would’ve been a legend no matter what

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He was that kind of person

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I might have fallen for the bait

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Same for Mont Blanc Noland

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# ripe estuary Comparison to show how bad Imu is

I see. I do think imu is bad, originally if you guys have seen me rant here before but now that I looked at things, since there’s a huge break. I noticed VEGA PUNK indicated no one is right or wrong, in terms of the WG and piracy. So…idk.

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Vegapunk doesnt know enough

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it is certainly psosible we'll see imu in childhood was a better person or something

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but at the end of the day theyre bad now and they cant do anything to redeem themself

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VP doesn’t make assumptions based on incomplete data because that’s not how a good scientist operates

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Agreed tho

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Who wants Imu redeemed?

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me

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yall aint ready for the imu redemption arc

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imu can be rehabilitated with the power of fake flashbacks

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imu will never be redeemed

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yall telling me the devil will be redeemed

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I think it's possible it will be reframed more as an order vs chaos conflict rather than good vs evil

ornate tartan
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he’s a fkn oppressor😂

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Tbh real he is the devil, maybe after having the devil fruit something happened to him

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!!

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altho I think in practice luffy is always very clearly morally in the right even if the character is technically ambiguous

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yep exactly

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"I want to live" - imu to the elder stars

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Guys we gotta redeem Imu. He's hot

royal orchid
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:/

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DEFINITELY EVEN MORE

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Imu will kill everyone and I will be happy

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DOO NOTT REDEEEM

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I feel like the recent stuff like god valley kindof made the WG too over the top evil to really do a storyline like this anymore

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like pre-Egghead I think you could maybe just about justify an opinion that the world government sucks but people support it because theyre worried someone like Kaido could take over instead

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but now we know that they just do genocide on a regular basis for fun it's like, clearly they're actually the bad guys

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100x more copies sold

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100x better story

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100x more merchan to sell

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They delete entire islands... them being the bad was pretty set

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# ripe estuary That doesn’t mean they haven’t done wrong things or let them happen. Plus Vegapu...

Yes everyone has done bad things, but just because he rules specific people, doesn’t mean that he’s the one doing it.

Again, it was an assumption I even argued w someone the other day that imu deserves to be punished. It’s just, I’m starting to think we will get “domi reversi” lol.

Like it’s just very strange. He’s in the verge of death, is in pain but still proceeds to show himself after all this time.
What vega punk said can’t be lie, so what exactly was he referring to? What if the devils fruit has a mind of its own? Like idk. But idk why ppl coming for my neck based off assuming he doesn’t have ill intentions perhaps. lol it was a thought..

royal orchid
# ashen rose

I've been posting this one all day today I love it

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we didn't know what they were trying to hide, it was presumably for self-preservation

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wheras god valley there was literally no reason for

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next week is break

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there arent any 1180s

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I think blackbeard and luffy are irreconcilable

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regardless of morality the two will never agree on anything

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Ig that's more personal

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Also he's ugly and fat

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so he is absolutely an antagonist by that measure

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And that makes him unredeemable

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well blackbeard isn’t good at all vortex but imu is way worse tbh

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you got snailed vortex

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it's odd because rocks honestly came off as a better person than the roger pirates in the context of god valley

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he was there to save his family rather than just to grab some treasure

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so what we saying? most of the blackbeard hate comes from the fact that he’s fat and ugly

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in a series about pirates blackbeard is the only character who actually acts like a pirate

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he steals things

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and attacks towns

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They think he's badly written because he doesn't fight honorably

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Despite the fact that he's a pirate

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A pirate? Cheating? How could this be

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that’s his whole thing

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I dont think people think hes badly written, its just fair to not like a cowardly character

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it's also because he's a foil for luffy who is honest to the point of stupidity

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where luffy is brave and inspiring blackbeard is cowardly but cunning

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He acts the most piratelike

deep chasm
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He's not "cowardly" I say, mainly just smart

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He is also cowardly at times

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He's smart enough to know he's weak

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Kidd is brave and still gets hate

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I wouldn't call it cowardly

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According to Usopp pirates are very righteous and just and would never cheat

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which compared to many characters just makes him cowardly

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To know where to quit

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Which is why he jumps people and catch them off guard

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yeah I guess in the context of one piece it comes off as cowardice because almost everyone else has a huge amount of pride

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He’s brave but the reason for his hate is because there’s a time and place to be “brave”
Not cocky

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blackbeard will just jump people and dodge fights he doesnt think he can win

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RIP kidd

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Kidd is a Shanks larper

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BB honestly still feels like a more logical final antagonist to me than imu

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just due to his presence in the story

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I think he's a character who's hard to hate

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Kidd attacking Shanks fleet (assuming it’s public knowledge that Shanks fleet is composed of bums!!) is good grounds to clown him and hate him.

deep chasm
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He's an annoying asshole, he's cheating but he's so a dreams man

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I guess luffy vs BB isn't that personal atm but that will change when blackbeard kills shanks

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They want IMU or akainu

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Akainu

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Really?

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Because of ace ig

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mainly because it’s hard to imagine Blackbeard being a capable 1v1 fighter. He has no close combat feats and his strategy is just grabbing DF users. Most top tiers would just blitz his big ass

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its blackbeard or imu, akainu was never really in the running

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Imu on the other hand is imposing as hell

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akainu for final villain was a thing until imu was revealed, maybe a little while after imus reveal

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and he doesn't fight fair, his entire crew is jumping you

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look at the haki flex from his elbaph arrival

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It's just that from the part I'm in, a lot of the hate comes from people not wanting him to be the big nad

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# ripe estuary Idk bout other people but it’s simple for me. Imu is the king of the world and i...

Ofc, but let’s first see who’s the real cause of the chaos of the world. We have this general idea he’s the evil of all kind. And ofc we are led to presume that he’s the root to all evil, and it must be stopped. But it may not stop just there, that’s the problem. BB is still around, and I believe he knows the truth this to why he’s the way he is w his ppl. Re making the “ancient kingdom” perhaps idk. Anyways, it was just a random thought digging up stuff, and so I wanted everyone’s opinion and thoughts. Minus him being super hot, but still. I do think he will still die but evil still won’t be stopped, unless..idk lol

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The last villain is going to be Carrot. Trust me

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Loki is my dark horse pick for final villain

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think about the way the legendary character is framed even if he's an ally for now

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Ace is the final villain

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alternatively buggy

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Also why the fuck would he be evil?

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Or ig the main villain

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he doesn't necessarily need to be evil, just a force that's opposed to our protagonists

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He's not exactly a righteous person

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I guess main villain is pretty unlikely but I do think he could turn out to be a villain

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oh

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main villain is crazy lol

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like he's a legendary figure of destruction

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@deep chasm do you think BB is a skilled fighter, or at least as skilled as Luffy

he’s not a weapon user so he probably fights cqc like luffy unless he’s using his quake fruit

but there’s probably a massive speed difference between the two

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like the straw hats honestly already seemed too strong going into elbaph and they've just been given another extremely strong legendary character for free?

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Hes so not becoming a villain

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not the type of guy to fight a 1v1

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Why would anyone expect a fair fight with BB

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the thing is luffy has multiple catastrophic weaknesses that a smart opponent could exploit

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But I understand where you're coming from, it's difficult seeing Lokis character after Elbaph

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I cannot envision him winning a fair fight

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Unless Elbaph starts the great war and he's forced to fight

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Which would be the most logical conclusion

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like if he fights Loki 1v1 he’s getting slammed

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I’m sorry what? Why must loki be evil lol

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Like blackbea-

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blackbeard with prep time

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also blackbeard has won some insane fights offscreen which suggests he might have some hidden tech

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you really cant really on fights like that for BB, narrative is what matters

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and I think BB will be getting a powerup before the end of the story

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what power up will luffy get to match that

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because they are going to fight eventually

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I don't see him being a king, but Elbaph really fucking needs one

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no clue, more haki, more time in g5 is a must for sure

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sure

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sea prism, sea water, the food thing, time limit

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Anything else

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I must say the gear5 time limit is a really bad weakness to have lol

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and he has not been able to do that since

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it is still a big issue

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Like when I first saw it I’m like wtf!!

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the time limit is a bigger problem if your opponent refuses to fight one on one

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Just saying, BB could totally just capture someone from the strawhats and use them as a hostage

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since whenever you run out someone else can tag in and attack you

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Luffy basically must defeat his opponent within a time frame..

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Or anything more scummy and extremely dishonest

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# ripe estuary He just didn’t do it

so theres multiple times he should have if it was something he could easily access, but its not. And again, at best that gives him a few more minutes, its still a time limit

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Plus Luffy has been working with time limits since he’s had the Gears

It’s not really an exploitable weakness

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Insane glowup

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like kaido was strong obv but he also had a strong sense of honour

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he wasn't going to just run away and kite luffy until his form ran out

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you have no proof that his stamina in g5 is any better than before

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kaido had to meet luffy at full strength for his pride

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so thats not a great showing for luffy

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it takes him the entire g5 time period to hit kizaru, and we find out kizaru was not actually incapacitated

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Why do all the silhouettes have curls?

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so yes until further notice g5 time limit is a large weakness of him

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He even grew up

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Rocks has spicky hair

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also the dark dark fruit can disable fruit powers

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Why do all silhouettes have curls

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so if blackbeard gets the jump on luffy he's just helpless

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I m ean rocks has one of the most accurate designs compared to silhouette

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Idk but it seems like imu DF has the power of all DF no?

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Or am I tripping

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Or at least not all of it

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Hes just aura farming

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it could be like the gorosei and just a thematic devil power

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He legitimately looks like a Naruto character

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I mean the gorosei dont got fruits either it seems like

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not a naruto character, but it somewhat generic of a design

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I agree his design looks a bit odd

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naruto invented ukiyoe

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# ashen rose We haven't seen his ability yet

Yeah but when he made an entrance, reminded me of big mom making living things have souls, cause the trees and other things ended up living evily lol so I’m sssuminf his df power has some similarities with others or some shit

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like it's very standard cool when one piece characters usually have at least one super goofy element

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There

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I don't think this is the base imu

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The same way G5 luffy isn't how luffy actually looks like

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I guess you sometimes get a more serious design like katakuri

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naruto invented japan I can't believe oda just going to plagiarize it like that

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Imu better be handsome still

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i feel like imu being kinda generic and edgy is kinda the point
like hes just that different, and old

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The hair looks like luffys in G5 but longer

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Apparently ppl r saying he actually has wings..

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there is an air vs land vs sea kindof motif right

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Depends on the color

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Idc what it is atp it’s hot

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imu is the land, wielder of the original devil fruit which we know the sea hates

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I was thinking Imu was the see personified cause ya know Umi. I guess their name
Makes sense as the opposite of the sea tho

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poseidon is the sea representative, and then the sky people are the third faction

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Why is the sea an oppressor?

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what kinda translation

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Davy jones earth god
Imu forest god
Luffy/Nika/Joyboy sun god of course

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Sea god poseidon

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what about the moon?

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# celest socket what about the moon?

What about it? The moon is completely unimportant to anything one piece related, nothing ever happens in the moon THERE'S NOTHING OR NO ONE IN THE MOON

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NO

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WE ASSUMED CHOPPER IS FORESR GOD..

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it would make sense thematically but why is chopper sending devils

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To chant his name

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who is we

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the meeting that was heavily talked about in fishman island was luffy/shirahoshi right

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is the meeting they keep mentioning for the sea god and sun god...

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also I wonder what the significance of the half vs full moon is

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Let oda cook with the answer first

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It seems like the god powers are to manipulate the environment for their own advantage

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Sun god with transforming everything it touches into rubber

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And the forest god (probably) using the power of nature itself to aura farm ig

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Made a poll in the main Manga chat, would you like to vote in it?

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chopper so innocent

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Shirahoshi by a lot probably

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She’s a gentle soul

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Love how I can’t see this because I still haven’t updated my discord

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Bro

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Forwarding is kind of goated

plucky plover
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Well kids are cruel

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vote imu

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We need to work on your cropping skills

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Little known trivia is that they captured and slaved Enel to power things

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I have made a sequel to my poll.

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💝happy easter! (to those that celebrate it lol) 🐰🐤

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Look at this adorable Bonney and Kuma fanart ❤️ so sweet

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We are not prepared for Sommers to die… SadHoshi

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He was a TRUE hero

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The EVIL Roronoa killed him

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True

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and Killingham

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I cant believe that nasty cook Sanji attacked him for no reason

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criminals

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WANJI

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so glad he put that garbage in his place

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I SPIT on you

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We must BELIEVE IN WOMMERS

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Sommers is safe because Zoro is about to job to Imu, as he's right near him

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nami sakuga next week

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I wanna have some real ass talk in this channel real quick

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Before I die in hopefully many decades from now, there are a couple languages I wanna learn.

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Outside of English and Japanese, I wanna learn:

  • Chinese (Mandarin): at an academically proficient level
  • Korean: conversationally
  • Arabic: conversationally
  • Russian: conversationally
  • French: at an academically proficient level
  • Spanish: somewhat conversationally
  • German/Dutch: conversationally
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first 4 being language learning experiences of doom and despair for someone born speaking english

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So yall really cool with Oda giving up the Ace card?!

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ace card ?

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I definitely want to learn mandarin as well though, probably my next self project in the future

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near future that is

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Imu! He revealed Imu

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I don’t know man

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Spanish is mainly so I can talk to local Spanish people in my area and so that I can listen to Bad Bunny songs and understand their relatively inappropriate meanings.

royal orchid
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too many options on how the next 3-5 chapters can go

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You know

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My favorite song as of late is entirely in Spanish

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It's a song by Feid

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oh thank you privacy badger my goat

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💀 discord browser

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native cloud
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same shit

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Mailbox?? AkainuLULW

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WTF dude

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im planet earth

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That threw me off a little

native cloud
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Ping him

hazy patrol
#

did yall watch the new episode

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?

native cloud
#

Nhaa

hazy patrol
#

it was pretty neat

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pacing was more of the same

royal orchid
vital heart
#

@stone terrace

hazy patrol
#

pretty much one exact chapter adapted

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the visuals were pretty nice tho

royal orchid
native cloud
hazy patrol
#

and finally new sfx

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not all sounds and ost were replaced but im fine with that

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the ones that are still in use never were a problem imo

royal orchid
#

it was the same sfx but the sound design was different

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looks like that's how most sfx are gonna be for seasonal toei piece, the same shit with better directing

hazy patrol
#

mhm

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it sounds much more modern and honestly its refreshing

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i really like how the art looks too

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its much closer to the art style of one piece fan letter which i adore

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theres some scenes which contain too much bloom or whatever effect theyre using

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but thats it

winter oasis
#

the language is not lol

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you would need a year to be meaningfully conversational, and that's assuming you were disciplined

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meek if you want to become a polyglot you should start now and study a set amount every day

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nobody has that much time unless they make it their primary hobby

vital heart
#

I swear it was the other way around

quiet ice
#

You don’t even know and are saying stuff so definitively?

vital heart
#

It's a real life lesson

honest garden
#

Takes one to know one

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(simpsons reference)

hollow dove
#

Not yet being fluent in a language feels like if you're the only one on a long Discord slowmode timer while everyone else isn't and it's new chapter release-time

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That's how I feel living in vietnam lately. To make matters worse practically every word here is one syllable long only, feels like people be talking as rapid-fire as a machine-gun

vital heart
#

You live in Vietnam?

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Holy shit

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How's the pho there

hollow dove
#

Way better than phở in western countries

vital heart
#

pho dac biet is amazing!

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Are you ethnically vietnamense

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Where are you from originally

hollow dove
#

Dang, is this an interview, or an interrogation? I'll take it to DMs if you don't mind lol

vital heart
#

Oh nvm then its ok

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Sorry

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Its ok

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I'm just curious

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I wanna learn more about the personal lives about the people in this server

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Sorry

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Its all good

#

Let's move back to OP discussion

hollow dove
#

No worries josh, let's do that indeed

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Starting with how I figured out Urouge is the man with the burn scar

vital heart
#

100% agreed. Chapter 1179 was a true turning point the series, never again will we refer to Imu as a giant black blob, rather as a primordial demon!

vital heart
#

Why is this kinda genius

vital heart
vital heart
cosmic hamlet
#

What do you?

hollow dove
# vital heart How did u figure that out tho btw

It all just fell into place to me when rereading OP. Only 2 characters so far mentioned Fire Scar, Urouge and Kid. Urouge has mentioned Blackbeard as a "key", and debuted in the manga fighting Killer

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Seems you already found my post in the other channel, so no need to keep explaining the same points lol

#

But for a new point, I've just beeing thinking about how.. whoever Burn Scar is is
a) Obviously a man
b) Has fiery marks outwardly
c) In spite of this, has their face hidden

Urouge is
a) Obviously a man from his stature
b) Has fiery marks on his arms
c) Actually dons a hoodie where he could keep his face hidden

foggy flume
#

OGMMMGGM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IMU TO ANYONE BUT MY FRIENDS DONT WATCH/ READ ONE PIECE THEN I REMEMBERED IM IN A ONE PIECE SERVER 🔥🔥

hollow dove
cosmic hamlet
sudden dock
#

I think Kong is the most forgetable character ever

hollow dove
# cosmic hamlet How do you explain the whirlpools

From what we see in that panel of Urouge fighting Killer, it seems he actually does have a tendency to spin his pillar around in a vortex. We don't yet know the complete limitations of Urouge's fruit, this could help.
But either way, I would assume that a technique like this with his pillar is what's causing the whirlpools. After all, it doesn't seem like long-ranged enough of a technique to create the whirlpools too far. Laffite says they're only created upon ships coming too close.

sudden dock
#

We only saw the guy in marineford and that's it

hollow dove
sudden dock
#

Kong is supposed to be commander in chief for the wg and if you ask me he should've been on egghead.

thick mango
#

It is kinda weird how he never shows up or matters

sudden dock
#

And Kong is supposed the third highest authority in the wg

thick mango
#

If akainu takes orders directly from five elders what does he even do

sudden dock
#

@thick mango exactly why even bring kong into the story

cosmic hamlet
sudden dock
#

Believe me when akainu finds out about Imu, I am sure he'll split the navy from the wg

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Or there will be a civil war

dense haven
#

akainu doesnt have the balls

valid moth
#

A

vital heart
#

B

valid moth
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C

vital heart
#

D

valid moth
#

E

shadow osprey
#

do you think Loki's dragon form color palette is Purple? cause i was rereading Elbaf and saw the color spread of chapter 1128 which resembles Loki's niddhogg form

fossil nimbus
shadow osprey
fossil nimbus
vital heart
#

F

craggy vapor
glass plume
glass plume
quiet ice
#

Was peronas df in god valley

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We saw it somewhere before right

#

Like not from her

winter oasis
#

yes

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some random

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WTF it's the guy from wanted

glass plume
quiet ice
#

Damn I quickly read it again to find it but missed it

winter oasis
#

one small panel in ch 1165

quiet ice
#

Oh yes

vital heart
#

Real talk

#

Why does Imu think that Loki and Luffy combined are stronger than Rocks Roger Garp Whitebeard Kaido and Big Mom?

prisma idol
#

He wants to remove then before they really become even bigger thorns in the side, especially since he now knows their exact location AND has a way to get to then with ease

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Its about the danger they current pose to Imu's rule. Roger and most of those pirates didnt pose a single issue because 1 they didnt have either fruit and 2 didnt know at that point the OP was a thing

glass plume
#

Roger didn't seem intrigued by Imu at all.

#

Like he was just there for the journey, lol.

crisp helm
glass plume
#

I mean yeah, this is probably the first time Imu has come down for eons.

crisp helm
#

he's out there having death battles mfs like garp

#

straight up fodder to Imu

glass plume
#

I wonder how long ago it was when Imu was last on the lower world.

crisp helm
#

800 Imo

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unless there was someone within that time

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that threatening

#

who knows when the last time he posessed someone even was

glass plume
#

800 years since they last touched down on the lower world would be something.

#

They can do pretty much anything through their abyssal projection either way.

crisp helm
#

Imu barely concerns himself with stuff directly

and for him to even act is even more rare

crisp helm
#

and who knows when the last time he's even done that

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either

#

outside of the rocks stuff

glass plume
#

Yeah.

final trench
#

They have the fruits

glass plume
winter oasis
#

we dont gotta post every fanart

ornate tartan
#

what yall think?

celest mauve
celest mauve
#

I can also unfortunately see blackbeard swooping in when imu is weakened like the opportunist he is and being the true final antagonist

buoyant comet
warm sierra
#

I prefer Imu to be final villain but idk how you can say that blackbeard doesnt touch every characters writing

winter oasis
#

why is that a necessary cog

warm sierra
#

Its not even true either

winter oasis
#

why cant he do that?

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my ideal scenario is a 1v1v1

#

blackbeard is being framed as a direct opponent of imu, a conflict seems inevitable

ornate tartan
#

you know the final villian discourse is only going to heat up within the next 5 chapters

celest mauve
#

oda needs to let this man run rampant and bring ruin to elbaf in some way, bare minimum

ornate tartan
#

don’t count on too much ruin

warm sierra
#

If it was any other island its just problematic that elbaf has been built up for so long

celest mauve
grand flower
#

Oh Jesus Christ guys

#

I was accidentally in manga for a bit

grand flower
#

I still think people are overlooking what the structure has implied for Dragon

final trench
#

The insurgent serpent moves soon

cosmic hamlet
#

👀

craggy vapor
royal orchid
#

if we consider the first world to have technology far greater than Egghead ever had, according to VP, then imu had an instagram account

honest garden
#

Yeah but he just used it to watch car crash videos on instagram

craggy vapor
latent hamlet
digital magnet
latent hamlet
#

"VP is looking into the void century"
Imu: .....and I was so happy to get my stuff back

faint narwhal
#

im only on Fishman island

warm sierra
#

Why are you here then

austere flint
glass plume
glass plume
dark nymph
#

no this way I dont have to use twitter keep em coming

latent hamlet
native cloud
# royal orchid

Do you know what will throw me off here, is finding out he’s exactly the same age as luffy

royal orchid
#

so it's the 800 year old one

dense haven
#

yall liked the chapter?

native cloud
#

I know Meeks but you never know with Oda. That mf could double down and say on his next introduction box he lived through time for 800 years

#

Lol

native cloud
#

I mean Katakuri has a better design. Even Doffy

royal orchid
fallen meteor
#

A master at their craft

#

Are we on break i kinda forgot

thin quest
#

yes

royal orchid
#

!break

tropic novaBOT
tender harness
#

I love this

hazy turret
#

Blobmu supremacy

#

I’m not surprised you have terrible taste, music

wet condor
#

I have the best taste

#

I'm always Yoncook ing

hazy turret
#

aren’t you literally a Mihawk fan though

wet condor
#

Imagine preferring the hot dog mu over what we've got

wet condor
#

Insane how wrong you got this

hazy turret
hazy turret
#

BUT I’ll wait until we get something up close and detailed

#

The full body is a couple of scribbles rn

wet condor
rose rune
#

I'm pretty famous for being the biggest mihawk fan here

wet condor
#

But yeah, I didn't like how we did't get a real full body shot

#

One of my complaints

hazy turret
wet condor
#

Like we did but no details and hard to make out

hazy turret
rose rune
wet condor
#

Buffy, you, and I think Thigh, you said something similar as well

hazy turret
royal orchid
#

I don't hate mihawk but I think he's boring

hazy turret
#

I don’t think he’s boring, he’s just super mysterious

royal orchid
#

why would you even consider him when he just wants to run a PMC

hazy turret
#

Which is what I believe the kids call “aura”

fallen meteor
#

As the resident goat of Imu gifs

rose rune
wet condor
hazy turret
#

The Aladdin pants

rose rune
#

I prefer blobmu

hazy turret
#

MC hammer pants

wet condor
rose rune
fallen meteor
#

Enel pants

hazy turret
hazy turret
fallen meteor
hazy turret
#

Is my goat…washed…?

fallen meteor
#

I forgot what Imu's pants look like design wise

sleek viper
wise vector
#

Lego Land is going to be so boring bro they should have cut it

royal orchid
#

toei should just skip to 1179 tbh

wise vector
#

Yes

fallen meteor
#

Toei should skip to eos

wise vector
#

We gonnna get 1179 in 2028

#

Ffs

sleek viper
# royal orchid

Icl a guy like that is gonna crush Luffy and Loki (for now) its so gonna be Saboady 2.0

wise vector
#

I just want Imu's coloring revealed so we know if he's red or a 🥷🏻

cosmic hamlet
#

🕺

royal orchid
#

I like the dark blue fanarts

#

but I doubt it

graceful belfry
#

Red is the one

wise vector
#

Red would be so cliché

#

Like we get it he is a demon

#

Lunarian would deepen the character

graceful belfry
#

There are really no shared characteristics beyond the potential for Imu to have the same skin color

royal orchid
stone terrace
final trench
#

Mihawk by blood
Robin by fruit

grand flower
#

Dracula means son of the dragon

#

“Imu = emu” is hilarious tbh it feels like a stretch but Oda has made those work

blazing mantle
#

Did you guys know that Sora (the hero) isn’t on the popularity poll

iron oriole
inner trail
#

dark blues and greys

blazing mantle
#

I haven’t seen any dark blue or grey fan arts

#

Just black and red

grand flower
#

Satan referred to as the dragon and such

final trench
#

👀

#

Dragon you say

glass plume
thin quest
#

Twinkmu

tough igloo
#

interesting that in Viz , Imu is more like King skin tone compared to TCB version which has Imu darker skin toned

glass plume
#

I still don't think that Imu is a lunarian as they have none of the traits of a lunarian outside of the dark skin and the suspected white hair..

#

They don't have any feathered black wings, nor a flame.

leaden rivet
#

Almost like an angel that’s lost its wings

final trench
#

Enel clipped his wings 👀

leaden rivet
#

Sort of like a devil?

final trench
#

But i think imu is just a devil

glass plume
#

Still wouldn't explain the lack of a flame.

#

The wings can be explained by them being cut, yeah.

tough igloo
#

i’m still 50/50 on it …. i could see both ways .. Imu being part lunarian and that black fire looking ring behind them was lunarian fire before getting corrupted somehow , when Imu first arrived it did look like wings came out their back but i can also see imu being another race

#

i don’t think the horns are natural though

#

i think that’s part of their devil fruit transformation

dense rapids
grand flower
#

Who’s the cow piece fan?

glass plume
blazing mantle
grand flower
ornate tartan
#

bring it on Imu
#FEARLOKI

final trench
blazing mantle
#

The ones that predate the resin fruit theories

final trench
#

It was supposed to be a form of his against kaido?

stone terrace
#

Theres like a billion reasons to compare enel to imu and thats what you went with

cosmic hamlet
#

@sleek plume you lost 2 votes, 3 more left. Tell me whom should i vote 👀

final trench
#

I think tigers represent the D clan tho

stone terrace
#

😭

ornate tartan
#

yoo bro

final trench
#

The D clan is the earth, the CDs are the “heavens”

ornate tartan
#

let’s go luffy and loki

blazing mantle
#

People thought he was gonna make a new gear 4 form

#

And tigers are the natural enemy of dragons

glass plume
#

I am sorry but Luffy and Loki will realize what they're up against.

ornate tartan
glass plume
#

Really?

ornate tartan
#

they will perform MUCH better then people think even if they don’t win

tough igloo
final trench
glass plume
#

Performing well counts as anything that's not instantly dying when you're up against the literal devil, so i suppose.

dense rapids
ornate tartan
#

we know realistically elbaph can’t really end in a big failure

final trench
#

D clan/tiger= those who defy the government

#

The natural enemies

ornate tartan
#

because if it does imu will kill them

grand flower
tough igloo
#

Oda : “Luffy will go wild in this volume “

have some faith in Nika !!!

#

especially in Elbaf of all places

glass plume
#

That was a previous volume though.

grand flower
# final trench

Oh yeah that’s yeah I see what you’re yeah this might just yeah

Vivi….

blazing mantle
tough igloo
#

Luffy didn’t do anything til this volume

ornate tartan
#

luffy is getting a power up in this upcoming fight

final trench
#

I was looking for her symbolism and found that shit 😭 who else but oda

blazing mantle
#

🤫

glass plume
stone terrace
#

Lets just start with luffy being able to use gear 5 for longer than 3 minutes

final trench
ornate tartan
#

Haki bloom

tough igloo
#

Egghead was considered a failure by Luffy because of VP , I don’t see him having that same feeling in 2 arcs back to back

glass plume
#

A haki bloom, hasn't he already had tons of haki blooms.

blazing mantle
glass plume
#

How many haki blooms will bloom?

final trench
#

Alot

#

Haki transcends all right guys?!😀

blazing mantle
#

Funny how the 3 characters that are related to plants haven’t had a haki bloom

blazing mantle
#

I don’t wanna go back

final trench
#

Its always been DFpiece man

blazing mantle
#

Where basically everybody had all 3 types of haki and just spammed it

leaden rivet
blazing mantle
glass plume
#

I do think that there's a giant gap between emperors and Imu.

#

Bigger than that of the pirate king.

final trench
ornate tartan
#

the fanbase will overreact when these 2 things happen

  1. Imu doesn’t kill anyone of major importance other then Jarul
  2. Luffy and Loki actually put up a decent fight
final trench
#

But the government unloaded more Dfs into the public

glass plume
blazing mantle
cosmic hamlet
blazing mantle
#

Most of Rick’s crew was devil fruit users I think

blazing mantle
final trench
tough igloo
#

it’s funny cause last arc people were saying this SAME EXACT THING when the Gorosei all pulled up to Egghead

“ Luffy is cooked ! “
“ this is all 5 elders , straw hats stand no chance ! “
“ it’s no way Luffy wins this one , these are the final saga villains ! “

lmao literally the same exact thing is being repeated

glass plume
final trench
#

They got the fruits that were needed (all except one 😏)

#

So naturally they will put up their fight more than some random haki niggas who werent in their primes

glass plume
#

Luffy had no way of doing damage which actually mattered.

dense rapids
#

Tbh I think Imu will just be sent back

glass plume
#

He could hammer on as much as he wanted to, they'd just get back up.

dense rapids
#

They might destroy the circle

#

Since Nami noticed

tough igloo
urban lodge
#

They were 2 seconds away from dying before the haki knot

tough igloo
#

people were talking like luffy was gonna get cooked immediately by the elders

glass plume
final trench
#

Yea luffy didnt “lose” but he wouldnt win if he kept fighting

glass plume
#

If anything the gorosei were stalling the straw hats.

high wolf
final trench
#

Especially with all 5 there

urban lodge
final trench
tough igloo
glass plume
blazing mantle
#

What would a garp backstory even be about

urban lodge
#

People were so mad about that

final trench
#

The monkey clan is fireproofBBWise BBWise

tough igloo
#

now straw hats have way stronger allies in elbaf than they did in egghead

urban lodge
#

It was so funny

blazing mantle
stone terrace
#

Runbeard

blazing mantle
#

Exactly

stone terrace
glass plume
leaden rivet
#

Gorosei really just weren’t dominating. Sure they were going to win Regen merchants and all but it wasn’t what people thought it was

blazing mantle
#

Too bad we moved on past it

forest jacinth
blazing mantle
#

Nobody likes to slander Whitebeard

leaden rivet
#

Saturn in fact was getting dominated

#

He got dominated 99% of the arc and then failed to kill the weak strawhats running away

#

It’s a good thing he died

glass plume
#

No one cares about Saturn.

latent hamlet
#

Saturn got hit with the performance check and was found....lacking

glass plume
#

The other gorosei performed well.

tough igloo
# glass plume While actively running from them.

the point is none of them were defeated by any elders like yall were saying they would and especially not Luffy who was just toying with all of them except for Warcury …

now yall doing the same thing this arc with Imu lol

leaden rivet
#

Well

wraith mantle
#

elbaf's emet

leaden rivet
#

What did Mars do again….uh he destroyed some connectors and uh….

glass plume
dense rapids
#

What if Thriller Bark is the Nerona’s previous home

blazing mantle
#

👍

mighty roost
#

what if

blazing mantle
#

If what

blazing mantle
#

Shut that down real quick bro

glass plume
mighty roost
#

i forgot

blazing mantle
leaden rivet
glass plume
#

that's the one part of the design i dislike.

urban lodge
#

I love it

blazing mantle
#

😴

urban lodge
blazing mantle
karmic island
blazing mantle
mighty roost
blazing mantle
#

But warcury might be the strongest who knows