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Loki hybrid form Jesus u got high expectations?
I mean hybrid form is likely this fight
Tbh I’m not even saying Blackbeard will be final villain
cmon Caleb
I hope we see it soon
I’m just saying Bb will absorb Imu
He needs something to bait a break
What i was looking for thanks chrissy
The final villain will be the first 
Apparently that would be “ass”
boring
path of the story have been laid fairly clear for a long time. 2 main pirates going after OP (Luffy and BB). winner goes after their true goal which involves rest of the world so thats Imu since he is the king of it.
It’s true though. I’m not saying as hate. It’s just true
That was Alvida or the snake or Buggy
even though it’s been implied time & time again in the story that BB will be a foil to Imu
I’m using my nooticing skills
and i'm saying that would be silly and anticlimactic. let Blackbeard be his own character instead of a replacement for Imu without all the things that make Imu interesting (800 years of lore and connections to the void century)
captain morgan will be the final villain
Imu and Blackbeard are not foils
Absorbing Imu doesn’t suddenly make him Imu
Blackbeard is his own character
Imu is a stepping stone to get revenge for rocks and Davy
Wait I wanted to say Morgan not Buggy idk why I skipped him
Imu is not a stepping stone but an actual character
Imu isn't a stepping stone he's the reason why the One Piece world even exists as it does
How often is the final villain of a series even the best ask yourself that one 💀
Imu being a stepping stone is a first lmao
Can we just accept them all as characters
Imu is fated to lose to davy jones and joyboy
cant Imu be his own character too?
Idk how this is radical to say
Imu knows he’s getting cooked by both JoyBoy and Davy Jones
Its such an unnecessary thing to go crazy over
nuh uh i have to root for my favourite team
Especially when there’s a promise to be fulfilled of Davy Jones
yeah like
sure but that could still happen after Blackbeard has had his own arc as the main villain
Some characters are more equal than others
the thing that’s interesting about blackbeard is how can he become an enemy to the entire world in the same way Imu is
If Oda goes this route he’ll have to make this work
Tell Imu to stop thinking about BB and Davy?
what thing
Teach isn't gonna sing koombaya and join hands with luffy
😭
AND THAT WAS THIS WEEK’S CHAPTER TOO 😭
Yall acting like we’re forcing the Imu and Teech connection 😭
that can still happen because Luffy don't need to kill BB and he can still crawl back to final war for a team up. thats also been hinted right? imus 2 biggest fear teaming up
Who the final villain is
Genuinely can we just rest our arms and accept both characters and lead a healthy discussion about how the finale could actually play out
We were saying Imu and Teech were connected BEFORE GOD VALLEY
He can’t become as bad as imu if that’s what you mean. Hes already a global threat and acknowledged as such
ah yeah I agree
Rather than just leading gang wars
GOD VALLEY ONLY PROVED IT
socrates unbanned over this bb slobber anyday
Idk about allat.
please
im not saying they'd be friends i'm saying that if Teach wants Imu dead and Luffy wants to stop Imu from destroying the entire world via flood at any cost, they would have 0 choice but to team up. they don't have to like each other to recognize a common enemy
Nah Socrates was atrocious
Saying that is crazy work
this really doesn’t mean Imu can’t be his own character man cmon lol
Blackbeard stated he wants to be Pirate King
Blackbeard is collecting Poneglyphs
Only one character in the series will end up claiming the one piece
the question is does that come soon or at the end of the series
yes please
They are their own characters
They’re just connected with each other deeply
LMFAO

how do you see the future main events play out. i'm curious
“Loki king of the world”
Yeah thats true I think we all can accept that
People don’t they think we’re forcing the connections
“we can assume Loki wanted to be King of the World”😂
We’re not the ones ripping Bb bounty poster
The only people who are straight up in hell rn are dragon fans
Imu doesnt even have him on his radar
😭
Yeah thats wild
Imu is a stepping stone for Loki
Literally whitebeard a dead yonko
then you agree, Imu can be his own character
can we also agree that both Imu and Blackbeard are extremely important, and neither is a "stepping stone" for the other
Loki absorbs Imu and becomes the real final villain
ネロナ・イム聖 [世界の王]
︀︀Saint Nerona Imu [King of the World]
︀︀Character FanDesign Sheet by Chancil
︀︀
︀︀Bye Bye Baddie Imu #ONEPIECE #onepiece1179 #onepiece1180 #neronaimu #imu
**👁️ 29 **
the role of nidhogg in the past and his relevance to imu in particular i hope we find out within the next 5 chapters
Even when its known dragon saved luffy in logue town
Dragon isn’t an incarnation of an ancient enemy so that’s his bad
Trickster God after all
imu was suprised to find nidhogg in elbaph
thats because the seige hasn't effected imus secret food storage. rest of maryjoes cuss Dragon every day when they wake up and have to eat anything but lobster
Skill issue
ngl he still a baddie
he got banned? 
months ago
its been ages
Oda don’t make his spots yellow please

imu doesn't need to eat so dragon can't hurt him
tbh Oda is obviously saving Dragon for a reason
Imu has a sick design
what was nidhogg role in the past? why was he clashing with the sun god? god of war was a DF user i think so how ancient is nidhogg, and how old is Imu
How funny.
Damn. I haven't been active here in a while. 
Imu turns all the celestial dragons into demons
"They complain about food? Then they become demons and never have to worry about such a thing again"

is Imu from the first or 2nd world lol
Probably the first.
second i'd imagine, since he seems to have ptsd over Joyboy specifically
I think the second
Its just 2nd
Hes one of the 20 so that makes me think 2nd
Which is void century
yea
Sounds like imu was from the first
If BB is the final villain, I'm OK with that.
If Imu is the final villain, I'm OK with that.
If neither is the final villain, I'm OK with that.
However, I think it's leaning towards BB at the moment.
Once imu realizes he no longer needs to hide
He'll just demonize everything and thats the final war
He has powers from the 1st world but was born in 2nd probably
feed them Roswald family
Charlos alone is fat enough to get them well fed for a week
https://x.com/leoberghellaart/status/2040902700523454685/photo/1
Woah, this looks kinda sick.
so what is imu relationship with nidhogg then? was nidhogg involved in the 2nd world, I thought ragnir waited until Loki
Wise man stay on this side and let's enjoy another teach play
The Creator is a tough name
- World: Nika, the devil
- World: Joyboy, Imu
i love your attitude and same. i strongly believe it's Imu but i'd be fine with it being BB or even another character as long as it's written well and makes sense in the story
I’m fine with whichever as well. Just crazy how Imu bandwagoners just attack the idea of Teach reclaiming the throne.
final villain discussions get heavy
Imu knowing about Nidhoggr implies that they were alive back when the god of war was still around, which we assume is the age of the first world with Nika.
Be ready to die
feels like gangs over here LOL
I never noticed the Hot Topic bracelet.
Looks dope.
This shit is serious
Wakainu final villain


Katakuri and him shop at the same places
said no one ever
He took them from Kaido.
@upper rose let him know
My phone died so I lost all my Buggy saying he will be king of the world panel collection
I gave up years ago
TRUE
I'm gonna have to collect them again
Well Coby did say Luffys dream has to end...
possibly a bandwagon effect, the internet can do that. I know for the longest time, this server has felt BB centric in terms of final villainy. But Imu's reveal is interesting and could change minds.
I wonder if we still get princess shuri short flashback
valid
Short? If Oda is a shit writer
i just feel like a lot of BB fans just want Imu removed from the story so that the story focuses on what they want instead. i never really see people who expect Imu to be the final villain trying to remove Blackbeard from the story
Imu bandwagoners lol
Blackbeard to Luffy: zehahaha keep on dreaming lad
Coby to Luffy: I have to stop your dream, Luffy!
Whos the REAL final villain here
this server is 50/50 on who the final villain is ngl
at least the regulars from here
And it can change. I was once Imu, now I'm BB.
the series will end with koby and tashigi defeating luffy and zoro’s dreams
cook
cook
I’m not sure where a gunko flashback fits but I’m sure we will get it. Actually I have an idea
But it always felt like a BB focus moreso than an Imu one on this server until this chapter.
initially i thought it would be more in depth but it seems like gunko is kinda safe for now, just frozen, and brook is alright i guess other then the broken bones
and i had no idea imu was gonna come to elbaph personally
I've never been interested in Blackbeard, I'll be honest about that.
His character just doesn't interest me.
i thought brook would save gunko with his music
true
Ppl just say anything man
Imu will powerup gunko sommers and Killingham. Brook fights gunko and we get a flashback
i feel like the discussions weren't nearly as volatile before this chapter 😭
he’s goated
Do you like evil manchild incels better 
I think a number of us did. I know I did. Kind of would've still preferred it.
I'm glad you feel that way, I don't.
he’s so interesting to follow
Pregbeard is peak
Someone was arguing that the holy knights look shit so bb should be the final villain as if bb isnt rocking a roster with jesus burgess and sanjuan wolf
BB barely shows up anyways lol
He’s evil not an incel. Get it right
😭
So less evil
Yes
they always were
Of course not. Guess that's just the nature of a reveal this big. G5 arguments were huge during the time of its reveal.
this is what koby stans ask santa for every christmas
He’s trying to kidnap an descendant of the girl he could never have he’s sooooo lame
I mean if you're refering to Imu here, then 100% everyday of the week.
People shift whenever one of the two characters do something
LOL that’s true
I do think this is an issue. I guess that's what happens naturally in a series this big with so many other villains.
Definitely a bandwagon effect. And if Imu is the final villain. I wouldn’t mind at all. I ain’t gon reach the same like those who got all offended of Teach possibly being a final villain. Both got good cases. Just wish this server was less tribalistic about who it is, like gah damn lmao
Mihawk vs Shanks discussions after shanks one shot Kid was crazy
Vivi is just the rain god and imu wants her powers to become the avatar and truly win the war
This is the Imu showoff arc
Next we have BB showoff
And in the end both
Ye its like
"He's final villain against luffy"
Meanwhile he and luffy havent met in post time skip yet
i've always been super interested in Blackbeard, i just never saw him as the final villain. the World Government was established as the overarching antagonist of the One Piece world very early on imo. Teach is a great rival/parallel antagonist to Luffy but he isn't responsible for the main conflicts in the story
Hell final villain could be Garling at this point if people's theories about him trying to power grab are correct. even that could be fun.
Imu has 800 years worth or lore, possibly more.
The whole story's narrative and intrigue is centered around the oppression which is caused by Imu.
Imu is the reason for so much, compared to Blackbeard who is really just carrying the Davy clan and Xebec's revenge story.

clears shiryu
Yeah, I feel like we're gonna come full circle with Skypeia
I do think the final villain should be one of bb imu or buggy
Imu is the reason for a lot of trouble that’s in the world, Blackbeard is the reason for a lot of trouble that’s happened to Luffy
I’ve only ever been mildly interested in Blackbeard. I like him but I’m not infatuated with him. I’ll enjoy his presence when he’s on screen but when he’s not here I don’t think of him much
oda need to restore balance to this. only way is having Mihawk 1 shot law
But bb fans need to be humbled
Lol imagine the reaction of the people who think Imu was introduced too late
BB's biggest plot contribution was the capture of Ace
As of now, he hasnt done anything remotely close
cook, Enel and Imu- God like figures
If it wasn't for Imu, would Blackbeard even be the one who he is?
It's gonna be Buggy unironically
It’s so funny how buggy has a higher chance of being the final villain than akainu
Luffy & Blackbeard are both carrying 800 years of history & inherited will.
Imu literally made the world government that executed ace lol
I agree Imu is narratively important and the ancient kingdom backstory will reveal a lot, possibly changing many minds. But I'm also of the mindset, BB undoes all of it
Yeah and Imu has lived through it, which I think is far more interesting.
that’s actually a good way to put it
Imu didn’t have the world government execute Ace so it makes no matter
it would be quite funny
ehhh Blackbeard's only really responsible for orchestrating the Marineford war and arguably the death of Ace, which could be ultimately attributed to Imu as well since it's his World Government that persecuted Ace to begin with
Imu: blah blah blah king blah blah blah wg blah blah blah joyboy
Bb: shut up. Dark Blast!

It’s interesting either way? Imu not being a final villain isn’t gonna take all that away lmao
then they kiss
true, but I don't think people feel as attached to that emotionally as they do with BB's involvement with Ace.
This isn't about who is the final villain, this is about who i think is personally the most interesting one out of the two.
Blackbeard sold Ace out, kidnapped him and practically got him killed. He’s also responsible for the kidnapping of Koby. The kidnapping of Garp. He attacked Luffy’s friends at Amazon Lily. And it’s likely he will attack fishman island for Poseidon.
Also just also maybe he’ll kill Shanks if we’re lucky
Imu is literally pissed at roger starting the great pirate age this chapter and wants to wipe out bloodlines/races but Im supposed to believe he didnt care about ace
BB kills Shanks in order to redeem Fisher's legacy
Really all void century characters are interesting. I wanna see the flashback to Davy Jones & Joyboy as well
he should have
I mena yeah of course.
Shanks isn’t either! So we’re all good
story isn't about ace though. everyone is about to go underwater. thats the big picture problem
Maybe he did? Oda didn't show it though. Hard to care when I can't see it.
Shanks is killing Blackbeard trust me
how would you know
#shankspiece
Imu wouldnt have known of his existence until sengoku said it
And by that point he was a man waiting to die
Because he’s not Luffy
Imu will be more emotionally relevant when we explore their character. For now, they've just been a blob with a nuke button and an unhealthy obsession with Luffy, BB, and Lili, etc.
Imu is the head of the WG. Luffy ain’t to worried about em. Blackbeard is his main rival to the op, that’s who Luffy really worried about
Oh look it’s another one of shanks sons
Imu doesn't seem to care too much about Roger in general, at least that's what I've gotten.
Sure they care that they started the pirate age but other than that it doesn't feel like Imu had anything personal against Roger, like they do against Joyboy or Davy Jones for example.
At first I thought that Roger would've been Imu's main source of hate, given he became the pirate king and all that.
Can’t call Imu a silhouette anymore 
lmao unhealthy obsession
yea it will become personal after he wipes luffy and the crew.
We'll revisit this in 5

also there are just a lot of logistical issues with Blackbeard suddenly usurping Imu as the new king of the world. the entire world government has been organized and structured under Imu for centuries. i don't think they'd just turn into generic Blackbeard minions just because Blackbeard sits on the throne. and even beyond that, there's the question of what Blackbeard would do after he became king of the world. we know that Imu wants to flood the entire planet, which gives real stakes to him as a main villain. what kind of stakes would Blackbeard bring to the story as king of the world?
Lili has to be unhealthy right? 800 years?
Luffy isn’t worried about Blackbeard either. Barely thinks about him
He won’t matter until he sees the ugly bastard in person
Or hears some news
for sure lol staring at the picture 800 years later is wild
Yeah when he hears who got his grandpappy in chains
i think if he does we will feel it more. but the ancient kingdom flashback will cement it
It’s reasonable. She ruined his total world domination plans by releasing the ponegliffs
Luffy should be worried since the World Government being run by Imu and the gorosei right now is what has caused people to be oppressed and feel like they're not free and can't do what they want, which is something which matters most to Luffy. And ultimately if he doesn't take care of Imu and the World Government they'll limit his freedom too, Blackbeard on the other hand is a rival for the One Piece, Blackbeard's ideology doesn't clash with Luffy in the same manner. Blackbeard wants freedom just as much as Luffy does, they're just going at it different ways.
It would probably just be in the last couple chapters when all the other villains are beat
Lili needs to die a 2nd death!!
He might want to just torture Vivi for all I know
take out his Lili anger on her descendant twin
Luffy isn’t thinking that deep
so Blackbeard would be a post-climax antagonist? tbh that could work. idk if i'm leaning in that direction yet
or when he hears Teach fucked with his friends Law Boa Koby since Wano lol
Turn everyone into demons
I don’t not see a post climax fight happening to be honest
Damn Blackbeard has been hitting everyone related to Luffy lmao
I think Oda would put everything into the climax like he has ever arc
some have thought of him being the laughtale antagonist or the final war antagonist. haven't heard of the post-climax antagonist though.
Blackbeard Pirates also destroyed the original Revs HQ too
It’s honestly hard to care about a post climax fight
i'd imagine that's easier said than done. otherwise Imu would've done it 800 years ago
Only one he’s missing is shanks current story. Maybe he’ll slide on Laboon later.
debatable, but even if it wasn't One Piece is still a story with a plot, and the WG has been positioned as the overarching antagonist of that story for a long long time
I think I agree with this. Probably the only one I can see really working is Zoro and MIhawk
I think Zoro vsmihawk happens before Luffy becomes pirate king
possibly.
Pirates have always been THE antagonist of OP, not the WG
Lets see koby get it back in blood
If that fight happened after the serie climax it’d be like a chapter max
Sure, teach is a big dreamer. Imu also may just not want to
all the secrets that gets revealed in LT would have Imu in its center. no chance op ends at LT itself and thats where BB final villain theory falls short. only solution for it is BB absorbing Imu/DF and having a rematch. that feels too lame imo
i'm thinking Laugh Tale and mayyyyybe post-climax as well. i do think that Blackbeard will have a really important role in the final war, just not as the main villain
Which isn’t happening for a Zoro fight
zoro and mihawk i have a very hard time pinning down. my best guess is the road to laughtale since cross guild is heading that way
It has to, since Zoro promised that only the world's strongest swordsman is worthy to sail with the pirate king.
So do we think Imu has the can’t swim weakness
Or will he be the first to surprise us
i'm thinking hes the one who imposes it on all other devil fruit users
Blackbeard is eventually sitting on the throne, I’m sure of it
Or did the Mother Nature curse DFs specifically because of Imu
Agree
Idk how long he’ll be there
Too fat
There’s something about him going to the lower world that the Elders feared. So I’m not sure
I mean the gorosei weren't afraid of going in the water while following Luffy in Egghead.
I'm thinking so too, but it's a very short reign.
That ain’t confirmed
I don’t think anyone is there now except maybe Lafitte
gonna be lovely 🍿
So this is the reason you really hate Blackbeard
what would Blackbeard's tax policy be? 
Everything
Blackbeard is already using slaves at Hachinosu
He can just let someone who knows how to do that handle it for him
It’s not like Imu is actively ruling much, the Gorosei handle most the affairs from what we see
So y'all just want Blackbeard to take over, and become what Imu was?
Just rehash the ruler we've had for 800 years but now it's a new guy.
Nah Blackbeard obviously has his own plans
It’s not what we want. It’s just following the story
Lol.
Me personally I hope somehow Imu and Blackbeard make a deal and it goes from there
But i dont see them getting fooled twice
He has to force their hand if BB Kingdom is to be a thing
Seems implied with the naming convention of his contracts and him being able to grant powers.
Yes
that's what i mean about Blackbeard fans just wanting Blackbeard to become a less interesting version of Imu 😭 as a Blackbeard fan i would never want his character to be boiled down to "Imu but a new guy"
Because of his SIZE
I just simply interpret it as him being the devil
why do people want this boring thing to happen
i can see him falling just short of both. reaching LT and the throne. his dad didn't come even close to either but he will be within touching distance
Yeah, I don't know honestly what Blackbeard would do differently.
I mean his contract names are literally different depths of water. Shallow, deep sea, deep deep sea
Again, not what we want. It’s just obvious at this point
Probably just comes down to execution by Oda.
The reason why people want Blackbeard to defeat Imu is just because the Davy clan sob story.
But I mean, Luffy could avenge the Davy clan and Joyboy.
“Obvious” we can see the future
What
We’ve been saying that years before Davy anything 😂
What if Imu has a sob story?
They would’ve stated Sea Devil then if that was the case.
I mean Blackbeard taking the powers would just be for strength reasons
Yep
It’s goda writing
It'll probably be leagues better than the Davy clan one.
You can see the future genius?
Idk if Imu is the sea devil or made a contract with the sea devil but either way the sea devil is a real entity that exists
Idk why people suppose it means he’ll turn exactly into Imu lol
I don't think we know enough about the Davy clan yet
no i think Blackbeard will 100% be instrumental in Imu's defeat. just not by replacing him or doing it offscreen without Luffy's involvement or anything like that
we need ancient kindom flashback for that
Well maybe absorbing the power of evil will make you eviler?
Do you know what an implication is
But if theres some Imu still left in Blackbeard that would satisfy them too
Sea devil or something adajcent whatever it is
Fighting the same powers twice back to back would suck major ass
Dudes gonna have so many different names and titles
It just feels like Blackbeard fans are desperate, to make it so Blackbeard is more important than he already is.
It's like Rivermore says, it's obvious that Blackbeard will already be integral to Imu's defeat along with Luffy.
Why do people want that
Blackbeard takes Imu’s powers but then Imu possesses Blackbeard
Oda isn’t gonna do that. He’s far too creative for that
facts all we know is Imu got PTSD with them cause of Davy Jones and js terrified of the Davy promise being fulfilled
this is mainly why I’m against BB stealing Imu’s powers lol
I mean what if its the other way, Imu wants to possess Blackbeards crazy body
Implication means a possible meaning, result, or consequence that is suggested but not directly stated.
Simple breakdown:
• It’s what something implies rather than says outright.
• It can also mean a logical relationship (especially in math/logic).
literally my only reason
Blackbeard absorbs Luffy and kills imu
This probably wouldnt have to happen
The davy lore ruined BB
Would Nika awaken for Blackbeard
BB has like two other DFs as well. Imu ain’t got no ability to take away devil fruit abilities otherwise he could’ve easily done it to Loki & Luffy
How so
True
Definitely not.
what is he liberating lol
Yes. He’s jolly and whimsical
wdym
The Davy lore makes me care about him a lot less
"Luffy isnt nika" type vibe
Meanwhile BB
"HE'S GONNA BE THE NEXT DAVY JONES"
Reality: both dont give a shit
The world from Imu

Luffy will be the one doing that though.
It probably wouldnt just be Luffy vs Imu, Blackbeard takes Imu, Luffy vs Blackbeard
This conversation feels like the whole “Kidd & Law are dead” argument. Which they obviously are not
How does this ruin Blackbeard though
Imu calls them both Joyboy & Davy Jones though lol regardless if Luffy denies it
that sucks tho, I want to see Luffy vs Imu
A flaw of Imu is that he’s stuck in the past
Yeah Im saying it wouldnt be that
That's just undermining one character to make the other one more powerful.
I find the “destined to face off against each other” kinda cringe. But most of all I liked the outlier that Blackbeard represented,
I’m confused
Blackbeard shouldn't steal shit, if you ask me.
wouldn’t call it stuck in the past if the things in the past are what’s causing everything now
Wonder if Luffy will ever meet nika in his mind
I agree. I’m not too big on the whole predetermined fate stuff
Actually maybe thats why Imu is in Elbaf
Blackbeard should if anything, when Imu is defeated be king of the world with the power he has.
And then Luffy takes him down.
Him being a weird kid that rose to power from lying and betraying others is more interesting than him being a descendant of the real kings of the world and all the other bullshit
Idk. For me, I just feel like Luffy is still his own person & not a copy of Joyboy
Also I hate that he’s biologically related to rocks and it’s not an inherited will
Would it be crazy to think that Loki is who BB was planned to be, but Oda wants every important character to be blood related?
But whatever
He may be similar but at the end of the day. That’s still a different person
Taking down the king of the world. Part 2
So Luffy vs Imu happens here
Inherited (from your parents) will
Even you see how stupid it sounds.
i don’t think imu calling luffy by joyboy means imu believes he’s a copy , i think it’s moreso just that they represent the same thing and have the same will (which we know is true )
I mean he still lied cheat and stole his way to the top. I think it can play into his ideas of fate and destiny as well and make his character more interesting
Ahh. I see.
The concept of fate and destiny as a whole is very cheap to me
“Even you” ??
Oda is finally cooking. You are destined by blood
It feels like it lessens a journey when something is fated to happen
I didn't mean it like that.
do u see luffy winning here?
I really hate how much Oda leans into that with BB
I guess that’s just a you thing then
Not really
The main character being Luffy
No I agree with illyasae
Fair enough opinion to have
Yeah I didn’t say it was bad writing just that I don’t like it
When will we learn about Blackbeards special body anyways.
im not super into fate and destiny either but it was established super early on, for better or worse

yeah after G5 i just stopped caring about it cause i used to complain about it too but i think Oda is making it clear that your lineage matters a lot in one piece
I've seen the same concept being executed well but Oda doesn't know what he's doing
How can we say it’s bad when it’s not fully executed yet
We haven’t even begun to see the depth of this thin and Blackbeard
so there should be a 2nd fight right? surely BB won't finish off imu and just take over as final villain.
an evil chosen one concept? i can think of a character in the Dagger and the Coin books but idk if he was handled better
but i don’t know anywhere near enough davy clan lore to say it’s bad or good yet
i just know oda cooked with rocks and teach characters
Eris too
We barely saw Eris.
destiny has been a big part of one piece since its beginning. It’s just more explicit now that we are dealing with lore stuff
what we saw , he cooked
I’ll wait to decide what I think on Blackbeard
I can’t explain why I like it now. Maybe later but I have to do something
Yall take care and make sure to pray to imu
The whole intrigue surrounding Joyboy and Imu has always been super interesting, when we first heard of it.
And then they kinda just added Davy Jones, lol.
This won’t hold over well on judgement day

Imu had centuries to prepare for rebellions and is folding
Maybe if that hypocritical aspect of him being so centred around dreams while having his "dream" imposed upon him is an intentional aspect of his writing it could be interesting but somehow I doubt it
Whose next, will Ryuma be added as the third?
tbf when imu is first introduced .. they were looking at both luffy & teach so that davy jones aspect was always there ever since imu introduction
What the fuck do you mean, they've been a steady ruler for 800 years.
Venmo me
yup there was no rebellion for 800 years
True. It started off with him ripping the posters right?
ngl i've been wondering about whether Davy Jones would become important ever since watching the davy backfight arc so im glad that he is important after all
Fate is working actively against Imu right now, lol
yep and we see imu holding both their bounty posters when going to look at the giant straw hat
it was always both when imu was introduced
Imu is the oppressed one now? 😂
They are right Imu is folding partly because he put no effort into capturing Luffy who he knew had Nika when he was way weaker and way younger and just let him become strong enough to oppose him
I mean, everything has been lined up in the good sides favor.
So if you want to call that oppressed, go ahead.
Can I post art here off twitter
but we always knew there would be a void century parallel for Teach we just didn’t know who
I wonder why.
Maybe plot armor.
Everything has plot armor
would anyone happen to know what font they use for the English manga translations for OP
Unfortunately.
But there’s no good explanation in story why he’s so dumb
Otherwise the villains would probably always win.
That’s moreso to the character writing
The real reason is probably Imu and Nika didn’t exist yet
I GOT CHAPTER 1180 LEAKS
is what WorstGenHQ would say if it were still april fools
Everything would make sense if we find out Imu couldn’t act willingly
Without sacrifice
you think Oda hadn't figured out the story of the Void Century before introducing the concept in the manga?
I mean, they've been having people underneath them who have tried to sort it out and failed.
Thanks to plot armor again, lol.
And now it seems like Imu is more vulnerable when going down themselves, which sort of explains why they've not done stuff before.
Cuz if Imu was just free all this time…just send a Gorosei or Holy Knight, possess and then kill Luffy
They could've sent Akainu to Egghead and the results would probably be more or less the same.
sacrifice being odas bank account if imu had gone and killed luffy when he first found out he had the nika df
Yep
What a story we'd have if that happened.
Imu having global range abilities is a HUGE problem for the story back then
What do you not like just say it
Because they can just take over any vessel from across the planet
Imu should kill every pirate as soon as their bounty poster is out there.
Imu never actually ever sends anyone after Luffy for Nika. He just doesn’t do anything about it
Thats my issue
"Imu sir, this pirate named... Blue D. Ballsack is causing a ruckuss..!"
Good side favor? Eh I wouldn’t call it exactly Rocks & BB good guys
"Mu will deal with it."
The reason it works with Luffy is because we see every part of his journey, his successes and his failures. We see him struggle and lose and basically "force" fate, or like Ivankov said in Impel Down, miracles, to happen, while with Teach we pretty much just see him making really shitty decisions and always being rewarded and coming out on top and it just feels cheap
They are if we are comparing them to Imu.
since he's probably weaker in the lower world Oda has an excuse for him to lose and still be a threat later
Imu is also the same guy that let the number 2 of the revolutionary army escape with the world governments biggest secret
True
Oh yeah and Wapol too
Thats why he will lose in the end
Plus Oda has another time limit mechanism in the final boss. So its more like “just survive and last as long as possible”
yeah, but that's honestly the gorosei's fault. they should have just used the guns
Is this shamrock snitching on Loki?
They literally had to get out their own throne to settle a conflict lmao. Imagine ruling the world for centuries, steadily building a fleet of powerful beings, and you don’t even have control of all the ancient weapons. You don’t have the ONE fruit that can destroy your control locked up inside the depths of your castle. You have immortal beings sitting around do nothing, but when things gets bad, they get walked on. Rocks and Luffy have embarrassed the world government.
Any immortal being would have back up plans behind back up plans. We have seen that any time someone powerful rebels, the world government falls over, and Imu has to be the one to stop it.
Why Shamrock
Oh
You mean in Reverie?
Yeah
Nah they both bad
You make it sound a lot more easy than it is.
Oda always has a time limit mechanism : <
Unsure. Probably some cp agent.
Was there one in egghead? Or just emeth
Buggy is another example of fate being done right because he's fucking miserable and hates it
get out before the island blows I guess
It sounds like something thats still happening tho like Loki is still sailing around
yeah fair lol i suppose
Probably.
GUYS I WANNA START SAYING “i suppose” instead of “i guess” or “i think”.
Id sound so much smarter i suppose
Not here
“Usopp gonna rewind time and relive the day of Elbaph saving everyone. The first person he wakes up is Nami”
wano had onigashima. wholecake had shrink mom. dressrosa had the bird cage, PH had the gas, fishman had the noah... etc.
Wano had the flame yokai and the clouds. Wdym?
I was thinking Kaido moving onigashima to crush the city
but yeah, flame thingy too
It's so apparent that this is mirroring ragnarok.
Loki's release was the trigger of it.
Now they're caught in it.
can’t blame them bro what else they gonna theorize about😂
I dunno guys. I don't think Oda uses norse mythology
now it’s back to nerona nami
Definitely some of it.
just a coincidence I'm sure
Its crazy how every Elbaf theory ends with "and this will start Ragnarok" as if we didnt know wed get a final war in the end but now its norse
I don't think it is, after all Oda's favorite show was about vikings.
he probably thought they were pirates
Luffy has Dragon as his father and Garp as his grandpa. He survives molten hot gold around his arm, stabbed straight through the chest, etc. His fruit came to him via Shanks. He and BB are quite literally as equally lucky. You can argue even that BB has to earn his wins more since he had to go out his way for his fruit, father was killed, and at the same time this is when Luffy is born in your era. Bb’s fate was meeting whitebeard and having Rocks lineage yes. It isn’t cheap though
I mean technically...
I'll stop now
Aren't pirates just sea bandits.
Pirates are scum who should be wiped out. 
This just Final Destination 
that can't be true, because the straw hats are land bandits. they rarely fight at sea
The entire arc was a hallucination by Usopp from the start
Immortal beings in power have everything easy
Even he thinks him getting his fruit was fate though, as long as it took, he thinks the fruit was testing him because it's an evil fruit
If only.
wat
Ussop will still get his moment right right...
Yeah we should get more naval combat in One Piece.
arc>moment
Usopp will become elbaf
Elsopp
Yeah it can be chalked up to fate, but he had to take the initiative for it.
It's kinda strange in retrospect that Blackbeard thinks the fruit chose him, as he literally needed to kill his "friend" for it.
I think it could go either way
its also not a zoan so it didnt choose nothing
I think he sees it as right place right time
just a simplified way of saying he'll become fertilizer for the tree
The thing is as far as we know only zoans have wills
But it's not impossible or even unlikely at this point that the yami is a secret zoan so who knows
heyo
Kelly Funk only wanted to hug and embrace his brother, so the jacket fruit came to him
So wholesome
Feels like the mechanical heart is exclusive to Sommers.
I really hope Oda doesn’t nepo-fy Akainu
He will just pick, Joyboy, Davey or CD
Sakazuki should go rogue already.
I don't want to see him in that office ever again.
We got Fuji for that
I saw a good theory where Gunko has a mechanical jaw, Killingham mechanical legs
I suspect that he is
oda needs to remember akainu exists first
Oooo that’s interesting
Could be...
I wonder what Shamrock gave up
Mechanical panties
Hold up, this writing ass!?
Not me bro
Junicho fumi said this
At shounen 11 years ago
Akainu will die saving Luffy just like Ace
It kinda looks like wires coming out
To atone for his mistake
Robbo Knights?
Makes sense
Akainu doesn’t see it as a mistake
I wonder if Sanji & Zoro still fight Sommers & Killingham or if they focus on Imu
In no way in hell Luffy teams up with either Sakazuki or Teach
Yeah no way
Not yet

Those two have caused harm to Luffy’s family
can’t wait to see shanks get dedicated focus for 2 chapters in a row
he gets a couple panels then dips
but that just means one piece is ending😔
He got his panels from the Harald flashback
Them vs Harald will be at least 2 episodes
He’s over
Interesting idea tbh
that’s a flashback💀
I cannot wait for him to die
i’m talking about present time
Oh
he hasn’t gotten any screentime
Next arc
If he dies his the hero, or he may be final boss
Wait for Luffy to beat imu
Then beat luffy
He blew up 2 crews
in 3 panels
Shanks is a interesting one
When one piece ends shonen jumps is gone
“We need the one piece” for 2 chapters
they are finished😭😭
There can never be another long running series like OP
Like i cant think of any current running shonen thats not one piece and dandadan
Kagurabachi
Ippo is longer
I swear if they don’t make a great one piece game before the manga ends…
Dragon ball fans have an amazing fighting game and other good ones. I hate whoever is in charge of OP ip.
i dropped it after the first chap did it get good?
People say it did
They don't care, people play shit like Bounty Rush
don't worry, they'll get another series about a kid fighting yokai/oni/ghosts/specters that people will praise to no end
A Dokkan battle version of one piece is the only way
Bandai doesn’t put any effort into their games of popular Ip
Isn’t bounty rush like 5 years old?
No idea, I just know it's shit and a cash grab.
There is a better gacha exclusive to China
But we ain’t getting that localized
Anything will be fine a fighting game, an rpg, a linear game. Please 🙏. Is it Bandai in charge?
I hate Bandai
Wdym we’ll have Two Piece
DB ain’t high quality either
Look how far soarking zero has fallen
At least they get decent games
Surely Oda is not that money hungry.
I have doubts that one piece will truly end after Oda said “it’s not serious”
They're just milking Xenoverse 2
Come back to this comment in 10 years when we’ve gotten an announcement that a One Piece spin off is in the works with Oda’s successor as he supervises and gives the story 
Dragon ball fighterz is the best anime game. If one piece had something like that 😩
nen impact clears
What about Code Vein.
Idk about code vein but Bandai hates their original Ips too
Look at how they treat the Tales of series
And Klonoa
Anyone got that one meme of fans of Bandai’s IPs coming together on a roundtable to hate on Bandai
Tbf 3 is a thing now
i loved Klonoa c:
And the xv 2 story is supposed to end i think
yall hyped for next chapter?
Yes
new image saved
I view Imu coming to Elbaph as Oda making the strawhats (mainly Luffy) meet Imu before fighting the WG in the future. I don’t think he just brought Imu here because they’re not fighting in the future.
yessir
holy peak
always hyped for the next chapter
Way I see it
They mostly just fight off the WG people but they never see the face to truly fight
Its just so funny OP is getting this boost in all forms of media except games
Wasn't their last game odyssey?
I feel like the reception was kinda mid ish
And ofc pirate warriors cuz thats the only "big" one
did they add imu to pw yet
I think their last 1 was Enel king and Zephyr?
Yes
There was a game in development but it got cancelled during some Bandai layoffs
So who knows what theyre up to now
one piece mmo when
Nothing is better than blox fruit
do yall think the resemblance between gan fall and mars is on purpose or coincidence
Well they were introduced around the same time
idk do you think the resemblance between nani and vivi is on purpose or coincidence
coincidence for that one
Chapter?
Ive seen a thousand ships pop up with Imu's reveal, some current ones I see:
Imu x Joyboy
Rocks x Imu
Imu x Luffy
Imu x Fem!Rocks
Imu x Nika
14 days for chapter 💔
most of them are probably Imu x Fan
Imu x YN
In the meantime, you can finally read a good story.
Hear me out
Imu x King
Ive seen the jp Fandom calling him an ikemen
So they find him very hot
Half way through OB
Better than one piece 🤞
you people?!
Esp you meeks, I know you have a shipping folder
oh hell yeah
Pasta hates USPS
I don't know what that meeeeeaaaans
Just hot guy
Pasta only wants delivery in person on a bike
which character has the most sensitive fanbase
I got a shipping folder of all your moms
Very accurate and true
and that's pushing it
wdym?
I don't even got a folder it's just 10 gifs 💔
of ships
Chopper?
Stop lying
how many times are you posting this
disgusting
she is killing kuma in like 4 chapters
Here or on #manga too?
Even the elders are ultimately just minions and most of the SH fights against WG is just getting away from them. Even enies lobby for all their war declaration, they only wanted to grab Robin and leave
Imu is THE final boss of the WG. They see him, they finally have a figure to beat up
she's currently in bum fuck nowhere with wapol and morgans as far as we know
running from the entire world government 
abouta have the best sniper feat in the verse
i blame meek
there is no god
i blame meek for my personal struggles too
Always blame meek
Shes going through her training arc
She'll hit imu with the Phoenix Slasher
time to read [rolls for answer] 🎰🎰🎰 haikyuu?
i'm almost at ch160
Already read it all
godDAMMIT
LOL
never miss a day
and he's gold this time
golden boy
i'd say simp but like...yeah i get it
Please spare poor Bellamy at least one vote
I just got a red jack today so no sharing
LMFAOOO
on the last day
just remind me
dressrosa too
If I remember
ban yourself
Imagine voting some1 who worked for doffy, got beat up, still worked for him

He got his ass beat by Doflamingo
bellamy for SH

fuck i forgot he worked for doffy. but i remember he painted flags on a cover story
Yeah that's what he does now ig
after he left dressrosa
tbf bellamy serves the same purpose both pre and post timeskip. he shows what happens when a pirate lacks enough faith in themselves. sucks it had to be the same dude but my heart did at least feel for him a bit in dressrosa, he got done real dirty by doffy
I always thought it was interesting that Harald said this, as though making models is ubiquitous in Elbaph
the color of the card will determine if I vote for her in the future bluko
let's see
Road does have a whole pirate-pla playset
I wonder if any other giants have any
sommers has a fan club?
I think all the straw hats die… so the story becomes dark and griddy. Also tension
Then it becomes the Akainu show
Vote Lucci
that's what I thougfht
Why is he so popular in Africa
Vote for Yamato gang
He's simply the goat
smh it was white
I alone will vote for Maffey
vote carrot
Who?
No
why are you saying the name of a vegetable

"vote cucumber" like lmao
Him?
She’s a fake strawhat, got bodied by perospero, didn’t get a good bye scene
Why would you ever vote for carrot
ohhhh the usopp pirate

vote for this boi
Carrot got robbed of her dream by two senile minks so the least she deserves is your vote
me: i'm not a furry i swear
oda: have you met this rabbit
more versions soon
I saw a theory saying that Imu's blob body was a chrysalis. And that imu was still healing from the VC war, staying in the holy land in peace away from fighting was allowing him to heal. But by leaving the Holy Land, he forces himself out of the form to fight, and thats where the blood comes from. Him not being fully healed from his fight against Joyboy 800 years ago
Bro needs a good doctor
Joyboy did a number on him huh
maybe imu can't heal and is stuck taking damage but halts the progression by doing nothing
Imu: And since then... Mu hath been searching for a legendary fruit, one who said could heal all. Such fruit, shaped as a mushroom, Mu struggles yet to find.
Steals chopper

found footage type recording
"too powerful and destructive"

Hot
Probably, since he has THE devil fruit, it's probably more susceptible to water than anything, it's also why he decided to go to the heaven layer of Elbaph, the furthest from sea water
Jesus Christ how bad did he get his ass whooped
If the fight happened lower he probably would have told the goroseis to take care of it
Imu got jumped by Joyboy and friends and still won. He surely didnt come out unscathed
Joyboy, joyboys crew, 3 super weapons of mass destruction
It wasn't a one sided stomp
would explain the trauma from experiencing joyboy's haki knot bull
I doubt imu soloed that
He probably got help from the gorosei depending on how old they were
We're gonna get a void century flashback sooner or later so it's only a matter of time before we find out
vrotex do you think loki will get neg diffed
Nah
But I doubt he'll win
I want IMU to decimate everyone and everything in elbaph
Please
Put up a fight but show us a fraction of the power of the OG devil fruit user
based
The power of one of the 20 kings, and the one who beat them all
The one who came out on top of the world and changed it to fit as his image and needs

imu was really the main character, one piece is just a far flung story after their epilogue
IMU's story ended as soon as Davey stepped onto his palace, at that moment he realized he was not untouchable anymore
IMU's story was one of immense oppression and suffering, but all stories must come to an end eventually
I think Imu is what Vegapunk thinks the Seraphim are
The perfect form of humanity
It’s time to pass the torch to a new oppressor
*strongest
Maybe Imu was a/the first modified human
The tattoos on his body seem to resemble circuitry and I wonder if it’s VC tech or if it appears with his DF transformation
Current options I've seen used for Imu's skin color
Brown/Lunarian
Red
Gray
Dark Blue/Dark Gray
They did have a weird sound effect when they emerged from the blob
Like bzzt bzzt
when the wings came out of Imu's body
there was a bzzt
Oh ur right I didn’t notice that
Isn't that just conquerors
Idk
I don’t really follow the haki effects to know
Yea probably just haki
tch posting other series convos...
This is about Imu duh
I think these marks and such are tech
Yea
Elbaph is just writing slop… with zero hype moments and peak
Some cyberpunk type tech
OMG
Which makes sense why it was absolutely crucial to BB’s plan and why Rocks wasnt ready to fight Imu. This fruit is a hard counter for akuma no mi
I'm on BB's side at this point.
I definitely think the darkness fruit was one of the two Rocks wanted
Is this not anime only
I think it is
But its not inaccurate

BB even mentioned i think that he was pretty close to giving up on searching for it
He looks more 😠
Anime was like "FINALLY."
Guys….what if imu is immortal because of lili?
U had the circuit styled clothing on egghead but those were on the clothes and not the skin
Those thighs tho..
Interesting with what's happening with Chopper
Hiriluk said this about drum kingdom
But I’m thinking Lili gave her heart to Imu
In the operation
I kinda want Imu and Lili to be more in love..
I wonder whomst their child was tho..
Luffy's outfit in Egghead had 163 on the back.
1 = i
6 = mu
3 = san
Like the ppl in Amazon lol!
Fandom will be shell shocked when imu isn’t head over heels for lili
hm?
Listen I’m starting to think maybe Lili died for imu and that’s why he’s obsessed lol
He hates her though
There’s a connection between Imu and Amazon Lily
He has only spoken of her and her “mistake” with contempt
The mistake was her letting him live lol
And dying
Is this implying that Imu was like Luffy
The mistake was letting the ponegliffs spread
Why?
the questions are, why does he keep a picture of her in his garden room and why does he desire her descendent
it's true that he spoke of lili with contempt, but why the obsession with her and her lineage
Those are intriguing questions indeed. I don’t think the answer is that imu is in love with Lili and wants vivi
Idk, she could’ve made other mistakes such as disappearing
His(Imu) pose makes me think of someone who reluctantly ascended into power and godhood.
Or not joining them
No one said he “wants” vivi in that way ew lol. Maybe that’s his daughter from the future
Or some shit lol joking idk
A lot of people think imu wants vivi for Marriage or something sadly
Nah
Sadly?
He's got some beef with them
He’s a corrupt king and not just that a CD
Does Imu have satyr legs?
I don’t think imu cares for stuff like that in his current state. The goresei are not ruled by their desires like regular CDs are
too unclear to tell
bruh thats like my 4th one now
hope we get a full body shot in the next chapter
Would really fit the Baphomet theme I guess
imu aura-farming is nice but we also don't get to see a proper view of his full design because of it
we gonna get a mini time skip and we just see Imu having beaten everyone



