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Op before time skip>
He literally took the break at the end of wano to sort out the details and structure of the final saga
The lore and things being told to us this saga have been seeds planted 10+ years ago
I wonder is Oda is pro unionization for Shonen artists
Where were we 19 years ago Infact?
i believe so
Dress Rosa I think
Thriller bark/late Enies lobby
😭😭im seein that bro
Oh wait I said 19
anime shut that down
Doing anything to make her special
Yeah 10 was Dressrosa
I think oda is a bit overrated for story writing i thing there are lot of mangakas who are better at story writing
the people crave louis arnot’s comment to mean something
What does this mean
i was seeing the imu kidnap nami theories this week like he’s not already hyper focused on vivi
10 was Dressrosa?
yeah, he literally said it^
I want to fix up the structure for the final part of the story so I can tighten it up as soon as possible~. So ba-si-ca-lly…. Sorry. Allow me to indulge in taking a breather and taking time to prepare!!
oh you also started weekly at dressrosa
Oda has his bag of tropes he tends to reach for, but he also has some level of variety. Is he the best? Eh, that's subjective, of course. I think a lot of love for Oda also comes simply from the wackiness of the series.
I mean sometimes he stretches out a lotttt
Vivi is a red herring, youre not prepared for this
ur a red herring
i think oda is a great writer but it’s fine for him to not be your favourite
he’s probably not mine
are there any vivi fans who want her to be kidnapped...
I wish Oda stretched out more
like that shit is ASS
One Piece is my second favorite story, but I criticize Oda plenty.
red herring is too severe
the story
Stretched. Heh.
I genuinely appreciate oda but the problem is once you read a lot of different mangas u build a different perspective
Right
I haven’t ever felt that way reading it but that’s all up to the person who’s reading. I don’t think he’s overrated. If you think there’s others better that’s fine but I don’t think that makes Oda overrated
but luffy is the one who stretches
yeah i wouldn’t call oda overrated
oh, there's thunder outside
I can agree with this.
one piece is one of the best selling series for a reason
Odas actual plot/story is one of his better traits I’d say
Thor
one piece is qualityslop
as you consume more media it’s normal to prefer others over one you started with
I said a bit overrated also dressrosa whole cake in my opinion was the most stretched
Nowadays I think the pacing is too fast
But he does kind of rely on his own tropes to push the story forward, and that's fine. We come to expect it at that point. Though there is something to be said about variety being the spice of life.
Kool
I'm OK with the pacing being fast, but that's cause I want this series to end already
feels like the pacing is fast in the wrong places
The pacing has to be fast in order for the story to ever be finished before Oda kicks the bucket
I'd say one of his best trait is having the series be able to continually evolve and grow more complex while keeping the same core appeal throughout
Oda has been pretty solid at making things connect retrospectively. Not always perfect mind you (i'm not a fan of why shanks lost his arm now)
Oda has a lot of good traits
cuz ur worried for Oda's health or you think it would be superior than having slower pacing?
Yeah but I have genuinely liked that current scenario in manga specially since god valley incident
Yeah that's the thing with Oda, he sometimes doesn't know how to allocate panel time
slower pacing is superior in my eyes. but at this point, this close to the end, i'm perfectly fine with faster pacing to end this series. Oda's health is part of that reason, yes.
I felt it a lot in Onigashima, it felt simultaneously dragged and rushed
Been rereading parts of Wano recently and there's quite a few subplots that kinda go nowhere or are very abruptly resolved
yeah
the Raid fucking dragged
I think Oda changed his pacing style after Wano
The Raid definitely caused him to reconsider
Like gecko Moria’s flashback n Oda made that one clear
It was one of those things where the story and characters probably got out of his hands
GODA is just foreshadowing for when he creates NAMI V38.PURPLE HAIR EDITION in the future ☝️🤓
Pacing is one of those things I don’t give that much of a shit about to be honest
I could never get hung up on it
I'm okay with the faster pacing as long as the quality keeps up, and so far it's been the case in Elbaph
🤔
Kinda feel like Yamato comes even more out of nowhere now too with more recent context for the first half of Wano
I was worried with the HKs getting offscreened, but I'll let Oda cook for now
Elbaph is the best arc in whole op
#FuckFandomWiki
yikes
now any anime only that wants to search imu has his whole face shown front center
They basically stopped giving a fuck a while ago
We all love the part where she says she’s Oden in front of Momo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't they have Imu and Nerona Imu as separate entries?
they used to until today i think
"Imu" google search sends you to Nerona Imu
In that case it's kinda scummy
But i dont look up stuff about ANY series i havent finished
Ive been burned too many times
you should not be surprised
Do you guys think imu gonna kill someone important in next chapters like any strawhat
The wiki has always been like this lol
will kill loki
oh definitely not I've hated fandom wiki since the dawn of time
No straw hat will be killed
Just realized Loki and Harjudins surnames are probably Haraldson cus thats how viking surnames work
yeah
Haraldson Loki goes hard
Haj is a bastard though
But nidhogg and Nika i think will be in final arc so I don't think so
nope, just irrelevant people already half way in the dirt... like Jarul
ussop gets the fruit
My only real gripe with the fandom wiki (apart from ya know...fandom's atrocious UI) is that they've started including anime-only information in some descriptions lol
that's actually one of the good things about yamato, cause I dislike momo
Apart from straw hat saul?
Who
If you make the choice to be anime only, you live with the consequences
Saul is not a straw hat
okay, then Idason Harjudin
Valid
But for the maximum efficiency for nidhogg only loki is suitable not usopp
I said apart from
we ain't min maxing here
Maybe Sanji.

no
What
huh? I think you missed a comma then?
don't worry about it
I see
no but hopefully we get a somewhat relevant death like brogy
you don't want to minmax??? your choice of characters are not exclusively based on stats? how dare you
I mean, i min max everything bro
butttt
Yeahh probably
oda doesn't
100% with a 1000%
would be extremely hype icl
with his mythical angel devil fruit
already taken by Lafitte
i think he may be moments away from killing one of them, but temporarily halt when he finds out theyre close with Vivi
maybe Robin clocks that Vivi must be with Morgans cus of the X mark and tells Imu that she'll spill her location if he lets them go
-# they wont actually dox Vivi, but I think this distraction will save someone from dying
lafitte probably just has the cherub devil fruit
close enough
Vivi will return to the story when the next slave hunt happens on Ex-World Government allied island Arabasta
or siren
Nicee that can happen!
Imu needs to kill Jarul.
Well ig you just erased Vivi from the story then since your word is final
Dory and Broggy too.
Jarul would die if someone farted in his direction
Jarul has his hemet on tho
"No vivi"
so it shall be
probably closer, since the wings replaces his arms
Damn it.
one piece is good again
Haralds sword was apparently legendary maybe imu can commandeer it
What if Imu snaps their fingers and shrinks the Elbaph sword and then proceeds to wield it with magic.
is there any chance urogue shows up and scares imu
No.
no hes spectating in the heaven realm
Urogue would die just by coming near Imu probably.
!urucrew
He has been getting stronger!
Sure?
You'd either have to be insane or an idiot to interfere with whats about to happen
no, Strongers the horse 
if urouge shows up, he's just getting killed
that would be fucking hilarious icl
He literally made Kaido jump
I can see Big News Morgans intervene just to get the best photo.
imu appeared, it's time for urouge to appear
FACK YOU BYATCH
all the background characters like imu already showed up so now it's time for the main one
I swear the raws i used didnt have a parenthesis. If they did. Then im a fucking idiot and a fucking chud
Ive seen a massive uptick in the usage of chud in like the past week
ngl i have a feeling imu's flashback might make us sympathetic to his cause but not his methods
Internet discovers 4chan slang and has to use it every sentence
I have a feeling we'll get to see the devil play their game.
Lying and manipulating everyone aroung them.
Pure evil from birth.
viz is boring they used the same font and size for all 3 lines
We good
By guys 🙌 have a Great one
For guys 🙌
just like doffy fr
Me reading imus fb and seeing he got dumped by lili and thats why he crashed out
Worse than Doflamingo, Imu will be more messed up than him.
He'll be literally the devil incarnate.
Still thinking of some of the early leaks/scans of 1175 where the leakers used bad AI upscaling on the pages and turned Ragnir into a giant bunch of bananas
so much more clean looking
"then"?
lol
No way.
Bots
insane twinning
We are Imu's bots
imu is taking over your feeds
I just discovered that krome is brachy's alt account

i got a few in mine but they got drowned out by other stuff
I want my feed to be just Imu.
the exact same second😂
the skulls are stitched here. What did Imu do to them???? 
Experiment.
so true, youre a fucking idiot and a fucking chud and you need to quit NOW
Like the insects they are.
after he was done drinking he put the lid back on
brain stealing
larp piece...
Monkey D. Neuer 😭
we love ai
Ai 🤤🖍
Craions 🤤
Exept snoplop
oh my goodness gracious
the vaguely ghibli-style faces lmao
1️⃣ A Devil Fruit
2️⃣ Not a DF, Devil Adjacent Powers
3️⃣ Other
the devil fruit
THE devil fruit
its a fruit but its not a devil fruit
one fruit to rule them all
💀
the EVIL fruit
gear death
I will just say its devil adjacent powers
not a devil fruit
luffy must find the fruit and throw it into akainu
the devil fruit which produced the devils that are in the other devil fruits 
Yall are gonna switch up on Imu AGAIN when he finally medts Vivi
Fuck you you snail
TOTAL AURA LOSS
hmmm
so if there's "The Devil's fruit" is there also "The God's fruit" and "The Angel's fruit"
who will be the angel of one piece
Its a devilfruit, but its not a devilfruit
Robin
prolly not
why is no one saying lafitte
!os
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the whole thing is too vague to actually be called ''The Devil's fruit''
Meek, that is Portgas D. Ace
this is why youre behind in school work
?
dont trust that translation
because they are only guessing
Dont you know what anime thats a reference to😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I like that "Imu will have the ink fruit" selected 1
One Piece.
Do you think the Yami Yami would work on it then?
yeah even i got the ref
why not
nah
he aint in the gif tho
its the best we have
If you can immediately tell what somethings referencing but a layman couldnt then its not a spoiler
because I don't like the guy, and I don't want him to have anything good
it also was in both translations
😭
fair enough
the japanese just says ''Akuma No Mi'' which only translates to ''Devil Fruit''
You already did
Monkey D Dragon. Please teach me how to dougie
Lafeet 🦶
more people shouldve said it
Lafitte's wings are his arms so he's a dumb bird
LAFEET THE GOAT
Devil's fruit and The Devil's Fruit are interpretations of it
I didnt say it BECAUSE you said it
cause he was the demon sherif
are the people who said this not the same people who translate it to devil's fruit
god fruit is enel btw
you couldve agreed with me
Bro his neck was so THICK
smh
I agree
wait if the sea hates devil fruit users does tha mean the sea loves god fruit users? so the god fruit user is a fishman
yeah, they think thats the most appropriate interpration of it, that doesn't make it a 100% accurate thing
thank you
Okay well it does make it the best we have
How do his lafeet look like
sure yeah
Will Oda reveal
this one also says "The Devil's fruit"
its different than normal for a reason 
Lafeet reveal > Imu face reveal
The reason for it being "The Devil's Fruit" is because they are using the possessive の
Please just leak a magazine where Imu's design and colors are shown.
Lafitte’s Feet
Şeytanin meyvesi
it can just mean imu is the "devil" and he has a fruit
that wouldnt make much sense though
okay who waxed shank's eyelashes though
Imus Secret
let me cope
If you mean Imu is the devil and he gives out fruit yea
probably hongo
GIVE ME NOWWWWW!
Sports Imustrated
I NEED THE COLORS...
They should just throw seawater at Imu and see what happens
I love when an episode is so hyped that it gets its own advertising
wdym gives out fruit
this is what I am thinking
To Eve
gives out powers akin to devil fruits
what color ya want him to be
hence gorosei and holy knight contracts
Literally any, as long as he keeps the white hair. 
ohh
the gorosei probably didnt eat literal fruits either, they just have power through imu contracts
I believe his ability is "Devil Fruit'', which means he can literally give out devil fruits, not that he has a DF himself
greenMu it is
if that makes sense
Finally people will agree with me when I say Imu has the devilfruits direct source
mars' concerned face reminds me of the concerned face of a parent about their child
Imu is
-OP's version of the devil
-A demonic spirit who has possessed the human known as Nerona Imu
-Nerona Imu who has made a pact with the devil
I'm sure there are 30 other ideas
if imu is the devil fruit source does that mean hes a tree
Imu is the literal reincarnation of the devil from the first world.
i think its safe to say it isn't another usual fruit, logia, paramecia, zoan, whatever
sure, that too
or maybe its workplace yaoi
its like Mr.3's ability being wax, which allows him to create and manipulate Wax
That's better than a devil devil fruit
Well how do you explain the trees and houses becoming evil
stop
Imu's ability is literally just Devil Fruit, its everything to do with Devil Fruits basically
inherited will
If it was the devil devil fruit, oda would have just put devil devil
sorry 💀
yeah
Ju peter shouldve been a woman
Why him
How did he contaminate the entire ocean
Topwoman
Blond
And young
Wait no hes not young and blond because ofa is a fucking hack
[#ONEPIECE1179]
︀︀
︀︀“Deep Dive Of Imu Power”
︀︀
︀︀So within the officials, we get the reveal of Imu abilities being the actual devils fruit. Well let’s go down Christianity theology.
︀︀
︀︀People will automatically assume it’s just the forbidden fruit with Adam & eve. But its much more then that. Rather he has the devils actual blessing of worldly powers, that is like flip side of the sun god.
︀︀
︀︀Basically Imu ability is of negative/dark imagination of the devil & it’s the polar opposite of the sun god that’s Light/positive imagination. This is why Oda made sure to add in Imu own music, like the drums of liberation. In a way, yes we can say Imu has the devils fruit, but the abilities of the black sun.
**❤️ 3 👁️ 26 **
Roger has an insane chin
You just want the only gorosei who is young to be conveniently a woman
I wear my heart on my sleeve
Entherited Will
Devil's fruit would still mean that tho but yes
It just means he is the devil, he gives out fruit
I still lean on VP's theory of it being people's desires.
well I guess, but the implication currently is that he actually has a fruit
WAIT THATS CRAZY, THE HOUSES WERE SINGING CUS OF HIS IMAGINATION LIKE LUFFY!?!??!?!??
THATS SO FIREEEE
Can he give logia and Paramecia powers or just Zoan based powers
Devil's fruit does not imply he has an actual fruit more than "devil fruit"
he only picks zoans to fit his theme
gng shit
Both can be interpreted to mean what you said if we tried, but "Devil fruit" is more easily interpreted as an actual fruit power than "Devil's fruit"
I think best would be the same Gorosei but after Saturns death Shanks and Shamrocks hot twin sister that was also always there becomes a Gorosei
how was the episode
Good.
Episodic
no opening/10
He has been giving out Mythical Zoans because its the most powerful type, but I do think he will be able to use and create others.
any imu haters in chat
The Ability is throwing me off and making me think its not a fruit power
Well yeah everyone I hope no one is satanistic
bare minimum it's the OG devil fruit. other than that, it's a non-df power associated with a demon realm
More of a title of the ability, of handing out powers under a contract like taking a bit out of the devils fruit
Yoooo I got silver drake
Good writing according to some fans
A contract you say
If you only read One Piece through illegal toilet paper scans you’d think it has the worst art ever
I feel like you could sign powers through contracts if you had an awakened ink fruit #justsaying
people who read the actual physical volumes are reading a diff series fr
Yea, its categorized just as a "power" which is new
this is good writing tho
the two options like I said before are:
He's the devil, no fruit, he has the power to create Devil Fruits
He has The Devil Fruit, used to be human, but got taken over by the devil inside the fruit.
true
I think good writing would be if Oda did this with Imu and Luffy with the power of freedom and happiness and funny and imagination wins over the edgy villain
Truth nuke
BB fans you will have to answer the bold claims sooner then you think
are those fans in the room with us rn?
Wakainu
the first one makes you wonder why he created so many weird ones then. and if it coincides with VP's theory of "desire" and was Imu good at one point in giving people the powers they desired
I do believe he was
this is akainu whether the guy who drew it intended for it to be him or not
I think he does not create the stuff you know to be devil fruits
because the people hes given contracts to are not introduced like normal fruits

Has anyone done further analysis of the Elbaf mural since this reveal?
so I think his "fruit" is just a power he gives to people like gorosei
yall think he actually picks them out or rng spits them out
Im currently liking the Idea that Imu themselves is oldx like first world old, and that the Ancient Kingdom's DF and their creation is based on Imu's ability to hand out abilities
So, you're thinking the powers we commonly refer to as devil fruits are of a completely different origin?
Like how the smiles are based on DFs, DFs are based On imu's ability
I read the 2nd world again I guess. Forest god taming devils is the key I think
I think the Devil is just the Earth God, turned against humanity by its own faults
Whopper
I think (without much evidence), that each person has a power that'd probably naturally fit them, and so it just auto gives the gorosei whatever fits them
ooh this is a good take on it too
Im saying theyre not made by Imu
thats interesting
What is your theory on who makes them. I always go back to VP's theory of desire (as if that was Oda's way of hinting to us).
by end of this arc, imu will have gained his humanity while luffy will have lost his 💔
do you think the First World was even more advanced than the second or was the break only after the second
LMAO
Peak writing...
I think the First World was modern Earth advanced without being modern earth. Something earth-adjacent.
I dont know really. It could have been that Imu back in void century made them and gave them out, but again thatd make it weird cuz the gorosei dont seem to have powers like traditional fruits.
So I dont really know who/how its made
joybot possession
Whoever made them surely made the ocean anti-DF
break after the 2nd
Consider they seemed to travel between planets in the first world. But maybe in the second too
i hope imu shit talks luffy real bad
bro really hates water
he doesnt measure up to joyboy
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Thoughts about IMU's physical appearance and history with JoyBoy and Lili
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Thanks goat @ tekking
i haven't heard that theory yet
yall ever considered devil fruits are kind of a contract? you get powers in exchange for weakness to water
I mean thats pretty much known, or arent you familiar with the Enel mural
Yeah, you're signing a contract with the devil by eating one.
Isn't that why they're called devil fruits.
I hope imu can just take luffy powers away
i never saw the first world as another planet nor the moon
Would be sick.
That’s blackbeard bud
who
Blackbeard doesn't ring a bell. 
I saw the first world as a civilization even before the ancient kingdom. we are in a post post apocalyptic world
Its like Eve eating the devils apple every time for the devilfruits
Being thrown out of paradise = not being able to swim
Maybe underwater is paradise lol
That's what BB is for
fishman upscale
imu is the ceo of devil fruits, bb is nothing to him
Too bad BB is climbing the corporate ladder
Like a turd... In the wind.
Yuderon has spoken - the number puns for chapter 1180 are: ''Terrible Conquerors/Terrible Power''
Imu is about to show evil CoC 
Didn't they already? I mean their arrival knocked the kids out.
that guy is still around
I actually went to check him out, out of curiousity lol
finally the beginning of elemental haki
No but on the Enel mural they had people descending from the moon to earth and the moon looks like a spaceship. And there were also ships in the sky on the right side of the mural (first world) and mechanical looking planets. What Enel found looks a lot like that side of the mural. In any case space travel existed at some point in history
he is still around yeah
that magic circle can cover a normal sized island
he also pointed out something else, I posted it earlier
Sanji upscale too because he claimed FMI as paradise
Imu's arrival could demolish an island.
This panel is interesting
Yuderon pointed out the similarity between these two chapters, though I expanded upon it a bit further
OK I have assumed space travel of some sorts exists in OP 'since unique creatures in space suits were on the moon. But I guess only ever assumed the moon and the blue planet were relevant to the story. I would need to go back to ene's cover story. Does this have anything to do with Clover's planetary model he had?
joyboy haki better
I mean we've not seen Imu's strongest haki yet.
joyboy haki better anyway
Joyboy made sure that it was his strongest haki which he tied into the rope.
1160 chapters ago btw
16.......
yeah...
God Usopp has the Sogeking’s fruit
imagine usopp. that's it. just imagine.
We arent told so but it might. On the mural there are multiple orbs at the top. Whether they are moons or planets or spacecraft but it seems fitting to Clovers planetary model (where one of the celestial bodies also seemed to have its own satellite)
YC did you see this
Good gravy he’s yuderon posting
If Elemental Haki happens I would be so happy
The longest joke
it’s been marinating for years now
I wasnt planning on checking him out till you compared me with him yesterday smh
treasure
I thought he quit
rope
lamp oil
well he didnt actually
Deez
Oda said theorists suck and he said he was closing shop
yeah so it turned out that Oda did not say that
Thats pretty cool we also saw a big Nami reaction panel when Imu arrived
and he came back
Now he’s telling me to kill myself
bombs
Wow you stole my idea
the treasure will sadly never live up to expectations
no I have had that idea, idk youre aware of this part penny
NOT AGAIN
but there's a phrase that accompanies many mentions of the One Piece
That's my job
I said the one piece is a collective haki rope that Joyboy left behind and Roger added his haki into it
And Luffy will too
And it's the secret to defeating Imu
What's it gonna do, blow up the red line?
Sure
Ah yes
The ultimate treasure
A bomb
people just made it all up ?
The one piece was a planted bomb to end piracy
''hitotsunagi no daihi ho'', which essentially at face value just means ''the great treasure/legendary treasure''
but it could also be read as ''the rope that connects all men''
or ''one sea at peace''
Ok so the One Piece is sexist too, typical Oda
I think its a hidden in plain sight hint for what it is
There is a rope in the OP logo, right?
Yes
How does the rope work?
and Oda has mentioned that it means something he wont reveal
And its called the one piece
The one piece of rope that connects
something similar to haki knot, but not with haki
rope burn haki
Well they just came off another fight and Luffy is an old man so idk if they’re putting up the best hands
Birkans invented a technology that allowed them to store anything inside the rope
Haki means Will btw
It inherits the Will of all things

low dif
but whatever it is, i expect it will split the fandom in half
I think it will also be something that stores something
not neg
why was roger too early for a rope?
imu will destroy luffy and loki
Imu did something that damaged himself it cant be for nothing
He has to go bonkers
Like he destroyed Sabo? 🙏
fr
I want a negative diff but I dont trust oda enough to do that so low diff
Imagine imu fights em and was like "I thought you were stronger"
sabo > rocks
Yes, Imu is going to be frightening. Like nothing we've seen before
Pda
i got imu winning mid diff
Public Displays of Affection
I think neg dif is just too quick for the story
That'd speed run the story
if they get neg diffed what do we even do from there
die
I mean I can imagine anyone thinking it's a close fight
nothing😂
unless dragon is showing up next chapter
that’s why it won’t happen
no dragon
If yonko level characters are getting neg diffed Oda lost the plot
Dragon won't show up
luffy and loki got exhausted fighting imu at 1% of his power
His wind is too slow
I mean that would be very edgy (which does fit to his appearance) I feel like he would just be relieved
Unfortunately this is Luffy vs kaidou act 1 levels
they gotta pull up with more people next time
One piece is pver
low dif still means we got destoryed but at least you can drag the choreography a bit
Why do I keep typing p for o
bro was just remote mogging on luffy from the comfort of his home
Take a wild guess
Laww would you call this low dif
Law diff
Wrong! Law ranked that same attack
Yeah Imu deserves an act 1
You think dragon is some super powerful being stronger than loki and Luffy combined?
We know it was because Shirahoshi wasn't born yet.
I think its something that has to be used in Pangaea, Roger wasnt ready to take on the World Government and to combine all seas into one till the sea god is born with the ability to control the seas and its creatures.
no, Im just saying we'd need whoever is strong enough to help to show up immediately
If Imu neg diffs here it’ll just create the biggest power cliff in shonen history 
Imu is neg diffing Luffy, like nobody has ever been neg diffed before
I can think of worse ones
No yonko tier
yeah
Its Imu
I mean that one is weird. Luffy punches him around for a while until he becomes sober. If you were only counting the fight after kaido was sober, its no diff/neg diff same thing. And I think Imu should have a little more trouble than that
And this is Luffy
If Luffy and loki together can't do anything then no matter who shows up it won't change
Rocks is weaker than a squirrel, it's fine
ArsalWise as the expert on odas jump festa messages what do you make of him implying we may end elbaf this year and also go to laughtale
when you say the word sea god, do you mean poseidon?
yeah
ok
Caleb, that is a poor translation
Its gonna be wrong
Okay well Im just saying if they get neg diffed then the story would need whoever the savior is to show up immediately
Oh really?
Like
we saw how imu neg diffed rocks and rocks is literally stronger than roger
I mean idk if he actually said this year but I dont think we will go to Laugh Tale already
Imu neg diff and then immediately leaves because if he stays too long, Colon will one shot him
If Imu is a neg diff above all these characters, then that means like only one person could really fight him by the end
Imu just wants to fight Usopp and Luffy and Loki
We not talking about mind control young man
Nerona “Sea Devil , forest god, earth god, The creator, Satan” imu
i forgot Imu did say there is nothing greater than becoming a demon. does that suggest he was human at one point but then came into contact with such power?
Yeah imu isn't the type that would let them get away not dead
The jump festa message from 3 years ago hasn't happened yet, Elbaf is not ending this year
Loki is stronger then both
this is the official translation of Oda's statement:
It says ENDED, as in, the past, as in, the flashback that he had just finished ending in the submitted manuscripts of the chapter when he made this statement. He is not talking about the ending of the arc.
Wait do you agree that he has all those gods except sun god and thats why hes chasing Nika
I mean
Going from a mortal killable human to an immortal regenning one shotting devil will do things to u
Yeah.
WHO IS THE MAN WITH THE BURN SCAR AHHHH
Bluejam
ODAAA
Or maybe world famous oppressor is chasing Nika because he’s the world famous oppression stopper
Urouge. I just need an excuse for him to be in the story
I see. So we are going to see a lot of encounters. Obviously imu Luffy and Loki here now. But probably some others in a cut away. And burn scar man when this arc ends
blade of god
What did he say?
Lmaooooo there's no way it's urouge like why would people call him burn scar man it's gotta be someone new
urouge will be a blade of god doing imus bidding to one day become a holy knight
Luffy and Imu are probably the characters that never met each other before
W
As for Oda teasing the next island, thats irrelevant for now. There's no timeline to it, whatever Oda teases is simply the future, it can be the near future or the distant future, but its impossible to tell.
Oda saying the story is moving at a breakneck speed makes me thing we will end closer to 5 years rather than 10 but that’s not for me to worry about
I just want my list of things to be shown
we don't know his backstory
About "that man and that man" fighting, which to be fair might be happening now if he meant Luffy and Imu
Mostly flashbacks
that man
Do you think this applies to man marked by flames too
Like he straight up said we meet him
Bluejam was last seen in the burning grey terminal on dawn island, was never confimed dead and Luffy ran into a whirlpool when he left dawn island
I'm telling you
It's Bluejam
If bluejam is the burn scar man I’ll lick odas feet
so like what happened to Imu's crown lol
it definitely does yeah
Thats what im wondering too
It disappears for the sake of convenience
Just like kaidos kanabo
I wanted to see how the crown looks like ):
Get ready
We will see when imu returns to mariejois post arc
"and last but not least... it will finally happen. The long awaited clash between THAT person and THAT other person might just have an unexpected outcome" - Jump Festa 2024, December 2023
"Meanwhile, there will be tumult in other seas as well! And at last, that one guy will begin shaking up the world!" Jump Festa 2025, December 2024
We still dont even know what these two statements were all about btw
so we can relax on trying to comprehend the timeline of Oda's latest statement
its gonna take a while
dragon and imu
that one guy being blackbeard of course
Imu was referenced earlier in the 2024 statement
Yeah the leaving Elbaf and going to Laugh Tale is not happening this year, so maybe the man marked by flames neither
oda just yapping for the sake of it. he is not a reliable source
New imu pfp time
Rip Mistborn
Pick greymu

oh okay, I don't know then its probably Shanks and BB, can't think of others with major tension that we know of
Vin had a great run but this is too monumental to ignore
''and last but not least... it will finally happen. The long awaited clash between THAT person and THAT other person might just have an unexpected outcome'' - I do think this can be Luffy v Imu
its long awaited
and its gonna have an unexpected outcome I guess
now yea, the timeline is all wrong, but literally no battle happened since then that fits the description lol
The beginning of 2025 message had something to the effect of "stay tuned for the current events outside of Elbaph" lmao
yeah, that was the ''meanwhile, there will be tumult in other seas as well''
and we did not even a GLIMPSE outside of Elbaf
Oda likes getting a kick out of us
do you guys know that this Marie Geoise scene with Imu is the very first time we have seen the outside world since Elbaf began
Thank god
its wild
Now we got 1 burned building in Mariejois and a vague Marineford mention
Good
It’s shanks and blackbeard
we'll get the cutaways
Shanks isn’t pulling up to elbaf for a reason
Perfect pick Muk
don't forget they are starving York
Grey and glorious
Thank you
Lol the previous pfp looked more One Piece than this one
I love greymu
possible, but right now Imu v Luffy is happening sooner
why will it be urouge
Greymu best Mu
I hope Imu is a tomato
Oda is spreading his wings. This art is glorious
illy, muk, penny on team gray Imu
yea he knows he will get his ass whooped. same reason why he won't pull up to BBs home.
if that person refers to Luffy, then Oda is the biggest troll of all time
Im on team gaymu
Sever bet: what color will imus skin be
but he will go out of his way to chase a scrub like barto
This is a good idea
Red
Joyboy and Imu doomed yaoi
Soon
it'll be a long bet I feel
As usual
It could be the 116 volume cover
Red, Brown, Other
Imu Luffy Loki and ragnir
And if not Oda will do a color spread for the poll again and surely Imu will be in the top 100
Red, brown, gray have been the options I've seen so far
Idk about grey
they NEED to change his image in the poll site
Grey is too cool for Oda
fuck the anime onlies
Red and brown i can understand though
Helmeppo pulled up... give him conq haki man
If they change it Imu will be top 15
But they're evil Rocks propagandists so they won't
i need to see imu fight with that fucked up glaive
Rocks propaganda is good
Rocks ragebaited him so hard he dropped lore
If u want rocks propaganda
Make some up from his attack name: Pandaemonium
the real tragedy is no Ragnir in the poll

no clue what that means but it sounds cool asf
They make him part of loki
criminals
The capital of hell in Paradise Lost
116 cover being a 3 way of Luffy Loki and imu with ragnir shown in the middle will be peak
Give it to us oda
at least people would vote for ragnir
Can we get john cena to voice ragnir
Wait this would fit to the number too
that's because Bogard is secretly a God's Sword and is Imu's spy for keeping tabs on Garp
.....
Why did Oda give Rocks Pandaemonium of all things...
Yu D. Eron 
we only have ragnirs cousin in the poll
hes bogmortal
Pandaemonium was actually Oda's hint to Imu's true nature 
Hes Imu
My headcanon is they mass produce Bogards at navy hq like the Germa clone army
In Book 10, Satan returns to Hell and sits on the throne inside of Pandæmonium, where he witnesses the demons and himself transform into serpents (10.506-532).
every vice admiral gets a bogard
I hope this is true
the bogards only have enough energy reserves to follow garp around
garps bogard is the og
one bogardillion of them please
Wait is Pandaemonium a guy?
Bogard has actually appeared in one poll before, but its unclear why thats stopped happening in the last 2
Its the capital of Hell from the Paradise Lost poem
yeah Satan sat inside of a guy, yc
Wait
I’m very impatient and want Oda to go deep into imus character but it’s gonna be a while
not inside of a place called pandemonium
I read "instead" and not "inside"
Pandaemonium was built by fallen angels
holy one piece reader
Yeah I was confused
Most literal op reader
I want to get an Imu pfp so bad... but I must stay strong
Imu is cute and very much a twink
I cant cuz id spoil my friends
So what if Rocks being given the name Pandaemonium was just Oda's sneaky workaround of giving a hint to Imu's nature
just put a fanart instead
no one piece art style
What about Rocks is named Pandemounium, his attack?
Muks genuinely would work yeah
His one and only named attack
that's the attack he sent on imu no?
Why did he get that of all things besides a cool edgy name
Its probably related to the Davys
Davy Jones was king of the world
Likely sitting on a throne too
Imu stole it?
Sabo himself even said something about "to think i'd see hell at the top of the world"
What if its quite literak
The holy land
Is pandaemonium
The capital of hell itself


Imu literally warped the surrounding area into demonic variants
sandman is such a BB glazer
Once imu's true nature is revealed to the world
The holy lands bright shiny area will be changed
To a literal castle of hell
Even sandman the hobo in oda's back alley knows
Lmao
All the celestial dragons will change
Blackbeard really said that
They will become Hell Serpents
I agree
In Book 10, Satan returns to Hell and sits on the throne inside of Pandæmonium, where he witnesses the demons and himself transform into serpents (10.506-532).
Thats why Imu keeps them around
bb fans getting desperate
Imu will go full power and reveal himself
Turning every1 in the holy land into demons
Reading the story = desperate
“Desperate”
The people who are denying it are the desperate ones 😂
meow
Yesss
wait what is this about?
Blackbeard final villain?
What happened?
it all depends on what happens here
Literally 1 of the 3 most important chapters in the series
The celestial dragons pride themselves on being connected to the kings of past, as if revered as literal gods
But Imu will reveal to be the devil, and all the CDs will become the fallen angels
If people are denying that Blackbeard will be Imu’s foil as well. They are on agenda 
I have seen a lot of collages, when you start collage-posting, its truly over
I remember the Yamato collage-posters
knowing this fandom, it's obvious a lot of people would think about Imu being the very final villain
and the Carrot ones
blackbeard being the final villain and killing imu should be extremely obvious after godvalley
Wait hold on
Paradise Lost is literally the poem that talks about the fall of man and the temptation of Adam and eve

Blackbeard fans only have to post this
Also in this man's mental walls
Collages are made when you're losing and you have to really really try hard to act like you're winning
I just wanted you to know whether this ends up being right or wrong, I appreciate you writing this out🤝
Please keep this energy when imu dies horribly to teach
^
And oda is called a hack because of it
Does Imu not know about BBs fruit tho
Hes scared of Nika and Nidhöggr but with BB its his Davy lineage that drives him mad
The fruit doesnt have to do anything with it right?
It’s inevitable like Imu said. He knows he’s a Davy Jones victim
They are but we can tell by their actions, along with Imu, that the entire system is a means for social control. Garling is the only one out of the 5 of them that seems to show what its like to come from the culture the systems Imu and the Gorosei created
This is like jehovas witnesses knocking on my door
thanks, but a friend of mine wrote it im just sharin it
Good read
''when'' 😭
People just ignoring the story putting davy jones and joyboy on the same level
thanks for sharing it too bro
FOR REAL
Well yeah Imu will die
BBs fruit was on live stream. he must know of it by now xd
Davy jones got name dropped 15 chapters ago
"Actually you're wrong for pointing out things imu says."
Davy Jones, God Valley, and the power to take the devil’s power doesn’t exist 
Way more than that
Yet he keeps being brought up by imu
Weird
All the way back to Long Ring Long Land
nobody has ever ignored this
There’s a higher chance of Blackbeard and Luffy teaming up lol
buggy I got a garling theory for u imma get u a banger on X twin
Downplaying a true black king smh
They’re both dying by luffys hands
People were talking mad crazy
He’s fighting Joy Boy now
Davy next 
Before those pages dropped
Crazy about what
Nah. Luffy & his friends will do all the work. Blackbeard will swoop in and land the killing blow on Imu with his crew of Pirates
Why would you want dogshit like that
Garling will use the mother flame while Imu is away
This obsession is bordering on mihawk fan level
😭😭😭🐐
Dogshit? Mf READ THE SERIES
Whenever shanks does something they pop out the sewers
I read the series
Another garling master play
Yeah a teamup would be better
Blackbeard truly a master leecher
Your idea is shit no offense but I’ve heard it before
You clearly have not. Because that’s literally what happened with Whitebeard & Trafalgar Law
That’s what he’s supposed to be
exactly. why are ppl ignoring that imu have beef with both davy and joy boy. there is only one big bad thats been ruling the world for 800+ years.
huh didn't notice until now that the tree gets lil demon wings
Blackbeard is the only person that acts like a pirate
Literally joined Whitebeard crew to do that 
They hate what they fail to realize 
Whitebeard has fought off Admirals & Law has fought off Big Mom. Both fatigued and in comes BB to ambush them
Well thats why it would be cooler if something more happened in the grande finale
Also he just fought Law head on
cold pfp
This is like “Luffy fruit won’t be a special one with a different name”
Oh thats what you mean but they were healed
That’s not what happened to law. It happened to whitebeard and it works due to the writing surrounding Blackbeard whitebeard and the theme of legacies. A lot of people want a shitty rehash for the sake of “it would be cool”
resin resin fruit
When its revealed rocks wanted the yami no mi
😭
Thanks
as much as i like the idea of bb being the final villan, oda will def go the luffy & bb vs imu route
Imu and BB can both be beloved characters. it doesn't have to be black and white.
When did I say “it would be cool” I’m stating that there’s an OBVIOUS PATTEN of how Blackbeard launches a fight
One Piece fans if you ask to appraciate one character without the expense of another
Like oh my god you cannot be this dense
why do so many Blackbeard fans want BB to replace Imu only to become a less interesting Imu? let BB be his own unique character smh
True but imu fans only ever talk about downplaying teach
And his place in the story
Reddit! Give this man some gold! 🥇🤣
I already said law and whitebeards circumstances are different. The scenario you presented is ass I’m afraid
Meanwhile oda keeps stomping on them
when it's revealed rocks wanted the hito hito no mi
YC who’s your final villian? and why is it Wakainu 
😭
thank you
Not me thinking that YC’s pfp was an Imu one lol
i usually see the other way around lol
Imu bandwagoners more like
Damn man this channel moving fast
Need to get my eye checked
Lololol
@vital heart In Japanese does Imus Df written differently or carry a different implication

anyone that says BB might not be final villain is hating him?
and here i thought i was a day 1 BB fan 
Nah imu bandwagoners have been doing elite glaze
The more I vote Bb
The more BB hate I’m seeing
Teach is the most dickrode villain in the fandom cease the victim complex
Imu fans barely exist and the ones that do have better things to talk about than bb 😭
I ain’t gonna entertain your ignorance any longer bruh. Have a nice day.
ikr!! i've always loved Blackbeard but i never expected him to be the final villain and i don't see the issue if he's the penultimate villain instead
Have a blessed day
Only now are we gonna start seeing the emergence of real imu "fans"
Teach isn’t even above Doffy and Kat
there’s a lot of Imu fans in this server
No one talks about those two these days
Imu pfp
You should’ve said Sayonara
"imu fans" are pretty much fans of the overarching story i think
Such a missed opportunity
we need more real loki fans
The lot of them are arsalwise and zolos pollos mukbang
What does that have to do with anything
it’s the same both ways to be honest
Whenever you have a pfp of a character people just randomly bring it up to disprove what you say lol
from what I’ve seen