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The moment the flashback started with zero character moments or set up for Usopp should’ve been the ultimate sign he’s done
In what world does Rocks have to do with Usopp
oda finally becomes a good writer
I disagree; Brook was the lynchpin in taking down all of the holy knights
nose
The moment Usopp was low diffed by the cat
Comic relief moment
Netflix pressured him to make vc a yaoi story
im comparing him to the average outcome not the outliers
we say comic relief. Oda was foreshadowing smh
Ok stop being disingenuous it’s embarassing man
It was neg diff
No

I’d still say the others contributed a lot more, usopps actions only served to hurt his allies with or without the idea that he “baited” Imu
he did it once.......kind of. he can do it again (not likely)
We still haven’t learned the SAD and TRAGIC reason Gunko wears her panties out. Prepare to cry…
Why is it red I can’t read this shit
Too lazy to change the color
damn ru colorblind
you gotta learn how to cope properly, people.
i wonder if its possible to make this into a proper polygon
It’s one thing to talk shit to gunko, it’s another to do it then have NOBODY be there to listen other than Brook.
For imu to give little to no reaction to it.
Then take out yourself and Brook in the most disrespectful move by imu
Maybe
Imu Davy and Joyboy were the love triangle

It's just his harem
And worst of all he’s just being a complete hypocrite
why are you pink
i'm in my uwu phase
I need someone to make this into a proper shape
Saturn:
Davy Jones wanted it poly, but imu ruined jt
i didnt consider how davy would factor into it
Sanji jinbe and franky took down a holy knight
Robin managed to hold down sommers long enough for gaban to come in. AND had a great reunion chapter with Saul and some lore digging
hes the third wheel
Lily JoyBoy and Davy were in a polycule. Imu wasn’t invited that’s why he was mad
How does Gunko factor in
Is there any greater sin?
Imu tried dating Saturn but it was toxic so he "cut him off" so to speak
Now he’s gonna make a new polycule with Vivi Luffy and Teach
I hope Imu is a human and this is just a zoan form
Nami was basically just acting as the leader of the group against gunko, protecting the kids
And that’s by far the LEAST relevant of all the characters
Ngl if this is the case I support Imu because he went against a polycule
Idk if I like “Imu is from a devil race” or something like that
Zoro helping against the domi demons and having awesome chemistry with the giants
And finally chopper.
CHOPPER is the lynchpin against the demon curse
Imu being from a devil race isn't too bad. I'd prefer some moon lore mixed in if I can. However, Imu coming into contact with a demon realm ala DOOM is neat.
I prefer a contract with the earth god
give me Doom or give me death oda
Anime implies imu isn’t alone
anime is weeb trash though. don't do anime oda
I prefer black and white anime like gentlemen
Theres an SBS question I’m trying to find but I can’t remember where it was. I know its past drum island and before the time skip.
The question was “Why everyone is able to understand each other” or “why they all speak the same language” or something like that
Does anyone know what chapter its in I can’t find it for the life of me
I hate when people ask lame SBS questions
does zunesha poop?
jail time
death time
true
You should hate Oda for answering them , he could just not include them lol
The answer is the reason I liked it so much it was something like “because one piece is a story about people’s dreams” and it gets me every time
Ill also hate them cuz they also put in their one chance at a questiona dn they chose that
if everyone was asking good questions oda would only have good questions to go around
L children then
u gotta mix in a good question with some bullshit so oda will answer it
thats how they got the shamrock question answered
I mean
Its really oda fault
We sadly cant choose what he answers
lol
but if every question was good he would be forced to include good ones
Yea
L kids
One mf gotta ask what wedding shanks went to and the other mf gotta ask if imu ever shits and piss
fr
truth nuke
I ate oda
calling the cops on you spice
I FOUND IT
eating people is illegal in japan, it goes against the japanese principle of 人を食べない
Chapter 232 is the sbs I was looking for
COOK
Is it legal in other countries then?
idk i need to see their principles
How much stronger do you guys think Luffy gets from this point
Like I don’t think he gets too much stronger from this point in the story I guess he could master gear five but besides that IDK
i dont see him not beign the strongest guy ever so he has to at least achieve haki knot at egghead power
and he's not even close atm
i feel like its pretty easy to just give him an arbitrary haki boost
maybe give him an extra form of gear 5
Feel like having multiple forms of gear 5 kinda defeats the purpose
i dont see a new form too
i can see a new haki tho
or he gets a new understanding of haki
maybe a few blooms
idk id rather a fruit evolution than a haki one
i'm kinda tired of fruit stuff
he could like understand it better but i hope he stays just g5
i dont think luffy will get another gear just think he will just get haki buffs
Mhm
Gear 6 will be the edgy form piratefolks has been waiting for
I genuinely think Luffy will get better at using gear fifth, I imagine Joyboy was way more proficient in its capabilities
All he needs is better stamina and slightt better haki
Luffy I can see getting a Haki boost
Without spoiling another manga, where users of a certain ability is not worth killing because it just incarnates elsewhere. So Imu needs to seal Luffy in order to not have to chase have the hito hito nomi from the beginning again
For some reason it took the reappearance of the Nidhogg for Imu to make a move, he must have realised where the fruit user was by the end of Wano
Something like he needed both to be at the same place at the same time. However, it could just be Oda’s need to always up the stakes with a stronger opponent as the story progresses and not wanting to confront the straw hats with Shanks or BB too early
each day i fear more about this two fruits thing rocks said
i hope its not like
a door at laughtale that only opens if the user of the nika and the user of the nidhogg touch it at the same time or some bs
i need an elaborate plan that works because those fruits are working together
if it's just a seal or some bs like that i'm going to be very mad
luffy gets to laughtale and a haki ghost shows up and says 'nika...we have been waiting' and it opens up a door
😡
the poneglyphs and sailing should be the only limitations for laughtale
anyone should be able to get there
i'm talking about roger too
like they got there but were too early
imagine the early part is because the nika fruit had not appeared
"They'll never resurface"
this would get me mad
the idea of only roger having visited lodestar still annoys me
Top 10 things that were flat out wrong
anyone should be able to get there in theory
youre telling me in 800 years only a SINGLE person made it there, and now in the next 20 another will
its supposed to be the thing that informs you about the poneglyphs and how to get to laughtale, defeats the purpose if not a single other soul has ever gotten there
i'm not that mad about it
it makes sense if they werent trying as much
roger did start the great age of pirates
We have no idea it could be surrounded by a mile of whirlpools for all we know
idk it annoys me since laughtale is supposed to be the unreachable place
why should lodestar be too, everyone should eventually get there by log pose anyway
I'm sure there's something ridiculous that makes it hard to go there, otherwise someone would've just popped in looking for supplies or something
i still headcanon it as basically an empty island with a stone on it lol
Bellamy supremacy

I think lodestar is the island shanks went to the wedding at
I do think we only have like 2-3 arcs left
and lodestar will be one
I think Shanks got there too
okay i think its possible the wedding was buggy and that bride
that bride = alvida or somene else possibly
maybe shanks. some havre put that idea forth
also, maybe other pirates like BM and Kaido already found out what the road poneglyphs are for without having to go to Lodestar
stupid ohara spoiling the surprise
TBH im glad robin killed them
spoilers are fucked up
in a world of prophecies, archeaologists should just keep their findings to themselves
I started season 2 opla with my dad and he calls them the fashion pirates
Huh?
they spoiled the poneglyphs for everyone else
or i assume it was them who caused the knowledge to leech out
Hm?
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nani
Don't you hate it when oda spoils op with each chapter he draws?
What did he do this time?
did everyone think i meant the youtuber ohara
i didnt, my iq is very high
dolf spreadning misinformation
アロハ皆さん!
dfpojsdajfopij
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they're talking about mihawk vs shanks again in manga..
mihawk fans are always desperate
Yes
Hello awesome denizens of #also-manga
How did we like the chapter?
Are we rocking with Imus design or do we think its a whiff?
Zoro was very smart this chapter
Zoros smart in every chapter hes top 10 smartest straw hats for a reason
Oh yeah imu was also in this chapter, was alright
Fuck zoro is so cool
Who?
what did you not like about it
Too busy
what do you rate blobmu
I think either remove the tattoos or simplify the clothing
What are you busy with rokaya
u crazy the tattoos add so much aura
But all the patterns on the clothes and cape PLUS the tattoos
They do
But I’m saying it’s like two cool things separately, and when you put it together it feels like you’re just adding things for the sake of adding things
Busy hating one piece amiright
Like Loki’s got a lot of tattoos, imagine he also had striped pants and a cape with a bunch of designs on top
But keeping the pants and cape simple I BELIEVE don’t interfere with the tats
just dont give him stupid colors that clash you cant even notice all the details
muted colors and not much contrast
but ofc oda is gonna make him look like a clown
I hope the official is a little more detailed with that panel on the right
@hazy turret @digital spear Fun fact I just realized when reading One Piece volumes in Vietnamese with my partner.
When Kid gets annoyed by Charloss purchasing Camie, instead of saying “what a farce”, he instead says “It’s time for my afternoon tea, let’s bounce” 
And it’s not even a figure of speech in the language or something, bro truly just waned to drink some tea lol
Thanks to Vietnamese Eustass, we now know without a shadow of a doubt that the auction was taking place after 12PM but before 6PM. Even though I’m sure that was already quite obvious, but thanks Captain 👏 👏
Okay
The clothing is buns
Genuinely everyone hated hybrid Kaido until we saw it a bunch. It’ll pass.
i liked it :)
Literal perfection.
Mother fricker
Mother hecker
Did I say I hated Imu?
No
I just think the clothing is buns
He's dressed like a impidimp!
I think also the design changed a bit over time, where it was a lot better later
When will we get the colors for Imu?
the devil of one piece is officially revealed on easter sunday, interesting
Imagine if it released on October 31st.
Here are my final war fight theories. For clarification, I got both ideas' inspirations from this chapter. Here goes!
(1) Chopper vs Venusjuro will be Chopper's final war opponent.
(2) Kid vs Shamrock will be Kid's final war opponent.
I can clarify the Chopper v Venusjuro one if you guys would like
@odd rune SINCE WHEN WERE YOU A MOD
HOW DID U GET PROMOTED
LMFAO
:D
When are you getting mod meek
Yeah well who’s to say this won’t
Who's?
You think the swordsman isn’t going to fight Zoro?
Finally meek is popping off. That second theory makes so much sense, kudos to you. It will be glorious 🔥
Zoro's final fight is either adult Domi Reversi'd S-Hawk or Domi Reversi'd Mihawk lol
Shamrock is already being set up to go against Loki, sorry Kid you'll have to wait.
LOL
Youre a funny person
Loki would one shot Shamrock
You're wrong.
Loki's final opponent is either Imu himself or the Red Line
Nah.
Shouldn’t Loki’s final opponent be whatever the “serpent of hellfire” is? Isn’t that what the mural depicts anyways
I've seen ideas that Shamrock is the hellfire serpent, so...
I'm sure that Oda will cook with it.
by PrinceUtopia
This is literally just reading any Meek message
I don't think zoro can fight reverse mihawk
It adds ambiguity, I think you really want that one to be a pure honor duel where nothing at all interferes and both have the ability to go 100%
I think he can if he find mihawk and start a fight.
9/10
Today
Everyone agrees that Imu is the best design in all of One Piece right?
I am glad we could come to that agreement universally.

wdym?
u forgot someone
!animo
Next episode comes out on <t:1775404800:F> <t:1775404800:R> (Hiatus time)
Same.
for the akainu fans
by the Akainu fans
sakazuki is getting slimed by SHAMROCK,GARP
Would change things for sure
Lmao
I guess it would be Nidhoggr vs Jormangundr?
who have hebi hebi no mi:jormungadr
???
Potentially, but maybe not though.
We're speculating that Shamrock has it.
Hellfire seems distinct, but possible
Then again Nidhogg is the lightning dragon
so..
Oda might just be mixing things
Oda made the Nidhoggr into a lightning dragon, maybe he'll make Jormangundr into the hellfire serpent.
Yes
Oh i didn't see that you said it, lol
idts shamrock has to be a haki man tbh
some of the replies 
I think Shamrock will have Haki, Devil Fruit as well as his Cerberus sword.
Why does he have to be?
Basically an amped up Shanks, lol
So far, first thing he's done is summon a creature from a sword
shanks is a haki man too and shamrock sword already have a mythic zoan why do he even need fruit gng
Kinda the point?
He's what Shanks would be if he received the benefits of the WG?
nah haki only and sword already have a mythic zoan man
shamrock is probably doomed to be a comparative bum unfortunately, holy knight association nerf 
nah
seriously speaking though, I don't think shamrock's haki will be as strong as shanks's haki to balance him having the cerberus sword and immortality over shanks
I don't think immortality will be as relevant
Definitely not, Oda has made sure to dinstinguish him from the rest of them.
He did that by sending him away from Elbaph at the start of it all, even when he talks about Shamrock in the SBS you can tell that he is an important character, not just for being a goober in the God Knights. 
I think that Oda even told his editor once that the chapter were Shamrock's introduction took place is far too important to reveal now and it's going to only make sense after the one piece is found.
Seeing the current events
Immortality will probably not be that significant
So it'll be more combat oriented
nah he have the potential of that lvl of haki i think he might have that lvl gng
yeah I wasn't really being serious, I do expect him to be shanks's equal or at least a serious threat to top-tiers
TBF, this was 15 yrs ago
Oh, I missunderstood you then.
But they said IF Shanks got the Imu amps he would be = to Shamrock
So like
unless
SHamrock
ain't growing
and i think the jormungandr fruit eater transformed and was petrified using some kind of power and now is GRANDLINE and the fruit eater might br from joyboy crew/allies tbh
which is weird bcuz he did all the way to his mid 20s(when he was a lower rank btw)
I don't rly see him being a "fraud"
or wtv
I don't think that the hellfire serpent is the redline.
jormungandr is A SERPENT SAID TO BE BIG AS WHOLE WORLD he is wrapped around the realms acc to norse mytho so i think that
This also implies that there's a second power which he didn't use against Loki. 
for sure, the cerberus moves on its own
would be weird to have a weapon that only functions when u aren't fighting as ur main power
or some shit
like that just limits what u can do
Yeah, it's just lame if the equivelant to Jormangundr in One Piece is a giant rock structure and not an actual giant leviathan snake.
atp
yh but if he is petrified and got released somehow so ig we might see a fucking leavithan snake man! IMU and the 20king had some POWER to do that tbh
@mossy plank was banned!
Reason: silly idiot
lmao
We dk
I guess, but i'd prefer if it's a similair case to Nidhoggr where it's a fruit that has laid dormant for long and eventually got a new user to eat it, which in this case i believe would be Shamrock.
@balmy field ty for ping but feel free to mention someone on the sidebar in the future so not everyone gets pinged 
skypiea peaked these arguements man
roger that
🙏
The themes and such

@gloomy tree
Grandpa max did not die for this
what is Oda cooking up 🔥🍿
I won't forgive oda if imu is forced to return to mariejois due to health and BB then swoops in and ends him while he's vulnerable
none care for Lord Poseidon as I do
I will
get that bum out of my story
there's three things IMO that ensure imu needs to be kept around anyway:
- the connection to the nefertari
- the void century flashback
- the takedown of the WG
You won't have to worry about this ever happening
bad takes as usual
Imu starting to get a lil' interesting
if BB does that itll be off screen
not my fault Imus got 0 aura
hopefully
imu taken down offscreen by BB would be something
whenever imu goes back somebody goin with him
he was more threatening in 1 chapter (lulusia) than BB in all of post-timeskip
don’t worry Teach won’t go into mariejois until he grabs one of the ancient weapon first .. so there’s still time to enjoy Imu in the meantime lol
why yall hating on BB every day man😂
release the BB files
he's a fat bum whose feats look like shit for a top-tier
I mean you say that but that resulted in 0 deaths of real people
but yes that was by far his high point
me too bro :(
saturn and cobra are also on his kill-list but ok
the 2 times imu hasn't looked like a complete bum are his introduction and nuking lulusia
Imu might get another
lmao saturn & cobra ? lmaoo that’s low
BB got Whitebeard tho lol
not a hot take icel
w take
Saturn is literally on his team and cobra is an old guy in a wheelchair
as opposed to BB finishing off a 0.5 HP whitebeard with his entire crew backing him?
Not a 1v1 but if we just comparing the bodies lol
that’s better than Cobra .. you can also add Wang Zhi & Abealolm to Teach list
I thought you misspelled incel
I see what it is now tho I can't even lie
yall think joyboy was cracking lili and imu got jelly
Imu might get another here tho
religiously
it's not even confirmed wang zhi is dead or if BB personally killed absalom
but they aren't
kept the strawhat bcoz bro was in the cuck chair loll
lmao you think BBP would leave wang zhi alive ? cmon now
it’s a hostile takeover
OMG THAT WHY HE SITS ON THE THRONE
lemme cook fr
there isn't a single line even implying he's dead, so why would I just assume until some kind of confirmation is given?
Ole JB put his hat on Imu head before he had Imu watch
who told you he sits on the throne?
we’re told Teach took down Wang Zhi … so it comes down to whether you think Teach would spare his life or kill him after taking him down
the empty throne, im joking anyway lol
right, it's supposed to be a secret
we know how oda does the old gen .. he kills them off in the new era
so again, an assumption lol
okay so Absalom , WB & Thatch is still more lmao
anyway this went off on a tangent, the point is that I don't care to see BB as any kind of story-ending villain with the way oda has handled him till now
like removing that one doesn’t help your case
WORLD IS COOKED IF THIS HAPPENS 😹
right like
everybody saying usopp gonna die
nah, it'll be a former roger pirate
if anybody
I’m on a similar boat
oh but if I include lulusia lmao
if usopp dies i will not forgive oda 🙁
He didnt even kill Moria and y'all are expecting him to kill Wang Zhi lol
Oda did the most obvious foreshadowing this arc for how everything is gonna play out … might as well prepare yourself to be upset with Oda when it happens lol
BB has inherited a warped version of the will of his father
an entire country wiped off the map and I'm supposed to believe absalom's offscreen death matters more?
I think Imu’s story is starting to bloom much beyond what BB got in terms of impact
Hachinosu was a prison island, Blackbeard likes to own slaves. Add 2 and 2.
Wang Zhi will be a prisoner slave too
I dont even slander Garling usually but you need to be stopped
w name
only notable people we saw him not kill were people he needed for something .. we saw when he doesn’t need you that he will try to kill you like he did Law & Boa .. unless he needed Wang for something, he’s not gonna just keep him alive
Wang Zhi is WASHED
oda was also the one who had both whitebeard and vegapunk talk (in some way) with their dying speeches about a war to follow the finding of the one piece
in what timeline does absalom matter
exactly, he doesn't
I slander Larling
lmao i’m so glad you said that cause multiple japanese translators have been said that WB never said the war is after the one piece .. he said both things will happen
and what about vegapunk's message?
what did he need Moria for? just face it, he usually doesnt kill
plz don’t 🥺
VP message was whoever finds the one piece will decide the fate of the world .. again he never said the war is after the one piece
who are these multiple japanese translators?
he wanted Moria on his crew
alright I won't... ||for now...||
Sandman , Artur & Dawn and Dusk
he was mocking him
dawn and dusk has several videos talking about it
he wanted Moria to read the poneglpyhs but he got pudding for that now
are you referring to Oda's statement? because I have never seen another interpretation of what Whitebeard said.
there’s no evidence at all that he was mocking him
how am I supposed to interpret this then, and where are these statements from JP translators?
theres no indication that Moria knows anything about that lol
no i’m talking about WB statement in Marineford
Idk how you can take in all the themes and story beats and not see the value of Blackbeard as a final villain
Not agree he is necessarily
Moria was a Kozuki
All the Kozuki know
But to see nothing there is insane
I agree lol
i dont think anyone is saying he has nothing
he wasnt a real kozuki, we know this for sure now
go watch any dawn and dusk video about the one piece , how the story ends or blackbeard and they talk about it every time how WB isn’t saying one thing happens after the other
right but they loved him like one of their own
it's not that I don't see the potential, I don't personally find it satisfying for BB to be the final villain as things currently stand though
yes but the poneglyph knowledge is meant for the successor of the shogun, not anybody else lol
yeah saying it’s nothing there is just bias/agenda
I can acknowledge that there is a possibility he is the last obstacle though
Luffy and Blackbeard will have to team up in order to take down Imu either way
no one said that there's nothing, there's not enough to give him that gravitas now that the long held threads of the darkness that overcame the world post the void is coming into the open
like the overarching story all the way from the void century till now concerns imu, the king of the world and the one who's been ruling in secret, it goes beyond the one piece and piracy
G5 Luffy vs Imu should play out exactly like an early episode of Tom and Jerry
usopps enough to take down imu
What I mean is, Blackbeard fits so well with the themes and beats that’s made OP compelling that I don’t get how you can fuck with OP and not feel any compulsion by Teach. I’m not necessarily saying you’re wrong, it’s just odd to me cause a lot of what makes Teach compelling is what’s baked into making the story compelling, and he does so in a very interesting way you typically don’t see for a shonen final villain
peopel really think Oda had Imu kill Teach entire family , Imu recognize Teach as Davy Jones , Imu talks about fearing Davy Jones , just for Teach to never get revenge … lmao i love this
Tera wasn't saying that though. Shit is starting to ramp up and if it keeps going then I might be further convinced that Imu is the final villain as opposed to Blackbeard
and since he's carrying the will of davy jones, as confirmed in panel, he's simply not being projected as what was held before
Yeah I understood
But even if Imu is the final villain, I still find Blackbeard's dynamic with Luffy more interesting
And it'll probably always be that way just because of what Blackbeard is in relation to Luffy
I just think that’s a wild takeaway
You're placing so much importance in the Davy side of it, you're not taking into account that Joyboy also is supposed to be there. It'll be Luffy and Blackbeard vs Imu.
i like teach, i like what he contributes to the story and what he's in relation to luffy and how he contrasts luffy's narrative and journey but there is a larger darkness unravelling itself
it all depends on whether laughtale is at the end of the series or not i think
Also Imu has 800 years worth of lore backing them up, while Blackbeard has a vengeance story backing him up.
yeah i’ve been arguing that it’ll be teach & luffy .. i’m talking about davy side of it now for the people acting like Teach won’t be involved with their downfall
what if Luffy must team up with BB to defeat Imu for good
because if laughtale comes before the final war then it gets sketchy for blackbeard being final villian since he is gunning for it too, but if it is the last thing that happens in the series it strengthens his case
i think this is fair
Oda didn’t have Imu wipe out Teach entire family in front of Teach for Teach to not get his get back
teach ultimately, similar to mihawk in relationship to zoro, is going to lose
we know that's inevitable
Like the fact that Teach was the only figure to actually win at Marineford recontextualizes the entire pre-skip
You realize how many things happened because you’ve been reading Teach’s story to victory in the background of Luffys atory to getting crushed
In all fairness Garling was the one who killed Xebec at the end of the day.
They shit fascinating to me
yeah I think this story for a long time has been building to a greater climax than just finding the one piece, and how would it be satisfying if the one who's been oppressing the world for centuries isn't there for that final conflict?
yeah but even Eris knew it was ultimately Imu which is why she said what she said to rocks
teach doesnt know that garling did the blow to him
so Teach is gonna know the same
By making that final conflict rhe question of what world will be created now that the world is free to create one
at the end of the day, the day's gotta end
I find this way more compelling that just “saving the day” because a lot of Shonen who deal with a protagonist fighting a system DONT address how they’re actually going to change it
this reminds me of another popular shonen, and that's why I said I see the potential
Show me then.
Because Whitebeard's final words are pretty clear here, the World Government fears the day the One Piece is found and the world is turned upside down. The WG fears the man who will someday arise and shoulder centuries of history during this war, history that by design can only be discovered alongside the One Piece because its all at Laugh Tale.
i fucking love this line
I just don't want to 800 years worth of lore behind Imu to be trampled on, just because Blackbeard needs revenge.
If OP goes the route of actually addressing what changing the system will look like instead of glossing it over as a happily ever after that will set it apart from a ton of young adult and pre-teen fantasy media
yeah last time Teach saw of Garling and his pops was him getting cooked by his pops so he wouldn’t think anything of Garling in that way .. last thing he saw of Rocks was a Domi Rocks
The Davy clan is interesting sure, but i don't find them remotely as interesting as all that which Imu has been through.
Blackbeard and Luffy fighting to determine what the world will look like after Imu offers us that
but thats the thing, this is happening, its just not happening post the fall of Imu
it is happening before it, right before it
Imu has essentialy been there, through the entire process of shaping their world.
It’s kinda silly to assume that 800 year history won’t be relevant to Teach
I also find it kinda funny to say we haven’t gotten enough Davy
I mean it's not as directly relevant as it is to Imu, as Imu has lived through it all.
lol
I think that Imu is more interesting.
They've been built up as this mysterious monarch which has held the reigns for so many years.
We literally only have a design for Imu and some vague personality traits from his archetype
It's weird to be hyped about them?
The clash of Blackbeard and Luffy will decide what is to be done about Imu, the WG and this whole system of oppression that governs the world and more specifically who will be doing it. Blackbeard's idea of it won't prevail.
That’s kinda what I mean
You guys get how Imu has been baked indirectly through tje story
youre just expecting it to happen after Imu, I don't believe that makes any sense
But you don’t realize Oda can reveal he’s been doing that with the Davy too?
That wouldn't be satisfactory to me.
Final Battle: SHs vs BBPs, Revs vs Imu + HKs
man i love one piece 🙂↔️
i find the idea that's interesting in that imu himself is fighting against fate, of all this being inevitable, of history that he changed and made coming to a head, he's fighting against the very fate that he built for luffy to break
It should be told through Imu as he is the one who has lived through it all.
You’ve preemptively decided it won’t be satisfying to you, even though you haven’t seen it executed yet
Which, mind you, can include Oda revealing plot points you were interested in interconnected in ways you didn’t realize
Which is literally the bread ans butter of OPs structure btw
Just do it through Imu.
That’s just how the series work at this point
yuh the darkness fruit may very well be able to give BB the abilities that Imu has
The Davy clan will be apart if Imu told it too.
It doesn't have to be through the Davy clan which it's told.
You can’t raise the question of how to replace the system adequately with Imu
Imu only provides the question of, can we keep doing what’s happening em
Rn*
by suckin em out of Imu
i'm not interested in bringing myself into this fucking stupid topic that's discussed ad infinitum but imu's story as a character is backed up by 900 years of systemic darkness that he himself instituted and managed
Imu doesnt have an alternative to the solution to raise the question of “what should we do”
i dont think teach can suck that shit out of imu bro ngl
i dont think he has that much in him
Imu is just the problem
Imu is the reason for why the world is how it is, and how it's been for 800 years.
The story's antagonist has always been Imu.
A shonen ending by uprooting the problem and then fighting over what the solution should be
That’s way more interesting
yeah his entire dream of becoming king of the world relied on him getting the yami yami before doing anything else and he would’ve gave up the dream if he didn’t find it . that’s how important it is to his goal
it will be the other way around
u think imu's coc is too strong?
If Blackbeard gained Imu's power that would be literally just be temu Imu.
these 2 pages live in my head rent free and inform so much of what imu's mindspace is
It would be so dumb.
Blackbeard and Luffy will clash over who gets to uproot the problem, and it can only be one at the end who gets to do it
But you gotta understand that that same 900 years of institution and darkness is the backbone for every character’s experience, and now Teach is just as intimately tied to it so it works both ways
brother's cooking
nobody says he’s Temu WB so why is this logic being used with Imu ? lol
Because Imu's power is even more unique than Whitebeards was.
Imu is being played up as the literal devil.
That’s not as interesting as the world uprooting their shared problem and then the two top candidates have a clash of ideals about what to do after tbh
They've got the most unique powers as of right now.
but Oda has set up already that Teach power is gonna play a huge role in being involved with Imu power
that's not set up
honestly, Luffy's bigger clash over what is to be done after Imu will actually be with Dragon. I reckon Dragon will lean towards reform, while Luffy's the type to destroy it all
That would be interesting.
Not if something happens like revealing that Imu was absorbed by the Awakening
it is .. saying Teach dream of becoming king of the world relied on the yami yami and teach saying it can take the devils power (not devil fruits but devil )
That would be so shit if you ask me.
Make it so that Teach is able to resist it and that allows him to show us a new dimension of the power that Imu couldnt
Dragon is gonna have to find someone to build him a new house
the world is gonna be destroyed
guaranteed
teach's dream of becoming king of the world is ultimately a dream that is not going to come to fruition, luffy is the one who is in the way there
everytime nika appears this happens
yeah I dont think Luffy is going to leave anything of the world that existed before
Again, you’re making wholesale conclusions before you actually see it play out
Oda can reveal that the personality traits that define Imu as a villain now are the same ones that made him lose control. Oda can start him off as a flawed hero so him losing control is a tragedy
it will .. and after he does .. Luffy will have to stop him and shape the world in his own eyes
The red line crumbling will be proof of that.
You guys gottta be more imaginative
what must we imagine
I wouldn't be interested in seeing Blackbeard take the spot Imu has held, it's that simple.
#phase2
dragons
When is the ne ep coming out?
I think2 hrs
Nice
today in a couple of hours like 3
I'm so excited for the new episode.
i really really really dont want Imu to be a sad backstory villain
It's going to be Shanks against Barto, right?
Imu may have lived thru history, but the genealogical and spiritual descendants of his former contemporaries have lived in the world that he wrought, un/knowingly carrying on their own centuries-long histories
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Song for Miku's 16th birthday
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Well we can go back to the base of this and I’ll say, idk how you guys come to that conclusion
I cant even remember what happened in the first chapter of the arc
yo
Cant wait
Davys Promise will be fulfilled by the one carrying davys will ….
which we now have confirmation by Imu himself that it is indeed Teach )
You remove Teach’s presence, the entire story is different
Yasopp episode
do i have to watch it on crunchyroll surely there’s other free places to watch it
oh yeah episode tonight
anyone know?
yea i think that’s where it comes out but there’s other websites
what tonight episode about ? no elbaf yet right ?
someone else would know better then me
Lmfao, if you'd remove Imu's presence the story wouldn't even be there.
yes first Elbaf episode
is tonight episode the one with shanks/Barto & teach ?
Right im not disputing that
But that just goes to show
It’s like I said before
That and I think first Legoland episode
Maybe imagining outcomes that arent being actively hinted at isnt all that good though.
BB fans arent even seeing the mega obvious kraken elements to Blackbeard's current design smh, instead they're trying to force him into an alley that he just doesn't fit into
Imu is only literally just becoming a character
YES ! so we actually do arrive to elbaf this episode
A kraken is a sea devil
Imu was just born
Tbh
Btw someone knows where the shanks haki knots therory is coming from lol
No point in being a kraken via the sea water weakness, unless that shit gets uplifted
Imu was a silhouette teasing an archetype for so long, and folks are like “yup that’s my final villain”
I am definitely not trying to see Imu go out in this arc lol
That would be anti-climactic and disappointing
I don’t understand how Imu is satisfactory but someone who’s actively shaped the ongoing plot hasnt done enough for the merit to be seen
Luffy and Teach have already been pulling the world to and fro all atory
its a sea monster, not a sea devil
Water weakness aside tho i wouldnt mind a hippo zoan

me personally, I'd be fine with either or both appearing as final villain(s)
https://x.com/musingsofohara/status/2040698995106816384?s=46
blackbeard should get a different DF for his 3rd power
do bb fans not see this a repetitive boss? cuz the only way bb is gonna be able to compete with a post imu fight luffy is by stealing imu’s fruit. but then luffy is just fighting imu again????
“Deposing Imu and now we fight over the new era” is a lot less generic than “remove the tyrant” is all
and a kraken is the greatest enemy of a pirate, maybe that should be considered more by pirate manga believers...
fighting imu powers twice would be so stupid😂
But subjectivity aside
Not necessarily
Imma be honest gang
Yall ignore the potential of personality absorption
Oda can easily say Imu lost his personality to the sea devil
Then have it so Blackbeard doesnt
And that makes the power used in different ways, or teach brings more out of it
Indeed
OP fans will raise a question like it’s a checkmate
And it’s a question you can answer just being a tiny bit imaginative lol
Often really easily
but that is going against the other idea with the sea devil, with it being an overarching nemesis of humanity itself dating back milleniums
What
So, Blackbeard will be able to wield a power greater than Imu has wileded it for 800 years.
its the biggest bad of the entire world
You just ignored the part where I said Imu the man lost the coin toss when he awakened?
it existed before piracy existed
That’s not something you continuously do
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You either resist the awakening or you don’t
Once you awaken and you’re good, you’re good
Once you’re fucked, you’re fucked
consistent art direction and movement 🥹
by giving Blackbeard full control over it, youre reducing that role of it and turning it into just a zoan
Imu is as close to the devil as we're going to come.
#truth
We learned that in the SBS that just came out
well, imu is the devil
the distinction of Imu's ability being called "Devil's Fruit" as opposed to [insert name] devil fruit implies to me that it isn't a devil fruit, but something that came before dfs
the first world has just expanded this story beyond just being about piracy, and its made Nika into a liberator of all of humanity
I think that part is going to be addressed through Imu as well
Damn the og opening music is back
what can Blackbeard really add there by taking the fruit? nothing lol
Imu calling Luffy as Nika was very interesting as well, since before they've said Joyboy
yeah
Even the fact that Imu knows about Nidhoggr might suggest that he is from the first world after all.
I mean Nidhoggr wasn't wielded since then right?
Loki was the first in ages.
If not imu, then mu and the nerona family
yeah supposedly, Loki seems to be the first Nidhoggr since the God of War Elbaf's time
Mu is the earth god
Bro finally discovered the truth
Well Theres the potential that Imu and his power didnt come about until the second world
Oda can make it so that Imu finessed the power from a Davy
I think the Davy clan believing in their own narratives is not proof of anything
This Odimaru guy started off weak because Odas commented multiple times that finding the OP is the conclusion
notice how Xebec didnt even know what a Nika is?
I mean yeah it's pretty odd for us to doubt in Imu as they've lived through the ages which Xebec speaks of as legend, Imu knows who was the king and who wasn't back then as they've lived through it all.
Today our Lord rises it's a special day that every one should pray to because huzzah the sun gods season 2 starts today! It's the rise of the sun god!
I didn’t say anything that requires this
you know for me if the OP comes last then Blackbeard is the final villian, but if it doesn’t then it’s Imu
For all we know Davy Jones might be hailed as a king inside of the Davy clan specifically, who saught power outwards but didn't get it.
Xebec is a believer of the Will of Davy, a believer in that narrative. Its not the definitive truth, its not meant to be.
And that's why the Davy clan crowns them as the rightful king of the world.
and it’s looking like the OP will come last
Imu is also a liar and manipulator that runs his fascism by snuffing out the truth of the world
Trusting IMU is insane work
how active do i have to be to get that pink colour for my in server pfp
Especially when he’s a belligerent child
Equally as insane as trusting Xebec who hasn't been there when it happened.
Davy Jones was a prince in the Ancient Kingdom who left to sail the world. He was then Domi Reversi'd into using the ancient weapons against the 20 kings and later gained the power of the Nika to defend himself and his allies
You can pick the big mom pirates role
Imu lived through it, you can't take that away from them.
I didn’t trust Rocks
What I said wasn’t based on anything Rocks said
I wouldnt trust Imu, but the Davy narrative is beyond doubtful given their ignorance of Nika
#role-menu @cyan lotus
the clear central figure here
so are you a Sweet General
You can call me a bedroom attendant
oh?
There you go
bro went doffy role
if this is true, Luffy n BB might begrudgingly team up against Imu
I wonder what Doflamingo will do going forwards, since he clearly isn't going to rot in Impel Down all day.
I think he’s been manipulating Magellan
hell yeah
Definitely looks like it.
^
🌗🌗🌗🌗
Dofy has low-key been brainwashing Magellan this entire time lol
this is... ONE PIECE! 👊 👊
Magellan legit asked Dofy his input during VPs speech
As soon as Doflamingo is out his strings will be firmly attached to Magellan.
Damn, magellan still gotta move the prisoners
There’s a bunch of scenes where Dofy is talking and Magellan just has “…” speech bubbles

i dont think magellan is that weak willed
renegade magellan 👀 v
Davy D. Jones might just be the same dude as Joyboy, is all I'm saying
it's so funny how Doflamingo is just laughing like a madman in every panel we see him in.
I mean probably because it's starting to add up
They will surely meet again.
Megellen ant no idiot
Granted this honestly has alotta meaning but i think the main one is the red line
BB and Luffy Teaming Up 
More like Dofy is that skilled tbh. The devil’s honey-dripped silver tongue
I think this is going beyond just Devil Fruits, if Imu was taken over by The Devil (or the Earth God as is speculated), that means that ancient entity that stood against Nika is truly back.
Blackbeard taking the ability and just suppressing that aspect is counterproductive to the idea there
The WG dont fw unity so they split everyone apart
Keep in mind, Luffy and BB will NEVER team up
Then luffy breaks it and everyone is closer again
"The world is going to end..!"
Doflamingo: "FU FU FU FU FU..! I TOLD YOU ALL ALONG..!"
Laboon upscale 
#ightbet
Bro missed everything in the past arc lmao
🤫
They shall never resurface 😏
Luffy and everyone else be jumping Imu until they get on 1hp, then BB spawns in and steal's Imu's fruit
I don't think BB will take Imu fruit or wants it
I don't think Imu has a fruit.
He wants that throne
In what universe will Luffy team up with the guy who killed his brother
Er I should say " power"
Doffy seemingly wanted to use Law so he could basically become Imu
I wonder what Doffy would've done differently than what Imu does
Probably next to nothing, he just wants power.
Most likely has a god mythical zoan, one which BB will thirst for
Doflamingo is jealous of Imu.
😡😡😡
I don't think so.
no dofla slander allowed
fair enough
Though I think, if anything, Doffy would've destroyed the whole world immediately lmao
wonder if Oda will surpass Doffy with Imu
Not rearly what BB did lead to aces death but aces dumb ass followed him around and tbh no v. Didn't kill ace sakazuki did yes bb helped by handing him over but remember BB was planning on killing Luffy he didn't kill ace
I don't think so, he would've just ruled it like he did Dressrosa i assume.
This is such an important conversation that gets constantly overlooked, Xebec and the Davy don't seek to tear down the world as we know it like Nika does, they want to conquer it. They aren't even aware of Nika, let alone his ideology that Luffy also embodies. This is why Blackbeard will be failing, because they dont have the correct idea here.
But he does know about joy boy
Ah see you fucked up
Oda can reveal that Imus actually been the one suppressing the true potential by losing his personality to the awakening and Teach will reach it by retaining his personality and being even more compatible
So to Xebec he could just know Nika as joy boy rather
That's a viable option too, but
He said he wanted the destruction of the world, from the CDs that threw him out to the commoners he feels that he's above
Luffy in impel down accused BB fully responsible of Ace's situation, not only that but BB and Luffy are shown as clear parallels
Ace wasn't dead yet lol
Yeah he wants to destroy the Celestial Dragon society as they wronged him, so he can take over in their stead.
I accept
yeah in the story, sure. but imu is still a bum
The fact that Elders said teach is the first in history to eat two fruits goes to show teach is special in ways even Imu isn’t btw
Cause it sounds like Imu cant do that from how they spoke
if only goat dofla knew how much of bum imu was
Impel Down showed us that Luffy will team up with villains if necessary
Blackbeard is pure evil, in what universe would Luffy want to team up with that guy
Appearantly Imu doesn't need it, as they already rule.
bro showed weakness his first proper appearance
Plus, Imu seems to have far more power than those two fruits grant Blackbeard even.
Imu can give out parts of their power to loyal servants who are eternally bound to them, lol
Plus, making them immortal as a bonus.
It seems he knows about the secret of the holy land
And its “rotting” or some shit like that
That’s what everyone says when they can’t do something cool
I don't think I'm morally a fan of Imu, but ain't no way he can't fight 😭
fight imu yeah no dofla would get whooped for sure
but i love hearing imu slander
What do you think about Kuzan by the way. 
ai
cold
Strings fit him perfectly, lol.
some fodder VA has one
fr
i rmb watching the riku scene for the first time omg i came
oda is such a good writer
you WHAT
tmi
not villains that capture his grandpa, responsible for the death of his brother and harms innocent civillians.
he came to the realization that oda is such a good writer
What do you guys think will be the official name of Imu’s fruit today
Don't think Luffy know or caress Garp got captured lmao
“Fruit of the Devil”
He can be more compatible and retain his personality, but again, that goes against the idea of the Devil being actually potentially back.
I just don't think thats the idea Oda is going for here, he's either hinting at Imu being the same entity from the First World that was around when Nika and Niddhoggr were, or he's hinting at him being possessed by it atleast.
probably just the devil devil fruit
Devil Fruit
i ito ito no mied all over my screen
It doesn’t go against the idea if Teach is how the devil is actually back because Imu couldnt reach the full potential
oh yeah im reading viz for this
you cant actually be the devil with your own personality
I think it’ll be The Devil Fruit
I do think it'd be tough navigating the team-up, if it were to happen, for those first two reasons
but Croc and Bon Clay were responsible for civilian deaths too
thats just Teach with a Zoan, thats not the same entity
You can if you were already the worst and teach is the worst
I think it'll be like TCB "Devil's Fruit"
nice save lmao
What you’re describing is just Imu with a fruit too
not at all
but that is true also
Anime today too
Finally will see who woke Nami up
Doubt it
Stop being weird.
waiiit fr
Pre time skip is better character
!animo
Next episode comes out on <t:1775404800:F> <t:1775404800:R> (Hiatus time)
Clips should be popping up soon
after the trouble bro went to to save you 💔
It airs at 10 15
is everyone watching it on crunchyroll
Er 2 hours
Nyaa
they'll stream it on discord here
as they always do
Never noticed lol
yeshhh
My brother in Nika
This is the Great Pirate Era
whats different
It the day our Lord rere rises!!! Pray to the sun god! How second chapter starts today!
realistically its more luffy like to pirate the episode than to actually pay to stream it
so therefore im the good guy here
shamrock episode still months away😔
The two options are:
Imu just being the exact same Devil thats been alive for that long.
Or him being possessed by the devil that existed back then.
Will the opening release earlier?
what made you think the devil's been around since the first world btw
idk, I wanna see all the Loki stuff animated too
Devil fruits are the sea devil incarnations
So devil had to be first world or the end of it
yeah
I wonder what it's like to write a world-renowned series
Happy Easter Resurrection Sunday to all!
and I think the Earth God is what it used to be called, thats the entity that spread death and darkness in the world during the First World
is it just me or do yall not agree with the ppl who say “loki will join the strawhats”
how does Oda stay humble fr
id imagine the pressure is unbearable
🤔
i genuinely do not understand why people think loki will join
Happy Resurrection Sunday
I can almost hear the Drums of Liberation now...
oh that's just the red line being created from insane volcanic activity
Loki will lead the Galleila I think
they need a torturer and ragnir
Happy Easter 🐰
In private, he probably isn't lol
a torturer? like a bad cop role?
yea
truly lmao
literal millions of people locked in to your creation
Someone said Imu will wear the giant Strawhat 🤣🤣🤣
zoro kinda alr plays that
Probably road ngl
I say zues or Usopp
zoro will betray
Twist ragnir is the torturer
but id say yamato was way more likely of a candidate as a shadow of oden
Indeed 🌅 ✝️ 🥳 🥁
Imagine that cute lil butter ball squirrel torturing you
“I was always a pirate hunter”
im sorry but this take is the most L take ive heard
nobody needs Oden
Usopp woke up nami, waking up in the cat's mouth gave him a panic that triggered an Observation Haki bloom that projected his Voice like Luffy in Wano
The Gorosei and Imu are meant to represent a geocentric model of our universe. Its an ancient belief about Earth being the centre of the universe itself
Yamato basically already semi confirmed to join with that last sbs
Whether that’s before eos or eos idk
"I am the pirate hunter, Luffy"
Imu represents Earth, and he is the devil so yeah.
yeah true since nico Robin is there but I generously just cannot see Loki joining
I can see a giant Luffy putting it on instead
I could see her just joining them during the final war like Jinbei in Wano
"You are not seeing very far in the future" -Evil Katakuri
Yea
People really think Imu is human sized standing on the roof
so One Piece has been Orb this entire time
maybe you’ll prove me wrong
“Oda inconsistency”
well I disagree
Half of the fanbase don’t realized he transformed
They think he just took his cloak off
nah that boy huge
He's a big boy unless oda changes/fixes it in the final version
That's how I take it
Cus they deff are giant sized
I dont think he will be giant sized
Yea he seems almost exact height as Loki
so is blobmu still real
I just disagree with that
maybe its a different form?
he will be like Kaido sized
idk maybe he can change his size
I don't think the size of Loki but still giant sized
At the least he’s the size of G5 Luffy
yeah a lot of people suck at knowing what a transformation looks like, I remember this happened with Loki transforming too
I think that's right
That’s definitely giant sized Imu there
I mean than oda really messed up the reveal cus of the windows sizes
Yes
Speaking of butterflies
Oh yeah he definitely increased his size
When he transforms its like a butterfly coming out of a cocoon
THW AUEA OF IKU
Yea
THW AUEA OF IKU
Imagine if yamato left JUST after wano 😭
