also-manga

[gentle pelican]

U can just mention the name

Weirdo

[willow pollen]

You say that, but I’ve been watching lots of fan reaction vids. It’s doing the job

As good as you can I think with the limitations, even though I might have changed some simple things

[gentle pelican]

I have never seen a series with similar eyes as imu

[willow pollen]

Number one being the creed strength

[small ember]

Nahhh no way

[supple raptor]

i saw sm comments saying oda copied some anime and that the design is trash

its lowk fire tho

[dense haven]

oda is a hack

[dense rapids]

Just saw a crazy theory

That if the immortal surgery was performed on Imu then what if the Holy Land acts as a “room” and if he leaves it the technique falters

[urban lodge]

Is the episode tomorrow or next week?

[pulsar timber]

Tomorrow

[rose rune]

finally a shitty non-ai edit.
these are getting rare

[urban lodge]

Nice

I'm excited for the new opening

[rose rune]

I'm not. or.. I will probably enjoy the visuals, but the song seems bad

[dense haven]

any imu haters in chat

[rose rune]

I know Imu will have a beautiful woman's body in human form

[sterile fjord]

nah...I don't think there are any>>>

[serene plume]

being a imu hater isnt even worth it theres nothing to make fun of

hating is only good when its funny

to be fair imu got ragebaited by usopp

[crisp python]

Mihawk has got to have THE biggest flex in the entire history of anime/manga
All it takes is for Mihawk to use Zoro as a powerscale hype
Zoro defeats level 80 strong character, Mihawk instantly becomes more powerful than level 81
Zoro defeats level 90 strong character, Mihawk instantly becomes more powerful than level 91
and so forth on

Mihawk doesn't have to fight anyone lol

[dense rapids]

Imu can’t leave the operation room 🤔

[iron oriole]

would be kinda funny if thats a side effect to the immortality surgery, you can't leave the area which you had the surgery without potentially major consequences

[dense rapids]

Maybe the room is constantly undergoing the operation or something

Like how when law silenced big mom

[small ember]

Oh interesting, like Imu is on a timer whenever he leaves Marygeoise

[rose rune]

@brittle basin

[pseudo gulch]

This would be Oda's heart if he had one

But he's heartless

[iron oriole]

Of sorts yeah

[ashen rose]

If everything goes to shit, it's usopps fault

[dark nymph]

he lowkey made Imu take them more seriously, if they all die its Usopps fault

[proud loom]

Thank god for usopp

[dark nymph]

the ragebait worked

[ashen rose]

"you're a coward for not coming here personally"

"Bet"

[proud loom]

Everyone should Thank usopp for moving this story forward

[ashen rose]

Usopp is gonna be imus first victim

[proud loom]

Imu will fail

[ashen rose]

Fuck "joyboy", fuck "rocks d xebecs legacy"

[iron oriole]

Imu's only words the entire time should be "i came here personally" & directed at Usopp

Other words are pointless now

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/fighting-dogs-dogs-fence-gif-24901767

[proud loom]

At least usopp never 20v1’d a guy

Shame on mu

[tough dust]

i think people are giving usopp way too much credit for imu coming in

[urban lodge]

Joyboy had the 3 ancient weapons and every race on the planet on his side and still lost

[tough dust]

as if niddhog and nika aren't the main reason lol

[proud loom]

I wonder if we will see what those other kings look like

[proud loom]

Maybe he didn’t want to use weapons of mass destruction

[ashen rose]

We need to see imu put this kind of performance

[pseudo gulch]

Usopp is the ONLY reason Imu stepped foot on Elbaf

[urban lodge]

Yeah I'm wondering if some leaker said that and people ran with it

[tough dust]

they didn't funny enough

[dark nymph]

they are definitely the main reason yeah, I just think Usopp played a part in it, like some of his words stuck despite Imu saying they won't taint their own hands

[tough dust]

thats totally fine

[dark nymph]

he probably would have showed up anyways, but he's probably more convinced of the decision after those words

[frigid gulch]

Woki froze Blobmu and made him show up in person

[high wolf]

Usopp upscale

[ashen rose]

Ah yes, rage baiting the devil causing everyone to be in mortal danger

Massive upscale

[high wolf]

True indeed

[scarlet nacelle]

I mean with nika and nidhogg on the island imu knew that he would likely not succeed unless he himself went to take care of shit
Usopp or not imu would’ve come

[urban lodge]

Yeah ngl I think Usopp is completely irrelevant to him coming

[high wolf]

Yeah

[urban lodge]

It's just ironic that he did after those words

But the words themselves aren't a factor

[glass plume]

https://x.com/StillNeoArts/status/2040431402135572563/photo/1
Enough time has passed, best design in One Piece.

🏂NEOOO⁉️ (@StillNeoArts)

NERONA IMU #ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 4, 2026, 2:08 PM

[ashen rose]

I know, but it's fine to think otherwise

Plus I believe usopps words did have an effect on IMU

I mean, a mere mortal, a literal nothing compared to you, calling you a coward after being untouched for nearly 800 years would hurt

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/usopp-usopp-hammer-5-ton-hammer-one-piece-gif-3778087927203761803

#pending

[urban lodge]

Why do Usopp fans want bad things

[final trench]

How is that a bad thing

Quickly

[glass plume]

https://x.com/zmetmar/status/2040422021784293702/photo/1
There's too much peak art out there.

Metmar (@zmetmar)

Blood blueberry 🫐
#ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 4, 2026, 1:31 PM

[rose rune]

I honestly don't know

[urban lodge]

It would make him strong and Usopp being strong sucks

[final trench]

How does that suck??

[urban lodge]

It's antithetical to his character

[rose rune]

"hhuurrr... give him wapen to make him strong! charctur devolpment"

[final trench]

He’s not gonna be weak forever

[ashen rose]

I just want him to develop his sniping skills

That's all

[urban lodge]

He's supposed to be the normal guy, the underdog, that's his entire thing

[ashen rose]

That doesn't mean he should be stagnant

[final trench]

Yes but he’s gonna grow strong regardless because he’s on a yonko crew

[urban lodge]

Conquering your fears by suddenly getting a stupidly broken weapon is cheap writing

[final trench]

??

[dark nymph]

yeah I want him to be a normal human (in op standards) with insane sniping skills to be a threat to top tiers

[final trench]

Ragnir aint gonna be the only thing

But go on

[dense haven]

what else is there

[rose rune]

giving him ragnir shouldn't be a thing

[ashen rose]

Him using his intellect and his creativity to defeat foes was always his go to and it was so fun to see him fight

[glass plume]

Can't believe people unironically want this from Usopp

[ashen rose]

Exactly, ragnir is loyal to loki

[stone terrace]

Last time we got an art bomb like this was when g5 came out

[final trench]

Usopp is definitely gonna raise his confidence via the giants/strawhats cheering him on. The same way he made luffy get up and keep fighting lucci

[dark nymph]

I joke about him getting a gun, but that would genuinely suck, he should fuck up everyone with a god damn slingshot

Thats way more cool

[final trench]

As soon as he got revealed to be a squirrel it was already confirmed

Resr

[glass plume]

It wasn't confirmed, it's just the fans going on a goose chase.

Something the fandom excells at.

[rose rune]

cause as we know, usopp has a history with squirrels

[final trench]

How so

[stone terrace]

Wanna give usopp a hammer that would beat zoro and sanjis ass at the same time

💀

[final trench]

Because squirrels love seeds, and thats majority of usopps ammunition

[stone terrace]

No need to be brave anymore

[final trench]

But go on what else

[glass plume]

"Hey look this coverstory had this character with this animal... That must mean that this weapons that is this animal must belong to this character now!!.. Woah GODA foreshadowing."

[final trench]

Not what i said but go on

What else

[glass plume]

And then they weep when it doesn't go like that.

[final trench]

Not what i said but go on

[rose rune]

do we need anything else than what has been said?

[urban lodge]

Remember when people were conveniently cropping this image as if Usopp was the only one with a squirrel

[glass plume]

I mean it's basically the thing you're promoting.

[final trench]

I didnt use that either but go on

[dense haven]

usopp fans are so tired of his bum ass they just wanna cheat

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/maintaining-the-agenda-agenda-is-priority-priority-agenda-maintain-the-agenda-the-agenda-gif-3278548794073012331

[final trench]

See how we bringing up random shit that i DIDNT say

[glass plume]

They don't want Usopp to remain as Usopp, they want a god to take his place.

[final trench]

Very telling

Usopp is a God

[stone terrace]

Matter of fact

[glass plume]

People want this, unironically.

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/god-usopp-dressrosa-one-piece-gif-13493362224330151794

He even got his own statue

[rose rune]

they want usopp to be zoro. they are secretly zoro fans

[urban lodge]

I always forget but it's the cocking color spread

[stone terrace]

Its basically blatantly confirmed ragnir is gonna free those ph giants

[final trench]

Thats cool you said it the first time buddy

What else

[stone terrace]

He's sticking with loki

😭

[graceful grove]

Like Sanji with his “hidden” genes

[final trench]

Never said usopp is keeping ragnir

What else

[glass plume]

I said it and you're agreeing since you're going on a tangent that Usopp should get Ragnir.

[final trench]

He’s gonna wield ragnir yes

Temporarily

[glass plume]

He won't.

[final trench]

Never said its his permanent weapon

[stone terrace]

Is he gonna grow 20000 feet and swing it

[glass plume]

It won't even be a rent-weapon

[stone terrace]

Ragnir would wield him

[final trench]

Ight bet stay on that side

[rose rune]

I can get behind it as a temporary gag, but people unironically wanted him to wield ragnir properly

[glass plume]

Sure thing.

[azure wasp]

Ragnire toe nail is 10 times bigger then ussop

[glass plume]

Even as a temporary thing how the fuck would Usopp wield it when it's like fifty times the size of Usopp.

[final trench]

RUN RABBIT RUN RABBIT

[rose rune]

hammer holds itself up while he leans on it

[glass plume]

Lmfao.

So he wouldn't even wield it, he'd just trick others into thinking he did.

"Oh I totally wielded your hammer while you were knocked out Loki!"

[graceful grove]

He can use it like a pokemon

[glass plume]

"I choose you Ragnir..!"

Ragnir refuses to battle.

[graceful grove]

Ragnir will listen

[glass plume]

I mean that's cute.

[final trench]

Then he eats a pop green and yields to usopp

The end

[dense haven]

ragnir would kill usopp if he farts in his general direction

[graceful grove]

Lets be real, Loki dont even need Ragnir. He is too op by himself

[glass plume]

Loki, Luffy and Ragnir will probably be fully occupied with Imu
While the others try to save what can be saved.

[final trench]

Now we got loki and ragnir

IF ragnir is even a DF

[ionic palm]

nah, Ragnir def is a DF

[urban lodge]

If they're counting Karasu as 2010 they should count Luffy as 1997

[ionic palm]

Ragnir's a hammer, not an actual Squirrel

[restive wave]

How the times have changed

[dark nymph]

the people yearn for a new logia

[final trench]

Ragnir died and moved to the hammer tho

[graceful grove]

2028 will bring back logia

[glass plume]

Mythical Zoans are so cool though.

[dark nymph]

and more paramecias in general (the coolest)

[final trench]

Blue flame sabo save us

[ionic palm]

somewhat feel like Mythical Zoans are actually more numerous than Logias, but the only reason they're considered more rare is because they're already hogged or taken but never publicly shown.

[final trench]

Dalmatian zoan💔💔💔🫩

https://tenor.com/view/cassie-arry-puppy-thor-pongo-gif-24379125

[pseudo gulch]

Do y'all think the frozen giants in Punk Hazard and Loki's attack might be related in some way

[glass plume]

What new logias would they even be able to make?

[final trench]

Imagine this nigga tries to arrest you bro wyd

[glass plume]

Feels like most of them are already made.

[tough dust]

ragnir was the hammer, the squirel was just called ratatoskr until they fused into just rangir

[pseudo gulch]

Maybe it wasn't Loki himself that froze them but still

[glass plume]

I think that Ragnir definitely caused it.

[pseudo gulch]

Wind and rocks maybe

[final trench]

Lead

Blood

[rose rune]

I want one of these for paramecias. best fruit type

[final trench]

Uhhh

[pseudo gulch]

Radiation

[ionic palm]

the ice almost definitely belongs to Ragnir, prob did this in the Void Century since thats prob how old Ragnir is

[pseudo gulch]

Get creative, stardust logia

[glass plume]

Would blood work? Isn't it too graphic.

[dark nymph]

Hey, if fucking Soot can be a thing, there's many options still out there

[restive wave]

This squral is better emergency food

[dense haven]

guys is it over for usopp

[final trench]

Water

[stone terrace]

Theres hundreds of mythical creatures

[glass plume]

The rules is that it needs to be natural, right?

[stone terrace]

Oda running out of logias

[pseudo gulch]

Shut up

[glass plume]

That's why Mochi was retconned into a special-paramecia.

[final trench]

Emerald fruit ig, or thats more of a paramecia

[tough dust]

they were forzen ages ago before loki was even born lol

[glass plume]

Sounds like an off-shoot from Jozu's diamond fruit.

[glass plume]

I mean Ragnir was still around.

[tough dust]

rangir however yeah

[restive wave]

Loki gonna unfreeze them

[final trench]

The emerald gerald

[pseudo gulch]

Yeah but it still could've been Ragnir

Or the same powers used by someone else

[tough dust]

whoever held rangir froze them

[final trench]

Sapphire logia

[glass plume]

The strangest part is that it says that no one has been worthy to wield Ragnir up until Loki.

And the former god of war.

[pseudo gulch]

Let's make a diamond logia and completely powercreep Jozu

[spice python]

Galley-la?

[glass plume]

So part of me thinks that the former God of War trapped his own giants within the ice.

[dark nymph]

anything that exists naturally yes

[final trench]

Gold gold logia

[stone terrace]

Diamond logia could instantly collapse the diamond market

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/gholdengo-pokemon-gif-15242883686812850684

[pseudo gulch]

Gol D. logia???

[glass plume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-one-piece-movie

[final trench]

Yes

[spice python]

Plasma logia

[final trench]

Nah what ????

That shit got wasted on a movie villain?

Geez

[glass plume]

Gild Tesoro kinda has the gold power already, lol

[rose rune]

beaver musk logia

[spice python]

Einstein-Bose Condensate Logia

[dense haven]

elon musk logia

[rose rune]

that's mythical zoan silly

[pseudo gulch]

The hito hito caveman fruit

[dark nymph]

but it seems like it has to be something natural that can also disperse and shape up in some way, so something like diamond won't fit

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-unga-bunga-loading-uga-gif-23786525

the drums of confusion

[stone terrace]

Its kinda ticky tacky

Cant say a diamond makes less sense as a logia than freaking plants

[glass plume]

Atom logia.

[glacial bear]

TESORO THE GOAT

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-film-gold-one-piece-movie-13-film-gold-op-film-gold-gif-11417573747297611872

[glass plume]

What the hell, I don't remember that form.

[rose rune]

golden vergo

https://tenor.com/view/vergo-one-piece-gif-25423015

[frigid gulch]

The OG Hakiman

[pulsar path]

If viergo was at dressrossa straw hats would been ffffff

Not really lmao

[frigid gulch]

Zoro woulda taken care of it

Or Law ?

[pulsar path]

Probably lmao maybe he would been Sanji fight before he left or something. Even crazier what if dofflmaingo made it to wano

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[brittle basin]

80s metal, my beloved.

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/europe-the-final-countdown

[brittle basin]

chapter is like an 8/10. Mostly becaues Imu's entrance was pretty epic.

[dense haven]

what more do you need

[glass plume]

https://x.com/Bushin_zin/status/2040442661954314362/photo/1
Crazy that Xebec didn't even see the true king of the world.

Amber (@Bushin_zin)

Kings of the world #ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 4, 2026, 2:53 PM

[brittle basin]

it's a set-up chapter, those don't necessarily score too high for me

[pine ridge]

who invited rocks

[glass plume]

No idea, but Imu looks great there.

98% of the community is in love with Imu's design.

Oda is a master.

[dense haven]

goda

[pulsar path]

I prefer a more onepeice ass design tbh

[dense haven]

says the guy who cryed about blobmu

[pulsar path]

Buts it's cool i gotta see more

What do you mean I like blobmu I tink

I probably did at some point

[pine ridge]

it's a pimped out enel. how is it not onepiece ass

[pulsar path]

Bro enel looked like freaking weirdo

I literally can't show you how generic Imu basic design is cus it's like every other manga in the world

But I mean it's a devil

Shit I can go into video games too

I won't but I mean it's present there

[red lagoon]

Imu is a op design not everyone in op looks stupid

[pulsar path]

It ant the worst design but it ant a very one-piece design and like I said I would like to see more

[pulsar path]

Every one in onepeice looks weird

Virgo got the most aura

Had a hamburger on his cheek

[red lagoon]

Shanks doesn’t look weird

[pulsar path]

He's literally a bumb

[glass plume]

https://x.com/FreelValenx/status/2040437781290217983/photo/1

Freellie.art (@FreelValenx)

Nerona Imu Sketch, I'm in love with his design #ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 4, 2026, 2:34 PM

[pulsar path]

Dresses like a bum

[glass plume]

Blackbeard is there, just for you.

[pulsar path]

Black beard going to kill Imu

[glass plume]

You wish.

[pulsar path]

Listen Xebec is flawless

BB is definitely killing Imu lmao

[glass plume]

Xebec isn't flawless, lol

[glass plume]

Hell no.

[pulsar path]

Uuh okay

Bro it's set up

[glass plume]

Designs are subjective.

[pulsar path]

Right

Hence Imu mid

[glass plume]

Far more like Imu's design then dislike.

I think it's mostly the Blackbeard stands who dislike Imu's design, wonder why.

[pulsar path]

I'm not directing this to you but if people read a lot of other series they wouldn't like it as much.

I'm definitely not a bb stand but I like him more than Imu now

[ashen perch]

???

[glass plume]

And I like Imu 1000000000000000000000000 times more than Blackbeard could ever wish.

[ashen perch]

this is what I mean

you guys have an idea of what the One Piece designs are like

and its not verifiably true in any way

[hot cairn]

it was a banger

[pulsar path]

Every single one-piece character is an eccentric.

[ashen perch]

Oda loves his rule of cool, most characters do look cool and he'd be mad if he saw people pretend like his designs arent cool

no they are not

[stone terrace]

Ehhh

[hot cairn]

I have seen so much Imu art in the tl man it’s crazy

[pulsar path]

They are lol

[glass plume]

Yeah, it's SO peak.

[pulsar path]

Every single character has weird thing about them

Even if it's just the laugh

[stone terrace]

I didnt really get into one piece until like dressrosa but i saw a ton of op stuff just by being in anime spaces

[ashen perch]

thats not about their design though

[stone terrace]

And i always thought the designs were goofy

[ashen perch]

looks weird and acts weird are different

[stone terrace]

For every 6-7 goofy ones theres one cool one

[ashen perch]

thats false

[brittle basin]

No, I think there are some pretty normal-ish characters in One Piece. Iceberg and Paulie for example, right?

[glass plume]

The best thing about One Piece is that there's a design for everyone.

[brittle basin]

One Piece has normal, rule-of-cool, and whacky designs.

[hot cairn]

I don’t get how Imu is not a Op design

[pulsar path]

Ice burg whole face is kinda weird tbh compared to other characters

And his suit is snazzy

[glass plume]

Lmfao.

[brittle basin]

that's just a dude

[golden valley]

The reality is, OP doesn’t sway on one specific side design wise. Theres equally cool and goofy designs

[brittle basin]

humans wear snazzy suits all the time

it's just we remember the goofy ones more

Makino is as normal as they come

[pulsar path]

He literally is wearing lipstick

[brittle basin]

and Makino?

[stone terrace]

Big bad = cool
Small bads = 50/50
minor characters: goofy as shit

[brittle basin]

she's just a barmaid.

[pulsar path]

No icebrrg

[stone terrace]

Actually thats not even true we had GECKO MORIA as an arc boss

[pulsar path]

Sorry gear 4th fan here over snake man

[stone terrace]

And then blackbeards coming up

[brittle basin]

but i'm on your side ill, Imu is only OK at best. But that doesn't mean OP doesn't have a variety of normal characters.

[stone terrace]

Imu doesnt even feel like an op char to me

Like this feels like a demon slayer transplant

[glass plume]

That's craaazy.

[brittle basin]

No. Some believe that's intentional, and if so Oda nailed it specifically from that aspect only.

[pulsar path]

I mean I think even the normal characters have some eccentric things about them and I like that but Imu just seems sorta generic but like I said it's a devil you really can't do much. But I could literally name off like 10 to 15 series and games that use such a similar design 😔

[ashen perch]

it will take too long to list em all but even just from the first 100 chapters we have

Just in chapter one, Shanks and his First Mate Benn are obviously meant to be very cool
You have Krieg, Arlong, Kuroobi, Mihawk, Smoker, Zeff and Dragon
Zoro and Sanji themselves are as traditionally cool as it gets

Meanwhile, Nami, Kaya and Makino are very regular pretty women, nothing eccentric to them

This is honestly almost all major characters, the minority is eccentric and goofy

[hot cairn]

that’s crazy

[brittle basin]

I think people see that it's less like OP and more like other Shonen they've seen. As if Oda copied from them (I don't know exactly what series or characters, but I know Naruto gets thrown around a bit - even I thought Naruto when I first saw him, but I don't know why that was my gut instinct).

[pulsar path]

Can people not be goofy and cool?

[ashen perch]

LOOK

[brittle basin]

Or some people say they all borrow from the same mythology, which is fine.

[ashen perch]

and act

are different

[brittle basin]

You're describing Katakuri.

[dense pike]

Thats the way we like it

[brittle basin]

Plus, Imu might still be goofy. But you have to see that in their actions first. We only have a design so far.

[pulsar path]

Yeah me too 😔

[ashen perch]

people are extremely stupid

[pulsar path]

He's is pretty goofily cool or coolily goofy

[ashen perch]

every single argument about the similarities can be dispelled within seconds

[pulsar path]

Lol okay

[brittle basin]

Katakuri is cool on the immediate surface. His goofiness is mostly his odd eating habits. I guess mochi powers too, but he took those pretty serious.

[stone terrace]

Kata is a goofy design just not immediately obvious

[dense pike]

to me this indicates he has some sense of comedic fanfare

[brittle basin]

But King is just a cool character will only one goofy thing, and that was his stretchy face attack. But nothine else about his personality was goofy. Same with Enel, he was only goof in that facial expression.

[ashen perch]

the eyes? Oda did them first
the tattoos? nobody invented them, but even then Oda did them before them
the horns? nobody invented them, they're just meant to resemble traditional oni horns that Oda also already did first

[stone terrace]

But you learn its a facade and hes just trying too hard

What the hell do you have boot spurs for

[brittle basin]

Yeah, I had a similar thought. The houses were a 10/10.

[pulsar path]

Earl lobs

[stone terrace]

Where is your horse sir

[pulsar path]

Ear

[golden valley]

I hate to sound like an OP fan that just gobbles and exaggerates whatever Oda writes, but I aint even gonna lie man, people citing other series to draw comparisons to Imu and calling it generic have no idea what they’re talking about

[brittle basin]

Yeah, true. The ear lobes had a goofy feel to him, but everything else about him suggest otherwise.

Enel is a very serious character

[golden valley]

I wanna say, lets wait til we get a full and clear body shot of Transformed Imu, but even with what we have now, Imu have design choices UNIQUE to them

[hot cairn]

why do people compare it with other series?

[brittle basin]

I'm sure some people have images to compare, but I haven't seen them.

[ashen perch]

people have only seen 3 things in their life Jesus

thats it

[brittle basin]

You would have to ask them.

[golden valley]

Viz out?

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/was-pops-wrong-gif-3182952423299865297

[brittle basin]

But Qbz said it best to me with "JRPG final villain vibes." I've played many JRPGs, and that feel Imu gives off is quite similar, in an extremely generic way.

[hot cairn]

it’s Saturday

[golden valley]

I don’t wanna wait another day man

[ashen perch]

like I said already, theres no comparison to be made. The biggest similarities can be traced back to an actual source: mythology.

[brittle basin]

Viz out Sunday

[pulsar path]

I mean like In just giving my initial thoughts and even said I need to see more but the amount of other characters imu looks like is pretty bad IDC what any one says I'm not trying to other series either but I can think of three times in other shounen jump manga alone that a character looked similar to this but the fact remains it is based on an devil and there is really only way to depict it. With a pointed risk and horns and probably red skin

[brittle basin]

There might be, I just have yet to see them.

But I haven't looked for them.

And if mythology is the source, that's fine. But, I guess if this comparison is being made, they are pooling from maybe the same limited source?

[golden valley]

But you’re just ignoring other aspects to the design.

[ashen perch]

regardless, the comparison doesnt make any sense

[stone terrace]

I have it on good authority viz will go with Ability: Devil's Fruit

[hot cairn]

“pretty bad” ???

[pulsar path]

You mean the smoke ring , raile and aarro arrow like fruit?

[ashen perch]

its literally just horns and tattoos, they are comparing characters with horns and tattoos

[brittle basin]

The one interesting thing about Imu's design is the tail, because it's flat. That is a unique design choice.

[ashen perch]

lol

[brittle basin]

Then I guess other series has this often?

Kaido has horns and tattoos but nobody complains that I'm aware of.

[ashen perch]

Its not a good faith comparison, thats why

[pulsar path]

Tbh thighs did a recolor that made him look just like totk link too....

[grand flower]

Like Hellboy hasnt been doing it for decades

[brittle basin]

Wait, does Imu look like a specific yokai or demon commonly used in myth and other manga? Is that it?

[hot cairn]

it’s because people are selling Imu as the final villain of One Piece

[glass plume]

And that's a bad thing?

[golden valley]

Yes, with Imu’s eyes being manifested within the scarf

[pulsar path]

It's not original lol

[glass plume]

Just because it's remeniscent of other series, doesn't mean it's automatically "BAD"

[stone terrace]

Shuten doji maybe

[brittle basin]

I'm thinking BB. Imu's design gives me final villain vibes but also penultimate villain vibes.

[pulsar path]

I mean y'all putting words in my mouth now

I never said bad

[ashen perch]

the problem here is that the design has been widely well received online, so you have got people trying to fight against that with the comparisons

[hot cairn]

????

[brittle basin]

No, Imu's design is not bad. That would be disingenuous.

It's perfectly fine.

[pulsar path]

I can dislike something and not think it's bad

[hot cairn]

you literally said “is pretty bad” here lmao

[ashen perch]

you have got fanbases of these other-series trying to pretend like they invented certain characteristics lol

[pulsar path]

Its pretty bad that so many other characters look the same

[brittle basin]

One issue is probably expectations. Some probably think "that's it?" after years of waiting. But most seem happy with Imu's design and that's cool.

[ashen perch]

he literally doesnt look like any character lol

[brittle basin]

I'm sure dissenters can post examples in #other-series if they want to start a comparisons discussion.

[ashen perch]

I have seen them all, they are all bad faith comparisons

he vaguely shares a few characteristics with some characters, that means nothing

[brittle basin]

But you don't have to compare Imu to criticize anything. You can simply not like it in and of itself. And that's also fine. Art is subjective we all know.

[ashen perch]

I think my issue is with the comparisons and the implication that he is in any sort of way generic

you can still not be a fan

but you shouldnt lie

[brittle basin]

Yeah, generic is my gut instinct. Like "baby's first concept art."

it reminds me of things I used to draw

But the tail is interesting. The eye ring? Eh, seen it and draw it a thousand times before

[ashen perch]

well again, theres nothing generic here outside of I guess him being a devil. But then again, He's a devil with 10 different unique characteristics to him.

also tbf, this probably was one of ''baby's first concept art'' lol, knowing how Oda's mind works

[brittle basin]

Generic is a way of also saying, contextually, "he lacks the interest that the more unique one piece characters have."

Like Katakuri borders on generic too

he's saved by the cowl/scarf

but only barely

[ashen perch]

If you literally stripped Imu of his accessories, you might be able to see him as generic

[dense rapids]

The previous op op user placed a permanent ROOM on Pangaea castle

The immortality surgery performed on Imu begins to falter once he exits this ROOM

Imu can’t leave the operation room

[golden valley]

You can say Imu “looks like” another character, a lot of characters look alike, but this is minor similarities like long hair, horns, maybe a long cape to add with it. Imu still has their own features you can differentiate from others.

Can I see a character that has hagoromo scarfs like Imu implemented into a demon design? A long arrow like tail that wraps around their lower body? Skulls at the waist area? Markings around their body? All into one?

[ashen perch]

but do not strip the man naked please

[brittle basin]

yeah, his eye ring is as generic as it gets. it's clear as day for me, but that's cause I've played many JRPGs before. Oda probably has too.

[pulsar path]

The only aspects I see as unique are like the cloud and eyes and the weird snake thing that might be a clue that he was one an Amazon Lili descendent

[brittle basin]

the belt can be seen as unique since it harkens to Elbaf lore possibly.

[pulsar path]

Eyes on the cloud not imus actual eyes

[golden valley]

When you boil down Imu to generic, you’re just ignoring whats on them.

[brittle basin]

There is one VERY good drawing of Imu done by a fan that gives his silhouette a powerful read, however. But I don't know how to find it again.

[pulsar timber]

Imus look isn’t generic it’s just not one piece typical

[storm anvil]

kinda cooking? if you wanna say that "the eternal youth" surgery is the user doing a permanent room around the person

[pulsar timber]

I think calling it generic does what’s a cool looking design little justice

[brittle basin]

comparatively that may be part of why it's generic. Imu is being compared to everything that came before him.

But he's fine. Generic can be fine.

[pulsar timber]

That would make imu not generic though

[brittle basin]

Imu is not bad.

[pulsar timber]

Because he isn’t falling in line with the typical series design

[golden valley]

Im deadass looking at this and trying to understand how this isn’t unique. There are rare characters that actually have similarly drawn accessories

[brittle basin]

But, like, for me, I'm a designer. I've just seen so many incredible things by fellow friends over the years, but also many that remind me of this.

[ashen perch]

The eye of ra on his hand, his triple ringed eyes, his very long skull filled tail wrapping around the tower, his long flowing hair, his handsome face with a well defined nose, the hagoromo cloud with multiple eyes all around it, his polearm with a very unique zigzagged blade and black clouded bottom, the black clouds surrounding in general like

[stone terrace]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/nioh/images/a/a1/Shuten-Doji.png/revision/latest?cb=20250104182240

[ashen perch]

these are excellent characteristics

[stone terrace]

[ashen perch]

and unique, for the most part

they all ofc combined to create a very unique design

[golden valley]

This is what we’re calling similar??

[leaden rivet]

I need to see the color scheme to make final decisions

[warm sierra]

Idt the skulls are on his tail thats just part of his clothing the tail is separate

[urban lodge]

Op fans will call Imu generic but clap for Blackbeard with Sonic OC hair

[ashen perch]

could be yeah

still looks sick ofc

[stone terrace]

We have very different definitions of similar

[leaden rivet]

Did people actually like rocks design

[golden valley]

Probably not, because Ik what your definition of similar is

[pulsar timber]

Pinkmu

[ashen perch]

but yeah, no matter how you put it, generic is just a horrible horrible word to use

[leaden rivet]

Pink isn’t bad

[golden valley]

Hol on, lemme find an image they were comparing Imu to

[pulsar timber]

Rocks design looks cool??? Why would people not like it

[ashen perch]

words have meaning, and that one simply cannot ever ever apply here

[stone terrace]

Rocks was ok

[vernal ravine]

yeah so generic there isn't anyone who has done a fanart slightly similar to the actual design in the last 8 years, some people just waffle whatever

[stone terrace]

The silhouette had a more interesting design

[ashen perch]

I liked Xebec's design

[stone terrace]

He ended up being buff bb with spikier hair

[leaden rivet]

Too similar to Blackbeard

[scarlet nacelle]

i been seeing people compare imu's design to every other anime in the world

they just cannot pick a lane

[ashen perch]

they are just being silly lol

[pulsar timber]

Only similar thing are the eyes

[scarlet nacelle]

can't even keep slander consistant

[final trench]

Is that why his fruit alone has a higher bounty than kaido

[leaden rivet]

Nah he practically has his face

Nose and all

[pulsar timber]

Not every design will be the greatest thing ever. Rocks looks cool and that’s that

[pulsar timber]

I wonder why.

[leaden rivet]

He doesn’t look cool he just looks ok

[pulsar timber]

He looks cool

[leaden rivet]

Don’t I wonder why me, Luffy looks jack shit like Dragon

[ashen perch]

I dont know how Oda did it, but Xebec does look slightly different than BB sometimes

[trim lily]

i would’ve liked if he had his silhouette hair

[dense rapids]

Because it grants eternal life

[final trench]

Its just other fandoms tryna stir up beef

Yk how dat go

[dense rapids]

Not fat

[dark nymph]

Rocks looks cool

[ashen perch]

no I mean the face too

[dense rapids]

Blackbeard has a fat face

[leaden rivet]

You can make familial similarities without copy and pasting the face

[final trench]

Imu’s culture vulture ass does have on a elbaf type belt tho

[ashen perch]

oh true

[pulsar timber]

Laws fruit has stupid potential in the hands of anyone emperor tier

[pulsar path]

Earl ran Imu through AI and it got it almost right

[pulsar timber]

That’s why it cost so much

[pulsar path]

I think it was Earl?

[ashen perch]

no????

[pulsar path]

He did lmao

It was crazy it just had boobs

[final trench]

Now we lyin

Ok

[ashen perch]

Illma

[pulsar timber]

Different beard and hairstyle though. Like yeah father and son look alike in the face. Same goes for Roger and Ace.

[ashen perch]

that was based on an accurate description of Imu by the leakers

this week

come on 😭

[leaden rivet]

I want Imu to have like darkskin

[pulsar timber]

He’s gonna be red

Probably

[leaden rivet]

Roger and Ace weren’t that close alike until this flashback

[pulsar path]

How would ik this I don't read leaks!?!!!!

[leaden rivet]

Failed attempt at saying my name?

Oh you’re talking to the other

One

[ashen perch]

the other

yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

Skill issue 😉

[final trench]

Hopefully

[ashen perch]

yeah well then dont say silly things like that

[pulsar path]

The other one!?!?

[leaden rivet]

The other Ill

[pulsar timber]

Because Roger was sick and a decrepit gooner when we last saw him

[ashen perch]

nobody, not a single soul, managed to predict even a single element of Imu's design outside of him being the devil

[hot cairn]

it’s probably red

[final trench]

I still wonder what made roger and whitebeard sick

[leaden rivet]

Red is cringe

[hazy turret]

Illya

[leaden rivet]

Yes

[ashen perch]

Red is sick

[cosmic hamlet]

Surely someone predicted he has horns

[pulsar path]

I mean either way AI got it. Describe rocks and see if it works

[final trench]

I dont give a FUCK

Imu is not brownskin

[pulsar timber]

I think imus skintone is darker than kings, and is the same tone as shanks hair

[hazy turret]

Have you and I discussed Imu’s design yet

[leaden rivet]

Red will look too edgy

[hot cairn]

I think people werent expecting him to look this cool

[leaden rivet]

We have not

[ashen perch]

Illma come on this is a ridiculous thing to say

[cosmic hamlet]

Cool?

[hazy turret]

Wtf????

[pulsar path]

That's literally his whole design tho

[ashen perch]

?????????????

[final trench]

He’s not

[hazy turret]

What do you think

[final trench]

I wont allow it

[pulsar timber]

Why not

[vernal ravine]

literally we have to act now like the design was predictable, what a lie

[hazy turret]

What’s wrong with brown skin

[leaden rivet]

Well, for me it depends all on the coloring. If it’s black or pink I’m a fan. If it’s red I’m not a fan.

[stone terrace]

Predicting imu would have a horn and tails isnt a prediction

[final trench]

Nothing, the problem is IMU having it

[leaden rivet]

But just black and white I think it looks cool

[stone terrace]

We literally knew he would

[dense haven]

ilya did you like imu

[stone terrace]

Through a df or whatever

[pulsar timber]

Color predictions can’t be trusted from Oda

[hazy turret]

But for why

[pulsar timber]

Volume cover or color page will reveal all

[final trench]

I dont want that racist chud having brownskin bro

[ashen perch]

yeah thats part of him being a devil, but even then his horns were different from what all of us were expecting

[leaden rivet]

I don’t have strong feelings for him truth be told

[final trench]

Sorrynotsorry

[hazy turret]

Err for skin tone you mean?

[pulsar path]

Some dude leaked that the final villain was a devil like 8 years ago 😑

[leaden rivet]

Yeah

[ashen perch]

I think Imu is definitely going to be red, theres no way he wont

[dense haven]

it insists upon itself

[leaden rivet]

I wish his skin would almost be like real black to contrast his hair color

[ashen perch]

he is in a hybrid

[ashen perch]

no he didnt

he made a guess

[leaden rivet]

We get he’s like a demon no need for the edgy red shit

[pulsar timber]

I fell in love with greymu

[pulsar path]

Arsal wtf that's the same damn thing

[dark nymph]

Red is a little too on the nose don’t you think

[ashen perch]

a leak is not a guess...

[leaden rivet]

Look how demonic my demon is. Very demony.

[pulsar path]

I mean tbh it probably was a leak

[pulsar timber]

I don’t see how red is a tipping point considering the rest of the design and powers

Like imu is already massively edgy

[stone terrace]

He uses magic pentagrams and says hes granting people the power of evil

[hazy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/toxiqueney-mannequinney-quingifs-stan-twitter-tokyo-toni-gif-11829755864157766595

[ashen perch]

it was 60% wrong, no it wasnt

[pulsar path]

What was wrong?

[leaden rivet]

Ah right he did say some “this is the power of evil” shit lol

[stone terrace]

Its already far past the point of subtlety

[leaden rivet]

But still red is too much

[hot cairn]

does this new Imu design make people think Imu is the final villain now instead of BB? I’m curious

[ashen perch]

its been changed to power of god

[golden valley]

Yep. Unfortunately I cant post other series images, but I can at least use OC fanart as a metric. These are the type of demon designs people compare Imu to and call it “generic” or “overdone”, etc

[pulsar timber]

They flip flop every time either of them do or say anything

[cosmic hamlet]

Both are final villains

[pulsar timber]

People just gotta wait and enjoy the manga

[dense rapids]

I’m 100% sure Imu’s skin is the same grayscale red as shanks and shamrock hair

This is on purpose

[hot cairn]

true

[hot cairn]

also true

[leaden rivet]

The design no. But Imu showing himself here makes me feel stronger that Blackbeard is our final guy

[hazy turret]

Honestly, this form might be based off of a lunarian from the past. This isn’t the real imu form guys

[ashen perch]

Oda only uses like 3 screentones, likely not

[dense rapids]

King is a lighter shade

[leaden rivet]

I like Blobmu better

[ashen perch]

you gotta wait for the official buggy

[leaden rivet]

It was so cute

[pulsar timber]

Pic 3 got long feet

[glass plume]

https://x.com/oval_1ce/status/2040453338618274171/photo/1

awfull eyes | COMMS OPEN (@oval_1ce)

the one above all #ONEPIECE1179 #IMU

X · Apr 4, 2026, 3:36 PM

[dense rapids]

He will be lighter?

[ashen perch]

yeah

[leaden rivet]

If Imu was a little more androgynous with black skin that’s perfect for me 8/10 design

[hot cairn]

why?

[ashen perch]

the scans darken the tones all the time

[pulsar path]

Yeah supposedly it was a shuisha employee who leaked it all but idk how real that is it's from ten years ago

[dense rapids]

What if it’s the same 🤔

[cosmic hamlet]

I have official coloring

[pulsar timber]

What shade of red are we talking here

[vernal ravine]

for me it's the opposite, if oda wanna show you how imu looks right now before teach even do anything is a way of tell you he isn't the biggest enemy

[final trench]

Thank the lord

[pulsar path]

"junchiro fuma "

[pulsar timber]

Imu if egghead Oda was coloring

[pulsar path]

Ganon

[hazy turret]

perfect
8/10

[ashen perch]

lets see

[cosmic hamlet]

Imu is a goblin

[ashen perch]

still looks sick

[final trench]

Imu bouta be BLUE

[pulsar path]

Dude looks like a non Ganon Zelda villain mixed with Ganon lol

[hot cairn]

maybe he wants Luffy to meet Imu before the endgame fights

[leaden rivet]

As perfect as it gets

[golden valley]

I would LOVE for Imu to have brown skin BUT

lets be real

[trim lily]

imu is a lil green goblin that scurries around

[dense rapids]

Prob a little lighter than this

[golden valley]

Its gray or red

[ashen perch]

Red or Gray is my prediction personally

[leaden rivet]

This is soooo lame

[golden valley]

Gray or Red is the common devil color

[ashen perch]

well I guess more specifically, I think he will have the skin tone of Oars

[leaden rivet]

Might as well slap demon on his forehead

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-stuff-devil-evil-baby-devil-gif-6046534

[hazy turret]

I think that Oda needs to go with either

• Less clothes to emphasize the tattoos
• Remove the tattoos to keep the focus on the patterned clothing

[trim lily]

i mean imu is already pretty on the nose

[pulsar timber]

Answering this seriously I think Oda is just having the most interesting character in the story actually move to get this story rolling and for the final war that’s pretty much starting after this arc so I don’t see it as indicative of anything and moreso Oda adding hype and getting more pieces on the board

[gloomy light]

Yea some people have said Imu doesn’t have a big enough connection to Luffy which is a strike against him being the final villain but now they’re finally meeting

[golden valley]

But its more probable

[trim lily]

fella had a devil tail and a literal trident in their last appearance

[ashen perch]

this is Imu's color scheme

hair too

[hazy turret]

Red skin and red eyes?

[golden valley]

Oars had a light tone tho

[pulsar timber]

Hmmm. Looks about right. But then his eye color will probably not be red so that it can contrast with his skin

[dense rapids]

Give me 15 min

[hazy turret]

Honestly

[golden valley]

In the black n white

[ashen perch]

yeah I think he will be a lighter red

[hazy turret]

You might be cooking arsal

[ashen perch]

ofc

[dark nymph]

Oda doesn’t give a shit about contrast

[vernal ravine]

might be but i think you can think too that oda is showing you imu vs luffy cause he isn't going to do it later

[pulsar path]

If you recolor Yamato in beast form you could make them look exactly like Imu

[hazy turret]

Don’t make me regret saying that

[dense rapids]

The eyes will stay the same

[golden valley]

Hope Imu is on the next volume cover

[pulsar timber]

He told me he did bro. Called him last night

[golden valley]

Transformed

[ashen perch]

next is impossible, but the one after yeah

[pulsar timber]

What color eyes will imu have I doubt it’ll be red

[dark nymph]

Oh okay my bad

[ashen perch]

volume 115 is already done and Imu is still silhouetted there

[leaden rivet]

It’ll be red like his son Mihawk

[golden valley]

Ah, one after then yeah

[dense rapids]

I can see his black form being on 116 and his new form being on 117

[brittle basin]

Yeah, I guess red is most likely unless the scans were extra dark by accident.

[hot cairn]

I agree, it’s a great move to reveal Imu now instead of Final War. Gets the readers to get familiar with him more.

[dense rapids]

Unless the arc ends in like 10 chapters

[pulsar timber]

Hmmm

[hot cairn]

yeah exactly

[brittle basin]

I hope it's not ending in 10 chapters

[dark nymph]

Oh yeah Mihawk has red eyes, always saw them as yellowish

Loei

[brittle basin]

I think I need the heaven realm now

and more lore

[pulsar timber]

Toei changing eye colors instead of just asking Oda lol

[ashen perch]

I dont think Oda's usage of specific screentones should be looked into too deeply, he uses the same few tones usually. The official scans will make that clearer

[leaden rivet]

I mean we got 15 left max

[ashen perch]

MAX?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[leaden rivet]

Yes

[ashen perch]

oh man

[dark nymph]

25 max

[leaden rivet]

Timer started Arsal

[pulsar timber]

We haven’t even reached elbaf act 2

[brittle basin]

Then I can probably include Lunarian still as a possbility. But that's also what I would personally prefer, so I have a bias. I love the idea of a demon realm, but a lunarian is also interesting lore wise. Eh, perhaps they could be both

[hot cairn]

did people think the same when BB was introduced in Jaya and was after Luffy? That was just their meeting first, it can be the same for Imu now. It’s a good move from Oda.

[dark nymph]

Wait I mean minimum

[ashen perch]

Even putting the prediction aside, why must people insist on leaving Elbaf early anyways

[gloomy light]

They want to go to Vira already

[brittle basin]

Leaving early would leave a sour spot for me with elbaf. it would bring it down greatly.

[ashen perch]

I am loving our stay here, I want a lot more

[ashen perch]

I mean the sea devil has been real since the 9th chapter

I dont think Lunarian is really a possiblity

[hot cairn]

15 max is kinda crazy

[blazing depot]

Met the English voice of Katakuri today

[pulsar timber]

Imu is the sea devil and the earth god

[ashen perch]

indeed

[stone terrace]

randomly or is there a con

[blazing depot]

Also saw a Shamrock cosplayer at the con I’m at

[pulsar timber]

Did he have a pelican mouth too or is he a larper

[blazing depot]

Convention

[leaden rivet]

Rocks the only disappointing one

[golden valley]

Yeah, gimme 30+

[dense rapids]

L bait

[golden valley]

30+ chapters at least

[blazing depot]

We both agreed that handsome Imu is crazy

[ashen perch]

46 more, trust

[stone terrace]

wtf does this mean

[leaden rivet]

They’re going to spend like 5 chapters fighting Imu, then we have small lore drops and then they leave

[glass plume]

I agree.

[dense rapids]

Anime

[hot cairn]

46+ chapters of what lmao

[ashen perch]

the arc

wdym of what

[leaden rivet]

What could they possibly be doing

[dark nymph]

80 elbaph chapters minimum

[pulsar path]

I was really hoping it was like in a super market lmaoo

[dense rapids]

Arc ends after this battle imo

[ashen perch]

a lot

[golden valley]

The Holy Knights make a comeback

[hot cairn]

what are we doing for 46 chapters 😭

[leaden rivet]

Imu just arrived and he’s not going to be here long

[ashen perch]

how speculative do you want me to be

[golden valley]

Holy Knights fight

[blazing depot]

I live in Massachusetts… no voice actor lives there

[pulsar path]

Will there be a elbaf left after?

[ashen perch]

I can write fanfiction if thats what you seek

[blazing depot]

They’re usually in Dallas or LA

[weak wedge]

You write fanfiction?

[leaden rivet]

I mean just in general

[ashen perch]

always

[pulsar path]

Yeah that seems to be home of the VA in the wild

[ashen perch]

mine are just more like theories

[pulsar path]

Wonder if I'll ever see a shiny one

[weak wedge]

Wow

[hot cairn]

Arsal thinks Loki will get domi reversi and Imu will leave

[stone terrace]

imagine eneding to live in LA when you can send your lines over discord messages

[ashen perch]

Jesus that doesnt even have to happen

[leaden rivet]

What about that needs 50 chapters

[ashen perch]

it will still be that long

[hot cairn]

but Domi reversi doesnt work on Loki so

[golden valley]

Kinda hoping this still happens ngl

[wraith mantle]

whats your most confident theory rn

elbaf related

[golden valley]

But im afraid DR loki might rlly be over

[leaden rivet]

There’s no one here that can even beat Domi reversi Loki

[hot cairn]

Lmao then what makes the arc be 46 chapters left😭

[stone terrace]

if loki gets transformed im hunting down socrates

[spice steppe]

It’d make sense if a “Ragnarok” happened

[leaden rivet]

I thought Arsal imagined that Dragon would arrive

[golden valley]

Luffy haki blooms

[ashen rose]

We both are

We need him here again bro

[golden valley]

Or something

[ashen rose]

Free my man he didn't do anything

[pulsar path]

But than what about the mural for me I think that's the future

[leaden rivet]

No amount of haki blooming is saving that time limit

[wraith mantle]

luffy and ragnir will have a chance

[ashen rose]

What if ragnir also gets domi

[golden valley]

Team effort i guess

[glass plume]

[ashen rose]

Also chopper

[leaden rivet]

He’s already turned old once. He’s not recuperating and beating an amped Loki

[wraith mantle]

nah i think ragnir will abandon loki if he turns evil

[stone terrace]

we'd be cooked

[ashen rose]

[deep chasm]

no more DR we tried that already

[leaden rivet]

If he does that would probably make him the strongest character alive outside of Imu

[golden valley]

Except for shanks ofc

[leaden rivet]

I don’t really buy Shanks being stronger than Loki

[hot cairn]

true

[ashen rose]

"with the sole exception of satoru gojo"

[leaden rivet]

I can’t anymore

[hot cairn]

literally the whole reason Imu came

[glass plume]

[pulsar path]

Shanks is showing up

[ashen rose]

Exactly

[pulsar path]

Or dragon

[golden valley]

Idk what gave in

[golden valley]

But these recent chapters

Solidified shanks is stronger to me

[pulsar path]

Tbh this is kinda why I'm upset wtf we seeing Imu before dragon does some shit

[ashen rose]

SHANKS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING

[golden valley]

Loki is not as OP with his powers as I thought he’d be

[ashen rose]

These mf be pulling feats and comparisons out of their ass

[golden valley]

What Shanks has already done and narratively been implied to do is enough

Like yknow, capturing Loki

[leaden rivet]

Capturing loki has a huge asterisk

[ashen rose]

He got jumped, by all of Elbaph AND his crew

[golden valley]

Being in the same conversation as Joyboy for Haki

[ashen rose]

This wasn't a 1v1

[ashen perch]

lets see:
Imu starts a challenge, in (whatever his time limit is), only a few people will remain standing
HKs get back up, get powered up, get their fights, get defeated
Gunko gets broken out, her storyline gets resumed and resolved
Brook/Gunko flashback that also explores the man that Brook owes everything to
Dragon/Revos get involved at the end, Biblo is revealed to have taken the books to the Heaven Realm
They both save the crew from their death, taking them to the Heaven Realm. Maybe Elbaf gets destroyed in the process.
Vivi shows up, and we have that Sabo/Vivi/Luffy conversation that I talked to you about.
Heaven Realm also acts as a bit of a training arc with Gaban, though I am unsure of the deets yet.

Its hard to really say for sure tbh, the whole thing is very very unpredictable right now, but I guess you just wanted an idea of it

[deep chasm]

theres not rlly an asterisk. We only began to doubt it cuz it was hard to believe anyone could beat loki

[leaden rivet]

Oda outdid himself with that one

[cosmic hamlet]

@sleek plume who should i vote? ||Other than mihawk||

[leaden rivet]

Well no it’s because Loki calls him a coward for me

[golden valley]

All of Elbaf to restrain him AFTER he was captured

And Loki had a fleet with him too

[glass plume]

What if Oda made Loki this absolute beast, only for him to get bested by Shanks and Shanks be seen as even stronger than we thought.

[leaden rivet]

And scaling a contextless fight is silly

[ashen rose]

I'm going after ODA

[deep chasm]

I mean I feel like even if shanks didnt beat him fairly, thats just not what hes talking about. he is likely talking about shanks not wanting him to go the holy land in general

[dense rapids]

Zoro really about to be the first to go

That’s how you know the stakes are high

[glass plume]

His conquerors haki would knock you out.

[ashen rose]

That too, also iirc loki gave himself up right?

[golden valley]

The point is, I don’t see why Shanks would be portrayed inferior when its explicitly SHANKS hype

Also

[golden valley]

Gaban talks about Luffy’s strength

[deep chasm]

its rlly not we do it all the time. If you hear x beat y you would think x>y unless theres stronger reasons otherwise. Only reason to doubt it rn is loki is so strong we're not sure shanks could do it

[wraith mantle]

ngl powerscaling with oda is pointless

[golden valley]

When saying if he could capture Loki

[wraith mantle]

bro does NOT care about the scale

[golden valley]

Gaban uses Shanks as the bar

Theres just no reason why I’d take Loki as the superior fighter

And

The cherry on top

Loki cannot fight fast opponents like Shanks in dragon form

[ashen rose]

We're using statements as feats like it's facts and logics, when it's been shown TIME AND TIME AGAIN that it is not reliable

[golden valley]

Shanks has busted future-sight to stack on top of that

So its just Loki + Ragnir w/ ACoC

[deep chasm]

I think oda cares about the powerscale he's just not perfect at it

[golden valley]

And maybe a hybrid

[soft tangle]

I mean yeah if the strawhats aren’t there they win, but one piece’s world only allows the villains to act when they arrive to the new island 🤣(outside Goatbeard). The fact they really wanted these giants so badly, but the plan was to just ask is laughable. Sham’s plan would work without the theatrics though (not make it a game)☝️.

[urban lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-ryokugyu-aramaki-green-bull-shanks-gif-17563484908021023538

[ashen rose]

"one gomu gomu is equivalent to 100 fairy gomu gomus"

[urban lodge]

This is the treatment Loki is about to get

[deep chasm]

yea, i guess this can become a thing. Maybe he did well enough against Harald because harald is huge and he can hit him well enough. But smaller targets are just hard for him to fight

[hot cairn]

[dense rapids]

Conquers Elbaph in 30 mins

[leaden rivet]

At max I don’t see how this is more than 25 chapters. The Brook Gunko stuff if it happens as you say it will likely happen as the HK are fighting everyone else. But if it happens one by one maybe I can see it if Oda really stretches the pace

How long has Elbaf been so far

[hot cairn]

54 chapters

[glass plume]

I'm gonna be honest if it was anyone but Shanks (and the obvious ones), i would've doubted them defeating Loki.

[ashen perch]

notice how Domi Reversi wasnt even mentioned? I have mostly given up on it really, doesnt even matter, the arc will still go 46+ chapters

[glass plume]

But just because it's Shanks, it's hard to doubt it.

[ashen perch]

??????????????

how is that 25 chapters

[brittle basin]

oda also gave up on domi.

[leaden rivet]

Because a lot of these occurrences coincide with each other. They’re not fighting the revised HK for more than 15 chapters

[dense haven]

oda gave up on one piece

[golden valley]

Lets hope

[ashen perch]

nah it will come back

[soft tangle]

First W in Elbaf for Oda

[golden valley]

I wanna see Imu do more shit

More hax shit

[glass plume]

It's Imu Piece now.

[wraith mantle]

i wonder if next chapter will be a lore piece chapter

[soft tangle]

Does anyone else think the story would be better without Imu?

[ashen perch]

they could

they easily could

[glass plume]

Personally I think it would benefit without Blackbeard.

[ashen perch]

but even by that estimate, thats like 6 chapters of the Gunko/Brook flashback that youre not counting

[brittle basin]

i wouldn't go that far. imu is interesting. how oda tackles them going forward will determine their necessity.

[hot cairn]

I’m starting to think the holy knights won’t get 1v1 fights

[golden valley]

Bad take honestly

[deep chasm]

no

[golden valley]

In fact, I’d just say that person is crazy

[ashen perch]

both were bait messages but why is this the one getting the bait reaction

[urban lodge]

It would certainly be better without this Davy clan shit

[leaden rivet]

I don’t see another flashback that long this arc, it could kill the pace again after our abnormally long flashback earlier this arc

[hot cairn]

you tweakin brachy

[glass plume]

No idea, lol.

[soft tangle]

But imagine all the more depth yonkos and the government could have had, but it’s all gonna be Imu now.

[brittle basin]

the nature of imu simply fighting is kind of a lore chapter. anything he does can reveal lore if we're lucky

[glass plume]

I don't really think that, I just want to poke at them.

[golden valley]

Both Imu and BB are necessary

[deep chasm]

yea, no more big flashback this arc unless its at the end when everyhting is wrapped up and its just like Vivivi or dragon or whoever explaining something

[hearty shore]

Manga has become destiny piece in recent chapters

[leaden rivet]

I think Blackbeard could do without the destiny Davy shit

[brittle basin]

i think we can have both if oda can balance it.

[leaden rivet]

But you take the good with the bad

[deep chasm]

BB still is going to have depth. Shanks is obviously going to be very involved. And buggy always finds his way in. They'll be fine

[wraith mantle]

yeah that is also true, the more likely to happen is a few fight chapters and then some heavy lore drop

[ashen perch]

well you gotta see it more clearly then, its all about the timing and placement of it

[golden valley]

Wdym by depth? Why cant it still have depth?

[brittle basin]

but until we get more of him, yes the yonkos and wg are more interesting. but that's because we already know them. we don't know imu yet. and knowing him might make him even better.

[hot cairn]

why are you talking like if the story is over? Those things will also get explored as well

[hot cairn]

ah

[final trench]

Niggas fearing the davy clan once again

https://tenor.com/view/finesse-finesse2tymes-finessse2tymes-head-shake-finesse-head-shake-head-shaking-gif-4770716685341682368

Buckle up little ones

[glass plume]

They should fear Bepo.

I heard he likes to eat the Davy clan...

[leaden rivet]

Imu really hasn’t been explored or taken much space in the story yet to say he steals depth from other characters

[urban lodge]

I fear bad writing and this Davy clan shit is embarrassing

[final trench]

Did not eat a single bbp but cool go on

[hot cairn]

yeah

[soft tangle]

I’m saying Kaido and Big Mom, Gorosei, and any WG characters. Remove Imu entirely and they get more interesting. They had to be brushed to the side for Imu to now be the big bad. They only have Akainu left now.

[final trench]

How is it bad writing

Quickly

[soft tangle]

Imu extends to the holy knights

[brittle basin]

now, i do think focusing the story soley around imu would get a bit stale and one-note. but i would never expect oda to do that.

[urban lodge]

How special does BB have to be

[dense rapids]

What’s do you guys think will be the next arc

[final trench]

So your reasoning is cope

[pulsar timber]

Very

[final trench]

Ok

[urban lodge]

He's already practically a chosen one

[wraith mantle]

final villains need to be very special

[dense rapids]

Foreshadowed since chapter 233

[deep chasm]

Kaido and big mom are dead. Gorosei and WG are part of Imu's faction, they would be getting depth alongside imu. it would be like saying Kaido takes away from jack king or queen getting depth.

[final trench]

So its bad writing because you’re jealous of Blackbeard 😴

[hot cairn]

they didn’t get brushed to the side

[final trench]

Cant make this shit up

[brittle basin]

i'm guessing the race for the OP, mostly because oda ain't getting younger

[dense rapids]

So Lodestar/Laughtale

Probably has to be that since burn scar is appearing this year

[final trench]

The war on the surface world kicks off

[hot cairn]

you know Imu is special too right?

[brittle basin]

bingo. especially since both cross guild and shanks are officially gunning for it now

[final trench]

Damn near might be the purge

[pulsar timber]

Kaido and big moms characters got completed before imu ever became active in the story. Thy werent brushed to the side. And none of the wg characters were ever going to get as much depth as imu besides the figarland family, and they are still going to get their piece

[final trench]

Yes but they’re afraid of Blackbeard so he cant be special

[golden valley]

I mean, this Davy stuff still doesnt take away anything for BB’s character to me. He still feels like his own person that can choose his destiny, plus he seems very different from every Davy Clan member

[brittle basin]

imu is like ultra special. he's the definition of special.

[pulsar timber]

I mean we literally just saw Saturn get depth. That depth only exists because he functions under imu and the type of person imu is

[final trench]

Rocks is still on this niggas mind years later bro

[final trench]

They shivering

[glass plume]

The amount of slander you hand to Imu, must mean you're afraid of Imu too.

[urban lodge]

Of course, but BB already has so many layers of special and Oda just keeps piling them up

[final trench]

Message^

[pulsar timber]

Blackbeard being special perfectly fits his character as someone who is into the whole fate and destiny shit

[brittle basin]

but hey after gear 5 luffy is also special. though he has always been a destined child if memory serves

[final trench]

Im not afraid of chudmu

🌗🌗🌗

[glass plume]

You definitely are.

[final trench]

Phase 2 begins

[glass plume]

You never know when they could show up.

[pulsar timber]

What is so many layers. Previously it was just his unique body. Now we know he was related to rocks and part of a secret clan. I don’t see the problem

[final trench]

They already have

???

[glass plume]

With their glaring eye.

[brittle basin]

lol i'd be ok with this actually. it's kind of funny

[final trench]

“You never know when they can show up” as imu is literally on elbaf rn 😭

Holy schizophrenia

[glass plume]

And you're so afraid.

[ornate tartan]

let’s go buffy

[glass plume]

Truly horrified.

[ornate tartan]

preach

[urban lodge]

The secret clan who conveniently knew the entire history of the world is stupid

[hot cairn]

“so many layers” and it’s just two things

[final trench]

Ah, so you’re mad at knowledgeable people

[urban lodge]

His fruit, his lineage, all the fate bullshit

[brittle basin]

i still think it's weird he didn't know nika

[final trench]

Spoken like a true celestial dragon