also-manga

[keen falcon]

I feel like Kid's status as dead would be hard confirmed too if he actually just died

[hazy turret]

Pell wasn’t built up as one of the future leaders of the new generation of pirates or whatever

[keen falcon]

Yeah I don't like Imu being a fuckboy twink

[hazy turret]

Luffy, Law, and Kid are that

[thick mango]

I think it's pretty generous to describe kid that way

[dark stream]

exactly. Like the only thing we can bank on is that luffy and his crew's story will be wrapped up and hte main beats are taken care of. Anything else is extra.

[mint axle]

but honestly i dont see kid having a purpose on helping luffy fighting world government tho? wont it be more of him seeking revenge towards shanks rather than assisting luffy fighting wg?

[hazy turret]

Don’t argue with me, it’s what onigashima was doing

That was a whole thing

[hollow dove]

They're like 3 starter Pokemon, how you gonna just up and cancel one of the 3 starters smh

[prisma yacht]

owogashima

[hazy turret]

[prisma yacht]

:3

[dark stream]

hardly. The supernova were all made up last minute and Oda has no real plans and even said he thought he'd kill them off quickly in the new world. He never actually expected them to be big.

[thick mango]

My interpretation is onigashima was these guys could be the future. And then directly after we get the confirmation that luffy is special. Kid and law came far but they're not that guy, luffy is

[cosmic hamlet]

Talking about kid on the day imu reveal chapter is out 👀

[hollow dove]

That was his original intentions, then what actually happened afterwards? We had the captain trio make an appearance once again in Wano multiple times, clearly portraying that those 3 are THE 3

[mint axle]

back before onigashima, there's sabaody where oda introduced the worst gen, and each pirates took part in several arcs
i think kid's story and purpose is done here

[hollow dove]

Hey man, the Kid haters bring him up first way more than we do. I just partaking in the convo that was already here

[thick mango]

I only have allegiance to one character

[dark stream]

Every one piece arc has major side kick players that Straw hats team up with only never to play a role afterwards.

[mint axle]

"kid haters" dude, i was just curious on why you thought kid will still be relevant to the story, i thought this is a nice discussion

smh

[keen falcon]

Urouge still needs an arc

I wonder if he'll get one around Lodestar island at this point

[mint axle]

well, urouge is still the only one left without having a role in the new world

[cosmic hamlet]

Who are these kid haters?

[thick mango]

Urouge is waiting in the heaven realm and that's where we're gonna escape to from imu

[cosmic hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/quagsire-blink-blinking-gif-25635243

[dark stream]

I get the feeling you binge read the story until wano. Which is why you are over valuing stuff like this. A lot of the bad head cannon during wano that people got over invested into is due to people binge reading stuff and not realize how long it took to build up to events of that point. Kid wasn't in the story at all for 10 years after he was introduced until Wano. People experience him that don't see him nearly as a major character.

[keen falcon]

They have to fight Imu off outright, there's no way Imu would let them go or be stopped by "height" any other way imo

[dark stream]

Urouge arc. At the end of one piece, he will sit on a cloud and with a big grin be reading a book titled "The Romance Dawn".

[maiden saffron]

how goes it

fellow one piecers

[hollow dove]

Most of the end-game characters in this story didn't even appear until much later than Kid. Loki? Imu? Shamrock? Kid was introduced in 498, ended up making an appearance in landmark chapters 500 and 1000, while also being showcased at least once in every >99 chapter interval since introduction, constantly being reminded of his existence every now and then

[thick mango]

I really don't think imu will be resolved here. It's too soon. I imagine an ending similar to egghead where it's a frantic escape.
Why will imu be unable to pursue? Who can say it's way too early to know what haki Knot type thing oda might have up his sleeve

[dark stream]

we are discussing if Imu is secretely a naruto villain, if kid is done since he hasn't made an appearance on elbaph.

[hollow dove]

For a character that's never been part of the story like you say until Wano, that's pretty significant

[maiden saffron]

have a feeling that's not true

as for Kidd, i think he'll reappear

he's not out of the story yet

[keen falcon]

Yeah definitely not dying but I think another repeat of egghead isn't gonna just happen

[maiden saffron]

Kid and Law both have atleast 1 big thing remaining for them in the story

imo

[mint axle]

though, no one has really answered me why you guys think kid's still a significant into the story, and on what purpose

[dark stream]

I think it would be weird if it was resolved here with the build up since teh world governemnt is being shown as gbeing the main villain. Like whats teh point of the villain of the 800 year long conflict being defeated here without all the other characters.

[keen falcon]

They gotta figure out some way to weaken Imu so he retreats or something

[thick mango]

The way I see it it's the only option.
Forcing imu to retreat would undermine his menace. Essentially a straw hat victory over imu in their first proper appearance. It would be like luffys punch forcing kaido to retreat in wano act 1.
And obviously imu isn't gonna kill everyone here it's just not that kind of story

[hollow dove]

There's an idea I have in mind, but it always seems disallowed and discouraged to ever think outside the box in context to Kid

I'm currently making a theory like I said earlier, I can just ping you in bulk once it's all done later today

[keen falcon]

I don't see them simply escaping at sea without Imu following them to the ends of the earth, and again I still think we need more time at elbaf when we haven't seen one of the third layers, I'm very interested in where it will go

[mint axle]

you did mention about the magnetism thing that could be related to kid's power in defeating the HKs, but that's your head canon
like i said before, why would kid help luffy on defeating WG tho? wont it be more of him seeking revenge towards shanks

[dark stream]

the pace of the story makes me htink a lot of things that people want with side characters won't happen and I only trust Oda to finish the main beats and resolves things important to the strawhats . I don't thik we can count on things with other characters really being addressed especially when so much is now left to things like Vivre cards and SBS. Thats even stuff with the strawhats like Queen and Franky being related or Zoro's relationship with Wano etc. So I am skeptical of any character that played a major role in a previous arc being highyl relevant going forward.

[mint axle]

thats my only question

[prisma yacht]

Imu has lost the big fight already he isn't getting giants anymore

[keen falcon]

Imu could leave with some giants

Just not all of them

[prisma yacht]

Some yeah

[dark stream]

I think one possibility that people are discounting is that Imu destroys elbaph.

[maiden saffron]

This argument doesn't sit well with me, because yes, the story's pace has been faster but Oda hasn't toned side character stuff down at all. Oda is not gonna rush the final saga after spending this long to reach it.

Yes we may speed up a little to get to said events faster but they'll be done justice when they happen

[dark stream]

You just have luffy and some giants escape.

[thick mango]

I think escaping is the easiest way to enforce some limitation that doesn't undermine the threat of imu. If we could force imu to retreat with force and remain on elbaf that would essentially make him less threatening than the elders, which seems backwards to me. The result needs to be at least as bad as egghead, and it probably needs to go worse for the straw hats

Escape is the best case scenario

[hollow dove]

Steel is magnetic, not headcanon at all, but fact. The Shanks thing is exactly what I'm gonna address in the post-- I just don't want to give all my ideas out in a bare bones way in public here since I'm tired of getting jumped for having them 🤦‍♂️

[mint axle]

no lol why are you victimizing youself, you even called me kid hater, which i was just trying to have a nice conversation

but okay lol, i wont "jump" on you anymore

[prisma yacht]

Imu's motives have changed

[mint axle]

which part of my text is giving off a hater tone

if i was a hater id have rather said "kid is ass, he's just shanks copycat with ass ability, no use"

[keen falcon]

shanks copycat makes no sense

[lofty fern]

Just saw Tekking's review of the chapter and he brought up something interesting in that Imu spitting up blood might have come from the fact that he has to transform back to his original form. I didn't think of something that simple but it makes a lot of sense.
I also like all the new color variations for Imu. I do wonder which one will be the closest to reality

[maiden saffron]

yeah i thought that too

[mint axle]

yeah idk, which is why am i considered kid hater ?

[maiden saffron]

he was getting rid of his other body

[fiery spire]

You hate kid probably?

[mint axle]

lol

which part

[maiden saffron]

Would It be wrong to say that it's just a vibe? It's something I feel like that's gonna happen.

[fiery spire]

Haki from temu part

[dark stream]

This line of reasoning to me is wishful thinking. He isn't even addressing main things with the strawhats in arcs. We are getting those things in SBS. Kids back story was told in an SBS. Gecko Moria's relationship with Wano was told in a most recent SBS. The line of thinking that I thinking that I don't agree with is this idea that some how the story is incomplete without addressing every characters loose ends. The story in the end is Luffy and his crews story, the other characters are just of lesser importance and not really needed for completeness of story. Its only fans of those characters want those satories complete.

[keen falcon]

I'd change my tone and love Imu's design if he's actually a shapeshifter/body hopper and changes radically

[lofty fern]

I hearkened it to a chrysalis and a butterfly breaking out of its cocoon

[crisp helm]

It can be anything, but I'd bet on him leaving his location just based on the Gorosei's reaction

They were moreso worried about him leaving Marijoie than anything else

As if there was something about it

[mint axle]

well yea, that's your feeling and i get it. And it's also my feel that he wont be necessary to the story anymore, only cover page stories at best. which is why i was trying to discuss it out

[lofty fern]

I think he probably can shapeshift, though I think this is his true form. That's why Oda saved his title card until now

[maiden saffron]

Those things are not comparable to current day actions within the story. Backstories being in sbs aren't a bad thing cause I don't believe it's strictly necessary we have everything in the main story.

A character's role in the upcoming parts of the story cannot be comparable to that. We got one of the longest flashbacks in the "fast paced" era btw.

I agree with you on that part with backstories, and it's not something I consider a loose end specifically.

[keen falcon]

It was a total L not at all referencing in the story that Tama was a Kurozumi though imo

[lofty fern]

He also brought up something else that if all the elders are worried, that means they have seen this happen before and know the consequences. None of them are acting as if this occurring is unknown to them. So Imu might have left the holy land before.
He also points out that the oldest gorosei seems to be more okay with it compared to the newer ones, except garling who is probably trying to just not piss his boss off after just getting his new job.

[mint axle]

that'd be another 10 chapters of wano people having doubts on tama, but in the end she proved them wrong that not all kurozumis are bad oda simply skipped all that part

[crisp helm]

Who's the oldest Gorosei?

[keen falcon]

Which yeah is far more interesting than "this family == bad blood"

[lofty fern]

This is an assumption but if the number assigned to them indicates the order they became elders, the oldest would be Ju Peter

[mint axle]

i still take it that the line hiyori said is only specifically towards those kurozumi who's dictator line, not particularly all kurozumi

[crisp helm]

IDK, maybe.

The theory is contingent on multiple assumptions though

So we'll have to see

[keen falcon]

Yeah, but again that'd be nice for the story to have included that instead of just SBS

[maiden saffron]

Both Law and Kidd gained notoriety alongside Luffy. They were part of the biggest arc in the story and both faced crushing defeats afterwards. To me it just feels like setup for another return. I also think that if Luffy was to find out what happened to law, he'd want to help him. As for Kidd, I believe he has atleast one confrontation left with Shanks again.

[quiet ice]

I think the speeding up of things comes in like the panels. If you look at early one piece and even post time skip, you see like a lot of the in between stuff, motion etc. Now he’s just skipping that and giving us key frames as it were. Take the black beard in Amazon lily interaction. You have Hancock winding up an attack then the next page she’s being chocked by Teach. It felt really weird didn’t it?

[maiden saffron]

what's that command

[quiet ice]

Observer

[maiden saffron]

!observer

[tropic nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/164971940648321024/1168718450605170750/IMG_3464.jpg?ex=6552c8e0&is=654053e0&hm=b4cce3ef4621802017a536a0354082a4535d56030d88243a100d74a0f3cbf363&

[maiden saffron]

[mint axle]

law yes, i agree, since he's been part of the story even from punk hazard, and has purpose left in the story of learning the true meaning of his name D.
but kid's just like another worst gen character that's introduced in the story.. similarly to bege, so do you think bege will still appear in the story later on?

bege was introduced in sabaody like kid, and both reappeared after new world

[maiden saffron]

Yes, actually. I believe most characters will be part of the final saga

the ones who are alive and not in volcanoes

[willow pollen]

Guys nooooo Imu doesn’t have eyebrows 😭

[mint axle]

but again, what purpose? not something like "luffy helped me back then, so i will help him now on defeating WG" heck, kid's not even indebted to luffy

[keen falcon]

Bege's story is actually wrapped up in its entirety, I think Kid has a lot of story to tell with "recovering after experiencing wrath from his own actions" that would feel missing to me if not included

[mint axle]

it would be better for the grand fleet to get their moments during final war

not some random "has-been" characters which are done, suddenly appearing to help without purpose

[maiden saffron]

I don't actually judge or analyze the story with "weightages" like this. To me it's simply because it's grandiose, and cool. And I think oda wants the final saga to be grand.

[mint axle]

it will surely be grand, but an appearance without purpose kills the story, at least for me

[maiden saffron]

he'll obviously find a purpose

[keen falcon]

I don't see kid as being part of a final war portals scene yeah

[maiden saffron]

it's not like kidd will just show up and wave towards the camera and leave

[willow pollen]

Bruh with the steel heart and frankys comment about cyborg I was totally expecting imu to just be a robot WAIT wtf he had circuitry on his hand

[keen falcon]

I'd want to see him move on and accept he lost this race

[willow pollen]

Maybe he is a robot

[maiden saffron]

That's not like Kidd

and one piece isn't really a story about acceptance of one's limits

it'd be incredibly out of character if kidd just gave up

[willow pollen]

Or he just died

[maiden saffron]

well if he died

too bad !

[keen falcon]

Well he got his entire ship annihilated and lost his half of the road poneglyphs

[safe flint]

Why is Imu spitting blood? His time is running out or he's like that when he descends that's why the Elders are worried when he went out?

[maiden saffron]

Unlucky

[mint axle]

yeah, back again that's how we feel at the moment, once oda decided to link kid back to the story by giving him purpose then i can agree on him being back to the story, but still from current standpoint i cant see him having any spotlight in the future

[keen falcon]

Which would make it so interesting having the stakes being so high that even Kid would accept he can't do it

[maiden saffron]

but I don't think Kidd would give up cause of that

only way he doesn't return is if he's actually just dead

not breathing

[maiden saffron]

I think we're beyond the point of such things though. The stakes have been unreasonably high for quite some time in the story.

Luffy's obviously never gonna stop

[cold steppe]

There's nothing going on that concerns him anyway

[maiden saffron]

and Kidd returned even after being imprisoned by Kaido

[prisma yacht]

Koby will stop Luffy

[maiden saffron]

this is just the 2nd time a yonko has demolished kidd

[prisma yacht]

Why u sobbing

:

[cold steppe]

Them dreams never end

[maiden saffron]

also Imu is giant sized is he not

[cosmic hamlet]

The problem is that we are not getting any updates or hints that he will return in elbaf, unless you want him to return after elbaf somewhere else

[bold ice]

i mean those windows were comparing him to could be really small to a giant, so bare minimum king's height

[maiden saffron]

yeah im not holding out hope for anything kidd related during elbaf

got too much else going on atm

I'm really just wondering what happens here now

how do we maintain Imu's threat without killing everyone

cause obviously he's not gonna be defeated here

[cosmic hamlet]

Why do you want no one to die?

[maiden saffron]

well by "everyone" i mean the strawhats mostly

[cosmic hamlet]

I actually want one prominant character in elbaf to die

[maiden saffron]

people will probably die

yeah he'll probably kill jarul or something Lmfao

[cosmic hamlet]

Ehh, not jarul

He is already old

Killing him has no meaning

Or significance

[maiden saffron]

Killing saul would be needlessly cruel

poor robin

[cosmic hamlet]

Not saul either

Someone who has expectations for future

[maiden saffron]

I don't think that's gonna happen

[cosmic hamlet]

Someone from new giant warrior pirates maybe?

[maiden saffron]

because now the list is down to the kids, strawhats, loki and hajrudin

hajrudin maybe, but i don't really see it tbh

i dont think it really matters if someone of the new giant warrior pirates dies, It's probably not the death you're looking for

[cosmic hamlet]

There is one in new giant warrior pirates other than gerd, hajrudin and road

What was his name?

[maiden saffron]

I forgot aswell

[cosmic hamlet]

Hmm

[maiden saffron]

which hammers in my point more

Lmfao

[cosmic hamlet]

Dorry and broggy?

[maiden saffron]

I think Imuw ill just kill a bunch of giants, Dorry and brogy maybe yeah

[bold ice]

i dont think we should discount the possibility imu wins and everyone has to escaoe while imu secures the giants as his soldiers. Loki, saul, ripley, gaban, and NGWP get out on their ship and the strawhats have to run

Longshot, but still

[maiden saffron]

new giant warrior pirates remain, loki remains, the strawhats remain

but they may get scuffed up

[cosmic hamlet]

Ripley 😉

[maiden saffron]

Don't kill ripley man

[cosmic hamlet]

Maybe gunko will die

[maiden saffron]

yeah he might just kill all the knights on a whim

[cold steppe]

There probably going to be some despair. But I doubt It'll be another escape which was done just recently on egghead

Imu possibly retreats because of his condition or someone saves the day like marineford

[cosmic hamlet]

Is it me or it feels like oda is nerfing imu?

[maiden saffron]

I think it's too early to jump to a conclusion like that

Oda is not gonna nerf one of the 2 ultimate villains in the story

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm saying he already did in 2 instances

One is when harald was killed

Imu was nerfed

Nerfed in the sense that he was weakened

Now when he arrived in elbaf he was weakened

[cold steppe]

It seems implied he'll be at full power in the holy land

[maiden saffron]

maybe he's bleeding cause the outer world is literally hostile to him

[cosmic hamlet]

What is there in holy land?

[pulsar path]

Just don't kill Gerd!

[cosmic hamlet]

Is it the national treasure which doffy is talking about?

[pulsar path]

You can't kill her shes too innocent and is the best NamI clone

[bold ice]

shamrock at least is totally dead, killingham too maybe

[cosmic hamlet]

I wonder if mother flame can help imu

[quiet ice]

Usopp death…

[pulsar path]

Oh yeah Ripley's a mom shes dying 😭

[cold steppe]

I don't know. The gorosei were talking about how he can't leave and when he did he started coughing blood

[cosmic hamlet]

What if mother flame is not just for uranus but for imu too?

[cold steppe]

So I think Imu will be fought in the holy land

[grand rain]

im getting break week shakes

[pulsar path]

Probably but it's another mother so it will probably die lol

😭

[cosmic hamlet]

He was in pain and agony when he is transforming too

[maiden saffron]

Maybe he's literally energy to stay alive and that's why he cared so much about an infinite energy source.

that's all a possibility, but i think he might've been bleeding cause he broke out of his fake body

or whatever dark figure he turned himself into

like ripping himself out of it

[cosmic hamlet]

Thats what i thought too, but he spat out blood before he even started transforming

[pulsar path]

Seem to be leaving the holy land could it be being closer to water?

[cosmic hamlet]

🤨

[thick mango]

I dunno would someone weak to water be down to flood the world?

[pulsar path]

I mean they aren't planning on being near the flood

[cosmic hamlet]

Thats why they build red line?

[maiden saffron]

They're on the red line so they can flood the world and remain unaffected

[thick mango]

I guess if it's a far reaching enough effect to affect imu on top of elbaf castle it seems like any amount of flooding the world is risky and unwise long term

[cosmic hamlet]

Sea water being weakness makes sense because his ability is devil's fruit but that would be a very big weakness which luffy can explore

[maiden saffron]

I think it's possible that whatever's in Mariejois is keeping him alive for 800 years+

and being out of the holy land is actively hostile to him

[thick mango]

Maybe a steel heart

[maiden saffron]

it's either that or he's a receiver of an eternal youth surgery

[thick mango]

Maybe you put your real heart in stasis somehow and replace it

[cosmic hamlet]

Maybe it is something to do with the chambers? Where giant strawhat is stored?

They seem to be storing something in a freezer there

[pulsar path]

The red line is 10000 meters above sea level

Didn't it only raise 200 in the last 800

[thick mango]

Isn't the middle realm of elbaf also pretty high up?

[maiden saffron]

imu bleeding already is also implying that maybe the people just need to outlast him

instead of fight or defeat him outright

[cosmic hamlet]

Its mostly likely that he got it because ivankov mentioned it

[maiden saffron]

he'll try and kill them within the time he has left but he'll have to teleport back

and that's how we prevent imu being defeated + his threat being maintained cause while he's here

he'll cause a serious amount of chaos and damage

[dark stream]

I wnet to do errands. Again my point is that oda doesn't have to ahve any plans for the characters in question to finish the story. Almost every one piece arc we have major side characters that play integral roles to defeating the over arching enemies of the ark only for Oda to cast them aside at the end of arc. I think its fully feasible that Oda did the same with Kid and to the lesser extent law. But we'll see is correct, but so far I've found my track record on this stuff is pretty good, so your not going to convince me.

[cosmic hamlet]

So basically aura form and leave 😭

[maiden saffron]

yeah

[pulsar path]

Man I just don't know if that's smart

[maiden saffron]

I think it's a way for luffy and the others to see what they're up against as-well

[pulsar path]

It took away like half the tension from the gorsei now

[cosmic hamlet]

Garling seems to be the only one who has brain among the gorosei

[dark stream]

tahts because he's the only one who isn't senile

[pulsar path]

Like I literally almost laughed when warcury offered to go like bro wtf y'all going to do and I'm afraid that going to happen with Imu even if he beats ass

[maiden saffron]

Kidd and Law are unique cases though. I don't think they're comparable to characters like wyper, paulie, iceberg, pedro, carrot etc (which i assume is what you mean)

atleast imo

[pulsar path]

I dead ass think the rest of the gorsei will die if Imu leavs but garland cus he " younging " compared maybe will get a whole new gorsei crew

[pulsar path]

This is after they offered to go

Or before

[cosmic hamlet]

Before

[maiden saffron]

I think it just further hints at the outer world somehow being hostile towards imu + his presence in the holy land makes him the strongest and allows him to personally defend it

[dark stream]

I would have been inclined to agree with this if Oda didn't take both out in a matter of a chapter and destroyed their ships. For me that was a statement being made about their future relevance to the story. Destroying of the ship is relatively symbolic.

[prisma yacht]

I don't like pringles

[rare tangle]

it's devil fruit or devil's fruit?

[maiden saffron]

devil's fruit

i think

[cosmic hamlet]

No one knows actually

[prisma yacht]

Devil's fruit

[cosmic hamlet]

We only know this for sure

[pulsar path]

Dude is trying to go get his ass whooped again

[sleek plume]

Warcury sit your ass back down 😭

[cosmic hamlet]

Devil's fruit is meek and feeso interpretation, which i like tbh

[pulsar path]

Lmao my thoughts exactly like you really want this fire? Like sure you guys almost had Luffy but not Lokis involved 🤣 he's like twice as big as Emmett

[cosmic hamlet]

This view from the top is funny 😂😂

[pulsar path]

Eggman energy right?

[maiden saffron]

I feel like at this point, admirals might be stronger than the elders or it's very close

[fiery spire]

War curry

[thick mango]

Top man is as much a title as wss. Imu > warcury >>>>>>>>> everyone else

[cosmic hamlet]

Admirals are stronger than gorosei

[prisma yacht]

Warcury is a chud

[pulsar path]

Man idk

Kizaru

Tho heart wasn't in it

[prisma yacht]

Ethan is the real alpha

[cosmic hamlet]

I feel like akainu is definitely stronger than gorosei

[pulsar path]

Maybe the OG ones

Like sakazuki kizaru and kuzan

[maiden saffron]

Can't wait to see how they'll cook with imu ...

[sleek plume]

The admirals are stronger yeah I’d say, the goresei’s powers are just more peculiar

[maiden saffron]

Sakazuki, Kuzan and Borsalino

[pulsar path]

But idk about fujitora and green bull 🤔

[maiden saffron]

the new ones maybe not

Fujitora maybe ...

[cosmic hamlet]

For some reason, we haven't seen admirals go all out on screen till now

[maiden saffron]

Greenbull definitely not

Lmfao

[pulsar path]

I agree with this

[pulsar path]

Yeah green bull kidna disappointing

[prisma yacht]

Ethan and garling are stronger

[pulsar path]

But hey maybe he will be redeemed

[cosmic hamlet]

Fujitora was often underestimated but it could go either way i guess

[pulsar path]

People say he would have beat Fuji

I don't think so

[prisma yacht]

I think they fought

[sleek plume]

I hope to see a logia awakening from one of them, if it isn’t Teach

[prisma yacht]

During reverie was it?

[maiden saffron]

i think it'd probably end up being like

Akainu > Kizaru = Aokiji = Fujitora > Gb

[pulsar path]

They like clashed a lil

[maiden saffron]

which is fairly obvious i think

[alpine trench]

https://x.com/kwhundredk/status/2039915797683065245?s=46

HUNDRED (Commissions Open) (@kwhundredk)

NERONA IMU #ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 3, 2026, 4:00 AM

[prisma yacht]

Akainu~>kuzan > kizaru > fujitora~ gb

[pulsar path]

Other than sakuzuki going soft lmao for being behind a desk ( joking)

Now than how strong is Kong!???

[cosmic hamlet]

If the entire island is effected for months when they fought, surely they aren't going allout because of the collateral damage it can cause to the surroundings

[pulsar path]

And sengoku!??!

[sleek plume]

Fire

[cosmic hamlet]

It would be better if we talk less about him

[prisma yacht]

Goatgoku

[pulsar path]

He kidna is tho

[prisma yacht]

Pirate king level

[alpine trench]

https://x.com/kabachkitop/status/2039714727756996899?s=46 check this out

Vinsent (COMMISSIONS OPEN) (@kabachkitop)

quick Imu sketch

#ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 2, 2026, 2:41 PM

[cosmic hamlet]

I have seen this in twitter yeah

[willow pollen]

He’s a cyborg devil angel man

[pulsar path]

Imu Imu Imu

Where's shiki shiki shiki

[maiden saffron]

dead

[sleek plume]

Yeah this was made apparent when Fujitora and GB were fighting in the holy land, Akainu said they’re making excuses but I think he’s just chatting lol

[willow pollen]

Personally I think imu is occupying lily’s body (that’s why he’s coughing) and he needs a new body (vivi)

[cosmic hamlet]

Illmatic, which skin color you will pick? From 1-12

[pulsar path]

oda confirmed he's still alive at 70 something

[willow pollen]

He’s clearly red

[maiden saffron]

DEAD !

[prisma yacht]

Redemption

[sleek plume]

I gotta say I’m glad Oda went with the double ringed eyes for Imu, it’s a minor detail but added so much to the design that we just got for him

[maiden saffron]

think he's lunarian

[willow pollen]

10 or 6

[pulsar path]

I need Jamaican pirate!

[cosmic hamlet]

I wonder when we will see akainu fight again 😭

[pulsar path]

Isn't robins form

Red

[prisma yacht]

When sabo will get his ass

[pulsar path]

Or is that fan coloring

[alpine trench]

Imu having the exact opposite aesthetic to Luffy in design is genius ngl

[cosmic hamlet]

Don't see flames and wings are different 🤨

[prisma yacht]

Rat king

[maiden saffron]

the flame is in the holy land

[sterile fjord]

here is extra one...

[maiden saffron]

and the wings are different because cool ...

[rose rune]

he's purring. obviously he's a cat

[cosmic hamlet]

[pulsar path]

How many eyes appear on his god cloud

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/breaktimr-smoking-hot-gif-25651682

[sleek plume]

Final war probably, he’s the fleet admiral now so he is not going to come out and personally fight if it isn’t a last resort

[cosmic hamlet]

There was one similar to this where tattoos are glowing

Earl shared it but I can't find it because he shared in spoiler2

[cosmic hamlet]

@sleek plume find this in spoiler 2 for me. I replied with something like glow or glowing. Search in my messages with that

[sleek plume]

Oh yeah his wallpaper

[sterile fjord]

oh!! I found it on twt... took it as my pfp for a day... need to remove cuz I've spoiling everywhere with that pfp

[cosmic hamlet]

So he will only fight again against sabo

[rose rune]

Damnit cat.... I wasn't done drinking that

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah, that would be a big spoiler

[sleek plume]

It’s AI sadly but this is what he sent

[cosmic hamlet]

Time for

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cat-cat-sandwich-sandwich-cat-food-cat-tiny-kitten-gif-25788888

[cosmic hamlet]

Lol he kept it as wallpaper? 😭

[sterile fjord]

I got scolded... for that in different server too😭

whose rule is no spoilers

[sleek plume]

Yep lmao

[willow pollen]

Bruh I can already see meek glazing imu 😭

[cosmic hamlet]

I have seen AI coloring where it changed a big and added some details in that imu standing on top panel

[rose rune]

... he is

he popped in yesterday

[prisma idol]

Speaking of i might use this as wallpaper

[cosmic hamlet]

He already made a series

"We have come a long way"

[sterile fjord]

this one is so coool

[willow pollen]

Never change meek

[cosmic hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[sterile fjord]

I got a meme... (He Laughed)

[sleek plume]

Imu’s really about to clean house, they won’t be push to a full transformation here

This will be enough

[prisma idol]

Morj hasnt dropped his opinion yet, meek doesnt have one either

[cosmic hamlet]

This is the one I'm talking about, look at right side. More details are added that was not in manga

There are more like this

[sleek plume]

😭

Bros right hand is gone

[maiden saffron]

i feel like the right side on that is incomprehensible

is it AI Lmfao?

[cosmic hamlet]

I know right

[sleek plume]

Yeah

[prisma idol]

Its a mix of the AI upscale and their own thing

[cosmic hamlet]

Definitely

[alpine trench]

https://x.com/peachmichea/status/2039827410971926545?s=46

peachmichea ★ commission open (@peachmichea)

omg they made them emo

#ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 2, 2026, 10:08 PM

[cosmic hamlet]

Thats what I'm walking about

They are using AI to fill the details

[prisma idol]

I saw one similar to this with the famous painting pose

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah

[prisma idol]

It might be the same person

[alpine trench]

Fallen Angel

Yeah I saw that

[prisma idol]

Yeah

[sleek plume]

This one’s my fav I think

https://x.com/_franas/status/2039730129161564634?s=46

franas (@_franas)

Saint Nerona Imu #ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 2, 2026, 3:42 PM

[prisma idol]

They have him resting his hand on his face but like... he was grabbing his face like he had a headache

[cosmic hamlet]

Oda's favourite

[maiden saffron]

wonder what colors he will be

[cosmic hamlet]

Imu is a goblin

[pulsar path]

Is this what Rocks wa waiting for

[prisma idol]

Im thinking the light red skin, white hair

[pulsar path]

Like he found out you cant kill Imu from holy land

[prisma idol]

Very close to what zurq posted

[pulsar path]

And when he faces him in g valley it wasnt his real body

[cunning jacinth]

second row left

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't want it to be bright red

[sleek plume]

Yeah I like the change, we only get to see his face in the very last panel

[cunning jacinth]

he said he'd come back right here though (as in the flower garden)

[sleek plume]

he’s either dark skinned like King or will be dark red like your average devil probably

[prisma idol]

Next chapter will have him farming we just have to wait... 2 weekz

[cosmic hamlet]

Doesn't matter, toei will make him white

[cosmic hamlet]

What I'm saying is that, i would prefer 6 or 10 kinda red over 5 kinda red

[sleek plume]

Looking forward to that close up shot of his full design

[solar dragon]

a

[pulsar path]

Hmm true but heya I would say is he could remeet Imu in holy land but only with the the darkness fruit but without it he could kill Imu on the ground level or he thought if it was his real body other wise other than desperation why would he attack Imu during god valley and expect to even win at that point.

[solar dragon]

I agree that ll the other characters didn't have well-thought over ethinicities and they don't really apply, but there is reasons between reasons on why Oda picked Luffy as being Brazilian. When One Piece is over Oda will probably be more 'out there' and when he is, I hope someone interviews him. But it becomes clearer every passing day for the average Brazilian the connection Luffy has to Brazil. And soon it will also be revealed to the whole world I guess, and they will understand. First of all, Brazil is the country with the largest Japenese descendant population IN THE WORLD, so a theory I have is that Oda visited Brazil a lot and watched Capoeira performances and 100% studied its history. You can never be so sure about things in life but I'm 99% sure this is the case. Although some might say because I'm Brazilian I may have a bias on this, I was actually completely contrary to this idea, until Nika Gear 5 came out. Second, Rubber is originally from Brazil, Brazil invented what's now rubber, it 100% comes from Brazil, no question. Third, Luffy's strawhat is what we use in Brazilian festivals such as Festa Junina. You could say that many countries have straw hats which is true, but the style is definitely Brazilian. The first and third reason it is all from appeareance except for the second reason (rubber and such) and it's all before Nika even made its appearance (by the way, I only watch the anime).

Those were ehh reasons, not too bad but not too great either.

But once Nika came, HA! MY FRIEND MY FRIEND... things shifted. The connection each Brazilian had culturally to seeing Nika on the screens I don't think any of you from any other country will experience in your lives when relating to Luffy. It stops being just bias, it stops being just fanboyzy stuff. It becomes real, tangible and provable with evidence and logic. This is when the prior 'ehh' reasons has its awakening together with Luffy's devil fruit and with many other Brazilians, we all awakened.

[cunning jacinth]

actually second row right i changed my mind lol

[solar dragon]

Capoeira distinctively comes from Brazil, it's a martial art used to kill Portuguese soldiers in the Brazilian African slavery period. It was disguised as a dance with a very familiar rythm to all of us (Drums of Liberation) because if it was known that the dance was a martial art, it would be banned and Portuguese guards would disallow the practice of it. Some people from some other countries say that their drums sound like it, but I've searched and heard them all, none like Brazil. Also, Nika is not inspired by no real life sun God, it's inspired by the concept of liberation of the African Brazilian people. Sun God is just something to make it "look cool".
In Capoeira there is a rule our teachers tell us to follow: always smile. This was an early Capoeira philosophy to make it look like a dance—which this is also Gear 5 in One Piece, where Luffy fights while laughing and expressing pure joy even in combat. Another rule is to add goofy swings to your every move, a rule is that you gotta act and be playful—which this is also Gear 5, since Luffy’s attacks become exaggerated, cartoon-like, and intentionally playful rather than serious martial strikes. Another rule is to “dance within rhythm” of the drums but you CAN have flow, improvisation and unpredictability—which this is also Gear 5, because his “Drums of Liberation” heartbeat acts like a guiding rhythm while his fighting style is completely improvised, chaotic, and free-form. You wear white as your capoeira fit, and they added ropes around the waist for Capoeira belts, white is the highest possible—which this is also Gear 5, since Luffy’s transformation turns him into a bright white, elevated form that visually represents his peak state and symbolic “freedom awakening.”

So don't tell me your country this, your country that. Before Gear 5 I would kinda listen but right now Brazilian feel the most connected with Luffy and there are reasons for it. No other country has that type of connection right now, sorry. Maybe you have with Usopp, Nami, Sanji or Zoro, I don't know. But not with Luffy, not like us.

[cosmic hamlet]

Next chapter we switch to outside of elbaf. We see shanks and blackbeard clashing

[cunning jacinth]

holy tldr calm down there brigadeiro

[maiden saffron]

who are you talking to @solar dragon

[cosmic hamlet]

Lol

[cunning jacinth]

but with redder eyes pls

[maiden saffron]

6 and 7 look good to me

[solar dragon]

TO EVERY FUCKING ONE

[storm anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/please-stop-please-stop-matpat-meme-matpat-gif-1403963513819787752

[cosmic hamlet]

Start with a hello 😉

[cunning jacinth]

Imu having red skin would feel....weird to me because it would make his red eyes look less distinct

[sleek plume]

10 looks pretty cool, though I don’t know why they gave him extra tattoos on 6

[solar dragon]

gotta spread the truth man, gotta say it 🤷

[maiden saffron]

Awesome man, thank you for your essays but it was a little weird coming out of nowhere

looked like you were fighting imaginary battles

all good though

[prisma idol]

7 or 10

[solar dragon]

people gotta wake up to what gear 5 really is

[maiden saffron]

what gear 5 really is

is awesome

:)

[cunning jacinth]

i hope Brazilian Miku & Luffy are friends

[solar dragon]

spreadin the gospel of gear 5

[storm anvil]

2nd or 6 looks good to me

[cosmic hamlet]

They want to make it look cool😭

This not done by same artist, someone combined all variants from different artists and made this I think

[rose rune]

isn't 4 and 9 the same picture?

[cosmic hamlet]

What color do you all think imu's eyes are?

[sterile fjord]

red

[storm anvil]

red?

[prisma idol]

Hmm let me put some thought into this

[cosmic hamlet]

You are right 😭😭

Okay okay I'm dumb 🙁

Then why tf people using different colors in arts?

I see white, gold and shit

[rose rune]

seems like some sort of eye related disease

[pulsar path]

Connection right?

[maiden saffron]

yeah red is the color of the devil

imu will probably be red

like devil robin

[cosmic hamlet]

I have seen this lol

[pulsar path]

How come there noses are identical

To me robins look more like the giant beast in the mural than Imu

[maiden saffron]

Maybe the idea of what the devil looks like in One Piece originated from Imu's appearance

therefore every depiction of the devil looks kind of like him

[cosmic hamlet]

Wait, do you think toei will make the magic circle to rotate like this?

[maiden saffron]

i dont think they did that for the gorosei

so probably not

[cosmic hamlet]

Gorosei were on the ground right

[maiden saffron]

yeah

but that shouldnt matter i think

[cunning jacinth]

Imu's circle is cooler so i hope it rotates

[cosmic hamlet]

Why is there a magic circle on the sky in the first place?

[sterile fjord]

Guys...Glazing Ussop in VC...😭

[maiden saffron]

I think imu just has a cooler portal for himself

compared to others

[prisma yacht]

godsopp

[cosmic hamlet]

So just aura farming thing

There is nothing the sky magic circle did?

[sterile fjord]

Go D. Ussop

[maiden saffron]

yeah same with the other dark pillars coming out and infecting the houses and stuff

i think its just meant to communicate that this is another level

not the baby shit we're used to

[sterile fjord]

They are saying that... ussop gonna pick ragnir and become thor of one piece...😭

[cosmic hamlet]

Toei will use too much aura for this

[pulsar path]

I mean idk cus wait are those horns his devil fruit or like Yamatos

[maiden saffron]

how many chapters in elbaf so far?

[cosmic hamlet]

54

[pulsar path]

Cus Yamato pretty much has the same horns when they transform

[maiden saffron]

hmm

do you think the OP anime can actually reach this point within it's 24 episode runtime?

[cosmic hamlet]

26 or less chapters left in elbaf

[maiden saffron]

i think it's very unlikely

[pulsar path]

Robin obviously doesn't

[maiden saffron]

26 more??

[cosmic hamlet]

This year?

[maiden saffron]

feel like that's way too high

[cosmic hamlet]

No way

[pulsar path]

5 chapter an episode 🤤

[cosmic hamlet]

Yes, i believe elbaf will be 70-80 chapter arc. 85 at max

[cunning jacinth]

absolutely disgusting

[hazy ether]

Late 2027 you will prob see the imu stuff

[muted hedge]

fingerlickin' goodness

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't even think they might reach it next year

[prisma yacht]

there are atleast 15 chapters more in elbaf

ATLEAST

[cosmic hamlet]

Nobody is denying this

We are at 54. 70-80 means atleast 16

[prisma yacht]

20-25 shld be ideal

20-25 more*

[hazy ether]

Do yall see of any way of the final war happening in elbaf?

[cosmic hamlet]

No

[pulsar path]

I mean the mural is all elbaf tho

[cunning jacinth]

i genuinely hope the anime doesn't do more than 1.5 mayyyybe sometimes 2 chapters an episode. because the pacing in the manga is already fast enough to justify the anime extending scenes

[pulsar path]

It's centered around it cus personally that looks more like the future than the past to me

[teal galleon]

Yes

[cunning jacinth]

i really don't want the anime to abruptly turn into a tiktok reel of hype moments 80% of the way into the story :|

[pulsar path]

Na man it should be at the very least 2 chapters and epsidoe one chapter isnt really enough content for 20 min

[maiden saffron]

nami sensing imu's arrival based on the weather before anyone noticing the haki and the portals

[pulsar path]

Rewatching onepeice is like so rocky

[prisma yacht]

neronami

[pulsar path]

When it could be Amazon g

[hazy ether]

Either haki or just her good observation of weather changing

[cunning jacinth]

i guess im just more used to the slower pacing ;-;

[pulsar path]

Like no anime does this

But onepeice

[cunning jacinth]

like the pacing of the og anime is a problem but having it rushed would be even worse than dragging it out imo

[cosmic hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[pulsar path]

The og anime pacing is good it's like 3-5 chapters per episode up to enis Lobby

[cunning jacinth]

i really hope they don't overcorrect for how slow the anime used to be and start rushing instead

[pulsar path]

Maybe more like 2-5

[hazy turret]

Bro

[hazy ether]

I think pacing for this arc will be better. Seasonal will suck in the fact it will take us orb til 2028 to finish elbaf but it’ll be worth

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/memerdaa/status/2039847809516491174/photo/1

Memed (@memerdaa)

Imu Sama
#ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 2, 2026, 11:29 PM

[cunning jacinth]

hmm was it really? i'd need to check that, but i also think that final saga chapters are much faster-paced and more information-dense than pre-timeskip chapters

[hazy turret]

@pulsar timber @urban lodge

[cosmic hamlet]

https://x.com/i/status/2039701791130992948

Kallz 🎩🔞 (@HiddenKallz)

Imu femboy? #ONEPIECE1179 #Imu

X · Apr 2, 2026, 1:49 PM

[cunning jacinth]

which to me justifies having less chapters per episode, especially if the anime adds things that were offscreened in the manga for example

[cunning jacinth]

ok that just looks weird LOL

[hazy turret]

Why is he white….?

[cunning jacinth]

why are his horns so weird looking 😭

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't know, ask the artist 😭

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/hollowdsurebrec/status/2039801897368895857/photo/1

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KING OF THE WORLD
SAINT NERONA IMU
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#ワンピース #imu

X · Apr 2, 2026, 8:27 PM

[cunning jacinth]

as long as it's well-paced while still giving the story time to breathe w/o rushing i'll be happy :p

[hazy ether]

Yea 13 episodes then heroines then 13 more in October will be good im sure they know what they’re doing

[prisma yacht]

firee

[pulsar path]

Over exaggerated with 5 but about 1.5-2.5

[muted hedge]

it's torture having to wait for the colors lol

[prisma yacht]

lol

[muted hedge]

i wish a magazine leaked with them now

[prisma yacht]

hopefully we get a colorspread

next week

[cunning jacinth]

1.5 per episode would be fine imo. 2.5 might be a little too quick, but it depends on the chapter too

[pulsar path]

Dudes going to have the weirdest colors ever

[cunning jacinth]

like chapter 1179 could easily be covered in half an episode i feel

[cosmic hamlet]

https://x.com/i/status/2039743780580958504

Ririᢉ𐭩 (@Reiobii)

#ONEPIECE1179 ||

Nerona imu

X · Apr 2, 2026, 4:36 PM

I really like this one

[cunning jacinth]

alternate universe where Imu ate the Nika fruit and Joyboy ate the devil one

[cosmic hamlet]

https://x.com/i/status/2039931937536553132

Void (@Void_Art01)

Imu , The king of the world ♨️
#ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 3, 2026, 5:04 AM

Wtf?

[pulsar path]

I think they should just fill an episode with amount of content necessary and not try to fit or stretch stuff

[cunning jacinth]

i agree w the caveat that some things that aren't fleshed out in the manga could be included too

[pulsar path]

I mean tbh they look very Nika like

[cunning jacinth]

like offscreen or rushed fights

[pulsar path]

This is always a 50 50 if they can pull it off or not like Lucci ba Zoro was good but also a lot of people hate it

[cosmic hamlet]

https://x.com/i/status/2039790022065270821

Ｐｈａｎｔｏｍ (@b_sarimbo)

Saint Nerona imu
#ONEPIECE1179 #ONEPIECE

X · Apr 2, 2026, 7:40 PM

[muted hedge]

https://fixupx.com/musingsofohara/status/2039790727182287285
red feels likely

dai🌸 (@musingsofohara)

so i have this theory and i want you to walk with me here

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FixupX · Apr 2, 2026, 7:43 PM

[cosmic hamlet]

This is pretty good

Sabaku 😡

[cunning jacinth]

oo love this

[cunning jacinth]

i don't see Imu having red skin because it would diminish how distinctive his red eyes are

[muted hedge]

not if it's dark red

[cosmic hamlet]

[cunning jacinth]

fr these designs are so cool though

all 3 of them

[muted hedge]

though i think that gray skin would look dope

it would really make the details pop

[prisma yacht]

they actually forgot lmao

[knotty root]

Some say he's a lunarian, so brown

[cosmic hamlet]

Shhhh 🤫

[prisma yacht]

this is supposed to be a hybrid form so idont think its gonna be brown

[muted hedge]

i don't think he is a lunarian though, he doesn't have any other trait from the lunarians outside of the dark skin

[crisp python]

Do you guys think when Imu appeared as King Nerona Imu in front of the other 19 Kings 900 years ago, he looked exactly like the one we just saw in 1179?

[quiet ice]

The hair?

[muted hedge]

well, if it really is white then sure

we still don't know the color of it

[knotty root]

True, though iirc when imu was transforming they were a pair of wings coming out. But still it could just be his powers

[muted hedge]

i am leaning on the latter, we saw when Gunko was taken over they had demonic wings

[pulsar path]

Well tbh we just need chopper to slap the devil out of Imu

[pulsar path]

I mean like is this just Gunko powers?.

[muted hedge]

it's when Imu posessed them

so i think it's Imu's powers mainly

[pulsar path]

It's all " arrow" themed

[muted hedge]

i don't think it is

[pulsar path]

It's not the same weapon as Imu

[cosmic hamlet]

What is arrow themed in that image?

[muted hedge]

the devil's tail is arrow lookin' but that's just the design of the tail

we saw Imu this chapter have a similair tail

[pulsar path]

Um the three point Trident

The tail is an arrow

[cosmic hamlet]

Imu also has a arrow tail

[pulsar path]

Sure but it's 15 times longer

[muted hedge]

Imu probably has an infinite pocket of various weapons, given they were able to summon a shotgun etc.

[pulsar path]

Also robin has wings lol

Before and after her transformation

Out of hands

We seen gunko is very creative with her arrows

[muted hedge]

yes but this is after Imu took over

[fossil nimbus]

.

[muted hedge]

so it's fair to assume that this is mainly Imu's power

[pulsar path]

Yeah idk

[muted hedge]

can't wait to see this grimoire being used again

[shadow knoll]

Lunarian Imu

The horns look great though

Joyboy and Davy Jones reveal is left

Joyboy is just gonna look like Roger and Luffy, but even more eugenics

And Davy Jones... probably like Rocks

[muted hedge]

i think Davy Jones is going to look more like Blackbeard

[safe cove]

https://x.com/i/status/2039915797683065245

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NERONA IMU #ONEPIECE1179

X · Apr 3, 2026, 4:00 AM

[shadow knoll]

Honestly I like the design

Fits his storyline pretty well

[muted hedge]

the literal devil

[shadow knoll]

Just, I was still coping it was gonna Nefertari queen of void century

[atomic spindle]

The most racist mf in OP verse turned out to be most mixed races looking guy

[atomic spindle]

It seems he left that vessel in the castle

[shadow knoll]

I mean there's definitely a reason behind it

[safe cove]

I doubt he's black tho, he prolly has red skin like devil

[rich sail]

bro in the latest chapter it says
WORLD GOVERnMEnT CREATOR
OnE OF THE FIRST 20
ABILITY: DEVIL'S FRUIT*
does that mean imu doesnt have a devil fruit and he was born with a ability instead? and he is the devil instead?

[shadow knoll]

Wait what

[willow pollen]

No he transformed

[safe cove]

but yeah lots of ppl already whitewashed him lol

[muted hedge]

i think he'll be either red or gray

[shadow knoll]

I think it might Kaido's commander dude

like dat skin tone

[atomic spindle]

The transformation looked like he left the previous body

[shadow knoll]

Then where he get new body?

[muted hedge]

all of them look so good, lol

[safe cove]

bottom left looks best imo, but with red eyes

[shadow knoll]

It's too early, don't assume anything

[cold steppe]

He looks like loki calgara robin fused and went g5

[shadow knoll]

Yeah

[atomic spindle]

Dude just this week I was thinking how much Imu ressembles Orochimaru

[shadow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/king-one-piece-fire-lunarian-alber-gif-6807844285701314676

[safe cove]

nah he ain't lunarian

he doesn't have flames on his back

[shadow knoll]

nah im talkin bt the skin tone

[high wolf]

King mogs

[safe cove]

oh yeah

[cold steppe]

I'm surprised people first thought was lunarians. He looked closer to shandians to me

[safe cove]

king tbh is more handsome but imu has a different aura

[atomic spindle]

Imu looks like he is a mix of races and devil fruits abilities

[cold steppe]

I'm predicting he is human

[high wolf]

Imu has that ominous villain aura

[cold steppe]

Or was

[shadow knoll]

Nah, Imu is getting hella fangirls now

[safe cove]

he's still human i think, it just it's his hybird form

[shadow knoll]

they gonna be freaky

[safe cove]

or full zoan even

[muted hedge]

by the way what are the chance that Imu is hiding a third eye

[atomic spindle]

His face looks like Killingham

[shadow knoll]

not zero

[high wolf]

Not impossible

[safe cove]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-cat-cat-freaky-cat-freaky-tongue-freaky-cat-tongue-freaky-tongue-gif-11560619178986255398

[celest mauve]

https://x.com/mazaochizao/status/2039796630895898807

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Imu design

X · Apr 2, 2026, 8:06 PM

[muted hedge]

an awakened third eye this time

unlike Pudding

[willow pollen]

Or it’s the other way around all these different races are descendant from imu

We already established this arc of specific features passed down through the giants

The ancient giants have horns, some look very similar to imu

So I propose all the features from the different races that look like imu are just diluted versions of his blood

[shadow knoll]

mmm

[willow pollen]

I just came up with this idea

It’s original from me don’t steal it

[shadow knoll]

Adding that staff was such a good decision

[cold steppe]

Usopp upscale

[muted hedge]

all father Imu

[cold steppe]

Great art tho

[safe cove]

same guy btw

[shadow knoll]

even in this chapter btw

Bro was tweaking out on those flashbacks

[willow pollen]

I just know the anime staff is kicking themselves because imus old design was so easy to animate and the new one looks like HELL

[muted hedge]

i think they're excited

[shadow knoll]

Imu is just a vietnam war veteran with ptsd

[atomic spindle]

Maybe the multiple devil fruit eating ability is a feature that comes originally from him
He also has three skulls symbol

[safe cove]

and have a fraud squad

[celest mauve]

if I didn't know the character on the right was imu, I would've thought he'd be a really cool major supporting character in a manga about japanese folklore

but no that's the literal devil of OP 💀

[shadow knoll]

[safe cove]

ngl his design is really not like a one piece character lmao

[shadow knoll]

My first thought on his design was Berserk-ish

[celest mauve]

I think that's probably the point, he's an 800+ y/o man from a completely different time

[muted hedge]

it's looking like the black blob form of Imu is a sort of supressed state

[safe cove]

pretty sure oda really wanted imu to wear the rider jacket + pants but the editor forbade it

[ruby cape]

This weapon could probably shapeshift

[celest mauve]

I really wonder what the other 19 kings were like

[atomic spindle]

I think this is his hybird form

[willow pollen]

These are the types of chapters I read one piece for

The build up from this panel to the reveal was so good I can’t believe it

[muted hedge]

i think that this is his original form, not any particular transformation just a version of himself which isn't supressed

[safe cove]

I bet his human form gonna looks like griffith

[willow pollen]

Nah it’s gonna be a woman

[shadow knoll]

And a bit Code Geass

[safe cove]

also i really love these two pages

[muted hedge]

curious that they still call Blackbeard, Marshall D.

[shadow knoll]

hmm i thought the same

[remote sequoia]

what y'all think about his horns, maybe hinting at some ancient lineage?

[muted hedge]

i mean Imu is ancient

[willow pollen]

This is probably a flashback

[atomic spindle]

He has clouds floating, unless he is a devil and not some user it's a transformation

[safe cove]

that his power, devil

[shadow knoll]

nah he used hot glue and paper cones

[willow pollen]

No it’s the other way around imu features are the ancient ones all the features we see now descended from him

[shadow knoll]

[muted hedge]

i think that unlike other devil fruit users who need to power themselves up, i think that Imu is supressing himself instead, it would work with the idea of this being the origin to all devil fruits as well if Imu the user of this power would need to suppress their own strength as it's otherwise overwhelming, maybe even leading into why they felt the need to become immortal in the first place

speaking of clouds, i hope that he hops on a black cloud next chapter and uses it like a nimbus

[shadow knoll]

akuma no mi, huh

[muted hedge]

yeah, probably

[celest mauve]

I just remembered, every arc has a timer

this arc's timer is imu's health

[serene plume]

elbaf itself has been kinda mid but the arc as a whole has been so goated man

[celest mauve]

how long can the SHs and co. survive until imu has to return, that's gotta be the climax

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/PurpleLizardMan/status/2039908300532158762/photo/1
there's something about the design which just screams Sun Wukong to me

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X · Apr 3, 2026, 3:30 AM

[serene plume]

Its kinda set up for dragon to save them as much as i hate dragon

[celest mauve]

clouds, staff, stance

[muted hedge]

it's like Sun Wukong merged with the devil

[barren token]

hey everyone what did we think of the chapter

how are we feeling about IMu

[muted hedge]

10/10 easily

[celest mauve]

yeah, I also thought he looks like the dark version of nika

[barren token]

should he have been a sexy chick with big naturals?

[atomic spindle]

Imu is the equivalent of joyboy not nika
He is a df user not the original demon

[safe cove]

If Imu wasn't cursed, or whatever he was going through right now, they would all die here lol

[muted hedge]

agreed, he looks a lot like the Nika we've seen in Elbaph specifically with the long flowing hair only thing which doesn't match is the white ribbon scarf

almost one to one, lol

if we'd exclude the devil features Imu has

[serene plume]

joyboy and imu are two brothers who fought for lili

💔 😢

[warm fossil]

cringe piece

[celest mauve]

I think I'd rate the void century flashback a 2/10 at most if a fucking love triangle was the catalyst for joyboy vs imu

[warm fossil]

2/10 is generous

[barren token]

what if lili was bad as hell

[warm fossil]

we know she wasn't

[safe cove]

she's just... vivi

i mean vivi is very pretty

[barren token]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-la-miss-wednesday-charming-perfume-dance

[muted hedge]

i hope that Imu hits this pose the next chapter, lol

[celest mauve]

reminder that whatever imu shows now in combat, EOS luffy is going to be stronger or at least at the same level

[muted hedge]

Luffy will be stronger than everyone

[celest mauve]

yeah, I'm just thinking about imu's possible feats and how luffy is going to eventually surpass that

[pulsar path]

How come king neptunian fubs never split

[muted hedge]

i think that Imu will remark how unexperienced Luffy is with the powers of Nika

[pulsar path]

Fins*

[celest mauve]

yeah, joyboy must have used all kinds of powers luffy doesn't even know about

[muted hedge]

most definitely

https://fixupx.com/KirigayaShimo/status/2039789863117918439
or it's just Oda being inconsistent..

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FixupX · Apr 2, 2026, 7:39 PM

[cunning jacinth]

im sure we'll be introduced to all of them in the VC flashback

and yea Imu's big. iirc he dwarfed the Gorosei when they transformed against Sabo

[pulsar path]

How could we compare to Loki? I'm guessing they are large or oda screwed up

[serene plume]

Dont put too much faith in oda

Im still traumatized by egghead gorosei

[pulsar path]

I don't think it would be weird if they were giant sized tho

[warm sierra]

the thing is dont they look kinda human sized next to their attendant? And if they are huge what size dimension has the frozen strawhat then?

[muted hedge]

well they're just drawing estemations based on the castle spire being made for giants and Imu essentialy fitting in with the scale

[muted hedge]

Imu probably has a similair size manipulation as Luffy is able to do

[cunning jacinth]

well they were probably much bigger on Egghead than they were in the throne room. but yea Imu should be bigger than they are

[pulsar path]

I hope not tbh

[celest mauve]

imu could kill all five elders if he felt like it going by saturn's death, the basic expectation is that imu's a bigger threat than all of them (but I get the fear of oda potentially not delivering)

[cunning jacinth]

hmm it clearly was some kind of transformation

[pulsar path]

I really don't want it to be 1-1 powers

[serene plume]

i would rather he stays just a bit bigger than the average human

not as big as wb for example

[cunning jacinth]

normal Imu is definitely smaller lol

[willow pollen]

No he’s definitely big even in the mural

[cunning jacinth]

im sure Oda will deliver. Imu's been portrayed as pretty insanely powerful so far

[warm sierra]

the killing off the elders isnt really a strength feat though, its just voiding the contract

[muted hedge]

yeah for sure, but i mean in the state he currently is in

that looks more like a hybrid form or a full zoan state

[pulsar path]

Tbh is he the big shadow or the weird Loki character? he doesn't have a hammer

[willow pollen]

The big shadow

He even got the wings

[muted hedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-im-sama

this is probably his fully transformed state

[pulsar path]

Pretty sure that will be a dragon

[muted hedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-imu-the-king-of-the-empty-throne-one-piece-imu-vs-sabo

then we also have this

could be the same transformation

[pulsar path]

Dragons and Satan are synonymous

[muted hedge]

just a different angle

[ruby cape]

https://d.tnktok.com/ZNRXeePUd/ oh my god

[pulsar path]

Man bb cant kill this dude fast enough 🤣

[muted hedge]

Blackbeard and Luffy will need to team up

just like Joyboy and Davy Jones

[maiden saffron]

Do you think by the ending, Bb will have claimed Imu's power for himself?

[muted hedge]

i don't think so

[willow pollen]

His ability is literally devils fruit

He created them

[safe cove]

two of imu's most feared

[willow pollen]

Maybe imu is taking peoples dreams and trapping them in fruits

So he trapped nika in a fruit

[ruby cape]

I’m on either that or the Kraken

But main thing is I’m absolutely on him being the final antagonist

[pulsar path]

I don't think BB want it I think he just wants king of the world......dolfamingo can tho

[willow pollen]

But he’s fucking him

[frail kindle]

HE'S WHAT

[willow pollen]

No not like that 😭

[muted hedge]

i am leaning towards Imu possessing every devil fruit ability at this point

truly the originiator of them all, encompassing each and every one of them

[pulsar path]

This had been my theory for a while like he's a dream eater that feeds on other dreams than when necessary uses the dreams to create powers

[frail kindle]

imu is probably the forest god from the mural and has the ability to give people demon powers

[safe cove]

devil's fruit

that could mean either his ability is to create devil fruit or it is the first, the original devil fruit

[serene plume]

its time for carrot to come out the barrel

so imu can kill her

[pulsar path]

I think it's very possible cus of the dancing trees that shit weird

[muted hedge]

i wonder who the earth god would be then

[ruby cape]

The number of people that said Imu ate one of the first 20 devil fruits made me giggle

[muted hedge]

the one who unleashed the hellfire serpent

[pulsar path]

Or it's just the devil fruit

[frail kindle]

I don't think its an actual person, but maybe the ancient people were mining so much of that energy from the core of the planet that it caused the red line to pop up

[safe cove]

true, instead of calling the fruit devil devil fruit model devil

the devil fruit is simpler

[muted hedge]

oh that's a neat idea

[frail kindle]

yeah who knows, it could be a literal person as well lol

[willow pollen]

Yes

[willow pollen]

Soon

[pulsar path]

I do think some devil fruits don't come from this process tho idk what ones do or don't

[rose rune]

I've cleaned him up so that you can make your colored version of Imu

time to make my version

oh fuck, I forgot one spot

[rose rune]

fixed

[stray prism]

cant wait for oda to make him have purple skin green horns orange hair and blue tattoos

[stray prism]

[hazy turret]

He’s beautiful

[formal wagon]

lucci >

[hazy turret]

Sybau

NO ONE ASKED

Lucci is a BUM

[rose rune]

you should color him too

[proud loom]

Sanji?

[hazy turret]

I don’t believe in colors

[proud loom]

Oh it’s nami

[hazy turret]

They’re not real

[celest mauve]

lucci more like poocci

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/casablanca-shocked-im-shocked-bogart-gif-14796634

[serene plume]

Gonna be so mad if he has a shamrock color scheme😭

[hazy turret]

Colors were created by Crayola to sell their crayons

[ruby cape]

He should get a long nose like someone else

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/vasco-shot-vasco-vasco-one-piece-one-piece-blackbeard-pirates-gif-16728757465030533814

[ruby cape]

He’s a good liar too after all hiding in the shadows

[hazy turret]

Maybe he was just shy

Imu looks emo….

GODA

[strong junco]

From Nami's mother to Nami's father to Namis brother to Namis son

[pulsar path]

Agenda intensifies

This works save Imu

[rose rune]

namimu

[safe cove]

lucci >

[pulsar path]

Why am I getting link totk vibes tho 😱

Eye in hand even

[rose rune]

actually, just fucking around with hue after finishing the colors kinda slaps

[pulsar path]

Carful you might find one better than Odas and never be able to unsee it

[celest socket]

hell yeah

finally time for coughing bomb vs nuclear baby

[pulsar path]

Damn Imu is just a ganondorf

[vale girder]

goated

[rose rune]

@brittle basin as the resident nerona nami fanboy I think I should tag you

[pulsar path]

How come no one's going crazy about confirmation shanks specifically stole Nika on purpose

[celest socket]

imu is kindof deathflagging huh

[rich hornet]

It was always pretty obvious

[celest socket]

I thought that was implied with the nika reveal yeah

[rich hornet]

Right. So much so, I thought it was implied that his mission in the holy land had to do with getting intel on the fruit

Which we don’t know yet why he went there

[celest socket]

true that'd make some sense

[rose rune]

I do feel like every once in a while people react a lot to things I thought we already had been told, while I just had assumed it

[celest socket]

I think who's who said it was stolen from a navy ship?

[rose rune]

yeah

he was protecting it, and shanks took it

[celest socket]

although he may well have gained the info on which ship it was on by using his temporary authority as a celstial dragon

[rose rune]

who's who got thrown into prison and became a pirate because he failed to protect the fruit, or something similar

that's why he namedropped nika, because it was a prison tale

[celest socket]

yeah

[muted hedge]

damn, i have a hard time seeing how Oda could mess this one up

[rustic coral]

Guys i think most ppl didnt get the imu reveal wasnt his baseform

[muted hedge]

all of them look stunning

[wise vector]

Fuck ussop

[rich hornet]

It’s the same kind of form as G5, seems like

[rose rune]

I still expect him to look funny in his normal non-demon form

[fluid cedar]

Oda didn’t show us base form imu to hide his clown nose for longer

[rustic coral]

He clearly transformed

[celest socket]

does his base form just look like the silhouette

[pulsar path]

It was a point of contention, and never really confirmed till now

[muted hedge]

i think that is his base form, the other one is just a concealed version

[buoyant comet]

He's also a fucking ancient giant somehow now

[muted hedge]

like i think that this is how he appeared when he was going against Joyboy and Davy Jones

[pulsar path]

I like the idea that the imu we see is Luffy old/ weak/ small form

[urban epoch]

This is a joke right

[pulsar path]

He's huge

[muted hedge]

no, he is huge given the castle is scaled for giants

and Imu fits the scale effortlessly

[celest socket]

I think it's possible all humans used to be really big

[pulsar path]

He may not be Anciant giant size Loki

[muted hedge]

certainly not, but he is by all means a giant figure

[buoyant comet]

No he's actually an ancient giant. He seems normal sized relative to the castle, but when you take into account how giant it is you'll know he's at least giant size.

[muted hedge]

at least when we see him in this chapter

[celest socket]

he has the horns

[rich hornet]

Id argue this chapter does nothing more to confirm it than what we previously knew.

The montage was showing key events that led us to Imu descending, and we see Shanks being named as the person stealing the fruit. That doesn’t tell us if it was intentional or not. But we can already assume that it was

[pulsar path]

I think this was a theory but maybe the small people are aliens and giants were the true people..but we also have tontanta

[muted hedge]

though, i think it's similair to Luffy how he manipulates his size to fit the scenario

[celest socket]

true

he mgiht be like King size?

bigger than a regular person but not an actual giant

[pulsar path]

I think he is bigger than the average giant but smaller than Loki and Harold?

Judging from the windows on the castle

[celest socket]

iirc he wasn't massively taller than gunko i nthat flashback

he'd be like towering over her if so

[muted hedge]

well that was his concealed state

[rich hornet]

This is a different form, yeah

[celest socket]

oh right joyboy also mightve been huge given the Big Hat

[pulsar path]

But will see if oda fixes this too

[crisp python]

Why would Imu hide his true form under that black cloak? 🤔

[urban epoch]

Dont think hes big at least not in his regular form

[muted hedge]

seems like they purposely supress their power

[pulsar path]

I think imus is going to have a defined amount of devil forms

Including dragon lol

[muted hedge]

i am leaning towards the idea that Imu has essentialy every devil fruit ability

at least an aspect of every one

like, it wouldn't shock me if we saw Imu manifest thorns next chapter or even unleash a construct similair to Cerberus

[urban epoch]

Thats a bit of a stretch tbh, at least in my opinion it is

[muted hedge]

i think it's fitting for the devil

[pulsar path]

I think they will have specific define powers or steal powers via dream eating

Nightmares?

[crisp python]

If no one's attacking Imu at Mariejois, why wouldn't he remove the black cloak if he can be at full power without it?

[muted hedge]

here's an aspect similair to Big Mom's soul soul fruit for example

[celest socket]

I'm surprised imu is going to elbaf rather than whatevers happening at marisjois

[pulsar path]

That's just awakening tho

[urban epoch]

This is pretty much biblical inspiration, the monsters signaling the coming of the devil

[pulsar path]

I do feel you on that but

Cus that's the first thing I thought

[muted hedge]

maybe they're actively hurt while using the full extent of their power, hence the blood when they went into it

[urban epoch]

Don't think it stretches that far tbh

[muted hedge]

it could be both

[pulsar path]

True

[buoyant comet]

Here's a comparison between Loki and Imus sizes relative to the Asuret Castle

[muted hedge]

so both Gaban and Imu has taken one tower each from Ouest castle now

[crisp python]

But if Imu removes the black cloak and doesn't fight, wouldn't that mean he is not using his full power?

[pulsar path]

I also had an idea that we know devil fruits have lasting effects so if Imu gives powers out they don't just disappear that might be one way creation of devil fruits maybe why some have black clouds and some are white

Also is inu bleeding for Teleportation or transformation?

[muted hedge]

honestly, i think we have far too little details to conclude anything lol
anything is possible

[crisp python]

But what would be your guess?

[muted hedge]

right now i am leaning towards that Imu puking up blood is part of their transformation, sort of like a rite for it

[urban epoch]

I'm under the impression that he just cannot stay in the lower world. Even the elders pleaded him not to go

[pulsar path]

I mean I even think there just frail from all the contracts maybe too

[urban epoch]

Don't think it's related to either teleportation or transformation

[pulsar path]

Yeah I think that could be many things like tbh if Imu dies does all the gorsei die?

[fluid cedar]

Teleportation he spat blood before transforming

[muted hedge]

i think they're actively supressing the power they hold, probably a reason for why they wanted to become immortal in the first place as this power would crush a mortal probably

[pulsar path]

Or is it just any power use

[urban epoch]

Highly doubt hes gonna die, but his stay in Elbaph most definitely wont stretch out too far

[fluid cedar]

Seemed fine when he killed saturn

[muted hedge]

i've seen the idea floating around that Imu created the devil fruits

[pulsar path]

That's would be apart of him so it wouldn't be using powers it would be taking them back

[rugged jolt]

Na

[crisp python]

So even if Imu removes the black cloak and sleeps, that would release his power?

[muted hedge]

i don't think they remove it when they don't have to, if they sleep they'd just sleep in that black blob state

[fluid cedar]

also promoting haralds mark if it counts as using his powers (unless the gorosei did that)

[pulsar path]

I'm thinking some but not all I think devil fruits were present before but I don't think they were called devil fruits till Imu fruits starter appearing

[urban epoch]

They didn't, Imu does that

[crisp python]

So when Imu appears to the 20 kingdoms in public, do you think he is in his black cloak or not?

[pulsar path]

Imu says it takes something from Then when he does that lol

[supple bobcat]

[pulsar path]

Meaning Imu is hurt or loses power when making a contract

[muted hedge]

if you're talking about way back when the void century was happening, then i think that the was more similair to the form he has now and then later that power started to drain him more and more which caused him to take the concealed state

[muted hedge]

maybe..

[pulsar path]

Also I was thinking maybe the sun hurts Imu so they have to be covered all the time

[urban epoch]

Dude has hypersensitivity to polluted air

[rugged sinew]

Imu's form in the last panels is about as big as a giant

[urban epoch]

When he's transformed yes

[warm sierra]

with no one else to scale to I wouldnt take that as confirmed tbh

[urban epoch]

His regular form is pretty regular in terms of size

[warm sierra]

we know how Oda is with sizes

[rugged sinew]

He 's standing on top of the spire of a giant's castle

[crisp python]

So the black cloak supresses his powers or the pain specifically?

[warm sierra]

ok, the giants held the sunny in their hand which is supposedly larger than them

[muted hedge]

both probably

[pulsar path]

It's a giant castle with giant windows we have some comparison or Oda will have retcon/ fix the panel