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elbaph started with his laugh and will end with it too š

Kuzan is so cool
coldest admiral
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iāve been seeing a lot of people talk about how Imu leaving the castle is a Doffy parallel ..
if thatās the case then they need to remember that Doffy got stopped by a Blackbeard Pirate after he said he was leaving the castle šāāļø soooo ā¦.
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Dont let em know
Elbaph also started with the sky breaking
ā why donāt you both just disappear from this world as Rocks did ā
would be funny if you then end up running into Rocks son while your out lol
Imu first day leaving the castle in decades and runs into Luffy Loki Teach for the first time ever
I think theyāll 100% be a surprised appearance from someone
Idk who yet tho
I think shanks is off the table if Loki really knows where he is
Sabo
Davy jones
Davy Jones is dead
Not necessarily
Oda didnāt shows this RIGHT as straw hats arrive to elbaf & now Imu is leaving Mariejois for no reason & this same arc we find out about the connection between Davy clan & Imu ā¦
Oda up to something šæ
Yea people forget Blackbeard is an integral part of the arc
you forgot one
Davy jones will eat imu, allowing the strawhats to escape
doubt it
i need BB to take imus live
life*
Imu will probably domi reversi Blackbeard just like what happened with Xebec
Ig DR will work against the person who negates the devilās power
Devil fruit man =/= haki man
pretty sure domi reversi only changed non fruit users
inb4 gunko (shes under a covenant)
not like thats confirmed though. The homeland thing ended up not being true too
going forward I'm certain non fruit users will only be affected
i mean, that could just be him prepping himself up
he also said that he is undefeatable when he got Whitebeards fruit on Marineford and then seconds later he refused a fight with Shanks and fled from Sakazuki
just really good observations
but show me one devil fruit user that did? Rocks didnt have a fruit remember he was LOOKING for one.
almost certain too that imus fruit is the cursed water fruit and it would make sense.
cursed water fruit?
devil devil fruit model dagon
Rocks didnt even know that Domi Reversi was a thing. Why would his fruit hunt have anything to do with getting immunity to DR?
Today is chapter day
because dagon is a (sea devil)
Shanks crew was healed, blackbeard just fought wb sengoku and garp
He didnt wanna fight akainu because he just got his crew from impel down and didnt want them fighting the magma man
so, he wasn't undefeatable like he exclaimed
if he was, he'd have no issues
Niggas also forget Blackbeard in the middle of marineford said he was gonna crush everything and akainu chose to go after jinbei and friends
But go on
and yet he didn't crush everything
point is, i think that Blackbeard speaks a lot and doesn't live up to it
thats the point he didnt know, but he was looking for a fruit. and since neither luffy nor loki was DR'd and they're fruit users
Yea sure lets go with that
He may be undefeatable, but his crew isnt
#nextarc š¤«
rocks had some idea, of that im sure of at least 50%
davy clan passed down information
and clearly BB's mom told him everything
I think rocks truth was somewhat distorted
what Eris told Blackbeard is up in the air, nothing is clear when it comes to that
And bb found out the real thing
knowing how Blackbeard turned out, he might as well have gotten a twisted idea of what Xebec wanted to achieve
Itās clearly not because they were fruit users that they were unaffected
is there an echo
Kurouzu

cuz thats what i said
YESSSSSSSSSSS
BALL KNOWER
someone who actually pays attention to shit š
i think it's likely that Eris died shortly after they were sent from God Valley, Blackbeard had to do his own notations on what Xebec wanted to achieve with tattered and torn pieces of clues which then leads to him going for a goal which isn't exactly that which his father actually wanted, he just thinks it is due to him not having all the pieces of the puzzle
we knew that Blackbeard was an orphan when he was picked up by Whitebeard for example
I gotta know about the goat
that's just a scribble meant to represent a foreign language
Well we donāt know that. Itās odenās assumption. And this whole idea doesnāt explain where BB got his notes in xebec. Eris had to have told him
but i dont think she dies shortly after, I'm almost certain the "distortion" is from his mom
Eris definitely told him
^
- bb can just lie about being orphan*
well Eris died before giving him the full extent of it is what i am assuming
BB is a calculated man
sometime before Whitebeard picked him up at least
Eris couldāve died a month before he joined wb for all we know
blind luck? how so
He flip flops between precise calculation and full on gambles lol
well in Impel Down he wasn't ready to counter Magellan, in Marineford he didn't have enough bullets as he ran out while gunning Whitebeard down and when he encountered Law he wasn't ready for Bepo
blind luck got BUGGY to yonko status + people like how rocks did
āRan out of bulletsā whitebeard still died
those are gambles
and he literally took WB's life
not thanks to him, Whitebeard would've died even if Blackbeard wasn't there at the end
And yea bepo cant go sulong in the sun, chopper gave him a pill
Thats not bad planning
^
Niggas be saying anything to discredit blackbeard
if he was a calculative mastermind like you guys propose he is then he should've definitely taken the sulong form into consideration, he if anyone should know how the odds can stack against you
Iāve always clowned on the impel down plan because he would have died if not for Luffy already being there, but even that isnt totally blind luck because he manufactured the scenario where Luffy would be baited to attack impel down
as a luffy and JB follower i cant discredit because the man is indeed smart, you gotta remember he is every bit luffys counter. while luffy is BiQ etc he is ideaology, smart,s intelligence
Why should he take the sulong form into consideration
or at least he tries
Sulong under open sun cld have surprised anyone
Spitting that straight air pollution
Blackbeard states this aswell
He literally says āsulong? In the daytime?ā
Like bro just say you hate blackbeard
handed his bro over to the GOVT but still didnt know until ace told him
i'm saying if he is a calculated mastermind like some propose, then he should've taken it into consideration, especially after knowing about Chopper's rumble balls
Heās supposed to assume chopper gave a rumble ball to bepo
i don't hate him, i just think that people give him a lot of undeserved credit
You definitely don
how could he?
bro doesnt even know chopper exists or which crew hes apart up MORE THAN LIKELY
oh, so just because i criticize a character that means i hate them?
People call BB a mastermind but like, he sailed directly into the knock-up stream
Idk
And walked up on Magellan with no plan
This is far beyond criticism
it's really not, lol
i wish BB would off screen people irl
You said blackbeard should take a nighttime form into consideration during the daytime
Bb is flawed, itās just that not predicting rumble ball Sulong isnt on him. Bad example
Like thats actual hate
yes, within the context of people saying that he is a calculative mastermind which he really isn't
Literally
Fatbeard
i'm saying that within the context of people saying that he is a mastermind, i don't expect him to expect it. it's purely from the context where people say that he is a mastermind
if he truly was this 4d villain with a plan accounted for anything, then he should've taken into consideration something which could force the sulong form to activate
like some people say he is
āCheatsā
Shanks himself said pirates dont play by rules
#rest
We are so lucky he didn't take and eat Boa's fruit
Schmoving like that and I'd get turnt to stone
A lot of BBās effectiveness comes from his adaptability rather than meticulous fore planning
i agree, that and his blind luck which he shares with both Buggy and Luffy
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The sons of fate
for real, lol
We are so back
ill beat the hell out of you
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the duality, lol
My message was first, means I'm right 
ill do it for the vine
do what for the vine
it's not that deep
are you seriously threatening me
Im not.
but you got this dude starin you down just throw him in za wahta
"is that a cherry pie you have"
wonder what his favorite cherry pie brand is
Ngl cherry pie is top tier
agreed
i think pies in general are top tier
Good bit of tart
i can't think of any pie which i actively dislike
Also the way he eats them with some good booze
That has to hit
Now that I think about it
You don't usually eat like shit if you're a successful pirate
Gotta flex on the grandline noobies
A bad grape pie
A bad grape pie can taste like medicine
True but you wont know till you bite
Its hard to judge anything like pies
Off looks alone
yeah, you gotta get that first bite in
@KirigayaShimo Imu has not shown any fear for Luffy or Loki. Only evacuated Gunko's body to protect her from taking direct hits from Luffy( Interesting characterisation?) and immediatly said "I'll be gone for a little while"
We are not ready for what Oda will do
i don't think that Imu evacuated Gunko's body to protect her
Allat just for loki to awaken and luffy understands gear5 better
bro where could this black blob possibly be goinš
man ppl talking crazy about luffy power level
they saying he canāt beat old gaban or sengoku w g5
crazy takes
they think he is yc level because of a gimmick
I meannnnnnnnnnn
Ehhh
Ill say gear 5 mid diff gaban
And high diff sengoku ( š¤®)
Ik sengoku is a bum but i also feel like oda would make that a high diff
Crazy
lafitte is still sitting at the holy land right
a cutaway to the blackbeard pirates would be cool here
but if imu is actually coming to elbaph i dont think oda would leave us hanging
I'm starting to think Imu isn't coming to Elbaph and maybe going somewhere random af like Fishman Island or Punk Hazard
Kidnap shirahoshi? š
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devon is already ine bafl
mannnn
Imu is probably going to fight the straw hats at Laugh Tale
they aint ready
Wonder what Loki will do now
Can I be real and say I donāt really care about Imu at all
if he goes to elbaph thereās no way u can write them out of surviving or escaping especially with loki and luffy current condition
Also if shanks will come back to elbaf
u think heās just gonna beat them and leave
luffy and loki fought imu at 1% of their power and already got exhausted
heās gonna kill themš
its over for them
Heās really just a weird little shadow alien
Yea
Not on his own accord tho
elbaf will fail
yeah thereās probably a time limit
Nika still lives in luffy
Oda held off on showing Imu's real face/body for too long
for how long he can be outside
Eustass Kid save us
I'm not even hype about them being revealed at this point
Poor guy
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i really think this bastard is just immune to attacks in general, watch the darkness fruit be the way he goes down
Government was honestly more interesting when they were just the empire
the hax is crazy for that fruit
it sucks in the power of the devil
and blackbeard said he was going to give up on his plan if he couldnāt get it
Something that canāt be alleviated by more character work?
thereās no other explanation other then it has something to do with countering Imu
what if chopper is the one to beat imu in elbaf
Peak
Not ready for whatever Odaās plan is for Chopper lol
Seems so sudden, but maybe itāll make sense
Exactly
nah we always knew chopper was special because of his nose
I donāt like Imuās powers, his personality, or that the WG has an Emperor Palpatine responsible for everything tbh
Oda read too many comments about Ragnir replacing Chopper on the crew and had to bust something out for him
I think the final war has started already
I kind of loved the World Government as a coalition that runs on inertia
so it would be a perfect time for blackbeard to make some sort of move in the holy land
what about dragon

only confusing part is the garp and becoming a recognized king plotline
Becoming a king is a feint I imagine
no idea they are currently starving the cds we have to see if they were behind the attack
On the ground yea
the reason i believe no one is coming to elbaph is because its not a WG affiliated nation like Egghead no one knows whats going on there
and unlike wano there isnāt cipher pol or dickheads like Apoo to leak infoš
ange evil theory still alivešš
I dunno, I don't like that Sommers is out here just rolling himself around and regenerating
i knew it, i mean thats why shes ugly 
Feels like he could cause a lot of trouble just by being a sore little bitch about getting stomped and made to look like a fool
Chill thats too OP
Ange is Imu
Or use the seraphim
i want Luffy, Sabo and Vivi to meet
given Sabo needs to deliver Cobras message to the both of them
its gonna be as important as marcos message in wano
Is Mosshead here
...
winch green
He had the worst germa ability imo
i'll be honest with you, i don't even remember his ability
Itās winch green
all i remember is his voice actor being Kenjiro Tsuda lol
It increases his gripping power (I think)
Nobody remembers that he voiced him
People are all gonna focus on shamrock now
I still never watched film red
I thought they would have revealed the new movie by now
It was cool
Granted i wasnt caught up when i watched it but
Is that the one with bullet
Like strong world or Z
Yeah
I been meaning to watch that
i didn't like one piece stampede
it felt like a lot of things being there for no reason
like Mihawk showing up slicing a meteor and then never seen again
also Bullet as a whole felt a bit bland to me
coolest part was all of the supernovas being there
Chapter out?
22 minutes I think
Stampede is good, For Mihawk He didn't care about orders if his the information given is wrong.
It's not in my contract.
Villain POV:Every OP movies like if nobody stops them World will be in real danger.
daylight savings š
the biggest problem is that we had no clue to what Mihawk was doing there
he just sliced up the meteor and then told Perona to go
and then we never see him again in the movie
it's so clear that they just wanted him there because it would be hype
not knowing why he was there
He was just there to flex on Zoro
Classic mihawk reasons
He has no reason to be anywhere
He doesn't do anything or goes anywhere, he's got no friends, he just wanders cause he's bored
So that's fine
lol
Damn nami rank 1 in 4 regions still
The goon is strong
Didnāt realize Lucci is popular
The goat movie mentioned
I think that's the only change I noticed in this week's chapter, it seems less like Loki has a time limit on his power and more so that he was just too big to be able to use his ice powers
Alright good, people can stop with the cope that Imu knew for certain it wouldn't work
They made a guess
This explains why they used it, cuz if they knew it wouldnt work.. why bother?
It's basically the same thing. He knew basically that it wouldn't work but tried it anyway
Because why not?
Semantics
Imu doesnt say for how long they will leave the holy land in VIZ
Imu knew brah he just couldnt help himself
He's in multiple top 5s
Interesting

Nami in top 1 lucci at 4
Lucci deffo botted
Sure
It's hard to know but he says for a short time I believe in the actual Japanese
LOKI DOESNT HAVE A TIME LIMIT
ROB LUCCI
I guess that recency bias kind of faded
@joshua explain
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many errors in tcb this week sadly
we can still huff scale Loki
This poll is strange
I think I only saw one
been 2 so far with Imu and Loki
No rocks or Loki in top 5
Imu was not a mistake
Botting is a serious issue ig
I don't think Loki has ever made the top five
I wasnt gonna say anything till i seen the middle east & africa
@frigid gulch
But yea i hoped loki would switch outta that
If Imu goes to Elbaph we probably get Loki stalling them until Luffy gets food
Bro was not gonna hit gunko
rob wucci
WHAT THE FUCK
There was no way Oda was gonna put a time limit on both Luffy and Loki
It's just first 3 weeks, I think the poll will be back to like 1st week results by the end
unless Imu is a giant monster the zoan time limit would be irrelevant anyways

so Loki's biggest weakness is facing smaller opponents?
Robin and nami got up there tho thats wassup
Ngl the fan translation wasnāt good this week
Middle East was busy Eid and stuff
We are locking in next week
@formal wagon
no, he can just shrink down
like in the chapter
Wallahi
he can go hybrid or base
i mean even then he towers over them
Harald vs Rocks happened
Inshallah as they say šš¾
DONT
Harald was able to match Rocks
Bismillah
well Harald isn't Loki
āBismillahā is so underrated , needs more usage
I am surprised loki aint crack top 5 yet
TCB said Imu expected Domi Reversi to work like they knew all along
In the viz, its clear Imu just guessed and didnt know
Leo STOMPS loki

Even then it is the weakness of his large form
Imu said they suspected, which is essentialy the same thing
Yeah several parts of the chapter didnāt sound right to me
not the same thing
He kept telling him that
I hate when viz is right š
Why would you use Domi Reversi if u knew it wasnt gonna work -_-
Have you ever heard of a thesaurus? You know that the words can similar things
The idea behind it is the same thing. He did know that it probably wouldn't work but he was going to try it anyway
cook him earl
Meek should be muted for losing more bets
3 days without a golden Gunko š
Wait why are we mad at tcb
Doesn't imu basically say the same thing in both versions
Takes purposely losing bets so he could be conveniently absent during the bad TL chapters
I see you meek
we been known this
not really
if u know what the words mean
Well hes an idiot whos freaking coming to elbaf personally!!!
Thatās not even why I was originally hating , loki doesnāt have a time limit according to official
What will happen next!!!
It's the same. It just doesn't agree with their agenda
Thereās more than that wrong with it
but yeah the Loki time limit thing is a bigger problem
so true
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Thereās more that sucked with tcb than just that , I was originally hating on them 5 mins ago because the viz panel clearly showed Loki doesnāt have a time limit
Wucci
LETS GOOO
holy bots
I can confirm these votes are completely legitimate
He gets stiff armed by loki and luffy
Keep botting nami harder she will be top 1
Rigged votes
I think that's the only difference I did note. Other than that, the whole suspected versus expected thing is dumb
Bots
so do we recognize Lucci as an emperor now?
Whys he getting stiff with luffy and loki????
The viz makes it clear Loki chose to detransform and that his giant form was NOT draining him
I recognise lucci as an emperor as much as lucci recognises luffy
Who inherited Socrates bets?
I could probably find more if I nitpick, but I agree the suspected thing isnāt bad like the loki time limit thing
50 niggas should be muted rn
Wait Socrates got banned?
watch Imu go there personally next chapter and domi reversi Loki
Like a month ago lol
whos socrates?
Big mom amnesia be like
Did he do something in particular or was it just not shutting up about Loki lol
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The Loki thing
All of the above combined
like forever ago
Kill lucci
He didnt do do anything in particular, just the Loki thing really
Well i haven't been in this channel much because I've been too busy going outside and having a LIFE sorry for not being update on discord users
Fucking hell
Im.so angry
They feared himā¦
Bro touched grass make fun of him
We ALL play deadlock bro
you but with only loki instead of jumping from one character to the next to hype up and involve in convos
there definitely has to have been something other than just swallowing Loki
Swallowing loki is an interesting way to say it
Sticking to one character is boring af
I'd get so bored bro
is it wrong?
Itās interesting not wrong lol
Vote her
The only character id stick to is gerd
You can also vote makinoās baby too
Am I right fellow Gerd Herd members??
Its peak
She's kinda pink
I Should have expected this from Oda lol
And more than a little cute!
He canāt help himself
Probably the only good one
Giant Barbie
we know you have no loyalty and suffer from constant recency bias
And I bet it's good by accident
@formal wagon what did you do
W or L design?
She has a stylish pink axe thatās kinda cool lol
W
WWWWWW
I actually like the pink axe
I love how he makes it sound like Loki is a bigger threat than Imu lol
Because colors have been intentionally terrible for some time now
Been enjoying one piece so much more when I wasn't going online to talk about it every chapter but its time to start hating one piece again
She aināt even a fighter why she rocking an axe
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she is gorgeous
No
Bros grass touching chapter is over?
Itās to be a better doctor
I mean...
The red heels are an L, everything else is cool
World Cups
Thy might as well have been pink too
FUCK YEAH IM NEVER GOING OUTSIDE AGAIN
the red heels match with the leg warmers
We need more gear 4
Gear 4 is dead bro
@grand flower Maybe your theory still has legs lol
If luffy uses gear 4 to fight the devil im over it
Saving your energy? BOOOOOORING
Hmmmm
Waiting on Gerds colors
uh we know
How
here
At this point there's only base and g5
Whatās that
Since he can use g4 moves anytime
idk if I like this tbh
Fuck I meant Riley
Ripley
mr lucci top 5
You were suspicious of the owl when we first saw him
We just do anything nowadays huh
i've heard theories that Biblo was another one of Joyboys crewmembers
@formal wagon
Alright man
Its time to just vote Zoro everyday
If people are gonna do nonsense like this
people just really like Lucci
Lucci bros we are so back
Also it seems maybe the bot votes were for Rocks all along š
Favorite form easily,not snake man, this right here
FR
Bounce man purist in my bones
its so different from the regular shonen transformations
Still my favorite luffy form
Of all time
good
Love it
Peak opinion
Sumn is off bout that dude
Nay
The ball he used against Moriah
Ehh
Rate Luffy's gears based on design
Oooo thats tough
tankman
gear 5
bounceman
snakeman
Boundman
Snakeman
Gear 5
Tankman
Bounce man
Snake man
The rest because they look still like luffy
2 > 5 > Snake Man > Bound Man > Tank Man > 3
Wait I had the wrong attack name , GIGANT JET SHELL , It was coated in gear 2 and had the form of gear 3 https://youtu.be/j5yVn8EkXgw?si=SyN1I4Mwy9k0OFlO
Luffy launches his air-filled body and rams into an opponent like a large cannonball. This move is quite reckless, as Luffy suffers both from the excess burn on his body from Gear 2, and the difficulty of moving his body from Gear 3.
#gear3 #gomugomunomi #gear2 #luffy
This is luffys best attack of all time
Combined Gear 2 and 3 was very cool yeah
i want nightmare Luffy to get a comeback
Fucking peak idc if it look ridiculous
DO U GUYS REMEMBER THE TIGER MAN THEORIES?
Itās peak luffy when heās just a ball
witness peak
Made sense
Bounce man is goated because its based off the Deva King, a protector diety against evil energy
Okay this but also make him a ball
Blue nightmare , white scarf and hair , but also ball shaped
This poll has just been ruined since the bots
I'd cancel it ngl
just call it off
We need to go back to mail in ballots
Rocks should be there
Canāt bot those
in the top 3 at least
Loki and Harald*
Rocks being in the top was bottles
Ida and harald
Rocks more like fucking loser
rocks and harold ain't makin top 10
Harald deserves it more than Xebec does, if we're talking about character
Typo
Xebec had hype and Harald had development
getting ragebaited rn
Loki probably deserves it more than both of them
There is no way lucci is getting more votes than most characters
Wait they might actually be cooking
Rocks had development too just not on the same level as harald
from the little we've seen Loki is definitly one of the characters
Lucci was just a focus of the last arc
what was his development?
Somehow the only thing I got spoiled about this chapter was the heart
I just believe any character no matter how recently popular would not make it to the top 5 because thereās lots of long time fans who arenāt even caught up at all an are long time faithfuls of characters that have been around since pre ts
Kuma was the focus not him
I think thats mostly nonsense ngl
Decided to give upon his goals for protecting his family
true
Harald didnt have anything done to him
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But I get your point but still it's just unbelievable
Lucci is bot result
I feel like there was more focus on rocks and Loki so far in more recent times
eh, fair enough
Was Wapol old enough to help them build such hearts during God Valley?
Lol
No the case would be Wapol mistakenly created the VC metal
Since he was randomly eating things
Anyways harald is goated and deserves to be under top 50 atleast
Rocks made it though
top 20 at least
This is a fun one
Harald is a perfectly flawed character
Oh, so the WG already has this metal and has had it for 800 years and Wapol just so happens to be able to recreate it nowadays due to his DF?
Yea
OK I see.
People are losing perspective
Like Foxy and the Noro Noro photon
How is a manga only character gonna hit Top 5
I believe itās also a bot result , and the voting wasnāt concluded anyway
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Iām sure thatāll be brought back up as well
These are like progress results
yall gotta learn how to read
That can change soon
Lucci hopefully is bots, as he's a lackluster character in almost every department save giving Luffy a good fight at Enies Lobby.
I would take carrot in the top 10 again instead of this lucci non sense tbh
So Stussy is basically saying the gods knights body are a form of memory metal
When theyāre destroyed it takes shape back into their body form
Xebec is great and all, but he still is 90% hype and aura
āRocks is hype and aura ā
āActually no rocks is too kind ā
Smh
Just rip him apart why donāt you
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surely
do we even know why Xebec went to the lengths he did?
Whitebeard but bad
saying this with a shamrock pfp when his entire presence in the story is hype and aura
Oda took 10 chapters and made Rocks one of the most beloved characters in recent memory because of how much charisma he gave him. It's hard not to love him.
Truly the pinnacle of writing
Let's wait for the end of the polls to see where he ends 
well you have a Gunko pfp so i guess we're in the same boat
Itās probably related to the Davy clan , but Iām sure thatāll be explored more with Blackbeard , we still need to find out bbās own personal flashbsck story , he has his own history including with his mom post god valley
No?
I doubt rocks story is done. But if we only judge the latest flashback. It is mostly hype
He should be the one to rule the world, Davy was the original king
yeah, i certainly hope that it gets explored further
Rocks isnt just hype and aura BUT he's definetly in the category of characters where you can tell Oda wants people to think he's the coolest (Shanks and Zoro as examples)
im convinced ppl have lost reading comp if this is the takeaway from rocks
And Rocks is more extreme than even them
Like Shanks aura farms but Rocks doubled it
Youāre telling me shanks ISNT cool?
Rocks is quite cool. Oda did a phenomenal job with him in the few chapters we had.

so he just wants to avenge Davey Jones
Yeah
Hrm
possible vengence, yes.
What if Viz mistranslated
but also he may want to rule as well
The promise will be fulfilled
Im saying he is! And that Oda wants you to feel that way about him very much

Maybe...?
Also they cleared things up abt Imu too, they didnt know if Domi Reversi was gonna work on Luffy/Loki
It may be the entire Davy clan has grudge like that , like even though bb has a completely different personality , I bet his grudge is the same
Why would he have a time limit? Is this a TCB thing?
Like heās doing it for the Davys
Shanks is cool, but Oda is giving him a bit too much lately. The tattoo devouring "strategy" and helping Fisher are two marks almost against him.
Ahh I get u
Its because of what comes next
Hi death? 
TCB made it sound like the dragon form was draining Loki
Yup
Hey man, some of us tried to tell you Shanks ditched the arm on purpose years ago
Oda invented Domi Reversi just so he could make wholesome chungus Rocks
common tcb L
i wonder how that would go, probably decent at least considering that Xebec seemed to be a relatively good leader at least, even though the Rocks pirates fell apart
Luffy watches Shanks die. 
i assume he would not be a good ruler.
I mean even if he did have a limit, the most he did was breathe a bit hard
Oda made Domi reversi so he could make even more fake deaths right in front of our face like heās flaunting it now
He wanted to draw gore
to rule a band of misfit pirates is one thing. to rule the world is another thing entirely.
He'd be better than Imu we can say that much
probably the case, yeah
Explain what's so revolutionary about his character that hasn't been done before but better
yeah but with Imu the bar is literally in hell. I think because Rocks desires to lead the world, it would be a mark against him. i don't trust someone who thinks they can rule better
i could see him being a bit more fair then Imu and not as chaotic as his son would be
you should ask the one that translated... he's here somewhere
Rocksā plan is slowly being uncovered
he will explain it to you
#DoIt4Davy
Dolt?
But weāll prob also get stuff through the lens of BB
I donāt even think he believed he could rule better , I think he just wanted what once used to belong to his family , the throne
i wish we got a proper explanation for what Xebec planned to do after seizing the throne, when that was his main goal
yeah i'm gonna kind of equate those slightly. someone desiring the throne worries me as much as i love rocks.
i don't think it was just spreading boundless chaos like Blackbeard seems to be inclined to do
Do it
oh
Oh yeah Iām not saying it makes him a better person , it makes him more blunt if anything , he wants his birthright , you can feel empathy for certain villains backstories , an even though villains care for their own families they still do despicable acts outside of them
Insert Melontee tweet
Similar to joyboy i think they both have a different interpretation of davy
possible yeah
Rocks is so fucking cool I dont blame him
or at least different ways of achieving Davy's goal
ms valentine vote?
Who
Rocks probably views davy has more noble and deserving of the throne and imu took it
Blackbeard probably views him as a greedy pirate who takes any and everything and was going to take the throne
like, i don't think that Xebec would side with the government even if it gave him an upperhand
dam

He did
somewhat
Tmr for sure
Rocks saved Loki's life

sure, but i mean with his own intent to do so
Our hero
Penny ur #2 in doomers list after bluko
this is outrageous, lol
I can agree with this. The two benefits I can give Rocks towards maybe being an OK ruler is 1. He targeted an organization known for being corrupt , and 2. He targeted the WG, another corrupt organization. He at least has some kind of positive track record/pattern in that regards. Whether he did all the heinous crimes the narrator boxes said he did is what could throw those previous two examples out of alignment.
uh is this sarcasm
She's deadass
#facts
Now that's what I call a headcanon.
melony usually has good takes
Me when I beat my kid so he doesnāt become like me
Putting loki on the sea that young is too dangerous
i didnt know she was a rocks stan tho, based af i am dropping a sub
I love Rocks but he straigt up stabbed Loki lol
She def taking it too far
She literally made all that up lol
i think Loki would've been fine, even if he was a child lol
he was taking leaps that were suicide for most giants and got out of it with just some blemishes
Take so bad it made me unsub from her
''There's no authority in the world that lasts forever'' 

That's actually a good way to convince ur self than calling it a gag for what rocks did to loki
Bro plagiarized Doflamingo's speech
Literally not a single thing about this character is original
not even a gag loki was annoying kid and rocks doesn't have the patience
hence stabs

As bad as it is, Rocks didnāt do it without reason
I think rocks was still a villain , we just got to see the side of him that makes us empathize with him a bit , the dark undertones of his character are an afterthought in the flashback , I think oda did that on purpose , present a villain as a perceived āgood guyā , the villainy will be shown in bbās own actions and history I bet , or hope , it could even be the case that bb is so villainous because he perceived his dads actions to be just as cut throat as his own in the modern day , despite having a sympathetic side
funny enough Xebec seemed to grow somewhat attached to Loki at the end of things
Sogeking buring the WG flag low diffs both Rocks and Doffy's speech though.
So he isnāt a maniac that strikes kids and stuff
like when Loki told him that he thinks he is Nika and all that
For fun
At least my goat doesnāt beat kids
Nothing lasts forever, so let's get ME on the throne and then my family will last forever!
Robert house pfp
which is probably why she thinks he wouldn't staba kid hes grown attached to
but its probably a garp/luffy situation except rocks stabs while garp punches
Well he did that right when he saw kid Loki so idk
the time when Rocks having a family is after he meets Loki right?
i think she posted that before the Loki and Xebec conversation about Nika was out, lol
Loki seemed to be trying to punch him the first time around but even then Rocks prob coulda softly KOd him
After yeah
I mean yea he doesnt hate loki, he just didnt want a child on the crew, especially a child of royalty
being in the twitter one piece fandom sounds like genuine torture
Ye but it was cause he wanted Harald to come back
Now if only he didn't burn his own men in friendly fire 
oh... well this take isnt as bad then
penny just posting old thoughts now smh
because having a family changed Rocks... if the Rocks that has a family is the one that met Loki... he'd probably not get stabbed
Would luffy have done the same? Maybe tbh lol
Maybe
Manga is not very different btw
Loki swung first
perhaps
Also yea luffy decks colon but niggas ignore that

#noticing
Didnāt Luffy use G3 against Collun
I feel like sometimes I am a doomer, but it's also good to keep your expectations in check

Yeah
He also fought momo
And punched vivi
Penny is an ally
He didn't actually hit Collun
Not really it's just vibe killing most of the time
that piss loathsome guy is right, i think if i stop engaging with one piece online fandom i would enjoy the story more
@brittle basin btw did you see the new Loki figure?
no
It can help lol
difference really is Luffy was 19 then 21... he's ALOT younger which tbh understandable that he has those tendencies
Idk if Harald wouldāve shown up just because Rocks said he was at Elbaf. Theyāre not friends at that point
wonder how much that will cost
unlike Rocks' old ass
Oda writes bad things sometimes and I think it's fine to recognize that, no author is perfect
probably a lot
I still love one piece
So thatās why he took that kinda drastic measure
No one is saying he is perfect
Also tbf rocks didnāt stab loki
i cant hate one piece as long as characters like chopper and laboon exist
You calling rocks a bad wb is where it sucks
only figure i would ever consider buying
any good rocks figures out?
Rocks did the equivalent of punching someone
nah, you'll have to wait a while for that
Thatās how his swordsmanship works
if you don't want a third party i guess
Ok I was responding to Sb of all people so I'm being reductive
He stabbed loki when loki wanted a formal challenge

WB said he shouldāve gone easy on him
Theyāre WG supporters its no hope
But he's an ok character at best and it pisses me off that people talk about him like he's the best character ever created
Thereās a second instance besides the first instance where rocks fought kid loki
hes a great character
Th second time is when heās stabbed
I think a large part of why rocks was so loved is that he was a complete subversion of expectations weāve had for 7 years
the most accurate third party figure of Rocks i've seen so far
his relationship with harald, influence on loki are great
I donāt think a single person expected rocks to be what he was
Oda subverted it too much imo, he should have found more of a middle ground
So that made his journey all the more exciting and interesting
Loki finding out the truth soon
Definitely expected him to be similar to BB
I think he tried for that , but it wasnāt enough for some

Canāt please them all
a lot of people are mad that rocks isnt a psychotic criminal is crazy
Like more scummy?
I wanna know the admiral he killed
We had the narrator tell us the scummy bits , itās not like the narrator was lying
i mean it's not like he was a saint eitherway
He def wasnāt a saint
we got a page dedicated to the bad stuff he has done
tbh we jumped to him being an asshole, then having a family changing him...
He just wasnf a psycho
the real scumbagness was not highlighted as much
Like bumbeard
Yeah Oda seemed really afraid of actually SHOWING him do bad things or even just regular pirate things other than attacking Loki. He even made the charity he stole from evil, it's like a parody, it's ridiculous
he reminded me a bit of Eustass Kid personality wise
Canāt believe this arc is already 53 chapters. This might become the third longest arc in the series
lol some people would be mad at you for this but law was pretty ruthless too
why would oda be afraid of showing him do bad things
Heās not
Law has killed
Because he had the narrator say it instead
Heās saving it for blackbeards backstory
but why would he be afraid
yeah should've seen him do the Kidd... like a couple of Crucifixion, a couple of Waterboarding people... etc
i think oda didn't have the panel space to show allat
Afraid to make him unlikable, idk
its not about being afraid, he just didnt have the real estate
like... we know he's that brutal
I mean tbf the narrator when describing things in that way leaves out context
like Kaido learned from his ass
I donāt think he was afraid
I think he wanted to show off the morally better parts of Rocks and didnt want readers confused
He was already likable when people expected him to be ruthless cut throat 100% of the time , the subversion is what made him ynlikeable to some of yall
But he's not gonna just wash over all the bad stuff so its like this weird whiplash




