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No, it changed with Post Timeskip to We Go, then Over the Top with Wano, then Us with Egghead
So maybe they just didn't want to spoiled the new song
Isn't she kidna huge right now
wait... did Franky's thighs get thicker or am I tripping?
I hope they use the jinbei VA and make him speak like Moria
Ahh cus moria and xebec are both from God valley 🤔
The god valley accent
no, because it would piss people off
So brook wrote the book while traveling with rumbars im guessing
Louie Armstrong was a jazz ambassador who traveled the world with his music
Vote
But but moria is the best!
I went for maffey today
Gross
I'll do gerd today
yeah, Moria is great, but people want rocks to be a bad ass
The fact that Elbaf’s opening is being done by the same person who did DanDanDan season 2 opening makes it already peak
Finally been so long
he's shining like his golden locks
Actually i shldnt vote for gerd today
They refused to give us gold until today
I shld vote for my favourite character of all time
Can someone pin the song
But then I have already voted for Luffy bb garp
Or send link
how dare thee
I can sing it for if you want
No thanks
just because you typed 'us' I instantly read this in the voice of gollum

Gives its to us!
Those bums already making it to the top 100
Ty
No problem
But they're like my fav
Oda deff wa sloikin at that cover man they literally give off the same energy and him being like the most famous trumpet player
I shld vote for my fav character on my bday right
what's really funny to me is that Oda felt the need to hide brook's face for a grand reveal later

vote for paulie
Also brook gives off like joyboy/ the ship sprite vibes idk just the way they abstract his eyes but keep his smile
Never
Could be a Davy
back when brook was evil
what a bop
It’s peak
OH YES
I think so
Damn it’s kinda mid
I LL DO MY GOAT DOFFY
Wait no
First one with a woman singer since op 20
33 million
33, 83, 383
He still is
It’s live performance, actual recording would sound better
just vote for Cerberus
Based on the preview at least
He's a bird
Live always sounds ehh imo
HOLY MOLY SILVER DOFFY
Very hit or miss
One piece anime is finally coming back
Average Rocks fan sexism smh
he will never be him
Works much better than i expected tbh
Bro is about to be number 1 Loki glazer
Rocks is not sexist
i love live action
Bro risked his life for a woman

He already had that phase

And her chud son
😭
Loki is objectively better than Gojo
Aww
Too bad would have been cool to match his age
Hero will they ever put Loki in any game
Pirate warriors 5
Bounty rush
He’ll be in bounty rush
The new onepiece rpg

I never played the b rush
Good
Lol 🤣
Mid mobile gacha slop
That's gotcha
That game will actually take years off of your life
Bandai will milk you dry
!os ???
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Thats why i deleted dokkan
Fortnite is series
damn watch out for Fortnite spoilers, lol
I will ping red and let him decide
Inoakge dokkan for a lil
I can hear his voice singing the song it's all raspy 😭
Bro sounds like he needs to constantly clear his throat
Does gaban have time to teach the crew haki now
Whats the connections
sure and in the midst of their training Imu shows up
?
it mentions trees
They’ll go to the heaven layer and eat the fruit of wisdom to instantly learn armament and observation
also what the fuck is going on here
Also could vegapunk insert the data into there brain as well
Oda give us a hint at least
What was the hint?
It all burned down
Maybe
Ohh yeah
But what does vegapunk know about haki
He could copy scooper
Just feed em cola
And input the date only Sanji lmao
Imu: Gorosei, Mu will step out the Holy Land for a while
Gorosei: !?
Scene pans to Cross Guild
??? : Well well, look who's here after 800 years
Imu: I am here to exchange the favor you owe me... Buggy
You forgot to add the one month break
Internal feud?
It got burned up
Mu: "Son, thou hast decided to show thee face after long."
This would be really interesting holy shit
Lol
wtf?
it's definitely something more given Shamrock had to be sent back
Predictions for next chapter?
if it's just the Celestial Dragons going on a rampage any Holy Knight would be able to deal with it
Considering he's one of the most reputable guys
But yeah shamrock is the only person who can execute CDs
Imu is at a Burger King
Cus he's El judgo
His presence could have calmed cds down
I mean if you guys really wanna know he's at tekking 101 house
Why
The chapters are just a year late
or... Shamrock transformed into the hellfire serpent and ate them
imu is training with rayleigh ( gotta learn haki again )
Also he can just kill a dozen of them pigs honestly no one wld ask anything
hes at the other holy land ofc
....
realsies

Honestly i hope this gives us some time to include some other characters maybe
other new chars?
for real though i am almost 100% certain that Shamrock has the hellfire serpent fruit
Na I mean like and I can't believe I'm saying this
Maybe explain kid
Law
Maybe bb shows up tbh
I think people with strong haki will feel Imu descend maybe
Shamrock vs Loki
Jormangundr vs Nidhoggr
Cerberus vs Ragnir
it would be perfect
Me when rocks being gunko's father
And I get the feeling it might take Imu some time to get there idk if he can use the gates
Facts ragnir vs cerberus would be too tuff
I think we could get a strongest of this generation vs Imu here
Although i want zoro to fight shamrock 😔
we dont have jormungandr yet and jormungandr is LOKI son in norse lol
the hellfire serpent is probably Jormangundr and in the mural it was depicted fighting against Nidhoggr, so it would make sense for Shamrock to be the hellfire serpent as he is pitted against Loki
Like in elbaf?
Yeah lol
there is a hebi hebi no mi model jormungandr ig in OP gng
Jormangundr was also defeated by Thor in the norse mythos which could connect to the fight with Loki and Shamrock given Loki has a lot of Thor aspects being able to wield lightning and all that
I don't know about law but kid has chances
also there's a snake out there which is called Cerberus
Bb is probably making moves in the outer world
yeah ik that all that was during Ragnarök
I just don't know where law is going and they are kidna near elbaf? I mean I think we will run into him sooner than later
I think he should attack holy land right now
yeah
Even tho he doesn't know but
also, Jormangundr could be the blood soaked serpent which Dory and Broggy were talking about
Dragon needs to give the world his answer

His answer is luffy

if it's the natural enemy to Nidhoggr based on the mural
BB about to go get the serphimsn
Nidhoggr which was safekept in Elbaph for so long
And I'm going to guess laffiette is just spying on the wg some how
I dead ass think he Lucci bird lmaon
Loki versus Shamrock
Would be tuff
I think it would be fun to have to search for him but yeah I mean tbh I think it might be gabben but I'm a lot of people don't like that idea
I mean they have Saturns likeliness now and idk if they. An reprogram then to forget Saturn but
Shanks makes a lot of since but if he leaves to early it leaves every one without a way of getting the last glyph
another thing regarding Shamrock possibly being the hellfire serpent is that him being the world serpent while Imu represents the earth would be very fitting
Garling being the moon, Shamrock the serpent which envelops the earth and Imu is the said earth
I'm wondering if Norse mythology will carry past elbaf
feels like the final battle will have a lot from norse mythos
as it's basically being built up as Ragnarok
Maybe but it feels like they sometimes leave the lore per island sometimes that's all
i think so too
The 100 head beast
But than again Norse vikings major pirates so
all of his heads should have different hairstyles based on the various phases of the moon
Hmmm
That also might be why he hasn't gone for it yet tho
And why he was kinda like put off by kid showing up
Like shit I'm not where I wanna be
Bro got a drinking problem for real
One piece is late cus if shanks lazy ass
guys i think imma read dressrosa instead of watching
That would be crazy
But yea if its not typhon its probably a were wolf zoan
I just watched all 125 episodes ....
Yeah read it lmao
i cant with the pacing its atrocious 😭
Fenrir?
Maybe
i hope whole cake has better pacing
no one is coming to elbaph

people are busy doing other things in the world
read the manga for everything
and then watch the anime for the moments you enjoyed in the manga
It's better but .... Still pretty bad but yes it's a lil bit better
You can switch to anime in wano for fights
aight but for now i jst wanna finish dressrosa without going insane
just read the manga bro
the anime is bad
True
should not be 1100 episodes
Dragon too
Dressrosa anime is the worsr
Before the end
binge reading dressrosa is like once in a lifetime experience
Niggas did too much fuckery
enjoy it!!
manga fights are hard to read alot of the time so i would watch them in the anime maybe
coloured manga one piece is very beautiful
Still only one gold BB 😔
should be like 500 max
yea idk why i kept watching the anime i read thriller bark and acc enjoyed it
Zorojuro 😏
my first time reading any manga was egghead-elbaf
and i read it all in a day it was awesome
Well the pre ts isn't really that bad compared to post in pacing
So it's understandable
Also pre ts had a fucking humour going on in the anime
yea i always thought the pacing was gonna get better as i progress but ig i was jst wrong
Which was too wholesome
Yeah ptime skip actuay does more than one chp an episode
pre timeskip pacing is still horrible
Yeah fmi punk hazard can really suck up
lol
It wasn't
im talking about current rn
man fuck FMI 😭
should have watched fmi remake bro
what is kenjiro tsudo known for
i watched it and i thought fmi was the best arc
Um also I just remembered
Oh yeah lol but that's how shounen was done sadly
it was seriously a life saver
yeah ik
You shldnt actually be here
It sucks man but wit piece
Think of all the SBS’s and Cover pages you’ve missed
There are alot of spoilers u might want to avoid
zoro dies
The Elbaf preview trailer looks mid
Holy voice acting merchant
yea im never here jst wanted to get opinions on if i switch to manga or not
Always manga but anime is nice
but yea i think im switching
mfs get slandered for having a job now
But its not the whole series
is that it?
Upto wano ending
the way the post talked about I thought dude was the second coming
haven't your heard his works?
the bb voice actor is much better and hes been in the series for way longer
op always had good voice acting
wit piece will fall short
doffy va too
I hope they just recast everyone
i would post a video on Ryuga by Kenjiro Tsuda but it's spoilers so
Post it in os
Same

Pretty sure they are having. A hard time picking actors
Kenjiro Tsuda also voiced Death from puss in boots
doffy live action preview
Could have been a gold blackbeard vote
Nah bro was hanes
could have been
Its ok bb doesn't need my vote
they did not do him justice with this portrait
Luffy VA is impossible casting, everyone else can be acceptable
sorry man but only rocks is getting votes this poll
Agree
But apparently she already picked her successor
bro looks like frieren looking up meme
nepo baby
What about buggy vote
nah i doubt it, there’s a whole plot point about loki telling luffy where shanks is
I think dragon would be cool and the fanbase wouldn’t be able to say he hasn’t done shit anymore😂
Blackbeard is probably going to the holy land right now for his plan
by that logic, we add garp + dragon for luffy
Buggy and shanks combine

Nah garp and koby
poll ends in 3 months
ace + sabo votes also go to luffy
Like, every yamato vote is a carrot vote if you think about it
well more like 2 months
Carrot votes are more valid
Lol how I imagine it, imus in mid bong rip and rocks is like hey!
Biblu votes are appreciated
Both deserve condeming
🩷
I deff believe Bilbo is shamrock grandsons uncle
people tryina overplay rocks in that scene like imu didn't even acknowledge his existence
I'm being funnnnyy you know I'm a xebec stan I won't even call him rocks it disgust me
It was enough to etch him into his memory
Davey D. Xebec the true king of the world!!!

blackbeard is appearing next episode right
Still yappin about him in the present
True he does remember rocks name
carried by davy clan im afraid
Nepo baby

Imu is being bothered by insects
it's like the fly that you can't get out of your room
I hope Imu kills bb soul and mind and rocks takes it over in anger
No
or just let Luffy do it
Blackbeard can watch
To holy knight tier
wym over like that its just 1% of imus powers and it was enough to exhaust both luffy and loki
bro was remote mogging luffy
Loki hasn’t actually landed a blow yet
Nah shanks likely has elbaf as his territory so he pulling up
Considering he can kill HKs
At the farrr end
Though it may not work anyway
Imu moving before Dragon btw
I mean they didnt do anything so I wouldnt call it a fight
No he wont.
remember when people said dragon was attacking marijois
Meant more the fushion of gunko and imu
Man people say imu is going to elbaf but what if he/she actually goes to punk hazard to free the galleila giants
Imu just started
I mean that still is likely
Oda has no plan
Yea sure pal anyway
Nothing changed that
Imu didn’t mog anything breh
they did
0
Trust the insurgent serpent
It’s a really small interaction especially if he comes down
Thought about that but domi reversi has been nullified by forest god. It will be useless
Luffy & Loki have been transformed for a while
@graceful grove it's still weird how chopper might actually be the forest god
Man...
Chopper arc
Does Imu even need the abyss to travel
It's probably true at this point
Awakened chopper

Awakened brook
Awakened robin
Tbh the way I’ve imagined it in my head
He basically descends from the sky or something

But who knows
he probably goes through the pentagram placed in Ouest castle
I think it I'll take Imu sometime
That's why I think we might have some people showing up
It also seems like Imu is going solo
Imu having the confidence to go Solo is scary af
Yeah
It’s also just possible that Imu could place an abyss himself
Wherever he needs to go
I'm guessing it's going to force a contract
they don't need to, a pentagram already is on Elbaph
they'd just go through the one in Ouest castle
Yeah idk if Imu can use them tho
Harald made one 😔
why wouldn't they, lol
Since it seems to be its own power
Ye but he could just spawn in in front of his main enemies
yeah which Imu is in control over
I'm so disappointed how elbaf was not usopp arc
Bro he got sabo and friends 🙏🏾
Idk seems to easy
Imu just saw luffy out of stamina and loki also struggling before he dipped.
Imu didn't see them struggle nor out of stamina
it's clear that they left because Gunko is too weak of a vessel
We're probably getting a second taste of that ancient Haki
Elbaph might be unrecognizable after Imu is done
It would be very bad if he doesn't, both Loki and luffy aren't at Joy boy level and imu is someone who dealt with him
the Imu reveal is closer then ever before
Reread chapter. Oda literally made a point of it
Imu’s so nice that he’ll wait for them to recover 
Could Imu be a burnt out Nika
i still don't think that's the reason
Like when the sun burns out
Doesn't the sun turn into a negative sun or something
Or a black hole.....
I think it's like Black Holes are the end stage of Sun / Matter or something weird idk Sun Lore
i'm thinking about buying this, though i think i'll place Sabo somewhere else
Next chapter Gunko and Brook wake up and have a tearful reunion.
That thing doesn't even exist yet how tf are scientists predicting so far, crazy observation haki
I can't wait for the next chapter
Gunko flashback
I think i can,maybe 1 more week 😈
gunko frozen in 20000foot block of ice rn
Yea i dont think thats main reason but he did see it
yeah, i stand corrected
Sanji diable jumbes the ice
imu straight out of hollow knight
true
Lmao it's so far above me I can't even compute
I thought it was Imu's foot on the right
lol
Hyping these bums?
Hold on let me cook
Hajrudin luffy
Blue hammer guy Zoro
Gerd Nami
Goofy club bro Usopp
Road sanji
Yeah this is factual info
You know joyboy had the fruit too
He’s entirely carried by him saving his brother 🥀
legoland reminded me of the old sense of adventure/wonder, it was a good start to the arc
Horrible intro ngl bad first impression of a giant
he was a bad person in the intro but the intro to elbaf was good
Leave it to the Dragonball fan to have good ideas. Some ppl out here assuming imu gonna pull up in person
i mean you cant blame them right? That is the obvious implication
i do see what youre saying that it could very well be a misdirect
For me Legoland was probably the worst section of the arc that feels absolutely necessary for the sole reason that it makes the loki reveal that much more impactful
i just like the idea of we're in a unique/weird new place and we need to explore and figure out whats going on
is there any way good impression of a giant ever
don't say loki
Legoland was basically everything I dreaded about going to elbaf all in one
Every generic ass theory of the plot
All rolled into 5 chapters
for me legoland represented one piece at its best. Creativity, mystery, adventure. Exploration and discovery
legoland was slightly boring
I think the point of it was to show how much we’ve moved on from that era of the story
Like it is scarily consistent with how elbaf was initially believed to go
its tragic for me cause what we're in now, hype lords punch each other and look very hype and strong, is so boring. I want more legoland and less battling gods
It's just hard to understand why imu would quit so soon? Like, Luffy and Loki barely hurt him so why would imu assume he couldn't defeat them in gunkos body
Gunkos body isn’t imus body
i want more unique settings with mysteries to discover/explore
did you also enjoy the woods chapters in wci?
probably but i cant remember that far back with specificity
We get that in every single arc, the only difference is that we don’t have a cringe antag with early pre timeskip tier narratives
And the narratives are closer to what alabasta gave us
thats my favorite part of the arcs
The cringe antags?
the exploration/discovery
these days what i enjoy most are the emotional moments, flashbacks, and lore drops
Yeah that hasn’t really gone away in OP we just don’t get dedicated panel time to the crew specifically charting unknown waters, and we haven’t since skypeia honestly
thats part of why skepiea is so good
And it’s fantastic in skypeia
we got that in W7
and thriller bark?
But to me no one piece arc comes CLOSE to this
Definitely not water 7
beginning of water 7 was the crew just sight seeing
its usually the first phase of every arc. But it varies a lot how much that phase lasts, how interesting the setting is, etc
That’s legit in the majority of arcs
The first part of the arc is fun exploration
Then quickly into the conflict
What’s lacking is a arc dedicated to the narrative of exploration
for me exploration > lore > emotional moments >>>>>> fights
And that’s primarily because most arcs just aren’t interested in it
Yall be picking? Im greedy
happy birthday Saru
With the exception of skypeia it’s usually handled terribly when made a more important part of the narrative
pagetime is zero sum
Some dogs have all the luck
Little garden is pretty trash and if whiskey peak was any longer I’d call it trash too
Reverse mountain too but that’s too short to even have a opinion on it
That arc fr has like 3 events 😭
i think we value different things, those are all pretty good arcs for me
Fishman island too
Same(idc for whiskey peak )
That’s probably the case, for me the hardest part of the story to revisit is the majority of one piece up until alabasta
whiskey peak i liked the idea of a pirate ambush town but i think the luffy v zoro fight is very dumb
And the biggest issue? They feel the need to force a bad guy fight
Agree
We did not need Wapol as a major antag
I mean El Imu
Hanafuda I like too
Imu might be a dead sun
Did "I like one piece " get banned ? I dont remember? Shi yall might not rember them either
What 😭
Used to come in here everyday with a chopper pfp and say "I like one piece" thats it
Legit you can physically feel the drop in quality for drum island the moment we get to the climax
Haven't seen them in a while
chopper pfps are usually the most degenerate so I wouldn't be surprised
Cut out the third act climax and drum island is a S tier arc
I dont remember that person being degenerate but that could just be my experience
the secret to my youth?
Honestly I think I know my actual issue with Lego land tbh
It explores nothing abt elbaf specifically in a arc where the least developed and yet most interesting aspect is elbaf itself
it gives us a microcosm preview of elbaf
sure its through a particular lens that distorts its accuracy but thats still a purpose i think
Wdym Legoland is basically just what ppl expected elbaf to be
Only for Elbaf to be a complete flip of the script
and i bet when the conflict is fully over we'll be able to look back to legoland and see some winks/hints
Like the “fake sun god” who we thought was loki doing his evil schemes and kidnapping the strawhats for his evil kingdom
Strawhats fight fodder creatures and then escape
Oh and they happened to keep gooner loki, which added to the complete unserious expectations for lokis character.
It felt like pre because it was 5 chapters of basically one piece filler
i dont think i agree, i found it to be enjoyable at the time and expect it to also have value in hindsight. Buts thats fine, people enjoy different things
Lokis reveal to me was the actual start of the arc that REALLY gave me a idea that this arc is nothing we’ve ever expected
It’s a complete tonal shift
And tbh coming off of eggheads ending and the strawhats being WAY too happy about their escape
This wasn’t what I needed personally
yeah i wonder how legoland will tie in with the arc's climax
I don’t see how it will honestly, it’s a really really generic narrative
I just pretend that part was filler
man idek what the arc's climax is even gonna look like
I enjoyed that part
Evil king pretending to be the sun god who’s also a complete meme
Strawhats have to escape fake elbaf
maybe the arc climax will be luffy giving rodo gear 5 form
We still don't know who woke up nami right? Something might come off it
i just assume it was rodo
Shs bonding and playing around with low stakss is something I digged cause them just being in high stake enviornment was becoming too common and I feel the arc beginning as perfect break from that
Unless elbaf itself is also completely fake idk how it’s at all relevant other than being a I’d hope intentionally generic one piece premise
I honestly got that from early egghead more than this
And one of my few issues with egghead is that I wished that part was longer
I really think Oda just wanted to celebrate Lego sets lol
I Miss strawhat bonding
He's the mangaka world beta marketer
Exploring egghead island for the short time we had plus strawhats doing fun stuff >>>> Legoland imo
We don't have op lego sets right? Only LA
Yeah
They seem to have an issue with anime or something
ESP given this is the final saga ong i cannot take anything resembling early pre timeskip anymore
Same ,I didnt care much for GV tho :/
Let's go fronsen so proud, now i want u to attack number 3 on the enemy side
Th mid you mean
GV would be better in anime i feel, toei has a chance to do it much better than the manga

Owari da
Th9 is the best
Post egghead was the first time I dropped one piece outright since Wanos ending tbh
Absolutely will be better in the anime, there's no doubt.
Not specifically because of Lego land but because eggheads ending really REALLY fuckin scared me
Why? I loved gv
Especially the consequences to it
Yes I think
Harald my goat man
Why?
Enis Lobby will always be the peak
It felt like a rocks glaze fest majority of the time. I loved everything besides Xebec himself which is why I said GV,cause I enjoyed the loki and harald stuff alot
And everything else with everyone else
Smh can't see the greatness that is Davey D.
That's the most fun part
Realsies
Thats fine, ur entitled to ur opinion. I just didnt care for the nonstop Hype moments and Aura farming,plus the repetitive clashes really took my momentum away
But the interactions between the crews and other character where great. Even rocks and his interactions with his crew were great, I think it was the solo stuff I wasn't fond of
he left
Aww shame, I think he would've been excited to talk about the new chopper stuff
Honestly I feel like if anything god valley wasn’t long enough
My biggest issue bar none with god valley was its ending
see duality of man. I feel like god valley was too long
Gimme a min tesoro I need to drink milk
Specifically how they handled the rocks pirates
Okay,have fun 😁
Ill tell why I enjoyed rocks and gv
Rocks himself I have no issues with
yeah i liked him, a little unhinged but funny guy
Same, I felt like GV should've been a purely dedicated backstory,not an event among 3 different ones
The rocks pirates just leaving rocks after all the great interactions and chemistry ESPECIALLY with the more major crewmates was woefully disappointing
I genuinely couldn’t tell you why they made it seem like Kaido was emotionally invested in god valley and the rocks pirates falling
We didn't even see barbell after the Rocks pirates charged the island
The MF escaped with a toothy grin
He’s in nika heaven
See this I’ll let you cook on purely for the sentiment
i think if rocks actually sold them out to save his family their attitudes would make more sense
Gil Bastar barely spoke,Kyo was offscreened i think, and Barbell literally disappeared
Domi rocks was severely overhated though
If anything they were fucking FURIOUS that they had any rats on the crew to begin with
When they saw the Don fucking dead on the ground in the rain
That did NOT feel like the same crew that ran away from rocks
Perfect
TRUE, and I wish we would've seen Big Moms reaction because the 3 kids were still there
Would've love to see her get the kids out of there
plot was fine, shakky herself i didnt really care for
Honestly the lead up to god valley and the rocks fight overall were the best parts
Rocks as a character is excellent
And a massive reason for this is his relationship with Harald
Which is the only reason why I wouldn’t cut god valley from the Harald flashback
That relationship was absolutely top tier
Loved seeing Kuma in action again too, its always a treat
Actually another issue I have
Rocks pirates and gods knights should’ve had far more screen time
Holy knights did absolutely jack shit
And we gotta remember this was before ppl seriously lost that sense of threat they had
oda rushed back to the main story
Which is crazy since I’d expect the Harald stuff to be rushed
And god valley extended
It sucks to pick and choose and I’d rather not
They’re both extremely valuable as narratives to me
Everything before and after god valley is S tier
Contending with Kuma for the best flashback in the story
Then following it up with the full loki fruit reveal
And jaruls haunting speech
It takes a LOT to make me feel like nika is a lesser figure to the god of war
it would be cool if they showed us some missions harald went on
Not necessary for a flashback
That’s how you know the flashback was so good , people started expecting things from it that we only ever get in present time 
Forgot you were in a flashback lol just regular one piece vibes
More Harald in general even filler
He got a weird amount of hate ngl
It’s a flashback lol
We’re not meant to spend a lot of time in any part of it , and any fight is always snippets
As every flashback before it , since 1997
hello
@maiden charm
Loki is set up to get a lot of focus throughout the rest of the story
Hopefully beyond Elbaf as well
well we'll get lots of harald, loki and more WHEN ELBAF APPEARS... THIS APRIL!!!!!!!!!!!
this april...
Do not need someone so significant in Imu’s eyes to be relegated to background set piece
why i loved gv is bcs it gave birth to so many ideologies we see from the characters which turned out to be great in future
his connection to imu guarantees it
Exactly
nidhogg
on part to that we see rocks paralleling with luffy as well
it seems like weevil and blackbeard might have been the same character at one point, like moria and kuma and then they were split
their whole crew dynamic and shit completely being opposite to what strawhats are
Yeah we see the birth of BM and kaidos ideologies in its early stages and how they formed their outlooks , Including how they felt betrayed by what rocks did at the end
rocks believed he could get everything he wanted with domination
Typos
replacing domination with the same isnt helping anything
now this part was for the users
ffs
why did i say users
i meant readers
true
including whitebeard
garp roger and dragon
ppl complain about wb stuff being weird but i find it more than enough even tho i do get the more we could have had the better
Yep so much confusion at the end and it shows why they stopped talking about each other openly after it was over
WB stuff was interesting enough , I’m still laughing at Marcos dad
rocks also showed us why a single person cant do shit against the tyrannical powers of this world
the gil addition and shanks sidequest was too much fun
That’s why crew unity is such an important point
yes
also indirectly giving depth to blackbeard
man gv was such a masterpiece lmao
Yea i agree with all this
It makes BB worse
You gotta trust your captain and all be so tight with each other that you view a betrayal as an enemy attack rather than something genuine
shut uo spice
It makes him better because he stands out as his own unique individual rather than a rocks copy in personality
No copy paste here
Its literally the haki clashes and the aura farming that I dont like thats it, i didnt care for the rayleigh stussy plot line but it didnt bother that me as much as it did others.
i agree, if bb were just rocks 2.0 it would have made bb worse but the fact that hes very different makes bb better
Loved everything else
Hypocritical ass keeps yapping about dreams while copying his dad's
Being bothered by that plotline was such a psy op , it literally was just something to get characters there and then they fought for different reasons , people getting mad that characters have to get to places in a believable way
rocks giving up his duty/role/what he has to do "the fated guy"
imu saying ur the davy jones and him replying no imnot davy jones is him accepting that he sacrificed his duty for the love of family
is how i see rocks in gv
idk about dream but clearly the highest value to rocks was family, that he was willing to set aside his goals and go into what he suspected was a trap to save his family. BB is the opposite, he betrayed his family, killing his adopted brother and father to further his dream
That makes him interesting! But in personality , like more evil tho sure , at least he’s not acting like a nepo baby! (Yet)
that too gets worse once he realises in the end he couldnt even save his family
The ship name...
That’s the only thing lol
he failed everything and everyone
An even then hasn’t mentioned it on screen
And thats the perfect way to view,thats how he should be viewed.
Only vivre cards for whatever reason lol
youre missing the forest for the trees
all the hype and aura moments are for us to realise that domination and power alone isnt enough to change the world
Definitely, plus people always forget none of this would've happened if it wasnt for ginny and ivankov
Tbh Oda probably thinking of a good place to introduce that ship name , maybe he feels the moment has passed to do so lol
theres a token little nod to his dad but how he actually acts and pursues his goals is opposite to his dad
That part is cool, I agree
But it's literally impossible at this point that Rocks doesn't factor into his motivation and that's lame
i dont think thats true
this is also why i love harald and rocks friendship too much
we were given so little of it
yet it was so perfect for both of them
Same
rocks saw harald accepting him as someone who didnt see him for what rocks was achieving/his goal/his duty or his fate however you frame it
we still see rocks constantly try to pursue harald and he just rejects them both of them were bounded by their responsibilities
harald going to kill rocks and their clash is where it peaked
they decide to go their ways for their duties
and in the end when harald heard what happened to xebec we see a fucking breakdown of harald's char
to him there was no other options anymore left , there never were but this just made him go down in the rabbit hole deeper
Maybe if Eris had died there would still be a chance that BB's objectives were truly his own, but she didn't
what are you talking about
Continuation to this
She obviously told him what to do
i dont think thats guaranteed
I think there is still a spin on that we just gotta see BB back story
major problem here
pls tell me why inherited dreams are bad
we dont even know what happens with eris
Maybe that hypocrisy is intentional by Oda though so idk
after seeing what happened to rocks
maybe thats his motivation
theres only speculation here cause in the end we dont know
She at the very least left Teach a journal or something
I think its very possible she just wanted him to have a happy quiet life rather than sending him to become king of the world
even if its being told considering the circumstances its no bullshit
very likely to be true
Teach had to learn everything he knows from somewhere
if shes dead its probably for some peace wanting thing plot which caused her death
making it worse for blackbeard
Nahh
That would be dumb, she clearly was in agreement with Rocks' plan
we are only sure about him knowing one thing that is the dfs
It's implied he knows about Imu
the plan just seems stupid if eris sent him on it.
My young child, go join whitebeard so that maybe sometime in the next 3 decades youll come across this destiny fruit and be able to take over the world
i will throw a tantrum like a big fat baby
The plan might have been his own but she told him about the fruit at least
its only natural for her to not want the samething which happened with rocks for bb
Orrrrr she'd make sure Teach was actually prepared
sure
what evidence is there of that?
its just speculations
she sent him off when he was like 8-12\
he didnt get going till he was like 38
the finely crafted plan was to like.. wander around for 30 years?
I'd say it's more inference than speculation
lmfao
wait. ignore my first reply to you. I thought you meant estrid, not eris. it's OK if Eris is still alive.
Yeah, we know his plans aren't exactly the greatest
well theres more than one "inference" then
But he clearly thought the fruit was so important that he couldn't do it without it
right doesnt this seem kinda like a rough idea and not a finely crafted destiny quest given by a parent?
Still not vibing with how Oda did that
I'm not saying Eris gave him a road map of everything he had to do
if all eris had to offer was try and find this fruit. its somewhere in the world. who knows where. It would be psychotic for her to send her child to a life of piracy on this quest
Wasn't "Eris" on one of the demonic circles?
I'm saying she told him about things he'd need to do if he were to succeed where Rocks failed
The only thing that makes it fruitful to me is that it gave Harald and Loki a touching moment
nah thats bs pattern recognition imo
so its not bb actually just copying everything from what he was told
something like that
Everything no but his endgoal yes
I'm going to ignore this and double down.
if we accept theres meaningful information in the runes, are you excited for HLKSE?
gonna be the sickest acronym ever
i cant wait for e6Ln|v to show up
To be fair, it worked perfectly. Anyways, the reason behind wandering around so much is that the entire plan hinged on the fruit
Yeah Teach knew very well the fruit was a mandatory step of the process
So yeah, betting his entire life on it makes sense
bruh im going insane
maybe but as we downgrade eris' level of influence it bothers me less and less
I bet five bucks Eris gave Teach a push in the right direction with a little bit of history she learned from Rocks.
How Rocks never knew about Nika, however, is insane to me.
omfg icon
This is all likely passed down in the Davy line
nika was probably an unknown figure before the void century that got ressurrected by joyboy talking to the giants or something
Is that not true lol
Yes
His dream isn't really his
And it's not comparable to other instances of inherited will
oh ok
it would be interesting if Davy clan didnt really know Nika, but was aware of an Imu like entity over the ages.
Teach not sleeping has to borrow someone else’s dream
how wld you know that?? maybe he had enough of this world and decided to go dwon the path of davy's
Like I said, that hypocrisy could be intentional by Oda, so I'm gonna wait and see. But I don't like where it seems to be going
yeah, like Orochi
cause he was there and he saw everything ha[pen with his own eyes
even if he was told about the fruits
My assumtion with Rocks' intro is that he was aware of, at the very least, a secret ruler of the world. Though it would maybe be odd to me if he knew about Imu but not Nika since the fruit was used by Joy Boy, who probably knew and/or opposed Imu 800 years ago.
Completely by chance? Or because he was told about that history
I can’t think of any reason why Rocks bull rushed the flower room unless they had some foreknowledge on Imu
maybe he always had it in him
we see doffy being mad
and his brother who had gone thru the same shit
man i hope the next chapter is a cutaway
was alright
remember how barto just "died"
he probably wanted to see if the rumors were true, he knew he was strong enough to get in there, but not strong enough to win a 1x1 battle
if the next chapter is a cutaway, please mute Icon for 3 weeks
don't you dare do this to me oda
bcs he was there to see what happened to his dad and possibly his mom had a tragic end as well
the fact oda drops Rocks kills an admiral before visiting Imu shows how confidant Rocks was that he was the strongest Davy in centuries, and enough to go to holy land
Let’s see what Koby’s up to
i love koby but NO
NUH UH
I need to see Imu wreck shit. kill someone, anything
the story should be coming to a close. The other players should be making moves while shit is going down in elbaf not waiting for luffy to advance the plot
it could also be this - eris always had doubts to whether tell bb everything or not , bb knew about her hiding something , when she died he went berserk and decided to reach for the thing his mom was hiding
i guess we already see that with mariejois on fire so lets switch to their perspective
now that people have mentiond the possibility of the owl retreating to the heaven realm, it makes you wonder if that could be the case and extend the elbaf arc (though not sure what happens after imu leaves)
rip nami in half
genzo unleashes, comes to kill luffy
"Nami, you are a shame to the Nerona family name." - Imu 
Close. She unleashed her latent Nerona curse mark snd regenerates
Switching back to marijoa but with CDs eating each other out of desperation. Goda.
theres a chance we dont see strawhats in the next chapter at all
Kill? LMAO
thats ridiculous
that's fine as long as we get even imu and loki
Perhaps Imu needs Vivi for some reason and is going to track her down.
theyd eat the slaves first
He gets his one in Cobra and thats it
THEN each other
damn. true. 🙁
The rest he's Kaido-like
the slaves eat the rich CDs instead 
Ok but Eris HAD to tell him about certain things, like the fruit and likely Imu too given his goal
elbaf of course
Yeah maybe
Viva, Elbaf, Punk Hazard
I know that’s what it said in the little flavor text
only if bb didn't kill her before that
Elbaf would be interesting but it prob wouldn’t be when Luffy and co are here
Hmm
I dont think Imu is going to head right to Elbaf.
To find the one piece first. He can’t beat Luffy so totally demoralize him and steal his dream
def Elbaph
#also-manga message tbh even if its not this, im pretty sure oda will do a good job handling his golden cards backstory
elbaf is >51% but it could be a misdirect. i dont think it iwll be though
Imu is going to recreate Luffy’s journey 1:1
I’m sure eventually but right away? Idk
Maybe to clean up loose ends lol
But may be a misdirect
But where would he find it? He ran into the remains of god valley or something?
like in a book which eris kept with her in secrecy



