also-manga

[pine scaffold]

😭

[digital spear]

I like how pleased he is with this information

[pine scaffold]

Garling slander brings me joy

[ashen perch]

Probably Eris

[tough igloo]

it’s well deserved

[grand flower]

Saiyans the second they find out they’re stronger than you:

[pine scaffold]

Yeah, nobody should be trying to defend him lol

Bro killed his own wife 🥀

[digital spear]

W

[rose brook]

Yeah theres no way shes normal, named after a literal dwarf planet & the greek Goddess of chaos.

[hot cairn]

who? turn the page?

[rose brook]

He was in drum for a reason

[frigid gulch]

After Harald confirms that he’s immortal by telling the guards to kill him, he’s insistent on Loki obtaining this fruit to kill him. I know you’re saying yea “this would just make Loki strong enough to kill him” as opposed to Gaban & Shanks but Harald didn’t even experience regen by that point so how would he know about conq doing anything. Not to mention, I imagine he thought Loki was a conqueror but it wasn’t confirmed to him up until the very end. So then how exactly can he bank on something being able to take him out if it turns out that it actually doesn’t. Just power isn’t enough either

[digital spear]

yeah the boy

[hot cairn]

his videos are pretty good

[frigid gulch]

That’s my main thing

[deep chasm]

Regardless by your logic harald would have no clue what would kill him. If hes not knowledgeable enough to know haki would kill him, he wouldnt know the fruit would kill him either

[frigid gulch]

So then why is he insistent on it

It came to him in a dream?

[deep chasm]

Thats not something that matters, thats a question you have regardless

[rose brook]

Maybe its not about killing him he just wanted Loki to have the fruit

[deep chasm]

I can ask you the same thing

[frigid gulch]

Wut

[pine scaffold]

who?

[frigid gulch]

No it was to stop him

[deep chasm]

why is he insistent that the fruit would work? Youre saying in the case that haki does the trick, he still wouldnt know enough about his regen to know haki works

the same thing works for your current take

[hot cairn]

a youtube channel called turn the page

really good OP content

[deep chasm]

he isnt knowledgeable about his immortality, how does he know lokis fruit would stop it?

[pine scaffold]

I typed it up on yt and nothing is coming up

fucking metallica is coming up

[hot cairn]

dale pa abajo

[urban epoch]

He probably was insisting on Loki eating because he was aware of what might come out of Elbaph if he took the Nidhogg fruit himself

[hot cairn]

oh shit my bad

[pine scaffold]

what.

[frigid gulch]

That’s exactly my point. He somehow knows that it can kill him. Do you think Oda is writing that in there just to play it off and say no it’s something else

[hot cairn]

why did I write in spanish lmao

[pine scaffold]

This is frying me

😭

[urban lodge]

Already breaking rules smh

[pine scaffold]

Bro turned spanish mode

[deep chasm]

Bro that doesnt answer it though. How would he know it can kill him? IUf youre arguing he knows so little about immortality that he wouldnt know haki could kill him, how would he know the fruit can kill him?

the point is thats an issue for you regardless

thats not solved by you thinking the fruit kills immortals. The same questions exists as to how he would know that

[frigid gulch]

We don’t know. But he does. Maybe because Rocks told him

[hot cairn]

https://youtu.be/vy8SnPiOeCU?si=RtLFqoSYjnbPMzVV

[urban lodge]

Ew

[hot cairn]

there you go

[deep chasm]

Or youre wrong. The situation is the same either way is what Im telling you

[hot cairn]

had to be a rocks video cause I know Sb loves Rocks

but he has others that are pretty good too

[frigid gulch]

?? He would have to some basis for supposing that it could kill him

[hot cairn]

about other characters

[urban lodge]

I hope it's clickbait

Anyway watch Evil Puff

[frigid gulch]

Whether that’s Rocks or a legend

[deep chasm]

Brother, in my or your scenario, he is not knowledgeable about immortality

if you suddenly think rocks told him

why cant I say rocks told him haki works

[hot cairn]

https://youtu.be/MpLx15puUF4?si=4AVFH47rYaJ3it5R I love Luffy

peep that video @grand flower

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-calender-gif-15583441783995498400

This puts a smile on my face

[frigid gulch]

Because Rocks didn’t know shit about their powers until GV

[deep chasm]

so then how would rocks tell him a fruit kills immortals gang

[frigid gulch]

The same way he knows about the fruit’s true power being brought out by Harald

He knows stuff

[deep chasm]

bro

you cant say oh yea no way rocks knows haki kills immortals, but then say he knows the fruit kills immortals

that just isnt consistent

[frigid gulch]

But it is

[deep chasm]

either rocks could know all of it or he didnt know none of it

He knows stuff, but only stuff thats convenient to my argument

[frigid gulch]

Because his knowledge is incomplete. He has his plan but he also isn’t entirely aware of Imu’s powers

But he does know at least about Nidhogg

[deep chasm]

Okay so how are you determining this incomplete knowledge can include a fruit killing an immortal but not haki killing an immortal

[frigid gulch]

Because Rocks didn’t seem to encounter the likes of the Knights up until GV

[deep chasm]

so he wouldnt know that either force works on them

you can say "well he knows about nidhogg" he knows about haki too

[frigid gulch]

Yes besides the fruit

[deep chasm]

its the same thing

[frigid gulch]

No it ain’t

[deep chasm]

He knows about haki and he knows about the fruit

[frigid gulch]

That knowledge he knows specifically

[deep chasm]

dude

he specifically knows info about haki too

[frigid gulch]

He can’t tell Harald about something he doesn’t know

No he doesn’t

[deep chasm]

so rocks doesnt know anything about haki

[frigid gulch]

Nice

That’s totally what I’m saying

[deep chasm]

Yes, that is what youre saying right now

[frigid gulch]

No it ain’t

It’s a strawman

[deep chasm]

youre saying him knowing about a fruit, and not ever meeting a holy knight

means he somehow can know that the fruit kills immortals

but him knowing about haki

doesnt mean he could know it kills immortals

why do you assume he knows more about nidhogg than he knows about haki in the first place?

one thing he uses, is experienced with, etc

the other, all you know is he knows its strong and in elbaf

[frigid gulch]

It’s really not that crazy. The knowledge he has about Nidhogg and his whole plan, we have no idea how he obtained it, we can only guess. But still, even then, he didn’t seem familiar with the abilities of these guys, so whatever knowledge he has didn’t work and it would indicate he never ran into them. If Rocks had fought them beforehand just like the Roger Pirates encountering them, he would’ve learned like they did

[deep chasm]

So if hes not familiar with the abilities of the immortals, you saying he can know the fruit kills immortals doesnt make much sense

especially when you cant admit he could do the same with haki if that were the answer

[frigid gulch]

It doesn’t work like that

[deep chasm]

Thats exactly how that works

knowing about a fruit wouldnt tell you how it specifically interatcs with an ability youve never heard of

you think he couldnt put together that haki kills immortals, but magically he can know that the fruit (which for all we know he knows less of than haki) does

You actually have 0 reason to make it seem like he can know the fruit hurts them but the haki cant

[frigid gulch]

It absolutely could. We don’t know the extent of his knowledge. It’s the same way he knows about an ancient giant being able to draw out its true power. Maybe it’s through legends or what not. And that’s assuming Rocks even told him anyway

I’m not saying he did for sure

[deep chasm]

"We dont know the extent of his knowledge" but somehow this only applies to the fruit and not the haki

right

[frigid gulch]

Yes because I told you why

[deep chasm]

No you didnt, youre being inconsistent

he knows about the fruit, he knows about haki

[frigid gulch]

It did not seem like he had interacted with them beforehand

[deep chasm]

we actually have more evidence for him knowing about haki than the fruit

[deep chasm]

dude

this goes in both scenarios

I dont know why you keep bringing this up

[frigid gulch]

No it doesn’t

[glacial bear]

Guys guys

[deep chasm]

is this ragebait

[glacial bear]

Let’s all relax

[deep chasm]

Your argument is he can know the fruit kills immortals

[glacial bear]

only I get to be mad in this server

[deep chasm]

if he doesnt know about immortals and has not interacted with them

dont you think thats important

He knows about the fruit, he doesnt know about immortals, how does he put together that it kills immortals?

[urban epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-eating-popcorn-popcorn-plankton-meme-plankton-yes-gif-18251234252356731757

[frigid gulch]

Because of knowledge imparted to him about it. The whole point of me bringing up those interactions is because if he also had knowledge about it, what exactly does he need to go about this whole roundabout route for with powers and amassing the Galleila and all that if simply haki is the answer

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/ooh-ooo-cat-shocked-funny-gif-14366308

[deep chasm]

Okay, so he has knowledge about haki, so that tells him it kills immortals

great, same thing

[frigid gulch]

Cool yes

[deep chasm]

Theres literally no difference. You want there to be some magic where knowing about a fruit gets rid of the issue where he doesnt know about immortals

but somehow this doesnt apply for haki

"but he hadnt interatced with them" exists in both scenarios

you have to assume either way that somehow he knows about it despite not interacting with it

its just called being inconsistent

[deep chasm]

This is also not at all the point you were making. And haki killing immortals doesnt mean he wouldnt want the crazy firepower of these fruits + galeila people

Its the same as the scenario I mentioned. Something giving you the potential to kill someone doesnt mean youll actually be able to overpower them enough to win

Cracker got haki to kill kizaru with, he would still never be able to make that happen. Rocks can have haki to kill an immortal and still not be strong enough to overpower imu

[urban epoch]

Lets be real, this is THE panel of the year

Also it's meme worthy

[deep chasm]

funniest thing oda has put into his story in a while

[hot cairn]

peak

[urban epoch]

[dapper tree]

These were the best panels of the chapter

[urban lodge]

What the fuck bruh lmao

[dapper tree]

3rd best

[urban lodge]

The botting keeps going

It was 17 million this morning

[dapper tree]

ANOTHER 10 MILLION FOR JACK

[urban lodge]

They would never be that based

[dapper tree]

I wish

[soft tangle]

Bb fans don’t need petty tactics

[urban lodge]

The saddest part about it is that they're definitely botting characters that don't even need to be botted cause they'd be top 5 anyway

[rose rune]

"all according to plan"

[urban lodge]

Mjosgard's handsome father

[dapper tree]

My votes are gonna get buried by the botters

[rose rune]

he would defeat Fujitora in a 1v1 because he has already conquered gravity

[solid mantle]

bot back

[glacial bear]

Voting is meaningless

Always knew the system was rigged smh

[frigid gulch]

Let’s break it down like this. Harald relies on Loki to eat the fruit, somehow knowing this fruit would have the ability to put him down in this state. We’ve established that he hasn’t experienced regeneration up until that point and wouldn’t know about conq working on him through sheer experience. The only way is if Rocks told him about it assuming Rocks knew it could. First of all, the way you’re treating it, you almost make it sound like I’m saying for certain that Rocks told him, which isn’t exactly what I’m saying. It’s only one scenario particularly where he’s a person with esoteric knowledge so you’d think oh maybe he’d know. The issue with Rocks is, he didn’t seem to know that much about their abilities, he just knows Imu is a force that requires all this stuff. You’re saying Rocks could’ve also known that it was the counter to the regeneration due to his knowledge but when he fights Garling, he said he was fighting to “kill.” Something he clearly didn’t do to Garling. That would be inconsistent with this supposed knowledge and even his words.

[grand flower]

Let’s meet up and do this

[frigid gulch]

Plus while it’s true that the firepower is useful, the Galleila are more than just that, theyre shipwrights that actually build stuff

Plus what is the point of power when it can’t kill these individuals

That’s where hax come in

[rustic coral]

yes

[dapper tree]

finally

[deep chasm]

Im saying if your logic is "he can know fruit kills immortals cuz of information he got about the fruit" then the same works for haki. In both cases its a power, and then theres a completely separate group of people with their own power. I personally think he wouldnt know either way. But you cant (in a consistent way) say he'd know the fruit would kill them, but couldnt know haki could kill them.

I think ultimately harald just knew the fruit was a legendary and very powerful fruit, so he thought the best bet was Loki eating that and trying to win. Reminder that at this time he did not know shanks/scopper were even around, so its not like bhe could bet on them even if he thought they were strong enough.

And again, the point of it is power. The same way big mom was upset about not getting the giants. Its not like she expected the giants to be helping her jump kaido, she wanted them for the army. Rocks alone being able to somehow kill the gorosei wont do enough for him if he doesnt have an army that can help him against WGs troops. And he probably isnt beating Imu unless he gets more powerful anyway (hence why fruits get involved)

I think thats the big problem and what I tried to explain in my scenario. Not just you, but many people are confusing the idea that a character wants a to beat an enemy, to mean that its impossible to beat said enemy without a fruit

I can have haki, it doesnt mean Ill beat akainu. But yea maybe if you give me the nidhogg fruit on top of it I can win

[fallen meteor]

oh shit penny you are a helper now

congrats

[urban lodge]

Thanks!

[ornate tartan]

congrats fellow gunko fan

[urban lodge]

Thank you

[fallen meteor]

do you feel more helpful already

[ornate tartan]

how ironic, i was just about to ask for help

[urban lodge]

I didn't mute meek when he asked so i'm a failure

[ornate tartan]

😂

[dapper tree]

forever mute him

[prisma idol]

He is green carded rn

[fallen meteor]

just noticed you still have the retired staff role
retired but still working

[prisma idol]

Funny enough this runs in my family

[dapper tree]

that's just life

[fallen meteor]

my mother did this too

retired but kept working for like 10 more years

[hot cairn]

I need the next chapter

NOW

[rapid ridge]

Check staff chat

[hot cairn]

lol me too

[rapid ridge]

SIKE

[maiden saffron]

its so funny how widespread the "news" about the remake is

[hot cairn]

dang, I was fooled

[maiden saffron]

when its just the CEO saying "oh yeah we're working on it and it will be faithful"

great that it's not cancelled but still funny

[hot cairn]

people are starving for crumbs

[maiden saffron]

really looking forward to it

Indeed

[fallen meteor]

is this #staff

[hot cairn]

it's been almost 2 years since we last saw stuff about it

[maiden saffron]

tbh, i thought we'd atleast have a trailer by now

[fallen meteor]

gtz on the helper jesus

[prisma idol]

The anime remake is getting the same treatment I hear about games in development hell

[hot cairn]

me too

it's been so long

[hot cairn]

thanks Marin!

[maiden saffron]

I've heard this too but is there a source for this?

i always just hear it but dont actually know where it originates from

[prisma idol]

I think it was an interview from last year

I dont have the actual source unfortunately

[fallen meteor]

of it being in dev hell?

[maiden saffron]

well they cant be slacking off with one piece

[fallen meteor]

i have heard they are just working on it

[hot cairn]

wait it was from last year? why was everyone posting it the other day

they said that Disney is the competition

[maiden saffron]

the ceo interview is from a few days ago

[hot cairn]

my expectations are high

I expect nothing but greatness

[maiden saffron]

where he said that their goal is to make a faithful adaptation with great visuals, no filler and impeccable pacing

[prisma idol]

Look i havent kept up with anything related to the anime

[maiden saffron]

which i mean, yes is to be expected

but its nice that he said it

[hot cairn]

God please let this be good

[maiden saffron]

he talked about how their goal is to reach the modern audiences with the remake

and essentially solve the issue of people not watching OP cause its too old + has too many episodes with bad pacing (especially later on)

[frigid gulch]

But it would. Power is necessary, but only if you can also actually kill these guys. We’ve seen Saturn and Imu both take hits from multiple conquerors and come out unscathed. If we assume even one of these guys alone could kill the Gorosei with their regen, assuming their regen is at the same level as the knights, how is it that a combined attack between five conquerors failed whereas Loki is somehow able to do it. I don’t think there’s a world where he’d be more knowledgeable or experienced using it. Harald straight up tells Loki to kill him by obtaining the treasure of Elbaf. How can you suppose that somehow there’s a double meaning here and what Harald actually meant was that it’d boost him to a level that’d kill him even though we’ve seen the HKs display that even a vast gap in power is meaningless for the purpose of killing them

[deep chasm]

You yourself said Rocks didnt know about immortals. If thats the case, he may have just not been accounting for that.

Imu is stronger than the holy knights. I do not assume the regen of Imu inside of saturns body is matched by the holy knights. And as Ive said before, I think you need numerous acoc attacks to slow down their regen until they die.

There doesnt need to be a double meaning. Harald never says "the fruit will stop my immortality" either. He just thinks he'd be super strong, and tells Loki to go eat the fruit cuz he sees that as the best chance. That doesnt make a double meaning, that would just mean he saw eating the legendary fruit was the best chance

[dense rapids]

When I look at all Oda’s OP drafts drawings like these make me think this is what the VC or the first world will look like 🤣

Blue Hair Bhanks was real 😭

[frigid gulch]

I don’t think there’s any need to “account” for it to be honest. It just seems like you have to use it and then repeatedly attack. Unless you mean mass. But Loki def didn’t use all of his to kill Harald. As for Imu and Saturn, the way I view it, it seemed more like Imu piloting Saturn’s body compared to Imu actually changing his composition. The reason I think that is because Imu’s shadow or whatever it was got hit and instantly recovered but Saturn’s body was still recovering throughout multiple panels. Also seems like Gunko’s body retains the characteristics but admittedly it’s hard to say in this case. Lastly, Harald actually explicitly tells Loki to kill him and just before he tells Jarul to feed Loki the treasure. Idk if I’m crazy for thinking those two are connected

[hot cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548161219249438740/1480740017445011606/IMG_5816.gif

[formal wagon]

wtf are these new?

[hot cairn]

for you @urban lodge

[dense rapids]

These are from before Oda created OP

So romance Dawn sketches I guess

[frigid gulch]

And that’s after confirming he was indeed immortal

[prisma idol]

Is this a gif for ants?

[dense rapids]

Looks like he’s just brain storming the world of OP here

[formal wagon]

yeah i mean were they newly released to the public though, i love pre one piece stuff and you keep posting things i haven't seen before

[dense rapids]

Oh naw those were released 1998

[hot cairn]

yes, ants hate Hathor

[formal wagon]

damn where are you finding this stuff? is it just on the wiki or is it straight from a color walk

[dense rapids]

Color walk

[frigid gulch]

Earlier I said, he didn’t actually know for sure Loki had conquerors. Also if he knew conquerors could kill him, he coulda just asked him or something about it and then let Loki do it. But ultimately Oda went with the whole devil fruit stuff

[deep chasm]

I was saying "account" in reference to the idea of rocks trying to face WG. He didnt account for immortality in his plans if he didnt know about it.

I think imu making saturn stronger is a safe assumption. I also think gorosei regen is better than holy knight regen regardless.

And yes, I think he was hoping loki would kill them. I just think theres a distinct difference between harald saying to go eat the fruit to kill me, and him saying Yea this fruit Im aware counters immortality. I think that was just his best hope

[formal wagon]

like your own scans from a personal copy or a website that has them all i mean

[urban lodge]

Saved

[dense rapids]

It’s a Google Drive

[formal wagon]

found one that has them all, thank you

[deep chasm]

yea, I think harald just didnt know what kills immortals. He just thought this legendary fruit must be very powerful, thats our best chance

[frigid gulch]

Alright, let’s agree to disagree then cause I gotta do some work. But I’ll say even in the case that he hopes for it to be capable of killing him, it’s not enough to just bank on power as we’ve seen, so then it’s just incomplete. But I’m not too sure if that’s what Oda is intending, we’ll have to see. That’s ultimately where the disagreement is

[formal wagon]

i should lebronestly just buy them all

[deep chasm]

Thats all you can bank on if you dont know what kills immortals in the first place.

I think the disagreement mostly comes from people thinking Loki needing the fruit meant he needed the fruit or else you cant kill an immortal

My use of the scenario was to show how you could "need" a fruit, without meaning to say haki cant kill this opponent

[frigid gulch]

Yea but when you mean “powerful” you have to mean capable of doing jt

[deep chasm]

if you disagree cuz harald asks him to get the fruit, thats something to discuss, but thats not the usual debate

[frigid gulch]

Yea.. I mean that was kinda my argument

[deep chasm]

If he does not know of any ability that kills immortals, then you would be betting on whatever is the most powerful

[hot cairn]

do you like OP post time skip mailbox?

[spice cairn]

One Piece fans dont look at the artbooks

[dense rapids]

VC tech might look like this

[spice cairn]

Ayyy caramba

[frigid gulch]

Yea but what is power

[deep chasm]

It cant be "oh well how was he sure this would work?" when he wasnt sure anything would work

He bet on the strongest thing, thats it

[deep chasm]

this is the first time youre bringing this up

[frigid gulch]

No ?

I started with it

That’s pretty much my reasoning

It’s kinda the only thing I think stops me from pointing to conq

But let’s stop here

Gotta work

[deep chasm]

We've talked about it in the past and you havent mentioned it is what I mean

[formal wagon]

I certainly prefer pre time skip, and there are a lot of facets of post ts I really don't like, but i value the settings and character designs that have been added to the story in post ts a lot

[hot cairn]

I see

that's fair

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/yungjeff/status/2035487198204620972?s=46

YUNG JEFF 🗡️ (@YUNGJEFF)

ALRIGHT HERE WE GO

I have officially begun the Sabaody Archipelago arc!!

X · Mar 21, 2026, 10:42 PM

https://tenor.com/view/i-could've-sworn-there-was-a-gif-of-this-whatever-squid-game-squid-game-edit-squid-game-edit-meme-i'm-so-scared-gif-12360771953743496060

[dense pike]

oh jesus, you got helper too i see, tuuufff

[hot cairn]

just saw someone said the usual "OP falls off post time skip"

[hot cairn]

noice

was watching his skypiea video earlier

[hot cairn]

I did yes

[dense pike]

hit em with the buzz lightyear shelf gif then let em reflect on that

classic 12402

[blazing depot]

YouTube opinion

Like that’s a sign they’re larping

[wraith mantle]

did you apply?

[blazing depot]

Everyone gon switch up on me

[dense pike]

no, i been here a year and have 0 modding history

[blazing depot]

I’m about to be whacked by the homies

[wraith mantle]

oh you didnt have an alt before?

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/el-wiro-pop-el-wiro-meme-gif-330905900172200186

[wraith mantle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/watching-you-11

[dense pike]

Well sort of, but it was 1. Years ago, and 2. operating on other servers than this one

[wraith mantle]

why not use that instead? or was it banned

[dense pike]

i didnt use it cus it got disabled years ago after getting hacked

prune the infected branches so the lemon tree can thrive

[wraith mantle]

you edited your message like 3 times lmao

bro tryna get his story right

[dense pike]

im aware. Im the one that did it.

[dense pike]

no, I want my messages to look good, hence why i tend to go back and edit typos and poor wording even while knowing noone cares

plus I feared the possibility of a misunderstanding

[dense pike]

I think that's fairly evident given the sheer quantity of messages in my message history that have received edits

[wraith mantle]

you do give me alt vibes tho

but idrc

[dense pike]

good for you

[dense pike]

if you want i can literally screenshot the moment i first heard of this server

[ornate tartan]

u top 3 already

[hot cairn]

[wraith mantle]

is that some sort of meticulously crafted cover up story or something? lol

[dense pike]

idk, you be the judge

[wraith mantle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/watching-you-11

[honest garden]

What server was that in?

[dense pike]

BDA law 💔

[honest garden]

Lol

They answered this server because they all got banned

[dense pike]

I mean low key though they were right, this place is more my style

i was about to take you up on that offer, but low key I dont want to

[cunning narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[ruby cape]

@urban sluice it’s here too

[urban sluice]

thx

[ruby cape]

and manga serious

[urban sluice]

they're getting purged rn

🙏

thx

[dense pike]

oh shit that was a bot? genuinely thought that was just normal white name behavior 😭

[ruby cape]

I think it’s just a hacked account

[dense pike]

potato potato

[ruby cape]

tomato tomato

[dense pike]

gorilla gorilla gorilla

[grand flower]

https://youtu.be/lnZET4dxlFM?si=nIBed-rZlFPmb-dn

[cunning narwhal]

the venn diagram of white name green leaf behavior and bot behavior is a circle

[ornate tartan]

that crazy place😂

[dense pike]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-super-truth-nova-truth-meme-gif-16889273424352737553

[unkempt sable]

[torn kite]

So I just realize something with all the commotion going on right now the straw hats trying to clean up whatever mess is left on elbaf and Luffy finally meeting imu I think people forgot about the fact that sommers is currently regenerating and he’ll be back up in like 20 minutes or so

[ruby cape]

!20

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/1213871410733129768/20240302_160904.png?ex=65f70cd8&is=65e497d8&hm=3939b030b95d7ab778e84362c6eb120f9462bdf0fa2af22ca3933f54e2e14a26&

[urban lodge]

35 million votes and 30 million of them are bot votes

[cunning narwhal]

i bet they'll get weeded out but it'll be interesting to see this week's results if they dont

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah it updates tomorrow

But the results are from 2 weeks before

[dapper tree]

we will see who got 15 million votes

[urban lodge]

So that's actually gonna be good

[dapper tree]

gonna be god damn jerry

or yamato's sideboob

[wraith mantle]

https://youtu.be/JqUWua4MrIM

This song still bangs

[urban lodge]

Maybe they were cooking

[dapper tree]

true

[dense pike]

Congrats on helper Penny 🥳

[urban lodge]

Thanks!

[hot cairn]

op 26 is still better

[dense pike]

You ready to turn on your D1s?

[urban sluice]

congrats on existing

you did well

when it comes to existing no one did it like you

[wraith mantle]

Op 26 had great visuals for sure

[cunning narwhal]

apparently vaundy could be doing the next op. i dont really listen to them but they did sakamoto days' op and it slaps

[dapper tree]

[urban lodge]

I will fight hard not to be put through the helper brainwashing machine

[wraith mantle]

Yeah the elbaf opening is one of the things I am looking forward to the most

[dapper tree]

they did a chainsawman one too

peak

[wraith mantle]

Opening 1 will probably be about Saul road and Loki

[dapper tree]

only like uhhhh 3 weeks more?

[dense pike]

i look forward to that day

[wraith mantle]

Opening 2 will be harald rocks god valley

[urban lodge]

I LOVE EXISTING

[dense pike]

https://tenor.com/view/im-so-jolly-im-in-so-i-love-being-alive-im-in-so-much-joy-boogie2988-gif-6548089194486770403

[dapper tree]

I remove that

[urban lodge]

Oh

[urban sluice]

top 1 exister here

[dense pike]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-4chan-reddit-gif-12469709983918782970

[dapper tree]

[dense pike]

maybe ill put in an application the next go-around. Perhaps by then I'm a lil less fresh and a lil more ripe 😼
-# though hopefully just as lemony

[fallen meteor]

i was this close to applying but it was good that i didnt

my free time vanished these weeks

[dense pike]

fair

[grand flower]

1178 @wraith mantle @dense pike @urban lodge

@ashen perch

[hot cairn]

you forgot about me smh

[dapper tree]

can kid show up yet to this arc

there ain't gonna be nothing for him to do at this point

[grand flower]

Thought you’d be asleep

[thick mango]

has your belief wavered at all with 1177 having seemingly nothing to do with kid or even opening an avenue for his entry?

[grand flower]

Naw

[urban lodge]

I think Kid will meet the burn scar man

[hot cairn]

me too penny

[urban lodge]

He was the first to mention him

[dapper tree]

kid shows up and what? complains?

[hot cairn]

I’ve said that a lot

[warm sierra]

Kid can tell the SH where burn scar is cause his bum ass is out of the race anyways

[hot cairn]

nah it’s still early

it’s 8:48 pm

[dense pike]

Why am I pinged in this

[grand flower]

Same

[dapper tree]

why would he know that

[urban lodge]

It also makes sense because he supposedly creates whirlpools so he can save Kid

[grand flower]

Don’t be ungrateful

[warm sierra]

he knows something at least

[hot cairn]

Sharon believes he’ll take down Killingham

[dapper tree]

Still????

[hot cairn]

well

[dapper tree]

Like again?

[hot cairn]

idk if that’s still up

[grand flower]

I agree cause fire scar is rocks and kid is in Davy jones locker as a member of the Davy lineage

[dapper tree]

Killingham and sommers wanna collect as many Ls as possible in one arc

[grand flower]

Yup

[gritty shuttle]

At least they look cool while doing it

[dapper tree]

but why?

[grand flower]

Kid wanted go upgrade from a dinosaur to a dragon

Killingham is a dinosaur dragon

[dapper tree]

kilingham is a down grade enemy for Kid

like really bad

[dense pike]

Hes turned full Meek 😭

[dapper tree]

Kid should have 0 issue beating killingham

[trim lily]

well he doesnt have acoc

so...

[dapper tree]

he doesn't need it

at all

[gritty shuttle]

Yet********

[hot cairn]

my predictions for the futures of Kid and Law are that Kid will somehow meet the burn scar man and Law will ally with Sword

[trim lily]

i mean dont you kind of need it to defeat a knight, though i guess he can just pull a jinbe

[dapper tree]

Put a positve charge on killingham's head and another positove charge on his body and he will never heal

[dense pike]

Cant wait for Law to show up on Lodestar

[hot cairn]

no

[dapper tree]

Kid insta wins

[dense pike]

yes

[dapper tree]

Like

[hot cairn]

no.

[dapper tree]

Killingham is no where near kid

[trim lily]

killingham himself apparently sucks yeah

all his power went to his passive army

[dapper tree]

Sommers and Killingham

[dense pike]

Yes
he is very close to Lodestar already, what makes you think he can't be there?

[dapper tree]

both are bad

both lose to seriphim

and that's bad

[trim lily]

hey now no one beats the seraphim

not even luffy and zoro could beat them

[dapper tree]

unless you have a bubble gun

[trim lily]

thank you gimmickpunk

[hot cairn]

how is he getting to Lodestar without his logpose. Also, how do you know Winner Island is close to Lodestar? We don’t know if there’s more islands in between yet

[gritty shuttle]

Sometimes the plot just needs to be moved forward

[trim lily]

there better not be another island between here and lodestar

[dapper tree]

there won't be

[gritty shuttle]

Surely something else happens in between

[hot cairn]

yeah

[trim lily]

i really think we got a straight shot

[grand flower]

When I’m right you’ll see why I don’t medicate my schizo

[hot cairn]

I don’t think we’re going to Lodestar just yet

[trim lily]

we still have return to wano to do

[hot cairn]

I think we’re going to wherever Shanks is

Loki knows where he’s at

[grand flower]

Kid has been to lodestar btw

[trim lily]

i dont think loki actually knows where shanks is

[hot cairn]

how?

[trim lily]

hes been chained up for 5 years lol

[hot cairn]

he wasn’t lying about that

[trim lily]

he lied to get luffy to untie him

[hot cairn]

vivre card

I think

[dapper tree]

we going to lodestar

don't worry

[cunning narwhal]

we'll probably go to lodestar and shanks will be there

[hot cairn]

he specifically said he wasnt lying about that

[dense pike]

"how is he getting to Lodestar without his logpose?"

• Bepo is a navigator
• It was never stated he didnt have his logpose on him
• With a logpose, all you have to do is follow to the next island, since Lodestar is where all logposes end
  "Also, how do you know Winner Island is close to Lodestar?"
• if you believe Lodestar is next after Elbaph, then Winner is even closer to Lodestar than Elbaph is (see the picture)
  "We don’t know if there’s more islands in between yet"
• true, but if youre a believer that Lodestar is next, then you must concede that Winner is even closer to Lodestar than Elbaph given the panel when all three picked their routes

[hot cairn]

I can see that happening

[trim lily]

the burn scar will be there and then the 4-way emperor battle will happen

[grand flower]

With his magnet powers, he was able to navigate the new world efficiently

He knows about the road ponegliffs, but hasnt been to Zou. Dog said you find out about them by getting to lodestar

[trim lily]

i dont remember that at all

good on loki i guess

[hot cairn]

I’m not a believer that Lodestar is next

[hot cairn]

idk about that

[dense pike]

then my hypothesis does not apply to your dogma, and you are free to dismiss it

[grand flower]

How else would he know about em tbh

Think about it bro bro

[dapper tree]

you are just a born doubter

[ornate tartan]

shuron are u sticking with the theory

kid 1178

[hot cairn]

there you go

Oda specifically pointed that out

[hot cairn]

Will do

[spiral raptor]

Is Bonney staying on Elbaf?

[hot cairn]

[dense pike]

most likely yes

[hot cairn]

supposedly

[ornate tartan]

let’s goo

[dense pike]

she was trying to get citizenship

[hot cairn]

Road poneglyphs are common knowledge in the new world

[hot cairn]

nu uh

[fallen meteor]

-# vira

[grand flower]

How you know that

[urban lodge]

Don't forget Yano

[hot cairn]

I just think there’s an arc between Elbaph and Lodestar

[dapper tree]

how can bonney stay on elbaf if the SHs arew gonna lose elbaf to the WG???????

[fallen meteor]

its Wano Yano and whats the other one again

[grand flower]

If kid don’t come back in 1178 ima DIE that’s how confident I am

[fallen meteor]

or do we just dont have the name

[dapper tree]

She has to get evicted and join the SHs

[urban lodge]

Kano

[fallen meteor]

oda is so funny

[hot cairn]

cause everyone knows the emperors had them

[dense pike]

that i agree with
My guess is that the poneglyph will have vague hints as to where the other 4 are, and the strawhats (Robin) will put together that one of the clues point to FMI (where a poneglyph was missing), and then that is when they meet Law, washed up ashore, as he spills the beans hes keeping about what he knows about Burnscar
that is my headcanon at least, im not tryna convince you with this, I just wanted to share

[hot cairn]

you think they’re losing Elbaph to the WG?

[dapper tree]

No, I am making fun of the people that think that

[hot cairn]

dawg I don’t want you to die

you need to get off that theory

[dapper tree]

the SHs ain't losing

[hot cairn]

imagine Kid shows up but in the cover request @grand flower

[cunning narwhal]

i could kinda see it happen. right at the start of next chapter before shit goes down we see his lifeless corpse wash up in the underworld

[hot cairn]

fair enough, that’s a cool idea. I personally just don’t want to see Law with the crew again

[gritty shuttle]

Why not ):

[dense pike]

fair, its just the only way I could see Lodestar being interesting
otherwise, I am actively dreading the arc

[hot cairn]

do you think Imu will beat Loki and Luffy?

[dapper tree]

No

[fallen meteor]

i kinda dont want to see law with the crew too

[dapper tree]

The fight will have no real winner

[dense pike]

No, Winners the island

and Strongers the horse

[gritty shuttle]

I really liked when law was with the crew it was fun

[dense pike]

[dapper tree]

Either Imu will get recalled back or Imu will lose control of Guinko

[ornate tartan]

the official poll is up to 35.6 Million votes and counting

[spiral raptor]

Not in Gunkos body. Luffy and Loki should be relative to Roger and Garp in GV

[ornate tartan]

botted as hell

[dapper tree]

they are stronger

[cunning narwhal]

no way imu wins here. oda is obsessed with end of arc parties and they cant have one if imu wins 😭

[urban lodge]

It was at 4 million 2 days ago

Insane

[ornate tartan]

good thing they already had the party in elbaph

[hot cairn]

tbh I’m not the biggest Law fan and I don’t enjoy how he just piggybacks with the crew. The main reason I don’t want him in the crew again is caused I’m a firm believer of #onlystrawhatsatlaughtale

[fallen meteor]

it was overall fun but i got a bit tired of law

[cunning narwhal]

they gotta have another after driving out the wg

[urban lodge]

90% of the votes are bot votes lol

[hot cairn]

that arc could be the potential place where the emperors Duke it out

[hot cairn]

then how will it end

[hot cairn]

I see

[scarlet nacelle]

i imagine the arc ends with the situation in mary geoise getting so bad imu is forced to leave elbaf

[hot cairn]

lowkey they’re stronger

[trim lily]

damn

[dense pike]

HOOORAY Dragon Ball wasteland background #572

[dapper tree]

highkey

They just are

[hot cairn]

exactly

I am too, tired of Law

I would prefer Kid coming back in an arc

[spiral raptor]

I was happy to see WCI skip Law

[hot cairn]

he wasn’t really explored in Wano that much

[dapper tree]

cause he is boring

[dense pike]

just to be clear
I never said he was joining with the crew
All I said was that hed spill the beans about Burnscar

[gritty shuttle]

I wasnt aware that also manga was anti law

[dapper tree]

kid for SH?

[dense rapids]

Crocodile’s hobby is mushroom hunting

[dapper tree]

I wanted him dead for years

[gritty shuttle]

He'd never abandon his family

[urban lodge]

Law is cool but he overstayed his welcome

[dapper tree]

No I am legally not allowed to make law theories

[dapper tree]

they all died

[gritty shuttle]

NO!!!

THEY'RE ALIVE

Im a beliver

[hot cairn]

it’s not that I hate him tbh it’s just that I grew tired of him

[dense pike]

@gritty shuttle all this vitriolic anger at Law, cus I said hed share one more measly conversation with them 💔😔

[hot cairn]

The biggest Law hater is not in the server anymore tho

[urban lodge]

Tragic

[gritty shuttle]

Who was that?

I remember them but I forgot, I wasnt around for loke a month

[hot cairn]

sanjuan wolf

[gritty shuttle]

I see

[dense pike]

god I wanna see Marco lose more loved ones

[ornate tartan]

he’s lost enough😂

[gritty shuttle]

I think that Marcos fruit will be bbs last fruit

[spiral raptor]

He defeated him in the payback war

[dense pike]

if that overrated ass fruit is his last fruit i will end myself and rise like a phoenix to the top of a skyscraper just to throw myself off again

[gritty shuttle]

Every yonko or yonko level character has some way of flying except blackbeard

[spiral raptor]

I didn’t think healing would use stamina

[gritty shuttle]

And shanks but like he can jump across ships so like whatever

[dense pike]

He can stand on Stronger and Doc Q, hes fine

also Shanks cant fly hes just Tarzan

[coral vapor]

do we still have no idea on when the WIT remake will release

[ornate tartan]

👀

[trim lily]

probably 2027

[hot cairn]

sadly no

[trim lily]

maybe late 2026

[coral vapor]

it's just adapting east blue right?

[hot cairn]

But it’s Netflix so they won’t promote it

[trim lily]

yeah

[dense pike]

I wanna see him blame his sorry self for the deaths of everyone during the payback war

[ruby moat]

oh its through netflix? fuck..

[hot cairn]

dang you hate Marco?

[gritty shuttle]

Alsp if bb takes Marcos fruit then that means that all of his abilities come from a whitebeard pirate member

[stable dock]

2030

[hot cairn]

yeah… we’re cooked

[dense pike]

Marco is the One Piece version of Ned Flanders to me

[hot cairn]

It won’t get a trailer until 1 month of it’s release schedule probably

[coral vapor]

if it just is east blue and they never decide to do the following sagas then I'll be disappointed ngl

[ruby moat]

the recent announcement/statement they made about it sounded rly promising to be fair, but neflix and release schedules.. it makes me shutter

[gritty shuttle]

It was his fault, the first thing he did after gaining control of the wb pirates was go after bb in an act of revenge and they got annihilated

[hot cairn]

there’s an anime Expo thing happening in March

Idk if wit piece will be part of it tho

Toei Piece will

[gritty shuttle]

Diamond jozu is dead and its Marcos fault 💔

[dense pike]

and he still has the GALL to act like hes some saint

[hot cairn]

yeah sadly we can’t trust Netflix with that

[hot cairn]

I wished they save Dressrosa

[coral vapor]

wouldn't be the first time Netflix fumbled one of my favorite series

[scarlet nacelle]

being so real. i feel like no matter who got put in charge there still would've been an attempt of revenge

[hot cairn]

such a good arc with a shitty adaptation

[dense pike]

he learned NOTHING from WB and Ace's deaths 😭

[gritty shuttle]

Probably but not immediately after

Like who does that

Yall just lost the carry of your crew

What do you mean go after the guy that took his fruit

[coral vapor]

Dressrosas adaptation was actually criminal its reputation tanked because of it

[hot cairn]

yeah

The arcs that the remake needs to adapt is everything post Alabasta

The pace is slow even pre time skip

[coral vapor]

I think Skypiea and Dressrosa could benefit most

[ruby moat]

Oh yeah I forgot they are remaking arcs

Which is wild

[trim lily]

well maybe

[ruby moat]

Yes

[trim lily]

east blue wit is their test run

though we already got the weird movie arc remakes lol

[ruby moat]

Oh no I mean the Toei remakes

[trim lily]

oh the recuts

[ruby moat]

Wit is entirely separate

Only Fmi so far

But I feel they’ll probably do more

[hot cairn]

I thought they would do punk Hazard during the anime break

[gritty shuttle]

I love fishman island

I was so happy when they re animated it

[hot cairn]

first time I’ve seen someone say this and I’ve been in here for almost 5 years

[dapper tree]

hey

I love it too, top 5 flashback

well

non sh flashback

[gritty shuttle]

I know, everyone else shits on it but its probably my favorite arc

They just dont understand hody and thats my cope

[hot cairn]

woah, favorite arc?

[hot cairn]

hody is an interesting villain

[hot cairn]

otohime is great

[dapper tree]

and fisher

[gritty shuttle]

Yeah, if not its top 3

I just love the environment so much and the backstory, basically everything about it works for me

Maybe i wasnt the biggest fan of the supporting cast like the brothers

But I can still appreciate them

[prisma idol]

I hope WIT piece instead suffers from being too fast because they overcompensate

[fallen meteor]

and then a new One Pace project begins to pad wit piece with extra stuff

[winter oasis]

we already did that with episode of X

[prisma idol]

Yeah but imagine its a full season of episode of X pacing

[hot cairn]

yeah those brothers are kinda boring

[winter oasis]

that would be like east blue + alabasta in 12 episodes lol

[hot cairn]

a never ending cycle

[prisma idol]

Sounds like reasonable pacing

[winter oasis]

15 chapters per ep

just offscreen every fight

[prisma idol]

They were mid anyways, cut out Little garden and Whiskey peak too

[dense haven]

yall liked the live action?

[grand flower]

Kid soon

[trim lily]

if we do 10 chaps an ep we can hit dressrosa in just 60

the people will be on their phones anyway when watching so i think its worth it

[prisma idol]

How soon

[fallen meteor]

Kid in <t:1774143777:R>

[solid stone]

i'm curious what the episode runtime's gonna be

[hot cairn]

next chapter soon

[solid stone]

are they doing 21~ min or is it gonna be more flexible

[ashen rose]

I need Loki to get his helmet back dude, he looks so cool with it

[solid stone]

i know pluto had near hour long eps, idk if that'd work with OP though

[prisma idol]

Probably 2-5 chapters an episode

[trim lily]

pretty sure itll be normal length

[solid stone]

how many minutes does tha translate to though

dang just realized

it's streaming so no eyecatches either

[trim lily]

3-6 chaps per ep seems about right

[solid stone]

times changing.....

[prisma idol]

21-23 minutes per episode, which is the usual for anime epsidoes

[solid stone]

right, i wonder if they'll be a little more flexible though

[trim lily]

probably a little depending on the episode

[solid stone]

only netflix anime i've seen was pluto, which went for around an hour per ep

[hot cairn]

vortex do you think Loki can get domi reversid?

[ashen rose]

Perchance

I'd say him getting revesid would be cool to be a raid bossfight and stuff, but ngl, after everything this arc, I don't really feel like he would do any real damage

[restive wedge]

He'd get separated and then we see Imu vs Usopp and by the time it's over he's already been offscreened

[ashen rose]

This arc just has no stakes tbh, any real threat posed by the HK got botched, Domi reversi is just irrelevant because you can kill them and they come back intact, and anything else is being resolved by the strawhats (by that I mean Sanji, Zoro, Chopper and Nami)

[dapper tree]

there were stakes

the stakes were just dealt with

[thick mango]

Yeah that's too much hindsight. These things all mattered at a time

[dapper tree]

once zoro, sanji, loki, and luffy got up there

The Hks and domi'ed giants were done for

[trim lily]

maybe it’s how fast they got dealt with that’s the problem

[dapper tree]

No one else could deal with them

[ashen rose]

Insane powercreep tbh

[dapper tree]

And that's fine

[warm sierra]

The turning back DR thing isnt even confirmed yet

[dapper tree]

It's not powercreep

[trim lily]

this gap has always existed but it’s just been continually widened

[ashen rose]

Dorry and brogy got their throats cut and they got revived

[dapper tree]

The Hks and domi'ed gianmts were never gonna be able to stand against those 4

[ashen rose]

That's not a good thing

[trim lily]

yeah i don’t like it either

[ashen rose]

Yes there is an explanation for these things being dealt with, but that doesn't exactly make them good

[warm sierra]

But its only them and the one chopper only hit slightly that got turned no one else so far unless Im mistaken

[ashen rose]

I wish there were more real consequences for the things they did instead of everything turning back to normal as soon as the strawhats got their shit together

[thick mango]

I didn't like death being the answer to Dr. But who knows maybe I'll like it more with more chapters still a decent bit left to go

[dapper tree]

ehhh it's fine, domi reversi was gonna have some dumb counter and really no one was actually strong enough to kill the domi'ed giants

until those 4 got there

[thick mango]

There were never gonna be serious sabaody level consequences again.imo

[ashen rose]

Didn't one of the giants got punched through the stomach by Franky and turned normal

[trim lily]

there doesn’t have to be serious consequences for the strawhats but there should be for everything elsewhere

we know nothing serious will ever happen to them and that’s fine, that’s why we can build stakes on the surroundings and other characters

[restive wedge]

The whole dive off the branch was pretty good

[hot cairn]

yeah, I don’t get why people think something like that would happen again

[small ember]

Would be nice but not sure where people were getting that from

[ashen rose]

That's not fine, what? Like, for the monster trip IG, the rest should have something that makes us go "holy shit something bad is gonna happen to them"

[thick mango]

A bunch of kids were in danger to the last moment there were and still are elbaf consequences being threatened. It wasn't completely out of the realm of possibility that kids get kidnapped. They could be rescued later

[small ember]

Regardless we got some really good story beats with the kids and their parents

[hot cairn]

nah, that was Jinbe who punched it in the stomach and it was a giant it was a dream creature

[trim lily]

to me stakes depend on believability

[warm sierra]

I dont even think Franky is where the DR giants are rn. You mean the UMA he and Jimbe took out?

[trim lily]

i know nothing major will ever happen to the strawhats, that’s the type of story this is and i accepted it

[ashen rose]

WE'RE FIGHTING THE CLOSEST THINGS TO GOD IN THE ONE PIECE WORLD

[trim lily]

even if oda tries to set it up i know it won’t happen

[small ember]

Wouldn’t say stakes = scale

[trim lily]

yes but obviously like usopp won’t just die here, one piece isn’t that kind of story and we’re not close to the end

[hot cairn]

yeah

[trim lily]

i don’t expect those kinds of stakes

[hot cairn]

Dolf is right

[small ember]

But in a sense they are raised since the scale of the conflict seems to be something demonic/spiritual and we learn more bout the world gov/history

[ashen rose]

Nah I know all of them will live, I'm talking about elbaph as a whole

[trim lily]

this is the problem when it comes to discussing stakes as each person has their own level of believability

some people were satisfied with the stakes here and were worried what could happen, some people aren’t and didn’t believe it for a second

[dapper tree]

the stakes were only there in the first place cause Luffy, zoro, sanji, and loki weren't around in the first place, otherwise none of those situations would have even occured

[trim lily]

the kids walking to the ships were definitely high stakes but it depends on if you care about them as characters and if you believe oda would let them get captured/killed

[ashen rose]

Which is why a lot of people wanted the other strawhats to deal with it instead of the monster trip and Loki, they wouldn't just power through everything, they would have to actually do something creative and force the best out of themselves to end or at least deescalate the situation

[dapper tree]

the other SHs didn't have the power or haxs

[trim lily]

but oda could simply give them it

they apparently were strong enough to take out killingham

[dapper tree]

Jinbei could have beat sommers or killingham but ran into gunko

Robin could have beat Gunko but ran into sommers

Bad matchups

[ashen rose]

And? Robin was able to fool sommers, have them do something about the very real threat

[dapper tree]

fool

key word

matchups matter

and the SHs drew bad ones

[ashen rose]

That's how shonens are, imagine using this same argument against Luffy vs crocodile for example

[dapper tree]

Gaben almost ended 2 of the 3

by himself

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/Startboii1/status/2035486457003975086

Startboii (COMMS OPEN) (@Startboii1)

Fun fact I made a version with Zoro lmaoooo

X · Mar 21, 2026, 10:39 PM

[ashen rose]

Yes they're weaker but thats literally how you train your haki

[trim lily]

hasn’t most of one piece been about working around tough matchups

[wet condor]

People will try to tell me this isn't true

But that's alright

I've had to defend Jinbei from disrespect for years

I was doing it 10 years ago

I can do it now

[trim lily]

luffy was a horrible matchup into magellan and had to figure out a workaround

[ashen rose]

Hi this is gabe

[dapper tree]

Jinbei is stronger than them but ran into the one with arrows, lol

[ashen rose]

EXACTLY, same with crocodile and most of the strawhats

Fuck I wanted something OTHER than just "have you tried using more Haki?" For battles

The other strawhats would have been perfect for that

They have either creative devil fruits or creative armaments

[dapper tree]

eh

[ashen rose]

Fuck powerscalling

[dapper tree]

I mean,. franky would just big laser

or now

big punch

[ashen rose]

If numbers were all it mattered than one piece wouldn't be where it is rn

[wraith mantle]

you a loki fan

[trim lily]

franky has a lot more tech he could use

[hot cairn]

I’ve never seen Jinbe disrespect until this arc

[wraith mantle]

aint that like your whole thing

[ashen rose]

And?

[ashen rose]

Nah, I like him for more than just "he's powerful"

[wet condor]

It was happening all the time back in WCI

[dapper tree]

he was disrespected last arc as box carrying man

[wraith mantle]

why do you like him

[ashen rose]

He looks cool :D

[hot cairn]

in WCI, why?

[wet condor]

I've said it before in here, people didn't want to believe that he could block and knock back Big Mom. They tried to downplay it because it was the best feat we'd seen someone have against a Yonko

[ashen rose]

Also his story with lola got me intrigued

[hot cairn]

ah right

[wet condor]

So I had to shut them up then

[wet condor]

This too

[wraith mantle]

real

[dapper tree]

Also like robin almost beat sommers too but like he whipped himself back up

[trim lily]

this arc jinbe was busy thinking

[dapper tree]

which was beans

but like

what ya gonna do

[trim lily]

would’ve been really cool to see him have a fight with killingham but a shame that was impossible

[hot cairn]

I see

[dapper tree]

jinbei would have low diffed killingham

[wet condor]

Then people tried to downplay his fight with Who's Who, as if Who's Who didn't have an entourage helping him

[trim lily]

could we not simply have a proper fight

[dapper tree]

Jinbei low diffed WW

[trim lily]

does everything have to be a low diff from one party

[dapper tree]

Jinbei was strongere than Zoro and Sanji until like near the end of wano

It's why he couldn't join

[ashen rose]

If being strong was all it took to make me a fan of something I would have been a S#anks fan or a Mih#wk fan or Z#ro fan

[hot cairn]

It would’ve been cool to see the other strawhats besides the monster trio try to save Elbaph alone

[dapper tree]

I mean

[hot cairn]

but Imu showed up so

[dapper tree]

They tried

[trim lily]

i really am feeling the same about imu as i did with the gorosei on egghead

feeling it more and more every chap

[wraith mantle]

just say it, or a rocks fan

[dapper tree]

That they are a bum?

[hot cairn]

not a fan?

[trim lily]

the gorosei all showing up took away from saturn’s individual menace and threat

imu showing up took away from the knights

[ashen rose]

Oda's getting old, he doesn't really want to make proper fights anymore, why do you think Usopp has been sidelined so much, or why a lot of the fights have been off screens?

[trim lily]

ok well i wouldn’t go that far lol

[prisma idol]

I will never forgive oda for shafting the HKs

And I like Imu

[trim lily]

surely they’ll get more this arc

[dapper tree]

saturn literally could not do it himself

[trim lily]

he was doing it himself quite well

oda could have simply made him stronger

[ashen rose]

Rocks actually had things going on for him other than aurafarming, his clashing ideologies with harald and his crew was amazing

[dapper tree]

LOL

Just up his powerlevel

[trim lily]

it sounds silly but it really is that shrimple

make him a raid boss for the island

[dapper tree]

Naw, saturn could not be kaido

[random hinge]

so who here likes one piece

[hot cairn]

ME

[prisma idol]

Nah

[ashen rose]

eM

[trim lily]

i HATE not loving one piece

[prisma idol]

I read real good series, like JJK and CSM

[wraith mantle]

do you?

[hot cairn]

have you fallen out of love with OP?

[random hinge]

i wonder

[ashen rose]

I need to get a job to get a drawing tablet dude, I want to ANIMATE LOKI DAMMIT

[trim lily]

i meant it as a joke but yeah i don’t like it as much as i used to

but i’ve got plenty of stuff to read so i don’t mind

[hot cairn]

making Saturn Kaido level would’ve been kinda crazy

[ashen rose]

I changed how I saw one piece after the timeskip and it helped me enjoy it a lot more, but yeah after wano it was kinda downhill, elbaph rekindled a lot of the things I liked about old one piece but it's getting difficult to actually defend oda these past few chapters

[hot cairn]

Wano and Egghead aren’t bad at all

[ashen rose]

Egghead no, wano, meh

[hot cairn]

and Elbaph hasnt ended yet

[dapper tree]

it was a terrible idea

[trim lily]

well we got loki now so what a world we live in

[prisma idol]

Lbad has been a Rollercoaster of "wow this ain't that bad" to "this sucks"

[hot cairn]

kinda yes

[ashen rose]

I don't know if I want it to end or not tbh, with how much oda is sidelining Usopp and skimming over fights I'm getting tired of it

[hot cairn]

that’s not the same

[trim lily]

heaven realm

all your dreams lay there

[dapper tree]

you can just say yes

[hot cairn]

LOL

[trim lily]

kaido but now he’s an ally

[hot cairn]

I wouldn’t say Elbaph is better than Wano or Egghead

[ashen rose]

[ashen rose]

It is

[hot cairn]

but I wouldn’t say it’s bad

[prisma idol]

For me it rn sits at a B

[ashen rose]

Better than wano that is

[prisma idol]

B for Bad

[trim lily]

i think overall i prefer elbaf to egghead

the highs of egghead are higher but the lows are worse

[hot cairn]

you can’t want it to end, you won’t get to see Loki for years

[urban lodge]

The poll separates Elbaf from God Valley so maybe we should too

[hot cairn]

sure

[ashen rose]

That fuckass panel of Luffy laughing and sanji smoking near vegapunks corpse

[dapper tree]

LOL

[hot cairn]

I agree

[hot cairn]

LOL

[ashen rose]

I can handle it, that's what fan works are for

[prisma idol]

I overall enjoyed Egghead a lot more than Elbaf, I havent really been enjoying it since Rocks showed up

[trim lily]

oh so now it’s alright to seperate on island and off island…

[urban lodge]

Vegapunk's body is still rotting on the Sunny

[trim lily]

kuma too

[dapper tree]

kuma died again

[prisma idol]

And the stuff I like gets thrashed fairly quickly in the arc

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sick-rot-rotting-eye-falling-off-gif-4108017

[urban lodge]

It's ok when the off island part was bad

[scarlet nacelle]

better than wano but worse than egghead (but this decision is less based off of a love of elbaf and more based off of a hate for wano)

[prisma idol]

Technically that is what they did in Enies

[hot cairn]

fair

[trim lily]

i’m torn on the rocks flashback since i really like the harald stuff and the rocks pirates but rocks himself and then the shakky and roger stuff drags it down so much

[ashen rose]

Seriously what the fuck is this

[trim lily]

moreso rocks than the shakky stuff

[prisma idol]

Yeah I looked most of the rocks pirates but rocks was....

[restive wedge]

Smokin that Vegapunk pack

[prisma idol]

Liked

[urban lodge]

At least we got Wang Zhi

[ashen rose]

Did oda think this was tough or something?

[hot cairn]

I don’t how to feel about Elbaph so far yet

I want to see what Oda does for the climax

[prisma idol]

I like Egghead more also because I had the long time theory of Emet coming in Clutch

[hot cairn]

But it’s like

[prisma idol]

And it happened

[hot cairn]

I’ve said this before

[urban lodge]

Listen, aura farming is important

[trim lily]

the elusive ancient haki that will just so happen to counter regeneration

we both got a w at the same time

[hot cairn]

But Elbaph feels both like if it’s going to end and that it’s just halfway through

Idk if that makes sense

[prisma idol]

And you doubted my goat the whole arc

[hot cairn]

peak moment

[ashen rose]

Elbaph is a great arc and I'd say the 4th best post ts

Loki reveal

THE FUCKING MURAL

Holy knights

THE MOTHERFUCKING MURAL

Shamrock

Rocks flashback

God valley

Loki flashback

That's it

[trim lily]

the back and forth was so funny

ending a chapter with emeth rising only to go down again

[ashen rose]

Honestly just the mural alone puts it above wano and even egghead in some aspects

[hot cairn]

nah

[ashen rose]

Actual, tangible lore, no veague bullshit

[restive wedge]

Mural Merchant I'm afraid

[ashen rose]

y'all just saying shit

[trim lily]

the mural is kind of the goat of vague bullshit

[ashen rose]

This is legit the best panel in one piece

I WILL fight this

[urban lodge]

It's up there

[trim lily]

i really do like what the mural tries to evoke though, trying to interpret the vague writings of a forgotten civilization

is it literal or symbolic

[ashen rose]

There's actual pictures and stuff for us to see and speculate

[ashen rose]

We KNOW what will happen in a lot of the stuff one the mural

[cloud ember]

#manga-theories message

[dense haven]

damn penners is a helper now

they grow up so fast

[trim lily]

we were really on the nose huh

[cloud ember]

Holy cow

[ashen rose]

Kind of a shame people here have the attention span of an average shonen fan and just forgot about it

[cloud ember]

what a great theory

[dense haven]

did you shorten your name because you needed to look polite for staff meeting?

[ashen rose]

Holy cow indeed

[scarlet nacelle]

i remember swearing up and down that acoc wasn't the answer to regen

boy was i wrong

[spice cairn]

PoL is.

[trim lily]

3.5/4 is pretty good

[prisma idol]

Now we await elemental haki

[trim lily]

im so ready

[spice cairn]

Are you by chance... the editor at One Piece...?

[urban lodge]

Weather haki

[spice cairn]

Blood Logia Haki blastass supreme

[cloud ember]

basically lol

[glacial bear]

Blood logia would be so cracked

[prisma idol]

I think i know my issue with Elbaf

[spice cairn]

Yeah Shiryu has it on his blade

[prisma idol]

I haven't come up with any funny bits to push besides the heaven realm tea party

[glacial bear]

That’s awesome

[spice cairn]

Why didnt he use it on Garp? He needed to recharge it with blood

[trim lily]

thats his break in case of emergency

[trim lily]

honestly i think the heaven realm has been a very solid bit

its gets better the more people place their faith in it

[formal wagon]

thats gravel logia actually

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shiryu-shiryu-one-piece-shiliew-shiliew-one-piece-gif-10445451326322656138

[tidal onyx]

We need the heaven realm it’s such a mystery it’s like we’re missing 1/4 of the arc

[formal wagon]

and glue logia

[urban lodge]

Urouge too, as always

[spice cairn]

Is he painting the town red?

[urban lodge]

But this time it was semi-plausible

[tidal onyx]

Yessss

[trim lily]

[tidal onyx]

Urouge and Rogers eggg are in the heaven realm

[spice cairn]

One Piece theory: Big Mom Tea Party in heaven gives Urouge the power boost

[trim lily]

oh true roger's egg is there too

[prisma idol]

Just thought of a new Attendees: road Poneglyph Kaido and Skeleton Big Mom

[restive wedge]

That damn egg...

[ashen rose]

He's taking his brush painting the world red

[urban lodge]

I'm convinced the egg doesn't mean anything and is just a part of the ship

[trim lily]

poneglyph kaido was taken too soon from this world

thats the most likely conclusion

[hot cairn]

haki always wins

[spice cairn]

Loki swallowed the Polyglith

[tidal onyx]

Trust me it means something 😭

[scarlet nacelle]

the worst power system OAT

[spice cairn]

Wait.

[dense rapids]

Oda was hyping WB like crazy 😭😭😭

[fallen meteor]

bro i was like 'which wacky theory is this going to be now'

[hot cairn]

means you’re not connecting with the arc as much