also-manga

[shrewd topaz]

[dense haven]

imu will dogwalk luffy next chapter

get ready

[long basin]

since Shanks said they may go get the one piece and only luffy has also 3 poneglyphs, will he face luffy or go against BB?

but then he already has three from kidd, my bad

[cosmic hamlet]

That would be too easy

[cosmic hamlet]

I think it will be royal rumble

[long basin]

maybe Shanks will steal it and hide it somewhere else

[balmy field]

how are you coming with ts lore

[golden jacinth]

Fishman island had no road poneglyphs 🤔

[radiant rose]

You been there?

[cosmic hamlet]

It did during roger era

[golden jacinth]

😭😭

[golden jacinth]

No

[cosmic hamlet]

Reread one piece then

[golden jacinth]

Roger took the poneglyph from big mom

And fmi was under wb

Bm had no way to get it

If it was there

[cosmic hamlet]

I suggest you re read oden flashback again

[golden jacinth]

You are the one who needs to re read

[cosmic hamlet]

Fishman island was not under whitebeard pirates during roger era

[golden jacinth]

Big mom also had no connection to fmi

[golden jacinth]

And this isnt confirmed

As far as i remember

[cosmic hamlet]

The 4 road poneglyphs roger got was from
Fmi, BM, Zou and wano

After that someone stole the road poneglyph from fmi and thats the missing 4th luffy and others are searching for

[golden jacinth]

🤔

Yeah ig it was in fmi they took it when they met with neptune 🤔

I dont remember wano havent read it in a long time

But idk about it being in fmi

[cosmic hamlet]

👆

[cosmic hamlet]

Aged well

😂

[golden jacinth]

😂😂

[cosmic hamlet]

Anyway

[golden jacinth]

😬

[radiant rose]

So this just turned out as a "you reread, no you reread"

[cosmic hamlet]

I only read/watched one piece once but it feels like i reread many times by being part of the community for years

[golden jacinth]

I forget most things

So i need to reread

[cosmic hamlet]

Then why are you so confident when you replied to me

[golden jacinth]

I rembered wrong

[safe cove]

https://x.com/i/status/2035084061287366973

mail 📨 (@mailboxxi_)

birthday boy! ^_^

X · Mar 20, 2026, 8:00 PM

[long basin]

you know it's true

[dense haven]

any usopp fans in chat

[cloud charm]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-true-get-this-man-i-guess-bro-black-panther-jonah-hill-gif-7232069788235364845

[honest garden]

!useless

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375207791857238109/1479741492175048704/Bumsopp.gif?ex=69afc728&is=69ae75a8&hm=04d555603a85edad71bdd9d146f88663afbdc83f0796e9b638075a75ec7432e3&

[prisma yacht]

!use?

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/1479984815221510286/858bb9c294615c07c379587bb8a8fdb53a51e678-1440x810.png?ex=69ae06c4&is=69acb544&hm=b042ece1bedab8af688ab6277ac177855eef909a2100e8adb2c943ff9968f519&

[high wolf]

!useless

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375207791857238109/1479741492175048704/Bumsopp.gif?ex=69afc728&is=69ae75a8&hm=04d555603a85edad71bdd9d146f88663afbdc83f0796e9b638075a75ec7432e3&

[prisma yacht]

no its already been countered

[high wolf]

Oh yeah

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[rich kettle]

i like your name

[runic dock]

I just pulled an 800-900 dollar boa from the new heroines pack ….

[prisma yacht]

omgg ferit hiii

[rich kettle]

no way its fronsen

[prisma yacht]

holy shittt

wsggg

[rich kettle]

how are u fronsen

[prisma yacht]

im doing okayy wbuu

[rich kettle]

meh

[prisma yacht]

where have u been

[rich kettle]

life's tough

[prisma yacht]

ah

its going to pass

[rich kettle]

but you neednt worry Ive been honing my skills even sharper than before

[prisma yacht]

😭

[rich kettle]

the man is the embodiment of ASMR

[prisma yacht]

have u been reading the recent chapters im so hyped to see what imu does dnowww

[rich kettle]

a bit late most of the time but yes

so they really gave killingham the buggy treatment huh

[prisma yacht]

yeahh lol

and also charlos's

that kick was insane

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-sai-and-leo-turns-charlos-into-a-pancake-one-piece-sai-and-leo-turns-charlos-into-pot-of-greed-one-piece-saint-charlos-of-the-celestial-dragons-one-piece-charlos-rip-bozo-one-piece-charlos-pot-of-greed-gif-1104286552917273463

[rich kettle]

people go on and on about how oda changed one piece's essence or how luffy isn't serious anymore

but i dunno man especially in the last few chapters I really feel the old one piece

[rich kettle]

concasser is just peak

[prisma yacht]

they stupid

[rich kettle]

they really need to go read arlong park again

luffy didnt change

[prisma yacht]

really loving the sh focus

[rich kettle]

my boy's perfect

[prisma yacht]

king

[rich kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-gif-7848322

[prisma yacht]

i do hope we see more from killy and sommers

[rich kettle]

sommers has been plenty ngl

[honest garden]

Sommers needs a win

[rich kettle]

they stopped killingham's regen but he should still be able to use his df powers

[honest garden]

Let him kill at least one child

[rich kettle]

man oda is still going strong

I don't know how he made me care about those kids and their parents in a couple of panels

his characterisation ability is insane

I really wanna glaze oda today for some reason

people have been roasting him too much recently

[prisma yacht]

Goda

[rose rune]

The fat one?

[graceful grove]

would've been better if a single reader thought any of them was gonna die at any point.

[mighty quarry]

I imagine his ability to make someone fall asleep has the same limitation of other person having superior haki
Like how Law couldn't shambles Kaido and BM

[rich kettle]

[mighty quarry]

Otherwise he should just cast sleep powder everytime everywhere

[rich kettle]

rodo really grew on me

[prisma yacht]

big brother

[rich kettle]

I don't think it is superior haki but rather after someone possesses a certain level of haki regardless of the opponent's haki level these weird ass effect paramecias are useless

cause if not then sugar's fruit would still be relevant in a matchup like garp vs roger

imo starting from the intermediate tier it's irrelevant

[mighty quarry]

Could be

Did Momonga completely resist Boa hax ability?

Or partly

[rich kettle]

when akainu said "omae wa tada no hi washi wa hi o yakiskusu maguma ja" it really hit home

[rich kettle]

he had to disrupt his focus with pain so Id say partly

like roger shouldn't be able to just eat sugar's fruit and turn say kizaru to a toy

[mighty quarry]

I see what you mean

[potent pier]

This may be an earlier design for Gunko

[rich kettle]

looks a lot like gunko and not even close to any other character so yeah

[prisma yacht]

Early gunko

When she was still with brook

[potent pier]

On Twitter/x a quote tweet was "delulu senses activate"

People said the same thing when sketches of knight shanks was brought up

And we now see Shamrock

[rich kettle]

looks like oda had this idea of brook having a daughter or sth but postponed it at the time

apparently he was a warchief in his kingdom

we never saw his eyes too actually

[potent pier]

Princess Shuri/Gunko is not Brook's daughter though

In fact, he was around 10\11 when She was born

[lilac quartz]

prolly someone he took her off

[rich kettle]

so fatal damage actually works against domi reversi

but not against the 2nd contract

but it did work against harald

i really hate this logia 2.0 thing ngl

[mighty quarry]

I hate domi reversi in general

Worse plot than amnesia

[dense haven]

brook is a deadbeat 🥀

[dense haven]

> be oda
> logia hax
> suddenly 99% of the verse cant deal with them
> haki.jpg
> 10 years later
> abyss/demon/dr hax
> suddenly 99% of the verse cant deal with them

[mighty quarry]

I don't hate the Abyss contracts tho because there at least the person has to be pre-conditioned/coerced/coaxed to take part in the contract before getting mind controlled

Domi reversi is just snapping a finger

And its mass scale

And has no foreseeable drawbacks

Like wut

[warm fossil]

i mean i imagine its not that simple and we'll get an explanation

although there are already some issues with it

like from all we've seen of it rocks should've been able to demolish the holy knights after garp and roger beat him

[lofty fern]

Watching was more in the sense of he's been looking at Harald's exploits and deeds over time. You forget Harald was working for the WG for decades by that point. And we actually saw points where Imu was watching him to see what he would do. Like when he said he would serve the WG even to the point of being a slave. That was several years before he actually became a knight. That's what he meant by watching him, not that he could see through his eyes.

[lofty fern]

I also think that people don't understand that it's not really mind control, even Harald says as much. It's more like it brings your darkest parts to light. You're still yourself just darker, and even that only happens when you try to resist. Many just want the power and are fine doing what small commands Imu has for them.

Imu doesn't seem to call for much most of the time

[mighty quarry]

Yes and that makes Abyss more nuanced and a better written ability

[lofty fern]

I think it is to simply make Imu a very strong opponent that he's capable of broken abiliites like DR

[grand flower]

Imu did stab him prior

[lofty fern]

People are already saying that we're a "emperor level crew" so why should we struggle? Well you need to have strong enemies to rise to the occasion

It's not that the SHs need to be weak, its that we should have stronger villains to challenge them

Being an emperor isn't some kind of end of the road, it should be a stepping stone

[mighty quarry]

The answer clearly is baki.jpg

[leaden rivet]

I’m sooooo 50/50 on it

Because while I’m glad Imu’s supremacy isn’t simply just him having super strong haki

I really hate regeneration and mind control as abilities in themselves.

[mighty quarry]

Mind control ability is bad when it's too convenient to use and write it

It can be done in less contrived ways

[dense haven]

do you trust oda to do it

[leaden rivet]

I’m going to wait on my overall judgement of it, because there may be reasonable limitations

But if it can work on Rocks probably the highest tier of character in this series then there may not be much limitations

[dense haven]

imu is just that strong

[mighty quarry]

And it can work on an island full of giants

Enmasse

[leaden rivet]

Regen and mind control are already 2 bad abilities on their own, mixing them together is especially egregious

[warm fossil]

i mean strength is certainly not the problem

[dense haven]

I mean 1 rocks is equal to 1452 giants

[warm fossil]

imu is very clearly top 1 by a mile

if there are limits it has to do with the mental state of the person you're transforming probably

would've been cool if it was actually using the rules of reversi but unfortunately we're not doing that

[sturdy steeple]

There’s a reason WG doesn’t fuck with emperors.

[leaden rivet]

Maybe it’s something like you have to be completely pure of heart lol

[warm fossil]

that would be very stupid i can't lie

i was more thinking you have to be mentally unstable during the moment

[mighty quarry]

Would DR work on artificial beings like Stussy, Seraphim or Cyborgs

[muted hedge]

craziest thing is that this isn't even the main body of Imu, this is just Imu possessing Gunko

[dense haven]

true

this is only 1% of imus power

[muted hedge]

probably lol

[warm fossil]

i mean that's the only reason everyone isn't about to just die here

[muted hedge]

for sure, it's just crazy to think that they probably have so much more

[mighty quarry]

I bet the main body is hotter

[warm fossil]

nah i don't think that's really the point

i don't think this version of imu is much weaker if at all

[leaden rivet]

What if it was the reverse and Imu is only that powerful if he has a host lol

[warm fossil]

its just that gunko's about to kick imu out of her body to save us

[leaden rivet]

Especially if he acts almost as a shadow

[muted hedge]

yeah there's a lot of routes which Imu's powers could go down

[muted hedge]

what do you think they'll look like?

[mighty quarry]

Resiting a your mom joke here

[muted hedge]

i'm starting to believe more and more that they're male

though i was a believer that they'd be a evil queen type at first

[warm fossil]

i mean we basically know its a guy based on the japanese pronouns

[muted hedge]

yeah

[warm fossil]

(ignoring the fact that oda would never let a girl be the final villain of one piece)

[leaden rivet]

I don’t think there’s any real reason to think it’s a girl

Other than subverting expectations

[muted hedge]

i thought so mostly due to their stature but knowing Oda it's nothing to go off of

[mighty quarry]

It could be an alternate way to explain their immortality other than immortal surgery

Like Imu ability has allowed them to body swap and skip through the centuries but each host gets weaker over time, so they need to do it periodically

Could also explain why and what they've been grooming Gunko for since the start

[soft tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[leaden rivet]

Yep I thought so originally, this image appears as if it’s a woman in a black veil, but apparently the way the Japanese works they refer to them in a way that only men are referred to

[muted hedge]

yeah, i can't wait for it to be properly revealed

[rich hornet]

There are specific words for men/women celestials and Imu uses the male title. Kind of like count/countess in English

It all translates to saint in English so we lose that detail

[cosmic hamlet]

A womens jealousy caused all this?

[mighty quarry]

Would make sense

[leaden rivet]

A man’s jealousy more like

I think it’s likely Lily spurned him on some way in the past

[warm fossil]

genuinely everything would be better than a love triangle being the cause of the void century

[mighty quarry]

It's one part but not all of it surely

You wouldn't go to the lengths of allying with 20 kingdoms for that

And erasing history

[dense haven]

oda would never make a whole ass war over goon

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/vinsmoke-yonji-yonji-gif-21318396

[leaden rivet]

People said the same about god valley

Yet the entire world economy halted because a single women, and multiple legendary pirates came to save a single women from captivity

[mighty quarry]

God Valley wasn't a war

It was a limited military excursion

[warm fossil]

and were right

[rose rune]

Dorry and brogy's new bounties are due to shakky inflation

[dense haven]

do not google shakky inflation

[warm fossil]

but also god valley is so much less important than the void century its not even funny

[leaden rivet]

They were not…other people had other reasons but most of the reason most people were there was because of Shakky

[warm fossil]

what

mate i'm saying they were right in saying it would be ass

[leaden rivet]

All of these things happening because a woman isn’t strange at all

[warm fossil]

🥀

[leaden rivet]

The marineford war happened because a single man. Enies lobby incident because a single woman.

Imu clearly holds her in high regard

Despite the betrayal

[mighty quarry]

No but then the additional steps Imu went to erase the memory of god valley wasn't just a woman, right

Same with void century

[warm fossil]

you can see how "we need to save our friend (or our brother\son in the case of marineford)" is infinitely more compelling than "boo hoo this girl doesn't want to be my wife lets end the world" right

[leaden rivet]

I can, but it can also be more complicated than that

Doesn’t need to be as simple as Imu getting rejected,

There are probably other factors to play with the rejection being the main thing or maybe not

[cold steppe]

I think it will be simple. The kingdom was powerful and man (imu and co) wanted that power

[warm fossil]

if its the main thing we're truly cooked

[warm fossil]

i do hope its more complicated than that

[leaden rivet]

The shakky thing started off as a bunch of horny men angry that their eye candy got taken away

Then we quickly see a lot of them truly were friends with her, and Rocks came because he feared for his family

[warm fossil]

not really

[leaden rivet]

Then it gets even deeper with what’s underneath gods valley and the davey thing

[lofty fern]

I guess that varies. People like what they like, though I do notic some bias based on who has the ablities

[warm fossil]

only roger came for shakky and even then not really

[remote sequoia]

hey guyss!

[cosmic hamlet]

What is the discussion about?

[mighty quarry]

Imagine if sun god and war god fought because of a woman

[warm fossil]

like rocks pulled up for a real reason, garp pulled up to fight roger, wg was already there and imu was there to cook rocks

[leaden rivet]

Roger and his crew came for shakky and a sizeable amount of rocks crew also came for Shakky, the celestial dragons there were playing a game for Shakky

[lofty fern]

Roger was definitely not the only one who came for shakky

[warm fossil]

from the main players, he was

[lofty fern]

WB and most of the Rocks pirates were also there for shakky

Most of the pirates were

[mighty quarry]

Plausible reasons for the war 800y ago

[cosmic hamlet]

Is it not for the ancient technology?

[dense haven]

no its women

[mighty quarry]

History repeats itself

[lofty fern]

I know we want to in retrospect, somehow decrease Shakky's value. But the WORLD'S ECONOMY went to a standstill for this woman. People definitely came for her.

[leaden rivet]

It’s always about a woman

Didn’t your parents teach you this

[warm fossil]

sure, the important people were not really there for her tho

i don't care if 40 billlion people came to save shakky as long as the main characters of the arc were not there for her

[lofty fern]

Most of them were. Also, you want to only pick out the important people as you see them. Everyone is important to their own part in the story

[warm fossil]

that's just not how stories work lol

[leaden rivet]

Roger, his crew and white beard and most of the rocks pirates are not important people

[warm fossil]

the main players of the arc were rocks, imu, and then to a lesser extent roger and garp

[wet condor]

Some people had their minds on other things but they probably would've came even if the fruits and other things weren't there

[warm fossil]

they're importnat figures when considering the entirety of the story but they're not the main players on god valley

[wet condor]

Roger and company basically wanted to save her. Whitebeard was straight-up there just to rescue her

[lofty fern]

I think trying to diminish Shakky's importance just because you don't like it, is foolhardy to say the least

[leaden rivet]

They absolutely are

[wet condor]

Kaido and Big Mom had other objectives and we don't really know their opinions, but I wouldn't be all that surprised if they wanted to rescue her

[warm fossil]

like you could remove literally everyone else from the arc and the main events would still play out around the same way with these characters

[wet condor]

Xebec is principally concerned with saving his family, but I think would've saved Shakky if she was kidnapped regardless if his family was there or not

[warm fossil]

sure but she could've not been there and he would've still came

[leaden rivet]

I feel so also.

[warm fossil]

same for garp, same for imu

same for garlic too if you want to count him as relevant

[lofty fern]

There would have been no way he could have convinced the others to come

[warm fossil]

the treasure?

the fruits?

cooking the wg?

obviously he could lol

[lofty fern]

Garp came because Roger came. Roger only came because of Shakky. Imu was just there because Davy, so yes he didn't care about Shakky

Garling was only there because of Shakky

[warm fossil]

garlic was there for the game, even if he only cared about getting shakky within the game

he would've played anyway

he's the champion

[lofty fern]

The biggest treasure was Shakky above all else

[warm fossil]

sure, that doesn't change what i said

and with roger, i would like to believe that he's a good enough person to have gone to the island anyway to save the people of the island, although that's debatable

[lofty fern]

He was specifically there for shakky because she was the prize he wanted. He didn't care about the title or random treasure. He specifically says that he ordered her for this

[wet condor]

Very debatable lol

[mighty quarry]

Very

[warm fossil]

it doesn't matter because there's no way he's missing this event, he's the no.1 guy in these things and none of them have ever featured shakky

clearly he attends them lol

[lofty fern]

I think you just don't like the fact that men can fall so easily for a woman and do so much for her, but that's just how life works 🤷

[wet condor]

Calling him garlic tho lol

[warm fossil]

(i mean its not nobody goes to war over women)

[lofty fern]

I think you're presuming a lot of things rather than taking what they said at face value

[warm fossil]

i mean those things are very obviously true

like you can't be the goat of something having never attended said thing lol

[mighty quarry]

Regardless if Shakky started GV or Lily started Void century

The point is that they are not the entire reason of why things happened there the way they did

[spice cairn]

Ok so what if I was the treasure?

What then?

[warm fossil]

i'd save yyou

[spice cairn]

Thank god

[warm fossil]

(you're cooked)

[storm anvil]

would you still hate me if i was the one piece

[warm fossil]

yes

[lofty fern]

In the end of GV, people shifted to other things, but Oda specifically states that Shakky was the impetus that got the whole thing rolling. You can not like it, but that's how it was.

[dense haven]

goon valley amirite

[warm fossil]

again, i agree that's the no.1 reason most people were there, just that most of them would've attended anyway for the other reasons, and that the most important people were not there for her

[wet condor]

I think I agree with adood lol

[spice cairn]

Garp was there to set things right

To wipe evil off the face of the earth

[warm fossil]

(he was there to see his boyfriend roger)

[leaden rivet]

Garp was there for Roger who wouldn’t be there without Shakky

[spice cairn]

True

[leaden rivet]

So remove those 2

[spice cairn]

Garp and Roger 100% were a thing

[wet condor]

That is true

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-garp-monkey-d-garp-young-garp-garp-one-piece-gif-3491173103190772042

[spice cairn]

Out of all people to take care of his son

It was him

[royal orchid]

man was thinking of Roger while talking

[wet condor]

Roger doesn't show up, then Garp doesn't

[leaden rivet]

Now try to have god valley without Garp and Roger

[spice cairn]

Itll suck

Straight up

[warm fossil]

garp doesn't show up without roger but roger definitely shows up without shakky

[spice cairn]

Rocks isnt enough to carry GV as we've seen.

[lofty fern]

Roger would not have come without Shakky

[warm fossil]

i know

[icy wolf]

wdym

[leaden rivet]

Why would Roger have come without Shakky

[wet condor]

What reason would he have to pull up?

[icy wolf]

rocks was the star of the show

[warm fossil]

the treasure, the fruit and (maybe) saving an entire nation worth of people

[spice cairn]

That was Harald and Loki

[leaden rivet]

Roger’s entire stated reason there is for Shakky

[spice cairn]

Rocks was just the chuddy side quest

[icy wolf]

cap

[warm fossil]

also maybe to fight rocks for all of it

plenty of reasons to come

[icy wolf]

rocks took the world by storm

[leaden rivet]

saving an entire nation of people

Same dude who threw a tantrum and destroyed an entire nations army cause they made fun of his friend

[wet condor]

You're saying definitely like Roger also couldn't've just minded his own business lol

[mighty quarry]

The only other fitting reason Roger would have come is to stop Rocks and crew from getting more treasure and DFs

Or settle his score

[icy wolf]

rocks first chapter was the best debut for a character i've ever seen

[warm fossil]

i mean its the event of the century

[icy wolf]

he was instantly so likable

[lofty fern]

Why would he leave the grand line and the new world to go clear across to the west blue for simply that? He could get that in the grand line. He came there for Shakky and even states it proudly

[leaden rivet]

Adood really just wants to diminish Shakky’s importance

[leaden rivet]

Because Shakky is there

[spice cairn]

Well yeag

Glorisia exists

[warm fossil]

i do but i'm also correct

[spice cairn]

Who was the better Kuja

[lofty fern]

It was only the event of the century because Shakky was there

[warm fossil]

that's just not true

[spice cairn]

Shakky was more than just a friend to rocks. She was an entire economic advantage

Losing shakky fucks up his gains

[warm fossil]

because the wg will be there, rocks will be there, its an insane treasure, and the fruits are legendary

[spice cairn]

So there's also that.

[leaden rivet]

Ok so no Roger, no Garp. Most of the rocks pirates are there for Shakky. Most of the motivation for the CDs there are for Shakky. It’s just a bit silly to say things turn out the same without her.

[warm fossil]

like bro's a pirate

obviously he's showing up

[spice cairn]

Big Mom was there for the fruits absolutely

Idt it was for Shakky

[lofty fern]

What else makes is special? Treasure? Plenty of that all over the place? The native hunting competition? They do that every 3 years anyway and there already had been rumors that they did such a thing. So what makes this one different than any other? Shakky. She's what draws all these pirates there, who wouldn't have bothered before.

[spice cairn]

But idk, if you think every single pirate on his crew was like him and cared about people unironically without any selfish desires involved then go ahead

[warm fossil]

if nothing else, rocks

[wet condor]

It's the "event of the century" principally because all of the Sea Kings pulled up in one spot and it was a giant free for all. That's really why

[warm fossil]

but also we have no reason to belive anyone knew these things existed before this one

[wet condor]

Shakky is one of the reasons, among others, why all of those guys pulled up

[warm fossil]

of course

but she's not the reason rocks was there, not the reason imu was there, not the reason garp was there. that's 3/4 of the main players

and i feel like saying roger would just not show up is a huge stretch

[lofty fern]

They litereally said the only reason others went when they heard Rocks was going, was to beat him to get to Shakky. Most pirates don't want to tangle with the WG, we see that even today. They don't attack CDs who travel for their treasure willy nilly for just that reason. They chanced it this time because of Shakky, not just plain treasure

[warm fossil]

i mean we know what roger is like

he's ultra hyped to fight strong people

he'd go to fight rocks for mad treasure lol

[lofty fern]

Garp again is out because of Roger

[lofty fern]

Sure, but he came THIS time for Shakky

[warm fossil]

yes as i said it was the no.1 reason to show

but that's not an argument against him not showing up

[lofty fern]

He didn't even know Rocks would be there until he got there

[warm fossil]

because i genuinely think if you believe he wouldn't show up otherwise you're lying to yourself

[lofty fern]

I think you're lying to yourself because you have this weird bias against Shakky

[warm fossil]

i don't care about shakky

[wet condor]

I can just as easily see Roger staying home lol

[thin quest]

GV is the sum of its parts and not because of any one thing in particular, y'all arguing over nothing

[spice cairn]

I mean didn't Ginny do a broadcast to entice other parties to come in to wreck havoc

You also got to factor that in and not just Shakky

[warm fossil]

brother he's portrayed like luffy do you genuinely think that lol

[leaden rivet]

There’s a lot of maybe could’ve and would’ve in your argument Adood. Roger is not definitely coming without Shakky

[warm fossil]

sure, he's not 100% coming. but i believe it fullheartedly

[spice cairn]

Roger absolutely would come the moment he hear of Rocks going in

[lofty fern]

She revealed where Shakky was, that's how they knew she was there. They couldn't find her for a year

[warm fossil]

there's no way he's missing this

[spice cairn]

He has a fighting itch

[wet condor]

Very much so yes. I'm sure there are things that Roger heard about and he didn't pursue them lol

Did Roger's crew even have any fruit users?

[lofty fern]

Again, he didn't know Rocks would be there until he got there

[deep chasm]

YES

[leaden rivet]

Because that’s what you really want to believe

[deep chasm]

wrong use of caps

yes*

[wet condor]

I wouldn't be surprised if Roger's crew had a no fruit users rule

[spice cairn]

Its also including the fruits tbf

[wet condor]

And if that's true, then the incentive going for the fruits decreases lol

[deep chasm]

Its not like luffy would be 100% going either. tell luffy theres a fight between koby BB some wg/marines and idk KIdd and theres no guarantee hes cutting into his current itinerary to go there

[lofty fern]

Roger is not the exact same as Luffy. Roger very obviously has a libido

[warm fossil]

"koby" is crazy

[deep chasm]

closest thing to garp for him

[warm fossil]

not remotely close

[deep chasm]

who else oyu want to be there

[spice cairn]

Anyways work time

Oops

[deep chasm]

no one is remotely close

[spice cairn]

Replied

But anyways work time

[deep chasm]

you can pick the people, hes not going unless shanks is there or someone needs his help

[lofty fern]

Yes, but it was Shakky that drew them. Ginny's transmission was how they knew where she was. Even Garp knew that.

[warm fossil]

idk i feel like it'd be more fair to say like kaido and big mom back when he wanted to beat them

[spice cairn]

Save the rest of shakky for me specifically

[deep chasm]

Not really, those are like people on his main itinerary to defeat

roger is going about his business here, he just has rivals that he comes across sometimes

[warm fossil]

and hes' seen as very dissapointed any time someone who isn't them comes to fight him

[deep chasm]

Hes seen as disappointed when he has weak opponents. It doesnt change that it snot the same as luffy with the yonko

[warm fossil]

sure but he's also hyped when like wb shows up

[deep chasm]

Roger with those people is just him alongside people he comes across every once in a while and are a good fight. Theyre not people hes got first on his list as what he needs to complete

[warm fossil]

and when oden shows up

[deep chasm]

yea what about it?

its just not the same regardless lol

[warm fossil]

also this is not the roger who's set his sights on the last island yet, did he even have any business to be about

[deep chasm]

Tell luffy theres some people who are good challenges for him fighting somewhere, hes not stopping what hes doing to head there

[warm fossil]

like what is he doing that's better than plundering from god valley

[deep chasm]

Whatever he was doing

[lofty fern]

So much pent up Shakky withdrawal energy....for a whole year

[deep chasm]

you can assume roger at that point isnt just sitting around at islands doing absolutely nothing

and it doesnt have to seem more important to you

[warm fossil]

i mean we kinda see that when he's on pirate island lol

[deep chasm]

but if roger is like luffy, hes sticking to what hes doing

[warm fossil]

man oda did rayleigh nasty

[leaden rivet]

Older Rayleigh for some reason is so much cooler and better looking than younger Rayleigh

[dense haven]

gilf hunter illya

[lofty fern]

Then again, he saw the one piece very easily in those days considering what Oda just reavelaed about women in OP who wear tiny skirts

[wet condor]

Old Garling is cooler than young Garling

[dense haven]

is he

[wet condor]

Yuh

[sturdy steeple]

I feel like most characters get cooler with age in OP

lol

[wet condor]

They do

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-whitebeard-one-piece-fan-letter-gif-1311828390200335146

it's not ridiculous to say that

[sturdy steeple]

Unless you have a bad future timeline

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/curious-very-curious-magnifying-glass-looking-peeking-gif-3027926178787907205

[sturdy steeple]

That applies to some

[royal orchid]

stussy

[deep chasm]

I mean i think considering the position of an elder

[royal orchid]

but like, minority

[sturdy steeple]

Stussy exists in two forms

[deep chasm]

I think it is intentional that old garling is cooler and stronger than young garling

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-stussy-one-piece-succubus-stussy-one-piece-vampire-stussy-one-piece-anime-one-piece-gif-13106308006122090703

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[sturdy steeple]

What’s that

[dense rapids]

Gunko draft

From 06

Seems like Oda plan to introduce her in thriller bark but changed his mind

[dense haven]

goda fr

[sturdy steeple]

That’s cool

[dense rapids]

Confirms that she didn’t come from out of nowhere

Been in the works since 2006

[lofty fern]

I don't care for either Garling

[royal orchid]

-1 to the oda is a hack counter

[dense haven]

I mean just because oda had a design saved doesn't mean he had the entire character

[lofty fern]

Is this your theory or something that was actually stated?

[dense rapids]

Wdym she’s literally under the Brook sketches

[lofty fern]

Yeah, but is this stated to be early gunko or is it just one of the thriller bark monsters?

[prisma yacht]

Its a theory

[dense rapids]

All of those characters appeared except her

[prisma yacht]

But the design is similar to gunko's

[lofty fern]

So its a theory

[prisma yacht]

So it makes sense

[dense haven]

its a thriller bark sketch ofc brook is gonna be there lol

[deep chasm]

chances of gunko for strawhat are unlikely but never 0

[lofty fern]

Buggy just uses "confirmed" so loosely

[dense rapids]

You’re did not understand a word I said

[royal orchid]

where are you getting these from anyway

[dense haven]

a lot of zombies in tb had bandages too

[dense rapids]

Laugh Tale

Oda was asked to draw 4 future enemies facing away from the audience in 2004

[lofty fern]

Oda plans, but we've also seen that he changes those plans over the years. I don't think he had gunko since 2006, but he probably drew inspiration from a past drawing that didn't make it in at the time.

[dense haven]

oda planned you'd say that

you fell right into his trap

[sturdy steeple]

I feel like that’s just Victoria Cindry

But perhaps there was some inspiration

[dense haven]

her name is victoria?

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-gif-18931687

[dense haven]

kids childhood friend

[deep chasm]

lame ass enemies

[dense rapids]

Buggy og crew

[lofty fern]

I was listening to Morj the other day, someone brought up a good funny point. That what Imu did with DR is actually a slightly more insidious verision of what Usopp and Tama did together by taking over the gifters minds and controlling them into working for their side.
Tama is really just the walmart Imu 😆

[mighty quarry]

Still only works on Zoans, and still have to manually feed them one at a time

[dense rapids]

Watch OP Special: Ocean’s Navel when you guys have time

[lofty fern]

That's why I said the walmart version. However the idea of forcing others to fight for you and controlling them is the same

[dense rapids]

It’s like 30 mins but it feels like a parody of Davy Jones

[mighty quarry]

Yes

Doesn't feel as egregious as DR

[dark nymph]

guys, no break

[distant vine]

But Tama did it first

Imu's the ripoff...

[dark nymph]

op is finally weekly

[mighty quarry]

Also it wears off on its own or not?

[lofty fern]

The bigger badder version 👁️👁️

[distant vine]

Im looking forward to the Sunday chapter

[lofty fern]

Well DR kinda seems to as well. It only lasts for as long as the minion lasts. Once they finally die by some mortal blow its gone

[dense rapids]

He was also voiced by the VA who voices Blackbeard before Blackbeard was put into the series

[lofty fern]

And Tama's power can be renewed as many times as she wants.

[distant vine]

Did I miss a vote?

[lofty fern]

Have you voted for Law?

[distant vine]

Yes

Ok I didnt miss

But I accidentally did another

So in the spirit of fairness I wont vote tomorrow

[spice cairn]

Finally

[lofty fern]

Have you voted for his sister?

[distant vine]

No

Thats a good idea

[lofty fern]

I need all the trafalgars covered

[distant vine]

If this was a good fandom we would get Lammy in Top 100

So Oda could draw her and Law together

[dark nymph]

who

[distant vine]

Trafalgar D. Water Lammy

She's Law's sister

[dense rapids]

Why have I never seen this color spread color walk has a lot of gems

[lofty fern]

I constantly do fiction of Law and Lami

Make sure magnolia is voted for

[glacial bear]

LETS GO

I hope you get a god pack

[glacial bear]

Buggy’s new ultimate as they newest character for One Piece: Fighting Path https://fixupx.com/opfpnews/status/2035318865928798694?s=61

ONE PIECE Fighting Path (@opfpNews)

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FixupX · Mar 21, 2026, 11:33 AM

[dense rapids]

Teaser for final war

We’ve literally seen buggy do nothing in that appearance

[fossil venture]

nah she got one tapped by a fraud

[grand flower]

Is this chimney

[leaden rivet]

As bad as Shakky is, She’s still better than Gloriosa

[lofty fern]

Exactly.
Justice for Manolia

[leaden rivet]

There’s levels to this

[lofty fern]

🌺

[leaden rivet]

Damsel in distress vs worthless simp the competition of a life time

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-shakky-shakky-one-piece-shakuyaku-shakuyaku-one-piece-gif-5185197243883976799

[mighty quarry]

Only damsels can be put in distress

I rest my case

[leaden rivet]

It’s a bit rude of us to criticize damsels when they’re in distress

[lofty fern]

Momo would disagree

[prisma yacht]

I have a silver momo card btw

[iron oriole]

Golden Trinity > Silver Momo

[urban lodge]

The botting is still going

From 4 million to 17 million in less than 48 hours

[sturdy steeple]

Hell no

[muted hedge]

lol

[graceful belfry]

Lmao

That’s crazy

[dapper tree]

12 million Jack votes

[warm fossil]

really want to know who they're botting for

[iron oriole]

Gaimon

[warm fossil]

that would be one of the least funny options

[graceful belfry]

Some character they’re attracted to

[iron oriole]

You don't understand funnies

[warm fossil]

I think the funniest possibility is botting for like sanjis mom or someone in that vain that's truly unremarkable in every way

[graceful belfry]

Ntm on Sora

[dapper tree]

Jack votes please

[warm fossil]

ai ahh name

[graceful belfry]

Lmao

[warm fossil]

gotta admit that would also be extremely funny

but you just know this is for nami/zoro/sanji and it's lame as hell

[graceful belfry]

Characters who don’t even need to be botted

[royal orchid]

https://x.com/i/status/2035046749153161386

Franck Sabatier (@franck_sabatier)

No way he'll look like that even IF he gonna exist but here we go with my own version of Chopper the Forest God

X · Mar 20, 2026, 5:32 PM

[graceful belfry]

That’s cool

[royal orchid]

they're making forest god chopper fanart already

[dapper tree]

Jack top 10

Let's go

[muted hedge]

what will the model name be?

[dapper tree]

Human human model insert forest god name

[muted hedge]

are there any names out there which would fit?

i'm thinking of the mermaid quintuplets which had one of them named Nika already

[warm fossil]

I mean it just doesn't make any sense, like I know we haven't seen choppers full Zoan form but there's absolutely no way you could argue he never once tried transforming entirely and seeing what he looks like

unless the forest god fruit for some unclear reason just looks like a completely normal human

[muted hedge]

i'm assuming that the forest god stage to his fruit assuming it is what it is, will be related to the eventual awakening of it similairly to how Luffy awakened the rubber fruit and it revealed itself as the sun god Nika

another case of this will probably be Blackbeard with the darkness fruit

[warm fossil]

you can't make the same argument as Luffy because Luffy didn't know he was a Zoan

there was no reason to try a full transformation

but chopper is already a Zoan, he knows what his Zoan form looks like

and it's a normal ass human

[muted hedge]

true, maybe it's something to do with Oda's answer on that the user limits the fruit based on how they're using it

like maybe Chopper doesn't think it can be more and there for it doesn't become more, as he has limited his own mind into thinking it's only the rumble balls which control it

[mighty quarry]

I can believe he just didn't think of it

[warm fossil]

come on man

[mighty quarry]

He's More preoccupied with medical stuff and discovering new medicine than new DF forms

[warm fossil]

no you can't

he didn't think of using his Zoan fruit to transform into the thing his fruit transforms someone into

[muted hedge]

maybe he thought that the extent of it was already given, as he is a walking, talking humanoid reindeer creature

[warm fossil]

an ultra basic understanding of what a Zoan is would let him know that's not how it works

[muted hedge]

i guess

[wraith mantle]

My queen

[stone terrace]

Bottom 3 haircut

[stone terrace]

Well...

[brittle basin]

I must vote

[brittle basin]

Human Human model: Princess Mononoke

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-mononoke-deer-god-gif-14647359

[dapper tree]

Peak

Chopper upscale incoming

He can cure anything

He does negative damage to heal

[stone terrace]

If hes gonna have forest voodoo fine but id prefer if itd not have any healing powers

Would undermine him a bit

[brittle basin]

if this ends up being true we have to reevaluate the 2nd paragraph in the elbaf mural right?

since so many thought it was maybe imu

[dapper tree]

He cures all diseases via df

[lofty fern]

I've thought Imu was the Earth god

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/gan-fall-one-piece-skypiea-sky-island-armor-gif-11961373470798744567

[lofty fern]

Ame-no-kaku: the messenger of the sun god...ess (well it can't be perfect )

[urban lodge]

Brook will be the secret human human fruit model: hades

[prisma yacht]

[pure scaffold]

#also-manga I have a question

[cosmic hamlet]

Vote reset

[pure scaffold]

Which of y'all were into Weevil again?

[cosmic hamlet]

Whom should i vote

[prisma yacht]

Wdym into weevil 😳

[pure scaffold]

Like a fan, a glazer

Whichever works

[urban lodge]

Silver Gunko today

[prisma yacht]

Pasta

[pure scaffold]

K, ty

[prisma yacht]

Don't k me 😔

[pure scaffold]

@dapper tree I have a question about Weevil

[urban lodge]

And Mailbox

[pure scaffold]

Peam, ty

I'll ask him when I see him

[cosmic hamlet]

Same

[urban lodge]

Nice, thank you for your contribution

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/spring-flowers-hello-spring-first-day-of-spring-flowers-spring-gif-5625782242660239973

[dapper tree]

Ask me

[sly belfry]

what does weevil do

[dapper tree]

He will kill magallen and doffy

[pure scaffold]

Could Strussy (clone) fall in love with Weevil?

[cloud ember]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-weevil-weevil-one-piece-edward-weevil-mustache-gif-13865147695371852757

[pure scaffold]

Or idk, would it be more like a bickering sibling relationship

[dapper tree]

No

No one could

[pure scaffold]

Mailbox likes him

[dapper tree]

Likes not loves

[pure scaffold]

Fair nuff

Guess the big guy is dying alone

That's sad

Would be lowk nice seeing him becoming a bigger pirate someday with his own crew/family

Taking after his "father" n all

[dapper tree]

He sill hang out with the Warlords

[brittle basin]

......come again?

Magellan will not die

[dapper tree]

He will

Weevil neg diffs

[prisma idol]

Voted

[brittle basin]

Why are you being so mean to him

[prisma idol]

This man is dead

[hot cairn]

Euge

[pure scaffold]

Haven't heard of him in a while

[dapper tree]

I know, it's sad

[dapper tree]

I'm being nice to weevil

[cosmic hamlet]

Wdym i know?

Jack is alive

[hot cairn]

I’m curious on what Oda plans to do with Weevil

[cosmic hamlet]

👀

[hot cairn]

I don’t see where he fits

[cosmic hamlet]

What kind of weird fantasy is this?

[sly belfry]

oda lied to his editor so he can draw a goofy design

[pure scaffold]

Well, it's a clone

[cosmic hamlet]

It is made from weevils mother dna

[pure scaffold]

Clones behave like their og counterparts mostly, right?

[pure scaffold]

Hm, so it would be more of a bickering sibling relationship in this case

[cosmic hamlet]

Its a weird thought is what i would say

[hot cairn]

[barren token]

Guys who should I vote for

[hot cairn]

me

[prisma idol]

Maffey at least has 8.82•10^-7 of the votes

[urban lodge]

Gunko or Buggy

[barren token]

Im.not voting those guys

[pure scaffold]

Cloning ethics is weird, there's a reason we don't do that with humans irl

[urban lodge]

Lame

[barren token]

Maybe suggest a beautiful woman for me to vote for?

[sly belfry]

vote for frankt

[prisma idol]

Vote Maffey

[sly belfry]

franky

[hot cairn]

Nami

[barren token]

Maffeys the kind of vote I would vote last time we got.to vote

[hot cairn]

Gerd

[barren token]

That was years ago I've grown and changed as a person im.no longer voting for niche hot women

I will vote gerd

[prisma idol]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Its on sight

[cosmic hamlet]

Clone stussy 👍

If not then whitebeard

[cosmic hamlet]

I wouldn't ask people to vote for nami

[barren token]

Gerd herd

[prisma idol]

People are already claiming nami fans are botting for some reason despite her not being in any of the top 5

[cosmic hamlet]

Yesterday someone posted that over all voting doubled in a day so nami is botted 🙄

[hot cairn]

it’s the carrot fans

[cosmic hamlet]

Or 2 days ago

[hot cairn]

they’re despicable and desperate

[prisma idol]

Sorry she is in 3 at number 4 and 5

[barren token]

We should all come together to bot zoro to number 1

[prisma idol]

Actually it was sanji fans

[hot cairn]

no

[prisma idol]

Ew

[hot cairn]

Luffy is no 1

[cosmic hamlet]

What?

[storm anvil]

[barren token]

We should all hold hands while.voting zoro

[prisma idol]

She is top 5 in 3 regions. Sitting at around num 4 and 5

[wet condor]

I've only voted maybe twice during this whole thing

[hot cairn]

I said no

[hot cairn]

me too lol

[barren token]

Same

[dapper tree]

He's dead

[cosmic hamlet]

Yeah but thats a very old data

[hot cairn]

I only voted the first 2 days

[prisma idol]

I've voted everyday

[cosmic hamlet]

Have you forgetten about jack?

[dapper tree]

He wasn't in the prison

[barren token]

I've voted for nami, ulti, and gerd

[wet condor]

Voted for Zoro once and Jinbei lol

[dapper tree]

He wasn't in the cover story

[urban lodge]

I've voted every day too

[hot cairn]

I voted for Luffy twice

[dapper tree]

Jack doesn't deserve that speech

[storm anvil]

haven't voted jinbe yet

i should

[prisma idol]

Have you been consistent

[stone terrace]

luffy gets botted evry poll

[barren token]

Luffy has never actually gotten 1 vote in any poll

[sturdy steeple]

Cool! Now vote for good characters, please! 🙏

[urban lodge]

So far 100% of my votes have been Gunko

[hot cairn]

Zoro and Jinbe are good characters tho

[cosmic hamlet]

They should add history as to whom we voted rather than people maintaining it 👀

[prisma idol]

I have 2 off days but everyday has been consistent as well

[urban lodge]

Later on I'm gonna give Buggy and Garp some votes too

[wet condor]

It's crazy b/c I could've sworn you appreciated jinbei

You've changed Keep

[barren token]

Gonna vote for ririka tomorrow i reckon

[sturdy steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[cosmic hamlet]

I have voted for nami first day, then didn't vote for few days then after that consistently voting

[grand flower]

@wet condor check tags

[wet condor]

||lowkey I do||

He need to get up

[prisma idol]

I was also nami the first day

[hot cairn]

who? Zoro or Jinbe?

[grand flower]

Heat

[urban lodge]

He just lost his firefighter job to Nami 💔

[cosmic hamlet]

I should vote kyros tommorrow, best biological dad

[grand flower]

Nami is a thief

[wet condor]

lol

[wet condor]

Jinbe

[hot cairn]

Jinbe is a chill guy

he’s just chillin

[sturdy steeple]

He still has his second job. He can carry people

Hope is not lost

[wet condor]

But he needs to get his lick back against Gunko

After the regen cheese gets countered

[stone terrace]

too late for that

[sturdy steeple]

I actually wonder if like

[prisma idol]

Yeah no if jimbei tries to fight gunko rn he gets folded

[sturdy steeple]

That situation where Jinbei said he needs to think resulted in what we have now with Killingham.

Because that’s not what the story explicitly implies.

[urban lodge]

I really doubt it

[cosmic hamlet]

I will not vote for any strawhats until the end

[wet condor]

We've still got to the end of this year

[urban lodge]

Not even joking it was probably Franky

He did get a power up after all and it was him who said they got too strong for them

[prisma idol]

Voted for one on day 1

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji handled Killingham and then probably all three of them decided “yeah let’s just cut that guy” imo

[wet condor]

That's why I said Gunko instead of Gunkmu lol

[prisma idol]

[barren token]

Jinbe thought really hard and came to the conclusion he should just wait for an actual character (sanji) to come help

[prisma idol]

I still think he would lose

[cosmic hamlet]

Yes and thats the only exception

[wet condor]

Not after the regen cheese is countered

[prisma idol]

Gunko's arrows genuinely are just bad matchups for a lot of people

[sturdy steeple]

But it’s pretty stupid because

[wet condor]

https://tenor.com/view/jinbe-jimbei-jinbei-big-mom-wci-gif-17852166761322279053

[cosmic hamlet]

Her powers are very diverse

[stone terrace]

i think jimbei gets diffed hard because its not even like gunko could be hit

[prisma idol]

She redirects attacks and uses them to power her own attacks

[sturdy steeple]

Dude kept thinking and nothing changed, lol

[stone terrace]

she let usopp do that to aura farm

[wet condor]

What's happening to Gunko without regen

[wet condor]

Why can't it?

[prisma idol]

She still wins

[cosmic hamlet]

We could have seen more creativity from gunko powers but lame imu took over

[trim lily]

unfortunately you can say that about literally all the knights and gorosei

[urban lodge]

Yeah I'm sorry but if she can dodge Gaban the fuck is Jimbei gonna do

[wet condor]

HKs are unimpressive

[wet condor]

That's the point I'm mkaing lol

[trim lily]

ah

[wet condor]

Because if she's not holding the children as hostages and fighting head on, she's getting an axe in her head

[trim lily]

it’s more a case of “they don’t need to dodge so why bother” but i don’t know how capable they are of it otherwise

[prisma idol]

If the Knights and Gorosei didnt have regen, Oda wouldnt show them taking as many hits

[trim lily]

yeah

[wet condor]

She's scared to fight them head on

[prisma idol]

Its purely that they regen that he let's them take so much

[urban lodge]

Music this is cope

[trim lily]

i imagine when the counter actually comes into play they’ll suddenly be more durable

[wet condor]

I mean Usopp called 'em out

[stone terrace]

yeah theres like 5 people who can confidently take on scopper in a timely manner

[prisma idol]

They all will have CoC or something

[alpine trench]

i dont think they're unimpressive i think the strawhats are just strong as fuck

[grand flower]

They’re gonna start trying

[stone terrace]

timely being the key word here lol

[grand flower]

Same

[prisma idol]

Reminder that the only knight we seen with CoC is Harald

[trim lily]

remember when dragon was worried about the knights coming into play

[alpine trench]

by all means, even those lower HKs have the power to bring an average nation down

[sturdy steeple]

It all comes to the question whether Sanji calling them out as bums is a setup or a genuine commentary

[prisma idol]

Which is why someone like loki had to take care of him because of the sheer amount of Haki he had to pull out added to his fruits base power amp

[alpine trench]

without fully investing their top tiers entirely

[stone terrace]

sanji calling hks bum meanwhile jimbei just has to take it

[wet condor]

5 people this arc or you speaking generally

[stone terrace]

in the world right now

[prisma idol]

Oda hasnt had them in the best light fight wise so a lot of people underestimate thme

[sturdy steeple]

Oh fuck

[alpine trench]

i think sanji is just too strong for them and can overwhelm them in seconds

[wet condor]

He's doing the same thing to them

[sturdy steeple]

I forgot that Gunko handled like 4-5 of them…

Jinbei……

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/locking-in-locked-in-gif-8219871157839817111

Holy Knights when Shamrock is on the clock

[alpine trench]

i think shamrock and gunko are the higher tier fighters in the group

[stone terrace]

i mean itd be bold to talk shit about all of them when he got essentially neg diffed

[prisma idol]

Yeah she aurafarmed by talking usopp's attack then bodied them all

[sturdy steeple]

That’s fine but I thought they’d be stronger than that I guess.

[grand flower]

I love that gunko is one of their heavy hitters

[trim lily]

i guess my bad for hoping the knights could be more balanced

[sturdy steeple]

I would say Gunko just has a weird gimmicky ability that’s hard to counter.

[prisma idol]

Im not losing hope yet

[alpine trench]

obviously, like any group, there are heavy hitters and there are hitters

[wet condor]

If she's actually a good fighter outside of regen bs, then I relax my case

[sturdy steeple]

But that being said, Jinbei, pleaaase….

[alpine trench]

the strawhats are the same

[wet condor]

I hope he beats the gimmick

[barren token]

Jinboy

[alpine trench]

but the strawhats overall have been the stronger group in this instance

[sturdy steeple]

That’s true but then again

[trim lily]

i sort of have cause at this point it feels like we’ll just be going back and forth with the knights overwhelming them then the strawhats overwhelming them and so on

[sturdy steeple]

Franky mentions how all of them became stronger

[prisma idol]

Thats just how OP does fights unfortunately

[barren token]

Just waiting for reverse loki

[prisma idol]

The knights at least got to look good unlike the Tobi roppo

[thick mango]

The fights aren't that important anyway it's fine

[alpine trench]

i think also by extension, the strawhats were not fully equipped beforehand to handle and now are prepared enough mentally to face stuff on their own

[trim lily]

i don’t remember what the tobi roppo did at all so maybe that’s for the best

[prisma idol]

Imagine we had the tobi roppo fights nowadays

[barren token]

Maria literally no diffed sanji

[prisma idol]

They all appeared, looked cool, and then got bodied without doing anything

[trim lily]

huge

[prisma idol]

The only one who had a good look was Ulti

[trim lily]

i’m gonna be so sad if gunko dies here without imuko using her fruit

it’s such a fun concept

[cosmic hamlet]

Tbh ulti was cool, she needed a proper 1 vs 1 instead of sasaki and whos who

Page one is decent

He faced sanji pre onigashima

[hot cairn]

I didn’t like Usopp and Nami vs Page One and Ulti

[crisp python]

Here's a high IQ question :

Is there any difference between saying

A) I won't hold myself back from fighting you
B) I won't hold myself back from using 100% of my power to fight you

😈

[trim lily]

i didn’t find their powers or designs super interesting so that’s probably part of why they’re a bit forgetful to me

[hot cairn]

would’ve been cooler if they defeated them without the BM assist

also Franky vs Sasaki was kinda boring

[cosmic hamlet]

Page one was taken out entirely by big mom

[hot cairn]

the other fights I liked

[cosmic hamlet]

Kinda wild whoswho mentioning nika to jimbei

[urban lodge]

Funniest exposition of all time

[wraith mantle]

I will not read spoilers for next chapter

[hot cairn]

who’s better? The holy knights or the tobbi roppo?

[cosmic hamlet]

Who tf told him about nika in prison lol

[wraith mantle]

I am expecting next chapter to be insane

[urban lodge]

HKs by far

[wraith mantle]

Hopefully Oda doesn’t go on an interlude

[trim lily]

my expositing king

[sturdy steeple]

HKs

[trim lily]

oda realized he never mentioned nika before this so he put who’s who on double time

[stone terrace]

I think the HKs are getting treated unfairly ngl

[wet condor]

I care more about the HKs marginally

[hot cairn]

me too

[stone terrace]

Like in terms of perception

[dapper tree]

The HKs suck but not fo the level of the Flykng 6

[wet condor]

I don't

[barren token]

Tobbi roppo mog hks

[stone terrace]

Sommers still hadnily defeated robin

[cosmic hamlet]

That story was kinda vague and left like that. Who would tell whoswho in prison?

[urban lodge]

Killingham got done so dirty

[stone terrace]

Gunko destroyed a group of SHs

[hot cairn]

it’s just because of the regen

[stone terrace]

Sanji beat up killingham sure, its sanji

[barren token]

Who's who, ulti, black maria the holy knights WISH

[sturdy steeple]

I’m sorry but Sommers as a villain is much better than anyone from F6.

[stone terrace]

What would current sanji do to a tobi roppo

[trim lily]

and then killingham got off screened and sommers continually obliterated in both a flashback and current

not to mention god valley

[hot cairn]

destroy them

[stone terrace]

Sommers just got hit with ana ttack that one shots anyone on the crew

[urban lodge]

Sommers is genuinely one of my favorite villains in the series

[trim lily]

he’s so fun

[urban lodge]

He's so fun

[trim lily]

please never kill him

[stone terrace]

gunko bots

[wet condor]

I think Gunko's gimmick is kind of slick but I don't view her as being particularly strong. The only one who I have high expectations for at this point is Shamrock

[urban lodge]

Lmao

[sturdy steeple]

Ayyyy

Gotta bot Gunko at poll then

[trim lily]

gunko hivemind

[wet condor]

^^^

[cosmic hamlet]

Did yamato kill whoswho?

[trim lily]

probably not

[hot cairn]

her fruit is sick

[urban lodge]

Sexism

[cosmic hamlet]

People tell whoswho is the strongest tobiroppi

[barren token]

Who's who is so fuckijg cool.i wish he was real

[hot cairn]

Sommers alone is better than them

[sturdy steeple]

Calamities destroy them so easy to imagine.

Killingham is probably as strong as a F6 physically.

[cosmic hamlet]

Eh

[wet condor]

The fruit is kind of cool. I'd talk less shit about her probably if she didn't have regen and stopped cheesing her way to victories

[sturdy steeple]

Although I really hate saying that because I genuinely expected them to be stronger, lol.

[cosmic hamlet]

York would make a good holyknight, if she gets chance

[urban lodge]

She only got hit once and it was on purpose

[stone terrace]

I dont get why regen is a factor for gunko

[hot cairn]

I’m surprised Killingham was done so dirty lol

[stone terrace]

she quite literally only got hit by usopp

on purpose

[hot cairn]

but because of Sanji’s comment I think Oda knows how he has portrayed the holy knights

which is even weirder

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

Gunko depended on regen only once

[sturdy steeple]

That’s why it might be that there’s a setup

[cosmic hamlet]

That too was not needed lol

[sturdy steeple]

Where they suddenly become stronger due to Imu’s rage or something

[wet condor]

Let her actually fight someone 1v1

Who's worth something

[hot cairn]

they’re strong but maybe the crew is just stronger

[wet condor]

Without it lol

[cosmic hamlet]

Imu took possession of wrong holyknight

[sturdy steeple]

But if not then Oda is showing why emperors are feared even by WG.

[stone terrace]

these are the first batch of HKs so i do expect more lol

who was the booger guy?

mr 5?

they didnt send daz bones off rip

[hot cairn]

exactly

[blazing depot]

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[hot cairn]

I think the stronger ones are being saved for later

[blazing depot]

Aura

[hot cairn]

just like the baroque works

the stronger ones were saved for Alabasta

[hot cairn]

could be

I mean Summers is still up technically

he was still talking after Luffy’s attack

[sturdy steeple]

He is up

And Killy isn’t dead

So there’s gonna be more

But if they’re not getting a powerup then idk how they’re gonna win. Well, Sommers seemed alright while fighting Gaban. He’s not really a pushover. But still
Killingham just got one-shotted by Sanji so I dunno what else there to say.

[hot cairn]

things are going to well rn, that’s why I think Loki could get domi reversid

but Idk if the holy knights will get 1v1’s anymore

[wet condor]

Sommers didn't even fight Gaban really though

Gaban just chopped him up and went about conducting business