also-manga

[restive lintel]

Why not? It sounds fun

[steel stirrup]

Damn shame they could've put her younger pics up

[restive lintel]

Oars 2.0

[cunning narwhal]

Nah things would be moving too quick if he was

[hot cairn]

you’ll be calling Oda washed if you’re wrong tho

[steel stirrup]

I mean she still a baddie but younger Gloriosa was peak

[soft tangle]

They had the chance to Domi him before

[dense rapids]

Chopper is gonna unlock instant healing btw and the Strawhats will have their on version of regen

Brook and Usopp will be fine

[prisma yacht]

channel shld be filled with usopp chants

[hot cairn]

Marijois looked fine a couple of chapters ago

[polar hare]

I still want to see a more detailed picture of loki's nidhogg fruit. It was so tiny in his hand you could barely consider it anything but a spec.

[dense rapids]

He’s gonna be Mansherry x10

[soft tangle]

Imagine NOT domi reversing Sabo while your crib getting raided? Sabo really that ass

[leaden sapphire]

is imus prescence reuqired on the island to maintain DR

[polar hare]

What is DR?

[leaden sapphire]

domi

[olive sun]

I do think the pivot of usopp just being a cheerleader on the sidelines acting as commentary to him personally facing the boss going "I'm furious beyond words" was a little awkward, Oda did not actually build up to that moment whatsoever he just teleported and had a mood swing lol

[soft tangle]

Domi reverse

[olive sun]

But the scene is excellent

[prisma yacht]

i think he needs a pee break

[leaden sapphire]

i reallly like ussops moment

[prisma yacht]

is really shy to say it out loud

[pseudo gulch]

This is gonna be everything Usopp gets this arc isn't it

[royal orchid]

✱These enemies are Pissing me off...

[soft tangle]

Yes

[leaden sapphire]

i would say brook would have died if not for ussops stalling

[hot cairn]

LMAOO

[urban lodge]

Yes

[pseudo gulch]

I loved this moment but come on

[royal orchid]

that guy is down for the count

[cunning narwhal]

I hope not bro

[pseudo gulch]

Fuck you Oda

[prisma yacht]

brother thats everything

[brittle basin]

yeah, him joining up with brook and then losing was all off-screen and so it's a sharp right turn that catches you off-guard.

[pseudo gulch]

Genuinely

[polar hare]

Ussops Power surge is him ragebaiting the crap out of Imu.

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-tsubasa-tsubasa-ozora-reaction-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-tsubasa-gif-11758834804236913421

[soft tangle]

Oda made him lose to his own attack, he’s done

[olive sun]

Usopp facing the strongest being in the world and calling him a coward while facing him earnestly does show his growth

[urban lodge]

The alabasta moment but with 1% of the impact

[olive sun]

I think he's earned the right to call himself a brave warrior of the sea now

[brittle basin]

we got a few breadcrumbs

[leaden rivet]

I don’t think Imu was much rage baited

[pseudo gulch]

Hey at least that's an upgrade on Wano right? || ||

[olive sun]

He may not be able to back it up but he's changed

[pseudo gulch]

Fuck the breadcrumbs man 😭 😭 😭 😭

[royal orchid]

his wano moment was a billion times better than this

[prisma yacht]

godking usoppppp

[brittle basin]

What if Oda hates us, Johto?

[ashen perch]

Yes, but it's the same thing. He's the final boss in all of those arcs but Crocodile and Luffy literally cannot meet each other until then, so their first encounter happens halfway through the story.

Only brought up the 2nd or 3rd defeats since you were mentioning that it was late in the arc, Ultimately it doesn't matter because it's the start of this long conflict with Imu, the amount of chapters is irrelevant.

[olive sun]

(Until Oda resets him to status quo for antics and gags per usual but so be it)

[pseudo gulch]

Well he definitely hates me

[dense haven]

what else did you expect

[brittle basin]

1998 Oda

[proud loom]

Luffy should cut his hair it’s too long

[pseudo gulch]

I genuinely thought he'd do something other than just talk

[leaden rivet]

Being an Usopp fan is a terrible investment

[ashen perch]

Won't happen

[leaden rivet]

You should know this Johto

[pseudo gulch]

Usopp brother ditch the fucking plants PLEASE

[soft tangle]

Shonen curse

[proud loom]

Best investment of my entire life

[dense haven]

usopp fans are in no position to be picky

just take it or leave it

[stone terrace]

Talking is better

[proud loom]

Every usopp L is a W in my eyes

[pseudo gulch]

I knew it but I was still delusional enough to believe he'd get more

[royal orchid]

usopp's peak to me was still onigashima
doesn't even come close

[ashen perch]

No

[proud loom]

Every usopp W is a W for me

[stone terrace]

This is an improvement over dressrosa at least lol

[hot cairn]

you’re kinda delusional Arsal

[leaden rivet]

No it’s not lol

[pseudo gulch]

I find it hard to believe it brother

[stone terrace]

He ran in dressrosa

[soft tangle]

He lost all his muscle

[leaden rivet]

Usopp didn’t achieve anything here he just talked shit. In Dressrosa he was necessary for victory

[ashen perch]

Its fine, your expectations are in the abyss

[proud loom]

(Excuse the piss colour) but this is peak in my eyes

[ashen perch]

Not even sure who to reply to

[brittle basin]

dressrosa usopp is still my favorite, sorry but the gags and what they lead to are just chef's kiss

[stone terrace]

Usopp beating sugar was not a feat of bravery

[ashen perch]

Because everyone's expectations are in hell

[urban lodge]

I never really liked Usopp in Dressrosa as much as other people

[stone terrace]

That was a feat of marksmanship

[brittle basin]

and it was awesome

[stone terrace]

I couldnt care less about that

[brittle basin]

and fucking funny

[rose rune]

gear 4 pose

[pseudo gulch]

Yeah I liked this part

[prisma yacht]

usopp is still getting ragnir btw

[polar hare]

Peak Usopp arc

[muted hedge]

not Oden?

[urban lodge]

Him running away while the tontatta were fucking dying left a bad taste in my mouth even if he came back

[prisma idol]

Is this the worst the fandom has believed in Oda?

[pseudo gulch]

But I'm tired of him being a yapper DO SOMETHING MAN

ANYTHING

[brittle basin]

water 7 usopp is a top contender as well but for different reasons.

[rose rune]

oden is dead... let it go

[dense haven]

you know its over when people have to fight to decide if this is a valid usopp moment or not

[pseudo gulch]

Water 7 Usopp is DEAD

[royal orchid]

the western fandom absolutely hates oda

[dense rapids]

Chapter 1233: “Usopp The Liar”

Chapter 1234: “Usopp, Brave Warrior of the Sea”

Chapter 1235: “Goodbye Friend”

[brittle basin]

So far Franky isn't laid out. This is actually his arc. And he saw the mural first.

[ashen perch]

Yeah no doubt, we're seeing levels unheard of here

[leaden rivet]

It’s a good moment but like 1000 chapters in it isn’t sufficient we’ll need a lot more

[pseudo gulch]

Fuck Franky as well 😭 😭 😭

[brittle basin]

Usopp with dials is nomore.

[royal orchid]

damn wait Luffy hit the odennnnnnnnnnn

[polar hare]

time to boil him ig

[hot cairn]

my expectations aren’t in hell, I’m just normal about them

[rose rune]

actually, you can tell gunk imu has the gun, so Usopp surviving what blasted broggy's arm off is a huge upscale

[prisma idol]

I wonder what is making so many people hate elbaf

[stone terrace]

Yea theres need to be more than just moments i want to see tangible and sustained growth

[pseudo gulch]

Sooooo true!!!

[leaden rivet]

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone here say they hate Elbaf Bluko

[prisma idol]

I'm glad someone else realized he was shot

[leaden rivet]

People just didn’t like it as much as they thought they would

[stone terrace]

Otherwise we're back where we started with usopp the sine wave

[prisma yacht]

lets not forget the beast hajrudin

SMASH MSASH SMASH

[dense rapids]

The True Knight of God

[muted hedge]

give him a proper spear pretty please

[brittle basin]

Good question. I know for a fact for me that something about the GKs irks me the wrong way. Others reasons are probably not fully formed in my head yet.

[prisma yacht]

soon

[dense haven]

my expectations are in hell so I'm taking anything slightly positive from usopp

[ashen perch]

Even just in Wano Acts and 1 and 2, everything I'm saying would be treated as reasonable by the fans. The fact that you're calling it delusions is undeniably a crazy change of expectations among the fanbase

[muted hedge]

so true

[dense haven]

I already gave up on him

[pseudo gulch]

Surely Usopp will finish Gunko in the next couple of chapters right guys

[brittle basin]

just watch LA season 2. that's the new cooler usopp

[soft tangle]

He survives everything that doesn’t penetrate through the body

[dark nymph]

Okay so you're saying what happened in those contained arcs is gonna happen but in the context of this final saga.

i guess my only issue with that is that its not actually Imu that we're facing, its a weaker version of them, Luffy going from losing to this weaker version of Imu to defeating the actual Imu is gonna be an insane power jump that I don't think OP has the time for.

[prisma idol]

I agree with you there I dislike oda's handling of the HKs this arc

[rose rune]

I didn't know that was a thing people didn't notice

[pseudo gulch]

I regret buying 112 now

[brittle basin]

Johto is dropping One Piece.

[leaden rivet]

Man if this is really the last thing Usopp does this arc I’m so curious to see how Arsal will defend it

[prisma idol]

Nobody is beating imu

[hot cairn]

the arc is kinda weird

[prisma yacht]

why is there a need to defend this

[brittle basin]

IF (and I don't think it is) it is the last thing Usopp does this arc, I will have no words for how pissed I'd be at Oda.

[soft tangle]

You’ll keep reading

[prisma idol]

The arc fell off once rocks appeared🥀

[prisma yacht]

this is absolutely peak

[pseudo gulch]

Luffy eventually will

[brittle basin]

yes......

[prisma yacht]

perfect fueling

[soft tangle]

And Usopp fans will gaslight

[prisma idol]

Not this arc

[pine scaffold]

As soon as we came back to the present, nothing has been the same

[brittle basin]

Mods, tear their soul from this reality.

[pine scaffold]

Rocks piece was saving this manga

[prisma idol]

I genuinely would despise Luffy beating Imu here

[urban lodge]

Rocks piece is literally the beginning of the end

[dense haven]

sb are you voting rocks

[leaden rivet]

This manga didn’t need to be saved

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-i-used-to-pray-meek-mill-dreams-and-nightmares-dreams-and-nightmares-michael-jordan-gif-4600240804856944817

[muted hedge]

what would be the best thing that Usopp could do here?

[stone terrace]

Elbaf really is just wwe themed lol

[prisma idol]

You hate me because I speak the truth

[dense haven]

die

[brittle basin]

Rocks' flashback is one of the main highlights of Elbaf.

[soft tangle]

Domi reverse is like another wano act 3

[dense haven]

die

[pine scaffold]

Yeah

[muted hedge]

not applicable

[leaden rivet]

I honestly can’t really see what he can do here. I don’t see how he can interfere in a positive way this battle

[stone terrace]

Usopp should sacrifice himself

Would he actually die? Ofc not

[graceful grove]

surely this has to be just the start. no all we get is a useless pop green blast. thats literlly what we got in wano

[pine scaffold]

He's probably in the top 3 best characters this arc

[soft tangle]

Luffy loki dragon

[stone terrace]

Make usopp lose an eye or something

[pseudo gulch]

Imagine if he did tho

[leaden rivet]

By blowing himself and giving Luffy an anger amp he’s lowkey like the third most valuable SH this arc

Don’t downplay him

[muted hedge]

damn

[dense haven]

is he top 3 best character in fiction?

[leaden rivet]

Luffy will need that

[urban lodge]

Usopp being the eyepatch guy? That would be kinda cool

[pseudo gulch]

Oda already made him lose his observation haki

[pine scaffold]

Nah thats crazy glaze

My pfp is tho

[leaden rivet]

Barely anyone can use observation haki

[brittle basin]

Which stage of grief is this?

[muted hedge]

who is your pfp?

[dark nymph]

we're supposed to be the doomers not you

[pseudo gulch]

Fuckass powerup he used it once 15 years ago and never even bothered to use it again

[hot cairn]

tbh I wasn’t here for that. Also I think people just don’t believe Oda can create interesting conflicts after Wano and Egghead (I love both arcs). I do believe this arc is weaker than Wano and Egghead tho, I just can’t tell you why rn. I wanna see how it ends. Your predictions are pretty cool tho, would def make me enjoy the arc more. But until then the arc feels like it’s reaching a “climax”

[somber flare]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

[leaden rivet]

Hey I still believe Usopp is getting conquerors I’m not coping I swear

[hot cairn]

I’m not saying Elbaph is bad tho

[pseudo gulch]

I'm entering my doomer arc

[graceful grove]

ill forgive oda if this leads to loki pitying him and telling ragnir to go with him

[pseudo gulch]

I was already tired of One Piece and this isn't helping

[pine scaffold]

I can't say due to other series spoilers

[leaden rivet]

Johto have faith

[ashen perch]

To be clear, there has been no indication that this is a significantly weaker version of Imu. The only thing holding him back is his spirit that can be shaken if Gunko tries to take control. Outside of that, there's been nothing.

And regardless, seeing how Imu was unaffected by everything in God Valley, Luffy is going to need an insane power jump to win anyways lol

[soft tangle]

Giving Usopp a admiral tier power💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

[muted hedge]

oh

[dense haven]

I'd rather usopp get nothing than get a pity upgrade

[leaden rivet]

It’s still possible Usopp gets back up

And saves the day

[hot cairn]

I agree

[dense haven]

have some shame

[pine scaffold]

its a JJK character, everyone knows him

everyone in this chat knows him

[leaden rivet]

[muted hedge]

everyone except me

[prisma yacht]

ragnir is very close to usopp its almost time he does the inevitable

[graceful grove]

oda can nerf it like with the rest. look at Zeus. he only piss rain and eat namis black balls now

[hot cairn]

I think me too

[somber flare]

its ok you don't need to know

[prisma yacht]

who

whats his name

[somber flare]

Domi reversi Loki is still on btw

[muted hedge]

thanks, that's reassuring

[urban lodge]

Usopp getting Ragnir is honestly drop worthy

[pine scaffold]

Yall trying to get me banned bruh

[pseudo gulch]

It's also possible I win the lottery tomorrow

[graceful grove]

its at the stage where we will take anything over nothing

[soft tangle]

He needs it to beat Van Auger sadly

[royal orchid]

https://x.com/i/status/2034637805251436846

elipri ☆ eli/エーリ (@Zwiebelfee)

It’s the eyebrows….
#ONEPIECE

X · Mar 19, 2026, 2:27 PM

[urban lodge]

It would be so embarrassingly bad

[cunning narwhal]

What the heck can usopp even do if he gets back up? He’s too injured to go help zoro and the others and cant do shit against imu

[dark nymph]

There hasn't been any, true. I'm just making that assumption cause thats how it goes with this trope from what media i've consumed

[stone terrace]

I think usopp sticking around for brook is a good character moment. Him calling imu a coward was a miss

[prisma yacht]

peak

[graceful grove]

if van auger loose to a pop green, im dropping op

[dense rapids]

Chopper will awaken and instant heal him

[somber flare]

Imu won't throw hands until they are forced to

[stone terrace]

The fuck do you mean "fair and square" you're the fuckin pirate here

[urban lodge]

Loki domi reversi 100% guaranteed

[hot cairn]

damn…

[proud loom]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[pine ridge]

nah he was cooking

[soft tangle]

No

[pine scaffold]

well

[ashen perch]

What I said had nothing to do with the arcs themselves though, I think the conflicts have continued to be interesting and so is this. The fanbase has collectively just declined and it affects everyone unfortunately.

To be clear on the climax thing, the editors that shout "CLIMAX SOON" every arc, in every finale chapter and even earlier than finale chapters have yet to make one comment on this being the climax. The last time the editor mentioned the word climax was during GV, to indicate that it was ending soon (and it did)

[latent hamlet]

"You're a coward!"

specifically only chose to man up because its elbaf

He needed the elbaf buff

[leaden sapphire]

prob not that would trigger a very bad scenario

[graceful grove]

he is defending his vision of Elbaf against the strongest thing on the planet. thats massive for usopp

[dark nymph]

how long do you think this arc will be

[dark nymph]

I was betting on 80 at the start

[ashen perch]

I think we're only halfway through

[soft tangle]

No way

[leaden rivet]

He got fucked up

[dark nymph]

so 50 more chapters damn

[graceful grove]

3/4 done

[soft tangle]

He was already looking like blackbeard before

[iron oriole]

The way Oda drew this, i thought Usopp lost his arm

[ashen perch]

Sources tell me he's stable

[dark nymph]

did he blow himself up

[muted hedge]

i kinda want Usopp's slingshot to eat a fruit

[leaden sapphire]

unless we shift to happenings around the world no way

[pine scaffold]

nah that'd be bad ngl

[urban lodge]

Please god

[graceful grove]

that would be cool

[pine scaffold]

we need to focus on whats happening on Elbaf

right now isnt the time for cutaways

[muted hedge]

yeah, it already has a mouth lol

[ashen perch]

Well eventually that too

[graceful grove]

pop green is not enough

[pseudo gulch]

Surely he's gonna come back with a sick burn scar and defeat one demon giant

[twin summit]

I think it is

[cunning narwhal]

Oda said it ends this year, or at least we’ll see stuff outside elbaf before it ends

[prisma idol]

Vile

[soft tangle]

Shamrock please save Imu from looking like a bum 🙏

[graceful grove]

franky upgraded his cola. its time

[hot cairn]

mmm you’re right on the editor thing, they haven’t said anything about the climax yet.

I do find the Wano and Egghead conflicts interesting. The Elbaph one is the one I’m not as invested with. Everything just feels off. It’s like Buffy says, the arc feels like it’s ending and still has half way to go at the same time.

[pine scaffold]

People been saying this is CHOPPERS arc now

[ashen perch]

He didn't say this.

[leaden sapphire]

yea i dont think the fight is gonna last gonna too long

[pseudo gulch]

It be anyone's arc but Usopp's

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah did Chopper fucking kill that guy lol

[leaden sapphire]

god valley was already so long away from elbalf

[cunning narwhal]

That was his jump festa message was it not

[pine scaffold]

Yeah, I can honestly see these fights finishing up in like 15 chapters

[urban lodge]

"Kill"

[pseudo gulch]

That was ridiculous

[rose rune]

healing haki

[pseudo gulch]

Like come on now

[muted hedge]

people switch whose arc it is more often than they shower

[cunning narwhal]

“We’ll see the happenings of other seas”

[pseudo gulch]

One Chopper slap KILLED a giant warrior?

[urban lodge]

Lmaooooo

[pseudo gulch]

I'm starting to see why people slander giants

[twin summit]

I think that has to do with the pacing, it kinda ramped up after the GK appeared

[brittle basin]

so does oda.

[dark nymph]

Chopper szn

[muted hedge]

i mean he didn't really say it was anyones arc from the start

[pine scaffold]

The streets are saying Chopper is the forest god

[muted hedge]

fans have gotten stuck on it being a specific characters arc

[pine scaffold]

how do u feel abt that

[leaden sapphire]

yea that needs clarification the domi powers are still very confusing

[twin summit]

He didn't die he was just flipped over

[muted hedge]

ever since whole cake island

[rose rune]

it's obviously some weird shit Oda is setting up

[brittle basin]

it's actually bb's arc cause of rocks

[graceful grove]

chopper is that guy

[hot cairn]

Chopper’s fruit is special

[dark nymph]

my first guess was that its some positioning bullshit

[soft tangle]

Didn’t even scratch him

[royal orchid]

Imu with his "a leader never sullies their hands" philosophy in the era of joyboy, nidhogg, rocks, poseidon

[pine scaffold]

Every chapter in Elbaf I feel Blackbeard's presence in the background

[pine ridge]

yeah we see the demon leaving the body

[pine scaffold]

he's doing some crazy shit I bet

[hot cairn]

kinda yeah

[pseudo gulch]

I want to make a joke so bad but I can't l

[stone terrace]

Oda said elbaf would move at breakneck speed

[brittle basin]

i still don't understand what happened here. it doesn't look like chopper killed him, but rather that the demon spirit within was scared?

[twin summit]

Do it

[ashen perch]

ENDED, as in, the past, as in, the flashback that he had just finished ending in the submitted manuscripts of the chapter when he made this statement

[pine scaffold]

Yeah oda aint wasting time anymore

Sommers defeated
Killingham defeated
Domi Reversi giants saved
MMA's defeated

[prisma yacht]

almost all the strawhats are getting their shit

[pine scaffold]

we are now onto the final fight and then we get Domi Loki

then we get the wrap up

[soft tangle]

Domi loki isn’t happening

[rose rune]

it's healing haki buffy. the power of doctoring

[urban lodge]

Luffy is passively giving them nika powers

[pseudo gulch]

If I had to get banned I'd rather get banned for something worth the ban

[twin summit]

There's no way it's not

[pine scaffold]

everyone said this wouldnt happen to Rocks

[graceful grove]

turns out choppers DF is the real counter for Imu

[pine scaffold]

but it did

its so obvious it will happen

[twin summit]

Unless we get domi ragnir

[ashen perch]

And thats by design, its not random that you're getting that feeling lol

[soft tangle]

Why do you all want Imu to reverse loki now and not when he was tied up

[pine scaffold]

plot

[pseudo gulch]

"YOU'RE NIKA! AND YOU'RE NIKA! AND YOU'RE NIKA TOO!!!!"

[hot cairn]

wdym

[leaden sapphire]

and rocks died and it took everything garp and roger had

and god valley was sunk

[pine scaffold]

This time Loki will be saved

Loki ain't gonna die

[soft tangle]

If Loki was domi’d in the beginning, Elbaf is done for

[urban lodge]

This time Nika is here and Loki will be saved

[leaden sapphire]

how

[graceful grove]

he better fucking not. luffy don't need to take credit for all the shit

[twin summit]

You're joking, but this probably will happen at some point

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-its-so-peak-rayleigh-gif-18066990322494779748

[pseudo gulch]

Plot armor

[ashen perch]

The feeling that its ending soon, that's the feeling that Oda is very clearly pushing. At the same time, the gut feeling is "Surely not". Both exist by design, its what Oda wants

[royal orchid]

mein gott bruh

twitter now believes 100% with a 1000% that chopper is the forest god

[prisma idol]

Its the Era of Doomposting in the OP Fandom

[hot cairn]

Ah

I guess

[pine scaffold]

Well the SH are extremely powerful now

it seems Chopper might be the key to saving Loki

[pseudo gulch]

That's when I'll put the series on hold for a while

[hot cairn]

people are giving up on Oda

[twin summit]

It'll be black clover all over again

[brittle basin]

How about Oda put down the plot armor and start plotting out Usopp's comeback.

[dark nymph]

So whats the complete picture here, Luffy loses? Imu fucks off with the giant kids and dr's Loki?

[pseudo gulch]

"Twitter now believes-" wrap it up

[twin summit]

Nah he's good where he is

[prisma idol]

Leakers Glazed sanji this chapter

[graceful grove]

let em cook

[prisma idol]

Can yall guess on what

[leaden sapphire]

chopper is prob the only way whatever that mechanic is but he doesnt know he can do that

[hot cairn]

I have no idea

[pseudo gulch]

I don't know how much more betrayal I can take

I feel like I've been stabbed in the heart

[leaden sapphire]

no way he can step in between in a all out battle with nika and nidhogg

[prisma yacht]

leakers glazed zoro for that cut

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

[royal orchid]

it's like watching a specimen
it's fascinating really

[pseudo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-paulie-paulie-walnuts-stabbed-in-the-heart-betrayal-sopranos-gif-2343172335051793846

[pine scaffold]

Luffy might be able to give him an opening

for Chopper to defeat Loki

[twin summit]

Probably leaves the kids for now. They don't have a return ship and they can't brand the kids so...

[prisma idol]

Nope

They downplayed it

[prisma yacht]

nope

[pseudo gulch]

It was an alright feature

Like it's cool but it's also Zoro

[royal orchid]

funny how oda's not even hiding the fact that now that he can kill characters without actually killing them, suddenly giants are made of butter

[pseudo gulch]

You'd expect that from him

[cunning narwhal]

Where is this translation from? Its a bit different from pews. Either way he still talks about the strawhats leaving elbaf

[twin summit]

It's true, he's not getting a power-up or at least not a game changing one like ragnir

[soft tangle]

Celestial dragons can fold infinitely

[dark nymph]

Saturn syndrome

[leaden sapphire]

eh chopper defeating a domi largest dragon in the world is kinda lame to me

[prisma idol]

That is always the case with characters with Regen

[brittle basin]

Why does Oda hate me?

[urban lodge]

The jump festa message from like 3 years ago hasn't happened yet

[royal orchid]

yeah

[prisma yacht]

i swear they edited this only now

[urban lodge]

It almost never happens in that same year

[dark nymph]

Sanji offscreened Killingham..

[royal orchid]

#FakeDemons

[prisma yacht]

poor killy

[stone terrace]

Sanji didnt do anything

[prisma yacht]

he was cool

[stone terrace]

But zoro also didnt do anything crazy

[pine scaffold]

Killingham got annihilated

[ashen perch]

Mine is the official translation from Oda's Staff's Twitter.

And yes, he talks about the next island but only after the arc ends, he has never reached an island in the year the statement's meant for lol

[pine scaffold]

which is sad

[soft tangle]

Oda gave logia regen to bums #NeverForget

[pine scaffold]

I kinda wanted a full 1v1 fight with the holy knights vs zoro/sanji

[latent hamlet]

nah zoro did a named attack
already better

[prisma yacht]

buffy

[pine scaffold]

a full chapter of Sommers vs Sanji etc

[dark nymph]

smoker in the new world type performance

[prisma yacht]

send ur list

[twin summit]

That's gotta come later

[pine scaffold]

but I dont think we are getting those types of fights anymore

at least this arc

[latent hamlet]

you'll get that with that 1 HK swordswoman, she'll also conveniently remind zoro of kuina

[prisma idol]

They can still get back up for that SB

[leaden sapphire]

yo can we say one of the people who will meet that oda hinted in the jump festa is imu and nika

one of them

[pine scaffold]

yes

[prisma yacht]

lmfao

[royal orchid]

I mean one theory I have even comes from that

[graceful grove]

this is why regen sucks ass. it makes fights so cheap

[pine scaffold]

idek

[royal orchid]

which is that once you sign a contract with Imu your body becomes a mass of abyss

[brittle basin]

are we even getting this anymore?

[twin summit]

Yeah he probably meant as much

[pine scaffold]

I am really starting to think the abyssal power system is a mistake

[woven talon]

streaming soon!

[pine scaffold]

its just creating too many problems and getting confusing for me and many readers

[twin summit]

Nah just let him cook

[pine scaffold]

Idk :/

I would have loved Sanji getting acoc vs Sommers lol

peak cinema

[frail kindle]

Well you and many readers lack reading comprehension

[twin summit]

We need material for the next island

[ruby cape]

The whole thing with Sommers I can live with it’s Killingham getting off screened that pushes it

[brittle basin]

shit yeah....sanji still needs adv conq. something has to happen.

[pine scaffold]

this is mean

[latent hamlet]

"guys i literally have lightning fire island smasher punch"

Sommers: IM FINE

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-tisbutascratch-knight-funny-gif-9050905

[prisma idol]

Sanji never unlocks acoc

[frail kindle]

The truth hurts sometimes

[prisma idol]

Imagine

[odd rune]

The scenes

[leaden sapphire]

yo there are many questions unanswered we just gotta wait

[prisma yacht]

ok so big things i think happened this chapter

are

[leaden sapphire]

it isnt about comprehension

[hot cairn]

where is Summers

[twin summit]

This is about agenda

[dark nymph]

devastating for Zoro...

[fast pagoda]

I think Imu's fruit is also a hito hito series

Hito hito no mi model akuma

Which is why Chopper did that

[leaden sapphire]

luffy took him out

[twin summit]

Nah bro has the game game fruit

[pine scaffold]

I also wanted a fight against Dorry and Broggy demons

[royal orchid]

guys the real message one piece conveys is that humans are all evil

[urban lodge]

I'm not even gonna try to understand the Chopper thing for now

[pine scaffold]

Zoro and Sanji vs Dorry and Broggy

[twin summit]

Bro what

[odd rune]

But what would that matter

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-gif-23663947

[leaden sapphire]

draw fan fics at this point

[twin summit]

That was too obvious of a set up

[hot cairn]

he was still talking after that attack

[hot cairn]

that was never going to happen

[prisma yacht]

chopper flipping the giant
usopp standing upto imu
shs toying with killy
hmmm thats it i can say faceoff but it was going to happen and wasnt allat

[pine scaffold]

I feel like oda 100% changed his mind on Dorry and Broggy

They were literally set up as extremely powerful demons but as soon as we got to the present, instantly saved

like bruh

[graceful grove]

oda have sacrificed story impact and tension for cheap visual one shot moments. everyone can take a "cool shot" at them and they will be "hurt" but they will come back so everyone else can take turn to do the same. he has already snuffed out any type of tension/threat we feel during SH fights with all the fakeouts and now we have similar issue with villains

[stone terrace]

Twas underwhelimg yeah

[odd rune]

I hope more than ever that the anime adds to Elbaf. If they had creative liberty before I'd love for them to have even more now. The last 2 chapters particularly strike me as ones the anime could do really well

[hot cairn]

in what way?

[twin summit]

That or he wrote himself into a corner bc there was no way the strawhats would intentionally kill their former allies

[odd rune]

Imagine the sad ass music as usopp is fighting , the voice acting, a bit more of a dramatic build up

[leaden sapphire]

the regen isnt being milked to do as many pair ups as oda want

[odd rune]

A la stampede

[dense rapids]

I’m noticing Imu didn’t come while Usopp shot it

Usopp sacrificed himself

[leaden sapphire]

its been used quite well to create menace

[dense rapids]

Didn’t work tho

[odd rune]

Yeah usopp decided to use the bomb right in front of him which is a bit questionable but whatever it was epic lol

[muted hedge]

really the one they're sacrificing is Gunko

oh wait i read it wrong

[trim lily]

surely this loss is merely setup for his grand contribution later like with bullet

[odd rune]

My fear is that the anime will just do what it's been doing and give us a 1-1 of the manga but slower and worse

[leaden sapphire]

whos bullet?

[dense rapids]

Oda next chapter

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-fire-cooking-cooking-blackbeard-fire-blackbeard-writing-gif-12311643916213721052

[prisma yacht]

yeah lol dunno wtf was oda thinking skipping usopps shit directly to face imu

[pine scaffold]

I hope next chapter gets everyone hyped and excited with OP again

Oda could really cook next week

[trim lily]

funniest movie villain by far

[pine scaffold]

showing Imu off etc

[dense rapids]

Imagine we cut away

[leaden sapphire]

very excited to see some more imu powers

[soft tangle]

I’m not

[cunning narwhal]

Bro this is so likely i hate it

[pine scaffold]

He's just gonna get slandered for the 10th time

[dense rapids]

“In a faraway sea a whirlpool begins”

[pine scaffold]

offscreening fights

[cunning narwhal]

Just stick with the fight oda

[royal orchid]

https://x.com/i/status/2034616117340057944

dumbbuttdoodl (@dumbbuttdoodll)

X · Mar 19, 2026, 1:00 PM

[pine scaffold]

hes gonna get cooked bruh

[prisma idol]

Next chapter feels like a make or break for a good few people

[dense rapids]

Wdym Oda has cut away 20 times like this 😂

[hot cairn]

next chapter better be Imu beating Luffy and Loki's ass

[pine scaffold]

yeah, seriously

[dense rapids]

Hopefully it’s Imu vs loki and Luffy tho

[odd rune]

I think this is probably the up there with the grandest contributions and steps towards Usopps goal

[dark nymph]

isn't that fixed by the seasonal thing

[pine scaffold]

a full fight chapter between these 3 would be cinema

just like the old days with roofpiece

[soft tangle]

Imu needs to blast Elbaf down under if this plan fails

[odd rune]

At this point there was no doubt in his mind at all, he just was like, fuck you gunko, eat shit and die and I'm a warrior and not going to run

That's like actually the most pronounced he's been

[royal orchid]

me when oda suddenly goes to hachinosu to continue the garp story in ch1178

[trim lily]

yeah this was very cool for usopp

definitely the highlight of the chapter, though its a bit of a shame he didnt get to do more

[soft tangle]

The highlight was nami screaming

[odd rune]

So funny

[gritty shuttle]

I liked this page I thought it was funny

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/wanna-kill-myself-the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-frustrated-gif-13414030

[graceful grove]

imagine luffy beating imu here and during final war he just says "didn't we already beat u in elbaf" like some team rocket bs... surely not right?

[leaden sapphire]

loki prob got scared lol

[cunning narwhal]

The highlight was hajrudin using gungnir again

[odd rune]

That's one big ass hampster

[royal orchid]

Ragnir already a crewmember I don't care

[pine scaffold]

why does Luffy look like a baby here

[gritty shuttle]

Its also got a crazy widows peak

[hot cairn]

I hope Luffy gets his ass beat no cap

[pine scaffold]

Sometimes gear 5 Luffy looks so young lol

[royal orchid]

I'm pretty sure Luffy shrunk down just a little in this scene

[hot cairn]

he's my goat but I dont want Oda to make Imu look bad rn

[leaden sapphire]

he is young

[iron oriole]

Elbaf has so many good panels i swear...

[leaden sapphire]

oh u mean like a baby

[odd rune]

The flashback really is the highlight of Elbaf

Going to Elbaf was worth it for just that

[graceful grove]

u also wanna see whats going down in Vascos dungeon with Garp huh

[odd rune]

And Loki

[celest mauve]

he looks younger than his 16 y/o self from kuma's flashback, like oda really wants to de-age this mf and can't do it unless he has G5 as an excuse

[leaden sapphire]

the anime is gonna be so stacked

[pine scaffold]

Lol

[pseudo gulch]

I'm hating it here

[gritty shuttle]

Lowk I wish oda would stop drawing screaming mouths like this

[royal orchid]

man that streak of Sommers reaction images was hilarious to me

[odd rune]

Elbaf is like a 9/10 in the anime I'm calling it

[royal orchid]

he's just a very exaggerated reaction guy

[graceful grove]

one can hope.

[leaden sapphire]

wdu hate it so much

[iron oriole]

Its gonna be hard to decide my favourite panel/chapter of Elbaf by the end

[odd rune]

I'm no longer fucktoei I'm blesstoei if they pull it off

[gritty shuttle]

Sometimes it's just ugly

[hot cairn]

what did you think of the chapter macks

[pseudo gulch]

All this to die to his own attack 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[royal orchid]

wait this one's amazing too

[pseudo gulch]

And that's gonna be everything he gets

[hot cairn]

also, what would you guys rate Elbaph so far?

[royal orchid]

8/10

no glaze

[dark nymph]

7

[restive wedge]

7

[gritty shuttle]

Old man yaoi...

[iron oriole]

Love Zoro's shit eating grin here

[soft tangle]

Oda made usopp and kidd lose the same #NOTICING

[graceful grove]

6.5/10

[leaden sapphire]

ok well ussop has had negligible screen time anyway

[urban lodge]

Ngl it dropped by a whole point for me after this chapter

[leaden sapphire]

it was supposed to be his arc

but well..

[pine scaffold]

Pre flashback: 6/10
Flashback: 9/10
Post flashback: 5/10

[hot cairn]

I would give it a 7 too

[gritty shuttle]

It was a fine chapter what

[hot cairn]

you really dont like this chapter huh LOL

[urban lodge]

Killingham getting offscreened is unbelievably stupid

[odd rune]

It's good, I liked seeing all the Elbaf attacks. Big shame that it's less of a spectacle than I expect oda wanted it to be but regardless I think it works

[restive wedge]

The Luffy and Loki banter actually makes the chapter a 10/10

[pine scaffold]

Is it just me or does this look like fanart

like a meme

[gritty shuttle]

This has happened so mamy times in this series I can't even be bothered to complain about it #tbh

[hot cairn]

yeah he cant fit everything he wants in one chapter

[pine scaffold]

BUT ODA ACTUALLY DREW THIS 😭 😭

[brittle basin]

for oda lately, it's very clean inking

[iron oriole]

The meme potential is high with this panel

[urban lodge]

Well there have been worse chapters in the arc, but it wasn't great

[graceful grove]

btw this panel has increased usopps chance of getting Ragnir by 3%. that rodent has sympathy

[pseudo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-shout-section-speed-black-white-jamshowspeed-gif-11456932537633333258

[pine scaffold]

Would u guys say this arcs pacing has been fast

[cunning narwhal]

Its not the actual panel its an edit of the raws from last night

[odd rune]

If oda drew Elbaf the way he wanted to we'd be here for 101 chapters like Dressrosa & honestly oda already envisioned a story where we skip Elbaf entirely so I'm largely of the belief that we are getting through this arc quickly and putting emphasis on the important things like Loki, the backstory, Saul at the beginning of the arc etc

[pine scaffold]

or do u still disagree with me

[dark nymph]

not just you, its like a panel from a comedy comic

[royal orchid]

sniffing on straight hopium

[brittle basin]

some parts feel quickly paced but then there's long flashback in the middle

[graceful grove]

thats the best thing about op rn. increased pacing

[pine scaffold]

I meant since we came back to the present

not as a whole

my bad sorry

[odd rune]

Stop saying things like this lol, 'is this arcs pacing fast' is a perfectly reasonable thing to say until you victimise yourself and say something equivalent to 'or was I right all along'

[restive wedge]

Oda's doing a 200 iq move by removing every fight so we all bust during the final war

[pine scaffold]

Nah I asked in the past and everyone said it's been fine

so I'm just asking again

[brittle basin]

oh. uh, it seems a bit quickly paced i guess? things are resolving pretty fast i think?

[dark nymph]

skipping the HKs is an L

[odd rune]

Ok carry on I guess I thought it was snottier than it was

Mb

[pine scaffold]

Noooo

😭

[graceful grove]

sb looks more normal now

who replaced the real one?

[dark nymph]

Imu better kill someone next chapter

[pine scaffold]

When you really think about how much we've covered since we got back

Its been quick imo

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/usopp-one-piece-yume-yumeship-riako-gif-5617224723497302037

[tiny oracle]

If Usopp gets back up later and does more this was a goated moment

[pine scaffold]

We beat Sommers and Killingham, figured out how to stop Domi Reversi

[brittle basin]

now that's what i call a theory.

[pine scaffold]

now we are gonna fight Imu

[cunning narwhal]

Ok wait I found the official translation and im getting the impression from this that he plans all these encounters post elbaf to happen this year, and he’ll speed though everything to get to them

[brittle basin]

chopper

[hot cairn]

it just doesnt feel like this is the climax

[royal orchid]

people keep forgetting oda is a hack for some reason

[tiny oracle]

Í hope the Im vs Loki and Luffy fight is at least a couple of chapters

[dense rapids]

Burn scar is appearing within 15 chapters

Screenshot this

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-wow-yay-omg-really-gif-15731645

[pine scaffold]

I think at least 2

[brittle basin]

.......i forgot all about burnscar

[pine scaffold]

I can't really see Oda doing extended fights like the old days

but it would be nice

[hot cairn]

Oda's timing isnt good there's things he has said in other jump festa messages that havent happened yet

[runic dock]

Interesting

[celest mauve]

I don't think the way usopp went down is that bad

imu seemed to have forced usopp to fire

[runic dock]

I love all the extended fights in drum island

[celest mauve]

like usopp hesitates when imu gets up close, but then imu says "fire" and then the explosion occurs

[runic dock]

Live action tho

Not manga fuck that

[vital heart]

I TRANSLATED THE WHOLE CHAPTER THIS WEEK FOR TCB

Let me know if you have any comments, questions, concerns, or criticisms!

[pine scaffold]

The LA is much more enjoyable than the manga so far

ik thats a bit controversial ngl

[runic dock]

BRO

[pine scaffold]

WHAT

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

[brittle basin]

11/10. No notes.

[cunning narwhal]

Wasn’t his 2025 jump festa message talking about the strawhats going to elbaf? He got that one right

[brittle basin]

season 2 is wonderful

[pine scaffold]

I thought u was about to scream at me then lol

[runic dock]

The opposite

[graceful grove]

i have a question. where is the next chapter?

[runic dock]

You’re one of the few that gets it

[pine scaffold]

I love reading manga, but I do much prefer movies and show formats

[dense rapids]

How would we react IF Usopp actually dies

[pine scaffold]

I feel like mostly everyone does tho

[grand flower]

Hi sb @pine scaffold

[pine scaffold]

Hi

There's a reason some people still dont watch anime/read manga

but still watch movies etc

[runic dock]

Usually , probably, it’s just live action adaptations left a salty taste in everyone’s mouth and rightfully so

[brittle basin]

crazy how brutal this attack is.

[dark nymph]

if op anime was peak i'd never read the manga

[graceful grove]

ill adopt the goda tag forever

[runic dock]

Good thing there’s the live action

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-reaction-flight-reacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-gif-14526489174047821058

[runic dock]

If that dude was a normal giant , he’d have split their head the same

Crazy

[pine scaffold]

Ngl I consider the Live Action the more definitive version at this point

Since Oda has been working closely and he's adding little things which elevates the story

even back then

planting seeds with Nika etc

it makes the story feel much more connected in a way

[runic dock]

And fixing things and killing characters

[celest mauve]

"definitive version" with the way the characters are treated? hell no

weak-ass luffy, bland sanji, too-serious nami etc.

[runic dock]

they’re better now

Sanji isn’t a perv

Thank god

They fixed Sanji

[pine scaffold]

Yeah imma be real the sanji gags ain't it man

he got fixed

[celest mauve]

lol that's still not oda's sanji

[dark nymph]

its an acceptable fun version, but to say its better than the manga sections overall is wild to me idk

[runic dock]

Oda is a perv then I think people are happy with the change

[odd rune]

ive never been able to understand how oda can draw a manga chapter in one week but this chapter looks like it was drawn in one week does that make sense

[dense rapids]

Chopper literally did the reverse of what Imu did

[odd rune]

i can believe it now

[ashen perch]

You're assuming that the arc has to end for these encounters when it doesn't, Imu and Luffy itself is one of the encounters

[odd rune]

this chapter looks worse than the chapter he didnt even finish in the kuma flashback

not even slandering here im just being fr

no doomer here no siree

[brittle basin]

season 2 is great, that includes both sanji and usopp, elevated by fantastic acting skills. inaki is the issue when it comes to acting. and no it's definitely not some definitive version, that's SB baiting.

[dark nymph]

what panel stands out as bad to you?

[pine scaffold]

nah im kinda serious

Oda is working with the LA extremely closely

[brittle basin]

don't lie to meeeeeeee

[runic dock]

It’s a moving pieces chapter and developing plot points and those are always messy to me

[pine scaffold]

if there was something in there he didnt like, they'd remove it

[celest mauve]

also baratie and arlong park were butchered so badly, they're a disgrace to their OG manga versions

[grand flower]

I heard Alvida knocked Luffy out with her club lmfao

Luffy is super powered down I’ve heard

[celest mauve]

yeah she legit one-shot him

[grand flower]

He told Arlong he was weaker

[runic dock]

Sacrifices must be made , goodbye krieg

[grand flower]

Crazy shit

[brittle basin]

you can tell the budget was put on the earlier fights in season 2 though lol

[runic dock]

He wasn’t knocked out so no

[brittle basin]

but not the final ones

[grand flower]

Krieg was needed for why Sanjis joined fr

[pine scaffold]

Krieg still looked great

[urban lodge]

Baratie wasn't that bad

[brittle basin]

baratie was nice

[urban lodge]

Arlong Park was awful though

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/don-krieg-not-bad-one-piece-live-action-wow-gif-5729231549210468687

[urban lodge]

Reaaaally bad

[runic dock]

Luffy was just letting shit happen to him in loguetown like the manga

[graceful grove]

would be amazing if imu just slaps luffy and loki away and immediately shifts focus on chopper because of this

[brittle basin]

once you learn to accept the LA as its own separate thing, the better you'll be

it simply cannot replicate the manga 1:1

and usopp season 2 is so good, so good

[runic dock]

Sure maybe, but developing Arlong more instead was fine enough as well , Sanji’s story has more room to grow , in drum island they even included him telling the story about feeding his mother sora

[graceful grove]

LA is just a little side dish for OP fans

[odd rune]

none of them are bad they're just all so non-detailed. this is the most detailed panel in the chapter and it looks pretty fantastic but just go and really look at the rest they're not very involved compared to oda's ability imo. particularly the amount of white space and simple panels

[pine scaffold]

People who never read OP or watched it loved the Arlong park arc in LA

[runic dock]

Yes it can

[latent hamlet]

plus lets be real
some LA ideas were probably oda's ideas

[runic dock]

Wait you said replicate

[cunning narwhal]

And you’re assuming that the arc wont end and we’ll cut away to those people? That sentence about the encounters was after oda was talking about the possibility of the sh leaving elbaf and arriving at lodestar

[runic dock]

Yeah nah

[latent hamlet]

he probably was like "...now if i had a 2nd try i might wanna do this"

[runic dock]

It can replace tho

[brittle basin]

we're gonna have to resurrect Merry

[odd rune]

also im sure everyone has already lost their minds about this but wtf is this

is that his hammer

[lime terrace]

I feel it like 5 chapter before macks

[runic dock]

Lmao I misread my bad , it can REPLACE

[dark nymph]

I've felt that way about the detail in most chapters, I've just accepted that Oda's art will never be the same and we're gonna get a few amazing panels here and there

[urban lodge]

His helmet somehow like fused with his head? It's really weird lol

[lime terrace]

People calling oda washed might be true

[odd rune]

i swear it might be the top of the hammer ?? considering ragnir is right next to it

[brittle basin]

one thing i especially love in the LA are the crew interactions. super fun

[runic dock]

Oda giving himself a second and third chance with the anime remake and the live action

[dark nymph]

eye surgery did nothing

[torn stirrup]

Its Loki's helmet

[runic dock]

Sanjis cooking CHOPPERS DOCTORING

[pine scaffold]

Oh yeah they did Chopper really well in the LA

They cooked

[pine ridge]

everyone should be washed. you dont want to stink up everyplace you go

[lime terrace]

He shouldn't be involved in something if that ruin the original source

[latent hamlet]

heavy point actually giving off more monster vibes which fits

[brittle basin]

shit had me in tears, so beautiful

[runic dock]

It’s not ruining the source BECAUSE he’s involved in it

The cowboy bebop creator said heREGRETS not being involved in the live action

[dense rapids]

Helmet

[pine scaffold]

AND U SAYING IT AINT REPLACING THE MANGA 😭

cmon

[odd rune]

i sort of dont understand how thats his helmet

[latent hamlet]

he's heavily involved in it

so if anything you're saying "oda your involvement is trash"

[brittle basin]

maaaan who gives a fuck if it does its own thing. let the LA take risks. fuck this safety "be like the manga" shit

[torn stirrup]

....well this has to be one of the most obscure pulls the LA did, apparently the guy with the mace that Zoro fights in the LA version of Whiskey Peak is from....a china-exclusive mobile game?

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Hercules

[urban lodge]

Idk either but his helmet had a part that looked just like that

[runic dock]

Respectable risks that still respect source material is okay , not completely veering off course like cowboy bebop did

[pine ridge]

exactly, if they tried being like the manga it would be so ass

[latent hamlet]

also here's another thing to talk about the LA

a good amount of stuff Oda probably was doing at east blue, he was like "THIS SHIT AINT GONNA LAST THIS LONG PROBABLY"

[pine scaffold]

I find it funny how Oda realised he made shit way too long, so they gotta cut stuff for the LA lol

[pseudo gulch]

I don't either, but I'm afraid that's everything he's going to do for the arc

[latent hamlet]

its harder to have an authentic 1 to 1 when for all we know Oda is probably thinking "i would redo it if i can rewrite it"

[ashen perch]

The sequence of the sentences doesn't really matter, he's obviously talking about the year as a whole

[latent hamlet]

for all we know, One Piece anime remake might have Oda's revised ideas that he had later on

[lime terrace]

It kinda does

[latent hamlet]

bro just say that you think Oda is ruining his own stuff lol

[pine scaffold]

I do think we might see massive changes in the remake

[pine ridge]

how? it's not canon anyway

[lime terrace]

I think you're missing my point

[runic dock]

Idk it’s been pretty great to me , I’m a one piece fan of the manga primarily since 2004

[dark nymph]

I don't think Oda is as involved as yall are making him out to be

[runic dock]

I have street cred , and I say it’s not ruining anything

[lime terrace]

I'm talking about the manga brother

[latent hamlet]

ye im expecting a decent amount of the retroactive retcons so to speak

Barto is probably gonna be in Loguetown

[cunning narwhal]

Why doesn’t it? He can talk about the events of the year in sequence

[pine scaffold]

nah he is lmao, he literally takes breaks to work on the LA

he said so himself

[brittle basin]

Oda probably gives his opinion or thoughts, though I doubt he's controlling production or editing scripts, reshoots, etc.

[torn stirrup]

I think its important that it feels like it's still aware it's a different and disconnected version of the story, like yes it does add and change stuff with the context of hindsight but it doesn't feel to me like it's Oda trying to "fix" the original story

[pine ridge]

the LA is ruining the manga?

[urban lodge]

Zoro is the first mate in the live action so it's the true canon

[torn stirrup]

compared to something like the recent adaptation of percy jackson

idk

[pine ridge]

again how

[runic dock]

They do run ideas by him , and some of the writing team is just in tune with the story as someone on the level as me , there’s a guy named Randy Troy

[latent hamlet]

meanwhile...

"So Oda was hanging out with like every actor for like the past 6 months"

[gloomy tree]

how is it ruining the source?

[brittle basin]

of course it's not ruining the manga. by defintion it can't. it's a separate thing altogether.

[dark nymph]

for the literate thats always been the true canon

[brittle basin]

if anything, the LA is making more people become fans of the manga or anime

[lime terrace]

Oda heavy involvement with this and that ruin his manga writing, panel getting chopped, art becomes worse, story becomes dull

[gloomy tree]

as it was intended

[latent hamlet]

THE LEGENDARY

"i wanna get into One Piece kinda. how long is it"
"a 1000 episodes/chapters"
"Fuck off"

[gloomy tree]

[brittle basin]

he ain't so involved that it interferes with the manga. The Rocks flashback is testament to that

[runic dock]

Oh is that what you meant? That’s a different point altogether then

Lmao

[pine ridge]

yeah sure

[brittle basin]

ez gg

[dark nymph]

hey ive heard this one before

[lime terrace]

You guys just don't understand, take a step back, see one piece as it is now, I'm still a big fan up until the flashback, when that ends, the story progressing badly

[gloomy tree]

no, not really

[brittle basin]

what does "heavy involvement" mean? what details do any of us know about the literal tangible things he does with the LA?

[distant vine]

No LA adaptation, good or bad "ruins the original source"

[pine ridge]

the LA finished filming before the flashback ended

[gloomy tree]

exactly lol

[latent hamlet]

bro thinks LA is actively making oda's writing skills devolve

[dark nymph]

none, they are all just giving their assumptions that mf signs off on a few decisions here and there at most

[runic dock]

He’s putting all his good ideas in there instead now 😔

[brittle basin]

you can't blame the LA anyways because people have been complaining about Oda's writing since Fishman Island.

[gloomy tree]

people always complain

[brittle basin]

so true

[distant vine]

Oh well I'll just disagree with this

There'a a reason why when he needs to he'll take a break. Any reduction in quality is 1000x more likely to be age/burnout than a busier schedule

[latent hamlet]

art and panel work is one thing

but manga writing?

do u think that he's tainting his own brain because U HAVE TO THINK ABOUT LA WRITING

YOU'RE NOT FOCUSING YOUR CREATIVE JUICES

[ashen perch]

He doesn't, that is the thing. If there was any sequence to it, we wouldn't still be waiting for that man and that man to have a long awaited clash and for that man to finally shake the world despite being years away from those statements. The red haired guy's move wouldn't be teased a full year before he even teases the climax of the arc. Oda just hints at things about the future, it can be the near future, it can be the far future and it can be even further. There's no order to it, never.

[brittle basin]

if you don't like Oda's recent writing, blame Oda's current skills. it's as simple as that.

[distant vine]

Yeah I just cant understand having problems with Oda right now that you attribute to...right now

Most complaints start around FMI

[lime terrace]

Let this be a bookmark in the future when you do realize oda is losing his touch, when you ready to admit it

[dark nymph]

one piece sucks after time skip

[distant vine]

And is the quality of FMI era OP and Elbaph era OP so vast?

[brittle basin]

and fishman island was not the strongest arc either

[dark nymph]

remember when Zoro used to laugh

[ashen perch]

Most complaints actually started from the beginning, because the story has never been complaint-less

[distant vine]

He's given me fire Shanks and Zoro moments, 10/10 no further comments

[ashen perch]

You can ask any older fan here, they'd be able to confirm that the story was literally always considered to be worse than it used to be

[distant vine]

Imagine people dooming around like Amazon Lily

"Its over, Oda got rid of all the SH's and now the story sucks"

[brittle basin]

heh. back in my day.....

[runic dock]

Oda fell off syrup village is ass

Skip skypeia

[ashen perch]

East blue nostalgia in Alabasta, Alabasta nostalgia in Skypiea, Skypiea nostalgia in Long Ring Long Land, you get the idea.

[torn stirrup]

I'll have to find it again but I believe I found an archive of doomposting from around when Marineford was ongoing

[ashen perch]

You'd be right

[pine ridge]

and if he does it wont be because of the LA

[brittle basin]

what's that one command where the guys keeps saying oda is back

[ashen perch]

Marineford had a ton of fans who really really missed when things were simple and chill and about the crew

[coral vapor]

I wonder if during Water 7/Enies Lobby the fans glazed Alabasta

[dark nymph]

send that shit please

[distant vine]

I just dont see what you complain about thats not an issue to you 10 years ago haha

[dark nymph]

in general I was looking for ppl doomposting in forums just to get some perspective

[distant vine]

Maybe Haki I guess. Its pretty rough now

[runic dock]

It was th second best arc next to water 7 Enies lobby

[ashen perch]

The crew thing especially, I saw people complain about that in older forums lol

[latent hamlet]

hey guys
enies lobby is fucking trash u know that
luffy came up with all these fucking forms out of nowhere
oda is washed

[pine ridge]

no long ring long land nostalgia tho

[latent hamlet]

[mighty quarry]

I can't believe I have to read "Oda is washed" comments after reading the best chapter this year yet

[latent hamlet]

we just need to rinse and repeat these complaints for each arc

[runic dock]

ikr

[pine ridge]

ass pull powerups

[runic dock]

Funnily enough , nobody mentioned assoull power ups back then even tho they did happen

[brittle basin]

Gear 2, more like Gear Poo

[hot cairn]

do you guys really believe OP has gotten worst Post Time Skip?

[runic dock]

Enies lobby was too glazed for that

[dark nymph]

were there ppl who actually thought that

[latent hamlet]

guys LA shouldnt have removed don krieg

ahem
WTF U MEAN LUFFY CAN PUNCH THROUGH SUPER STRONG STEEL ARMOR AND AN EXPLOSIVE SPEAR? HE SHOULDNT BE THIS STRONG SO EARLY, TRASH WRITING ODA

[fallen meteor]

whats the command for oda is back

[dark nymph]

like gear 2 haters

[distant vine]

Overall no, I like Post TS more

[fallen meteor]

!endofarc

[tropic nova]

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[runic dock]

No , in some ways it’s better

[distant vine]

There are some aspects I think is worse

[brittle basin]

WCI is the best arc in the whole series. i was not too happy with FMI though. so it's a mixed bag

[ashen perch]

I remember Greg mentioned that a complaint that it was too Battle-Shonen-y existed though

[distant vine]

Like if someone says the power systems and the crew overall have degraded

[dark nymph]

generally its gotten better

[runic dock]

WCI goated all time

[pine ridge]

no, just different

[latent hamlet]

i think some people prefer the STYLE of pre timeskip, where it was a bit more "fuck around and find out"
whereas post timeskip was more "we're gunning for it"

[distant vine]

I'll give some respect to those arguments

[hot cairn]

this chapter was good

[celest mauve]

pros and cons, some cons for me include how nearly every arc gets dragged in terms of length and how bloated the cast feels in them too

[dark nymph]

I must be an npc cause I liked every single op arc ever

[distant vine]

I feel the exact opposite. I loved the structure of this Emperor's Saga

[safe cove]

it's getting better

[hot cairn]

fair

[ashen perch]

10/10 chapter I won't be convinced otherwise

[runic dock]

Could’ve been the Japanese side of things? In some online message boards this is where people were converting Naruto fans to one piece fans lol

[hot cairn]

in what ways?

[latent hamlet]

i think timeskip was basically at the time where Oda has more of a solid plan for the future
cuz lets be real
do u guys think oda really had more concrete plans pre-timeskip

[mighty quarry]

It's not that they've degraded necessarily... just become more simplistic than they used to be. Which is hilarious after introducing different levels of advanced haki

[latent hamlet]

remember when we learned about the 4 directional seas
which REALLY doesnt matter?

[mighty quarry]

You'd expect it to get more intricate

[latent hamlet]

the 7 warlords that some believed luffy would have to fight all of em

only fought 2 in pre timeskip lol

[hot cairn]

I was wayyyyyyyyyy too hyped for FMI during my binge so my expectations got the better for me during that arc, didnt enjoy it on a first read

[pine ridge]

those will matter fs

[latent hamlet]

ah yes, WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE WEST BLUE

TO SHANKS HOME

AND THEN THE NORTH BLUE FOR....
idunno

chopper's secret family?

[pine ridge]

well not like that necessarily, but overall lore and history

[ashen perch]

Possible, he just mentioned that this was the arc where people started feeling like the series was losing its identity and becoming fully battle oriented. The power levels (doriki), random powerups, a billion fights, etc.

[hot cairn]

I agree with this

[runic dock]

Scope bigger , stakes larger , word lore has grown , more diverse characters , power system in place and not in a to be determined state, there is nostalgia for the simpler times but it has to be understood to a certain level as the shounen is approaching its later half , things can’t always remain calm in this setting

[hot cairn]

it's jus different

[torn stirrup]

omfg lmao

[knotty pilot]

there aren't any stakes

[runic dock]

AINT SHIT CHANGED LMAO

[ashen perch]

Marineford from what I know, had the main complaint of "Where the hell is the crew ⁉️⁉️⁉️"

[brittle basin]

Warp

[runic dock]

The world is at stake , the claim for it

[dark nymph]

Anyone else think he beat Killingham rather easily?

[ashen perch]

Like people did NOT like the absence of the crew at alllll

[hot cairn]

pre time skip has it charms yes but so does post

[mighty quarry]

What if this arc ends with Luffy managing to banish Imu, but then Imu kills Gunko remotely (like they did Saturn) and she dies in Brook's arms after her mental flashback and answers. Making things even more personal

[dense haven]

every chapter there is oda slander

one piece is truly finished

[dark nymph]

and now its a top 3 arc for most fans

[runic dock]

There is something to be said about the art style of pre timeskip tho yeah , it was more bold and crisp

[hot cairn]

I'm an npc too lol

[runic dock]

Maybe it’s the result of age

[hot cairn]

I'm on the believe that OP doesnt really have bad arcs just "fine" ones

[knotty pilot]

still no stakes/tension

[wraith mantle]

Next chapter one piece will return to being peak

[ashen perch]

The fanbase has turned into Spice so sadly this is why I have to mention that we need to nuke them every chapter 😔

[ashen perch]

Yea well, it was loved a lot back then too. But that was still an issue

[knotty pilot]

are you enjoying the arc?

[runic dock]

For luffy? No , for others? Yes absolutely still , it has to be shown that luffy is a yonko now , these aren’t stressful situations as before hes a yonko , he’s one of the strongest people in the series now and his crew is one of the tightest, this has to be portrayed

[dark nymph]

are you having fun

[prisma yacht]

Goys

[native seal]

are you winning son

[prisma yacht]

P1

[pine ridge]

I used to not believe this until I read the manga versions

[prisma yacht]

P2

[wraith mantle]

I enjoyed the arc up till the end of flashback

Since then my enjoyment hasn’t been strong, maybe it’s me tho.

[ashen perch]

Marineford was mega popular back when it came out, and it was drawing in a lot of new fans. There was just a section of the OG fanbase that was feeling like it wasn't what they fell in love with lol

[prisma yacht]

@zweibelfee twitter

[ashen perch]

See, as if one Spice wasn't bad enough

[wraith mantle]

Is this a slur?

[ashen perch]

He meant guys

[prisma yacht]

^

[wraith mantle]

Unlucky typo

[brittle basin]

-we just saved the children with the parents willing to die with them
-parts of Elbaf are still on fire, but we saved the library at least
-a number of giants still need to be un-domi'd
-we just took care of the dream monsters (i think)
-Imu just issued a threat which could be big or not

[prisma yacht]

ok but what about the bb art

[wraith mantle]

Are you implying the last few chapters are peak?

[torn stirrup]

one of the oldest i've found

[ashen perch]

Yes

[brittle basin]

There are stakes, but whether we like them or not is another thing altogether

[wraith mantle]

Interesting

[dark nymph]

if also manga existed back then it would probably be that section

[knotty pilot]

ofc luffy is strong but it could still have more stakes

[wraith mantle]

Maybe I just lost interest in one piece

[mighty quarry]

I care about a library almost burning down

[pine ridge]

this comment could be from today

[brittle basin]

There are stakes, but I do agree that there isn't as much tension

[mighty quarry]

[pine ridge]

some things never change

[hot cairn]

yeah it's a completely different story in the anime tho lol, pace is abysmal

[prisma yacht]

don't you think this chapter was very very very fast paced

[dark nymph]

what does pms mean

[torn stirrup]

Omg this thread has old broken links to scanlations by Stephen Paul

[brittle basin]

we should. that's extremely important info from Ohara

[knotty pilot]

yeah the flashback overall was nice. loki is great too. i don't like shamrock as a character tho

[cunning narwhal]

Ok yeah those are good points lol

[pine ridge]

yeah my first time reading fmi I was kinda shocked by how much I enjoyed it

[ashen perch]

I think not feeling Imu's threat is genuinely just odd, Oda's done everything right with him and the fandom influenced brain inside you is just struggling to see it because you've been convinced that the MC won't be looking bad when he gets humiliated all the time

[torn stirrup]

...in the context i'm guessing it's short for pre-menstrual syndrome? basically a dumb way of saying that Usopp is acting emotional

[wraith mantle]

I disagree, I love shamrocks character quite a bit

[runic dock]

Aura farming character

[dark nymph]

dang

[cunning narwhal]

Nah the flashback was the peak of elbaf imo

[solid stone]

that's the fun part about going through old discussion threads

[brittle basin]

i personally feel imu's threat. i was speaking about this particular, probably game-changing, threat he issued at the end.

[solid stone]

you quickly realize how cyclical a lot of talking points here are

[fallen meteor]

i'm basically on reverse
i was losing interest on one piece when the flashback was going too far and now that we are back i'm really into it again

[mighty quarry]

Also a byproduct of weekly reading. I find that binge reading an arc has plenty of tension and build up

[hot cairn]

yoo Zyph! what did you think of the chapter?

[solid stone]

still think about that sabaody thread with someone speculating a CD character would become a straw hat lol

[mighty shell]

one piece at its worst is most series' pretty good

[solid stone]

hi jesu

i started it but in a crappy mood rn so not sure if i'll fully read it just yet