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Wonder if they forgot to actually update the data 😭
Yeah sorry and for me that don't add up and it's really not cus they always have a fleet of admirals and use the calm belt with specified ships
Apparently it's data from the week before the last
Like to me your missing that the bridges changes absolutely nothing
Really? Was shanks in top 5 previously?
Where does it say?
So it's reaaaaaally outdated probably
is the entire op world in the calm belt or at some point do you have to risk the weird weather patterns, even if you are in a sea stone lined ship that's invisible to the sea kings?
Namibros
Yeah in Africa
CDs don't really have to risk anything
Or they just continuing to remain in top
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the wekk before the last
Clam belt does not have that happen
Nigga what? I thought we were supposed an updated list today
That why it's called the calm belt
I am confused
It's data from the first few days of voting
Lameeee
It did supposedly, but it's not real time data
just sailing in the ocean is a risk is what i'm saying. there are giant sea monsters literally everywhere in the world. the sea stone lined ships only protect you from something underneath you looking up. if not the giant sea monsters, it'll be a sudden whirlpool forming in the midst of a blizzard dropping icebergs
It's stupid as fuck
Sea kings won't attack because of the ships they have have sea stone on the bottom
I'll probably add to that number, just not yet.
They probably haven’t been able to figure out the voting issue
would you rather take a boat with the risk of monster attacks and wild wacky weather, or chill in a carriage perfectly safe
Who did you vote for today
They use the calm belt. None of that happens it just doesn't have any waves or air to push the ships
Ryunosuke
And sea kings will attack if you don't have the right ship
the entire OP world is not in the calm belt. We have seen CDs in places other than calm belt
they don't really have any need to go down to the surface unless its to like flex & buy a slave etc, CDs don't take that risk that comes with the sea
The whole reason the onep xe world is hard to traverse is the red line and calm belt
at least very rarely
That's why people use reverse mt
wait this top hot 5 ranking is just the same as the one that was briefly shown before lol
They could just cross the calm belt but
Yeah
except when a CD came to Luffy/Ace/Sabo's hometown. Or to Fishman Island (probably one of THE most dangerous islands to try and reach).
It's too dangerous
It's apparently data from 2 weeks back?
Which is extremely stupid
yeah its gotta be that
What's the point
Is it flooded none of those exist anymore
i must've missed the first day, 'cause I'm always one day behind you
they should be updating these hourly
rare cases of it happening sure but its not the norm
😂😂
they did
in the first worldwide poll
they were posting hourly updates and it was a ton of fun to keep up with, this just sucks
I guess they just released this data before by mistake
It's data from like the first day or so of voting if it's from 2 weeks back
Maybe the top 5 in all these regions haven't changed even after a week
really doubt it lol, it just wasnt meant to be released back then
the date was listed at 16th march all along
Nvm, didn't know this
Not on my watch
Sanji seems like he'll make Top 3. Sad
I really don't get what the point of releasing super old data is
This nigga really cataloging
still happens. so given they both hate the surface but still sometimes go there, and that the flooding will not be an instantaneous thing if/when it continues, there will be some more hundred years potentially before most of the current islands become uninhabitable. so the bridges serve the dual purpose i described
if you wanna go real into the weeds it's pretty likely they'll take slaves and place them in an area separate from the CDs to keep like... breeding stock or some such IF the world ever got to the point of being that flooded, which would still leave the sea kings with the run of the planet, and there's no guaranteeing the calm belt would even exist after that much change in the world's oceans
Bruh
why aren't you?
Are we supposed to
fake fan
Got gold vivi
it's only useful if you're voting one person each day and they are always different
Oh yea see i aint doing allat
Gotta remind people that when they try to challenge my tastes they lose 😂
i don't want to vote the same person over and over again, that's far too boring
Nigga is that Carrot
Prison
Duh
I just vote which character popped in my head at that time whom i like
Throw away the key
even if we say it'll take 100 years before they flood the world to that level, the bridges wont be finished by then... its already been 700 years & there doesn't seem to be an end to them
carrot WILL be getting to the top 10
oh yeah isn’t the weekly ranking supposed to update today
i do that with a combination of going through a list of all the characters to remind me of ones i might not be thinking about
You botting for them too
Idk what time but yea I think so
So many whites lol
It's exactly the same as before because they released it by mistake earlier
And it's 2 week old results, which is certainly a choice
dang
imagine botting lmfao, that's kind of sad
us carrot fans don’t need bots, unlike luffy, zoro, nami, robin, rocks, rosinante, ace, and sabo fans
I say the same shit when I go to Target
Why is Rosinante on this list
i'm not saying it's the smartest use of labor or resources, but it's pretty obvious WHY they're doing it.
You mad he's popular?
Fair enough, for me yesterday someone was talking about makino and I remember i liked her so i voted. Today someone said vivi and i like her so i voted. Doing same everyday 😂
Cause people love him
I dont think Rocks is getting botted thats just pure love
he ain’t that cool…
Say that again but this time mean it
Got a gold Croc
Saddest death in OP
imu seems to be immortal for all intents and purposes so the only times when they'd feel anything close to a rush is like... the current circumstances of the story where Joyboy is back
Rocks mogged Imu and somehow isn’t top 1 voted
Yasuie begging to differ ngl
as long as you stay true to your heart homie
Isn't it better to get white for whitebeard?
it sounds nice on paper, but everyone likes gold
Top in 3 Regions last i check we definitely getting into the Top 30
death so jacked up it had zoro shook
niggas will say rocks is top 5 because bots, recency bias, propaganda, but they will never admit its because he is a genuinely popular character lmao
I will vote for wb tommorrow, will see my luck
Carrot tho?
I wonder who i will vote for tomorrow. Amande and Toko and Senor Pink have popped into my head recently
Its called "cope"
Well it is recency bias
He is most certainly popular
so the staff account has confirmed that the data in the hot top 5 is from March 4th to March 8th only.
That doesn't translate to being a good character though
vote Tama
Whats your beef with her
more like it
We need Goatbeard top 10
Lol
Yessssirrrr
Good choices except one
They are seemingly just going to release all the rankings with a long delay I guess
actually I might vote Boa tomorrow. she is a good character in all honesty
So dumb
really sucks
Theyre all good
2 weeks old results
wasnt that the same data they released before?
Nah, tama is mid. Rest are good
it is
Other thaj her Sulong form and her Pedro Pascal connection idc much for her
like???? am i missing something
tama solos kaido wdym
Kicking cats = based
this is truly fucking stupid
if they were doing such a long delay, they could have added the mail in votes too for X period of days, smh they lazy
Idk what to say. I cant help you man
Toko probably deserves everyone's vote. poor thing
They just released it early by mistake
eat dango pet dragon
you're next on her list
ohhh
can see it here on the graphic
LMAO
Yeah they do that and then reveal what happened by Ebisu. Genuine top 10 Wano moment
4th march to 8th march only
Not asking for help 🙄
LETS GOOOOOOO
Who invited shanks to top 5
thats for Africa
i wouldn't be surprised if Rocks makes top 10. He left a huge lasting impression. He oozes charisma more than most
the staff account didnt post the worldwide one, unfortunately
i normally hate it when you find out a tragic story after someone's already died, but man being as confused as zoro was in that moment really added a lot
but but... the powerscalers like him!!!
I should vote Fisher Tiger and not Shanks simply out of revenge
@hazy turret
Dang
MY GLORIOUS KING
bellemere is tomorrow's vote
Yeah it’s really well done, does a good job of putting the viewer in the same confusion of Zoro like you said
You are from africa?
Show me ur list buffy
I like Rocks 'cause he's a badass dude. i don't solely vote on power alone. I think a rare case in which I did was Whitebeard, but he's also just a great father figure, willing to stand death in the face for his hot-headed son, and had a lasting impact on the story by fueling people's desire for the one piece again.
No, but i do bless the rains down there
I guess they're doing this to prevent vote manipulation? But it's such a dumb solution
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I read the scene but never actually watched it
how many days has voting been going on?
🤔
So in all the regions top 3 are same?
Bruhhh gama pyonnosuke isnt available
13
whens the estrid vote
Ah u gave it to katakuri yesterday
yeah, after rereading WCI it's hard not to like kata
brooke running up full of arrows sends me
he is, his name is TOAD BOINGNOSUKE
Begone witch
guy is so ally coded it hurts
cares for his family, has great honor in battle, loves brulee
eventually, i'm sure my votes will come down to design aesthetics, 'cause there's only so many characters whose stories or other narrative features draw me to them
however, the thought of luffy eating a mountain of katakuri's flesh is still some body horror stuff mid-fight
amirite @buoyant comet
That boy clay is done
at least biscuit only made things, katakuri's mochi IS his body
that can't be sanitary
He's not coming back

katakuri probably tastes nice
😳
He is not
not intangible, but mochi has the properties of both rubber and food
Not intangible
But immune to normal attacks
so if luffy's awakening lets him turn his surroundings and even people into rubber, what happens if katakuri awakens and then luffy gets hungry
what if luffy ate all of katakuri would he get the DF like with big mom
so many mochi mysteries
Katakuri is already a awakened user
Does it even have necessary nutrients?
ah, think luffy's ability to affect other organic stuff is unique to him?
i have no idea
i mean luffy acted like it nourished him so i guess?
Because luffy is mythical zoan
He is the only character confirmed to awaken as a mythican zoan i think?
Did i miss anyone?
Personally i don't like the freedom power and luffy always laughing needlessly, i like the cartoony stuff though
Yeah the Nika fruit is the only zoan in the story that is locked behind an awakening
Only mythical zoan*
There are other zoan awakenings
like yamatos 
I meant the Nika fruit is the only fruit that has a zoan transformation locked behind an awakening
Yamato is mythical zoan but not confirmed awakened
Who'd you vote for today?
😂😂
Thats true
Zoan users and mythical zoan users can access their forms right away
Vivi, got gold
I guess it’s just one of those fruits that has its own rules, like how Blackbeard is different to other logia’s
Because stuff doesn’t go through him
You voting for mihawk is not shocking
Sengoku and all are not awakened right? Other human human mythical fruits got the transformation for their model without awakening
Sengoku, that sword stealer in wano
Send the full meme
Yeah chopper and Sengoku don’t seem to be awakened, they also lack the scarf thingy that appears when you awaken
But the scarf thingy might be a little shakey
Did Oda specify whether Killingham was awakened or not?
Because he also has the scarf, and Oda made sure to mention an awakening for Lucci when his happened
Buffy? 
I mean sengoku was like the first one to be talked about being awakened

Chopper is not mythical. But sengoku and sword stealer fox in wano are mythical human fruit
He was? When was this
Mochi donuts
It was in an sbs
No what?
Ah yeah that’s right it wouldn’t apply to him
I don’t remember his fruit being mentioned at all in an SBS tbh
No, i think we should avoid using that cloud thing as awakened. Oda using it as free biscuits
Yeah
That’s fair, there’s also Yamato having it despite not being awakened
I guess it’s just something that could pop up once you awaken
But it isn’t like, the rule or anything
All gorosei had it right?
Yeah. But whatever they got going on is weird
Because they aren’t even devil fruit users
We don't know if they are df or not
They weren’t introduced as devil fruits, only as their yokai forms
Same with Shamrock
Shamrocks power was introduced as “Cerberus”
No fruit name or anything
Ive gotta beat him up man
What about gunko?
She was introduced as the arrow arrow fruit
So yeah she has a fruit
Even for Sommers
And Killingham
But not Shamrock/the Goresei
😂😂😂
Which is def intentional
The same powers imu used on sabo 😂
Lmao
It was actually Imu’s devil tail that stabbed Sabo
Which is crazy lol he got tail diffed
👀
In pretty sure it was Gunko
Idk about this tbh
Don't diss on sabo, he escaped a room from imu and gorosei
@ashen perch @stone tulip @hot cairn
Nah it was from Imu, they transformed when Cobra mentions the D and then they stab him, the anime even empathizes this and has the tail come down from the thrown
What?
Gunko is no where to be seen
They all transformed
Imus tendrils don't look like that
Remember when he fought rocks they were pointed not arrowed
Yes it does
This is identical to what Sabo got stabbed with
We don't know if that's him using Gunkos powers
Imu’s main body was in the room not Gunko’s
Gunko is like his wet nurse
I like this panel, oda should do this more often where the background is something they are talking about
Imu could only use Gunko’s powers if they possess her, again she wasn’t even in the room
It was just Imu
They were probably on th side where the tail came from or the rain didn't come from facing it came from the left
Yeah sorry idk Imu has never used its tail or its powers like that other than. With rocks
My boy escaped this 🥺
This is Imu attacking Cobra in response to what he said
So the tail came from Imu’s main body
Why would it come from the left
Because it extended
Naaa
The anime shows this
It's very clearly Imu
The tail even comes from the throne
Ehh anime means nothing lol
And the manga doesn’t show Gunko or anyone else in the room besides who we saw
Anime has done crazy things but from my perspective that's not Imu
Yeah idk why it’s even up for debate 😭
We still don't know dragon was the one who saved Luffy he wasn't there at that exact moment but he still saved them and we know Gunko is in the area
It's because it's inconsistent
wow rocks had a short time in the top 5
No, Gunko wasn’t in the area until proven otherwise
They were in holy land
exactlly innocent until proven guilty
And usually Gunko is the one in the flower room
And not the throne room
Flower room is like two steps away
He is still in top 5, ranks are not updated
did they not just update
I know it's imu but tbf it kinda looks like gunkos vector arrow
But the inconsistency with Imu taking over is weird so for example when he takes over Saturn I've doesn't look like a devil
That doesn’t prove that she just came in at some point and decided to attack Cobra
It's really stupid, it's data from 2 weeks ago
wait what
Yeah but it's an arrow lol
lmao
Imu transforms here and has a tail that’s identical to the one that stabbed Sabo
Its the same
And we haven't seen Imu with a total other than with Gunko
Imu’s tail is in the shape of an arrow dawg
Like, it’s literally one to one
When Imu took over Saturn was that all imus powers or was he using Saturn
It's from march 4-8
Or is it Gunkos tail
He didn't take over Saturn on god valley, he got through to him with the abyssal traversal ability
Wtf is the difference
did i miss a week or was that not when rocks was in the top 5
So your saying Imu was present on God valley rather than possessing
With Gunko his physical body was present on Mary Geoise. With Saturn his physical body was on god valley
Saturn’s spider form is his own power that was granted by Imu, Gunko hasn’t shown any proof that she can transform into this hybrid devil form without Imu’s possession
Not the same thing
Ye basically
We seen Imu teleport in ?
He is top 5 in 3 regions, europe, middle east and africa
Dude your just making rules up edit this was the wrong way to say this ,
Elaborate
i could’ve sworn he was top 5 in nearly all of them before
but now robin and law are
It was just those 3
No, he was only 3 regions before aswell
huh

This is such a weird way to handle it
They just dont give a fuck
not even a year out of university and my brain is already decomposing
Ace in top 5 is more shocking
THANK YOU
I BEEN TRYNA SAY DAT LIKE BRO
Good to see he’s still poppin
fuck agenda fuck how you feel about certain characters my nigga we havent seen ace physically since wano, how tf is he top 5
Law is justified, he has always been popular
we gonna have ace fb when we reach the heavens realm
ace and rosinante’s legacies still hold strong
It seems like the reason are assumptions we are assuming how or what's going on when alot of it doesn't have any proof either way . Sure Gunko wasn't shown there but ether was dragon when he saved Luffy from buggy but we do know he was on the island just like we know Gunko is on marygeosi and to me I can't not understand why in hell would he attack form the side aslp..so won't else said Imu was present on God valley well than that makes me think when he was using Saturn that's his teu power and whatever are seeing with gunk is Gunkos powers
Ace traveled to elbaf to meet colon in the womb
Why would imus powers shine through more when he was not physically present than when he was actually there on top of Saturn
Bro put his hand to ripleys stomach and colon was born the next day
Yeah that's how people make baby's In onepeice lol
Ace might aswell be the wilt chamberlain of one piece
I do agree that the arrow coming from side is fishy but i won't confirm its from gunko yet 🙄
Could explain why it aint one shot sabo
Why is it fishy
Why are you using Dragon saving Luffy as an example when I’m not even someone who thinks that lightning scene was outright confirmed to be him? And again it’s not even the same thing
Because imu is in front of cobra
He just didn't want to attack from the front
First page shows imu is in front, second page shows arrow coming from side
Huh?
That's just cus someone isn't shown immediately there doesn't mean it can't be a non present character. And it literally is. Dragon is not showing directly saving Luffy infact we see him save him from smoker directly it's the same for Imu and Gunko just because it doesn't show Gunko there doesn't mean it can't be Gunko
Imu is far away from cobra
I'm aware
Do you not think Imu can extend their tail?
The way the total beds is like Gunkos sleeves
No update ?
And I’m saying it’s not Gunko because Imu already has a form with a tail that’s identical to an arrow
It's the same data as before, they just released it early by mistake
Why would Imu power come through more through possession rather than him actually being present
I don't know man, i just think its fishy. Nothing wrong in that
Yeah that remained unchanged
Why did Imu not look like a devil on gods valley but does when he takes over Gunko
Cus that's Gunkos fruit
What?
🤔
He's possessing Gunkos body he's present on Saturn
Because Imu didn’t transform into the devil hybrid on god valley 😭
Just wanna see where Rocks is
The hybrid devil form isn’t Imu’s default state

It’s never been
You still on that theory Shuron ?
That imu saturn transformation is the shittiest design
what?
The god valley form was more parasitic in appearance
Someone just said he came to God valley
Probably a reference to some fungi
Physical
Bones 10k feet below sea level
Davey Jones locker
Imu’s form on god valley truly looked like a black blob
He did end up taking over when leaving tho
Imu did, but they didn’t transform into anything
In the same way with Gunko
Probably related to the contracts
Imu was just sitting on top of Saturn the whole time
And then possessed him at the end
While on the ship
I would assume Abyssal since it comes with anti aging but also because Imu didnt take over Harald
Maybe that’s why Imu had to bait Rocks
Gunko also doesn't age
No grimoire in that form
I wonder if all cds are aware of imu existence
If robin can transform into that devil from I'm pretty sure this is just Gunkos arrow arrow form
I would assume that Gunko had the same treatment as Shakky and the future female straw hats tbh
What
That’s not even the same thing?? Two completely different devil fruits
And if you ask me the way the Imu "tail " looks looks more like Gunkos sleeves
Shakky aged bro
Robin's fruit is spawning body parts tho
Considering how only deep sea and abyss mark knew him then I doubt it
So it's not that weird
Shakky does seem like she aged a bit but gunko looks same
Then how did doffy know as a kid?
She only changed hair styles, that’s not how aging works at all 😭
No but paramecia have the formations Is my point if robin can change to look into. Devil Gunko can use her arrows to make her self look like a devil it's established
If you ask me, it looks closer to the tail
Gunkos is spawning arrows .her tail and her three prongs on her weapon
That’s simply headcanon until shown otherwise
Compare Shakky from recent appearance to flashback Shakky and then you would realize that she didn’t
Which I always thought is what it was
the difference between her and other old women is she achieved what she wanted
She did 🔫
I don’t think he knew as kid but during his time in the underworld
Well how come Saturn was the devil than
Was not
Because Imu didn’t transform into the devil on god valley
How would he know in underworld when only level 2 and level 3 contracts know about it
It’s that simple
is why she isn't portrayed as someone very weak , old and musty
It's a very demonic looking design language because Imu is the literal devil
Yeah idk that's not simple to me
Or it's just Gunkos arrows
You’re just being stubborn man 😭
This is a weird hill to die on
Thats what im getting at, gunko has the abyssal contract
Same as gorosei?
I just don't like it when people tell me I'm seeing Something wrong if I see something there a reason
I wonder how old Gunko was when she first became immortal
Like what age did she freeze at
Because the holy knights seem to age
Then why is gunko called as blade of god if she has level 3 contract?
Gunko is also like Imu do ect servent
Isn't blade of god means level 1?
Direct
She was only a blade of god in rank
yeah the lowest level
Because she already didn't age
gunko had her own special role before joining the god knights program
Then how does she have highest when being referred as lowest?
Nope
That's what we'll find out
Yes
The only problem is that you’re relying on too many assumptions to make your point, we see that Imu transforms into a hybrid devil which has the same tail that stabbed Cobra, so we as the reader should assume Imu was the one who stabbed Cobra
I mean the current common consensus is that imu abnormally favors her more than others
She got highest after god valley? Still fishy considering she was with brook like 70 years ago
You mean Gunko
See that's where I'm not agreeing
Considering what happened with Wapol and Sabo, it isn’t impossible
We don't see Imu physically transform at all he's possessing someone
This is not Gunko this is Imu
Than why does it look like Gunko
🙄
That's possessing
I believe she was injected into the blade of God rank, with her abyssal contract active. She seems to hide her band from view.
She is always hiding her armband with the arrows
So she is just referred as such but secretly she has highest contract?
You’re assuming that Imu must transform every time they possess someone, why?
This literally just looks like Imu using arrow arrows fruit to.me
She's personally attending him even before being introduced as a blade of god
the blade of god stuff is procedure since she’s a new knight
Yeah she clearly had a higher role before becoming a Blade of god
she doesn’t literally have the contract but she has to be one since she’s new to their ranks
So its this case? #also-manga message
Thats what i believe yes
Could be. Hard to tell without her being injured in God Valley
Yeah we need a backstory of her to be explored
Fair assumption i guess
I imagine Imu took her as essentially a slave but she showed combat prowess so he made her a blade of god and eventually a knight
given that she doesn’t age and has regen i think it’s nigh guaranteed she has the same contract as the gorosei
Yeah, when she received damage she is already holy knight
I just feel like Oda hiding her armband makes it clear that she has a different rank from the others. The armband signifies what Level contract they have
though she didn’t get a special transformation
Whatever happened to the theories of gunko knowing ginny 😂
That was a thing? Lol
The demon form we are seeing on elbaf is the transformation. When Imu first took over Saturn, Imu forced Saturn into their Demonic form too
their names do both start with a g…
Thats true
it’s hard to say because we see imu use a devil tail in the throne room against cobra
unless gunko was sitting behind imu in secret lol
Imu was possessing gunko at that very moment
Cus it needs to be explained better whats happening and what Imu powers are doing and tbh I just haven't seen him stab any one else with an arrow like attack but he has stabbed people with tentdrils that look completely different than the tail he used to stabb Saturn and also why wouldn't Imu just Domi Sabo instead of stabbing him than he wouldn't have gotten away ?
decided to swap costumes for fun
Yeah, back when gunko was not revealed as noble and just refered as gunko. People speculated she was same as ginny. They both are friends but later gunko got promoted to holy knights. This is the theory
gunko also already has a fruit so i don’t think she’ll have something like the gorosei
If true, Misleading-silhouette Piece strikes again
i don’t really want the possibility of both a zoan-like and a normal fruit
The thing is why would Gunko do that randomly without Imu ordering it, and with the panel framing it's just so obviously Imu, it happens immediately after Imu hears "Nefertari D. Lili" and squints
So ether shit isn't explained yet or something fishy is going on ie that was not Imu that was Gunko stabbing or else why wouldn't they capture and Domi the second In command of the revs
And Imu was present
That stab on Sabo was supposed to kill him, we can see that it ended up being a critical hit, Sabo could barely move while he was on the ship heading to Lulusia
Unless Oda goes full random shit go. And starts giving the Gorosei their own fruit powers
Not a proxy like with Gunko
Yeah but why not just Domi
in that case poor saturn
free gunko
Than he would t got away
he wasn’t cool enough to get another
What’s the purpose of doing that?
He doesn't get away....
But I believe BB is going to be out Major Fruit focused fights. And Imu and the WG fights will be more focused on Haki
i don’t think there’s a good reason imu didn’t just domi there other than plot or some weakness we aren’t aware of yet
Why do that if you’re going to try and kill him instead
When you add the 2nd strongest revolotionary army member to your personal army 🧘♂️ "What's the purpose?"
it would work well for propaganda too
Honestly with the ability to forcefully domi someone imu really should never lose
He didn't kill him at all
what an awesome ability thank you oda
Killing cobra makes sense since he'd be useless in combat
I don’t think Imu was aiming for that if that’s the attack they decided to go with tbh
I wonder if bb can nullify domi reversi with his fruit.
Contracts seemingly tie into Imu's body or just morality
not domi it seems
Why would it
I’m saying it was likely the aim
just the knight contracts
If it can nullify devil fruit, why not domi reversi?
it depends on if it’s a devil fruit thing
Imu couldn’t reach Sabo after the stab anyway
as of right now we have no clue what the hell imu’s powers are
I mean, we're arguing about why he didnt use domi and decided to kill. It's just
Lots of plot issues with DR introduction sadly
Thats true
That's how he turned xebec over tho he just stabbed him
If what gorosei have is related to devil fruit thing, maybe he can nullify them too
could just be a literal devil zoan, or maybe imu somehow has black magic
Holy sloppa
First, we dont know if Domi is DF related. Second, We don't know how BB's DF works on those affected away from the user, we just know it stops them from using it. For example Hacock turned his men to stone but BB didnt use his fruit to nullify it
blackbeard’s fruit can only disable active abilities (i think)
lol I misread this as something else, that you cant use DR on people with devil fruits and it's true that we havent see that occur yet.. This would crush people's dreams 😭
Actual Magic
There's a precedent that Imu's powerset is more of magic/black magic rather than conventional fruit.
so the voters didnt see the prompt
Bb cannot nullify permanently effected stuff by df.
Boa stone is same as sugar not aging physically and momo aging 20 years 👀
Yeah, we also don’t know if Imu can just use any body part to forcefully inflict Domi reversi anyway, we saw them use weird tentacles on Rocks and the piercing didn’t hurt him at all, seems like it’s more specific than just stab and go
The book may be a book that ate a devil fruit though
law and robin are the only fair picks
ace is in the top 5 in japan
When Hina exists?
they will not let him go
Technically Domi is permanent unless you kill them
One idea I had to why Sabo was not dominos maybe it doesn't work on devil fruit users? Like cus he is insertion there devil into them maybe the devil fruit fends it off?
That was different, the stab on rocks didn’t hurt him at all
Ohhh, DR is not used on devil fruit users yet. Thats a good catch
So than if that's the case I think it's devil fruit related and imus powers in compass the ocean
I still hate that killing the Domi'd people makes them return back to normal... imu lied about immortality
Im saying out of the top 5 in that picture. Hina top 5 tho...maybe
Imu simply just wanted to kill Sabo intruding
It would serve no purpose to Domi him.
"You get regen as long as you dont die" is a mouthful
Shits a bit messy right now
Just kill him off then and there
So DR people don't have regen?
They do
They do.
very wise, the only way to beat an undying person is to kill them
As long as its not enough damage to kill them
How can they be killed with regen?
Just not enough to prevent metaphorical death
Just beheading?
Taking away the 2nd strongest revolutionary army member, and being able to question him is very relevant
Ohhh
For example they could do what gunko did at the start of the arc
You just overpower it.
apparently beheading them doesn’t trigger regen
It should be insta kill move?
domi got a shitty version of the knights regen
Well it’s just speculation for now but lemme ask since we were going in circles, would you admit you’re wrong if Gunko is never able to use that hybrid devil form again without Imu’s control? And also if Imu’s main body transforms into a devil with a tail identical to what we saw in that throne room? That seems to be where we disagree so I just need to make sure
Thats what the HKs are seemingly for.
Oda should have had them use like an Ikoku or something on each other
The domi reversi could be reversed because sanji was on the island.
I assume any big blow on the heart/head will kill
Blow each other away and into peices
i love that we have two distinct but similar regen types now
Well he isnt going to be able to convince sabo to become a HK lol
Imu clearly is overly confident enough to be able to kill revs without resorting a forcible possession on a person who clearly is an intruder.
He wants him dead.
Tbh its just all over the place and its messy. You can bring logic into it but its still messy
The theme of feeling like a higher plane of hierarchy is a weakness of hubris for these characters
Sommers and Saturn being a good example
And it applies to Imu in some form.
I'm waiting for Imu to lock in
i feel like you can only use that so many times before it gets tiring
People just want a edgy story with (evil) Sabo and im so glad Oda didnt do that
They haven't actually done any fighting yet
It was working pretty good for Saturn until Oda decided to forget sabout Saturn being able to stop Sanji-level characters from moving
He/she can just do what he/she did with gunko. Erase memories
alzheimer’s can affect anyone
a tragic tale really, poor saturn
Yeah clearity if everything I'll even admit that what's your idea is is more likely but I have just felt things have been off with a lot of this I always felt the throne room was a weird scene idk if it's just cus oda didn't know exactly where he was heading or what ever but yeah I'm basicly waiting for oda to clear this up but to me I my mind and sure in my head canon right now something weird is going on.
Well then you start to notice that Oda is being put into a corner introducing very terrible powerset concepts and writing it away with over confident for the sake of the story.
Which is bad writing.
Which is my problem with oda's handling of the HKs... he's making them all bumbling idiots who are prone to their own hubris
For Saturn this was fine because we are meant to learn that Saturn was putting his self interest over everything else.
on one hand it makes sense and fits them, but on the other they’re such a fun and cool group
And that was the major oversight.
Oda saw SB cheering for Saturn and had to remove him
Maybe Saturn was out of mana
That glare damaging sanji to that extent is diabolical
saturn ran out of evil haki
Trueeee let's go higher fantasy
Elemental haki will be real
You use it with Imu's magic
only luffy’s white haki can beat imu’s evil haki
For Sommers there's arguably no way for him to be giving up so much given how much was under control other than Oda setting up a major plot turn over and giving up the momentum of the Knights for it.
That’s fair enough
i’m expecting us to get at least one more proper fight for sommers and killingham here so i hope sommers will get to be more than a punching bag
don’t do it
I would have laughed at you but imu did say she lost quite a bit of her power when harald was killed and need time to recover that power.
You can name it mana or whatever but imu had some kind of storage of power which accumulates over time that can be given to others through contracts
kill killingham instead, he’s more boring
Sommers will get up & go to fight again & then Zoro will cut him up
Sommers has been the most brutal Luffy killing yet even tho he Regen
killy is shitting on shs next chapter
i like Killingham, his powers are crazy
Bro kinda feels like the usopp of the HK
Loki going for the double dip was so funny
he’s the charlos of the knights essentially
definitely not tanked
Loki steps on him too
he'll be back to normal, thats why it happened to him
u dont show the same type of damage on a non-regener
Sommers is like a cockroach, he always lives & comes back
When he eventually regens from all this I’d like to see him fight Zoro
"guys he lost all his limbs!"
"who?"
"the guy who can regen"
Sommers didn't die from this?
This is why Oda gave them regen
sommers is still standing soo
I really wanted Loki to make him disintegrate! He is such a piece of sh but like I also like his wakcyness
He can "kill" them without actually killing then
wommers
piccolo: i swear it always happens to us
Conquerors haki can’t kill these guys, it only slows their regen
well enough will
Even if sommers didn't die from that attack, i hope he suffered so much pain
thats always what happens when a character has regen
harald died cause of it after all
regens arent pain-immune
you'll never see such brutal attacks and injuries until the character has regen
Dead ass oda wanted to show Luffy killing without actually killing 🤣
no backlash on imu was seen , so yeah he's still up
do u think that would be a good thing
to bring him back just for the sake of a fight
he literally got wrecked and stomped on for good measure😂
thats why usopp somehow is blowing entire torsos off
once the inevitable regen counter comes into play they’ll suddenly become much more durable
every1 knows that if it happened to a non-regen, the damage would be significantly less
Yeah their powers gives Oda more freedom to write shit like this
instead its just their face squishing
I mean he regenerates hes gonna come back lol
Man i wanna see despair in sommers face
he's already shown Luffy killing anyway so now its killing without killing
What Law said, he’ll regen from this and then lose again, I think it’ll be to Zoro
why do you want such a whimsical man to suffer
You know glr said that this was the whole point of the Regen lol and he called it he said we would see them rally get messed up but like they come right back 😭🤣mangaka loop hole
luffy used adv conq on that punch or no?
because if that’s the case they are gonna keep regenerating no matter who damages them
so glue
Thats what I'm saying, sommers is evil being
no I
I mean just kaido really right?
I mean u
Impel Down guards
I dont think he did, but even if he did acoc doesnt one shot them
he knocked many over the edges
you have to use it over and over
Lol true
so itll have to be someone hitting sommers a lot before he dies or runs away
Oh yeah he definitely did, they feel the pain when conquerors haki is being used, it just eventually 100% heals
he's so happy and funny
When will they die then?
Beat him like 100 times?
Not the stickers I meant to post
Ok this is picking and choosing but I don't count the jobbers lol
Sure sure
It would have to be something ridiculous and tedious, because even Gaban chopping Sommers up into many little pieces couldn’t do it
I hope LA does this
I wanna see Imu tanking some attacks
They have to get to Saobody
Could it be damage that is more than Imu powers?
Luffy bajrang gun should do it
well we knew prime gaban cldnt kill wommers
What?
Like idk Garp and Roger going all out wa that attack stronger than when they all attacked saturn Imu
They did few things early like sabo, so hope
I do not think Garp and Roger together outputted more haki than 6 top tiers punching with it together with named attacks
I honestly think they’d get turned into a stain and then still regenerate, albeit slowly
I think they meant they have to receive a powerful damage that is more than the power imu is providing them through contract
Like basicly Imu hp is like four times a regular person and when they get Domi/ HK they can only survive up untill the over kill so if the hit points exceed imus amount they die but Imu doesn't
I just wanna see jaya
#also-manga message what about this?
Gaban commented that his strike was shallow I guess his refinement of ACOC deteriorates with age
Okay hear me out tho what if they both had one of them last ditch effort Luffy moments!
But yeah that would be pretty crazy
It's just so random how much damage you gotta do or what ever
Fu k this regen shit. Fu k u oda
Season 3 should have jaya
Or maybe sommers for stronger!?!?
Yeah your right probably not
I still cant see them outputting enough
This like totally. Five episodes of alabasta or something than set up jaya and skypia
Why is this so funny to me 🤣 I now need cats named after these idiots
I think they did
heh cats are always fun to have around xD
He did? I thought he only said he was rusty
It wasnt a named attack but it was essentially all their energy
I think it might be something like this yeah, because we saw Loki eat the fruit and start rag dolling Harald, then he regenerates all the damage Loki did to him and miraculously dies to the final blow that was given to him, Loki likely just packed more power into that final blow than what was given to Harald if that makes sense, idk that whole situation is weird
I lost my buddy two years ago it's been tuff man 😭 they are perfect beings lmao
Yeah, its a very reasonable deduction
It's like I would believe it if they didn't fail so badly before lol but I guess that would be Imu and not rocks

The only other thing both rocks and Harold had in common is they had consciousness at the time
Harold telling Loki to finish him and rocks begging Roger and Garp to kill him
Could it be if the user wants to die
Cute
It will let them? Same thing kinda happened with dory and brogy
Aww but puppers are great!
I don’t think so, just because regeneration is passive
And isn’t really something you can control once you have it
I like the pups stash lol
Right but idk it seems like all four of them had hopes of death when it happened that something weird for sure
tbh it's really hard to get another one after losing ur first 
Yeah I misremembered you're right
It really is 😔
How long does cats live?
Atleast 3
Mine made it to like 18 19, I hear they can make it to like 30 tho lol and they developed some sort of thing in Japan that looks like 60 percent of cats by older ages that I guess has it so they can consistently make it to 30 without that issue
Sorry I don't have a lot of info on it
😭 people still voting for non carrot characters 😭
I keep getting proof
He's aura farming in the background
My goat
Bro has a shirt that says "Great me" and has the balls to stand like this
I wonder where they are now
Enprisoned probably
I need to get like this
I think its incredible Bonney got so far with such a very ill-equiped crew
Will see them during the attack on impel down part 2
And mentally as a child too
Elteric booogalop
They must be pretty good
She's uses haki too
Probably the most impressive from nothing to Sabaody so far if Luffy's story didn't exist
I was surprised to see her have basic armament at least
Which makes sense, but considering there's a healthy amount of characters without it
Its quite interesting for such a young kid
how did she even learn armament
Probably as her venue as a pirate
She just imagined a future where she has it
She had to learn to be tough quick in the seas
I am focusing on voting a character who deserves it more aka Vivi.
Sorry about that
Sure
I know people joke about it being "She imagined a future with it" but considering the hell she went through, one would eventually get it in some way.
what you on
He’s doing the same thing~
She was seen training during Kuma flashback where she beaten up adults in her child form
oh like with blackbeard?
yeah but how does that lead to learning haki
Yeah I think he’s lying to them
i thought youd have to know what armament/haki is to really use it
I love the way you manage to say nothing with so many words.
Sure
I think it was just her will to save her daddy
just to survive or a different motive as well

Training
Well yeah, and that requires adapting to the climate of being a pirate
Well it isn’t that different from Sanji unlocking it considering nobody taught him Haki during time skip either
Unlike what other characters are unwilling to do
She had to be one to chase after her father.

Funny tho it took Luffy two years lmao
The least you could do is enlighten me if you’re gonna talk like this
To survive Egghead. Maybe to sabotage Teach since it’s looking like Wang Zhi was his father
Yeah but what about Zoro and Sanji like damn
Especially when a lot of his enemies early on either plain out sucked or over estimated his crew
Just kidding, lol

Ah I see
Bonney has potential to just outclass em all. Have her hit up the skypa girl and bring Collin
Tru pirate queen
Akainu is crazy
Tbf Zoro was on the right path with the whole "breaking through stuff" and Sanji made up for it by being extremely cunning and outsmarting opponents when it could be applicable
brat is crazy
Yeah plus outside of 3D2Y Luffy hadn’t been sailing for that long
Bonney though in all seriousness is a prodigy
Straight up
Yeah
Blackbeard finding her underwhelming is very fucking ironic in retrospect
Because look at her now
I meant in a power way.
Alpha probably retired after that punch
Her having Armament Haki makes me think Ginny could have been a Kuja
Alpha > 8 akainu
Youngest empress lol
She got disfigured in the same vein as Spamdan
That'll teach her a lesson in not sabotaging letters.
Kalifa replaced by stussy
Bonney probably just trained all the time after being cured
By beating up people
Epic
Not through mentorship
But by good ol fashioned pirateering
Let's just hope we don't see shanks using haki at that age ....
She also fights insanely well
i had a thought after watching episode 1 (one) of the live action. Maybe the wedding shanks was at was buggy's
With alvida ?
yeah
Buggy getting married with Mr.3...
mr 3 works too
That would be great but also I'll be mad oda didn't show us all that
Sounds better than finding the onepce
Jesus vs Franky if Sabo isn't involved
Radical Beam
magic vs cola
Cola Punch Giga Bulldoze
Franky not getting Armament being compensated by simply drinking more soda
Cinema
Grappler vs grappler
I truly have no idea what to make of Kuzan match up wise
I guess Sanjis
Koby
And then he gets healed and joins the fight vs BB
Kizaru just wait
He will show up on the boat
In a Hawaiian T-shirt
Kuzan gets felted by Koby or goes out as a sacrificial lamb
You voted for Shanks's wrong brother
Either for Teech's sake or a bit of Luffy's crew
Since hes clearly willing to die to burn the system down even if its by the hands of Blackbeard
Would be funny if Sanji fights him instead
Sword guy, has his favorite fruit
Is it really ironic when it would actually show how strong he actually is
What if Sanji lost a leg
Zoro would love to fight vasco
And got a pet leg like Zeff
Man idk can we handle that
Mailed to him by his father
Can you imagine how messed up it would be to see Sanji lose a leg
Or he can just Kyros it and wing it out
Dont worry, Im making zero consideration for that
Sending the idea to Oda rn
The only reason it’s strong cause Bonney is a child
I mean they say that but the wg be so wrong lol
Imagine the leaks?
Like Luffy would kill with it
Or someone with a huge imagination
Which most devil fruits need that anyways if we are to believe every devil fruit kinda uses em different
Imagination and creativity feels like a devil fruits strong point
That's why Mihawk and shanks don't have one
If Kuzan has to fight a straw hat then it’s Luffy himself only because he fought Kizaru and is obviously being set up to fight Akainu, him fighting Kuzan too would mean Luffy had a rematch with all 3 OG Admirals
Their profession is also stronger when you are haki oriented.
shamrock scarred WB👀
Shanks was able to realize just how strong Haki is by being on Roger's crew.
I'm not going to lie I just felt like throwing shade at shanks and Mihawk lol
So not surprised he would dedicate himself to it.
another day another York vote
Yeah definitely imagination plays a part but Luffy is childish so if an adult had their hand on Bonney they would have been as childish as Luffy himself
She gets fatter with every vote
#Stopthecount
Give that's shit to me I'll be in a mech all day
Very possible unironically
Imagine me in a world where I got in the robot!!!!
Sure
Wow I just figure out bonney just had the isakai iskai fruit
Her attack names are just novel names
she so evil
how exciting
I'm guessing York is gluttony
who should i vote for


