also-manga

[vale heath]

Looks like a blood splatter and it's a room of mooks, I just don't believe Zoro is the type to purposefully not kill

[glass plume]

I don't think Zoro cares about letting random goons live.

[rose rune]

he only wants the strongest people to live

[glass plume]

If anything he probably sees a death by his blade as mercy.

[rose rune]

goons usually don't die either. they just lie down all hurt unless they're killed by a villain

[mighty shell]

here's what i think lol

[rose rune]

it's how Oda writes shit

[glass plume]

Chopper has definitely killed.

https://klipy.com/gifs/monster-chopper

[rose rune]

yet he lived

[mighty shell]

yeah chopper kills... my interest whenever he's on screen!

[glass plume]

No way.

[rose rune]

are you not caught up?

[glass plume]

Isn't that a random marine goon?

[mighty shell]

and i did think about this but notably he did not die

no that's kumadori lol

[glass plume]

Oh I didn't see.

[mighty shell]

the only way chopper could kill is if monster point goes out of control but i don't think we ever got confirmation that it killed anyone

in hindsight maybe he belongs in the probably hasn't killed but who knows tier

[glass plume]

Due to it's massive size and berserking nature, especially in Enies Lobby.
I wouldn't be surprised if he at least trampled someone by mistake.

[rose rune]

there he is

[glass plume]

He should've died.

[mighty shell]

"fukurou" his NAME is CHAPAPA

[rose rune]

point is: Oda very rarely kills people off. it's usually to gain sympathy or hatred for a character

even no-names are used this way

it's called kicking the dog

[glass plume]

I don't think anyone would've changed stances on Chopper if he yeeted Kumadori into the afterlife

[glass plume]

Yeah, I can see why people are annoyed by it to be honest.

[rose rune]

oh I wouldn't mind if Oda killed off more people, he just doesn't do it

[celest mauve]

hmm I wonder who fits this

[torn onyx]

It makes so little sense they were promoted to aegis 0 after the catastrophic failure that ennies lobby was. And they even went and scaped for a while after that, it’s not like they were found by the government hurt in service, they scaped and came back much later.

[rose rune]

well, is working directly under the celestial dragons really a promotion?

[mighty shell]

i wish oda would kill off spins agenda wheel mihawk amirite

[glass plume]

Mihawk is cool, I just hope that Oda gives him more depth and purpose.

Since right now it does feel like he is just with the Cross Guild to make sure that he stays relatively close to Zoro, so they can fight it off.

[mighty shell]

i don't think he's getting much depth tbh i think his schtick is just that he's too strong and he's bored

[glass plume]

But like, what will he do after he loses to Zoro? Will he die, or will he seek further power to surpass Zoro this time?

[glass plume]

That would be a disservice to such a mysterious character if you ask me.

[rose rune]

he'll explode

[torn onyx]

Definetly. It’s a position for wich they would want even more capable people. And it’s even more secretive than cp9. And I doubt they earn less. They deal with Gorosei most likely, not saint Charlos and such.

[mighty shell]

i don't disagree i just for whatever reason don't think oda has major plans for him outside of being a zoro stepping stone

i'd love to be proven wrong though

[glass plume]

I really hope that Mihawk is related to Imu in someway.

[unique lagoon]

his backstory is interesting enough
how did some pirate hunter turned out to be WSS

[celest mauve]

it's been over 1100 chapters and the most oda can do to give some kind of relevancy to mihawk beyond being zoro's final opponent is to make him tag along with buggy, it's ridiculous

making him shanks's rival and then not giving him even a tenth of the love shanks gets

[glass plume]

It's kinda crazy that we've not even heard of who the prior WSS was before Mihawk.

[unique lagoon]

SBS is so powerful man

[glass plume]

Like that would be a simple way of gassing him up in someway.

[unique lagoon]

just depends how much backstory will oda give him

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-going-awww-luffy-melting-from-cuteness-adorable-cute-luffy-fanboying-gif-4294088788410424042

[mighty shell]

why is he so oily

[glass plume]

I am hoping that Oda is hiding it all until Zoro's battle with him at this point.

So we get a lore bomb when the battle proceeds.

[unique lagoon]

old hag dipped him in boiling water

[dense haven]

do we get oiled up zoro too

[unique lagoon]

nah hes just all serious in the watchtower

[torn onyx]

The main characters only fight seriously after the opponent has been shown to commit or be accomplice in multiple crimes against humanity. What will probably happen is that some bad guy swordsman defeats mihawk and zoro surpasses him by defeating the guy who beat mihawk.

[glass plume]

I'd absolutely despise that.

That would absolutely be drop worthy.

[unique lagoon]

lol someone kill steal zoros goal

[dense haven]

that guy is venusjuru

[unique lagoon]

after that traumatic experience of him owning his ass

[glass plume]

Zoro's dream would be disgraced, if that's how it's going down.

[dense haven]

ethan will mog mihawk

[unique lagoon]

that old man will stay in that castle for a long ass time

[torn onyx]

The way one piece has been written so far, I don’t see a fight so serious against someone who is not evil happening

[unique lagoon]

but man i do hope more gorosei pops out in these islands
maybe elbaf

[glass plume]

It has to, it's what Zoro has been built up for for all these 1000+ chapters.

[unique lagoon]

drop 1 gorosei so oda can focus on em

[torn onyx]

Most of the time it takes enslaving and mistreating a whole country for the strawhats to fight seriously to the end.

[glass plume]

If it isn't fulfilled then that would be like pissing on Zoro's dream and the audience as a whole.

[unique lagoon]

what if for some reason nasujuros memory returns and remembers who is he

[grand flower]

Remember how Kuma shot up in people’s ranking off like 8 chapters?

Mihawk will be okay

Anything that’s “1100 chapters and we still haven’t-“ just means it’s gon be crazy when we eventually do have

[glass plume]

Dragon and Mihawk will be proof of that, yeah.

[grand flower]

More of many examples

[crisp python]

Can somebody confirm if this is true? 🤣

[grand flower]

People act like Oda ain’t been doing this

[torn onyx]

It’s the same as shanks, Luffy will not defeat that emperor.

[glass plume]

Why won't he?

[unique lagoon]

im just waiting for crossguild to move out man
im pretty sure crocodile will use buggys hunt for OP
to get ancient weapons

pls god let it be wano

mihawk vs the samurai would be hilarious

we wont see it tho just aftermat in SBS

or cover

[glass plume]

The samurai would probably be cut down before even knowing it was Mihawk.

[still mason]

I'm telling ya'll, Oda is going to kill Mihawk before he faces anyone, Shanks, Zoro, Vista, anyone

[glass plume]

That would be horrible writing.

[still mason]

You'll have to settle for when S-Hawk grows up

[glass plume]

Hell no.

[still mason]

And Zoro teaches him how to be a swordsman

[grand flower]

Nah

[celest mauve]

my issue with mihawk is that he's introduced as the WSS, zoro's goal and the dude other swordsmen around the world look up to, and he's shown to be shanks's rival/friend as well early on, but then gets so little relevance after that as compared to his rival
like who cares about surpassing mihawk besides zoro? is there no competition the way luffy has for his goal?

[grand flower]

Mihawk gonna lose to Zoro and feel his flame reigniteec

[glass plume]

Why are people so assured that Oda will write it into shit, lol

It's like they want Oda to write shit.

[unique lagoon]

i wonder if oda will still use the seraphims before the final war

[still mason]

I asked this question the other day, how many chapters would Mihawk v Zoro even be? 3?

[unique lagoon]

surely revos will face a serpahim somehow

[glass plume]

Dragon will have control over them.

[celest mauve]

mihawk can be written to shakespeare-levels or whatever in the endgame and I'd still wonder why oda did nearly nothing with him for so damn long

[unique lagoon]

they aint ready

[glass plume]

By Shaka placing him in the highest of the authority list.

[jovial inlet]

Hello guys

[grand flower]

1. Again, Kuma got like 8 chapters after so long and it was fire. Waiting means nothing when it comes to OP, Oda delivers

2. It’s very clear that Mihawk is a “lonely at the top story” where his reign is so dominant he has no more challengers, which is why Zoro’s unwavering drive to beat him made Zoro so interesting to him in the first place

Mihawk outright tells Zoro in his first appearance it’s been a very long time since he’s met someone who still has that ambition to beat him

[celest mauve]

5 if we're lucky

[grand flower]

The way Oda is handling Mihawk isn’t accidental

Mihawk is meant to feel isolated from the narrative

[celest mauve]

probably not, only luffy gets such lengthy fights

[grand flower]

the entire dynamic between Mihawk and Zoro is that they approached isolation with the opposite decisions

[unique lagoon]

mihawk atm literally using buggy to just chill and not get bothered

[glass plume]

Zoro's dream being fulfilled is a major moment, of course it'll be multiple chapters.

That's not only Zoro's dream, that's also Kuinas dream.

Oda will have to focus on it, for at least 10 chapters.

[crisp python]

Mihawk's prolly strong enough to cut Dragon Loki EXACTLY like this :

[grand flower]

Zoro choosing to form bonds is gonna be what makes him surpass Mihawk who chose isolation

[high wolf]

5-10 I'd assume

[grand flower]

The whole “lonely at the top thing” is played out with Mihawk feeling so disconnected

[still mason]

I love how even though this was from a movie, it shows how enormous the gap between Zoro and Mihawk still is

Mihawk just shits on Fuji's meteor

[unique lagoon]

nah zoro will beat mihawk cuz he will unlock 3 black blades
and 1 of em has a mind of its own

[grand flower]

So, like Kuma, wait for them lil batch of chapters and the way Oda’s handled Mihawk will come full circle

In the meantime, enjoy the countless other cool characters and storylines lol

[glass plume]

There will be so many turn coaters, both for Dragon and Mihawk.

[grand flower]

Theres been so little Mihawk ans Theres been a hell of lot of others

Just waiting for Mihawk’s turn don’t seem that hard to me

[high wolf]

I hope we get Mihawk's Backstory

[grand flower]

It’s not like the lack of Mihawk presence has meant the lack of interesting characters

[unique lagoon]

instead of waiting for mihawk vs zoro
wait for crossguild to clash with another faction = mihawk doing something

[grand flower]

Characters waiting their turn gives the litany of other characters room to also be cool

Just like we didn’t see much Mihawk when we were spending time with Dofy and Kaido and Katakuri and Crocodile

There will be a time when we’re focusing on Mihawk and not them

[unique lagoon]

with these factions bumping into each other surely crossguild will have something

[glass plume]

Of course they will.

[grand flower]

I think Oda’s shown us time and time again

He makes it worth the wait

[unique lagoon]

not to mention oda build it up already with sengoku wanting to deal with em fast

[grand flower]

Like even if you don’t like all the storylines or whatever

He does in fact flesh out the storylines

[unique lagoon]

lets see if akainu cares enough about this marine bounty crossguild has done

[grand flower]

There’s nothing to worry about when it comes to Mihawk having a role that feels substantial by the time we’re done

[glass plume]

Sakazuki is stuck in his office it seems.

He shouldn't have become a fleet admiral.

[unique lagoon]

i mean dedicate man power vs crossguild
cuz marines are busy still

[glass plume]

He already has a role that is substantial, it's the role of being the corner stone to Zoro's whole dream and character.

[grand flower]

Ima throw kid ans Hajrudin in there

[unique lagoon]

they just lost a lot of ships in Egghead

• countries revolting

[grand flower]

Oh I mean even aside from just Zoros obstacle

[glass plume]

I don't see him as Zoro's obstacle.

[grand flower]

Mihawk is gonna get character work and backstory that makes him feel like Mihawk

[glass plume]

He is so much more than just an obstacle to Zoro.

[grand flower]

Yeah I agree

I meant when Oda sits down to fully commit to depicting it

[unique lagoon]

i want to say GB and Fuji will work together again vs Crossguild
but i think the mary geoise incident made those 2 not work together again

[crisp python]

If Shanks fans want to believe Shanks can defeat Mihawk, that would mean Shanks is actually the real strongest swordsman while Mihawk is the fake one 😂

[grand flower]

RN, Mihawk is a mystery

[glass plume]

Crocodile humilliating Greenbull would be a sight.

[unique lagoon]

we talked about this

[grand flower]

The fact that he’s a gothic Dracula man might be part of why Oda is writing him so mysteriously

[unique lagoon]

crocodiles power will just dry up GBs plants

[grand flower]

It doesn’t make sense fr

[grand flower]

Yeah but Aramaki can probably pull nutrients from the ground to restore himself

[glass plume]

It's the perfect counter.

[grand flower]

Or photosynthesis

Aramaki hasn’t eaten

[unique lagoon]

which makes it more interesting

[grand flower]

Presumably hasnt drank either

[grand flower]

Yeah it’s a great match up

[glass plume]

Crocodile could probably just touch the ground and the drought would be spreading to Greenbulls whole entity.

[vale heath]

shuron drink water

right now, go do it

[still mason]

We saw him drinking booze before I think

[unique lagoon]

i swear aramaki will just throw a barrel of booze at croc and thats it for him

[still mason]

re: Aramaki

[glass plume]

All of Greenbulls roots would also dry up.

[unique lagoon]

lets hope crocodile knows how to dodge getting wet this time

[still mason]

You'd think he would just throw a wall of sand up

[unique lagoon]

if sengoku plans it he might not have a chance
great tactician and all

[glass plume]

I think he has become a lot more resistant to liquids in general.

He knows that it was his fall in Alabasta, so now he has made sure to see a way to mend it.

[unique lagoon]

oh nvm aramaki looks like a guy who dont follow tactics

[glass plume]

Hell, Crocodile would probably dry up the liquid thrown at him.

[unique lagoon]

prob ruins sengokus whole gameplan

[still mason]

I don't remember if it was in the manga but he did this against Luffy in the anime

[glass plume]

At this point he would probably do it automatically, making the liquids uneffective.

[glass plume]

Yeah, now he has achieved mastery of it.

[still mason]

Basically just caught the water Luffy was spitting at him

I hope so, he deserves better mastery of his DF

[glass plume]

Give him conquerors haki while you're at it.

He is the definition of a conqueror.

[unique lagoon]

he just do this to GBs plants and they turn into dust

so much potential with this df

[crisp python]

Some fans want to believe Shanks can use the same divine departure power level without him using the sword. So I'm thinking : Does that also mean Shanks resting on the bed, would be able to bring out the same divine departure attack ?

[grand flower]

I did

You were right

[glass plume]

I hope he picks up Greenbull by his throat and withers him on the spot, making Greenbull return to the soil presumably healing himself until Crocodile withers his roots as well.

[grand flower]

Sheesh that sounds brutal

[glass plume]

Crocodile killing Greenbull would be so cool.

[unique lagoon]

dont think WG wil attack crossguild with just fodders

almost certain they will use 1 or 2 seraphims

sengoku+admiral+seraphims

[glass plume]

Watch Mihawk be the first person who slices a seraphim in half.

[still mason]

Do you think Mihawk has any named attacks?

"Mihawk Slash"

[vale heath]

Pirate Warriors 4 gave him a few, by necessity

[still mason]

"Mihawk Slap"

Oh that's interesting

[glass plume]

A lot of night related abilities.

By PW4 standards.

[still mason]

I'll have to check out those names for him and WB

[rose rune]

"World's strongest sword attack!!"

[still mason]

Shanks too, I think I read the names of his attacks from that game before

[sick dust]

PW4 had Shanks use a gun before his dlc

They aren’t always reliable

[rose rune]

"World strongest swordsman infinite slash!"

[still mason]

Yeah for sure not reliable but I'm curious

[vale heath]

I don't believe that Shanks doesn't use a gun

[still mason]

"Dracula Cut"

[glass plume]

"Black Blade: The Void" is an attack that Mihawk has in PW4.

[rose rune]

I like to imagine he includes his title in every attack name

[still mason]

"Black Black: The Void"? Ehhh

[glass plume]

"Black Blade: Brandish" is another one.

[sick dust]

Tbh we need more top tier characters use guns

Least a pistol

[still mason]

Ohhhh it's "Black Blade: The Void"

[sick dust]

The most pirate weapon out there

[rose rune]

We already have doffy and kaido

And imu

[still mason]

Izo used guns and look where that got them

[rose rune]

One of few characters with a kill

[glass plume]

I have faith in Ben Beckman when it comes to being a gunman.

[rose rune]

Maha died to guns

[glass plume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/benn-beckman-roronoa-zoro

[rose rune]

Oden, corazon and whitebeard also died to guns

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rocks-rocks-one-piece-rocks-d-xebec-xebec-gif-4842569528383032865

[still mason]

Damn remember when the BB pirates cut the bullshit and just started blasting WB

[glass plume]

Pathetic.

[stray prism]

Peak

[glass plume]

Their bullets even ran out, fucking noobs.

[crisp python]

How do you even respond to someone like this? 😂

[still mason]

Bege used a gun

[rose rune]

with love

[sleek saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-imusama-im-one-piece-egghead-gif-9625100848209320264

don't

their respond... never existed

[still mason]

The late Absalom also used firearms

I don't remember if they were technically guns though

[rose rune]

his mistake was using cannons

cannons are famously weak in one piece

[glass plume]

Don't forget about Lucky Roux

[rose rune]

I'm trying to forget

[still mason]

Also can't forget about Kong's guns

DAMN

[spice cairn]

Guns are a powerful tool

[rose rune]

he had a growth spur

[austere comet]

Cavendish

[spice cairn]

Diamante used a gun

So did Doflamingo

But they were execution tools rather than weapons

[still mason]

They almost always are used that way, I never really noticed

Arlong used one to kill Bellemere

[rare ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/lucky-roo-ben-beckman-yasopp-gif-26470316

[spice cairn]

Im not particularly sure why but I assume it offers a quicker death with less time for the opponent to resist.

[rose rune]

you say that, but actually doffy, arlong and kaido knew that they weren't strong enough themselves, so they switched to a gun for the kill

[spice cairn]

Killing Scarlett because she could solo the entire Doflamingo Family

And people said Oda hates women

[rare ivy]

Yasopp used one to win a dual against Daddy Masterson, one of the best marine snipers at the time

[rose rune]

"this woman can murder me with a bread, better use my gun before she comes close"

[glass plume]

Genuine question, are there any Yasopp fans?

[still mason]

What a badass

[unique lagoon]

doffy + weevil partnership to escape impeldown soon

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbits-bunnies-bath-wtf-chill-gif-3411972

[still mason]

I think Yasopp is alright

[unique lagoon]

if you have a flintlock pistol yeah
i would get that much also

[still mason]

Wouldn't say I'm a huge fan really but he's okay

[rose rune]

mostly people hate him or are neutral towards him I think. don't think I've ever come across a fan

[unique lagoon]

nvm odas flintlock pistols has like 12 ammo

[rose rune]

he's a meme target

[spice cairn]

Yapssop

[rare ivy]

I am his fan

[spice cairn]

Dont forget to make your vote today and drink water while I'm at work

[unique lagoon]

sniper characters lost all their aura when oda starts introducing characters dodging bullets and straight up blocking it

like jean bart

[still mason]

It's up to Van Augur to restore the faith in sniper characters now

[glass plume]

Has he even visited Banchina after her death?

[rare ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/yassop-gif-18374226

[glass plume]

Let alone placed some flowers on her grave at least.

Does he even know that she died?

[still mason]

He doesn't know I don't think

[unique lagoon]

oda was smart enough to give van auger a DF that requires him to get close to his crew to teleport them
so that kinda ruins his long range sniper tactic

[glass plume]

Doesn't seem like he gives a shit either way, not about Banchina at least.
He cares some for Usopp I guess...

[still mason]

Right now I think he just assumes that Usopp set out to sea like he did with his mother's approval

[glass plume]

Doesn't make him any better.

[noble carbon]

Awakening....

[glass plume]

Definitely my most disliked Red-Haired pirate.

[still mason]

Eh I'm not arguing him for better or worse

[unique lagoon]

good question
how many BBP will awaken their DFs

[rare ivy]

He is a member of a Yonko crew, they have access to vast amount of information. I think he already knows what happened back home

[unique lagoon]

i feel like burgees will unlock his awakening fairly easy

that DF looks like its made for him

nvm i think all of em has a DF made for em

[glass plume]

And on top of all this Yasopp decided to blow Bartolomeo up, for just reasons, but still.

[unique lagoon]

now its that bullet blowing up

[rare ivy]

He is a pirate

[unique lagoon]

or did he shoot the ship gun powder barrel

[still mason]

He did the thing the Kuja did where they put aramament in their arrows, or bullet in this case, and it goes kaboom

Maybe

[glass plume]

If only he could be this decisive when it came to meeting with his son...

[unique lagoon]

yeah that looks like a bomb exploding

[still mason]

It's like shooting a Muggy ball basically

[rare ivy]

When blackbeard pirates do dark shit like that, everyone admires them and defend them by saying ‘they’re pirates’ but when Red hair pirates do anything, people are ready to dislike them

[glass plume]

I don't defend them at all.

I actively dislike the Blackbeard pirates, lol

Except for Kuzan.

[unique lagoon]

yeah but using obs knowing where the exploding barrels in the ship then shooting it is a good explanation also

[torn onyx]

WTF are you even serious? The warp fruit is perfect for a sniper. A snipers biggest weakness is their position getting revealed. He can change positions, and be sure it will be 1km+ radius around the target. It’s the deadliest fruit for a sniper.

[still mason]

Oh I like that

That's good

[glass plume]

It's hard to defend Yasopp when you know that he left Usopp and Banchina, and now procrastonates meeting with his son.

[unique lagoon]

cuz he keeps teleporting to his teammates to "rescue" "reposition them"
his repositioning is so ass gene bart blocked his bullet straight up

[mighty shell]

yasopp contender for biggest series bum

it's stiff competition but he's making a run for the top

[torn onyx]

One thing is clashes and teamwork and the other is duels. You know serious fights are always duels in op.

[unique lagoon]

a sniper that still stands in the open like this

[glass plume]

Bepo wrecking their shit was hilarious.

Such incompetent fools.

[unique lagoon]

what even is this
go teleport and reposition you dumbass

front liner sniper wat

utter disappointment

[still mason]

Mostly agree with this, one of the only exceptions I can think of at the moment is Big Mom

[glass plume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-animated-gifs-one-piece-anime-6

[unique lagoon]

the anime dint even do him any good also

[noble carbon]

Lmfao the singular example of anime Bepo glaze

The fucking sniper just spinning around in the air after he gets punted

[glass plume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-animated-gifs-one-piece-anime-4

[unique lagoon]

anime showed he lost his rifle here

so he cant shoot this fish

[glass plume]

I love Bepo's sulong form.

[unique lagoon]

ye design is good

chopper mink meth doing work

[still mason]

Does it seem weird to ya'll that Burgess has the strength DF and basically got ragdolled here? Or does it make sense because he was caught off guard?

[graceful grove]

Oda during final war

[unique lagoon]

surprise attack is one of the most powerful attack in OP

[still mason]

Yeah true...

[unique lagoon]

it bypass most defenses or buffs

[graceful grove]

He is a bum

[still mason]

BBP have shit CoO I guess

[unique lagoon]

reaction time is all over the place

case by case

[celest mauve]

the concept of doflamingo trying to control a titan who could kill him by sneezing in his general direction

[glass plume]

Doflamingo shat himself at the thought of Kaido, let's be real.

[vale heath]

No matter what happened, Dressrosa was always going to end up destroyed

Doflamingo is smart enough he knows he can’t win a fight with Kaido. Say he doesn’t do the CP0 thing with manipulating the papers, Law doesn’t give back Caesar, provokes Kaido’s wrath as planned.
Doffy runs away.
So now Jack or Kaido arrive at Dressrosa looking to kill him, he’s not here, do you think they’re just going to accept that as an answer and leave?

[unique lagoon]

dint he said that while already working with kaido

[muted hedge]

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X · Mar 9, 2026, 3:17 AM

[unique lagoon]

oda be like what if we get two child of destiny

[prisma yacht]

Cute babies

https://x.com/i/status/2032462122228293948

みみこ (@mimiko_co)

🦒聖描くのたーのしー！

X · Mar 13, 2026, 2:21 PM

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/manofbeskar/status/2030678083863507125/photo/1

hawk 鹰 (@manofbeskar)

happy birthday shamrock ☘️
#onepiece

X · Mar 8, 2026, 4:12 PM

[grand flower]

I think he’s cool especially after his redesign

[glass plume]

That's fair, I just don't vibe with his whole personality.. I wish that we got something in relation to him making his way to see to it that he places a flower on Banchinas grave or anything like that, just showing that he cares by action and not just by words. Also I fail to recollect if he has mentioned Banchina anytime, most of the time it's just him procrastonating his meeting with Usopp.

[vale heath]

I think we only hold it so hard against Yassop because that’s his only character trait displayed thus far

I don’t think it’s exceptional or even unusual for career pirates to leave behind abandoned children

Given that they are pirates, after all

[glass plume]

It's definitely because it's such a defining trait of his character so far, yeah

[vale heath]

Whitebeard was an exception and was called a freak for thinking of his crew as a family.
The average pirate has like 1.2 abandoned children (I made this up)

[glass plume]

I guess it's just the general lack of care that bugs me.

Like a coverpage with him leaving flowers on her grave would be brilliant.

Showing some sort of care, despite his pirate disposition.

[noble carbon]

Wait did he always have the awakened Zoan cloud scarf

[rose rune]

yeah

[noble carbon]

Damn what the hell

[prisma yacht]

[noble carbon]

Feels like a major thing I've missed

[proud pivot]

Should I flood chat

[noble carbon]

No

[glass plume]

No.

[prisma yacht]

Yes

[glass plume]

No.

[prisma yacht]

Ughhh ok

[proud pivot]

Okay

[rose rune]

here you go

[grand flower]

I feel like he maintains a distance because enemies of the Red Hairs would target Syrup like Big Mom did to Sanji

[grand flower]

So interesting that his is white

[rose rune]

it's because he's a good guy

[warm sierra]

He helps people face their fears, hes just a therapist

[grand flower]

Yall right tbh

[limber hawk]

What if the most handsome man in the world with the best hair had two kids with a woman with no screen time

Just thinking out loud, what if they were twins?

[rose rune]

vasco might have twins... but I kinda doubt it

good theory tho

[limber hawk]

You're right . . . Just a little thought I was onto something

[timid hinge]

Did i read wrong one piece? I don't remember this in manga

[grand flower]

I thought you meant Hibari had a twin

[vale heath]

What if Shuron had a twin

[muted hedge]

chapter week soon

[rose rune]

it happens in the extended edition

directors cut

[timid hinge]

[grand flower]

I used to wish I had a twin

My brother was young enough that sports and fighting weren’t really fun for a while

[muted hedge]

having a sore throat stinks

[muted hedge]

basically monster point Chopper

[vale heath]

At the end Luffy picked up chopper to put in his shoulder

Which is interesting because chopper is all CGI

So I have to wonder what exactly Iñaki picked up

[muted hedge]

probably some kind of doll

[unique lagoon]

its this

[vale heath]

Perhaps of note, LA did take out the “snake soaked in blood” line dorry and Broggy say at the end of little garden

[prisma yacht]

Watched ep 6 and 7 today

they were great

[muted hedge]

7 was somber

[prisma yacht]

Yeah

[muted hedge]

Dr. Hiriluks actor was great

[prisma yacht]

Really enjoyed their acting

[vale heath]

Casting is not a problem, they are superb with casting choices and character direction

[prisma yacht]

kureha was great too

[vale heath]

I just wish the writing was slightly tighter.

[prisma yacht]

yeah I really hate inakis dialogues

[muted hedge]

that's just Luffy

[prisma yacht]

no

[mighty quarry]

Which part of the production specifically is Randy Troy involved in?

[prisma yacht]

there are parts

A few

[mighty quarry]

I saw his mom made it in the papers

[vale heath]

I am very pleased with Barto’s inclusion though

[muted hedge]

i'm indifferent to it

[vale heath]

He meets Nami first, Nami steals his wallet, he's enough of a grifter himself to notice, and Nami lectures him on how to properly grift people.
Which Barto then tries to use on Luffy, and is interrupted by Buggy, and subsequently disappears into the crowd.

Good use of secondary character.

[muted hedge]

at least it explains why he'd come to admire Luffy and the gang

[prisma yacht]

My fav eps order so far
Ep1
Ep6 and 7
Ep 5
Ep4 -3
Ep2

[proud pivot]

Who's the character in your pfp

[vale heath]

They did kinda ruin Laboon…

[mighty quarry]

Duchess from Elden Ring Nightrein

[rose rune]

I'm glad you asked about my pfp. now allow me to answer

[prisma yacht]

😭

[rose rune]

it's nico robin from the hit series one piece by eiichiro oda

[muted hedge]

it's actually female Garling

who dyed their hair black

[prisma yacht]

Upside down

[mighty quarry]

It's actually female Gon

[prisma yacht]

moon shaped

[rose rune]

!pfp

[tropic nova]

Here is @rose rune's avatar.

[rose rune]

it's clearly Robin

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/opm-smile-opm-sus-opm-black-s-black-sperm-black-s-gif-8910966867520032274

[prisma yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/1482345331852054801/one_piece_cats.gif

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/skate-skateboard-skate-cat-cat-skate-skateboard-cat-gif-21923730

[muted hedge]

talk about perfect casting

[mighty quarry]

The dog?

[vale heath]

Joe Manganiello

Also sounds a little bit like a your mom joke, if the cadence was correct

Joe Manga

[prisma yacht]

https://x.com/i/status/2032559663141507530

Pew (@pewpiece)

What is Oda's process of writing One Piece?

Oda: In Manga, the characters take on a life of their own and drive the action. What Luffy wants to do, what he wants to say, I plan it out to a certain extent, but when I start writing, Luffy says and does unexpected things. So I have

X · Mar 13, 2026, 8:49 PM

https://tenor.com/view/ᄅᄅᄅ-gif-12986874361705647962

[stone terrace]

When the mangaka is a schizo

[muted hedge]

anyone would be after 1000 chapters

[warm sierra]

Comes with the trade probably

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[prisma yacht]

he made a billy bat ref

[mighty quarry]

Luffy sitting down and actually hearing a backstory of any character is certainly unexpected behavior

[buoyant comet]

But like what if that backstory mentions shanks

[unique lagoon]

waiting on the pay off for this

[muted hedge]

Luffy sensing Choppers presence

[vale heath]

https://preview.redd.it/can-someone-tell-me-what-were-these-anti-kaido-weapons-v0-xerq20yk0lkd1.png?auto=webp&s=400a462ce1d9e1288cca875bd5f0384e0a84a8c3

[unique lagoon]

yeah but whats it leading to is what im looking forward to

maybe full VoaT awareness and stuff that comes with it

[prisma yacht]

Luffy has radar

[stone terrace]

Tbf lokis story couldnt have been more than like 2 minutes

[prisma yacht]

🫩

[unique lagoon]

may VoaT counters observation killing

[stone terrace]

Like yo i fought this hammer that i have right here but its also a squirrel

Then i ate the legendary df and killed my dad who became a wg goon

[muted hedge]

personally i don't think it was voat which allowed Luffy to sense Chopper

[unique lagoon]

so this alone is enough to tell me loki wont die vs imu

or even get captured by imu

[muted hedge]

domi reversion is still up on the table

[unique lagoon]

the idea is imu lose elbaf control but gets loki instead

but with that lokis friend plot that wont happen

[ornate tartan]

🤣

[dark nymph]

I hope Loki doesn't get domi'd, most predictable shit ever

[unique lagoon]

fine

luffy instead

[dark nymph]

better ngl

[ornate tartan]

it’s happening

[unique lagoon]

MC weakness fighting imus power for the first time
loki saves him

stronger bond after

[muted hedge]

it still could, Loki would be freed from it sometime

[vale heath]

Boss doesn’t spam their most powerful technique, lazy bad writing
Boss spams their most powerful technique, predictable bad writing

[sleek plume]

We all knew Rocks would get Domi reversi’d in god valley yet it still happened

The obvious happens sometimes and that’s fine

[prisma yacht]

we also thought eris wld get dr'd

[dark nymph]

obvious piece

[prisma yacht]

I hope ace doesn't die , most predictable shit ever

probably someone while mf was ongoing

https://tenor.com/view/cat-suspicious-stare-reaction-gif-gif-26297876

[unique lagoon]

the whole how to stop domi or cancel it is all over the place
we thought strong will which rocks had could stop it
but nah

[dark nymph]

I think a lot of people thought Ace would live tho

[muted hedge]

kill them

[unique lagoon]

but then again now strong will might snap you out of DR

[dark nymph]

cause of Pell and all the bs that came before

[prisma yacht]

Yeah

[unique lagoon]

im talking about before that reveal

[sleek plume]

Yeah things were looking good after he got rescued, they were literally fine

Akainu showing up was unexpected

[unique lagoon]

like strong will/haki will negate you being DR

thats out of the window

[dark nymph]

I wonder who actually thought he was going to die after he got freed

[unique lagoon]

but now DR dorry and broggy just snaps out for a second

same way with HK gunko who also snaps out

[dark nymph]

must have been crazy weekly for the forum-ers

[unique lagoon]

herald also did it

seams like oda gave it mulitple ways to snap out

maybe just strong emotional triggers
if that makes sense

[muted hedge]

dying seems to be the way to reform from it

[unique lagoon]

im talking about snapping out

[muted hedge]

at least domi reversi, the influence by covenants is another ordeal

[grand flower]

Harald also regained his senses close to death

[prisma yacht]

Dorry Brogy have a strong will

[unique lagoon]

now compare herald and gunko gaining their senses back to dorry and broggy

[muted hedge]

i'm just wondering if there was any possible way where Harald could've been saved

[grand flower]

Goes to show that Imus powers have variations with similarities and differences

[unique lagoon]

herald was being beaten up by some strong haki+DF+emotional effect of his son

gunko just saw/heard brook and snap out iirc

dorry broggy pride snap em out? or something

[pulsar path]

I think tbh it's when you some how destroy the seel even tho it's going to come back it still has moments where it has to Regen and they regain at least mental composer? That was how I interpreted things going on

[unique lagoon]

but gunkos seal was not broken

[mighty quarry]

Harald was made a GK directly

[pulsar path]

What about when usopp blew her up

[mighty quarry]

That has gotta be harder to break than regular domi reversi

[unique lagoon]

she already healed that iirc

[pulsar path]

I can't remember how much was Regen

[unique lagoon]

but i think gunkos bits of personality was already showing
like wanting to keep brook
also her happy expression eating killinghams food

[pulsar path]

I mean we don't really know if the seek was somewhat distorted or something or if her having. To Regen fully made her not susceptible to her own memories like we seen with Evey person under the controlen

[muted hedge]

the music too

[prisma yacht]

yea there were hints

[unique lagoon]

this part

so this is the OG gunko

[pulsar path]

Well I mean she's not a zombie

She's like Sabo with memory loss

[muted hedge]

i'd say Gunko listening to Brooks music was the biggest hint of her personality flashing through

[pulsar path]

He still going to like things

Just won't remember why or who

[unique lagoon]

its odd because imu can rewrite your memories no?

[pulsar path]

I mean we don't really know

We are assuming she is some sort of brain washed

[muted hedge]

i think it's more just influencing them

[pulsar path]

Or what is it called have you edit memories

[muted hedge]

brainwashing

[unique lagoon]

dint heralds memory of imu/WG turned full on positive

[pulsar path]

We know editing memories is something a devil fruit could do

[pulsar path]

I believe it's a little different

Like they have a different name for it or something

[ornate tartan]

lol oda cooked his own fanbase

[pulsar path]

Harold was like possess/ being controlled like how rocks had an inner monologue where they can see everything Happening but can't controle then selfs but than we hear them say things idk if that's before they gain consciousness or if it's just Domi using there personality or some crap it's kidna confused and all over the place and we have like three different kinds

We have the contracts and flip version and the way he got xebec

[unique lagoon]

so its up in the air if gunko actuall has straight up amnesia
or imu mind fuckery

[pulsar path]

Which seems to infect xebecs body

[unique lagoon]

i would pref imu just changed her memory

[pulsar path]

I feel regardless what it seems like we need oda to explain what's going on?

Cus it's so weird and confusing

We need like the whole story

[iron oriole]

She 100% is, Imu even questions if her memories are returning

[muted hedge]

i think that Gunko has been brainwashed as well as under the influence of Imu's covenant

[unique lagoon]

i dont even know why people defaulted into thinking its amnesia
when oda already gave imu brainwashing powers

[muted hedge]

her seeing Brook again would have reminded her of these memories which have been buried

[unique lagoon]

what am i missing there

[thin quest]

I believe that getting the abyssal level contract comes with brainwashing, the Gorosei are brainwashed too I believe

[pulsar path]

Not from what shanks said

He basicly said they do what there told without brainwashing. Cus they could be forced

[muted hedge]

Gunko is very clearly a special case

[thin quest]

I mean brainwashing in so far as their previous memories about themselves are erased

but then there's Garling

[pulsar path]

It doesn't really matter if they are brainwashed or not cus most likely no one is going against Imu who joined on there own accord other than I guess Harold and Gunko and shanks but all are different situations

[unique lagoon]

i think most of them are brainwashed
but theres people like sommers who looks like complete sickos already

[iron oriole]

Definitely 100% brainwashed, i wouldn't be surprised if the regen is actually working against Imu & the brainwashing

Something like after taking damage around her head, when she regens it slowly heals even her lost memories

[pulsar path]

I mean I'm there not brainwashed by there reaction to obliterating illusian

[high wolf]

I'm starting to wonder if what you said is true.............

[pulsar path]

They didn't want to do it and were reluctant

[unique lagoon]

yeah imu is surprise gunko is bypassing the brainwashing

thats how i see it

[pulsar path]

If they were brainwashed they would have just said yes Imu

[iron oriole]

Idt anyone born a CD needs brainwashing

They're basically already fucked up as is

[pulsar path]

Maybe in some sort of shanks and shamrock plan against Imu

[unique lagoon]

i think this is putting it too simple
the gorosei can still give their take
they are there to manage stuff

[pulsar path]

It even so they would just follow orders till they didn't have to

[pulsar path]

That's not brainwashed than tho

[unique lagoon]

like thats why saturn kept emet knowing imu hates that

[pulsar path]

Right so they can't be brainwashed

[muted hedge]

Shanks is probably going for the one piece because he thinks that's the optimal way of taking down Imu for good

at least a reason

[pulsar path]

They are being controlled yeah but by there own accord

[iron oriole]

Idk about cant be, probably just not needed for the most part with them & majority of CDs

[pulsar path]

They like being the top

[unique lagoon]

yeah the brainwashing part is removing their old personalities

[pulsar path]

What I'm saying is from what we seen no brainwashed it doesn't add up

[unique lagoon]

thats how i see it

[pulsar path]

They have em tho

[iron oriole]

Why doesn't it add up?

[unique lagoon]

or just forgetting their whole history before gorosei

[muted hedge]

even if the elders were brainwashed they've lived for so long that they'd have formed new personalities at this point

[pulsar path]

Cus you can't disagree with Imu

They did

They have there own minds

[unique lagoon]

im not even talkinga bout how weird gorosei talks

[iron oriole]

The CDs are fucked up as is, if you're born one you don't need brainwashing to act like them

[muted hedge]

they didn't disagree with Imu, they questioned it

[keen quiver]

The gorosei are just like that tbh

[iron oriole]

Also yeah its not like they defied orders

Imu said nuke Lulusia so they asked why

[unique lagoon]

killing a gorosei will prob fuck up imus body so hard

[pulsar path]

I mean what's the real difference there they had an opposition to blowing it up but Imu wanted it anyways they showed they had free will even if they are being forced to do another

[iron oriole]

"Its close" ight say less

[pulsar path]

If they were completely brainwashed they would have not keep Emmett or krep any secrets from Imu

[iron oriole]

Idt anyone is saying the Gorosei are brainwashed

[keen quiver]

He has to actively be slapping the disloyal out of you

The gorosei are just evil

[maiden charm]

I think they are literally just pieces of his power returning to him, i dont think it'd bother him too much

[keen quiver]

Both times we've seen imu using the brainwash it takes active effort

To pull it off

[unique lagoon]

cuz the gorosei will still need have some sort autonomy to work properly

[pulsar path]

Sure evil I won't disagree but also like Vega says we don't understand the full issue with the void cus I could actually see the Ak being evil too

[maiden charm]

Ak?

[unique lagoon]

you forget imu was huffing when herald died and thats just an HK

[maiden charm]

Ancient kingdom nvrm

[pulsar path]

And what ever happen the cd and Imu could have decided this was the best for the world and I'm not defending them they still went the wrong way

[keen quiver]

The cd are just evil tbh

[pulsar path]

But possibly from there perspective they aren't " wrong " but they totaly are

[keen quiver]

The majority have no imu influence

They are just like that

[pulsar path]

I mean they do

Imu has like a CD code you gotta follow

[muted hedge]

celestial dragons probably weren't even a thing in the void century, they probably started to call themselves that after Imu had gotten their rule in tact

[keen quiver]

Cd code ???

What

They have no actual rules

[pulsar path]

Yeah like for example the way they treated mojhuard

[maiden charm]

True true, but going of the childish mannerisms of imu. I got the vibe that he got" his new favorite toy taken from him" and he was Moreso upset about that. Thats why he said there will never be another like harald

[iron oriole]

They were formed after the VC happened yeah

[pulsar path]

They do hence why garland is the judge

He helped a fishmen

[pulsar path]

You can't so that

[keen quiver]

Yeah yet he did nothing to fujitora

😭

[pulsar path]

He's not a CD

He's a marine

He didn't attack another CD

[keen quiver]

"I'm gonna ignore the guy freeing the slaves."

[pulsar path]

Fuji did it so they couldn't blame him

[keen quiver]

But one rule enforcement doesn't make me think they have binding laws.

[pulsar path]

They probably just though the revs did it

[keen quiver]

They are allowed to do literally anything

[pulsar path]

There not

[keen quiver]

We've never seen a single "restriction"

[pulsar path]

They literally can't help blue sea people

At all

If they treat them to well bye bye

[iron oriole]

GB literally fought with Fuji over it

I think its obvious

[unique lagoon]

the CD still have its own society you know
its fair to assume they have their own set of rules

[keen quiver]

They know who freed the slaves

[pulsar path]

Did you notice they don't talk to CDs?

[keen quiver]

He literally saw fujitora do it

Why would he not snitch

😭

[pulsar path]

Who are theyg going to tell

[iron oriole]

That doesn't mean they dont know Fuji freed slaves

[maiden charm]

Yea this still doesn't mean he was physically damaged by losing harald

[pulsar path]

Sakasuki

Sakasuki is going to protect Fuji

[keen quiver]

He literally screams about how the celestials are gods

[unique lagoon]

knowing fuji he prob did the "accidental" releasing of slaves

[keen quiver]

Why would he not tell any of them

😭

Makes zero sense

[pulsar path]

They aren't even allowed to talk to cs

Cd

Why would green bull go and talk to the goresein

Or a random CD

[unique lagoon]

what does this mean then

[pulsar path]

He's going to report to sakasuki

[keen quiver]

"We know you have important information but fuck off please."

[pulsar path]

How do they know that

[iron oriole]

He doesn't even have to report it, 2 Admirals are fighting eachother on Marijoa....

Thats going to be questioned

[pulsar path]

Your making all these assumptions

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-good-garfield-hey-good-looking-hey-handsome-looking-in-the-mirror-gif-20294451

Literally insane

[pulsar path]

They weren't really fighting they had the revs attacking and Fuji mad it look like accidents

[unique lagoon]

fuji out there sailing
akainu cant control him lol

[keen quiver]

You're the one assuming they have several laws they all follow off one judgement.

[pulsar path]

Also gorsei were attacked by Sabo during this

[keen quiver]

And saying the guy who's a known government bootlicker wouldnt snitch

He literally loves sakasuki

Who's the number 1 government dog

[maiden charm]

He is literally putting a piece of himself in those that take the convent,be it physically, or through whatever magic that makes imu tick, he is giving a piece of himself to those that make a covenant with him

[unique lagoon]

dint one of the CDs warned GB they will kill him if he fucks up lol

[pulsar path]

They showed us having. A trial and how garland is the only person who can pass judgment an excute a CD that means they have laws wtf maybe you speed reading

[keen quiver]

They'll get right on that

Never

[pulsar path]

Yeah but even Imu and the gorsei arnt going to kill an admiral

Technically kizaru failed his totally plan

As far as we know Imu isn't killing him

[unique lagoon]

its just chain of command
Thats my take

[pulsar path]

I mean remember what they said about luccie

They have bugs they like

[keen quiver]

Lucci got the job done

[pulsar path]

Golden beetles

[unique lagoon]

its up to akainu however he wants to punish these admirals
also the whole moral thing which seams very important

[keen quiver]

Thats why he wasnt stamped out

[pulsar path]

He completely lost wtf

[unique lagoon]

looking a for a new admiral with enough power while they prepping for the final war

[keen quiver]

Mars literally says well done

But pop off

[unique lagoon]

lucci did his job

he snitched properly

[keen quiver]

We just ignoring the fact he did his job

[pulsar path]

Yeah there going to go to sakasuki to do something About this not do anything them selfs plus I really don't think any of th CD including mu are very smart 😭🤣 or they just too full of em selfs

[keen quiver]

Because he lost the fight

[pulsar path]

I mean

Why were the gorsei there then and kizaru

Dude don't really do nothing

[unique lagoon]

if you try looking at the big picture on how fuck up it is right now for the marines
removing an admiral will make it worst

[keen quiver]

Because they were summoned by Saturn?

[pulsar path]

Exactly

[pulsar path]

Yeah because cp0 failed

[unique lagoon]

they just lost garp also bad moral

[keen quiver]

They were trying to stamp out luffy

But they got vegapunks shit

[pulsar path]

Who did ?.

Cp0 was in bubbles

[unique lagoon]

countries revolting marines spread out
crossguild marine bounty
lost a shit ton of battle ships in egghead

[pulsar path]

I wonder if this is what Imu meant that the holy land was on fire

[keen quiver]

We havent seen crossguild in like 4 years

So I can't even

[unique lagoon]

who knows how much revos is bothering marines also

[unique lagoon]

you just going to meme this out?

crosguild bounty is a big deal

[iron oriole]

Next we see CG, we'll get
Croc vs S-Croc
Mihawk vs S-Flamingo
Buggy vs S-Bat/Gecko

[keen quiver]

Its a bench mark

[unique lagoon]

i dont see your point

[keen quiver]

Gonna be skipped

Is my guess

No shot we'll see any of that

[iron oriole]

Doomer

[keen quiver]

Realist

[maiden charm]

I think we'll see them after this battle with imu, I mean if we saw Barts fate then I dont see why not that

It'll be in the same stint we catch up with the revs and vivi

[unique lagoon]

man tbh ill be fine if oda skips the fights of the seraphims
as long as they do something
like crossguild base destroyed cuz seraphim attack news

the 3 goobers out there doing something
ancient weapons hunt

maybe

[iron oriole]

Barto is alive btw, no GF member is being taken out before they do whatever it is that will shake the world

[pulsar path]

If he dies Luffy and shank will have to fight for real

[unique lagoon]

i still think buggys group will defeat one of the grandfleet captains and take luffys vivre card

[pulsar path]

IDC how much Luffy glazes that man if he killed one of his friends he begged they pissed

[maiden charm]

Yea i dont doubt it, im just saying Odas made a point to give us glimpse into the ongoing events of the world
It'd be garbage pacing if we just skip most of it to their climaxes imo

[pulsar path]

I miss how egghead went out into the world 😭

[unique lagoon]

surely this lead to something

[maiden charm]

Revs,Vivi,BB,Cross guild
Why only skip cross guild

[unique lagoon]

is this mf going to deal with crossguild
or help garp
who knows

[pulsar path]

I wonder if that's the structure. Secluded island form wg to spotlight island to the wg

I think from here on out most events will be shown

[maiden charm]

But we been on WG for 2 arcs now :/

[pulsar path]

Next bb fight will see something

[unique lagoon]

also the most awaited cut away outside elbaf soon tm

[maiden charm]

Revs?

[unique lagoon]

revs bb shamrock

[maiden charm]

Or urouge ?

[unique lagoon]

shanks

[ocean sigil]

There is a video on YouTube where a guy explains the lore of GoT for almost 3 hours and it only has 86 views.. my heart hurt for him.. he uploaded it yesterday

[maiden charm]

Im most eager to see bb tbh

[unique lagoon]

kidd burying killers body somewhere in elbaf maybe

[pulsar path]

I would count wano and elbaf and secluded hard to get notorious islands while egghead was a straight up know island with camera and a bunch of info going in and out

[maiden charm]

Nah, I think that theory about Roads Crow scooping him up is thr most credible

[pulsar path]

Give it time it will probably get traction eventually

[ocean sigil]

But what if it doesn't??

[pulsar path]

At least I hope!

[maiden charm]

Fair fair, I just want a space arc

[unique lagoon]

i want killer to die
so kidd realize he did that
mf killed his best friend after warning him

[pulsar path]

Yeah space arc would be great lol

[pulsar path]

The more I think about it the less connection in what I was saying about the islands tho lol.

[maiden charm]

I got a theory the ancient civilization is in space

[pulsar path]

I think they definitely have ties to it

I'm almost positive some sort of aliens will be involved

[unique lagoon]

we alien talk now?

space minks

[maiden charm]

Hell yea

[pulsar path]

I mean we already kidna have em

[restive lintel]

Imu is from space?

[pulsar path]

With enel

I do think Imu is a space dragon

[unique lagoon]

enel from the sky with an army of space minks and robot

[maiden charm]

The architecture is the same as the ancient civilization in the first world mural

[pulsar path]

And birthed all the other dragons

[iron oriole]

And this

[pulsar path]

Yeah if the winged people descending is a real theory than they probably were eth ancient kingdom at one point?

[unique lagoon]

thing is if sengoku going to attack crossguild
surely he will need some of those seraphims maybe an admiral or two

im sure GB as sent weevil in impeldown already

or maybe send weevil to york

[keen quiver]

God almighty no space pirates in the main plot

[pulsar path]

Enel is a space private

Pirate

[keen quiver]

Cut back to this and its a news report saying what happened.

[unique lagoon]

the anime only would be so confused if enel just comesback

[maiden charm]

See same platform, and if you zoom into the planets on the back, they have the same markings as the people in the mural indicating that the ancient civilization and perhaps the 20 kingdoms were actually a space-faring civilization

[unique lagoon]

that means anime will need to make an enel space adventure episode

[maiden charm]

If your talking about the one in zuensha I think that was maybe a precursor race to the lunarians and skypians

[unique lagoon]

the ark maxim being shown there dont mean enel will comeback tho
That could just mean something like it was used back then

[maiden charm]

I think it was definitely old tech

[pulsar path]

Na in the murals you can see shabdoroans slypians and luniarians

[maiden charm]

Which world tho

[unique lagoon]

some people think all 3 ancient weapons are already in that mural

[pulsar path]

Not in the world in the one in space enel is looking at

[pulsar path]

I mean I think the serpent is Pluton

[unique lagoon]

ok now which one is uranus

the flying ship? the dragon?

[muted hedge]

the dragon

[maiden charm]

I think the weird star at top of enels mural is it, the one with the mother flame in it

[pulsar path]

It's hard cus it seems like the dragon is nidhog

[unique lagoon]

man i kinda like the idea of a DF being uranus

[muted hedge]

Nidhoggr

[keen quiver]

I'm ngl

Its likely just a flying ship

[muted hedge]

meh

[maiden charm]

2 out of 3 ancient weapons are ships

[keen quiver]

Specially since the mother flame is being used to power it

[maiden charm]

That so lame actually genuinely literally

[pulsar path]

Slypians are the one with the antenna than I think it's shabdoroans and the last one is the lunarians based on the way his wife's are

[keen quiver]

Its oda

[pulsar path]

I think pluton is a mix

[keen quiver]

The moment we saw the sky beams and it needing a fuel source

Flying ship

[unique lagoon]

ngl i just thought its that thing in the background

[pulsar path]

A battle ship connected to a seaking or monster

[maiden charm]

I get setting your expectations low so u can be surprised later, but majority of ancient weapons being ships is so cheeks

[pulsar path]

Or pluton is a monster but the pluton blue prints are mecha Godzilla

[keen quiver]

I would have agreed it being a df if this wasn't said

[muted hedge]

we've not gotten a confirmation if that is Uranus or not

[keen quiver]

Ancient weapon

[maiden charm]

Nah, I dont see why they would just put a reactor up there, plus it doesnt even look close to the mother flame container

[keen quiver]

This is only used when said ancient weapons

[muted hedge]

it could be a recreation

[keen quiver]

Are being used

[unique lagoon]

theres also this guy
theorized to be lunarians

[pulsar path]

Tbh the guy next to the robot has wings we haven't seen by any one but lunarians other then them not being black wings

But lunarians have full wings

[muted hedge]

an ancient weapon being a devil fruit would be perfect

[pulsar path]

The other two don't

[muted hedge]

instead of just a machine, like Pluton

[unique lagoon]

this what i think

[maiden charm]

Hmmm, I dont think its a devil fruit either , I dont know what its supposed to be tbr

[unique lagoon]

that whole structure is the moon

or the moon base

[muted hedge]

Uranus just being a flying ship is so meh

a submarine, a flying ship and a sea godess

[maiden charm]

Yes that one can be the reactor,not the one with the mother flame in it

[unique lagoon]

the idea is lunarians was the "inferior" race amongs the winged people

= there was more racism back then

[pulsar path]

Where did that come from tho

[muted hedge]

i think the lunarians were the superior race

[pulsar path]

Yeah for sure

[muted hedge]

which the other sky people derived from

[unique lagoon]

heres the thing bud i dont think thats the motherflame
cuz shaka said they cant recreate the energy back then

[pulsar path]

I think they all there own race that came together

They each have specific characteristics

[unique lagoon]

motherflame pales in comparison to what tech of an energy this guys was using

not to mention that they are in the moon

[pulsar path]

But what's curious is

[iron oriole]

Lunarians definitely were the superior winged race, they're basically indestructible

[pulsar path]

Did the mother flame or reactor they had run put

[maiden charm]

Does the original mother flame not hail back to the ancient kingdom

[pulsar path]

Out* or did someone steel it

[stone terrace]

Mother flame is nuclear fission and what they were using is fusion

[muted hedge]

Eneru seem to be the infinite energy source

[unique lagoon]

see you need to ask why did the winged people split up
some stayed in the clouds some was in shandora some was in the redline

is that a generational thing?

[pulsar path]

Theory's I seen seem to be a back and forth thing . Wing people come to earth , leave for some reason( to the moon) than return and the theory is they created the Anciant kingdom with there tech

[unique lagoon]

we talking tens of thousands of years

[pulsar path]

Could be a different people thon

[unique lagoon]

was there more winged people during 800+years in these continents VP mentioned

[muted hedge]

well the lunarians coveted the land which was on top of the redline not allowing the other sky people to interfere on their territory, could be a reason

hence they took the red line as theirs and banished the others to the sky

[unique lagoon]

sure it could be a clan thing

like enel had his own place called birka

[pulsar path]

I don't think so

I get the feeling ether the Ak started hunting strong people to turn them into devil fruits or use there DNA

Or it was the 21

I just don't know who was more evil cus

[unique lagoon]

where does first world go in this

[pulsar path]

We know joy boy stole form the Ak and became the first pirate

[iron oriole]

Yeah Imu presumably wiped 99% of them out & took the Red Line

[pulsar path]

Tbh where does Davey Jones fit in

True king of the world?

[unique lagoon]

we cant just ignore what the first world did for these
first world could have created devil fruits

[muted hedge]

yeah, presumably because they saw that as the place where the superior beings belonged or because of the first flood

[iron oriole]

Probably just because of the God complex

[unique lagoon]

ill cope oda will actually show the past on devil fruit creation lol

[pulsar path]

It feels like forn me we didn't get the tech for devil fruits till AK but it's all guessing

[iron oriole]

And it being known as the land of the Gods

[unique lagoon]

instead of just "dreams" cop out of an answer

[pulsar path]

The wills is what's gets me

How do they have wills if they are just dreams

[muted hedge]

wasn't there holy trees which had souls in them?

couldn't the devil fruits be something similair

[pulsar path]

I think para and logia are man made

And zoans are captured beings

[unique lagoon]

you need to remind me what this is

a tree with souls?

[pulsar path]

They would capture mythical beings than use their powers as weapons

[unique lagoon]

you mean back in shadora?

flashback

[unique lagoon]

ok we back to if we take this literally

or is it just some tribal belief

this guys was worshiping a snake

[pulsar path]

I mean it was false and it was killing them lol

[muted hedge]

almost like devil fruits could also kill the user if you eat more than one and isn't named Teach

[iron oriole]

The trees became diseased but that doesn't mean its all false

[deep chasm]

king before imu imo

[unique lagoon]

why use that example when roger literally said theres strong voices coming out of the poneglyph

[deep chasm]

I think Davy jones had a world that was twisted in its own way,a nd it probably caused imu a lot of trauma too

[pulsar path]

I mean you don't wanna get me started in this lmao I won't believe it till is we someone blow up from two

[deep chasm]

and that is part fo why imu does what she does

[muted hedge]

has to have been Albers ancestors not Alber himself right?

[maiden charm]

I think,The ancient kingdom and the 20 kingdoms were a space colony before the cataclysm that forced them to the Blue Planet.
The planets in the background of the murals sharing the same markings as the citizens on enels mural. The architecture and the technology is very identical to the architecture and technology displayed throughout the Enel Coverstory and the first world mural .im not saying birka was the AK but it was part of its colony. The little robots that are in the enel backstory are the same ones carrying the lights on the identical platform in the first world.
The 3 ancient weapons were a symbol of the AKs superiority, it was how they were able to colonise multiple planets and control multiple planets for so long. Thats my take on it

[deep chasm]

huh

Im not saying King as in alber

Im saying king of the world

[muted hedge]

oh, my bad

[pulsar path]

Maybe but its weird how xebec made it sound like he didn't get to the throne like Imu took it right from under zDaveys feet

[deep chasm]

I think Davy was king of the world in the 1st world, imu grows up in that time or even maybe like a relative of imu and it leads to part of imus trauma

Imu ends up taking over and so now we have imus world which is also twisted

but there'll be debates of which world was worse to live in, imus or davys

then nika comes along trying to break down both worlds to just make everyone free

[pulsar path]

Seems about right I don't agree that the 20 were from space I think they're emulate what they seen the space people look an acts so hence why they wear the space suits and shit

[unique lagoon]

and if we use this
1st world was tens of thousands of years ago
compare to void century was just 800-900

[muted hedge]

i personally think that Davey Jones and Joyboy were from the same era

[knotty bone]

I think the world now where most of the land is sunken below the ocean has to be worse

But not for imu

[unique lagoon]

i think there was another thing that killed the world during first world
it only sank during 2nd world

[deep chasm]

I dont think we should assume its worse now. Itd be a very oda thing for him to show us imu growing up in a boatload of trauma due to davys rule

[unique lagoon]

first world could have cracked the world into pieces while 2nd sank it

[deep chasm]

and thats why imu turns into the person they are now

[fluid cedar]

Its only advantageous for imu if he is a fishman

[unique lagoon]

oh yeah im def expecting this
oda will drop all the trauma sob story for this character

[knotty bone]

It's advantageous because he's in charge. Ruthless dictator shit

[muted hedge]

judging by this the hellfire serpent along with the earth god is what caused the destruction of the first world

[unique lagoon]

this goes back to my idea of nika user failing twice

[knotty bone]

North Korea is great for Kim Jong Un but terrible for average North koreans

[unique lagoon]

first world he found nidgogg but not poseidon
2nd world joyboy found poseidon but not nidghogg
now 3rd world luffy knows both

[muted hedge]

i mean yeah, Luffy will succeed where Joyboy and Nika failed

[pulsar path]

Idk I think Poseidon is tech based by the way the DNA shows up at specific time

[unique lagoon]

its the details

[knotty bone]

And he has Franky to rebuild Pluton or just smash it out of Wano

[pulsar path]

I think the Anciant weapons were developed by the Anciant kingdom maybe 2 put of 3

[muted hedge]

we know Pluton was from Joyboys time, yeah

[deep chasm]

also does this imply nika and imu just havent met before

[unique lagoon]

this never meet thing is poseidon and nidghogg

its not nika

nika is just the tool for them to meet

thats his job

[deep chasm]

I feel like the things needing to meet being poseidon and nidhogg is kinda mid

[maiden charm]

Maybe so, maybe the remnants of the AK were what started civilizations on the Blue Planet, but yea the og 20 can just be swapped with a regular colony.
It would make sense that the 20 vs 1 occurred in the second world because the gene technology the ancient kingdom had would allow them to create Posideon. This leads me to think that the all 3 of the weapons werent created at the same time but throughout time.
First world was Uranus/Mother flame a spacefaring...ship? Harvesters? Something that allowed them to conquer
Early Second world was Posideon- using the creatures(sea kings) that dwelled in the uninhabited sea, they created someone that can control them so they can live there
Later 2nd or 3rd world was Pluton for the rebelling islands or dissenters. Thoughts ?

[muted hedge]

maybe, feels more likely that Imu is being possessed by some primordial evil which maybe originates from the first world if you ask me

maybe this is the Mu which they refer to themselves as

since we know from Ivankov that Nerona Imu is from the void century

[unique lagoon]

it fits so well also with this

[pulsar path]

Yeah tbh I could see this being how it played out!