also-manga

[trim lily]

she would’ve cooked him if the world was just

[radiant rose]

Tbh the bb pirates only survived becs of kuzan

[prisma idol]

W gimmick

[glass plume]

Garp should've won.

[fast pagoda]

Yup

[glass plume]

If it wasn't for Garp caring more about getting Koby and the rest out of there safely, he would've won.

[radiant rose]

He wouldve if kuzan wasnt there

[spice cairn]

Notice how he says this and then years later has to block Vasco Shot's fire attack

[glass plume]

I think as long as Garp didn't have a sentimental attachment to Kuzan for being his former pupil would be enough for him to beat him.

[spice cairn]

Oda is lying out of his ass

[radiant rose]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-egghead-arc-garp-monkey-d-garp-gif-6811947587324008733

[glass plume]

He did that to make them catch on fire, so he can spread the fire by tossing them as flaming cannon balls.

[radiant rose]

Sent this 𝕸𝖋 on a diving lesson

[long basin]

he wanted to infiltrate, since he couldn't leave his pupil alone on this dangerous island

[spice cairn]

Unfortunately no amount of smart will take away from this

[radiant rose]

Garp himself said he wasnt nearly as strong as he used to be

Old age creepin

[spice cairn]

Vasco Shot's fire upscale to be stronger than BM's output

[long basin]

bartolomeo may end up on hashinosu and glaze Garp for being luffy's grandfather.

[fast pagoda]

Posting this again

[spice cairn]

Beautiful

[glass plume]

He literally named it "pirate fireballs" lol

[spice cairn]

Yeah but those are hot pirate fireballs

[safe cove]

crazy to think this sanjuan is 3x bigger than base loki

[radiant rose]

Idk why garp never taught luffy ab haki

[safe cove]

(if what zoro said is true about loki being as big as oars)

[long basin]

he wanted, but luffy became a pirate

[stone terrace]

But then df loki dwarfs the largest version of sanjuan

[glass plume]

He probably did though indirectly.
You know throwing him in the jungle and all that

[radiant rose]

Sanjuan made marineford look tiny

[safe cove]

he has huge huge fruit, we don't know how big he can get

[glass plume]

Nidhoggr would make Marineford look like a foot note.

[radiant rose]

Zunisha

[glass plume]

Them too.

[radiant rose]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-zou-zunesha-jack-fight-gif-22194310

[safe cove]

yet garp yeet him

[radiant rose]

Whats funny is the bandits there actually dared to mess with luffy

If i was them i wouldnt wanna mess with the grandson of garp

[glass plume]

Dadan was their protection, she seems to hold the reins on even Garp

[radiant rose]

Garp couldve folded the entire village in half if he wanted to

[glass plume]

Probably the entire island if he really wanted to.

[formal wagon]

j*ck should have died here but oda is stupid

[radiant rose]

He didnt die becs he can breathe underwater

We have seen people survive much worse

[formal wagon]

pellsplosion and pagayazap

[frigid gulch]

Jack upscale ?

[radiant rose]

Jack was so hyped when he got first introduced

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/i/status/2032396935496380541

หงุิม (@Ngimngum_)

อันนี้ภาพชัดๆแหวนที่ครอคใส่ เป็นลายมังกร เสือ หัวกะโหลกบาร็อค เป็นแหวนของโจเอง ฉันก็ไปสืบมาจนได้เนาะ

X · Mar 13, 2026, 10:02 AM

[radiant rose]

The first person to have a confirmed bounty of a bil

[spice cairn]

One of the rings croc wears

[radiant rose]

Did he tell you that?

[trim lily]

crocomom real

goda

[dense haven]

I wish I had the money get blinged tf out like that

[radiant rose]

just go on ali express

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/swag-13

[glass plume]

Quantity over quality lets anyone become blinged out like that, lol

[dense haven]

if its not real good and blood diamonds whats even the point

gol

gold

[radiant rose]

Bro wants blood diamonds in the big 26

[dense haven]

suffering builds character or something

the others not mine

[glass plume]

Are there any subtle One Piece jewelry?

Like official.

[dense haven]

like from characters or just general op theme jewelry?

[glass plume]

general

[dense haven]

if there is merch to be made you can be sure oda tried

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-funny-smile-happy-gif-4163740030726237429

[glass plume]

I feel like i've never seen any, lol

This is what came up when i searched on it, everything else looked like it was from AliExpress

[spice cairn]

This is official merch

However Ali Express is dogshit

They essentially recreate the merch with a cheaper materials

[glass plume]

Yeah...

[spice cairn]

Or if you are lucky, they simply just give you the stock that has been sitting in a warehouse somewhere

Now, sometimes Ali Express is fine

But whatever you fucking do. Do not buy figs from them

I learned the hard way

[glass plume]

Lmfao.

[spice cairn]

There has been yeah

Like the one you posted

[glass plume]

Is that official?

[spice cairn]

Yes

[glass plume]

Damn.

[spice cairn]

I bought the Whitebeard Ace one for my best friend

They have quotes exchanges from associated characters on them

Like "Was a good dad" one with Ace and Whitebeard and the Long Ring one between Zoro and Sanji game two iirc

[glass plume]

That's cool.

[dense haven]

bro gonna vote once for every character in the series

the ceo of fence sitting

[prisma yacht]

squeak sounds are increasing

[glass plume]

Good picks except for one.

[prisma yacht]

Hm?

[trim lily]

the luffy vote mhm

[grand flower]

Imagine you order a figure from AlliExpress and you get some shit I made in my bedroom

[prisma yacht]

Ahem ahem

[glass plume]

Someone payed 50$ for this.

[ornate tartan]

list missing several important ppl

[spice cairn]

Despite being a merch guy

I barely have OP merch

I just love studying it

[prisma yacht]

Shanks vote only after it's revealed that he's the hinokizu

[brittle basin]

are we the only people doing one different character per day?

[prisma yacht]

[prisma yacht]

guess soo

[spice cairn]

You know what this server should do

We can do weekly chapters

Starting from chapter 1

[glass plume]

?

[spice cairn]

We re read daily

[trim lily]

only 4 years

[spice cairn]

Back from square one

[glass plume]

Ah.

[brittle basin]

I chose Otohime today.

[ornate tartan]

no

[radiant rose]

Yall just be buying anything.

[spice cairn]

4 years when we finally get to Vira civil war arc with Ju Peter as the main antagonist for some reason

[ornate tartan]

u need to vote for garling

[prisma yacht]

nice idea wld be fun discussing akainu vs wb ♥️

[brittle basin]

By the time we catch up, the series still won't be done.

[prisma yacht]

W

[spice cairn]

Thats the fun part

We pretend we are 90s kids for a couple months

[prisma yacht]

I was wondering if I shld choose bellemere or otohime yesterday

[brittle basin]

smh i am a 90s kid

[prisma yacht]

I went with bellemere

[brittle basin]

bellemere is cool

[prisma yacht]

[twin thicket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/164971940648321024/1225313668741337119/IMG_4935.gif

[tidal ice]

way too real

[brittle basin]

i already did

[formal wagon]

vote carrot

carrot for top 1

[trim lily]

carrot will reach the top 10

(again)

[glass plume]

Not deserved.

[brittle basin]

ten rhymes with bin which is where Carrot belongs.

[radiant rose]

Ten
Bin

Yeah no those dont flow the same eminem

[prisma idol]

If she does I'll send a video of me eating my shoe

[grand flower]

No you won’t

Ten years in hell for capping for no reason

[formal wagon]

11 years in awesometopia

good book title?

wait no

i didnt think that out all the way

[runic dock]

For a dystopian horror novel yeah

Also the sequel to The Truman Show

[deep chasm]

I dont think that necessarily translates into thqat being how all fruits work.
Cuz I mean in that case, and you may say yes but this is a question from curiosity, can fruits disappear? If no one else is wishing for magma powers, it'll just stop appearing after akainus death?

[trim lily]

theres always someone wishing to be a jacket

[iron oriole]

always someone wishing to control mucus

Gold Tama for the GOAT

[glass plume]

Why does it look so blurry?

[iron oriole]

no idea, i just hit print screen

i just need a gold Brook now

[graceful grove]

hmmm who to vote today

[golden valley]

Well no, I’d say DF’s are like ingrained into the world, like an established system that cycles out. DF’s are powers wished up before those of today, so I think this is an implication that they’re pretty much indefinite. Point I was making is no one has stopped believing in “I want to be X” so the cycle of DF creation has no implication of ever being stopped if it could even be stopped

[deep chasm]

Point I was making to arsal which applies here to: we dont know how it works

even if we say okay it definitely has to do with wishes

we have never been given a clue how it actually manifests

and you cant safely assume its just as simple as "people start wanting powers" -> fruit drops from sky

for all we know theres a mechanism to it. Could have to do with a person, a deity, an ancient weapon, some ritual, who knows

[graceful grove]

[iron oriole]

i think they were originally birthed from the Eve tree

[deep chasm]

so the idea that theres still people wishing doesnt mean theres still fruits being made. We need to know how it works completely, because for all we know just people wishing for it isnt quite enough for the process

[iron oriole]

just makes sense for the tree thats named after Eve, the one who ate the forbidden fruit... to birth the forbidden fruits

[deep chasm]

makes sense to me too. Have we heard of an eve tree tho

like where would that be

[iron oriole]

yes

[graceful grove]

yea thats a safe bet

[iron oriole]

its what gives sunlight to FMI

unlike the Adam tree, its the only one too

[graceful grove]

would make sense imu settles near the eve tree

[golden valley]

Im talking about the cycle of pre-existing DF’s, I didn’t know we’re talking about new DF’s entirely being created

[iron oriole]

i think, just like it absorbs sunlight to give light & life to FMI, it once absorbed dreams/wishes of the people & birthed the DFs

[blazing depot]

Flexing my golden Garling

[glass plume]

Remember this?

[iron oriole]

not sure if they'd still come from the Eve tree though since iirc its mostly submerged, the sea probably interferes with it

[deep chasm]

I dont see what you mean then. If theres still wishes making fruits, that means theres new dfs being created

unless youre saying its the same wishes from different people making the exact same fruits as before

[iron oriole]

probably why they just pop up randomly too from what we've seen

[deep chasm]

which wouldnt make much sense tbh

[golden valley]

When a user dies, a DF spawns into a new fruit

This is cycle

[deep chasm]

yes but its the same fruit

so like where do the current wishes come in

if the fruit was initially made from someone 800 years ago

[iron oriole]

i wonder if there even is new DFs appearing

[azure spindle]

💀

[deep chasm]

well more power to th eidea new fruits arent being made 😛

if its just the tree has been submerged or whatever

[deep chasm]

yea I personally dont think so. Arsal thinks so, idk what majj thinks

[graceful grove]

what?

[iron oriole]

i think thats the biggest ?

do new DFs still appear

[graceful grove]

king baum is cool and a victim of the CDs

[iron oriole]

well the Eve does presumably reach above the sea since it gives sunlight to FMI but with my idea, its like the "flower" that the fruits come from are underwater so now they just go to nearest fruit or whatever after a user dies

[graceful grove]

i'd say they don't. it could be a case of golden goose where humans greed led them to force the natural process to their benefit and got permanently cut off

[iron oriole]

i think if new DFs still appeared, we'd have got something about one by now

[golden valley]

Doesn’t necessarily have to be the case because I think it’s already a system built in the world that makes them indefinite. Im also on the opinion that DF’s new are being created, so I don’t see why it’s being viewed as optional. I think both are true

[deep chasm]

I could also see on the topic of maybe the fruits stopped being created, maybe whenever that happened, thats also when they got the nerf of not being able to swim

[graceful grove]

maybe initially it didn't have aside effect. after cutting them off they added a side effect to it out of spite

[iron oriole]

the reason why the WG have been cloning fruits etc could be because new DFs aren't appearing so theres essentially limited stock on good powers

[trim lily]

has the WG been doing that?

im pretty sure that was entirely on vegapunk

[iron oriole]

they cloned Kaido's fruit, Kizaru's fruit was used to make Kuma's lasers

[iron oriole]

under the WG....

[deep chasm]

I still dont rlly get what youre saying tho

I think for some reason no new dfs get created. They got created some time in the past, and something caused the process to stop. Adam thinks the process is just I wish -> fruit spawn, so new fruits are constantly being created.

Are you agreeing with adam that new fruits get made? When I say new fruits, I mean fruits that did not exist before. So its not about oh if smoker dies does his fruit come back. But can someone or some people wish for the power of telekinesis and then tomorrow a new telekinesis fruit spawns

[trim lily]

yeah but im saying i dont think he was instructed to do that by them

[deep chasm]

yea I think thats probably how it is

[trim lily]

like i doubt they went "make sure to use kizaru specifically to make these lasers"

[iron oriole]

they would have gave him clearance for it at least

[graceful grove]

they got cameras on him. if it was something they didn't want, they would tell him off

[trim lily]

yeah

[deep chasm]

Fruits became a thing and people were OP, then Imu or whoever else did something magical and now you cant swim if you have a fruit

[trim lily]

itd benefit them if he could do it

[trim lily]

i like the idea that fruits started out as a manmade creation

[golden valley]

I’d probably agree with Adam. What’s your thought process on no new DF’s being created?

[iron oriole]

they're also funding it so i think its counts

[golden valley]

Eh, I just think is because theres a limited of OP devil fruits so its best to clone the broken ones

[iron oriole]

wouldn't be surprised if the AK had the knowledge to create DFs

[trim lily]

i actually think the humans made it in opposition to the AK

[iron oriole]

[golden valley]

I think thats what the energy VP was talking about did

[trim lily]

makes for a cool technology vs magic thing

[iron oriole]

'tis an interesting idea

[trim lily]

the human kingdoms couldnt stand up to the technological might of the AK but then discovered and tamed the devil fruits

[deep chasm]

Like I said before, we just dont know how the thing works. Us knowing it has to do with wishes doesnt actually tell us what the process is. Theres a million ways it could work and have a real mechanism and not just be "me and my friend really want to fly" and then tomorrow the fruit for flight spawns.

So I think its very easy for oda to make an explanation for why theres no new fruits.

Otherwise, Ive just never rlly seen a reason to believe this is something constantly created. Most people agree fruits werent always a thing I feel like, so I think the idea that they once werent a thing makes me believe there was some sort of event or period that made them into a thing. Rather than this just being the forever truth of the world

[golden valley]

I see

[iron oriole]

i probably lean towards no new DFs appear more

simply because i think we would have seen something about it if so

just like a couple panels, someone finds a DF & looks in the DF encyclopaedia & it's not in there at all

that would be enough for me to say new DFs appear

[graceful grove]

i hate that SH have never found one in their journey around the planet.

[iron oriole]

still wish Monet's fruit appeared in Nami's orchard

[graceful grove]

or anyone from wano

[iron oriole]

could do a hilarious scene too where the SHs find one & Luffy without thinking properly, just see's food & goes to eat it but everyone quickly rushes to stop him etc

[graceful grove]

imagine if we had a SH with the dream of finding a specific df like Law situation instead we have lame and impossible stuff like ending racism.

[deep chasm]

right, and even then I feel like the fact the encyclopedia seems to have just about everything is more proof

like maybe someone could find a fruit not in there

but we have the yami yami and nika fruits in there

and it doesnt rlly seem like a constantly changing thing

[deep chasm]

a great point tbh

I also wonder if the creator of the encyclopedia will be relevant

[graceful grove]

could easily be a giant

maybe they find the og copy in the library cleanup

[deep chasm]

thatd be cool

[graceful grove]

then nami notice a funny looking fruit on her tree

she ask robin for its info

oda plz

[cold steppe]

Technically they did. Just not entirely

Mera mera in dressrosa

Went by quick tho

[graceful grove]

yea...its partially why i like Dressrosa so much

[runic dock]

If no new ones are made it helps sell the point that they’re extremely rare and the grand line funnels in those users because those users seek the strong seas for whatever reasons

That’s why we find them being used by people in there over and over and over but never finding it in the wild unless in the middle of a transfer

Like if there was a fruit that was NEVER BEFORE used in the let’s say 900 years they existed , that would be insanely rare and wild af

[graceful grove]

skypie would've been a good place to have one

[runic dock]

I just wanna see someone try to eat two devil fruits and explode

[graceful grove]

i volunteer Sengoku

[runic dock]

lol same

[urban lodge]

It has to be BB

It's way cooler than him drowning

[royal orchid]

can you imagine if this whole time the 2 devil fruits death thing was a lie

[graceful grove]

plz tell me this is not a real image from LA

[final trench]

I think its 50/50

[urban lodge]

Oh

That's creepy

[final trench]

Its gotta be true because aint no way nobody tried that yet

In 800, dare i say 400 years max

[graceful grove]

its true because BB would've fed multiple ones to his crew already

[final trench]

Plus knowing the government they probably forced a nigga to eat 2 random DFs

[final trench]

This aswell, but i feel like that would be too OP

[graceful grove]

they should test again to see if the rules changed after BB ate 2. thats why Sengoku is perfect for this and he would obey

[royal orchid]

when someone says something so medicinephobic you gotta hit them with the healthstare

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-exploding-exploding-spongebob-blow-up-hanhell-gif-20905608

“Hey sengoku eat this”

Ok

[urban lodge]

Tbh it does look pretty good despite how creepy it is, except the nose

[royal orchid]

hey segoku I made you a smoothie

"damn it's a little bitter"

[final trench]

Nah devil fruit smoothie is ridiculous

[graceful grove]

ffs it is real

[final trench]

Im surprised that hasnt been made yet

[graceful grove]

oda might pull the plug on opla. this is not the mascot he wished for

[royal orchid]

they are really expensive

devil fruits

rare as hell all things considered

[thin quest]

in hindsight the Op Op Fruit being only worth one billion berries is kinda crazy

[graceful grove]

1% that frequent on the special island would have this as an option

they did have them as prizes too

[royal orchid]

1/5th of Roger himself

plus it comes with the risk to your own safety if you eat it

[stray prism]

Wasn't it 5 bil

[thin quest]

maybe it was 5 billion

[graceful grove]

would you guys eat a random DF if you found it, with no knowledge of what it is?

[thin quest]

I can't remember

[royal orchid]

oh it was 5 bil

Roger himself is worth 500k more than the fruit

[thin quest]

without a second thought

[stray prism]

Id love to turn into a jacket

[wraith mantle]

Ugly photo, a queen tho

[royal orchid]

I can't not think about the jacket fruit

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-trebol-one-piece-gif-24849032

thats yours

[royal orchid]

devil fruit encyclopedias are public surely

at least in bigger islands

[thin quest]

okay question, am I eating the DF in the real world or in the op world?

[graceful grove]

real world

[thin quest]

okay yeah without a second thought

[royal orchid]

I'm eating that shit

[graceful grove]

we are also sinking

[royal orchid]

I do like pools though

[graceful grove]

i'd eat too

[royal orchid]

depending on the fruit it doesn't matter because maybe I can fly or turn into some crazy animal lmao

cooler than a water box

[blazing depot]

She fine as hell good vote man

[wraith mantle]

Thanks

Stay tuned for my vote tomorrow

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-one-piece-zoro-god-god-zoro-zoro-slayer-zoro-strong-gif-27379313

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/roronoa-zoro-monkey-d-luffy-one-piece-istp-esfp-gif-27001175

[glass plume]

Damn, Dr. Hiriluk humming the Tony Tony Chopper song.

[hot cairn]

yoshi

[soft tangle]

“Yeah bro, Sanjis sister? One of my favorite characters! 😎”

[thin quest]

so who do we think Mosa is?

it's almost certainly not Shirahoshi that much is clear

[soft tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-patrick-laugh-audio-gif-3537169

[distant vine]

Now we see the motivation behind Luffy needing multiple rounds to finish fights

[cold steppe]

Literally every second half of every arc

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/2032560532641792465?s=46

Pew (@pewpiece)

Oda about One Piece:

One Piece may be a humongous story, but I love for people to enjoy the casual banter on the ship between the Straw Hats. Or the relationship with the people they meet on the various islands. It's those little things that matter most to me. So I hope you read

X · Mar 13, 2026, 8:52 PM

Then give it to us

[cold steppe]

That's some next level trolling

[grand flower]

No it ain’t because what he’s talking about still happens

Yall just listened to the inflammatory dullards too much

[distant vine]

They do it every inbetween

And then the chatting with the locals

[grand flower]

https://youtu.be/IpuZay4zlbE?si=F03Nwp20r0P9-lPQ

TALK YO SHIT BIG DAWG

[grand flower]

I’m autistic as fuck so ima go find every panel of SH banter in Elbaph alone

[hot cairn]

he does tho

[hot cairn]

I have no idea

same with the burn scar man

[hot cairn]

do it

[thin quest]

yeah I'm still at a loss tbh

[hot cairn]

everyone seems to think it’s Shirahoshi but even then I’m not so sure

[thin quest]

it's almost certainly not her because in the untranslated Japanese Mosa and Shirahoshi have wildly different speech patterns/styles

Mosa speaks like an adult woman and Shirahoshi uses an overly formal childlike speech pattern

unless Oda decided that Shirahoshi's childish demeanor is a mask

I have a hunch that Mosa is someone in the Heavenly Realm

[dense haven]

I was a denier once but after I found out roger called her mosa I cant run away from the truth anymore

plus there is the chapter showing neptune and harald being friends

it couldn't be more obvious they doing king stuff setting up their heirs

[torn onyx]

It’s shirahoshi, she just tries to sound cooler/older with Loki

[formal wagon]

mosa is probably bad ending luffy from the future

everyone knows this

[thin quest]

i don't think so, the emotional maturity that Mosa speaks with is entirely antagonistic to any time we've seen Shirahoshi

I'll eat crow if I'm wrong but I think they're all red herrings

[torn onyx]

Even the timing with her experience in Mary Geoise lined up with what Mosa said happened to them

[thin quest]

OP characters and their speech styles are usually pretty consistent across the story

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/leleo2211/status/2032411347389206845?s=46

Leo | Sengoatku No. 1 (@Leleo2211)

Icl of all the spoilers in the live action, spoiling the name "laughtale" might be the worst

▶ Play video

X · Mar 13, 2026, 11:00 AM

[glass plume]

Holy shit, just watched episode 7 of the OPLA that was tearjerking.

[blazing depot]

It’s not a spoiler dumbass Raftel was a mistranslation for years

[dense haven]

[grand flower]

Cant be

She tells Luffy he’s the first person to be mean to her

[thin quest]

yup, another great point

if Mosa does end up being Shirahoshi it'll be the biggest and most gross retcon imo

[glass plume]

Mosa is bound to be a completely new character.

The things with Shirahoshi feels more like a red herring than anything.

[thin quest]

I think given that Loki is a dragon and can fly it would make sense that Mosa is on a sky island

[glass plume]

Could be.

[thin quest]

maybe even the heavenly realm, the dichotomy of heaven and hell

[glass plume]

Or, Marijois? Maybe locked up or something.

[blazing depot]

Shirahoshi is the only chick as big as Loki…

[glass plume]

Or somewhere across the red line at least.

[glass plume]

Well Gaban and Ripley are a thing, so I don't think having equal size matters here.

[blazing depot]

Have you tried putting a giant peg into a tiny hole?

It’s much easier with a tiny peg in a huge hole

[glass plume]

As logical as that is, I don't know if it's right to apply it in One Piece

[thin quest]

yeah I think Mariejois is a good idea too, Mosa mentions she won't be able to talk to Loki again for a long while and it coincides with Imu letting us know that the city is on fire (presumably from the RA or maybe BB)

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/buran_1023/status/2032547585123299837

实则不然 (@buran_1023)

X · Mar 13, 2026, 8:01 PM

[glass plume]

Good point, though it seems like Marijois was saved.

[thin quest]

Hmmm I didn't pick up on that, do you remember Imu saying something?

[glass plume]

Well.. I am only judging from this view of Marijois we got recently.
There doesn't look to be much panic, though it could be internal i guess.

If it was a full on sea of fire, I'd assume that we'd at least see some buildings ruined or maybe some flames spreading.

[formal wagon]

so...

[buoyant comet]

It would explain the language sommers used to summon Shamrocks, when he said his "presence" would be comforting.

[dense haven]

yall liked the live action?

[glass plume]

Yeah he did say something about Shamrocks presence being a benefit, strangely enough
Considering that there are probably other God Knights there as well as the Elders...
I wonder what Shamrock might be able to contribute with?.. Maybe he is the one who everyone listens to.

[brittle basin]

Imu surely wasn't lying, I hope. There is a food shortage for example, and Sabo did break in at one point, and Kuma went on his scaling of the Red Line, and I think Fujitora and others were fighting at one point. But, yeah, none of that was a fire. So, I'm also confused. I guess Imu only meant fire symbolically??

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/don-krieg-not-bad-one-piece-live-action-wow-gif-5729231549210468687

[glass plume]

Probably, though it would be very cool if Shamrock actually dealt with it.
Another way of propping him up for the future, given how lowly the fans think of the God Knights at this point...

[dense haven]

is kireg the only villain offscreened so far

[brittle basin]

This upscales Cerberus.

Pearl

[dense haven]

kireg fan life aint easy

[thin quest]

oh good pick up, it hadn't even occurred to me that this implied Shamrock helped to end the attack

[vale heath]

Oda off-screened Miss Thursday in the manga

[glass plume]

Also might lead into what Shamrocks potential second power could be.
Assuming that's what he was refering to when he told Gunko that he wouldn't need to dirty his own hands.

[brittle basin]

he ate the urine urine fruit and quenched the flames

[buoyant comet]

The Celestial Dragons kinda have a thing for the Figarlands, plus Shamrocks is the new commander of the Holy Knights, his position is commanding in of itself.
He would be a assurance to have especially since the gorosei aren't well known for their combat prowess.

[glass plume]

Yeah, I assume that they view him as a sort of hero of the people.
Not only is he a prodigy on his own right but he is also a relative of the Figarland family like you said.

[dense haven]

remember when people said dragon was attacking the holy land

[buoyant comet]

He still is he's just not directly attacking it

[glass plume]

Could even tie into the idea of Shanks and Shamrock both being children of destiny.

[buoyant comet]

It's a blockade just surround your enemies and prevent supplies from reaching em

That way they starve or make irrational decisions

[thin quest]

Shamrock was using an advanced form of Haki to cancel his presence on Elbaph so I assume this is probably an application of the observation killer conqueror's haki Oda mentioned in a SBS

[dense haven]

ah yea the lack of lobster surely will show em

[glass plume]

I don't think Shamrock was the only one who hid his presence though.

[buoyant comet]

Whats even more interesting is the fact that Gunko could do that too

Gunko and shamrock are both COC users

I'm glad we finally have a new female female coc user

[thin quest]

it's curious to me because I think she probably is wielding partly due to the special contract Imu appears to have with her

we've not been explicitly told what contract she has but it's probably the same level as the Gorosei or maybe even a special level beyond

[glass plume]

Abyssal I assume.

[thin quest]

at minimum for sure

[glass plume]

Abyssal is the highest one, if i remember correctly.

I wouldn't be surprised if both Gunko and Shamrock have abyssal, while the other God Knights have the depths covenant.

[thin quest]

yes, and if I'm remembering correctly it's mentioned that only 6 people can receive that level right? Or is it only 5?

[glass plume]

13 exclusive individuals at the time of Harald enlisting.

[thin quest]

okay so 5 + 8

there's still something special about Gunko though

[glass plume]

Definitely.

[thin quest]

Imu seems particularly good at using and controlling her

[glass plume]

She seems to serve the role of a maiden to Imu.

[thin quest]

Almost like a royal hostage situation, Imu keeps her close because she's meaningful for some reason.

Which as we know she's a princess of whatever island/country Brook used to be a royal guard member of

[glass plume]

Yeah, maybe there was something special at that island.

[thin quest]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking, Brook thinks she killed the king

wonder if Brook served as like an Igaram role for her

[glass plume]

Could be..

[fast pagoda]

Mamamaaa

[dense haven]

[glass plume]

Wonder what this is about.

[zenith ingot]

franky fifth strongest member now?

[glass plume]

I don't even know if they are refering to Shamrock or the chapters ending as it had the mural in it.

[formal wagon]

3rd

Zoro Jinbei Franky Sanji Luffy

[glass plume]

Or it's most likely chapter 1137 which was titled "Introducing Shamrock"
And that didn't have any mural at the end, so yeah... I wonder what's so important

The chapter after that was the harley one..

Damn, rereading it now I didn't notice before that it said that the earth god had the serpent of hellfire like a pet i assume?..

[grand flower]

Shueisha is so unserious

[grand flower]

I interpret this to mean a volcanic cataclysm almost wiped out life

People likened natural disasters to gods when we didn’t understand the former

[glass plume]

That could be it as well.

[grand flower]

Earth god because magma comes from the earth

Darkness ans death spread = ash cloud blocking out the sun

[glass plume]

Though the depiction of Nidhoggr as well as a serpent makes one wonder if there's a serpent fruit out there as well.

Maybe something that Imu has in their reign.

[grand flower]

Super volcanic eruptions can cause perpetual winters

Plants don’t grow and such

Serpent of hellfire = the magma erupting in a ring around the earth

[prisma idol]

What's the issue here

[glass plume]

That's what happened with the early dinosaurs if i remember correctly.

[hot cairn]

I’m confused, whats going on here?

[grand flower]

According to Nami, the red line is both like a series of interconnected islands and continents

Also according to Nami, islands form from volcanoes

Serpent of hellfire cooled down into the red line, the serpent soaked in blood

There’s a string of very powerful volcanoes in the pacific called the ring of fire

That’s why Oda bothered to have Zoro note that kings fire was like magma

The association between Lunarian and the red line

[grand flower]

I think the current theory is that the asteroid impact knocked up an immense cloud of ash, yeah

[glass plume]

I still think that there's a physical serpent of hellfire out there somewhere.
Though what you say could still hold truth as well, it could be a combination of the two.

[grand flower]

It had the same effect as those super volcanoes

[grand flower]

Oh I think it’s both

People recounting the legend as the hellfire serpent

As generations spread the legend, a serpent of hellfire devil fruit ends up conjured

[glass plume]

Which probably took the mantle as Jormangundr.

A world serpent/wyrm.

[grand flower]

Yeah that makes sense

Jormangundr is supposed to encircle the world and bite its own tail

[glass plume]

Yup.

In the same sense as Oda made Nighoggr associated with lightning, Jormangundr could as easily be associated with fire.

[formal wagon]

bluh that makes blense

ace novel hype

[grand flower]

Which could be the pay off to Elbaph’s weaknesses

If it’s not big mom

Or both

[glass plume]

Yeah, true.

Nidhoggr and Jormangundr, that's Elbaphs weakness

Would also explain why they're having a feud in the mural.

Maybe a fight broke out which caused the destruction of Elbaph in some manner, between the two beasts.

Maybe the underworld of Elbaph was made by these two beasts clashing?

[grand flower]

I was wondering about this the other day

The way they seem to be blasting each other

Also

That could explain why Hajrudin wanted the fire logia

[glass plume]

Yuup.

[grand flower]

To play the role of the hellfire serpent since Loki has the lightning dragon

[formal wagon]

what if wapol ate the elbaf tree

[grand flower]

Maybe Hajrudin ends up eating the hellfire serpent fruit

[formal wagon]

eagerly awaiting your response,
-elbaf appears in april

[grand flower]

Franky did say countries have risen and died around the tree before

[glass plume]

Or it's already eaten by someone, maybe Dragon? or even the likes of Shamrock.

[glass plume]

Yeah I remember that as well.

The Red-Force may even have a depiction of Jormangundr as it's figure head.

[grand flower]

I was thinking dragon too

[thin quest]

but Dragon is associated with wind and thunderstorms though

[grand flower]

That’s a good point

[glass plume]

Though I don't know why Dragon would end up against Loki, if we're going by history repeating itself in some manner.

[grand flower]

I do think he’s coming to Elbaph tbh

[grand flower]

Oh that’s a good catch

[thin quest]

if lightning is a natural enemy of Imu then it makes total sense that Dragon would seek a power that gives him the ability to control lightning in some way

a wind logia would in theory be a way for that

[timber glacier]

Dont think Imu's weakness is lighting then that would be pretty

[glass plume]

I feel like Dragon will probably have some sort of mythical zoan which grants him the ability to manipulate weather as he sees fit.

[timber glacier]

Meh

[thin quest]

I don't wanna say like the true weakness

[timber glacier]

Or a para

[grand flower]

YEA

[thin quest]

but lightning might be associated with the ancient kingdom or maybe it interferes with the abyss

not a silver bullet but a serious negative for Imu

[glass plume]

I mean that would explain why the Ark Maxim is on the mural, lol

[thin quest]

once again I find myself in a mood to reread Skypeia

[glass plume]

Such a great arc.

[timber glacier]

Ya alot of call backs to that arc

[thin quest]

it's just chock full of allegory, metaphor, and foreshadowing

[glass plume]

Lei-Gong would be a sick fruit for Dragon

Oda could easily combine all these assistants into his arsenal.

Making for the weather controlling aspect.

[thin quest]

the drum is interesting

[timber glacier]

Think Yokai might be an abyss only powerup

[thin quest]

man there is so much plot fruit left to pick and idk how Oda is gonna reveal it all in time

[timber glacier]

but their was a Nue Devil fruit in that one movie

[glass plume]

There's so much cool mythology out there.

[clever idol]

Dragon is Sky Man

Sky Man Logia

It good

[iron oriole]

no Dragon is a Sylph

Mythical Logia

[grand flower]

Nigga wearing booty shorts

[iron oriole]

damn i need that Brook card

[thick mango]

Omg the blue ace deck doesn't need another 12k whitebeard

Oh jk that's the one that already exists

[grand flower]

Hoo boi this new job got my pits STANKIN

[grand flower]

Say less

[hot cairn]

I think it’s definitely wind related

[timber glacier]

does Zoro face look a bit weird? or just me?

[hot cairn]

ohhh yea I could see this

[grand flower]

it was a shoo in for me when he told kuma let the winds of fate guide him

maybe dragon's base power is wind manipulation

the awakening lets him alter air pressure with wind, inducing weather phenomena

[hot cairn]

yep, 100% that’s the reason I think the same thing

[grand flower]

yeah either that or dragon stay farting

[hot cairn]

that feels like such an important line

[grand flower]

A friend of mine was telling me

he thinks garp's backstory will be our first real reveal of the meaning of D

Since the Monkey D family really embody that freedom shit

The way Dragon was so accomodating to Kuma was something I brought up

[latent hamlet]

Ok but is it specifically wind power
Or MYTHICAL ZOAN HUMAN HUMAN MODEL: FUJIN

[grand flower]

"If Kuma didn't want to tell us, leave it be" is another example

[latent hamlet]

Mythical Zoan God Fruit
Susano

[dapper tree]

My newest ones

[thick mango]

nice that kuma is worth a lot

it gets run in like every yellow deck

[dapper tree]

Niceeee

[thick mango]

40 bucks despite just being a normal sec not alt art or anything

[dapper tree]

Oh I thought it was like 25

Even better

[thick mango]

probably 25 japanese. english cards more expensive

[brittle basin]

that price doesn't surprise me. the kuma is pretty much full art most likely with foil and texture. and if it's being played, even more so

overall, TCGs are priced horribly, but i'm not surprised

[thick mango]

+2 total life, 7k power, for only 6 cost. Theres a lot of good \

both seven warlords and RA are relevant types

[brittle basin]

but for me, it's all about the art. i have no desire to play the game. i mostly collect the japanese cards

[dapper tree]

The store near me sells Japanese packs for like 4 to 6 bucks

[brittle basin]

sounds about average. $5 is ideal to me by today's standards

[dapper tree]

I struggle to buy cards at all cause of scalpers and rabid fans

[brittle basin]

make your life easier and cheaper by purchasing singles

[dapper tree]

But ain't no one buying those Japanese packs

Never, I must gamble

[brittle basin]

that makes sense

i believe in you

[dapper tree]

[glass plume]

OPTCG pocket when?

[thick mango]

There is a sim but idk if it's on phone

It's just a unity game so it could be in theory. But it's a different ux flow so who knows if the dev got around to it

#games message

[spice cairn]

Im playing PW4

So unfortunately I can't take you up on that

[glass plume]

If only PW4 would cover manga content...

We could've had the elders, Loki, Harald, Rocks, Shamrock, Killingham, Sommers, Gunko and possibly even Imunko.

Hell make Emeth playable too.

[still mason]

Let my man breathe bro

[pulsar path]

Do they show haj at the end with his helmet off in dressrossa manga? They did in the anime

[pulsar path]

Wait lol

[dapper tree]

Just wait until PW5 Empires

[grand flower]

ye

[pulsar path]

I hate to be that guy but any one got a screen grab fork the manga

Let me see if Google has it first

Google sucks!

Where and why was kaido on balloon terminal

[trim lily]

fun

he thought itd be cool to try jumping off a sky island

[rich hornet]

Purely for aura farming

Can Kaido fly into space?

Like if a balloon can get you to the moon, what’s stopping a dragon from going all the way up there?

[formal wagon]

just when you think vegetables can't call
onions rings

joke i saw on my phone

lmk

[clever idol]

Fuji could get there

[thick mango]

Maybe the idea is logia don't need air unless their element would

[spice cairn]

Ok so

Next arc

Blood Logia

Its coming

[trim lily]

thats his break in case of emergency

[spice cairn]

That emergency is soon

Nami trips on a rock accidentally and her mouth lands on the fruit

[dense haven]

emergency break? is oda sick?

[spice cairn]

Yeah Oda is dying

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-hospital-boulder-rock-earth-elemental-gif-7467216631534515949

[ashen rose]

Powerscalling the bible is fun

[grand flower]

Chariots>God

God is also 0-1 in jungle hobo wrestling

[ashen rose]

Nah I'm talking which angel is the strongest (Michael obviously) and why humans got so weak suddenly

[spice cairn]

This sounds like Dressrosa

[ashen rose]

Adam lived to 800 years

[spice cairn]

Nah im talking about which Doflamingo goon is the strongest {Sugar obviously} and why the residents got terrorized suddenly

[wraith mantle]

Chapter week soon

[spice cairn]

Chapter week soon

You know what we should do?

Remember Kyros

AH FUCK

I posted Panda stream

[past nebula]

one piece men are so same-y sometimes that i thought that was ideo for a second

[dense haven]

does samael count or is he a fraud

[spice cairn]

Who the fuck is Ideo

Is that the long arm guy

[ashen rose]

I thought that was dragon for a sec

[past nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/ideo-ideo-one-piece-one-piece-long-arms-dressrosa-gif-8801236267127808045

[spice cairn]

Ah ok so long arm man

[ashen rose]

I'll get on it

[dense haven]

I hate the dressrosa cast so much

[ashen rose]

He also looks like that centaur guy from drum island

[trim lily]

it did have a lot of freaks in it

[spice cairn]

I hate Rebecca but I like Kyros

[dense haven]

cant help but feel some visceral disgust looking at them

[spice cairn]

Scarlet died for our sins

[dense haven]

kyros is good

[past nebula]

sometimes I remember the age gap and oughhhhhhhhh

[ashen rose]

He's not cannon to the bible

[past nebula]

[ashen rose]

But he is pretty cool

[spice cairn]

Kyros saved Dressrosa

[dense haven]

so its just bible lore

[trim lily]

real bible heads read the non canon materials too

[past nebula]

I can only imagine samael as this winged snake thing because of shawn magoomi tansay

[ashen rose]

I'm not particularly well versed into Jewish lore so I suggest doing your own research

[dense haven]

the powerscaling in bibleverse is all over the place tbh, the author wasn't even trying

[spice cairn]

Can this apply to Oda?

[ashen rose]

The book of Enoch is aight IG, everyone knows the divine comedy is the real deal

[past nebula]

it's almost like it got written and translated by multiple people...

[ashen rose]

That's why preservation is so important, so many important details lost in translation are now getting passed around as facts

[spice cairn]

Oda would never

Except the 50 editors with guns aimmed at his head

[ashen rose]

He has editors but I don't think they count

[dense haven]

dante or oda whos the biggest self inserter

[spice cairn]

They don't generally no.

[ashen rose]

Dante for sure

Not even close

[past nebula]

dante is easily the most iconic self insert guy

[dense haven]

skill issue, oda also has editors and op is mostly fine

[ashen rose]

Mf would write you getting flows like a kite with your intestines as strings because you ate his sandwich in middle school

[past nebula]

also his wife and daughter sometimes

it's because of oda's daughter liking osomatsu-san that sanji ended up having a bunch of siblings with different colors

[ashen rose]

Dante's inferno is just like modern day Isekai:

Slavery

Busted self insert who's characters glaze everytime

Political power fantasy of the author

[spice cairn]

What if we remade it

Into Kyro's inferno

[ashen rose]

Ultrakill already exists

Dmc too

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dante-devil-may-cry-9

[ashen rose]

And Dante's inferno (the game)

[past nebula]

I don't want to read a story about kyros taking a trip to hell dude

[ashen rose]

What about a trip to space? (Heaven is in space in the divine comedy)

[dense haven]

hell arc with kyros and zoro

[ashen rose]

Who would be Vergil?

Mihawk?

[spice cairn]

I mean

He been through hell

And he came back

[past nebula]

kyros and zoro go to a suspiciously spins wheel uhhhhhhh portugal-shaped island

[dense haven]

bogard reminds me of vergil

[ashen rose]

"NO NOT EUROPE, PLEASE ANYWHERE BUT EUROPE NOOOOOO"

[ashen rose]

Who the fuck is Bogard?

[wraith mantle]

Who’s excited for chapter week

[elfin arrow]

50 chapters into elbaph and still 0 usopp feats🫩💔

[spice cairn]

50 chapters into Dressrosa and still no Burgress feats

See? Now you know how I feel

Those who don't know suffering shall learn what it feels to suffer

[wraith mantle]

50 chapters into egghead and still no kizaru feats 💔

[spice cairn]

Brother

[ashen rose]

The difference is that one is a character who's been through us since the beginning and has been teased to be important to this arc, the other if burgess

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/imman-yeahimman

[spice cairn]

Burgress been with us since Jaya

So that's almost as long

[cunning narwhal]

oda saw opla s2 and remembered usopp used to do stuff. dont worry

[ashen rose]

I think you forgot the part where this was teased to be HIS arc in particular, plus I doubt there's anything oda can do, the arc is at it's climax already

[trim lily]

this is burgess’ arc

you won’t believe what he’ll do in the heaven realm

[spice cairn]

Ok so

What if I told you the next arc is a big Burgress tease

[ashen rose]

How so?

[wraith mantle]

Predictions for next chapter??

[distant vine]

His what...

[stray prism]

devil fruit powers

[grand flower]

@digital spear FUCK WITH MEEEE

YA YEET YA!

[fast pagoda]

I mean we all knew

I just hope it's a Logia

or a Paramecia

[distant vine]

Oh yeah a Zoan is intolerable ofc

[fast pagoda]

I dont think we need any more new mythical zoan type stuff in this story except for Garling and i guess the other gods

[grand flower]

Paramecia ran the game for like 15 years

We’ll be aight

[fast pagoda]

I agree but you cant deny weve gotten a ton of mythical zoans the past 6 years

[digital spear]

Morj video?

[grand flower]

Don’t be ridiculous

That’s a REAL critic

[fast pagoda]

Which is fine they're awesome but there's so little new Logias being introduced

Or regular zoans for that matter

Only one I can think of is Stussy who we barely got to see and the model only was confirmed in a SBS

[grand flower]

I find em pretty cool so I’m biased

Our first myth zoan wasn’t till Marineford

[elfin arrow]

Ur comparing a main cast to a side cast💔

[grand flower]

Then they didn’t pop back up till Wano

I guess I haven’t gotten sick of em csuse I’ve been reading a while

They still feel fresh to me

[fast pagoda]

Yeah they are very cool

and I like that Oda is doing ones of non-Eastern creatures as well

[grand flower]

Mars’ is Eastern rihht?

I really like his

But that’s cause I love parrots

Had one as a kid

[fast pagoda]

All the Gorosei are except Ju Peter for some reason

https://tenor.com/view/im-nothing-like-yall-nothing-like-yall-im-nothing-like-yall-fish-fish-meme-gif-7279072448778168854

Ju Peter ^

[iron oriole]

Gorosei being Yokai & then theres Ju Peter just chilling as a Mongolian Death Worm

I kinda respect it

[spice cairn]

Ussop is a side cast yes

[iron oriole]

Is that you YC?

[digital spear]

yeah. Im a filthy westaboo

Im sorry you had to learn this way

[iron oriole]

[spice cairn]

Oda

Week break feels so slow, im Kyros posting

[formal wagon]

fucking s*mpson dvds? really?

really??

actually?

[grand flower]

This is merry

[formal wagon]

was merry a shitssons fan?

surely not

[grand flower]

He probably likes Lois

[formal wagon]

who doesn't

"he probably likes ice cream"

[grand flower]

Even at my lois im still a family guy

[formal wagon]

real asf

[trim lily]

call me peter the way i griffin

[latent hamlet]

looked at some LA little garden stuff
so apparently sanji just tells Croc "i killed your unluckies, im mr prince" in a nutshell

interesting change

[formal wagon]

i just watched the first episode of the live action. Currently it seems like the inaki acting hate is just one of those nebulous internet hivemind takes that climbs into people's ears like a worm

mackenyu's acting was actually better for real though

[digital spear]

he doesnt pretend to be Mr. 3?

[formal wagon]

rudd was the worst

[latent hamlet]

they mostly complain that its not how they view luffy

personally, i think luffy is just some1 that if he genuinely existed IRL, you'd hate him

[iron oriole]

People are just upset that its not them playing Luffy

[formal wagon]

of episode 1 at least

[latent hamlet]

at first he did

but then the unluckies jumped him, he had a bit of a difficult time but won

[formal wagon]

maybe im immune to this as a luffy hater 😭

[latent hamlet]

and then it seems he goes and says fuck it, your pets are dead, you're talking to mr prince

[digital spear]

Aura

[formal wagon]

when buggy was saying all that shit about how luffy should die in episode one i felt so seen

[latent hamlet]

and croc was like "then know that the SHs will regret taking the princess, and you will regret taking this call mr prince"

tbh idunno how to feel about this change
but they did show a cut of croc losing his patience with repeated finger taps

[trim lily]

so true

buggy was made for the fans

[latent hamlet]

so whether they keep it to the original or not, croc would have already been peeved for being put on hold lol

[formal wagon]

what if oda replaced croc with a new character named grok and instead of sand powers he had the aika devil fruit that gave him the powers of ai

[latent hamlet]

i think luffy is arguably the most difficult to act

zoro was the most clear improvement, giving him more dry humor

[formal wagon]

I think inaki is putting his heart into it and some of the others aren't

[iron oriole]

Girl Whale is the best line ever

[latent hamlet]

and him being lost but not in an obnoxious but like a

"you lost?"
".....no....."

[formal wagon]

like most of the ship scenes felt like a highschool play

[digital spear]

grokodile

[formal wagon]

also, i had seen a lot of clips before and the acting is much harder to watch when you're not seeing the full episode

the scenes looked a lot better in the second half of the episode too, first half it looked like a cw show still

smoker and dragon were kind of uncanny

[latent hamlet]

given how much LA has spread to "normies" i wouldnt be surprised if to that audience, they think its all fine

[trim lily]

i think the conclusion i’ve come to is i just don’t like hearing luffy in english

[latent hamlet]

but we have anime/manga to compare to and we're projecting our own views onto that

[trim lily]

not a fan of how he is in dubs and not a fan of live action either

[latent hamlet]

big brain: just watch the japanese version

[formal wagon]

dub is a harder watch than LA by a mile IMO

[trim lily]

oh yeah

live action is more natural by nature of it being intended for that

[latent hamlet]

LA has the benefit of being chosen from the beginning

so if ya dont like inaki, tough luck
but at least it isnt a retrospective choice like how dubs come later

[digital spear]

Biggest brain: watch german dub of both One Piece and One Piece Liveaction (same voice actors)

[iron oriole]

Only reason you should ever watch dub One Piece is to watch clips of Ian Sinclair having the time of his playing Brook

I cant stand dub but Ian Sinclair hard carries it

[trim lily]

the LA crew having access to foresight/retrospect is probably one of the most powerful aspects of the adaptation

let’s them do some cool stuff and changes

[formal wagon]

i like the one oceania dub or sumn that made blackbeard texan

[latent hamlet]

and Oda being involved

[trim lily]

early dub blackbeard is so good

[latent hamlet]

Oda may not be the director but he's involved enough

[iron oriole]

One of the best bits of the LA is honestly the costume changes

[pulsar timber]

Opposite

[trim lily]

i still think one piece isn’t something that’s meant to be adapted to live action (nor can it really be done well) but they’ve done the best they could

[iron oriole]

Seeing the SHs in a new outfit every day etc instead of they're in the same outfit for the entire time

[pulsar timber]

It took a lot of willpower for me to finish the first episode of the second season

[latent hamlet]

i think luffy is probably the most difficult thing they've struggled with

cuz they cant spam his fruit

the others make up for it with good fight choroegraphy

[iron oriole]

Everyone should watch the LA just for Lera Abova & the "girl Whale" line

[pulsar timber]

And the vivi actor

[iron oriole]

Yeah she's okay too

[digital spear]

and the YC actor

[pulsar timber]

But yeah the dub is a much easier watch

[iron oriole]

TRUE

[trim lily]

[pulsar timber]

I don’t like luffys dub but there’s lots of dub voices I like for one piece

[formal wagon]

dub has vegeta's fuck ass voice actor

[iron oriole]

YC was so good in the LA

[formal wagon]

as zoro

[latent hamlet]

way i see it, LA aint perfect, but its a fine show.

[formal wagon]

vitrioliclly hate that guy

[pulsar timber]

And it’s good

And hype

[trim lily]

i really like kuzan and kizaru’s vas

[formal wagon]

no its not

[pulsar timber]

It is

[trim lily]

the dub has a lot of good voice actors (more recently mainly)

[blazing depot]

You watch Netflix season 2 to buy merchandise

[iron oriole]

I think its great that its getting people into One Piece who never bothered before because of the episode amount etc

[trim lily]

gives jack black action figure vibes

every 10 year old is itching to play with the aging 40 year old man figure

[latent hamlet]

yea that's one of LA's biggest reasons for existing
its another ad, but it actually works

[latent hamlet]

cuz good luck convincing some1 to read / watch one piece

[astral zephyr]

it s worth?

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/money-three-fiddy-south-park-gif-9251650

[sick dust]

I don’t think most LA watchers touched the OG source material

[fast pagoda]

Whoooose luck did you sayy

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-monkey-d-dragon-gif-15006226

[latent hamlet]

but afterwards, they'd be more willing to if they have the interest

[sick dust]

It could just be me but LA merch doesn’t look appealing to me

[ocean sigil]

Cant forget to send some live to the GOAT once a week

[blazing depot]

I think most people would agree

It’s a damn shame the Lego sets are based on LA

[sick dust]

OP as a IP has so much potential to make cool LEGO sets

Enis lobby,Onigashima,Impel down.

But best we get are LA sets

[latent hamlet]

oh
Mr 3 kills miss valentine

huh

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/spinarak-pokemon-i-still-don't-get-it-ohh-i-still-don't-get-it-langhope-gif-15774662718779923341

speaking of the LA sets, they should just turn them into a theme park or sumn

at least make baratie irl in real life. That set is dope even if they butchered the arc

😭 fucking crazy to spend a gabillion bucks on a set just to sideline the arc like they did

[latent hamlet]

WITCH, TEMPTRESS, BEGONE

[strong wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[dapper tree]

NEVER

I need jack tro get into the top 100

He's dead

So he'll never be drawn again

[dense haven]

jack will lose to usopp in the poll man

give up

[warm fossil]

forget ussop jack will lose to monet

[torn ferry]

wait did jack die

[warm fossil]

no

[dense haven]

I wish

[blazing depot]

Thank you for reminding me of best bird

God bless you

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-lick-yum-gif-8979981

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/post-this-15

[gritty shuttle]

There is a better bird

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-cp0-cp9-agent-world-government-gif-10737130467422539935

[mighty shell]

THE PIGEON

[gritty shuttle]

How could you forget

Smh my head

[mighty shell]

i would never forget about the pigeon

i've been posting about him since 2019

[ruby moat]

https://tenor.com/view/karoo-coin-one-piece-one-piece-gif-18838682

the real best bird

[dense haven]

so glad that piece of shit got cut from the live action

[rose rune]

evil

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/nami-one-piece-jadestash-vivi-namvivi-gif-1532371855335020600

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/nami-vivi-namvivi-one-piece-jadestash-gif-17386765783379609205

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/now-kith-mike-tyson-gif-13249709

[prisma yacht]

Kithing

[celest mauve]

how many times do I gotta see the same nami vivi gifs

and it's just nami chastising vivi in both

[glass plume]

Wapol's army is a freight for sure.

Looks like mutated meatballs.

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/tm-opera-o-silly-umamusume-uma-musume-meisho-doto-gif-14405579312783804827

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/tm-opera-o-lebron-james-sunshine-uma-musume-gif-12517189236470321464

[glass plume]

The casting in OPLA has knocked it out of the park.

Dalton, Kureha, Hiriluk and Wapol.

Not to mention Crocodile, what a banger casting.

Season 2 honestly exceeded my expectations.

The only con I have is that Luffy's character comes off as a bit, cringe, though that's because the character who Luffy is not because Inaki is doing a bad job persay.

[vale heath]

Thsi Luffy is a lot more willing to listen to tragic backstories, is a bit of a big departure

In that he was present and awake while Kureha was telling Chopper's

[rose rune]

actually he's actively seeking out backstories, which I'm not a fan of

"tell me everything, I need to know"

[glass plume]

A 1:1 adaptation of Luffy's character is impossible, this just proves it.

If Luffy was exactly like in the manga, i bet a lot of people would start hating him.

Especially the older people watching the series, they'd be like "who the hell does this goofy guy think he is"

[vale heath]

My primary criticism was that they took out the challenge Luffy had with Laboon
In the part where Luffy actively fights laboon, calls it a draw, and his promise is to come back to settle the score.

I guess whale combat was too expensive?

[rose rune]

I probably wouldn't be able to watch the live action at all if he was 1:1

[glass plume]

Yeah that was an odd exclusion.

[rose rune]

I think with the way luffy is portrayed it would come across as just mean

[vale heath]

It kinda fundamentally guts the Laboon scene

[rose rune]

also, luffy is a lot weaker in the live action, so he'd get clobbered by laboon

[vale heath]

In LA all he does is sing the most common sea shanty and suddenly they're friends now

[celest mauve]

LA luffy is also a weak bum compared to animanga luffy

the way he even needed help against wapol, lord help this man against crocodile

[glass plume]

One thing I thought was odd is that when Luffy fought Wapol and Wapol tried to shoot the flag, Luffy didn't redirect it with his gum gum balloon like we saw he did in season 1 against Garp.

I guess he wasn't sure if he could aim it?

[vale heath]

I don't actually mind Luffy needing help in fights

[rose rune]

he didn't balloon it in the manga either

he just took it

[glass plume]

That's true, I just felt like it was odd given how the scene was changed either way.

I guess it would've cut the tension a bit.

[prisma yacht]

robin is the best

[celest mauve]

having help in fights before crocodile doesn't sit right with me because it always felt like crocodile was his first reality check

[prisma yacht]

just saw her in ep6

[celest mauve]

(yes there was smoker too, but that's logia shenanigans)

[prisma yacht]

[glass plume]

I hope they make Crocodile just as brutal as he is in the manga.

[rose rune]

with how they made robin in the live action I feel like it's harder to justify her joining the crew

[glass plume]

I hope he totally wrecks Luffy the first time, etc.

[celest mauve]

animanga luffy got stabbed through the chest and tossed to the side, LA luffy is going to be eviscerated lmao

[vale heath]

Robin does just kinda murder people in the manga too

Even after Alabasta

[celest mauve]

zoro actively kills dudes in the LA

[prisma yacht]

whats wrong

[celest mauve]

like he kills mr. 5 in this

[rose rune]

I know. zoro is a murder hobo now

[vale heath]

He always has been

[celest mauve]

clearly the SHs have no problems with murder

[vale heath]

That was literally his job

His title is "Pirate Hunter" Zoro, what did you think he did

[glass plume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-anime-75

[vale heath]

The guy with swords kills people??? 😱

[rose rune]

cut them without killing them??? like he has been doing since chapter 3 of the story?????

[prisma yacht]

not real zorp can never kill

i know him

[celest mauve]

I mean tbf, who has zoro actually killed in the manga besides the off-screened mr. 7?

[vale heath]

A lot of Wano samurai

Like, a lot

[celest mauve]

gonna be honest, I don't remember when that happened lol

[vale heath]

Before Luffy arrived in Wano

[celest mauve]

at the start of the arc? he might've killed that magistrate or whatever

[rose rune]

he cuts people, but they never die from it

[vale heath]

Zoro got framed for murder and escaped by murdering people trying to apprehend/kill him for it

[glass plume]

The breath of all things and all that.

That's why he doesn't kill everyone who he slices i guess.

Zoro in the live action hasn't learnt of it, yet.

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-gif-20520187

[rose rune]

this is the only mention I could find of it after the slice. and it doesn't even say he was killed

[glass plume]

Why are they persistent with keeping "Zolo"

[rose rune]

you gotta remember the anime added a whole scene of him chopping up random people

[vale heath]

I suppose I am interpreting but I do feel like if you quickly slashed me from crotch to head with a sword that I would die from it

Which is an action Zoro did to multiple people in his escape

[rose rune]

the only time I think it has been mentioned that he killed people is at whiskey peak I think. but I might be wrong

[mighty shell]

did he kill the baroque works member who was sent to recruit him

[vale heath]

Mr 7 yes

[rose rune]

I was wrong... he "defeated" them

[mighty shell]

my personal interpretation of zoro is he won't kill needlessly but he also doesn't care if he does end up killing people who deserve it