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Just delete it already
rude
i like typing in caps too its fun you should try it
sry

oh no it wasnt just the caps it was the double message thing too
like LISTEN TO ME
PLEASE LISTEN TO ME
I hate this emoji
that one's awesome screw you
!urucrew
it's trademarked at this point
CHAT YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT
CHAT YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT
CHAPTER IS OUT or something
Every time I see someone use this emoji I think it's room
that is what you would say, if the chapter was out...
I HAVE THE CHAPTER

genuinely hate this one
I HAVE THE CHAPTER
how did you know?
Its in the emoji slots against my will, I would remove it if people werent using it
so many better emotes
lost
I have it associated with rooms entire personality
and that terrible one remains
It's so sad that Carrot chad is nitro only
because we dont want to delete the emotes
this one is the one I dislike the most
so they are shifted into the very unused gif emote slots
along with 
is great wtf
I don't really mind that one
certified #manga
I'm neutral on it
!?

the only good emoji manga uses more than also manga is 
I remember instantly wanting that as an emote when the chapter came out, I think #manga was the only manga channel back then so technically true
wtf. it snuck into my "frequently used" list

⬛

one of my favorite moments from the raid too
is in my frequently used
It didn't fit well
great thinking emoji
he's such a hypeman
Coolest
the raid starts off so so great that it genuinely convinces you that youre about to witness the greatest thing to ever grace the pages of the manga
that one looks moldy
this emoji speaks "hehe nerds wsg"
I was satisfied
well it was fine
I wonder, if Law used that body swap power on Brook, would it still work 
oda on the SBS: ehhhhhhh hmmmm I dunnnooooo
Never saw someone use it
A person who thinks
probably cuss noone wants to "reee" 😭
Reeeeeeee
imma firin my breath




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wtf it doesnt work anymore
:widebei3:
/:widebei3:
wow

This is kinda crazy that the entire fandom missed this
When oda shortened Davy Jones name at the end he wrote it as D. Jones
finally the elusive first name D
ummm wait could this mean Davy is short for D
are we on break this week?
im not telling
That’s been one of the theories since GV
Rocks said someone will inherit Davy’s will and fulfill and the promise so it could be the Will of Davy
But the giants call it Half Moon so it could be something else connected to something moon related
it kinda is tho
well
yall liked the live action?
what was the song hiriluk and chopper were humming
Im spacing it out
The start of rooftop man...
the start of roofpiece is one of the best parts of the entire series
op was all downhill from there and never recovered
And then you do
Wano is actually so tightly constructed when you don’t have shallow takes in your ear
spittin
Like people talk about Onigashima being bloated but every group there serves a purpose
And then practically every chapter ever is some of the most cinematic things that you see in one piece
oda better not change this design when we get the void valley flashback
he better stick to his word and keep this old geezer as davy jones
He’ll be his younger version
void valley
Finally got to OPLA. Only 1 episode though. Great start, every character was great. Buggy was channeling his best Joker. Smoker had great action scenes even if he was a bit flat acting wise. Like the change with giving Tashigi a little something more. Robin was fantastic, she joins Sanji with having a great accent. Nami, Usopp, and Sanji were all BETTER than their originals. And loved the cameos that were a surprise, though one makes me very sad 😭
The only problem weirdly was Luffy himself, who felt more like a caricature than a character. He felt stiff, flat, and one-note. Even his famous scaffold scene was completely cringe.
All in all, great beginning. I'll have to get to episode 2 later tonight or tomorrow.
fuck
Should I watch the live action…
yes
If I ask how come theres a conversation about Oda including proactive elements in his manga because it’s geared to a younger audience but not about including violent elements that are just as inappropriately mature
Yall gon jump me?
probably
@hot cairn @ashen perch another reason I think rocks is fire scar
We’ve had figures waiting for nika or Joy boy
Why can’t I tag YC
With what rocks said to Imu, there should be the same for Davy
Who else are worshippers
I think it makes sense to have someone waiting for the rise of Davy again
I think fire scar, if he’s not Rocks or a Davy himself, is a worshipper of Davy as well
It’s the last place that makes sense for a major disciple of Davy I think
That or lodestar
The last remaining figure relates directly to finding that treasure and becoming king who changes the world
nah i live for uncomfortable moments like this
hot take: people dont really like luffy oda just put something in the air that TRUE one piece readers are immune to
I hate Luffy Oda
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what
the hell
i pressed regional indicator W not that garbage
🇦
🇦 🇦
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wtfg
I’d like to see more of your art Marxy
idk, I dont see Rocks being alive honestly but someone waiting for Davy’s return sound cool
I just can’t help but think
Garp AND Roger
Fire moves
For the first time and only time
At the same time
WHY
Finally a golden one 💃
Wapol slapping the shit outta her made me lol idk why
kid vivi I mean
Yeah like I said before, I don't dislike the idea but it does clash with my own, more simpler one so I will just disagree
Yours is that fire scar is Chou Chou rihht?
close
My queen
How much longer is Meeks mute
whats the site to vote on
its in pins
vote ragnir
Bro said carrot
truly a waste
is she coming back Fed
Yea
Break week
break week
This nigga Garp is really just a Navy pirate
Aint that the nigga from dressrosa
Yes
I see
His name is Kyros
kyros fans when they forget him after he's turned back into a toy after doffy's comeback: 😦
RELATABLE ONE PIECE STATEMENT
@hot cairn @ashen perch @digital spear if anyone ever tells you Oda doesn't care about fans putting thought into the goroawase
rest in piece evil buggy, he would've loved this
"Oda doesn't draw unique weird women" and here go Stewie Griffin and Hey Arnold
This is the depth of gorowase. Cute references
if you think so
"i'm really glad you guys are putting a lot thought into some bullshit"
It’s for fun, thats a good reason, isnt it?
I just don’t buy this idea that Oda is laying some elaborate coded messages spanning decades
He actually is
The names of the SHs' DFs are based on a elaborate pattern of goroawase most notably, and it actually continues to be consistent because no non 2,9-er has been allowed in
arsal do you use gomu or hito for luffys df
Gomu
Even if the devil fruit thing is true, that’s still in the realm of fun reference, not what shuron is talking about
the image i posted directly shows that Oda has plot relevance tied to this stuff
this is how he responds when fans are onto something
This is the depth of gorowase
There's also the number 16, its a fascinating number
Its Nami's first bounty
Its the East Blue Naval branch that Nezumi belongs to
Its the amount of times that Luffy rings the Ox bell in Marineford
That is seen as a sign of challenging the authority of the world government itself
Its the amount of times a Celestial Dragon shoots a 5 year and a 2 year old child
Its the ultimate attack of Doflamingo
Its literally I-Mu
In chapter 1060, Imu nukes Lulusia
Just off the top of my head
?
I'm forgetting some things here
you think i got time to talk to somebody who's about to just repeat themselves and ignore what's inconvenient to them?
I suggest a journal
Really no greater sign of goroawase's significance is Oda's obsession with the number 16, and how it actually is linked very closely together if you think about it
is this hidden Nerona Nami agenda
It goes even deeper because the word Imu itself has multiple meanings as well, on top of the 16 thing
Perhaps
When you start to associate chapter events with gorowase in the chapter numbers, that’s typically where you’ve waded into tinfoil land.
Not that Oda never plans that stuff. There are obviously a few numbers he pays special meaning too
There's been cases of that too though
Cases. It’s not ubiquitous
And when it happens it’s a reference to something that can easily be understood on its own. Not some cryptic hint to a double meaning
I wonder if this will go anywhere in the story
at this point i hope not, who franky’s father is isn’t really an important detail
well ofc, but Oda pays close attention to things like this and its not really silly to do so as a fan as well
Mmm I don’t think so
Can it be over thought by the fans? Yeah, but everything that I pointed out for example, is like quite clear
In your example is the number 16 relevant by itself or is it because of a gorowase?
Oda doesn't really require the average reader to care but its still a thing that he very obviously does, so its fine if people want to look deeply into it
16 is I-Mu, I is 1 and Mu is 6
Thats goroawase
Ah of course
The Nami connection remains to be seen but the things like Doffy’s attack are pretty clear
Again, I’m not saying we should shut down any convo about gorowase. But when it’s the entire basis on your theory why one piece is about the Easter bunny, it’s time to stop and reevaluate
When Brannew for example said "ringing the bell 16 times is a direct challenge to the authority of the World Government", that was a goroawase detail that Oda still hasn't fully confirmed but we can make that conclusion for ourselves at this point
Oh yea the Nami thing isn't confirmed but it stands out...
That's the big related to goroawase theory I like so I just wanted to include it
I like these things that only make sense in retrospect. Like no one is going to read that and conclude someone name imu exists, but a keen eye on a reread can pick out where Oda was laying a connection all along
No it’s not
You literally admitted plot sometimes happens from them
All that means is the theory has a higher chance of being wrong
But it’s still a valid theory
i do agree that it shouldn't necessarily be the only basis of a theory though, like for example with the Nami thing, there's more to it ofc
Yeah, like Doflamingo telling Tsuru about just one throne that is still empty, you'd never be able to conceive what he's referring to at the time but it all clicks in place now
At the time, that obviously seemed like it was about the PK lol, but then Oda literally introduced the empty throne 
Especially because bounties are the easiest way to associate a number with a character.
It’s just a good creative exercise, too. If you need to make up a bunch of numbers as an author, it’s nice to have a method to generate them. When I was big into worldbuilding, and I needed to make up some historical dates, I’d use gorowase so the years some how related to the events
Oh that reminds me of BB's bounty, it contains the goroawase for San Kokoro (3 hearts) and well, who knows, maybe it is hinting at something. The bounty number is too specific for it to be a coincidence. He could easily be a flat 3.9b but he's worth 3.996B
Stuff like that has to mean something. Like rogers 5,564,800,000
Yupp
Kid's says "Ghost of Jonah" btw
friendly reminder chat
Ooh one more thing I just remembered. The conclusion of Onigashima is predicted by The Tower, which is the number XVI (16) tarot card, representing upheaval of the status quo, change, chaos, the beginning of a crisis, awakening, transformation and sometimes liberation. Not really connected with Imu but it can be said to be whats in opposition to him.
Imu would be the inverted Tower card I guess so it does still work
Oda loves the number and number things, to put it simply
😭
I need to too. I want to see how Onigashima holds up in a binge. But I’m still not fully over the fatigue
not a fan of Wano?
its alright
its in the top 15 for sure but idk if its in the top 10\
top 15 is a pretty low bar i guess
it’s been almost 4 since Wano ended, wild
I did reread it already back when it concluded but I'm now holding off any reread that isn't a full series reread
it’s def in the top 10 for me
I've just been forgetting too much, it hurts my ability to theorise
It is good though, that's my sincere take on it, definitely the most outright flawed big arc in the series
But still good
The flaws mostly hit back to back in the end, so the after taste is off. But the experience as a whole makes up for it
if that’s the case wouldn’t it be better to reread now? So you can theorise
pretty good
I think the highs are too high
so it outweighs the bad
but I’m glad Oda made an arc like this before Final War
Yeah I think if I really look back at it, the overall experience was good. As time passes, the lows start to fade from the mind and start to seem just... less significant as well to some extent
he’ll know how things can be better and learn from his mistakes
Yea, but I wanna reread the entire series, which is a significant task
I'll get to it eventually, maybe if Oda takes another month long break anytime soon...
It takes me a month at least nowadays
Yeah that's how long it took me last time
we need one so we can do another popularity poll
IF WE GET ANOTHER MONTH BREAK WE MIGHT GET ROAD TO VIRA
that too
a golden opportunity
golden like vira 
okay pal
I laughed
gen z is trying to cancel funkemonke
this break week is tuff
@ashen perch
oh god
IM BAAAAAAACK
cancel culture comes for the northern pike
Whenever you get the time I’m really curious on all your actual issues about Wano, for someone who usually dickrides everything Oda does it greatly surprises me that you’re so critical of what I consider his best work, it feels rather out of character
It's arguably the 2nd best post ts arc
man marked by flames 🔥 🔥 💯
wano is only bad if you read it weekly
It’s my 2nd favorite post time skip arc after WCI but mostly interchangeable for me
imagine if burn scar is a new guy
(just my interpretation)
I’m curious too, I think I’ve heard some of his complaints but I’ve never seen him do a deep dive about it
i would hope he is at this point
whats the first
other than sunbell i haven’t seen a single possibility i’ve liked
hey look its burned man
imagine this: 
cuh
it could be him
NOT HAPPENING
oda might be a big new vegas fan
japan loves fallout for some reason lol
like mamoru oshii is apparently a fallout 4 addict
who is mamoru oshii
ghost in the shell and angel's egg director
new vegas more liiiiike...... ZOO VEGAS ?what
Ghost in the shell 1995?
yeah the movie version
Id figure cyberpunk would be more their speed lol
Maybe they like the base building
wci
Where do you guys think the Live Action will stop?
Since it obviously won’t be able to complete One Piece in its entirety, so what arc do you guys think they’ll end with?
Some people think Skypiea, some people think Summit War, I personally think Enes Lobby
Post marineford if they go hard on maximizing arcs per season, w7/enieslobby seems like another possibility
I think Enies Lobby is the most realistic option, but Summit War is my biggest hope.
I have no idea how far they would get if they go past Marineford
I thought ennies lobby was the best case scenario but s2 being good got me hoping maybe it can go further
probably enies lobby because i think opla is going for the ending that oda originally planned before he expanded the world so much
Depending on the popularity
And how much time they take to make each season
I'm saying they'll drag it to end of sabaody where they'll recast the entire crew afterwards 👀
skypiea reveals information, long ring long island is where the one piece is
Next season they will cover entirety of alabasta
timothee chalamet as zoro
The rock as jinbe
Zoro fans are eating far too well, I wish them to starve a little.
either next season or after next season ,we will get jaya arc
Skypiea will get another season
evil tyrant
evil oil baron
Jaya will just take a few episodes imo
Most inaccurate Zoro ever
zooey deschanel as zoro
I wouldn't mind if they play around a bit more
I can see potentially two episodes for that, then the rest of the season just being Skypiea.
Idk who that is
i can see one episode
Id say my ideal casting is Timothee Chalmet as a guy who isn't cast in movies anymore
They may as well introduced gorosei at the end of next season with the ending of alabasta to pump the fans excitement with their mysteriousness
Like I know that Skypiea is one of the longer arcs, but I think it could be chopped down to being around six episodes if they keep this eight episode format
She could be a good tashigi
willem dafoe as nami
Probably not, but I imagine they want the finale of season 3 to be taking down crocodile and the whole hand thing.
It’s the most satisfying way to do it
heeheheheee
Indeed
I want s3 to end with them introducing gorosei
So, Alabasta is longer than it needs to be, because there’s no other satisfying way to end the season.
That will be best way to end s3
It'll probably be a not real cast tease like smoker s1
mr croco connoisseur
Yes, my child
what are your thoughts on cross guild
Maybe they will extend ace role in live action
what do you think their purpose is eos
Mixed.
I like it a lot, it’s a way to make the Warlords Important in the final arc of things and of course more Crocodile is always a good thing.
My only issue is that Crocodile’s Dream has always been about becoming the pirate king.
But here with the cross guild it seems that he’s settled for just simply taking over an island and ruling it,
When it shouldn’t be the case since his ‘wound’ has finally healed
They will dissolve is my expectation
They will continue to find unlikely success and grow in members and power but eventually there will be too many competing interests for the luck of buggy leadership to keep things together
Purpose is to put players into position, such as Zoro vs Mihawk, disruption, and just adding a wild card to the chase of the One Piece, while also making sure to keep certain fan favorite characters relevant
well i think they've set it up so that buggy actually rekindles both mihawk and crocodiles dreams like how he rekindled his entire organisation's dreams to find the one piece
because that's how buggy exerts his power, through fame
and influencr
I mean yeah, but it’s unnecessary.
The conversation between Mr. 1 and Crocodile should have already shown that Croco was rekindled
that is true
Crocodile definitely has another purpose now
If anything, I would have preferred Crocodile and Mihawk pushing for the One Piece with Buggy being the unwilling participant.
But I guess it’s nice for Buggy to have his character moment
We don't know crocodile mysterious past as well
i do think though that crocodile has been a lot more methodical and safe about his approach to getting the one piece anyway so it does feel in character for him to create another organisation as he did baroque works
I’m foaming at my mouth for it
Does crocodile want the one piece anymore
Buggy wants it
I don't think crocoboy does
I think buggy shamed them into wanting it
i think crocodile does, he just doesn't like that he has to share it
I think Crocodile wants it, but buried that dream away.
he wants to have it all for himself but is forced to be in cross guild because of course he needs an organisation and that backbone
I do love how the cross guild equals one Yonko.
Buggy is the charisma, Crocodile is the brains and Mihawk is the strength
maybe you could delve into the fact that crocodile used to be a new world pirate but he actually doesn't have any of his old crew anymore
more better, it's wealth fame and power
crocodile is wealth, buggy is fame and mihawk is power
I mean a core theme of Crocodile is how he doesn’t trust anyone.
He probably got betrayed or abandoned by his original crew
true
but he trusts mr 1 a whole lot
or likes him a lot ig
i think no matter what the reason is, the fact that he turned from being a new world pirate to being in this safe haven where specifically he thrives the most because it's literally an entire desert island
It’s character development.
Mr. 1 is loyal to a fault, in fact Mr. 1 could have abandoned Crocodile but chose not to, and Crocodile knows this.
Daz only knew Crocodile for like two days and decided to ride or die, if Croco wasn’t going to leave jail when Goldenweek broke them out then neither was he
true yeah
there's still this though and i think that this implication is a compelling argument as to why he actually hasn't really changed in his ways
it turned from him needing pluton to him having the resources of all of cross guilds men and mihawk
just that buggy got involved and he hates the fact that now he has to get the one piece with a fraud
He has changed his ways.
He is a lot more direct with what he’s doing. He could’ve gone into the shadows and hid, he could have been peppering the underworld like Doflamingo did.
But he didn’t.
He established a new organization with him as the head (and they were supposed to know that he leads it until Buffy got involved)
And he openly declared war on the world government with the bounty on marines system
yeah because he has his weapon now
if not pluton, then mihawk haha
it's not a reach to say that he'd probably be doing the exact same thing if he did get pluton tbh
a weapon that can annihilate entire islands is very direct itself
i mean this is why crocodile teamed up with mihawk in the first place
he was the one that called him
Maybe, but I’m not sure if Crocodile sees it that way.
Remember that Crocodile was someone with multiple back up plans, he stacked all the odds into his favor before going out on the attack.
But he’s a lot more bold.
Maybe it’s because he has his weapon, but I think in general he has regained a lot more confidence that he lost to Whitebeard
yeah maybe
very nice talking to a crocodile fan
YAY
I won’t lie, I had a crackpot theory on Crocodile’s past that I think I believed once.
But as time went by and the manga continued, new things revealed to show that I was fully wrong
what was the theory
BEGONE
@frail kindle
Dude, for some reason I was convinced that Crocodile was Whitebeard’s Biological Daughter.
I dunno, there is an SBS where Oda says that Whitebeard is old fashioned and only brought his sons to Marineford and not daughters.
There’s the history of Crocodile and Ivankov.
There’s the resentment Crocodile has with Whitebeard.
It made sense to me at the time.
I like the fan theory that whitebeard is the reason for crocodiles missing hand and facial scar
HAHAH
What
that's fucking sick hell yeah
Yeah, but when we got more Whitebeard flashbacks I realized that the theory was dead
Is it cause whitebeard is too much of a chill guy
So this is where yall are hiding
It was revealed that Whitey Bay was originally part of Whitebeard’s crew before leaving to start her own crew.
So the whole old fashioned part of Whitebeard only lasted for an SBS
I had a theory croc was kuina tho it doesn't add up
I thought maybe he wanted Zoro so bad to join cus it was kuina . Cut her had off so she couldn't be a swords man and sliced her face but yeah naa
I think i'd prefer if Crocodile is just Crocodile.
I mean they definitely have to have some sort of thing
Idk if it's a connection or a past but something
My bet is that it's related to why they can't trust anyone.
This panel is interesting to me, as it could imply that Crocodile tried to protect something or someone in the past but failed.
Do yall think Yamato yumeships herself with Kozuki Toki
😭😭
But Whitey Bay was his acquaintance she wasn't necessarily his daughter so your theory still holds up kinda
I don't think that Crocodiles past is as shallow as him just having Daddy issues though. I feel like he's been through some shit ya know.
Do we know where Crocodile was born?
No
Not even which sea?
Damn, that's quite rare.
His Vivre Card says he's native to the Grand Line
I always thought that was just because his first appearance being on Alabasta.
Maybe but I don't doubt it that much since Crocodile speaks of the new world nostalgically
That's probably because his past adventures before he was beaten by Whitebeard.
Side note I love when miss golden week brings dreams and he has gol d Rogers outfit on
Yeah, it shows that his dream still is becoming pirate king.
And Mr. 1 wants to become a superhero, lol
I love that lol
Weird they in bw but
Man I hope someone gets oda to draw that for each character instead of good bad timeline
What their true dream is
Still number one croc theory under the son instill won't let go is crocomom
Cross guild should do something
I'd like that.
Me one is relishing in this 🤣
Tbh they are so great cross guild they could do nothing and still be great but I'm ready for some action
Give me a cross guild arc and I won't even be mad
Six chapters and a special episode 🤣
I'd like that for all the emperors.
Tbh I been kinda missing the worldly aspect during elbaf
That happened during egg head
I need a cut away to some other characters lol
We'll probably get that sometime before Elbaph is over.
I really hope the anime emphasizes how truly gigantic Elbaf is
Manga didn't do it much justice
I mean I get you but if you bast in some panels it does a great job
Man, for being in the bad timeline Crocodile is still super hot
Is it his bad timeline?
I would like to see miss all Sunday and croc reunite like I can imagine it during the final war and they cross paths walking opposite direction and some one tries to mess with them and we get a combo attack we never got during bw
Sounds like Stampede, lol
Though they didn't interact much there, given Crocodile was more interested in Law.
At least from what I remember.
Tbh one piece is so wacky with sizes that I've completely forgotten the human scale
Like we have so many 8-10 feet characters
Yeah lol and they vary with there own sizes sometimes too
Odens sword is a good example lmao
Lmao I always find the Zoro meme funny where they have the sword on him if it was the same size as Oden
yep, Oda is very inconsistent with his size scaling
Lol always felt people's size were sometimes proportionate to the wills of the character other than the main cast cus we like know they got wills already
I hope that he stays consistent that Loki remains the biggest dragon, lol
Ok after watching more LA I feel like posting my predictions for S3
Let's hear it
Also I think I've decided that I dislike what they did to Miss Goldenweek
I think that will stay that but I definitely think we are entering a dragon piece.
Odd.
Oh yeah.
But still I really think Imu is a space dragon.
I think nidhog is one of its children
Is he some kinda....celestial dragon
But dead ass exactly
Horrible joke but i had to do it
Oda had it out in the open
If so, then that's probably where the Celestial Dragon symbol stems from.
The hoof of a dragon.
Yeah I think it's just been so specific and I get it that Imu hasn't shown a lot of dragon quality but we have had some and dragons do share alot of looks with devils/ Satan
Yeah, I've been wondering why imu cares about nidhogg in particular
I think they brought dragons to the world and they used them for destruction ?

There was a serpent breathing flames on the Harley mural
I think Imu's interest in Nidhogg is mainly because they fought against Nika in the past, maybe Imu plans to domi reverse Loki here.
Maybe but if they lost to Nika once and stuff
Still worth a shot.
Yeah, they were the ones who wanted Vegapunk to recreate one, wasn't it?
I'm not sure exactly about that cus Vega seemed chummy with the green one in the flash back
Idk if that was a Vega dream or a wg dream
I wonder if he misses that dragon
Wait was Vega with the green dragonf filler
Tbh i can't remember a green dragon
- Ace will will be part of the main cast for at least most of the season
- Ace being Roger's son will be revealed (I dont like this but it seems likely)
- The Baroque Works opponents will stay the same, but I can also see Vivi, Smoker and Tashigi getting fights
- Pell is absolutely dying lol
- The Five Elders will appear at the end of the season and dialogue will hint towards the existence of Imu
It was on punk hazard it was smaller one and than at some point in the anime they showed. Vega with it but I can't recall in the manga
Same, I've never watched the anime
My only question is what will they do for usopp and choppers fight cus they killed and changed miss thursday.. that's was the mole lady right?.
Miss Thursday is just an OC
The mole lady is Miss Merry Christmas
Usopp even mentioned using a hammer against a mole monster as a lie which I think leans into the "Usopps lies become true"
Also I might be wrong but it still bothers me Zoro doesnt name his attacks lol
I wonder if the Jormangundr creature on the mural also counts as a dragon.
When his swords were on fire it woulda been perfect to hear him say Onigiri
I think they should have ace stay with them as long as possible because maybe they just going to enis Lobby but I really think they will get to ace death for sure and time skip end it right there when they leave for fishman?. Tho I see dressrossa
Idk why I though tit was smiss merry Christmas mixed with the other dude 🤣
I dont see them making it that far at all
Maybe it's dragons vs sea kings? Like sea kings wer where anti dragons
I still dont see them going past Enies Lobby
Or idk I always thought maybe the serpent was pluton
Maybe, i am starting to believe that all of the three black sillhouettes on the mural are dragons.
I just think enis Lobby would be a shitty ending point
And it's my favorite arc of anything
And we already had the whole ending for water 7 ruined
You mean the world serpent? Or I could be wrong tho
I somewhat agree
I think Marineford would be best to end it
Yeah, Jormangundr often being described as a "wyrm" which is a sub-class of a dragon.
I just am unsure if they can make it there
and even then, imagine how expensive it would be to make Impel Down and Marineford lol
I don't see that personally.
I think they can but alot of cuts I think between. Thriller and marienford
Well if it IS that then there are chances for the one on the left to be some other dragon (Which hopefully, Usopp will become)
Usopp? I'd say it would be Imu probably.
Does the serpent have dragon mark on it?
Personally it's not all nrose mythology if you ask me
Dragon's tattoo?
Yeah
Also Ik it's a not pick but I find it weird nidhogs horns are opposite
Facing
What are your thoughts on the four gods?
Do you think Dragon will be revealed as the Wind God or smtg?
Tbh the big Imu thing could be lokis hybrid but I think we see Loki there
If it's all norse mythos based, then maybe Imu would be Fafnir.
Probably, I feel like it's inevitable.
Well, leaving all this for now
Wind logia ....
I could see this tie into Imu's greed for power maybe.
Oda would be a hack for forgetting a wind logia I'm ngl
Idk instill think all the dragons are Imu children
Like it doesn't have to be some convoluted mythical zoan
I'm afraid we already have an alcohol DF 
Yep
I think the only one who'll be related to Imu will end up being Mihawk and that's not even directly.
And yeah wind logia seems about right I think that's it tho I mean wind logia sia already op op
Yeah he could just be a descendant of the nerona clan
Isn't Dracula derived from dragon
Why didn't usopp immediately went to save dorry and broggy when he was freed ?
He did a whole speech on how sad he was on what happening to dorry and broggy just to neglect them once he became free ?
Yup.
It would be crazy if Mihawk turned into a dragon no devil fruit tho
Cus like
Wtf happen with rat and ragnir
That shits weird
I mean its just a legend
so the most obvious answer would be that ragnir ate the ratatouille fruit
I don't know about that.
Maybe Yoru could have something we aren't aware of though.
or it could be literal and the ratatta literally infused itself with ragnir
Who knows
only oda he just be throwing wrenches
Yeah it's a black dragon not a black blade lol
shamrock has a dog with a birth defect for a sword. shanks has a bird for his sword. mihawk's sword is a dragon.
I wonder tho could it been like pre devil fruit? I sometimes think at least mythical and zoans may have been living beings turned into immortal devil frutis or something just cus of the whole will thing
It would be interesting tho if it was unrelated to devil fruits
yeah I'm always curious about the whole DF thing from the void century and before
You know your not wrong maybe it's s CD thing lol
I had a theory that like maybeee they went around and captured mythical beings like the Anciant kingdom and maybe that's kind what started the war even
Like idk for example I think nidhog might be Imu child if Imu is a space dragon so maybe they turned nidhog into a devil fruit and than used it against the kingdoms?
its so interesting because most of these things are spoken like legends but then you have shit like the niddhogg df that even imu knows about
and he didn't call it a df, he said niddhogg was there
Yeah that's why I'm like huh!?!?
im still not buying the whole real gods walk the earth theory
I don't think they're literal gods
You think it's just dream manifestation?
but its like how ancient people used to think there was a god that turned the night into day
and shit like that
VP already talk about this energy that for some reason is everywhere and they can turn it into anything
thats with the tech
from ages ago
Like atoms and shit
But that's can be magic too
i think its literal anything anergy
from normal stuff to magic stuff
its not IRL type energy
I mean I think it's a metaphor tho
I mean magic is just what they call shit you can't explain yet
its nota metaphor cuz lilith said elbaf was full of this
Yeah it's always in my mind me unexplained tech or science like alchemy
yeah so like some islands might have this atmosphere full of energy
Or the way that alchemy in fiction lol
well yeah im using magic as a meta word since oda dint name it yet
like how some places on earth are perfect for windmills or solar panels
since it can turn into anything = magic
I wonder if it ties into the weather too than like the energy being converted into snow or heat or what ever
like for example when lilith used the odc she turned the fire into ice, which I read as she took the energy away from the fires which turned them into ice and then used that energy to create the cola
you can argue there was beings back then that can tap into this
and im leaning towards science stuff and they turned into gods
Watch Oda never explain this whole thing. Ever again 🤣 he just added this so they could use the boots
used the energy for anything to create devilfruits
right that part
dint she combine this elbaf energy with the fire reason it can turn fire into ice
I 10000 percent believe that paramecia and logia are made exTcly like that or through some sort of process
thats not how I read it but I could be wrong
But I'm almost thinking mythical and zoans had the op op surgery used on them to them into devil fruits which are essentially immortal
cuz she said elbaf was full of energy
then starts to whip out this machine
its clear that the energy was invisible so we can only see the fire
being sucked in
Are you sure
That it wasn't being powered by the energy and the fire and ice is just what it does
Like it's a converter
that goes back tot his
Oda alluding to nuclear fission
and I think he's talking about renewable energies
things you don't have to fight for
this part is where i heavy disagree
Yet he didn't make a windmill. Vegapunk is a fraud
passive energy that you just need to invent a machine to convert into useable power
Heat can be energy
Nothing is wrong
Yeah like an energy so abundant that it's not worth fighting for
im suspecting this dialog is part of it also
World govt purposefully keeping the world 500 years behind
What egghead shows where humanity would be if world government didn't exist
why is there island clouds sea clouds and bubbles only on sun realm
Man idk if he ant oda to explain sea clouds and bubbles and stuff
see, she's collecting the heat energy
its not specifically some invisible thing
she's just talking about renewable energy
goes back to this again
Just sue a dehumidifier when you thaw
they already survived being in a lake, they'll be fine
Not all survived .
Onepeice books made different
all the ones inside the lake survived
There rubber or something
I have a theory
There will be 500 years timeskip in epilogue of one piece
im so set on this energy thing im willing to bet a weeks of mute 
lol
I'm a be real
Energy is useless
I don't think Oda will ever explain it more
It's won't come in our current timeline of story
It's will be in the future
We may see epilogue about it
Dead ass could see a vegapunk spin off
That's it
Years later like they said
do a roger spinoff first
Vegapunks who survived and escaped with their brain .
They said that it will take 500 years for humanity to access punk records
Comedy manga about science
100% for sure
oh are the fanbase still split if Emet was powered by nika or he was just sleeping?
I mean I never didn't thing Nika was powering. It
If emet was powered by nika then he would still be active
Nika seems to be a battery of sunlight
Nika trigger it's instinct
That's it
It went back down when Nika would stop
Or drum of liberation
That's weird
yeah saw some saying he was just sleeping and waiting and it happens that nika cameback and he wokeup cuz of the nika drum stuff
I mean idk
400 years ago ,he woke up on his own without nika
200
we still waiting on why emet wokeup 200 years ago
its silly but i do like the emet was one of the characters that got sent into the future
Some theory is someone awakens and died with the Nika or false awakened it
Don't think emet was send to the future
Since joyboy said to wait for the right time
Some how giants know about emmets
true
The toy he had
colon had a emet robot toy
we did saw flashback emet wearing elbaf/giant ish outfit
oh wait yeah
Emmet was the toy joyboy one from elbaf
could be as simple as that tbh
Yeah but don't they make it seem like no one ever goes and looks at the mural
No
Like Ripley made it seem like yeah idk wtf that is some dumb kids drawing or something g
Anyone can look at it
They didn't seem to think it was important
Pretty sure
Maybe they are going
Idk it seemed pretty untouched
Nobody probably allowed to touch it
But like Franky and Ripley can just walts up
Idk
Just seems to me the giants don't pay it much mine
Giants definitely pay it's mind
Ripley even says like they don't know wtf it is it's seems like a kids drawing
Why would Ripley say that
Giants don't give a f othe than Saul Ripley and what's her face
the mural is fine its the harley thats confusing me
jarul said the language was lost so they have multiple interpretations
but he keeps blabbering about "as it was said" or "based on legends"
which interpretation did these mfs use
did it happen they just got the right one straight up?
how convenient
where are the other interpretations?
You want to know every interpretation technjque
That's not happening buddy
I think that was just to say the two Nikas
which lore is fromt he harley which one is just told by stories
Also giants live for 300 years
They probably have more material to decode such language than any other
I think that was to set people thinking Nika is destruction or liberation but I could be wrong
so the multiple interpretation is just whatever wording for oda to make it sound mysterious but he just straight up tell us the right info?
huh
I dead ass think it was just for Nika
Or one who will bring peace to the world
They saying so many interpretation of the text
yeah and not just legend of nika
its not just nika has two versions
its all of it
So the three poems which were written
They have different interpretation of what they could mean
all of the text in that book
thats what im saying its somekind of info drop which is prob not wrong cuz meta answer
but oda added oh its multiple interpretations bs
Huh ?
they cant 100% read the text
Maybe the book contains the multiple interpretation of the poem
Who knows what the entire book contains
Surprisingly Historically accurate though
Makes sense there are so many versions of nika
Pretty sure not the language interpretation but the text interpretation of what they could mean
read the first line
That just means it was translated in the past
Yea because not all of it has been translated
100% translation and interpretation is that the same?
i feel like you get what im saying already but we still talking about it for some reason lol
Interpretation mean understanding the text or writing
Pretty sure
yeah nah thats like vibe understanding to knowing what the text actually means
either way its the same shit
wano forgot their real history
elbaf forgot their real history
iirc even neptune FMI dont remember much from the past
and here i was thinking elbaf would have some solid lore
It's funny cus I bet we have unexplored areas by small people while giants are too big to get into some places
my cope is robin is smart enough to fully understand the whole book not just the the poem
waiting if biblo saved the harley
Yeah just like NamI is a master map maker but we never seen a damn map !
Oda is a hack
oda will remember robin
he even gave her the bangs back
trust
more likely than usopp getting something
She had a fight in the last 7 years too
Usopp will have his final moment when he summons Ragnir and his 5600 soldiers
As the warrior god of elbaf Usopp yeah they retcon they history for him
Will we see the heaven realm at this point
The way domi reversi was solved
I expect oda to just skip heaven realm and do nothing with ut
right heaven realm

what if oda gets caught up again realize he made too much chapters
then just rush the lore revealpart
Domi reversi made it seems like oda is rushing it
Usopp literally had a speech about how much he was sad about dorry and broggy turning into those monster but when usopp was freed ,oda did nothing with it .
Last year message also oda said that he gonna make one piece high speed from now on
Or something
nah its fine he has more chapters to expand it
I have seeing complain on recent chapter domi reversi a lot
Heaven realm is the same place where Urogue has been camping. Ofc he woudnt skip it 
Bring back the days when robin didn't need help and low diffed her opponents
Well she did do that in wano but uh recency bias
I just realized something. With the way luffy is portrayed in thr live action... he'd likely lose against the 100 bounty hunters
They made him struggle too much against basic shit
something something they cant do too much gomu cgi
Well zoro struggled as well
Just not against fodder
Opla spoilers ||my man gets knocked out cold by the club he bounced back in episode 1||
To be fair. They were... special
yall liked the live action?
Only seen 1 episode so far.
that bad?
how was dragon
I haven't seen anyone talking about him
dragonbros haven't been the same since egghead
He was good in my opinion, i just didn't like the cloak they gave him.
ye i noticed how he still feels pain from blunt attacks
aint he immune
Emet to me was about out of power, but was motivated to move when he heard the drums because he desperately missed Joyboy
It was the same time that Fishmen were attending the reverie. Maybe some thing happened to the Poseidon at the time just like Shirahoshi, and Emet was responding to a blast of VoAT that she made. Just like Luffy sounding like Joyboy, hearing poseidons power would have felt like one of his old companions is nearby,
This one is a stretch but less so than another Nika user
Maybe everyone in the opla uses fists of love
where season 3
Next week
I've heard smoker actor is ass
He is kinda corny
I should be the one saying that
Stole it
remind me about the fishmen and reverie history
so theres the 200 years info
thats just the last time they attended was 200 years ago ye?
in all seriousness all the actors are kind of on and off in acting ability
But they are all passionate enough that i can forgive it
I only watched the first 2 eps tho so
yeah quality of acting varies
Hmm are they actually passionate tho
Nami is probably the most consistently good one
my take on the passion project is just doing certain key moments 1 to 1 as the manga
Luffy's actor (probably the worst one at acting) learned Japanese by living in Japan for 2 months
https://vxtwitter.com/sandman_AP/status/2032044100657299541 yeah... i'll stick to tcb from now on...
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could have used that time doing more acting lessons
lol
It was the first time they were admitted. When we learn about the attack on Mary geoise this is also mentioned as if we are supposed to relate the events
well yeah same timeline is interesting
@sly belfry where have you been???
how many 200 years ago do we have
The other things we know is that ship that fell from the sky would have entered the GL around that time, and that’s when the fighting fish started making it hard to go between Dressrosa and green bit
Sandman is being a sensationalist attention seeker again. I don't believe Stephen, the english translator, is going anywhere lol. This is about the other language translators that are going to be assisted, like the Vietnamese OP translator
Does Luffy scale the mountain in LA?
the first post was they were "using" them... now they are partners... so it will eventually lead there... i'll stick to TCB for now
He teleports to the top
Boooooo
I lied.
Stephen himself has denied it before I am pretty sure, maybe it does lead to it at some point but not anytime soon
Most of the famous robots are Japanese
Finally we can get some good art
Monch D Roof and price hunter Zuron

What happened to his hand
Oda messes up hands too. It’s hard to draw
Y’all remember that panel of sausage finger rocks
Nope
I looked for older AI art to get the cursed shit
It lowkey looks like some old style animation
freak left hand
Work
what do u do
Los piratas de rocas
I saw a few clips of Mackenyu fanboying over Oden and honestly, that’s right mate
If your discord account ever gets hacked I will make fun of you
Then again, you're free to make fun of me if it happens to me
it was already hacked
Oh true. I gave you full access
I mean Skanda's
Ah
@sly belfry dont think i forgot...
My headcanon is that Franky listens to Elvis Presley.
Tough one, i feel like he'd jam out to all of them.
Maybe jailhouse rock.
Oh yeah that's another good one.
Hm?
Saw you ij the vc
Really? I'm at work
is your wife maybe voice chatting discordians while ur at work?
Probably
On mobile you have to click a lot of extra shit, so it's impressive work to fat finger it
crazy how after all this time we finally got a western dragon DF
i mean buggy always existed

Someone at your house
Deciding to join the vc
For a second
😭
Take me thru there take me thru there
and it wasn’t Dragon lol like many of us thought
not me , i’m standing firm on Dragon will be our first and only airbender .. it’s gonna be a wind logia

I wonder who'll be Jormangundr.
I agree but not because he's named dragon 😭
I mean oda named smoker smoker and his powers are smoke
Plot twist: imu actually has a jormungandr user
They will fight loki in the final war


could have voted for carrot smh
