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but maybe cuz its Elbaf
she wasnt allowed in Elbaf
Well hold up nvm Shuron I'm sticking with my idea
Big Mom: if you marry Lola, I’ll get Elbaph since you’re the prince!
Loki: Y-yeah.
i forgot why I liked my idea, the BM thing reminds me
Loki loved Lola
He still a freak tho
do you think Lola was at sea and came across Loki
How old is Lola now?
Probably
25
I think Loki loved Lola enough to reveal the truth about his exile, which by extension was something that BM learnt about as well
She couldve made him some food too
i think loki came across lola first then big mom caught on
That’s not what I meant but Loki p maybe went to TB
No Lola was in WCI at the time
Who came up with the theory that the whole Loki/Lola thing was actually Rodo in disguise? That was funny as hell.
He probably did yea, there must have been rumors about Rocks Pirates in Thriller Bark, maybe Loki went after that
it had to have been before
Was so much more interested in Lola and Loki and Loki and Shanks but unfortunately not what the flashback was for
the timeline we have for when loki and lola met is like 6-12 years ago
Yeah, do we have a timeline on when Lola got stuck in TB?
i want to say 5 years ago but i have no clue
we know pudding was like 6 when lola left wci
We don't
yeah 5 years
Im just saying if Loki was an accepted prince of Elbaf it was easier to reason how Elbaf and Big Mom would set up a wedding and then Loki meets Lola and falls in love with her. This is what we assumed to be the case but now we know Loki was exiled so why would he even go to Whole Cake Island to get married in the first place, except if he met or learned about Lola beforehand
Ah, okay
On the Pudding thing, we can see that she's a child there
But she looks no younger than Momo, so she could be 8 or 6 or 5 or who knows
It was me
But the Loki thing could still work
You tried so hard to make sure you didn’t do it huh
its such a difficult range to avoid
I was really really avoiding a 7
your mind just goes to it

whenever i see animations like this i cant help but think of the stupid sommers one
Because Jesus said I was making a 6-7 joke when I genuinely meant it for once......
lmao
why is he wiggling with his shoulders with a timer above him
hes jamming out
Possible that BM heard about Loki being at sea & sent someone to invite Loki to WCI, where he then met Lola etc etc
Like she should know that the Prince of Elbaf is named Loki at least
You guys think Sommers is down
I think it's a dead meme among kids nowadays
like hawk tuah
Sources tell me Sommers is stable
Please god
that could work
Eh not fully
ironically he is because luffy is a bum
sommers will never die
???
Blame Oda’s no kill rule
can't use his CoC properly
Tera calling Luffy a bum? I've seen it all
He's using it properly, its just not enough
The end times are upon us
well Gaban did it and Sommers still was fine


Geeked up at five guys
I think they’re just not one shot-able
gaban is old and slow
Need to be knocked around a couple times
The people have just not been getting what I've been saying, ACoC is like a bandaid to the problem, its not a solution
What is the solution then
the power of love AND acoc
ACoC²
The Roger Pirates beat up the HKs countless times, left them chopped up with ACoC I imagine. I doubt there's countless dead HKs right now lmao
i know it wont happen but im all in on the power of love being domi reversi's weakness
Acoc can slow down regeneration but they can still regen
If Roger's crew cant do it, no one can
i cannot be proven wrong as of yet
But harald…
Gabans words make it sound like they beat them a bit & eventually they ran away & repeat
gigantic loki upscale, only dude to kill an immortal
Rate harald as a character out of 10
8
socrates lives on
I believe in Exorcism

No I meant with ACoC
he really got banned 
Loki fandom will never recover
Loki didn't do it with ACoC.
he's YOUR pfp dawg
what does that say about you
didnt loki quite explicitly do it with acoc
I think He did a secret cool thing with his legendary DF
Buh? Guh?? Whuh???
and thats why he realized the weakness when gaban talked about acoc
no the straw hat is my pfp
That would be a contradiction of Loki's own words, after Gaban mentions Conq to defeat them, Loki says "thanks you made me realise my own power"
unless he realized a seperate weakness unrelated to the acoc gaban was talking about
Wait so hold on
I like him a lot, a 9 from me
Yeah I don't think it was about ACoC, I have explained it before. Gaban discussing the immortality of the HKs reminded him to mention that he's the only one who has actually killed a HK.
- Charloss gets beaten up multiple times
- Sommers gets beaten up multiple times
Its a theme with CDs because they have regen but are still idiots. They always return to get beat up again its funny
Harald was able to die when imu didnt have control over him right? That was when Loki struck?
I think when Harald regained his consciousness, he also lost his immortality temporarily
Yes exactly
what's the solution, chop up an immortal into little pieces and toss them into the ocean?
And is gunko struggling with her consciousness, sort of going back and forth?
Yea
Brook’s music will help her break free
Like I said, exorcism
Disney piece incoming
So is the same for Sommers and the other one?
Musical soon
They seem to be pretty lucid
I'm pretty sure Sommers doesn't need to be brainwashed
Sommers redemption arc starts now
Unless, insane twist, he's the nicest coolest dude ever for some ridiculous reason
Basically, Harald (and possibly gunko) become vulnerable when they regain consciousness but Sommers is still immortal despite being fully conscious
With the context of the conversation though i find it hard to not be about Conq & i dont think Loki has forgotten like anything from that night, he knows Harald was presumably immortal etc
If it was just some random HK he killed, i can understand remembering that he was the only one to do it but the fact it was Harald.... ehh idk
Presumably at least
His evil is so highlighted that this wouldnt surprise me
Yeah unless he’s like a Homing type of person all along
Well the return of the original consciousness is more like an indicator of Imu's spell breaking for a bit
Yes but I mean how would you break the spell if your original conscious is alr on display
How far does this go are the Gorosei not evil either? Shamrock?
Just losing consciousness isn't necessarily the same I feel
I doubt any blood CD that has become a HK really needs brainwashing
It just wouldnt be as obvious
Shamrock yes, everyone else no.
No one is guilty, everyone is absolved

Gunko is still guilty tho
Everyone gets away with it because theyre victims of brainwashing
Harald having a moment of clarity isnt what caused Imu’s power to be interrupted, it’s a symptom that it was. For someone like Sommers, you can only tell because he stops regenerating, or is able to be perma killed
Gunko wanted to do it. She was less evil once she was brainwashed
But lets look at the facts. Roger Pirates more than likely constantly beat up the HKs with ACoC and it did nothing to them. Gaban chopped up Sommers with ACoC here and he still regenerated. The same thing certainly will happen after Luffy's attack. Loki must have done something different from all of them, and I think its related to his fruit because that was clearly said to be the thing that could stop him by Harald
Maybe Harald had to try to die
Yeah this is a good way to put it
Its an indicator, something that we likely won't be able to have with Sommers because I really doubt that he's secretly good or something lol
Its not that it did nothing to them, Gabans words make it sound like they just pushed them to the brink & then they ran away due to fear of death
Gabans ACoC was clearly effecting Sommers too, it slowed down the regen thats why Sommers is reacting that his hand hasn't just instantly come back
He's fine
I’m less concerned with which caused what, but just that are all HKs true selves masked by Imu’s control?
Loki stomped on him after this
but yeah he will come back
btw the easy way to know if a holy knight is truly dead is if imu actually took damage from them dying
like harald
Well stomp is even less a threat
True true
That’s probably gonna be a key in defeating Imu later on
Yeah, that's what I mean, it slowed down regeneration, it didn't do anything to kill them. ACoC isn't the ultimate solution when it can't actually permanently defeat a HK
Usopp and chopper vs Killingham on Lodestar
Killingham might not make it out of elbaf
I’m curious about this too. Harald wasnt being controlled like a puppet, but he wasnt himself either. Something was altering his personality
They might also all be fine, Gunko aside
Like... i'm sorry i have no reason to doubt that Conq is a counter to them
Sommers is at the greatest risk
Its not enough
I think <50% sommers makes it out
Depends on if Imu was paying attention
Sommers is dying
What is then Arsal because you're saying Loki's fruit is the answer so what now we've limited it to only Loki can kill the HKs?
He just kinda got enough spotlight that it would be fine if he were done here, it wouldn't be a waste of his character
Exorcism
Op characters barely die in the first place so im not even looking to see if they get killed
Just can you put them out of commission long enough
I can see him being a kanjuro kind of character where he is killed and brought back for humiliation purposes
I think you have to somehow remove the contract itself from the regen user, to make them human, that'll be the key,
Elaborate
I think Nidhogg is able to do this
Talk no jutsu
Well sure, I was thinking Brook would be able to do it to Gunko as well
In a similar way
Just sing her out of it, instead of talking
Imu stole Doffys whole flow
Sing no jutsu…
Only in universe but not irl...
Okay i agree with the Brook & Gunko part at least
moria fan ur just jealous
Oda didnt think of Imu in 2002...
Calls himself a Heavenly Demon, has an officer with cool eyes, one that does mindwipes and contracts, calls his final attack "16 Holy Bullets", cries about not doing something about Imu on a fateful day
He's so mad
Officer w cool eyes?
I dont get the second part
Monet?
Viola
Oh
You mean like Gunko or what
Which part
The contract and mindwipe ability user? Thats sugar
What Rokaya said
Ah
But yea, he has based his life around Imu
Oh and his last speech too was about Imu
O
Rocks stole that speech btw
Doffy is the Bellamy to Imu 😭
Don't insult Bellamy like that
Cause, if the homeland theory is true
Hype
Which it is
He's one of the very few that can and will be affected inside Marie Geoise
During the final war
I kinda want to see a HK go to his cell
And all the CDs
Imu will stall Luffy with Domi Doffy, while Dragon fights him on the roof or something. idk if there's a roof in Pangaea actually
Yeah besides them
Domi Reversi Charlos
Wait COOK
Oda loves his roofs
Doffy is like usopp perona. He already is his worst self he can't be flipped
Its not very flat for a rooftop fight
Or higher planes in general
Hey maybe the rooftop in final war is the Moob
Moon
Though... if Marijoa just gets blown away, is the rooftop then just the redline itself?
I thought I mentioned this idea before
Guess not
But it'll happen, trust
If I did Id have said Law fights Doffy
Duh you fool
God i actually wish it would happen like this
They fight in the Red Desert 
Maybe yea, but that doesn't really work the same
Domi an already evil person & they become good but... sadly its a "demonic contract" that only ever spells evil
Actually the Red Desert works perfect to get a Crocodile parallel in, Imu destroys Luffy there and then they rematch in the castle
Red Desert, Emerald City and the Moon have to be the 3 most anticipated One Piece arcs
hell arc too
Wrong manga
Moon arc... idk why but that reminds me of the theory that G5 is Sulong Luffy
I think we're in the slot moon arc had to go
if oda really wanted to go to the moon we woulda escaped egghead on a rocket
We're gonna climb the Adam tree all the way to the moon
Every time I see moon arc I think of the user Daigo who was the biggest moon arc advocate and dropped one piece when Yamato didn't join
so is this just base Franky now or what
I think just because the moon is important doesnt mean we need to go there. As of right now i dont really see any reason to go there
It has a mural
the existence of a mural doesnt mean we strictly need main characters to look at it. it could just be for the audience
Nothing
I couldn't imagine ever dropping OP, not after its been so long
That's his new powerup
yeah but is it like the gears where they have a strain on him with extended use
unless laugh tale is on the moon, i dont see it
or is he just this strong from now on permanently
Eh, I doubt.
He was a literal 13 year old so it makes some sense
Ah
It's just another type of fuel that VP basically invented.
hilarous page btw
Robin is reading that thing
robin hasnt even seen the elbaf mural yet
also whats like.. the impetus to go?
the crew doesnt know theres important murals on the moon
9/10 of them dont care
theres a rapidly ticking clock to beat the other emperors to the one piece
so
unless its laugh tale or the home of the man marked by flames
dont see it
if we taken oden at his word, anything history relevant that might be found on the moon can also be found on laugh tale
If Robin were to see the mural I think it may have been more interesting for us to see it the first time with her
so it doesnt even have unique information
Wait cook
could you imagine if everyone genuinely got an upgrade or buff except for Usopp
I'd die laughing
You'll be dealt with
Its building up for Usopp to have the most impactful moment bar anything Luffy does ofc
No but no, I can't imagine it, won't happen
How is it gilding up that way Kieran
Brook is currently 1v1ing Im
Franky got the biggest overall strength buff in a while
Robin is obviously super relevant for the murals
and Sanji is highly highly likely to get CoC
No need
he's already the best
Saved Scopper and therefore unlocked Sanji's buff
also its honestly kinda easy to buff Chopper
just give me a faux Sulong form
the super secret Mink Drugs
or simply just a new form based on the Minks
just depends on timing
Sulong Chopper would be rlly cool
Monster Sulong Chopper
could be the return of an Arm Point-esque thing
Speed and Power combo
sleeker and faster
its called monster point but I cant blame you for forgetting about it
obviously not the same thing
Carrot does not become 10 sizes larger when she goes Su Long
but she does get a heck of a lot faster and stronger
Remember, she blitzed Zoro in base 
All of the SHs have been getting things slowly throughout the arc, be it moments or upgrades etc
Robin had her moment with Saul & mini fight with Sommers
Brook had his moment with Gunko (likely not finished)
Franky just got a powerup & a duo takedown with Jimbei, Jimbei also saved the kids from burning to death
Nami was saving the library (she'll probably get more)
Chopper saved Gabans life
Sanji got payback on Killingham for insulting Jimbei (more to come ofc)
And what did jinbe get
Jinbei can't get a powerup right now
A vagabond drill and chastised by nami? Payoff for the vegapunk box he brought?
hype moments and aura
also he just joined the crew
give it till next arc at least lol
Can jinbe get a powerup
The only reason I think Oda hasn't abandoned him is because of what Luffy said about Usopp being able to beat the cat
He doesn't need one
Does he need one?
A Jimbei powerup implies he's weak
We clearly see how
i mean how would you even power up Jinbe
dude already is a 1000th degree fishman karate master
i doubt being a 1001st degree would change much
Coc 
Lilith produces it by absorbing the flames from the library on fire and inducing the cola with it
We see her do it before giving franky the cola
Coc is more of a narrative device than a buff
Yuh
Unlocking coc is insane aura basically
i mean yeah i guess
I dont think weve seen the full extent of his arsenal anyway
but jinbe is already auraful
Some secret techniques I guess
wonder if there's someone who outranks Jinbe in Fishman Karate
And also more control over haki (advanced armament and observation)
Sunbell
If Jinbe got any buff it would most likely be using the water bending aspect of his abilities in a new way
The secret fishman elder
The demon stuff is also in reference to how much angrier he was in his youth which is why he doesnt pull it out much
Jinbe will found a new school of martial arts
Maybe retaining a large water bubble to entrap devil fruit users
but how does he do that without easy water
not all of his fights will be by the shoreline
What is that fishman's name who was in Rocks crew
Barbell
Barbell yeah
What if he learns to use more water from the atmosphere
Barbell is a Moria zombie
Dumbbell
Is he related to the Roger crew one
Sunbell tho? He's him
That's Sunbell
Probably
and i dont like that
Rn he’s only able to use water in the atmosphere for internal damage
Basically shockwaves
It’s more avatar
Youss always breaking rules
He'll probably whip out advanced armament at some poiny
That’s kinda redundant don’t you think
i disagree sorri but whatevs
Seems like advanced armament is stromger
And he could potentially apply both techniques to one attack
it already has the same effect as fishman karate
Adv armament on the lvl of Koby and Garp is stronger
pierces defenses and works on devil fruit users
Yes but its clearly stronger
But adv armament with how most ppl use it is basically the same
I wouldn’t say clearly we’ve only seen like 2 use cases of exceptional mastery
I think its kinda clear
If it’s anything like luffy’s then it would be very redundant
Because luffy’s is pretty ass
Compared to what we know is possible I mean
Adv armament doesn’t rely on the target being living
But on living targets I’d imagine fishman karate would be superior
Utilizing the water in living beings is insanely broken
Yea ive yet to see fishman karate do the kind of damage advamved armament was
Adv armament is mostly used by weak ppl tho
Outside of Zoro in alabasta our first intro to it were the boa sisters
Actually no it was sentomaru
Then the boa sisters
Then all 3 admirals
Adv armament is no stronger than basic armament
The only difference is not needing to worry about durability to a extent at its highest lvl
Doing the same thing is whatever
Because you can COMBINE it
Double the effect lol
Ofc it’s always gonna be good to have more options
I just meant as a meaningful buff for Jinbe
Tbh I think we just haven't even seen his full strength or abilities yet, so that's gonna be an easy way to technically power him up.
Also true I guess but like
What else could he possibly have
We've seen two secret techniques already
We’ll get a flashback to the technique he discovered hour 16 into his fight with ace
How much more is he gonna keep pulling out
I imagine there's a lot
Robin pulled a demon form out of nowhere
He should be the greatest fishman karate user ever I feel
It's not out of nowhere
It's just a different utilization of her ability to grow limbs
It’s clearly meant to be different than just her giant form
Isn't he already that
Like I doubt it’s just aesthetic
Likely actually, there's just a lot of ways to go about it, Oda just has to come up with it.
True true
Ye
She reveals it like right before demonio
Ironically
I do believe the shading is aesthetic
Shading def is but iirc her coloration is red
Well the anime makes assumptions
Odas fault for not showing it in a volume cover
We get blue fire Sanji but not Demonio Robin
They cannot exactly be considered canon, the actual manga only shows her being heavily shaded
True true
But back to Jinbe, I have nothing to back this up really but
I do think he's probably still a lot stronger than we think
And the colored manga is based off the anime
I'm not doubting this but I feel like it's too late for Jinbe to get his Mr. 1 moment
Do we know this?
Where he overcomes an opponent clearly stronger than him
But who knows, this arc isn't over yet
Franky got his first buff 700 chapters into timeskip tbf
Yes, most notably they colored Giolla based on the anime's color scheme, then Oda revealed her color scheme and they went back to edit it all
Ah I wasn’t aware
I wouldn’t think this arc specifically but this option is always on the table in a shonen
Oh and not anime related but there was the Kujaku and Grus thing recently too
Semi recently
The colored manga got their color scheme entirely wrong
And of course the Gaban incident
Right lol
They just assumed he was blonde and that led to the Shiki theories
We can’t rule out the possibility Gyaban was experimenting with hair dye on his travels
I'm pretty sure they colored him blonde because they thought he was Shiki honestly
Possible
yellow diamonds look like shiki
Basing your entire theory on a coloring that some poor random slaved away at is something
It happens more than you like to think
Again, assumptions are the thing here just like in the anime. There's not exactly a significant level of communication between them and Oda, so they have to make assumptions
They saw a spiky haired man in a kasa about less than 2 years after Strong World
They just thought well, gotta be Shiki!
Imagine being in a position to boost your headcanon to the masses
Also the back view doesn’t even match Shiki
Shiki’s hair reaches to his feet, not shoulder
It'd be kind of cool if he became blonde all of the sudden lol
Or the hair was part of the hat
crazy pause
Shiki backshots
shiki can float so he can probably do all types of crazy positionings
he can rotate
yes but if he gets a lil excited those legs gonna cut ya
he gon have to take those off
Shikigate
Hate? What is there to hate about the chapter? I didn’t even know people hated it
hate? what does that word even mean
Shiki vs Buffalo, who can rotate better
yeah they’re calling it one of worst chapters in OP history 
Whaaaaaat
What is this bullshittery
Who's hating on this chapter wtf
People are just mad domi reversi sucks
it’s specifically the Domi reversi counter
And it makes questions for Rocks and his family that was revsi'ed
Should've been a 2 white players to counter revseri
Now it's just unga bunga
Zoro's specialty
Ah. Yeah I don’t really care what the counter is. I’m just here to read the arc
Naw, I'm playing board games with family and gf
awh
So no vc
am i not as important
Let me just abandon my loved ones right quick
yassopp be like
holy overreaction
I'll tell em I need to grab some milk
one day soon we will arrange the greatest top 50 list known to man
and will zoro be on it? NO
this chapter isnt nearly as bad as people make it out to be
Wednesday night
i enjoyed reading it alot
wednesday might possibly be the worst time you could have chosen
im at uni for twelve hours on wednesday
We will both be in physical pain by the end
LOL

Alright, next week then
I feel like we still need more of an understanding in the story on how the reverse thing works.
well hang on thats your wednesday though
So far we have hints but it's still ambiguous
I'll be coming off a 7hr drive that day
so what it'd be my thursday morning, in which case im working but my thursday afternoon im so free which i imagine would be maybe your thursday morning maybe?
Leaving my parents in the morning with gf and driving back to home
Not a surprise there
My Thursday morning is slightly possible
ive no clue really
Yeah see, this I would've liked more, but I still loved the chapter
as far as im concerned my time zone is correct and the rest of you are making it all up
mental illness
It's nice that people have hope when Nika isn't around just as long as they're willing to fight
I too liked the chapter
I feel the same
I think I get it
Macks, I feel the stress for future us
Also macks
Only living and current day versions characters? Or all including dead and prime?
Please not that latter
we'll do current
i do see where brago is coming from to an extend with the whole meaningless attack on kilingham
sanji doesn't have coc (at least not yet) so nothing thats done to him really matters
Good
i STAY hating on the fact that regen is only countered by acoc
dead and prime lets us pad the list out which means its a fake mental illness top 50 and not a real top 50
That doesnt bother me
Not in the moment
If this was 5 chapters of him attacking Killingham with no progression then yeah
But the first hit? The fight gotta start somewhere
Makes sense
You can incapacitate them
ok but the fight gonna go nowhere unless sanji unlocks not only coc but also acoc right now
and even then it would make much more sense to put sanji against sommers
I wonder if Usopp will snipe someone soon
elbaf is a big as shit island
Man there really is no reason Advanced Armament shouldnt also work lol
logistically SOMEONE has to be far away enough
yeah I don’t really care either
If you drop a mountain on a HK, they are done until someone takes the mountain off them
They can't regen outta that
it’s a fine chapter
things are moving along
Putting a HK in a trap would be cool
considering that Oda literally draw a panel of the reversi board game being played when Imu cursed the giants, this just might be the most braindead i've seen the fandom ever

i don't think i've disliked one piece fans more than in the past few days
i mean right here he says "next time we use CONQUERORS HAKI we should channel all our mass into it"
specifically conquerors, not just haki
mfers were rushing to post trivia about reversi and othello when imu first said the name
I prefer this than Luffy being the only person that can counter Domi reversi
Oh yeah I know. Im saying Oda should have made it different
now legit nobody gives a fuck about the reference and what that implies for the next few chapters
this is a fandom that wants to complain dawg
It being a game reference is fine
man what does "channel all our mass into it" even mean?
it's just another way of saying "moar haki lol"
Hate how easily overreaction content sells
But I just think its too easy to reverse man Im sorry
Nice one discord
yeah but that really shouldn’t stop Sanji from attacking, that would be unrealistic
weekly release is truly a mistake
exactly
It is moar Haki but essentially they mean use it all in one attack to break through his guard, instead of trying to whittle him down
there's just not even the attempt at foresight going on here
I interpreted it as you can allocate haki to offense and defense and they had to put it all into Offense and risk being left without haki like Luffy on Dressrosa
I'll let Oda cook
But I also think its fair to give my opinion on whats at hand
Its literally 95% of what I have
Wonder if it gets mentally exhausting logging onto the internet all day to complain and make a big deal out of everything
inform that opinion with your brain power my man
not only is it named after reversi
but oda literally drew the board game
ig
how is the board game played? pieces flip back and forth
what's the conflict that can create? they fatigue themselves killing the cursed giants before imu fatigues himself cursing them
I'd have liked if anyone touched by Nika could do it
If the nika idea was the cure that’d be complained about too.
Like the drums of liberation echo through people
I’m so glad I have limited my exposure to this fandom
I had no idea people didn’t like this
Good signs for me
And so Nika's followers not only become immune to Domi Reversi, but their haki can help release it
I dont think this is gonna happen
It absolutely would
I wouldn't even care about it if people weren't so eager to take their half-baked complaints and just be downers about it
killing people to disable the power up is still a large ask btw
they not only get an all around strength amp but also the regen
the only domi reversi'd people we see get killed are killed by roger and garp, and other domi reversi'd people
^ That's why this is the first we're seeing of it
so why did Oda prompt us to think of the game when Imu cast it?
Yeah those are also very key details people just are choosing not to consider
Like truly, it wouldn't be so bad if these were actually well thought out
like Luffy passing off his Nika powers? That’s kinda too corny for me
Imu is a 10/10.
I also dont like that idea either. Maybe even less than a perma reversal I think
Immensely so
Not quite passing off, but almost like the opposite of the Domi Reversi
Now we're talking
Where people are following for the fun/love of it and not violating nature or trying to conquer things
If Imu's power is law, Luffy's power is party
The thing he set up with Garp and Roger was cool. Maybe something like that.
Also I'm guessing once you're hit with it you can't be Domi Reversi'd again without a pact
I like One Piece
That would have been pog
haki knots but people
Yeah thats what Im thinking of
That way its not just killing the opponent but theyre stronger.
There's a technique application you need
I wouldn’t have been a fan of that tbh
I liked how the giants and Zoro pretended to be sad about the prospect of killing their friends to reverse them
THERE, a way I like it
Something that advances the power system, which I really think is needed
theoretical hakiology
That was the best part of the chap imo
Other than Sanji
And Frrrrrranky
franky
As it is now to me this feels like the safe route
Duh
yall think paulie will make it into the top 10 of the poll this time
I wonder if Franky's cola thing will have variations depending on what kind of energy he charges it with
Is franky low admiral high yc1.5 level now? Perhaps mid warlord?
guh
In my dreams maybe
@grand flower Thoughts?
Idk its hard to scale nuclear energy
you’re asking a lot for OP fans
White pieces to counter black pieces would have been hyp
oh i've decided to just move on from this topic completely
Frfr
Oh
i might genuinely leave this chat if i keep engaging with it
Board game would've been peak
valid crashout
this domi reversi topic has been showing a lot of what i dislike the most about this fandom these days
im gonna focus on franky
it sounds a little like to similar to an other series to me ngl
so like genuine question is imu's plan to just domi reversi loki? because if so we might be fried
though on the other hand idk how imu's getting pass loki without DR
Oden Week has returned
I dont think its fried if Loki gets DR'd
Imu doesn't seem worried tbh
No lol
Probably has crazier powerups
thats why i said might
i fuck with loki being cursed
I hope there’s more besides domi Loki
Tbh Mural Imu might be the same size or even slightly bigger than Loki
me too, a fight between Luffy and Loki would be cool
Imu doesn't seemed too impressed
i doubt imu can tap into the power while using gunko as a proxy
Oh no hell nah
And i doubt they'll come personally
while imu themself is definetely strong
I would like Luffy to learn this soon
they don;t got their best fighters on elbaf is what im saying
Doesn't seem so
I think he will since Gaban called it out
Who will what
"Watch how you use Conquerors Haki"
kilingham's dream fruit army is great for large scale conquest but against a single opponent like loki? no
sommers has just proved himself to be fraudulent
and gunkimu im sure is strong idk how strong
Oh
Oh no this was a break week
Shouldn't be hella easy
why do people think Sanji hates Jinbe
What an awkward moment to go on break for
that one scene in fmi and that is it
He told him to kill himself on FMI but that was because of the Arlong situation
Cause he told Jinbe to kill himself in FMI
That and the #4 thing
bad chapter to go to break
Thats really it
And tbf there is a gag of Sanji being one sided antagonistic towards Jinbe
that was like 500 chapters ago
Jinbe is handsome confirmed
Yea but thats the reason. That and the #4 ting with the bounty amounts
I think that's literally it
it was cool him defending Jinbe this chapter
As far as any "rivalry" goes
woah live action tomorrow
Almost 3 for 3
keep forgetting
What fruit users have been domi’d?
Who wants to watch long ass TV all day...I dont get it
Theyre hour long episodes right?
You must be employed
it’s the Netflix staple
Yeah I don’t think Imu can reverse fruit users based off Sabo
none I think
Imu couldn't get to Sabo because Cobra was secretly Top 1
Partially but I still have a lot of free time
That goes into video games tho
Well there ya go
rocks' grandma
Yea i think LA is gonna be... more
I dont watch super long episodes. At least I dont binge that
Its not a big deal tho.
live action better have a subplot thats completely original
Like what
like the coby stuff from last season
also richy why am i just now noticing your pfp is fem franky
I think the Garp and Koby stuff was the worse part of the series
May be a skill issue
Most definitely
it was such a good idea to seperate alabasta into its own seperate season
just the thought of it getting forced into like 2-3 episodes of the LA would've been a horrid idea
This one in the chapter would have been heat but it didnt seem like anything special happened
Thats a cool idea tho
I like that Franky changes depending on the drink. If he had special types of cola that would be cool
that was a great creative decision, it’s impossible to cram the whole Alabasta saga in 8 episodes
I saw an interesting article headline but ignored it cause it was Comicbook
I should go back to it
imagine Franky with the mother flame 
genuinely a cyborg charged by the mother flame is an absolute top tier
Ok
On this episode of The Movie Podcast, Daniel and Shahbaz are joined by Iñaki Godoy, Emily Rudd, Mackenyu, Jacob Romero Gibson, and Taz Skylar to discuss Season 2 of ONE PIECE: INTO THE GRAND LINE. In Season 2 of this live-action adaptation of Eiichiro Oda’s beloved manga series, Luffy , Zoro, Nami, Usopp, and Sanji travel to the Grand Line, a...
At 7:40 Mackenyu says Oda has a vision for where the LA should go up to
Original ending bros?
I think it’s Enies Lobby
Though he makes sure to specify "go up to" and not "end". So maybe its moreso Oda wants a scene to be adapted, not that he has an ending in mind
i vehemently dissagree. I've seen one piece done again 1 to 1 a thousand times in video games, and the show has been its weakest when it tries to half assedly stick to the source material (baratie and arlong park) and best when it goes for something much different (orange town and syrup village)
id rather they do something different than give us a bad version of what we've already have
i think LA garp is a completely different character than manga garp but thats fine
I think Matt Owens said there are no plans for that
However he’s not the showrunner anymore sooooo
Pirate Warriors slop ending in season 4
netflix uses reddit? 
It’s an AMA
I'm calling it right now, the plan is to end this version of the one piece live action at the end of pre timeskip. Then they'll create a whole new "sequel" show that isn't just another season, called like "One Piece: New World" or something so they can cast younger actors to make sure they can adapt the whole story without using 50 year old Emily Rudd and Mackenyu to play as 20 year olds.
with the money generator that is the op franchise, i see that as inevitable tbh
that’s fair, they’re take on Syrup Village was pretty good
The live action ends where the 4kids anime ends
oh absolutely, I don’t think none of the characters are 1 to 1
With everyone dying
i actually didn't like how they did syrup but that was popularlly acclaimed
Remember to vote for Otama
are you nervous for how they do drum island? Your favorite arc
Oli would be proud
the IP is just too big to fail I think, and when the original story ends there will be an even greater desire for more one piece content
Wit piece will exist
surely
Vote for the HERO of God Valley
yeah if they do it wrong im gonna be real upset
argh
🏴☠️
akainu's diplomatic side is so overlooked
chopper's va is def rough to listen to, but she was... an enjoyable part of another project she was in...
i think she's an pretty good actress at least so that bodes well
wow! that's horrifying!
mr 3's actor is really good so thats nice
wish they got some actors like that for the main cast 😭
actually its prob on the directors not them
Blame oda
Goda can do no wrong 
What about that one time?
Just came from a ridiculously long pirate warriors 4 session
Getting my friend into One Piece this way is kind of funny because theres just some things left out but on the other hand pretty funny stuff out of context
so agree w this
hour long episodes killed TV shows
The longest ive ever watched nowadays is the Ted TV show
And my ADHD tolerates it because its funny
dont fuck with watching 90 movies in 4 seasons of television
I can't really sit through television anymore or shows generally
Maybe im either old or just very stupid
I prefer just reading generally.
Peak in 3 hours 🔥
Yeah lol
I think I'm watching it all in one sitting
Space it out, do not let peak end fast for yourself
Naaa I'm watching it all in one day lmao just like I didd season one
I don’t care too much for the live action but I’m glad it’s successful
They look like they’re having fun
meow :3
It super early morning over here...
Lmao I don't buy any of it all the footage if then together I think is just a thing 🤣
But I do like the live action
heh almost afternoon here
I woke up late
Why didn’t Newgate WIFE THAT ASS UP
Is he stupid?
ur a cat
Seeing how she and weevil turned out seems like a good call
That's not gonna fix his brain
Edward is gay
He wanted Roger
That’s no matter. You ever see the movie Forrest Gump
He was sfupid yea but he was HERO
I heard right
I also didn't like it but it might get better with the hindsight of future chapters
How long will elbaf be? How many more chapters
It’ll probably end within 20 chapters
Utas ribbon
no clue
most people are predicting 20-30 chapters
elbaf will be 87 chapters long
Elbaf actually ended chapters ago, imu got the jump on them while they were engrossed in the god valley story and this is all a dream from a prison cell
grown ass grandma btw
67 lives on
yes i am 67yo
Isn't gloriosa obsessed with roger? Or was that someone else
She was
But let people dream man
You are out for blood at 3 in the morning
I stayed up to check out the beginning of the live action
God valley got name dropped
And some other stuff got hinted early but i guess i shouldn't say when it's been out 15 mins
she got really short and wrinkly because she never ended up with roger i guess
are the episodes actually out
As of 15 mins ago
oh i might have had a moment of weakness and fallen prey to some trolling oh no
Nah for reals it's 3/10 on the west coast it's time
oh wait google ai agrees
no way
ok fine ill watch season 2 without rewatching season 1
Barto looks so silly among the normal townspeople. But I like it
You probably need a submarine to have a chance. And even then it's a long shot
mrbeast hasn't moved yet?
Oops wrong Chanel
That was the quickest grift I've ever seen
This is the best thing I ever seen in my life
single vote this time?
even some japanese fans are fed up of usopp 😭 :https://fixvx.com/i/status/2030876859098153394
Damn
What makes them any different
These are the mighty fans you speak so highly of @ashen perch
@RunnerSinnosuke ワノ国の体たらくでクッソ叩かれてたとき、「ウソップの新価はエルバフで発揮されるに決まってるやろ…」と後方腕組みしてたぼくのたつせがない
"When Usopp was gettin' absolutely fuckin' roasted for how useless he was in Wano Country, I was back there with my arms crossed like, "His true worth is obviously gonna shine in Elbaf, duh..." and now look at me, no regrets whatsoever."
Yeah I have seen that already. Saying "Japanese fans" and its one person who is being told to be patient in the majority of the responses lol
All this sounds so dumb to me
he got 2100 likes, clearly there are people who agree

Ofc they do, posts with criticism of One Piece do exceptionally well on JPTwt
Because most of the non One Piece fans are really really really annoying about their hate for the series
Not so different from anywhere else really
Japanese fans would imply that its a Japanese One Piece fan, not a Japanese person in general cmon
I mean I thought it was clear I was being lighthearted and just teasing
I would never name you ArsalWeeb in my mind
Well I know I was responding to Tera there smh
Who actually definitely very seriously means this
yes totally
I'm in episode 3
Buddy I have seen your obsession with Usopp
Did they drop all the eps altogether
Yea
if you've seen everything I've said about usopp then you'll also know that I think he'll get something significant before the arc ends 😭
Usopp not getting anything yet is just emblematic of “saving the best for last”
the last cope/hope
The youth simply lack patience
Yea I saw that you said that, doesn't necessarily change what I said
Hopium core
Its funny that people are not getting that obvious conclusion after pointing out that everyone has done something already
Like they have managed to notice what Oda's doing here but not the actual answer as to what he's going for
he's funny to slander but I'm not stupid enough to think there's absolutely zero hope for him
although if he really doesn't get anything substantial this arc, then idk if there's anything to expect from him afterwards besides disappointment
there's the reunion to look forward to
also eos everyone is getting their major character moments
sooooo I'm not sure about the disappointment part
Franky upgrade was genuinely so funny
Spicy cola
Not even in the list of the top 50 things i expected
Have you been voting for yamato?
Yes and forever
Skill issue, I expected it
What
Well not the exact thing, but I've been saying that he'll get a very significant powerup
And this is just the start
Oh this
Yeah, i feel like it will tie back to what louis arnot said
Franky boost was expected yes
Elbaf is the perfect location for any Franky powerups, because of all the Adam Wood that he can freely use, and all the VP knowledge that he can collaborate with here
Ok, you guys don't have to make me feel bad. I've only been looking out for Usopp 😔
Tbf this wasn't about Adam wood. I meant tech upgrade but I guess i shouldve seen it coming since the moment we saw that ancient lab
Cute
Remember, Franky's bounty poster is currently the Sunny itself. I have believed that they will combine with each other since that was shown
I really hope we get to see the inside of that lab. Maybe franky will discover some blueprints
Combine like, Mecha Style
We definitely will, or atleast we'll hear from Lilith all about it
gundam type shit
Oda loves mecha 
Yupp
Why no spoiler?
Break week


Who likes spoilers anyway 
Losers 
Ppl with no haki
Nobody, but spoiler mean new chapter coming
a5dsf561
I'm too high levelled, so no
bleh
Can mushy defeat my level 9 Salamence
hi are you a bot
out of curiosity, I looked up if it's possible to find a level 9 salamence in any game and it actually is possible in gen 7
route 3 of alola
I'm shocked that it exists lol
SOS chains
Unreal
yeah
It’s a 1% of a 1% kinda deal
You get a 1% bagon encounter and that bagon has a 1% to cry for mom
Far more likely than that
The odds aren’t quite so simple as that when you factor in that SOS chaining can be done indefinitely if you’re smarty about it
You only need the bagon encounter once
Then you just waste turns until it calls Salamence
SOS chaining is pretty easy, just a bit tedious. Good/fun shiny hunting method though
I've never done SOS chaining so I don't know the details, cool though
There is the additional factor of actually catching the Salamence though
I played moon and ultra sun once each and didn't revisit them
If you want this by the time you leave the first island, you have base regular pokeballs

