also-manga

[high wolf]

Smoker is a disappointment

[distant vine]

Give Oda some time man.

[unique lagoon]

i can imagine there has been a surge of OP watcher/readers cuz of recent stuff

so they all watching it just then

[distant vine]

Its not that people arent caught up

They just love ASL

[safe cove]

https://x.com/i/status/2030993808066765026

Franck Sabatier (@franck_sabatier)

No way he'll look like that but here we go with my own version of Joyboy

X · Mar 9, 2026, 1:07 PM

[unique lagoon]

oda will see this and be like
damn ive peaked making characters back then (ace and law)

[distant vine]

People in this fandom tend to maximize Buggy memes

And its funny cause if Oda actually did it I feel like most people would hate it

Like Buggy being Rocks son

[digital spear]

SO GLUE

[unique lagoon]

joyboy was the ancient kingdom jester turned hero turned war leader

[graceful belfry]

One Piece, man, whadda manga

[graceful belfry]

As a character? I don’t see it. I think he’s great. Just lacks a lot of the screen presence he had in the pre-time skip

[iron oriole]

Real Buggy fans know he's a Manmayer

[grand flower]

Oda is just getting smoker ready for his royal rumble return from injury

[stray prism]

Voting time

[rose rune]

Man. This guy actually deserves a vote

[strong wadi]

The people aren’t ready for him to unveil the first logia awakening

[buoyant comet]

Shamrock drowning

[steel stirrup]

Fuck em

[dense haven]

yall vote rocks

[high wolf]

Yes

[final trench]

I guess man

[urban lodge]

Another golden Gunko let's go

[prisma yacht]

They know the real fan

[unkempt sable]

I respect him

[prisma yacht]

I love him

[fallen meteor]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2030989879648387239

sattou 3/3～高円寺展示 (@sattou0)

👖🍦≡

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FixupX · Mar 9, 2026, 12:51 PM

[prisma yacht]

Silly girl with such a big icecream

[graceful belfry]

That’d be both cool and funny so

I’m on board with that if it happens

[remote maple]

woah trans ice cream

[rose rune]

Biblically accurate smoker

[dense haven]

yall should watch the mind control latina from tiktok

[remote maple]

ive never used tiktok and im keeping it that way

[grand flower]

Theres something insidious about that app

[pseudo gulch]

The who

[prisma yacht]

I have heard they have nice edits

[frozen ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/trippy-psychedelic-hypnotic-hypnosis-spins-gif-5136507

[stray prism]

Heck yea

[grand flower]

I just need to get into a room with charithra Chandran

[restive lintel]

he might even hit top 5

been voting daily

@keen quiver make sure

[latent hamlet]

Idunno why but I imagined big news Morgan in top 5

And he describes the news himself

[restive lintel]

lol

nahhh

[keen quiver]

He made top 5 in other countries

From what I checked

[restive lintel]

yeah

he gonna win

top 10 confirmed

[spice cairn]

I did sleep yeah

I was having trouble

2nd gold in a row

[grand flower]

Do you know what it means

Also did you see the kid stuff

[spice cairn]

Ye

[dark nymph]

does gold affect vote value

[spice cairn]

Im all in

[spice cairn]

Its just cosmetic

[dark nymph]

[grand flower]

YES

[spice cairn]

Cute

I think we might get a supernova moment again

Against a big opponent

[ashen rose]

BRO, THEY GOT THE GIRL WHO STARES TA BARTOLOMEOS CROTCH IN DRESSROSA AS A CHARACTER IN THE POPULARITU POLL LOL

[fast pagoda]

How do you get gold

[ashen rose]

You mine for it

[spice cairn]

Its rng

You mine for it

[fast pagoda]

Genuinely how the hell did they manage to get like every single character out of a thousand lol

and get colored renders of them whoever did that might be the strongest person of all tome

[ashen rose]

They don't have whitebeards dog

[fast pagoda]

I know they were scouring the OP wiki for weeks lol

[rose rune]

Bogart cries in a corner

[fast pagoda]

Wait lol they dont have Bogard

He's not a real character anyways tho lol

[ashen rose]

Wait, they don't have board?

Bogard*

[rose rune]

Nope

[alpine trench]

Bogard isn’t officially named

So he isn’t in this poll

[rose rune]

I tried bogart, bogard and bog

[ashen rose]

They got yamatos side boobs but don't have Bogard holy shit

[alpine trench]

Yamato’s side bob was included in the SBS which Oda directly alluded to

[spice cairn]

Is it cold?

Not to get too NSFW

[spice cairn]

Excuse me

[fast pagoda]

I hope the sideboob makes the top 100

[spice cairn]

What the fuck

His sideboob is a creature?

[remote maple]

yeah

[spice cairn]

[remote maple]

oda drew yamato's sideboob in an sbs

[spice cairn]

Both of them?

[remote maple]

I think so?

idr

[spice cairn]

So thats like 3 characters?

[ashen rose]

"I'm sorry Bogard I don't think you qualify as a character"

"This is bullshit you let yamatos breast in it"

"I'm an important part of the plot dumbass"

[spice cairn]

What the fuck

[fast pagoda]

It's like an anthromophization

[remote maple]

is it 4 for each side?

[fast pagoda]

They're not actually alive

[spice cairn]

I mean yeah it was important

[ashen rose]

They got vegapants, vegapunks cousin

[spice cairn]

Is Bogard actually not in the polls

[fast pagoda]

No lol

[spice cairn]

Woah

Thats insane

Oda forgot

[fast pagoda]

Btw Imu and Nerona Imu are not seperate entries

[ashen rose]

Nothing will top yamatos side boob holy shit

[spice cairn]

Subtle lore storytelling within polls

[ashen rose]

Imagine being considered less of a character than someone's breast

[fast pagoda]

Vegapants is a good close second though

[fast pagoda]

If it means more Bogard slander I welcome it

[ashen rose]

Bro did nothing but aurafarm

[fast pagoda]

He is not a real character I cant believe he had fans lol

[ashen rose]

He's just an illusion, his own fans gaslight everyone into thinking he existed

[hot cairn]

https://youtu.be/2T_7HXnYyk4?si=zN6LA9tHJIy9BmP9 not even merphy liked the domi reversi thing

[barren token]

one piece

[hot cairn]

where did the name come from then?

[ashen rose]

Yeah I can see why

[prisma yacht]

It all depends on how oda handles the ability from here

[vernal ravine]

i'll give oda time to explain the thing better but as now its very poor

[latent hamlet]

Most OPtubers are pretty unhappy with domi reversi rn yea

[grand flower]

What a sentence

[high wolf]

I hope he does

[grand flower]

Lololol

[spice cairn]

Bro Oda drew it with arms and legs bro

[grand flower]

Dimwits

[spice cairn]

Its over

[somber flare]

so cringe

[grand flower]

Melon was smart

[somber flare]

Loki deserves that spot 100%

[grand flower]

Is it? We can already determine for ourselves Rocks wasn’t flipped

[somber flare]

Rocks is really just the new one piece dudebro poster boy

[ashen rose]

If rocks wins than Loki wins as well

It just means some places got nice taste

[latent hamlet]

He's the gigachad that showed up and then beat every1 and every1 was like nah he's him

And then the story realized "....wait this is a flashback"

[urban lodge]

We love hype moments and aura

[ashen rose]

Hey he did that for his family ok

Plus his stuff with Harald was good

[urban lodge]

Whitebeard but bad

[ashen rose]

They're different people

[vernal ravine]

the tension is already broken even if its explained better, but 2 types of domi reversis which was my first thought when i read this, is what i want to think that can fix a bit the writing of this power

i still think imu can do something and make the tension come again but that is my thoughts not the manga

[soft tangle]

FACTS

[ashen rose]

I'm starting to think that the only reason oda is not killing anyone this arc is because the actual brutality is gonna start in the final war, but this is just me coping to be honest

We cope for better days

[latent hamlet]

And then oda starts killing and every1 gets upset

"That guy didnt need to die"

"They should have killed this bitch instead"

[final trench]

The mf goat

[ashen rose]

Good

[latent hamlet]

"NO 1 cares about this guy they're free death fodder"

[final trench]

Soon

[dark nymph]

"That's really how their character arc concludes?"

[grand flower]

The power being based on Reversi is enough reason to assume imu is just gonna curse em again

[final trench]

When shanks dies niggas are dropping One Piece

(I wont be niggas)

[ashen rose]

One last hurrar before the one piece

[somber flare]

I like Rocks but he's nothing more than just cool strong guy from the old generation to me

[still mason]

People don't want to accept it when I say Mihawk will be offscreened before he fights Zoro, watch this space though

[dark nymph]

thats drop worthy ngl

[latent hamlet]

He spent most of his time farming aura and trying to get harald to be a world conqueror

[alpine trench]

What is the appeal of Merphy Napier in the OP space, she’s so boring

[grand flower]

Hell naw

[alpine trench]

Side material

[dense haven]

peak fiction

[somber flare]

that would be horrible but at the same time seeing the Mihawk fans react to that would be fucking hilarious

[grand flower]

She was a book reviewer

“Book reviewer doing manga” was her hook

[alpine trench]

I know about her and I’ve watched quite a few of her vids

[dense haven]

join us in the slander

[latent hamlet]

Lot of books reviewers joined one piece

[haughty saddle]

It was cool to have a book nerd’s outlook on the series in real time, but she’s become so ingratiated within the OP community now that her videos lack the outsider sort of angle that made her appealing in the first place IMO

[somber flare]

So she's the Roger of booktok one piece readers

[urban lodge]

She was the first big one, then it became a trend

[ruby cape]

Seeing so many of the didn’t like it posts

But it’s based

I agree on that too

[grand flower]

I agree shes become a normie(slur)

[dense haven]

the only people who like op are the ones who dont know anything about it

[haughty saddle]

Now she’s just making the same theories we are every week and it’s like well, welcome to the club shawty

[latent hamlet]

Im not much of a fan of "the fix is death"

Thats implying every1 was just having a skill issue

[final trench]

He not ready to kill dory and brogy yet

[latent hamlet]

Its the goku method

Hit em really hard and it works

[dense haven]

after this chapter do you still think oda will do that

[final trench]

Do what

Kill dory and brogy? Yea

[grand flower]

Yo this is is Brazy man

[final trench]

Just not rn

[final trench]

WELLLLL TECHNICALLY

That is the method

[grand flower]

The power is Reversi for a reason Yall

[alpine trench]

What do people even want the fix to be

Death is the final fucking resort

What more is left

[ashen rose]

It's the method for most things since the beginning of humanity tbh

[final trench]

In rocks case, roger and garp used their all their haki to knock him out of it, so even when he went back to his normal state the damage was too much he couldnt get regen’d

[ashen rose]

What's a villain that can't kill anyone?

[final trench]

Dory and brogy doing a simple swing is kinda crazy tho

[grand flower]

For several reasons this is gonna be another complaint that ages like milk

Weekly release was a mistake

We should just get the entire arc at once

[final trench]

Or is it the purpose of the swing 🤔 since they didnt wanna stain their names with being the killers of jarul

[alpine trench]

He didn’t turn them into his pawns for them to die, that’s the point of the game that Reversi is

[final trench]

Death before dishonor type thing

[hot cairn]

I dont care about domi reversi enough to be mad about that development

[latent hamlet]

They intended to end their lives soooo

[grand flower]

I mean much more simply

Rocks was cursed with a different version of Domi Reversi

[ashen rose]

It should but it isn't, and I doubt people would have the patience to do so

[final trench]

Imu did say you will be free common sense and logic(basically) so DR for now is a troll technique ngl

[grand flower]

They have no patience now anyway so you right

[final trench]

That too

[grand flower]

Rocks was also stabbed before he was turned

[upbeat yarrow]

the only two possible choices for a domi reversi cancel were
1- death
2- power of love/friendship

[grand flower]

Brogy’s mighty arm is still gone

[upbeat yarrow]

id gladly take death

[alpine trench]

Imu made them demons for them to do his service, not to die, so death being the release releases them from being demons and reversed

[grand flower]

So rocks probably just came back with holes in his torso

[somber flare]

you will recieve an undying body until you die

[hazy turret]

Yeah like

[grand flower]

Melontee brought up a good point

[hazy turret]

Does this mean Rocks is alive

[grand flower]

Which is that theyre afflicted by the same curse

[somber flare]

ROCKS IS THE MAN WITH THE BURN SCAR

[grand flower]

He’s fire scar

[alpine trench]

Rocks was overcome with Haki

And then willingly gave up and died

[dark nymph]

all the alternatives ppl brought up sucked so this is way better in comparison

[hazy turret]

Cook?!

[alpine trench]

It’s the point of his monologue before getting stabbed

[grand flower]

Roger and Garp did with them fire moves

Since when they got fire

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[hazy turret]

To be fair, random characters get fire attacks before I’m pretty sure

Either way though

[somber flare]

I genuinely think there is a decent chance that is actually the case

[hazy turret]

Rocks is still alive theories through the roof

[hot cairn]

LOL

that's so funny

[latent hamlet]

They say shit like oh the friction in the air they punch so hard they light themselves on fire

[upbeat yarrow]

at this point every old character fucking outlived roger

[hot cairn]

they're immortal, until they die...?

what is Oda cooking

[grand flower]

Oh yeah for sure

But Roger AND Garp busting out their ONLY fire moves so far, at the same time??

[hot cairn]

[alpine trench]

It also has to do with will

[latent hamlet]

They have an undying body

Unless they suffer an attack that is fatal

Which attacks tend to be

[alpine trench]

Dorry and Broggy have been able to resist it outright and execute it in the way that turned them back

[hot cairn]

Rocks is not alive because he was killed outside of domi reversi @hazy turret @somber flare

he's not in his domi reversi form in this page

[latent hamlet]

Plot twist: rocks body was dead but not his mind

Garling just wanted to stab him

[prisma yacht]

I want to see why imu was so chill after allat

[hot cairn]

I hope there's more info about it cause right now it seems... odd?

[latent hamlet]

Wdym? Like he doesnt care or 0 backlash

[urban lodge]

It's Oda making it up as it goes like the lunarian thing

[tidal ice]

Imu has way bigger fish to fry

[prisma yacht]

0 backlash

[tidal ice]

True, just like haki in general

[latent hamlet]

Imb4 its "oh it only works if a demon kills themselves"

[hot cairn]

I know, but still this ability is kinda weird

[latent hamlet]

It seems backlash occurs via contracts, judging by Harald

[hot cairn]

I dont really care much about it but I understand the complaints

[latent hamlet]

Who was contracted, and received a significant boost

[prisma yacht]

no I didn't mean that

[alpine trench]

Also, I don’t fully take Imu’s description of the powers at face value

[hot cairn]

it sure does feel like it

[prisma yacht]

like imu gets to know about nidhoggr and nika

[alpine trench]

Is the Lunarian thing even made up as it goes

Their biology is quite simple

Fire on: defense
Fire low: offense

That’s it

[urban lodge]

Marco seems to somehow have hurt King flames on

[somber flare]

perfectly consistent I say

[latent hamlet]

Lunarian fire on seems to make em nearly invulnerable

So why did king turn em off

[trim lily]

technically he shouldn’t ever need to cause it’s not like he was especially slow with flame on, problem is he’s just a guy

and zoro got to him

[dark nymph]

same reason he blocked Zoro's attack with his sword, he was still getting hurt and knew he would take considerable damage

[somber flare]

a lot of the problems I have with lunarian powers would be solved if the flame off mode was the default

[urban lodge]

This scene is also weird if Zoro didn't hurt him at all

[somber flare]

with the durability being a limited resource

[urban lodge]

Looks like he cut King but I've seen people try to justify it as that being haki lightning

But that's dumb

[trim lily]

durability being a limited thing he has to only activate for a split second is good

[frigid gulch]

No way

That’s blood

[dark nymph]

Zoro did hurt him he's not invulnerable in fire on mode

[trim lily]

when

as far as we know he is, same applies to seraphim

[latent hamlet]

Basically
And have the flame on mode be like so exhausting king could only sustain it for like a minute before he has to turn it off

But nah
They're gods
They got better fire powers than ace

[spice cairn]

Jesus Burgress with Electric Haki fist sonicboom wave that solos Sanji please

[urban lodge]

"Time for the stars to take the stage"
Proceeds to do no damage

Yeah I don't buy it

[frigid gulch]

That type of blood spurt is p characteristic of Onigiri

[alpine trench]

?

[trim lily]

basically everything throughout the king fight and later the seraphims reinforces you cannot hurt them with flame on

[spice cairn]

Yeah they actively had to play around this mechanic in universe

Its a big part of their species

[latent hamlet]

The seraphim getting smacked and its just 😐

[frigid gulch]

How did they get wiped if they’re invincible

They decided to collectively turn their flames off

[trim lily]

yerp

[frigid gulch]

[latent hamlet]

Hey
Their flames give em massive defense

But they forgot it severely drops their iq

[urban lodge]

Idk why Oda didn't just make them more durable instead of practically invincible with flames on

[latent hamlet]

[somber flare]

the celestials brought a lot of hoses to the top of the red line

[trim lily]

the WG promised if they turned around and turned their flames off they’d have a big surprise waiting

[latent hamlet]

Ye itd be easier to say "wow big defense boost" than "so we had to torture the kid because my god he tanks so god damn much"

[somber flare]

if Harald got tricked like that I wouldn't put it past them

[frigid gulch]

Nothing seems truly invincible but

[trim lily]

i prefer invincibility to durability

the latter isn’t as interesting a gimmick

[frigid gulch]

The way the mechanics works with the Lunarians

Theyd only ever seem to get hurt if they wanted to speed up

[urban lodge]

It's weird because Zoro keeps saying nothing can damage them

But he did damage them, so it's just an inconsistency

[spice cairn]

It clearly has its check and balances so its fine

[urban lodge]

I think they truly are supposed to be invincible

[spice cairn]

King has to actually turn on and off depending

And the opponent can abuse that.

[trim lily]

but why would he turn it off is the question

[latent hamlet]

I dont mind invincibility

But there doesnt seem to be a limit

Its like
If there was a time limit

[frigid gulch]

If there’s a a stamina component then it’s fair

[spice cairn]

Characters can be a bit stupid sometimes.

[latent hamlet]

"Turn flame on, become invulnerable for 1 minute. Cooldown: 3 minutes"

That'd be fine

[spice cairn]

But theres probably reasons

[frigid gulch]

Because you get faster

[spice cairn]

The speed being a big component

[trim lily]

speed doesn’t matter unless you’re chasing down your opponent

[latent hamlet]

Instead its
Turn flame on. Become invulnerable
Cooldown: whenever u fucking feel like it

[trim lily]

zoro wasn’t running away from him, he didn’t need extra speed

[spice cairn]

It can matter in some scenarios

[frigid gulch]

He wanted to attack him tho

[spice cairn]

It just depends on the opponent

[latent hamlet]

Zoro could have beat king if he just walked away and then king would be like "GET BACK HERE STOP IGNORING ME"

[trim lily]

yeah king failing because of his own mental state makes more sense

[frigid gulch]

You can’t sit there all day tbh

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/nabla_theta/status/2030887858760798607

Leo Gao (@nabla_theta)

"twin", "king", "queen"... why are the youths calling each other mattress sizes

X · Mar 9, 2026, 6:06 AM

[frigid gulch]

Just taking attacks

[trim lily]

well he could lol

[frigid gulch]

Eventually it’s annoying

[trim lily]

you’re guaranteed to win

[frigid gulch]

Yeh he could hypothetically

But King has pride

So he wouldn’t do it

[trim lily]

and it’s not like he was significantly slower either

[prisma yacht]

😭

[tough igloo]

King own stupidity led to his downfall lol

[trim lily]

the bigger problem is with the seraphim who shouldn’t have the same mental weakness

[tough igloo]

bro got shook into turning his flames off lmao

[frigid gulch]

King wanted to win the fight, he wasn’t gonna cheese his way through it

[latent hamlet]

"King needed to turn flames off for the speed"

Just barely matching zoro speed with flames off

[latent hamlet]

Meanwhile king's way of winning the fight

https://tenor.com/view/king-vs-zoro-one-piece-zoro-king-imperial-deep-pride-stake-gif-2907745394731430130

[frigid gulch]

He wanted to prove he was stronger proper

[tough igloo]

if King was smart he would’ve just kept his flames on and let Enma kill zoro

[frigid gulch]

His pride would never let him do that

It’s the same for others

[prisma yacht]

total pussy move

[latent hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/king-imperial-flame-wings-zoro-vs-king-fire-dragon-1062-gif-1164469234925156984

[tough igloo]

where that pride get him lol

a greenbull hype tool

[latent hamlet]

His final move was throwing fire dragons

[frigid gulch]

Well duh

[prisma yacht]

something a kaido's day 1 subordinate wld never do

[frigid gulch]

You can get burned by it

That’s the risk

Kat also stabbed himself out of pride

[tough igloo]

i already have the other seraphims over King cause they ain’t turn their flames off lol they also got much better DFs than King so that could probably play a role why they didn’t turn their flames off

[latent hamlet]

Kat didnt mind losing at that point tho

[tough igloo]

cause they don’t need to rely on speed

[trim lily]

the seraphim quite literally had no counter

other than the special gimmick gun

[frigid gulch]

But he didn’t not want to win either

[latent hamlet]

Seraphim got the upgraded flame body confirmed

[strong wadi]

kinda crazy. They dont have the years of battle experience and have yet to show haki (but i wont be surprised when they do)

[latent hamlet]

King was just 90% defense
Seraphim is true invulnerablity

Git gud king

[trim lily]

and apparently lasers?

[tough igloo]

right .. they are truly terrifying ..

they make King look like a temu verison

[trim lily]

so i guess franky can beat them and king

[frigid gulch]

Idk if they’re stronger

[tough igloo]

and he’s the original lol

[spice cairn]

They have the bio makeup of Warlord data and fruits so naturally they'll be better generally than King is.

[latent hamlet]

Seraphim lack the flame blasts

But

They got lasers

[strong wadi]

idk if y'all are underestimating king or overestimating the seraphim

[spice cairn]

The only issue is that they are absolutely unreliable just like the warlords, especially when they grow up

[latent hamlet]

And fruits

[tough igloo]

yeah King fruit was ass compared to the seraphims DFs

[trim lily]

it’s a bit hard not to overestimate the seraphim

[spice cairn]

We already saw that with S-Snake

[trim lily]

they kept zoro, luffy and lucci occupied for like hours

[sturdy steeple]

That reminds me that they do have haki, huh

[tough igloo]

King fruit was honestly useless aside from shooting face projectiles

[latent hamlet]

Its cuz this is relation to king's defense boost from flame on

[tough igloo]

Kaido should’ve got his right hand a better DF lol

[latent hamlet]

Which the mfer turned off

[spice cairn]

S-Hawk pressured Teech and had a good fight with Zoro

[sturdy steeple]

Everyone here was confident they don't because they don't really have a will of their own but I guess that's not how it works.

[spice cairn]

So yeah they are very good in their own right

[latent hamlet]

And seraphim flame on is basically 100% invulnerable as far as we can tell

[golden valley]

Well, i’d take Kings fruit over the swim fruit the jinbei seraphim have

[frigid gulch]

King is strong af in base

[tough igloo]

S Bear was fighting yonko Luffy & Lucci at the same time

they are terrifying

[frigid gulch]

And that’s ultimately what he ended off with

[tough igloo]

and they couldn’t do nothing to him

[ornate tartan]

bruh

[golden valley]

I’d also probably take Kings fruit over S-Hawk fruit

[tough igloo]

ehh

[spice cairn]

Now imagine if it was a fully grown Kuma with the same sort of battle knowledge he probably has.

[ornate tartan]

is anyone voting for king

or greenbull

[tough igloo]

idk .. im just not a fan of dinosaur zoans

idk why Kaido based his entire crew off that shit lol

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/op-one-piece-one-piece-funny-dinosaur-zoro-one-piece-gif-23856858

[trim lily]

he wanted a cool gimmick like big mom

[sturdy steeple]

I mean

[spice cairn]

Why did BM base her kids around dollar store food

[tough igloo]

Kaido known for having the largest DF army in the world and just got a bunch of dinosaur & SMILE zoans smh

[latent hamlet]

Shes a sweets junkie after all

[tough igloo]

both are idiots lol

[trim lily]

his bestie hanafuda was the lizard king or something so kaido dedicated his crew to his memory

[strong wadi]

Next you'll ask why Dalmatian ate a dalmation fruit

[sturdy steeple]

That depends on why you want that fruit. If you're someone like Sanji who can practically move as fast as a fishman under the water then the swim-swim fruit is perfect. You would be able to run fast through walls and disappear at any time.

[golden valley]

Their defense is just pretty stacked, like most people wouldn’t be able to get through Mr 1 defense, but once you meet any decent swordsman, you really aren’t that tough and need to compensate with Haki

[spice cairn]

Hanafuda and Kaido were best friends

Calling it

[sturdy steeple]

If you're an average human then King's fruit is better.

[golden valley]

Meanwhile, King fruit has defense and crazy endurance and flight

Strength buff

[spice cairn]

Why else would Kaido put up with Ulti and Page One

[tough igloo]

meanwhile the only mf on wano outside of kaido who got a DF that’s wasn’t mid was kaido own child who wasn’t even on his crew lol

[spice cairn]

Besties for life

[golden valley]

Its just overall bettr

[somber flare]

For more combat power king’s fruit is clearly better yeah

[trim lily]

ace has ruined so many families

[strong wadi]

because they are strong enough to be tobiroppo

[frigid gulch]

The Seraphim have fruits that work best for them, at least that’s what it seems to be

[spice cairn]

Roger and Ace are evil family killers

But when Sengoku wants to do it, its bad

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah but the dinosaurs are all on basis tough and strong.

[strong wadi]

Bro even falsely attacked someone based off their name.

[sturdy steeple]

Hence why Kaido went for them.

[golden valley]

Kuma fruit is just straight up superior to Kings fruit

[spice cairn]

When Ace and Roger do it. Its epic and kino

[spice cairn]

Nah

[golden valley]

Id add Boa fruit but its more person specific

[spice cairn]

Its more nuanced

Kaido is indebited

So much as he took his children as his own after his passing

[sturdy steeple]

Like Queen's fruit is a walking tank among dinosaurs.

[brittle basin]

Today's vote.

[golden valley]

Though, taking into account users, then Kuma and Boa fruit >>>>>> any ancient zoan

[spice cairn]

They just happened to be Tobi tier.

[spice cairn]

She looks happy

I wonder why

Why isn't she reading a book

[spice cairn]

The main perk is that these dinosaur fruits, and zoans in general are insanely durable

[tough igloo]

in terms of which crews got the best DFs overall i’d say it’s

1.) Blackbeard Pirates
2.) Rocks Pirates
3.) WB Pirates
4 & 5.) Kaido or Big Mom crews
6.) Straw Hats (they could be above Kaido & Big Mom crews )

[spice cairn]

That was something that gave them a massive edge

King's fruit combines all these qualities plus flight

PLUS lunar genetic abilities

If I were his race, a zoan would be an amazing 2nd line of defense

[strong wadi]

aint no way it's blackbeard pirates

blackbeard doing a lot of the heavy lifting himself

[tough igloo]

BBP has 2 mythical zoans , chilly logia , gura gura & yami yami .. not even mentioning the other fruits

that collection alone is better than all other crews DFs

[spice cairn]

Mind you they barely managed to capture Garp if it wasnt for Kuzan

Who also struggled

Uh oh....

Teech sisters...

[soft tangle]

Teleportation fruits are instant top tier

[tough igloo]

sick sick fruit is also wild

they have the best collection of DFs out of any crew

[spice cairn]

And Law essentially probably had it in the bag, had Teech not been there

[somber flare]

I’d imagine it would be tough for any crew to capture Garp

[soft tangle]

Sick sick is the most OP fruit in any other verse

[sturdy steeple]

I think it mostly comes from the fact that King's zoan duplicates his own abilities. He's already able to fly and he's tough even without it.

I think any other dino would've been better.

Like a tougher one.

[soft tangle]

In terms of capabilities

[golden valley]

Bb pirates have the best df’s as a crew yes

[tough igloo]

agree .. it’s Garp

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-d-garp-vs-shiryu-one-piece-monkey-d-garp-shiryu-shiryu-of-the-blackbeard-pirates-gif-2600093985007009299

[golden valley]

Theres a reason why Oda said he’d join the BBP’s

[spice cairn]

I think it serves to further enhance his durability

But its just for the Dino meme

I think its a serviceable zoan

[somber flare]

Every emperor does like 90%+ of the lifting of their crew

[spice cairn]

It compliments the lunar pros well

[sturdy steeple]

No, I mean, I get it. It just needed a better dino to go with.

[strong wadi]

Ok this one is good too.

[spice cairn]

A land one, maybe. But that mightve been a bit clunky with editors

[stone terrace]

If youre a top tier its basically impossible to catch you

[tough igloo]

a catarina devon DF can end up being way more broken than what we’ve seen so far .., i’m confident she can copy more than just appearance

[stone terrace]

Kizaru couldnt even catch rayleigh

[spice cairn]

They probably wanted this fight to be flashy and edgy

[strong wadi]

unless sick sick got more up its sleeve, it's a very bad fruit

[vapid marten]

Hello

[sturdy steeple]

That's possible

[spice cairn]

Im shocked it wasnt like a T rex

King... T Rex

[stone terrace]

It only happens if youre sacrificing yourself or something extreme

[spice cairn]

King of the dinosaurs

But Hanafuda robbed it.

[sturdy steeple]

Because at the end of the day, King's whole gimmick revolves around his race. We get only one thing with dino.

[tough igloo]

facts literally every yonko crew is top heavy with the rest being mid-average

[spice cairn]

So it is what it is.

[sturdy steeple]

No T-rex, no conqueror's haki......

This King is a....

[spice cairn]

It could be overpowered via Law

So idk

[latent hamlet]

I think more importantly its a willingness to stay where u are

[spice cairn]

Unless its disease specific

[tough igloo]

if Garp pulled up on any yonko crew where half the crew is gone and the yonko himself isn’t there, it’s gonna be hard as hell to capture him

[strong wadi]

t-rex is too similar to drake's even if they're technically different

[spice cairn]

I know but it would be a cool meme

[latent hamlet]

Rayleigh could escape kizaru cuz he can just fucking run for it lol

[urban lodge]

Drake ruining everything once again

[spice cairn]

King is a T Rex because hes "King" of the dinosaurs and "king" of the beast pirates

So it would've been punny

But Oda hates fun

[urban lodge]

He robbed us of the cooler big carnivorous dino

[spice cairn]

And he gave it to Hanafuda who died offscreen to Ace anyways

Well, lost

He died by scavengers

[soft tangle]

Swim

[tawny panther]

calling it now … the Nine Tailed Fox mythical zoan can also copy memories and/or some abilities

[ornate tartan]

bruh

tell these ngas put davy jones in the poll

and use the sbs pic

[latent hamlet]

Unrelated but I just thought of something

Imagine if when this chapter episode gets animated
The to be continued happens immediately after dorry and broggy cut their heads off

[tawny panther]

Mr.2 regular paramecia could already copy full appearances pre timeskip .. Devon fruit is mythical zoan so it’ll be able to do more than just that

[somber flare]

If you vote for Davy Jones you should be banned from ever voting on another one piece popularity poll

[graceful grove]

He is available ?

[soft tangle]

Blackbeard is

[spice cairn]

LOCAL SEA MONSTER

[urban lodge]

Wtf

Is lord of the coast not its official name?

[spice cairn]

Nah

[brittle basin]

Local Sea Monster has such little bitch energy

[spice cairn]

Yeah like

Hes local

[brittle basin]

this actually downscales Shanks

[sturdy steeple]

Virgin Local Sea Monster vs Chad LORD OF THE COAST

[spice cairn]

Lord of the coast is amazing

Because that implies hes a lord of coasts in general

Like folklore tier shit

[high wolf]

Shanks rival 🥹

[spice cairn]

Local Sea Monster is basic bitch

[brittle basin]

Folksnore more like for local sea monster

[ornate tartan]

bruh luffy one shot this same mf in chapter 1💀

[brittle basin]

I must think of who I will vote for tomorrow.

[grand flower]

Facts

[fossil nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-fan-letter-fan-letter-marineford-marineford-arc-gif-14833187253803925646

[high wolf]

Chapter 1 Luffy upscale I guess

[graceful grove]

There is no davy jones. U liar

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/netflix-mihawk-gif-16017751859179581136

[high wolf]

Mihawk highkey tuff in LA

[brittle basin]

LA Mihawk>Manga and Toei Mihawk
ez. gg.

[graceful grove]

Tama shall be my next vote

[hot cairn]

break week

[dense haven]

yall vote rocks

[rose rune]

Oh no! I haven't voted for red king yet!

And my discord is spazzing out

[brittle basin]

maybe i vote rocks. haven't decided yet. still have like 80 fucking days

[prisma yacht]

I voted for bepo today

[proud pivot]

Imagine voting after the first day

[prisma yacht]

I have a list

[fallen meteor]

huh?!

discord is dying

i cant send images

[dense haven]

treu everyone knows only the first day counts

[fallen meteor]

cant sent images and theres no pinned messages

oh no

[prisma yacht]

yea I just sent my bepo's vote img

[fallen meteor]

can someone link the voting thing

[prisma yacht]

it got sucked into the abyss or some

[fallen meteor]

when it fixes itself it will shit out all the voided images at once

[prisma yacht]

Its in the pins and it's not loading for me

I can't even react now!?

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/mazaochizao/status/2031041503540191249?s=20 Zoro's goggles look goofy even in art

mazzz (COMMS OPEN) (@mazaochizao)

#ONEPIECE

X · Mar 9, 2026, 4:16 PM

[prisma yacht]

Omfg bruh

I can't react

[dense haven]

sanji with the sans eye

sansji

[wraith mantle]

I can’t send images either

[iron oriole]

classic Discord

[wraith mantle]

Our embed rights are gone

[brittle basin]

huh. neither can I. probably some racist act against us.

[stray prism]

What's a react

[proud pivot]

What race are you

Lunarian?

[prisma yacht]

I have heard bluko say that she might remove ur react mute

[brittle basin]

I am the human race, silly!

[stray prism]

I don't consent

[prisma yacht]

bro it's not allowing me to send MESSAGES

[dense rapids]

Davy Back Fight is the legend of Davy Jones vs Imu passed down on how he had to defeat turned friends to bring them back to his side

[iron oriole]

Discord is ending

[prisma yacht]

2012

but it's 2026

[iron oriole]

time to go back to IRC & TS3

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/2012-destruction-earthquake-gif-11348718

[urban lodge]

We're finally free

[iron oriole]

break week

[rose rune]

Magellan

[stone terrace]

No

Hannyabal

[rose rune]

No

Magellan

[dense haven]

its simply absurd there is no ragnir in the poll

they are afraid of him

[rose rune]

I've forgotten her name

[stone terrace]

Ahiru

[rose rune]

I'll never remember that

[brittle basin]

already did of course

[prisma yacht]

its too late

[iron oriole]

vote Tama

[dense haven]

can yall take this poll seriously

op fans disgust me

[stone terrace]

I am voting yasuie next

[iron oriole]

i take this completely serious

i vote Robin, Brook & Tama every day

[grand flower]

HEAT

[prisma yacht]

Such a cute pose

[brittle basin]

Not a single woman. Curious.

[prisma yacht]

gasp

[brittle basin]

we're all just like johto and sb

[stone terrace]

Not even on the 8th

[prisma yacht]

I was about to vote for ida today

[iron oriole]

i should do some votes on Ida just so that she ends up above Estrid

[dense haven]

sb found a buddy

[prisma yacht]

Oh shut up

[prisma idol]

Day 1: Nami
Day 2-6: Maffey
Day 7: Kiku
Day 8: Maffey

I also morally vote, one vote per day

[brittle basin]

Bluko voting for child abusers. it's so over

[prisma yacht]

Same

[prisma yacht]

Chudffey

[prisma idol]

She was saving the children from being kidnapped by a rogue Marine from their cushy CD life

[brittle basin]

ah actually true. good analysis

[stone terrace]

Is shoujo prince named

[rose rune]

My list so far is beautiful women, an ugly bastard, and a bird

[prisma idol]

No

[brittle basin]

good bird

[prisma idol]

I assume Vasco?

[rose rune]

Yeah

[rose rune]

Vasco, Ida, Perona, Gunko and Morgans.

[prisma idol]

Perona vote is based

[rose rune]

Ngl. I kinda regret my gunko vote. Should have been another Ida vote

[brittle basin]

I don't know enough about gunko to vote

[dense haven]

@urban lodge

[rose rune]

You rat!

This is why we love spice

[iron oriole]

such an instigator

[ruby cape]

Sommers getting a vote from me tomororw

[rose rune]

I'd vote for spice if he was in one piece

[dense haven]

I'd get the one piece in a week

[stray prism]

So far I voted rocks zoro Franky jinbe morgans oden perona

[prisma yacht]

Squeak squeak

[urban lodge]

It's ok, I forgive you if you vote for her at least one more time. You still have 3 months to vote for Ida

[rose rune]

I don't need forgiveness

[craggy vapor]

theory: Since that monster ate Shanks’ arm, it has now a contract with Imu.

[stray prism]

Tomorrow I'll vote enel maybe

[iron oriole]

Shanks will still be effected by his mark

[spice cairn]

AYO WHY IS DISCORD NOT WORKING

Oh

Its workig

[stray prism]

Fixed it

[spice cairn]

carry on im sorry for screaming

[craggy vapor]

what’s the evidence for this?

[spice cairn]

i will now type in lower case to atone

[rose rune]

Discord has been weird on mobile today

[unique lagoon]

enel really got robbed
at least he got his goal by the end

[spice cairn]

yeah the messaging was down

I had to write on pen and paper in my vc

The absolute state

[rose rune]

Vote for red king

[stray prism]

He had it better than other antagonist so its good

[spice cairn]

Make love not war

[stray prism]

[unique lagoon]

maybe they uploaded a new ai update borked the servers

[dense haven]

vibecoding discord servers

[rose rune]

"I may be a cyborg, but my heart is not metal"

[iron oriole]

why tf would you put something that can be easily removed like that on his arm, its probably a mark on his "soul" & the visible mark is just for show

like idk if its just me but if i'm putting this mark on someone so i can control them, i'm not putting it on their arm if it can be easily removed... that shit is going on their neck or some shit, you want it removed? die then

[rose rune]

They did that on harald

On his arm

Imu is just dum

[craggy vapor]

this is Oda u are dealing with. The same Oda that decided the cure to domi reversi is to just die

[rose rune]

Good lesson to teach the kids

[hazy turret]

Which fruit does he have again

[rose rune]

"If the man is bad, you can cure him by killing him"

[hazy turret]

Do we know?

[iron oriole]

Harald had regen arguably making it infinitely harder to remove to begin with & the one that Harald has is supposed to make you completely unable to resist Imu's demands

Shanks was the basic ass mark, gave him nothing but being controlled by Imu when near them

but still like i said, i think the mark is just for show

[rose rune]

No fruit that we know of

[hot cairn]

Rocks? he doesnt have a fruit

[urban lodge]

Boring ass hakiman

[prisma yacht]

Rocks had mera Mera no mi

[hazy turret]

Did he not disappear and shit

Was that not an ability he had

[rose rune]

No, he just ran around and hit stuff really hard

[hazy turret]

There are gaps in my knowledge

[dense haven]

he was the previous ope ope user

[hazy turret]

Well anyways this just makes it more possible that he’s alive now

We didn’t see him die

[rose rune]

Oh lol. I forgot people were saying that

[rose rune]

We just saw garling standing over him ready to stab

He's the new Pound

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-pound-pound-one-piece-charlotte-chiffon-chiffon-gif-26175906

[iron oriole]

Rocks is dead

dont make him the new BM/Kaido

[rose rune]

Rocks is the burn scar man

[prisma yacht]

Rocks is waiting for us in the heaven realm

[rose rune]

Big mom is also the burn scar man

[urban lodge]

Rocks is Bluejam? Whoa

[craggy vapor]

Rocks is only dead if you believe he is dead. As long as you keep him close to your heart and never forget him, he can’t die!

[prisma yacht]

Bravo

[hot cairn]

nope

[hot cairn]

I think he's dead

[nocturne glacier]

Rocks had the poop poop no mi model Diarrhea

[grand flower]

Rocks is fire scar

https://youtu.be/eSO22lVxSGI?si=nLX8JdSUzym4jwBj

[eternal viper]

Does anybody have any ideas for what the other fruit Xebec was looking for?

only thing I can think of rn is the Yami

[urban lodge]

Definitely the yami

Teach bet his entire life on finding it

If he didn't he was gonna rot away forever on Wb's crew

[tawny panther]

seems the most likely .. especially since Eris survived God Valley with Teach & knew of Rocks plan

[final trench]

The power of davy jones

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-marshall-d-teach-one-piece-black-hole-shida-gif-10093351408108668301

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rocks-d-xebec-gif-17441576166473385864

[prisma yacht]

Cape looking so dope

[tawny panther]

i think it’s damn near impossible that Eris wouldn’t have told Teach everything that Rocks knew

since he is their last hope

[final trench]

Studied the fruit to a T
Rocks sword = eclipse
Curse of the abyss/Pandemonium
Also🌗

When theres light, theres darkness

Davy/blackbeard are that necessary evil to luffy/joyboy

[tawny panther]

this shit had to be prophesied .. ain’t no way 2.0 of Davy Joyboy Poseidon Lily God of War all came back during the same era lol

Void Century must’ve had its own Madam Shyralay who told Imu about this shit happening in the future lol

[formal wagon]

i think it was an inheritence paramecia devil fruit. Based on a video game , Romancing Saga 2, which is largely suspected to have been the inspiration for the original warords. In addition to that, the titular romance is present in oda's initial one shots of one piece, romance dawn 1 and 2, as well as One piece's first arc. In Romancing Saga, 2 a central mechanic is an inheritance power, which I think Rocks either got and passed on to his son, resulting in the stange "they" panel as well as the ability to eat multiple devil fruits. The idea that romancing saga 2 is a heavy influence on One piece is also used for many other theories, most of them memes, such as crocomom and mihawk and boa as siblings.

[final trench]

Either that or imu is kinda catching on

Besides majority of them lacking the “truth” i think imu isnt acting constantly because he has something in his back pocket

Whatever it is

[unique lagoon]

i think nika needed to bring 2 sovereigns together to do something
but failed twice
now luff the chosen one
also imu don't want this

[tawny panther]

if they just now catching on , that shit gotta be stressful lol

if your Imu and all these people come back , it gotta feel like this is the time where you finally lose

i’m sure in the back of Imu mind they thinking that lol

[final trench]

I mean yea because back in the day atmost it was just rocks

Everyone else mellowed out

[unique lagoon]

i dont see a lot of talk about imu saying his world is incomplete

y

[final trench]

Then roger found the one piece and encouraged everyone else to try and find it because his treasure is attached to it

[unique lagoon]

i mean imu lol

[tawny panther]

lol yeah i was confused like when did luffy talk about his world

but yeah that is interesting …

[unique lagoon]

then rocks said it was never imus world

[final trench]

Too many people discovering the truth

Thats why in elbaf they targeted the library

[tawny panther]

Imu told Rocks their world wouldn’t be complete until all Davy Clan are dead and gone but Imu also believed that killing Rocks would stop Joyboy & Davy Jones from coming back so idk 🤷🏾‍♂️ lol they might just be delusional & paranoid due to old age

[final trench]

They still know about nika

[unique lagoon]

but the world got destroyed twice so wtf is imu talking about

[final trench]

(If there somehow is a way) maybe he needs to destroy the DFs

Aslong as the yami yami and the nika fruit exist theres still gonna be people aiming to destroy him

[unique lagoon]

did Poseidon literally sank the world so imu wont get it? and imu wants next Poseidon to fix it somehow?

[tawny panther]

based of the elbaf mural saying the sea god raged when the sun god was killed , i lowkey think the OG Poseidon just did it out of anger (assuming the mural is accurate )

[final trench]

Probably one of the reasons they oppress fishmen

Make them feel like they have no real power

Also imu is helping the world sink by using the motherflame

[unique lagoon]

i think all 3 world has a connection
this cycle the one sea kings said
"surely it will go well this time"
nika tried twice already

joyboys promise was to find nidhogg but failed and imu managed to stop him

[tawny panther]

yeah i think first world is where the “gods” that some DFs are based on existed and greedy humans

i believe 2nd world is when Imu came into existence and took over the world from Davy Jones while also going at it with Joyboy

3rd world is where everyone from both 1st & 2nd world come back (not literal but descendants/will being passed on ) to completely change the world for “better” this time

[unique lagoon]

can even argue that first world was the opposite
nika found nidhogg but cant find Poseidon

[final trench]

Possibly davies 👀

[unique lagoon]

which we saw already nika vs former nidhogg

[ornate tartan]

yoo

[unique lagoon]

that might be first world

[ornate tartan]

i tried to vote for davy jones and i couldn’t find him

[final trench]

After seeing a theory on it im convinced

That could be a fate worse than death

Plus they mentioned the galleila

[unique lagoon]

fate worst than death is imu giving you immortality but locks you in a box forever

[pine scaffold]

''Xebec wont be in the top 10''

[unique lagoon]

ye we talked about this skill was the gallile giants and fish man

[urban lodge]

In 3 regions out of 8, in the first week of a 3 month long vote

[unique lagoon]

man i really want the god of war to be some sort of crafter of weapons or ships

[tawny panther]

how many chapters did it take ? less than 20 for sure . maybe less than 15

Corazon might be surpassed by Rocks for the most popular flashback character in one piece lol

[unique lagoon]

how may votes been sent sofar?

[rose rune]

This makes it sound like he's rank 5 overall.

[ornate tartan]

he already did by far

[tawny panther]

idk about by far lol Corazon is surprisingly way more popular than i originally thought

[ornate tartan]

no trust me

[urban lodge]

Wait they removed the top 5 from the site LOL

[ornate tartan]

this guy rocks has a lot of hype

[rose rune]

Kinda like winning a local arm wrestling tournament and claiming you're the world champion

[tawny panther]

Corazon was more popular than half the straw hats & Doffy lol

right behind shanks

[urban lodge]

Op twitter accounts think they're equivalent

[prisma yacht]

Bcs of law

[ornate tartan]

strawhats always gonna be top tier when it comes to popularity

[ornate tartan]

to the point mihawk fans beefing w chopper fans😂😂😂😂

[rose rune]

I still think rocks will do well tho. He's a good character

[ornate tartan]

crazy work

[prisma yacht]

Omg this ss flashed me

[urban lodge]

He'll be relatively high, maybe top 15, but I would bet my internal organs he doesn't get top 5

[tawny panther]

yeah social media one piece fandom seems to love him so he’ll be high , he won’t be top 5 like some early polls say but probably top 10-15 (like Corazon was )

[urban lodge]

Sorry

[prisma yacht]

Its alright

[rose rune]

It's all white*

[unique lagoon]

why no one talking about heralds ranking

[tawny panther]

lol is he even ranked

who wasting a vote on the CD lapdog lol

[upbeat yarrow]

top 5 is always reserved for the first 3 strawhats, law, robin, ace and sanji

[ornate tartan]

bro i voted for the most ridiculous shit

i voted for a fucking dog

[tawny panther]

Ida & Hajrudin might get more votes than Harald lol

[rose rune]

Ewww

[unique lagoon]

not sure if oda intended herald to end up being an annoying naive character

[ornate tartan]

sanji tho

[upbeat yarrow]

the only characters i see hitting top 5 this ranking is either shanks or loki

[ornate tartan]

😂

[rose rune]

Valid

It's not 100% dog

[grand flower]

He wasn’t naive

[tawny panther]

i think it was intentional , cause there was a stretch of like 3 chapters where Harald just got worst and worst (not in terms of character cause he’s very well written )

[urban lodge]

I think the top 5 will still be the same old Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Sanji and Law

[tawny panther]

Law popularity is insane lol

[iron oriole]

Rocks kinda got the motion to make it there

[ornate tartan]

Robin**

Robin is beating law this time

[urban lodge]

Shanks will make it top 10

Maybe

But they're always really close

[grand flower]

Harald bought into the WGs image because you don’t maintain a secret fascist empire for 800 years without convincingly making it appealing

He wasn’t naive

[tawny panther]

the same Robin who Oda been sidelining ? lol

[grand flower]

The WG just did their job right

[ornate tartan]

bro she got motion on the votes

[upbeat yarrow]

big true however i HIGHLY doubt rocks scoring above loki

[tawny panther]

maybe if Oda doesn’t show Law this arc but we’ve seen Law every arc since Punk Hazard lol

[unique lagoon]

i mean oda was like
look at this guys downward spiral into oblivion aint he cool?yall should feel bad for him
but nope

[tawny panther]

i can’t see him dropping in popularity

[grand flower]

Naivety would mean that Harald was unaware of information he should have learned given his position and experience

But that doesn’t apply to him

[ornate tartan]

robin might surpass him slightly

but i wouldn’t be shocked if Law stays top 5

[grand flower]

Everything he saw said “the WG protects their own”

[still mason]

BB better place high this time, he's earned it

[grand flower]

He didn’t have any information to conclude imu was about to hoe him

[tawny panther]

villains never place high

[ionic palm]

hoping Loki places top 8 :p

[tawny panther]

popularity polls is full of good guys

[grand flower]

What makes Harald cool is that everything he did made sense given what he knew

The ire should be on imu for taking advantage of Harald

[ornate tartan]

is that why rocks is so high😂 most people think he’s a hero

[grand flower]

Not on Harald for being as dedicated as he was to progress

[tawny panther]

only shonen where a villain would place very high in popularity polls is Dragon Ball Z with Frieza or Bleach

[unique lagoon]

herald was that gambling addict trying to chase that 0.001 percent

[grand flower]

Not really

[stone terrace]

One piece is a story about rebelling and rocks didnthat

[grand flower]

From his POV he’s seen the WG protect their own

And the Navy especially protect innocents

[iron oriole]

[tawny panther]

lol surprisingly .. i love rocks but a lot of rocks fans act like he was just such a good guy

[grand flower]

The WG was an organization with bad actors but ultimately more positive

[tawny panther]

cause he cared about his family lmao

that man was a bad guy lol

[grand flower]

That image is very much by their design

You can’t blame Harald for believing it

[unique lagoon]

guy tunnel visioned dint care for anything else

[grand flower]

Theyve gotten away with it for 800 years for a reason

[grand flower]

Again, there wasn’t anything to tip Harald off about how bad the path was

[tawny panther]

“ Rocks wanted to rule the world to change it for the better “

[iron oriole]

Oda kinda helped to paint him in a better light too though, like that one island we was shown that they robbed was embezzling the money

[grand flower]

The closest was “Theres people in the WG who do bad stuff” and the flashback made sure to remind us why you can’t hold that against Harald

[unique lagoon]

imo i think elbaf was fine on its own they survived so far after millennia

[grand flower]

Well that’s the mistake there

[barren token]

Doffy, croc, katakuri all placed higher than franky and brook last poll...

[grand flower]

Harald wasn’t thinking about just Elbaph

[prisma yacht]

Also elbaf wasn't fine btw

[unique lagoon]

elbaf wanted to be in with da cool kids

[latent hamlet]

I think harald was thinking about the potential future rather than condemn future generations to JUST be warmongers

[prisma yacht]

we literally see them crumbling

[grand flower]

Haralds full vision was knowing that Elbaph could offer the world far more than the world thinks to make lives better, and it incensed and frustrated him that Elbaph’s history stopped people in the world from seeing that

[barren token]

We might need to kill oda for this one

Couldn't even have rocks just steal

[latent hamlet]

"Guys they weren't evil they only went after bad guys"

[iron oriole]

basically

[latent hamlet]

"A bad guy beating up a bad guy means they're good!"

[grand flower]

That doesn’t put rocks in a better light because he still kept the money

Robbing someone who robbed children is still you robbing those children

[latent hamlet]

Rocks is just

New management

[grand flower]

At the end of the day those children didn’t get the money

[unique lagoon]

back then i thought elbaf will have this vast history and lore cuz wg dint touch them but nah

[sturdy steeple]

I'm still so confused on Rocks

[stone terrace]

Rocks was a douche but people wanted him to be overtly evil so bad

[iron oriole]

it doesn't make him as bad as say robbing random civi #2534 for everything he's worth, it makes Rocks a more morally grey character ig

[sturdy steeple]

This guy is seen stabbing children and we gotta think of him as a good guy? Nah

[upbeat yarrow]

rocks was just the lesser evil compared to the wg

[barren token]

It still obviously paints him in a better light then him just directly stealing from an actual charity

[stone terrace]

Yea thats the moral of the story

The wg is just absurdly evil

[iron oriole]

listen... Loki clearly liked it, he kept going back for more

[grand flower]

My guy the HARLEY?

[urban lodge]

Maybe Melontee was right and he stabbed Loki to keep him safe on Elbaf

[grand flower]

The LIBRARY?

[stone terrace]

Even a scoundrel like rocks looks tame in comparison

[unique lagoon]

no one was keeping proper records of elbaf history at all. mfs are all oga booga who cares about history
its all vague legends

[sturdy steeple]

Loki might be a masochist but that doesn't really excuse Rocks

[grand flower]

He kept money meant for orphans

Yall need perspective

[iron oriole]

money that was never going to orphans anyway

[tawny panther]

lol yeah you got a point but on that same page he laid out all the insane villainy shit he did lol

[stone terrace]

The money was never going to orphans

[grand flower]

He still took money from orphans

[stone terrace]

Was rocks supposed to hand it out himself?

[sturdy steeple]

WB would've done that very likely lol

[stone terrace]

Hand it over to the navy so they can purchase a new f-150 jet to kill him with

[grand flower]

If I watch somebody take your wallet and I steal that wallet from him, you got robbed by two people

[barren token]

No one is saying him stealing from the fake charity was heroic

[iron oriole]

^

[urban lodge]

Characters like him who Oda tries too hard to make likeable have the opposite effect on me

[tawny panther]

unless i’m supposed to believe that the 14 ports that Rocks turned to ash & 5 towns he wiped off the map had no innocent people there lol

[unique lagoon]

elbaf cant even read the Harley properly
the language was lost
someone messed with giant history man

[barren token]

Just obviously not as evil as stealing from an actual charity

[grand flower]

Oh no I’m not pushing back on the claim that it made him full blown heroic

I’m pushing back that it makes rocks look ANY better

Stealing from someone who you knew stole from children is still you stealing from children

[sturdy steeple]

I don't think him being lesser evil according to some is anything to go by. He's still very much evil.

[grand flower]

You took money meant to go to children ans kept it

There’s no lesser about it

[upbeat yarrow]

not the type to control the world for 800 years but the type of guy that may steal your lunch money everyday or so, 2 very different kinds of evil

[grand flower]

You did the exact same thing

You took money for orphans lol

[unique lagoon]

its the same case with FMI Wano now elbaf mfs are just clueless of the past
they really did good cleaning history

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah, this is what I'm saying.

He ain't Robin Hood lol

[tawny panther]

Rocks not being as bad as his son ≠ Rocks ain’t bad lol

Rocks crew also full of pirates who would be level 6 impel down lol

he just ain’t have to break them out

[barren token]

Ok let me put it another way, why do you think oda decided to point out it was a fake charity

[urban lodge]

Because he's a coward

He can't let the pirate steal

[barren token]

Yeah

[unique lagoon]

maybe first world history is just completely lost
joyboy knew this and learned from it
made the glyphs

he really is a champ

[tawny panther]

to show that Rocks pirates are fucked up for what they doing but also the people they’re stealing from are also fucked up peopel

[sturdy steeple]

I dunno, I feel like the only difference is that Rocks respects his crewmates. He still kills, still steals, still does some fucked up shit like with Loki.

[stone terrace]

There you go lol

There is an obvious degree of separation

[tawny panther]

but he wouldn’t tell us on the next pages about rocks wiping towns off the map & reducing ports to ash if he wanted us to think Rocks was a good guy for robbing a shady charity organization

[unique lagoon]

maybe it would have been better if rocks was a bit ominous