also-manga

[iron oriole]

They're still holding on & fighting the control as best as they can, their pride refuses to allow them to take Jarul's head so they both decide to try what they can to stop themselves, which led them to decapitate eachother

[shadow python]

Kuma saved bb and his mom

[prisma yacht]

How come rocks wasn't able to stop or atleast divert his sword swing from his wife and child

[shadow python]

Domi controls you

Dorry and broggy took enough damage to become lucid for awhile

[unique lagoon]

hes saying why dint rocks had enough willpower to stop the initial control

[prisma yacht]

sure but with warriors pride dorry and brogy were able to swing at each other

[cosmic hamlet]

How ungrateful of bb to never thank kuma for saving him

[shadow python]

Because willpower was never shown to be enough

In every case of someone breaking control it was after they were hit really hard

[prisma yacht]

Wtf are you talking about that man literally had conqs

[unique lagoon]

or Imus will power is just stronger

simple as

rocks fans hate this btw

[shadow python]

Nothing indicates this is will based

[prisma yacht]

no butter idgaf about it I just want it to make sense

[unique lagoon]

consider also that GV imu is wayy stronger

[shadow python]

We have 2 domi examples and in 3 cases Imus possession is stopped by getting owchies

[cosmic hamlet]

I bet bb's mother died of illness

[iron oriole]

Tbh Rocks' swings were wild etc, even if he did divert it slightly, it probably would have hit them

As for why he didn't try to break out beforehand, idk could be due to the way Imu domi'd him.. since it was seemingly different to Brogy (no circle, no grimoire etc)

[prisma yacht]

so are we saying now the dr ability depends on this as well

[shadow python]

Eris might just be alive. She lived through a buster call, god valley, and a flashback as a one piece mom

[unique lagoon]

it makes sense tbh
why not just say imu is stronger then reason rocks got owned
true until proven otherwise vibe

get what i mean?

[prisma yacht]

Hm

Sure I'll go with that

[unique lagoon]

since oda dint blatantly write this is how DR works
then better pick a good reason for now

[shadow python]

Why would imu be stronger at god valley?

[iron oriole]

Stronger than Rocks

Which is obvious tbh

[unique lagoon]

cuz the blob form is stronger than gunko version

[iron oriole]

Oh i disagree with this

[unique lagoon]

why

[prisma yacht]

Hmm I can have this

[tidal ice]

Poor reception to Elbaf

[unique lagoon]

imu was using saturns body similar to gunko
until the blob showed up

[iron oriole]

Gunkmu seems like a perfect host situation

Imuturn looked almost parasitic in nature, like it was incomplete

[unique lagoon]

also saturn is a gorosei who knows if that affects it

surely we dont think imu using peoples body is not 1 to 1 to the OG body

power wise

[iron oriole]

OG body definitely stronger

[unique lagoon]

its not a perfect host simply cuz gunko broke out somehow

the perfect host is someone like saturn who fully follows

[shadow python]

Theres enough speculation to be had without muddying it up more

[unique lagoon]

or sommers man that would be funny

[iron oriole]

Perfect host as in, it doesn't look like an abomination.. Imu isn't seemingly coming out of Gunko like it was with Imuturn

[shadow python]

But dorry and broggy having a weaker domi than Rocks could explain things

[unique lagoon]

i think imu can still puke out of gunko makingher stronger

saturn leaving GV panel
imu was inside him without the blob

cuz meta wise surely gunko/imu has more stuff to deliver here threat wise

cuz its not here right now

[iron oriole]

Also the form we got with Gunkmu, makes me think we wont get the blob thing coming out of her

[shadow python]

Don't believe so. Brook can handle imu. Domi Loki seems like more of an issue anyway

[iron oriole]

Why give her a specific form like that...

Its just a bit weird, especially with how close Gunko is to Imu anyway as their aide

[shadow python]

Makes her more aesthetically pleasing for promotional art

Transformations have always had appeal

[iron oriole]

Think this is more than just "it looks good for promotions"

[unique lagoon]

i just think imu/gunko will get stronger
and the best bet right now is GV mode

[iron oriole]

Devil tail, trident... it screams "one with Imu" to me, probably forced to be that way with wiping Gunko's memories but still

[unique lagoon]

also brook will mind fuck her more ruins the plan
gets desperate and do more shit

imu could switch to sommers or killingham for all i know

its going to be one very annoying ability thats for sure

[iron oriole]

I've started thinking that Shamrock might get summoned back to Elbaf

Or at least more HKs

Wouldn't mind if Shamrock comes back for his first mission as Supreme Commander, alongside Garling who is overseeing him

[prisma yacht]

I'm thinking we will be seeing imu's yokai form

imu wont risk more hks to the Nika and nidhoggr is what I believe

[prisma yacht]

Along with this

we might get a teaser for void century

Saul saying something

including the name of the ancient kingdom

is what I believe to be covered in this arc

Um

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-funny-smile-happy-gif-4163740030726237429

[unique lagoon]

would be sick to see more HK design

[iron oriole]

Ragnir gonna drop the full doc

[unique lagoon]

could drop nasujuro here just saying
then give that guy some backstory revealing more about gorosei past

[prisma yacht]

Saul will

[tidal ice]

So chopper will translate

[iron oriole]

Nah its gonna be revealed that Ragnir can just talk

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/rocks-d-xebec-vs-harald-the-king-of-giants-fight-the-davy-legacy-gif-4898321560894560005

[prisma yacht]

Looks cool

[unique lagoon]

is it the same guy making these animations?

https://tenor.com/tMr9kd0OrSL.gif

[prisma yacht]

Style looks the same

I just found out ppl are thinking franky used haki last chapter

[unique lagoon]

liliths science force out haki out of cyborgs body now

https://tenor.com/view/ruben-cervantes-javier-bardem-formula-1-f1-f1-movie-gif-7594889906374898185

[formal wagon]

science is odas best power system so far

[unique lagoon]

just waiting on this confirmation now

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-meek-mill-dreams-and-nightmares

[prisma yacht]

[solid mantle]

heyo

dead chat

[sudden bloom]

Anyone went to One Piece Cafe in LA? This month is Sanji's birthday and they offer Sanji Spicy Noodle for only a month.

[solid mantle]

can you buy me a ticket to LA?

I'll go

[mighty shell]

wait i live here

lmfao

i should go

[sudden bloom]

There's one in Las Vegas, Franky's old VA went there

Emood you can go there but it's kinda crowded in the weekends, especially when the new D Line station comes out

[rose rune]

D???

[mighty shell]

goda level foreshadowing

[rose rune]

LV is the one piece

[high wolf]

[rose rune]

my brain mixed las vegas and VA from voice actor

[sudden bloom]

It's the extention of Metro D Line that ends at Miracle Mile in LA

[mighty shell]

i'm excited for the d line i wanna get the shirt

[sudden bloom]

I'm waiting for extention that ends in 405

[rose rune]

I wanna collect the D line tcg

battle metro

[sudden bloom]

One Piece Cafe in LA has a Chopper event but it's already over

[grand flower]

The way this fandom went from yammering about Reversi trivia and fun facts when we first learned imus had Domi Reversi

To not even considering how the game works when we think they found a solution

Remarkable

[royal orchid]

ahhh damn I just recognized what the Reversi game is

I know it as Othello

[grand flower]

Oh yeah I forgot that’s another name for it

[unique lagoon]

oh this?

[grand flower]

Yeah

Oda even directly shows us the game too lol

[unique lagoon]

we still debating if its literal or not

[grand flower]

I’m sure the power will continue to draw inspiration from the game

[unique lagoon]

does imu got a board game in that room just playing itself

[royal orchid]

it could be literal and Imu's just legs crossed playing it via bluetooth on the flower room

[grand flower]

So I’m expecting em to be cursed again

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/catur-kaget-caturkaget-chess-chess-shock-gif-20873533

[grand flower]

It’d be interesting if the medium for Reversi is a board game Imu is controlling remotely

[unique lagoon]

almost reminds me of this

[grand flower]

It’d be a similar but distinct feel to luffys fruit

You could probably see it as an extension of the idea around Sugars too

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

[grand flower]

These game-like fruits

[unique lagoon]

cant be that op no?
imu has multiple tools he can move change around and it just change in real time

[grand flower]

Oda ain’t even really being subtle about it

[buoyant comet]

It's eerie how odas managed to create subtle differences that distinguish shamrock from shanks excluding the scar.

[grand flower]

What do you see? The hair?

I’m guessing Nidhogg and Yami were the two fruits rocks wanted

[unique lagoon]

what you guys think about shamrock is also a child of destiny

whatever that means

[grand flower]

Probably

I like to think it’s Buggy tho

Buggy’s family also being Davy from me valley who Kuma sent away and “child of destiny” Gaban is referring to is csuse Roger found two kids who both lost their homes that day

A red-hair baby and a Davy

On two separate occasions

[cosmic hamlet]

Lets powerscale 👀

[hazy turret]

boa wins

[teal galleon]

Yamato low diff

Yamato is yc1 level, Hancock warlord level

[hazy turret]

what does warlord level mean

[teal galleon]

Yc1 > yc3 > warlord > tobiropo

Cracker > doffy
Jack > crocodile
Yassop > jinbe

[rose rune]

it's around pirate captain level

[grand flower]

Sounds like Haki user level

[rose rune]

the kuja haki

[cosmic hamlet]

So mihawk is weaker than yc3?

[rose rune]

yes

but stronger than tobiropo

[hazy turret]

what about mihawk

[cosmic hamlet]

👀

I'm more interested in how yamato will negate boa df powers

[grand flower]

I feel like Yamato would react like Luffy for some reason

[hazy turret]

no

[grand flower]

Oh my bad

[hazy turret]

all good

[teal galleon]

Yes

[cosmic hamlet]

Did boa ever used her powers on luffy? 🤔

[cosmic hamlet]

😂

[vital heart]

@hazy turret ru caught up yet?

if not explain

[hazy turret]

yessir

[vital heart]

if so, whats been your favorite moment of late

ok

[teal galleon]

Why are you laughing? What did Mihawk show you that puts him above the yc3 level?

[unique lagoon]

i can think of a couple of things

implied information that he can spar with shanks
and also the final barrier for zoro to get his goal

[grand flower]

Ya

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't know

[cosmic hamlet]

What did yasopp show to put him above jinbe?

[cosmic hamlet]

Wait did she? She tried to stone luffy?

[teal galleon]

He is Shanks' third commander.

[cosmic hamlet]

Well mihawk is wss who is a rival to shanks

If you try to use it on one instance then you have to use the logic on rest aswell

You cannot be picky 👀

[teal galleon]

How did he get his title?

[cosmic hamlet]

Ask oda

[grand flower]

Fans won’t wanna talk about this but Shanks is the ultimate Hype Man.

His intelligence is just to make us go “imagine how dangerous Blackbeard must be”

His strength is just to make us go “imagine how crazy Mihawk must be”

His coolness is just to make us go “imagine how cool Luffy will be”

@ashen perch @digital spear @hot cairn @ocean totem @hazy turret

[unique lagoon]

not to mention he also has a black blade
seams like oda made that a very big deal

[cosmic hamlet]

Who is stronger

Shanks' rival or shanks third commander? 🤨

[unique lagoon]

only ryuma and mihawk having black blades in the verse
its insane how rare it is

[teal galleon]

They were rivals 12 years ago.

[teal galleon]

Greenbull too

And there is no evidence to suggest that it was Mihawk who turned it black.

[unique lagoon]

yes GB has one
and its hilarious how fans took that

[cosmic hamlet]

Sure sure

[unique lagoon]

funniest shit when it first came out

[cosmic hamlet]

Wait he has black blade?

[unique lagoon]

this asshole of an admiral got a black blade

[teal galleon]

yes

[unique lagoon]

you dint see the whole debate about it?

[cosmic hamlet]

No?

[teal galleon]

Look

Black blade

[cosmic hamlet]

Wait how is racist having a black blade makes sense? 🤨

[grand flower]

Dawg

[unique lagoon]

its a black blade cuz it looks like one
then people said its just a wood blade
then the anime came out it looks like silver
but those colored one looks black

very funny

[grand flower]

He is the son of a samurai

[unique lagoon]

no one knows

[cosmic hamlet]

So we don't know if its black blade or not?

[grand flower]

Nope lol

[unique lagoon]

yeah but it really looks like one

[grand flower]

Yup

[unique lagoon]

maybe oda dint decide yet so its all that

[cosmic hamlet]

Why you guys gaslighting me into thinking he has it 😶

[sturdy steeple]

Well

[high wolf]

This would be a CRAZY GB upscale lol

[sturdy steeple]

If he has it then I'm down for it because I want more than one person to have it.

[unique lagoon]

the sword nerds was so mad about
IF its a black blade and GB dint use a scabbard was straight up blasphemy

[grand flower]

I’m telling Yall

[sturdy steeple]

But some folks won't like it because Mihawk is the ultimate uhhh goal for Zoro.

[grand flower]

Aramaki’s parents are from Wano

[sturdy steeple]

Yano*

[grand flower]

That’s why he could make a black blade

[grand flower]

That’s Onigashima

Remember Marco said it had an older name

[sturdy steeple]

Yano's inclusion in the story might be the funniest thing Oda has done in a decade

[grand flower]

Yano until Kaido took over

[unique lagoon]

i would pref if its a cursed black blade
GB found it somehow
but cant really use it properly cuz he dont have the proper skill to be a swordman

[grand flower]

He renamed it Onigashima

[grand flower]

Oh nah gang

[sturdy steeple]

But why would he be carrying one then lol

[grand flower]

Sauce

[low blaze]

Impossible. The rules say that once you pick up a sword, you become a swordsman

[sturdy steeple]

It would only drag him down if that was the case. I think the sauce for GB should come from the fact that he's that strong enough to tame it.

[unique lagoon]

lol

i think GBs black blade not having a scabbard is a good hint

meanwhile fujitora out here having one of the rare 12 swords

very interesting which oda wont expand uppon only in SBS

[sturdy steeple]

That's far from my personal ideas but if Zoro were to fight GB then I'd definitely like him having a black blade. Idk what's the consensus in community is but I do think Zoro should make a black blade BEFORE he goes on to fight Mihawk.

[grand flower]

I agree

[high wolf]

Yeah

[unique lagoon]

nah i dont think zoro will fight GB just because he has a black blade

[grand flower]

That’s when he’ll decide he’s ready

Ey I’ll go so far as to say

[unique lagoon]

it would be cool but you know

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah, exactly

[grand flower]

Zoro will forge his black blades here in Elbaph

It’ll be his mastery of Hao

[sturdy steeple]

It's possible

[unique lagoon]

story wise it makes sense if GB goes after Crossguild

[low blaze]

I can also see him turn it black during the fight

[sturdy steeple]

This arc seems to be an arc for major powerups

[unique lagoon]

maybe bring some seraphims

[grand flower]

Elbaph backwards is phable let em complete some fables here

[sturdy steeple]

But as Shuron said that would be an indicator that he's ready.

[grand flower]

Haki, black blades, DF mastery

I’m all for it

[grand flower]

Like, something has to be it atp

I feel like black blade is perfect

[sturdy steeple]

I mean, it's just an idea

[unique lagoon]

maybe he face shanks crew again who knows

[prisma yacht]

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[sturdy steeple]

There aren't many strong opponents left for Zoro outside of admirals and Gorosei before Mihawk.

[unique lagoon]

yeah i agree it would be cool

[prisma yacht]

They are so cool together

[grand flower]

I still think Aramaki was putting up a front to war Wano about how the outside world is, and Shanks’ intervention blew his cover

[sturdy steeple]

Super Cola is honestly SICK

[unique lagoon]

we havent really seen any of the TOp 4 SH fighting an admiral
like a real duel

[grand flower]

Cant believe I forgot it

That was my favorite part of the chapter

Franky acting different off that sprite

[sturdy steeple]

Like VP just threw a can of cherry coke at Franky

[unique lagoon]

oh sorry im not counting luffy there

[grand flower]

He blew that MMAs head smooth off

[sturdy steeple]

And is like "yeah dude that shit is fire, try it out"

[grand flower]

“You never tried different flavors?”

[unique lagoon]

remember the alternate reality of franky?

[grand flower]

Frankys reaction to Lilith had me rolling

[sturdy steeple]

Bro was flabbergasted.
"THERE ARE OTHER FLAVORS???"

[unique lagoon]

when hes older

oda drew

[grand flower]

He turned into a boat right

[unique lagoon]

a battleship

[prisma yacht]

Spicy cola

[unique lagoon]

being powered by this new energy

it WILL happen

surely

[grand flower]

I think I’ll convert the Sunny

[sturdy steeple]

Super Cola opens an entire realm of new possibilities

And it makes a lot of sense because it's something VP invented for Franky

[unique lagoon]

i just want the sunny and franky getting an upgrade to their arsenal
the final war about to start
sunny need some better firepower

[grand flower]

Y’all can Yall imagine if Franky dies and becomes the Sunny’s Klaubertemann but like, a Vegapunk AI synced with sunny as a robot

I couldn’t contain my laughter actually typing that mess out

[sturdy steeple]

LOL

[sturdy steeple]

I'm not losing any hope that the wings will take on the admirals.

[unique lagoon]

like bottom right oda showed that version already but way older

[muted marsh]

Luffy be taking after Garp fr

[graceful grove]

if OP was written by anyone else then yes

[hazy turret]

i dont care for shanks

[ornate tartan]

❤️

[digital spear]

Luffy glazing Shanks so hard it makes Zoro and Sanji agree with each other

[distant vine]

Luffy punching at Loki for daring to insult Shanks is the best thing he's done this arc

People were so mad when he did that

[soft tangle]

How is it good

[pine ridge]

because it's funny and fitting

[cobalt kelp]

!shanks2

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1212095298609094727/1385389375621435564/1385388957809905674remix-1750372965141.png?ex=6855e3e6&is=68549266&hm=cdd84ef0f567684daeb2c140dd63c2ee7c8f17dcabc17dec3e03b9a53a64140f&

[sturdy steeple]

Because Luffy still remains that childish spirit of his and it’s fitting.

[distant vine]

Shanks haters should be beat up

[high wolf]

Every single take of his is just bait lol

[soft tangle]

But he showed he could control himself in Wano with ace

[wet condor]

Because Luffy has his people's back and never forgets a debt

Same with Rocks and Ace

But Shanks is gonna most likely die for being a sap

Like Harald

[sturdy steeple]

Also, Luffy was ready to beat down kids this arc

[soft tangle]

What debt is being paid by punching someone talking bad about another pirate

[wet condor]

Why do people ask disingenuous questions like this?

Like you know what I'm talking about lol

[sturdy steeple]

Respect…?

[wet condor]

The fact Shanks risked his arm to save Luffy's life

If you don't care, then you don't care lol

But then acting like you don't understand what I'm talking about. Like why?

Just say "I don't care"

[sturdy steeple]

He’s practically a dad figure to him. I don’t know what’s not clicking.

[wet condor]

And I imagine some other stuff Shanks did for Windmill village or whatever while it was his base of operations

[cosmic hamlet]

I know, I'm just bored so i went along with it

[wet condor]

Like keeping other pirates out and maybe sharing whatever booty he got

[soft tangle]

Cause he witnessed Ace die by his father figure being insulted?

[cosmic hamlet]

Do you have any baits?

[high wolf]

Nah

[sturdy steeple]

So he should just let others do what they want because at one point in his life he wasn’t strong enough to defend himself?

[soft tangle]

Defending Shanks as extension to himself?

[sturdy steeple]

Luffy’s never been the type of a guy to keep calm when his family or friends are insulted despite all the risks. No reason for that to be changed now.

[cosmic hamlet]

🤨

[high wolf]

Seriously

I can't think of any of my takes that were bait

[soft tangle]

Again, he can control himself with Ace now. We’re pushing 1.2k chapters, with a time skip, and we’re gonna be fine with him having the same trait as his brother, who died for it now? He quite literally acts on instinct to get physical with Shanks name.

[alpine trench]

he got over ace's death, and it wasnt a situation where ace was disrespected or maligned either, in which case i'm sure luffy would act in the same way

he went in to get the mera mera because ace's legacy would be maligned by the game being played over his fruit

i'm not sure luffy will even hold back a little like sabo did when burgess insulted ace

[sturdy steeple]

You can believe it’s a flaw but why does it matter? It’s his relatable trait. And do you think Luffy fears death? Why do you bring this up all the time? His entire goal of becoming stronger correlates with the desire to defend his loved ones.

[ornate tartan]

👀

[high wolf]

???

[sturdy steeple]

Honestly, not the first time the OP community gets mad about characters acting out when their loved ones are concerned. We do love some AI machines, aye?

[grand flower]

Who insulted Ace?

[ornate tartan]

95% accurate
you wanna know the one u had that was bait

Sanji beating Katakuri😂😂

[distant vine]

Well Zoro slams Katakuri

[high wolf]

Nah

[distant vine]

So Sanji's probably fine

[high wolf]

Sanji does beat katakuri

[ornate tartan]

based on what

[grand flower]

Easy

[ornate tartan]

please don’t say because he’s equal to zoro

[high wolf]

Yup

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji is more of a counter pick to Kat than Zoro.

[high wolf]

Better feats honestly

[grand flower]

Luffy beat Katakuri

Luffy got one shot by base Kaido

[high wolf]

I don't believe that YET

[ornate tartan]

i’ll give u current sanji

[grand flower]

Katakuri got fucked

[ornate tartan]

but any sanji before elbaph isn’t beating him

[grand flower]

Wano sanji is washing Katakuri

[unique lagoon]

is sanji way faster than katakuri now

[grand flower]

Egghead Sanji

[distant vine]

Hate this passive buff stuff people do when powerscaling lol

[grand flower]

Whatever you call him

[high wolf]

Yeah

[unique lagoon]

is his speed good enough to bypass future sight

[sturdy steeple]

Sanji’s speed is his main weapon so lol

[high wolf]

Yeah lol

At least he bypasses katakuri's FS

[sturdy steeple]

His speed makes him invisible for a long period of time so it’s not hard to imagine that at all.

[stone terrace]

Luffy watched as nami got laughed out of a building and let zoro get shit flung out of him because of a lesson he learned from shanks but god forbid someone call shanks a chicken and he goes loco

What a guy

[unique lagoon]

his body is stupid durable now also
maybe equal to seraphim

[grand flower]

Base Kaido one shotting and blitzing Luffy absolutely fucks katakuris physicals in powerscaling

[cursive summit]

Also his durability

Sanji has even stronger durability than king

[high wolf]

Yeah

[sturdy steeple]

That’s definitely not true.

[cursive summit]

It is true

[stone terrace]

Raise your cortisol

[ornate tartan]

bro comparing germa genes to a lunarian durability

[distant vine]

He just wanted to try the Shanks method for the one time

[high wolf]

Sanji has better durability than Katakuri

But NOT king

[cosmic hamlet]

All your takes are baits bro 😭

[cursive summit]

Bro lunarians ain't shit

[sturdy steeple]

No, we’ve seen Sanji getting damaged in his Germa mode meanwhile never with King in his flames on mode.

[unique lagoon]

i think hes saying sanji got both speed and durability
while lunarian needs to turn off the flame

[cursive summit]

Zoro literally sliced a seraphim what r u on

[high wolf]

You think that?

[grand flower]

Does it not make sense that Luffy attacked because shanks’ lesson was it isn’t always worth fighting when you’re insulted, but you can when they insult your friends

[ornate tartan]

u literally can’t damage a flame on lunarian

[grand flower]

Not to mention Loki is far from not worth fighting

[cursive summit]

Why do u think so?

[sturdy steeple]

Lunarians are the most durable race to ever exist that we know of so far.

[unique lagoon]

best of both worlds i guess if that counts for something

[grand flower]

Luffy can tell he’s the real deal

[cursive summit]

Zoro?

[sturdy steeple]

I’m sorry but you literally cannot DAMAGE them.

[cursive summit]

Zoro.

[ornate tartan]

flames were off

[cosmic hamlet]

You don't?

[cursive summit]

Flames were on

[sturdy steeple]

Zoro never damaged a lunarian with his flames on.

[grand flower]

Zoro never cut king in defense mode

[sturdy steeple]

Nor did Luffy or anyone else at that matter.

[grand flower]

He says theyre invincible in egghead

[cursive summit]

At the very end, Zoro did.

[high wolf]

Funnily enough

Marco damages flames on king

And it is implied zoro can too

[unique lagoon]

how close are we confirming sanji flames is based on lunarian flame buff

[sturdy steeple]

Zoro knows ball

[cursive summit]

Zoro slashed king flame mode at the very end

[sturdy steeple]

Nope, he did not have his flames on.

[grand flower]

He wasn’t in defensive mode

[high wolf]

That wasn't flames on king

[ornate tartan]

imagine a lunarian eating Jozu fruit

that nga would be indestructible😂

[unique lagoon]

yeah zoro cut him with flames off

its a whole thing zoro figuring it out

[cursive summit]

Wait rlly?

[high wolf]

Yeah

[unique lagoon]

king went for the kick
dint really work well for him

[high wolf]

He's fast

Yet

Can't dodge Zoro's attacks

[cursive summit]

Was that not a flame on king's back?

[high wolf]

Zoro has one of the best blitzing attacks

[unique lagoon]

thats his sword flame iirc

[sturdy steeple]

It’s a flame coming from his sword

[grand flower]

No, it’s on his sword

[unique lagoon]

cuz he used da lava attack thingy

[high wolf]

Nah

That's from his attack

[cursive summit]

Bro I can't see shit

[unique lagoon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/king-one-piece-1062

[sturdy steeple]

I do dislike that gimmick with them being invincible tho

Definitely needs more explanation

[grand flower]

Bro has glaucoma

[wet condor]

Part of the reason he let himself get beat up in that bar fight is because he didn't want to recant on the promise to Nami that they weren't going to fight anyone in that town. And he was only being personally insulted. If someone was disrespecting one of Shanks crewmembers, he'd be whooping their ass. And we know Luffy would give a beating to any person who'd talk bad about his crew lol

[unique lagoon]

almost like its a cheap way to make it hard for MCs

cuz they so powerful now

[grand flower]

Exactly

And Loki is def worth fighting

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-usernameruhit-one-piece-oda-gif-15086895646318196865

[wet condor]

People really that bothered about Luffy taking up for a man that saved his life?

[grand flower]

I remember saying this before but there’s like a fishhook where a certain level of esteem can make an insult matter more

[wet condor]

lol

[sturdy steeple]

I’m fine with cheap tricks if a character finds a rational way of beating it. Instead we have a very questionable solution.

[unique lagoon]

lunarians are durable af
seraphims are durable af
HKs can regenerate

[grand flower]

Mike Tyson calling me a bitch is something I’d probably take more seriously than a random stranger in the street

[high wolf]

Lol

[grand flower]

Ya

[cursive summit]

Alright yeah it was flames off

[grand flower]

Smoker that glaucoma away?

[cursive summit]

So kaido > big mom> king > Sanji in durab

[sturdy steeple]

Like part of why Seraphim in Egghead could not be defeated was that they never took their flames off

lol

[grand flower]

Naw

Kings is superior to kaidos when his flames are on

[cursive summit]

wdym naw

[cursive summit]

Nah this is too far

[grand flower]

Lunarians just can’t be hurt in that mode

[sturdy steeple]

King is legitimately superior to Kaido in his flames on, yes

[ornate tartan]

it’s hax

[unique lagoon]

dont worry oda added some failsafe
the remote control and sea prism

[grand flower]

Zoros tatsumaki cut Kaido but couldnt cut king

[high wolf]

Yeah

[unique lagoon]

surely the seraphims can turn off the flames right? or is that a perma thing

[cursive summit]

You're telling me lunarians can't be hurt from bajrang gun?

Please get serious

[ornate tartan]

how durable do yall consider luffy, top 10?

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah, bubble guns and stuff lol

[grand flower]

Yeah they can

[unique lagoon]

can they?

[cursive summit]

You turn off your flame to be faster

[sturdy steeple]

They can

[grand flower]

They’re invincible

[sturdy steeple]

They just choose not to

[grand flower]

They do have a weakness tho

[ornate tartan]

his rubber body kinda tanks a lot of stuff other people would straight up die from

[sturdy steeple]

Because they would be at disadvantage

[grand flower]

Lasers can hurt them

[cursive summit]

Nah bro, kaido has the best durability feat

[sturdy steeple]

And this is why it’s really funny

[unique lagoon]

well yeah im saying did VP made it so they cant turn off the flames = forever durable

[sturdy steeple]

Eh, that’s just something they have not tested

[grand flower]

Pythagoras told S-Shark to dodge the radical beam

[sturdy steeple]

It might be so that they would be fine.

[ornate tartan]

i can’t see 98% of the characters in the series taking the amount of damage luffy does and still getting up

[grand flower]

Idk they have the durability otherwise

[celest mauve]

casually scrolling through YT and suddenly

[unique lagoon]

so imu will force loki to awaken nidhogg

[grand flower]

22 mins

[sturdy steeple]

They’re basically invincible so I’m not surprised

[stone terrace]

He might be #1 rn

The limiting factor with him is stamina

[unique lagoon]

wait ive seen people talk about loki getting awakening here

[sturdy steeple]

Not on the level of Seraphim and Lunarians

[unique lagoon]

no one cared for it tho lol

[sturdy steeple]

No, fuck that

[celest mauve]

are you including kaido and other characters who are (presumed) dead?

[sturdy steeple]

Warcury

[ornate tartan]

anyone u would like yeah

[sturdy steeple]

Warcury made Luffy scream in pain because he was that durable lol

[unique lagoon]

warcury was using CoC defense?

[sturdy steeple]

No, he was just that hard

[grand flower]

The Seraphim, Momo, King and Jozu oughta be higher than him but that’s it if BM and Kaido are dead

Oh and Mercury, yeah

[unique lagoon]

then emets punch was just THAT powerful

[sturdy steeple]

It was yeah

[celest mauve]

he's below warcury, kaido, big mom, flames-on king and the seraphim for certain, barely edging top 10 probably

[grand flower]

Based on Brogy’s mighty arm ya know

[unique lagoon]

what is this thing made from man

[sturdy steeple]

Luffy does have stronger moves in his arsenal but Kaido never made him scream in pain due to his durability.

Only when they clashed.

[unique lagoon]

thats just pure metal force lol

[digital spear]

Awakening?

[sturdy steeple]

Warcury is on another level, clearly

[unique lagoon]

with enough force no haki can stop it

[high wolf]

Maybe not top 10

[sturdy steeple]

Dude

Actually insane

[stone terrace]

His hand being on literal fire suggest more than just durability to me

[unique lagoon]

i like how hes just staring at luffy after that

[sturdy steeple]

That was his move though

[high wolf]

LOL

[sturdy steeple]

He was using red roc or what was it

[stone terrace]

Oh nvm theb

[high wolf]

Yeah

[unique lagoon]

do NOT ask if luffy was using CoC attacks

[sturdy steeple]

Welp, he was definitely using ACoA here I feel

That’s his staple ACoA move after Wano I guess

And even then it made him flinch

[unique lagoon]

eitherway we know now regular COC attacks aint enough vs them

with their regen and all

[stone terrace]

When luffy uses g3 with acoc he attaches roc as a prefix

If the kaido fight is anything to go by

[violet venture]

hey wassup guys

[unique lagoon]

saul and robin POV inside the library

[muted marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-pufferfish-pufferfish-cat-fish-catfish-gif-9997139051265883971

[soft tangle]

No one, but I’m assuming that if he’s capable of grief, he would control his spontaneous reactions by now, especially not going to gear 4 instantly (of course this was probably done to show how strong Loki was seen).

[soft tangle]

Probably not since he’s a blackbeard crew member

[soft tangle]

Defending his loved ones with physical violence, like a punch, will change how someone thinks is so dumb though? Unless, he’s not even trying to change their opinion and just show how much they mean it him?

[wet condor]

It's the second one. He isn't as much concerned with changing their mind and instead ensuring someone doesn't say anything false about Shanks, especially if it's a direct defamation of character

[teal galleon]

Wanji > Pengoku

[stone terrace]

Let me get back to you on that one

[unique lagoon]

morj job is to make theories in this discord viral

[buoyant comet]

I'm gonna vote perona tmrw

[stray prism]

Perona is great

[distant vine]

Hmm

Carrot today Perona tomorrow

[stone terrace]

Idk where perona was before but shes getting a drop

[distant vine]

I wanna say 20s or 30s

[ashen perch]

The Japanese mail vote is worth 10 votes, so I think Perona should be safe. They love her

[stone terrace]

This is woke nonsense

[distant vine]

Perona was 25

Then 23 in the poll before that

Then 21

[ashen perch]

Nah

[distant vine]

So she's been dropping off but not at a huge rate

[urban lodge]

So she'll be 27 now

[distant vine]

She's the kind of character where she's popular without needing new moments Id say

[ashen perch]

Its actually great, I breathed a sigh of relief when I discovered that the other day

Means the top 10 is safe from "Xebec"

Japan doesn't fw him like that

[stone terrace]

My estimation of japan as a country has just fuckin plummeted

https://tenor.com/view/phil-leotardo-the-sopranos-johnny-sack-gif-1391203655304300954

[hazy turret]

WHAT

THATS NOT FAIR

[ashen perch]

Well it is how it is

They're literally the only ones who'll maintain a semblance of sanity in the poll, so its good actually

[hazy turret]

Here we go

[ashen perch]

Its true

[hazy turret]

putting japanese fans on a pedestal

[grand flower]

Being able to control his grief enough to rell Tama Ace died doesnt mean Luffy will never have emotional reactions again, especially when under different contexts

[ashen perch]

Its not putting them on a pedestal, I just have a really really low opinion of any other fan in the world, especially the Americans

[hazy turret]

if you leave it to just the japanese, they would have gotten carrot to the top 10 naturally

[urban lodge]

The good thing is no one actually likes Xebec that much to vote for him 3 months straight

[hazy turret]

that is literally putting them above everyone else

thus A PEDESTAL

[ashen perch]

The concept of Mihawk in the top 10, Xebec... Akainu... Its terrifying

[grand flower]

Sounds more like non-Japanese fans have lowered Arsals opinion of them

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[wet condor]

We need an American only poll

[grand flower]

vs his opinion on the Japanese rising

[wet condor]

It's the only one that matters

Japanese votes counting more is funny tho

I definitely did not expect that

[grand flower]

Arsal is right because I also hate western OP fans

[hazy turret]

japanese fans came up with the cheese/oil theories for luffy's devil fruit

[steel stirrup]

Fr?

[wet condor]

Apparently

[stone terrace]

Its 3 months of voting?

[hazy turret]

where's the poll from the japanese fans that redon or someone posts every year

[grand flower]

That’s funny at least theyre not bitching about ongoing plot points

[urban lodge]

Yeah until june

[stone terrace]

Jesus

[ashen perch]

Yeah, another thing is that mail doesn't have the concept of botting or psychotic "vote spamming". Its the most fair way to calculate popularity.

[hazy turret]

do you consistently interact with the japanese side of the fandom to confidently say that

[wet condor]

I don't really care about their votes counting more. This goes into my bigger opinion about how anime and manga are Japanese media, and how people wanting mangaka and the Japanese to tune their cultural expressions to non-Japanese audiences is presumptuous

[grand flower]

Ignorance is bliss

[hazy turret]

idk how to say this without bringing up real examples but mail in voter fraud is real

[grand flower]

YEAH HERE WE GO

[steel stirrup]

Might wanna double check this one big dawg

They definitely complaining

[grand flower]

I may have made a mistake

[stone terrace]

https://a.storyblok.com/f/178900/1100x1290/c29667d69e/5c14c4e730eb9a446935fd657a3fe0c81620177796_main.jpg/m/filters:quality(95)format(webp)

[hazy turret]

the issue isnt western vs japanese fans

[wet condor]

I've looked at Japanese Twitter a few times. They do have these arguments lol

[ashen perch]

The worst the Japanese fan would do is empty his pockets to send in as much mail as he possibly can, but even that only ever leads to like, a hundred additional votes per person

[hazy turret]

the problem is one piece fans

[stone terrace]

Japan did cook north america icl

[hazy turret]

the problem is anime fans

[ashen perch]

Yes

[wet condor]

Yeah they did lol

[stone terrace]

Carrot 6 yamato 8 what were we doing fam

[grand flower]

TRUE

[wet condor]

That's an accurate poll

[hazy turret]

japan put nami over robin, maybe i was wrong

[steel stirrup]

Crazy Zoro was number 1 in Africa of all places

[ashen perch]

Japanese fans have remained fairly consistent in their opinions, I don't really think highly of them but I do appreciate the consistency

[proud pivot]

LETS FUCKING GO OCEANIA

[ashen perch]

Meanwhile the western have been on a downward spiral

[proud pivot]

the og goonerville

[rich hornet]

Carrot bots never turned off I see

[steel stirrup]

Top 4 being all women is crazy

Whole region is down bad

[grand flower]

What’s oceania

[ashen perch]

#5 Zoro 😭

[hazy turret]

you dont even speak japanese what are you even on

[steel stirrup]

Australia

Mostly

[proud pivot]

they got their rankings on point

[hazy turret]

japan's the only region to not have a female character in the top 5

[ashen perch]

Nihongo wa wakarimasu

[steel stirrup]

Nami to Robin to Yamato to Carrot is a crazy deterioration

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-javontay-baynes-idle-tap-finger-im-waiting-gif-16497040

[ashen perch]

Also there's a thing, Google Translate

[wet condor]

Yeah, I've done that

I mean it's just more or less the same shit

[proud pivot]

reminded me of ts

[grand flower]

Dattebayo

[steel stirrup]

Misogyny runs deeper than the roots of the Cherry Blossom tree

[hazy turret]

its international women's day, its our duty to point out unimportant things like this

[ashen perch]

I have kept track of their takes for 10 years, I'm just saying that I appreciate the consistency atleast

[steel stirrup]

10 years

[proud pivot]

wdym its just #furryrepresentation

[rich hornet]

Biggest question is what about x Drake speaks to the middle eastern populace

[grand flower]

This is starting to sound threatening to the people of Japan

[ashen perch]

Yeah, thats older than atleast 60% of the fanbase

[grand flower]

He’s Turkish

[hazy turret]

you arent as entrenched in that side of the fandom as you are with the english speaking fandom

[wet condor]

Arsal... you have not been keeping recurring tabs on Japanese opinions on OP for the last 10 years

C'mon

[steel stirrup]

Went from above average to peak back to above average and then finished on the 15 year old anthropomorphic rabbit

[hazy turret]

arsal care to comment on the french one piece fans

[grand flower]

He’s been keep close tabs on the Japanese

[wet condor]

At the rate which Rokaya is talking about

[ashen perch]

Well yeah I didn't say I am entrenched like that, but you don't even have to be entrenched here to know how bad the OP fanbase is lol

[steel stirrup]

10 years sound good but it also sounds like CAP

[ashen perch]

Not good, I knew a french OP theorist though, he was good

[hazy turret]

the japanese fans have sandman and greg

[grand flower]

They make my tummy hurt so bad

[ashen perch]

Greg is white

[grand flower]

Theyre just gay and cringe,respectively

[hazy turret]

he lives in japan

[grand flower]

Nothing wrong with those

[steel stirrup]

Gregory is white? Who knew?

[stone terrace]

Greg is unironically the kimono meme

[ashen perch]

He's literally the white guy in kimono

Yeah lmao

[hazy turret]

he is part of the japanese fandom

[grand flower]

Dawg Lolol

[steel stirrup]

What a revelation

[ashen perch]

Greg is a part of the American fanbase, he just moved to Japan a while back

[hazy turret]

would you count worstgen and pew as part of the western fanbase

[proud pivot]

i am part of the japanese fandom ngl #exchangesem

[steel stirrup]

I aint where you from its where you at

[hazy turret]

does he interact with the american one piece fans

[steel stirrup]

Wyd today

[ashen perch]

Pew is part of the West Asian fanbase, Worstgen is German

[hazy turret]

worstgen aint arab?

[ashen perch]

no

[ashen perch]

Mostly yeah

[wraith mantle]

Greg is a one piecer???

[hazy turret]

why's he so obnoxious like one then...

[proud pivot]

studied the whole day today, probably js gonna sstay inside and watch something

[ashen perch]

Well he's also obnoxious like a German man

[grand flower]

Idk if I’d say that

[wraith mantle]

Arabs are obnoxious? 🤔

[steel stirrup]

Do they have any channels is English at all

[ashen perch]

I'd consider Worstgen part of the western fanbase yeah, forgot to mention it

[buoyant comet]

Worst Gen is Turkish he lives in Germany tho

[hazy turret]

just a joke, just a little jab

[grand flower]

Which one am I?

[ashen perch]

You're Japanese

[grand flower]

Oh cool

Nihao

[ashen perch]

No ofc you're American what is this question 😭

[proud pivot]

idrk, they have international channels in english mostly

[steel stirrup]

Isn't that Chinese for hello

[grand flower]

FUCK

[ashen perch]

Not all are bad though

#NotAllAmericansButMost

[urban lodge]

Just 99% of them

[steel stirrup]

Do they have gameshows and shit

[hazy turret]

so what is the problem, americans or westerners

[grand flower]

Not all Americans but somehow usually an American

[grand flower]

Yes

[steel stirrup]

Nah, all.

Every last one of us

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/america-murica-happy-4th-happy-fourth-fourth-of-july-gif-11162462385814111283

[buoyant comet]

Direction-ism will not be tolerated

[wraith mantle]

What’s the best fandom ethnicity then

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/takeshis-castle-jumping-on-stones-gif-20609686

[ashen perch]

All of them but Americans especially

[steel stirrup]

MXC lmaooo or Takashis Castle whatever you prefer

[buoyant comet]

Definitely the Chinese

[steel stirrup]

Yea I seen this

[grand flower]

Women

[hazy turret]

japan according ArsalWeeb

[proud pivot]

takeshi castle so goated man

[urban lodge]

OP fan ethnicity tier list

[steel stirrup]

All yall some dumbasses tbh

[wraith mantle]

I doubt it tbf

[ashen perch]

Okay I'm not doing that lmao

[grand flower]

Sounds like a great idea

[hazy turret]

oh now you wanna stop huh

[hot cairn]

I disagree

[ashen perch]

They are just relatively better, I don't even like em like that

[grand flower]

Oh shit

[stray prism]

Lmaoo

[ornate tartan]

scaling fanbase ethnicities😂

[wraith mantle]

Yeah but there must be a fandom that’s the least dumbass

[ashen perch]

The JP OP fans that are actually well, fans... are pretty good but in general the JP weeb is horrible lmao

[steel stirrup]

As I said before idc what color your skin is im assuming that since you like OP, you're a dummy

[wraith mantle]

This applies to every fandom

[grand flower]

Wano fans

That’s a really good litmus test

[proud pivot]

so true bestie

[remote maple]

thing western
thing japan

[wraith mantle]

I thought skypiea was the litmus test

[ashen perch]

Nah not at all

[steel stirrup]

We all cooked tbh

[grand flower]

The more bad they have to say about Wano, the more worms in their brain

[proud pivot]

was wano bathscene more important than morias backstory

[steel stirrup]

Other than the length idk why Wano is so hated

[ashen perch]

Moria's backstory will be addressed when he returns as a member of Cross Guild, its fine

[grand flower]

Yes

I enjoyed the abs

[alpine trench]

it was buildup to sanji rejecting his family's influence by destroying his suit

[grand flower]

Shonen fans can’t handle subtlety too well

[stone terrace]

Dont think so

Seems like a rocky port type thing

[steel stirrup]

We've known this since the 90s

[alpine trench]

the scene itself doesnt exonerate sanji and it is brought back in the raid when he destroyed it

[grand flower]

There’s no solution

[hazy turret]

they meant the other one

at the end of the raid

[alpine trench]

did they

[ashen perch]

Well you're wrong thats fine but its clear that it will. His mysterious west blue connections are still very much a mystery. We've only heard of the broader details

[proud pivot]

yea

[steel stirrup]

Without uprooting the entire genre and starting from scratch, yea none that I can fathom

[grand flower]

Oda did this recently

I’m tryna remember what it was

[stone terrace]

Oda straight up was like its not important

[final trench]

Exactly

[ashen perch]

He said he washed ashore from a certain place in west blue in the SBS no?

[steel stirrup]

Said he washed ashore most definitely

Dont remember if it mentions West Blue tho

[ashen perch]

This type of thing js really just for the casual fan tbh, or the literal children that follow the series (the majority of the audience). He brought it back and made it the biggest highlight of an entire coverstory, its clearly not insignificant

[grand flower]

Yeah it’ll be addressed

[ashen perch]

He says this all the time, DF names? You don't have to remember. Names of Roger's crew members? You don't have to remember. Etc

[wraith mantle]

Oh god is Moria from god valley too

[grand flower]

He said that about Marcos powers

Back when doing SBS for Marineford

[ashen perch]

Yea I remember that

[grand flower]

Then explained them with more details in Wano after saying he may not

[urban lodge]

Moria being the best written character originating from god valley would be peak

[wraith mantle]

Shamrock would like a word

[ashen perch]

This is why there's so many refreshers in the story too, Oda writes the story for the casuals that he thinks won't remember anything and also don't have to remember anything

[grand flower]

We saw him imo

[ashen perch]

Also yea, there was that child who looked like Moria in God Valley...

[stone terrace]

Biggest highlight is crazy

[grand flower]

You mentioning children is a good point also

[stone terrace]

Maybe for us because it was a meme panel

[wraith mantle]

Where??

[stone terrace]

[grand flower]

Oda teases the children in his audience in the SBS

Much like shanks would tease Luffy in chapter 1

I’d take the “you don’t have to remember this” stuff with a slight grain of salt

[ashen perch]

I mean aside from a "where are they now" type of thing, It was literally the main thing that happened in the cover story

[grand flower]

I’d say Onigashimaga sinking ans Yamato forming a little gang too

[steel stirrup]

Wrong

Ulti coming back trumps all of that

[grand flower]

It’s def the most surprising and most discussion worthy tho

[ashen perch]

Oh yea, but they'd be slightly less significant in comparison

[grand flower]

It changed pretty much everything we knew about Moriah

A hero to Wano’s people with the name kozuki?

[ashen perch]

Oda treated that reveal like a big deal too, like it has chapters of buildup lol, in a coverstory!

[grand flower]

Nobody was expecting anything like that too

[steel stirrup]

Push me to the edge

All my friends are dead

[grand flower]

So glue

[ashen perch]

But yeah, it is indeed not aimed at us, so we don't have to take it seriously

[steel stirrup]

He kinda just shoved the information in our hands and said "hold this im busy"

[ashen perch]

Nah it was done gradually, we even spent a couple of weeks speculating

[small ember]

I’ve seen enough. One Piece: Film Purple will address it

[steel stirrup]

Only one i remember who speculated at all was Lemony

[ashen perch]

It actually had a real buildup, for a coverstory

[urban lodge]

There were so many breaks it took like 2 months for the reveal

[leaden rivet]

He will discuss it with Hancock when she joins also

[wraith mantle]

If it does have significance, it will be that Moria is a stone reader and will join cross guild as their designated stone reader

[small ember]

He was a hero and now he associates with people like Hogback and Absalom🥀

[hot cairn]

Hancock aint joining Cross Guild

Hancock aint joining anything that doesn’t have Luffy

[leaden rivet]

She is, I’ve decided as much

[wet condor]

I mean you won't have to remember it regardless, because if it's brought up, Oda will likely go into detail about it

[leaden rivet]

Fuck Luffy

[small ember]

Idc who joins let my GOAT croc shine

[hot cairn]

that’s exactly what she wants yes

[ornate tartan]

she’s not joining anyone, she’s just going to be an ally, she’s already a captain herself and the leader of a nation

[wet condor]

He'll introduce it like it's the first time it's ever been talked about, because technically it is

[leaden rivet]

Hancock and Luffy clearly aren’t going to end up together so Oda will have her go her own path

[leaden rivet]

Well she can’t be anymore

[wraith mantle]

Mizu luffy victim 💔 what a goat you chose

[leaden rivet]

So she’ll join the cross guild

[small ember]

I think Doffy has a higher chance of joining

[ashen perch]

The 7th former Warlord in Cross Guild is going to be Blackbeard, not Hancock

[leaden rivet]

You can never just be normal can you

[small ember]

Nah he’s benefiting from the Oda power creep and we all know it

[ornate tartan]

arsal what are u cooking😂

blackbeard?

[ionic palm]

ye join Cross Guild only to betray them when Luffy arrives, cmon bruv lmao

[grand flower]

That make sense to me!

[ashen perch]

It means they're going to ally with Blackbeard

[small ember]

Zombie Hanafuda

[ashen perch]

So it technically makes him the 7th

[leaden rivet]

That’s ok

[grand flower]

There was zero chance Hancock was ever gonna join cross guild

[leaden rivet]

Cross guild isn’t a real crew

[ornate tartan]

cross guild is just an organization, the buggy pirates still exist

[wraith mantle]

Jimbei will join cross guild since he’s a former warlord

[small ember]

Yeah they’re held together by mutual interest but we’ll see now, since Buggy wants the OP

[small ember]

That would be wild

[grand flower]

A pirate crew is just an organization that does piracy Yall lol

[leaden rivet]

And I very well doubt cross guild and Strawhats have a direct 1v1 confrontation because it would mean Luffy would have to fight Mihawk

[grand flower]

Cross guild is a pirate crew

[ashen perch]

I think Cross Guild won't have any "good" character, because I believe its clear that they're meant to be antagonists. I dismiss all the ideas about Kid, Law or Boa joining them for that reason

[wet condor]

Luffy losing to Mihawk though

It'd be funny

[wraith mantle]

Straw hat crew vs cross guild will be a Davy back fight

[ashen perch]

It won't be 1v1 but they will have a confrontation

[grand flower]

Kid could still be an antagonist tbh

[leaden rivet]

Maybe but I doubt it’ll be an all out fight

[ornate tartan]

mohji cabaji and richie

[grand flower]

Buggy challenges the other Yonko to a Davy back cause he can’t compete in a full blown fight

Buggy’s crew reveal themselves to be stupid good at Davy back fights

[ashen perch]

Its possible but Kid has other reasons to not join as well, like his hatred for Buggy and him having John's treasure

[grand flower]

I wonder if those are related to kid potentially being Johns father

[leaden rivet]

Cross guild is a good destination for Kid and Hancock

Both would be best

And plus cross guild is much weaker than the rest of the yonko

[hazy turret]

kid being what

[ashen perch]

If it was Buggy's actual crew then perhaps but its difficult to imagine the rest in a Davy Back

Also what Shuron

[proud pivot]

woahh

[hazy turret]

smh

[grand flower]

Yall know what i meant

[proud pivot]

cross guild is stronger than the shs

[grand flower]

Yeah that’s who I mean, theyre still there

[sturdy steeple]

The treasure that Luffy handed to Buggy does seem like a log pose type of thing. Perhaps it can only be activated with a magnetism fruit.

[hot cairn]

yep

[ashen perch]

No doubt it'll be fun but the concept of Crocodile, Mihawk, Moria, Doflamingo and Weevil in a Davy Back fight... Lmao

[stone terrace]

Warlords only

[ashen perch]

Ah gotcha

[pure scaffold]

Don't know about that, if we add the Grand Fleet in the mix, but could be nice seeing the Cross Guild recruiting more former warlords and prominent names of the Pirating World onto their ranks

[ornate tartan]

i think every single strawhat can beat every single cross guild member outside of mihawk and croc except the weakling trio

zoro and sanji probably beat croc too, idk how big croc power boost will be

[pure scaffold]

Btw sup Arisu

[ashen perch]

The only way it could work with the rest of the crew if they made it a tournament arc lmao

I had that idea once

[grand flower]

:0

[ashen perch]

Still could work

[ornate tartan]

who tf is that😹

[grand flower]

Rocks D Xane

[ruby cape]

Mihawk buff

[hot cairn]

Arsal is tweakin, BB aint allying with Cross Guild

[urban lodge]

The Xebec we needed

[hot cairn]

just wanted to say that

[ashen perch]

Basically, pitting each member of the Cross Guild in 1v1 battles against the Strawhats, ridiculously simple but hey, why not

[ashen perch]

not ready I'm afraid

[wet condor]

BB isn't joining, Kidd isn't joining, I don't think Hancock is joining

[wraith mantle]

How many chapters till Luffy and Imu confrontation

[wet condor]

Doflamingo whenever he breaks out of prison maybe

[leaden rivet]

Absolutely not

[ashen perch]

1180

[leaden rivet]

Cross guild only has Mihawk

Mihawk may or may not be stronger than Luffy but the rest of the strawhats destroy them

[urban lodge]

Well tbf Mihawk alone is probably stronger than most SHs combined

[leaden rivet]

Can Mihawk beat Luffy?

[urban lodge]

I would say yes

[ruby cape]

Defo

[leaden rivet]

What will Mihawk do when Luffy turns Yoru into a jump rope

[urban lodge]

More haki

[ruby cape]

ACoC resistance

[wraith mantle]

Areal we need a server bet

Will Loki get domi reversi’d??

[ornate tartan]

i’m not joking when I say Jinbe can dispatch any cross guild member not named Mihawk

[hot cairn]

these cowards don’t want to do server bets anymore for some reason

[urban lodge]

Croc is admiral level now

[ashen perch]

Oh I'll make sure to suggest that yea, was going to do it earlier but forgot smh

[ashen perch]

Nah its not that

[wraith mantle]

The Saturn incident did a number on them

[ashen perch]

We just haven't, there's no reason why.

[ornate tartan]

Jinbe is stronger then croc

[hot cairn]

[stone terrace]

We might as well call the big mom bet now

She aint coming

[proud pivot]

with the elbaf flashback upscales, mihawk beats luffy

but ngl

idc aboyt powerscaling anymore

[grand flower]

Arc ain’t over

[leaden rivet]

What does that even mean

Elbaf flashback upscale?

[grand flower]

Rocks was Mihawk upscale

[leaden rivet]

Think I’m 2 years behind on all the powerscaling stuff

[ashen perch]

Mihawk might lose to Luffy now but that won't be true when Imu unlocks his potential

[leaden rivet]

Ah let me guess Mihawk is Imu’s son

[grand flower]

Oh man

[ashen perch]

Its true

[proud pivot]

son

[hot cairn]

it’s time to let it go

[grand flower]

Precisely

[hot cairn]

but the staff is too BM pilled smh

[leaden rivet]

The big mom thing was never going to happen

[urban lodge]

Mihawk is guaranteed to be stronger than the admirals and look at how Luffy vs Kizaru turned out

[leaden rivet]

She was in wano so Oda like get rid of her

Why would he bring her back

[grand flower]

Arc ain’t over

[grand flower]

Why’d he do so much to remind us of her

[ashen perch]

Its literally just me and Red, we're the last ones standing in favor of the bet

[grand flower]

In Elbaph

Questions that won’t get answered

[hot cairn]

when will you guys give up

[ashen perch]

The rest want to end it, Elbaf is the deadline for them even though that was never part of the bet.

[leaden rivet]

What is the bet Jesùs

[grand flower]

Time for fans to move on from Big Mom, so have the giants mention her a bunch?

Bring up Goldberg having a Homie shield?

Make the mom MMAs look like her?

Say her primary elements are Elbaph’s weaknesses?

[unique lagoon]

zeus will fall asleep and BM dream will spawn

[hot cairn]

I don’t even remember, I think it was if BM was going down for good in Wano or not. But it’s been almost 4 years now since Wano and ended and 2 arcs

[proud pivot]

idek if kidd is coming back this arc let alone bm

[wet condor]

He is

[hot cairn]

Kid is coming back tho

[grand flower]

Kid for sure

[leaden rivet]

Kid I’m rather confident he will come back

[wet condor]

Right at the end

[leaden rivet]

Big mom is just sill

Silly

[hot cairn]

that’s not the same as BM

[leaden rivet]

And unreasonable

And also unfair

[fluid cedar]

Kidd has a higher chance of returning compared to BM he was defeated on elbaph

[unique lagoon]

theres a higher chance Kidd will return cuz he literally went down in elbaf

[grand flower]

Big Mom has a good chance if you’re being good faith about it

[urban lodge]

He'll come back but I'm starting to think it won't be in Elbaf

[hot cairn]

cause Elbaph was the place people were saying she’ll return

[grand flower]

We’ve been constantly reminded of her throughout Elbaph

[leaden rivet]

Well he died in Elbaf so he should still be here

[hot cairn]

agreed

[urban lodge]

I kinda like the idea that he meets Burn Scar since he was the first to mention him

[unique lagoon]

SH might see kidds grave somewhere

[grand flower]

The fandom has reached a point where it just ignores stuff like this and think Oda’s doing it for no reason

[ruby cape]

Kid defo coming back Law gotta die Big Mom is gone

[hot cairn]

me too

[leaden rivet]

I want Kid to come back with acoc nothing less

[ashen perch]

The people are not ready for Post TS Kid, he's going to come back after 2 years in the Heaven Realm of Spirit and Time

[hot cairn]

what is bro even saying

[ashen perch]

Maybe Killer as well

[grand flower]

You got some ideas on you

[ruby cape]

Bro’s just making it up