also-manga

[grand flower]

Zoro makes tornadoes lol

[pulsar path]

Tastumaki hell yeah true.

[grand flower]

Fire Scar is either Rocks or the marine that Sengoku told Garp about

[hot cairn]

oh

[pulsar path]

I thought it would be cool if it Kyo

[grand flower]

He can’t do it anymore

[pulsar path]

Just because he had such a weird intro

[grand flower]

He’s waiting on his successor

[pulsar path]

I feel oda has someuse for him

[dense pike]

watch itll be Tom on a burnt Oro Jackson

[urban lodge]

I see you guys still haven't learned... Burn Scar is Bluejam

[pulsar path]

Franky will cryyyy

[trim lily]

kind of sad the theory about kyo being higurashi probably isn’t true

[unique lagoon]

just list down all the people Neptune would trust to give the last road stone

[pulsar path]

That's the changing granny right

[trim lily]

yeah

[dense pike]

Yeah 😔 I still think she was in the midst of the Rocks crew at some point

[pulsar path]

It still weird how he changes form small to but idk if it's urouge or her powers I feel that

[scenic dirge]

I would literally bet $100 worth of nitro against someone that thinks the burn scar man is an existing character, that’s how I’m confident I am about it being someone we’ve never really seen before.

Nothing in return other than satisfaction of being right

[trim lily]

i’d very much like it being a new character

[tawny panther]

burn scar man is actually a woman

[trim lily]

or sunbell

[hot cairn]

I see

I still think it'll be kinda a new character

[pulsar path]

If we didn't get a big ass flashback introducing all these old heads I would agree but I think it's high chance of being someone from the flashback

It's magnolia

[ornate tartan]

that boy DAVY jones🤫

[scenic dirge]

From the GV flashback?

[unique lagoon]

the marked by flames guy will have a crew
yall trippin if you think hes alone on this

[dense haven]

lois arnot is the burn scar

[maiden charm]

Do we have any hints for burn scar or we guessing 🤔

[tawny panther]

aside from a black ship no

and whirlpools

[maiden charm]

Hmm

[trim lily]

and a burn scar

[dense pike]

shouldve sent this earlier, but what the hey

[trim lily]

that’s literally all

[unique lagoon]

a big ass black ship carrying a stone
surely theres a crew

a strong one

[trim lily]

i’d like it more if it was just him

[unique lagoon]

it just dont make sense in my head 1 guy is sailing a galllion

[dense haven]

its one piece why do you expect it to make sense

[trim lily]

you would think people would bring up his crew then

[tawny panther]

a poneglyph is easy for strong characters to carry around alone lol

[trim lily]

who knows maybe the entire myth is a made up psyop

[unique lagoon]

i mean its all hearsay anyway

oda hammering that with the BBP theorizing about it

[hot cairn]

I agree it's def a new character

[dense pike]

im glad people have mostly moved on from suggesting sedentary characters like Dragon. There was a time when it was hard to convince people Burnscar was constantly on the move

[hot cairn]

there's no other explanation

[prisma yacht]

Interesting

[pulsar path]

Yes I do think someone from there is the burn scar

[dense haven]

gil bastard

[unique lagoon]

i am very doubtful that any of the BBP theories was correct

[trim lily]

claw guy is the burn scar

thats why we didnt see him in the flashback

[dense haven]

gil been suspiciously absent from all the rocks spreads

oda must be hiding something

[tawny panther]

yeah that’s why saul never made sense to me either .. that man was in hiding from the WG , he not gonna carry around a road poneglyph drawing attention from the WG lol

[unique lagoon]

i can even argue the whirlpool is not a DF like laffite said
its a sea kig pet or guardian

[trim lily]

what if kuzan is the burn scar

[dense pike]

someone send the party trick

[prisma yacht]

it cld also be a metaphor

[hot cairn]

the story literally told us it isnt him already

[unique lagoon]

kuzan has other plots man

sketchy mf

[prisma yacht]

He is just trying to figure out his life man

Not everything has to be sketchy

[unique lagoon]

this whirlpool?
yep i can see that being a seaking sucking em down

[prisma yacht]

[trim lily]

he didnt say it wasnt him

[hot cairn]

lol

I doubt it's him, makes no sense

[ornate tartan]

everything fun and games until davy jones comes out that red line

[hot cairn]

but we'll find out soon

[trim lily]

it isnt but i like the idea that he just confirmed it but it was passed off as a joke

[hot cairn]

maybe next arc? Idk I dont see a clear route of what could happen after this arc

[unique lagoon]

so thats a clue
the marked is not 1-2 years new

[hot cairn]

there's a lot of variables

[unique lagoon]

its an old man after roger died

i swear WB is behind this crap

[tawny panther]

if WB was behind it i would think Teach would’ve already known who it is

[wraith mantle]

man i miss my morning coffee

[unique lagoon]

surely captains can do things in secret

[tawny panther]

do they .. everybody ain’t shanks

[unique lagoon]

den den mushi his buddy to take it

its nota WB pirate

its just someone WB entrusted

[ornate tartan]

bro yall not ready for davy d

[prisma yacht]

😂

[unique lagoon]

maybe after roger died and they talked WB realized how important that island is
reason he said Teach aint the one roger was looking for
its another D

[cold steppe]

Buggy* and Davy

[tawny panther]

Marco said WB used to get drunk and just start yapping about stuff , his drunk ass would’ve told them about the poneglyph too lol

yeah Roger was likely waiting for Joyboy successor , not Davy Jones successor

[ornate tartan]

if buggy is a davy i will drop one piece

[tawny panther]

Roger a straw what wearer after all

[ornate tartan]

that would be a pure hack😂

[hot cairn]

btw @hazy turret wanna do a bet? I bet that the last road poneglyph is not on Elbaph

[tawny panther]

i think Buggy has royalty bloodline , but not Davy

[cold steppe]

Not that weird, Ace wasn't roger successor

[tawny panther]

possibly a Nefertari

[cold steppe]

Can happen to blackbeard too

[trim lily]

is it because he has blue hair

[prisma yacht]

Blackbeard is by all means

[tawny panther]

Teach was never trying to be Roger successor

[prisma yacht]

the goat

[tawny panther]

that’s people like Luffy

Teach probably don’t give a fuck about Roger or what he wanted lol

[prisma yacht]

Fuck you on today

[hazy turret]

Good question

Idk 🤷

[hazy turret]

Sure

I bet it is on elbaf

[unique lagoon]

the whole skypeia arc is a prototype

shits crazy

[cold steppe]

I meant blackbeard to rocks
For Roger it wasn't Ace, it was luffy
For rocks it might not be blackbeard, could be loki or buggy

[tawny panther]

Rocks failed though so it’s no successor

Teach already for further than Rocks did

Rocks was the Davy that failed to reach Davy Jones status , Teach won’t be

[unique lagoon]

i think teach found 1 of the DF = yami
but cant find nidhogg
So settled with the destructive power of the gura

[ornate tartan]

the FAKE davy jones and the real Davy😏

[harsh sinew]

imu has that shit

[hot cairn]

okok

BET:
2 week name and pfp change. Rokaya says that the final poneglyph is in elbaph, I say that it isnt.

easy money

it's def not in Elbaph

[ornate tartan]

bro davy jones so tuff😭

[hot cairn]

burn scar man

[tawny panther]

it’s possible Teach knew how Nidhogg DF works so knows it would never reach its full potential wit him since he isn’t a ancient giant size so he never tried finding it

[ornate tartan]

crazy cuz i don’t even know how this nigga looks

[unique lagoon]

but hes still a greedy mf who wants multiple DF

totally different with xebec

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/glaze-gif-8311813170669205912

[tawny panther]

yeah fruits that would be useful to him , if he doesn’t think he can use it to its full potential he wouldn’t want it .. outside of the 2 he has he only wanted Law & Boa DFs so far ( 2 fruits that don’t have physical requirements to reach full potential )

[unique lagoon]

ok hear me out
god of war guy?
his name is davy jones

thats first world timeline

[unique lagoon]

i still think he would eat it

[harsh sinew]

How he gon fit the entire stone into his ship

[ornate tartan]

unc brainwashed me

[unique lagoon]

boa said her df wont work for him but he still wanted it

[tawny panther]

cause he knew she was lying

[hazy turret]

I agree

[tawny panther]

he even told koby he didn’t believe her

[ornate tartan]

i am gonna be the #1 davy jones fan soon

[hot cairn]

idk, that's the only info we have on the road poneglyph that the burn scar man has it

[tawny panther]

and when Oda described how S Snake uses the DF , it’s not the exact same way Boa does

so it’s different ways to use Boa DF

[unique lagoon]

point still stand ye? he IS a selfish self centered character who wants all the power for himsef

[urban lodge]

I'm so ready to hate Davy Jones

[tawny panther]

yeah he def wants power just not any power

[safe cove]

meet law again?? bro should be a strawhat

[tawny panther]

like he didn’t even think about taking Bonney DF

[dense pike]

thank you

[ornate tartan]

I already despise rocks
davy jones would be too much

[tawny panther]

WB pirates still got their DFs too after they lost to Teach

[ornate tartan]

I think he was a kind man

[urban lodge]

He was probably Rocks on steroids

[dense pike]

Yeah fair 😭 though it makes sense why hed end up there at least

[solid mantle]

the last Road Poneglyph is in the Oro Jackson with its Klabauterman guarding it, with the Klabauterman being the Man Marked by Flames.

[tawny panther]

basically what Joyboy is for Luffy & Roger is gonna be what Davy Jones is .. 100x better than what came before aka Rocks 😂

cause roger shit don’t come close to joyboy lol

[safe cove]

there's a chance shanks' mom was a davy d

[unique lagoon]

you guys think this guy is a shipwright?
cuz of the 100 giants using hammers

[hot cairn]

but the oro jackson isnt pitch black tho

[unique lagoon]

or someone who crafts shit with da hammer

[tawny panther]

i don’t think Garling would risk having a Davy clan member baby when his boss Imu wants to slaughter them all

[prisma yacht]

davy d mognolia

[safe cove]

would be funny af shanks and bb are cousins afterall lol

[prisma yacht]

truee

[solid mantle]

it wasn't until it got burned by people trying to get it

[unique lagoon]

we talked about garling wanted it so bad cuz he wanted two child of destiny

[solid mantle]

or by Rogers crew entrusting it with it

[prisma yacht]

nash what did you complete

[latent hamlet]

Rocks but he uses way more pirate puns

[ornate tartan]

i’d believe usopp was a davy before i believe buggy is

[solid mantle]

it unlocks after week 4 is completed

[unique lagoon]

i swear garling has some sinister plan
it involves shanks and shamrock

[prisma yacht]

usopp can actually be a davy

....

[unique lagoon]

so if the twins are identical
then they are both child of destiny

[ornate tartan]

nah that would make him d clan

[prisma yacht]

first guy with the voat

[safe cove]

me personally, i want law to meet rayleigh and hancock

[ornate tartan]

usopp ain’t no damn d clan

[tawny panther]

yeah that bum usopp ain’t D clan lol

he got his dead beat daddy genes

[prisma yacht]

also his character is a reference to jesus

[unique lagoon]

i dint know this lol

[ornate tartan]

you have to have a crazy will to be a D

[ruby moat]

No u don’t

[unique lagoon]

we already got pirate jesus luffy

[prisma yacht]

andd theres his split personality having a sun mask

[tawny panther]

every D clan member so far has been crazy in their own way

[unique lagoon]

buggy kinda crazy

[tawny panther]

very crazy

it’s possible he’s one

[ornate tartan]

bro this guy bb actually crazy, just think about it for a second

[unique lagoon]

also i dont think shanks has VoaT

[ornate tartan]

he has 2 devil fruits in his body😂😂😂😂😂

[tawny panther]

BB & Luffy are new levels of crazy

they in their own tier of crazy lol

[prisma yacht]

krome

[unique lagoon]

his luck alone is crazy

[ornate tartan]

yeah man u have to have guts to even try that

[prisma yacht]

usopp has a strong will

[ornate tartan]

yeah he does 100%

[tawny panther]

even other D clan members acknowledge how crazy Luffy & Teach are 😂

[ornate tartan]

but do u think he would smile in the face of death

even though every single d hasn’t shown this it’s pretty common

[unique lagoon]

we havent seen anyone die with 2 DFs
its all WG propaganda so imu can have all the DFs
she been munching on fruits in that garden

i dont think we even saw a single DF user die via drowning also

oda is such a coward

[tawny panther]

even when DF users fall in the ocean , they always get out lol

[restive wedge]

If he's saving it for Blackbeard tho that would be great

[unique lagoon]

jack was suppose to die drowning
but mf was a fucking fishman

ok bud

[dense pike]

oh thats fun, i bet Law and Hancock would bicker abt Luffy
ones a tsundere, ones an "obsessed"-dere (or whatever its called)

[ornate tartan]

jack don’t even look like a fishman

[tawny panther]

Big Mom fell in the ocean and didn’t even get saved by anybody and still made it out lol

[ornate tartan]

he just looks like a demon

[restive wedge]

Ok that one was crazy

[unique lagoon]

also will luffys alliance get pluton and posseidon
surely someone steal one of em

[dense pike]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-caribou-caribou-one-piece-swamp-tongue-out-gif-30545506879782158

[ornate tartan]

yall saw the twitter discussion about admirals bringing tension more then the WG

[unique lagoon]

caribou really is da goat
shame he dint hear about uranus

ruined

[ornate tartan]

even though the HK been underwhelming so far this is still incorrect😂

[prisma yacht]

theres the whole miracle thingy apart from that on the surface his father yasopp not being there also joseph in hebrew is yasoph

[ornate tartan]

what tension did kizaru bring

[tawny panther]

yeah pluton will be taken away from the good guys ..

that’s the whole point of Oda giving Franky the pluton 2.0 blueprints “if the real pluton fell into the wrong hands “

[ornate tartan]

he got turned into a fucking pizza

[prisma yacht]

theres more to it i just remember these rn

[tawny panther]

the wrong hands aka

[prisma yacht]

and im sleepy

[ornate tartan]

the strawhats having all the ancient weapons would be boring

[scarlet nacelle]

i always figured usopp and yasopp were a play on the name aesopp
the guy from greece(i think) who made all those fables

[tawny panther]

calling it now .. Pluton used to be Davy Jones personal ship

[grand flower]

Akainu takes pluton

[ornate tartan]

give one ancient weapon to Luffy, one to BB and one to Katakuri

[unique lagoon]

since we talking about multiple plutons
what if Imu dont have uranus
its just a really old pluton ship they turned into a flying thing or floating
uranus is still out there

[ornate tartan]

@high wolf

[unique lagoon]

im also starting to think pluton was made by giant giga shipwrights

[hot cairn]

people are hating so much on Elbaph in twitter😭

[unique lagoon]

the blueprints was passed down eventually given to tom who is a fishman

from the 100

[ornate tartan]

that’s all i’m seeing since the chapter came out lol😂

[hot cairn]

I agree

[high wolf]

Katakuri

[tawny panther]

yeah since it’s been implied the ancient wepaons were created by the ancient kingdom with their advanced tech

i think the Galle La Giants helped them build Pluton

maybe elbaf & ancient kingdom were allied back then

[hot cairn]

what does BB take then

[unique lagoon]

it just maes too much sense these old ass 100 giants who build ships made pluton
maybe god of war with ragnir was also a ship builder

[rose rune]

hope

[safe cove]

isn't he afraid of samurai?

[unique lagoon]

akainu takes pluton
then the civil war happens

FFA final war

[ornate tartan]

the ancient weapon users

Luffy: Poseidon
Blackbeard: Pluton
Imu or Katakuri: Uranus

[tawny panther]

we already know marines don’t fuck with yonko territory .. Luffy flag is on Wano lol

[ornate tartan]

idk who on the good side would get uranus so i just chose a random mf

WG probably keeps it though

[unique lagoon]

now just include nidhogg there
cuz it seams like hes almost ancient weapon level of power

[ornate tartan]

until the final war kicks off

[hot cairn]

the WG already has Uranus

[safe cove]

gross

[tawny panther]

i do know of someone who won’t care about seeing a flag/billboard with Luffy on it though lol

[ornate tartan]

yeah for now, I think they will lose it at some point though, most likely strawhats will acquire it

I think the true purpose of the 3 ancient weapons is to help with reshaping the landmass after the world is destroyed/flooded

[prisma yacht]

yeah sure, its open to interpretation

[ornate tartan]

that’s why they were preserved

let me know what yall think

[unique lagoon]

im not buying imu has uranus just yet
cuz basing on crocodiles explanation pluton can destroy and island

all of them can shoot an island down?

[ornate tartan]

that’s why all 3 are needed together

[unique lagoon]

posseidon iirc can sink the world thats the power how i dunno

[grand flower]

Nah, he was looking out for them because the admirals’ parents are from there

[grand flower]

Seraphim, then Imu’s power once he loses them

[safe cove]

which?

[tawny panther]

maybe the sea kings can somehow control the sea levels as well

[ornate tartan]

if poseidon can be something destructive but also something that saves a lot of lives, i think the true purpose of the other 2 could be the same

[tawny panther]

and flood the world by raising them

[grand flower]

All of them except for Kizaru maybe

[prisma yacht]

akainu has played with tougher samurais when he was a kid

[safe cove]

i believe akainu is from yano

[grand flower]

I believe Yano is Onigashima

[ornate tartan]

but before the true purpose of the ancient weapons can be used we gonna have blackbeard wreak some havoc with one first

[unique lagoon]

so yeah this mf sank the world during joyboys war

[hot cairn]

ohhh I see

[ornate tartan]

show the destructive side and then we will see the useful side later

[tawny panther]

yeah the mural said the sea god raged when the sun god was killed

[hot cairn]

I think so yes

[unique lagoon]

i think nika was just there to guide posseidon
and prob nidhogg also

[rose brook]

crazy that we still dont know the previous poseidon

[unique lagoon]

but failed during 1st and 2nd

[rose brook]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-opening-egghead-shirahoshi-poseidon-gif-13130854832227173931

[unique lagoon]

these never meet thing? its nidhogg and posseidon

[grand flower]

@safe cove

This is how he’s gonna get it

Got the perfect power for it

[safe cove]

If poseidon is a creature, plutom is a ship, i prefer uranus to be another form, like a df or something

[grand flower]

Fuck im

[unique lagoon]

i think back then someone said that the volcano is the exhaust pipe for pluton

[graceful belfry]

[grand flower]

Pre-TS, Akainu stopped teach from getting a battleship

Post-TS, Akainu stops teach from getting the ultimate battleship

Blackbeard will come up with the seraphim and imus powers tho

[unique lagoon]

wont it be wild if nidhogg is uranus all along
that be a twist

[tawny panther]

Teach using Pizzaro and quietly snatching Pluton without destroying Wano without killing their citizens

[unique lagoon]

is it a good twist? who knows

[ornate tartan]

he doesn’t need imu powers

[grand flower]

That’s too bad gang

This is how Akainu will know about pluton

His parents were part of that group

[dark nymph]

Akainu is from Yano

[unique lagoon]

ey someone finally talking about the other wano group that split up

[prisma yacht]

akainu wishes he was that strong

[tough igloo]

Luffy will have Poseidon

Imu will have Uranus

Teach will have Pluton

the Big 3 of the final saga & the story overall

[grand flower]

Akainu has Wano’s cultural symbols tattooed on his body

[dark nymph]

shiki killed Akainus parents

[prisma yacht]

bb left without a fight bcs it wasnt worth the risk

[safe cove]

i don't see the reason akainu stealing pluton

[prisma yacht]

if akainu tries to stop bb now hes a dead man

[tough igloo]

Akainu boss Imu will already have a ancient weapon so he’ll be fine

[grand flower]

For navy rebellion

[ornate tartan]

bro Davy Jones is the goat

[safe cove]

yeah this is perfect

[unique lagoon]

akainu and fuji originated in Yano?

[harsh sinew]

No imu will have uranus

Not mine

[grand flower]

You’re forgetting how important the navy and Revos are

[prisma yacht]

fuji?

[tough igloo]

not as important as Luffy Teach Imu .. but they are important though

[unique lagoon]

fujitora

[safe cove]

i mean the destructive scale of his single blast breath alone is equal to or even surpasses mother flames lol

so yeah it would be dope

[graceful belfry]

Damn that’s pretty similar

[grand flower]

Exactly

All of the Admirals are based on characters from yakuza movies

[unique lagoon]

btw dont forget how rare fujis weapon is

[ornate tartan]

u not ready for davy jones

[unique lagoon]

how did fuji got that sword

[grand flower]

Issho and Aramaki are from movies where samurai are yakuza

Yakuza and samurai both come from Wano

[tough igloo]

i’m not , i thought i was ready for rocks but he was better than I expected and I know Davy Jones will be even better than Rocks 🍿🍿

[safe cove]

https://tenor.com/view/partae-gif-2736545387476310408

[grand flower]

And Issho is wearing the exact same outfit as Ryuma

Aramaki gets his design and powers debuted in Wano

Both were personally recruited by Akainu

[harsh sinew]

Why do u call it rare

[tough igloo]

anybody who puts fear into Imu as much as Joyboy does is gonna be a goated character

[grand flower]

Cmon bro

[ornate tartan]

compared to blackbeard and davy jones

rocks doesn’t have that grimy cutthroat feeling

[tough igloo]

Imu only fears GOATS

[grand flower]

The admirals’ parents are from Wano

[ornate tartan]

and i don’t even know wtf davy jones is or looks like

i just know he was that guy

[graceful belfry]

Wonder when Oda is going to base a character on Toshiro Mifune

[prisma yacht]

dang i didnt know it was a supreme grade

[tough igloo]

yeah sbs lore lol

[grand flower]

Akainus father

[safe cove]

it is

[prisma yacht]

thats dope

[safe cove]

freakin fuji has supreme grade and he can't even cut doffy's strings

[grand flower]

Admirals come from Wano

[graceful belfry]

Dilfy

[grand flower]

Just like Zoro

You heard it here first

[hot cairn]

Shuron believes that Dragon is defeating Imu so he may get really important for the endgame

[prisma yacht]

dilfy upscale

[harsh sinew]

No one could cut bird cage tbf

[hot cairn]

I dont see Akainu getting Pluton tho

[unique lagoon]

i dont know about Greenbull
but he does have a black blade

[graceful belfry]

Pass me the smoke @grand flower

[tough igloo]

lol Shuron also believes Luffy time traveled 🤷🏾‍♂️

[ornate tartan]

who is gonna hype a black blob

[grand rain]

Who do I vote for today

[safe cove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-8915831303111826392

[grand rain]

So far I've voted for York, Perona, Porche

[grand flower]

He’s got the relationship with Akainu, powers and design debuted in Wano. Also Aramaki may have been warning Wano

[graceful belfry]

Big Mom

[grand rain]

bet

[hot cairn]

I dont know if I see Akainu taking Pluton tho

[prisma yacht]

harald

[unique lagoon]

someone post the Greenbull mini backstory from SBS

[prisma yacht]

nooo

[hot cairn]

I still dont see him as someone who would cut ties with the WG

[unique lagoon]

nvm got it

[grand flower]

Why else does Akainu have all these connections to Wano and the powers to get it from a volcano and the motivation with his frustrations at how the WG uses the Navy

[graceful belfry]

[prisma yacht]

noooo

[hot cairn]

LOL, it's not that crazy to think that but Luffy is def beating Imu's ass

[hot cairn]

true

[prisma yacht]

harald deserved ur vote

[grand flower]

How you feeling bout my theory that their parents are from Wano

[graceful belfry]

All I’m asking for is a Luffy x Dragon duo attack

[safe cove]

gb was a police officer heh, not surprising

[graceful belfry]

And for Dragon to victimize Garling

[harsh sinew]

Dragon will get the queen Treatment

[unique lagoon]

the sword alone i think is a big tell for fuji

[hot cairn]

I dont see the Wano connections tbh and his frustrations wont lead him away from the WG. I dont see Akainu siding with the revos and pirates during a fight with the WG.

[dense haven]

dragon fans have no standards anymore?

are you really gonna settle with garling

[graceful belfry]

That’s him

Dragon does to Garling what Luffy does to Blueno

[unique lagoon]

mf was an alcoholic at that age
good one oda

[prisma yacht]

is this gb?

[dense haven]

thats orange jjiice

[grand flower]

He has Wano’s exact symbols as tattoos

The admirals are based on yakuza and samurai

His age lines up with Wano’s exodus

[unique lagoon]

ye

[graceful belfry]

Bro picked up the bottle at an early age. You know he was stressed the fuck out

[prisma yacht]

lol

[grand flower]

Just like Kuzan

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kid-fail-30

[ornate tartan]

shiki was yonko level with temu swords

[hot cairn]

that doesnt mean he's from Wano

[prisma yacht]

hes from yano

[safe cove]

i would take shamrock over garling

[grand flower]

Yeah it do

[ornate tartan]

either is fine

[hot cairn]

nu uh

[dense haven]

dragon fans used to be so ambitious what happened

[unique lagoon]

foreshadowing of him stealing DevilFruits

[grand flower]

Too much to be coincidence

[safe cove]

ew fck garling

[hot cairn]

mmm perhaps but still

[graceful belfry]

Shamrock needs to see the sun

And join the cool guys side

[unique lagoon]

kuzan prob the one who will reveal how they steal DFs huh?

[hot cairn]

I really dont see Akainu dipping from the WG

[prisma yacht]

kuzan drinking branded alcohol

[unique lagoon]

akainu looks like a perfect DR person

[safe cove]

there's a chance he's more cruel than his dad ngl

[graceful belfry]

You think so? How come? Put me on

[leaden rivet]

Shamrock isn’t any better than garling

[unique lagoon]

akainu might get desperate and take the HK mark

[hot cairn]

Akainu wil sink with the WG ship

[leaden rivet]

Don’t get it twisted

[hot cairn]

WHAT IS IT, THE BRAIDS?

[graceful belfry]

LOL

[leaden rivet]

What

[grand flower]

Post one panel where he has a positive interaction with a non-Navy WG entity?

[prisma yacht]

theres also a chnce we see vergil dante duo

[safe cove]

wasn't the game in elbaph shamrock commanded?

[graceful belfry]

That’s actually the funniest thing Kendrick said that whole beef

[runic dock]

He does have braids too lmao

[graceful belfry]

Yeah but c’mon

I’d wanna make a game out of it too

[prisma yacht]

[ornate tartan]

maybe but i hope not

[leaden rivet]

The worst Garling did is like kill a woman and hunt some slaves

[graceful belfry]

[leaden rivet]

It’s not really that outlandish for like CD standards, Shamrock likely did the same

[hot cairn]

Akainu is an antagonistic person, he doesnt have a positive reaction with anyone in the story lol, maybe with Kizaru after he shut his bitch ass up in Egghead.

[hot cairn]

fr LOL

[grand flower]

Not true, he does with the marines

[hot cairn]

te falta cultura Illy

[grand flower]

He has positive interactions with Fujitora, Kizaru, green Bull, and brown horse

[safe cove]

huh

[hot cairn]

the marines he kills during Marineford because of desertion?

[leaden rivet]

[graceful belfry]

True

[leaden rivet]

Is that some rap reference

[harsh sinew]

The marines like him after all they voted for him

[hot cairn]

idk if that's the word, sorry if I wrote it wrong

[grand flower]

He has good and bad interactions with marines

He has ONLY bad interactions with the rest of the government

[graceful belfry]

Don’t worry, I’m just being edgy for shits and giggles. Yeah, that was pretty fucked up of Shamrock

[hot cairn]

he's always screaming at them and fighting

[grand flower]

Nope

He has quiet convos with Fujitora and brown horse and Kizaru

[hot cairn]

yes, from the Drake and Kendrick beef

[graceful belfry]

Brown Horse

[grand flower]

Fujitora calls him “Saka-san”

They have a friendly relationship

They just had one heated argument

Which Sanji and Luffy have had so

Contrast

[hot cairn]

quiet?

[grand flower]

Akainu only has heated interactions with celestial dragons

It’s never positive

[grand flower]

When Fujitora and him talk over the phone after the reverie

[hot cairn]

idk man I just think nothing in the story has tell me that Akainu will dip from the WG

[grand flower]

They have a completely friendly conversation

[grand flower]

The fact that his interactions with the celestial dragons have all, 100%, every single one, been contentious

[hot cairn]

there's nothing that could convince me of Akainu fighting with Pirates and Revos lol

not at all

[grand flower]

That’s not what I said

It’s not Akainu joining pirates and Revos

It’s Akainu deciding the navy has to handle all of them

And that’s the pay off to all the connections to Wano

He goes to get pluton to do it

[hot cairn]

who will Akainu fight when Pirates and Revos are fighting the WG?

[grand flower]

Pirates, Revos and the WG

[prisma yacht]

everyone

[grand flower]

His final fight will be Sabo

[prisma yacht]

lol

[grand flower]

Exactly lol

[graceful belfry]

You know BALL

[grand flower]

Akainu is gonna use pluton to try to implement martial law

[hot cairn]

eh

[grand flower]

The WG will be revealed to just be another danger to the public

[leaden rivet]

Kizaru will betray

[grand flower]

Kizaru did betray them so shut up

[grand flower]

It’s gotta be

[graceful belfry]

Makes the most thematic and narrative sense

[hot cairn]

idk man I just dont see the point of everyone vs the WG

[grand flower]

That line about magma being supreme to fire gonna bite him in the ass

[hot cairn]

I dont think I like it either

personally

maybe that's why I dont see it as a possibility

[grand flower]

but you believe in the mural

[graceful belfry]

It’s pretty much gonna come down to that tho

[grand flower]

but you don't see the point of everyone vs the WG?

Yeah Rei is right

[hot cairn]

I do?

[leaden rivet]

Lonzo or Lamelo?

Sorry, Rokaya tier joke

[grand flower]

The WGs entire methodology is to keep the world divided

[hot cairn]

that's

[leaden rivet]

[hot cairn]

that's really boring

[graceful belfry]

Lamelo is a much better player

[grand flower]

the natural conclusion is gonna be the world coming together to take them down

[hot cairn]

I want antagonists to stay as antagonists

[grand flower]

that's the thing

akainu will still be an antagonist

[prisma yacht]

well akainu will still be opposing luffy

[hot cairn]

will he

[grand flower]

the fact that akainu's motivation would be "fuck the WG now, but it's still fuck the rest of you guys" makes it less cut and dry than "everyone against the WG"

[leaden rivet]

KIZARU WILL BETRAY

[hot cairn]

they'll team up if they're all fighting the WG

[grand flower]

Akainu will still be antagonistic toward our protagaonists

protagonists*

the entire thing is gonna be chaotic

[hot cairn]

will betray who?

[grand flower]

just like blackbeard is against the WG as well, but also an antagonist to us

[unique lagoon]

where in the hell is fujitora man
mf went on vacation?

[leaden rivet]

Idk people kept spamming it during egghead

Was kinda funny

[grand flower]

illy is being dumb because people said that about kizaru in egghead

even though kizaru literally did betray them by sandbagging and feeding luffy

[graceful belfry]

Kizaru gave Akainu a piece of his mind

[hot cairn]

btw Sharon I dont really think the mural has painted the 3rd world so idk why you said that

[grand flower]

goes to show how much their discussion has devolved, shame

[leaden rivet]

Have you ever tried to kill your own friend?! (He’s talking to the guy who committed genocide)

[hot cairn]

idk man, everyone helping Luffy is kinda boring to me

[unique lagoon]

oh you saying the mural and the harley text aint 1 to 1

i like this take

[graceful belfry]

Ngl Kizaru kinda hoed Akainu. Had him apologizing and shit

[grand flower]

i said a couple times he's not helping luffy, and is still posing a danger to luffy

[hot cairn]

you say that they'll stay as antagonists but they'll obviously help Luffy

[prisma yacht]

not contradicting btw

[grand flower]

claiming pluton is exactly how akainu will pose a threat to so many powers that be at once

[leaden rivet]

Never said otherwise

It’s just a bit funny

[unique lagoon]

its the shonen ending where only 1 guy turned out evil evil

[leaden rivet]

We all know the TRUE evil is Imu

Everyone else is a victim

[prisma yacht]

rok tier

[hot cairn]

yeah I dont think the thrid world is in the mural at all

[harsh sinew]

He is not going against wg, he knows about imu , why do u think aokiji quit. I actually thinks he likes imu management style not all of it but most of it

[leaden rivet]

I learned from the worst

[graceful belfry]

Blackbeard takes dumps that are more evil than Imu

[grand flower]

not when he'll be attacking luffy as well, which is why sabo will have to handle him so luffy can advance

[graceful belfry]

Sorry

[safe cove]

does akainu consider kuzan a friend

[unique lagoon]

also need to consider theres morepages in the harley

[hot cairn]

Crocodile was still an antagonist during MF and he still helped Luffy mutliple times, I dont want to see Akainu doing that in the Final War

[prisma yacht]

[leaden rivet]

Didn’t you hear Rei? Blackbeard will also join Luffy.

[hot cairn]

ah that's a shonen thing? Idk if I like that at all

[leaden rivet]

The final battle will be a Disney channel original movie against Imu

[grand flower]

@hot cairn even if you ignore the mural, the fact that the WG's methodology is divide and conquer means it's inevitable that their downfall will come from all the forces they've oppressed lashing back at them

[graceful belfry]

I’ve been day drinking so you need to re-type this so that I can better comprehend

Blackbeard is not joining Luffy

[unique lagoon]

it ends with the big baddy being too evil even for the villains

[grand flower]

Even if some of those forces keep throwing shots at each other, it's inevitable that they will all turn their fangs at the WG

[prisma yacht]

the final battle is between bb and luffy

[hot cairn]

but he wont be attacking luffy tho if everyone is fighting against the WG

[grand flower]

yes he can do that

he just has to attack forces from both

it's a battle royale

[leaden rivet]

Luffy will touch his shoulder and clear his evil thoughts with freedom

[prisma yacht]

probably did

[leaden rivet]

Or something

Let me cook

[grand flower]

we already know the final conflict of the story will be like a battle royale

[hot cairn]

but why does that need to include the navy

[unique lagoon]

also i for one pref the final war to be a FFA
even the final battle with MC
make it an all out brawl
1 v 1s kinda whatever now

[hot cairn]

that's so boring

[grand flower]

because the navy is also a victim of theirs

[hot cairn]

I would preffer that everyone has their own agenda during final war

[grand flower]

there will be navy who stay with the WG, who fight for the world, and who fight with akainu

[unique lagoon]

blackbeard vs luffy vs imu vs someone else

[hot cairn]

and not everyone is just following Luffy

that would be very boring to me

[grand flower]

that's exactly what you're about to get

[prisma yacht]

also i dont think kuzan will betray bb

[grand flower]

you keep framing it like "fighting the WG means following luffy"

no dude

you can fight luffy and the WG

[graceful belfry]

I’d laugh out loud

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard AND Luffy AND Akainu AND Enel vs Imu

[hot cairn]

did you read my Marineford comparison with Crocodile?

[unique lagoon]

who does dragon even fight

[grand flower]

i don't really see why you said that

[hot cairn]

boring af

[prisma yacht]

garling

[graceful belfry]

He beats the living day light out of Garling

[leaden rivet]

Dragon beats Garling and then gets hype tooled for Imu

[grand flower]

oda can just write that akainu never helps luffy

[unique lagoon]

i feel like theres more to garling guys

this child of destiny thing

[graceful belfry]

He’s disappointed me so far

[prisma yacht]

yeah there are the twins

[hot cairn]

yeah because that's how things will end up going

[leaden rivet]

Well there’s some people who think Dragon will defeat Imu

[graceful belfry]

In terms of power

[graceful belfry]

😭

[hot cairn]

it's how marineford went down

[prisma yacht]

you can say sak

its ok

[hot cairn]

Mihawk literally pauses mid fight to say "oh shit, everyone wants to help Luffy, that's dangerous"

[grand flower]

that's not necessarily true at all. Akainu can just be an antagonist to everyone who isn't a marine under his command

[unique lagoon]

it all started here
i remember it like yesterday

[grand flower]

cap

[hot cairn]

@grand flower

[grand flower]

it started with the manga for me

[grand flower]

idc dude

[unique lagoon]

wait is that even the artur piece

[grand flower]

that just doesn't have to happen

[leaden rivet]

You know as long as Blackbeard is the final villain idrc that much about anything else

[grand flower]

like that's not something that HAS to happen if Oda does this

[graceful belfry]

He will be. It’s set in stone

[grand flower]

there is no reason for me to just start ignoring this

[hot cairn]

but we have mutliple examples of that happening in a lot of arcs dude

[grand flower]

okay and oda doesn't have to do that to make akainu rebel against the WG

[unique lagoon]

mf been reading too much of that other manga to have this much dialog

[leaden rivet]

The thing about dragon

[graceful belfry]

Artur saw the future

[leaden rivet]

Is that he’s like too ugly. So I can’t really vibe with him like that

[graceful belfry]

Do you like Vegeta?

[prisma yacht]

even as a cd myself

[unique lagoon]

turns out shanks was the CD not dragon

[leaden rivet]

Are you speaking to me

[graceful belfry]

Duh

[leaden rivet]

Mixed feelings

[unique lagoon]

luffys mom being CD was a better theory than this

but shanks taking that half CD half D now

almost

[hot cairn]

I'm just saying that of he rebels he'll end up somehow someway supporting Luffy to defeat the WG, that's just how things go. Wyper, Law, Crocodile, Bege, Kid etc all had different agendas during their arcs and they all ended up helping Luffy and wanting Luffy to win.

it's a One Piece staple

you really cant ignore that

I would preffer an all out war

[grand flower]

i can ignore that

because akainu just also attack luffy

[leaden rivet]

How do you feel about Akainu and Luffy hugging after they defeat Imu Jesus

[grand flower]

they banned socrates but illy can do this lol

[hot cairn]

there's a 100% chance that I would hate that

[prisma yacht]

lmao

[hot cairn]

I dont want BB and Luffy vs Imu either

that sounds like a snoozefest

[quiet ice]

I forgot about this good lord

[leaden rivet]

You have little faith in Oda

[grand flower]

snide and disruptive the entire convo but socrates talked about loki too much

[graceful belfry]

Would be butt cheeks regardless of how well it’s executed

Idc how unreasonable that is

[hot cairn]

we dont know that for sure and I gave you many examples of Oda making everyone put their faith in Luffy

[grand flower]

monkey family jumping imu is better than bb and luffy vs imu

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard joining Luffy truly is one of the most eodiculous theories ever

Eodiculous

[grand flower]

i don't know for sure that oda will write luffy being helped by akainu either

so why would i let that dictate how i feel about akainu rebelling against the WG any more than the alternative

[quiet ice]

Trueing so hard

[hot cairn]

I agree, I dont think I'll care if it's the best written moment in the series it'll still be boring and a snoozefest

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard joining Imu is almost as bad as Shanks having an evil twin

[harsh sinew]

shanks having an imu twin is peak

[hot cairn]

I really dont get why people want Luffy and BB vs Imu

[grand flower]

it probably won't be tbh

[leaden rivet]

I don’t want to hear this from someone who regularly calls women bitches

[grand flower]

i mean, they have the dual ideals about freedom and imu is the oppression guy

[hot cairn]

I agree 100%

[grand flower]

blackbeard and luffy are like oil and water

those kinds of characters teaming up to fight an even nastier threat is a popular trope

and for good reason

[hot cairn]

because there's factual truth of that happening before

[grand flower]

think optimus and megatron having to fight unicron type shit

[hot cairn]

wont be boring? to me it will

[harsh sinew]

I mean anything is fine but as long as bb doesn't go ahead and kill imu on some black zetsu shit

[hot cairn]

that's so boring tho

[leaden rivet]

I hope Blackbeard kills Imu

[grand flower]

they gon delete this

[leaden rivet]

Exactly like that

[hot cairn]

Oda has so much potential with this story

[harsh sinew]

Ye no

[leaden rivet]

Luffy should be the one to defeat Imu, but Blackbeard should be the one to kill Imu

[harsh sinew]

Character Suicide

[hot cairn]

I really dont want him to just make this simple ass moments happen

[grand flower]

I mean Imu aint' all that

i don't mind him getting snuffed like that

[urban lodge]

I hope BB trips over and dies

[trim lily]

he might

[leaden rivet]

Hating on Blackbeard is guaranteeing unhappinesss in the future Penny

[quiet ice]

That was AI

[harsh sinew]

Literally the entire story of one piece is about imu

[grand flower]

you know better than this

[urban lodge]

Unfortunately true

[trim lily]

even the first 900 chapters

[leaden rivet]

Respect women around me from now on. I won’t tell you again.

[hot cairn]

I would preffer Dragon taking out Imu than BB killing him and taking his fruit

that's so fucking boring man

like

[leaden rivet]

You not liking something doesn’t mean it’s boring

Well

[vernal ravine]

[leaden rivet]

That’s exactly what it means

Nvm

However

[hot cairn]

LOL

[harsh sinew]

Yes. Literally every thematic topic on each arc round back to him

[leaden rivet]

I think it’s fine

[hot cairn]

I know

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard as a character is kind of like a wild card, he tips the entire table over

He’s quite nonstandard

[hearty shore]

i can't wait for the double spread about the mural happening for real

[leaden rivet]

And I think it’s fine if he tips that table before the Luffy genericly takes out the big bad

[hot cairn]

BB has more prescence than Imu

[trim lily]

my biggest hope was for blackbeard and imu to stay seperate when it comes to being threats or villains but at this point that feels impossible

[leaden rivet]

It’s going to be very hard to do

[hot cairn]

Luffy doing it is way better

[grand flower]

cause you know what's coming don't you dolfius

[leaden rivet]

What you want Luffy to kill Imu?

[hot cairn]

mine too

[hot cairn]

no I want Luffy to defeat Imu

[grand flower]

yeahh yall know what's gon happen if they cross paths

[trim lily]

given rocks i feel like its nigh guaranteed blackbeard will be involved with imu to some degree lol

[grand flower]

whole lotta pirate shit

[leaden rivet]

I do also

[urban lodge]

Bro stole Doffy's line

[leaden rivet]

I just want Blackbeard to kill him

[grand flower]

yall know that demon coming

[hearty shore]

watch imu try to DR BB but because BB has many souls in him, he keeps his consciousness but also gains the stat boosts DR gives

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/sun-vs-darkness-darkness-sun-gear-5-gear5-gif-5939945330611019259

[leaden rivet]

A Blackbeard vs Imu fight is a lot more entertaining to me than an Imu vs Luffy

[frigid gulch]

He said it with more aura I fear

[hot cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-sleepy-sleepy-eyes-so-sleepy-good-night-gif-16664401258023829878

[frigid gulch]

[trim lily]

luffy is gonna have to be involved either way

[grand flower]

putting your hopes for imu to bed? better late than too late

[hot cairn]

nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[leaden rivet]

Yeah he’ll be the one that does most of the damage to Imu

[trim lily]

i just want blackbeard to die at laughtale, is that too much to ask

[hot cairn]

you know I'm a Blackbeard guy

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard is a predator

He stalks and waits for his enemies at their weakest

[hot cairn]

luffy and bb vs imu🤮

[hearty shore]

me when a pirate in one piece does what a real life pirate does

[urban lodge]

Imu really was right in trying to wipe out the Davy clan

[trim lily]

what if its luffy and imu vs bb

have we considered this

[leaden rivet]

Lowkey

That isn’t that bad

[hot cairn]

boring as shit too

[hearty shore]

not all davy are bad

[vernal ravine]

no please

[hearty shore]

just rocks and blackbeard

[trim lily]

now that i say it i think i genuinely would prefer luffy and imu teaming up than luffy and blackbeard lmao

[leaden rivet]

And then what if after defeating Blackbeard they get married

[trim lily]

[grand flower]

OP fans when reading Imu and Dragon be developed the same way all manga results in dragon taking out imu

[vernal ravine]

imu needs to go

[hearty shore]

luffy and imu teaming up is genuinely like two magnets trying to touch each other when they're the same pole

[leaden rivet]

It’s all silly to me, any form of team up between Luffy and his main villains

Luffy should be beating the shit out of all of them

[harsh sinew]

Not rlly. But in a way Yes. As imu hasn't rlly been Unleashed. But also no I don't care about aura like that I want unique narrative. I do not want some sukuna trash

[leaden rivet]

Akainu, Blackbeard, Imu

No team ups just pain

[hot cairn]

I dont want it to happen

[grand flower]

yall are losing the plot

[hot cairn]

Illy you're incredibly correct

[leaden rivet]

I know you killed my brother Akainu, but let’s team up this one time

[hearty shore]

guys hear me out, the whole world vs imu

it's literally what's happening in the mural

[trim lily]

im opposed to any teamup in general so im shrimply considering the alternatives

[urban lodge]

An Akainu team up would be less crazy than a BB team up

[vernal ravine]

long ago i thought dragon was gonna be the one to fight imu nowdays i don't think that but i can't discard it

[trim lily]

yeah thatll probably happen

[leaden rivet]

Imu team up makes the most sense because Luffy hates the other 2

[grand flower]

yall keep talking about team ups after oda said the final stage will be a battle royale and i just can't help but laugh

[hot cairn]

I dont wanna see no team ups with BB, Imu and Akainu

[leaden rivet]

Luffy has active beef with them

[hot cairn]

just hands

[leaden rivet]

Luffy and Akainu is on sight

[hot cairn]

I hope that's true

[leaden rivet]

There will be no words

[grand flower]

like the author himself literally said the framing is gonna be something very distinctly NOT team ups

[grand flower]

bro what

[hot cairn]

I want a battle royale

[grand flower]

wym you hope it's true

[hot cairn]

just saying that's what I want

[grand flower]

the nigga who draws this tol us that

[hearty shore]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fortnite-run

how franky be moving

[trim lily]

wait who here was arguing for bb and luffy vs imu then

i thought shuron was

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-one-piece-franky-the-group-tewc-gif-21724826

[small ember]

Solely why I prefer this over Sabo vs Akainu

[urban lodge]

I can unironically see a future where Akainu recognizes he chose wrong and like dies trying to save Luffy or something because Ace parallels

[hot cairn]

the nigga who draws is a liar

[leaden rivet]

Sabo vs Akainu is so ass

Who even wants to watch that

[vernal ravine]

oda foreshadowing

[leaden rivet]

I want Koby vs Akainu

[trim lily]

i dont think he'd go that far but i do foresee akainu breaking away from the WG

[small ember]

I can see Akainu leaving the marines to become more of a hardliner

[hot cairn]

woah Illy is SPITTING today

[grand flower]

i just pointed out what the appeal to it would be, i don't really care either way

[hearty shore]

i genuinely miss franky crafting things out of the wazoo

[leaden rivet]

When am I not

[trim lily]

he'll bring his own faction of True Marines ™

[hot cairn]

[small ember]

Same way I can see Fuji and Sword splitting

[vernal ravine]

me

[leaden rivet]

You give me that look but name one bad take I’ve ever had

[small ember]

Throw Smoker and Tashigi in there too

[trim lily]

3 way marine split

[leaden rivet]

I’ll wait

[hot cairn]

this Rocks and Imu shi, made me think otherwise

[hearty shore]

in 5 more years we have akainu edits about how he killed all 5 gorosei and then left WG

[grand flower]

Fujitora would probably genuinely stay with Akainu

[hot cairn]

I cant recall your honor

[small ember]

Yeah it would be:
WG faithful
Extremists
Good guys

[trim lily]

akainu, greenbull and fujitora

[safe cove]

fujitora fleet admiral eos

[trim lily]

no

[leaden rivet]

Because it does not exist Jesùs

[hot cairn]

if the final war is anything but a free for all it would be BORING

sorry

but it's the truth

[small ember]

I could see this if Akainu’s thinking is changed slightly. Like Fuji pushes him to question more but obv not buddy-buddy

[leaden rivet]

I really don’t want another clusterfuck like marineford where it feels like half the combatants are waiting around

[small ember]

PLEASE no Sabo vs Akainu

[trim lily]

its happening

[small ember]

Final war has to be a full on campaign

Please

[trim lily]

if youre lucky koby and luffy will get to help

[urban lodge]

I think I'd rather have a 2nd Marineford than a 2nd Onigashima

[grand flower]

idk Issho was responsible for war crimes in the past. He also gambled with Dressrosa's lives. And he's cozy with Akainu

[hot cairn]

it wont be like Marineford because Oda will actually be able to show people going off

[grand flower]

Sabo finishing off Akainu has a lot of narrative behind it

yall are just being contrarian with that one

[hot cairn]

I agree

[trim lily]

i think most people just think itd be boring to have sabo vs akainu

[leaden rivet]

If the final war is as big as you guys thing it is, then half the characters there will get like a single panel showing them do stuff and that’s it

[hearty shore]

imu pulling up to the one piece after defeating luffy and teach be like

[hot cairn]

I just wanna see Luffy beating Akainu's ass

[urban lodge]

But all the straw hats will get their obligatory fights since it's the big final battle, and some other major characters

[small ember]

Nah those are fair points, I think he’s definitely a penitent person or at least is changing in some way

[grand flower]

OP fans razing Wano for "dropped set up" then also calling direct set up and pay off boring because they saw it coming

you gotta love em

[trim lily]

i think sabo, koby and luffy vs akainu would be more fun :)

[leaden rivet]

I feel like the fight just isn’t interesting and neither is Sabo

[trim lily]

not everything has to be a 1v1

[small ember]

It’s just hard for me to picture Akainu being taken down by anyone but the man who saw him kill Ace with his own eyes

[leaden rivet]

Koby is a much more interesting character to me

And it would be so cool for him to stand up to Akainu and actually be able to fight back

[hot cairn]

Illy do you have Sharon blocked?

[grand flower]

a lot of people gotta remember that oda can just draw multiple characters fighting characters like teach, akainu and imu

[leaden rivet]

Compared to in marineford when he was crying

[leaden rivet]

Nope

[vernal ravine]

you want him to get insta killed

[grand flower]

don't worry about all that

[urban lodge]

The thing is Koby will already murder Kuzan

[hot cairn]

LOL

[leaden rivet]

I just have nothing to say to him.

[trim lily]

he'll simply be stronger

[urban lodge]

So also fighting Akainu feels kinda... redundant?

[graceful belfry]

Pisscord

[hearty shore]

i think aokiji will end up in jail in eos

something like accountability or something

[hot cairn]

I think I'm starting to realize that maybe I dont have faith in Oda...?

[trim lily]

ive got no clue what direction kuzan will go in

[graceful belfry]

If anyone is helping Luffy out against Imu it’ll be the Kobster

[trim lily]

i think im fine with anything as long as he isnt sword or undercover

[leaden rivet]

I don’t know why more people can’t see why Koby vs Akainu is peak

[ornate tartan]

koby definitely is

[leaden rivet]

It’s not even just him possibly kicking his father in laws ass

I can go on about this

[hearty shore]

i fear that the final war arc would basically be a worse ink salad than what we already had in wano/egghead/some elbaf

[grand flower]

you been in here too long

[graceful belfry]

LMAO

[grand flower]

a lot of the doomer no-faith predictions people have on oda is hit he's literally never done

[vernal ravine]

i don' t see a good reason for akainu to fight koby

[leaden rivet]

Well you’re blind

[grand flower]

like the people who doompost about the straw hats being sidelined

[harsh sinew]

Luffy vs imu is narratively the strongest battle that can happen in one piece not luffy vs bb.

[unique lagoon]

been reading long enough to turn into a oda hater

😔

[trim lily]

the strawhats have never been sidelined

[leaden rivet]

Imu fans on their way to pretend like that silhouette is better than Blackbeard

[hot cairn]

cook this fraud @grand flower

drop the essay

[trim lily]

speaking of koby and akainu, oda better canonize hibari being his daughter

or else im doing it

[grand flower]

Thematically, Koby's heart and attempts to be diplomatic toward his enemies contrats Akainu's extremism pretty much 1:1

[harsh sinew]

There is no essay u can drop.

[grand flower]

HOWEVER

[hearty shore]

wait guys i've just realized that the water in the final arc could rise just like the storm in fortnite 😭

[trim lily]

goda

[graceful belfry]

Remove your Nietzsche pfp if you’re gonna argue in favor of silly things

[hearty shore]

in 2:30 water rises again

[hot cairn]

maybe it's that? I feel like I'm becoming a doomer guy for no reason at all, I'm enjoying the way the story is going so I'm confused

[grand flower]

Akainu also has a diplomatic side that people ignore

[trim lily]

this is all in preparation for his fortnite collab

[small ember]

I could see Sabo vs Greenbull solely due to their philosophies clashing hard

[harsh sinew]

bb is demands more exploration before I can take him seriously

[vernal ravine]

fight an actual marine who wants to be admiral vs fight a revolutionarie who is the brother or someone you killed, tell me which do you think makes more sense

[harsh sinew]

And who are u?

[grand flower]

this chat is a really good representation of the phrase "the devil doesn't need advocates" a lot of stuff that gets entertained doesn't even have a reason to be

[leaden rivet]

With a lot of stories the more you think and discuss them the easier you find fault in things

[hearty shore]

nietzsche was neg diffed by a horse iirc

[unique lagoon]

i still cant believe oda made lokis backstory this depressing
almost like trying too hard to make me feel bad for him

[graceful belfry]

If I wasn’t Alexander, I’d be Diogenes

[leaden rivet]

I enjoyed one piece a lot more before I started talking here

[small ember]

Luffy vs BB will be about dreams and will, since they’re foils to each other

[grand flower]

gimme a reason for why imu vs luffy is the strongest and i'll do you one better for luffy vs blackbeard

[trim lily]

especially when we have a week to discuss chapters, it allows us to fester on the bad more than the good

[leaden rivet]

Once you start talking here you absorb all peoples negative feelings about things you hadn’t thought about before

[small ember]

I think I enjoy OP best when I go back and re-read

[grand flower]

and seemingly also refuse to do the same for positive feelings

[small ember]

Weekly is fun though

[leaden rivet]

Yep

[small ember]

But I forget a lot week to week lol

[unique lagoon]

its almost like a parody of the past sob story he made

[leaden rivet]

Which is why we can have an entire week arguing about gunko’s panties

[small ember]

Bc so much happens in a week

[grand flower]

lot of people here only entertain ideas that allow them to continue their negativity because revaluating that your critical lens was wrong is too hawd sometimes ;-;

[trim lily]

personally i think its fine to not love a series as much as you used to

[hearty shore]

she probably hasn't changed them in days

[trim lily]

over time you can have different tastes as you see more media or the story you read changes

[hot cairn]

that's true

[leaden rivet]

That’s true but I think it’s also important to look and see if those negative feelings are yours or just something you feel from others negativity

[trim lily]

yeah its hard to tell

[leaden rivet]

Do you really hate Gunko’s panties? Or do you hate them because people constantly talk about hating them

[hot cairn]

I didnt know that, I think that's why I'm becoming like this maybe I shouldnt be here that much

[harsh sinew]

Its simple I don't have to over analyse it. Bb isn't particularly the center head around the theme of oppression

[unique lagoon]

yeh adds more perspective on how media is made
notice more tropes and cliches also

[small ember]

Also I think taking a break from OP and coming back would be good for a lot of fans

[trim lily]

with stuff like this i think youll have a base dislike of it but itll get pushed to an extreme via constant discussion

[leaden rivet]

Yep

[trim lily]

the more you talk the bigger of an issue you make it out to be

its definitely a fault of her character design to me but its not that big of a problem

[hot cairn]

I still love it, I'm just kinda worried about the future. I would love if OP sticks the landing honestly

[graceful belfry]

I love Gunko’s panties because they make prude’s upset

[leaden rivet]

I find myself continuously getting more negative about one piece when I’m active here, and then when I leave it gets a lot better. But that’s partially because without discussion you don’t notice as many things as others did so it’s not as easy to feel negative about it

[grand flower]

Tbh the problem is generally, a lot of people here don't treat discussion as a vehicle to reevaulate their own thoughts. Constant discussion can be flipped into a good thing when your priority is "i'm going to think about how i've been thinking"

[hearty shore]

I love Gunko’s panties because they make prude’s upset

[unique lagoon]

would be kinda hilarious if ending felt rushed lol

[graceful belfry]

Preach

[grand flower]

as much negativity as i've been exposed to here

my opinion on OP has never soured

[hot cairn]

DROP THE ESSAY @grand flower 🗣️

[vernal ravine]

there is no thematically argument that makes koby vs akainu better than sabo vs akainu, unless you think akainu has 2 fights

[harsh sinew]

There is no essay that won't come off surface

[leaden rivet]

I remember learning that a lot of people in the one piece community absolutely hated which was interesting to me because I thought it was like the best thing ever

[harsh sinew]

Bb is underexecuted so far

[grand flower]

Because I treat exposure to those negative opinions as, this is now something to think about it. When people say "XYZ is bad because," my response is to go "well I thought it was good because ABC, let's compare them"

[small ember]

I can see Koby vs Akainu wayyyyyy more than Sabo

[grand flower]

I never really come out of it hating OP more

Chats like these should be about challenging your own thought processes and giving yourself things to think about

[trim lily]

i dont know if only being positive is better but if thats the way youve found to enjoy it thats fine

[urban lodge]

I think it's better to keep your expectations in check, it's not that you're being a doomer but no author is perfect and endings in particular are really hard to write

[leaden rivet]

However, one thing I’ve always hated on, regardless of any discussion is Usopp. It’s almost beautiful.

He’s like my one and only

[hot cairn]

the thing is, this didnt happen to me during Wano and Egghead. It just started with the GV flashback, maybe I'm a little burned out? Idk or maybe the weekly expirience is taking it's toll on me

[small ember]

Yeah OP’s ending will feed discourse for years lol

[harsh sinew]

Even the best analyses I have seen on him rounded up to him been an absurdist. And im still shaky on it. Oda needs to write more

[trim lily]

i keep telling myself this but its really hard not to have expectations in a series like this lol

[urban lodge]

Yeah I agree

[trim lily]

such a vast world opens yourself up to thinking about a lot more possibilities

[grand flower]

Oda has said he defines OP as a pirate story, meaning a story about adventure. The central theme of oppression can be handled by having Dragon's role as a freedom fighter and great liberator pay off with him stopping Imu

Luffy's freedom vs Blackbeard's freedom is the true central conflict

[leaden rivet]

I feel like there’s just way too many sides of extremes

[hot cairn]

that's true

[leaden rivet]

Like you have the doomers (me during god valley) and then you have the people that defend anything Oda does