#also-manga

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keen quiver
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Imu was an obstacle to their birthright

stone tulip
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The way this unironically true 😭

thick mango
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i dont think he sees it like that

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i dont think hes doing it for anyone else

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or to honor anyone else

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i think its just the pinnacle of his conception of freedom to be king of the world

blazing depot
keen quiver
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I'm literally saying he's using the plan to make himself king for selfish reasons

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Wanting to be king of the world is selfish

thick mango
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then yeah we're on the same page

keen quiver
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Hes pursuing his own freedom

stone tulip
keen quiver
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He doesnt care how it affects others

thick mango
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im just saying its not about revenge for the father or a duty as a davy or anything like that. Its all about hsi own selfish goals

keen quiver
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Rocks was also selfish

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Same as davy jones

thick mango
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he was less selfish

rich hornet
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I’m guessing Eris is the one who pressured Teech to board the moby dick

thick mango
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he went to god valley knowing he was probably gonna die

keen quiver
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Davy jones is so greedy peoppe still remember that

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To this day

stone tulip
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Or maybe she is dead too

grand flower
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Like Blackbeard doesn’t care who he has to cross and kill and rob and do dirty

thick mango
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3 possibilities with eris

  1. she sent teach on his quest
  2. she died
  3. she lived but bb abandoned her.
    I prefer 3 > 2 > 1
grand flower
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He’s on a crusade for the Davy

thick mango
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i think hes on a crusade for himself

grand flower
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Those aren’t mutually exclusive

thick mango
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but theres not really enough to know yet this is all pretty speculative

rich hornet
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But where does a kid get that kind of conviction

grand flower
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Eris could have told him about the Davys history and that in itself could have inflated his head into believing this is all meant for him

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Blackbeard being motivated by his lineage is already likely

thick mango
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i jus tthink it would be very nice for bb's character if eris didnt send him on any sort of davy revenge quest, she just wanted him to have a safe normal happy life and he rejected that

grand flower
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Devon mentioned it to Saturn

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It’s not irrelevant to him

thick mango
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in a world where so many people lose loving parents, it would be perfect for bb to throw away a loving mother

grand flower
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His ship is named after rocks too

vernal ravine
grand flower
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Can’t do nothing but get ready for it now

grand flower
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He and rocks are on the same crusade

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But teach has his own methods

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And he’s much more heartless about it

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I can see that easy

rich hornet
thick mango
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we've only got like 2 panels i think its hard to say

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i wont lie when it comes to really speculative territory like that im reverse engineering endings i think would be good

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and i think it would be good for bb's character to have abandoned his mother and killed his adoptive father. To throw away love and family in a pursuit of power

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bb killing thatch and whitebeard is maybe the most heartless thing in the entire story

dense haven
vernal ravine
rich hornet
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Either way it plays out, BB didn’t figure out his whole plan from nothing, he must have gotten some info from his mom. And from what we see of Eris, she is fully on board the Davy crusade. I don’t think she gave it up to give Teach a happy life. I think she would double down

still mason
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I see this and it doesn't make me think he abandoned his mother

thick mango
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maybe i just dont think thats very much to draw conclusions from

soft tangle
thick mango
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but bb is clearly willing to go further, do worse, to achieve his goals than rocks was

rich hornet
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They share a goal

woven talon
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voted jinbe today

dense haven
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rocks would be disappointed with him

thick mango
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wouldnt it be nice for rocks to have forfeited his goals for his family and for bb to forfeit his family for his goals. He already kinda has with wb even if theres nothing with eris

dense haven
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rocks didn't forfeit his goals

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he couldn't have done anything anyway

rich hornet
thick mango
grand flower
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Rocks even said he felt like he was gonna die

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He made a choice

woven talon
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Oda tends to depict greatness in a specific way. I think even if he wanted to live a quiet life, Oda wouldn't have a character like Rocks back down from his goal.

vernal ravine
woven talon
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The point of the flashback was to contrast two friends who are torn apart due to their steadfastness in their beliefs and willingness to sacrifice anything to their ends

blazing depot
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Like this ain’t the look of a killer

thick mango
woven talon
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The only real diffrence between Haralad and Rocks is one had more understanding of what the World Government was.

grand flower
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Rocks challenging Imu on Me Valley while knowing he wasn’t ready

Rocks choosing to go help his family even though he felt like he was gonna die

blazing depot
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Also I think it’s a good rule of thumb that villains who aren’t insanely evil still love their moms

grand flower
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That’s rocks choosing his family over his goals

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In a way, he gave them up

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Rocks knew he was fucked

rich hornet
still mason
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I don't know where the theory comes from

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BB slander Uso

grand flower
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Eris was probably killed

vernal ravine
vital heart
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GUYS I GOT 1177 LEAKS

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WHO WANNA SEE

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is what id say if i got 1177 leaks

woven talon
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BB is the dark timeline Luffy I think. Their dads were both revolutionaries (in a sense). Both had clearly lonely early childhoods, both were inspired to go to sea and pursue a more appealing and fun life. I think the largest diffrence is Luffy's dad is alive and Luffy really couldn't care less about the dad he never had because he found another dad in Shanks. BB was already too far into his obsession by the time WB picked him up. He was already plotting. I think if I had to guess, BB feels his dad had the right goal, but he didn't go far enough, that he compromised too much. Rocks and co were clearly strong enough to force Harald to go along with them. Oda shows the scene where we see Rocks punch out Kaido for suggesting that. BB wouldn't let the happiness and safety of a friend stop him. BB doesn't have friends. He has whims and desires and tools to reach them.

hot cairn
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Elbaph is getting dragged on twitter dang

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even youtubers are hating on it

woven talon
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all i've seen on twitter today is YuGiOh being used as war propaganda

thick mango
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i dont respect the opinion of anyone i cant back and forth with to understand why they think that way

woven talon
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I'd trade places and see your twitter any day

woven talon
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my feed seems less wholesome

vital heart
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I deleted twitter in january

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Best decision to date.

hot cairn
thick mango
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elbaf is alright

vital heart
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btw chapter 1178 we see domi reversi loki

thick mango
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i prefer egghead

formal wagon
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elbarf

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so they say

vital heart
woven talon
thick mango
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the two cutaway sections of egghead are maybe the best sequence of chapters in the story

rich hornet
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Egghead was so good

hot cairn
urban lodge
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Egghead cutaways were a legendary weekly experience

hot cairn
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it's not as entertaining weekly as egghead tho

honest garden
urban lodge
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The fact that it started with 1079

woven talon
rich hornet
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Elbaph has high highs and still has a chance to stick the landing

hot cairn
rich hornet
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Egghead was more consistently good

woven talon
honest garden
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Elbaf just needs a big battle I think

woven talon
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not my fault

urban lodge
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Those hachinosu chapters are some of my favorite in the series

hot cairn
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eghead was just so fun weekly

honest garden
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Lol

rich hornet
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It doesn’t even make sense

hot cairn
honest garden
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Now that I've seen it and read it nobody else is allowed.

woven talon
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there now you know lol

honest garden
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Thank you feeso

vernal ravine
hot cairn
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although I get the complaints some people here have with egghead

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but I still think it's good

vernal ravine
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peak flashback don't care what anyone says

urban lodge
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I don't really think Egghead had any real lows, the closest thing was the VP speech but that was only rough weekly

hot cairn
urban lodge
hot cairn
rich hornet
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Egghead has been the best weekly experience since I caught up in PH

hot cairn
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rereading it in a binge was peak

urban lodge
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I didn't even mind it weekly

hot cairn
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I wouldnt say Elbaph is bad tho

rich hornet
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I wouldn’t either

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It’s been a little weird I guess

vernal ravine
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that streak of chapters outside of egghead with kid garp reverie, you just have to be there

formal wagon
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what if i wasn't there

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will i be okay

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whats going to happen to me

hot cairn
hot cairn
formal wagon
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this is going to sound very smart but i think this isn't the real saul. he was replaced by a clone

hot cairn
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I remember

formal wagon
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phew

urban lodge
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I think it's been really good for the most part, it's only the flashback that I have some issues with

formal wagon
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fraud valley more like

dense haven
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dog valley

thick mango
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I didn't like the resolution to reversi this chapter but it's not over yet so maybe it'll change my mind in the future

dawn gazelle
dense haven
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I warned everyone we should've skipped elbaf

urban lodge
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I'm not a fan either but like Shuron said they're probably getting reversi'd again anyway so I'll hold judgement

ashen rose
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But it'd be a cool thing tbh

hot cairn
thick mango
ashen rose
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Literal bossfight

urban lodge
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I think my favorite thing about Elbaf is the cast, it's one of the best we've had

hot cairn
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yeah the cast is pretty good

ashen rose
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Yeah, Loki and Ida are amazing

hot cairn
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better than Egghead's I would say

dense haven
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loki carrying the arc

formal wagon
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best cast we had was drum

austere flint
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True

dawn gazelle
formal wagon
ashen rose
formal wagon
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noland flashback soon anyhow

ashen rose
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This is one piece bro

urban lodge
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Hajrudin gotta get that sword somehow

ashen rose
vernal ravine
ashen rose
vernal ravine
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elbaph is very good you just have recency bias

formal wagon
ashen rose
dawn gazelle
urban lodge
formal wagon
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if elbaf goes the way i concieved 30 chapters ago it will be the best arc since egghead

ashen rose
formal wagon
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and i dont say that lightly.

hot cairn
hot cairn
ashen rose
ashen rose
hot cairn
vernal ravine
ashen rose
formal wagon
# hot cairn in what way did you concieved it?

noland flashback -> brook dies -> usopp dies -> eustass comes back -> sanji dies -> chopper awakens -> imu dies -> brook comes back - usopp lied about his death -> loki lied about his life so he dies -> rocks comes back -> sanji dies -> loki/ lola flashback -> usopp lies loki back to life in an emotional climax to the elbaf saga

hot cairn
hot cairn
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some people arent built for the weekly expirience I guess

formal wagon
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-> "we're off to the land of my dreams, VIRA!!!"

ashen perch
hot cairn
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but I understand coming after egghead's

dense rapids
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Imu will summon the holy knights to repeat God Valley as he takes over Gunko

formal wagon
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she bias on my recency till i WT100 2026 top 20 characters

ashen perch
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Mailbox why do you exist

formal wagon
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why do you exist

hot cairn
ashen perch
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No you can no you me

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Cant

formal wagon
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she bias on my recency till i WT100 2025 top 20 characters

ruby moat
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Vira vs Yano who wins

formal wagon
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*2026

urban lodge
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Yano

formal wagon
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a thousand curses

ruby moat
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Ok, now with no heals in between rounds

formal wagon
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a thousand curses

hot cairn
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Elbaph is a good arc, is it the best in the final saga? Um debatable

formal wagon
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do they have lucio speedboost or a mercy pocket?

urban lodge
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Yano is just funnier I'm sorry

ashen perch
formal wagon
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yano is an industry plant

ruby moat
formal wagon
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huh

ruby moat
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(Raccoon)

ashen perch
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Not that I would even agree that the recent chapters have been that

formal wagon
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huh

ashen perch
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I have liked them

hot cairn
formal wagon
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last two chapters were fire

vernal ravine
snow locust
ruby moat
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Elbaf will officially be the best final saga arc once usopps moment happens but until then it sucks

dense haven
thick mango
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elbaf is mid imo. And i dont mean that like bad like some people do i mean literally mid

dense haven
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arsal talking like he also wasn't dragging elbaf thru the mud

ashen perch
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Well you can mark it as the best already then cause its happening

hot cairn
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I think the only "peak" chapters we've had since the flashback ended was 1171 and 1175

snow locust
# hot cairn Egghead

I'd have to reread Elbaf from the beginning but I'd say I probably? liked Egghead more

formal wagon
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arsal talking like eustasspeepotalk

formal wagon
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egghead has lucci

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so..................

ruby moat
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He could show up to Elbaf

ruby moat
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Arcs not over šŸ—£ļø

ashen perch
thick mango
formal wagon
# ruby moat He could show up to Elbaf

this genuinely actually for real /unsilly made me feel hope in my heart for a brief moment not kidding actually illicited a real emotion from me objectively

ashen perch
sturdy steeple
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I do think Elbaf is the arc where fans have to lower their expectations.

formal wagon
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elbaf is just vira set up

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objectively

ruby moat
hot cairn
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early elbaph was pure GAS

dense haven
ashen perch
sturdy steeple
# hot cairn wdym

Oda sets up a lot of things that the fans are excited about and the result is... Debatable.

royal orchid
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hello also manga

dawn gazelle
ashen perch
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Raise your expectations

ruby moat
formal wagon
sturdy steeple
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Ayyy listen I'm raising my expectations only about certain characters that I know will deliver

sturdy steeple
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But for others it's not like that

royal orchid
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also manga is saying elbaf fell off TamaHuh

hot cairn
formal wagon
formal wagon
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im so mad

sturdy steeple
# hot cairn like what?

Dude, really? Like the Rocks flashback, God Valley, the domi-reversi solution, Usopp (so far)

formal wagon
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im fuming

sturdy steeple
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Etc etc etc

dawn gazelle
royal orchid
hot cairn
ashen perch
hot cairn
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yeah God Valley was kinda disappointing to me

hot cairn
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I still believe in Usopp tho

royal orchid
sturdy steeple
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Like at this point you kinda have to lower your expectations because Oda likes to take simple routes.

formal wagon
hot cairn
formal wagon
ashen perch
royal orchid
formal wagon
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i forgot to add the second part after the hi meeks part

royal orchid
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big fight: the arc

formal wagon
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WOW nonachalantly leaning back. now im even madder

hot cairn
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I do think Egghead > Elbaph AS OF TODAY

urban lodge
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I don't believe in Usopp and that's good because anything he does get will be a pleasant surprise

formal wagon
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golly darn

hot cairn
formal wagon
sturdy steeple
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One has to wonder if Oda is deliberately having Usopp do nothing at the moment.

hot cairn
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I think you need to be ready for the arc potenitally ending in 20 chapters arsal

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that way you wont be that disappointed

formal wagon
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anyway, you guys think we're gonna see the egghead timeskip anytime soon :D :D :D : D

sturdy steeple
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I only wish Usopp fans the best tbh

ruby moat
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Return to Wano next arc

hot cairn
dawn gazelle
hot cairn
formal wagon
formal wagon
ruby moat
royal orchid
ruby moat
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But the only way to get there is to return to Wano

royal orchid
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Yamato flashback (3)*

formal wagon
ruby moat
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There’s a secret lever that needs to be pulled to open the gate to vira and it’s only found in Wano

sturdy steeple
ashen perch
# hot cairn that way you wont be that disappointed

I just dont like this mindset, ngl. There's "don't expect too much" and there's "expect virtually nothing" and that is what most of these takes fall into. No I won't be keeping my expectations lower than the abyss

sturdy steeple
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This guy is gonna say "Oda sucks" at the end

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Trust me

grand flower
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Kid returns in 2 chapters

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here's the proof

sturdy steeple
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God I hope so

vernal ravine
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with the same number of chapters we have in elbaph at this point in wano we weren't even in onigashima QueenKEKW

hot cairn
formal wagon
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gee golly thats great news frankly

hot cairn
ashen perch
dawn gazelle
sturdy steeple
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Dude I think you really need to work on context clues
Yes, Arsal

hot cairn
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my bad

ashen perch
formal wagon
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insane fold

sturdy steeple
ashen perch
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Its a miserable way of experiencing the series, that is why I dislike the mindset

sturdy steeple
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Also, to each their own.

ashen perch
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Perpetual downer, doommaxxing

formal wagon
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keeping expectations at the ground is sad actually i agree with arsal

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thats not fun

hot cairn
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saying the arc can end in 20 chapters aint "doommaxxing"

ashen perch
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I was moreso thinking of the Usopp thing you said Jesus

hot cairn
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hey, I'll gladly take the L if you're right about 100 elbaph chapters

sturdy steeple
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It's also miserable to expect things end on the high note only to be left unsatisfied.

ashen perch
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That his big time to shine is just one thing in one chapter

urban lodge
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I don't think it's even possible to satisfyingly wrap it up in 20 chapters

ornate tartan
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if it doesn’t end within 25 chapters I will be shocked

sturdy steeple
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Like it's not a big deal. People should just chill out a bit.

vernal ravine
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i don't see usopp using ragnir as a ir fairly expectation right now feels more like a wet dream

prisma idol
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Arsal you expect things to go bad again correct?

sturdy steeple
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Not at all what? Are you speaking on the behalf of everyone? LUL

hot cairn
prisma idol
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Like a roller-coaster up and down, where everything is currently going too well there will be a downturn

sturdy steeple
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Isn't that obvious though

formal wagon
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domi reversi'd eustass will kill a strawhat probably

sturdy steeple
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Otherwise Imu won't really seem like a threat

ruby moat
ornate tartan
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final arc sagas not named the final war or laughtale won’t reach the 100 chapter threshold

formal wagon
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hopefully the captain guy but anyone works

prisma idol
ashen perch
formal wagon
ruby moat
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Good Dsmn bangs

prisma idol
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That with everything going well the arc is going to end sooner rather than later

ornate tartan
ruby moat
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Holy typos

sturdy steeple
formal wagon
prisma idol
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Imu hasnt locked in yet

grand flower
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@ashen perch

When Kid attacks Shanks’ fleet at Elbaf, Shanks has 9 ships present and 9 officers in his main crew.

When depicting the Kid Pirates in the SBS, Oda reveals that there are 31 members total but he only draws 22 of them; 9 ard omitted.

Kid is defeated at Elbaf which contains Yggdrasil; Yggdrasil is connected to 9 Realms in the Norse myth. 9 is also featured prominently in the Norse myth: with Thor taking 9 steps backwards before dying to the Jormungandr’s venom. Odin is hung for 9 days and 9 nights from Yggdrasil when sacrificing himself to himself. Odin’s ring makes 8 new copies every 9 nights, bringing the rings to a set of 9 each time. Heimdall has 9 mothers, Aegir has 9 daughters. I also saw something saying Frigg mourns Baldur for 9 days; these are the result of the number 9 being used for ā€œmanyā€ or to indicate ā€œa complete set of,ā€ it appears.

But there’s also Kid’s secondary Jolly Roger, a Glasgow smile that contains 9 spikes. It also strongly resembles sun symbolism that’s been seen/associated with the Elbaf giants, who ofc worship the Sun God.

Speaking of the Sun God, Luffy has 9 officers just like Kid does. The bounty of Kid, Law and Luffy post-Wano was determined by combining Kaido’s and Big Mom’s into 9 billion then dividing it by 3. Kid’s very first bounty of 315,000,000 can be added up into 9

ruby moat
sturdy steeple
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But if it ends this way then Imu is ahem ahem washed.

ruby moat
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Oh my

ornate tartan
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there is absolutely no way something doesn’t flip within the next 2-3 chapters

grand flower
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The cover of Chapter 1012 features Kid with an apron that contains the number ā€œ99.ā€ It also curiously contains the text ā€œ3Dā€ on it, which is evocative of the 3D2Y event from Sabaody that Kid’s defeat in Elbaf very blatantly mirrors. The metal bird that Kid creates bears the number 81; 8+1=9.

Kid also bears a tattoo in chapter 795 that resembles both the number 9 and a tattoo that one of the giants has in Egghead

Getting a bit silly now: Oda drew the PokĆ©mon Meltan in Kid’s attacks in Wano, whose special ability is ā€œmagnet pull.ā€ Meltan’s evolution Melmetal is PokĆ©mon #809 and its ability is Iron Fist. Also if you put any stock into the ā€œKid is a Vegapunkā€ theory: Kid would be the 9th physical body to bear the name so to speak after Vegapunk, his 6 Satellites, and the Megapunk combination that’s created after the Egghead incident.

The last part isn’t that serous imo, but I do think that it’s curious that Kid has the number 9 pop up so much with him or can be derived from numbers associated with him; especially in relation to Shanks, Luffy and Elbaf.

@ashen perch

ruby moat
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Oh my

ashen perch
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X2

prisma idol
grand flower
ruby moat
sturdy steeple
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grand flower
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1079+99=1178

prisma idol
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I do think a lot of people are underestimating Imu because of the weakness of DR and the fact that the HKs honestly havent had the best showing + the Gorosei in egghead not handling that situation as well as some people wanted

formal wagon
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fuck those are numbers

sturdy steeple
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Because if you do so then Morj mentality happens

grand flower
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Kid returns in 1178

formal wagon
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thank you

ashen perch
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1178, I'm sold

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Its happening

formal wagon
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wait....

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WAIT

prisma idol
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Kidd is at Mato's bar healing

ruby moat
grand flower
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3D like 3D2Y and 99% for 99 chapters

grand flower
formal wagon
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what are the last two digits of the chapter that is ONE (ONE) single chapter AFTER 1178. What do those digits remind you of?????

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100 chapters

ruby moat
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67?

hot cairn
formal wagon
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1079

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the chapter of doom

ruby moat
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Oh

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where one piece went wrong

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oda will fix it on 1179

thick mango
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1079 was peak

hot cairn
ashen perch
hot cairn
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I'm just chilling

ruby moat
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The day the music died

hot cairn
thick mango
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1079 was good for kid

hot cairn
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I'm not avery

ashen perch
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Sorry can I not even say 6 and 7 anymore 😭

hot cairn
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where'a avery btw, havent seen her in a while

ashen perch
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I genuinely believe

ashen perch
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It'll be clear in that amount of chapters

formal wagon
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sorry

sturdy steeple
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I kinda like the idea of Kid and Luffy teaming up against domi-reversi Loki

hot cairn
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me too

formal wagon
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kid will just one shot him that would be boring

thick mango
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i dont really feel like kid has any stakes in loki that would make that satisfying.

sturdy steeple
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TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUE

ashen perch
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Mailbox. Okay what do I even say that isnt in the automod list

thick mango
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it would just be like a.. oh and kid is here too!

ruby moat
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Kidd is one of those hooded figures in the underworld tjat were shown a total of one times

sturdy steeple
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I mean that was kind of the gist with Law fighting against Big Mom

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He was there to just accompany

hot cairn
ashen perch
thick mango
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she was among the kaido forces that law had been allying with luffy since like dressrosa to take down

sturdy steeple
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She wasn't among the Kaido forces.

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She joined him at the very last minute.

thick mango
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those statements contradict each other

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she was among kaido'

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s forces at the end when it mattered

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she was one of many forces standing in the way of defeating kaido

sturdy steeple
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Law had nothing really to do with Big Mom. I'm just drawing an example of people having to step up to accomplish something without being invested beforehand.

grand flower
thick mango
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law had to do with kaido and big mom had to do with kaido

sturdy steeple
grand flower
thick mango
sturdy steeple
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She wasn't among Kaido's forces at any point. She was his rival to begin with.

grand flower
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And Law needed to get past Big Mom to get the info he needed for his goal

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Kid sank her ships and robbed her people

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That’s the background for them fighting her

sturdy steeple
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That is true but he wasn't really that much of invested in fighting her. It's an example I'm giving to why Kid can safely fight Loki.

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At this point of the story, you can just expect strong lads to join forces with other strong lads to defeat common enemies.

hot cairn
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I reread WCI these last few days and I can see why people didnt want Law and Kid to win against BM

sturdy steeple
#

Loki being domi-reversi would mean hell for all lol

hot cairn
#

Luffy said he was coming back to defeat her like 5 times

grand flower
#

Just like Blackbeard, Kid’s initial bounty after the time skip says ā€œghost of Jonahā€

#

Rocks/Davy would be the thread between kid and Loki

hot cairn
#

but I still her defeat in Wano still works

grand flower
#

Unless Loki has met kid while out at sea or something

#

Or kid knows giants

ashen perch
# hot cairn what will happen in that amount of chapters

We'll be in volume 116 starting from 1178, that's when I believe Imu will start to become the focus. I think by the halfway point of the volume, i.e 7 ish chapters from now he'll have completely flipped back everything that we have seen resolved so far and won.

grand flower
#

Haha

#

Yes!

sturdy steeple
#

Kid knew about the man marked by flames long before others

thick mango
#

how confident are you in 1178 kid? Would you wanna bet?

grand flower
ashen perch
#

Well, they do but rarely

formal wagon
#

will we find out vegapunks family name is eustass?

#

this arc?

#

how many chapters till we get that reveal

sturdy steeple
#

Money? Only losers would bet money. Bet your lives.

formal wagon
thick mango
formal wagon
#

id bet money agaisnt a charity

ashen perch
#

I'm betting Meek's soul on this, Volume 116 is the Volume of Imu

grand flower
#

You pick the charity if I win

#

Wait no

thick mango
#

yeah the other way lol

grand flower
#

Yeah

ashen perch
#

But yea, 116, watch for it, significant number

grand flower
sturdy steeple
#

Is it because of 16 being significant

thick mango
hot cairn
#

that sounds good

ashen perch
hot cairn
#

your ideas arent bad arsal I just feel like you overestimate oda a bit too much

sturdy steeple
#

Kid appears and we go on another break

hot cairn
#

sometimes

sturdy steeple
#

I would crashout ngl

hot cairn
#

I'll be glad to be wrong tho

grand flower
ashen perch
#

I'm not really, I think I'm just not underestimating lol

#

I'm right in the middle in fact, remember when I told y'all to not overhype yourself for God Valley...

#

Nobody listened smh

ashen perch
#

I didn't and I think I ended up liking it more than most people tbh, especially the further we move on from it, the more I like it

sturdy steeple
#

But why would you say that, Arsal

#

Isn't that miserable......

grand flower
#

We got Garp, Kaido AND big mom haters eating shit

trim lily
#

the moral of the story is always set your expectations low so you’ll always be pleasantly surprised limesNodders

hot cairn
grand flower
ashen perch
hot cairn
ashen perch
grand flower
ashen perch
#

Wrong reply

grand flower
#

Nah right reply

sturdy steeple
formal wagon
#

....

ashen perch
#

Keeper you said to keep your expectations low for Elbaf

formal wagon
#

elipses extension

ashen perch
#

I'm not sure how else to interpret it

sturdy steeple
#

I said to lower expectations

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Which is fair

trim lily
hot cairn
#

and not enjoying the story

ashen perch
#

It is doommaxxing

trim lily
#

it is a little

thick mango
#

i think elbaf has a lot of good locked in already. Even fumbling the ending itd still end up at like B- at worst

formal wagon
trim lily
#

but i think a little doomfisting here and there is fine

sturdy steeple
#

It's a decent arc

sturdy steeple
trim lily
formal wagon
hot cairn
#

it is a decent arc

formal wagon
#

i stopped playing him cause i forgot how to

ashen perch
#

Too early to tell...

formal wagon
#

what am i anymore

trim lily
#

he’ll come back as a dps in a year anywya

hot cairn
#

it's not better than egghead tho SO FAR

formal wagon
#

elipses extension

thick mango
#

egghead is really good thats a high ba r

formal wagon
#

thank me later

thick mango
#

egghead is like an A+, just short of S

trim lily
sturdy steeple
#

At the end of the day

formal wagon
#

dusk

hot cairn
thick mango
#

a few small changes and egghead might have been the best

hot cairn
sturdy steeple
#

I'm saying simple things but I'm getting slapped with HYPOCRISY

trim lily
#

i had a horrendous weekly experience with egghead so elbaf has been better for me overall

formal wagon
#

last 8 chapters of egghead were so dooky fart

ashen perch
# ashen perch Too early to tell...

I have mostly liked what I have seen so far, but we're only 50% through with it. That's like judging Dressrosa before Luffy even confronted Doflamingo.

hot cairn
sturdy steeple
#

The first part of Egghead weekly wise was pretty fun

trim lily
#

for your sake arsal i kind of hope you end up being right

sturdy steeple
#

Elbaf is a curve

trim lily
#

you’re waging a lot on this arc going to like 110 chapters

hot cairn
sturdy steeple
#

I wasn't enjoying the Rocks portion that much and now it feels reeallyyyyyyyy long for some reason.

ashen perch
#

But we're not

hot cairn
hot cairn
ashen perch
#

My comparison still stands anyways

woven talon
#

wow oda's hero worship of Toiyama is crazyy

ashen perch
#

It doesnt matter

woven talon
#

"I went to Nagoya, the land where god resides."

#

that's wildddd

hot cairn
ashen perch
#

Yeah he has called him that multiple times

hot cairn
#

what if there's no secret second part

sturdy steeple
hot cairn
#

what do you think of the arc then

ashen perch
#

You'll find out? I don't know what to tell you man

#

I'm not in contact with this unlikely alternative timeline Arsal or something

trim lily
#

bad timeline arsal at 40 years old

distant vine
#

Guys I think we officialy hit the "Elbaph sucks I cant wait for the next arc" in the fandom cycle

#

Not completely but its festering fr now

ashen perch
#

The fandom suffers from collective amnesia every arc, nothing new

trim lily
#

mm not quite yet i think but this chapter put a damper on things for a lot of people

#

but this could just be a case of doomposting about a chapter only for it to be resolved in one or two and we forget about it

distant vine
#

I think once Luffy gets deep into his fight the doom will start up

sturdy steeple
#

This one stands out yeah

woven talon
#

lmaooooooo

#

oda after 11 chapters

#

"man this is hard, how do the pros do this" .... now 30 years later of being weekly

distant vine
#

God Valley was less than I expected

#

But Elbaph is more than I expected

#

So it evens out

hot cairn
#

chapter 1176

trim lily
#

the flashback would’ve been so good if xebec wasn’t in it

#

but what’s done is done

ashen perch
#

Chapter 1010

#

Wano

distant vine
hot cairn
#

that wasnt it

#

it was later on

ashen perch
#

I like the chapter but its the exact chapter where the fandom started to dislike the arc

sturdy steeple
#

Man I envy that you guys can remember what the hell happened during those chapters

trim lily
#

do any of us remember the weekly experience from back then

hot cairn
ashen perch
#

ACoC was seen as an absolutely ridiculous powerup

#

As soon as it happened

trim lily
#

and it still is TRUE

ashen perch
#

Its not actually but regardless

trim lily
#

can you confirm or deny arsal’s allegations

sturdy steeple
#

ACoC is basically what I mean when I say that Oda prefers to take simple routes

ashen perch
#

Some of its grifting

#

Engagement bait, all that

trim lily
#

one piece fans on twitter Classic

ashen perch
#

But just as many are serious lol

sturdy steeple
hot cairn
vital heart
ashen perch
#

Every big account posted that the whole crew did something this chapter aside from Usopp

formal wagon
#

twitter 😭

vital heart
#

i forget which one it was though

vital heart
sturdy steeple
ashen perch
#

And now we're here at this discourse

ashen perch
vital heart
#

Yup

ashen perch
#

Not controversial tbh

vital heart
#

Nika intro

#

Nah it was at the time

#

You musta forgot

distant vine
#

And he wasnt getting COC

trim lily
#

hey they weren’t fully wrong

ashen perch
#

I don't think it really was, but mainly because there was a level of denial in the fanbase

trim lily
#

he didn’t really get it until now

ashen perch
#

Nika wasn't controversial, but what WW said about his DF was

distant vine
#

I remember the Iva4Wano nonsense

#

The Oden is alive nonsense

mighty shell
#

enel WILL be on wano

distant vine
#

Other than that not much actually

sturdy steeple
#

Moria on Wano

distant vine
#

Yup Enel on Wano

hot cairn
#

I remember the Moria was coming to Wano followers

trim lily
#

how could it not be him

sturdy steeple
#

I bet with some dude over it and he got banned beforehand

ashen perch
ashen perch
#

I agree

sturdy steeple
#

It's probably intentional

trim lily
#

it might be

ashen perch
#

I mentioned this as soon as the chapter came out, its definitely intentional

sturdy steeple
#

I still think of that line Luffy tells to Usopp in Legoland

hot cairn
sturdy steeple
#

Like "you could've handled him on your own"

ashen perch
#

Plans changed

#

Thats all

mighty shell
hot cairn
mighty shell
#

dunno why but i trust the author of my favorite series

trim lily
#

i HATE one piece and oda is my enemy

hot cairn
sturdy steeple
#

I would love for Oda to not neglect Usopp though despite his future ideas

#

Like it's good and all but that sets up big expectations then

hot cairn
#

that’s the thing

sturdy steeple
#

But what has he really done so far lol

hot cairn
#

what exactly has been Oda neglecting Usopp from

sturdy steeple
#

You see glimpses of setup

hot cairn
ashen perch
#

Terrible

distant vine
mighty shell
#

i do kinda think if there are usopp character moments ahead oda should have planted those seeds earlier

sturdy steeple
mighty shell
#

otherwise they'll come off kinda meaningless

#

but i don't doubt they'll happen

mighty shell
#

usually i can see when oda intends to do stuff with the straw hats like when franky chased after lilith i was like ok franky's getting a vegapunk upgrade

sturdy steeple
#

It's funny because he did plant seeds but like 20 years ago

#

Regarding Usopp and his respect for Elbaf warriors

vital heart
#

FUCK MY LIFE

#

FUCKKKKKK

grand flower
grand flower
sturdy steeple
#

I do think Usopp will make Loki his friend

grand flower
#

Fuck Meeks life

sturdy steeple
#

Idk if that's a hot take

grand flower
#

Usopp is gonna set loki straight

mighty shell
sturdy steeple
#

Yep

hot cairn
trim lily
sturdy steeple
#

But him and Loki are really similar so I really want to see it.

sturdy steeple
#

Actually no, I don't think I care....

formal wagon
#

so tuff

hot cairn
#

Cuh

trim lily
woven talon
#

how have I never noticed this????

trim lily
#

his iconic nipples

woven talon
#

I mean it's a single frame

#

but bleh

mighty shell
formal wagon
grand flower
trim lily
#

DD thanks for the positive reinforcement

#

we have such a supportive community here

grand flower
#

I do my part

woven talon
hot cairn
woven talon
#

man this makes me even mader at the Jelloapocalyse Rage bait video

#

Oda has tonnes of comments thanking his assitants

#

and promoting their work

#

literally how dare!

#

bro says oda would rather die than credit his assistants

woven talon
#

Greg's old site

woven talon
#

it's the easiest way to check these older ones

woven talon
hot cairn
#

A group of One Piece fans have announced that the hunt is on, and they're starting an expedition to Japan to search for the real treasure author Oda hid in the ocean.

Fans are begging them to destroy the One Piece if they find it so the secret stays safe until the manga is over.

#

imagine if we get spoiled because of a group of idiots

mighty shell
#

that jello apocalypse video was so weird it felt like ragebait for the sake of clicks rather than lighthearted poking fun. his jojo's video was poking fun and it was silly

ruby moat
mighty shell
#

i'd say he's washed but he's always been washed

ornate tartan
#

they are going to read it then destroy itšŸ˜‚

#

if they can understand japanese

woven talon
#

marketing stunts really work on ppl huh

#

and so began the great weeb era!

west axle
#

how you guys think thoos arc gonna end

formal wagon
#

but if i had to guess loki eats someone

#

imu possibly

#

and eustass comes back

west axle
#

most probably

formal wagon
#

yeah

#

i wonder how many chaps itll be till we see loki's hybrid

#

i feel like oda might hide it for a long time like he did with the other "dragon"

woven talon
#

Lol Kishimoto challenges Oda to a game of Tekken in one of his comments

#

Also apprantly Oda bought him an action figure as a souviner when he visted america

#

I love these notes

#

You Toei fiends is hilarious

stray prism
woven talon
#

man I wanan find the Japanese for these

#

I really really wish someone digitzied every issue of jump from like the 70s to now

#

it's so hard to source things

#

I was trying to find out the other day when the One Piece logo would've debuted

#

I thought it might not have until volume 1 of the manga

#

I didn't realize this but the volumes remove the logo

woven talon
#

this one random facebook post confirmed to me that chapter 2 infact had the logo at publication

#

I kinda convinced myself that the cover page design just changed at some point lol

#

because I haven't got many later Japanese volumes

#

I wish we could just have access to all the WSJ versions easier tho

hot cairn
lofty fern
blazing depot
#

Insane thing to flex lol

lofty fern
#

You get enough rich people on it, they'll find it

blazing depot
#

I think Ishow is doing a search

#

Ishow is what my older sister calls him QueenKEKW

formal wagon
#

woah that twitter user's mom's friend's niece is in one piece

blazing depot
#

I think most people’s families have some sort of connection to a famous person

#

I think for mine my sister worked with Benjamin Bratt once

blazing depot
#

WHICH IS MORE LIKELY?

Kid comes back
Usopp character development
Lunami

woven talon
#
  1. Usopp development
#

Idk about during Elbaf

#

But you didn’t specify

blazing depot
#

Yasopp reunion is guaranteed

woven talon
#
  1. kid return
#

3 ) Lunami

trim lily
#

mhm all 3 equally likely

blazing depot
#

Even Lunami

trim lily
#

yes

#

depending on how you view these this can be a good or bad thing

celest mauve
#

I have like no confidence in usopp being written well, and kid returning... joelmao

lofty fern
#

I think it will be almost 100 chapters soon since he was sent underwater

celest mauve
alpine trench
#

I’m not even mad lmfao

#

Just chose a weird gif to reply with

celest mauve
#

like crazy mad, not angry mad

proud pivot
#

Harsh has gone full on brainrot

alpine trench
#

Tis how it goes now

proud pivot
#

Harsh ullu

alpine trench
#

Yeah ullu ka patha

proud pivot
#

What does ka patha mean

#

I only know ullu

alpine trench
#

Idiot

proud pivot
#

Ouhh

#

Fool (ullu) ka patha (idiot)
Foolish idiot

#

?

alpine trench
#

Ullu ka patha means idiot

#

That whole expression means one thing

proud pivot
#

I see

proud pivot
#

One more to my vocabulary

alpine trench
#

When it comes to Hindi curses I usually just use the hardcore ones

proud pivot
#

I know chudiya is one of them

#

Chud + iya lmfao

alpine trench
#

Chutiya yeah

#

Means cunt

proud pivot
#

Ohh

#

Naruhodo

#

@native seal tu ullu ka patha h

alpine trench
#

Good one

native seal
#

grade 5 level gali man

celest mauve
#

benchod

native seal
#

now thats more like it

proud pivot
#

Sak bandar h

alpine trench
#

Incorrect spelling man

celest mauve
#

bhenchod

alpine trench
#

Removes all the feeling from the gaali

#

YES

#

That’s it

proud pivot
#

Ullu is my most favourite hindi word, it's so cute

celest mauve
#

doesn't it also mean owl

proud pivot
#

Yes

hot cairn
#

This one piece discourse on twitter about the Elbaph arc is making me want to delete twitter

trim lily
#

make sure to avoid one piece discussion on twitter as much as possible

#

they are not real

prisma yacht
#

wow harsh was teaching them slang

celest mauve
#

it wasn't even that bad of a chapter, oda's written worse

keen quiver
#

Unless imu uses it on loki and gets some tension back

#

Its a pretty clear sign of whats gonna happen

celest mauve
#

that part was definitely bad, I just don't think it makes oda a totally shit writer or the elbaf arc unsalvagable

keen quiver
#

Its like having the ability to mind control someone until they get tickled

#

And that reverts it

#

Like what ?

#

The arc isn't bad

#

Just this one ability that the antagonist is spamming

#

Is just rough of a concept

#

People are hoping imu just spams domi reversi

#

And thats just not interesting

celest mauve
#

yeah, imu needs to show off a deeper bag

trim lily
#

i mean they already do have a potentially fun kit

celest mauve
#

where's the zoan form, haki attacks etc.

trim lily
#

theyre just using the boring ability right now

hot cairn
hot cairn
frail kindle
#

jesus

hot cairn
#

but this chapter was like nothing

frail kindle
#

twitter is a shit hole

hot cairn
prisma yacht
#

what was in 1057

hot cairn
frail kindle
#

also people are confusing domi reverse with the deep sea covenant

prisma yacht
#

I remember 1167 it was a masterpiece

frail kindle
#

combine those 2 things and its just shit discussions

prisma yacht
frail kindle
prisma yacht
#

😭

hot cairn
#

saying that Harald is… alive ?

frail kindle
#

I need to save that Oda reading comprehension pic

hot cairn
frail kindle
#

bonney g5 was up there too

hot cairn
#

nĆŗmero uno will always be chapter 1044

prisma yacht
#

i remember G5 itself creating a lot of disappointment

hot cairn
#

people were dropping essays on that shi

frail kindle
#

people have stopped reading because of g5

hot cairn
#

yep

scarlet nacelle
trim lily
#

you really cant blame people for reacting the way they did to the yamato chapter considering how oda cliffhangered it the previous

hot cairn
dire hollow
hot cairn
#

cause they couldn’t even think of Luffy having a special fruit

trim lily
#

this shit borderline malicious in nature

hot cairn
#

it was all a dream

dire hollow
#

true pain in my heart

#

could have had a real YC1

celest mauve
#

what was oda doing half the time in act 3 of wano lmao

prisma yacht
dire hollow
dire hollow
hot cairn
dire hollow
#

that SBS reveal shit is so dead put it in the manga

wraith mantle
#

break week...

prisma yacht
hot cairn
#

how is that important

trim lily
#

zoro meeting pinzoro in wano

hot cairn
wraith mantle
knotty bone
# trim lily this shit borderline malicious in nature

While in hiding, Oden snuck out into the capital each night and kidnapped several women to bring back, thus forming a harem. The women were free to leave at any time they wanted, but preferred to stay with Oden.

wraith mantle
#

mid ass chapter

dire hollow
# hot cairn how is that important

my fault for thinking that the one character we have on the crew with a connection to thie shimotsukis should have tangible ties to wano

#

it could have been as background as the vinsmoke family it just needs to be there

tough igloo
#

instead we got useless panels/pages of raizo & fukurokuju burning in fire while standing still lol

dire hollow
celest mauve
#

and that just went nowhere lol

prisma yacht
dire hollow
prisma yacht
#

who said not deserving

dire hollow
#

you

scarlet nacelle
# trim lily this shit borderline malicious in nature

i mean it makes sense
the reason kaido was able to raze wano in the first place was because oden wasn't there to protect it. him galavanting around with pirates when he SHOULD have protected his kingdom
now yamato has the gift of being able to look back with hindsight. She knows the kingdom needs a protector

prisma yacht
#

i said it doesn't need to be that way lol

scarlet nacelle
#

and she takes up the title of protector to surpass oden

prisma yacht
#

which it didn't

dire hollow
#

arguing semantics at this point but it was a shit decision by oda that it wasn't that way

tough igloo
#

i’m glad Oda showed that a good timeline Yamato , is one that stopped with the Oden shit lol

dire hollow
prisma yacht
high wolf
prisma yacht
#

instead of continuously larping

tough igloo
tough igloo
#

be yourself

cosmic hamlet
#

šŸ‘€

remote maple
restive lintel
#

Oda gonna flashback Zoro visit Ryuma grave for a powerup in future

vapid flower
#

mmmmmm power up flashbacks

wraith mantle
knotty bone
dire hollow
prisma yacht
cosmic hamlet
#

šŸ‘€

prisma yacht
cosmic hamlet
restive lintel
#

I think Zoro visit Ryuma grave is saved for last

#

Like end of One Piece

#

When Zoro marries Hiyori & settles down in Wano

#

That's when it'll happen

woven talon
#

this is just an upside down redo of the warlord rollcall

#

only with a bunvh of dialogue added instead of infoboxes

graceful pasture
#

can anyone send their bumsopp funny images, i want to make something

grand flower
tranquil estuary
#

Going to write this here : I personally think it wouldve been more impacting if Dorry and Broggy actually killed each other for real, their whole speech about dying with pride wouldve reached me better that way

serene plume
#

this is one piece

#

only character that gets to die is ace

tranquil estuary
#

Ye ye Oda never kills

serene plume
#

(deserved)

tranquil estuary
#

But were going endgame, he need to kill characters

#

The world of One piece isnt all sunshine and rainbows, he depicts horrible things and yet he cant bring himself to kill characters

wraith mantle
#

LMAO

prisma yacht
#

Who is aj