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He didn't really care to fight the elders it felt like tbh
Dogshit take
what are you guys discussing
He literally tried constantly to fight the elders
Before Luffy, and while Luffy wasn't there, and not for too long while Luffy was there
And he gave up
Remember, they didn't want to share the fight
Because he accepted he cannot win
Luffy didn't want anyone else helping lol
Not really, most of the time they were going after him
He wasn't trying to get down with them like with Kaido
His goal was to leave
Before luffy? You mean when he literally said he won’t interfere in their fight
what u think will be the focus in 1177, imu or what’s going on with hajrudin group
And let them fight Kaido
The Scabbards? No, the Worst Generation
I hope it’s Imu tbh
The scabbards had a claim on it because of their history, them getting the shot was the whole point of the operation
Yes, of course he did
They had so much more claim to it than Luffy ever did
imu will do something big soon
I think we'll not be moving to a full focus on Imu till everything is resolved around him
I feel like you're approaching this like a numbers game or something, Luffy just generally chooses to fight the toughest dude and lets his crew worry about everyone else
And wants people to be fulfilled
so I am thinking more of the Hajrudin side, Zoro, Sanji, the crew, etc for next couple of chapters
Except he chose not to go after Saturn
The scabbards vs Kaido was the fight that defined their lives and Luffy was still heading right up to help them
By your logic
oh I guess an update on Brook would be related to Imu, so we will get that atleast
Yes, because he already went after Kizaru, the problem the crew couldn't handle really
He decided the strongest guy wasn’t worth fighting
And the crew couldn’t handle Saturn
Please, Saturn couldn't get through them
He literally beat them before kuma stopped them
What are you on about
He got the drop on them with freezing and then immediately couldn't do anything except run around them
“Immediately” you mean when a non crew member arrives on the island
A factor luffy didn’t consider
Kuma coming in was helpful, but the bottom line is still Luffy chose faith in his crew over forcing his body into something that destroys it
Irrelevant, you should know Luffy doesn't think this way
And I just can’t believe that when he immediately decides none of the crew can handle Saturn
And goes after him
It isn't just a quick and easy flex for Luffy to push Gear 5th back on if he's already drained, that's like a life stressing thing
And yet the weakest people in the crew were able to
A monster trio member and franky?
Luffy's judgement is just faith, whether it's right or not doesn't matter at all
Luffy being wrong doesn't change why he does things
The guys that got no diffed?
Then like I said he should’ve trusted them vs Saturn
He knew Saturn came
Even before losing gear 5
The raw haki he sensed literally made him shit himself
The threat Saturn posed immediately was clear
You say the weakest crew members “handled” him like they did anything more than be a literal rug for him to walk over
That was Kizaru, not Saturn he sensed
Walk over? He couldn't get through them
You seem to have forgotten the first time Saturn came
When Saturn arrives EVERYONE on the island senses his presence and is immediately unnerved by it
They make a far bigger deal about his arrival than kizarus
He literally gets past them and moves on
Luffy didn't treat it like that at all
This was his reaction to Kizaru showing up
Sorry, couldn't get through them to get Robin. So he just goes after Vegapunk's message instead
Also the only reason they were really all that freaked about Saturn was because he was an Elder and was suddenly showing up in that monstrous form, Luffy didn't pay him any mind at all
Neither Zoro or Lucci could see what was happening
The only ones who could were what
Sanji?
Franky?
Everyone else lol
But yeh, observation haki would've let them know
Saturn wasn't any small presence, but he doesn't freak Luffy out like Kizaru did
He absolutely did lol he stopped fighting completely
Kizaru arriving was a moment that made luffy shit himself
Saturn arriving made EVERYONE shit themselves
No, he didn't
Everyone stopped what they were doing
Or rather, the only reason any fighting stopped was because Kizaru flew away and Luffy had to chase him
It had nothing to do with Saturn
And as soon as Luffy caught up they end the fight
No, they really didn't
They just kept doing what they were doing while commenting on what was happening
Vegapunk didn't stop driving, Luffy didn't stop fighting, I think Zoro and Lucci are the only ones who actually paused to appreciate it
Bruh why would VP stop driving
This is the only time everything's finally stopped
They were in the middle of a escape
Slamming on the brakes and freaking out at something happening is a very common trope lol
When I say everyone I mean the ppl actively fighting
But that's also not true
The only ones who stopped who were actively fighting were Lucci and Zoro
Jinbe didn't stop running to Zoro either
I actually decided to check the anime to see how true this is, since most of these are shots at the face lvl
Ehhh anime's not a gap filler here
The anime is only a bad source if it inherently goes against the story in some way
Otherwise it gives us a far better look at these events
Esp in egghead
If it's not on the page I'm not considering it, especially if the page disagrees
No, if it's not by pen it's not the fact of what happened
Their reactions were on the page and it’s in the anime too, the diff is we see more than just a head
It's literally an adaptation of what happened
An adaptation of a reaction in a moment that’s meant to be a show stopping moment
Sure, and not source material
Acting like the anime hasn’t given us clearly visuals of canon events is just goofy
Didn’t say it was
I’m saying the source material isn’t enough to go off of alone sometimes
In this case it’s literal headshots
And in the anime everyone literally stops
It pretty much always is, if you need to fill in the gaps then other canon materials work
But the anime doesn't qualify there
Except it wasn’t here
Okay but like no one except Zoro and Lucci stop in the manga
No no those are just the most clear
We actually see everyone still pursuing whatever they were doing while just commenting about what was going on
Headcanon
Luffy and Kizaru continue after Saturn arrives
That's not headcanon, it's on the page
Because Kizaru flies away to Vegapunk, yeh
They don't stop fighting because Saturn shows up, they stop fighting because Luffy has to chase Kizaru
And that happens before Saturn shows up
That doesn’t happen before saturn
Kizaru doesn’t get to the strawhats until later
Yes, it does. The page you showed before with all of their reactions, that's Luffy flying after Kizaru who is racing toward Vegapunk
You mean with the shot of Kizaru not moving
Kizaru flies off here, Luffy starts chasing
This is the next page, when they all sense Saturn
And Kizaru stops
Kizaru does not stop, Luffy would've jumped him before he got to Vegapunk if he had
There’s zero visual implying movement at all in that panel
Because Luffy's still going
Or, get this
They both stopped
Mid-air?
Yeah?
Kizaru can do that, Luffy can't
Luffy can lmfao
No, he was sprinting on the air, he wouldn't be stopping mid-air when Kizaru's still ahead of him and moving as far as he knows
Jinbe seems like he's still going, Nami and Usopp are still trying to take care of Lilith
Vegapunk and the rest are still rolling, and Kizaru's still flying trying to figure out where they are
Yeah, Luffy didn't just stop and let Kizaru go just because Saturn showed up
Gear 5 literally gives him flight
Luffy can be still in air
Luffy can fly with or without it, he can't just hover in the air though
That’s literally what he’s doing here
He isn’t on the ground nor is he running or bouncing
He’s just in mid air hovering
Anyways this went way off topic and I don’t rlly care to continue this
We’ve been arguing for like 30 minutes
Sure, topic was whether Luffy could've forced out another Gear 5th at Egghead. The obvious conclusion has to be yes because we saw him do it while in a much, much worse state
The fact that verge of death Luffy could do it makes a discussion about it redundant, he does it almost immediately the first time he ever uses the form
This is the real question, and I'm always going to stay on he just had faith his crew could handle whatever while he took a rest
And that only lasts like a minute before Kizaru gives him food and he just gets too busy eating and being obese to move at all
That’s a fair interpretation, it’s also fair to say that he couldn’t, because his crews life was on the line and if Kizaru had not had mercy on him everyone he cares about would die.
Folks tend to approach it as if Luffy laid there for like 20 minutes while his crew was ravaged, but he was only down for maybe a minute or two before Kizaru gets to feeding
It's not fair to say he couldn't if we've seen he can
It’s fair to say he couldn’t because he didn’t
That's the problem with saying he couldn't have gotten up there, we've already seen that while much worse he was able to, but it was a much different situation when he did it
Whatever else, this time he couldn’t, in my opinion. Because I don’t see Luffy letting everyone die for no reason.
I believe Luffy gave his all, but failed to defeat Kizaru. That’s all.
At Wano he HAD to do it, Kaido was a situation he already claimed and no one had a hope against, along with being a rallying force that basically wins by default if Luffy's not there. Saturn could get avoided and stonewalled by weaker members of the crew
Well he does, Luffy is eating when they actually need him to jump in
That's why he doesn't force out another Gear 5th and go help when Bonney's in danger and all that, he's stuffing his face and getting it all back
Luffy bet on Kizaru’s mercy to save him, so he didn’t feel the need to force another Gear 5?
Or Luffy just knows on instinct everything will be ok so he just lays there and Kizaru’s mercy praying he doesn’t kill him.
No, Luffy bet on his crew to handle whatever was happening while he was down, but by the time things actually happened Kizaru was feeding him
Luffy, while eating, does nothing but eat
And when he's done eating he physically can't move anymore until he digests, and then he jumps in
Vegapunk is fatally wounded after he gets Gear 5th back funny enough
Kizaru was done, there was nothing to worry about from him
Yeah I don’t see this happening, it seems quite ridiculous to take that risk when there’s an alternative that doesn’t put you at your enemies mercy.
His mercy wasn't really in the equation since supposedly he was defeated
He wasn't at his enemy's mercy, his crew saves him
Like seriously, this happens just a little bit after Saturn shows up and Kizaru is beaten
And I really can't stress enough how this is like quintessential Luffy behavior
If his crew is around he won't lift a finger to save his life if he's pooped
Technically this isnt wrong
This is Usopp's moment
Damn
Man the fanbase was not this stupid just even 2 years ago
okay upon further evaluation, it might be ragebait
Everyone is so stupid I hate everyone
can you in good faith say that
do you remember the ginny stuff in the kuma flashback
I mean I am not saying they werent awful
no doubt they were
but it feels like we're getting worse
50 chapters and bro only has this moment 💔
I mean he did attack Jarul
Eh the arc's still young
Loki being bigger than even Kaido is fucking nuts
Also love the confirmation that zoan fruits multiply in size based on the user
The way people still try to turn this into "Luffy DOMINATED Kaido in gear 5th!"
Usopp is a dick when he's drunk
Tontatta user size?
cute adorable dragon tontatta
fr
that's the usopp i need right now
Bruh
Not only that, but I think most if not all of their zoans were bug types
are you reading Elbaf for the first time? have fun!
if this is it, i will find a rope and chair
Nah I'm looking at the drunk Usopp scene
oh the way you reacted was like you were seeing it for the first time
Usopp one shots gunko
At least something I guess
Nahh its only nidhogg i guess, cuz kaido and momo dragon pretty much same
he technically did, and it was awesome. more of that plz
We dont talk about what happened after that
Momo's huge too
Like superhuman big
I'm looking forward to seeing what Zoro is capable of when he's attacking with the intent to kill now. Maybe we'll start seeing Mihawk-tier slashes from him.
Ye but kaido big big
Cant wait for serpent of hell
Just imagine what would have happened if Oars or Oars Jr ate the Nidhogg fruit.
Devil Imu will be the one to dwarf him I think
but I am sure the serpent of hellflame would be bigger too
For real, the only thing that may be bigger is Zunesha lol
Oh we saw that at god Valley too
unless it's symbolic
yet i assume this might be nidhogg's original user and it's huge
no I do believe he will be this big
Imu domi Loki then he will leave the island lol
Imu was ridiculously big in GV
will they still be a blob by that point?
or finally a face reveal?
Imu's face reveal will be sad
'cause it's definitely happening within the last like 400 chapters
why sad?
I mean depends on when we get it, I think it will be silhouetted if Imu pulls out that form in Elbaf
'cause it'll be the last 400 chapters 
I don't think we'll see a face reveal yet. I'm guessing we'll have to wait for Dragon to finally be an active player before that happens.
FINALLY /s
This is Usopp's "Spongebob Movie/Iron Man 2" moment.
Because of the character's stresses, they cope for it by excessive partying to fool themselves that things are going well, therefore pushing friends and family away

oh yeah we still need Vivi to parachute into elbaf
Those'll be the new golden days of the server
That dont mean I’m ready
This is eugenics btw
Me and my dad coming back
honestly probably domi reversi
my worst crashout in elbaf was absinthe
Never met him sorry
Yeah...Idk what Oda was cooking with the absinthe
You’re thinking of mr krabs
Absinthe?
Still crazy how rocks were able to go all the way to Imus room and out of it again
was it theorized that the serpent of hellfire is loki?
Oh that’s for when Luffy goes back in time
Green fairy
Is he flames or only lightning?
Nah but I will now if you recommend it
that was my next question
Spongebob raps, has one called Eugene
Yeah socreates dd
Did*
Bet I love it already
How rocks escaped imus flower room ?
RIP
Just walked out probably
Imu didn't seem keen on stopping him
Which is kinda weird when you think about it, he saw Imu and got to sail damn near free
He walked out
Because Imu was crazy being watched by Sabo
That made me wonder
Bro there was so much crazy weird random shit seemingly all there to explain the situation in early Elbaf and ALL of it was misdirection or literally nothing, the absinthe, the weird fog area of sea that makes you sleep, the insane concentration of "clues" that "this isn't real" that ALL ended up being just plain old art errors despite nothing like that EVER happening to anywhere near such a degree before or since lmao, I'm crashing out again now just thinking about it
I don’t think he just walked out
Well I mean he had to fight his way out
hehe Goda, amirite?
We do see that iirc, they talk about pursuing him
And Harald had a whole ass literal fire fight
The only two times I truly genuinely think Oda fumbled bad was the end of Wano and begining of Elbaf, both are full to the brim with weird ass issues and problems, yet sandwiched directly between them is arguably the best arc in the series lol
in hindsight absinthe is the most hilarious Oda fuck up. like it's one of those "you can't make this shit up/the script writes itself" moments.
Offscreen sleep mist? Seriously?
I need to read back, I missed this I think
What chap lol
like, is this Nidhogg vs whatever the earth god is? if it even is the earth god?
early elbaf during the lego area
best to find it on reddit bean
Dang, i'll look it up later
So like
Yeah he was being chased
I'm js
Its peak
Well he was fleeing
Ya'll notice how they're talking about
Oh this is so unfortunate, we're going to have to fatally wound our friends and allies
Imu probably had someone on his ass
Yes lol
Aw man I have to cut that bitch Jordan's head off aw man aw shucks this sucks guys
Dorry, Broggy and Zoro's happy to be violent, and it seems all those giants just diss Hajrudin and his guys
Yea
What’s up?
I’d like to see a five way Hakoku
I'm sure we're about to
With Zoro and the giants
Would be great if Zoro joined
thats the face of a man torn up and remorseful about what hes about to do
Yep
That’s what I keep trying to tell these ladies’ husbands
You gon overwhelm the Zoro fans
But it'd totally fit during Asura
Give him one giant joining in on each sword trio right
They all fire in three different directions in a cone out front
Make it a Big Mom feat
Who had a worse fake out death Pell, Kinemon, or dory and brogy
Kinemon
dory and broggy i can tolerate through slightly gritted teeth
I'll take Pell just getting blasted away by the explosion and it carrying him away from most of the blast
lmao
but Kinemon having three different death scares
i think they mean the one where Kaido crushed him head first
Igaram came back like nothing after Whiskey Peak
You had Pound too looking like he was boutta be beheaded
i think the only character i expect to die in this arc is jarul
then there was one more that I can't recall, I wanna say on the roof?
and even then thats a maybe
It’s been so long
Jarul should stay alive for the lols
Pound was a bad one too lmao
None were bad
the pound one is genuinely insane
who almost beheaded pound? was it cracker?
oven
Not at all
he used like a 2000 degree blade
I don’t remember the pound one
how did it not cut through that man's neck
He just stabbed into it
The back of his head, not his neck
Oven missed
Like bro is still alive

It makes no sense bruh
oooh yeah it was oven
Incredible aim
It just looks weird 'cause of how he does it
Oda really don’t wanna kill people off
oda just likes his cake and eating it
He made domi so he could kill characters without really killing them
i would'
Confirmed: Belmere is coming back for the Final War
have killed so many characters by now
Give every woman a sickness
"I have regen!"
"So I can show off bodily destruction without death!"
He wants to sell this
Been TOO MANY MIRACLES

I actually came across an SBS where Oda talked about how people dying in his personal life shaped how he handles death
First main motif in a long-term story?
Remember
Piccolo and Cell lost chunks of their body but can regen.
U dont see that for any1 else
Thats why Oda gave the HKs regen
So he can show them getting blasted apart and be fine
oda kill Ripley
Man I REALLY wish he ended his chapter at the beheading
Let everyone make up theories through the break till the next chapter
Flashback poison. Barely anything
Which would’ve revealed the Domi undo
Tbh yea
he killed Ida, but like, let's be honest with ourselves on that one
U would have 2 weeks of
Sure, we talk a lot about who should've been long ded and buried, but what about characters that shouldn't have kicked the bucket in y'all's opinion?
WE THEORIZED ALL FOR THEM TO END THE DEMON BY JUST NORMAL DEATH??
we still truly don't know if BM and Kaido are dead, that's how bad it gets. so much second guessing
JUST KILL EM NORMALLY
Imagine if Pedro survived
Shanks and Sham's mom? could add something interesting
ooh pedro is a neat one
oda needed him dead so the zou people could guilt trip carrot
Sham kills his mom storyline
NO
"To think my other half came from u"
Just to not give her a solo win
We should be making theories on how imu is gonna ruin this bit of progress
This. I was lowk hoping something more about their moms, only for her to go say hi to her ancestors on her very debut chapter
Like wth--
Don't forget Urouge
dont worry urouge is in the heaven realm with kid, bullet, uta, shiki, ida, mjosgard, sunbell,
oh i forgot enel
bullet will make his move soon
Loki Domi reversiiiiiiiiiii
Half expecting a Luffy Domi Reversi, only to backfire spectacularly on Imu's face
Imagine getting urouge story after loki and shammy of all people
Oh well, very fucking unlikely
Hey there's a small chance gunko might die this arc though
But one can dream
Domi reversi loki might be #1 in the verse ngl
!urucrew
Urouge can appear any arc from now till the end of the manga tbh
His birka heritage is the key to the first world
he was skypeian as a child
btw tell me again how loki fits into the mural specifically as it relates to the earth god? that was your theory right?
Just another slave race

"Whats your purpose"
"To be considered super strong but still a slave to the wg"
Before he got revealed to be the War God
the lunarians better be relevant. fuck they have LUNAR in their name. Moon Piece is so real you don't even know.
i really need to know how/why he turned from a skypeian to a birkan
Like Mythical Zoan DFs, we seem to be collecting those like there's a damn Pokedex being filled
I think the Lunarians only appeared during the second world
Is it a theme or a motif? Cause Oda’s not afraid to kill (he’s killed people off obvs) but he’s pretty selective on why he does it, like Pedro’s role was pretty complete when it comes to his dream with the dawn of the world and shit
did he manually flip his wings
Nidhogg being a god damn super sized dragon with lightning breath that is crazy
And naturally creates storms
Blackbeard will get Imu’s mythical zoan and complete a trilogy of stolen fruits
i think people get upset over fake-out deaths, deaths of mothers, or backstory deaths.
But like, does Oda have the balls to kill Law on-screen, for example?
keep talking
Depends on law's ending
no
Rebecca and kyros are done
Theyre just vibing
the more time that passes the less i think the immortality surgery will be something law does and more just to explain imu or whatever
Dude I really wanna see this
The surgery is waiting
Like can Oda kill Vivi somehow and have it be narratively relevant?
Way I see it
Oda wants a very specific purpose for death
And as long as it doesnt hurt the overall narrative if they survive and do nothing
Otherwise we’d probably see the surgery through the prev doctor if Ivankov’s theory of Nerona Imu is true
im about to finish volume 72 is volume 73 good?
Oda just goes "oh hey he's here too"
all volumes are good
Pound probably should be dead
Instead its "he's around....kinda."
Pedro death was to push the carrot narrative zou vibes
he'll kill ashura, but no one cares
Yes, but good is subjective, dude. Only way to find out is reading it yourself 
Hell, I would shit on One Piece back then at every opportunity
alright thanks
it's all good. keep in mind, this place talks about all of one piece so you can get spoiled here very easily
Ye its kinda
He's either pushing a narrative
Or its just "he dead. Anyways"
imma start reading it soon
the carrot narrative today......
pedro goes bye bye and pero still fucks up both wanda and carrot lmfao
Can't even push pero to mid diff

"you steal a few wheels"
Oh well technically “miracles” would be the motif
The theme would be moreso something like “there’s always a reason to have hope”
True. For example, I'm always hoping Imu is hot.
Call her Jesus
Cuz all she does is take the wheel

holy shit 
Cant go any higher than that
It was all downhill from there
Had to be bailed out by cat
Wekomamushi
Wait
We should have realized sooner jimbei was fucked to be fodder compared to the monster trio
He fought who's who
Not jack
Who was left to doggo

The guy with a storyline with Jack fought him
Instead of the guy who’s only thread to Jack is both fishman
oh right someone asked before
why did rocks kill his DR clan members
wont they regen back
did rocks double tap em?
Shuron, you're black right?
I got a question for you
What’s up meek
They got a different domi reversi, imu wanted the davys dead while he wanted the giants as his army could be why they heal back to full after death
That’s a good point
He gave rocks Temu Domi Reversi
yes
@vital heart
also dory and brogy > rocks they were able to withstand the DR
you know i cant really deny the idea of different domi conditions
so yeah that works
also its a stronger imu in god valley
manifested as a big cone above saturn
lava lamp muppet
Joshua lmao
Vote for tama
vote shanks
context???
theres none
Huh
well theres I am kidding, he's the guy who named Mock Town
I'm a fake fan
hes an iconic character really
I am actually not sure what Oda even means by that name, like at all
There's nothing else it could possibly mean in the Japanese either
the name is what it is
wasnt jupeter almost translated as jew peter too
nah it doesnt work with him
anyways
been reading on these prophesy back in FMI
and the harley
man the nika user really is just a mediator between the key figures per world timeline huh?
I wouldnt call Luffy a mediator
bro this message has been killing me 😭😭😭😭😭😭
i need a break
let me compile these
i'll leave the server for 9 hours
Did you guys see that clip of Jacob (Usopp from OPLA) calling Elbaf Usopp's One Piece? Its fascinating certainly...
unfortunate timing
Is it
i wonder if he's been reading
I have had a crack theory
none of the va's are caught up w the manga
id believe that
Maybe it was supposed to be Ju Wall and he's related to Ju Peter
oh no he is not a reader, he mentioned that he is only familiar with what he has acted in already
but yea, Crack
Try davy D. Jones
Oda does like to time things to certain things sometimes, its not something that is imposed on him but he sort of forces it upon himself
its him
Imagine hody is a descendant
HODY XEBEC
Would be cinema really
Shanks appearing in Wano at the same time as Film Red, being one of the big examples. Or Oden dying on Oden Day.
Hody deserves better than to be related to that family
So the crack theory is basically: He's gonna time Usopp's big moments with the OPLA's release, as it covers Little Garden. I guess we will see if it lines up
not that it matters
but would be funny
i could see it
genuinely i dont think we'll go through elbaf without usopp getting some major moment or scene (after now) but it would be so funny if he didnt
well. the OPLA release is on a break week
so
youre wrong
LMAO
HHAHAH
unless you think 1177 will be an usopp chapter
?
do you think 1177 will be an usopp chapter
no I don't mean 1:1 line up
oh right opla is a batch release
yea, Netflix just loves doing that too much...
wouldve been perfect timing if it was usopp leading the giants this chap
zoro needs his extra screentime though
I wouldnt say Zoro is even leading the giants
not literally but it looks that way from the placement
he's part of the group, the giants are not going to follow his lead, not Dorry and Brogy especially
and this moment fits him better anyways, youre looking at some sick violent freaks here
Mmhmm
Did you watch the Morj review for ch 1176?
That'll explain why I asked
Ofc not
He compared Uncle Ruckus to Killingham
"Did you shoot yourself in the head with a gun"
“Did you eat that literal piece of shit”
Oh he still thinks killingham is a fishman?
Are you asking me what calling him uncle ruckus means?
the uncle ruckus angle with killingham would be fun but itd also be kind of silly if a fishman was a holy knight
then again they were fine with having a giant
No, morj explains the reference in the video
Yeah he's 100% convinced lmao
ok i just rushed this
does this make sense now?
He just thinks Killingham is a fishman Uncle Ruckus
Yeah that makes it okay
just click it and I will delete it
its not allowed anyways, it doesnt matter
gave you a min

anyways
What a nice mod
Qilingham. I like the idea but Qilingham was a little too... idk
violent about it?
It doesn’t work as well hm
fishingham
@ashen perch apparently the nami and zoro live action actors are caught up w the manga, the others arent
I don’t think Killingham is a fishman
he just has sharp teeth
this kind of killed my idea for him, which is that he wears the mask to not be a nuisance to his fellow HKs as a half fishman
but who knows, maybe he is like really really really delusional
one thing that I did consider
Maybe he’s coping
is the possibility of another Gunko type situation here
i dont think we should open up pandoras box for that
I think captain John is Bonney’s father
What if he's basically a glorified slave for the WG? just a Fishman that they were really impressed by and mind wiped him to be... this?
The killingham is a fishman theory always seemed like a longshot to me
Imu put them tentacles in him and it was all over
id prefer if he was this fucked up of his own volition
I don’t know if sharp teeth should be an indicator of someone being a fishman, there’s characters in OP with sharp teeth that aren’t fishmen
Jack ruined us
we've got characters with horns in op that means nothing lol
well I think we're gonna have more mindwiped characters, Gunko won't be alone in this.
bro this is some kinky shit bro
yeah
Moria , Barto , that marine with a cannon top hat
dive too
i think at least 1 gorosei is currently mindwiped
Vice admiral urban that’s his name
That’s where your mind went…
which one do u think it is
its not but it just stands out that he went after the only Fishman in the crew in such an unhinged sort of way
after being speculated to be a fishman for a while...
he didnt go out of his way for it, he saw jinbe coming
this is such a funny name icl
Yeah
All Celestial dragons hate fishman though
but yeah his hatred is a bit unhinged even by HK standards
"yeah I support a bum"
Year of nothing
true
"Half year of Usopp"
He did see Jinbe coming but its not like he had to be so unhinged about it
"Quarter year of usopp"
Meek are you done
Youre like 24 now, when are you going to grow up
I think it’s because hes a racist piece of shit. The other strawhats there were all humans.
“Panel of Ussop”
okay still a grown ass man
doing a gimmick from 5 years ago that was already old back then
So true
that’s my sister’s age, you’re a grown ass man
The Yeti HK will be brainwashed
😭
Hop on the Weevil wagon
He was originally a benevolent being
is that why he looks so nice
Yeah

what if sommers is brainwashed
I won’t be here too long I’m chugging a Red Bull in the back of the restaurant
Yea, but Gunko or Sommers didnt react this way. Thats what made it stand out to me
It would be funny if he was coping
@next estuary Real talk, can I ask you a serious ass question?
his kindness has shown through many times but his evil programming keeps taking over
it feels that way
Sure man
what have you thought of the live action footage we’ve gotten
How do I pronounce Euge?
fair enough
20 years old, the clock is ticking man
I pronounce it a certain way but most ppl I meet pronounce it a diff way lol
I'm thinking its like "Suge" as in Suge Knight
I do ||yooj|| some ppl do ||oo-gey|| or ||yoo-jee||
man it sucks that there’s a break next week
Yooj
But the issue is that I dont know how to pronounce Suge
i never considered someone pronouncing the eu as oo
It’s basically just Eugene with 1.5 syllables
Some ESL ppl have said that to me
Mostly Spanish speakers
I dont mind waiting but I do mind the state of the discourse, wish we had one more chapter after this because the fanbase has been... silly!
ah
I wonder what Oda plans to do with Weevil
HOLY SHIT
YOUR NAME IS SHORT FOR EUGENE
WHY CANT I CALL YOU GENE
Why would I want to be called Gene
I’m surprised he threw him in Impel Down
Sh-oh-g
then you'd be like Mean Gene
did you know that gene rhymes with geriatric
yes, this is why it sucks, not a good chapter to go to break with
This dude meek is brain damaged
is that true meek
Eugene is already a geriatric name I just made mine my own
maybe the next cover story is about Stussy meeting the REAL Stussy in Sphinx island
yea for sure
Haven’t watched much of it can’t lie 😭
it doesn’t feel like we’ve had 3 in a row
I’ve been going through character development
oh
remember when people thought we were going to Sphinx island after Wano
Haven’t had much time to be on discord
lazy and greedy oda…
I remember
I think so too
omg wait i figured out how the arc will go
Oda wants to force us to watch it
is there some sort of big premiere in America? he might be attending it?
oh right
Idk, not been keeping up
that’s probably it
it already happened
Bottoms up fellas
maybe theres another
Hope to chat more soon
Fuckj
Is this just evil Kylej
LOL it looks better than season 1
I stole Meek's whole flow
I mean who knows it does seem to play later on plus Sanji needs to counter one of holy knights so what better way to do that than this arc ?
the live action is alright but I hate how it affects the manga
Loki gets Domi Reversi'd, Shanks comes back. Gunko is still possessed.
Shanks + Luffy + Brook vs DR Loki + Imuko
Brook drives off Imu and frees Gunko.
Luffy beats DR Loki, Shanks kills DR Loki. Loki is back to normal.
@sturdy steeple @ashen perch @trim lily @stone tulip
Because of that map lmao
This is the remainder of Elbaf
Usopp will not have a role in this.
God forbid a white Japanese boy have other hobbies
Shanks might be saved for next arc tbh.
And I don’t think Loki would get DR at all.
lol I remember
I always said that there could be a new island in there
But now that we know that DR is ultimately an inconsequential technique, I am okay with literally any strawhat getting DR
I don’t think it does affect the manga but they do change a lot of stuff from the source material
I want my manga tho
Turned out to be Egghead
Which was out of nowhere
yall liked the chapter?
I mean with the breaks and shi
Sure but who knows
I expected a vegapunk arc
I don’t think LA played with the breaks, there are other factors too
I want Emily Rudd guess we’ll both have to cope
I mean most of us did but I meant the island itself wasn’t mentioned before until chapter 1059 which was few chapters before the arc start which is funny considering Oda tend to name islands in advanced
I just hope they don’t fuck up Vivi that’s all, I am already mixed with the casting already 😭
she’s beautiful
People still think he will ?
I think we’ll go to a new island after this arc
Hence why I said mixed instead cause I do think she is a great actress and would very likely do a good job with Vivi, it’s more like me being more disappointed with not being played by SWANA actress if you get what I mean.
Yeah she is definitely beautiful for sure, no denying that
Loki gets Domi Reversi'd, Shanks comes back. Gunko is still possessed.
Shanks + Luffy + Brook vs DR Loki + Imuko
Brook drives off Imu and frees Gunko.
Luffy beats DR Loki, Shanks kills DR Loki. Loki is back to normal.
03/06/2026 theory.
can i get this pinned
Based on Oda’s message there is a chance we may go to Lodestar island.
It’s not
Imu can flip them back
They can’t kill them forever
They’re gonna get tired curing them before imu gets tired cursing then
No
What the hell is the sbs is about Shuron
No Shanks
Yeah Shanks will not be on this arc for sure, probably next arc
Shanks😭
Brook😭
Shanks isnt near Elbaf anymore
Kid ofc
Dragon is coming to elbaf not shanks. The latter has no business to come back to elbaf
Yes but handle imu....
What is about it ?
Alone
I agree actually shanks def has business but he just left
yeah he did it
What did Hanafuda do to make the kid pirates kill him
I think we may have different definitions of handle
I still do wonder what happened to Brook
Vaporized
Did we have confirmation that Kidd pirates killed Hanafuda ?
Brook vaporized and is possessing Gunkmu now? 
Imu agreed to post-pone
Nah uh
We bouta if meek mails this damn letter
the mihawk and vista cycle
It was quite advantageous to them both
Logically then he left because he concluded his business on elbaf. He met up with Gaban, Loki and his long lost friend (probably the man marked by flames), and departed the island long ago.
Yeah I don’t see him coming back
Dragon left off egghead with a lot of reasons to come to Elbaph
He's been doing it for 2 chapters now 👀
Wait who mails SBS?
I guess
Wrong mail box shit
This is the second time this week I saw someone ping a wrong Mailbox
I think you can just mail it to a po box
Must be tough for those fake mailboxes
One of them should have changes usernames
I don’t know much about international mail process.
Or at least nicknames
Wait you can vote for Oda in the poll right
Shambox
Idk but how long does the poll last? Ik that result come in August
June
Can’t wait for a chapter to randomly start with Saturn announcing a speech to the world 
I’ve been looking after my friend’s dogs
Oh good.. Vote for Usopp lads 😌
I’ve noticed sometimes they go to areas of the house she usually sits in, like they’re checking to see if she’s home
Despite their sense of smell and hearing probably being good enough to tell shes not there
ofc
Just dogs and they know how to hold onto hope and optimism better than most OP fans
Shit is crazy
Nah my votes goes to chopper 
I hope we see Harald again in the story
Nah.. you got time till June so spare some for my Goat.
(insert i'm doing my part gif here)
Good choice
Oh I’m just now realizing
can't spare a single vote
Good taste
Maybe Mihawk’s fashion sense rubbed off on Perona
Great, even
You scored 100% on this test
My next vote will be Porche thoug
Vote for the GOAT
Well then do as you wish.. we’ll surely surpass Chopper in rankings
what yalls favorite usopp moment this arc
We'll see
She needs your votes
Usopp blowing up Gunko. And peak is yet to come
His drunken false bravado
I just learned you can vote from different browsers mobile
Oh the moment the jokes about pulling out the Excalibur from Jarul was pretty funny
foxy underrated
i skipped straight to aokiji chapter on rereads
So far I've voted Franky, Brook, Kuma and Buggy
yeah that makes sense
I highly recommend looking up the pic they used for Kuma
ive voted shanks, stussy, stussy
I got a golden too
me too
is it just today?
or like
is it rarer than that
I got the golden trio
w
The only correct vote
...
Hurm...
vote for garling
nika goated character
SHOCKING: Franky voice actor votes for Franky
I have no idea what the golden one is
Nice pfp
Ichi solos
who are some of the underrated character yall think needs the attention in the poll? i'd say Pekoms for me
I will when he does something
He's screaming 
You know what I mean
No you don’t understand. If we force a vote we can force Oda to give him something in the manga
Voting has power
i dont think so
fr
Well im not THAT interested in usopp
sure
Hey Usopp development is more likely than Lunami
I swear if teach was good looking he'd have a simp army. Greatest filtering of all time.
BB goes to great lengths to make sure he's not as distracting as his dad, so as only to attract a mate who loves him for who he is, rather than abs
Needs a partner who lives big brain plays
bb is similar to luffy
Rocks had a real one for a wife
he might even view relationships as petty/small
Laffiette, is BB crime partner..
im speculating bb abandoned his mom
He has been motivated to see his dad's plan through
thats not my interpretation
I dont see it any other way
He clearly knows what he is
And very likely the yami fruit is the fruit rocks wanted
Rocks dint know what nika even was
So not part of the plan
he did go to elbaf


