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And yet several others have

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He didn't really care to fight the elders it felt like tbh

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what are you guys discussing

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He literally tried constantly to fight the elders

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And he gave up

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Remember, they didn't want to share the fight

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Because he accepted he cannot win

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Luffy didn't want anyone else helping lol

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He wasn't trying to get down with them like with Kaido

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His goal was to leave

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And let them fight Kaido

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He let the scabbards fight Kaido though

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He made that choice even tho he could’ve

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The scabbards had a claim on it because of their history, them getting the shot was the whole point of the operation

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They had so much more claim to it than Luffy ever did

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I feel like you're approaching this like a numbers game or something, Luffy just generally chooses to fight the toughest dude and lets his crew worry about everyone else

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And wants people to be fulfilled

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so I am thinking more of the Hajrudin side, Zoro, Sanji, the crew, etc for next couple of chapters

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The scabbards vs Kaido was the fight that defined their lives and Luffy was still heading right up to help them

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By your logic

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oh I guess an update on Brook would be related to Imu, so we will get that atleast

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He decided the strongest guy wasn’t worth fighting

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Please, Saturn couldn't get through them

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What are you on about

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He got the drop on them with freezing and then immediately couldn't do anything except run around them

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A factor luffy didn’t consider

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Kuma coming in was helpful, but the bottom line is still Luffy chose faith in his crew over forcing his body into something that destroys it

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And goes after him

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It isn't just a quick and easy flex for Luffy to push Gear 5th back on if he's already drained, that's like a life stressing thing

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A monster trio member and franky?

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Luffy's judgement is just faith, whether it's right or not doesn't matter at all

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Luffy being wrong doesn't change why he does things

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The guys that got no diffed?

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He knew Saturn came

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Even before losing gear 5

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The raw haki he sensed literally made him shit himself

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The threat Saturn posed immediately was clear

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You say the weakest crew members “handled” him like they did anything more than be a literal rug for him to walk over

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When Saturn arrives EVERYONE on the island senses his presence and is immediately unnerved by it

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They make a far bigger deal about his arrival than kizarus

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This was his reaction to Kizaru showing up

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Also the only reason they were really all that freaked about Saturn was because he was an Elder and was suddenly showing up in that monstrous form, Luffy didn't pay him any mind at all

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The only ones who could were what

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Sanji?

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Franky?

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Everyone else lol

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But yeh, observation haki would've let them know

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Saturn wasn't any small presence, but he doesn't freak Luffy out like Kizaru did

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Kizaru arriving was a moment that made luffy shit himself

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Saturn arriving made EVERYONE shit themselves

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Everyone stopped what they were doing

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Or rather, the only reason any fighting stopped was because Kizaru flew away and Luffy had to chase him

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It had nothing to do with Saturn

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And as soon as Luffy caught up they end the fight

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They just kept doing what they were doing while commenting on what was happening

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Vegapunk didn't stop driving, Luffy didn't stop fighting, I think Zoro and Lucci are the only ones who actually paused to appreciate it

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This is the only time everything's finally stopped

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They were in the middle of a escape

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When I say everyone I mean the ppl actively fighting

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But that's also not true

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The only ones who stopped who were actively fighting were Lucci and Zoro

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Jinbe didn't stop running to Zoro either

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Ehhh anime's not a gap filler here

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The anime is only a bad source if it inherently goes against the story in some way

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Otherwise it gives us a far better look at these events

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Esp in egghead

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If it's not on the page I'm not considering it, especially if the page disagrees

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It's literally an adaptation of what happened

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Sure, and not source material

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Acting like the anime hasn’t given us clearly visuals of canon events is just goofy

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I’m saying the source material isn’t enough to go off of alone sometimes

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In this case it’s literal headshots

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And in the anime everyone literally stops

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But the anime doesn't qualify there

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We actually see everyone still pursuing whatever they were doing while just commenting about what was going on

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Luffy and Kizaru continue after Saturn arrives

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LUL That's not headcanon, it's on the page

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They don't stop fighting because Saturn shows up, they stop fighting because Luffy has to chase Kizaru

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And that happens before Saturn shows up

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Kizaru doesn’t get to the strawhats until later

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Yes, it does. The page you showed before with all of their reactions, that's Luffy flying after Kizaru who is racing toward Vegapunk

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Kizaru flies off here, Luffy starts chasing

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This is the next page, when they all sense Saturn

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Kizaru does not stop, Luffy would've jumped him before he got to Vegapunk if he had

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There’s zero visual implying movement at all in that panel

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Because Luffy's still going

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Mid-air?

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Yeah?

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Kizaru can do that, Luffy can't

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Luffy can lmfao

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No, he was sprinting on the air, he wouldn't be stopping mid-air when Kizaru's still ahead of him and moving as far as he knows

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Jinbe seems like he's still going, Nami and Usopp are still trying to take care of Lilith

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Vegapunk and the rest are still rolling, and Kizaru's still flying trying to figure out where they are

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Yeah, Luffy didn't just stop and let Kizaru go just because Saturn showed up

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Luffy can be still in air

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Luffy can fly with or without it, he can't just hover in the air though

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That’s literally what he’s doing here

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He isn’t on the ground nor is he running or bouncing

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He’s just in mid air hovering

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Anyways this went way off topic and I don’t rlly care to continue this

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We’ve been arguing for like 30 minutes

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Sure, topic was whether Luffy could've forced out another Gear 5th at Egghead. The obvious conclusion has to be yes because we saw him do it while in a much, much worse state

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Why doesn’t he force another Gear 5

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In egghead

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The fact that verge of death Luffy could do it makes a discussion about it redundant, he does it almost immediately the first time he ever uses the form

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And that only lasts like a minute before Kizaru gives him food and he just gets too busy eating and being obese to move at all

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That’s a fair interpretation, it’s also fair to say that he couldn’t, because his crews life was on the line and if Kizaru had not had mercy on him everyone he cares about would die.

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Folks tend to approach it as if Luffy laid there for like 20 minutes while his crew was ravaged, but he was only down for maybe a minute or two before Kizaru gets to feeding

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It’s fair to say he couldn’t because he didn’t

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That's the problem with saying he couldn't have gotten up there, we've already seen that while much worse he was able to, but it was a much different situation when he did it

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Whatever else, this time he couldn’t, in my opinion. Because I don’t see Luffy letting everyone die for no reason.

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I believe Luffy gave his all, but failed to defeat Kizaru. That’s all.

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At Wano he HAD to do it, Kaido was a situation he already claimed and no one had a hope against, along with being a rallying force that basically wins by default if Luffy's not there. Saturn could get avoided and stonewalled by weaker members of the crew

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That's why he doesn't force out another Gear 5th and go help when Bonney's in danger and all that, he's stuffing his face and getting it all back

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Luffy bet on Kizaru’s mercy to save him, so he didn’t feel the need to force another Gear 5?

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Or Luffy just knows on instinct everything will be ok so he just lays there and Kizaru’s mercy praying he doesn’t kill him.

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No, Luffy bet on his crew to handle whatever was happening while he was down, but by the time things actually happened Kizaru was feeding him

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Luffy, while eating, does nothing but eat

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And when he's done eating he physically can't move anymore until he digests, and then he jumps in

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Vegapunk is fatally wounded after he gets Gear 5th back funny enough

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Yeah I don’t see this happening, it seems quite ridiculous to take that risk when there’s an alternative that doesn’t put you at your enemies mercy.

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His mercy wasn't really in the equation since supposedly he was defeated

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Like seriously, this happens just a little bit after Saturn shows up and Kizaru is beaten

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And I really can't stress enough how this is like quintessential Luffy behavior

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If his crew is around he won't lift a finger to save his life if he's pooped

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trim lily
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TRUE he did go to elbaf

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usopp's character arc is now complete

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This is Usopp's moment

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Damn

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Man the fanbase was not this stupid just even 2 years ago

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okay upon further evaluation, it might be ragebait

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Everyone is so stupid I hate everyone

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do you remember the ginny stuff in the kuma flashback

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I mean I am not saying they werent awful

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no doubt they were

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but it feels like we're getting worse

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Eh the arc's still young

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Loki being bigger than even Kaido is fucking nuts

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Also love the confirmation that zoan fruits multiply in size based on the user

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The way people still try to turn this into "Luffy DOMINATED Kaido in gear 5th!"

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They stay just as tiny

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They had bunches of zoans lol

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cute adorable dragon tontatta

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Nah I'm looking at the drunk Usopp scene

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oh the way you reacted was like you were seeing it for the first time

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Usopp one shots gunko

At least something I guess

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Like superhuman big

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I'm looking forward to seeing what Zoro is capable of when he's attacking with the intent to kill now. Maybe we'll start seeing Mihawk-tier slashes from him.

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everything is dwarfed by loki

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comically so

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Devil Imu will be the one to dwarf him I think

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but I am sure the serpent of hellflame would be bigger too

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imu could grow massive

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Oh we saw that at god Valley too

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unless it's symbolic

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yet i assume this might be nidhogg's original user and it's huge

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Imu domi Loki then he will leave the island lol

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or finally a face reveal?

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Imu's face reveal will be sad

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'cause it's definitely happening within the last like 400 chapters

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why sad?

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I mean depends on when we get it, I think it will be silhouetted if Imu pulls out that form in Elbaf

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Without lily UsoppGrief

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This is Usopp's "Spongebob Movie/Iron Man 2" moment.

Because of the character's stresses, they cope for it by excessive partying to fool themselves that things are going well, therefore pushing friends and family away

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oh yeah we still need Vivi to parachute into elbaf

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Those'll be the new golden days of the server

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That dont mean I’m ready

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This is eugenics btw

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What was the last theorybro "crashout"

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Time dilation?

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my worst crashout in elbaf was absinthe

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Yeah...Idk what Oda was cooking with the absinthe

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Absinthe?

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Still crazy how rocks were able to go all the way to Imus room and out of it again

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was it theorized that the serpent of hellfire is loki?

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Shit's hilarious

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Did*

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How rocks escaped imus flower room ?

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Just walked out probably

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Imu didn't seem keen on stopping him

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Which is kinda weird when you think about it, he saw Imu and got to sail damn near free

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That made me wonder

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# brittle basin my worst crashout in elbaf was absinthe

Bro there was so much crazy weird random shit seemingly all there to explain the situation in early Elbaf and ALL of it was misdirection or literally nothing, the absinthe, the weird fog area of sea that makes you sleep, the insane concentration of "clues" that "this isn't real" that ALL ended up being just plain old art errors despite nothing like that EVER happening to anywhere near such a degree before or since lmao, I'm crashing out again now just thinking about it

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I don’t think he just walked out

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Well I mean he had to fight his way out

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We do see that iirc, they talk about pursuing him

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And Harald had a whole ass literal fire fight

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The only two times I truly genuinely think Oda fumbled bad was the end of Wano and begining of Elbaf, both are full to the brim with weird ass issues and problems, yet sandwiched directly between them is arguably the best arc in the series lol

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I can forgive the errors

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That sea mist idk

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in hindsight absinthe is the most hilarious Oda fuck up. like it's one of those "you can't make this shit up/the script writes itself" moments.

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Offscreen sleep mist? Seriously?

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What chap lol

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like, is this Nidhogg vs whatever the earth god is? if it even is the earth god?

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best to find it on reddit bean

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Dang, i'll look it up later

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I'm js

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Well he was fleeing

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Ya'll notice how they're talking about

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Oh this is so unfortunate, we're going to have to fatally wound our friends and allies

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Imu probably had someone on his ass

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Massive smiles plastered on their faces

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Oh no guys aw jeez...

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Yes lol

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Aw man I have to cut that bitch Jordan's head off aw man aw shucks this sucks guys

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Dorry, Broggy and Zoro's happy to be violent, and it seems all those giants just diss Hajrudin and his guys

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"We're all very reluctant" stfu

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I’d like to see a five way Hakoku

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I'm sure we're about to

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With Zoro and the giants

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Would be great if Zoro joined

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thats the face of a man torn up and remorseful about what hes about to do

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Yep

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Pull out an Asura Hakoku

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Ooooo one Hakoku for each sword, three different beams

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But it'd totally fit during Asura

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Give him one giant joining in on each sword trio right

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They all fire in three different directions in a cone out front

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Make it a Big Mom feat

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Who had a worse fake out death Pell, Kinemon, or dory and brogy

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Pell is still probably the worst

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Kin is kinda weird too

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Kinemon

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dory and broggy i can tolerate through slightly gritted teeth

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I'll take Pell just getting blasted away by the explosion and it carrying him away from most of the blast

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lmao

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but Kinemon having three different death scares

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i think they mean the one where Kaido crushed him head first

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Igaram came back like nothing after Whiskey Peak

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Yeh, that was one

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then Kaido stabbed him for the other

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You had Pound too looking like he was boutta be beheaded

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i think the only character i expect to die in this arc is jarul

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then there was one more that I can't recall, I wanna say on the roof?

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and even then thats a maybe

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Jarul should stay alive for the lols

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the pound one is genuinely insane

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who almost beheaded pound? was it cracker?

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oven

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he used like a 2000 degree blade

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I don’t remember the pound one

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how did it not cut through that man's neck

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He just stabbed into it

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The back of his head, not his neck

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It makes no sense bruh

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oooh yeah it was oven

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Incredible aim

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It just looks weird 'cause of how he does it

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Oda really don’t wanna kill people off

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Oven swinging with everything cuz he got no diff'd by sanji

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He is mad

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i would'

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have killed so many characters by now

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Give every woman a sickness

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He wants to sell this

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I actually came across an SBS where Oda talked about how people dying in his personal life shaped how he handles death

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Remember
Piccolo and Cell lost chunks of their body but can regen.
U dont see that for any1 else

Thats why Oda gave the HKs regen
So he can show them getting blasted apart and be fine

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oda kill Ripley

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Let everyone make up theories through the break till the next chapter

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Which would’ve revealed the Domi undo

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i feel like that wouldve stung worse

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a lot worse

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Tbh yea

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he killed Ida, but like, let's be honest with ourselves on that one

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U would have 2 weeks of

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Sure, we talk a lot about who should've been long ded and buried, but what about characters that shouldn't have kicked the bucket in y'all's opinion?

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what if ida survived by a miracle though

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shes mosa

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WE THEORIZED ALL FOR THEM TO END THE DEMON BY JUST NORMAL DEATH??

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we still truly don't know if BM and Kaido are dead, that's how bad it gets. so much second guessing

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JUST KILL EM NORMALLY

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ooh pedro is a neat one

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oda needed him dead so the zou people could guilt trip carrot

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NO

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"To think my other half came from u"

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"Father has granted me the honor of expunging your stain from our history"

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Like wth--

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theory: we're cutting to the weevil subarc next chap

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this is the year of weevil

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remember when VP "died"

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good times

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dont worry urouge is in the heaven realm with kid, bullet, uta, shiki, ida, mjosgard, sunbell,

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oh i forgot enel

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Urouge soon

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get hyped

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and vivi

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elbaf isn't over

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usopp power up soon

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bullet will make his move soon

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Oh well, very fucking unlikely

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Hey there's a small chance gunko might die this arc though

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But one can dream

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Domi reversi loki might be #1 in the verse ngl

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Urouge can appear any arc from now till the end of the manga tbh

His birka heritage is the key to the first world

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What about King and his Lunarian heritage

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Y'all think it's going to be relevant?

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"Whats your purpose"
"To be considered super strong but still a slave to the wg"

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the lunarians better be relevant. fuck they have LUNAR in their name. Moon Piece is so real you don't even know.

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i really need to know how/why he turned from a skypeian to a birkan

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I think the Lunarians only appeared during the second world

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# grand flower First main motif in a long-term story?

Is it a theme or a motif? Cause Oda’s not afraid to kill (he’s killed people off obvs) but he’s pretty selective on why he does it, like Pedro’s role was pretty complete when it comes to his dream with the dawn of the world and shit

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did he manually flip his wings

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Blackbeard will get Imu’s mythical zoan and complete a trilogy of stolen fruits

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But like, does Oda have the balls to kill Law on-screen, for example?

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i think he might

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but 90% chance he wont

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keep talking

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Depends on law's ending

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Would Oda kill Rebecca?

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or her father?

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no

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Rebecca and kyros are done
Theyre just vibing

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the more time that passes the less i think the immortality surgery will be something law does and more just to explain imu or whatever

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The surgery is waiting

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Like can Oda kill Vivi somehow and have it be narratively relevant?

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Way I see it

Oda wants a very specific purpose for death
And as long as it doesnt hurt the overall narrative if they survive and do nothing

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Otherwise we’d probably see the surgery through the prev doctor if Ivankov’s theory of Nerona Imu is true

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Pell got bombed
But after that?
He does nothing

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He might as well BE dead

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im about to finish volume 72 is volume 73 good?

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Oda just goes "oh hey he's here too"

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all volumes are good

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Pound probably should be dead

Instead its "he's around....kinda."

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Pedro death was to push the carrot narrative zou vibes

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he'll kill ashura, but no one cares

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Hell, I would shit on One Piece back then at every opportunity

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imma start reading it soon

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pedro goes bye bye and pero still fucks up both wanda and carrot lmfao

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and then makes carrot the zou leader.

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bro i think oda hates carrot

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"What was my peak moment"
"Being bait"

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Cant go any higher than that
It was all downhill from there

Had to be bailed out by cat

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Wekomamushi

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Wait
We should have realized sooner jimbei was fucked to be fodder compared to the monster trio

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He fought who's who

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Not jack

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Who was left to doggo

grand flower
#

The guy with a storyline with Jack fought him

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Instead of the guy who’s only thread to Jack is both fishman

unique lagoon
#

oh right someone asked before
why did rocks kill his DR clan members

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wont they regen back
did rocks double tap em?

vital heart
#

I got a question for you

grand flower
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What’s up meek

fluid cedar
grand flower
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He gave rocks Temu Domi Reversi

fluid cedar
#

yes

grand flower
fluid cedar
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also dory and brogy > rocks they were able to withstand the DR

unique lagoon
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you know i cant really deny the idea of different domi conditions
so yeah that works

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also its a stronger imu in god valley

fluid cedar
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manifested as a big cone above saturn

wraith mantle
vital heart
#

Or like

unique lagoon
#

lava lamp muppet

vital heart
#

Do yk who Uncle Ruckus is

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?

unique lagoon
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this is glorpshit

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its not in the list meaning davy jones aint the real name

clever idol
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Joshua lmao

trim lily
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it doesnt even have jew wall

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whats the point of voting

clever idol
#

Vote for tama

dense haven
#

vote shanks

brittle basin
ashen perch
#

theres none

prisma idol
ashen perch
#

well theres I am kidding, he's the guy who named Mock Town

prisma idol
trim lily
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hes an iconic character really

ashen perch
#

I am actually not sure what Oda even means by that name, like at all

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There's nothing else it could possibly mean in the Japanese either

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the name is what it is

trim lily
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wasnt jupeter almost translated as jew peter too

ashen perch
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nah it doesnt work with him

vital heart
#

WHO IS JEW WALL

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LMAO

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LMAO

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LOL

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LOOOOOOOOL

ashen perch
#

anyways

stone terrace
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Well its a ship

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Not sure if thats any better though

unique lagoon
#

been reading on these prophesy back in FMI
and the harley
man the nika user really is just a mediator between the key figures per world timeline huh?

vital heart
unique lagoon
#

he will be

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he already is

vital heart
#

i need a break

unique lagoon
#

let me compile these

vital heart
#

i'll leave the server for 9 hours

ashen perch
#

Did you guys see that clip of Jacob (Usopp from OPLA) calling Elbaf Usopp's One Piece? Its fascinating certainly...

trim lily
#

unfortunate timing

ashen perch
#

Is it

trim lily
#

i wonder if he's been reading

ashen perch
#

I have had a crack theory

vital heart
#

none of the va's are caught up w the manga

trim lily
#

id believe that

urban lodge
#

Maybe it was supposed to be Ju Wall and he's related to Ju Peter

ashen perch
#

oh no he is not a reader, he mentioned that he is only familiar with what he has acted in already

ashen perch
trim lily
#

oh so hes just guessing

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yeah thats a pretty fair guess

odd rune
vital heart
#

@odd rune

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nah

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you didnt even check urself?

ashen perch
#

Oda does like to time things to certain things sometimes, its not something that is imposed on him but he sort of forces it upon himself

vital heart
trim lily
#

its him

odd rune
#

Imagine hody is a descendant

vital heart
#

HODY XEBEC

odd rune
#

Would be cinema really

ashen perch
trim lily
#

the hody renaissance

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oda has been hearing us talk shit about him

vital heart
#

i just voted

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#Voted

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#JustVoted

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#Wyper2026

urban lodge
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Hody deserves better than to be related to that family

ashen perch
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not that it matters

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but would be funny

trim lily
#

i could see it

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genuinely i dont think we'll go through elbaf without usopp getting some major moment or scene (after now) but it would be so funny if he didnt

vital heart
#

so

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youre wrong

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LMAO

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HHAHAH

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unless you think 1177 will be an usopp chapter

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?

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do you think 1177 will be an usopp chapter

ashen perch
trim lily
#

oh right opla is a batch release

ashen perch
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I mean around the same time

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basically from next chapter yeah

ashen perch
trim lily
#

wouldve been perfect timing if it was usopp leading the giants this chap

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zoro needs his extra screentime though

ashen perch
#

I wouldnt say Zoro is even leading the giants

trim lily
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not literally but it looks that way from the placement

ashen perch
#

he's part of the group, the giants are not going to follow his lead, not Dorry and Brogy especially

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and this moment fits him better anyways, youre looking at some sick violent freaks here

grand flower
vital heart
#

That'll explain why I asked

grand flower
vital heart
ashen perch
#

"Did you shoot yourself in the head with a gun"

grand flower
grand flower
#

Are you asking me what calling him uncle ruckus means?

trim lily
#

the uncle ruckus angle with killingham would be fun but itd also be kind of silly if a fishman was a holy knight

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then again they were fine with having a giant

vital heart
vital heart
unique lagoon
vital heart
#

He just thinks Killingham is a fishman Uncle Ruckus

ashen perch
#

eeeeeeeeeeeh I should probably

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delete

vital heart
#

shuron is black

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you cant delete

grand flower
#

Yeah that makes it okay

ashen perch
#

just click it and I will delete it

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its not allowed anyways, it doesnt matter

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gave you a min

trim lily
ashen perch
#

anyways

grand flower
#

What a nice mod

ashen perch
#

Qilingham. I like the idea but Qilingham was a little too... idk

grand flower
#

I’m not a fishman I’m killingham

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Okay…

ashen perch
grand flower
#

It doesn’t work as well hm

trim lily
#

fishingham

vital heart
#

@ashen perch apparently the nami and zoro live action actors are caught up w the manga, the others arent

hot cairn
#

I don’t think Killingham is a fishman

trim lily
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he just has sharp teeth

ashen perch
#

this kind of killed my idea for him, which is that he wears the mask to not be a nuisance to his fellow HKs as a half fishman

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but who knows, maybe he is like really really really delusional

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one thing that I did consider

ashen perch
#

is the possibility of another Gunko type situation here

trim lily
#

i dont think we should open up pandoras box for that

grand flower
#

I think captain John is Bonney’s father

ashen perch
#

What if he's basically a glorified slave for the WG? just a Fishman that they were really impressed by and mind wiped him to be... this?

mental lake
#

The killingham is a fishman theory always seemed like a longshot to me

grand flower
trim lily
#

id prefer if he was this fucked up of his own volition

hot cairn
#

I don’t know if sharp teeth should be an indicator of someone being a fishman, there’s characters in OP with sharp teeth that aren’t fishmen

trim lily
#

we've got characters with horns in op that means nothing lol

ashen perch
vital heart
mental lake
trim lily
#

dive too

vital heart
mental lake
#

Vice admiral urban that’s his name

grand flower
vital heart
#

which one do u think it is

ashen perch
#

after being speculated to be a fishman for a while...

trim lily
#

he didnt go out of his way for it, he saw jinbe coming

vital heart
#

this is such a funny name icl

grand flower
#

Yeah

mental lake
#

All Celestial dragons hate fishman though

vital heart
#

"year of usopp"

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"year of bum"

trim lily
#

but yeah his hatred is a bit unhinged even by HK standards

vital heart
#

"yeah I support a bum"

mental lake
#

Year of nothing

hot cairn
vital heart
#

"Half year of Usopp"

ashen perch
#

He did see Jinbe coming but its not like he had to be so unhinged about it

vital heart
#

"Quarter year of usopp"

vital heart
#

"month of usopp"

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"week of usopp"

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"Singular chapter of usopp"

ashen perch
#

Meek are you done

vital heart
#

yes

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did you migrate from robin

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did you abandon her 😭

ashen perch
#

Youre like 24 now, when are you going to grow up

hot cairn
vital heart
#

bruh you think i joined the server in 2016?

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Im 20

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Im turning 21 next month

mental lake
ashen perch
#

okay still a grown ass man

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doing a gimmick from 5 years ago that was already old back then

next estuary
#

So true

hot cairn
urban lodge
#

The Yeti HK will be brainwashed

vital heart
#

😭

next estuary
#

Hop on the Weevil wagon

urban lodge
#

He was originally a benevolent being

trim lily
urban lodge
#

Yeah

hot cairn
#

my guy

next estuary
trim lily
#

what if sommers is brainwashed

next estuary
#

I won’t be here too long I’m chugging a Red Bull in the back of the restaurant

ashen perch
urban lodge
#

It would be funny if he was coping

vital heart
#

@next estuary Real talk, can I ask you a serious ass question?

trim lily
ashen perch
#

it feels that way

hot cairn
vital heart
#

How do I pronounce Euge?

ashen perch
#

20 years old, the clock is ticking man

next estuary
vital heart
next estuary
#

I do ||yooj|| some ppl do ||oo-gey|| or ||yoo-jee||

hot cairn
#

man it sucks that there’s a break next week

vital heart
#

yooj

mental lake
#

Yooj

vital heart
trim lily
#

i never considered someone pronouncing the eu as oo

next estuary
#

It’s basically just Eugene with 1.5 syllables

next estuary
#

Mostly Spanish speakers

ashen perch
trim lily
#

ah

hot cairn
#

I wonder what Oda plans to do with Weevil

vital heart
#

YOUR NAME IS SHORT FOR EUGENE

#

WHY CANT I CALL YOU GENE

next estuary
#

Why would I want to be called Gene

hot cairn
#

I’m surprised he threw him in Impel Down

ashen perch
vital heart
hot cairn
grand flower
trim lily
#

is that true meek

next estuary
ashen perch
#

It is true

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very true

hot cairn
#

maybe the next cover story is about Stussy meeting the REAL Stussy in Sphinx island

next estuary
trim lily
#

it doesn’t feel like we’ve had 3 in a row

next estuary
#

I’ve been going through character development

ashen perch
#

cause we didnt

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that was the 2nd one

trim lily
#

oh

hot cairn
#

remember when people thought we were going to Sphinx island after Wano

next estuary
#

Haven’t had much time to be on discord

trim lily
#

lazy and greedy oda…

ashen perch
#

It might be related to the OPLA actually

#

the break

hot cairn
#

I think so too

vital heart
#

omg wait i figured out how the arc will go

hot cairn
#

Oda wants to force us to watch it

ashen perch
#

is there some sort of big premiere in America? he might be attending it?

trim lily
#

oh right

ashen perch
#

Idk, not been keeping up

trim lily
#

that’s probably it

next estuary
#

Bottoms up fellas

ashen perch
#

maybe theres another

next estuary
#

Hope to chat more soon

sturdy steeple
#

GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS

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Fuckj OPLA

ashen perch
#

Fuckj

next estuary
hot cairn
sturdy steeple
#

I stole Meek's whole flow

stone tulip
#

I mean who knows it does seem to play later on plus Sanji needs to counter one of holy knights so what better way to do that than this arc ?

hot cairn
#

the live action is alright but I hate how it affects the manga

vital heart
#

Loki gets Domi Reversi'd, Shanks comes back. Gunko is still possessed.

Shanks + Luffy + Brook vs DR Loki + Imuko

Brook drives off Imu and frees Gunko.

Luffy beats DR Loki, Shanks kills DR Loki. Loki is back to normal.

@sturdy steeple @ashen perch @trim lily @stone tulip

stone tulip
vital heart
vital heart
next estuary
stone tulip
hot cairn
#

I always said that there could be a new island in there

vital heart
stone tulip
hot cairn
stone tulip
#

Which was out of nowhere

dense haven
#

yall liked the chapter?

hot cairn
stone tulip
next estuary
stone tulip
# hot cairn I expected a vegapunk arc

I mean most of us did but I meant the island itself wasn’t mentioned before until chapter 1059 which was few chapters before the arc start which is funny considering Oda tend to name islands in advanced

stone tulip
#

I just hope they don’t fuck up Vivi that’s all, I am already mixed with the casting already 😭

ornate tartan
#

i didn’t like the hate vivi actress got

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she’s gonna do great

mental lake
hot cairn
stone tulip
stone tulip
vital heart
#

Loki gets Domi Reversi'd, Shanks comes back. Gunko is still possessed.

Shanks + Luffy + Brook vs DR Loki + Imuko

Brook drives off Imu and frees Gunko.

Luffy beats DR Loki, Shanks kills DR Loki. Loki is back to normal.

03/06/2026 theory.

stone tulip
grand flower
#

Imu can flip them back

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They can’t kill them forever

vital heart
#

what

#

yes they can

grand flower
#

They’re gonna get tired curing them before imu gets tired cursing then

vital heart
#

did you not read this chapter bro

#

????

grand flower
#

No

#

You translated it

#

Fuck would I do that for

#

Did you mail my Sbs bruh

prisma idol
stone tulip
stone tulip
prisma idol
#

Shanks isnt near Elbaf anymore

grand flower
buoyant comet
digital spear
#

near Elbaf

#

hes in Elbaf

prisma idol
#

Yes but handle imu....

stone tulip
prisma idol
#

Alone

grand flower
digital spear
#

yeah he did it

grand flower
prisma idol
#

I think we may have different definitions of handle

stone tulip
#

I still do wonder what happened to Brook

prisma idol
stone tulip
digital spear
grand flower
stone tulip
grand flower
digital spear
grand flower
buoyant comet
digital spear
#

Yes, indeed.

grand flower
#

Dragon left off egghead with a lot of reasons to come to Elbaph

buoyant comet
dawn gazelle
stone tulip
buoyant comet
#

Wrong mail box shit

digital spear
#

This is the second time this week I saw someone ping a wrong Mailbox

grand flower
buoyant comet
stone tulip
dawn gazelle
stone tulip
#

Or at least nicknames

digital spear
#

Wait you can vote for Oda in the poll right

urban lodge
#

Shambox

dawn gazelle
digital spear
#

June

dense rapids
#

Can’t wait for a chapter to randomly start with Saturn announcing a speech to the world BBWise

grand flower
#

I’ve been looking after my friend’s dogs

dawn gazelle
grand flower
#

I’ve noticed sometimes they go to areas of the house she usually sits in, like they’re checking to see if she’s home

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Despite their sense of smell and hearing probably being good enough to tell shes not there

grand flower
#

Just dogs and they know how to hold onto hope and optimism better than most OP fans

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Shit is crazy

mental lake
grand flower
#

I hope we see Harald again in the story

dawn gazelle
last halo
#

(insert i'm doing my part gif here)

grand flower
#

Oh I’m just now realizing

grand rain
mental lake
grand rain
grand flower
#

Maybe Mihawk’s fashion sense rubbed off on Perona

grand rain
#

Great, even

last halo
grand flower
#

Did her hat have those plumes preskip? @last halo

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Oh those are flowers

grand rain
#

My next vote will be Porche thoug

last halo
#

the roses?

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go on

mental lake
#

Vote for the GOAT

dawn gazelle
dense haven
#

what yalls favorite usopp moment this arc

grand rain
#

She needs your votes

dawn gazelle
rich hornet
grand rain
#

I just learned you can vote from different browsers mobile

dawn gazelle
grand rain
fallow drift
#

voted for stussy

#

just cant send the clip cuz new member

solid mantle
fallow drift
hearty shore
fading wing
#

So far I've voted Franky, Brook, Kuma and Buggy

fallow drift
fading wing
#

I highly recommend looking up the pic they used for Kuma

fallow drift
prisma idol
fallow drift
#

bonney

fallow drift
#

is it just today?

#

or like

#

is it rarer than that

solid mantle
fallow drift
blazing depot
keen quiver
fallow drift
#

...

honest garden
#

Hurm...

ornate tartan
#

vote for garling

hearty shore
#

nika goated character

blazing depot
#

SHOCKING: Franky voice actor votes for Franky

prisma idol
#

I have no idea what the golden one is

mental lake
prisma idol
#

Ichi solos

dawn gazelle
#

who are some of the underrated character yall think needs the attention in the poll? i'd say Pekoms for me

mental lake
#

wait two days from now

pseudo gulch
#

Remember to vote for Usopp guys

#

And to read Kagurabachi

prisma idol
pseudo gulch
#

He's screaming RobinSmug

prisma idol
#

You know what I mean

blazing depot
#

Voting has power

dawn gazelle
fallow drift
prisma idol
fallow drift
blazing depot
keen quiver
last halo
#

BB goes to great lengths to make sure he's not as distracting as his dad, so as only to attract a mate who loves him for who he is, rather than abs

keen quiver
thick mango
#

bb is similar to luffy

keen quiver
#

Rocks had a real one for a wife

thick mango
#

he might even view relationships as petty/small

dawn gazelle
#

Laffiette, is BB crime partner..

thick mango
#

im speculating bb abandoned his mom

keen quiver
thick mango
keen quiver
#

I dont see it any other way

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He clearly knows what he is

#

And very likely the yami fruit is the fruit rocks wanted

#

Rocks dint know what nika even was

#

So not part of the plan

thick mango
#

i guess i should say

#

maybe youre right in a sense

#

but its not about seeing his dad's plan through

#

its about pursuign a plan for ultimate power

keen quiver
#

Its his own ambition making him want to do this

#

But thats also part of davy's will

#

Being king of the world is not intrinsically a good thing

#

Rocks was also motivated by that ambition