also-manga

[blazing depot]

Meanwhile the average Usopp fan…

[fast pagoda]

He's the goat

[dapper tree]

he got one shot

[iron oriole]

he got Charlos'd

[fast pagoda]

He didnt get knocked out lol

[dapper tree]

he and sommers are jobbers

devil fruit farmers

[fast pagoda]

Yeah bc Oda is a shit writer now lol

[hot cairn]

LMAOO it was deserved, he insulted the goat Jinbe

[dapper tree]

They were always gonna be jobbers

[fast pagoda]

No they werent lol

[dapper tree]

They got into the commander level WITH the power boost from the pacts

[urban lodge]

Jimbei hasn't been the goat since WCI

[blazing depot]

HERE’S HOW ELBAPH CAN STILL BE USOPP’S ARC

[fast pagoda]

Like he has done anything after Wano

[dapper tree]

Jinbei's job is to be chill

And he do be chilling

[urban lodge]

He lost his firefighter job to Nami

[spice cairn]

Its over

[prisma yacht]

I think I'll vote for garp tmr

[distant vine]

Killingham needs to get back up and land a similar hit on Sanji

[iron oriole]

Sanji would just tank it

[prisma yacht]

let it go pasta

[dapper tree]

Sanji would not get hurt like at all

[dapper tree]

never

[distant vine]

Killingham has Advanced Armament

Oda's bringing it back!!!

[blazing depot]

This guy is a token. House Fishman

[iron oriole]

Sanji has an indestructible body

[fast pagoda]

I voted for Gunko thrice so Ill do this now

[hot cairn]

smh, there’s like 1000 OP characters he can’t be in the spotlight 24/7

[distant vine]

Haki conquers all

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah I got this yesterday

[distant vine]

Smoker will be tomorrow

[dapper tree]

recency bias

[distant vine]

Then Carrot

[hot cairn]

that doesn’t matter

[iron oriole]

Power of Love is stronger

[prisma yacht]

golden card

[fast pagoda]

Ill vote Smoker tomorrow too

[dapper tree]

Imu hacking the system

[fast pagoda]

The Holy Knights all have such cool designs man

[urban lodge]

I should give Garp a few votes

[clever idol]

I dont see it being that straight forward because it requires oda to essentially have a methodology for unlocking coc which is a whole diff can of worms . Unless it really is just like "yea i think u have it" and then sanji just whips out acoc

[prisma yacht]

truee garp needs some love and support

[clever idol]

Which is maybe worsw

[fallen meteor]

Killingham so far seems like a horde fighter and not a 1v1 power house but let's see what oda does with him

[prisma yacht]

sommers as well

[dapper tree]

cracker and moria and sugar and perona slam killingham

[prisma yacht]

Wld be funny if he knows fishman karate but calls it something else

[fallen meteor]

I felt like Sommers had more 1v1ness about him with the Gaban scenes

[autumn island]

Shamrock and Shanks are basically Dante and Vergil

[dapper tree]

THEY WISH

[autumn island]

Haha, devil trigger time

[prisma yacht]

there's potential....

[dapper tree]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dmc5-dmc-1

[hot cairn]

he’s probably strong

[fallen meteor]

Probably yeah

[dapper tree]

he's in the commander level

so yes he is but like no not really

[autumn island]

Killingham is giving me Cracker vibes

Fights through other things

[prisma yacht]

Killys nightmares are yc lvl

:p

[dapper tree]

naw

[autumn island]

But equally strong

[fast pagoda]

Killingham is commander level yeah

So he should not be that far below the filthy cook

[clever idol]

Id say as strong as cracker

[prisma yacht]

He's above

[autumn island]

It’s hard to say where they are with the Imu buffs

[clever idol]

Thats fair too

He has regen

[iron oriole]

Killingham Yonko level

[hot cairn]

I could agree with him being as strong as cracker

[dapper tree]

they got into the commander level with the imu buffs

[iron oriole]

self made army of monsters

easy win

that he can just bring back to life at a moments notice

[prisma yacht]

So glue

[iron oriole]

any other Yonko gets cooked, he's just unlucky to face the Yonko crew that's the MC's crew

[craggy vapor]

Probably just copium, but what if Rocks didn’t die because he had a small portion of Imu’s power still in him when bitch boy stabbed him?

[dapper tree]

[fringe escarp]

Don’t join the bums

[dapper tree]

Don't join meek

[fringe escarp]

You’ll fuel their brain cells to off themselves

[craggy vapor]

Can’t join them cuz I’m the original bum.

[fast pagoda]

Sorry I know ive been bitchy today Im just not in a good mood and I really love the Holy Knights lol

[prisma yacht]

🫩and there's break wekk too

[clever idol]

Lol

[clever idol]

Better get used to seeing them get their asses handed to them

[blazing depot]

next week is live action

mattowenslop

[fringe escarp]

Is rocks alive

[prisma yacht]

not looking forward to this♥️🔥

[fringe escarp]

Is Harald alive

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-meme-buzz-year-copy-meme-gif-4668439001950303425

[fast pagoda]

You not ready

[ocean totem]

Loki supremacy

I'm so happy with his design

[prisma yacht]

The dragon or in general

[dapper tree]

Bean, I been voting for Jack and Cracker

[ocean totem]

All of it, I just like Loki

[prisma yacht]

I see

he cool

[craggy vapor]

Looking forward to Super Radical Beam

[ocean totem]

Voting?

[dapper tree]

check pins

[ocean totem]

Franky > Kuma confirmed btw

[prisma yacht]

Yeah there's global voting going on

[dapper tree]

2nd world popularity poll

[fast pagoda]

Every time you continue to speak on the Knights of God I'm posting this

[dapper tree]

3 bums

[rare ivy]

Franky > all

[fringe escarp]

Super franky is at minimum yonko lvl

[urban lodge]

Jimbei? More like jobber

[fringe escarp]

If we get a ascended super franky he may be IMU lvl

Or you could call this super franky 2

[fast pagoda]

2 goats and a bum*

[fringe escarp]

AND THIS 🗣️

[rare ivy]

Ultra Super Franky (coming soon)

[prisma yacht]

Oh man we have users named yamatos sideboob now in #manga

[fringe escarp]

IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND 🐐 🐐 🐐

[iron oriole]

i'm glad i dont go in there

dont even have the channel in my list

[rare ivy]

Sky is the limit for Franky. There are no limits to his potential

[fringe escarp]

Where do we scale super franky 3

[dense haven]

its frankys arc

[fast pagoda]

#manga is impel down level 6

[fringe escarp]

Idk who else could have this as there arc

[next estuary]

One piece is ass

[fringe escarp]

No other strawhat

[rare ivy]

Above Kaido for sure

[fast pagoda]

#also-manga is impel down level 5

[next estuary]

Y’all need to read peak fiction like Usogui

[stone terrace]

Wranky? Wranky.

[fringe escarp]

Wait I’m stupid we know exactly who’s arc this is

[dapper tree]

franky in the commander level

[fringe escarp]

Brook!

[fast pagoda]

Franky will always be the goat that is true

[fringe escarp]

Franky base form is commander lvl

[iron oriole]

funny that its been Robin, Brook & Franky's arc but not Usopp's

[fringe escarp]

Franky shogun is YC+

Super franky? Yeah he’s killing admirals

[dapper tree]

true facts

[fast pagoda]

I do genuinely feel bad for Usopp fans

[fringe escarp]

Kizaru was scared of base franky

[fringe escarp]

I don’t because they’re deluding themselves

[fast pagoda]

It is true they had delusions of grandeur

[fringe escarp]

50 chapters in and they acting like anything is gonna save his ass now

[iron oriole]

the one arc though tbf that Usopp should get something

[urban lodge]

Honestly they've been annoying with the ragnir thing so I don't

[fast pagoda]

But Oda could have thrown them a bone

[iron oriole]

and he's over here screaming

[urban lodge]

Why do they want something so bad anyway

[stone terrace]

The hammer that was promised

[fringe escarp]

I gave up on Usopp after Wano/egghead

[prisma yacht]

there's other things in the list as well

[fast pagoda]

The interview with Jacob Gibson where he talks about "Elbaph being Usopp's One Piece" is like twisting the knife

[prisma yacht]

its not the only thing penny

[iron oriole]

Elbaf has been tied to Usopp since Little Garden...

[fringe escarp]

I expected Usopp to be ass

[rare ivy]

Usopp is hopeless

[stone terrace]

Yall will get usopp riding on ragnirs back and you better love it because thats all he'll get

[fringe escarp]

Usopp sucks out of every strawhat because unlike characters who are also irrelevant in a lot of arcs (Brook), we waste so much fucking panel time on Usopp

[iron oriole]

you shut your mouth about Brook

[prisma yacht]

usopp riding ragnir isn't bad

[cold steppe]

It's normal people are expecting something. But I'm surprised most want a power up, especially since it's been established what kind of character usopp is in enies lobby

[fringe escarp]

That’s not Brook hate

[prisma yacht]

👀

[fast pagoda]

I think the worst handling of a character by Oda was Stussy in Egghead though

[fringe escarp]

I’m saying Brook is a example of a good strawhat

He doesn’t waste my time

[leaden rivet]

It was promised to Usopp thousands of years ago. Trust

[fringe escarp]

He shows up when he has something to offer

[clever idol]

I can keep going

[iron oriole]

hmm okay, i'll you off with a warning

[urban lodge]

Brook doesn't shine often but when he does he really shines

[fast pagoda]

She was like the coolest character there and she didnt di shit during rhe incident lol

[daring ibex]

hi guys

[fast pagoda]

YOU.

[prisma yacht]

Omg it's you

[fringe escarp]

He doesn’t have the third highest panel time out of every strawhat with 1% relevancy

[daring ibex]

usopp is a bum

very original

ik

[thick mango]

Aloha

[rare ivy]

First Usopp needs to be hit badly with karma for hitting Elder Jarul in the head

[fringe escarp]

Lemme actually find the exact rank Usopp is in

Hold on

[prisma yacht]

#1

wasn't that hard

[fast pagoda]

Strike 2

[fringe escarp]

NO FUCKING WAY

USOPP HAS ALMOST AS MUCH AS FUCKING ZORO

[fast pagoda]

It does feel like Oda is done with their character development lol

[prisma yacht]

King for a reason

[fringe escarp]

WE NEED TO KILL HIM NOW

[fast pagoda]

and Usopp is the one who needs it the most

[daring ibex]

usopp doesnt deserve life

[fringe escarp]

This fucking loser wasted thousands of panels on nothing

[prisma yacht]

Tank god

[clever idol]

At least find some new material!!

[fringe escarp]

His best moment in elbaf was fucking drinking alcohol

[rare ivy]

Usopp is going to die

[dapper tree]

I know Zoro doesn't do anything but that seems kinda harsh

[fringe escarp]

Absolute fucking losers peak is getting a 40

[clever idol]

Need yall to direct your anger at oda

Not usopp

[fringe escarp]

Nah this is insane bait

[prisma yacht]

Aren't those everyone's best moments ♥️

[dapper tree]

I was just agreeing

[fringe escarp]

I can’t be mad at Oda any more I think he genuinely has no interest

[fringe escarp]

I’m shitting on Usopp bro

[rare ivy]

Usopp dies on Elbaf

[dapper tree]

Sounded like you were describing Zoro

My mistake

[fringe escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-usernameruhit-one-piece-oda-gif-15086895646318196865

Usopp needs to be erased

Maybe sugar should’ve tagged him

[urban lodge]

We need to kill Usopp before he becomes Yasopp 2.0 and abandons Kaya like Oda said he would do in the GOOD future (Oda is insane)

[fringe escarp]

He alr abandoned his character

[fringe escarp]

He’s on the way to being a deadbeat

[iron oriole]

fucking 81k queue

[stone terrace]

What game

[prisma yacht]

Lmao

[iron oriole]

Path of Exile

new league today

[rare ivy]

Usopp’s days are numbered

[dapper tree]

Are you sure this isn't zoro?

[rare ivy]

Super Franky 3 can handle sniper role along with his current role

[stone terrace]

I have no doubt in my mind that something is coming for usopp ofc

I however have heavy doubts that itll be satisfying

[high wolf]

[hot cairn]

people want him to take Ragnir and freaking defeat Imu lol

[urban lodge]

If it's another Perona gag kill him immediately

[rare ivy]

Usopp is a shitty sniper anyways

[hot cairn]

they won’t be satisfied with whatever Oda does

[urban lodge]

If he gets ragnir kill him immediately

[craggy vapor]

Elbaf is Usopp arc huh

[iron oriole]

i dont want Usopp to get a new weapon, i just want him to recognise himself/be recognised by the Giants as a brave warrior of the sea

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/me-if-u-even-care-gif-13473171566580222692

[iron oriole]

give the guy some character growth

[high wolf]

Bro is gonna be a Van Augur Slayer

[stone terrace]

Why doesnt he shit talk the giants way of life like he did for the samurai

[ocean totem]

I love how Vegapunk is so energy focused

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/saladsaiyan/status/2029977214591074434?s=46

Guangdong Salad🥗 (@SaladSaiyan)

This is fr how I feel being an Usopp fan in Syrup Village vs being an Usopp fan today

X · Mar 6, 2026, 5:47 PM

[ocean totem]

But you'd think like

Franky would've thought of making fuel out of something more energetically dense than regular cola

[rare ivy]

Usopp’s death bed is being set on Elbaf. Will go like a true Elbaf warrior

[craggy vapor]

this ain’t it. If Usopp is anything, it’s been a good sniper.

[dapper tree]

did you vote for vegapunk, bean?

[ocean totem]

I'm about to

[hot cairn]

I think people have very high expectations for Usopp

[dapper tree]

LOL

[hot cairn]

he aint going to defeat Imu or something like that

[dapper tree]

I voted on my phone and on my computer for Jack

[rare ivy]

Don’t remember him being a good sniper after Dressrosa

[unkempt sable]

He’ll get the last hit

[dapper tree]

hacking the system

[dapper tree]

Vega is gonna be top 30 I feel

[unkempt sable]

!cook

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211111343852228638/1217510693411229746/cook.png?ex=66044a31&is=65f1d531&hm=fda7fc91afb3dda1c7a90192efda3372e268931d0bcc5db2b97d635b65b260ae&

[unkempt sable]

Idk he got a lot of haters

[maiden saffron]

is this known?

[dapper tree]

He might be lower cause there are 7 of him

[craggy vapor]

how to vote?

[ocean totem]

I'm willing to take the total number of them all

[urban lodge]

Lilith will be top 40

[opal gulch]

why are there so few people rooting for ida

[urban lodge]

York will be like top 60

[maiden saffron]

https://onepiecewt100-2026.com/en/

[urban lodge]

The others won't make it into the top 100

[craggy vapor]

i don’t see a bote butto

[prisma yacht]

What video

[blazing depot]

They’re tracking bot votes

Bad day for Mihawk fans

[maiden saffron]

the chest they put at the sea floor

[prisma yacht]

Oh

[maiden saffron]

for the marketing stunt

[craggy vapor]

never mind I’m stupid

[stone terrace]

Did my part

[ocean totem]

Both good choices

Chinjao does not get the respect he deserves

[brittle basin]

don't worry, she will be getting my vote tomorrow. and all Ida critics will be "taken care of" in time.

[prisma yacht]

lol so they will recover it?

[urban lodge]

Whinjao

[unkempt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/chin-jao-bounty-rush-gif-3039374110833703486

[hot cairn]

why is there a break

[prisma yacht]

haha there goes the treasure hunt

[hot cairn]

smh

[stone terrace]

Probably opla related

[brittle basin]

Oda hates us

[stone terrace]

Oda is in los angeles right now probably

[hot cairn]

yeah it’s probably because the live action premiers next week

[brittle basin]

HE IS?!

[hot cairn]

freaking live action

[brittle basin]

brb.....

[unkempt sable]

[brittle basin]

on nice, my opinion has finally arrived.

[clever idol]

Rox's hair is so nice

[thick mango]

Freaking manga. Oda should take a break to focus on the live action

[clever idol]

No he shouldnt

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/don-krieg-not-bad-one-piece-live-action-wow-gif-5729231549210468687

[urban lodge]

Live action is the true canon

[clever idol]

Thats a lost cause cuz its inevitably getting cancelled

[opal gulch]

im happy to hear that cause i was gonna blame all the dudes in the discord ignoring her impact which is massive

[brittle basin]

live action gave us la robin, Oda will never recover

[hot cairn]

it’s probably not getting a season 4

[clever idol]

We r talking at minimum 20yrs+ of production

[thick mango]

20 year break is fine

[brittle basin]

Ida is top tier alongside Otohime

[thick mango]

There's plenty of manga, reread it

[clever idol]

Thank god they r redoing the anime

[clever idol]

U can do that

[brittle basin]

Thankfully, they'll cut all the garbage like Enie Lobby, Marineford, Impel Down, and Skypeia so we can get to the good stuff like the raid on Onigashima and Jason Mamoa as Kaido.

[clever idol]

They could cut so much

[thick mango]

Yeah skipping w7 and ennies will let lrll get the full season it deserves

[brittle basin]

oh and water 7, we'll get rid of that too

[stone terrace]

Skypiea getting skipped would be coming full circle

[brittle basin]

I know they won't skip Skypeia after the "Pray to the Sun" song got released.

[craggy vapor]

ironically, a manga consists of more pictures than text. So it’s more accurate to say, “rewatch it”.

[iron oriole]

Only if they make G8 canon

[thick mango]

Showrunner already said they're not skipping skypeia

[opal gulch]

yeah she was awesome, i didnt agree with all the method she did but ida felt like a mother figure and powerful motherfigure at that... she literallly changed harald to a new persona... she accepted loki for what he is and never complained

[brittle basin]

Cast Eminem you cowards

[harsh sinew]

Skypiea is a top tier one piece arc

[brittle basin]

she is quite literally the reason Elbaf changed as a whole.

granted, you can argue that came with some ups and downs

[dapper tree]

He'll be back in season 23

[opal gulch]

im just happy you also noticed

[clever idol]

Nah ur right

[brittle basin]

Buddy, he's already been back. That was Oda reminding us. Next, you're gonna see Conq-infused Krieg, Gin, and Pearl.

[clever idol]

Loki would be much much much more of a demon without her

[dapper tree]

I mean in the live action series, lol

[craggy vapor]

I wonder if Oda modelled Ida after his mom

[brittle basin]

oh lmfao

actor reprising his role at 70 years old

[dapper tree]

But yeah, Krieg is gonna back stab and kill a BB commander

[iron oriole]

I disagree, i think losing Ida hurt him the most & without that happening, i think he would have chilled a bit

[brittle basin]

Krieg kills a God's Knight in the Final War, Oda plz.

[iron oriole]

The HK Dracule Mihawk

[clever idol]

This is what i just said

[craggy vapor]

Krieg lost to a poisoned Gin

[clever idol]

Oh wait nvm

[brittle basin]

He can't keep getting away with it!

[craggy vapor]

I hate it

[clever idol]

Yea idk if agree. He wouldve grown up loveless and harald also would not have changed meaning he would enable this

[stone terrace]

Im definitely alive

[iron oriole]

Honestly the one that hurt the most

[stone terrace]

[brittle basin]

Oda, stop being a broken record and resurrect Ida.

[clever idol]

We gotta remember harald changed because of ida otherwise he probanly wouldve joined rox

[unkempt sable]

Ida will be domi’d

[clever idol]

And loki would be even worss

[craggy vapor]

make the One Piece be the seven Dragon Balls. Roger was early cuz the Dragon Ball were stone.

[unkempt sable]

Bro could have just waited a year smh

[brittle basin]

she becomes this again lol

[fringe escarp]

Acoc or dragon balls which is better

[craggy vapor]

DB

[unkempt sable]

Dragon balls

[fringe escarp]

But oolong can find them

Oda directly states only a handful of the strongest can get Acoc

[brittle basin]

Sanji conq soon

believe in the plan

[tidal ice]

Conqueroring that kitchen

[fringe escarp]

And oda said haki > all

[latent hamlet]

Finding a dragon ball is 1 thing
Finding 7 is another

[latent hamlet]

The seven piece

[fringe escarp]

If shenron was asked to kill a haki user he would say their ceiling is too high

And would tell them to get better haki

[brittle basin]

me when i insult my wife /s

[craggy vapor]

what do you want acoc for? You could wish for wealth, immortality, bring someone back from the dead, being able to fly or a hot girlfriend.

[fringe escarp]

Acoc as stated by oda is > all

[stone terrace]

Hot girlfriend with acoc

[fringe escarp]

Gaban states Acoc > immortality

[stone terrace]

WAIT

[brittle basin]

it's not acoc, but how you use it right?

[fringe escarp]

Acoc > immortality

[brittle basin]

cause gaban used acoc, but they still restored

[craggy vapor]

I see what you did thar

[fringe escarp]

No its acoc

[dense haven]

well yea if a base punch can do it then so can haki

[fringe escarp]

If you have acoc you’re > all

If you have acoc you can kill Goku

[unkempt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/big-mom-one-piece-brook-sleeping-prometheus-gif-19994778

[fringe escarp]

Goku will not be able to damage you at all

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-senator-armstrong-gif-25280817

[craggy vapor]

this game was so good

[brittle basin]

!pasta

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/735731575647502337/unknown.png

[fringe escarp]

Never played but this shit looks insanely peak

[stone terrace]

Why has no one asked who big moms first husband was

[fringe escarp]

If it was out today it would spark agenda

[brittle basin]

streussan?

although...wait that's kind of fucked

up

i regret typing those words

[craggy vapor]

how often did BM marry?

[stone terrace]

Once a year on average

[dense haven]

who says she ever married

[blazing depot]

Streusen groomed her…

Evil ass nigga

[grand flower]

They called the fathers “husbands”

[stone terrace]

Pound was her husband at one point

[brittle basin]

the tontatta husband is still funny

[grand flower]

Tbf grooming isn’t inherently sexual

He did groom her to be a bad person

[grand flower]

Bro was spelunking

[brittle basin]

LMFAO

goddammit shuron

[iron oriole]

People think he might be Perospero's dad too

[brittle basin]

what a word choice

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-hotdog-down-a-hallway-tight-too-tight-salami-werfen-gif-14909371

[grand flower]

If I was Gaban

I’d be living in Ripley like Flapjack and Bubby

[iron oriole]

Whats a worse size diff Gaban & Ripley or BM & her Tontatta baby daddy

[dapper tree]

I think he's like the first several kids dad

[latent hamlet]

BM

[grand flower]

Tontotta for sure

[latent hamlet]

Gaban is human + giant
BM is giant freak of nature + super smol

[iron oriole]

Is BM as big as a giant?

[ocean totem]

no

[dapper tree]

slighty shorter

[ocean totem]

I believe she is the biggest non-giant human out there though iirc

[dapper tree]

She is

[ocean totem]

6 inches taller than Kaido or something like that

[latent hamlet]

Shoe diff

[hot cairn]

I miss Kaido

I miss Wano

[dapper tree]

If only the raid failed

[grand flower]

She is

[dapper tree]

We would still be there

[grand flower]

Me too man

Wano is such a good arc

[grand flower]

Me too

[iron oriole]

Kaido did nothing wrong

[ocean totem]

I like not being in a place that looks like Japan

[tidal ice]

We will see Kaido again trust

[ocean totem]

I really enjoy the non-normal areas the most

[hot cairn]

what could’ve been…. 200 chapters of Wano

[ocean totem]

Whole Cake was pushing it but I still enjoyed

But like Dressrosa, Wano, ehh

[latent hamlet]

The raid failed
Luffy had to get his fleet to help

[hot cairn]

Im starting a reread of Wano, very nostalgic

[latent hamlet]

During the bm kaido combo

Barto jumped in front

And used his strongest barrier to block it

[hot cairn]

what do you think of egghead and elbaph

[latent hamlet]

Cavendish then stabbed BM

[grand flower]

Wanna know something funny?

[hot cairn]

sure

[grand flower]

Everything imu got going on and the one shanks is worried about is Blackbeard

[hot cairn]

I dont mangas that are only situated in a different Japan that’s kinda boring, that’s part of the reason why I love One Piece so much

[hot cairn]

as he should, that’s not surprising at all

[grand flower]

Says a lot

https://tenor.com/view/anton-anton-ivanov-anton-ivanov-zenless-zone-zero-anton-zenless-zone-zero-anton-idle-gif-11420178033065151971

Don’t click random gifs Yall

Wait for them to load

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-no-country-for-old-men-ok-oops-javier-bardem-gif-10579690

[hazy turret]

I want to catch up but I don’t remember the last chapter I read guys

[grand flower]

1127

[hot cairn]

Shanks and BB have been intertwined in the story since BB appeared I don’t think that’s a point for BB final villain tho

[hazy turret]

The last thing I remember was Loki making his way to the treasure room

[hot cairn]

not a fan of Elbaph?

[ocean totem]

Been loving both, Egghead especially

[stone terrace]

Jfc

[ocean totem]

Vegapunk immediately became one of my favorite characters of all time

[hot cairn]

The chapter that ended with Ragnir jumping at him? That’s 1169

[hazy turret]

It’s not that, it’s the break weeks that kill me

Oh wow

[stone terrace]

Need the weekly dopamine consistently or else cortisol spikes

[dense haven]

are you caught up with spoilers tho

[hot cairn]

he’s a very interesting character, Unc Oda still got it

[hazy turret]

I haven’t even been reading spoilers bro

[latent hamlet]

Do u want a tldr

[hazy turret]

Nah, imma read it now

[ruby cape]

You ain’t got much to read

[hot cairn]

this arc has had less breaks than Egghead tbh

Egghead’s other name was Breakhead fr

[latent hamlet]

In another timeline
Elbaf first
Egghead second

What happened

[hot cairn]

let me know what you think of the chapters

[hot cairn]

wdym

[hazy turret]

Will do

[grand flower]

You like brainiacs rihht?

[ocean totem]

Yep

[latent hamlet]

Kid went to elbaf first
Luffy egghead
But what if they swapped places given what we currently know

[grand flower]

I remember you saying that

[latent hamlet]

Because they decided their routes by chance

[hot cairn]

Luffy and Shanks would’ve met and Kid would’ve died in Egghead

[ocean totem]

Yeh, science heads are the best

The way Vegapunk views the world is so great

Energy everywhere, just have to learn how to use it

[hot cairn]

I wonder if we’ll get another Zou type of arc to set up the end of the story

[grand flower]

That’s how I feel about hoes

[latent hamlet]

VP be like

God damn
Look at that world ending fire
Can I convert it into orange juice

[hot cairn]

I just remembered I dreamt I was reading the chapter the burn scar man was revealed

[grand flower]

Lodestar

[stone terrace]

Vp made a mini kuzan

[hazy turret]

[stone terrace]

Would that machine one shot ace

[hot cairn]

But I can’t remember his name

[stone terrace]

LOL

[hot cairn]

fuck

[hazy turret]

Vegapunk is a greedy man

[latent hamlet]

Wonder if the plot would have been imu vs luffy and shanks in elbaf but no vp

[dense haven]

lilith neg diffs akainu

[grand flower]

True

[latent hamlet]

Ace turns into fire
Fire gets eaten
Gets shit out into a juice box

[grand flower]

Damn

[ocean totem]

Nobody's perfect

[hot cairn]

that’s what I think too, but I don’t think Lodestar is after Elbaph

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-mtn-dew-mountain-dew-plastic-bottle-screw-on-cap-gif-21915819

[grand flower]

Yeah it’s gonna be the Luffy time travel arc

Or the start of it at least

[latent hamlet]

"Get your Orangeace Juice!"

[hot cairn]

I think it was a good idea to explore Vegapunk before going to Elbaph

[hot cairn]

wilding, I think it’ll be a new island

[latent hamlet]

Its actually a pretty nice contrast to go from future tech to tradition

[hazy turret]

ig he's the op oppenheimer

[grand flower]

That is a new island

[hot cairn]

maybe where Shanks is

[grand flower]

The one the great kingdom is on

[hot cairn]

nah nah

[dense haven]

who is the barbie

[hot cairn]

tweakin

[grand flower]

Franky

As a human action figure

He’s a doll

[hot cairn]

yep, also Wano was right before it

I’m surprised how isolated this arc has been tho

[latent hamlet]

Traditional japanese to future tech to traditional norse myth

[hot cairn]

I’m excited to see the developments outside of Elbaph

[latent hamlet]

The developments

Dragon: ....
Garp: .....

[stone terrace]

We're going to greece baby

[potent pier]

Man marked by flames arc?

[latent hamlet]

ZOOS
YOUR SUN HAS RETURNED

[potent pier]

Or a dedicated monkey d dragon mini arc

Because we do need to see Kuma on Amazon Lily

[hot cairn]

I think we’ll get a small dedicated arc to another group of characters

Idk which tho

[latent hamlet]

Coby

[hot cairn]

and the crew will go to wherever Shanks is

[latent hamlet]

Crocodile

[potent pier]

Dragon would.be the best though

[latent hamlet]

Hancock

Smoker

Basically all the movie characters

[potent pier]

When it comes to Hancock the only flashback I could imagine her getting a second time is when she put on the earrings after Tritoma's passing

And even then I think it's something we will see in another person's flashback

[brittle basin]

no chapter next week. That means it'll be, what, five weeks or so before we get a Brook update (as a pile of bones and a broken shield)?

[ruby moat]

Well cut back to brook and he’ll be in mariejois with a deep sea covenant on his arm

[brittle basin]

*his bone

Hopefully this upgrade is not a one-off for Franky. Do more cool stuff buddy

punch something else

[latent hamlet]

He'll reform and be just fine

[ruby moat]

Yea she gotta teach him the recipe

[brittle basin]

i'm hoping we get more demonic fighting from imu

[dapper tree]

Imu is just gonna leave

[brittle basin]

imu fighting alongside Loki might be op though, despite how cool it would be

imu is going to leave i know........

thanks to Wrook

[dapper tree]

https://klipy.com/gifs/screw-you-guys-im-going-home-cartman

Imu when nothing worked

[brittle basin]

imu said marijoa was on fire

but was it really?

sure are taking their sweet time

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-fire-krabby-patty-run-gif-7687245848362169061

[formal wagon]

gravel logia is happening any time now

maybe jarul will eat it

"the gravel fruit's true power can only be unlocked by one of great size. the greater one's size, the more gravel."

[ashen perch]

Probably because its not a big deal lol

[grand flower]

Kid is returning 1178 btw

@ashen perch are you ready to learn why now?

[ashen perch]

why exactly 99 yea? because I was thinking exactly 100

chapters later

[urban nacelle]

I heard a fan theory that Blackbeard and buggy are brothers

[grand flower]

I’m at work bruh

Have some consideration

[ashen perch]

dude

you asked if I was ready...

[ocean totem]

weak genes

[ashen perch]

youre not even ready yourself

cmon

[ocean totem]

skill issue

[leaden rivet]

And you never answered the question

[formal wagon]

for him?

[ashen perch]

no I answered it with my own question

why exactly 99 chapters after his defeat?

[ashen perch]

no...

[formal wagon]

99-1 = 98

98 = go mu

[ocean totem]

Isn't it 96?

[formal wagon]

its 56

[ashen perch]

its 56

[formal wagon]

did i snail

[fringe escarp]

Can I ask a question

[ocean totem]

It's 86

[formal wagon]

please god tell me i didnt snail

[ocean totem]

You just did

[formal wagon]

please goda

[brittle basin]

oh i know, but i want to see more of what's going on there.....just not yet, 'cause I want more fighting

[ashen perch]

I think I said it first yea

[fringe escarp]

Is rocks alive

Is Harald alive too since he got domi reversi

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-how-dare-you-questions-numer-one-insulted-gif-4364971497871848964

[fringe escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/pov-me-in-math-gif-13295961694317009105

[ocean totem]

The only way Rocks is going to be alive is if it turns out Imu needed his body to jump into and that's a key to their immortality or something

[ashen perch]

Celestial Civil War/Protests, thats been my idea for while

[formal wagon]

yes

[brittle basin]

oh, uh, welcome back for the 35th time bean

[ocean totem]

Otherwise nah

[formal wagon]

yes

why would rocks be dead

[brittle basin]

i want them to eat each other out of desperation. seinen piece when?

[fringe escarp]

But dorry and broggy live domi

[ashen perch]

Unlikely
And Harald did not get Domi Reversed, he got a HK covenant, different things

[ocean totem]

Dorry and Broggy didn't have a group of people come up and stab them after

[fringe escarp]

But he became evil

That’s domi

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

[ashen perch]

no its different

[formal wagon]

if rocks dies how does he become hiriluk? the theory that he died makes no sense

[ashen perch]

Xebec too lived after Domi

He just

got killed lol

[fringe escarp]

That means he alive

[ocean totem]

No, Garling kills him after

[fringe escarp]

Rocks is alive and coming to elbaf

He will train luffy

[dapper tree]

No

Luffy already stronger than him

[latent hamlet]

Nah
Rocks is alive
But permanently a demon slave

[ocean totem]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[ashen perch]

Why would Luffy train with a guy who is weaker than he was two arcs ago...

[ocean totem]

Ya'll aren't ready for that conversation

[latent hamlet]

He's the boss before the final boss

[dapper tree]

bean

[fringe escarp]

Look at the gifs I’ve been posting @ocean totem @ashen perch

[dapper tree]

I been saying for a million years

[latent hamlet]

Imu gonna be like
"Thou shalt face the strongest member of the davy clan! Go Xebec! Destroy Mu's enemies!"

[fringe escarp]

Now look at who’s asking the question

[ocean totem]

I don't get it

[ocean totem]

Right? Luffy's about to beat on Imu in the next chapter finally

[fringe escarp]

I’m trolling and insulting ppl who’ve been spamming this insanely stupid question for the past 3 days

[dapper tree]

A weaker Imu but yes

[ashen perch]

ah

[ashen perch]

hold on

[fringe escarp]

This is basic reading comprehension

[hot cairn]

nah, they’re not getting attacked

[ornate tartan]

there’s absolutely no fuckin way people still asking if rocks dead

[brittle basin]

i don't think luffy is ready for imu just yet

[fringe escarp]

I’ve probably blocked like 15 people alr

[ashen perch]

now I agree he's beating Xebec, but Imu will have him handled, trust

[fringe escarp]

LMFAO now I know you trolling 😭

[ashen perch]

Imu has not even reacted to Luffy, I think thats an indicator for sure

[ocean totem]

Well no, how'd you think Imu was going to go away?

[ashen perch]

He is not worried, not threatened, he got this

[fringe escarp]

We both know gear 5 minutes is doing jack

[ocean totem]

Luffy's definitely about to beat on Gunko till Imu's gone

[ocean totem]

It lasts as long as he wants it to lol

[brittle basin]

bean doesn't troll lmfao

but it's brook sending imu back, not luffy

[tawny panther]

yeah idk why anyone would think any different lol

[signal fiber]

I hope we get more SH stuff next chapter but I dare not be hopeful

[gloomy tree]

t lasts as long as Oda needs it to last

[dapper tree]

Gunko Imu is going down

[ocean totem]

It may be Brook too yeh, I was hoping for some big Luffy blow doing it

Maybe some Joyboy haki awakening

[dapper tree]

or Imu is just gonna leave

[tawny panther]

Gunko about to get the Saturn treatment from G5 Luffy

[unkempt sable]

Someone brought something up about this recent chapter tgat made it worse for me

[ashen perch]

I feel like Luffy might not be the biggest factor here, ofc he's the MC but the key has to be freeing Gunko via Brook's connection with her

[ocean totem]

Yeh this feels obvious lol

[fringe escarp]

Long enough for him to get bodied and beg for meat

[fringe escarp]

Brook and loki are

And it isn’t even close

Luffy is barely a focus here

[ocean totem]

It'll go for as long as he wants, and if it stops he'll just force it to go again lol

[ashen perch]

Luffy will eventually be the biggest threat ever to Imu, but thats not the case just yet

[ocean totem]

It's not like he gets locked out of the form if he's tired

[fringe escarp]

That nukes his body if he does this

[tawny panther]

it’s time now .. it’s final saga

he’s a threat now

[ocean totem]

Which is something he's ready to do in literally every fight yeh

[ashen perch]

Not the biggest

[fringe escarp]

Not in egghead

[tawny panther]

even when Imu asked Saturn why they let Joyboy escape , bro reason was G5 was too much for him to handle lol

[fringe escarp]

He basically dies if kizaru didn’t betray Saturn

[ocean totem]

He didn't need to in Egghead, and by the time he did he just couldn't move anymore at all

[tawny panther]

if a gorosei admitting that then all that’s left above that is Imu lol

[ocean totem]

'cause he was obese and stuffed

[unkempt sable]

This would have been the perfect end for dory and Brogy as instead of fight others for eternity under each other they could go out against each other

[fringe escarp]

No he legit needed to, there was zero way he could’ve predicted Kizaru saving him

[ocean totem]

He really didn't, his crew was there

What would he have to worry about?

[fringe escarp]

You mean the crew that got no diffed by Saturn?

[unkempt sable]

What if imu came to egghead

[fringe escarp]

And had to get saved by kuma?

[ocean totem]

We must've read different arcs, 'cause the crew stonewalled Saturn and Kuma wrecked him

Saturn couldn't get through the weakest members of the crew ganging up between him and Robin

[fringe escarp]

That was after the flashback

[unkempt sable]

Probably talking about when they got stun locked

[fringe escarp]

I am

[ocean totem]

Yes, which goes to show Saturn can't just get through them

[fringe escarp]

What

[dapper tree]

saturn couldn't actually KO any of the SHs

[unkempt sable]

And then he never uses it again

[fringe escarp]

They literally only escaped because of Kuma LMAO

luffy didn’t predict Kuma would rush in there he basically let his crew die

[ocean totem]

Yes, that is correct

[ornate tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-usopp-nami-zeus-gif-16728485154662061284

[ocean totem]

You must be new to Luffy

[brittle basin]

I personally want them to fight, but I'm worried Oda is going to send them back with a brook song or something. And now there's the possibility of Imu domi'ing Loki - however we could get Luffy and vo. vs domi'd loki and imu (but maybe that's too much power for now?).

[fringe escarp]

You just said luffy would restart his heart if he needs to

[dense haven]

I mean he could he just didn't feel like it

[fringe escarp]

That would be a moment where he needs to

[tawny panther]

Imu/Gunko about to witness firsthand that Saturn wasn’t lying 😂

[ocean totem]

I wonder if maybe his fruit may grant some resistance to it?

[unkempt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-nami-zeus-zeus-one-piece-gif-18096238560023984494

[dapper tree]

he was metally nerfed

[ocean totem]

Like the creature is too willful naturally or something to be taken over, so Loki can resist it

[dense haven]

saturn had nuke spit and brain explode and just decided to throw

[brittle basin]

he attempted to kill luffy, and franky stopped it, but that only would've worked 'cause luffy was old man form

[ocean totem]

No, it's not

Because crew

[fringe escarp]

The crew lost before Kuma came

[unkempt sable]

Even if she didn’t do that much in egghead she still had a couple good moments

[dapper tree]

he wanted to be like King and queen

[ocean totem]

You're saying this from the perspective of someone with a bird's eye view of the situation, all Luffy knew was people were there he trusted to take care of things

[fringe escarp]

All of them were immobilized and Bonney was about to die

[ocean totem]

And he consistently risks lives betting on that trust in every arc

[fringe escarp]

Luffy was literally there and knew this was happening

He wasn’t unconscious

[ocean totem]

Literally chose not to save himself on Onigashima because he had Zoro with him

[fringe escarp]

But this was a situation as bad as what happened in wano

There was literally no hope

They lost

Everyone there couldn’t do shit

[ocean totem]

I mean clearly not, given they do get saved

[fringe escarp]

By someone luffy never predicted to arrive

Aka not his crew

[ocean totem]

Doesn't matter, Luffy having that faith isn't dictating the circumstance

[fringe escarp]

It does because in that moment it was hopeless

[ocean totem]

It doesn't matter whether he's right or not or we think he has good judgement doing it

Luffy chooses to bet on his crew every time

[fringe escarp]

Except wano?

Why was wano the exception

[ocean totem]

It was also hopeless in Onigashima but he still leaves everything to them instead of worrying about how they're doing

Wano wasn't the exception

He nearly destroys the island because he has faith in Momonosuke being able to lift it

[fringe escarp]

Wano was literally the arc he restarted his heart

[tawny panther]

i thought during wano he told kaido he trusted his people to handle everything below including the other yonko when everything was gettin set on fire

[ocean totem]

He almost lets the majority of Wano's population die because of that bet

[fringe escarp]

Which is what you’re arguing was necessary in that moment

[ocean totem]

Well no, it's the arc where his fruit did

When he forces himself into the form again, that's his fight, that's not just everyone else needs help

The crew also all had things to do, Kaido was Luffy's thing to do

[ornate tartan]

pizzaro upscale

[ocean totem]

At Egghead, Kizaru was Luffy's thing to do and he was taken care of

[fringe escarp]

???? Saturn was his fight too

He literally takes on Saturn the moment he can

[ocean totem]

Well yeah, now he has food and gets to rejoin the fight

[dapper tree]

Saturn was not a problem for the luffy

[ocean totem]

He still lays there taking the time to stuff himself silly before getting up to help

[fringe escarp]

But yoyr argument is that it wasn’t “his” fight

[ocean totem]

^ He really wasn't, it's hilarious

[fringe escarp]

Saturn was the biggest threat on the island at the time

[ocean totem]

It wasn't, but then he got food

Why just lay there?

[ocean totem]

Well no, Kizaru was

[fringe escarp]

So now it’s about what’s logical?

[ocean totem]

Saturn was the second biggest threat on the island

[dapper tree]

The only issue was saturn couldn't be kept down but saturn by himself would not be able to stop the SHs and Dorry and Broggy

[fringe escarp]

Kizaru was not the biggest threat on the island lmfao

[ocean totem]

Logic has nothing to do with it

[dapper tree]

Saturn would have been removed from the field had the problem stayed

[ocean totem]

Luffy has a full stomach and his energy back and doesn't like not doing things

[fringe escarp]

Asking why is quite literally questioning the logic

[ocean totem]

Being exhausted and choosing to rely on his team is one thing, but he wasn't exhausted anymore

[fringe escarp]

If luffy’s crew is straight up about to die with zero hope

You seriously believe luffy would let that happen

And not restart his heart

[ocean totem]

Stop saying restart his heart, it wasn't stopped lol

But no, there wasn't zero hope

[fringe escarp]

Restart his heart is referring to going back into gear 5

[ocean totem]

That's your judgement of the situation, not everyone else's

[dapper tree]

I don't see Saturn getting through a sanji, zoro, jinbei combo

Until luffy would get back up

[fringe escarp]

That literally was everyone’s judgement at the time, everyone was legit hoping luffy would get up

Nobody had hope

[ocean totem]

I don't think anyone was hoping Luffy would get up like that

[fringe escarp]

Hoping vs expecting are two diff things

They couldn’t handle the situation

Saturn won

Kuma was not in their minds and was a complete wild card

[blazing depot]

My younger sister called my Gear 5 Luffy figure “Gray Luffy”

[fringe escarp]

They lost

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[fringe escarp]

And luffy assuming he could go into g5 let that happen

The other safer assumption is that he couldn’t

His physical state was worse than even in wano with him in his super old dude form not even remotely looking like himself

[dapper tree]

But like say even then, dorry, broggy, zoro, sanji, jinbei is too much for saturn

even taking luffy out of the matchup

[fringe escarp]

For a escape plan yeah they are

[dapper tree]

They would bully saturn until luffy got up

[fringe escarp]

I agree

[dapper tree]

Even if they decided to fight

Like if it was just saturn

Saturn ain'tr doing anything

[fringe escarp]

The issue is that there were only what

2 strawhats there?

[ocean totem]

We know for a fact this would be wrong, though

[fringe escarp]

Franky and Sanji

[ocean totem]

Because we've seen that he can force out the form while on the verge of death

[mystic flare]

What form?

[ocean totem]

So the only conclusion that can be made is that he chose not to push himself like that and let his crew handle things

[fringe escarp]

In egghead he was visually in worse fatigue than in wano

[ocean totem]

Gear 5th

[dapper tree]

Franky and Sanji could easily fight and stall if it was needed

[mystic flare]

Oh ok

[ocean totem]

Or really all of them I guess lol

[ocean totem]

This is absolutely not true

[fringe escarp]

Not at all

[ocean totem]

He was literally dying in Wano

As in was dead, came back on the verge of it, and even notes that fact

[dapper tree]

wano was so much worse

[fringe escarp]

Luffy before going back into gear 5 actually retained his physique rather quickly

[dapper tree]

for every one

[mystic flare]

Yep

[ocean totem]

There's no comparison here at all, Luffy was just fine in Egghead

[tough igloo]

wano was way worst for luffy than egghead lol

[ocean totem]

He was nearly unharmed

[formal wagon]

luffy only ate food once in wano

he had to eat food 3 times in egghead

[ornate tartan]

plz bring pizzaro back

[formal wagon]

thats 3x harder

[ornate tartan]

we miss him

[ocean totem]

He got to eat food 3 times

[formal wagon]

objectively

[tough igloo]

what happened to luffy in egghead (getting drained) , happened to him in wano too on top of him dying lol

[ocean totem]

Which would make Wano much harder

[formal wagon]

[fringe escarp]

In egghead the old man form remained the entire time he was down

[formal wagon]

wano was a cake walk

[mystic flare]

Shouldn't egg head be harder?

[fringe escarp]

In wano the old man form was present for about a panel

[ocean totem]

Because he chose not to force himself back up, yes

[fringe escarp]

He wasn’t up again when he wasn’t a old man

[dapper tree]

Compared to fighting Kaido, Luffy's 3 fights against Lucci, Kizaru, and Saturn was a cakewalk

[ocean totem]

There's no way to spin this into he was worse at Egghead when Wano was him literally dying

[fringe escarp]

He was still on the ground

[mystic flare]

Since its after wano

[fringe escarp]

Yet he had the energy to go gear 5

And egghead luffy couldn’t

[formal wagon]

if luffy lost to kaido zoro was still there to finish the job, that wasn't an option on egghead

[tough igloo]

lmao what

[dapper tree]

LOL

good one mailbox

[fringe escarp]

Even 6 years later we got ZKK

[ocean totem]

Oh no, he could

[formal wagon]

[ocean totem]

You can't assume that because he chose not to he couldn't have forced it

[hot cairn]

buddy really hates Luffy

[frigid gulch]

Cookbox

[ocean totem]

If he could do it while actively dying and literally fatally wounded, he can do it while tired

[fringe escarp]

I can assume that because his physical body was also still in the old man form, while in wano it wasn’t

He retained that old man form for a FAT minute even while eating

[ocean totem]

Yes, because he chose not to get back up

[fringe escarp]

Luffy was far more fatigued from gear 5 in egghead

[sturdy steeple]

I think it's fair to assume that he could've done that. But after pretty much dying once Wano it took a week for him to get up.

[ocean totem]

That just can't possibly be true

[fringe escarp]

He wasn’t back up when he lost the old man form

[sturdy steeple]

Don't think he wanted that lol

[fringe escarp]

When luffy was still on the ground he wasn’t in the old man form anymore

[ocean totem]

Yeh see, it would make more sense for him to have just let his crew take care of the current situation instead of forcing his body to break down that hard again

[dapper tree]

not even close

[fringe escarp]

It literally lasted a moment

[ocean totem]

In Wano?

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah Luffy knows his crew can do things

[fringe escarp]

Yes in wano

[ocean totem]

When he redoes it against Kaido? You don't see his face, you can't say that

[fringe escarp]

We literally see his body

[ornate tartan]

they already have a new one it’s called ZKL

[ocean totem]

Yes, and he just droops

[fringe escarp]

Even the anime shows it was his normal physique

[fringe escarp]

Panel on the left corner

[tough igloo]

lol can’t wait for ZKBB & ZKI to become a thing

[ocean totem]

Is him still drained, yeh

[fringe escarp]

In that shot he’s no longer a old man

[fringe escarp]

Not a old man anymore tho

[ocean totem]

He had no energy left

He literally can't stand and is about to die

[fringe escarp]

And he wasn’t in old man form anymore

Meaning it wasn’t as bad

[tough igloo]

they couldn’t use the “ZK” in egghead cause he was stuck on Lucci most of the arc

[ocean totem]

Why would you think that? The only thing that goes old is his face

[ornate tartan]

it is man don’t worry, every luffy opponent they do it, I already see people saying ZKMU and BB is gonna be the one they target next😂

[fringe escarp]

Actually his body drooping is the other way

The anime again shows this a lot clearer

[tough igloo]

lmao when Luffy reunites with Shanks … ZKS is coming as well 😂

[fringe escarp]

The exact same scene in the panel on the bottom left

He still isn’t in good shape

Not by any means

[ocean totem]

Oh no, he's never been in worse shape in his life

[fringe escarp]

But that’s still far better than being in the old man form for ages

[ornate tartan]

some zoro fans think he’s stronger then Big Mom RIGHT now

[fringe escarp]

Which egghead luffy was

[ornate tartan]

is that not crazy

[ocean totem]

Because he chose to be, yeh

[fringe escarp]

Nope that requires him to go into gear 5

He wasn’t transforming in that panel

He was in base

[ocean totem]

Because he chose not to, yeh

[fringe escarp]

I’m talking about in wano

[ocean totem]

You really can't get around it when he was in worse shape in Wano and still pushed it out

[ocean totem]

In Wano, he was trying to transform, yeh

[fringe escarp]

In the panel where luffy lost his old man form he wasn’t transforming

[ocean totem]

He did not lose it, stop lol

[fringe escarp]

His hair would’ve changed and his heart would’ve beat

[ornate tartan]

i’m tryna find out what Blackbeards plan regarding getting a seat at the reverie is

[ocean totem]

That's why he's still unable to stand up and shaking, he doesn't lose anything until he actually pulls it out again

[fringe escarp]

Neither happened until the page after

[ornate tartan]

the end of elbaph can’t come sooner

[fringe escarp]

False, again the anime shows this exact panel clearly

[ocean totem]

That's not trying to transform, that IS transforming

[ornate tartan]

lot of updates around the world probably time is moving quick

[fringe escarp]

He wasn’t an old man

[ocean totem]

The trying was him pushing himself up to his feet

[ocean totem]

The anime is irrelevant, and he was still plenty old man

That's why he's like this

Doubled over, can't stand, trembling

[fringe escarp]

The anime especially for this point in wano was our best way to get clearer visual shots of these otherwise badly done panels

[ocean totem]

Body looks worn out

[fringe escarp]

Still wasn’t a old man

[ocean totem]

And it isn't helping at all here

[fringe escarp]

It shows he wasn’t old

[ocean totem]

But it's literally the same as this

[fringe escarp]

Nope since he wasn’t drooling

[ocean totem]

He doesn't change position and his hair is still drooping

[ocean totem]

He doesn't drool

[fringe escarp]

*droppign

*drooping

Fucking autocorrect

[ocean totem]

Oh, yes he was lol

Luffy's position doesn't change, he just kneels there wheezing for a moment until he gets up to restart Gear 5th

And his hair drooping down means he was still in his old man form, the anime doesn't change that

It's unfortunate we have to use the hair, but yeh, the wheezing and drooping are still in that panel even though you can't see his face just judging by the hair

[formal wagon]

1% of the pain he felt when saturn looked at him

objectively

[ocean totem]

And naturally, there's just no way to argue he was in worse shape in Egghead compared to being about to die and still tearing energy from his body

[fringe escarp]

Yet in egghead he was perma old man even while eating a fuck ton

And actively took ages to come back

[ocean totem]

Between that and Luffy's character that's been driven into our heads for years now, the only reasonable conclusion is that he just had faith in everyone around him to handle things instead of him going on the suicide charge again

[fringe escarp]

He misplaced his faith clearly since his crew failed

[ocean totem]

Or he just didn't think about it, everyone gets frozen like just as the food gets to him and he just sits there eating no matter what

[ocean totem]

Doesn't matter, fact is he did it still

[ocean totem]

Of course, he didn't push him way out of the form

[fringe escarp]

It does matter because it actively makes him look incompetent

We would have to genuinely assume he’s a moron for trusting his crew

[ocean totem]

He didn't get out of it during Wano until he actually started going into Gear 5th, you're mistaken about him no longer being all dried up and old

[ocean totem]

Welcome to Luffy

You've missed the point of the iron clad blind faith in friends

That's a pretty huge theme in just about every arc

[fringe escarp]

This isn’t a valid point when the show has went out of its way to justify his trust

In this arc he was out of the count

[ocean totem]

It's one of the biggest parts of his character

They don't have to justify his trust for him to trust them, he does it by default

[fringe escarp]

They alr justify his trust in the story

[ocean totem]

He even does it as they're actively screwing up a situation and even while attacking him

[fringe escarp]

Like constantly

[ocean totem]

This is a hardcore part of Luffy's whole journey as a captain

No matter what he trusts his crew

He literally bets the life of everyone in Wano on that fact with no proof that they can do anything about the situation except knowing they'll figure it out

[fringe escarp]

And yet he chose to keep fighting Kaido and not trust his crew to hold him off

[ocean totem]

He's not in on any plans, he's not helping direct any efforts or paying attention to what anyone is doing

He just knows they've got it handled

[fringe escarp]

“His fight” is irrelevant when several others went out of their way to fight Kaido

[ocean totem]

"His fight" was the highlight of the fight

Luffy declares directly that he wants to fight Kaido

Just like he wanted to fight Kizaru