also-manga

[cursive summit]

One piece from generational peak to generational trash

[pine scaffold]

The pacing has been extremely fast

[outer flax]

Undying body mean it's will never die but clearly that's not the case

[ashen perch]

you guys dont be reading man...

[unique lagoon]

when corpo made this guy write something for 20+ years without getting tired

[ashen perch]

like its literally right there

[unique lagoon]

oops

[cursive summit]

It's over for oda bro

[ashen perch]

it just means they have regeneration, undying body is not accurate

[lofty fern]

You are relying on the english choice of words. And the english language is renowned for have several ways to say the same thing. You can blame Stephen Paul if you like

[outer flax]

Idk both tcb and viz state the same thing

[cursive summit]

Huh? They can't regenerate

[outer flax]

Only sandman can help

[ashen perch]

??????????????

its one thing to not pay attention to the chapter, but to ignore a singled out image that I posted?????????

[unique lagoon]

we talked about this last time

[lofty fern]

They can, it was seen in this chapter

[ashen perch]

they literally regenerated from the wound they gave to each other lol

[latent hamlet]

Its the piccolo regen

"Guys we can keep chopping off their limbs it won't do anything!"

"What about the head?"

"....we should have tried ngl"

They regen everything except the actual kill strike

[cursive summit]

So they can Regen but they can die? What?

[golden valley]

G5 drums of liberation reverting DR would’ve been infinitely better

[ashen perch]

yeah we did

[outer flax]

Wound regeneration is different than undying body
I expected like holy knight who don't die even after their bodies cut down to several pieces
But it could be translation issues

[rose rune]

gunko upscale

[latent hamlet]

They should just take a gun and shoot them in the head

[cursive summit]

So oda just decided to make the biggest bullshit ever

[unique lagoon]

are you still comparing it to rocks situation?
cuz rocks had CoC defense
Which is not shown with these giants

[latent hamlet]

Dorry Broggy came back cuz they chose literal decapitation

Imagine if they missed their swing

[outer flax]

Also domi reversi fight was rushed and that's why it's not satisfying

Atleast we should have seen domi reversi dorry and broggy attacks

[golden valley]

Domi Reversi plot point was useless

[outer flax]

Situation should feel somewhat urgent

[dense haven]

so losing the entire upper half of your body is not a kill strike

[ashen perch]

isnt this how it works in zombie media too? where any kind of regeneration or undeadness is countered by simply cutting off the head of the zombie

[lofty fern]

This also happens when people want to point to Gaban saying "they are not immortal" and then trying to hold "immortal" to the iron-clad rule of the english definition. Here, undying is refering to the regen factor they have. That's it

[pine scaffold]

This chapter might be more controversial than Bonney Nika

[unique lagoon]

i rarely see people pointing out that these DRs can use CoC defense IF they had em or can use them

[pine scaffold]

insane

[latent hamlet]

Not enough

[golden valley]

I literally am not sure what was gained

[dense haven]

did it break the internet?

[cursive summit]

Were you the one I argued with regarding the immortality thingy?

[golden valley]

That chapter is EASILY better than this chapter

[latent hamlet]

Some zombies can only be put down with head destruction/decapitated yea

[golden valley]

Its not even comparable

[outer flax]

That's true

[pine scaffold]

in a bad way this time

[golden valley]

Bonney Nika stuff had payed off build up and feels

[unique lagoon]

need to remind me which part
the one where they can die? but not die

[outer flax]

Ig major reason why people don't like this chapter because how its was too easy to figure out domi reversi weakness

[latent hamlet]

And in certain media, regeneration needs like...
Either head destruction or complete annihilation

[lofty fern]

It's similar to the series Highlander, where you can try to kill the immortal in all kinds of ways but the only way to actually kill one is to chop their heads off

[cursive summit]

Yeah this just makes no fucking sense

[latent hamlet]

I think Wolverine's regen is stopped if u fuck up his head

[outer flax]

Dorry and broggy figure it out by themselves

[unique lagoon]

atm im separating rocks way of dying
and how these giants dying
it is NOT the same

[dense haven]

people said they didn't want haki to be the answer to everything

[ashen perch]

Theres tiers of regeneration, we can see that already. Domi Reversi seems to be more like a Zombie, doesnt need any special abilities to be countered. HKs need ACoC to be damaged. Imu and possibly the Gorosei are immune to even ACoC damage.

[dense haven]

aint yall happy now

[cursive summit]

How?

[unique lagoon]

imma just copy paste it hold up

[golden valley]

The tier of regenerative powers goes like this

Imu > Gorosei > Holy Knights > Marco > Domi Reversi

[cursive summit]

So we admitted that rocks didn't die after getting shit on by Roger and Garp?

[distant vine]

Why us 🥲

[lofty fern]

That is incorrect, at least in some versions of the comics. I've seen Logan destroyed to nearly nothing and still come back

[golden valley]

Logias technically regenerate but only against conventional attacks

[outer flax]

We need satisfying conclusion to plot points

Domi reversi giants plot point turn out to be boring .
No sense of urgency and lackluster way to reveal weakness

[latent hamlet]

Lot of media tend to go for the head as the true decisive end

[unique lagoon]

here u go

[latent hamlet]

Ye it depends
Tho destroying his head/brain does work in some cases

[unique lagoon]

dorry and broggy aint using as much stamina as rocks

= haki

[ashen perch]

Yea, I think Oda is definitely inspired by that sort of idea here. Decapitation being the key to beating a regen user isnt something thats being done for the first time here lol

[shrewd topaz]

Could be also a factor

[ashen perch]

I am surprised that people dislike this, you guys have gotta understand, theres gonna be hundreds of thousands of Domi Reversed Demons at some point

[unique lagoon]

i dont know why yall ignoring the haki draining feature

[outer flax]

Expected usopp to play a key role in reversing dorry and broggy

[unique lagoon]

lol

[shrewd topaz]

I beleive the duration could play a part but not sure

[golden valley]

Im kinda scared for Usopp as a character if he gets nothing this arc. The pace the arc is moving is scary

[lofty fern]

That might be it, though it might just be because he was taken out in a different way

[dense haven]

is it over for usopp fans yet

[ashen perch]

Its not like Oda's gonna give ACoC to all of the SH alliance in the final war, that would just be ridiculous. This is actually perfect.

[unique lagoon]

im not even talking about how rocks got turned
compare to dorry

[dense haven]

can we finally put them down

[golden valley]

If Usopp gets nothing, then I will openly admit Oda is washed and should just kill off usopl

[distant vine]

Idk man...I guess we'll see how this plays out with other characters

[unique lagoon]

i should edit an image so i can spam it everytime this comes up

[shrewd topaz]

I meant rocks was on dr longer than dorry and broggy imo

[cursive summit]

This is just a whole lot of bs

[lofty fern]

I don't think all of them can kill either, especially depending on the foe

[pine scaffold]

I really wanted a cool Dorry and Broggy fight

[unique lagoon]

ok how

[golden valley]

I also wouldn’t put any stocks into any strawhat except the monster trio

[unique lagoon]

its easy to explain

[dense haven]

vs who

[outer flax]

I understand why people dislike it .
It was too rushed .simple as that.

Domi reversi answer reveal wasn't bad but the execution of entire scenario was just way too easy

[golden valley]

No usopp moment in elbaf is character assassination

[outer flax]

Lack of urgency and care

[pine scaffold]

Zoro and Sanji or something

that'd be cool

[distant vine]

People really thought Dorry and Broggy would be enough for Zoro

😂

[cursive summit]

There's no mention of stamina drained. It stated that you fully recover after dying

[latent hamlet]

It does feel awkward cuz then its implying that what rocks did to the Davy demons weren't true kill shots lol

[cursive summit]

There are no exceptions

[lofty fern]

Also, I wouldn't put it past DR to have other twists to it. It seems to be solved for now, but that's just their guess. If a piece can be flipped once, it can be flipped again. That's the nature of reversi.

[golden valley]

They honestly should’ve been

[pine scaffold]

Watch Killingham get defeated next chapter

[outer flax]

Dorry and broggy should have been some threat in domi reversi considering their status

[golden valley]

Dorry and Brogy being > Zoro would’ve been way way way better

[outer flax]

But they were done in too easily

[cursive summit]

It's either that rocks did not die (bullshit)
or rocks did indeed die but oda is inconsistent like he always is (also bullshit)

[ashen perch]

I mean execution is fair, though I will say, we're clearly in an upward trends in the arc. The big "hope" phase, as long as Imu stands though, he can flip it right back to despair.

[golden valley]

Thats not inconsistent

[outer flax]

I expected usopp to do something to bring dorry and broggy back temporarily

[ashen perch]

?? Garling killed him anyways?

[golden valley]

Rocks is dead

[unique lagoon]

what do you mean? roger and garp got KO using that much stamina
SURELY that can happen to rocks

[cursive summit]

It's inconsistent bro

[golden valley]

Please drop rocks

[ashen perch]

Xebec did not die to Roger and Garp's attack lol

[golden valley]

Rocks is dead

Hes literally dead

[lofty fern]

Well, it is because they were turned back, but he did all kill/kill them in the process. So it could be he thought he was double tapping them, but they had actually be rising up okay and he tragically killed them a second time

[ashen perch]

Xebec died to Garling

[unique lagoon]

are we reading the same pages lol

[cursive summit]

What about garp and Roger?

[unique lagoon]

wat

[cursive summit]

Bro what tf are you even saying

[ashen perch]

Garp and Roger were so exhausted by the fight that they couldnt even move lol

[latent hamlet]

Thats kinda funny ngl

WE'RE BACK TO GAAAAAH

Rocks: DEMONS, RISING FROM THE DEAD

[ashen perch]

all 3 men were exhausted, completely

[unique lagoon]

you remember roger and garp got KO cuz of the amount of haki ye?

do i need to pull panels?

[latent hamlet]

Roger and Garp put themselves to sleep for days lol

[lofty fern]

I think he probably was, that's why they thought they killed him, and his body was returned to his other non-demon form

[latent hamlet]

Or at least
A while

[digital spear]

Have you guys figured out the Domi Reversi thing

How does it work

[ashen perch]

tbh, that whole thing was always weird to me, cause it seemed like Garling was the one who converted them. I guess the regen tier might be even lower for them.

[digital spear]

I respect the results this evening

on my desk

[golden valley]

Yes

[outer flax]

Yea I don't like the upward trend for alliance but entire scenario of domi reversi giants should have been done way better.

We didn't see a single attack from domi reversi dorry and broggy on random giants and also jarul was never once in trouble.
There was no sense of urgency and stake.
Like compare it to when parents desperately tried to save the children ,that bring up the stake and emotions

[digital spear]

explain it

[golden valley]

So basically

[ashen perch]

I get it, these guys dont

[unique lagoon]

no one knows cuz we dont know if umu has different versions of it and its perks

[lofty fern]

We won't know until given a full explaination

[unique lagoon]

its all IFs

[rose rune]

yes, you flip them off until they become so angry that they ignore damage. but once they die you flip em off again, making them live out of spite

[golden valley]

And so, that sums up Domi Reversi.

[dense haven]

its whatever oda fells like at the moment

[ashen perch]

I mean I will just tell you to wait and see, the upwards trend is only odd if it continues on, I just dont think it will. I think everything is about to go wrong for the alliance

[unique lagoon]

this was not done to rocks
and no one can explain that clearly

[digital spear]

Amazing

[lofty fern]

You get the parts you currently see, adding your own conjecture to make it work. But you don't actually get it, not really Lol

[pine scaffold]

When Brook clashed with Imu, thats the moment I knew something was wrong

[ashen perch]

no I get it

[pine scaffold]

that shouldnt be possible

[ashen perch]

fully

[dense haven]

brook might be dead

imu vaporized him

[digital spear]

Pls explain

[barren token]

Brook literally deserves it

[ashen perch]

notice how he hasnt been seen since that attack that he allegedly blocked, what does that tell you

[golden valley]

True

[unique lagoon]

ngl i want to see DR brook

[pine scaffold]

Brook ain't dead man

[golden valley]

No brook appearance lol

[dense haven]

we haven't seen brook in a while he's cooked

[digital spear]

He is

[golden valley]

Buddy literally got offscreened lmao

[lofty fern]

then you must be Oda. Give us the directions to that treasure chest!

[rose rune]

brook has been domi reversied

[ashen perch]

the attack that you guys incorrectly believed was blocked actually defeated Brook

cmon

[barren token]

Brook loves to fight people 100x stronger than him, have a cool moment then get no diffed off screen

it's his 2nd favourite activity after sexual harrasment

[ashen perch]

Brook got oneshotted and everyone is in denial I am afraid

[latent hamlet]

U know

Imagine if demons dorry broggy actually did kill jarul

And then they got turned back to normal

[digital spear]

Any explanation would be fine for me

[golden valley]

Tbf, I said next chapter could prove my thoughts wrong

[unique lagoon]

brook face off 1v1 with BM
now with Imu
he really is a beast of a bone

[golden valley]

And it did

[outer flax]

Easy solution to most intense build up section of the arc is just not it

Hopefully oda deliver the rest

[golden valley]

Brook “blocked” it like how Zoro blocked Hakai

Aka, he didn’t really block shit

[pine scaffold]

This was such an insane moment

Looking back on it with all the new chapters feels sad

like all the MMA's got beat by Loki

Sommers got clowned

Killingham too

[outer flax]

I don't mind mma getting beat by loki

Same with sommers

[latent hamlet]

Killer Ham had to lose
He was racist

[open mirage]

Id say hes dead but well..ya know… skull joke 🤷‍♀️

[outer flax]

Actually sommers is great and interesting villain

[ashen perch]

Basically, they have the lowest tier of regen. Superficial attacks do not work, they can recover from their wounds and keep on going. But in the case of an instant fatality, they won't recover.

[lofty fern]

If you think Killy was taken out by that, you're a fool

[ashen perch]

genuinely what were you expecting

[unique lagoon]

also he called it dream demon
what happened with nightmare name?

[latent hamlet]

The MMAs were just cool monsters to set up for Loki

[pine scaffold]

He ain't losing yet, but he will in like 2 more chapters

[open mirage]

Whos dentis is about to be the happiest man in the world

[latent hamlet]

[digital spear]

And Rocks has a higher tier? How do we know that

[lofty fern]

The names seem to vary by translation

[pine scaffold]

Expecting for them to last longer

[ashen perch]

How do you people hype up Loki as the strongest thing ever and then at the same time complain that he is easily dealing with the monsters of a guy that is several tiers below him?

how does this compute

[outer flax]

Sommers is great
Killinham is great

Just oda fucked up the domi reversi plot line

Elbaf was going perfect otherwise

[open mirage]

Finally im diagnosed as a straight up fool

[lofty fern]

I'm pretty sure he'll last longer than Summers. If Sommers can keep coming back, Killy sure will

[unique lagoon]

maybe you talking about a separate group of people

[golden valley]

Oh yeah, Oda absolutely embarrassed the MMA’s so bad across several chapters that he decided to “Let’s continue to use the MMA’s as punching bags for Strawhat hype moments” Am I supposed to be hyped that Franky and Jinbei teamed on a MMA? Like for real? I think the coolest thing in that chapter is Franky FINALLY getting an upgrade

[unique lagoon]

[ashen perch]

no I dont think so, the same thing happened with Xebec lol

[barren token]

most intense build up section of arc
Imu is right there

[latent hamlet]

He has to be the strongest
But has to equally match the enemy

Every1 else has to get curb stomped

[lofty fern]

Also, I was waiting for one of the HKs to talk about Jinbe. It would have actually been strange if they hadn't

[ashen perch]

I am talking about SB and his people

[outer flax]

True but it's was still hype because Zeus life was in stake atleast

[unique lagoon]

it is funny how imu just chilling being menacing in the distance

[outer flax]

Better than domi reversi imo

[latent hamlet]

"Im using my summoner build leave me alone"

[golden valley]

It is better yeah

But Jinbei getting reduced to that is just baffling

[outer flax]

Dream monster is done anyway

[golden valley]

Oda is just essentially trying to give the strawhats anything

[outer flax]

It was cool moment

[pine scaffold]

Jinbei hasn't been that great this arc tbh

[outer flax]

Regardless

[lofty fern]

I mean he's not the strongest ever, and he's basically dealing with fodder

[ashen perch]

its not really meant to be a big deal lol, its just cool

[outer flax]

Dr loki vs straw hats incoming

[golden valley]

The combo attack should’ve been Jinbei and Sanji

[ashen perch]

Oda didnt present it as a big deal

[digital spear]

Thats what im wondering about, Roger and Garp gave all their strength into beating Xebec and passed out, and Xebec was dying as well and Garling gave him the rest, or was Xebec not dying and just laying around?

[golden valley]

On killingham

[pine scaffold]

and we all know how it ends

Loki will get saved

[ashen perch]

he just showed how they casually dealt with it, its not supposed to be a big deal lol

[outer flax]

Disagree

[open mirage]

Wont lie this domi reversi balance update from oda makes me curious about imu’s powers origin more

[outer flax]

Sanji defending jinbei is poetic if you read the series

[lofty fern]

I think after last week, the fact that he's not here this week is telling.

[golden valley]

Its a waste of pages

[unique lagoon]

just watch how gunkos arrow DF will easy wrap around lokis wings and crash him in the ground
This WILL happen

[ashen perch]

cmon

[barren token]

Loki comes in with his dragon form then gets jumped by 3 mmas and dies instatnly

[ashen perch]

if anything, we should be getting more pages of this

[open mirage]

Honestly rare sanji W

[golden valley]

im serious lol. We didn’t need more MMA bullying

[ashen perch]

the crew just being cool and competent and having no issue

[digital spear]

What is? The strawhats attacking the monsters?

you serious

[ashen perch]

dealing with these lower tier monsters

[outer flax]

I like mma way more than smile imo
They are coolest creature

[unique lagoon]

luffy will try fighting gunko but the arrow ability will confuse the shit out of him
being all comedic goofy again for like a couple of chapters oda will delay him

[lofty fern]

Also, I do wonder, how much will Dorry and Broggy's lost lifespan factor in

[latent hamlet]

Did people really hype up MMAs to be these super threats

[outer flax]

Lifespan part will never be relevant

[latent hamlet]

I just thought they were cool monsters to be taken out for a quick bit

[unique lagoon]

its because of gaban

[stone terrace]

They are threats

[outer flax]

If loki wasn't there ,mmas would have destroyed the entire elbaf

[stone terrace]

And can be infinitely respawned

[ashen perch]

I think Xebec was exhausted after having that extended fight with Roger and Garp, like they both were after fighting him. Dorry and Brogy barely even did anything to be exhausted.

[golden valley]

Why not both…? It doesn’t take away from the moment if you add Jinbei, the one who gets payback when people talk shit about his race

[latent hamlet]

Luffy lifespan cut to a 10th of what it is but he's still fine probably

[grand flower]

I think what can be at play is Imu cursing Rocks with a different method and also Rocks using supreme king Haki to fight

[digital spear]

So his wounds healed?

[golden valley]

You’re genuinely telling me Jinbei teaming up on MMA’s with franky is better than teaming up on Killingham with Sanji

[latent hamlet]

Ye
But thats just hypothetical in the end

Like...otherwise Killer Ham would have just made demon giant Nika luffy V5

[lofty fern]

I think they should have some issue, which they did have this arc so that was good. They were basically dominated this entire arc. If it wasn't for Gunko's lapse of control for a moment, they would still be tied up. Except maybe for Robin thanks to Sanji. I like to see them have to struggle and even fail rather than just always succeed

[unique lagoon]

yes the meta answer is they are just hype tools for the protags to 1 shot
like how franky and jinbe did

[outer flax]

Idk why you insist on jinbei and sanji attacking together

Sanji defending jinbei from racism and also attacking killingam is way more epic imo

[grand flower]

It’s funny how people trash on them for losing to Gunko as a Yonko crew, but then also get mad when the SHs overcome an obstacle

[golden valley]

Again, it still carries the same meaning

[ashen perch]

I mean yeah??? Garp blasted a million holes through his body and Roger cut his leg and they all come back when he is out of Domi Reversi

[outer flax]

Agree

[grand flower]

It reminds me of how piratefolk thinks Haki is making fights boring while also saying it’s bad writing that the SHs are a Yonko crew and so many of them don’t use Haki

[golden valley]

Threats until the relevant fighters show*

[outer flax]

Franky need haki after this upgrade ? Don't think so

[ashen perch]

They would have an issue with Qilingham and Sommers I am sure, but these monsters are whatever

[digital spear]

that makes sense

good work guys

[unique lagoon]

cuz scalers hate the idea that their fav none top tier character cant compete at the highest level
when DF+COC+COC defense is at work
also regen

[digital spear]

(Arsal)

[grand flower]

They’d be mad that franky abandoned science because “Haki is all that matters”

[lofty fern]

I mean, they are. Did you see what they did to the giants in the very beginning? They are not something to be passed over as nothing. Without Loki, they would be overrun with these things. They can't die, and they keep respawning.

[ashen perch]

its really not all the complex, its on the contrary

a little too simple

I guess again, when I think about my Celestial Domi Reversi idea

it makes sense to me that this is the counter after all

[digital spear]

I like how people dont try to explain it and are just like "well its Oda" if its that easy

[outer flax]

It's was just rushed plot point
Explanation was just correctly but wasn't executed the best

[lofty fern]

I don't think "whatever". You needed several strawhats to take out just 1 and even if you do that, they just keep coming back

[golden valley]

Killingham can easily make the MMA’s more dominating again by pulling nightmares from people that have a better understanding of their strength

[digital spear]

this is true it felt too quick

[grand flower]

Arsal Chan are you excited for Macho Giant Hajru Savage

[ashen perch]

Yeahh

[golden valley]

Like Gaban commented

[outer flax]

Dorry and broggy suddenly regaining consciousness and killing each other out of nowhere was kinda what

[grand flower]

I think you mean OHHH YEAHHH

[outer flax]

We never saw them attack on any of the giant or jarul

[ashen perch]

well my take on this was controversial when I said it yesterday

[golden valley]

what take

[outer flax]

We expected something from usopp against domi reversi after this badass speech

But oda fucked up usopp again

[latent hamlet]

They regained consciousness when they hit each other by accident

[ashen perch]

I think Imu will just snap his fingers and Domi them back right away as soon as he wants to

[latent hamlet]

Usopp L

[unique lagoon]

you guys think this mf will showup?

[latent hamlet]

Imagine bringing them back because of an accident

[ashen perch]

I don't think this is the last we're seeing of Domi Dorry and Brogy

[digital spear]

"We" "again" bro just making assumptions to slander Usopp

[ashen perch]

I still believe, in destiny...

[golden valley]

Could be false hope

[ashen perch]

yeah I think so

[outer flax]

Accidents in sense of urgency is good but that was just too easy

[digital spear]

Hopefully

[buoyant quartz]

holy peak

[unique lagoon]

yeah nah im not buying this is all imu has
imu WILL use more resources soon

[outer flax]

Usopp new power

[latent hamlet]

Guys I got it

To stop the demons
Make em hit each other

[outer flax]

Delusion

[ashen perch]

False hope and also, Oda's taking out Dorry and Brogy temporarily so that Zoro and Sanji can focus on the HKs

[golden valley]

I dont know I just lost faith. I think this DR plot is over and at best applies to Loki

[outer flax]

Offscreen incoming

Domi reversi vs giants and zoro will be offscreen

[ashen perch]

once they are dealt with, we'll go back to THE matchup. ZoSan v Dorry and Brogy

[digital spear]

Yeah Loki would be really hard to beat still

[unique lagoon]

these dialog alone just telling me its just going to be whatever goofy fight
they all comeback to normal

[outer flax]

Don't see it happening

[outer flax]

Offscreen fight
Don't expect anything

[unique lagoon]

yep

[outer flax]

We will return to them when everyone become normal

[unique lagoon]

this is not that the epic cool wicked battle scalers waiting on

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-professor-x-illuminati-illuminati-dr-strange-professor-xavier-gif-26021431

[lofty fern]

That would be funny, and I would like that a bit more. It is reversi after all. You should be able to flip them back and forth. Like if you kill their good versions now, will they flip back to demons again?

[unique lagoon]

who knows maybe zoro will actually fight DR nidhogg

that would jizz their pants

[lofty fern]

Usopp WISHES he was as good as Charles Xavier

[rose rune]

kinda wanna make another no mustache edit for hajrudin

[digital spear]

Well in that case they would be immortal

[unique lagoon]

aint that the lebron beard

[stone terrace]

The abe lincoln

[rose rune]

I dunno. Lebron is a US thing

[ashen perch]

Skill issue. I can see it happening, its literally playing out in my head right now.

[outer flax]

Didn't you expected the same thing in wano and that's why you like it less ?

[digital spear]

Oh yeah be careful Arsal

[outer flax]

Domi reversi will become good again when it's loki turn

[unique lagoon]

[ashen perch]

Interesting

[digital spear]

Some things dont happen even if they should and then we get disappointed

[digital spear]

Zoro kills Loki

[languid juniper]

read the chapter and the reversal was so ass, cut their heads off and back like nothing happened

[unique lagoon]

ZKL lesgo

[digital spear]

I mean HONESTLY

[buoyant quartz]

Not my fault my way is better

[languid juniper]

meanwhile rocks

[outer flax]

I thought usopp will bring back dorrya nd broggy to consciousness

[unique lagoon]

(but loki revives anyway )

[odd rune]

what did you guys think about dorry and brogy this chapter

[outer flax]

But what will usopp do now M

[digital spear]

Loki gets Domi Reversed
Zoro vs Loki
Luffy vs Imu

[languid juniper]

never expect anything from that bum

[digital spear]

Wroggy

[unique lagoon]

HOLD UP this guy on to something

[odd rune]

i want to see them argue over who won

[unique lagoon]

i was wondering earlier who zoro fights

not sommers thats for sure

[outer flax]

Rushed
No single attack from them on random giants or jarul
No sense of urgency and done too quick
Feel undercooked and lackluster

[languid juniper]

hated it

[odd rune]

i think undercooked is the right way to put it

[unique lagoon]

what are the chances IMU spawns more HKs
maybe a couple of gorosei?

[digital spear]

Killingham is the only one I could see but its not necessary

So it could be

[odd rune]

i feel relieved a little that everyone seems to agree

[unique lagoon]

i can already see how SH deal with killingham

someone takes killingham horn that controls the dream monsters so thats useless soon
so killingham will use his base form to fight without summoning
there might also be some personality issue that makes him lose also vs sanji

[grand flower]

Damn legit no one cares about how Reversi is played

[prisma yacht]

@buoyant comet dm me the art you sent earlier

[unique lagoon]

if one HK dies dies
then that would fuck up imus body = opening for luffy or loki do fuck him up

[grand flower]

Or that Loki can be cursed

Maybe

[unique lagoon]

im not even including brook mind fucking gunko imu

[odd rune]

yeah i dont really care how reversi is played

[unique lagoon]

so imu will drop something big soon

[ashen perch]

I think the ultimate solution is still going to be linked with Luffy, but yea, as long as Imu can will it, I think the board will just be flipped back again.

[clear cobalt]

“The kingdom of lulusia was never real”

[grand flower]

That don’t tell you Imu can most likely just flip em back

[ashen perch]

Been thinking about it, the covenant should still exist. The contract should still absolutely exist

[grand flower]

?

[unique lagoon]

its real dammit
this is the plot oda planned

[odd rune]

that wont happen

[unique lagoon]

big ass dragon vs big ass ancient weapon
it fits

simple ass

[clear cobalt]

Would be cool

[prisma yacht]

Honestly imu just turning them back and back again wld be brutal

[ashen perch]

So Imu should still ultimately be able to reverse it again

[grand flower]

Yet you’re so sure that Reversi is undercooked instead of an ongoing development

[odd rune]

i think the dorry and brogy moment was undercooked

[latent hamlet]

Loki's ultimate move
He shoots his lightning breath into the sky
It triggers a storm
A lightning storm that falls down like lasers

[rapid ridge]

I just imagine a zombie shanks arm coming out of the abyss an beating the living hell out of buggy

[grand flower]

Let’s see how the arc goes

[rapid ridge]

Floaty arm vs floaty man

Thanks arsal

[unique lagoon]

wait yeah loki can control the storms

[odd rune]

given almost no time to grieve and there was very little build up to the actual moment, felt very abrupt for such a cool moment

i think it'll be great in the anime at least

[latent hamlet]

Imu: fire the weapon

Loki: I am the weapon

[grand flower]

I wouldn’t get myself worked up about it when they can be cursed again

[unique lagoon]

we always go back to skypeia huh?
this mf oda man

[ashen perch]

Eh I didn't mind it, it was a full scene

[odd rune]

it just wont happen shuron

[grand flower]

Why would I believe that?

Just to make myself upset about it? lol

[odd rune]

would feel completely redundant unless theres something new to add

[grand flower]

Sounds like a waste of time

[odd rune]

them getting cursed again sounds like a waste of time lol

[ashen perch]

Look you could be right or he could be right, I'm not necessarily seeing where the confidence is coming from macks

[grand flower]

Yeah it would demonstrate that they can’t rely on brute force because they will fatigue before Imu becomes unable to curse them again

That’s conflict

They would need to find another solution

[latent hamlet]

Wano was the element of fire

But this is oda's actual favorite element
Lightning

[rose rune]

what we need is a scene of "you may have defeated the weakest holy knights, but there are far stronger holy knights out there"

[grand flower]

Idk the word for it

I wanna say shameful

But the way Yall have just ten toes locked down on the interpretation that bothers you when nothing is definitive yet

[ashen perch]

Again lets think about it, Imu made a contract with them. This is something that he didn't even do with Xebec.

A contract with the devil cannot be nullified so easily I feel

[grand flower]

Is wild

I feel like I’ve been watching people work themselves up since the spoilers came out

[unique lagoon]

thats a perfect good point
imu made contact with tentacles

why ignore that

no circle also

[grand flower]

A contract vs infected

See this is rhe kind of thing Yall should be doing

[rose rune]

Imu: "you may have found the one piece Luffy... but I already own two one pieces!!"

[grand flower]

This is more productive

[ashen perch]

Yeah, a contract is much more similar to what the HKs have.

[grand flower]

Lolol

[unique lagoon]

imu has contracts to all this it seams
rocks giants and HKs had it

[ashen perch]

And we saw it play out with Harald, his mind returned briefly but he said he'd soon go back to being his slave anyways

[grand flower]

Also they very strongly associate them flipping back with what restored them and rocks never flipped

Rocks just changed

[ashen perch]

Yup

[frail kindle]

not only is it more similar, its literally what the HKs have lol

[grand flower]

If imus powers are based on a magic system or are a magic system, it makes sense it’s very conditional

[odd rune]

i wouldnt feel like i got baited if the moment continued to develop though shuron what im saying is that the indiviudal moment between dorry and brogy felt undercooked and low stakes because of how abrupt it was

[grand flower]

Magic tends to be “Devil in the details”

[odd rune]

i dont care if it continues or not really it wouldnt change the moment in this chapter

it would just make it more redundant feeling unless the development added anything

[ashen perch]

True true

[grand flower]

I’m saying them being susceptible to being cursed again would just make that scene one part of an ongoing conflict

[latent hamlet]

In most fictional media u gotta do a bunch of crazy shit to get the contract null and void

If not by doing another favor, then destroying the contract entirely

[grand flower]

The abruptness wouldn’t matter because that’s just part of something bigger

[latent hamlet]

Otherwise that shit stays with u for eternity

[unique lagoon]

just post the panel of HK contract to Dorry contract lol its that easy
go compare

[ashen perch]

Xebec was just infected, he didn't make a "diabolical convenant" with Imu like the Giants

[latent hamlet]

Rocks was directly infected by imu, if that matters anything compared to magic circle bs

[grand flower]

I gave you something it adds and you ignored it

[odd rune]

the abruptness wouldnt matter in terms of the overall conflict to be overcome but as a single emotional moment it still feels undercooked and abrupt so idc

[grand flower]

Judging something meant to be taken as part of a whole as an individual thing sounds like a bad idea

[odd rune]

so yeah if thats ur point i agree but its not what im talking about or most people i think

even if they assume that its the end of the moment

[ashen perch]

Its a full scene, building off of what we got with Zoro a couple chapters earlier

[grand flower]

The moment is in service of something larger

[ashen perch]

I wouldn't call it abrupt at all personally

[sturdy steeple]

Shuron, who are you voting for? Gaban?

[grand flower]

Separating it from that larger thing doesn’t make sense to me

[languid juniper]

how are feeling about the convenient gadget from Lilith?

[unique lagoon]

thats a contract ye?

[grand flower]

Oh yeah I do need to

[unique lagoon]

top left

[grand flower]

I wonder if you have to refuse the contract for Reversi to take effect

[sturdy steeple]

I’m thinking of rotating Sommers - Gaban - Sanji.

[unique lagoon]

i dont get this

[grand flower]

That’s a solid roster good taste

[ashen perch]

Its an order, its not a magical circle based diabolical convenant

Go see it in 1150

[unique lagoon]

aint that semantics

order contract obey me im god

[odd rune]

i'll gladly take back what i said if it continues to develop interestingly and in a way that makes the moment this chapter feel less undercooked

[ashen perch]

Contracts are binding

[frail kindle]

the contract is the tattoo they get

the domi reverse is some other shit

against their will

[odd rune]

but i dont see a way that could happen because the emotion of the scene is solitary and just serves to bolster the overall conflict

[grand flower]

Like, because the Reversi flips you, it works inverse of how a normal contract would

Normally you’d agree to a contract. But Reversi requires the person to refuse the contract

[unique lagoon]

what about this? this aint a contract?

[frail kindle]

thats not a tattoo

[latent hamlet]

The thing is if we're linking imu to classic devils and devil contracts

The victim is willingly accepting the contract

[odd rune]

like what continuation of the moment do you actually suggest would help to serve my problem with the scene

[unique lagoon]

why is the tatto important for a contract

[odd rune]

i dont see it personally

[grand flower]

The emotion of the scene exists regardless ans you still haven’t addressed that fatigue would create a conflict to overcome

[unique lagoon]

why cant it be different types of contract

surely theres variety

[grand flower]

I’m more so confused on why so many of y’all have decided to be dug into the assumption it won’t happen

The arc isn’t over

[latent hamlet]

Imu infected rocks while giving his orders

There wasnt any vibe of a "willing person submitting to the devil"

[grand flower]

It probably is

[latent hamlet]

Some1 check the harald contract acceptance bit

[unique lagoon]

then why are people against this idea
its not like its a dumb one it makes perfect sense
imu is all great and powerful afterall

[odd rune]

my problem is with how the scene is given to us shuron i really dont care about whether the conflict continues or not because again unless the scene meaningfully builds upon that moment that has seemingly very much reached its emotion catharsis, the conflict barely adds to the emotion of that scene

[grand flower]

So just digest the emotion of the scene and keep on

Maybe I can’t understand this

[odd rune]

i feel like you just attached your own thoughts onto my comment without actually understanding what i was talking about the whole time

[grand flower]

Yeah I don’t think I get where you’re coming from

[unique lagoon]

all i care about is if it makes sense in the verse oda established

[frail kindle]

this is the only reason why I say domi reverse is different, because the gorosei mention only 3 stages

it also seems to not have any drawbacks to imu, unlike the covenants

[odd rune]

my point is pretty clear its just that it's obvious to me that the emotion of the moment is over and done with and i think it doesnt land very well because it feels undercooked and abrupt, and that any continuation of the overall conflict (i.e. dorry and brogy get cursed again) wouldnt remedy how this otherwise very cool moment didnt land for me

[craggy vapor]

Y’all, there is someone I like. She used to watch One Piece when she had Crunchyroll but she stopped watching it ever since ahe cancelled Crunchy. I offered her to give her episodes via a USB drive but she refuses because “it’s illegal”. How can I convince her that’s ok to watch pirated OP?

[grand flower]

I guess I don’t see the problem since the moment progressed the plot by showing they revert if they’re killed. It didn’t feel abrupt to me, it just felt like a link between different points in the plot’s development which makes up for the fact that they didn’t actually die

[frail kindle]

invite her over to watch it

[fringe escarp]

“Be patient”

[grand flower]

And knowing what Imu is capable of and how Reversi is played irl gives me the knowledge to make conclusions on how the conflict will continue here

[odd rune]

im just given so little time to grieve or digest when it could have felt like way more pivotal of a transition

give me like a chapter or two of doubt at least

[grand flower]

Grieve for what when they’re not dead

[cosmic hamlet]

Lol

[grand flower]

Oh hell naw Yall woukd be mad about Oda milking a fake out if that happened

I’ve seen these games before

[unique lagoon]

we can just settle with instead of calling it contract call it absolute command mind control order

[craggy vapor]

Damn, I’m stupid. how could I forget the most obvious choice here?

[odd rune]

i dont do that

[fringe escarp]

He’s saying to drag it so we don’t know if they died immediately

[grand flower]

I commend you

[fringe escarp]

So the moment actually sits

[languid juniper]

i just ignore him, through out the arc he has done nothing that suggests he'll get any better

[boreal holly]

This is so clearly building up to Usopp's moment lol

[frail kindle]

you're welcome

[fringe escarp]

“Clearly”

[grand flower]

I don’t see the point in selling them being dead when the point is just to set up the next stage of dealing with the curse

I get where you’re coming from now tho

[fringe escarp]

Mainly to build the drama

Cuz that scene is gruesome

[odd rune]

i can obviously see that its meant to transition from one plot point to another and explain to us how this thing works

but its such a cool and pivotal moment that could have been handled with more grace

[languid juniper]

gruesome yet they reverted back in the same panel

[odd rune]

it is absolutely more meaningful if we get to see what it means to other people

[grand flower]

You wanted it to be more dramatic

[odd rune]

but it quite literally is a matter of three panels before they resurrect themselves

i think its plenty dramatic just feels anticlimactic

[grand flower]

I get where you’re coming from

But holy shit woukd the fandom be insufferable if he did that

[languid juniper]

exactly

[grand flower]

I see the vision you’re going for but OP fans hate that

[rose rune]

doctors hate him

[odd rune]

i'd have preferred if oda ended the chapter with it lol

start out the next chapter with this

[grand flower]

Like I’m reading yoi describe this ans I’m thinking “I don’t think it’s necessary but it does sound emotional”

[unique lagoon]

whats the build up towards that anyway
zoro has a plan he did the plan
made them dmg each other
then skip to them suddenly snapping out of DR to killing each other then regen back
= oh thats how it works lol lets have fun killing these guys

[odd rune]

more of a build up would have been nice as well, i remember the thing with zoro obv but that doesnt rly cut it for me idk

maybe usopp coulda seen it happen and that sparks a bit of a monologue

[grand flower]

Back in TB years Zoro probably would have had half a chapters worth of fighting them

[languid juniper]

but then next chapter we see them turning back, my issue with this is how they are back again like nothing happened, they should be out of commission and not jump straight back into action

[odd rune]

im sure you can understand that i'd prefer if things werent in the absolute most condensed form that they possibly could be

cause this really feels like that

[grand flower]

Mmhmm I see what you mean by condensed

[languid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[unique lagoon]

my easy explaination with this one is
its a stamina thing

[grand flower]

You didn’t think it had as much time to breathe as it could have

[unique lagoon]

which can be expanded but i think you get what i mean

[grand flower]

I can see this having more time in a different age of Oda’s life

[runic dock]

They just sliced each others necks , it’s not like they did as much work as rocks or Roger did during their fight with DR

[languid juniper]

to me anything about imu's ability right now feels like a last minute thought

[unique lagoon]

also imu took a chunk of their lifespan
will that even make a difference
oda has done this before

[runic dock]

Using all that haki

[odd rune]

oda is definitely very good at making sure the important stuff gets included and thinning parts that arent important but just because its not strictly neccessary doesnt mean it makes the manga better by removing it and obviously oda knows that as well its just disappointing to see such a genuinely fantastic moment hit dull for me bcuz of this

cause it really is such a cool moment

[unique lagoon]

i can simply cope that this is just low tier imu power
like 30% GV imu was like 60%
the main body is way powerful
but sabo escaped that one so i dunno

lol

[languid juniper]

literally decapitated yet its fine? magically their head attaches back, they went with a fatal blow it doesnt matter if they put in the same work as Rocks, there should be some drawback

[runic dock]

Idk about cool , it’s more necessary than cool , this latest DR scenes with the giants , it’s actually HILARIOUS On the last page tht they’re sarcastically broken hearted over the one thing they love to do which is fight and make war

[odd rune]

yeah that was rly funny

[runic dock]

Yes??? That’s the ability lol , the only difference is haki was used with rocks , that’s why he’s tired

[unique lagoon]

they realize they can basically just do a sparing event without killing em
which they love

[runic dock]

Literally decapitated and it’s fine yes that’s the ability

That’s the point

[odd rune]

but i think its definitely meant to be a nostalgic emotional cool moment that just gets zero time to breathe

[unique lagoon]

this is how shanks and mihawk battled btw

[iron oriole]

Its funny that DR Rocks was defending with Conq

"Kill me but i'm gonna defend to make it hard for you"

[odd rune]

in a matter of twenty seconds i digested that dorry and brogy sacrificed themselves by ending their epic century long duel climatically by decapitating each other into them being alive and also lets fight now

[unique lagoon]

yeah way different compare to herald
why tho

its the nidhogg buff i guess

• ragnir ofc

[runic dock]

I think it’s because he got hit with DR straight from the source , his tendrils as opposed to standing on a circle

So it was harder for him to resist

Theory tho

[unique lagoon]

why did the dmg on herald made him snap out
while the dmg on rocks dint

[runic dock]

I think also cause of what I said

Tendrils vs circle

[unique lagoon]

i swear its just a potent parasite thing
that went in rocks body

[languid juniper]

matter of source Ig or Oda is just making last minute decisions

[iron oriole]

Harald is a proper contract so idt we should discuss them in the same way as DR Rocks

[unique lagoon]

literally being possessed by a demon

[runic dock]

Oh wait you said Harald

Nvmd

[unique lagoon]

a separate entity

[runic dock]

He should be different yeah

Different abilities

[unique lagoon]

thats why these DRs have 2HP bars

theres another layer
kill the parasite first

[unique lagoon]

dint rocks and herald got same amount of dmg before the final attack

both was using CoC defense

[runic dock]

I’m dumb and was reading this as giants , not Harald

[unique lagoon]

thats fine im just confirming

[runic dock]

Cause giants also were able to lessen their hold a bit

And I think it’s cause of different method used essentially

Circle vs tendrils

[unique lagoon]

what made roger+garp attack different from a full on HK contract that made him snap out

you would think an HK contract is more potent with the mind wipe

then again rocks mind was not wiped

[runic dock]

That part could be as simple as they’re different abilities so different limitations

[iron oriole]

I wouldn't be surprised if in Haralds case, it was the fact that it was Loki doing it that caused Harald to snap out of it

[runic dock]

Especially if it’s a DF in the end causing all this

[iron oriole]

Like just Loki being the one to take Harald down, forcing that on his son caused him to snap out of it

[unique lagoon]

yeah this is my main take for now tbh
its just listing down the difference is important for later on

[runic dock]

I notice DR and HK have opposite advantages

You literally can’t kill an HK with killing blows

But if you somehow do

They actually die

[unique lagoon]

we also need to consider that rocks was very powerful might even have VoaT buff
herald being an ancient giant and that could affect the mind thing

[languid juniper]

So all they have to do is cut the turned giant's headoff. Why did Oda made it look like we need coc if its that simple

[unique lagoon]

emotional response stuff like gunko

simple as

good job oda

[languid juniper]

or provide a fatal blow

[runic dock]

Because a strong character had DR, if Loki gets it, they’re gonna need CoC again

[stone terrace]

Domi reversi was never the hk pact

[runic dock]

And just luffy won’t be enough

[iron oriole]

Conq will be required when it comes to HKs

[stone terrace]

That was a conclusion that was jumped to

[iron oriole]

DR is different

[unique lagoon]

also rocks will was demolished cuz he thought he killed his family lol

he gave up

[stone terrace]

Garp and roger used acoc because thats what they fight with its their strongest ability

[iron oriole]

They also needed to because Rocks was using it to defend

[unique lagoon]

what is similar with HK pact and domi
extra power + mind control + regen

[languid juniper]

not much of threat then, the strong needs to be careful now. Oda gotta reveal the criteria for DR

[unique lagoon]

now whats the difference
it affects imu if they die and can teleport?

• wifi mind talk

[tawny panther]

so domi reversi - just kill them and they go back to normal

HKs - have to remove the mark with acoc then kill them with acoc while the mark is temporarily gone

Gorosei - i assume will be the same as the HKs

now all that’s left is to find out how to deal with Imu

[tawny kraken]

just overwrite the mark with a new one

[unique lagoon]

where did you got the mark being removed temporarily

cuz we see sommers getting obliterated

[iron oriole]

Harald

I assume

[unique lagoon]

ngl im just betting on this whatever strong emotional response/will power

if an HK is willing then they are lost forever

[tawny kraken]

harald seemingly regained "conciousness" when the mark was injured and started losing it again when it regenerated

[unique lagoon]

consider he tried so hard to stop it

so his strong will might have made it possible + lokis haki dmg

while rocks even if only DR lost his will and gave up

you can say the same thing with dorry and broggy

the elbaf giant pride/will is so strong they can somehow snap out for a moment

[tawny kraken]

I was wondering about that, were they really just literally talking to each other?

or was it something like voice of all things like with rocks?

[unique lagoon]

i would say its almost the same amount of time as herald snap out

[tawny kraken]

with what lilith said and all that

[unique lagoon]

wait no herald was longer cuz the dialog

but he is stronger than them

bottom line its an elbaf will buff

[iron oriole]

Idt its VOAT but i also don't want to say they were just straight up talking to eachother, its weird

[unique lagoon]

let me read that again i forgot what the speech bubble look like

[tawny kraken]

I looked at them, they don't look any different from zoro's for example

oh wait

[unique lagoon]

they talked first
then internal monolog for both of em

[tawny kraken]

unless zoro could also hear them

[unique lagoon]

theres also some flashback there which just ignore cuz we cant tell how long that is lol

[tawny kraken]

hey wait a second

[tawny kraken]

ODA YOU HACK

[unique lagoon]

thats not a headshot tho

[tawny kraken]

where'd they get new shields so fast

[rose rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwDMi8CSbwQ
i love that my reaction to this was: "why the hell is bink's sake so bad"

[unique lagoon]

oh the shield yeah

no idea

[iron oriole]

It probably regened

[unique lagoon]

their weapons transforms also so its part of the package i guess

which i want to point out a very cool demon version

like this is a very cool looking blade

[iron oriole]

When the HKs regen, they also regen their clothing etc so probably regened the shields

[unique lagoon]

thats like from those fantasy ARPG weapons

[tawny kraken]

also broggy's* arm

[rose rune]

stump

[tawny kraken]

exactly, did you finish that pic from yesterday?

[rose rune]

no, that was just a rushed sketch with no plans to finish

[unique lagoon]

this is the inside on some bucklers
he can just put his stump there
which what it looks like

[tawny kraken]

I guess that's for the better

[rose rune]

handling that without the grip would be hell

[unique lagoon]

warriors man go figure

[tawny kraken]

man I can't find my own edit

[unique lagoon]

yep def a stump now

[iron oriole]

Was interesting that it never regened the gap

[tawny kraken]

there ya go, took me longer to find than I care for

[unique lagoon]

right that wrist got obliterated by the pellets

[iron oriole]

You'd think since DR gives regen, that it would have regened the missing gap in Brogy's wrist/arm

But ig its a situation of "it cant regen damage prior to DR"

[unique lagoon]

yep im just going all in on gill

[tawny kraken]

seems it can't regen what's gone beforehand

[unique lagoon]

invisible creature making it float

[iron oriole]

Yeah it never healed, just stayed floating

[unique lagoon]

what if the gorosei has no host like an HK
they are just pure parasite goo but sentient

[maiden saffron]

who

[unique lagoon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shaking-my-head-11

[tawny kraken]

what if gill invented the buster call

[iron oriole]

I wouldn't be shocked by it tbh

[unique lagoon]

their dialog just sounds not human thats all i got from it

also facial expressions

[cosmic hamlet]

Hellooodheuwvennagysbsv

[unique lagoon]

actually nvm they are def host bodies
cuz they have scars

there goes that

[buoyant comet]

Nah gang I deleted it out of shame

[iron oriole]

I always thought they were at very least "possessed by the Zoans will" ever since Saturns arrival on Egghead, its just the way he talked about setting foot on land after summoning himself

[dense haven]

the cold truth about this chapter is that oda HAD to make reversi easier to beat or else hajrudin and co would do literall nothing the whole arc

[grand flower]

Me in high school when acid spilled on my hand and I told my classmates “focus on finishing the experiment”

[unique lagoon]

yeah i think the scars alone is enough
they got converted after they got it

[leaden rivet]

Gilbert Arenas

[unique lagoon]

the former HK into gorosei really fits now

or they where special warriors from old days that imu captured or fooled into joining

[grand flower]

Venus calls living things”bio-forms” and called their Voices “bio-signals”

[unique lagoon]

wat real?

missed that lol

[grand flower]

In Egghead

[unique lagoon]

+imu can rewrite memories

[iron oriole]

Part of me wants to say this is from a previous user of Puddings fruit

[unique lagoon]

reminds me of BB multiple DF is a cheap copy of imu

same with doffy wanting to be immortal

[vernal ravine]

doffy is like a imu wannabe but he is much cooler

[unique lagoon]

but oda did say DFs power can overlap sometimes
similar stuff

he also said DFs varies between user personalities

[stone terrace]

Well moreso just how you use it

[stone terrace]

But some are so straightforward there really isnt any other way to go about it lol

Like machvise and the lady in baroque works

[heady lava]

whats going on gng?

[unique lagoon]

that fits with what i said before that sugars df iirc is named
hobby hobby fruit ye?

[iron oriole]

Yeah, can't imagine someone using the Jacket Jacket fruit differently

[urban lodge]

Every time I see the name Machvise I can only think of his tail that I didn't know existed for like a decade

[heady lava]

yo unc kierran

[hot cairn]

tail?

[unique lagoon]

so it would depend on the users hobby it just turn out sugar loves toys
so it could be hobby about pets = zunesha

[heady lava]

remb me?

[unique lagoon]

[heady lava]

nah

[iron oriole]

No

[urban lodge]

Yeah, he has a tail

[hot cairn]

wtf

[heady lava]

dude we had a fricking arguement about robin's laugh unc kerran

[iron oriole]

New phone who dis?

Oh

[unique lagoon]

more new fresh accnt

[heady lava]

remb me?

[iron oriole]

I wouldn't call that an argument

But i memba

[heady lava]

uhhhhhh yeh technically

it wasnt an arguement

anyways what going on chat gng

someone upd me

[unique lagoon]

latest chapter

[heady lava]

1175?

or 1176?

[dense haven]

are you socrates

[stone terrace]

Implying the first thing socrates does wouldnt be glazing loki

[iron oriole]

Yeah no way its Socrates

[urban lodge]

Maybe it's evil buggy

[hot cairn]

did evil buggy got banned or something, I havent seen him in a while

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-in-hat-baseball-bat-gif-25723238

[iron oriole]

Oh yeah ig this chapter killed the Killingham is a Fishman theory

[digital spear]

or confirmed it

[iron oriole]

Idk this doesn't give off "same race as me" vibes

[dense haven]

oda hates fishmen why would anyone think that

[stone terrace]

Im ruling out uncle ruckus theory because even if killingham had no choice but to be a fishman

The other cds would damn sure look down on him

And the hks treat him as a comrade

[iron oriole]

I bet the Fishman racism comes from them evolving to be able to live underwater

[dense haven]

no its because they're stupid fish

[iron oriole]

Especially with Imu seemingly wanting to flood the world, "how dare these insects evolve to live in my world" type shit

[rose rune]

if anyone's going to gag, it'll be me

since I have GERD

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-elbaf-elbaph-gerd-gerd-one-piece-gif-13426843117785943575

[rose rune]

her mom kept vomiting, that's why she became a doctor

saddest backstory in one piece

[unique lagoon]

does loki have the most depressing backstory so far

[maiden saffron]

no robin does

or law

[iron oriole]

Loki's is up there

[unique lagoon]

was born
mom tried to kill him
unc abused him
dad too busy
found step mom that loves him
stepmom got killed for shitty reasons
forced to kill dad

that dont compare to robin man

[iron oriole]

Idol got killed by WG too

[stone terrace]

Op characters competing for who had the worst coming up

[unique lagoon]

wait yeah

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[unique lagoon]

oh and lola denied him

oda is so fucked doing this to 1 character

got stabbed by 3 headed sword dog while chained

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/pookiepiece/status/2029890821269389668?s=46

😹

Pookie (@PookiePiece)

onepiece Character Popularity Contest says that they will remove any fraudulent (bots , fake) votes

X · Mar 6, 2026, 12:04 PM

[stone terrace]

Nice

[soft tangle]

Usopp votes will plummet

+aura

[unique lagoon]

that must be some insane tech they have if they can carefully check each vote if its sus

[iron oriole]

Mother tossed him off the tree
Uncle abused him
Father was barely around
Idol died
Became close with Ida
Starts to consider Ida his mother
Ida gets poisoned
He kills the people who poisoned her & their village
In Jail while Ida dies
Finally gets out
Father dies by his hands due to Imu
Escapes to sea
Denied by Lola
Random Red haired fuck shows up, beats you & brings you back to Elbaf
Chained up for 6 years
Random Red haired fuck shows up with his gf
They beat you & stab you

[stone terrace]

Denied by lola be fr

Hes gotta get over that

[unique lagoon]

oda really wants us to feel bad/like loki

thats his only solution
sob story = loved character

[iron oriole]

It probably meant nothing overall tbh

Compared to everything else that is

[iron oriole]

Whats crazy about this is that Loki remembers Estrid throwing him off the tree

[tawny panther]

Harald when talking to Loki told him that imu was gaining back control so to hurry up and kill him and as he said it , Oda focused on the mark coming back …

Shanks also mentioned the same thing to Gaban

since the mark is what gives you the new abilities and it seems being destroyed can remove those new abilites

[pallid niche]

Shanks needed a sea king's help to remove his mark

[distant vine]

Still coming to the realization that we just got Franky buffs

Didnt even get foreshadowed, just dropped on us

[pallid niche]

my theory is that Mihawk is the same and that's why he wants somebody to succeed him as the world's greatest swordsman

so they can cut his sword arm off, and rid him of the mark

[distant vine]

I forgive you for the Nami SBS Oda (50%)

[deep chasm]

wonder how big the buff is

can franky beat a commander now

he was beating sasaki in wano, so maybe if its a big enough buff he could fight someone like jack, I do still doubt hes winning tho

[distant vine]

We could take him doing an attack side by side with Jinbe very literally

As the best case scenario

[keen quiver]

The only correct choice

[sly belfry]

kuzan level

[stray prism]

Franky is planetary level

[golden valley]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-ksi-speed-trying-not-to-laugh-speed-laughing-gif-15969897472035948306

[maiden saffron]

not sure how much i like this explanation for death returning them to normal

[unique lagoon]

yeah i remember this
but what about sommers getting obliterated
did he also snap out of it?

[maiden saffron]

will have to see more of it

i was totally sure that loki would use conquerors haki and force it out of them or something lol

[pallid niche]

🤷‍♀️ it's the best way i can think of to tie Zoro's fight with Mihawk into the greater plot

[unique lagoon]

thats like laughtale arc that duel

or before laughtale when all 4 emperors clash or most of em

[pallid niche]

maybe. i just think that Mihawk is almost certainly from a celestial dragon lineage but resents it much like Shanks

[steel stirrup]

@prisma yacht

[stray prism]

Franky does deserve a vote

[rich hornet]

Franky has been tied for the best SH like since thriller bark

[stray prism]

Rip

[steel stirrup]

My queen

[ashen rose]

Since post water 7*

[hot cairn]

I think he can, Oda putting him doing an attack with Jinbe should be very telling

[steel stirrup]

You see LA Brook?

[deep chasm]

I mean I wouldnt assume thta means hes actually equal to jinbe + who knows if theres any drawbacks to this, but I could see it

[tawny kraken]

yeah I saw all 3 pixels of that photo of him

[steel stirrup]

Lmaooo still crazy Easter egg imo

[tawny kraken]

I'm cautiously optimistic, the only thing they could fk up is the yohoho

but that's also a dub thing I guess

[steel stirrup]

Yea the laugh is the only thing I'm anxious to hear

Other than that I have no notes

[tawny kraken]

bink's sake maybe

I hope they nail it

[brittle basin]

I don't think LA Luffy laughs with shishishi

or did he?

i forget

so it's possible they don't do Brook's laugh

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/i/status/2029906594960450034

Cora 𒌐 -comms open- (@Corarima1)

rkgk

X · Mar 6, 2026, 1:07 PM

[steel stirrup]

Lmaooo everyones aura farming and then Doc Q is just dying

[tawny kraken]

I'm 90% sure there was at least one anime laugh the la adapted, but I can't remember

but yeah maybe he won't even yohoho at all

that would be even sadder

[brittle basin]

I wonder if they would adapt his panty gag if it got that far?

Or do they think a less hardcore LA audience would be turned off by that?

[grand flower]

If they keep it then the LA deserves an Oscar

[spice cairn]

He's going to ask for your shoes instead

[brittle basin]

so far Sanji has been toned down, but we haven't had him too long, things might change

[tawny kraken]

"hmm panty obsessed brook might be too much for the mainstream audience. oh wait, I know, let's give him a foot fetish instead"

[brittle basin]

"m'lady, my I take a gander at your piggly wigglies?"

[lofty fern]

Sanji vs Gunko would be interesting

[brittle basin]

Do you mean live action, 'cause that's what I'm talking about.

[lofty fern]

No, I was just thinking

[brittle basin]

oh lol

but gunko should be zoro's fight.....Oda plz

[lofty fern]

LA Sanji is awesome

[tawny kraken]

[brittle basin]

Oh btw, I saw a comment yesterday asking about Rocks' family. What happened to them on God Valley?

[tawny kraken]

btw where brook anyway, 3 chapters and no sign of him

[tawny kraken]

oh damn your btw was first

[lofty fern]

He's more of a womanizing charmer than the deviant of the manga

[tawny kraken]

wait hey yeah, if they were domi reversi'd and died?

[lofty fern]

Imu crushed him

[brittle basin]

he died for good this time, sadly

[tawny kraken]

ah just throw a bottle of milk at him

[iron oriole]

how can Brook have died when he's already dead

[tawny kraken]

make it lilith super milk at that

[runic dock]

Why he do my boy doc Q like that

[tawny kraken]

he'll be fine

[lofty fern]

Usopp has nothing to do

[brittle basin]

Rocks makes sense 'cause i'm sure Roger and Garp used their combined haki to undo the domi before Garling killed him. but the family i don't know.

[lofty fern]

I think they did that by killing him

[runic dock]

There’s gonna be a future development where we find out kuma saved more Davy clan that we realized

[lofty fern]

I'm pretty sure bb will be the last one

[brittle basin]

you mean like the haki killed him right? and thus undid the spell?

then garling kills him truly?

[lofty fern]

It makes him unique

[runic dock]

Well with this whole DR stuff , it’s not a definite thing anymore

The possibility now exists

[iron oriole]

well the island sank afterwards right? depending on how quick they recovered from the DR, maybe they could have got off/got to Kuma in time

[brittle basin]

i think the whole domi reversi thing is a little boring for me, but we'll see what oda does with it. not like haki by itself would've been much better (but we already have haki being used at least once to un-domi reversi rocks).

[lofty fern]

You sound like shuron and his xebec is alive theory

[brittle basin]

ah, god and there's a break too

[runic dock]

That’s why I think with this recent development that chance now exists , they could’ve been one of the many kuma offscreen saved

And we just don’t know yet

[brittle basin]

but at least Franky finally got his upgrade. though I can't tell if him being compared to a pacifista this late in the game is a compliment or not

[iron oriole]

but they'd have to recover before Rocks made it to Eris for the Kuma part at least

though ig Kuma could have just come across them on the floor

[runic dock]

Nah I think xebec is dead dead fr fr

At least

[brittle basin]

who killed them to undo the domi reversi?

[iron oriole]

Rocks

[runic dock]

^

[brittle basin]

did we see it?

[steel stirrup]

Nooo not Shuron

[brittle basin]

or we just have to assume?

[steel stirrup]

Say it aint so

[iron oriole]

kinda

[brittle basin]

ah ok

[iron oriole]

it was during the Garling stuff

we saw very little

[brittle basin]

i know he said something about coming after his family but i don't remember what else EDIT: like he was telling garling that he made a mistake doing that

[vernal ravine]

the haki thing was used cause domi reversi xebec protected himself with coc haki so they need to use it to be able kill him, it was never stated that haki was need to kill a dr

[runic dock]

Yeah now it’s clear

It just depends who gets DR’d

Any main character who’s not fodder would need haki

[brittle basin]

haki is clearly not needed, a simple beheading works. but for someone as strong as rocks it was needed i guess

[steel stirrup]

I'm assuming that Garling killed them before he DR'ed them

[runic dock]

That’s possible too

[brittle basin]

so sad

[runic dock]

Still a higher chance they died one way or another

There’s just this small chance kuma could’ve saved 1 or 2 more than thought

Who knows now

[brittle basin]

oh, i'm so glad Franky reminded us that Lilith is still carrying around that coffin. so not only did it still contain the new body of the Stella, but also random plot-relevant sci-fi shit. muh goda.

[steel stirrup]

If they were alive they died when the island sank anyway

[brittle basin]

and i think it's hilarious that Kuma is still just kind of clinging to life somewhere on elbaf

while bonney is just hanging with her cool uncle and aunt

or is lilith technically an uncle?

[hot cairn]

https://x.com/Blackbeard_Goat/status/2029671669954978073?s=20 Oda is getting cooked on Twitter (for the 11th time)

Teach Top 1 (@Blackbeard_Goat)

#ONEPIECE1176
This may genuinally be the worst moment in the last 2 years of chapters we got

X · Mar 5, 2026, 9:33 PM

[steel stirrup]

I think its cute how Bonney is hanging with him because he's the closest thing to her father

[runic dock]

They didn’t think they’d be caught in the middle of a terrorist attack

[brittle basin]

and she hung around Robin like a mother figure. What did Oda mean by this?????

[pine scaffold]

This chapter is more controversial than bonney nika imo

I havent seen this much hate since that chapter

[brittle basin]

this is their 9/11

[vernal ravine]

average lame fakeout death from oda

[dense pike]

We all know Frobin is real deep down

[iron oriole]

idk why this chapter is getting hate

[frozen ravine]

I didn't think the chapter was that bad

[runic dock]

For not good reasons as usual

[iron oriole]

good chapter was in fact a good chapter

[runic dock]

True! I would have said too soon 10 years ago!

[brittle basin]

that chapter was decent but nothing to call home about besides Franky really.

[hot cairn]

really? I feel like I saw more hate for that chapter than this one

[steel stirrup]

DR

[runic dock]

It’s just a plot development chapter

Plot needs to move forward

[brittle basin]

And then i had to read a comment to realize the whole books burning situation is eerily similar to ohara. !patterns

[hot cairn]

I didnt even expect them to die, I thought their heads were going to regenerate

[pine scaffold]

People said this chapter is miles worse than that one

[brittle basin]

i agree

[pine scaffold]

earlier

[iron oriole]

ehh i dont like it but its also better than having Conq be the answer

nothing to hate about though imo

[runic dock]

People still using Twitter on this day and age are cooked anyway

Find other people

[pine scaffold]

no they were here

People in this channel were complaining

[runic dock]

They’re cooked here too