also-manga

[hot cairn]

COOK

[runic dock]

We don’t need kuma in the crew anymore

[fringe escarp]

Franky cracking Lilith fr EOS

[ashen rose]

"welcome back to another reaction video"

[real badger]

this nigga man 🥀🥀

[leaden rivet]

If you’re referring to the jokes they (me) say after the chapter, I think that’s moreso because long before Elbaf even back in Wano, people swore up and down that this would be Usopp’s arc, and they’d argue about it, but none of that ends up happening.

[prisma idol]

Speaking of where is kuma?

[ornate tartan]

Advanced Color of Cola 😌

[leaden rivet]

It’s a running joke at this point almost

[ashen rose]

Low-key agree tho

[urban lodge]

I was just thinking the other day about how long it's been since we last saw Lilith and Bonney

[grand flower]

elbaph must have ended

[runic dock]

I assume wherever they left Bonney? Was it that old ancient robot building?

[fringe escarp]

Right before leaks I legit talked with a friend theorizing Lilith franky and kid possibly working on some crazy new shit in the background

[buoyant comet]

On the lab waiting to be fixed by lilith

[real badger]

brook is my favourite character from the straw hats because yohohohohohoho will you perhaps show me your panties

yohohohohohoho

[prisma idol]

Elbaf was Elbad. Dorry and Brogy? More like Sorry and Boggy.

[hybrid hazel]

Anyone would be shocked at the sight of a massive dragon that can slime everyone on the island within a couple of seconds

[deft drift]

https://klipy.com/gifs/comaricemalibean-baby

[hot cairn]

wdym

[proud pivot]

Kuma got ghosted 😹

[urban lodge]

Vegapunk's body is still rotting on the Sunny lmao

[trim lily]

more like sogga and bogga

so is kuma's

[real badger]

even kaido is a baby in front of loki

[ashen rose]

You're a poopyhead

[trim lily]

oh wait kuma isnt dead

nevermind my bad

[fringe escarp]

Only Usopp fans see irrelevancy for the grand majority of the arc and still have the gall to say this is a Usopp centric arc

[proud pivot]

Kuma must die for Vivi fans

[prisma idol]

He is. They are just coping He is alive

[fringe escarp]

“Be patient bro”

[ashen rose]

Oh, yeah, he's still FACE TO FACE WITH IMU

[runic dock]

I hope kuma gets to talk to his daughter again

[hybrid hazel]

Yes exactly so thats an honest reaction from Ussop he isn't trying to larp

[ashen rose]

BROOK IS DACE TO FACE WITH THE FINAL BOSS

[formal wagon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1166785409938903211/1201748433292247041/caption-13.gif

[hybrid hazel]

Goat ussop would never larp

[formal wagon]

YES HE WOULD

HIS WHOLE LIFE IS A LARP

[buoyant comet]

Dragons gonna arrive to Elbaf and eventually Kuma/Booney and Vegapunk will join his forces. And he'll form an alliance with the Giants and the Straw Hats.

It'll be like the alliance formed at Zou 👀

[trim lily]

his whole life is a carp

[stone tulip]

No offense but I don’t care if the argument is “hyperbole” cause you guys always the same thing about Usopp after Dressrosa cause you guys claim Usopp is useless in Wano and Egghead but someone brings up what he had done you guys immediately downplay it cause it’s not something like Dressrosa where he gets character focus which at this point that’s literally a different argument all together, so please drop the hyperbole argument cause you are arguing something else that your initial point at this point.

[prisma idol]

Brook died

[real badger]

man even roger wasn't even born when brook was asking for panties

yohohohohohoho

[hybrid hazel]

No those were defensive techniques

[prisma idol]

We didnt see him anywhere near imu last chapter

[hot cairn]

I’ve never seen Usopp get so mentioned in a while man LOL

[ashen rose]

Wait a minute, he's already dead

[trim lily]

brook might just be dead

turned to dust

remains scattered in the winds

[hybrid hazel]

what ever he says eventually comes true so is that really larping

[deft drift]

what if brook is ryuma alter ego

[leaden rivet]

Usopp usually gets clowned every week surprised you haven’t seen it

[trim lily]

thats certainly a what if

[real badger]

I'm dead because I have no body I'm just a skeleton only made of bones

yohohohohohoho

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/vc-fish-vc-voice-call-voice-call-gif-23800915

his whole life is a northern pike

[ashen rose]

Piles of brooks dust

[formal wagon]

pictured here

[trim lily]

fucked up what happened to them

[stone tulip]

Yeah every L Usopp has he is going to have a W later on, he already got an L this arc so at some point he will get W in future chapters before the arc ends.

[formal wagon]

i sent the gif before the message

[ashen rose]

He also has history with gunko, so this battle is about to be PERSONAL

[hot cairn]

I think I just leave when it starts lol, like I’m about to do now

[ocean totem]

Someone explain this to me

[prisma idol]

Loki didnt aim right and blew up brook

[runic dock]

It might even look the worse it’s ever been for Usopp , before his moment finally comes again lol

[ashen rose]

BROOK AGENDA KEEPS WINNING

[runic dock]

He will hita new bottom

[ocean totem]

A fatal wound will make them revert back to normal without the domi reversi?

[trim lily]

yerp

[real badger]

guys do you know something about Vinland saga season 3m

[hot cairn]

yes

[ocean totem]

But why is that a thing

[stone terrace]

Pell was domi reversid this whole fuckin time

[deft drift]

cuz it is

[prisma idol]

Trueeeee

[hot cairn]

wdym

[real badger]

how much of us one piece fans hate figerland garling?

[runic dock]

Yeah , basically like how we saw with rocks , Roger and garp split him to pieces , then he became whole again with light wounds previous to turning Domi reversi , if you notice in the pictures , one of the giants still has their arm missing

[fringe escarp]

Brother if I say a strawhat has barely been irrelevant in a arc, say Brook in egghead for example, pointing out one or two small moments in nearly 100 chapter arcs is not going to sufficiently support this

Usopp has had less relevance post dressrosa than every other strawhat, this isn’t hyperbole it’s just true. You can hyperfixate on the wording from diff arguments but the sentiment is pretty obvious

[trim lily]

i love him personally

[hybrid hazel]

Dorry and broggy are such big frauds that oda had to retcon in order to save them

[prisma idol]

Garling is great

[trim lily]

well old garlic

young garlic is a different story

[real badger]

fan wtf

[ashen rose]

I love garlic

[prisma idol]

Good Father Garling

[hot cairn]

he’s a good villain

[ashen rose]

Garlic bread

[prisma idol]

GFG

[hybrid hazel]

Garling is a fraud

[trim lily]

im always right

[runic dock]

No retcon

[real badger]

I'm asking as a person

[ashen rose]

He kills pregnant woman

[trim lily]

he might be a bad husband but he was a good father

[real badger]

that's my man

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-figarland-garling-sitting-gif-15799620578416971378

[prisma idol]

Skill issue

[hot cairn]

your favorite character

[urban lodge]

Can he really be that bad if he accepted Shanks back

[hybrid hazel]

Lies

[prisma idol]

Also thats not true, we never saw him kill a pregnant woman

[stone tulip]

Possible too, although now it seems everything is too easy cause Sommars and Killingham was beaten up by monster trio, the Giants are going to turn back to normal, the children are getting freed, and MMA are being stopped by straw hats and Loki.

I feel like considering Imu is going to step in and make things worse in next few chapters somehow.

[ashen rose]

God valley

[prisma idol]

Where

[runic dock]

Hey at least I agree Garling is a fraud

[celest mauve]

imu did this to brook off-screen, rest in peace

[ashen rose]

Under there

[fringe escarp]

If I say sanji is dogshit in thriller bark, bringing up one good moment doesn’t change that

[trim lily]

down there

[real badger]

that asshole killed xebec when he was almost about to die before when they had their clash Garling was knocked out by one punch of xebec

[buoyant comet]

• Rocks got Domi Reversi-ed

• Roger and Garp killed them with his critical haki mass

• Rocks came back from the dead and fully recovered his physical injuries

• He couldn't get up because he exhausted his haki which I don't think Domi Reversi could recover

• Dorry and Broggy got Domi Reversi-ed

• 1 attack made them gain their senses temporarily???

• They then killed each other

• They fully recover their physical injuries sustained on their Domi Reversi form and got up

• They didn't use Haki before so they still had their reserves to get up and fight

[runic dock]

Sommers is going to reform , and killingham is definitely going to reform cause Sanji doesn’t even have acoc , they are not close to being over with

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/nose-drake-not-drake-lil-yachty-those-who-knows-those-who-nose-gif-10969766888374258172

[hybrid hazel]

In one of the flash backs

[fringe escarp]

Usopp over 50 chapters into elbaf has had less relevance than every other strawhat

[prisma idol]

He never killed a Pregnant woman in a flashback

[hybrid hazel]

Perfect set up for a power up

[celest mauve]

I'm glad I'm not an usopp fan 😭

[runic dock]

? Is this a bit

[buoyant comet]

Biggest plot hole on this whole Domi Reversi debacle is the Davy clan

[prisma idol]

No, where did he?

[runic dock]

[fringe escarp]

I don’t give a fuck about patience no other crewmate gets this much leeway in a arc people have been waiting ages for specifically because it’s important to usopps character

[leaden rivet]

It’s not wise to call something a plot hole before it’s fully explained

[buoyant comet]

They shouldn't have been Domi Reversi-ed in the first place

[ocean totem]

Exhausting haki doesn't prevent movement, and Rocks was injured when he turned back

[runic dock]

Shanks….mother?…

[prisma idol]

Like straight up im not remembering if he did

[real badger]

I heard a theory that his kabuto will eat a devil fruit

[stone tulip]

You are proving my point cause once again you are saying Usopp is useless cause he wasn’t relevant despite the fact that both of these things are different arguments, like yeah he wasn’t relevant in Dressrosa but he was never useless that’s core difference.

But I feel like the more we argue with this the more we continue repeating the some point so we I guess we should move on.

[fringe escarp]

Imagine if we got to laughtale and luffy is a fucking background character

[trim lily]

hes so nice

[dense rapids]

Strongest duo in the world

[hybrid hazel]

Gosvalleey flash back he was sliming out people for no reason thinking he tuff clearly a fraud

[leaden rivet]

Shanks mother wasn’t pregnant

[trim lily]

well it wasnt for no reason

[leaden rivet]

She had already given birth

[prisma idol]

Any proof they were pregnant?

[trim lily]

he was in a hunting game

[runic dock]

Agreed

[prisma idol]

Im not saying he didnt kill people

[runic dock]

I’m fucking stupid

[leaden rivet]

Garling would NEVER kill a pregnant woman

[runic dock]

Who gaslit me

????

[prisma idol]

Im saying he didnt kill a pregnant lady

[ashen rose]

Final boss vs wooden shield

[fringe escarp]

Nigga I didn’t even say useless in that sentence

[hybrid hazel]

He doesnt need a df because every df user besides Loki is a fraud

[real badger]

yes I was there that night I was filming the whole thing

[fringe escarp]

Now you’re just hallucinating statements

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/rizzler-the-rizzler-christian-turn-rizzler-turn-gif-3468410536510015644

[fallen meteor]

this happened and then gunko kinda moved on?

[viscid gate]

agenda piece doesn't need to account for future chapters or past chapters just what i think sounds hype this week

[fallen meteor]

i just realized this

[fringe escarp]

I intentionally worded it in a way that isn’t hyperbole

[leaden rivet]

Doesn’t shanks mother have a name now, what is it

[buoyant comet]

I'm pretty sure it does, remember back in Dressrosa when Luffy exhausted his haki and wasn't able to move and had to be protected from doflamingo

Also rocks sustained injuries before he got domi reversi-ed by Imu when he got stabbed him him. But other than that I didn't see any physical injuries

[trim lily]

magnolia or something

[prisma idol]

Magnolia

[runic dock]

Agenda piece can go eat shit and die 😔

[celest mauve]

magnolia

[fringe escarp]

Specifically so you can engage with the core point itself

[urban lodge]

She was pregnant with a new pair of twins

[trim lily]

oh wow i got it right

[ashen rose]

The fight? Nah it just switched perspective

[fallen meteor]

after this scene we get Gunkimu going 'Nidhogg!!!!' and that was it?

[fringe escarp]

And not managing to see that proves my point

[runic dock]

Garling is a monster

[ocean totem]

Luffy was never unable to move from exhausting his haki, and Rocks's head had dripped blood onto his face when he changed back

[fallen meteor]

Stabbs and Stinkrock

[real badger]

he is an asshole

[hot cairn]

Magnolia

[ocean totem]

And his nose is bleeding

[hybrid hazel]

Finding out shanks is no longer a rat was heart breaking 😔

[hot cairn]

Banger movie too

[prisma idol]

Dude stop

[runic dock]

That’s putting it mildly yeah

[torn ferry]

im not quite sure if i enjoy this new domi reversi development

[leaden rivet]

I’ve been told 3 times already

[ashen rose]

Forgot about that tbh, maybe it got off screened and brook is now piles of dust

[viscid gate]

Shanks is a triple agent rat don't sleep on it this guy is sketchy

[hybrid hazel]

Magnolia

[fringe escarp]

Rocks prior to becoming a demon was already injured from battle

[hot cairn]

why not a fourth?

[trim lily]

i love out of context sommers panels

breaking down in tears at the childlike wonder

[runic dock]

It’s just a clarification over what we saw already happen with rocks , only difference is haki was used on a stronger Dr opponent

[leaden rivet]

Acting out on discord won’t bring your father back.

[fringe escarp]

Compared to the damage he took in demon form he’s extremely clean

[fallen meteor]

what a good guy

[hot cairn]

think it’s too easy?

[ocean totem]

So were Dorry and Broggy

They are now spotless

[hybrid hazel]

Yeah he prolly talked to shamrock to tell Gorosei about the pirate

[fringe escarp]

And broggys arm is still gone

[fallen meteor]

not his mighty one

[vital heart]

@ocean totem idk if you have me blocked but i fully translated this entire chapter. howd you like it?

[fringe escarp]

Idc they’re the same fucking character

[fallen meteor]

[real badger]

my fav pirate captain is doffy

[hybrid hazel]

Thank you

[stone tulip]

I know they are going to regenerate for sure, definitely sets up Zoro and Sanji fights I still suspect it’s going to be Zoro vs Killingham and Sanji vs Sommars still.

I am just saying it feels like everything is going to be fine but Imu is right there.

[vital heart]

Of course my friend

[runic dock]

Yeah it’s gonna “flip” again

[ocean totem]

True, but Rocks was also for some reason just down for the count. The giants got up just fine, he didn't seem like he could even move

[trim lily]

the difference might be that rocks got pierced by imu while the giants got flipped by like a portal

[runic dock]

The difference there could be because he had used tons of haki , even before going DR

Exhaustion

[trim lily]

idk why theres a difference in the effects but it might be something

[frail kindle]

I wonder if it has something to do with conq haki, cause giants just chopped their heads off

[hybrid hazel]

Yes he was on the verge of death

[stone tulip]

I admit that I did exaggerate with the “useless” part but point still stands, but honestly I am tired of arguing this so going to move on

[frail kindle]

yeah what earl said

reading my mind

[fallen meteor]

maybe dorry and brogy are just stronger than rocks

[runic dock]

He had just regained wounds from before DR, he wasn’t split into pieces like the attack made him look

He wasn’t on the verge of death

He was tired

[stone tulip]

Possibly, I do wonder where Brook is tho

[fringe escarp]

It’s because domi uses lifespan

[trim lily]

so true

[hybrid hazel]

Oh

[lime terrace]

I hate how the dommi reversi is resolved, my goat might be washed

[fringe escarp]

Giants aren’t as affected because they have a lot more to give

[formal wagon]

thanks

[fringe escarp]

But someone like rocks, a human has far less to offer

[runic dock]

Garling stabbed an immobilized rocks , like he could’ve done with Roger and garp if they were there

[ocean totem]

This isn't stamina, and someone like Rocks would have way more of that than most giants

[ocean totem]

Yeh, he wasn't on the verge of death before the Domi Reversi is what I'm saying

[runic dock]

Roger and garp also ran out of stamina , they were even knocked out from their own usage , rocks wasn’t knocked out

[lime terrace]

you like or dislike the domi reversi resolve bean?

[ocean totem]

It's hilarious that this saved them

[runic dock]

This was a stamina thing

[ocean totem]

Oda pulled something like this in Wano too

[fringe escarp]

Someone like rocks who has been fighting on god valley for a fat minute in the front lines vs Dorry and broggy doing jack by comparison

[unkempt fjord]

If the giants returned after they died , would that mean rocks might be alive ?

[runic dock]

Exactly

[fringe escarp]

It’s not coc

[ocean totem]

This is because they both threw so much that they knew there was no more moving after, both haki and muscle

I don't think Rocks put as much in, did he?

[obtuse perch]

they maybe had a hangover at worst

[frail kindle]

I'm saying that rocks was using a lot of haki when he was fighting, and the giants just chopped their heads off so they weren't exhausted

[lime terrace]

i forgot do rocks got possesed or domi reversi'd

[ocean totem]

By the time he gets Domi Reversi'd, he wasn't that bad off at all

[fringe escarp]

Ohhh nvm I get you

[runic dock]

Rocks had been throwing haymakers all day that day too, him not going to their extent shows for it by him not being fully knocked out like they were at this point

[ocean totem]

Being worn out and out of haki doesn't stop moving either though

[fringe escarp]

He wasn’t as badly exhausted I agree

[buoyant comet]

I went ahead and researched and got disproven so I guess you were right

[hot cairn]

who’s your goat?

[fringe escarp]

Actually it did for Roger and Garp

[ocean totem]

Yeh, people still think this even though the manga shows otherwise

[lime terrace]

oda

[ocean totem]

They help Luffy because it's convenient and they're there, Luffy could've still used Soru in that state

[hot cairn]

nope, Rocks was out of domi reversi when he was killed by Garling

[stone tulip]

To be fair Rocks was still alive after being turned back to normal suggesting that Roger and Garp killed them once already.

[ocean totem]

Yeh but like if he's supposed to go back to just before he got Domi'd, he shouldn't have had the blood on him like he did or be so far exhausted he couldn't move

[hot cairn]

Domi reversi

[runic dock]

Also, I don’t think rocks really confirmed to himself that he couldn’t move , perhaps it was just hard to move and he was in a relaxed state cause no one was around , his words were him lamenting his own survival , then Garling came in from the corner with a quick stab thru the heart

[ocean totem]

Honestly he should've been able to wipe out the Knights that came around still

He was in about that condition when he's saved

[fringe escarp]

I think it legit does come down to lifespan

[buoyant comet]

Yeah I didn't read Dressrosa so either the animes adaptation differed or I just didn't pick up on this

[runic dock]

Those are lighter wounds I assume from before he got DR’d , cause wounds from before DR remain

[wraith mantle]

Rate chapter out of 10

[buoyant comet]

6.5/10

[ocean totem]

He didn't say he couldn't move, but he just sits there thinking to himself while he's about to get attacked

[buoyant comet]

Lilith carried hard

[ocean totem]

Like you'd think he'd wipe out Garling again instead of just laying there and letting himself get killed if he could've fought back

Not like he was tired of life or anything like that

[fringe escarp]

Lowkey I think he accepted he was done

His crew abandoned him

[ocean totem]

Nah the manga is the same, it's just Oda made it look a bit bad in Dressrosa 'cause people were carrying Luffy

But we learn for a fact that he doesn't have any movement drawback from Gear 4th in Whole Cake Island

After fighting Katakuri he was still able to run at a really ridiculous speed, and even uses Soru and Gear 3rd at one point

With 0 haki left

[fringe escarp]

Gear 2 is associated with it, in pre ts at least

[ocean totem]

But like Xebec? I can't see that for him

[runic dock]

I agree he may not have been fully immobilized but getting up would cause him to stumble and maybe he noticed Garling too late anyway , in the end I think all that’s gotta be explained is the other Davy clan members

[stone tulip]

Also just realized something:

Most of giants are pirates

Zoro epithet is pirate hunter

Zoro was said that he killed many people during his days as bounty hunter whether they are pirates or even fellow bounty hunters like the old Mr 7

We may actually see the “Pirate Hunter” Zoro for real this time

[ocean totem]

He even wonders to himself if he'd leave the island alive

[runic dock]

That could be a future plot development like maybe kuma saved more Davy clans than we realized

[buoyant comet]

He thought his wife and son died tho

[latent hamlet]

dood had so many enemies and no allies that if any1 actually bothered to save him, that'd be a miracle in itself

[ocean totem]

Ehhh I dunno, he spots them walking up and has a whole little internal monologue about it lol

[buoyant comet]

He couldn't see past the explosion

[latent hamlet]

the best he could ask for was a death with his mind intact

[ocean totem]

Still wondered if he'd make it off though, so he hadn't just given up there

[fringe escarp]

He was still at a point of not much left in him to want to keep going

[unkempt sable]

8.9

[ocean totem]

Nah, Roger's crew probably would've saved him

[runic dock]

He could’ve been a bit depressed yeah lol

[lime terrace]

6

[runic dock]

I think he truly hoped they’d kill him

[ocean totem]

As much as they were all enemies, they weren't all totally heartless about it

[fringe escarp]

This is smth we can shit on actually

[ocean totem]

Xebec even hopes Roger and Garp get out alive

[fringe escarp]

They def could’ve saved xebec

[buoyant comet]

I agree with you that he should have been physically able to get up and he shouldn't have been as worn out as he was but I kinda get why oda just let him die instead of having him live for another day

[ocean totem]

Nah, not without being part of the fight in the first place I think

[stone tulip]

I mean he thought he killed his wife and son and didn’t see Kuma paw them away, so “bit depressed” is understatement.

Dude wanted to die regardless.

[latent hamlet]

remind me
rocks was separated from roger and garp right?

[ocean totem]

It helps the story sure, it's just the way it happens feels awkward y'know?

[latent hamlet]

and the HKs got to rocks first?

[ocean totem]

Like this extra after effect had to be for Xebec but no one else

[runic dock]

Yeah , mid fight he hoped they would kill him forreal , it’s not like he knew he’d remain alive after DR wore off

[fringe escarp]

HKs are weak as fuck in god valley

[runic dock]

He thought this was it

[ocean totem]

'cause it was the only way to let Garling kill him

[runic dock]

He was ready to die

[fringe escarp]

Ray and gaban could easily take them

[hot cairn]

7

[latent hamlet]

wasnt GV crumbling?

[fringe escarp]

No that’s later

[stone tulip]

Yeah plus even DR wore off he had no will to live anymore cause Imu legit broke the guy.

[runic dock]

There could be a future plot development where kuma saved more Davy clan members than we realize , calling it now lol

[fringe escarp]

^^^^^

I expect this to some degree

[stone tulip]

This is possible

A very likely one too

[latent hamlet]

inb4 rocks never died, he was taken to be a permanent demon slave

[fringe escarp]

If not then the lifespan cost cooked him

[ocean totem]

I don't think Imu did that much damage to Rocks's spirit

For Xebec of all people in this series

[fringe escarp]

Beautiful ending

[ocean totem]

like I don't think even Roger matches his will sometimes

[runic dock]

He thought he killed his own family , I think that’s enough to break anyone

[fringe escarp]

Xebec the entire time was begging to be killed and was in tears

[ocean totem]

He was begging to be killed because he thought there was no hope and he had to just die at that point

[fringe escarp]

He didn’t even entertain undoing the curse

[ocean totem]

But if he's saved and free and Imu's gone, he wouldn't have just wanted to die there

[latent hamlet]

tbf, there was like....literally no known possible way to escape demon form

[stone tulip]

I meant in emotional sense by making him think he killed his wife and son

[ocean totem]

And we know he didn't want to die because he wonders if he'd get off of the island

[ornate tartan]

if u google useless bum ass and click images, usopp is 3 of the first 4 images that shows up what the hell😂

[fringe escarp]

That doesn’t mean they can’t try

[ocean totem]

He wasn't thinking of giving up, he just wasn't sure if he could actually make it out alive

[fringe escarp]

He doesn’t even ask them to help free him

[ocean totem]

How could they?

[latent hamlet]

its a bit tough to try and free some1 when u have no idea how to other than "hit him really really hard"

[stone tulip]

Funny how everyone looks serious or depressed but only Big mom is happy 😭

[fringe escarp]

That’s something Garp and Roger ask throughout the fight itself

[ocean totem]

No point in trying to beg to be freed if none of them are smart enough to even figure out if he can be lol

[latent hamlet]

plus roger and garp were too busy trying to survive too lol

[mellow cradle]

Zoro sneaked in as a warrior of west village 😭

[fringe escarp]

But Garp and Roger believed he could

[stone tulip]

He got lost again

[ocean totem]

And Shanks sleeping like nothing happened lol

[ocean totem]

Sure, and Xebec didn't share that same faith

He was trapped, so it makes sense

But he did in fact get free, he didn't want to just die

[fringe escarp]

I think that he just gave up and wanted death at that point

Brother accepted death

And broke down into tears

[latent hamlet]

rocks also put down demonized family members too

so he probably was like "aint no way to break out"

[fringe escarp]

and they returned to normal so he knows it can be undone

[latent hamlet]

also, had roger and garp not put him down
he would have most likely become an eternal slave, which would certainly be considered a fate worse than death

[fringe escarp]

This p much

Rocks was broken by this point

Crew all abandoned him and left him to die

Actively attempted to kill his wife and kid

[ocean totem]

He didn't, though

[fringe escarp]

All with zero will

[ocean totem]

While being trapped he was ready to give it all up, but once he was freed he didn't want to just die

But he was glad they managed to beat him

[stone tulip]

He is a baby, he wouldn’t understand what actually happened so give him a break 😭

[fringe escarp]

Once he was freed he accepted death, nothing really indicates he was hoping to be saved

Or that he expected it

[ocean totem]

He accepted death because he couldn't fight back

He lays there wondering if he'll actually be able to get off of the island alive

He didn't just give up

[stone tulip]

What actually happened to them though? Like wouldn’t they get reverted back to normal ?

[fringe escarp]

I guess this is fair

[latent hamlet]

i think the manga cut away

rocks genuinely may have not stuck around to find out

[stone tulip]

Arc isn’t over so there is still a time anyways

[fringe escarp]

They did return to normal

[ocean totem]

The wounds he has after the fight also look like the ones he got when Roger and Garp were beating on him

[fringe escarp]

Now this I can say isn’t true

[stone tulip]

Yeah I know but did they even survive ?

[fringe escarp]

If the injuries retained from his demon form he would be dead

It wasn’t a shockwave he was literally ripped apart

[latent hamlet]

unconfirmed

assumed dead

[fringe escarp]

Limbs blown off

[orchid niche]

Garp D oppresor

[fringe escarp]

Torso vaporized

[latent hamlet]

o ye rocks was hitting em hard

[tough igloo]

facts , we see rocks face before he starts fighting and it’s clean compared to how it is after he fights garp & roger

[ocean totem]

No, getting punched in the face

[ocean totem]

Yeh, even if we chalk some of this up to Oda being bad at blood consistency like we know he is, he really is way more messed up in the after lol

[fringe escarp]

Ehhh I don’t think that injury specifically stayed when he took far more later and none of them were retained

Like it’s clearly intentional that rocks retained his body without the injuries from the demon form

[runic dock]

And yet he’s not in pieces like the last hit made him out to look

So recovery did take place

[clever idol]

Didnt say they didnt get stronger. Ppl want to continue to see that happen, which is fine

[ocean totem]

But you can see ^ He's got blood from his mouth, nose and more from his skull than he went into the fight with

[ocean totem]

Yeh the death at the very least gets reversed completely

Maybe injuries that hadn't healed yet before the death blow don't?

[runic dock]

maybe yeah

[ocean totem]

I don't mean pre-Domi like Broggy's arm, but during the possession but before the regeneration kicks in

[runic dock]

Yeah I get u

That’s possible

[keen quiver]

I'm ngl this ability is just very inconsistent currently

[runic dock]

I mean maybe it is , idk if it truly is

[runic dock]

It’s pretty varied if anything, imu has like 3+ ways possessing someone

He’s obsessed with this type of ability it seems

[keen quiver]

Inconsistent in quality and how it works

Is where I'm at

Its a good confusion tactic

[runic dock]

Yeah that’s not something that can’t be fixed with time , so irrelevant to me

[keen quiver]

But it really just feels way to flawed to be effective

It only works of you're stupid and its the first time

[fringe escarp]

This is true, I think we just need more info

Because it’s clear he didn’t take anywhere near the damage he took in demon form

[keen quiver]

The moment you notice the standing between people and damage to revert part its wraps for the Dr part.

[fringe escarp]

But he does return bleeding

[tough igloo]

didn’t think it’d be so easy to reverse … haki wasn’t even needed to stop domi reversi (which is a surprise with Oda’s track record )

[runic dock]

Knowing you have to kill Loki DR won’t make it any easier

[fringe escarp]

^^^

Acting like this is somehow easy is crazy

[grand flower]

neither will getting closer and closer to fatigue if Imu continues to flip them back

[ocean totem]

But he kinda did though

[runic dock]

Yeah for fodder people for sure haki isn’t needed it seems

[keen quiver]

No haki, no gear 5 and no special item

[runic dock]

For Loki would be lol

[ocean totem]

The last, body shattering blow is the only thing that seemed to get fixed

[outer flax]

It's not easy to kill

[runic dock]

That’s probably better for the long run

[ocean totem]

The rest of his face is pretty consistent with Garp punching it lol

[fringe escarp]

If he did his body would be Swiss cheese and that was the main amount of damage

[grand flower]

exactly

[outer flax]

You have deal a killing blow to kill in the first place

[grand flower]

they have to exert themselves

[tough igloo]

i don’t think dorry & brogy are fodder .. they just had to off each other

[lost flame]

[grand flower]

and what's gonna happen when imu just turns them back lol

they can't keep killing them forever

[runic dock]

Honestly , they’re not shit anymore

[ocean totem]

And if it healed then it wasn't there when he got blown apart completely

[runic dock]

Ima be frank

They’re not even openly using haki

[keen quiver]

People are really hoping imu just spams the ability

[runic dock]

I don’t care about them

[outer flax]

If your attack not a killing blow,it will heal

[keen quiver]

When imu is just gonna end up losing this arc

[tough igloo]

lol that’s more of a knock on imu than them that they don’t even need haki to stop imu ability

[grand flower]

why would oda base off a game where the pieces flip repeatedly

and then not include that aspect

[fringe escarp]

It was there, we literally saw his leg blown off

[grand flower]

especially when imu had no issue cursing them in the first place

what sensible reason is there to even assume imu won't flip them back

[lost flame]

[runic dock]

That’s honestly just knock on anyone who imu takes over , if he takes over someone strong that uses haki especially CoC , duuuuuhhh we’re gonna need haki to stop them

[keen quiver]

The only real card imu has left is Dr on loki

[grand flower]

besides giving yourself something to complain about lol

[outer flax]

Maybe imu can't since imu already did flip them once

[fringe escarp]

That’s how it’s been the moment loki arrived tbf

[grand flower]

why

[fringe escarp]

Loki is the biggest trump card rn

[tough igloo]

if rocks had killed himself like dorry & brogy , roger & garp could’ve chilled

[grand flower]

that's not how reversi works

[outer flax]

Limit of one time potentially

[tough igloo]

we saw Rocks was able to disobey imu temporarily like dorry & brogy did

[ocean totem]

You're misunderstanding, this

[fringe escarp]

Reword

[keen quiver]

If that doesnt happen he's losing and if it happens he's still losing.

[grand flower]

then why base it on a game where pieces can be flipped multiple times?

[ocean totem]

This is the state he goes back to when he reverts

Those are the injuries he has

[runic dock]

We don’t know if there’s a limit per person , maybe he could keep doing it

[fringe escarp]

Look at the panel right before he got hit

He isn’t bleeding at all

No tooth lost either

[ocean totem]

He is, that's just Oda's shading problem coming in

[outer flax]

Well whoever comes inbetween the domi reversi transformed by imu ,they can be flip back potentially

[tough igloo]

he’s still bleeding in that panel lol

[runic dock]

It’s not like dorry and broggy took their own hand an slice their own throats tho , they did it to each other still , rocks didn’t have anyone to bounce that energy off except Roger and garp themselves

[grand flower]

yeah i think it's going to mimic an actual game of reversi

[fringe escarp]

Bleeding and scuffs are not the same

Shading wouldn’t affect his blood being inked in

[grand flower]

if it does, they'll need another solution because they'll exhaust themselves trying to rely on brute force

[fringe escarp]

That’s not how that works

[ocean totem]

It does constantly

Oda is terrible at keeping blood consistent 100%

[formal wagon]

L oda

[grand flower]

Bean what's your take on this reversi thing

[fringe escarp]

That’s kind of my point? He lost a tooth in the top panel and he has it back on the bottom

He has scuffs on the bottom panel and blood on the top

[ocean totem]

Oda's worse with teeth lol

[tough igloo]

just ask blackbeard lol

[ocean totem]

It happens pretty constantly in the series

[formal wagon]

#counttheteeth #saturnisalive

[ocean totem]

Oda will, without fail, draw someone with blood somewhere and sometimes in the same page will have that blood gone

[fringe escarp]

That’s kind of my point tho

[grand flower]

akainu in marineford

[ocean totem]

^ See how Roger goes from bloody nose to not at the bottom

[grand flower]

he has blood from whitebeard's attack

[ocean totem]

And then he has it back the next page

[fringe escarp]

Can’t we apply the same thing here with rocks

[grand flower]

then no blood reacting to blackbeard

[ocean totem]

Yeh, Akainu was a really bad one lmao

[grand flower]

then has the blood again

[ocean totem]

It's like he was just wiping the blood of between panels sometimes I swear

[grand flower]

like his face goes from bloody to completely clean to bloody again

[ocean totem]

Like it was bad

[runic dock]

Bb has a new positioned missing tooth every time he smiles

[fringe escarp]

Tbf he’s him

[runic dock]

[ocean totem]

'cause Akainu was bleeding from every hole in his head

[grand flower]

yeah it's in the same chapter too lol

[leaden rivet]

Akainu’s mistakes have caused hour long powerscaling discussions

[grand flower]

like between a few pages

[fringe escarp]

[ocean totem]

And sometimes would have not a drop on him

[fringe escarp]

Akainu has regen

Trust

[ocean totem]

The Jinbe chase had it bad too lol

[formal wagon]

okay :D

[fringe escarp]

Jinbe regenerated

[runic dock]

What is going on with his teeth

[fringe escarp]

Hole blasted thru his chest

[ocean totem]

THE VERY NEXT PAGE

[runic dock]

Holy shit

[fringe escarp]

Oda confirmed Acoc cleans blood and regenerates

[tough igloo]

lol do oda even be trying

[ocean totem]

Literally two panels later and he's spotless

[runic dock]

It’s even more blatant than I remember

[leaden rivet]

He switches back and forth quite a bit later marineford

[fringe escarp]

Idk bleeding is kind of pointless in this then

[ocean totem]

Then when he does draw the blood it's still not consistent

[keen quiver]

Bleed scaling = sweat scaling

I'm ngl

[runic dock]

Sweat scaling might actually be more consistent but the bar is still extremely low

[fringe escarp]

Rocks bleeding after the fight might not even be meaningful

[leaden rivet]

Sweat scaling is underrated

[fringe escarp]

His main injuries completely healed themselves ultimately

Blood on his face could just be a oda moment

[keen quiver]

Bandage scaling is supreme

[fringe escarp]

Lucci with one tiny bandaid after fighting gear 5 😭

[runic dock]

Oda when someone points it out in the sbs “oh yeah huh? “

[leaden rivet]

All better than bounty scaling

[blazing depot]

Magma just does that

[fringe escarp]

There’s something worse than everything here

Black lightning scaling

[keen quiver]

Fujitora with some head bandages after fighting green bull

[runic dock]

Bounties combine your reputation as well and some pirates have more reputation than power

[formal wagon]

bounty scaling confirms the true strongest

[blazing depot]

The world would be better off without scaling…

[fringe escarp]

You mean Sabo and a few good men?

[leaden rivet]

No one will convince me that the trail isn’t 100% accurate in signifying acoc

[fringe escarp]

[leaden rivet]

I won’t be gaslighted

[thick mango]

Teeth scaling? I've found the answer. Bb gains teeth as he becomes more powerful

[runic dock]

You’re right , don’t let them win

[keen quiver]

Teach made this man a mummy

😭

[fringe escarp]

Yeah this mf Sengoku was paid to act injured

When the fuck did teach even HIT HIM

LMFAOOOOO

[keen quiver]

"Return the poneglyph or suffer the curse"

Type of bandage work

[tough igloo]

he had all his teeth in impel down when he recruited level 6 prisoners lol

[keen quiver]

It was off screen

😭

[fringe escarp]

“I can’t let these guys know I wasn’t on god valley”

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard was too much for Sengoku and Garp I guess

They could not withstand him

[fringe escarp]

No timeline this is true 😭

[tough igloo]

it is sadly lol

well not sadly

happily

[leaden rivet]

You guys are laughing but I’m not joking

[runic dock]

#MyFinalVillain

[fringe escarp]

Bro bumbeard got clapped by Sengoku

[keen quiver]

Also garp was there and he let sengoku get whipped

😭

[runic dock]

As he should

All things considered

[leaden rivet]

Sengoku wasn’t doing shit

[blazing depot]

He had some milk right before this. Then some toothsmashing right before Marineford

[fringe escarp]

Only a handful of the strongest chat

[fringe escarp]

Ok calm down

[leaden rivet]

Only thing Sengoku is good at is killing unarmed scientists

[tough igloo]

somebody skipped the last part of marineford lol

[thick mango]

that proves my point, that was a triumphant moment for him

[runic dock]

They don’t call him the Buddha for nothing!!

Wait yes they do

It’s for nothing

[fringe escarp]

You got a scene of Sengoku taking anything from BB?

Unless you’re gonna use the fucking BANDAGES

[runic dock]

Bandages don’t lie

Are we bandage scaling?

[keen quiver]

"Give me war crimes"
"Give me fire."
"Give me buster calls or I retire."

[fringe escarp]

ONLY A HANDFUL OF BANDAGES CAN PATCH THIS!!!

[tough igloo]

i got a panels of BB & Sengoku continuing to fight after sengoku off guard shockwave attack , of blackbeard telling bot sengoku & garp they can’t stop him .. thankfully shanks showed up

[runic dock]

Marineford has been studied here like it’s a college class with a thesis essay due

[fringe escarp]

“Continuing” to fight or actually being hit

Nigga Blackbeard said he was the strongest in the world I don’t give a fuck about him glazing himself to no end

[tough igloo]

Buddha sengoku off guard shockwave attack couldn’t even taken down ONE of BB commanders lmao

[runic dock]

Oh god oh shit are we really doing this

Marineford power scaling???

[fringe escarp]

Bandage scaling Owarida

[fringe escarp]

L take when Akainu melted a guy and that same mf is fine

[tough igloo]

Gorosei post marineford : “the ONLY ones who could possibly stop Blackbeard are the four emperors “ 🤔😂 why not Sengoku & Garp

[fringe escarp]

…because they’re talking about pirates

Do you seriously think Marco and a few good men are stronger LMFAOOO

[tough igloo]

they said themselves maybe marco with WB fleet .. then got shown what happened

they weren’t even confident in marco and WB fleet

[keen quiver]

Couldn't even take stronger down

[tough igloo]

that’s why they said maybe lmao

[keen quiver]

That shit is embarrassing

[fringe escarp]

not confident but they still didn’t mention the marines

Like at all

[keen quiver]

Stronger is eternally on 2hp

[fringe escarp]

We saying the marines aren’t worth mentioning but Marco is?

[tidal ice]

And still stronger

[fringe escarp]

Like come on be real

[tough igloo]

marines aren’t worth mentioning either … their best guy Garp just went to hachinosu with SWORD while only half the yonko crew was there and not even the yonko himself .. and got captured

[fringe escarp]

We saying the revos are lesser than Marco and a few good men?

[fringe escarp]

…best?

[tough igloo]

Garp is viewed as their best hero .. their top guy

[fringe escarp]

And that’s entirely because of his history

WB was seen as the strongest in the world before coughing up blood

[tough igloo]

my point is we see that the marines ain’t worth mentioning when your #1 hero stood no chance

[fringe escarp]

Do you know when that convo took place

[tough igloo]

against just half the crew without the yonko 🤦🏾‍♂️

[fringe escarp]

Also this wouldn’t be Garp alone this would be the admirals, fleet admiral AND Garp

[tough igloo]

they don’t ever do that

[fringe escarp]

They weren’t sending Garp either

Or any admiral

Because they don’t fight yonkos

Like your argument effectively only works if the gorosei see the marines as lesser than a broken down whitebeard pirates with no whitebeard

Which we know is nonsense

They don’t even mention the revolutionaries bro be real

This is kaido’s top 5 all over again

[tough igloo]

the gorosei know sending a admiral to a yonko is a L anyway .. they viewed BB as a yonko caliber pirate once he got the gura gura , so they’re flat out saying because of that only other yonkos could possibly stop him …

why in the hell would they think the revolutionaries could stop a yonko crew

[fringe escarp]

And don’t say “half” a yonko crew when the one mf who carried the entire operation was their absolute strongest

[tough igloo]

it was half a yonko crew

the yonko himself wasn’t even there

[fringe escarp]

And it was their strongest half bar none carried by one man

[tough igloo]

the strongest mf on the crew wasn’t on the island

along with 4 other members

Garp was easily dealing with Kuzan ice

[fringe escarp]

Brother Garp easily dealt with every single crewmate

Kuzan was the only threat and ultimately the one to finish him

[tough igloo]

kuzan wasn’t the only threat

garp himself acknowledged that

[fringe escarp]

Then who was

Shiryu? The mf who only got a blow because Garp let him?

[tough igloo]

garp himself admitted that the rumors of hachinosu were true and it’s too many pirates and they had no real hope of actually winning there

their only option was to just escape

[fringe escarp]

And I’m asking you for examples

[tough igloo]

and again this is with only HALF the crew there and not the yonko himself

[fringe escarp]

Who actually pushed Garp

[iron oriole]

Me

[tough igloo]

Shiryu is what fucked everything over for Garp .. that’s when shit went downhill not Kuzan

[fringe escarp]

Shiryu? The guy who Garp let hit him

[tough igloo]

bruh kuzan literally kept pointing out how the stab wound from shiryu was pretty bad and fucking up garp

[fringe escarp]

That’s not a Garp L that’s a “I have to protect my men” moment

[tough igloo]

like it’s on paper

[iron oriole]

Sanjuan carried vs Garp

[fringe escarp]

And that only happened because Koby was in danger

And Garp gave himself up for it

Drop Garp in there without the concern for his men and he’s destroying Shiryu

[tough igloo]

your proving my point .. garp was fine until the shiryu thing happened cause he was dealing with everything else pretty fine including Kuzan

[fringe escarp]

So hold on, you admit the only reason Garp lost was because he was protecting his men?

[tough igloo]

and even after he got stabbed he laid kuzan out AGAIN and went on to keep fighting other BB pirates

[fringe escarp]

And Garp alone could’ve handled the commanders?

Because that’s the one and only clean hit garp got

[tough igloo]

my entire point was Garp can handle half of a yonko crew but even then he still lost and it would’ve been much worst if the entire yonko crew or the yonko himself was actually there

it’s freaking garp of course he can do that , kuzan wasn’t pushing him like that

[formal wagon]

my entire point is 😛 mleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

[fringe escarp]

And Garp went in alone with literal low tier marines on his side

[tough igloo]

he wasn’t alone he was with SWORD

[fringe escarp]

Without the governments approval

[formal wagon]

pin thi

[fringe escarp]

“Low tier marines”

[formal wagon]

low tier pirate king

[fringe escarp]

Sword is not top brass they’re all low tier marine soldiers

[tough igloo]

again this is just proving my point that garp can fight half a yonko crew but it would’ve been worst if the whole crew was there

or if the yonko himself was there

[fringe escarp]

And Garp went in alone effectively only bringing in weak ass marines

[tough igloo]

even with Kuzan being involved, Garp was still able to handle him pretty easily along with other commanders

cause his ice was no real threat to garp

[fringe escarp]

Then Garp was held back by the ppl he brought in

That’s effectively the argument

Your argument is that the marines cannot handle Blackbeard, but your evidence for this is Garp going in alone against orders with literal low tier marines and no one else

Against the strongest half of BBs crew

Blackbeard is the only mf you can argue would’ve made a real difference being there

Not fucking van auger

[tough igloo]

the marines can’t handle any yonkos because they can’t even use their forces like that which is why they don’t even bother ..once BB pirates was viewed as a yonko caliber crew , the gorosei didn’t believe anyone other than other yonkos could possibly stop him

we even saw how kaido & big mom talked about and viewed the marines

they didn’t view them as threats at all until the seraphims

[fringe escarp]

The marines CHOOSE not to handle yonko because they would prefer to keep the balance

[tough igloo]

they can’t

they can’t split their forces to handle a yonko crew cause then other yonkos would take over

[fringe escarp]

…so the issue is balance

Concern over the other powers in the world taking advantage

[tough igloo]

right the issue is the marines know if they’d try to split their forces to handle a yonko , the yonko as a whole still end up taking over and ruining shit one way or another

[fringe escarp]

At that point it isn’t “are the marines strong enough to handle one yonko”

It’s “are the marines able to handle every single yonko”

[tough igloo]

remember what marineford said .. just to balance it out with the yonkos they needed the marines AND the warlords together

[fringe escarp]

Which again isn’t nearly of big of an issue when they sent all their admirals to handle warlords

Or defend in the reverie

[tough igloo]

it’s a big issue when one of the warlords is a strong as a yonko

so your essentially saying us marines allied with a yonko level fighter can equal out the yonko

[fringe escarp]

Yet they didn’t even bother sending anyone good for him

At this point you aren’t even arguing strength you’re arguing politics

The core point was if they’re strong enough period

[tough igloo]

well duh cause they aren’t risking sending admirals out (which they only have 3) to go fight simple they could potentially die/lose to

they didn’t send any top tiers after Loki

and we know how strong he is

[fringe escarp]

Loki is a dogshit point

[stone tulip]

I guess

[fringe escarp]

Loki is a massive question mark to begin with

[tough igloo]

you just brought up them not sending anybody good enough for mihawk

yet they didn’t send anybody good for Loki either .. they didn’t even know about his DF

and we know how strong loki is

[fringe escarp]

Then why send anyone at all

[iron oriole]

Tbf they know very little in general about Loki

[fringe escarp]

^^^^

[stone tulip]

What’s the argument this time ?

[tough igloo]

they knew enough to give him a 2 billion bounty . he was famous on the seas

[fringe escarp]

At first it was strength

Now it’s politics lmfao

[stone tulip]

Between what ?

[iron oriole]

Any attempt to gain info on him via spies etc resulted in them disappearing

They probably just know he's strong & Prince of Elbaf

[fringe escarp]

Could Sengoku and Garp beat marineford BB

[tough igloo]

based off what we’ve seen so far .. WG/marines only giving out bounties 2 bill and higher unless they know you did some crazy shit

[fringe escarp]

Ion continue this convo anymore because the core point has shifted to politics and not actual scaling

[stone tulip]

We do know he rampaged in the seas hence the bounty.

[tawny panther]

yeah if you got a 2 billion berry bounty .. everybody on the seas knows who you are

[stone tulip]

I mean 50/50 cause it depends on circumstances here

[iron oriole]

They can know of him but know fuck all about him

[tawny panther]

bounties only raises that high off of doing notable stuff on the seas that made the papers

[iron oriole]

His bounty probably also somewhat comes from the supposed fight with Shanks

Its also not just an ordinary bounty

[stone tulip]

Cause strength alone isn’t just the only factor during Marineford

[vital heart]

I think we should start glazing the TCB translator for 1176

[tawny panther]

the shanks fight was at the very end of his pirate career

[vital heart]

It was an amazing quality translation

Im ngl

[tawny panther]

he was on the seas for nearly a decade

[iron oriole]

8 years yes, we don't know when he got his special bounty

[tawny panther]

i thought that was made pretty clear when they revealed they wanted to make him a holy knight aka celestial dragon

[vital heart]

@stone tulip did u like the translation

[stone tulip]

It was good

[stone tulip]

Probably around the same time when he started his pirate career especially when he killed Harald who was well known king throughout the seas

[clever idol]

Yea cuz buggy was also there

I wonder if the bounty is special cuz hes an ancient giant and a prince

[stone tulip]

That alone should earn Loki a bounty cause Harald is holy knight and that would be problematic

[stone tulip]

Yeah and he survived the whole thing

[iron oriole]

They didn't know who or what killed Harald

[clever idol]

Thats up in the air

[stone tulip]

Was it confirmed ?

[clever idol]

As we only see tjeir reaction right aftee haralds death

[stone tulip]

I mean like later on but not initially

[clever idol]

Theres a whole 8yrs where they couldve found out

[iron oriole]

The Gorosei said they'll send someone to find out & was told not to do so

[stone tulip]

Wasn’t that about sending a holy knight to fight him ?

[tawny panther]

I think Loki killing the King of Elbaf was a pretty well known thing

[iron oriole]

That was about sending a HK to Elbaf to find out what happened

[tawny panther]

i think the elbaf giants likely spread the propaganda (like loki asked )

[clever idol]

Not like it was a secret

[stone tulip]

Cause Imu refused due to a potential backlash he was going to face if another one dies

[clever idol]

They literally told everyone in elbaf

[tawny panther]

so it wouldn’t have been hard for the WG to find out pretty quick too

[iron oriole]

The propaganda was for the Elbaf Giants only, to protect Haralds image

[vital heart]

@honest garden bro has socrates kept dming you 💀 i still get it sometimes

[stone tulip]

This is mostly about wanting to take Loki down for sure hence why Imu refused, plus like Rick and Albair the giants already spread out that Loki killed him anyways so they could have found out through that regardless.

[stone tulip]

After all Elbaf wasn’t a closed off nation like Wano was.

[iron oriole]

All i'm saying is they couldn't get any info on Loki while he's chained up doing nothing, i doubt they was easily getting info on him when he was freed

[clever idol]

Of course but they gave no indication this news wouldnt travel outside of their borders

Nor any concern

So its a legitimate possibility

[stone tulip]

Exactly especially when Loki already planned to wreck havoc across the world to take down WG anyways

[slate vigil]

I just finished the chapter and I’m very confused. If death breaks the curse, then how is Harold and Xebec fully dead?

[iron oriole]

They didn't even know Loki had the Nidhogg fruit, so either he never used it during his time at sea or even when he was free, they couldn't get info on him

I lean towards the latter

[tawny panther]

or he just never used it against the fodder marines he ran into

if it was just VAs (like 99.9% of the time ) then it ain’t needed

[iron oriole]

He's "rampaging"

[tawny panther]

they never send their top dogs after anybody strong lol

[buoyant comet]

They knew enough about him to give him a special bounty tho

[iron oriole]

Someone "rampaging" wouldn't care about fodder marines & it being overkill whatever

You are 0 thought, destroying everything

[buoyant comet]

I don't think you'd give anyone a 2.6 Billion bounty without knowing their power

[tawny panther]

he can do that without using his DF .. he legit has a BROKEN HAMMER

especially against fodder marines

[buoyant comet]

Yeah but against shanks surely he must have used it

[tawny panther]

yeah i’m sure he used it multiple times more than just shanks

before he leaves , he straight up says he’s gonna. go out on the seas and “ with his ability exact revenge for his pops “

[honest garden]

He's like a stray dog, if you ignore him long enough he'll move on

[iron oriole]

And yet they seemingly never found out about his power because Imu themself is now all like "ah so thats where the fruit was"

[tawny panther]

they should’ve sent some stronger people lol if they sent any at all

[iron oriole]

They sent people to find out about Loki, Gunko confirmed this

They all disappeared

[tawny panther]

that’s on elbaf

i’m talking when he was on the seas

[iron oriole]

(Kidnapped to Roads lego castle)

Ah well i'm sure he just wiped out anyone who came near him

[tawny panther]

right which is why they should’ve at least sent a admiral or something to at least get some more intel by fighting him .. don’t even gotta defeat him

[iron oriole]

Clearly they didn't care enough

They only wanted him to be a HK now because it would make subjugating Elbaf a whole lot easier

Him being strong is just a bonus

[tawny panther]

it’s like in the elbaf flashback where we saw the strongest crew ever on a island , and the marines send fodder to try and stop them .. this is jus what the Marines/WG do

even with Loki being a strong as he is , they still just gonna send fodder when he was on the seas

only time a top marine was sent out was when garp sent himself out to go and fight roger lol

[iron oriole]

The Marines are stupid, they rarely send forces backed by an Admiral etc for Yonko but they'll send a force like no other to the likes of Ohara

[tawny panther]

lmao like who is making these decisions … i’m blaming KONG

like who the hell is this marine !!! where is sengoku or garp ?! this is the rocks pirates 😂

[stone tulip]

The Gorosei make the final decision once they have Imu’s approval so it’s their fault

[iron oriole]

Just imagining the convo is wild
"Guys Ohara are researching the VC"

"The VC?!?!?!? Send the guy with the most powerful AP DF we have!!! Send the dog!!!"

Meanwhile
"Guys Kaido & BM are teaming up"

"Ah shit, look at the time... lets send CP0"

[tawny panther]

imagine being the VA that Kong tells “ hey we spotted the rocks pirates , i need you to go out there and capture them with a squad of marines backing you “

[iron oriole]

Even the fleet they sent to Wano, was to subjugate Wano IF Kaido was defeated & the walls opened

Just sent them to look at a waterfall for a few hours

[tawny panther]

😂😂 they really just pulled up to see a water fall and a giant elephant then left

[iron oriole]

Literally

[clever idol]

This isnt really stupid when u consider they dont want to disrupt the 3 great powers

And also potentially lose an admiral and a ton of their forces

[tawny panther]

so just sacrifice your weaker soldiers ? lol that’s a shitty job to have as a regular soldier

[clever idol]

Theyre not sacrificing anyone

Bcuz they dont allow marines to attack yonko without permissioj

[tawny panther]

sending fodder to go deal with the strongest killers in the world … is sacrificing

[iron oriole]

Well...

They never used to...

[clever idol]

They dont do this

[tawny panther]

they did it with rocks

[iron oriole]

Now we have SWORD who are still a Marine branch, they're just essentially retired but on duty

[clever idol]

Ah thougjt u meant yonko

Thats is insane

[tawny panther]

i’d quit immediately

i’m not getting on that ship

[clever idol]

They should be sending some more dudes of note

[tawny panther]

they send that for rocks pirates but talk about being worried to send marines because of not knowing about wano samurai lol

[clever idol]

But that call was likely for whoever was in the area

Since this wasnt a planned attack but a response

[iron oriole]

It must have sucked being in charge when Rocks was around

[clever idol]

Right?

Probably sucks in generap shit didnt get better after rox

[iron oriole]

"Sir we've ran into Rocks again"

"Did you capture him?"

"No sir, he destroyed 14 of our Warships again"

[clever idol]

Demoted

Rox pirates may be why the warlord system was created tbh

[spice cairn]

He rocked our shit

[clever idol]

Even tho rox himself screwed them over

[tawny panther]

during Rocks days

if your a pirate = your more than likely gonna be on his crew due to losing a davy back fight or your one of the rare ones able to remain on your own crew

if your a marine = your thinking about how this man during his rookie season killed a admiral and the rest of his crew are super strong serial killers so you have no faith

[spice cairn]

I mean tbf his island was also a massive pirate hub

[iron oriole]

The worst part about the Pirate side is if you were a "lucky one to remain on your own crew" that just means you weren't shit for Rocks to take

[spice cairn]

If you didnt join throufh FB, you would've joined through other means financially or socially

And I think Teech understood this too

Its effectively an entire country in that regard

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[spice cairn]

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[safe cove]

the difference between the marines under sengoku and under akainu

[blazing depot]

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Holy chin mog

[formal wagon]

😭

[austere flint]

Franky szn

[austere flint]

Emily 🧎🏻‍♂️

[vital heart]

GUYS

IS HEBREW AND LATIN THE SAME THING?

[honest garden]

No

[thorny peak]

guys , did dorry get his hand back ?

[vital heart]

Dude

Do yk the op tuber Syv?

[vital heart]

He made a theory that Franky's new attack naming scheme will be Latin

Emeth's name is Hebrew in origin

[cosmic hamlet]

Just started reading the chapter. Peak color spread 🤘

[vital heart]

Franky = Emeth parallels strengthen

If Hebrew = Latin

According to Syv, that is

[thick mango]

They don't even have the same alphabet

[vital heart]

are you certain

[thick mango]

I can't speak to language origins/families or anything deeper like that but yes I'm certain they have different alphabets

[cosmic hamlet]

Is this a coincidence or is it related to how luffy unlocked nika powers after death 👀

[rare ivy]

This panel goes so hard. Now Strawhats and Giants are one of the very rare people who know how to break domi reversi. Truly magnificent chapter by GODA

[dapper tree]

Domi reversi sucks even more now

Only good against jobbers

[blazing depot]

I love how Usopp and Franky are now besties, when their first interaction was Franky beating and robbing him

[mental lake]

He executed dory and broggy's return from domni way too early.

[dapper tree]

Imu why did you have this installed as a counter play

And not just game rules

What a hack

[rancid carbon]

Dorry and broggy should have died there

That would’ve been badass

[blazing depot]

Usopp do something

[safe cove]

the way oda handled DR kinda removes the whole tension imo... people can beat the ones under DR without being afraid of actually killing or hurts them

[blazing depot]

They needed to die for Usopp character development.

[dapper tree]

Oda could have made it a game

Byr now it's just beat em up

BUT

[mental lake]

Meanwhile Ussop

[dapper tree]

That also raises more questions

[blazing depot]

He’s analyzing Loki… not being afraid

[dapper tree]

About the stuff with Rocks and him killing his reversi'ed relatives

And Rocks himself

[mental lake]

If this was a weakness he should've saved it for like the final arc or later on at least

[dapper tree]

Should have been a game

Needing 2 white pieces to flip

[blazing depot]

Didn’t Roger and Garp beat the Domi out of Rocks

Not really a plot hole

[mental lake]

Like now this just ruins the tension that domni reversi had been set up for during and before the god valley flashback

[shadow python]

Its fine. You have to be strong enough to kill them for it to work so we can still domi Loki

[dapper tree]

Yeah? They did almost kill him but not really?

[thick mango]

I also am a bit disappointed but a fair counterpoint is that elbaf probably isn't over there will be some escalation

[blazing depot]

Or maybe they actually killed him but he came back low HP

[dapper tree]

Elbaf is almost over

[blazing depot]

Idk I’m not Oda

[dapper tree]

Sommers and Killingham are sucking it up and done with

[safe cove]

the questionable thing is when rocks' out of DR, he doesn't look fully recovered

[blazing depot]

Bad hangover I guess

[mental lake]

Am I tripping or broggy got his arm back

[safe cove]

yeah 😭

[mental lake]

zero consequences

[thick mango]

Some escalation seems necessary to me there hasn't really be any challenge all arc. The only tension was how do we defeat the demons without hurting our friends and now that's gone

[safe cove]

imu please DR shanks and make luffy beat him, so he can grow his arm

[dapper tree]

Easy Ws

[safe cove]

ikrr

[mental lake]

between this and kids getting saved this arc seems like an easy win for the strawhats now

[white totem]

does brogy die

[safe cove]

now whoever it is we just need to kill them without fear of actually hurting them

[dapper tree]

The only one left that matter is Imu Gunko

Sommers and Killingham suck

[mental lake]

Please don't cut to brook being packed up 😭

[thick mango]

Even imu gunko seems doomed to brook

[dapper tree]

The domi giants are gonna get destroyed in .5 seconds

[safe cove]

Luffy got the W this arc dw

[dapper tree]

Imu is just gonna rage quit

And leave

[thick mango]

Yeah dorry and broggy were the peak of the giant demon threat it's just cleanup at this point

[safe cove]

yeah im thinking this 😭

[mental lake]

Yall think somners is dying for screwing up the plan

[dapper tree]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-eric-cartman-cartman-stan-kyle-gif-14865166

Imu been like

[white totem]

he will try to domi reverse one of the straw hats

[safe cove]

after gunko goes against his orders or maybe the plot twist she will kill herself

[dapper tree]

Unless it's zoro, sanji, or luffy it won't matter

[safe cove]

please don't DR ragnir

[thick mango]

Even getting a high power straw hat won't really change the balance of power here. Only luffy or loki seem like they would matter and id speculate luffy is immune

[safe cove]

wait i think he still lose his arm

[ruby moat]

ya it looks like its gone

[shadow knoll]

so...

Oda's such a pussy...

Couldn't even kill Dorry and Brogy

[ruby moat]

ur gonna be real upset when all these giants they kill next chapter come back

[graceful pasture]

dude oda couldnt even draw usopps arm correctly here 💔

[fringe escarp]

I just processed that franky literally has a new form now

[mental lake]

How is he holding the shield

[fringe escarp]

The dude isn’t just punching harder but has increased movement speed

[fringe escarp]

The stub 😭

[shadow knoll]

Lowkey top 10 worst chapters since the past 2 years

Last 2 were peak though

[safe cove]

just tie it i think lol

[fringe escarp]

It gave me super franky

And racist Jinbe content

With sanji fighting for something other than jail time

[mental lake]

The strawhat part was good but the dory and broggy part was kinda bad

[shadow knoll]

franky's power buff couldn't have been done in egghead huh

[fringe escarp]

Killingham is also a actual character

[mental lake]

My favorite holy knight

[fringe escarp]

They wanted to give this nigga two cakes

[shadow python]

This chapter birthed the Rocks is alive theories. Has Franky join the monster trio (now excluding Zoro). And has Dorry and Broggy being awesome. It was a great chapter

[fringe escarp]

It almost feels like they’re forgetting someone

[fringe escarp]

The rocks is alive theory is not a W

[mental lake]

Who

[fringe escarp]

That shit isn’t a fucking theory

[graceful pasture]

hes unironically so cute

[fringe escarp]

Idk, prob not important

[mental lake]

Such a goober

[graceful pasture]

aww w

he needs to get out that disgusting halffish form and be a cute mascot again

[fringe escarp]

If this chapter made you consider rocks being alive as possible get out of this server and go read a fucking 10 page picture book

[shadow knoll]

I just know I'm gonna so disappointed when Oda comes up with a power that's capable of beating Imu

[fringe escarp]

It ain’t haki so I’m here for it

https://tenor.com/view/church-religion-fresh-prince-of-bel-air-this-little-light-of-mine-will-smith-gif-15226433

[shadow python]

We already have a power that can beat Imu